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This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, visual novels, light novels, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in the above or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Old guide site below.
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Last thread: >>20016915

>> No.20028091
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give up already

>> No.20028111
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>と思う

>> No.20028138

>>20028091

I gave up before I even began.

>> No.20028153

>>20028091
...and waste the year of work I already did?

>> No.20028180

>>20028038
This is such a beautiful allegory. He really is the Steve Jobs of Japanese learning.

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>> No.20028200

>>20028111
is this the nip equivalent of "makes you think"

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>>20028194

>> No.20028244

Imagine how much easier all of this would be if everything had furigana

>> No.20028246

>>20028180
Hopefully he dies of cancer too.

>> No.20028247

>>20028246
chuckled

>> No.20028249

>>20028244
furigana is gross

>> No.20028251

>>20028038
I'm tired. I want to learn moon for real. Tried it a couple of times before, but dropped it because well it's fucking hard
but not anymore. I'm tired.
I know that I'll suffer a lot learning it, as I'm not a kid picking up a language (it's better to study stuff when you're a kid). I didn't learn my english casually by saying "uh I'll try reading English" one morning - no, I consumed English stuff ever since I have memory (music, programs, films, artists, internet, etc)

I want to forget all the adversities mentioned above (the part that tells that I am late) for a second, and focus, focus for once and for real. How or where do I start? only know hiraganas...
Kanjis are horrible - how do I face them? I think I remember someone saying something like "learn kanas first, it'll be easier that way"

>> No.20028258

>>20028244
Imagine how nice it would be if you could read the kanji. Instant extraction of a total root idea in a single character.

>> No.20028263

>>20028251
Go hard until you burn yourself out, then pick up meditating and keep going. It's only a few years of your life to gain access to a whole nother world.

>> No.20028273

>> 20028263
yeah but where or how
I did not follow any recipe to learn English, it just simply came naturally. How can I compete with that?

>> No.20028278

>>20028273
Dammit >>20028263

>> No.20028280

Are there any kanji decks out there which are ordered based on visual similarity? So that you can memorize ~5-10 similar-looking kanji around the same time, in order to not visually confuse them later?

Alternatively, is there a list/resource of the jouyou or JLPT kanji sorted/grouped by radicals like this so I could potentially reference it to reorder the cards in another kanji deck?

>> No.20028290

>>20028251
Kanjis aren't really that bad. Just think of it like that. They're pretty and they're kind of like hieroglyphs and you'll learn them one by one, eventually. Hell I don't even study them but I like learning the occasional kanji. If you approach learning them to "I want to topple down this entire brickwall!" instead of just quietly staring at the patterns and cracks on each individual brick with awe then you're just green, son.

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>>20028251
I probably should, i'm too lazy for this, but i can't.

>> No.20028294

>>20028251
if you're already making excuses just give up
if you actually cared about learning japanese you'd just do it

>> No.20028297

>>20028280
RTK

>> No.20028299

>>20028291

>>20028091
Fuck i misquoted

>> No.20028315

>>20028294
What an ass, no one is allowed to be frustrated about anything they are studying, right? do I have to throw my purposes and interests away??

there'll always be rocks in the path. get back to earth dude

>> No.20028341

>>20028297
Wow. This is my first time glancing at the RKT ordering... I'm kind of a moron for not noticing this sooner (because I learned the kangxi radicals and disliked some RTK mnemonics I saw, I was shying away RTK). Thanks!

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i'm fucking PISSED

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rkt indeed

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>> No.20028473

>>20028251
>"learn kanas first, it'll be easier that way"
radicals*, it wasn't kamas

>> No.20028555 [DELETED] 

learn that rome wasnt built in a day and just focus on having fun : )

the worst thing you can do is spend a whole bunch of time not having fun and look back on it and go man i wish i spent that time having fun

>> No.20028569

>>20028555

this is some sagely wisdom that should be applied to all endeavours

>> No.20028694

>>20028555
Stone

>> No.20028848

>私は弟に部屋の掃除をさせた
Why is room and clean connected by the の particle?

>> No.20028859

にほんを

だいじにしてる?

>> No.20028889

>>20028555
>the worst thing you can do is spend a whole bunch of time not having fun and look back on it and go man i wish i spent that time having fun
Are you having fun in DJT?

>> No.20028899

Studying while hyped on caffeine playing trap rap music late a night creates a super kind of focus for me. Other wise I couldn't get through this shit. Do you guys get tired after studying for a short time? For example if I study for two hours with nothing I'll get sleepy and bored but playing music I'm able to continue for a few more hours.

>> No.20028945

If studying isn't a fun activity for you then you will never make it to fluency. Every new word learned should be enough stimulation to keep you going.

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>>20028889
of course

some times are more fun than others but theyre all fun : )

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>>20028848
>私は

>> No.20028963

>>20028945
you dont have to study at all to make it to fluency and frankly you shouldnt

save the studying for after youre fluent imo

>> No.20028970

>>20028200
考えさせるね

>> No.20028978

>>20028899
I just drill vocab at work (desk job with lots of boring downtime) and then come home and play ゼルダの伝説 and watch dramas.

If it's boring, do it at a time that's already boring so you aren't wasting it.

>> No.20029015

>>20028959
That sentence was copied from an N4 test thing. I was wondering why the particles were like that because I've never seen them used that way.

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>>20028200
>>20028970

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Can anyone translate this porn dialog?
Image artist: 8 (yamalu)

>> No.20029102

>>20028361
lol whoops!

>> No.20029106

>>20028848
you can turn 掃除 into a verb by combining it with させた and write it as 部屋を掃除させた.
but since the sentece seperated 掃除 and させた by putting a particle inbetween them, that leaves 掃除 as a noun. and combining noun with noun requires the の particle.

>> No.20029121

>>20029090
Read the OP you stupid cunt.

>> No.20029140

>>20029121
alright, I'll just go to reddit then

>> No.20029187

>>20028361
https://my.mixtape.moe/tafndk.apkg

>> No.20029197

whats a good vocab deck?

>> No.20029199

>>20029197
Make one, you lazy bastard.

>> No.20029214
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>>20029197
ゼルダの伝説をマインする

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>>20029199
dont wanna too lazy

>>20029214
That seems like a pretty slow way to learn

>> No.20029267

>>20029106
Thanks. Makes sense. But I don't know what the point of structuring a sentence like this is, because there's no need for 2 nouns like that as far as I can tell.

>> No.20029290

>>20029261
If your base vocab is already good, it's a nice way to pick up on interesting words like 苦悩、血塗る、and 屍 (thanks 闇の神殿)

>> No.20029297

>>20029051
考えさせるって。。。その言葉選択がメッチャメッチャ気になるなぁ

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yoshi time for reading

>> No.20029379

>>20029318
>よ~し!読みのときだぞ!
次回は日本語で投稿してください

>> No.20029394

>>20029379
でもこのスレは日本語を知らない人だらけだよ

>> No.20029398

>>20029379
いやそんな拙い日本語じゃ英語の方がずっとましじゃん

>> No.20029421

>>20029394
良くなることは欲しければ日本語で投稿しなければだめと思うよ

>> No.20029432

>>20029421
恥を知れよ

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This is going to sound weird but I fucking love Kanji and wish Chinese characters or something like it could be used as a writing system in English. Since Japanese works with such a limited sound inventory, I don't see how it would be possible for me to learn the language without them; sounds would get mixed up too easily. I've definitely neglected grammar and listening compared to reading and making/studying Kanji flashcards, but I consider the former to be issues I can resolve quickly once a certain level of literacy is attained. I should be done with sixth grade and the respective flashcards by the end of November, and at that time I'll share a link to them in case anyone is interested. Here's a pretty representative example of how I've chosen to study.

>> No.20029456

>>20029434
How it works is, most people (Japanese natives) spend long enough knowing 1 "version" of a homophone long enough that they can easy "add" new meanings to it when they have to learn a new one.

As we are trying to cram an 18-30 year experience into 3 years or less, we don't get the benefit of such things.

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What are some words you just can't remember? For me it's 構成、構造、制度、建設
I have no idea how many times I've saved them from leech by lying to anki.

>> No.20029461

>>20029457
I don't have too many of those un-memorable words because I mostly read, vidya, and listen to interesting things.

>> No.20029468

>>20029457
I finally remembered 制度 a few days ago and it felt really nice

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>>20029461
Good for you anon I feel happy for you. I'm too lazy to do any of them.

>> No.20029485

>>20029457
Pretty much everything related to politics and shit I don't care about

>> No.20029500

>>20029434
english already uses the closest thing there is to hanzi without being hanzi, morphophonemic orthography

>> No.20029535

1 month fluency incoming screen cap this

>> No.20029539

>>20029500
Pretty much this, if you're learning a "popular" language you're gonna have a bad time. All the best ones (English, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese) have SOME part of it that makes it fucking insanely difficult and you just gotta deal with it. For English, it's the fact that we stole/borrowed from basically every language and you have no real way of telling what roots are being used at any given time for any given word.

The only thing we really have going for us is that we have lots of different sounding LONG words rather than a shit ton of short ones that sound similar, but I can't even decide which option is worse between the two desu.

>> No.20029577

>>20029197
One you make yourself, and spend as little time on making as possible.

>> No.20029581

>>20029434
>Since Japanese works with such a limited sound inventory, I don't see how it would be possible for me to learn the language without them; sounds would get mixed up too easily
It's called "spaces". Spoken Japanese doesn't have kanji.

>> No.20029585

>>20029581
speaking isn't learning

>> No.20029587

>>20029585
>Being this NPC

>> No.20029590

>>20029585
You do realize people can listen to spoken Japanese, right? You do consider listening to be learning, right?

>> No.20029597

>>20029539
>and you have no real way of telling what roots are being used at any given time for any given word.
This really does suck. Something I've appreciated about Japanese from the beginning has been the fact that it's really easy to tell why most words mean what they do based on how they're written.

>> No.20029683

>When you look up a a kanji and see it only has one reading
It’s almost like I’m learning a writing system for actual human beings.

>> No.20029695

God the worst feeling ever is when you first make a jump to harder material and you understand nothing for the first several days.

>> No.20029738

Is there much difference between the DJTs here and the ones on /int/? Is there any reason there are two different threads across two boards?

>> No.20029745

How can you tell if 館 is kan or yakata? Can somebody post an example sentence with the latter?

>> No.20029783

>>20029738
/int/djt reads japanese news and /jp/djt reads novels for teenagers.

>> No.20029788

>>20029783
What if you read novels for adults?

>> No.20029802

>>20029788
Then you can fuck right off.

>> No.20029806

>>20029788
ヨスガノソラ is not for adults just because it's 18+.

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>> No.20029856

>>20029788
light novels are for adults

>> No.20029858

>>20029738
>>20029783
This KIND OF but also /int/ is generally nicer because flags make some dicks not anonymous since they're the only ones from their country (fuck Australia).
/int/ does read novels though, they even have a weekly book club now where they all read a chapter of the same book then talk about it on the weekend. They have a beginner group and an intermediate group.
/int/ is also dead.

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Give up guys, you'll never learn Japanese.

>> No.20029863

>>20029745
単独のときは「やかた」
「~~の館」のときも「やかた」
それ以外のとき(熟語など)は、99%「かん」

>> No.20029865

>>20029861
I'm a Dutch native too. I guess it truly is impossible for me to learn Japanese. Matta ne

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>>20029858
Australian here, you're welcome.

>> No.20029900

>>20029861
To understand 5% you only need to watch like one anime

>> No.20029905

>>20029863
そっか
じゃあ『森の館』の場合も『やかた』でしょう

>> No.20029926

>>20029905
そうです。もりのやかた とよみます。
e.g. 恐怖の館(きょうふのやかた)、呪いの館(のろいのやかた)
その逆(「かん」とよむ言葉)は、
e.g.
館長かんちょう
会館かいかん
開館かいかん
休館きゅうかん
旧館きゅうかん
公館こうかん
商館しょうかん
全館ぜんかん
廃館はいかん
閉館へいかん
別館べっかん
本館ほんかん
洋館ようかん
旅館りょかん
公民館こうみんかん
水族館すいぞくかん
体育館たいいくかん
大使館たいしかん
図書館としょかん
二番館にばんかん
博物館はくぶつかん
美術館びじゅつかん
領事館りょうじかん
etc.

>> No.20029936

>>20029861
>Studying 2 languages at once
>2 hours
>understands only the particles (5%)
>Doesn't understand that Spanish and English share a metric shit ton of vocab

>> No.20029937

>>20029861
>I opened a Japanese textbook that only uses romaji once every month for the past 4 years and I have been reading it for at least two hours every day (20 minutes if you subtract all the distractions) for the last couple of months and why can't I read manga? Clearly it's Japanese being too hard

>> No.20029980

I tried rereading yotsuba and all the kana is too tiring so i cant be bothered. Did i make it?

>> No.20029985

>>20029980
You will never learn Japanese. Just give up.

>> No.20030043

>>20029863
おやかた!そらからおんなのこが!

>> No.20030046

>>20029267
Cleaning of room

>> No.20030070

>>20029457
Each of the ones you mentioned and I'm almost through Core6K

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Started studying after a 5~ year break. Tried wanikani but it was meh. Decide to give anki a shot finally, after lurking here for years on and off.
This is exactly what I wanted. Thank you DJT.

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>>20029535

>> No.20030166

>>20030090
>wanikani
Poor kid. I've been taking Japanese at uni, and they keep telling people to go there.

>> No.20030213

>tfw forgot to do the last 100 reviews yesterday

>> No.20030215

>>20030166
I could see some people liking it, but, it makes me itchy. Took up to JP 300 at uni and am currently reading NHKにようこそ! without obnoxious amounts of jisho usage, which is surprising to me.

>> No.20030281

>>20029980
Manga isn't reading though.

>> No.20030350

>>20029457
That's why core is shit. You won't remember words like that unless you see them a lot in native material. Drilliing them is worthless and a waste of time.

>> No.20030392

>>20029861
He claims to have studied for 3000+ hours and still can't understand more than 5% of manga. You'd think they'd at least choose a realistic number if they're not going to be honest with themselves.

>> No.20030394

10000 hours of anime or your gay

>> No.20030411

>羨む marked as leech
forgive me zyzz. im not going to make it

>> No.20030413

I can stop watching anime after I've done 10000 right?

>> No.20030433

what kind of idiot would stop watching anime

>> No.20030435

>>20030411
うらやむ?

よくわかんない

>> No.20030445

the number of anime you can watch is limited

>> No.20030459

has no bearing on anything

>> No.20030489

I'm skipping Yotsuba and going straight to 泉 鏡花.

>> No.20030510

as always never forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rGkVcnIuj0

>> No.20030554

>started doing kanji last month
>Memorized 200 something kanji with 90% accuracy
>Tries to write sentences with kanji
>Can't
How is learning how to read doesn't also give you the ability to write? Every other language is fairly easy even with archaic letters (like Arabic or Cyrillic), but with kanji if I want to learn both writing and reading I better start by writing.
Can anyone give me pointers or do I just have to do it old school? (e.g. writing an entire page of it)

>> No.20030617

>>20029861
I can't imagine how easy Spanish would be after learning Japanese.

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>はなこはリア充をうらやんでいる

こうかな?

>> No.20030747

Please help me for I am clinically retarded.
I keep fucking up the same few easy cards for the past 5 months. It's like my brain has set up a mental barrier against them.

>> No.20030803

>>20030617
Here's how I think it'll go

>finally "finish" learning Japanese
>get bored and decide to keep learning languages afterwards because addicted to the grind
>Progress would be about 4x faster because meaningful reading would be possible at the 2 month mark
>only need to dedicate like 1/4 the Anki time to it, can just read and listen the rest because easy peasy
>Done with Spanish in a year
>decide to do French next
>done in a year or less
>decide to do German
>actually have to think for once because of fucked up German grammar, still only takes like a year tho

Basically if you can do Japanese, there's no real excuse for NOT becoming a polygot because anything you do afterwards will seem effortless.

>> No.20030854

>nothing on audiobooks
ummm DJTbabs??

>> No.20030864

>>20030854
https://gist.github.com/askoufis/e67e637918e5b16d6f4a4da6b0bbe74d

>> No.20030883

>>20030554
don't output till you can input fluently

>> No.20030892

>>20030883
>input fluently
so never?

>> No.20030928

how long have you been "studying" "**japanese":*"* and how much of this do you understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zriXZMAqsg

fluent inputters output wanted

>> No.20030943

native eigo speakers cant even understand chop suey

>> No.20030944

i need some help. i did RTK and i just started doing vocab this week and it's really easy for me to recall the reading and meaning of new words i'm learning. what do i do?

>> No.20030974

>>20030943
has nothing to do with anything and chop suey is easy to understand ?

>> No.20030982

so im not sure if you were agreeing with me and just making an unrelated commentary towards people generally being retarded or

>> No.20031035

so clingy

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What's the correct kanji for bukkake, like the porn? Is it ぶっかけ or is that wrong?

>> No.20031066

>>20031046
私はゲイ, or alternatively, 中出しの喜び

>> No.20031075

>>20031046
probably in katakana like most dirty and coloquial stuff

>> No.20031087

>>20031046
打っ掛け

>> No.20031106

being able to recall how kana look (as opposed to merely recognizing them) makes it much easier to recall words for me. is this normal?

>> No.20031109

>>20029858
There are maybe 3 aussies on the /int/ thread and one of them is the maintainer of the new guide site. What's wrong with them?

>> No.20031125

>>20031109
Jamal is an Australian.

>> No.20031158

>>20031046
ぶっかけ

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huh, that's mighty clever actually

>> No.20031371

>>20031346
So I'm honorary nip if I understand that?

>> No.20031477

実は私はゲイ

>> No.20031534

>>20029856
smuganimegirl.jpg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-VU9oK2Yo

>> No.20031627

oh whoops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGZ94FIqKh0

>> No.20031648

>>20031627
>20 year old woman
>already looks おばさん as fuck

Jesus christ

>> No.20031661

>>20031648
don't talk shit about her

>> No.20031665

put your trip on jamal

>> No.20031667

>>20031648
Yeah she should probably stop snorting so much cocaine

>> No.20031691

>>20030394
It's really old method you got there.
You need to do 10000 hours of meditation or you can't learn japanese.

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i dont post kpop trash theres just a rise of my homies posting my pics like the venus angelic 1

>>20031691
dont worry were gucci there mate

>> No.20031746

>>20031066
>>20031087
>>20031158
>three different answers
Nani do I write on my sister's shirt?

>> No.20031753

>>20031746
The second and third ones are trolls, please ignore them.

>> No.20031768

>>20031746
if youre making a t shirt for your sister i suggest writing av女優 on it she can wear it proudly around town

>> No.20031801

>>20031735
Yeah, I just really liked that picture and decided to avatarfag for whenever I post her new videos
sorrz

>> No.20031809

>>20031801
its all yours dude i do it for my doggs

>> No.20031825

>>20030554
There is no need to write it over and over. I'm learning the kanji in KKLC order and I just write it once every time the card comes up. My retention is usually between 70% and 80%.

>> No.20031843
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>>20031809
Thanks

>> No.20032044

センパイは、自分で自分のこと、上手く笑えてないって思ってたかも知れませんけど
I didn't think that senpai can't answer properly about me but
Is this a decent enough translation?

>> No.20032049

>>20032044
No.

>> No.20032060

>>20032044
Yes.

>> No.20032062

>>20032044
Where did you even get that "answer" from? Do N3-kuns have some kind of psychic power or something?

>> No.20032076

>>20032044
looks like youre ready to start scanlating

>> No.20032084

>>20032062
自分で自分のこと
by oneself, about me/about oneself

not answer skillfully って思ってた

I look forward to finding out the correct translation

>> No.20032180

kitsunekko is down and I need RAW subs. how?

>> No.20032183

>>20032180
It's not an acronym.

>> No.20032238

readily
available
worldwide

>> No.20032291

>kitsunekko is down
WHAT.

Not for good I hope. I was just thinking of writing an automatic scraper for it last week to make sure we had backups.

>> No.20032425

anon what are the lyrics to the chorus of this song, if your Japanese is really as good as you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2G3YVCPq88

>> No.20032599

>>20031753
But the first one says "I'm gay"

>>20031768
Actress? Does it mean pornstar?

>> No.20032697

Are there any LN's with furigana? If not, is there some kind of software that takes whatever format it needs and adds it?
Also, I got some manga raws that aren't in the library, where can I send them to get them added? The raws in question would be for 古見さんはコミュ症です。Vol. 1 through 9.
I also recommend it to beginners, the sentences use proper grammar and are mostly slang free. Also most chapters are very short, meaning that it's easy to pick up even if you don't have much time and read a chapter real quick.

>> No.20032703

>>20032180
raw subs is an oxymoron. Just watch raw like all the other dekirus. Do you really think Japanese watch anime with nip subs?

>> No.20032723

>>20032697
>Are there any LN's with furigana? If not, is there some kind of software that takes whatever format it needs and adds it?
Any automatic furigana software is bound to have a lot of misses. That said I'm a big proponent of reading in a web browser and using yomichan/rikai[tachi].

There are a bunch of novels in html format in the CoR. Or buy epubs/kindle books and convert them to html with calibre and share them here.

>> No.20032733

>>20032044
>センパイは、自分で自分のこと、上手く笑えてないって思ってたかも知れませんけど
Though senpai might have thought that he was the person who couldn't smile well,
or if Senpai is at that place,
Though you might have thought that you were the person who couldn't smile well,

>> No.20032754

i've been trying to pronounce いるのだ (tone from 降りるのだ), and my tongue just fucking explodes at the end every time. do i just have to keep saying 降りるのだ like an idiot until i get better at it, or is there some sort of tongue twister specifically for this kind of sound?

>> No.20032762

>>20032754
don't bother with pronunciation unless you have a genuine japanese person to correct you.

>> No.20032788

>>20032762
that has nothing to do with this. it's just a matter of me actually being able to pronounce りるの without slurring.

>> No.20032814

today i somehow managed to add 9 new words to my mining deck starting with a かん reading

finishing my new cards took forever and the worst part is i have to do it again tomorrow

thanks for reading my blog

>> No.20032834

>>20032180
Xavier's Retimed JP Sub Pack torrent

don't fall for the raw anime meme, get your listening comprehension from audiobooks and podcasts instead

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My strategy for learning for learning japanese is to do the opposite of what nuke does.

I am sad to have to delete zero no tsukaima off my kindle. 残念

>> No.20032907

>>20032880
i wonder how nuke-kun feels about his meme status

>> No.20032921

from what I read on Twitter it appears that Matt made a poll on his Discord concerning whether to shut the server or not
I think the server will be wiped out, so he's too lazy to even keep that LMAO

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>> No.20032932

weeb aids ftw

>> No.20032966

how do I extract kanji from manga

>> No.20032976

by reading it

>> No.20032981

>>20032880
he's not actually reading it he's listening to the audiobook and using the text as subs so reading it is technically the opposite

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>>20032981
I mean anything that fat disgusting white trash comes close to should be burned with fire.

>> No.20032992

itd be sick if nuke chans inner otaku awakened soon

its the only way hes gonna make it

>> No.20032997

nuke is white but i dont think hes white trash

>> No.20033000

hey don't bully nuke

he means well

>> No.20033025

俺から視線を外らしたまま

confused by the 外ら here, is it saying something like any other place? So whole sentence would be "While keeping her gaze anywhere from me"

>> No.20033031

>>20033025
It's probably そらす with a non-standard kanji.

>> No.20033032

>>20032976
ok, while im at it i have about 500 cards in my deck and its been nearly half a year. should i reset the deck?

>> No.20033042

delete your idiot flashcards and watch creamy mami

>> No.20033045

>>20033031
oh thanks, makes sense

>> No.20033221

僕は...いったい何の為に生きているんだ...

>> No.20033264

>>20028038
I'm trying to use Yomichan+Kenkyusha, but it seems to be missing some kanji. I thought this is the best J->E dictionary? Should I supplement it with another dictionary? Which would you guys recommend?

>> No.20033299

>>20032880
you weren't reading them anyway so nothing of value was lost.

>> No.20033306

私の事
忘れないでください
私はゲイのに
強く生きいていたかっただけ

>> No.20033309

>>20032981
so, listening?

>> No.20033325

>>20033221
妹のまんこは俺のつもり

>> No.20033332

>>20033325
delete this

>> No.20033342

>>20032981
wait, is it a bad thing to read in japanese while the japanese audio is playing? i know it's a bad question to ask here since everything makes it impossible to learn japanese.

>> No.20033352

>>20033342
Depends on what you expect to get out of it. It's gonna be less useful as listening practice and less useful as reading practice, and if you're the type of person who just drags their yomichan cursor over every word then you might as well not be reading at all.

>> No.20033363

>>20033332
残念ながら 削除は絶対絶対に無理

俺の妹は一番大事な女

何か離れたない

彼女のまんこはちょーーーーーうまいですよ

>> No.20033371

>>20033342
I consider it one of the most effective ways to gain exposure to Japanese bar none.

>> No.20033375

>>20033352
Is it better to manually look every word up?

>> No.20033391

>>20033375
A dictionary is a dictionary, whether the lookup is manual or not. As long as you make a serious effort to remember the word before looking it and take the time to try to commit the word to memory after looking it up (often helps to listen to the line again in context) I don't think it's going to be much worse than manually looking it up.

I suppose manually looking it up might improve your memory by forcing you to type out how it's actually read but it takes infinitely more time and one of the advantages of having a dictionary tool is that you can be exposed to a lot more text in the same amount of time.

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>>20033363
To think this is what DJT amounts to. クスクス

>> No.20033395

>>20033392
we should have an official japanese grammar clinic thread where people can write japanese sentences and other people can point out why its shit

like japanese stackexchange but anonymous and significantly more retarded

>> No.20033413

95% of the time the reason its shit is because they form thought in english and try to japanese it and it doesnt work

>> No.20033425

>>20033413
Honestly I just wanted to use 残念ながら.

このセリフはちょうかっこいいとおもう

>> No.20033432

>>20033413
that's hardly fatal (or else translation would be impossible) but i agree that among students you usually get a trainwreck

which is one of the reasons why sheer exposure to quantity of japanese is important and why dictionary tool-assisted simultaneous reading / listening (play more VNs) has one of the highest returns on effort in terms of japanese timesinks

>> No.20033442

>>20033395
>beginners trying to fix other beginners' beginner mistakes but unintentionally creating new ones
Sounds great

>> No.20033451

>>20031125
No he isn't.

>> No.20033470

>>20033451
source?

>> No.20033474

What happened to the kill me baby guy. why do we no longer have themed posters besides jamal.

>> No.20033478

>>20033442
yeah but if that happens a real deal certified nihongo expert like yourself can show up and BTFO them both, and if that doesn't happen it'll finally be made fully clear that nobody in this thread is qualified to talk about anything

it's no worse than this thread already was anyway

>> No.20033488

my theme is kuso posts

>> No.20033504

>>20032697
That's nice but manga isn't reading.

>> No.20033507

>>20033478
i dont believe theres any point to that shit because some random bits and pieces of whatever shit arent going to help someone gain japanese foundation

id rather everyone just watch this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvbpHEP9-_g

>> No.20033514

>>20033507
>some random bits and pieces of whatever shit arent going to help someone gain japanese foundation
what you actually pick up here and there is only marginally useful, the primary function of such threads is to demonstrate to people in exact detail the sheer gap between what people think they know and what they actually know

>> No.20033524

i dont find that interesting id rather post rap vids and わたしはゲイ ftw

>> No.20033556

あたしはゲイ キュ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH3pUWuqyAc

>> No.20033617

>>20033504
Lol retard

>> No.20033630
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What are you guys watching right now and how is your understanding? I am watching yuru yuri and find it very easy to follow.

>> No.20033822

>>20033391
seems nuke is being a core drone (or whatever those jlpt tango decks are called) so he's not reading/listening the light novels to learn new words. he just yomichan's some word he doesn't know no and again. hard to tell if he understands any of it since he shuts off his mike so we just hear the book audio except when he pauses to look up a word. he claims to listen to the same audio on loop the rest of the day so that might help.

that dramanote site he linked is fucking awesome though. that should be scraped and put on the djt page. http://dramanote.seesaa.net

>> No.20033832

>>20033630
Overlord III. Politics sections are starting to get lost on me. Seasons one and two were pretty easy, especially season one.

>> No.20033872

>>20029140
Never come back

>> No.20033873

I'm trying to find some Japanese YouTubers who play retro games like Quake III and Broken Sword, but with no success
do they have someone like Angry Video Game Nerd over there or do they all play the fucking Dead by Daylight?

>> No.20033902

>>20033832
I tried to watch overlord but it was so horrible that I couldn't get past the first season even ironically.
When an anime this shitty and uninspired gets renewed not once but twice you know the anime industry is in complete shambles.

>> No.20033996

Is Anki 2.1 functional now? Or should I stick with 2.0?

>> No.20034031

anyone know of any series that teach you japanese in a "drama" type setting?

similar to this type of thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZCWxKhQmRQ

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yoshi time for anki

>> No.20034089

>>20033873
Try searching a retro title that was made in Japan. No one cares about the games you mentioned in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/user/shuuya007/videos

>> No.20034100

>>20034031
yeah, they're called japanese dramas and anime. watch about 10,000 to get fluent.

>> No.20034177

>>20034031
Minna no nihongo has some pretty funny acting vocab videos, I'm seeding the torrent on nyaa.

>> No.20034187

>>20033425
そんなに「ちょう」を使わないでください、マジで引くわ

>> No.20034191

>>20034089
127 million people and not a single one cares about Quake III and Broken Sword franchise - what are the odds?

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>>20028091
i will never give up

>> No.20034210

I'm tired of learning.

>> No.20034218

>>20029783
actually, the age of people who watch anime is getting older because the kids have found other things to do

>> No.20034225

>>20034191
theres people who care but the problem is they are all 40 years old and arent making aids yt vids

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>>20034210
have you tried having fun?

>> No.20034240

>>20034218
i mean think about it what teenager would turn on late night anime and want to watch any of this shit

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>>20034240
i think there all on fortnight now anyways

>> No.20034261

>>20034100
it was 10000 hours, now it's 10000 anime. is it even possible anymore?

>> No.20034268

迎撃は私に任せて
私はゲイから

>> No.20034275

you dont watch 10000 anything to get fluent

you watch 10000 hours of anime to stand a chance

>>20034254
i saw some shit about kids parents paying for gaming lessons for their kids for that shit lmao

>> No.20034283

>>20032291
Funny, I did write a scrapper after some temporary downtime of kitsunekko a little while back. There's a rar file, but I don't really trust it to be complete due to the general buginess of the user interface.
I was a bit worried I killed it due to sending too many requests, but I had them well spaced out and only managed to get about 140MB out of 4775MB over the span of 24 hours or so.
new.kitsunekko.net is up with no apparent way to download stuff. There's also an ftp service running, but I doubt it's intended for public use.

>> No.20034301

>>20034275
so if i watch anime for 10000 hours, it's a better use of my time than studying for 10000 hours?

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>>20034275
kids these days don't know what real skill is

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>>20034301
maybe you can watch them all at once to get through the process faster

>> No.20034315

┐(‘~` )┌

>> No.20034319

>>20032291
curious about this. any word from the owners?

>> No.20034329

>>20034283
>>20034319
It turns out there's more of an interface on new.kitsunekko.net than the last time I checked. Maybe construction in progress?
http://new.kitsunekko.net/subtitles/japanese/

>> No.20034332

>>20034191
Sorry. I meant to say that LITERALLY no one in Japan cares.

>> No.20034367

>>20034329
hopefully that's it and not just abandonment. but not sure why it would need a new interface.

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>>20034315

>> No.20034389

>>20034210
What >>20034229 said. Stop studying and start watching anime.

There's a bunch of good stuff airing this season. Goblin Slayer, Golden Kamuy second season, Seishun Buta Yarou, Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken, Index III, Yagate Kimi ni Naru, Uchi no Maid ga Uzasugiru, Tonari no Kyuuketsuki-san ( >>>/wsg/2396118 ), Anima Yell, and Zombieland Saga are all worth a look.

>> No.20034390 [DELETED] 

>>20034386
delete this

>> No.20034395

>>20034332
??

>>20033873
Broken Sword
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8487059

Quake3
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1307352

>> No.20034401

>>20034389
dont forget karakuri circus. first episode hasn't aired but it's gonna be excellent

>> No.20034405

>>20032180
Use the Wayback Machine. I did it yesterday and it worked.

>> No.20034411

Why do people use kitsunekko? Their subs aren't even timed, and I'd honestly rather watch anime without the subs than have to spend 5 minutes total per episode trying to perfectly adjust the subtitles' timing.

>> No.20034416

>>20034401
The description makes it sound like a Jojo knock-off with puppets instead of stands.

>> No.20034423

>>20032180
Unless your reading level is at a point where you can read Japanese as fast as natives speak it, subs are pointless.

>> No.20034430

>>20034416
i mean if you boil anything far enough down it'll be the same as something else, the answer lies in the delivery. storywise it's way better than most jojo series. at least watch the pv

>> No.20034431

>>20034423
Is that supposed to be a difficult task?

>> No.20034435

>>20034411
Just open it in a text file and pause and look at pieces you're interested in. You aren't actually reading or listening if you just read along with the show anyway.

>> No.20034443

>>20034431
For someone who's Japanese is bad enough that they want to use subs, yes.

>> No.20034448

>>20034435
>You aren't actually reading or listening if you just read along with the show anyway.
What did he mean by this?

>> No.20034455

>>20034423
That's incorrect. Anime speech typically isn't very fast. Japanese subs can help you figure out word boundary ambiguities and such as well.
But the most helpful part of subs is just having them available so you can pause and look up a word you don't know. You don't have to leave them visible the whole time.

>> No.20034457

>>20034448
Your brain isn't making the same connections because both skills are supporting each other and in turn not being properly trained. It's like doing push ups on your knees. Better than nothing/doing something in english but less efficient.

>> No.20034468

>>20034301
just take an hour a day to learn 10 to 20 new things in japanese, preferably from anime you are watching. then watch more anime to start noticing all the new stuff you learned from then on. don't be a core drone that learns words but never watches any anime using those words.

>> No.20034471

>>20034430
Watched the PV but the concept just seems pretty goofy to be honest. I'll give the first episode a chance anyway though.

>> No.20034479

>>20034471
i mean, i'm not gonna pretend it isn't at its core a fun shonen battle series. but it's got cool art direction and a story that goes pretty hard. that and i'm a sucker for mostly normal MCs having to fight people that have special powers.

>> No.20034534

i have to say, revisiting something that was only like 20% comprehensible a few months ago and finding it fairly readable is a pretty cool feeling. "epic" even

>> No.20034560

okay thiscaret is epic

>> No.20034571 [DELETED] 

>>20034569
delete this

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You guys should really check out George Trombley aka your boy Pedoglot George's new channel, it looks pretty promising so far.

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>>20034611
>jvloggers

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>shitposting

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shit i forgot to do my reps

>> No.20034722

What are some Japanese hashtags to keep an eye on and use in my pics?

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>>20034710
Fuck, same. That makes two days in a row.

>Due: 524

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>>20034745
Once you miss a day on anki, it's all downhill from there. Then you can start climbing the real mountain.

>> No.20034779

>>20034722
>twittering

>> No.20034973

so is there any evidence that using subs doesn't help your listening abilities in the background?

>> No.20034980

>>20034973
it helps the comprehension part but not the decoding part

>> No.20034991

>>20034980
what do you mean?

>> No.20035023

>>20034991
the first part of listening is knowing what sounds were spoken through all the slurring and mumbling and accent and background noise etc
the second part is understanding those sounds mean
those two are separate processes
if you fall back on subs all the time youre not working as hard as you could be on recognizing sounds since you can skip that part and get straight to trying to understand the meanings

>> No.20035079

>>20035023
oh yeah i see what you mean now, i think. so the subs help understand what's being said, but not help hearing it when the subs are off?

that sounds right, but i wonder if that's really how it works. like maybe if you watch a show with subs and then immediately switch to another show that has similar phrases, but didn't use subs, if watching the first show with subs helped to understand the show without subs.

kind of like sentence cards. to me they help, but honestly, i know the sentence before i finish reading it a lot of the time. it's not like i have to struggle each time i see a sentence to get the meaning. at first that would sound like a bad idea that wouldn't help. but in reality i pay attention to the individual parts of the sentence, even if i already know what it means, and this still helps me a lot. i still notice the benefits when i read in the wild.

so i wonder if using the subs to get the meaning, but still paying attention to how the characters say what they say, if it will help hear those phrases even after the subs are turned off.

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>>20035079
its something i totally pulled outta my ass while thinking about it in the shower some time ago cause it made sense but a very quick google search actually returns stuff on it
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/6d58/c7a45da8c9e74cf4f0dfa0ea928b1a6923a1.pdf
i still dont think referencing subs like once or twice when youre really stuck is bad but if you use it for every other line or whatever at that point reading a bit more first might be more useful unless you decide to slow your pace down and keep replaying the same sentences until you get most of them

>so i wonder if using the subs to get the meaning, but still paying attention to how the characters say what they say, if it will help hear those phrases even after the subs are turned off.
sounds like it should but i dont know enough about neuroscience to know if your brain will just end up being lazy and lying to you about having truly decoded and mapped the sounds because youve already read what was said

>> No.20035115

>>20035079
actually im just going to say that's exactly how it works for me. like i don't always use subs, but sometimes i do and ill immediately understand things when i watch other shows without them. but, i always hear people saying they don't help at all.

>> No.20035137

i actually thought you guys were discussing japanese subs this entire time

>> No.20035138

i was
the study i linked is for english but i imagine it still holds for any other language

>> No.20035153

>>20035138
it's practically impossible for me to imagine that anyone would actually ignore the audio input to focus on reading only and somehow "ignoring" their audio input

it's certainly not going to be a decent test of decoding but i find it near impossible to believe that simultaneously reading / listening to the same word for hours on end is not going to reinforce the connection

>> No.20035160

Watching anime with japanese subs so I'm reading and watching at the same time :)

>> No.20035169

>>20035153
i wouldnt think people would do that either but auto pilot is one hell of a drug just like how some people slide over stuff using yomi

i think so too but i also feel like it would take longer doing it passively than actively
then theres also the matter of not focusing enough one the sounds to notice pitch accent for puns and shit

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>>20028153
sunk cost fallacy m8

>> No.20035176

>>20035111
I agree with those points about things only found in listening (false starts, pausing, etc.) would need listening practice to understand them, but i think those can still be picked up with subs if they're heard enough.

also, the part about continually understanding a flow of text is definitely different from reading where you can read back and forth, but I think subs can help here too. mostly because the subs flash about as fast as the speakers speak them, so you don't have much time to go back and forth. I even think when reading without audio, if you try to read parts left-to-right without backtracking, looking ahead, or pausing, can help to be able to keep up with a constant stream of words, which can help with that too.

not really sure why I'm ranting about this though.

>> No.20035183

>>20035169
i mean if you really actively pursue listening that's going to be worth more, of course, but the main appeal of passive acquisition is that you can reinforce your knowledge in a non-mentally taxing manner while consuming material at a pace that doesn't completely ruin the pace of consumption

>> No.20035209

>>20035160
two birds with one stone

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おはようおにいちゃん

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>>20035221

>> No.20035232

>>20035221
Why does he sit like that?

>> No.20035233

>>20035232
maybe his butt hurts

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>>20035233
From what?

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>>20035239

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>>20035221
いすでこれやって

こけたことある

おにいちゃんは

しょうじきにこくはくすること

>> No.20035314 [DELETED] 

>>20035314
delete this

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>> No.20035335 [DELETED] 

someone else did it

>> No.20035354 [DELETED] 

who deleted that?

>> No.20035434

嗚呼死にたいな〜〜〜〜

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>https://kitsunekko.net/
>404 File (site) not found

p-pls tell me this is j-just temporary. iam such a massive subs2srs fag that this would be the kill of me

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>>20034768
>Once you realize anki is shit and you should be reading, you'll be off Mount Stupid!
And on the 2nd Mount Stupid. It happens all the time, once you find a better method you just assume the earlier method has actually been shit the entire time. The truth is that you should be doing both: No matter what you say, you learn words faster with anki. You learn the rest, like how to use them, from reading and listening.

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>ココ ココ
>You start seeing japanese everywhere

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>>20035670

>> No.20035691

unfunny :/

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>>20035221

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this is trending in japan

beginners should be able to read this

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>>20035221

>> No.20035769

>>20035670
YJSPIやっちゃいましょうよ

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How good are you at recognising common kanji?

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How good are you at recognising common kanji?

>> No.20035782

>>20035778
よめるけど

にほんごはちょっとおかしいよ

>でんとうのびしょく
>なつかしさのあじ

2ぎょうめのところは

>古き良き味

こうくっつけるのがしぜんだよ

>> No.20035784

>>20035778
伝統の美食
懐かしさの味

>> No.20035787

When Yomichan creates an Anki card, is there a way to make it auto-bold the expression in the sentence field?

>> No.20035790

>>20035778
>>20035782
>伝統の美食
>古式ゆかしき味

これもいいかんじのくっつきかたじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>> No.20035873

As a non RTK fag, I still find it very entertaining to try to figure out the logic of some of the semantic kanji components at times.

>防
>妨

Actually even the phonetic bit works together here, the big ugly B blocks shit that comes your way, but women always just get in the way.

>> No.20035875

>Foxcat it back

See ya later, weebs

>> No.20035946

>>20035873
B block is actually β, beta

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>> No.20035951

>>20035704
>trending in japan
I've seen this joke in some anime that was made in 2000s

>> No.20035955

>>20032925
his chick is so hot desu

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>>20034395
gajin are rough

>> No.20036037

>>20035969
>using the english site

>> No.20036078

>>20035969
>gajin

>> No.20036094

>>20034389

If he's still learning then he won't have fun not understanding a damn thing they are saying.

>> No.20036106

>>20036094
thats why you watch 10000 hours

>> No.20036140

>>20036106
why watch 10000 hours when you can be like nuke after 10 years and just starting to learn n3 level vocabulary.

https://youtu.be/j4H-cjQiBwI

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Halfway through hell

>> No.20036218

>>20036210
>doing core
halfway through a waste of time

>> No.20036220

>>20036210
How many new cards a day do you do?

>> No.20036228

>>20036220
20

>> No.20036239

>>20036210
How much do you read?

>> No.20036245

>>20036239
Try to read two hours of LN a day, also watch some virtual youtubers, listen to/watch NHK for at least half an hour

>> No.20036291

What kinda SoL shows should a beginner at listening watch? I don't have any real preferences for content so long as it's relatively easy and engaging.

>> No.20036293

>>20036291
shirokuma cafe is comfy and engaging, I have been watching 1-2 episodes a day with jp subs and while I don't understand everything it's usually enough to understand what's going on.

>> No.20036296

>>20036291
K-On is great. Anything Kyoani is great.

>> No.20036297

>>20036291
Nichijou

>> No.20036300

Is there a Discord where English-speaking Japanese learners and Japanese-speaking English learners can meet and talk?

>> No.20036310

>>20029434
>I fucking love Kanji

I want this on a T-shirt.

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>>20036293
>>20036296
>>20036297
Thanks anons.

>> No.20036313

>>20036300
what's the fucking point of that?

>> No.20036324

>>20036313
to speak to one another using voices and speech

>> No.20036325

>>20036313
Help alleviate the angst by seeing them struggle to learn english as much as we struggle to learn japanese

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>>20036291

>> No.20036366

>>20036210
It's hard, isn't it? I wish I could do more than 20-30 a day.

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>water
>water

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>oh yeah, the water droplet goes down into the water and it splashes to the sides

>> No.20036427

>>20036210

Could have just read+mined yo

>> No.20036437

>>20036351
>>20036366

>> No.20036448

minna genki ?

>> No.20036452

>>20036448
>>20036351

>> No.20036453

How do you learn Korean?

>> No.20036456

eat small domestic animals

>> No.20036458

>>20036453
Watch J-pop music videos for two hours a day for three months

>> No.20036467

>>20036448
猛烈な大雨が降っても元気だ。ザンダーとライトニングが怖いね

>> No.20036469

Anyone here studying Korean and Japanese at the same time?

>> No.20036475

>>20036453
One of my friend's moms learned Korean by watching K-dramas and writing words on her fridge in Hangul. Of course this has taken a number of years but apparently she's pretty good. Doesn't know any Hanja however.

>> No.20036479

>>20036469
안녕하세요

>> No.20036484

>>20036453
1000 hours of manhwa

>> No.20036497

>>20036479
On the one hand, WTF, on the other hand, apparently this shit is supposed to be easy to learn to read? Are homophones as common in Korean as in Japanese?

I always imagine that reading Korean would be similar to reading Kana-only shit, except all the time.

>> No.20036518

annyeonghaseyo minnasan
what's your favourite bangtan sonyeondan song

>> No.20036523

>>20036497
No sweat.
I did it in one seating.

>> No.20036525

>driving down the road
>suddenly someone pulls in front of me
>go buy ice cream after that
>some guy is blocking the ice cream
>politely ask him to move
>start eating ice cream driving down the road
>pass by a cop swerving
>go home and watch anime
pretty good day so far

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>>20036456

>> No.20036564

>>20034411
There's a program that automatically retimes those subs based on properly timed english subs you have.

It's not perfect but does a pretty good job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKO1wBM3IEc

>> No.20036570

>>20036497
>>>/reddit/

>> No.20036575

>>20036564
Reading is not listening

>> No.20036583

>>20034534
The key is to start out with material of intermediate difficulty so that after 2 months you still won't understand it when you reread it.

>> No.20036585

>>20035111
>neuroscience
pseudoscience. don't worry about it.

>> No.20036586

>>20028244
or used romanji

>> No.20036605

>>20035950
Check out his conversation with George where George calls them a cult for making MIA part of their identity. Calvin has grown so much.

>> No.20036612

>>20036575
When did I say it was?

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>>20036605
Calling MIA a "cult" is being way too kind.

Wanna see a real language learning cult? Go check out the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Their language learning program may just make you believe in God.

Source: friends who served missions to various countries including Japan who got good incredibly fast this way.

>> No.20036666

>>20036644
Nah, that's a cult that also has a language learning program attached.

>> No.20036675

>>20036605
>Check out his conversation with George where George calls them a cult for making MIA part of their identity. Calvin has grown so much.

Could you post the link to the conversation?

>> No.20036683

>>20036675
https://youtu.be/HR1EoGNJWNM?t=4321
Skip ahead to find when Calvin joins the discord and they actually talk.

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>>20036666
>その番号
悪魔王さま地獄に戻れ

>> No.20036703

Human Japanese beginner/intermediate is on sale at Amazon for $15.

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I wish I was ラブラブ with Kaori-chan

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never gonna happen

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>>20036690
Make me

>> No.20036897

PCfag here
What do you guys use to read raw manga on your phones?

>> No.20036960

>>20036897
すいません、匿名くん・・・投稿はわかりませんでした。「漫画を食べるか」って意味しましたか?

>> No.20036964

>>20036897
Manga isn't reading buddy.

>> No.20036996

>___ってだけで別に
My best guesses at what this mean are really dumb ("___isn't only") and can't be right so what does this mean?

>> No.20037001

>>20036960
いいえ、すいません。この朝私もう漫画お食べした。 だから 、今まんがはよむ。

>> No.20037025

>>20037001
>まんがはよむ。
漫画を読む

>> No.20037035

>>20037001
あ、そうだ。しかし、漫画を読むことは無駄と思うよ。飲んだ方がいいのよ。

>> No.20037046

>>20037001
>すいません
すみません*

>> No.20037054

Stop with this chink shit. Speak english god damnit.

>> No.20037060

>>20037054
the absolute state of djt

>> No.20037068

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLPhNPY4SM0

>> No.20037071

put your truip on jamal

>> No.20037078

>>20037054
>毎日日本語スレ
>EOP貴様たちは英語でしゃべれって
絶対に恥ずかしい。

>> No.20037080

is conversing with other beginners and intermediates supposed to be encouraged here or something even though that can only be a bad thing

>> No.20037087

おれわ日本

>> No.20037088

>>20037035
飲む漫画は私に病気になります。私はアニメを飲む。

>> No.20037094

i dont take it off dude i aint got nothin to do with none of this shit

>> No.20037102

>>20037080
I mean, if you're used to reading and listening enough you should get the gist of what is meant by others' posts even if their grammar is fucked. The whole point is that drinking enough o-nippongo will eventually solve their grammar problems. Reading incorrect shit won't affect you at all because your brain is gonna autocorrect wrong/dropped particles/etc.

As for outputting, there's no harm in it since 90% of the Japanese posts that are longer than 3 words here tend to be grammatically solid.

>> No.20037107

but you did the venus avatar

>> No.20037109

i havent posted w.o trip in like last 3 or 4 threads or w.e

>> No.20037111

>>20037046
すいませんとすみませんはどちらも正解、馬鹿アノン

>> No.20037129

>>20036996
___という(=って)だけで
just only ~~~ and
別に(omitted something like それ以外の いみはない)
(i mean nothing) other than that

>> No.20037136

what do you like about her anyway

>> No.20037156

「is short for / is shortened form of」は日本語で何ですか

>> No.20037159

honestly i think its sick that 1 dude is all about that girl now

i just posted the uggo face that i happened to get when i checked out 1 vid because someone name dropped some yt fags and i made the mistake of checking them out

basically i facilitated that shit gettign posted itt regularly now and i do apologize

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its not much but here u can have this

>> No.20037167

>>20037107
I'm not jamal, just the venusposter
>>20037159
I know her way before ever coming here, sorry if posting her disturbs you. I guess I should stop now

>> No.20037180

>>20037156
「Xの喜び」というんです
example: 中出しの喜び

>> No.20037181

it doesnt bother me i think its cool rep your shit

>> No.20037216

>>20037180
ええ、わかりません..
「XはXのために短いです]。。ない?

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>>20037216
さあグーグルさんに聞きましょう

>> No.20037258

>>20037241
>たんしゅくかたち
>笑

>> No.20037267

>>20037156
X is short for Y
は日本語で
「XはYの略です」
です

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>>20037241
アノンくん。。。

>> No.20037285

>>20037267
「略」。。!いいです。

>> No.20037343

all these hieroglyphs without substance shaking my head

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>>20030392
Imagine if it would turn out he is reading some kind of chinese translation or shit.

>> No.20037627

tfw 1.5k vocab learned and can't pass n4 test

>> No.20037636

tfw 200-300 vocab learned and can't read VN

>> No.20037647

>>20037163
those things are fkin huge

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>>20037627
vocab # is meaningless on meaningless tests.

Pic related is a game that kids should be able to play, and every single one of them will know things like 妖精、湖畔、 平原、里、谷、砦、故郷、城下町、墓地、血塗る、怨念、and a whole shit ass ton of other words that are 100% useless in daily life but critical to enjoying it.

Are you gonna argue with this, or are you going to learn it?

>> No.20037705

just watch anime and play video games and most importantly have fun : )

>> No.20037708

>>20037676
ill argue with it, but not because its wrong or anything, but because you can't be right

>> No.20037716

>>20037705
I'm trying but then this faggot 鬱 comes up and ruins my fun

>> No.20037728

>>20037716
i could learn that kanji in my sleep

>> No.20037739

how do I improve comprehension? Like i would know every word and every grammar point but i would take everything so literally i mess things up. I dunno if i just need to read more but its getting annoying.

>> No.20037750

>>20037676
Not relevant but what game is that?

>> No.20037751

Just learnd 虹. I can't believe than even after thousands of hours of reading i never encountered it.

>> No.20037752

10000 hours of anime with english subtitle

>> No.20037758

>>20037750
装甲悪鬼村正

>> No.20037761

>>20037750
cant tell if your lying, but it's zelda ocorina of time for n64, one of the greatest games of all time

>> No.20037769

>>20037761
ocarina*

>> No.20037773

>>20037761
Not lying, I'm pretty old (if 32 can be considered old) and I'm not really into the gaming scene. The last game I played was probably mario kart.

>> No.20037778

>>20037773
It came out when you were in prime age to play video games (12 years old) though

>> No.20037782

>>20037778
Even so, I only had nintendo consoles and they weren't even technically mine, so chances that I played a particular game are pretty slim.

>> No.20037788

dont fall for it guys

>> No.20037793

>>20037773
oh i was thinking "damn kids these days forgetting all the good stuff." but it's a great game even if your not a hardcore gamer.

>> No.20037800

>>20037788
wait yeah you're right. there's no way someone doesn't know zelda

>> No.20037819

>>20037788
I'm not trolling, but if you want to think that everybody in the world knows what that game is, then feel free to go ahead and do that. I don't know any of the popular games besides Mario and Actraiser because I'm not an avid gamer.

>> No.20037850

another troll thwarted by your neighborhood watch dogg jamal

>> No.20037854

>>20037819
Okay retart

>> No.20037869

>>20037819
ok i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's a great game to play.

>> No.20037898

>>20037869
I'll check it out

>> No.20037919

frnakly id recommend botw over the old games to a not avid gaymer

>> No.20037946

>>20036094
You can have fun watching anime even when you don't really understand the dialogue very well. There are often visual and audible clues as to what's going on, and quite often you even get on-screen diagrams to help you understand when a character is explaining something or other. There are also things besides the plot for you to pay attention to and derive enjoyment from. The fact that you think watching raw anime can't be fun without perfect or near-perfect comprehension makes me think you've never actually tried it.

>> No.20037951

>>20037946
Not him, but I actually haven't given raw anime a try. I don't know man, I feel like I need to strengthen up my vocab before then.

>> No.20037973

you should just watch with english subs it doesnt matter if the readability of them is trash or even if theres glaring errors at points (less frequent in "professionally" subbed shit) because all you want is ideas and emotions and contexts all of which you can easily discern

plus anime is great repetition because its all the same shit shit out and regurgitated at infinitum ftw

this shouldnt need explained to anyone though it should just happen naturally so by reading this youre already perma crippled ftl

>> No.20037978

>>20037919
Botw as in Bottom of the Well? That's probably my favorite child dungeon in Ocarina of Time, the dead hands are super creepy.

>> No.20037994

>>20037978
check this out http://lmgtfy.com/?q=botw

>> No.20038020

>>20037994
This is the first result that came up for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msx6hwUHXKM

You do know google has tailored results per person right?

>> No.20038039

can you stop trolling and just play anime and watch video games

>> No.20038046

>>20038039
>everyone who disagrees with me is a troll

>> No.20038059

google is the same website for everyone on the internet regardless of race creed or sexual orientation

>> No.20038063

thats actually factually objectively false but im sure a facebook having gramps wouldnt know

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10,000 hours of meditation later...

>> No.20038079

>>20038063
can you prove it or are you just another troll

>>20038067
write a #5

but you can learn nihongo

>> No.20038080

>>20037978
>>20038020
ye ye we get it you're one of the only 5000~ privileged people on the internet who knows about OOT speedrunning no need to spread your oh-so-useful knowledge on obscure remote places like djt

>> No.20038084

>everyone uses ちゃ because its easier than なくていけなかった
>by the way ちゃ sounds feminine
So everyone in Japan sounds feminine?

>> No.20038088

>>20038067
it's funny to see noobs fall for the MAT meme

>> No.20038095

funny enough it seems people that havent watched 10000 hours of anime have perma gender identity aids with regular japanese speech

i would have definitely thought this would be a problem for someone who only watched anime

>> No.20038097

>>20038084
japan is truly the promised land

>> No.20038100

>>20038084
Who are you quoting?

>> No.20038105

where do I get games that are in Japanese? like Western games with Jap dubs

>> No.20038123

hurrrrrrrrrr i stuped wher me git gaymes???? ← you

>> No.20038125

>>20038105
you want dubs?

>> No.20038126

>>20038105
Either buy it from a Japanese store (import/digital) or check to see if the game has Japanese locale options and set that as your main.
If you're looking for Western games with Jap dubs then the former is more likely than the latter (since Japs wanting Jap dubs in games get shafted more than EOPs wanting English dubs in Jap games).

>> No.20038131

>>20038125
nvm that post was supposed to be a lot cooler

>> No.20038140

>>20038105
I don't know about western games but there's a bunch of Japanese games on Steam that have the option to play it fully in Japanese

>> No.20038144

a lot of games now just auto pick what language to run in based on pc locale setting

>> No.20038156

I want to play old as games in Japanese like Diablo 2 n shiet

>> No.20038162

>>20038100
Tae Kim.

>> No.20038211

>>20038162
Tyler can sometimes get shit wrong. He's human, after all. Good thing you're a still beginner so you don't have to worry much about the intricacies of the Japanese language and getting everything right yet. Though I would advise against treating his word as a holy grail, considering he's not even a native speaker, nor a real linguist.

>> No.20038221

ポテトチップスはジャガイモの薄切りから作ったスナック菓子の一種です。知ってたかな?

>> No.20038222

>>20038211
I'm not a beginner I'm 5+ months in.

>> No.20038224

why is everyone trolling!!!

>> No.20038226

>>20038222
冗談でしょうボケ

>> No.20038228

>>20038222
Why are you reading Tae Kim?

>> No.20038230

it's shitposting and its fun

>> No.20038240

>>20038221
いせかいてんせいすれば

ポテチキングになれそう

>> No.20038242

5 months in is pretty beginner in my opinion. Maybe a less shitty beginner but still beginner.

>> No.20038248

>>20038228
I'm on the second half of Tae Kim, not the beginner stuff.

>> No.20038259

Which month is the month that most people exit beginner and become intermediate if their study method is lots of input?

>> No.20038260

>>20038248
Tae Kim is all beginner stuff. Including the advanced section.

>> No.20038263

バカヤロウちゃんたちね。俺はね、少し悩んでるんださ。シコるときは日本人しか行けない状態になっちゃったみたい。どうするかい?

>> No.20038266

>>20038259
69

>> No.20038270

>>20038259
1 to 2 years

>> No.20038271

>>20038260
Not really. The first section "basic grammar" is beginner. The latter sections (especially the second half) is advanced grammar.

>> No.20038291

glad i came across しか in the dojg deck today since i've seen it a lot while reading and i always take notice of it, but i never remember it since reading doesn't do jack shit for memorizing stuff as a beginner. luckily i'll remember it now.

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>>20038271
Literally just opened Tae Kim on a random page of the second half, and this is what I got.
Are you really trying to tell me that shit like よう and みたい are "advanced grammar"? Don't make laugh. At this point he's even still holding your hand with his translated vocabulary list nonsense. It doesn't get any more beginner than this.

>> No.20038389

>>20038263
きょうみはないけど

それは二次?

>> No.20038444

>>20038299
The guide is for beginners. It's advanced beginner grammar (and also pointless to read before jumping into native media)

>> No.20038478

>>20038299
Again you are incorrect. even as early as chapter 4 it is covering advanced concepts such as volitional forms and contextual conditionals. That is meant for intermediate to advanced stage learners.

>> No.20038503

>tfw everything sounds sarcastic to you but not sure if it is anymore

>> No.20038518

you dont even know english

>> No.20038525

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcfdCeaKFMg#t=61

>> No.20038576

How am I supposed to learn Japanese if I don't want to?

>> No.20038579

>>20038576
Don't?

>> No.20038585

>>20038579
Free will doesn't exist. I'm going to do it but the question is how since I don't want to.

>> No.20038586

youre asking the wrong question

you shouldve said which anime do i start my journey with

>> No.20038595

>>20038585
That wasn't a suggestion. I'm commanding you to not learn Japanese, and you don't have the free will to refuse.

>> No.20038603

>>20038595
I'm a boulder rolling down the hill of Japanese learning and your post is like a leaf in my path I'm rolling over. I don't say this to be mean but just to say that this is unfortunately the way things have to be. I don't like it, believe me.

>> No.20038610

youre more like a clump of shit being rolled by a shit beetle

>> No.20038615

>>20038603
Even a leaf can permanently alter the course of a rolling boulder. By even considering my request to stop learning Japanese, your studies have been crippled forever. In other words, I have already won.

>> No.20038620

live djt cam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBqJkmlj_w4#t=9

>> No.20038627

that dung beetle is more productive than the past 72 posters

>> No.20038654

>>20038627
It has procreated, so yes

>> No.20038667
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20038667

when watching native Japanese media without subs how much should I concentrate on what's actually being said? can I just listen semi-passively?
I catch myself spacing out whenever there's a long dialog, because I don't understand most if it and it kinda becomes just a background noise to me

so for the 10000 hours of anime meme to be true what approach to the listening should be taken?

>> No.20038680

>>20038667
watch matt's guide on meditation. he brings up the exact scenario you're talking about, where you zone out constantly. and says if he had done meditation from the beginning my learning would have been more efficient. meditation helps keep you focused.

>> No.20038682

its almost like kids are so perma brain damaged they cant even focus on the media in front of them and need to ask how to consume it

there is no approach youre either a huge retard or youre not

and by being here we are all truly huge retards

>> No.20038690

some huger than others

>> No.20038697

心中したいけど
恋人はいない

>> No.20038709

>>20038682
how can I consume sounds that I don't understand you fricking faggot

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>> No.20038722

>>20038709
>>20037973

>> No.20038723

>>20038690
Do you even know how to speak Japanese? Because literally all I've seen from you is shit I would have posted 15 years ago as a preteen. You act like this kid who shits up my local but nobody has the courage to tell him that we all hate him.

>> No.20038727

>>20038723
>but nobody has the courage to tell him that we all hate him.
We used to let him know constantly but without moderators there's not much that can be done.

>> No.20038731

>>20038723
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1oaOyng8TRO

>> No.20038740

>>20038723
wait is this calvin

>> No.20038754
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20038754

no more fighting. we're all friends here

>> No.20038761

>>20038740
No, I am an anon like we all should be you cancerous tripfag.

>> No.20038762

no ones fighting im unfightable

i feel bad for anyone who has actual hate in their heart though lmao

>> No.20038772

>>20038761
if im cancer youre aids

>> No.20038774

>>20038067
my sides anon

>> No.20038792

>>20038667
You're spacing out because what you're listening to sounds like sdfjsijfikasdssauhf ichiban ajdhafdsfsd koko ni dhsfsfsskdhkas watashi wa djashdkuaxfgfdgsh desuka

You won't learn anything from listening to material you don't understand. Don't fall for the meme.

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>do rtk

>> No.20038813

>>20038808
more like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw#t=15

>> No.20038817

>>20038697
まったくどうかん

きがあうじゃない

おなかすいた?

ごはんたべにいこ

>> No.20038821

>>20038813
crash and burn?

>> No.20038834

>仕方
>resource, method

>仕方ない
>it can't be helped

日本語はとてもごみ言語です

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>>20038503
yeah i'm totally being serious

>> No.20038840

>>20038817
よしこれで2ホモ減る、この世界は少しだけもっと綺麗になった

>> No.20038851

>>20038840
おとこあつかいされて

ひさしいけど

じょしです

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>> No.20038893

わたしも

べっぴん

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>>20038067
Did you buy the book just so you could make this or did you already have it?

>> No.20038943

Do you guys really find some guy writing rehashed memes on a piece of paper to be funny? You're literally no different from snapchat normalfags.

>> No.20038949

let me guess youre this guy >>20038761

>> No.20039214

actually im this gay >>20038949

>> No.20039225

im also gay

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>>20038923
>Did you buy the book just so you could make this

>> No.20039260

>>20039225
Jamal you're not gay fuck off

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>>20039238

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this thread makes me sick

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jk you guys are alright

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>>20039238

>> No.20039419

man i still don't know of a decent journal/calendar system i can use to neatly log my progress

>> No.20039464

you picked a very weird place to market your game my dude were all pirates here except that one fag

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プログラミングを勉強することができた。しかし、代わりに日本語を学んだ...

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20039516

>skipping reps

>> No.20039543

just had the best idea. just mine all i+1 sentences from dictionary definitions

>> No.20039546

just had the best idea but im going to stick it behind a paywall please sub to my patreon

>> No.20039552

unsubscribed

>> No.20039559

just had the best idea

わたしはゲイ

>> No.20039561

special 2 per cent discount if you resub

>> No.20039569

2 what per cent?

>> No.20039573

yes

>> No.20039580

just had the best idea. just give up nihongo

>> No.20039614

i think giving up is a good idea but that doesnt mean stop having fun with things from japan

just give up your retarded way of trying to learn nihongo

yes this is pretty smart actually

>> No.20039626

no no no you got it all wrong give up japanese keep going with nihongo though

>> No.20039675

just had the best idea. use native material to learn japanese

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just had the best idea

>> No.20039720

read more

>> No.20039724

Is this reportable

>> No.20039756

everything can be reported

>> No.20039784

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2zFIXTdaHQ

>> No.20039786

just had the best idea. you can learn a language with submersion

>> No.20039789

that last post was so horrid theres no way its not reportable

>> No.20039798

just had the best idea you can learn a language with subversion

>> No.20039817

git outta here

>> No.20039827

>>20039714
かー可愛い

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what does this face even mean?

>> No.20039887

あきのまっさかり

こうらくびより

おそとでなにかしたい

>> No.20039895

>>20039886
ganbarimasu

>> No.20039903

おそとでなにかしよっていったら

ふゆのじゅんびがおわったらなっていわれた

はたらいてくる

>> No.20039905

>>20039887
もう漢字を使え, このアホが!

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>>20039895
oh, gambarimasu

>> No.20039936

ふゆのそなえー

ふゆのそなえー

たのしいなー

>> No.20039939

>>20039714
Source for vid?

>> No.20039954

>>20039936
何か言ったのかな. さっぱり分からん. まっともな文字さえ用いればいいのにな~

>> No.20039993

ふゆのそなえだいいちだん

こたつぶとんをほしておく

こたつぶとんのシーツをあらっておく

とってもだいじ

>> No.20040011

>>20039993
お前のシーツ俺の尻を拭いてしてみるか

>> No.20040070

あとせんぷうきをしまって

でんきストーブをだす

そうじきもかける

>> No.20040126

What does nukemarine do that makes him an eternal beginner? I want to make sure I don't do those things

>> No.20040127
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20040127

The trouble with playing Zelda is that it received an EXCELLENT translation, so there's almost no point in playing it if you were looking for the "original Japanese is superior" meme.

Things are worded differently (at least from what I can recall of it, been like 15 years since I last played it), but all in all this game is really great practice for seeing certain less-common Kanji in the wild while getting occasional nice reading practice in. If you're like me, you'll scan every enemy to read the Navi descriptions, talk to every villager, and explore every place to try and seek out different words and interesting things.

I expect Majora's Mask to be more of the same when I go to play it, but consistent exposure while having fun isn't really the worst thing in the world.

>> No.20040141

>>20040127
>playing some blocky old zelda when you could play botw

>> No.20040145

>>20040126
He barely reads.
>>20040127
The very earliest releases of Majora's Mask have a couple of translation hiccups in obscure NPC dialogue, about three lines, but they were all fixed in rereleases. However, IIRC, the EU and US versions have different styles of English writing, at least on the N64.

>> No.20040155

>>20040127
さぁ。。。さっさと今の書き込みを日本語に翻訳しろ!できなければ、お前はもう無理だろう!

>> No.20040158

>>20040145
I did watch the first bit of a 実況プレイ for Majora's and I found it very curious just how different the Mask Seller's dialogue is.

For example, the famous/memetic "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?" is a lot less cool/foreboding
「大変な目にあいましたねぇ」

I don't want to assume anything but if they took a lot of liberties and punched up a lot of the dialogue for the English release, I won't be too surprised. Nintendo's in-house translation team are apparently excellent writers.

>> No.20040171

>>20040127
We get it you can stop now.

>> No.20040204

>>20040011
シーツは3日に1回くらいはあらう

>> No.20040212

>>20040171
>This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, visual novels, light novels, and Japanese video games.

>> No.20040213

>>20040158
it's the exact same thing retard, you're just not good enough at japanese. now shut the fuck up

>> No.20040216

>>20040158
your issue is actually that one just resonates more for you because of familiarity with that language

>> No.20040217

>>20040127
man games offer such little input

>> No.20040221

ps: if you want to learn japanese from games, make sure to build up your skill level quickly enough to play anime RPGs and console RPGs that are basically VNs with lots of gameplay like neptunia and stuff. they usually have vn style cutscenes with persistent backlogs and voice replay, and and all the descriptive text and item names in the UI makes up for the lack of narration

>> No.20040224

>>20040217
*slaps a 10MB console RPG script down onto the table*
say that to my face nerd not the crowd

>> No.20040225

ps if you wanna learn nihongo from video game just play the ones you wanna play and do whatever the fuck you gotta do

>> No.20040229

i mean if you do that you have to consume a lot more than just the games you want to play to actually get good, that's the point of what i was saying, if you just sticking to games

>> No.20040232

>>20040229
>if you just sticking to games
Your ebonics is showing, anon

>> No.20040234

hey mods can you ban jamal already please? He clearly broke the board rules with his gay shit a few posts ago and his post was even deleted, why don't you just put him out of his misery?

>> No.20040240

>>20040234
Jamal is the only good poster in these threads. Ban the "manga isn't reading xD" retard instead. Or mattposters.

>> No.20040241

>>20040204
あんなに水を使えるにはもったいないね. 一周ごとに洗えばいいんだし.

>> No.20040244

>>20040225
What if the games he wants to play are 装甲悪鬼村正, 神咒神威神楽, 信天翁航海録, 紅殻町博物誌, 霞外籠逗留記 and 花散峪山人考?

>> No.20040245

>>20040240
Put your trip back on.

>> No.20040246

>>20040234
lol that pics been posted here a billion times idgi

anyway stop crying baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBLdtGXkOnQ

>> No.20040247

>>20040241
使わる*

>> No.20040248

>>20040244
nobody posts that one screenshot from muramasa that's basically just a wall of kanji anymore. i want that to be the new "record yourself reading this via vocaroo if you're so good bitch" challenge instead of that toradora page.

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>>20040229
I read the news and a LN for several hours a day at work because of how much downtime I have, so I'll unwind with some ゼルダの伝説 and enjoy the simpler input and mindless gameplay.

I agree though, if gaming is your only source of input, you're gonna 大変な目に遭います.

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>>20040248
I'd rather it be this page from Jintai.

>> No.20040267

Probably a stupid question I'm missing something obvious on or just not thinking of in the correct way, but I've seen しごき立てる used several times (usually in the context of dicks like おちんちんをしごき立てる) and I can't quiet grasp the meaning. I feel like しごき shouldn't be 扱き but I can't discount it being essentially "painfully erect" or something like that. [Noun]を[Noun][verb] doesn't seem right and I never really see しごき/扱き while reading and I can't find any example sentence on tatoeba using it.

>> No.20040288

>>20040267
Finally found it, it's supposed to be 扱く, isn't it? I really need to go back and study contractions.

>> No.20040290

>>20040240
>Ban the "manga isn't reading xD" retard instead.
Jamal posts the same mindless kind of memes. There is no way you're not Jamal.

>> No.20040295

the one whos mindless is you

also id never disguise my post and use periods and shit

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20040299

Why haven't you ran hundreds of Anki simulations to calculate your optimal settings yet?

>> No.20040306

>>20040290
>if i disagree with him, he must be jamal
Stop being silly.

>> No.20040315

>>20040299
Because I'm already at 70% retention most days, so I can't really increase my intervals.

>> No.20040316

>>20040295
But you did back in the day...

>> No.20040339

>>20040315
You can drop it to 60% by setting your Interval Modifier to 143%. This will result in fewer reps and more cards learned in the same amount of time

>> No.20040362

cone bong wah
meena genkie?

>> No.20040399

お前ら所詮この程度なのか?

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What is babby's first raw anime?

For manga we have Yotsuba, for VNs Flyable Heart, and for LNs we have Kino no Tabi, but there doesn't seem to be a standard recommendation in terms of anime when someone comes here asking what they should watch.

Based on my experience, I feel inclined towards saying Kemono Friends should fill this role, but maybe someone else has a better idea.

>> No.20040407

どんな程度だよ
知った風なこと言いやがって

>> No.20040409

>>20040405
刀語

>> No.20040420

>>20040405
Actually for VNs it's Hanahira.

>> No.20040424

>>20040407
まあいいや, 知らないならほっとけばいいんですとも. その方がましだと思うぜ.

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>>20040420
It seems to be joint both, but Hanahira is boring so I didn't want to include it.

>> No.20040441

>>20040426
And Flyable Heart is generic and dumb piece of trash. At least Hanahira is short so it's relatively easy for a beginner to pick up and finish it.

>> No.20040448

>>20040441
喧嘩を売ってんのか、てめえ

>> No.20040457

>>20040448
喧嘩は受け止めただぜ、ただ...お前はその覚悟はあんなのか?

>> No.20040474

>>20040457
自分の墓穴を掘ったな。この俺様と戦うのは命を捨てる行為さ。てめえなんかには一撃が充分だ。

>> No.20040475

日本語ができないお前ら笑えるぜww
可笑しすぎてたまらんww
腹痛えぇwwww

>> No.20040483

イタいのはそっちのほうなんですが

>> No.20040492

>>20040475
てめえもこの俺様を揶揄うつもりか?いいだろう。一人でも二人でも千人でも構わないぞい。かかってこい!

>> No.20040500

hanahira is actually the final boss of japanese, you need to train in the void for several cycles of reincarnation to even have an evaluable chance at understanding the true meaning of a single word of it

>> No.20040501

>>20040474
ならばその一撃を見せるがいいんだ! 無理だと思うが, 失敗したらその一点でお前の週末に至るだね! フゥーハハハ!

>> No.20040506

>>20040501
始末*

>> No.20040526

>>20040501
*足を踏む*
どうだ!痛いんだろう!もう泣きそうだろう!伏したら許すかもしれんぞ?

>> No.20040537

>>20040526
この支配なる物を伏せるとでも言うのか? 冗談でもほどがあるんだね. マジで殺すぜ!

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