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DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2028 Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:15:46 2018 No.20072007 [Reply] [Original]

Guide & resources:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
https://djtguide.neocities.org/ (legacy)

How to learn Japanese TL;DR - Learn kana with DJT Kana (+writing if you want), read Tae Kim's grammar guide, then start reading and listening to compelling content intended for adult native speakers for several hours each day.
Last thread: >>20065304

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:17:12 2018 No.20072012 reading makes it a lot easier for to remember certain words in vncore so although i'm only like 200 words in i might abandon it and start mining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:17:56 2018 No.20072016 >>20072012 >vncore stop it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:19:10 2018 No.20072017 The hardest thing for me when reading aloud is the fact that I simply don't read fast enough to read fluidly. Same thing when text shows up in anime where I have to pause to be able to read it all. What can I do? Is it really just about reading more?

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:21:31 2018 No.20072024

>>20068972
It's tough in the beginning because you have all these new kanji. I started with Core6k and went at 20 cards a day throughout, and I remember when my rep stack first started growing big before my knowledge had caught up. Lots of doubt back then. I'm at 33k cards now with what's basically customized Core10k deck + 23k mined cards. Now I just go at 10 new cards a day while prioritizing and repositioning vocab that keeps popping up. Things do get easier.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 09:22:13 2018 No.20072026 File: 212 KB, 960x720, fpbnj4l2gdv01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:22:39 2018 No.20072029 >>20072026 yawn

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 09:23:36 2018 No.20072033 guten morgen mate

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:30:35 2018 No.20072062 >>20072033 halt die fresse jamal

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:33:39 2018 No.20072073 >>20072017 read more

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 09:38:20 2018 No.20072096 >>20072062 leck mich am arsch arschkriecher

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:44:24 2018 No.20072126 File: 69 KB, 1280x720, 1497851168215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Nh0wvQGYk Reminder that Japanese is an incomplete language.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:45:52 2018 No.20072133 why are おつむ and おむつ so similar

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 09:46:46 2018 No.20072135 both are full of shit that was a alley oop wasnt it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:47:33 2018 No.20072137 >>20072126 It's the same for every language that lives in close proximity to other languages. English people don't notice because they're usually the one's that people borrow words from but sometimes it's the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:47:46 2018 No.20072138 >>20072012 Exactly. Do VNcore on days when you read and watching. The cross reinforcement will accelerate your learning. Best decision I made. I just finished vncore and it was so easy and the value was priceless. Such a small but effective deck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:50:39 2018 No.20072152 >>20072138 >VNcore Where do I find this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 09:54:16 2018 No.20072167 >>20072152 https://mega.nz/#!iIk0BKbY!3VAygAPWyxoD1oZmyIe8m_lNNBnuz9YkjHDl_dEho_A (it's in the OP's guide posted)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:05:05 2018 No.20072213 File: 3 KB, 455x25, 1515199193022.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] have some reality bomb

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:06:16 2018 No.20072221 >>20072213 面白いご冗談じゃんw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:08:38 2018 No.20072239 File: 641 KB, 1000x1000, 1528988162341.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20072133 >posting my fetish

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 10:10:05 2018 No.20072244 >>20072213 why did you censor mijos nick homeboy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:13:55 2018 No.20072259 >>20072244 I don't want any djt basedboys clinging to my 専用 tutor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:15:35 2018 No.20072264 File: 53 KB, 480x269, eru5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] woah is this a secret club

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:17:02 2018 No.20072266 エロゲの秋

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 10:18:32 2018 No.20072272 >>20072259 well depending on who u ask ラノベ is also not 読書 so i guess the only thing left is anime : )

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:30:34 2018 No.20072323 地下への階段を見つけ is the の acting as が here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:48:17 2018 No.20072381 >>20072323 地下へ becomes the attribute for 階段, toward undergroundのstairway 地下へ.の.階段.を.見つけ -> Locate the stairway to the underground

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:49:48 2018 No.20072389 here's a grammar point that doesn't exist in english: shika and dake

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 10:50:47 2018 No.20072394 File: 43 KB, 667x576, 4579t45ytg7hy47gy49sgdfhjf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 10:52:54 2018 No.20072402 File: 20 KB, 563x517, 1529631801065.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20072394 Only a one cig, LOSER

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 10:55:37 2018 No.20072405 File: 43 KB, 925x711, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20072402

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:08:54 2018 No.20072435 >>20072394 >rasta asf >but never smoked weed b4

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 11:14:36 2018 No.20072458 they get weed dude rappers be gettin life sentences for spliffs it happened to uzi

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:30:36 2018 No.20072520 Pretty amazing how Jamal managed to make /djt/ even worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:34:48 2018 No.20072540 >>20070270 >>20070270 >>20070270 If you're out there anon, thank you.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:35:40 2018 No.20072545
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Here's a sketch of a kanji deck I'm planning (let's pretend that 生 is a 食).

In "Production", the goal is to write the kanji from memory, no secret.
In "Recalling", the goal is to recall the kanji and its readings.

Both "Recalling 1" and "Recalling 2" have problems, though:

R1 - Simply saying "there are X readings, list them all" is not a very good method. If I can recall 19/20 readings of 生, failing a card would be frustrating, and scavenging my brain for all readings will probably slowly kill me, besides probably not reflecting a complete list of readings.

R2 - I feel like other kanji and okurigana give away the answer too easily, making my brain not focus on the kanji being reviewed. For instance, most people here would struggle to tell what kanji 薇 is, but upon seeing the word 薔薇, the reading becomes pretty obvious.

I have almost 4000 kanji and 15k+ cards in my vocab deck, so I'm not a beginner. My goal is to learn to write by hand and also fill the gaps in kanji readings/meanings I'm unfamiliar with.

Any opinions are welcome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:37:37 2018 No.20072554 Reddit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:38:10 2018 No.20072556 >>20072152 other guy accidentally linked the wrong deck https://mega.nz/#!qvQVSaQb!b_z6_XPxxKQqAtf_Y4hbq98nmOFaWlgYmhifzd4m8tU

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:46:12 2018 No.20072587 >>20072213 5 digit opinion

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:51:44 2018 No.20072605 File: 822 KB, 800x600, 1518756473164.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >towels in the bathtub

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 11:52:17 2018 No.20072607 >>20072520 would you like an autograph perhaps on your computer mouse pad

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:53:03 2018 No.20072613 Can somebody track the name of this song? It has got to be in the comments or description or something. Thanks! http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33977401

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 11:58:39 2018 No.20072633 ajatt and matt nuke and memrise bless god

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 12:01:29 2018 No.20072649 File: 55 KB, 916x614, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 12:12:29 2018 No.20072692 How do you use Locale emulator for 7zip? The prompt just doesn't show up for me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 12:16:21 2018 No.20072712 I'm getting so bored of doing anki. I think I'm going to stop using it and just read/listen more.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:20:23 2018 No.20072998 >>20072712 Anki is reading. If you can't imagine scenarios and stories with your cards you can always read manga but your learning will suffer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:45:24 2018 No.20073109 >>20072712 I'm getting bored of keeping up with RTK reviews but vocab decks? That's so easy and painless I can't imagine that becoming much of a hassle. 20 minutes every day at most.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:48:28 2018 No.20073120 >>20073109 >20 minutes every day at most. I've spent anywhere from 60-90 mins a day the last few days on my vocab deck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:49:33 2018 No.20073123 >>20073109 I just reviewed rtk until every card was mature, then deleted the deck. My kanji skills haven't gone down since then (~5 months ago), but I never learned how to write them, so....

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:51:50 2018 No.20073136 >>20073123 You did an entire rtk deck to maturity without ever learning how to write any kanji? Is this the power or nukemarine?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:52:27 2018 No.20073139 >>20073120 Those are rookie numbers. I do at least 4 hours a day. While listening to audio and constantly taking notes and looking things up. I give myself 5 day breaks of no new cards about every 3 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:54:09 2018 No.20073145 >>20073136 You don't need to learn to write for a while imo. I learned to write about 500 kanji and have yet to imagine it being useful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:54:47 2018 No.20073149 >>20073139 Nice! Long do you think it will be before you start learning Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 13:55:18 2018 No.20073156 >>20073120 My reviews take an hour +- 3 minutes every day

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:00:18 2018 No.20073170 >>20072394 土蜘蛛

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:00:42 2018 No.20073172 >>20073136 Lazy kanji of course

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:01:40 2018 No.20073177 >>20073139 >Those are rookie numbers I know. My point was that I just don't enjoy it and I'm having trouble keeping my concentration up while doing it. I think it's better to spend that time on something I enjoy, like watching anime or reading a VN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:02:41 2018 No.20073182 is there any reason to upgrade from anki 2.0 to 2.1?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:03:07 2018 No.20073185 >>20073149 Since I was 4 y.o.o and living there. Keep "reading" manga. I'll keep doing my reps and listening/viewing and we'll see who gets there first. I mean results are my focus, I don't need stories and cartoons to inspire me to learn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:03:32 2018 No.20073189 >>20073177 Thats what i did. Not enough hours in the day for anki and reading and anime so i stopped doing the one that i enjoyed the least. My vocab probably isn't gonna be good for a few years but it's that or burn out and die.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:04:11 2018 No.20073191 >>20073182 From what everybody has been saying on here no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:04:53 2018 No.20073193 >>20073172 So you're doing the updated MIA thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:06:39 2018 No.20073202 File: 376 KB, 500x500, b9e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20073185 >results are my focus Keep me updated on when you give up

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 14:06:56 2018 No.20073207 File: 129 KB, 1200x900, DkhAteiXcAAkRm7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whos gonna learn nihongo first you or this guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:08:06 2018 No.20073215 Are we allowed to talk about MAL here? If so add me: cle5 I want to make sure you are eating your daily dose of 兄目

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:09:01 2018 No.20073220 >>20073202 I have zen like patience and infinite willpower my man. Don't hold your breath.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:09:27 2018 No.20073221 >>20073207 probably him since I have a job

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:09:30 2018 No.20073223 >>20073193 Yeah pretty much exactly except I started before Matt came up with it out of pure laziness

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:10:31 2018 No.20073230 >>20073207 Probably me because I started earlier than him and got RTK done in one go no 二度手間 (四度？）for me

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 14:11:02 2018 No.20073233 >>20073215 join date Sep 20, 2017 less than 50 animes watched default stylesheet nah dude gomen

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:12:18 2018 No.20073241 >>20073233 That's still a fair bit of immersion, right （悲）

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:12:19 2018 No.20073243 >>20073233 hey dude, not that guy, just wanted to say that your post on this website made you look like a big fag.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 14:13:00 2018 No.20073245 >>20073243 that was the one huh

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:17:55 2018 No.20073259 再び and 又 when do I use each?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:20:46 2018 No.20073271 >>20073259 再び is more dramatic / less casual. Sort of the nuance of going back to the same state or something, while また is more like doing the same thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:21:24 2018 No.20073274 >>20073271 thanks

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:27:44 2018 No.20073307

>>20073207
probably him. i'm reading 1-2 hours a day and active listening 2 hours a day, but he's sentence mining. and you guys criticize sentence mining but i'll find it hilarious when he learns japanese faster than me and your "read more" meme is disproven.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 14:30:42 2018 No.20073331 reading more is like incredibly good after you watched 10000 hours of eng subbed anime before then ┐(‘～` )┌

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:31:50 2018 No.20073338 >>20073307 I thought everybody was sentence mining? I just copy and paste sentences all of the time since I started. I have over 100 pages I"m going to turn into an anki deck and farm over xmas break.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 14:34:35 2018 No.20073350 >>20073338 youre gonna reap what you sow dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:36:25 2018 No.20073355 >>20073338 >I have over 100 pages I"m going to turn into an anki deck and farm over xmas break. How much time is that going to take you and do you enjoy doing it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:36:29 2018 No.20073357 >>20073350 I'm not going to memorize the sentences just get to where I can read and understand them all quickly

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 14:39:06 2018 No.20073369 >>20073355 Yea I enjoy it. I like working with the words and movig them around and stuff. You can make decks pretty quickly too so maybe like 4 hours. I'll put them in there as is and update and suspend as needed as I go through them.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 14:40:16 2018 No.20073377 >Yea I enjoy it. I like working with the words and movig them around and stuff. this is good do more of this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:07:58 2018 No.20073523 >>20073207 I feel like rubbing his head will grant me some kind of power

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:09:54 2018 No.20073530 >>20072007 Hey /int/ mouthbreather don't make a new thread until the old one is dead, got it you piece of shit? god you are retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:14:37 2018 No.20073554 >>20073530 imagine caring enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:15:36 2018 No.20073562 File: 144 KB, 1024x812, DezM9KDX0AE-jIZ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm hoping for n4 within the next year. Can it be done, bros? Pic relatz is my study setup

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:16:58 2018 No.20073569 >>20073562 Sorry bro, you are missing Minna no Nihongo and Marugoto. You can do it in maybe two years tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:21:26 2018 No.20073588 >>20073562 >hiragana & katana book Did you pay for that shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:23:08 2018 No.20073599 >>20073588 that's calvin's shit bro. catch up on your ecelebs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:23:42 2018 No.20073603 Raw anime has a completely different feeling than subbed anime because I am able to concentrate on the visuals for once. I am glad I learned Japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:25:54 2018 No.20073619 >>20073562 >JFZ god i fucking hate this book and I don't know why. something about their adaptive learning bullshit and anime girl cover pisses me off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:28:58 2018 No.20073636 >>20073207 He'll have only just finished RTK in 5 months' time so...

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:29:24 2018 No.20073640

>>20073562
I got most of those too. Just do genki but breeze through it, dont burn out on it. You really do want to try to immerse as much as possible and those books are external to japanese. All you really need is Anki and the internet. Stream and torrent all day while doing vocab and whatnot as a suplement. Get tae kim online for free (and theres a anki deck for it) and do grammar (that's where I'm suffering the most). N4 in a year is possible if you have no life except study like me. I could possibly pass N3 and that's in 7 months.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:30:14 2018 No.20073648
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I've never looked inside a genki book before. Is this really from genki 2? I've often heard the book is advanced けど

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:30:27 2018 No.20073652
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Guys, b-begginer here and I have a silly question: Do you always read the hiragana combinations as they are?, for example みゃ, it's pronunciation is mya, but could there be times where you say it as mi ya or miya?, like each hiragana being separated?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:31:19 2018 No.20073656 >>20073640 >N4 in a year is possible if you have no life except study like me is this bait or

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:31:52 2018 No.20073663 >>20073603 >tfw you're now forced to look at the lazy animation

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 15:32:10 2018 No.20073669 >>20073652 theres a reason why the ゃ is little

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:33:15 2018 No.20073677 File: 2.15 MB, 800x450, meditation.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:33:31 2018 No.20073679 >>20073652 >but could there be times where you say it as mi ya or miya No.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:34:39 2018 No.20073683 >>20073652 little kana like ゃ effect other kana and aren't read by themselves while a big や is normal as in 'ya'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:35:00 2018 No.20073686 >>20073648 >no romanji >can barely read any of this I'm not gonna make it bros...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:35:03 2018 No.20073687 File: 33 KB, 623x461, mattone.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:35:47 2018 No.20073691 >>20073640 dude there are people who have gotten n1 in a year

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:35:48 2018 No.20073690 >>20073663 Truly a curse

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:36:07 2018 No.20073693 >>20073648 step 1. take sharpy and get rid of the furigana

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:36:18 2018 No.20073694 >>20073687 It's pretty obvious. Natives learn from hearing the language, that's why they have perfect accents

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:37:56 2018 No.20073702 >>20073691 Hmm I mean maybe studying just for that test it's possible. I took a few N1 practice tests and it's pretty fucking hard m8

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:37:58 2018 No.20073703

>>20073648
finish genki 2 prepare you for N4, finishing tobira put you at N3 level and paves the way to N2 level(all that is left is vocab and gimmicky gramamr).

Genki is by no means advanced, and taking 2 years for some universities to finish it is a joke, if I'm generous and give each chapters a week 6-7 months is more than enough for both books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:38:04 2018 No.20073704 >>20073687 That you can permanently screw up your accent. Something that completely goes against ALL fundamental aspects of the AJATT methodと個人的に思います

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:39:14 2018 No.20073711 >>20073686 Tell us how what you have done to learn Japanese so far

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:39:25 2018 No.20073714 >>20073703 Can you please stop with the r*ddit posts? No one cares.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:39:48 2018 No.20073715 >>20073687 I've been saying this here for the past 4 months. If you are reading you are just talking in your head. You shouldn't even say a word till you've ran it through yomichan at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:40:16 2018 No.20073716 >>20073711 4 hours per day genki

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:40:57 2018 No.20073719 I use yomichan's audio excessively to the point it's probably a hindrance, so my reading time isn't hurting my accent at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:41:08 2018 No.20073720 >>20073711 I'm still increasing my daily meditation. I'm at 30 minutes now, and if I keep increasing by 10 minutes per week I should be in a good spot by early next month just in time to start RTK over Christmas break

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:41:33 2018 No.20073724 >>20073715 t. brainlet who subvocalizes while reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:41:34 2018 No.20073725 >>20073703 >6-7 months I got to mid N2 in about that time exactly following Matt's videos

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:42:10 2018 No.20073727

>>20073716
Perfect start. You can learn hiragana and katakana in a week. Just immerse with the rest of your time and might want to start a little anki like 10 cards per day nothing rigorious. Also sentence mine about 1 sentence everyday and slowly increase the intervals of this over time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:42:15 2018 No.20073729 >>20073724 t. NPC

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:42:27 2018 No.20073731 >>20073725 are you the monolingual guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:42:37 2018 No.20073732 >>20073719 Ye but u rnt readn

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:42:37 2018 No.20073733 File: 14 KB, 166x166, 1529771341992.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20073669 >>20073679 >>20073683 ありがとうございます !

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:43:39 2018 No.20073735 >>20073731 Maybe? I have posted here about going monolingual before. Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:44:12 2018 No.20073739 >>20073733 どういたしまして、がんばって！

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:44:25 2018 No.20073740 >>20073735 just wondering, don't ask me questions

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:47:10 2018 No.20073759 >>20073725 What did you actually do? Matt gives a lot of different advice lately

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:50:40 2018 No.20073770

>>20073725
Before or after he said to practice speech before reading? Because I have the feeling you'll be one of those N1's who can't talk or listen at all. It's correctable but it's going to be a while till you don't sound retarded when trying to conversate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:52:32 2018 No.20073780 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFY6decNB8M >your japanese level after 3 years of french university staying inside and watching anime all day was the winning move

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:53:16 2018 No.20073782 >>20073770 ajatt has always recommended near 24/7 Japanese audio listening so I don't see how he won't be able to listen

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:53:49 2018 No.20073784 >>20073770 How do you beome an N1 who can't listen? Listening is on the test. If you mean street nihongo and not anime or 外人向け shit then this is easily fixed by supplementing your 10000 hours of anime with 10000 hours of japanese youtube videos

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:53:56 2018 No.20073785

>>20073759
Followed his main guide video doing Nihongo shark kanji (basically the MIA version of kanji in a premade deck) and I didn't do the meditation meme either. Rushed through Tae kim, added a lot of i+2 cards, went monolingual at 1500 cards not 2000

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 15:53:59 2018 No.20073786 >>20073780 died in the first second rip me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:56:03 2018 No.20073792 >>20073785 Huh, that's basically what I was doing until I burned out. Good work. What was mining like in the beginning?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:57:45 2018 No.20073799 >>20073770 I've listened quite a lot and can understand most from stuff like ひいきびいき if I concentrate. I can not talk very good at all though, but I imagine that will come when as my listening gets better

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 15:59:01 2018 No.20073806 >>20073792 Much more fun than RTK, but really hard to find sentences you can learn. It gets a lot easier at ~3000 cards if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:00:15 2018 No.20073808 >>20073806 That's funny, I enjoyed RTK and burned out on anime because viewing anime as homework made me hate it and question my reason for learning Japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:00:28 2018 No.20073809 File: 499 KB, 1280x720, Osu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thanks for the inspiration bro's, gettng back to studying

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 16:05:32 2018 No.20073823 >>20073808 now thats some terminal brain aids

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:10:53 2018 No.20073842 https://vocaroo.com/i/s00H1mTUvk2e Matt disciple here. Judge me. Actually the first time I've ever spoken other than reading aloud

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:12:26 2018 No.20073849 >>20073842 How long since you started sentence mining?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:13:08 2018 No.20073851 >>20073842 >僕あなたもゲイですか？

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:14:06 2018 No.20073856 >>20073799 isn't it a bit generous to consider that mid N2?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:14:24 2018 No.20073858 >>20073849 185 days ago

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 16:15:13 2018 No.20073862 >>20073842 i mean you said yourself first time ever not much to judge its your first time ever get on that facetime shit with some honies dude and get your mack on

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:15:25 2018 No.20073863 >>20073856 For reading and listening I meant (苦笑). besides JLPT doesn't even test output in any way

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:18:23 2018 No.20073870 >>20073842 you pull off cute gaijin who stutters and uses 僕 and lots of カタカナ words pls learn pitch accent though i can't keep it up when i hear け↑いたい and レ↑コーダー

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:25:15 2018 No.20073893 >>20073870 >learn pitch accent how? i don't even know how to start

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:26:07 2018 No.20073898 >>20073893 look up dogen's pitch accent playlist

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:26:37 2018 No.20073902 >>20073893 the dogster has a whole patreon about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jakXVEUTT48&list=PL78L-9twndz8fMRU3NpiWSmB5IucqWuTF

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:28:07 2018 No.20073906 >>20073898 Isn't there an Anki deck with all the rules instead or something? Also: how much of the pitch system is regular anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:30:51 2018 No.20073917 >>20073906 wait for yogapants' sick video player that will have a hover dictionary for subtitles and will include pitch accent for each word

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:31:37 2018 No.20073922

>>20073906
it's somewhat systematic, but the systematic parts aren't really worth an anki deck and the rest is just learning every single word which there are already anki decks for

just look at a couple of the dogster's videos, it's like tae kim for intonation

then you can keep watching anime or youtube or w/e and learn prosody and pitch from actual japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:31:58 2018 No.20073925 >>20073906 >>20073917 oh and rikairebuilt includes pitch accent number (look it up to see which pitch each number represents) next to each word.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:34:32 2018 No.20073938 it's surreal going back and seeing screenshots of my desktop with the RTK pdf open. i can't believe i finished that grueling and pointless book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:34:53 2018 No.20073941 >>20073922 >it's somewhat systematic, but the systematic parts aren't really worth an anki deck and the rest is just learning every single word which there are already anki decks for What do you exactly mean by this? Also I'm not going to watch dogen

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:39:48 2018 No.20073967

>>20073941
like verbs and i-adjectives have pitch patterns for their conjugations

if you're not a totally pitch deaf gaijin you probably already somewhat know that you say つよ↑い but when you put it in the 連用形 the pronunciation can change to つ↑よく

these "rules" aren't universal by any means though so you really just have to train your ears to pay attention to how japanese people say words

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:43:49 2018 No.20073984 >>20073687 I wonder where he came up with this from. Based on everything else he says he probably has a sample size of less than 2 and it is fueled by his anxiety developed from using a shitty learning method.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:44:55 2018 No.20073990 >>20073984 he claims he has a sample of like 15 friends that he can tell stuff like this from

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:49:39 2018 No.20074013 >>20073715 Everything I read is narrated to me by anime characters, so I don't have this problem.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 16:51:47 2018 No.20074024 >>20073984 dude you just gotta stop and think about the actual logic

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:55:22 2018 No.20074040 File: 789 KB, 528x554, kamiya.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i too have a pet kamiya hiroshi in my head

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:55:26 2018 No.20074041

>>20073984
i thought about it some and i feel like this might actually be a thing if you're dealing with retards who had literally never heard a word of japanese before trying to learn the language and decided to learn the language because ???

for people of the 4chan variety who had been watched subbed anime since they were 14 or fucking whatever it's just a complete fucking non-issue

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:56:33 2018 No.20074042 >>20073967 >つよ↑い but when you put it in the 連用形 the pronunciation can change to つ↑よく I never thought about it but I knew this from listening. Is this proof that enough listening will teach you pitch accent eventually?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 16:57:40 2018 No.20074049 >>20074042 no because a lot of people still sound like complete ass after listening a lot. nice try though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:01:19 2018 No.20074062 >>20074042 u have to think real good about it or you won't learn anything, just like those g/a/ijin whove watched six thousand episodes of subbed cartoons and the extent of what they understand is moshi moshi and tsubasa=bird

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:01:28 2018 No.20074064 >>20074042 listening and the practice of physically saying it in a meaningful context where its necessary will do the job

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:01:29 2018 No.20074065 >>20074042 it will if you pay attention and/or copy enough japanese speech i suggest repeating japanese lines to yourself in your head after you hear them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:04:55 2018 No.20074081 >>20074062 >subbed >tsubasa=bird see >>20074065 i will do this, sounds like good advice

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:06:43 2018 No.20074086

>>20074065
bonus: if you have a galaxy brain, listening to kansai characters talk will help you internalize why they sound "wrong" and reinforce the standard pronunciation while also helping you gain a deeper appreciation for japanese regional dialects

totemo osusume dess (obviously nobody do this until you have a decent grasp of standard japanese)

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:07:09 2018 No.20074088

>claims to speaks perfect japanese
>never actually speaks japanese on video
>becomes language learning guru
>doesn't actually learn ANY other languages with his incredible method
>repeatedly fails at learning chinese
>lets slip on a video that he's very good at making people think his japanese level is better than it actually is

i can't take matt seriously

i agree with most of the stuff he says but it's not like it's anything that kaufman hasn't said before

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:07:21 2018 No.20074090 せやな

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:08:04 2018 No.20074093 >>20074062 Is that a reference to a specific post?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:10:39 2018 No.20074103 >>20074088 >claims to speaks perfect japanese no he doesn't. he even said he cringed at his introduction video from a couple years back because he hadn't studied pitch accent at all back then. stop lying dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:12:20 2018 No.20074110 >>20074103 hi matt

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:13:15 2018 No.20074113

>>20074103
deciding to take someone who doesn't know pitch accent as an authority on pitch accent is like deciding to study for the bar watching youtube videos by a 5x bar exam ronin instead of using actual study materials

in no other topic in the entire world do people consider using someone who doesn't actually know what he's teaching as a valuable source of knowledge

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:13:28 2018 No.20074114 >>20074088 so fuckin dont and watch some good ass anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:13:31 2018 No.20074115 >>20074103 Even then >learns pitch accent long after getting fluent >posts >>20073687 At least that gives me hope I can do pitch accent later wwww

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:14:54 2018 No.20074120 >>20074090 そやな

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:15:27 2018 No.20074124

>>20074113
>deciding to take someone who doesn't know pitch accent as an authority on pitch accent
2 years ago
>>20074115
he said you can learn pitch accent at any time but it's just much harder for someone like him because his model of how the language sounded had to be rebuilt

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:16:14 2018 No.20074136 >>20074124 did matt watch anime before deciding he'd learn japanese and/or start selling snake oil

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:16:56 2018 No.20074140 >>20074124 >much harder for someone like him It's not like he has tried both ways and compared them is it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:18:02 2018 No.20074148 >>20074120 それな

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:18:56 2018 No.20074155 >>20074136 he liked toradora a lot before he started learning

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:20:18 2018 No.20074159 Man this next video Matt and I are making is gonna be the most autistic dive into Anki's behavior and fine tuning it

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:21:54 2018 No.20074165

>>20074155
i just literally don't think that anyone with even semi-regular exposure to japanese audio content would fall into the "oh no i must forget everything i know about japanese and relearn it the marine corps way" trap.

and no, i'm not 10000 anime hours guy, but in that respect he has a point. it doesn't even have to be "active" listening where you attempt to understand the whole thing. literally just having it there will prevent you from sounding like the stereotypical turbogaijin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:23:32 2018 No.20074171 >>20074165 he's not talking about people who aim for "not sounding like complete trash". he's talking about being indistinguishable from a native.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:23:45 2018 No.20074173 >>20074148 わかる

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:24:08 2018 No.20074177

Matt autistically studied Japanese full-time for years and unsurprisingly got good, and then started giving advice that essentially boils down to "be as autistic as me".

It works but it doesn't really make him an authority on language acquisition. Don't believe his lies.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:24:59 2018 No.20074179 he didnt get good he got good at seeming like hes good but as soon as you put him in an uncomfortable situation its over

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:27:28 2018 No.20074195

>>20074171
>he's talking about being indistinguishable from a native.
matt telling you how to be "indistinguishable from a native" is like a university junior telling you the right way to win a fields a medal or having a 3L lecture on how to litigate cases in front of the supreme court

if you don't know a thing, you can't teach it. even if you DO know a thing you often can't teach it. in order to teach something correctly you must not only able to do it fluently but understand it inside and out. this is true in literally every subject and why people decide to throw out literally all common sense when it comes to learning japanese and instead treat it like a mystical bullshit puzzle game is beyond me.

or rather, it's not beyond me: it's textbook "japanese teachers hate him!" snake oil.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:29:29 2018 No.20074206 >>20074195 >if you don't know a thing, you can't teach it not true. nukemarine doesn't know japanese but he tells you how to reach fluency by telling you to get lots of input. don't make absolute statements like this. it is stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:29:52 2018 No.20074208 >>20074195 He himself says that he isn't there yet. He just has confidence that the AJATT/MIA method got him pretty far and might one day get him there completely.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:31:42 2018 No.20074216 its funny yall now sayin dont be so hard on him he said hes not the best yet hes far from actually open and honest with his viewer base and wont even talk to them unless they pay him

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:33:31 2018 No.20074221

>>20074206
pretty much fucking anything can get you to fluency if you do enough of it, even ankidroning for infinity years, as long as you EVENTUALLY move onto practicing the actual language with some sort of feedback. these people are all fucking students, if they happen to be right about something it's not because they're bona-fide fucking experts, it's because they happen to be right.

now, am i a bona-fide fucking expert? no. but there's no reason prima facie to trust me any less than literally anyone else who isn't an objectively certified nihongo master.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:34:59 2018 No.20074228

>>20074216
>yet hes far from actually open and honest with his viewer base
he's said all of this stuff publicly. and he responds to a lot of people but there's only so much time you can invest responding to the same old dumb questions from beginners. i think you correctly recognize that matt is kind of an autistic little shit, but you use that as an excuse to shit on him for stuff that isn't even bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:36:21 2018 No.20074237 >>20074195 >japanese teachers hate him! Sounds like djt.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:40:48 2018 No.20074262

honestly no need to bring japanese teachers into the equation at all, if there's one good thing you can say about matt's missing in action curriculum it's that it trumps college classes pretty easily

you can't even get native input out of the ancient gaijin hunters teaching english in the states, they just speak english and make you do genki exercises with the pothead sitting next to you

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:41:52 2018 No.20074269 I don't understand why people give matt money or how matt can produce so many videos. There is only so much to talk about such an easy and intuitive thing that is learning japanese.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:42:26 2018 No.20074270

>>20074262
"better than college courses" is quite possibly the lowest bar ever invented

i'm pretty sure translating anime OP/EDs with google translate will get you farther than college classes as long as literally any grammar reference and dictionary is involved in some way

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:42:32 2018 No.20074273 >>20074262 >teaching english meant teaching japanese >.<

yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:45:41 2018 No.20074290

>>20074228
nah if you make a shit product you deserve to get booed and heckled thats how it goes

any good information hes parroted is basically useless because neither he (admittedly in some cases) nor his viewer base thus far that ive been exposed to has been able to apply it in a useful way to achieve measurable and demonstrable (good) results

pretty much period

you dont hire a teacher to train you to learn an instrument they cant play at a journeyman kind of level

fuck him bring me success stories or lets throw more tomatoes

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:46:34 2018 No.20074294

>>20074269
you can think of whatever the fuck matt is selling like one of those fitness fad programs

Q: will it get you fit if you do what he says?
A: yes
Q: is it appreciably better than other fitness methods?
A: no evidence either way
Q: so why do people do it?
A: people want to believe that they've found a holy grail that unlocks the key to victory

at the end of the day, whether someone gets fit or not is primarily a function of whether they bothered to put in the fucking work of going to gym day after day, and not what program they subscribed to along the way. if having a program helps you with your motivation, great! but the work is still what matters.

as long as you are practicing in ANY meaningful way (ie, doing anything in which there is meaningful feedback, corrections, and improvement) you will eventually improve at the aspect of the language you are practicing. if you put in the work, you will go the distance, unless your practice is SO IMMENSELY FLAWED that it actively reinforces incorrect behavior and you learn literally nothing from it. very few people are actually in this hole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:47:08 2018 No.20074297 >>20074290 >fuck him bring me success stories calvin

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:47:33 2018 No.20074299 >>20074290 90% of his channel's history has been "just do ajatt as described on the website". There are already multiple success stories you twatt

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:47:56 2018 No.20074303
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>>20074270
I mean they are not comparable. AJATT is a supremely inefficient method that burns all your time and gives the same results any semi series learner would get. While classes does not teach you japanese, it at least does not take up your time, gives you an easy a for an ellective and helps you meet friends. ( I have never done ether but I have met people who have done both.)

classes > AJATT

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:49:08 2018 No.20074307 File: 447 KB, 654x532, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20074303 >making friends with people who take japanese in college

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:50:31 2018 No.20074310

>>20074299
survivorship bias means that the only thing individual success stories are evidence of is that matt's teaching method is not so fucking atrocious that it renders you literally incapable of learning japanese.

it's like the "i ate subway and lost 150 pounds" shit, it's not actually proof that subway makes you fit. it means that among the N thousand people who tried subway, one of them successfully used it at a weight loss strategy, of which dozens of other equally valid weight loss strategies exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:50:39 2018 No.20074311 >>20074303 but ben reached n1 in 2 years dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:51:35 2018 No.20074313 who the fuck is ben

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:51:41 2018 No.20074315 >>20074310 problem with your analogy is that not very many people try ajatt relative to other learning methods, so when there is a sizable portion of ajatters who learned japanese pretty well it's indicative the method works

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:53:20 2018 No.20074322 asian ben that got n1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgrqtvfwEQ white redhead ben who likes eroge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCTZQFJcjc

yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:53:20 2018 No.20074323

>>20074297
calvins gonna be a success story someday for sure

>>20074310
but of the n dozens of peeps doing matts shitter ajatt that he obsoletes parts of after people were already doing them are all not going to learn japanese

100% fail rate

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:54:17 2018 No.20074329

>>20074311
Kauffman worked in japanese after just a year. I can enjoy light novels and raw anime and I have been studying for like 3 hours a day for a little over a year. (I do not care about anything besides anime/lns)

>>20074307
Beats meeting friends in electrical engineering classes who just talk about classes and how hard they are (they are not).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:54:32 2018 No.20074331 >>20074311 was he a full-time japanese student or did he have a day job >>20074315 how many patreon subs does he have how many fluent ajatters can you name is it even 10%?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:55:16 2018 No.20074335 >>20074329 >Kauffman worked in japanese after just a year. doesn't mean he could pass n1. moreover steve knew mandarin which helped.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:56:03 2018 No.20074339 >>20074322 im pretty sure the only person matt posted on his channel that didnt suck at japanese was that cuck fuck perma sad brain with societal aids

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:56:39 2018 No.20074341 >>20074331 >is it even 10%? don't know, but it could be 0.01%. doesn't matter since the number of fluent learners using traditional methods would be like 0.00001%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:56:48 2018 No.20074343 >>20074322 fuck me white ben who likes eroge cracks me up every time what a ridiculous person

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:58:10 2018 No.20074346

>>20074341
>doesn't matter since the number of fluent learners using traditional methods would be like 0.00001%.
well when your argument relies on 100% bullshit statistics you pulled completely out of your ass i guess it's going to pretty difficult for anyone to successfully refute it

yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 17:58:34 2018 No.20074347

>>20074343
the 3 hour vid guy dude if you could see what piss smelled like it would be his appearance i cant watch his vid even for 10 secs w.o gagging because i feel like im smelling piss id rather watch one of nuke chans lets read vids where he mouses over text with the hooker in silence

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:59:03 2018 No.20074350 >>20074343 i've noticed matt's community (or maybe ajatt community in general) is so autistic that they're all openly a bunch of weirdos and they don't seem phased by it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 17:59:25 2018 No.20074352

>>20074310
great analogy, as the only way to lose weight is to eat less calories then you burn, subway eaters just happened to do that and lost weight, nothing to do with subway. Just like how the only way to learn a language is to consume lots of comprehensible and compelling input, ajatters who succeeded just happened to do that along with ajatt. No wonder all ajatters are so ugly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:00:09 2018 No.20074356 Mattposters gtfo pls -_-

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:00:42 2018 No.20074359 matthematics

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:03:37 2018 No.20074368 I have switched to the webextension version of Rikaichan. Shift doesn't work to cycle through dictionaries anymore. What am I missing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:04:24 2018 No.20074371 >>20074356 like i'm going to let them sour matt's honor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:05:08 2018 No.20074374 >>20074371 when your "defense" of matt's honor depends on statements like "the number of fluent learners using traditional methods would be like 0.00001%" it only serves to make him look more retarded than he already does

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:06:35 2018 No.20074380 >>20074374 actually i bet the vast majority of djt agrees with me on that fact, but they would disagree with the framing.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:07:10 2018 No.20074383 File: 28 KB, 533x387, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20074371 ok draw your katana and save it from the man himself

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:08:13 2018 No.20074390 >>20074383 the fuck. as in he's going back to a school in japan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:08:15 2018 No.20074391 >>20074359 Hey jamal. How long have been studying and how good are you. also got any good anime recs, in terms of pre 00 go I have seen evangelion yuu yuu hakusho sailor moon urusei yatsura

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:10:29 2018 No.20074398 >>20074383 Honestly I kinda want to join his patreon to see the retrain that is his life. but then I don't want to fuel his delusions of grandeur. Anyone reposted his patreon vids?

yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:12:27 2018 No.20074406

>>20074391
hey dude

im just all right i aint studied since i was in grammar school theres a couple of peeps that show up in these threads that are familiar w. all kinda shit im not

anime recs? fuck yea i got em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDrvhdwkpVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTOZhZSr6RY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iflsELvgrfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iH2_WcEGso

all extremely ftw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:13:16 2018 No.20074412 今は、妹の尿まみれです甘〜い

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:14:34 2018 No.20074418 What's the word I will never encounter and never have to use?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:15:20 2018 No.20074421 >>20074418 嫁

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:15:52 2018 No.20074424 >>20074418 ワギナ

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:16:29 2018 No.20074426 >>20074412 こんなクソヘンタイ兄貴を持つ妹は可哀想

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:18:29 2018 No.20074436 >>20074426 はい、とても可愛そうです

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:21:30 2018 No.20074456 >>20074412 甘い尿は病気の症状かもしれんぞ病院連れてってやれ

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:21:42 2018 No.20074459 File: 765 KB, 1062x996, 1538691010377.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how the FUCK do you learn Japanese? This thread raises more questions than it answers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:25:34 2018 No.20074480 >>20074459 >>20073677

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:27:59 2018 No.20074491 >>20074459 >>20066390

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:31:18 2018 No.20074507 File: 7 KB, 905x94, キャプチャ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does this mean the real aim is actually 7500 sentences? Has anyone here gotten that far with sentence mining?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:31:37 2018 No.20074508 >>20074456 いえ。ただの可愛い妹の症状です可愛い妹が甘い尿を持つことは普通で大丈夫です

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:34:02 2018 No.20074517

I decided to implore the ajatt strategy of lying about time spent with the language. Even though I decided to start 14 months ago, I spent the first 8 months doing gay shit like duolingo and taking reddit advice. So I have only been studying for 6 months, which means I am incredible at Japanese for how long I have been studying. My method is objectively the best as after only 6 months I am way better then those ajatt fags at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:34:36 2018 No.20074520 >>20074459 go to /int/DJT for questions

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:38:42 2018 No.20074546 >>20074507 britvsjapan, the two bens, nick, etc.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:38:50 2018 No.20074549 >>20074507 why mine when you can just read manga

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:39:08 2018 No.20074551

Why is stuff like wanikani bad? Is it just because it costs money? To clarify I'm completly ignorant on the subject. I'm basically a fresh learner as in I just finished memorizing the kana and I'm reading through Japanese the mang way at the moment so my journey is just starting.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:42:57 2018 No.20074562

>>20074551
It is bad in the same way everything you think is good for the next 6 months is also bad. It is beginner bait that wastes your time. Studying japanese is a horrible waste of time, just watch raw anime and read compelling content and you will make it in 3000 hours of pleasure (number came out of my ass)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:43:27 2018 No.20074564 >>20074549 why not both?

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:44:02 2018 No.20074567 >>20074564 cause if youre in the tard mines youre not reading manga ftw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:47:54 2018 No.20074589 >>20074567 you're not really convincing when you just resort to name calling

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:48:59 2018 No.20074593 >>20074589 do u want to mine? think abt it and then follow ur heart

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:50:35 2018 No.20074604

>>20074459
Pretend you are a living creature and you want to consume this information like food. Then eat everything you can. Find the biggest pieces you can fit in your mouth any way you can and just consume. Become a glutten. Nom nom nom your way to fluency. Yw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:50:44 2018 No.20074606 >>20074551 Name one person that's reached fluency from using it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:53:56 2018 No.20074618 >>20074606 Me bitch!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:55:32 2018 No.20074624 Will watching videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zha2IPQ9EWE really make me fluent

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 18:55:41 2018 No.20074625 >>20074606 I think wanikani is shit too but dogen used it. Here for a real question, name one person who succeeded without reading the haruhi ln series.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 18:57:43 2018 No.20074631 >>20074618 vetting this post on the grounds of might is right

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:00:16 2018 No.20074640 >>20074625 Hmm I didn't even know there was an ln of Haruhi

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:01:04 2018 No.20074643 >>20074624 fluent in dqn utuber nihongo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:01:11 2018 No.20074644 >>20072692 Needs to be the 32-bit version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:03:33 2018 No.20074660 >>20072692 why use an emulator? just switch your system over

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:03:54 2018 No.20074662
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>>20074640
-> /int/

Are you retarded? It is like one of the most popular light novels.

Based on this list it is the most popular good ln. Also 頑張れ oreimo, Shocked it is so high up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:04:45 2018 No.20074666 >>20074644 サンキュー！

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:06:25 2018 No.20074675 Is the 3DS location locked? Like I'll need to order a 3DS straight from Japan in order to play games in Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:08:37 2018 No.20074682 >>20074675 Just install custom firmware and pirate all the Japanese games you want.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:08:42 2018 No.20074684 File: 100 KB, 1440x1080, Blank+_9cc46068fe4010cd5c8276987537076e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20074662 forgot the list : https://tanoshimi.xyz/2016/09/02/best-selling-light-novels/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:08:45 2018 No.20074686 >>20074662 really wearing your autism on your sleeves today aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:10:31 2018 No.20074693 >>20074684 thanks for the list, I'll check em out. The ln I'm reading right now is garbo

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:12:44 2018 No.20074699

>>20074675
Yes but the 3DS can be easily hacked to play anything. Unfortunately Nintendo put protection on their eshop (up until recently you could actually just scan a QR code and download games directly from their servers for free) but you can still run pirated CIAs and region locked physical games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:15:01 2018 No.20074706 Neet thanks. I was about to ask if hacking my 3DS would make me lose access to anything I purchased on the eshop but I guess that's kind of a moot point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:16:06 2018 No.20074713 >>20074675 Just get a Switch or PS4. Those are region-free.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:16:36 2018 No.20074715
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>>20074693
If you want a more up to date list with modern series

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-05-31/top-selling-light-novels-by-series-in-japan-2018/.132246

honestly an overall higher quality list. re:zero is the best.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:16:48 2018 No.20074716 File: 15 KB, 644x800, d90.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20074713

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:20:06 2018 No.20074731 what are some well known translators who learned by reading a lot

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:21:03 2018 No.20074734

>>20074706
You won't lose anything, you don't have to wipe your SD card and the CFW is undetectable so you can keep using the eshop to buy shit just fine. The eshop is region locked though, if you want to access the Japanese one and don't have a Japanese system you will have to go through changing the system's region which looks to be a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:21:54 2018 No.20074738 >>20074731 Translators do not know japanese. >>20074716 but my wife's boyfriend said he would buy it for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:23:16 2018 No.20074745 >>20074684 Has anyone here read Slayers or Orphen? Are they difficult series to read?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:27:58 2018 No.20074760 File: 97 KB, 1216x676, shipping error.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this basically saying the shipper won't send it to me because I'm a filthy gaijin?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:33:58 2018 No.20074768 >>20074760 Yes, get the individual ones that are shipped by Amazon or use tenso. Amazon will ship books and discs internationally but other sellers on their website will mostly never do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:35:55 2018 No.20074773 is it time for me to stop blindly listening and just mine the script for the most frequent words and then try to notice those words while listening?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:36:48 2018 No.20074778 >>20074731 麦殿

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:37:58 2018 No.20074780 File: 136 KB, 1241x504, 1524709602129.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where can I watch Japanese baseball so I can learn Japanese the official Steve Kaufmann way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:38:50 2018 No.20074784 >>20074780 You should do it the Heisig way instead by playing Japanese baseball.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:40:12 2018 No.20074789 I'll show Kaufmann some compelling content unzips pants

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:40:52 2018 No.20074790

>>20074784
I read an interview with James Heisig where he mentioned learning to speak Japanese by playing with children, somewhere up in the mountains. How could you even make this stuff up? So when I heard the man was in Tokyo, I knew I had to ask him about it.

Because here’s the extent of what I learned from children by teaching grade school in Japan for several years: The word for lunch. How to say “I’m so cold.” How to say “I’m so hot.” How to grab your teacher’s penis and exclaim “bigu sticku.” How to insert your fingers up his butt in a move known as the kancho. Beyond that, children typically ramble about some toy or cartoon or playground game. They’re not going to coach you on how to make hotel reservations or order up another plate of gyoza. The idea that one could learn to speak from them is insane. They can’t even use the language decently themselves. That’s because they’re freaking kids.

I met Heisig at a writer’s workshop. He seemed a pleasant enough fellow, and a fine teller of grandiose stories. After listening to his well-polished tale about singlehandedly inventing a way of learning Japanese characters that millions of Japanese folks had never thought of in their thousands of years of history, I finally got a chance to ask him, “How did you learn to speak it?”

“I played baseball with the kids,” was his reply. “Up in the mountains. In Nagano.

“You played baseball?” I asked. “With children?

“Yep.

“And that’s how you learned to speak Japanese?

“Sure. Children are the best teachers.”

Now, that sounds reasonable. Everybody nodded. But it isn’t reasonable. It sounds good, but it’s actually nuts. Children are the worst teachers. They make no damn sense.

You know, over the years, I’ve asked many people how they learned Japanese, and their answers consistently fall into one of two categories. They either describe a systematic method pursued diligently over the course of several years, or they make up some convenient bullshit because they don’t really want to respond to the question. I looked at Heisig, and had my answer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:45:22 2018 No.20074807 >>20072633 nuke left memrise over half a year ago. he just uses anki and immersion now.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:48:41 2018 No.20074819

>>20074380
0.00001% is one in ten million users, it would mean that in the entirety of /jp/ history not a single person (outside ajatt) had EVER learned japanese even to an ajatt level, and that's just absolute horseshit

the people in THIS thread aren't spectacular (neither are most ajatters) but using it to conclude that literally nobody learned japanese outside this thread is like visiting /sci/'s math homework thread and using it to conclude that nobody in /sci/ ever learned math

it's just phenomenally fucking poor extrapolation

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:49:42 2018 No.20074823 >>20074773 Listen to content that you are compelled to pay attention to and understand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:50:46 2018 No.20074830 >>20074459 3 hours a day: 1 hour anki: 6k/genki/whatever 30 min: grammar 90min: consume media if you know less than 1000 words bump grammar to 2 hours or just don't do anythigng till then

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:50:48 2018 No.20074831 >>20074819 then take off a 0. millions try to learn japanese and fail.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:52:07 2018 No.20074840 >>20073307 taking an hour to learn 20 to 30 new things everyday with sentence mining along with four hours of immersion is far better than just five hours of immersion alone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:52:43 2018 No.20074845 >>20074831 the millions of people who learn japanese and fail (are there even millions?) are people who gave up halfway, not people who militantly consumed content for ten thousand hours but did it wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:54:49 2018 No.20074858 >>20074845 they gave up for many reasons but one of them is that their method sucked >not people who militantly consumed content for ten thousand hours but did it wrong ?

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:56:21 2018 No.20074860

>>20074858
>they gave up for many reasons but one of them is that their method sucked
you have literally no evidence that the only factor that determines whether someone ever learns japanese isn't simply whether or not they're willing to commit to learning it

zero evidence exists that your secret sauce helps people learn japanese in any way other than by subscribing them to a cult which they don't want to give up on

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:58:20 2018 No.20074870 >>20074860 whether or not they're willing to commit is influenced by their progress, and progress is influenced by how effective the method is. >which they don't want to give up on sounds like ajatt works then.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 19:58:35 2018 No.20074871 you definitely dont have to try to learn japanese you just have to show up

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 19:58:54 2018 No.20074874 >>20074830 Congratulations on starting learning japanese last week, but i am afraid this ain't it nephew. this is it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1bbGuTQmto

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:01:28 2018 No.20074888

>>20074870
>whether or not they're willing to commit is influenced by their progress
whether or not you're willing to commit is influenced primarily by how much you are committed to japanese media, or alternatively, how much of an autistic bastard you are.

>sounds like ajatt works then.
it works in the sense that a cult dedicated to chanting satanic verses while drawing would help anyone who doesn't quit the cult become a better artist, but not because anything they teach is actually useful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:02:29 2018 No.20074893 >>20074888 >whether or not you're willing to commit is influenced primarily by how much you are committed to japanese media probably >it works in the sense that it works, but not that it teaches anything actually useful OK

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:04:13 2018 No.20074898 >>20073906 people learning chinese use an app that color codes words based in a sentence on their tone. surprised there's not one for japanese pitch accent. would make noticing (and remembering) pitch much easier.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:05:18 2018 No.20074904

>>20074893
i mean if you're going to advertise for ajatt on the grounds that it helps people find the immense autism necessary to not give up on learning japanese you do that

it's when you make bold claims about the efficacy of their actual techniques that people are going to ask for actual evidence that has a chance in hell of satisfying the most basic "is it data" tests.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:09:26 2018 No.20074918

>>20074904
the evidence for ajatt is input. the input is why so many more ajatters are fluent compared to typical learners. if your problem with ajatt is that you think sentences are dumb then who cares? it's not optimal at worst while still being effective.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 20:12:08 2018 No.20074928 >>20074898 you dont want that trust me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:15:22 2018 No.20074937 >>20074918 sentences are sub-optimal. optimal is reading nothing but oreimo. not mining is not reading.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 20:17:51 2018 No.20074948 >>20074937 oreimos fuckin gay tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:31:42 2018 No.20074995 >>20074928 besides not doing it for everything, just something for sentences that have audio in a deck, why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:48:12 2018 No.20075024 File: 393 KB, 950x720, 1526991305651.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can 頭を振る ever be read as あたまをふる, or is it also かぶりをふる like JMDICT says?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:56:29 2018 No.20075043 >>20074871 Only sensible post on this topic. The only effort you have to put in is self restraint enough to consistently "do" nihongo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:58:53 2018 No.20075056 >>20075043 Best when it doesn't involve any sort of restraint and you just do shit in Japanese because you want to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:59:04 2018 No.20075057 >pitch accent memeing If you are planning on using japanese to communicate above all else please go to int thanks ^_^

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 20:59:08 2018 No.20075058 >>20075024 I've heard it as あたま many times before, usually in 頭を横に振る. かぶり is an idiomatic reading I guess, like in 頭を垂れる.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:14:12 2018 No.20075112 >>20075043 Exactly. All the people that get good love to learn it point blank. It's a talent only given to those with a passion for it. If it's a chore to you then just give up now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:20:48 2018 No.20075137 >>20075112 i'm not gonna give up but yes, leyline is a huge fucking chore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:21:23 2018 No.20075143 妹の個人のトイレになったらいいな

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 21:23:50 2018 No.20075154 >>20075137 give up on geyline and move on to something u actually are into

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:24:47 2018 No.20075158 >>20075143 if your younger sister becomes a personal toilet that's good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:26:42 2018 No.20075164 >>20075158 what are particles

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:28:15 2018 No.20075173 >>20075164 did i get it right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:28:28 2018 No.20075175 >>20075137 Ley Line is good but I agree that you should drop it. Watch more anime and drink more manga before you attempt to tackle an erotic game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:28:37 2018 No.20075176 >>20075158 "It'd be good if I could become my little sisters personal toilet"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:28:46 2018 No.20075177 >>20075158 そっちがいいね

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:29:21 2018 No.20075182 >>20075164 >>20075173 oh no it's good if you become your younger sister's personal toilet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:31:31 2018 No.20075196 >>20075154 not into anything with this level of understanding. >>20075175 watching raw anime has made me despise it. lack of text hooking for manga would make it harder to learn from so i would only read other vns, lns, or something on a website.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:34:10 2018 No.20075210

Has anyone had any good learning or immersive experience with mmos or online games? And I mean more in the talking to other people sense, not just reading menus and stuff. Preferably something with the sociability of runescape for example, and free.
I've tried FFIV but didn't really get into it and don't really remember seeing other people. PSO2 had a decent number of people but like no one talked. I don't think DQO is open to mutts either, or f2p for that matter. I'll try looking through some 5ch boards for more stuff but I'd like some input if you guys have any.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:35:08 2018 No.20075215 >>20075182 Correct in both regards

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:35:46 2018 No.20075218 >>20075196 >lack of text hooking for manga would make it harder to learn from Dude you can literally just open the subtitle file and get the text

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:36:54 2018 No.20075226 >>20075218 manga don't have subtitle files. you meant anime. i've considered doing that but i think i'll stick with geyline.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:39:14 2018 No.20075234 >>20075196 >text hooking for manga why do people hate reading this much

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:43:46 2018 No.20075251 >>20075196 >watching raw anime has made me despise it. So watch subbed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:44:08 2018 No.20075253 >>20075234 why would i "read" a manga and understand 0.1% of it (and not looking anything up because spending 10 seconds looking up every word is a pain in the ass) when i can "read" a vn and understand 1% of it using a hover dictionary?

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:46:36 2018 No.20075263

>>20075210
You'll learn nothing but net slang and inflections if it's text chat. If there's voice chat try for it, though. Trying to emulate their speech patterns helped me get over pronunciations and enunciations.

Just be prepared to have the conversation be about how you sound foreign. (but they actually think that's amazing for some reason)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:46:49 2018 No.20075264 >>20075253 Because even if you understand 100% (case in point subbed anime) doesn't mean you will learn jack shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:47:04 2018 No.20075266 >>20075253 >hover dictionary I should get one of these, any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:49:59 2018 No.20075279 >>20075266 rikaichamp has fewer bugs and is more up to date yomichan has audio and lets you scroll through the definitions, which (rarely) matters in case the definition is one of the less frequently used ones toward the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:54:28 2018 No.20075301 This is driving me crazy. What is the difference between なければ and なくては when used as "must do". For instance, 行かなければ and 行かなくては

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 21:54:32 2018 No.20075302 >>20075279 Oh I got yomi, I thought there was a out of browser one for VN's or something..

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:00:02 2018 No.20075332 >>20075302 i use clipboard inserter on a blank html page. text is automatically copied to that page as it appears in ITHVNR. i unassigned hotkeys from yomichan so it's always on or off depending on if i have the extension enabled.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 22:01:03 2018 No.20075340 >>20075301 行かなくては means you have something specific that you gotta go do

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:03:16 2018 No.20075354 俺の口が妹尿満々!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:23:54 2018 No.20075460 >>20075354 そうですか、でもね、その前にお前の妹は俺様の陰茎をしゃぶった、尿までを飲んだ、故にお前の口にいる液体は大分ワシの源で作ったんだよ

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:24:56 2018 No.20075466 >>20075340 Thanks. So 学校に行かなくては = I have to go to school (and nothing else), 学校に行かなければ = I have to go to school (and possibly other things)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:28:39 2018 No.20075494 >>20075460 >いる piss isn't alive

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:30:55 2018 No.20075505 >>20075494 What is "alive"? Something with a heartbeat? Are plants not alive then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:32:18 2018 No.20075511 ゲイゲイゲイの鬼太郎

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 22:32:24 2018 No.20075512 >>20075460 いえそんなこと絶対ない。俺がずっと妹のそばにいたんだから

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:00:13 2018 No.20075599 >>20074716 >Mods delete the file and leave the blank post Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:04:39 2018 No.20075613 >>20075466 考えないで、文脈で感じて

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:08:56 2018 No.20075628 >>20073648 Holy shit I've been studying for 10 months mining sentences like AJATT says and I literally cannot understand anything that's going on here This must be what "not gonna make it" feels like...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:12:56 2018 No.20075642 >>20075628 umm thats like the most basic shit I've ever read.. you really are not going to make it

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Oct 15 23:13:20 2018 No.20075644 >>20075466 no its more like former is you because things in this world are the way they are u gotta go to school everyones gotta go to school the latter has less of that pressure on it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:14:54 2018 No.20075652 >>20073648 Do vn-core and Tae-Kim and this is baby stuff..

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:31:33 2018 No.20075695 妹に漏らさせることは超おもしれー

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:35:42 2018 No.20075702 >>20075137 read something bad like flyable heart then it doesnt matter if you don't understand anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:39:38 2018 No.20075716 >>20075628 Wat? I've been sentence mining for two weeks and understand most of this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:52:54 2018 No.20075759 渡しはゲイデス

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 23:56:33 2018 No.20075782 >start reading LN >enjoying it >really want to watch the anime version but feel like it's more productive to read anyone else

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:02:11 2018 No.20075792 >>20075782 just read vns, it's pretty much anime+lns thus the literal definition of epic win.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:02:51 2018 No.20075795 >>20075782 I just watch Jdrama. This week I watched Missデビル, Chia Dan, and 1リター涙. Jdramas are addictive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:07:51 2018 No.20075812 >>20072096 nicht in diesem Ton mein Freundchen

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:10:25 2018 No.20075825
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This one is about a sexy girl that kicks someone every episode in their face/jaw. Sometimes she kicks two faces, but always at least one face per episode. Right when she kicks you get some panty fan service.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:16:04 2018 No.20075843 >>20072126 Why are monolingual anglo plebs like you so fucking stupid that you don't even know the history of your only language. English is less than 50% English, and is the most mutt language of them all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIo-17SIkws

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:22:35 2018 No.20075866 >>20075792 vns are cool but having to look words up via text hooker slows it down too much for me at my current level. probably a year or two from now i'll get big into them

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:27:12 2018 No.20075889 File: 292 KB, 339x387, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yfw the sentence is i+1

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:33:57 2018 No.20075927 >>20075866 how is it slower than looking up in lns? just enable auto-copy to clipboard and alt tab to jisho or your preferred dictionary website and ctrl+v + enter

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:40:43 2018 No.20075955 >>20075866 use clipboard inserter and you can rikai over it like with lns

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:50:38 2018 No.20075984 >>20075466 no, they are pretty much the same

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 00:51:50 2018 No.20075987

>>20075927
>>20075955
yeah i just find it more distracting to constantly be tabbing away from the game window is all. with an ln i don't have to worry about that, but with vns there's constant tabbing over to my browser and thus more opportunities to go "oh i got a reply"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 01:05:34 2018 No.20076032 >>20075987 Close your social media tabs. Better yet, block those websites during study time

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 01:17:13 2018 No.20076064 Should I just quit when I get to the jinmeiyo kanji? They're fuckin stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 01:35:52 2018 No.20076105 尿用漢字 best 漢字

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 01:49:20 2018 No.20076150 >>20072998 >>20075234 Manga isn't reading though.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 01:55:19 2018 No.20076166

Learning the Kanji is excellent, but can someone explain why sometimes 代 gets dropped from a compound reading? I've seen this in a couple of vidya titles but I'm sure this isn't the only situation where this occurs

>黄金の太陽：失われし時代
>時代 is read as とき for some reason
>BSゼルダの伝説：古代の石盤
>古代 is read as いにしえ

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 02:23:01 2018 No.20076282 >>20073648 １．ゆめがつまっています２．ものはいつかこわれるものです３．ピアノをひきます４．だいじなのはいまなにをするかだとおもいます５．ヒトカラ II．このあいだアニメがしこたまはいったHDDがクラッシュしました。これからはバックアップをとっておこうとおもいます。

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 02:35:01 2018 No.20076314
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>>20076166
It's not "dropped", it's that thing where a different reading is used for its phonetic qualities. 運命 (さだめ), 宇宙 (そら) etc. It's also generally accompanied by furigana, as you can see in pic related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 02:37:00 2018 No.20076320 日本語力が増えてることが感じられられるいけるかも

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 02:55:30 2018 No.20076378 >>20076320 あきがきたなあとかんじるときはどんなときですか

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:05:01 2018 No.20076395 >>20076378 >あきがきた？飽き？

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:06:55 2018 No.20076398 >>20076395 おーたむ/ふぉーる autmun/fall

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:28:41 2018 No.20076447 かわいいねんて、そんなこといっちゃだめです〜

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:31:35 2018 No.20076457 >>20076447 ふわふわ苺たちがやってくる

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:35:44 2018 No.20076463 >>20076457 う・る・さ・いこえがちかづいてくる

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:45:43 2018 No.20076489 Anyone read Majikoi? Is there anything particularly difficult about it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:58:03 2018 No.20076533 File: 267 KB, 801x1200, DZHWbUKVwAENcHP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yoshi time for anki

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 03:58:33 2018 No.20076534 >>20075628 >>20075716 Holy shit you guys, I've been reading Genki for literally 3 days and I understand every word.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 04:07:19 2018 No.20076555 >>20075716 >Wat? He' obviously meming. Even someone fresh out of [insert beginner guide here] should be able to read that no problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 04:08:02 2018 No.20076557 >>20076555 Fuck you I've meditated for 4 weeks and still can't read that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:06:16 2018 No.20076722 >>20073687 >>20073694 >>20073704 >>20073715 >>20074115 Jokes on him, The voices in my head are all native speakers, even anime voices for different characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:10:30 2018 No.20076730 >>20076398 How is this related?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:12:50 2018 No.20076737 Posting まっｔ should be a bannable offense.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:17:58 2018 No.20076752

Need advice, I'm learning Radicals, decided to learn the radicals before jumping into full kanji.

However i'm still reading all the while and would come across stuff i remember more over time.

I wanted to learn the radicals first so i can use their combinations into kanji to help me remember them.
For example: mouth+Lid+Fire = This kanji etc

However it's becoming tedious and i wonder if i should go straight into learning all kanji and increase my vocab.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:21:05 2018 No.20076762 What the fuck has happened to Rikaichan? The lookup bar is gone, and you can't switch through dictionaries anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:25:59 2018 No.20076780 >>20076752 ネイティブは漢字のつくりよりくっつきかたをおもんじるよ動なら >　運 >行動作 >　力こうやってくっつけてあそびながらおぼえる

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:29:30 2018 No.20076791 >>20076762 Rikaichan is still around? I thought there was only Rikaichamp and RikaiRebuilt now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:36:36 2018 No.20076809 File: 1004 KB, 1000x800, WE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >墓参り区ゆっくりさせるよ What's he saying after "visit to a grave" here? I can't get how it fits in

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:37:09 2018 No.20076810 >>20076791 Have been using it since it first appeared, and essentially it has been werking just fine. Was on FF ESR52 until last month, have switched to the main release branch again and was met with its current state.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:39:14 2018 No.20076814 >>20075889 stop fucking editing pictures of matt and giving him a receding hairline

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 05:51:17 2018 No.20076836

>>20076810
Did you install Rikaichan from scratch when you upgraded? The "Rikaichan" currently up on the Mozilla site isn't actually the original Rikaichan but a fork made by a different dev for the new Firefox add-on API. Considering it hasn't been updated for an entire year, I'd say you're better off using Rikaichamp or RikaiRebuilt instead. You might also consider Yomichan if you don't mind the fact that it's slow and ugly, but Yomichan hasn't been updated in a year either despite having a major deinflection bug.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 06:09:48 2018 No.20076885

>>20076836
From scratch. The old rikaichan used the discontinued extension interface after all.
It was part of the reason I stayed with ESR52.
>Rikaichamp
>I'll work on adding the lookup bar back
That sounds good. Nice to see a dev actually giving a fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 06:15:49 2018 No.20076897 >>20076885 Yeah, Rikaichamp seems like it has a good dev. He actually responds to bug reports and updates the add-on frequently. I just wish he'd add Anki support to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 06:35:16 2018 No.20076939 >>20076809 I wish I could help you but I don't know japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 07:04:33 2018 No.20077032 だがな・・・偶然手に入れたハズのこの体それがオレとおまえを引き合わせたのかもしれん This is something about a body acquired coincidentally, right?

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 07:15:08 2018 No.20077053
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Is repetition important? I've heard Steve and others talk about listening to a particular piece of content many times over, but I've never done it myself.

What sort of content is actually good for this purpose? I can't imagine doing it with an audiovisual medium like anime since a lot of the audio is going to be tied to visual context from the show (「そーそれは！？」、「何故あいつがあんな物を…？」, etc.) which without you can't follow what's going on. Not to mention all the big gaps in the audio where stuff is going on visually and nobody is speaking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 07:44:31 2018 No.20077143 >>20077053 just listen to しゃべりすぎゲーマー on IGN JAPAN

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 07:45:43 2018 No.20077148 >>20077143 Don't want to listen to non-natives.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:05:25 2018 No.20077248 watch the ign boys ftw

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:05:58 2018 No.20077255 >>20077053 >What sort of content is actually good for this purpose? Anything that you enjoy listening to will suffice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:12:39 2018 No.20077281 >>20077255 I wouldn't say music counts and I don't listen to any other audio-only media. Should I look into drama CDs or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:13:46 2018 No.20077284 >>20077053 I use audiobooks of books I already read, it's not super repetitive and I notice a lot of improvement when I start it over

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:21:22 2018 No.20077314 >>20077281 Why does it have to be audio-only media though? I listen to anime episodes while doing other things throughout the day, even if there's things I don't get because I'm not watching, it's still helping me improve my listening skills.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:23:43 2018 No.20077335 File: 24 KB, 852x171, Screenshot_2018-10-16 Interview With TkyoSam - YouTube.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQh3tjJBj5Q

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:24:19 2018 No.20077338 >>20077314 >Why does it have to be audio-only media though? It doesn't absolutely have to be, but I would prefer something made with strictly listening in mind which doesn't depend on visual context for the reasons I mentioned in my first post.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:26:17 2018 No.20077346 >>20077335 nice 20 mins of 2 ugly ass mofos

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:27:19 2018 No.20077351 File: 145 KB, 1280x720, tyu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20077335 seriously god damn that fat fuck gives these a run for their money

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:29:52 2018 No.20077369 >>20077338 Have you tried listening to radio shows or podcasts?

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:31:25 2018 No.20077376

>>20077335
>pic
Wonder when he'll finally figure out that the simpler solution to his Anki woes is to just stop doing and recommending his retarded sentence cards that take him 20 seconds per rep. There's a reason that the default settings work just fine for everyone other than AJATTers.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:33:36 2018 No.20077389 rare non worthless part of a matt vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQh3tjJBj5Q#t=597

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:35:58 2018 No.20077411 >>20077389 look at those narrow basedboy shoulders

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:36:51 2018 No.20077417 おそうじしたいのにダイソンがないおくって

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:37:57 2018 No.20077422 >>20077411 you think if we took him in for a full brazilian wax burned his neckbeard off put a wig and a dress on him hed look good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:39:22 2018 No.20077431 you don't use noni in this case bro. ga is more fitting

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:39:30 2018 No.20077432 >>20077389 >i'm really nervous because he's basically a celebrity to me... i probably sound all nervous and jittery the absolute state of matt

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:41:10 2018 No.20077445 >>20077431 prepare the bodybag boys

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:43:01 2018 No.20077457

lyrics are good for vocab, because they make remembering vocab easier for me, because it rings in my ears in the context of the song
you surely need to deal with very slangish and narrow range of grammar, so it's mostly just for initial vocab, because lyrics' vocab is pretty narrow in the end too

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:44:08 2018 No.20077461 >>20077457 karaoke is even better because i have to learn how to say the words right

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:47:34 2018 No.20077476 >>20077461 you must be an anglo if you don't know how to say the words since day 1 Japanese is one of the easiest languages to pronounce pitch accent aside, I have all the sounds in my language

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 08:49:53 2018 No.20077492 its fine and great to enjoy music doing any retard shit with it to try to learn japanese is bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdBX_cqtAs

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:49:58 2018 No.20077493 >>20077476 let's hear you say atatakai lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:57:41 2018 No.20077537 >>20077476 >pitch accent Unfortunately for you, pitch accent is part of pronunciation and if you're getting it wrong then you aren't pronouncing words correctly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 08:59:32 2018 No.20077550 >>20077493 you fucking what, I would pronounce it just how it's read vowels of my language cover the very same sounds vowels in Japanese cover, so there's no way I could mispronounce it, and consonants in this case are the same too

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:00:17 2018 No.20077556 >>20077537 ひともじのはつおんがいろいろばれちゃうくらいにはつおんのこうていはとってもだいじ

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:02:09 2018 No.20077573

>>20077537
>Unfortunately for you, pitch accent is part of pronunciation and if you're getting it wrong then you aren't pronouncing words correctly.
say the same to all the ESL speakers who don't speak with your accent, that they basically don't know how to pronounce your language...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:05:59 2018 No.20077596 >>20077573 I have no problem with telling them that because it's true. When ESLs fuck up English stress accent they are not pronouncing English correctly. To any native speaker, their pronunciation sounds wrong.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:08:12 2018 No.20077617

>>20075987
i don't have to tab over to anything. i just put them all on the same monitor. also if you use a hover dictionary you don't have to bother with jisho or the like so it's all seamless. maybe an over reliance on hover dictionaries permanently cripples your japanese, so maybe i should stop using it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:14:32 2018 No.20077649 >>20077335 From this interview I learned Khatz is one of those minorities that acts as a victim. Sucks.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:15:02 2018 No.20077653

>>20077596
>stress accent
well, guess what, I speak a Slavic language and we also have the stress thing on the penultimate syllable etc., I had a lesson on it at school and nobody knew what the teacher was talking about
we were supposed to say out loud some words and she straight out told us that we stressed it incorrectly - guess what again, nobody gives a fuck about that shit
surely as a native I got some of it naturally, but ultimately, turns out I mispronounce my language too - only people who act in stage plays are super pedantic about stressing words because their job requires it, nobody else gives a fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:16:48 2018 No.20077665 >>20077653 idk about your language but that's not the case in english. as a native if someone stresses a word wrong it's an immediate "that's wrong". it's not a big deal but still.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:28:10 2018 No.20077706

>>20077653
>I had a lesson on it at school and nobody knew what the teacher was talking about
we were supposed to say out loud some words and she straight out told us that we stressed it incorrectly - guess what again, nobody gives a fuck about that shit
That may be the case for your language, but it's not the case for English. Any native speaker will be able to note the stress difference between, say, incite and insight. Whenever I listen to an ESL and they fuck up the stress on a word, I immediately notice it and it stands out considerably.

I'm not saying you have to speak English with a perfect stress accent. As a native speaker, I'm used to hearing some really bad accents (some so bad as to be completely incomprehensible), so as far as I'm concerned so long as you're intelligible I'm not going to get upset. But the fact of the matter is, stress is a part of correct English pronunciation and if you are getting it wrong then you aren't pronouncing words correctly and any native speaker will immediately be able to out you as a non-native speaker based on that alone.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:32:05 2018 No.20077729

>>20077706
>will immediately be able to out you as a non-native speaker based on that alone.
sure, but that doesn't matter much if you don't care
and that trick doesn't work with Japanese because they'll ultimately see you aren't Japanese by not looking like them

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:33:59 2018 No.20077739 >>20077729 >and that trick doesn't work with Japanese because they'll ultimately see you aren't Japanese by not looking like them https://youtu.be/oLt5qSm9U80

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 09:39:29 2018 No.20077775 File: 95 KB, 1618x1078, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i feel like ive seen this guy somewhere before

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 09:41:12 2018 No.20077783 >>20077775 Matto desu ne

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 09:59:28 2018 No.20077859 >>20077706 cutting edge stuff right here breaking news if you dont sound like everybody else youre prolly not from round these ere parts partner

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:00:03 2018 No.20077866 >>20077775 he looks like the onions version of feels guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:03:27 2018 No.20077883 >>20077859 >german turk getting butthurt about accent discussion color me surprised

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 10:05:02 2018 No.20077893 i just thought it was sick you wrote all that shit that could be summed up in one simple line wouldnt have even replied but nothing else was poppin

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:11:03 2018 No.20077924 when you get through more sentences but understand even less

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:14:33 2018 No.20077946

I'm playing Dragon Quest 5 right now because eceleb Tim Rogers says that was how he got fluent and after searching google forドラクエセリフ discovered this site that not only has seemingly all DQ game text, but also a novelized summary for 5. These summaries are fantastic to read right after you play, excellent beginner level stuff to be had here for anyone else who is or has played DQ5.

http://light37.web.fc2.com/dragon/dq5/dq5playnovel.htm

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 10:15:31 2018 No.20077952 >>20077924 if the amount of incomprehensible input outweighs the amount of comprehensible input your scenario happens

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:16:38 2018 No.20077956 >>20077946 >says that was how he got fluent Even if you knew 3 times all the words used in dragon quest 5 you probably still wouldn't be fluent. He is just saying that cause it sounds cool and plausible to EOP

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:18:30 2018 No.20077968 he probably just means that was what got him to a level where he could branch out to other media and learn from them. but like you said, it sounds cooler to claim that X beginner material is what got you fluent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:18:45 2018 No.20077971 You dont even want to sound perfect. Having a foreign accent makes you special and interesting

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:20:12 2018 No.20077979 >>20077971 pretty much this. matt said so.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 10:20:26 2018 No.20077982 sounding like shit is the way to go of course you dont want to be rude sounding but people who clearly care about language are weirdos and its why they end up with no friends in japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:20:35 2018 No.20077984 the problem with being wrong on pitch is people won't correct you if they understand you. that means you need a tutor or better yet voice coach to nitpick your shitty accent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:24:40 2018 No.20078001 シットポースチングのことになってしまいましたわね

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:25:15 2018 No.20078005 sorry forgot what the zu form does let me google that.

yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 10:26:16 2018 No.20078009

or you can just not worry about it and let society be your voice coach because youll naturally understand at some point when something sounds good and has impact youll try to imitate it

if you were gonna have a [professional] tutor you should have them from day one to truly optimize your path to fluency

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:26:46 2018 No.20078011 >>20078005 ググらずわかる方が健康的ね

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:27:50 2018 No.20078017 [DELETED]

>>20077432
Matt is a petty social manipulator with a superiority complex. He opened the video with this comment to be brazenly sarcastic to Sam who would not pick up on it in an attempt to elevate himself. Sam is an ass, but maybe not as big of one as Matt.

Matt is just so fucking jealous that Sam had real life interactions with Khatz and would literally fuck Sam in the ass if he could trade places with him.

Matt is now desperately trying to recoup all that time he spent studying only to realize he has no practical use for Japanese so he doesn't kill himself for wasting his youth by becoming a cult leader or at least taking money from all the dekinais who should be immersing and studying instead of looking to egomaniacs and gurus for the answers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:28:09 2018 No.20078019 >>20078009 Actually good advice イエーイ

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:29:38 2018 No.20078025 >>20078017 >to be brazenly sarcastic yea you're definitely autistic.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:30:45 2018 No.20078032

>>20077432
Matt is a petty social manipulator with a superiority complex. He opened the video with this comment to be brazenly sarcastic to Sam who would not pick up on it in an attempt to elevate himself. Sam is an ass, but maybe not as big of one as Matt.

Matt is just so fucking jealous that Sam had real life interactions with Khatz and would literally fuck Sam in the ass if he could trade places with him.

Matt is now desperately trying to recoup all that time he spent studying only to realize he has no practical use for Japanese so he doesn't kill himself for wasting his youth by attempting to becoming a cult leader or at least harvesting money from all the dekinais who should be immersing and studying instead of looking to egomaniacs and gurus for the answers.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 10:31:12 2018 No.20078035 >>20078017 are we talkin physically or metaphorically as big of an ass lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:31:52 2018 No.20078036 >>20078025 maybe blatently sarcastic would be better here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:33:09 2018 No.20078043 >>20078036 no, he wasn't being sarcastic. matt is just a little weirdo dweeb like that.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 10:33:28 2018 No.20078047 and we shall call him >>20078032 the matt whisperer

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:38:49 2018 No.20078067

>>20078043
stating that sam was like a celebrity to him is the same tactic people use to get onto live talk radio or television to get past the screeners just to prank. Matt has shit talked Sam's ability on his blog and does not seem to respect him. He seemed to enjoy creating a contrast between his ultra mindful super human consciousness with Sam's incoherent rambling, especially during that gratuitous pee break. Just stomping his way up to be the king of the weebs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:40:40 2018 No.20078081 >>20078067 >and does not seem to respect him nah he's talked about him positively multiple times. he likes him and it's his videos that got him into ajatt. maybe that interview changed his mind since sam was such a jackass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:44:13 2018 No.20078098 In the style of 知らん instead of 知らない, is it possible to say 見ん instead of 見ない？

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:46:51 2018 No.20078117 >>20078047 don"t try to diminish my insights

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:52:12 2018 No.20078142 Even if i cant learn japanese, watching raw anime and VNs is fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:54:27 2018 No.20078157 >>20078098 possible same applies to every verb in -ないform

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:54:28 2018 No.20078158 >>20078142 良い態度だよネ～

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 10:57:57 2018 No.20078171

>>20077946
>because eceleb Tim Rogers says that was how he got fluent
Tim Rogers got fluent by going to Japan and then staying there for 10+ years. Dragon Quest just helped.

Not saying you shouldn't be using it as a resource but don't expect to get good just because you played through one video game

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:01:12 2018 No.20078189 >>20078171 op forgot to use the sarcasm tag

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:07:54 2018 No.20078224 Quick djt where do I get japanese subs for animu

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:11:31 2018 No.20078242 >>20078224 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=japanese+subtitles+for+anime

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:12:38 2018 No.20078255 >>20078224 kitsunekko

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:16:37 2018 No.20078275 >>20078255 Cheers

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:30:58 2018 No.20078348 >>20076533 this dog looks stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:32:25 2018 No.20078359 What is the verdict on anime with j subs

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:37:04 2018 No.20078379 >>20078359 doesn't count as listening practice

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:37:44 2018 No.20078381 >>20078379 This. It makes it too easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:37:55 2018 No.20078382 >>20078359 helps you learn vocab and increases comprehension; will not help you get better at listening which is arguably more important for a beginner

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:45:44 2018 No.20078418 >>20077376 The time it takes to do a card has no impact on optimal settings though, everyone can benefit from this

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:46:46 2018 No.20078425 >>20077649 It's pretty obvious is you've ever read the ajatt site

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:47:34 2018 No.20078430 >>20078382 If you have no vocab, can you truly listen?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:49:49 2018 No.20078445 >>20078032 >Matt is now desperately trying to recoup all that time he spent studying only to realize he has no practical use for Japanese What about the $3k a month he passively makes by knowing it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:53:06 2018 No.20078464 is searching Ankig for words only shit for me? >go to Browse for a deck >look for a query >it's somewhere 3/4 of the way in the list of results Is there a way to make search look only in sort field/question?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:55:01 2018 No.20078478 >>20078359 I'm the anon who originally asked, I only want to use them as a crutch for when I don't know a word/grammar point and can't infer it from the context. So will have them disabled by default and only enable them when needed.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 11:58:51 2018 No.20078493

>>20078430
With enough time, yes.
Your brain is literally built for pattern recognition. If you hear the same sounds in the same contexts multiple times you will intuitively pick up on it and begin to draw conclusions as to its meaning. You can also shortcut this and throw it in a dictionary to lock it in. Do this enough times and you learn Japanese
If you're not yet at a point where you can hear individual sounds at all then you resolve that with more listening.

>>20078478
Just don't rely on them so much you don't even try to listen anymore. Really easy trap to fall into

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 12:06:47 2018 No.20078537 >>20078359 dont think you should even think about it till you watched 10000 hours with english subs or have equivalent experience

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 12:10:25 2018 No.20078556 >>20078464 (fieldnamewithoutparenthesis):(searchtermwithoutparenthesis) *you can also use asterisks here

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 12:24:40 2018 No.20078606

Anki is giving me only Listening cards in my Core 2k deck as new cards. As in, it's skipping the Reading and Production cards (for both words and sentences). If I back out of the session and to the main menu, then start the session again, then it will give me the Reading and Production cards just for the current word, and then go back to skipping them. Any idea how to fix this? They are not being buried.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 12:27:39 2018 No.20078622 File: 100 KB, 1024x658, DMMzEVEUEAEEsT-_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20072007 >分かっておやり >Think about how he feels. i cant find anything about おやり that makes sense to me halp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 12:29:18 2018 No.20078628 >>20078622 try asking on hellotalk? is that the full sentence?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 12:30:49 2018 No.20078633 >>20078606 >Any idea how to fix this? Delete your core deck, it's distracting you from more important things like learning Japanese

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 12:34:28 2018 No.20078648 >>20078622 ておやり→てあげなさい

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:05:20 2018 No.20078794 その瞳に浮かぶのは安堵、ではなく怯えの感情だではなく refers to 怯え? "it was feeling of no fear" something like that? At first I thought ではなく refers to 安堵 turning it into sad sentence

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:06:06 2018 No.20078796 File: 197 KB, 760x1080, complexu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20078556 thanks man, you're gold!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:17:14 2018 No.20078850 >>20078794 Ignore the comma. 安堵ではなく＝安堵じゃない

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:19:47 2018 No.20078866 >>20074508 わぁ~ 妹ちゃん絶対糖尿絶対デブ

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:30:41 2018 No.20078929

>>20075210
SinoAlice is supposedly good. I know someone who's really into it and from what I can see there's a co-op event every day, he spends an hour or two just voice-chatting to other people in his guild before and after on Discord. I tried playing but my Japanese is too shit to even understand the game...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:43:17 2018 No.20079000 >>20076780 plz english

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:45:21 2018 No.20079009

Guys please help me here
When using という to define relative clauses i always see の being added after it,Is it just to make the clause a general noun?

This lesson confused me so much i actually redid all the grammar from the start,and it's helped,but it's still very confusing

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:54:29 2018 No.20079066 File: 21 KB, 746x130, matto.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20077389 seriously? you guys didn't even realize? lol morons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 13:56:26 2018 No.20079076 >>20078425 I've read some of it but none of that matters if one of his friends reveals him to have certain beliefs outside a public website.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 14:00:38 2018 No.20079097 >>20079066 why are you pinging me ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 14:03:10 2018 No.20079107 i've been exposed to という, というのは, ということは (i think is what it was), etc. and i still forget what the fuck they do every time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 14:11:43 2018 No.20079147 fuck you guys t. me

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 14:17:38 2018 No.20079177 >>20079147 no fuck you leather man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 14:42:53 2018 No.20079308 >>20078359 In my personal experience it's a good way to improve listening. I've done almost all my listening with accompanying text. There are some studies that indicate that it's not any worse, at least.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:23:56 2018 No.20079481 File: 28 KB, 477x155, Screenshot_2018-10-16 How to Improve Your Japanese Speaking Skills JapanesePod101(2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the fuck does this mean? They are giving out advice to improve speaking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:25:44 2018 No.20079490 >>20079481 don't read directly [from your slides/notes], try to use an outline

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:30:03 2018 No.20079506 >>20079490 >don't read directly [from your slides/notes], try to use an outline Yeah I have no idea what that's suppose to mean, ESL here sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:35:25 2018 No.20079528 File: 93 KB, 772x525, 1517217617159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20079506 You have to learn English before you can learn Japanese

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:35:55 2018 No.20079536

>>20079506
Oh!

Often people make a slideshow (using PowerPoint or something) for their presentation, and then when they present it in front of an audience, they just read what is on the screen. Or, someone might right out their presentation like an essay, and just read off of the paper. An outline would be something like a brief list of bullet points that the speaker could use to remind them what to say instead. For example, an outline might look like this:

- project deadline postponed
- funding opportunities have been contacted
- initial research has begun

And then the speaker might talk about those three points. They might have this list of points (outline) on a note card or two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:38:46 2018 No.20079551 /daily business presentation thread/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:39:34 2018 No.20079556 >>20079551 what is learning japanese if not learning to do business presentations

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:47:53 2018 No.20079603

>>20079536
Thanks! I figured it out after thinking about it for I while just before your post.

I used to do that when talking with a jap friend over skype, writing down some phrases about topics I wanted to talk about and then repeating them while talking to him, I guess that was bad? I used to do it mostly to don't stop in the middle of a sentence in case I didn't know a word or a conjugation and bore him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:48:09 2018 No.20079605 >>20079066 what does he mean by this? i don't want to watch the video

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:53:56 2018 No.20079628 >>20079603 No, that's not bad. What's bad is when your slideshow has a huge paragraph on it and you spend 5 minutes just reading a huge paragraph off of a screen. I wouldn't worry about your conversations with your friend.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 15:55:19 2018 No.20079634 >>20079605 apparently matts turned to some attempt at comedy but hes even less cut out for that than teaching how to learn japanese

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 15:57:40 2018 No.20079651 >>20079628 back in school my mate used to memorize those huge fucking paragraphs and recite them word for word without looking at the screen it was pretty impressive actually

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:18:59 2018 No.20079741 >>20073648 every 4 hours you should upload a page of genki for us to do

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:25:30 2018 No.20079766 >>20079741 Genki isn't doing

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 16:25:58 2018 No.20079769 >>20073648 lol minna genki?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:32:16 2018 No.20079787 >>20073648 >壊す Is this supposed to be a basic word? I came across it many times but never remembered it.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 16:36:17 2018 No.20079797 >>20079787 you should know it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:36:53 2018 No.20079801 >>20079787 >basic word >came across it many times You answered your own question.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:38:55 2018 No.20079814 >>20079787 i came across it when some dumbass statue broke in some shit ass vn but i forgot it until you highlighted it here

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:39:01 2018 No.20079815 私はね男に食べられたい一口で胃にたどり着くそしてその狭くて暗くて臭い所で栄養になりたくて死ぬ

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:43:48 2018 No.20079836 >>20079787 you should also know 滅ぼす

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:45:36 2018 No.20079841 I switched from rap to this while reading nihongo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:49:06 2018 No.20079859 >>20079814 you have my utmost 全く

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 16:49:11 2018 No.20079861 >>20079814 geyline guy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:50:40 2018 No.20079868 >>20079815 本当にくそ投稿だらけ今日はね

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:51:03 2018 No.20079870 File: 99 KB, 629x660, 1539477327894.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think crypto currency might be back in town.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 16:58:36 2018 No.20079899 I have to add 左右 to anki or else I will never remember the reading of it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:01:36 2018 No.20079909 >>20079899 You'll remember it eventually if you just keep reading. I had a lot of trouble with that one too,

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 17:01:45 2018 No.20079910 a better way is to just write it 100 times while saying syllables really stretched out so it covers the duration of writing each corresponding kanji

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:03:33 2018 No.20079920 >>20079899 And then there is 右折 :) Learning 左右 is good for the name the first kanji in 佐藤 though

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:04:39 2018 No.20079926 >>20079868 そういえばちなみにくそになりたい

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:05:51 2018 No.20079930 shitposts for hours on end about how much i hate my reading material ignore everyone elses suggestions to read something else and continues to shitpost

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 17:09:08 2018 No.20079943 gambare geyline guy!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:09:54 2018 No.20079944 >>20079926 貴様はもうくそなのに

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:13:14 2018 No.20079952 File: 116 KB, 1280x720, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] today will be the day i learn nihongo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:20:04 2018 No.20079984 >>20078224 hope that they are already in the video file

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:20:29 2018 No.20079986 Has anyone had experience with italki? I was thinking of using it but it's a lot of money to have someone just read genki to me (which seems like that's what might happen).

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:21:04 2018 No.20079989 >>20078430 thats deep

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:25:42 2018 No.20079997 >>20079930 reading something else won't change anything because it's the futility of understanding anything that is the problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:27:28 2018 No.20080008 >>20079986 Do you feel like you have trouble finding the answers to your questions? Generally jisho and hjgp is enough for me to understand stuff I don't know

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:29:06 2018 No.20080016 >>20079930 recognize a problem that can be easily fixed shitlost about it instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:31:10 2018 No.20080021 File: 142 KB, 862x1000, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20072405

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:34:08 2018 No.20080031 >>20080008 I'm a jackass so if I pay money it's more likely I'll keep up with something. Granted I already pay for wanikani and barely use that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:36:41 2018 No.20080038 Probably the wrong thread to ask, but is there any decent Japanese pop music left? The 10s have been garbage. Fuck Johnny's. Fuck AKB.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:37:05 2018 No.20080039 >>20079944 >貴様はもうくそそんなケンシロっぽい台詞というとは。。。ちなみにケンシロにたべられるのもいいと思います

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 2018 No.20080043 >>20080038 times have changed dude everythings aids

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:39:09 2018 No.20080048 >>20080031 nihingo is a way of life. after playing that first game or reading something in japanese you'll keep using it because it's fun

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:40:16 2018 No.20080054 >>20080048 I do have a few manga I got for the mini-figs maybe I should just sit down with those an hour each day.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:41:26 2018 No.20080058
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>>20078418
Giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that his settings are actually optimal, which is highly doubtful considering his track record, they will provide much more negligible gains in terms of saving time for someone who spends 3 seconds per card instead of 20 seconds.

By having only 3 fewer cards to review, someone who spends 20 seconds per card can reduce their rep time by 1 minute. For someone who spends 3 seconds per card however, their reviews would have to be reduced by 20 to make that same (ultimately insignificant) saving. 100 fewer reviews for a 20spc individual = 33 minute saving, for a 3spc individual = 5 minute saving.

Only reason Matt and his followers care about Anki optimisation so much is because their sentence mining method itself is extremely time inefficient, but they can't admit that and want to put the blame on Anki not being "optimal" instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:41:45 2018 No.20080060 >>20080038 i only listen to 大森靖子 and also my guilty pleasure which is formulaic corporate anime music made for gacha games

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:42:48 2018 No.20080065

>>20080031
That's some stupid logic like those new year resolution fags who pay and sign up for a gym yet quit after a month. "The high price will make me keep going!"

If you're consuming compelling content you're even less likely to quit.

y'know, since it's compelling and all. It becomes something to look forward to.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 17:43:59 2018 No.20080069 >>20080031 lol kids gonna end up broke in a gutter with a syringe sticking out of one arm holding a hand full of flash cards

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:44:02 2018 No.20080070 >>20080065 Yeah it is bad logic. I can probably benefit from an instructor but not until I've strengthened my resolve more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:45:04 2018 No.20080072 >>20080069 they cut my nihongo with fentanyl and now I'm dead

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:45:20 2018 No.20080073 >>20080058 What is this fucker up to these days, I saw that he had streamed on twitch or utube few times during 2017 I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:48:23 2018 No.20080085 It's thanks to namasensei that I started learning japanese. He gave me the idea it was possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:49:14 2018 No.20080089 >>20080054 Just remember manga isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:51:14 2018 No.20080092 >>20080060 Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe a little too squeaky, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:51:52 2018 No.20080095 I have to make sure that when I fap I at least do it while to eroge

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:53:05 2018 No.20080104 >>20080054 i would. once you're used to it you'll start to forget about the hour minimum rule and just keep going to know what happens next

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:55:32 2018 No.20080111 why do you guys lie to beginners so much about how much they'll love reading?

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 17:56:22 2018 No.20080114 >>20080095 i cna only get half a boner to top tier dark nuki

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:56:41 2018 No.20080117 >>20080069 imagine how embarrassed the parents would be to have to tell people their kid was learning japanese

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:57:41 2018 No.20080120 >>20080114 I just fap with a flat dick, eventually it will siffen

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:58:26 2018 No.20080124 >>20080089 and shitting isn't immersing

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:58:52 2018 No.20080127 >>20080111 as opposed to doing textbook exercises and anki grinding? reading is actually fun.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 17:59:01 2018 No.20080128 >>20080111 if u dont like reading in your native language its not gonna magically change with japanese trust me i dont read shit besides general internet and hentai games w. the occasional epic manga sprinkled in

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 17:59:53 2018 No.20080132 >>20080128 manga is not reading

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 18:00:44 2018 No.20080137 >>20080132 im gonna read it sometimes and u cant stop me

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:02:10 2018 No.20080140 >>20080111 idk about you but one of my greatest memories was struggling to play a jrpg. it was painfully slow, but still fun

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:02:38 2018 No.20080142

>>20080127
yea that's what sorta confuses me. i actually prefer doing anki but i intentionally limit the new cards i do so that my reviews will take roughly an hour. when i finish reading and listening i'll go back and do some excess reviews if i didn't get them all done. but yea, anki is way better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:03:12 2018 No.20080146 >>20080127 I like textbook exercises but I also realize that they won't teach me japanese, so I just stick to the LNs. Practice exercise for the N tests could help me pass them though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:04:14 2018 No.20080151 >>20080142 >>20080146 what the fuck is wrong with you people. >Practice exercise for the N tests could help me pass them though. The only one worth doing is N1.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 18:04:54 2018 No.20080154 >>20080140 much win in this post

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:05:49 2018 No.20080159 >>20080151 >N1 That's the one I meant. Still just for a bit, you know - to get a hold of the structure of the questions.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:06:47 2018 No.20080166

>>20080151
fuck is wrong with you? not comprehending a text is a much worse experience than getting anki reviews done. the only reason a beginner should read is that this is allegedly the fastest way for them to learn. the better you are the more you'll comprehend so the more you'll enjoy reading and listening. but before that it's fucking hell and it's definitely not more fun than anki.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:10:37 2018 No.20080180 >>20080166 >not comprehending a text there's your problem, you're supposed to use your noggin a little harder so that reading = comprehending a text but that aside anki is still rock bottom when it comes to fun so i don't get your point of view

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:11:33 2018 No.20080185 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtYweFDmVCg Is your kana reading speed fast enough to keep up?

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 18:17:05 2018 No.20080209 >>20080185 you cant do that flashtards are gonna cry

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:28:19 2018 No.20080247 >enjoying droning anki 変質者 in this thread scare me sometimes

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:31:31 2018 No.20080264 ～ありがとうございません～

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:33:39 2018 No.20080271 >>20080264 あざせん?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:35:07 2018 No.20080280 how much time do you realistically put into watching stuff each day without getting bored n tired? I can watch ~2 hours of idol shows + anime movie, so I guess my upper limit would be 3,5-4 hours of content

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:36:23 2018 No.20080286 >>20080280 easily all day, just need something interesting

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:37:48 2018 No.20080291

>>20080286
It's not that I'm getting tired of the content, but just of the action of watching something. But I guess if something was VERY immersive I could go through a whole series in one day, but that'd be once in a blue moon, definitely not something I could do every single day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:38:11 2018 No.20080294 >>20080128 You say that as if erotic games aren't at the forefront of contemporary literature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:38:12 2018 No.20080295 >>20080280 I read for 2 minutes to switch to 5 other things then after 10 minutes I come back and get 2-5 minutes again This happens everyday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:39:34 2018 No.20080297 ^ classic case of internet aids here

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:39:37 2018 No.20080298 >>20080280 If I'm watching a really good anime there's no limit For only decent to good anime it's around 8 hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:40:00 2018 No.20080303 >>20080280 instantly bored of it all but i force myself to watch 2 hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:42:08 2018 No.20080315 >>20080286 >>20080298 don't you think that nobody can focus for 10+ hours on what they are watching? like up to some point there's indeed a benefit, but then it's slowly diminishing with time

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:44:32 2018 No.20080324

>>20080315
I've definitely spent 10 hours doing nothing but watching cartoons.

You're probably right in the sense you need to eat and sleep and move around a bit to keep your brain from going into battery saving mode but if something is immersive enough I can easily spend all my free time on it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:44:35 2018 No.20080326 >>20080315 What kinda weak mind do you have that you can't even watch anime all day?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:48:42 2018 No.20080338 >>20080058 Actually you'll have like 50 fewer reviews per day, but keep attacking something you're completely ignorant of

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:53:27 2018 No.20080355 >>20080303 what are you interested in Japan-wise?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:58:15 2018 No.20080369 >>20080355 anime, manga, VNs. i look forward to some of their dopey live action stuff too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 18:59:33 2018 No.20080376 >>20080247 Life is whatever you talk yourself into.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:03:44 2018 No.20080386 >>20080369 then why do you get bored after just 2 hours of anime if you're interested in it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:04:33 2018 No.20080391 >>20080386 because it's a bunch of gibberish?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:05:35 2018 No.20080396 >>20080391 oh and you misunderstood. it doesn't take 2 hours for me to get bored. i instantly get bored of it. the first 10 seconds into my viewing i want to quit. i force myself to watch 2 hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:06:50 2018 No.20080402 >>20080396 I get it that it's gibberish that's hard to listen to and get interested in, but you should at least be interested in the facade of things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:07:58 2018 No.20080408 1) what's the Internet Movie Database (IMDB) of Japan? I want to research some of their more obscure titles 2) where do I get documentaries in Japanese from

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:09:05 2018 No.20080413 >>20080408 tsutaya

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:10:36 2018 No.20080419

>>20080280
LN: exhaustion after one hour
VN: can last 2 to 4 depending on how engaging it is
Jrpg: indefinitely, but thats because it's my favorite and generally much easier to understand whats going on
As i get better i expect to be able to hold out longer on all of these but reading is in fact a physical activity that will tire you out, even in english.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:10:37 2018 No.20080420

>>20080391
You don't know Japanese. You cannot enjoy a Japanese show for its story. Stop trying to. You need to find joy in the process. Treat learning new words and grammar points like a game. Try consuming easier media to increase the frequency of this. This stage only lasts about 3 months and then you will need to actually be interested in the story to get enjoyment.

Remember, having fun is the #1 way to learn a language

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:12:32 2018 No.20080427

>>20080420
that's exactly what i do and it's why i've been able to keep it up for this short while. i like comprehending a sentence i wouldn't have been able to a week ago. but stop pretending that the points game is OH SO AMAZING FUN. god i see so much fucking self delusion in learning communities like this. reminds me of the AJATT cultists trying to hype each other up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:14:12 2018 No.20080434 >>20080427 not that anon but the excitement of being able to understand increasingly difficult material easily outweighs any and all frustrations for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:15:06 2018 No.20080437 jeez just watch english subbed anime for 10000 hours then and after that youll be able to watch raw anime for fun

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:16:55 2018 No.20080446 >>20080434 i should probably try reading nhk easy articles to see if i get a high out of their being easier than VNs.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:18:07 2018 No.20080452

>>20080338
>>20080058
Wouldn't it all be percentage based anyway? Like, it doesn't matter if you take 3 seconds or 20 seconds, if you can cut your reps in Anki down by 25% then you can use that time to do more cards. If that 25% happens to only be two minutes because you do 3 second reps then you'll be able to fit in an extra 40 reps in the same amount of time to learn more new cards per day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:23:03 2018 No.20080466 >>20080408 myanimelist

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:23:50 2018 No.20080470 When listening to news podcasts, how do you ＊hear＊ the kanji used in the long compound words?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:25:47 2018 No.20080474 >>20080470 What kind of answer are you expecting here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:26:09 2018 No.20080477 if you slow down a nip's speech enough you can hear the stroke order

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:27:20 2018 No.20080481 File: 361 KB, 700x525, onibaba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20080477 you guys are hilarious

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:27:41 2018 No.20080482 >>20080477 lol you guys are pretty funny sometimes

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:36:20 2018 No.20080502 File: 26 KB, 283x314, sakurako2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20080452 Imagine how fast you would learn Japanese if you did nothing but anki cards all day.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 19:47:56 2018 No.20080538

Tried out passive listening while entering documents for about 4 hours. I could only pick out a few words and a few noun-particle-verb combinations but couldn't tell what was being said. Neat experience because I haven't really tried any sort of listening discounting subbed anime

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:05:24 2018 No.20080592 I'm just reading the mind illuminated because matt said so I have no idea what I'm doing and I have no structure to this

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:06:09 2018 No.20080597 Thinking about pitch accent really makes me want to switch to learning korean instead. how the fuck do you learn pitch accent

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:07:05 2018 No.20080603 use your ears to hear the pitch, done

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 20:14:50 2018 No.20080634 >>20080597 heres how to learn pitch accent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdBX_cqtAs

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:22:33 2018 No.20080668 which anki deck is everybody using?

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 20:24:02 2018 No.20080681 File: 94 KB, 1280x720, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this one

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:24:48 2018 No.20080686 I wont learn pitch accent like some weeb retard, I will learn competent Japanese and maybe pick the accent but Im not going to specifically study it like some fucking cuckold no sweat

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 20:25:54 2018 No.20080692 learn japanese first then clean it up later if necessary

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:32:37 2018 No.20080714 >>20080692 inneficiency for impatient people, I'd rather do things the right way

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:34:09 2018 No.20080717 File: 70 KB, 1280x720, 1539628527496.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] weeb insecure about his ability in a language he doesn't even know yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:34:56 2018 No.20080723 >>20080668 rtk, VNcore, Tae Kim, then full immersion

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 20:36:52 2018 No.20080734 >>20080714 even many japanese people could stand to clean up their diction a little bit but by all means keep chasing your tail in search of that ever elusive right way

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:48:20 2018 No.20080777 Do you guys ever wonder if anki haters are right?

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 20:52:14 2018 No.20080792 flashtard or not a flashtard doesnt fully determine really anything but the pushes up glasses deck snorts is stacked against you

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:53:12 2018 No.20080797 >>20080723 can you be more specific? most of those don't bring up anything when searching the jap shared deck list

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:54:14 2018 No.20080801 >>20080797 want us to study them for you also? wouldn't want you to do any actual mental work after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:55:05 2018 No.20080805 I don't understand how so many people come in here asking about vncore specifically. The CoR is right there. And newfriends don't usually bother me but it happens almost every other thread now which is strange.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:58:31 2018 No.20080811 >>20080777 Both sides are right. I get huge gains from reading and anki too. The fools are the ones who don't do either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 20:59:34 2018 No.20080816 >>20080797 go to op's link and it's all in there

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:03:30 2018 No.20080835 File: 2 KB, 163x118, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus christ, have mercy. Did someone have a seizure when creating this kanji?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:04:31 2018 No.20080839 >>20080835 秘密？なに

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:05:23 2018 No.20080842 >>20080835 t. didn't do rtk

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:07:00 2018 No.20080851 >>20080835 學、鬱、嚏、there are worse beasts out there young one

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:09:39 2018 No.20080860 >>20080851 Let me feel the pain one step at a time, please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:10:11 2018 No.20080864 >>20080851 all of these are a joke after doing rtk

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:11:48 2018 No.20080871 >>20080864 Alright maybe the first two are, but >嚏 I doubt you have seen this kanji before and I'm sure you didn't guess the reading + meaning from looking at it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:13:17 2018 No.20080878 >>20080871 i haven't but the power of RTK is that you can easily make mnemonics for any kanji.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:14:34 2018 No.20080882 >>20080871 Because nobody uses that. Sneeze is written in kana alone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:15:28 2018 No.20080889 Step aside rtkfags 龜

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:16:32 2018 No.20080893 鬮 big dick kanji coming through

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:17:50 2018 No.20080901 >>20080864 THIS, only redditors find everyday-use kanji difficult, kanji that are as complex as 'gloom' in terms of complexity - there's maybe 3 or 4 of them in the whole RTK 1 + 3

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:18:53 2018 No.20080906

>>20080597
>>20080603
hello friendly reminder that if you care enough about pitch accent that it worries you in your studies, you are probably looking for the /int/ thread which is based more around interaction with foreigners rather than the otaku media that this /jp/ thread is interested in!!! hope this clears things up for you =^_^=

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:20:43 2018 No.20080917 >>20080835 i love himitsu because you got a big ol heart with a slash through it on the left, and then on the right it's another big ol heart w/ a slash through it except it's in a neat little ornamental box thing. really makes you think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:21:14 2018 No.20080921 File: 222 KB, 262x310, zzzz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20080906 right on brother in NEETdom!

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 21:21:43 2018 No.20080926 >>20080906 epic retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:22:54 2018 No.20080933 >>20080917 If I thought more like you I might have an easier time retaining kanji.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:23:51 2018 No.20080934

already came up with mnemonics for it.
>sub component that looks like bound up dick and balls = chastity belt with semen dropping out (to help remember the rightward curve).
>sub component with the little stars that look like rudders = turbine engine (for some weird plane or rocket ship or something). the x is the window.
picture a balding ajatter with piss jugs in a chastity belt tethered to the outside of a rocketship in space.

now i'm not going to recall it because these are pointless kanji, but god DAMN has rtk equipped me to easily use mnemonics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:25:40 2018 No.20080944 >>20080934 meant for >>20080889 also not stars, but pitchforks. turbines or rocket thrusts. oh well, works either way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:27:42 2018 No.20080957 Have it crash land on a planet full of giant turtles to tie it back to its meaning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:29:06 2018 No.20080968 >>20080926 not that guy but what does learning pitch accent teach me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:35:59 2018 No.20080999 Why learn "pitch accent" of a monotone language?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:37:20 2018 No.20081006 File: 69 KB, 1170x292, ajatt isn't forever.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why? Why not? Do you not want to know what it's like to give it your all you lazy piece of shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:39:55 2018 No.20081018 >>20081006 i feel like if i develop proper pitch accent i'll be losing a part of my gaikokujin charm that will make them like me

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 21:39:58 2018 No.20081019 >>20080968 how to flow properly but dont worry about "learning pitch accent"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:41:04 2018 No.20081026 so is heisig's "I played baseball with children" the 70's version of "watch 10,000 hours of anime"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:41:37 2018 No.20081029 >>20081018 Do you like slimy mexicans that speak broken english in a heavy mexican accent? No, of course you don't. I'm sure your american accent sounds the same to japanese.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 21:42:25 2018 No.20081032 >>20081029 haha "you have to go back"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:43:09 2018 No.20081037 >>20080968 it let's you notice what has always been there. when you're aware of something, you start noticing it everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:44:05 2018 No.20081044 >>20081018 Your pitch accent will never be perfect so you don't have to worry about that. It'll just be better than it would have been.

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:48:14 2018 No.20081067

>>20081029
>xD GUYS I'M FROM /pol/!!!!!! DID YOU NOTICE XD
if they have broken english that means they're only here out of necessity, and that's not going to be me with japanese. plenty of mexicans speak decent english, and their accents don't bother me, i find them appealing. your dumb biases aren't entertaining anyone, so keep them to yourself dumbo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:51:21 2018 No.20081085 >>20081067 That post had nothing to do with politics but it's always nice to see a triggered snowflake. The fact is heavy accents are unappealing in most cases, it doesn't add "charm".

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:52:22 2018 No.20081092 Dogen san said studying pitch accent just 2 hours per day for 2 years will have you sounding like a native. He suggests studying it from the start as to not develope bad habits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:52:41 2018 No.20081094 >>20081067 jesus there's nothing wrong with hating dirty brown accents. get over yourself.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 21:52:44 2018 No.20081095 >>20081085 much like your posting

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:53:43 2018 No.20081102 >>20081092 wow just a mere 2 hours a day

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:54:56 2018 No.20081110 nobody is talking to you jamal

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 21:56:07 2018 No.20081117 >>20081092 dogens rehearsed bullshit falls completely apart in the unscripted he sounds just like every other decent foreigner >>20081110 thanks for the heads up ps nice self own

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:56:24 2018 No.20081120 >>20081085 >falls back immediately on le triggered snowflake xD response now THIS is stupid. and calling someone a poltard is short for letting them know that they have dumb, uninteresting, racist opinions but at lightning speed

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:56:26 2018 No.20081121 >>20081102 Just copy from movies and shows you're already watching. Pause them and repeat there lines, repeat words on yomichan, etc. 2 hours is really not that much when you break it up over the day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:58:05 2018 No.20081129 >>20081120 Nothing racist about my post, unless you are seriously assmad over the use of "slimy". In that case, grow up. And if you aren't mexican and you're being upset FOR mexicans, then literally go fuck yourself because you're embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:59:29 2018 No.20081135 >>20081120 back to /r/linguistics

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 21:59:35 2018 No.20081136 >>20081117 Spoiler/ everything on youtube is rehersed. Dogen isn't perfect but he's one of the best. Him and matt are probably the two best speakers on YT who also semi-teach.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 22:00:12 2018 No.20081138 >>20081136 dont put matt and dogen in the same conversation its misleading

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:02:16 2018 No.20081149 >my obscure youtube faggot is better than your obscure youtube faggot Is that really what has become of DJT? We can do better than this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:03:31 2018 No.20081157 >>20081138 I would love to see them battle it out though. They both have rediculous vocabularly skills and pitch accents.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:05:07 2018 No.20081162 >>20081138 Exactly, Dogen actually teaches.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 22:06:22 2018 No.20081167 >>20081136 i mean any communication you do on the internet that isnt real time is fake and gay if we wanna go there reason why it matters is being scripted while trying to teach someone language skills is not what u want

yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 22:07:54 2018 No.20081180

>>20081162
cant confirm or deny since all that gets posted here is matt vids

all i know thru my limited exposure is he talks like an anime character with good enunciation and is prolly a sex tourist i mean just look at the guy hes got some fucked up shit goin on for sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:12:32 2018 No.20081217 >>20081180 >sex tourist He's married and has lived in japan for over 10 years. He sounds more like a samurai or radio announcer than an anime character. I mean I like him staying underground but he's legit.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 22:15:07 2018 No.20081225 its always the married guys that do the fucked up shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:24:40 2018 No.20081289 How will you eceleb worshippers live now that youtube is dead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:27:43 2018 No.20081310 File: 112 KB, 1062x503, prep.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol bruh I already prepared for this situation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:28:33 2018 No.20081316 >>20081289 nuke got banned for youtube and now he's livestreaming on twitch. wonder how long that'll last.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 22:31:48 2018 No.20081343 >>20081310 lol thats some aids >>20081316 what could nuke chan have possibly done to get in trouble on the tubes

Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:47:19 2018 No.20081445

There is something beautiful about language learning, man. You are showing a genuine interest in someone else’s language and culture. And there are also people interested in your own language and culture. When I see people from from totally different cultural backgrounds get along, it really shows that we humans are all connected in some time of way and it warms my heart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:51:13 2018 No.20081463 >>20081445 wow thats powerful press like if you think its powerful too!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 22:58:14 2018 No.20081507 わたしはゲイです。

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 23:12:06 2018 No.20081575 わたしはレズですわ

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Tue Oct 16 23:16:45 2018 No.20081601 わたしはこれで

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 23:21:02 2018 No.20081634 ご注文は以上でよろしいでしょうか

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 23:28:20 2018 No.20081675 >>20080835 秘密蜂蜜秘伝

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 16 23:54:02 2018 No.20081779 >>20081006 How do you AJATT if you have a job?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 00:11:46 2018 No.20081846 >>20081779 You have to quit your job and start doing laundry in the kitchen sink

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 00:13:11 2018 No.20081854 >>20081779 I listen to Japanese at work, and outside of work pretty much all I do is Japanese since I don't have friends or hobbies and my wife likes to stay at home anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 00:32:41 2018 No.20081929 >>20081779 earphones with a recently watched playlist of ripped audio work wonders.

Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:03:10 2018 No.20082043

>>20080338
>Actually you'll have like 50 fewer reviews per day
Wow, a saving of a whole 2 and a half minutes for anyone sane (assuming Matt's copypasted math from Wikipedia actually holds up for more than 24 hours this time). Certainly worth sitting through the inevitable hour long explanation video to learn about this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:26:03 2018 No.20082116 please click like

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:28:22 2018 No.20082124 wtf happened to the thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:28:32 2018 No.20082125 >game uses 脚 instead of 足 annnd dropped. so pretentious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:31:47 2018 No.20082135 File: 34 KB, 610x400, persimmon-nutrition.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] おはようおにいちゃんかきたべた？

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:33:19 2018 No.20082140 i just had the best idea. japanese subs on dubbed anime

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:38:05 2018 No.20082152 File: 311 KB, 708x483, daily.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yoshi time for reading

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:39:09 2018 No.20082154 >download a vn >voice actors speak in a fictional language

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:42:21 2018 No.20082162 >tfw someone walks in on you studying japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:42:52 2018 No.20082163 >>20082135 I just ate a bunch at work yesterday yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:43:04 2018 No.20082164 >ya winning, son?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:43:22 2018 No.20082169 deletes your anki deck

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:45:59 2018 No.20082176 >初歩的 >basic

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 01:46:05 2018 No.20082177 >>20082164 >how's the Chinese coming along? >that's good have you started looking for a job yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:08:15 2018 No.20082271 >>20082163 となりのきゃくはよくかきくうきゃくだ

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:19:49 2018 No.20082310 huh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:39:04 2018 No.20082373 im probably not even on top of mount stupid yet but i can physically feel myself becoming better at japanese the more i read it

Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:41:28 2018 No.20082384

Can someone clarify the use of the second の for me?

「自分のしたことのあるアルバイトについて・・・を書きなさい。」

I know it's asking me to write about some part-time job I've done before.

Why is it 「の」instead of「が」?
I assume because「自分のしたことがあるアルバイト」would translate to "A part-time job that's done itself"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:42:14 2018 No.20082391 Someone recommend me something to read that is mostly text thats like N2-ish level.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:43:51 2018 No.20082399 >>20082391 I recommend you read something compelling

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:50:34 2018 No.20082416 >>20082391 装甲悪鬼村正神咒神威神楽信天翁航海録紅殻町博物誌霞外籠逗留記花散峪山人考

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 02:59:03 2018 No.20082429 >>20082384 No, が would mean the same thing there, の is just used both times because it is clearer and more natural in a subordinate clause like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:00:38 2018 No.20082432 File: 75 KB, 800x570, 15432543244352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >咒

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:04:46 2018 No.20082446 File: 45 KB, 284x421, 1523173025430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20082432 Thank you I will never forget that now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:06:46 2018 No.20082449 >>20082432 Holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:14:22 2018 No.20082468 >>20082429 Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:17:59 2018 No.20082479 >>20081343 Our big copyright fighter streamed stolen movies online on youtube and thought it was okay because it's "for educational reasons". His videos got banned and he was forbidden to stream for at least three months. Oh the irony.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:19:31 2018 No.20082489 File: 137 KB, 450x512, 601034893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20082432 どっからそんなネタしいれてきたのちょっとはらたつ

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 17 03:42:14 2018 No.20082583 >>20082432 安

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