/sbg/ - Shinza Banshou and light general

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A thread for the discussion of Dies irae, Kajiri Kamui Kagura, Pantheon and other associated titles belonging to the Shinza Banshou setting, written by Takashi Masada or published by light.

>light's official site
http://www.light.gr.jp/

>News
Dies irae for Switch - 3 days left : http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/diesirae_switch/special/scenario.html
New PV : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgRLwVYd6QM
Some HQ phone wallpapers: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/event/c1_2018oct/index.html
Dies irae's anime OST: https://nyaa.si/view/1077467


>Dies irae
Getting Started: https://pastebin.com/03KfVLZZ
Official Website: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_portal/
VNDB: https://vndb.org/v548
Interview with Kaziklu Bey: https://vndb.org/v18685
Steam Page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/644540/Dies_irae_Amantes_amentes/ (>buying from steam)
Mangagamer: https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1041 (>buying from mangagamer)
Other Resources: https://pastebin.com/gRXDtx6F

>Dies irae Pantheon
Official Website: http://dies-p.net/index.html
Website Translation: https://pastebin.com/g7rbqkTM

>Kajiri Kamui Kagura
Official website: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/kajirikamuikagura/index.html
VNDB: https://vndb.org/v5844
Torrent: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/287261

>Other light titles
Senshinkan: https://vndb.org/v12455
Senshinkan Torrent: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/392420
Paradise Lost: https://vndb.org/v1951
PL Torrent: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/42787

Previous: >>20052255

[Anonymous No.]

Rusalka love!

[Anonymous No.]

First for Nee-san

Masada's tweet translated by Zack
"Even Hajun had believers, a sect that idolized him, but the Truth seriously had no followers or adherents. The people of the first Throne, be they good or evil, were all fanatics of the Remorseless"
Now, his translation of Mithra's countdown speech:
"Introductions are in order, first.
I am known as the Truth - Mithra.
It was I who gathered the others here, and it is also I who will command them.
My acquaintances say that I'm not one to be a leader, and I tend to agree...
But I have no intention of relinquishing this delectable position to anyone else.
I mean, isn't it wonderful? So many fine men are gathered in one place.
And this position allows me to toy with them freely... I almost wonder if I'm worthy of this much luck.
I've loved the Remorseless for ages now. His murderous impulses make my heart beat excitedly like a drum.
The Morning Star's straight-laced seriousness makes me want to tease him so much,
and the Mercury's perverted nature is ever so exciting.
The Gold's fervency and masculinity are truly to my tastes,
and the Moment's strict and earnest nature is simply too adorable.
And Hajun... His problematic nature tickles my maternal instincts.
So with this being the case, I wish to make all these men my own.
Or rather, that is fully my intent.
All men are meant to fall in love with me. In which case, nothing's wrong here, no?"

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Man, what's the deal with Kriemhild on Senshinkan again? She looks cute.
>tfw DEKINAI

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I want to fuck Kei!

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>>20068500
Is this Reinhard's sister?

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>>20068519

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>>20068526

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>DAMAGE CONTROL

So, how come Naraka still has feelings for Mithra when she acts like this? For now, I assume it's either not her original personality (it might have been distorted by the Throne, Fanatiker's lyrics even allude to it) or just one side of it (her being the goddess of Dualism, she might easily have another personality which is closer to her cold looks from Kajiri and the like). Either way, Naraka's goal might be to bring her original self back and reunite with her.

It might also be that she really fucking loves gods because they are basically aspects of Naraka (=the Throne).

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>>20068553
Big Snek is old and busted. He no longer has the right to stand in the presence of grand cuck Naraka.

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>>20068526
Interesting

This is a new kind of pain in the ass that Ren has never dealt with. Wonder how he'll react.

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>>20068568
It's basically Rusalka squared.

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>>20068541
I think he had a brother but no sisters.

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>>20068568
>Doting, lewd big sister character vs tsundere Ren

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>>20068568
>he
I'm more interested in how Marie will react. No cheating, remember?

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>>20068568
>Ren
>>20068526
>and the Mercury's perverted nature is ever so exciting.
She even loves Mercurius. How would he react to that, when he lives to make everyone hate him?

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>>20068591
Boring, Marie can't hate anyone by nature and is already destined to be a cuck (see Rea). She'd probably think of Mithra and as unlikely love rival/weirdo.

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>>20068526
Gotta love how everyone recognizes Snek as a fucking perverted weirdo

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https://feen.us/skz8euv6j0lif7h8r8x3gm6j41xf51f1z7faeta63en6eqmtoo.mp3

I have no clue why I haven't posted this before but here you go.

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>Mithra is in charge of the Pantheon gacha because she's gotta catch'em all

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>>20068526
>>20068568
Don't forget she's yandere. Dual personality.

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>>20068606
By this point, I'm surprised that Snek doesn't carry around a Marie body pillow.

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>Everyone thought the protagonist was the one trying to fuck everyone
>It's actually Mithra, who is also the leader.
Masada sure loves subverting tropes.

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>>20068593
>How would he react to that
>Not Marie
He says no to the thot. Reinhard would be down though.

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>>20068583
I've seen that before.

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>>20068557
https://www10.atwiki.jp/god14/pages/384.html
Because he finds her cute and stupid.

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>>20068642
What's the name of this series? It's brought up fucking everywhere

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>>20068657
Boku no Pico

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>>20068526
Muzan literally used "Begone Thot!" as his final attack to dethrone Mithra.

Where the fuck are the edits?

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>>20060641
small thing I noticed I'd thought I'd point out if you're still around
If you look in the linked pic >>20065350, Ryuumeis art, you can see Ren in his Rea's route form but he has the black/red eyes like Yato, guess they changed it

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>>20068663
Perhaps in 2011, this might have been an effective tactic.

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>>20068631
>Do you want to know why fuck? The normal way is too slow. You can't savor all the... little emotions. In... you see, in their most intimate moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I know your boyfriends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them said my name as we climaxed?

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If you feel sorry for Naraka, imagine how it feels like to be Habaki.
>be one of the original gods of Amaterasu
>this cool beautiful onee-san is all over your Sohayamaru
>your wife doesn't let you go to the big god get-together
>sends your daughter (who was probably born asexually) instead
Can't the poor guy just get some nukinukipon?

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>>20068642
Chadnobu and his yokai harem

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>>20068657
Ghost in the Shell

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>>20068657
Rosario + Vampire

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>>20068675
Naraka official art when? I want to make a JUST edit.

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>>20068675
>meanwhile Marie is crying in the corner

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>>20068526
>>20068675

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Imagine if Mithra's second personality is crazy lesbian

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>>20068730
Gays not welcome

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Only a few days left to speculate. Who is she going to be?

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>>20068526
She's basically Masadaverse's Medb

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>>20068749
>licking her lips
>dressed like a slut
>is seen talking to a shota
It's Mithra.

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>>20068749
My wife

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>>20068640
I like to think Mithra would misunderstand Reinhard's love until he pulls out his Longinus.

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>>20068749
Mithra pre-throne
>b-b-b-but
NO

She looks like a fucking slut, her face's like Mithra, and her CG looks like she's jumping towards the universe, probably a hint that she is gonna take the throne in that moment.

Case closed.

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>>20068749
MC doting nee-chan.

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>>20068757
>I like to think Mithra would misunderstand Reinhard's love until he pulls out his Longinus.
Actually, sounds like she'd be into that
>I've loved the Remorseless for ages now. His murderous impulses make my heart beat excitedly like a drum.
Will Reinhard reciprocate or will he learn how bothersome one-sided affection is?

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>>20068760
excepted that she has a different VA so it's still up to debate.

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I thought Mithra was going to be another warrior princess
>Turbo slut who wants a male harem

I'm not sure if this is an improvement, but it's definitely interesting.

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>>20068749
Mithra sensory (The Original) or Naraka's sensory.

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>>20068757
>his Longinus.
which one?

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>>20068765
>they start fighting
>they kill each other
>Reinhard starts reincarnating due to Merc Apoptosis while Mithra reincarnates with the throne's memory
>they're both on the ground with satisfied looks on their faces
>meanwhile Naraka is crying in the corner

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Its going to turn out Naraka isn't a cuck and that Mithra was really his lover bros.

And that Muzan was wrong for killing her. Foreknowledge declares so.

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>>20068842
What if it's revealed that Naraka has a Winston Smith-esque
>The more men you've had, the more I love you

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>>20068856
Then he's still a cuck

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>>20068861
What if he uses Mithra to lure in men who he plans to fuck?

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So any theorycrafting for new route? Judging by this pic >>20068763 it's not going to be part of any route.

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>>20068868
You got me there

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I wonder if minor characters are going to make an appearance in the upcoming scenario. I want to see the LDO interact with Satanael's Angels. Or introduce some brand new characters from the 1st and 3rd Heaven.

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>>20068875
What do you mean? It's basically Pantheon's prologue.

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Is it wrong that I feel despair for all those innocent people who have suffered and died because of the Hadou Gods and how nobody truly cares for them and how life is a game to them and their all powerful buddies?

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>>20068882
I think it's interesting how Sata and Reinhard parallel each other.

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I'm the autist that was having trouble with the 4:3 patch last thread and skipping through a new game and then running the patch actually worked
Thanks a load, chief

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>>20068896
You mean just side story? I expected some hijack into middle of Three Colors.

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>>20068900
That's why the Throne needs to go.

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>>20068925
And make it Four colors?

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>>20068749
>Slutty look
>Throne is a cat head, cat tail on that lady
>Futuristic looking bracelet
Mithra probably

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>>20068925
I think it's going to be longer than a simple side story, but yeah, basically. It takes place after Dies and K3, after all (or at least, it should).

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>>20068792
You know which one.

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>>20068925
Pantheon will be after Marie's route, not Rea's.

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Is it just me or did Big Snek have a pretty chill Law compared to most other Heavens?
Compared to stagnation, extinction, reincarnation, etc, he just gave some people deja vu.

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>Neko is going to be one half of Mithra
>Oppai!Rea is the other half
>She and Hirume only have the same uniform to throw us off

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>>20068942
Yeah, but it also prevented humanity from advancing, since he would inevitably reset everything at some point.

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>>20068942
Eternal Recurrence and multiverses are far from chill

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>https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/163538997/#163583166
>Firstly, I teared to pieces Shining Golden Beast [just trash].
>In that moment, the dark celestial body created by the noise [scream] from the lamenting Snake clashed into me
So the difference between Hajun winning and KKK happening and Merc looping the universe to Rea's route is Merc losing his cool when his kemono-dono dies?
:(

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Only problem with Mercurius' law is that some people (namely himself) remembered it. It wouldn't affect 99.99% of the population.

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>>20068952
>>20068955
That's not really part of his Law though, if he didn't manually reset the world because of muh ghetto it would've just continued on as a fairly normal world with deja vu

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>>20068960
Yeah. If he lived last, then he gets to reset. Not even Hajun can escape Acta Est Fabula's rates, but he can make them incredibly low.

But the biggest difference anon, is that Marie died first instead of Reinhard. If Reinhard was attacked, he'd live long enough to notice the tumor and tell them.

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>>20068942
The cycle of eternal return is fucking gay if you have no complete memory of the events that transpired.

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>>20068942
Snek reset universe all the time. Your life and everything is meaningless. You don't know when the world will be reseted. In DI it's modern times. Before DI his "dreams" were different. And he fucked people lives for fun.
>>20068966
He always want something to achieve. And he keep reseting universe until he achving what he desired most. And then instantly he want to achieve something new. Circle repeats for infinity amount of times. And then he forget what he already achieved.

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>>20068969
Marie didn't die first. From the battle to Rea route, the difference begins with Reinhard noticing Hajun's weakness which is the tumor because he is an apoptosis so he has a talent for noticing weaknesses. From there Marie uses her law to reincarnate the tumor and therefore Hajun loses his cheat engine. But Marie's law of coexistence is still broken and they still have a bug handicap compared to Hajun. Soon everybody dies with Merc being last.

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>>20068988
>Marie didn't die first.
Marie dies first in KKK, and the balance between the others breaks. Nobody notices the tumor there, Reinhard had to be attacked irst. What you're describing is how it went down in Rea's route where Hajun lost.

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>>20068982
>>20068986
But my point is that universe resetting isn't apart of his Law afaik, his law is just foreknowledge/deja vu.
I'm talking hypothetically if Snek didn't feel the need to reset and if we're looking at their Laws separately, Sneks was pretty tame.

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>>20068998
According to the translation here >>20068960 Marie doesn't die first, she dies last (not counting Ren who got smacked out of the Throne). Hajun fighting her and emanating is what broke the Hadou god co-existence thing, not her death.

>What you're describing is how it went down in Rea's route where Hajun lost.
And yeah, he literally did say "From the battle to Rea route"

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>>20068882
I want to dress Satanel like Sephiroth and make him cry over the fact that Kefka is the better villain.

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>>20068999
But your fate is already predetermined. And our history is full of war and shiet.

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>>20069016
You're doing Saltboy a disservice comparing him to Sephiroth

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Older Muzan would've been better.

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>Finally get to learn about Neo-Rusalka tomorrow
Soon

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>>20069049
But anon, who wouldn't be salty that they're forced to become Sephiroth instead of a superior villain?

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>>20069063
Tomorrow is Tsukuyomi.

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>>20069075
>Tsukuyomi was a boy who fucked Amaterasu
>Susanoo was a cunt who got Amaterasu to run into a cave, killed a goddess just because, got sneks drunk just to kill them and keep the girl offered to them as his wife, and went back to heaven was literally "Yeah, sorry."

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>>20069075
I wanna fuck Oppai!Rea

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>>20069102
t. Masada

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>>20069063

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>>20069110

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>>20068842
Is it cuckoldry if you love both people associated, to the point of desiring a threesome?

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>mithra never TRULY loved anyone
>she was never TRULY loved by anyone
>until she met the mc
r-right bros?

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>>20069391
Just keep telling yourself that until you come home to Reinhard and Muzan spitroasting her

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>>20069397
>Reinhard and Muzan spitroasting her
I'l kill the bitch if she touches my boy toys.

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>>20068671
Yeah, just remembered of this. Also the one that made >>20063192
Makes me wonder why'd they changed it just like that. Maybe Yuusuke forgot about it in the span of one year? But still, I would have preferred it they made his eyes red and his hair less super saiyan-ish much like his Yato ver.

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>>20069439
Wait. Which came first? Yato or Nigga Ren?

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Bros the rumors about a summer 2019 release are a lie right? We're getting Pantheon this year or winter 2019 for sure, r-right?

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>>20069455
>We're getting Pantheon this year

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>>20069453
Finale was first (AEF)
Then Yato(KKK)
Then Nigga Ren(AA)

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>>20068526
>Prefers her former subordinate Muzan over Naraka
Big Snek just lost his title of the King of Cucks

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>>20069462
b-but the artwork, the music, the voice acting and the script are all done. Only thing left is the gameplay!

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>>20069465
Oh wow I had no idea AA Black Ren came after Yato, that's kinda disappointing.
I thought Yato was the improvement over Black Ren but it looks like he took a step backwards.

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>>20069467
>former subordinate
What?

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>>20069465
>>20069483
^This

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So what do you think we will get next week in terms of news in the happy light cafe stream?

Pinky, notRea + updated protagonist? Finally some gameplay? New art for gatcha characters?

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>>20069439
In the Kajiri art, not only are his eyes red but his hair also look a little bit better, a bit more swept back then spiked up. Still, if not his Yato hair I wish he at least kept his normal Ren hair style.
Also I just noticed that pic confirms Black Ren is barefoot lmao, his feet were hidden in all 3 art showing him but now knowing this it kinda makes it more goofy looking

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>>20069467
Dude, She prefers Snek to Naraka from the sounds of it, even knowing he's a perv.

All that's left is for Mithra to want to bang Shirou over Naraka and we'll reach the new dimension.

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>>20069504
>All that's left is for Mithra to want to bang Shirou over Naraka
My, my, my, my, my...

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>>20069504
>All that's left is for Mithra to want to bang Shirou over Naraka and we'll reach the new dimension.
これはこれは。。。

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>>20069493
Good question, Throne previews maybe? Also, there's a separate event on the 26th, and Masada has been confirmed as a guest, let's see if we get anything out of that.

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what exactly is maries beach and how come the singularity takes ren and rein there instead of the throne

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>>20069516
You it will happen.

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Anyone got the image of Ren, Merc, and Rein all sitting in chairs next to each other. I can't find a high quality picture of it.

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>>20069532

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>>20069541

Not him, but that ain't HQ senpai.

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>>20069541
That is the image. Got it in higher quality?

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>>20069544
>>20069557
It's tapestry, so I don't think you'll find it in higher quality. Like pic related.

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>>20069544
>>20069557
Just get the Dies irae Gユウスケ All Art Works that was released 2 months ago, it's only 5000 yen.

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>>20068622
Fuck, don't make me remember this.

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>>20069593
???

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>>20068726
>Muzan
>Hajun
Who else is on the Thot Patrol?

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>>20069593
>>20068622
Huh?

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>>20069600
Reinhard says women are just distraction to him and Ren constantly shits on every girl that isn't Marie or his current love interest

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>>20069605
Ren shits on everyone though and Reinhard loves women, as he loves everything.

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>>20069600
>Forgetting the one who despises sin.
Satanael without a doubt.

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>>20069600
Wilheim

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>>20069637
Hadou gods only

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>>20068962
Pretty sure it affected Shirou and Reinhard in the long run, too. But well, both of them are apoptosis. If anything people would get deja vus now and then as you've said. Which makes me wonder if we're on it. I've gotten some deja vus every now and then, myself.

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>>20069654
Wilheim after consuming enough media to change his desire to
>I want this world to be filled with Vampire Lolis

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>>20069691
>I want this world to be filled with Helgas and Claudias
ftfy

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>>20069691
>>20069702
Now this is a desire I can get behind.

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>>20069637
>Sleeps with his mother sister
>Sleeps with some jewess
Wilhelm is a thot.

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>>20069731
Is Tomaru a thot?

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>>20069751
No shit. Fucking people who are basically yourself is the final step.

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What if my craving is "I want to become God"?

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>>20070006
Then you're lame
Also you end up like Mercurius in a relatively normal world

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>>20070006
What if my craving is "I want to become a superhero"?

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If Mercurius wish was that he wants to know everything, wouldn't that be a gudou? How did he get to the throne in the first place?

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>>20070063
Satanael fucked up and the result came to bit him in the ass.

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>>20070063
>How did he get to the throne in the first place
You have Saltman to thank for that.

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>>20070083
>>20070084
Reminder that Satanael is without sin and therefore perfect and any slander against him will not be tolerated.

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>>20070083
>>20070084
What do you mean? I know he reset the world so that he technically shouldn't exist, but how does that affect Mercurius?

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>>20070106
Because he played with Time, Parallels worlds and paradox and do you know who's a walking paradox?

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>>20070106
I'll just copy-paste this explanation from a JOP:

No, Nerose is the exact reason why our NEETkami came to exist at all. You should understand it if you've read KKK and Paradise lost. Nerose's wish was to "wash away the sin". Remember? "Why are we so sinful?" This is where the contradiction is. You need to understand that at the time of Hisouten Throne was still a universe, not a multiverse. And the Throne universe is all that is. Hadou god, the one controlling Throne is all that is. He is the world, the universe, brahman. There's nothing but him, he includes all the souls of the world. And what Nerose wished? The world without sin. Everything and everyone sinful is unneded, and thrown away. But how can you throw anything away from the world, if there's nothing outside? Since the Throne universe is everything. That's the contradiction that allowed the possibility of something existing outside of the Hisouten universe. And that's how Snake was born as a hadou god.

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>>20070118
So Snek is literally a Lovecraftian being born from outside of the universe? That's actually pretty cool

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>>20070118
Got it. Thanks.

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>>20070118
That sounds pretty dope actually, this guy keeps on delivering.

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What exactly is Naraka? He calls himself the hardware, so I can only think of him as the throne, but wasn't the throne created in Mithra's rule?

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>tfw you'll never be a part of Mithra's vast legion of lovers

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>>20070006
What if my craving is "I want a kingdom"?

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>>20070403
Your apoptosis will tear you a new one.

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>>20070290
a massive cuck and a fag

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>>20069602
Mithra is God of Dualism. And she has Heterochromia. 2+2=

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>>20070456
So? I still doesn't understand why should she be a yandere?

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do all Throne gods have the ability to reset the universe?
after taking over in Marie's route the world just carries on from mercurius' world but in Rea's route its a complete reboot

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Not really sure how i should call this: epithet? whatever

Snek is the god of eternal recurrence, Ren of eternal moment, which ones would be the rest?

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>>20070403
>>20070444
Why are so many of them gay for their apoptosis?

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>>20070469
King Crimson

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>>20070469

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>>20070470
Because not everyone can be as lucky as Habaki, so they have to make do.

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>>20070469
eternal embrace for marie

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>>20070469
ZA WARUDO

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>>20070467
No. It's because Snek dies in Rea route. In Marie he's alive in the end.

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>>20070494
Reminder that he is enjoying this every night:

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>>20070467
Marie's emanation doesn't contradict the universe created under Snek's law, so there's no need to "reset" it for her law to be applied, but I do believe all of them have this power

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>>20069600
Did someone say THOT Patrol?

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>>20070499
That's Ren

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>>20070464
Because good and evil.

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>>20070504
>Has this 10/10 beauty
>Only has one daughter
Sohoyamaru needs a tune up

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>>20070507
>but I do believe all of them have this power
That makes no sense. Snek supposed to be special. Reseting universe creates foreknowledge.

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>>20070513
With the new lore we got, she is more a Goddess of conflict that any explicit "good" or "evil" since the meaning and position of each change everytime a side is destroyed.
>>20070544
Hajun did reset the world when he took the Throne thought, it took 8000 years to get back to Heian/Sengoku period level.

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>>20070575
This is probably automatic mechanism or something. What the point of the Throne if in final battle against other God the Earth or universe can be destroyed? Maybe they only able to recreate planets and live? It's technically not the same as reseting universe. As I understated from Snek monologue in first Rea ending, he repeats everything from Big Bang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20070544
>>20070575
It is not a reset in the same sense that Snake resets, though the process is similar. What they are doing is painting over the old world and starting their new from scratch, not actually reversing time.

[Anonymous No.]

Being a Gudou God seems a lot more comfy than being a Hadou God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20070851
Less exciting though.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a canon explanation for the extraordinary resilience of clothing in this series? Mercurius or Rusalka may have tinkered with the L.D.O uniforms to make them sturdy off-screen but how does Ren's (or Shirou's) outfit survive the events they go through?

Also, I'm going through the Marie route and I love how Schrieber's descriptions of having his eyehole fucked among other things get to stay in the all-age version but sex is too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20070957
Their clothes are more durable because Snek has no interest in bodies besides Marie. Imagine if Ren didn’t bring his pair of Hulk shorts & went out with his wang out during Finale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20070957
Anime logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20070957
I just headcanon handwave it as “ahnerrabes are spirit weapons so they phase through the clothes and harm the target/targets soul diretly. I know that’s complete bullshit though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071048
That doesn't work because they crash into stuff and whatnot. Also Wilhelm fights with his bare hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068882
The complete voice cast does not leave that much room for extra characters; even Habaki got in only because Hajun's CV was already on board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068988
>battle to Rea route
>tumor is a cheat engine
You guys keep talking about things you seem to believe are common knowledge despite the fact the actual games do not confirm anything like that. Might as well discuss fanfiction.

>>20070092
Did you even see the name of his Throne?

>>20070957
I assume it's just budget issues in terms of graphics; the manga does depict Ren and Wilhelm having their clothes torn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068999
>But my point is that universe resetting isn't apart of his Law afaik, his law is just foreknowledge/deja vu.

You seem to be mistaking something here. Foreknowledge is a -side effect- of him emanating his Law as the Throne God. The fact that he is able to reset -is- what makes his Law work.

The full picture might not be laid out for in the game for sure, but once you piece everything together it starts to become clear. Mercurius is this kind of paradoxical being that craves knowledge. He wants to know everything, every possibility and refuses to die as long as there's something he still desires to know. How does he achieve these things ? The Reset. Mercurius is like gamer. He resets when he hits a game over. He'll reload a save just to see what kind of ending the other dialogue option brings.

Unfortunately, taking the Throne means everything in the universe is now part of him. Nothing new will occur without him feeling Foreknowledge. Mercurius is constantly craving for unknown things, but everything new in the universe becomes retroactively known to him the moment it pops up. Marie, is an exception by being a natural-born gudou god, hence his fixation on her. (note that when Ewigkeit is explained as a method to create or rather transmute superhumans, the implication is that this is a process to artificially create beings like Marie or Merc)

Mercurius -will- reset. Because his universe works on the assumption that he does. The parallel worlds won't exist without the idea of him resetting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071418
This actually makes a lot of sense, but honestly, even with the Universe resets, his Law is still really tame compared to some others.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I knew everything. I hate this feeling of uncertainty. Even these hands I'm typing with might not exist. I just don't have enough proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071399
Ah it's you again, are you really ignorant about the two outcomes of the Battle of Hajun? One ooutcome is KKK while the other is Rea route from Marie route. You can ask a JoP if you want, but I'm not going to deal with you.

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone have the higher resolution pic of Reinhard on his throne from the pantheon website?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071399
The hell are you talking about? Tumor being the original source of Hajun's power and the main reason making him Hadou IS common knowledge. Because it's literally shown in the Yakou's ending.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it that Hadou Goddesses are such sluts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071576
Don't prove my point by echoing second-hand info that you have no way to confirm.

>>20071610
What I assume has happened here is that someone at some point drew a straight line between the tumor and Hajun's power despite the fact that there is his craving between the two, and everyone just took that for a fact because no one checks their sources. The tumor gave birth to his craving, which in turn gives Hajun his power; removing the tumor wouldn't really change much if his craving is already there.

The Yakou ending mostly deals with Yakou; most of Hajun's backstory is told in the flashback battle and Nakanoin's story in the Habaki route, and neither of them say "The tumor is the cheat engine without which Hajun would be much weaker". You are free to prove me wrong by giving a direct quote, though no one has responded to me giving one last thread, so my expectations are pretty low at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

I call upon our heroic JoPs! Grant us salvation!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071708
>畸形嚢腫だけは波旬の渇望を強化するのに役立っているが、強化される理由が畸形嚢腫が不快だから(＝要らないと思うから)であり、本末転倒である。

I got this off of atwiki, but it mentions how the tumor strengthens Hajun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071726
They all died anon. My craving slew them like dogs.
Do you truly think you are man enough for the task of taking upon their mantle and challenging me?
I thought not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071731
>Only the tumor is of any use, as it reinforces Hajun's craving; however, the reason it does so is because having the tumor brings discomfort (= he thinks he does not need it), so he fails to understand its importance.
Like I said, it reinforces the craving, which in turn gives him power.

[Anonymous No.]

What if Hajun but a cute girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071753
>渇望の強さによる能力の強度上昇、己が渇望で他の能力を無効化する「鬩ぎ合い」は、神格が持つ基本能力であるため特殊な能力とは言えない

Holy shit, now that I look more deeply I think this might actually support what you're saying. Or my ability to parse weeb is even worse than I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071770
>The stronger the craving, the greater his abilities are; being able to nullify other abilities in a "clash" with craving is a basic ability that all gods have, and thus cannot be called a special ability per se.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071708
>>20071753
You seem to like... be really focused on denying this idea of a 'cheat engine' analogue despite also acknowledging that it gives him power ? What gives ?

Hajun is strong, that is certain. Without it he's just no longer invincible because he can't drive his power to infinity through suffering infinite autism.

>覇吐という畸形嚢腫だけを極限まで意識することで、己以外を見もしない状態になれている波旬は、己の強度を無限に上昇させることができる。逆に言えば極限まで意識している覇吐と対する時だけは己以外を見てしまうため、波旬は並の覇道神という型に嵌まり、最強の力を発揮しえないのである。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071708
>You are free to prove me wrong
Why would I need to prove you wrong if now you're saying correct things? You're absolutely correct in saying that Hajun would've been still insanely strong even without the Tumor (actually, I'm pretty sure that at some point Masada even said, that if Hajun was born without the Tumor as a Gudou god, he would've still been able to reach the Throne, which is normally impossible for a Gudou god), and that the Tumor basically feeds his carving, thus giving him the infinite power. The only thing you're wrong about is the fact that Hajun won't become weaker if the Tumor is removed, because that's exactly what happens in the alternative scenario that goes into the Rea route in dies. And that's what happens when Habaki kills Hajun, it's actually in those lines you yourself recited earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20069522
someone please respond i really cant figure it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071770
I don't understand this Hajun debate, because it seems really clear cut.

>Hajun's craving is what gives him power
>Tumor helps reinforce craving
>Tumor gone means Hajun's autism is lessened

Think of it in the same sense that a psychopath is driven to greater heights of insanity because of a biological affliction. Even if you cured that affliction, you wouldn't cure the psychopathy, but you would make it somewhat more manageable.

The story itself confirms that Hajun is easier to defeat without the tumor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071830
>>20071867
>>20071935
What rubs me the wrong way about these discussions are two things, basically. First, the tumor is such an irreplaceable part of Hajun that I see no point in discussing scenarios where he doesn't have it. It's the same as saying Reinhard would be weaker if he had no head: it's both obvious and useless, as it does not really tell you how exactly you'd cut his head off. You sure as hell aren't going to cut the tumor out of Hajun without killing him in the first place (which is what happens at the end of Kajiri; Habaki first deals the finishing blow, and then the tumor's soul flies out).

The second thing is that by saying that he'd be much weaker if he had no tumor you make it sound as if removing it is all it takes to beat him. There was a post in the last thread that said Rindou could defeat the tenmas only thanks to the tumor, which ignores pretty much any contribution made by the rest of the expedition. There is a reason why Kajiri has no "main" route: everyone made beating Hajun possible, not just Habaki. Pretending that they didn't throws the entire message of the game out the window, which is just one reason I dislike discussing Shinza power levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071759
>tfw no qt brown yandere three-eyed god-gf to praise and die for
At least there is a demon brown slut nukige coming soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071959
Don't take the KKK discussions here too seriously. There are like five people who've actually read it.
Also, technically at least once the Tumor was removed without killing Hajun himself — when Marie reincarnated the Tumor in the scenario that goes into the Rea route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072006
And most likely the version of Hajun that is revived for pantheon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072022
>instead of the tumour being unperceivable, pinkiy just clings onto hajun's back in order to raise his autism levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071959
So you just felt discomfort at it. Understandable, I don't really like seeing it when things get really stupid either. However, but it doesn't really help if you yourself are equally incoherent about it and taking part.

>I see no point in discussing scenarios where he doesn't have it

Sure there is. Do you think he'll have it in Pantheon?

>There was a post in the last thread that said Rindou could defeat the tenmas only thanks to the tumor, which ignores pretty much any contribution made by the rest of the expedition.

I mean, Ren's pretty much barely gets much success to call his own in all of DI too, and everyone's just dancing to Merc's handouts in the first place. Divine intervention is everywhere in Shinza, and I don't think it invalidates anyone's characters. Besides this is a thread where we get Hajun worshippers and constant cuckposting, please try not to take offense at everything and stress yourself out of your own fandom.

If all else fails, pray to Spinne.

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently I heard that Yato stopped time on the throne to prevent Hajun’s law from being complete so maybe that’s why the throne doesn’t have a memory of Yato. Don’t take what I said as confirmation, this is just speculation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072050
But Yato never gets on the throne, he only ever exists in Hajun's world, being stabilized by Tokoyo in Edo Suwahara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072050
That's not how he prevents it exactly. Yato is just clinging to the last piece of the old world and preventing Hajun from getting it. Hajun's law can't be completed until he gets that one last piece of land.

It's like he's trying to format a hard disk, but it's forever stuck at 99% because Yato is preventing the last 1% from getting rewritten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072050
Ren was ejected from the Throne before he became Yato, maybe he left his imprint on the Throne during the clash but anything after that can be considered as another person if the Hadou Gods were recreated trough the Throne memory.
Meaning you have Ren pre-KKK with the Pantheon team and another Ren(Yato) chilling with Rea-senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072050
>implying that's not going to be the excuse for Yato being a limited rateup and needing extra plotdevice premium currency resourses to join your pantheon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068657
The Zashiki Warashi of Intellectual Village by the same guy who made Index

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072039
I... really want to see that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20071980
sauce?

[Anonymous No.]

>http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/diesirae_switch/special/scenario.html
Yomi-chan today, 3 days left lads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
As little I get she confirms that Dawn is her master.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
>VA
CUTE

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
Is she made for bullying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
WAGA ARUJI
OFURO DAISUKI

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
Cute, would fug

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072432
>>20072412
Pinky loves baths?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412

So she's the one voiced by Ami Koshimizu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1051850684377649153

[Anonymous No.]

SUMIMASEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072444
>メイド服を着せたい。(真摯)
執事は居てもマジもんのメイドがいない正田ワールドに一石を……

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
Holy shit, what a cute voice, I'm in love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
>born for threesome

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
>Thought she'd be a Rea clone
>Cute voice
>Actually sounds endearing
Will there finally be someone who can compete with Beatrice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072425
Why does Amaterasu look so much like Rusalka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072489
She doesn't really. She looks like your usual pink hair, genki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072489
Just because she has pink hair and is petite doesn't mean she looks like Rusalka.
The Red haired catgirl looks more like Rusalka than she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072492
>>20072499
>pink hair
>genki
>loli
>only much stronger and useful to the plot.
A-At least Rusalka's still a slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072504
>loli
what

[Anonymous No.]

Translation of Tsukuyomi's countdown speech by Zack:
"Pardon me... I've been invited to this dignified gathering, but haven't any idea what to say...
No, I do see this as a great honor, of course.
So great it feels wasted on someone like me... Or rather, it's almost too awe-inspiring...
I'm just so trifling compared to everyone else, I feel like I should know my place and stay silent...
Instead, allow me to speak of my distinguished master.
My master's name is the Dawn. The exalted Seventh Throne,
who is extremely... not... diligent.
And a far-cry from... graceful.
They are cheerful, if not selfish,
and on top of being a glutton, are terrible at waking up on time and bad at cleaning.
And despite being lazy, are extremely curious and a mischievous prankster.
They're truly a troublesome individual that causes me grief time after time...
Ah, pardon me. Please forget that.
My master is... is, hmm... Oh, yes! They love baths.
...In any case, they're a passionate person who's true of heart, so please, treat my master well!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072522
>I've been invited to this dignified gathering
This sweet-summer child

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072522
>Hmm, it's a bit unclear who Tsukuyomi's master is, or rather, if it's Habaki or Amaterasu.
>I tend to think it's Amaterasu tho.

It's obviously pink yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here, the pastebin says to play Rea route after Marie's but for the little I heard isn't Marie the main heroine and her route the one from which the other games continue from? Shouldn't it be played last?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072522
>this dignified gathering
>Ren
>Mercurius
>Mithra
>Hajun
>dignified
She is in for a ride.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072725
While Marie's route is considered canon, Rea's route uses it as a foundation for exploring its themes a little bit further, so you're likely to miss a lot of stuff if you read it before Marie's.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for tomorrow. I need to hear her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072725
Both routes are canon but Rea's route needs to be read last.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072725
In steam version route order should be locked. Don't pick routes from title menu screen. Always start new game. Marie route is locked until you finish Kei or Sumika. Rea route is locked until you finish Marie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072735
I want to take a bath with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072735
It's going to be Ookubo Rumi and you know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072735
>Rumi Ōkubo
She is literally just Liz

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072732
>>20072740
>>20072747
Thanks anon. Hope I can catch up before Pantheon comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072784
You still need to read Paradise Lost and Kajiri Kamui Kagura tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072797
Don't scare the poor man. I'm pretty sure parts of ParaLost were retconned and they said you just needed to know Dies Irae to get the gist of Pantheon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072797
Masada will very likely retcon and expand on parts of Paradise Lost so it's really not that important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072797
Dies Irae and know about Hajun*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20070469
Mithra is Dualism, i believe, don't remember the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072805
It may makes you look like being a secondary and asking yo be spoonfeeded when there's lores others than DI.
>>20072843
Just look at the Pantheon pastebin.

[Anonymous No.]

>Oppai!Rea is serene, collected and speaks formally and in a calm demeanor
I don't even want to fuck her anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072884
I dunno about you but this makes me want to fuck her a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072751
Disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072752
But I thought Rulsaka was the better Liz...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072797
>Currently they are all untranslated
Did it change but the pastebin wasn't updated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072928
No they're untranslated, and you're fine enough reading Dies Irae and knowing about Hajun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072939
Got it, thanks again.

[Anonymous No.]

>Already went over 14% of the Anki deck
I'm going to make it. My craving is to never give up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072522
>who is extremely... not... diligent.
>And a far-cry from... graceful.
>and on top of being a glutton, are terrible at waking up on time and bad at cleaning.
>And despite being lazy, are extremely curious and a mischievous prankster.
This sounds a lot like Susanoo rather than Amaterasu... if we're talking about mythology of course
Either way, I assumed that would be pinkie's character. The funny man to MC's straight man.
I can feel the coming of the greatest manzai duo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072884
You're not welcome here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072022
>>20072040
Note that apparently the tumor is connected to his third eye, so seeing how it's still open in Pantheon, the tumor should still be there (even if it has no soul now). Not like it matters too much, seeing how there are so many people around to trigger him even without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068500
I want to rape Reinhard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072868
So instead of Dualism it would be be, God of Dualistic Truth of Good and Evil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
>>20072522
So she is not a Hadou God but serves pink hair?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073073
It's pretty difficult to figure out in case of Amaterasu; each member of it is a Gudou god, but together they make a Hadou entity. I assume it's the same case for her, but Pinky might be different. Some time has obviously passed since the event of Kajiri, and we have no idea what happened since then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073073
how about you wait until thursday and find out then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073073
She'll be (Our) designated waifu, hope you rike

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073073
She is probably a God but is just subservient to Amaterasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073067
Yes, Dualistic Truth of Good and Evil is the name read from the kanji of Ahura Mazda, the 1st Heaven, her Divine Name is Shinga/The Truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073073
Like>>20073090 said, she could be an extra Hadou God like Ten and Reinhard.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop assuming that Hajun's tumor is some kind of power limiter that stops him from being stronger. If it wasn't for the tumor Hajun wouldn't have the craving that made him into a god to begin with.
What defeated Hajun in the first place was the fact his law got denied. Keishirou's noble sacrifice denied tengudou and forced a crack in his law, which forced an actual crack on his body and made him vulnerable. It's stated quite literally.
https://youtu.be/_clj3Ght6sU?t=535

Hajun's defeat was inevitable because the very thing that killed him was the thing that made him what he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073110
We were arguing about the opposite, tumor actually powers up Hajun. Without tumor, Hajun isn’t invincible with immeasurable TK, that was the argument. The throne and souls latching onto to him nerfed him actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073098
What does Ahura Mazda stands for? Nickname? title?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073174
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073174
It's alternate name of her Heaven/Throne, like how Satanael's Throne is called both Imperfect Paradise and Zoar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073183
>Imperfect Paradise
>Imperfect
>Paradise
When will this damn chuuni start making sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073144
Not that guy denying the whole tumor thing, but I'm pretty sure Hajun doesn't need it, to be invincible

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073192
The logic behind the name is explained in greater detail in Kajiri, but basically Satanael believed it to be perfect, but then Snek came and proved that it still has flaws that led to his birth.

[Anonymous No.]

Ren should dick Mithra, the duo would be fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073206
Sure, he is still fucking strong for a normal hadou without tumor because his law is just pure autistic power compared to all of the known hadou gods. It just means that he becomes beatable once he loses it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073249
*with a very low chance of success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073249
Well - and correct me if I'm wrong - I'm referring to the how the tumor isn't necessary for him to reach the level when he stomped the Dies Irae cast. Like, the tumor isn't a power up by itself, it's just taking his autism and aggravating it to super ridiculous levels. The power is still Hajun's and he could get it back if there was a catalyst around to magnify his autism by the same extent.

Pragmatically it's the same thing that he's nerfed and beatable, but I think the principle matters too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073232
Ren is boring faggot compared to any other characters except Marie and Rea. I don't want to see his bullshit again. Leave Mithra alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073266
I think the difference lies in the tumor “actively” touching him since it’s a part of his brain that’s different from the mere presence of others. Which is worse? Having something irritating you but you can’t get rid of it, or just some people that exists that you can get rid of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073232
Now we know why Ren's stress levels are so high. You just know he will have trouble dealing with Mithra the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073267
Shota MC soon, will his Hadou be to be the ultimate straightman to end all autism?

[Anonymous No.]

Wait a second. What even is Mercurius' law anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073267
What you find boring, Mithra thinks is "adorable". Her own words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073290
??
It's still Eternal Recurrence

[Anonymous No.]

So as I understand only Snek can control space, time and physical laws? Space magic is his main power because of his craving, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073296
...Why? He doesn't want to die anymore and the paradox has already kind of been broken, thanks to Hajun. Shouldn't his law have changed by now?

[Anonymous No.]

Throne Shirou when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073285
>His law is to ban autism from the universe
>all gods lose their powers
>Ren gets his nichijou
>the world can go on without being fucked by autismos every two days
It was that simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073294
>What you find boring
Everything? He's one of blandest characters in DI. And yes this is his role in DI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073309
Snek throws logic and causality out of the window, don't think about it too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073285
>Shota MC
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073330
Actually he might have a point. Masada did mention this.
>The Mercury sheds his skin, born anew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073323
Specifically him being straightfoward and strict
Again, from her countdown speech

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073334
Pic related>>20068763

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073337
>>20073309
He does state pretty clearly that at this point he's only doing what Marie wants. So rather than "I will reset every result that does not satisfy me (when I die by her hands)" it's "I will reset every result that does not satisfy me (failing to do what she wants me to do)".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073349
Marie doesn't deserve Snake.

[Anonymous No.]

Post translation of Snek speech for Pantheon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073359
"Hehe. Yo, Marie>all. Ciao. Hehe."

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073371
>Reinhard cries in the corner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073359
"That nigga Naraka has got another thing coming"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073359
https://pastebin.com/YdbW39D7

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073343
>Again, from her countdown speech
I'm not Mithra. I don't think his autism is adorable.
I'm gay for Kemono-dono and Snake. Ren better to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>You, and you, and you, as well. Such a gathering of familiar faces. Did you long to see me again that much? Truly, to have such one-sided emotion directed at me can be unpleasant, but... it does save me the trouble of explaining things.

What would Satanael think of this douche?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073359
"Aaah, indeed. I see. My dear companion has already handled introductions.
You, and you, and you, as well. Such a gathering of familiar faces. Did you long to see me again that much?
Truly, to have such one-sided emotion directed at me can be unpleasant, but... it does save me the trouble of explaining things.
As you surely already know, this world is one where Gods subrogate one another. In other words, multiple gods fundamentally cannot coexist in the same age.
However, it seems that rule has since crumbled... Or perhaps there was some truth we were unaware of at work.
Either way, things being as they are, individuals who could never meet one another have all gathered in one place. Fascinating, is it not?
But being reunited with my beloved goddess is all I could ask for... I do intend to do anything she would wish for."

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073387
He thinks that he was right and left everything to him without putting up a fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073387
>NANI
Satanael was OHKO instantly after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073379
>Ren's autism strikes again
oh god no
>>20073393
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073395
An accurate depiction of Snek overtaking the Throne, directly from the latest trailer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073387
He think he's a cool guy because Snek proved to him that have was still flawed despite is so-called perfection.

[Anonymous No.]

>satanael calls muzan chichiue
Ccute

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073309
No, Snek was always that kind of an paradoxical asshole and his law just facilitates that. Him wanting to die is nothing but a combination of just him being fucking tired of FOREKNOWLEDGE and turning Marie into this glorious symbol of DEATH and UNKNOWN.

He saw the possibility in Marie and thought 'Shit, man. I'm gonna make the best chuu2 opera script EVAR where in the end I can DIE IN HER EMBRACE and gloriously pave the way for the BEST GODDESS WORLD'.

He got one out of two and didn't reset because Mercurius is going to be curious about where this is going and for once he doesn't have FOREKNOWLEDGE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073425
in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti
Amen

[Anonymous No.]

Bros, Kei is pretty cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073449
She's best girl.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Mercurius universally known as a pervert when he doesn't really do anything incredibly perverted other than get his son laid

[Anonymous No.]

IMAGINE space sex between Gods

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073371
Seems accurate

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95C_KHdDkbA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073456
He's crazy stalker and gae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95C_KHdDkbA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073467
>>20073465
W-what is this sense of deja vu?

[Anonymous No.]

>Snek is foot fetishist

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073371
>Ciao
>Mercurius was coffeeman all along
EVORUTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073456
You know he's the god of creeps when even the creepiest of the LDO are all creeped out by him.

This is a man who would likely say something very accurate about your fapping habits in a conversation after meeting you for 5 minutes if he knows it would amuse him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073479
>1st and 2nd heaven crew make the L.D.O look well adjusted
uh-oh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073479
I had always just assumed they were creeped out because the only thing he does is monologue with Reinhard, but watching the video put everything into perspective

He's still my favourite

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073465
>>20073467
This has to be for jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073479
>LDO are all creeped out by him.
The LDO were creeped out by Isaak, just because he looked like Reinhard. They're all a bunch of bitches desu. Save for Machina

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073522
That's justified, they all suffer from Post-Reinhard Traumatic Disorder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073522
They weren't that creeped by Methuselah so they can't be that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073539
I'm no JoP but I heard a lot of screaming when he started kicking their ass. Mainly from Rusalka (of course)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073540
>facing an opponent who can accelerate the flow of time as a person who'd do anything to stay young forever
Justified, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073540
The point is they didn't go insane from his broken fear aura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073540
>Mainly from Rusalka
Why does Snake hate her so much? There's nobody else in the LDO he trolls as much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073320
>ban autism from the universe
>pic related is his final enemy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073557
Spinne?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073557
He likes pure girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073465
>>20073467

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073570
based merc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073557
Don't forget how Wilhelm gets cockblocked every single time he's about to get a half-decent fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073570
He literally made her into the slut with brainwashing when she was at her lowest point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073578
Yeah, but Wilhelm's a capricious piece of shit. Merc doesn't like cheaters.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, if I were God, I'd be just like Mercurius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073585
She already was dicked by her husband.
This is not pure at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073655
Anon, having sex with one's spouse for the purpose of procreation is pure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073666
Sex is not pure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073675
This is why Japan's birthrate is so low. Sex born out of love and the desire to procreate is pure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073696
Sniffing Marie's foot is pure. Procreating is not. Do you even Hadou God?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073726
Sex for the sake of procreation and hands holding are the purest forms of love
t.Saltgod

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073765
fuck off Rusalka

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073474
A man of supreme taste, as always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068679
He has the best waifu in the multiverse, he should just be happy with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073921
post some pages anon onegai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073921
>that monkey looking nigga gets to have sex with her every night
It's not fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073936
Not him, but I got some scans of it, and it doesn't seem to have anything super-special in it.

Also they're too fucking big to post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073936
Habaki either sometimes looks like an ikemen or an ape.
>>20073961
Upload them somewhere else then dude. Or crush em.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073774

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073936
Got the pic from google. We will have to ask>>20073961

[Anonymous No.]

I'll upload them in a minute, but it actually seems to be a different book (it has Akebono no Hikari in the title, while this one doesn't >>20073921 ), so I guess the search goes on.

[Anonymous No.]

who's Mithra and Yomi's VA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074111
Mithra- Mikako Komatsu

Yomi- Ami Koshimizu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074111
Komatsu Mikako and Koshimizu Ami, respectively. At least that's what the CV butas say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074127
>>20074131
Huh, I'm usually a VA nerd but I didn't pick up on the Koshimizu. Not using her usual voice I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

is it Lisa or Riza Brenner

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074156
Lisa, it's a German name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074156
both

[Anonymous No.]

So here you go, the Akebono no Hikari artbook. I guess it'd be better to torrent it, but I'm honestly not sure how that works, so if anyone else wants to make one, be my guest.
https://mega.nz/#!2cBEFChb!SasR1BZobPJ53aC68ShqWVYpFqPgHJ0FcmUqz93XzgM

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074192
>2GB

[Anonymous No.]

>>20073557
>Likes a cow
>Bullies a cute pettanko
Not my guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074127
I honestly expected Mithra's voice would sound more like FGO's Scat.

[Anonymous No.]

My friend recently started Dies irae, just finished the Cain scene in the club, and he's liking it so far except he keeps calling Shirou cheap because apparently his ability is immortality and pretty much plot armor.
Is there a way to convince him or should I just wait for him to see Shirou vs Wilhelm

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074275
Rusalka is even more stacked than Marie and almost as much as Lisa. What'd you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074150
Because it's clearly Asami Seto and not Koshimizu, people are deaf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074192
Bless thee anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074012

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074281
just wait for him to read Kasumi's route and watch shirou fucking die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074192
Thank you anon, I'll have a look through it later tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072522
>and bad at cleaning
Imagine making what's basically the supreme God of the multiverse clean your house.

[Anonymous No.]

G Yusuke artbook still not scanned?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074523

[Anonymous No.]

Nice, I've been looking for this one picture forever.
Whilst looking through it I realised something. VSB is full of shit. There's no info about any of the taikyoku values for salt or amaterasu, and that's allegedly where they got the values. I'm still annoyed since I spent the better part of an hour trying to find a non-existent source, including atwiki, past dies irae radio epsidoes. Masada tweets etc.

Whilst I have everyone's attention. I got to glance through the thread and there seems to be some issues with understanding how Hajun's mechanics work. So I'll try my best to explain it as simply as possible. In short the anon who argues that it's his desire which gives him power, not the tumour, is essentially correct, although the tumour itself is the origin of his desire.working through memory, planning on re-reading kkk once i'm done with silverio though, but like the other anon said. KKK is massive, the stuff about the tumour's mechanics aren't really that standout in the grand story. i think yakou might have explained it to habaki after reizen went nuclear and before that specific fight but i'm not sure
>hajun can feel the tumour's presence
>hajun's deepest desire is to be rid of it and finally become alone
>thus starts the cycle of autism
>his taikyoku raises continuously in an effort to get rid of whatever is touching him
>this is only really possible due to the odd nature of his existence andf soul
>he can't get rid of it
>it just infinitely rises
>stomps the shit out of marie and her boys
>gets the throne
>tumour clings on desperately and hides amogst all the souls leaching off hajun's autism
>eventually creates habaki as a sensory
Someone brought up the Tumour Mandala earlier so I suppose I'll explain that as well.
>tumour leeches of hajun's infinite autism
>distrubutes it's power to it's apoptosis rindou
>rindou acts as a relay and diverts it's powers to the only regular members of the ee, shiori and soujirou

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone post the Kei arithmetics picture? I only have pic related and didn't think to screenshot my own game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074820
So it's what I thought as well. The tumor actively and physically touches Hajun. This is why Hajun can increase his Taikyoku to infinity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074854
Kei!
Kei!
Sakurai Kei is cute!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074862
>The tumor actively and physically touches Hajun.
Well yeah, iirc he said he could feel something touching him, something breathing on him etc.
>This is why Hajun can increase his Taikyoku to infinity
Well, infinity expanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074820
Wasn't really part of this discussion, but thank you for clearing up all those misunderstandings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074897
The cutest. I wasn't entirely satisfied with how her route went but the idea of her character is top tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074820
That's pretty much what I thought. The TK is a result of Hajun's craving, but it's rising because the tumor causes such an extreme reaction that it propagates an infinite cycle.

So theoretically, Hajun can reach that level again if he ever came into close contact with something as pervasive as the tumor. Which is probably unlikely, but still.

[Anonymous No.]

My desire is to tongue bathe Amaterasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074820
VSB Wiki? (or Fandom now)

If so, as a former admin there, you better ignore them, pretty much need to have autism or have some sort of mental disorder to be a staff member nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075019
>So theoretically, Hajun can reach that level again if he ever came into close contact with something as pervasive as the tumor. Which is probably unlikely, but still.
Probably, have him wear pinkie like a backpack like this anon said >>20072039
>>20075048
Yup. i'll judge your autism levels if you tell me the name you used

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074820
>There's no info about any of the taikyoku values for salt or amaterasu
So that stuff about Nerose being equal to Marie route Ren/Reinhard/Marie was bullshit huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075099
Back in the day (1~2 years ago) autism wasn't a requirement. Safe zone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074192
Will any anon upload this to panda ?

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine how stale this cake is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075654
My wife Anna is a young and fresh cupcake!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074494
Well yeah that's what I meant by Shirou vs Wilhelm. Still annoying how he can't understand it despite the numerous deja vu monologues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20072412
>>20072522
Boring, as expected. And Pink will also be boring.
I don't really fall for waifubait characters whatsoever when it comes to this series.

[Anonymous No.]

When I started reading Dies Irae, I thought that Shirou wasn't dying at first because he was taking some sort of special drug that drastically improved his reaction speed or something. I also thought that his talk about foreknowledge was just him IRL shitposting to piss Ren off. Only once I finished Kei's route did I figure out how stupid I was, quite like Kei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075864
Okay fag

[Anonymous No.]

My wife Shouko-chan in twelve hours!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075868
Pretty sure he did take some sort of drug before the battle that allowed him to actually be able to stand a chance of dodging, but even then the forknowledge was the main reason he could survive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075898
>>20075868
Nah, it was the Naraka juice giving him a boost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075868
I initially thought that Ren and Shirou are the teen versions of Mercurius and Reinhard and that there's gonna be some serious time-travel shenanigans involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075914
Same

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075914
>Ren and Shirou are the teen versions of Mercurius and Reinhard
They kind of are, in a sense. Both Shirou and Reinhard are exceptionally talented yet bored with what their lives have become, not helping is that they both share foreknowledge of the world around them. However, a violent encounter with a blue-haired individual (Ren and Mercurius) leads them into desiring what they want the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075952
>leads them into desiring what they want the most
Man butt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075952
That's true. But I meant to say that I thought that Ren and Shirou are literally Reinhard and Snek during their teens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075914
Ditto. And I thought Machina was a rival delinquent.

Really, my perceptions of DI before and after playing varied a lot. I also thought Mercurius was a deification of the snake in the garden of Eden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076071
>I also thought Mercurius was a deification of the snake in the garden of Eden.
It's not like this is out of character for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076074
While true, I thought he literally was the snake and that DI was some kind of incredibly deep and well researched elaboration on Judeo-Christianity. Pretty silly in hindsight

[Anonymous No.]

I was under the impression that Marie was actually evil, likely even more evil than the Nazis, and was just pretending to be cute at first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075907
Am I the only one who was a little disappointed to find out he was an Apoptosis, and now a sensory?
Feels like it kinda tones down the badass he had in his feats like beating Wilhelm as a human and stealing Ahnenerbes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075914
I thought that Snek wanted to fuck Reinhard because he mistook him for Marie. Now I think Snek wanted to fuck Marie become mistook her for Reinhard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076071

That's actually closer to Satanael.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20075898
>>20075907
I think it was said by Wilhelm in the common route that he was probably taking something to enhance his physical abilities enough to be able to dodge and he wasn't gonna live long anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076570
Wasn't his body fucked up and like constantly producing adrenaline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076641
I think it was implied Shirou had a cancer that was supposed to be killing him, but he was in Foreknowledge-mode so he couldn't die, so the cancer ended up sort of buffing him instead. iirc Ellie's drugs are also to minimize the other symptoms.

The craziest part is that supplementary materials like audio dramas actually imply he didn't die in the end of Kasumi route.
Like, Beatrice states his soul isn't in Gladsheimr. So not only did he beat Wilhelm one-on-one with no real superpowers, he even walked away from that alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076670

Also, periodic reminder that Shirou is impotent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076163
>and now a sensory?
The Observer is not a sensory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076679
Yes but Shirou Yusa and Judas Strife are the sensories of The Observer/Naraka

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076704
Observers.
Are not.
Sensories.
It's kind of similar, but not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076706
Mind elaborating? I thought they were the Sensories of the Observer, but if you could clarify more on this it would be nice. Does this make them like... the Observers of the Observer (Naraka)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076706
Masada called them sesnories though. So they are, unless it was retconned lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076727

Looking into it a bit deeper, they're effectively the same since they serve a similar function; Sensories are capable of being independent enough from the God they're functioning that they're not so much manifestations of him as they are agents that (consciously or otherwise) enact that god's will. The Observers are the same, except they have certain particularities like being neutered by Naraka's love for Mithra as soon as they begin functioning as Observers, and being unable to sense his presence or influence (while most other Sensories usually gain some inkling after awakening to their true nature).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076745
Is Naraka the ultimate beta orbiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076748

I mean
he doesn't have a body anymore, so if he doesn't get to bone his waifu, his duplicates don't get to bone their waifus either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076753
I'm having doubts Naraka ever got to bone his waifu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076759

She murdered everyone else for the throne and you can see how horny she is, so he probably got some action if only because there was no one else around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076670
Where is this implication? Also is that really how his Foreknowledge "invincibility" works?
I thought it didn't actually do anything to help him survive, it's just that he feels like he's been in this lethal situation before, and that he's survived it.

>The craziest part is that supplementary materials like audio dramas actually imply he didn't die in the end of Kasumi route.
What the actual fuck? Doesn't Eli or the narration talk about him dying or something?

>>20076676
I recall this, when is it said?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076889
>I recall this, when is it said?
Ellie mentions it at some point (along the lines of "Maybe we'll solve your little man's problem one of these days"), and it's also mentioned in Kajiri when describing the observer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20074820
I think an important detail about him raising his taikyoku through the tumour also has to do with how his craving works.

Hajun's craving essentially annihilates things purely through rejection that comes about through his extreme self-centeredness. The tumour is a part of him, so when he focuses towards the tumour his is also continuously only focusing on himself and doesn't care to acknowledge anything else. This self-centered act feeds his craving infinitely.

This is also why the nuisance of having souls cling to his universe-body after taking the Throne doesn't feed him like the tumour does. It weakens him because it takes his focus away from himself(and the tumour).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076905
And it's also true for Judas, btw.

>>20076889

>Where is this implication? Also is that really how his Foreknowledge "invincibility" works?

He rather literally says that when he feels Foreknowledge, he can't die, no matter what happens. Like you see it in the anime, too; he threw himself into one crazy situation after another, even tried to shoot himself in the head, and he won't fucking die.

>What the actual fuck? Doesn't Eli or the narration talk about him dying or something?

Yep, which is what's really weird about it. It's mentioned in Beatrice radio.
https://youtu.be/2LljRdwugLc?t=210

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously though, Throne Shirou when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076949
Oh and also, because Foreknowledge is contagious, it also applies to Ellie and even to Wilhelm after he consumes Shirou; it's how he beat Schreiber.

Shirou's Foreknowledge gets described as cancerous cells, fitting given the shape his power ends up taking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076949
Even then, I still can't see his Foreknowledge mode as literally immortality stopping a terminal illness. I'm pretty sure it would've been more things going the "wrong way", like the gun jamming, rather then him somehow surviving a gunshot to the head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076973
That's actually funny, because I remember reading how some guy who had a brain tumor experienced constant deja vu after it was removed or some shit. Masada playing 5D chess

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076977
>Even then, I still can't see his Foreknowledge mode as literally immortality stopping a terminal illness.

That's the thing, it's not immortality stopping a terminal illness, it's the terminal illness putting him in a state that lets him keep up with the crazy stuff going on. He's still technically dying from the disease, he's just not dead yet, and likely never will die so long as he doesn't fulfill his function as Ren's apoptosis.

> Anonymous 10/16/18(Tue)12:50:09 No.20076977▶

>>20076949 (You)
Even then, I still can't see his Foreknowledge mode as literally immortality stopping a terminal illness. I'm pretty sure it would've been more things going the "wrong way", like the gun jamming, rather then him somehow surviving a gunshot to the head.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. But the idea is circumstances never let him die no matter what, and that's part of what Foreknowledge mode entails. Wilhelm can't manage to kill Shirou anymore than the gun or driving off a cliff or overdosing off drugs doesn't. No matter how he tries to kill himself, the die roll always ends up falling on the probability that Shirou lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076992
pardon, ignore the second quote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076977
You could think of it in a way that we only witness the timelines where he survives because he needs to drive both Snek's and Naraka's scenario. He's a pretty important piece in the grand scheme of things.

Dies can get pretty meta.
Snek is a stand-in for both the player and playwright. He writes the scenario and resets the game after every (undesirable) ending. He self-inserts in Ren, the protagonist and makes him go for his waifu's route.

Shirou is a shadow protag. He's twice as chosen as Ren because he's not only a piece in Snek's play but also Naraka's and he despises it even more than Ren. His plot armor is the thickest even without any kind of obvious power. Ren is often saved by the bell, but Shirou just powers through regardless just by being himself. As long as he's got a role to play, he can't exit the stage, much like Ren.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20076992
So the world is just rigging his rolls. Smh.

[Anonymous No.]

Pantheon's initial design reveal of the lad with the sword looks much better when they revealed Yoshiya. hell look at Ren's initial sprite when they introduced his design

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077296
But then you actually read Senshinkan and you find out he's one icey motherfucker.
http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/senshinkan/voice/ysy_sample03.mp3
http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/senshinkan/voice/ysy_sample04.mp3

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine the state of pantheon's memelist once it comes out. Especially considering the leaks saying that Marie and Isaak are really good.
>SSS tier: Spinne
>/ss/ tier: Maire, Isaak, Hajun

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077302
MC will be voiced by Yoshiya's seiyuu, it's only fair with jinron and the captain coming back. plus he's a really good fucking va

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077318
You're forgetting Ryuusui, who honestly does sound pretty broken even in Kajiri. I guess she's going to be the local Tamamo or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077353
Would have to be a S tier. Can't go ruining the joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077353
Ryuusui is /hentai/ tier though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077318
Cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077318
Why is Siegfried so high up? Last time I played FGO (early JP) he was garbage tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077660

Getting the equivalent of a mana burst makes him a bulky, decent AOE Saber, and dragon is a very common trait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077660
Upgrades.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder why Mithra didn't have any worshippers? Her law is genuinely a good one, especially compared to some of the other gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077856
The good guys:
>What the fuck why are we always losing our god is a retard
The bad guys:
>What the fuck why do people hate us and call us evil our god is a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077896
The bad guys usually win and should be happy with that, and the good guys will feel they're fighting for something important even if they lose. There must have been at least some times it went like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077896
This is why they all followed Muzan instead? Even the good guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077950
You should keep in mind that both sides also have to fight forever, which isn't really what anyone'd consider a good world.

Shut up Wilhelm I'm not talking to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077966
The good guys followed him because he was their leader who wanted a better world for them, while the bad guys probably recognized that his methods basically made him one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077950
>>20077966

It's also inherently foggy who 'the good guys' and 'the bad guys' are, given the good guys became the bad guys as soon as they won, and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077998
Since it's supposed to be dualistic, I'd assume it would just be universally accepted who the good people are. Like there would be a nation in the real world advocating for murder being legal fighting against one for it being illegal. They consensus just changes whenever one side wins.

[Anonymous No.]

>http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/diesirae_switch/special/scenario.html
Shouko-chan today, 1 day left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
It's Shokou, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078194
Choco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
That sounds like Rumi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
>that sudden Rindou

[Anonymous No.]

New charas relationships chart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078202
CHOCO MANDALA
YAOYOROZUUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
Eww

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078211
>all of mithra's arrows are "become my man"
OH NO NO NO
Looks like cat lady is different from her
>>20078185
I told you niggas she would be the funnyman. Wait for a good translation from zack since i'm a shit translator and terribly lazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
There is something strangely bewitching about Rumi trying to talk in ye olde japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078227
Well yeah, last day banner is the cat nee-san, I hope we'll get the MC with her too tomorrow like we got Rindou cameo today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20077660
At this point (in JP), while his Np effect is somewhat niche, his buffs are strong enough to outdamage any AoE Saber.

In terms of AoE and Single Target, Bbth him and Sigurd and the strongest sabers respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
AWAWA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
>lolibaba that actually talks like one

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078287
It's more like trying to sound important and failing at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
>苦しね苦しないぞ？ははははは
やれやれ MC has his work cut out for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078227
Who is zack?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078305
It's 苦しゅうない.

[Anonymous No.]

Shouko translated by Zack

"Ah... what...?
Ah, good morning to you.
Wait, what time is it?
Ah, I guess it doesn't really matter. Morning is whenever I wake up, after all.
Anyway, please bring my clothes. And did you heat up the water?
I mean a bath, you little fool, a bath. Today you may humbly and reverently scrub my back.
Wait... who are you?!
Are you some Shikigami Yakou or Ryuusui prepared?
Ah, what is that dull expression on your face?
If you are to be my vassal, you must have some vigor in your eyes! Vigor!
I am the greatest commander this world has ever known, after all, so you mustn't smear mud on your master's name.
Devote your life to being my playmate, who will entertain me forever more!
Heh heh heh... Is it not the greatest honor imaginable?
Ah, satisfactory! Ever so satisfactory!
FUHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Rindou: "Be quiet! If you won't act responsibly, I'll beat you senseless, you fool!"

"Aaaah! Y-Yes!! Forgive me!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078321
damn. gotta go back to my cards
and check my ears

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078324
I noticed that she outright calls Rindou "mother" at the end, I guess Zack ignored it because it sounded weird in english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078324
waifu material

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078185
>>20078324
https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1052218705449431041

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078324
Quite sure Rindou's saying 貴様[[ら]], so it's "You foolS."
>>20078334
All I'm hearing is
"は、はいぃ! ご、ごめんなのじゃー!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078334
Nope. He just misheard it.
It should be "Aaah! M-Mother!! Forgive me!!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078372
母上*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078372
She is saying 母上.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078383
>>20078385
Yeah, hearing it now. Disregard.

[Anonymous No.]

TL v2 by Zack, use it for the next bread

"Ah... what...?
Ah, good morning to you.
Wait, what time is it?
Ah, I guess it doesn't really matter. Morning is whenever I wake up, after all.
Anyway, bring my clothes. And did you heat up the water?
I mean a bath, you little fool, a bath. Today you may humbly and reverently scrub my back.
Wait... who are you?!
Are you some Shikigami Yakou or Ryuusui prepared?
Ah, what is that dull expression on your face?
If you are to be my vassal, you must have some vigor in your eyes! Vigor!
I am the greatest commander this world has ever known, after all, so you mustn't smear mud on your master's name.
Devote your life to being my playmate, who will entertain me forever more!
Heh heh heh... Is it not the greatest honor imaginable?
Ah, satisfactory! Ever so satisfactory!
FUHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

"Be quiet! If you won't act responsibly, I'll beat you senseless, you fool!"

"Aaaah! M-Mother!! Forgive me!!!"
RAW Paste Data

"Ah... what...?
Ah, good morning to you.
Wait, what time is it?
Ah, I guess it doesn't really matter. Morning is whenever I wake up, after all.
Anyway, bring my clothes. And did you heat up the water?
I mean a bath, you little fool, a bath. Today you may humbly and reverently scrub my back.
Wait... who are you?!
Are you some Shikigami Yakou or Ryuusui prepared?
Ah, what is that dull expression on your face?
If you are to be my vassal, you must have some vigor in your eyes! Vigor!
I am the greatest commander this world has ever known, after all, so you mustn't smear mud on your master's name.
Devote your life to being my playmate, who will entertain me forever more!
Heh heh heh... Is it not the greatest honor imaginable?
Ah, satisfactory! Ever so satisfactory!
FUHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

"Be quiet! If you won't act responsibly, I'll beat you senseless, you fool!"

"Aaaah! M-Mother!! Forgive me!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078324
Cute, I'm not sure if I like titty rea or her more

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>>20078372
But it makes no sense for Rindou to say "you fools", when she's screaming at Ammy and no one else. I mean, it's Ammy acting irresponsibly (which is what Rindou is complaining about) here. There's no other "fool", thus a plural makes no sense in context

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>>20078398
Maybe it's plural because of whoever Ammy was talking to before Rindou showed up? (i.e. the listener)

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>>20078404

Could be, but she's obv shouting at Ammy for laughing loudly like that and making a ruckus, so...

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>>20078398
Pinkie is probably talking to someone, maybe the MC who pops out of no where.
>Wait... who are you?!
>Are you some Shikigami Yakou or Ryuusui prepared?
>Ah, what is that dull expression on your face?
Rindou most defiantly said 貴様ら.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078426
Maybe MC is going to end representing Susanoo.

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>still on page 9
Jesus, /jp/ is slower than usual today.

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>>20078437
>amaterasu is a bratty funny man with no grace
>susanoo is going to end up being a 真面目 straightman
wow. masada really does like subverting shit doesn't he?

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>>20078426
Yes, but Rindou should have no problem with the listener. It was Ammy acting irresponsibly and being loud. The rest of Rindou's sentece is specific for Ammy and a reaction her loud laugh and irresponsible behavior.
There's no indication the listener was doing anything (beyond being there and listening to Ammy) that would piss off Rindou or make her insult the listener alongside Ammy, so the plural still feels weird in context

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>>20078451
I mean he did turn a Lucifer expy into a Lawfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078456
It's not unusual for people to get shit from people just for being at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and with the wrong people.

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>Ammy is /our girl/

based

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078472

Is is really that important if she's shouting at both of them or just at Ammy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078324
>Morning is whenever I wake up, after all
Heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078456
she was probably just seething bro. maybe she was on her period and habaki already did something to piss her off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078451
He already called Yomi a 真面目 girl yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078481
>Ammy is /our girl/
Hell no.

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>>20078498
I meant a Yoshiya kind of 真面目. As in phsycially and verbally abuses his dumbass friends.
imagine mc going off on any of the gods in a similar fashion to when Yoshiya goes off on Harumitsu or Rinko
>>20078519
Tsuki and Ammy are mine, I call dibs. You faggots can have Mithra if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078519
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078533
I'll have all three, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078547
>wanting anything to do with the gigathot

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>>20078567
>lovers
>when Ren dumps her for Rea whenever possible
>Marie ever really "loving" someone
Hilarious.

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>>20078567
>Thinks he's the best and was killed by
This is kind of morbid and cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078574
Marie and Ren here are pulled from after Marie route, but before KKK. Ren doesn't remember anything from his time as Yato

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>>20078574

While it's not no surprise, damn is it obvious you haven't read Kajiri.

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I've gotta go to work. Whoever makes the next thread, please include the Akebono no Hikari scans in the news section of the OP. >>20074192
Don't forget to chance the countdown to 1 day left.

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>>20078592
>"but before KKK" implying what I said is true by KKK
>damn is it obvious you haven't read Kajiri.
Who was is in the right?

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Marie is a whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078634

The thing is Yato is def in love with Marie. You do have Rea there too, who despite loving him can never replace her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078634
This.

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>>20078634
I didn't imply what you said is true by KKK (I haven't read it myself. Not that I need to to claim Pantheon Ren and Marie are lovers, since they're pulled from before KKK). I just said you can't use that KKK image of Ren/Rea with 2 of KKK's chars on the school to say Ren doesn't really love Marie, because this Ren isn't the Ren from the 7th heaven who was with Rea for some reason or another in that image, and people love to meme as "Ren dumping Marie". But I can't comment because I lack context

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078634
Obviously the guy in the jabroni outfit was in the wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078659
>this Ren isn't the Ren from the 7th heaven who was with Rea for some reason or another in that image, and people love to meme as "Ren dumping Marie"

You can p.much assume it's the same Ren from Rea route's epilogue, i.e. Ren as a new person in the new world and free of Merc's influence.

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>>20078718
Then, he's not the Ren who met and had a relationship with Marie. Thus, saying Pantheon Ren doesn't love Marie or would dump her for Rea is stupid.
Thanks for the context, though

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>>20078718
Not really. Post-KKK Ren was Yatou in the same way Rea Epilogue Ren was Rea route's Ren.

..and Yatou is the Ren from Marie route.

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>>20078718
The context of the pic is that Habaki and co visit Ren and co in the Marie world afterlife during the day of their wedding. However, both Ren and Rea are aware that Ren is in love with someone else, but they passed away.

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>>20078765

Yes? How does that contradict what I said?

>>20078778

I know.

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>>20078840
Because post kkk Ren is from Marie route Ren, not Rea route Ren. The fact that Ren still loves Marie despite not remembering her disproves your claim that Ren would dump Marie for Rea is pretty shallow if Rea needs the both of them to be in the afterlife with no memories of Marie to have a chance with Ren.

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>>20078778
>marry someone without anything pressuring you to
>but you're in love with someone else
How does that work?
>but they passed away
People usually get heartbroken, not marry someone else for shit and giggles.

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>>20078863

Where did I make that claim?

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>>20078874

>People usually get heartbroken, not marry someone else for shit and giggles.

Right, no one ever remarried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078887
Well then they're not in love with the dead one but found new love with the person they marry. No?

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>>20078876
Your claim was that Ren would dump Marie for Rea at ANY given moment where it’s not true.>>20078574
Ren is faithful to his lover, even when she was dead in KKK he still didn’t move on to Rea UNTIL the very end of KKK in the afterlife with no memories. Remarrying doesn’t lessen Ren’s love for Marie. Ren is just following his ideals to leave the dead alone because it’s not healthy to be stuck in the past.

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>>20078905

>>20078887
is not >>20078574 (me)

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>>20078921
Thai still doesn’t disprove me of anything. Don’t try to slander Ren’s loyalty and moving on in love to be that shallow. Of course Ren was heartbroken the entire time, why do you think he was nuclear as Yato in the first place? He basically ignored Rea for 8000 years in despair.

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>>20078840
>You can p.much assume it's the same Ren from Rea route's epilogue

Did you even read what you wrote ?
Even if you wrote that wrong and the main point is 'Ren as a new person in a new world' that would be even worse. Marie's Law makes people at least have a vague sense of their past lives so that their souls could move forward. Post-KKK Ren was Yatou, his soul is building forwards from that. Post-Rea Ren was building from Rea route Ren. They -did not- return to zero.

You're just adding bullshit complications to the argument.

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>>20078227
>Looks like cat lady is different from her
I mean, it's a fan-made chart anyways, you shouldn't take it as a fact.

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Can't wait to see interaction of gods with each other
complete slutfest...

>Reinhard: AISHITERU, SHINGA
>Mithra: AISHITERU, SHURADO
>Both: AISHITERU, SETSUNA
>Ren: ...I hate both of you.
>Ren: Leave my waifu alone Big snek!
~Muzan goes THOT Patrol mode~
>Snek keeps stalking Marie
>Reinhard and Mithra fuck each other
>while Marie holds them in her loving embrace
>Satanel visibly disgusted with their stupidity
>Big Snek lays there on the ground, convulsing in a puddle of his own cum

[Anonymous No.]

>Shouko is pretty much similar to Kokoro
Can't wait for her to try and look menacing only to fall miserable.

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>>20078991

They're not the same person, but they're very similar in the sense that they're a Ren who was born naturally, as opposed to Ren in the end of Marie's route, who literally stayed the same after beating Reinhard, and wondered the world as he stopped aging.

>Post-Rea Ren was building from Rea route Ren

Post-Rea route Ren is a descendant of Lotus and is essentially his own person who can be seen as independent from the Ren who fought Reinhard and Mercurius.
Ren can't exist in a universe Mercurius doesn't exist in, and the only reason he's still alive in Marie's epilogue is because Mercurius was never killed, merely exiled. Without Merc, Ren fades into nothingness. Marie plays around that by creating a circumstance where "Ren" could be born. It's safe to assume Akebono no Hikari is based on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079021
>Hajun in the background repeatedly killing himself only for Nakara to revive him

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>>20079055
Except Ren is completely fine even with Merc dead, he’s completely fine, divine and all even when Merc dies to Hajun. And before someone brings up Ren eating Merc, that’s just a meme here with no confirmations and the snakes surrounding Yato could be an illusion together with the EE because of their view of the Tenmas being evil. Yato’s Seqeure Naturaem is also complete with a different chant.

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>>20078460
Lucifer fed Eve the fruit of knowledge in Paradise Lost, so why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079055
But nigga, Rea epilogue Ren literally remembers the joke from the previous world before the reset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079089

Explain him using Disce Libens on Habaki then.

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>>20079125

Fundamentally they share the same soul, but it's still a different person who led a different life. He's the same at the core but didn't live through all the shit Ren did.

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>>20079138
He doesn’t, that was sequere naturaem. There was someone who chant posted it and the lyrics are very different compared to Merc’s. Merc was more “follow nature” while Yato’s was “reach the stars”

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079160
Snek: Ira furor brevis est. Sequere Naturam
Yato: sic itur ad astra. Sequere Naturam

[Anonymous No.]

>Satanael
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuyov5vbTAo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079125
So Ren did really dump Marie for Rea.

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>>20079089
>because of their view of the Tenmas being evil

Except the Tenma's appearances actually are accurate. Ryuumei sees them for what they are, clinging to Yatou's body, in the end of her side story. In which case there's no reason to assume Yato's appearence is any less accurate.

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>>20079233
Given the eccentric personalities involved, it'd be a miracle to actually get them to cooperate.

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>>20079288
I thought in ryuumei side story, she saw sukuna initially, but when she regained her memories of eleanore, she saw his true form as Shirou the moment after and conversed with him, reaffirming what her mission was, to destroy Hajun from the inside of his world.

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>>20079319
In addition, the EE view of the tenmas having warped voices was because of their alien existence as previous existences of an earlier heaven just like how no one can comprehend Merc’s dead langauge he uses for his chants.

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>>20079331
Does that explain Karl making the Nazis use Jewish words?

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>>20079342
The two languages could be different, the text emphasizes how alien Merc’s langauge is compared to everyone. An previous post from some time says that in Hajun’s world nobody could hear the tenma’s voices clearly despite both sides speaking Japanese. They explained it as the lack of understanding and rejection towards an creature from a past heaven.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079342
These words were used back in ParaLost, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079331
No, he just wants to talk in gratuitous latin, through a serpentine baritone.

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>>20079287
Nope. Because post KKK, Marie is permadead. Rea is just his 2nd choice after Marie is dead and after thousands of years of mourning and rage over Marie's death
In Rea route, theres's no dumping, because Ren fell for Rea there.

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>Ammy loves baths because Hajun is associated with dirt, shit and everything unclean
DEEPEST LORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079399
Wait so Marie's so dead she doesn't even exist in the afterlife? Fucking hell Masada

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079572
No one who gets Hajun'd can come back, no matter what (except in Pantheon's case, although that's probably due to recreating them rather than reviving them).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079572
METSUJIN MESSOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079538
>Hajun is associated with dirt
>His Law is basically cleaning everything around him
>Satanel's copy Law is a plague
>His Law is perfect order

[Anonymous No.]

>>20078567
>Bosom friends
They are actually gay for each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>20079160
Mercurius
>"Ira furor brevis est - Sequere Naturam"
"Anger is a brief madness - Follow Nature"

Ren/Yato
>"Sic itur ad astra - Sequere Naturam"
"Thus people head towards the stars - Follow Nature"

It was pretty much like that, yes. But naturally Ren has no means whatsoever to use any of Snek's big stuff, all of his attacks come from his Acta Est Fabula, and I doubt Yato's Also Sprach Zarathustra could have copied a entire different law from someone who wasn't even on his Legion.
Asides of Ren stating multiple times that his divinity came from Merc's connection to him, and he was already disappearing in the aftermath of the Three Colors clash when Mercurius and Reinhard were dancing with Rea and Marie at the center of the universe before finally disappearing, sure he was going to be reborn, but the 'gift' Mercurius gave him would be forever gone as he (Merc) died for good at the end of Rea's route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20068750
More like Kiara I feel like

[Anonymous No.]

>>20080056
Guess we'll have to settle with waiting for Masada to tell us why Yato has Sequere Naturam and how he survived despite Merc being dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20080139
Time stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>20080139
He permafrosted everything and doesn't his time armor or whatever make his person invulnerable to any alterations?

[Anonymous No.]

why is /jp/ so slow today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20080139
Maybe it's because Yato fully embraced the Mercurius blood in him instead of rejecting it so he didn't get deleted after Merc died. That or maybe it's because Yato was already in a dying state and Tokoyo used her Taikyoku to resurrect him a completely new being to avoid the erasure.

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There was a line that explained the bizarre combined appearances of the tenmas that went something like "They are put together from the broken shards, vital parts missing, replaced by one another. Because when something important is gone, it can never come back". Basically, Ren's beliefs and Hajun's attack prevented him from bringing them back in perfectly good shape, so I assumed it was something like that with Yato himself. As in, he had to take some parts from Merc (whatever it is that he put inside him) and use them to give himself form.

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>>20080056
>and he was already disappearing in the aftermath of the Three Colors clash when Mercurius and Reinhard were dancing with Rea and Marie at the center of the universe before finally disappearing
the ballroom scene doesn't happen in the True ending

[Anonymous No.]

We've spent an eternity on page 9. Should I bake now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20080939
>>20080939
>>20080939
Fuck it, let's go.