Crippling depression

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Did all the /jp/sies of the past really killed themeselves leading to a drop in board quality ? How do you deal with the constant existential dread ?

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Creativity, touhou, anime, and commitments.

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>>19990093

The last time I tried creativity I just went batshit insane with religious hermetic texts.

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>>19990111
Than try something else? Make a story or song, a video game or novel, something with that big brain of yours. Creativity is therapeutic.

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>>19990041
They moved to /r9k/ and created the current mindset. You should go too.

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>>19990120

Could it be that some people are bond to only reflect upon their malaise in existence ? I honestly think the best things can only be written or done through that lense but it is hardly therapeutic. To stay vaguely in board topic I'd say that Evangelion was such a masterpiece only because Anno was litterally batshit insane when he created everything.

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>>19990120
I find doing creative things to be very draining.

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Masturbating and escapism

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>>19990152
>malaise
Big word. Yes, you're right on the dot, mental illness and abnormal life problems do tend to lead towards very creative and original works. This may be very well due to positive disintegration, which usually culminates in artistic or fictional works. It may also be because their works are a direct outlet or response for whatever is causing them trouble, which makes the works much more passionate and personal than average. It is very likely theraputic,not the opposite.

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>>19990041
Why Yorihime?

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>>19990152
That's something else, William Burroughs called it the ugly spirit, it's art as a attempt in self-exorcism. I see art as communication, where an artist is trying to use physical mediums to allow you access to his feelings or thoughts or to attempt to generate them within you. To get special things you need an artist who has experienced or felt something interesting, and who has the ability to translate it across physical space. Perhaps it's some remnant of sympathetic magic surviving in the human subconscious.

Being creative is just "creating" though, it does not have to be artistic or unique despite the usual context of the word. And it's a lot of fun to labor for a tangible result.

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>>19990226
*and that by reproducing the "demon" in others through art you've freed yourself from it, if you suceed.

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>>19990242
Trauma builds character, it's mutually beneficial to induce that kind of thing in them as well, it's a symbiotic chain reaction.

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Since when was this your blog? Please fuck off back to /r9k/ or Tumblr.

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>>19990206

Only her could laugh at anon's existential struggle.

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>>19990306
Why did you click on the thread if you don't want to see the contents? No one's forcing you to go into any threads you don't like.

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>>19990368
This thread presented itself as a meta thread but quickly turned into someone's shitty blog.

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>>19990226

Quite similar to Weininger explanation of what constituted the platonician genius actually.

Is it me or is /jp/ particularly deserving of its etiquette of misunderstood geniuses headquarter's tonight ?

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>>19990374
No, no one's talking about anything more than personal antecdotes that relate to the discussion, this isn't anything near blogposting. Fuck off, not everything has to be 24/7 shitposting.

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>>19990187
>positive disintegration
What do you guys think of positive disintegration? I think he was onto something but I think it's a bit too linear and generalizing.

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Reminder that even if you don't kill yourself, you're going to end up becoming a weird lonely schizophreniac who believes in magic and conspiracy theories （゜∀゜）

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>>19990041
No, even worse. They chose to live.

>How do you deal with the constant existential dread?
Escapism.

>>19990374
I honestly miss when /jp/ was people's shitty life blogs, before all blogging became either the eternal victimhood party of /r9k/ and the or the nonstop pointless microblogging of the later /jp/ element.

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>>19990711

Still useful because psychology and sociology as a whole were litterally build around retarded concepts especially because Wittgenstein was buttblasted beyond recognition that Weininger may be fucking right about his whole "overtaking yourself" concept. The fact that he acknowledges it half-wordedly completely flew over the head of the modern Über Goys and as such a concept where struggle can be positive is incredibly useful. Wasn't the theorician behind positive disintegration polish by the way ?

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>>19990824
>They choose to live.
But where did they go?

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>>19990041
>constant
It;s not constant for me. If it was I'd be too depressed to do anything. I ignore the reality of reality.

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>>19990041
i killed myself when the idols took over it was the only way to preserve my honor

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>>19990041
Idolfaggotry drove them away.

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>>19990183
yes fap fap fap

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>>19990789
It's really funny that having atypical beliefs is considered insanity. Science takes the fun and wonder out of the world. Why can't I spend my days restoring the mysticism to the world? What's wrong with believing in magic or the paranormal? Why is it that if I tried to learn what different types of rain and storms represented what emotions the earth was communicating to us, whether it's tears of joy, tears of sadness, tears of relief or melancholy, why is that insane? Why is trying to figure things out for yourself insane? Why is saying "fuck you, science!" insane? Why do people so readily believe science as the one truth? It explains too much, it explains things that don't even concern us and our daily lives, why the fuck does it matter if the sun is eventually going to supernova? That's not going to matter in our lifetimes, or any time soon. Why is how miniscule our existence is in the big picture some kind of revelation or arguement? Sciencefags are silly and lack imagination. Why do you think Gensokyo is so great? Why are these things schizo? If it's schizo to believe those things, than where are the delusions, hallucinations, etc? Where are they? There not anywhere around here, that's for sure.

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>>19990834
He was indeed polish. Why are the Slavs so badass at everything?

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>>19993894

Because even abrahamist religions of today still consider at large that God created the world and then left it. Pantheism is basically anathema to the most prevalent religions on earth which is what actually lead to humanism and hardcore rationalism. You basically have both science and its unofficial daddy, God, against you.

Even Shinto with Amenominakabushi the creator God has come to see the world in such an hardcore pantheistic view that the world is for all intent and purpose completely mundane as the fact that this stupid cool looking rock is "magic" for nothing outside his cool looking aspect. Shinto mysticism is basically only "aesthetic" from my understanding. Even Buddhism has come to have a lot of that with the sutra lotus cosmogony and nicheren school of thought.

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>>19993894
Blindly rejecting science isn't any better than blindly accepting it. I don't get people who think science kills all fun and wonder though. I can't say I'm much into science myself, there's certainly wonder in learning about the workings and mysteries of the world around us. I hardly see the difference just because it doesn't necessarily match what people have thought up to be magic. While it's true that science us always being challenged and updated, that doesn't nean you can mark it all as bullshit. Saying it explains too much is a bit silly too.

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I'm always amazed by how /jp/ can have such retarded threads and post in general when it is apparently filled with litteral high ranking univeristy graduates.

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>>19994242
This thread's fine,go to /v/ for retarded threads. Why are you being a stick in the mud?
>she's in
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>smash bros
>npc
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>frogpost
>bethesda vs obsidian
>fallout 76
>todd

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>>19994292
I think he was saying most other threads suck, not this one.

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>>19994169
The wonder of science is all so mundane, it's just boring, the mysteries don't feel very mystic at all. It explains more than is necessary for daily living, science that directly benefits us in our daily lives is one thing, but taking the wonder out of the seas and the stars, nature and the earth itself is another. Science isn't fun, it's boring for the most part, really.

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>>19990041
God, I want Yorihime to look at me like that.

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>>19994325
Oh. In that case, it's because /jp/ likes dumb fun, and very lewd things. srs bsnss gets old quick.

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>>19994169
That's right, Yukari is a scientist, after all.
>>19994333
No reason the rational and mystical can't exist alongside each other, at least in your own mind.

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>>19994333

You won't be complaining so much about taking the mystery out of the vast universe when you'll be a space loli pirate cyborg in space WITHOUT scorbut due to a breakthrough in science.

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>>19994333
That just seems lacking in imagination. Mysticism isn't very mystical at all if it's just based on aesthetics, that's pretty shallow. Why does knowing about the great movements of the universe create less wonder then uneducated guesses? Why is learning about the creatures of the deep sea less fascinating than imagining up ones? More knowledge just creates more to imagine about. I don't get what's not interesting about getting confirmation that the world we live in is full of interesting things.

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>>19994381
Not just aesthetics, but filling in the blanks for yourself. The world was full of interesting things before modern science, that's one of the reasons Gensokyo is so cool. Superstition/imagination due to lack of explanation/mysticism of the unknown/not knowing what could be lying in wait where you haven't explored or even seen, these are things that trump the creative exploration of science, but >>19994379 and old-school sci-fi is getting onto something, maybe once science enables these things, maybe that sense of the unknown and mystical can be restored.
>space loli pirate cyborg
Sounds interesting...can you get more than one cyborg, different ones for different extremes of personality/appearance fetishes?
tfw no android tomoko with pirate hat and storm bolter

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>>19994482
Science asks more questions thsn it answers anon. There's tons of new blanks anon, more than ever before even. You just want to stick to the blanks our ancestors faced rather than exploring the new blanks.

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>>19990041
It's the post-general only /jp/ users that killed the board off.

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>>19991575
I think it's a combination of small circlejerks (chatrooms and imageboards), social media, and /a/.

>>19994495
If you enjoy the everyday wonder if life and the small mysteries then I'm sure science opens a lot of doors. In my book, though, the answers to the BIG questions are unsatisfying ("Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?") and so I try not to have anything to do with science.

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>>19994495

In his defence filling the blanks now require like 10 years of engineering. But I admit this anon is a big dum dum.

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Why have humans sought after the Great Ones, and the Eldritch Truth? Love, justice, petty hate, no... it's survival. Those humans who don't think past their tiny lifespans are great fools. Seek out more insight friends, seek out more insight.

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>>19994333
People have been led into a state where they believe they know everything. The world is still absolutely full of mysteries and interesting things. Most of the tenets of ancient pantheism weren't about explanations like why rain falls, that's a gross simplification, and there was a signification scientific tradition since Aristotle at the least. It was a way to revere your ancestors, and use rituals to emphasize and amplify important events. Gods were creatures that lived and died like anyone else, they could effect your fate but they didn't write it.
I tend to agree with one of the above posters that it's a sideeffect of monotheism and deterministic thinking that leads to a boring, frictionless universe. Even though agnosticism and atheism are prevalent in the west, people still think with the mind of a christian, only substituting their Canaanite war diety for an ideology or theory. In particular, I think the culprit of the idea of the dull universe is post-protestant reformation thought, where ritual was disseminated from a cultural ritual to an individual relationship. That allowed a huge sense of individual authority over what you believed, rather than keeping it confined to ritual and the remnants of the sage/mystic class who's purpose was to maintain it. In other words, the fact people feel like they can determine what they should believe destroys any legitimate belief, just new-age sycophants shopping for a religion that suits them like they're canned goods at a supermarket. And most importantly they're at the expense of others, if you are a muslim you cannot be a christian, and so on.
The old gods didn't exist at the expense of others, the pantheons were flexible and often integrated foreign gods which suited them, like Rome had temples to Isis and Serapis alongside the greek-derived gods. It's that kind of flexible thinking that makes reality interesting, as it's very boring to explore a space where choosing one path invalidates all others.

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>>19994554
>the answers to the BIG questions are unsatisfying ("Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?")
Implying science has answered those with any certainty.

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Kuso thread, fuck off to /r9k/, all of you.

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>>19994728
space dust
monkeys
oblivion

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sugoi thread
i'm enjoying every post

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>>19994795
Congrats on falling asleep during science class.

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>>19994817
Making Sumireko proud, why not consult your dreams for the great questions of life? Not that they'll give you any clear answers, but they may provide insights.

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>>19994707

Having written extensively about secularism (and why it doesn't fucking exist actually) albeit mainly in Japan I'd add to your post that atheism is for all intent and purpose inexistant absolutely everywhere beside a few intellectuals who thought it out and are sadly surrounded by litteral snowflakes who killed it as a legitimate current of thought as demonstrated by all their recent convention and forums who went from thousands of attendants to like 50 genderqueer hambeasts having heated debates about who was the most oppressed between the fat black women and the autistic and proud(TM) genderqueer neckbeards. I wish I was joking. They even have "baptism" and "gospel" and shit like that about self appreciation and whatnot. It has basically become new-age retardligion but even worse.
Agnosticism is certainly where it's at, still 80% of people in the supposedly atheist west still believe in the existence of the soul/a superior being and things like that. As you said protestantism and the ensuing individualism have completely annihilated any coherency in the field.

I'd like to write about Nichiren and Nichirenism one day, it is fascinating how such an incredibly prolesytizing and millenarist religious current came to be seen as the embodiment of self expression by many japanese intellectuals in the 20s and 30s even by Japan's and maybe the world's most "egoistic writter" of all time which name I can't recall at the moment. Some even made paralels between Nichiren and Inoue with Nietzche's Übermensch.

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>>19994931
Nigger if you wrote anything more extensive than the blabber of that first paragraph there my brain would have aneurysm upon reading it.

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>>19994989

The greatest distinction I got for my hundred pages thesis doesn't agree with you. I could actually teach you anon-kun~

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>>19995010
What profound insights(if any) have you gained through your various studies, or better yet dreamt of, my proud little boy?

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>>19995077

That actually every seemingly exagerated criticism toward Shinzo Abe as being a meanie fascist-light is actually true.

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>>19994778
How is this /r9k/-tier to you? If you don't like it, leave the thread.

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>>19995010
>universal shat genie hominid from the silk road