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Japan has opened their first hikikomori employment company where hikikomori can now work remotely at home while never leaving their rooms.

http://japan-and-me.com/hikikomori-company-new-way-forward/

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/web_tokushu/2018_0508.html

>> No.19986256

So basically remote working, something that is quite common in the western tech industry. Except, minus the skype conference / meeting? That is certainly a boon.

>> No.19987294

>>19986256


I know right.

>> No.19987940

>>19986256

Japan is a dying country.

>> No.19989995

bump

>> No.19990024

>>19986256
>minus the skype conference
Sounds compelling to me. Are there Western freelancing platforms that discourage use of Skype?

>> No.19990062

>>19987940
Jew pls leave.

>> No.19990078

>>19990062
check those trips

>> No.19990083

>>19990024
You mean ones that use Discord instead?

>> No.19990098

>>19990083
Email, anon. Email. Though IRC would be acceptable, too.

>> No.19990114

>>19990098
lol wtf is Email?

Seriously though, I've only ever used email in years to sign up for websites and barely even check it. I can't even make a new one nowadays because I'd have to buy a mobile phone. There's no legit reason to use IRC over skype or anything else. Who the hell uses email for anything but sign ups and mass mailing lists nowadays?

>> No.19990127

most places use skype or slack.

although most tech jobs that actually pay anything worth it require you to be on site. theres a lot of tech jobs that you can do at home that are barely above minimum wage and still require a shitlost of prereqs and years of experience.

>> No.19990211

>>19990114
>There's no legit reason to use IRC over skype or anything else.
Privacy. Skype and Discord shamelessly spy on you. Jabber/XMPP and Matrix are fine alternatives to IRC, though.
>I can't even make a new one nowadays because I'd have to buy a mobile phone
Are you aware of cock.li?
>Who the hell uses email for anything but sign ups and mass mailing lists nowadays?
I and my 30 y/o boomer friends, I guess.

>> No.19990249

>>19990211
Why should I care if skype spies on conversations with my company?

>> No.19990351

>tfw been working remotely for a year.
>tfw only communicate with coworkers over slack chat.

Japan pls, get on our level

>> No.19990358

>>19990351
who are you quoting?

>> No.19990361

>>19990358
>I'm quoting myself

>> No.19990417

>TFW will have to beg for state bux from China to be an underpaid researcher because you spend 5 years studying garbage and Japan is so retarded that if you are not C2 in Japanese language they won't ever take you in despite being a litteral fucking expert in their country

Fuck the nips. Not like they wouldn't pay me less than a 24/7 desk job anyway.

>> No.19990440
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19990440

>>19990114
I'm a freelance translator/editor, and so far practically every contact with outsourcers was through e-mail. Only about four of them have used Skype to contact me at some point, though many of them include their Skype username in the signature. And only two of them have ever called me. That probably owes to the fact I'm mainly looking for global clients due to generally low rates at the local market, and international calls cost too much.

Intra-company communications might be done via Skype, though.

>> No.19990673

>>19990351
You actually talk with you coworkers? Why?

>> No.19991425

What do you actually do when you work from home? How does your job measure your working time?

>> No.19993803

>>19991425
Their mom will be in charge of that.

>> No.19993846

>>19991425
Wake up, see if there are any tasks; if yes:
work, see if there are any other tasks, scroll imageboards, see if there are any other tasks, work, see if there are any other tasks, eat, scroll blogs, see if there are any other tasks, work whilst eating cookies, try to focus on work, see if there are any other tasks, work while still trying to focus, draw a doodle for a break, see if there are any other tasks, work, use music to help you focus, focus, finish the job, check the time, notice that it only took you 5 working hours, calculate the time-to-revenue ratio, be satisfied, see if there are any other tasks, browse pixiv, browse blogs, see if there are any other tasks, prepare dinner, eat dinner, see if there are any other tasks, recreate, see if there are any other tasks, go to sleep.

Kind of like this.

>> No.19994156

>>19993846

Looks like writing a thesis but with less alcoholism and reading thousands of pages of bullshit theories.

>> No.19994520

>>19993846
So you're expected to work all day but are only paid the same as those who work for like 8 hours or whatever?

>> No.19994581

>>19986106
Meanwhile people in the west are still being shamed for being introverted and wanting to spend their time doing "nerdy" stuff such as playing games or reading books, things that can actually help improve your intellect. Fucking based Nippon btfoing all normalfags.

>> No.19994630

>>19994581
>playing games can actually help improve your intellect.
lmao

>> No.19994654

>>19994630
>what is strategy games

>what is building/engineering games

>what is historical wargames/grand strategy games

>> No.19994685

>>19994630
>what is bloodborne

>> No.19994760

>>19994630

Sure it can, I learned English through it and logical thinking patterns. But it solely won't make one intelligent if he ignores studies and other things where intelligence is actually honed.

>> No.19994767

>>19994581
It's easy as fuck to work at home in the west, and society isn't any nicer to jap hikis

>> No.19994790

>>19994760
>studying

>making you intelligent

You can learn more from reading a single chemistry book than an entire year worth of chemistry class, homework and studying.

>> No.19994796 [DELETED] 

>>19994767
>It's easy as fuck to work at home in the west

Sorry grandpa, those "work at home" ads you've been seeing, well i hate to break it to you but they are scams.

>> No.19994802

>>19994520
Not in many cases. You're usually expected to complete a task before a deadline, and you are compensated according to the volume. The rates are usually larger than what regulars get in an hour.

>> No.19994866

>>19994790
By reading you mean studying a single chemistry book, right?

>> No.19994997

>>19994866

If university taught me one thing is that never going to class is the prefered procedure and retarded people can just ingurgitate anything to vomit it up at the test and get a great distinction while still being absolutely retarded in their own field.

t.a guy who knew people who got a great distinction working on Russia but still believed it had less inhabitants than the netherlands and didn't knew Chechnia even existed.

>> No.19999252

Hikikomori don't want to do real work, even if it's entirely online.

>> No.19999317

What if parents just stopped giving shut-ins money?? Problem solved!

>> No.20000172

>>19990127
I'm a consultant. Some jobs require some on-site work but right now I'm working remotely (I still go in to the office but only because I want to.) Skype is a must, though. Daily meetings in the morning and such. Still, considering some form of communication is required, Skype is better than nothing.

>>19990211
>Privacy
Most companies loan you a laptop to use for work, so if Skype is spying on anything, its really your company's problem and not yours. Just don't install it on your home computer and you're good.

>> No.20000194

>>19991425
>How does your job measure your working time?
If you're salary, all that matters are results and being present in certain meetings.

>>19994520
Not really. I focus on work for about 8 hours a day. After that, I do my own thing. I guess if you're in crunch time or have a strict deadline that could happen, but that's rare. On the other hand, some days you do less work because there's less to do, but you get paid the same, so it balances out.

>> No.20000201

>>19994997
Does knowing geopolitical trivia affect their work?

>> No.20000804

>>19999252
Hikki is not NEET.

>> No.20000888

>>19999252
>Hikikomori don't want to do real work, even if it's entirely online.

Not all hikikomori are neet.

>> No.20001595

>>19987940
all thanks to their backwards culture, honoru ova mental health

>> No.20002231

>>20001595
They weren't a dying country back when they were 10x about honor they are now.

>> No.20003973

>>19994997
u r rarted

>> No.20004430
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20004430

Japan wtf! you dont need to open a fucking company for the mentally ill you must send them to the mental hospitals!
there are 1.55 million fucking hikikomoris in Japan and the way they live and spend time with their fucking body pillows they are destroying glorious Japan....
when do they decided to create jobs for those fuckers why not fucking help them and fix their fucking brains which they don't have....
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

>> No.20004568

how do I make money without effort or action, enough to immediately travel to another country and live easily

>> No.20004723

>>20004568
kill yourself

>> No.20005870

>>20002231

Anon various countries were bombing their city centers into ash, forcing the urban dwellers out into the country to starve. They were literally dying, in a literal sense..

>> No.20006390

>>20004430
Go back

>> No.20006441

if I could be a hikki without being a NEET I'd do it in a heartbeat. No problem doing work, especially the kind you can do on a computer, it's dealing with other people I can't stand.

>> No.20006456

>>20004430
Opening up office work within the home just shows Japanese work culture is changing. The U.S has had home office works since the 80s and drasticly uncreated during the late 90s due to computer technology. In many ways it was more efficient too, not just on personal levels for employees but profit for the companies too. No company rental space for satalite brqnches is just one example.

The mold of Japanese business and work life has shifted and this is another indication.

I however do not see this shift as favorable or disfaorqble. I simply see the shift as a growth companies are willing to explore if it benefits them while maintaining "traditional" structure simultaneously. Only timewill tell what happens while watching the financial market within Japan.

>> No.20006459

>>20006456
Increased during the late 90s*

>> No.20006539

>>20004568
>> how do I make money without effort or action
Money like those who act. The only way to make money without effort or action is to be a beneficiary of something happening to others or performed by others. E.g., inheriting money from a deceased relative, getting money as a beneficiary of a rental agreement, and so on. You'd still have to at least sign some papers in any case, though....

>> No.20006799
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20006799

>>20004568
There's no such thing as money without effort anon

>> No.20007859

>>20006390
sorry i just need to say this,
here listen some anime music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSx_F5bJ94

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20008205

>>20004430
Hikkis are helping bring about National Syndicalism in Japan, once the labour market is small enough capitalism will collapse and all power will be in the hands of the working class.

>> No.20008274

Leave it to neoliberal scum to try and monetize a broken mental health care system

>> No.20008280

>>20008205
The falangists betrayed their syndicalist promises and spent most of their time in power defending free market global capitalism

>> No.20008294

>>20008205
>Hikkis are helping bring about National Syndicalism in Japan.

hikikis are living from their parents money...

who are you trying to fool?

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20008735

>>20008280
It was because Primo re Rivera was executed by the Republicans and that cuckservative dat Franco hijacked the movement.
>>20008294
They are abstaining from the labour market, shrinking it's wise and therefore making it easier to organize the workers and make their strikes more potent.

>> No.20009020

>>20008735
>make their strikes more potent.

Did you mean shitpost on the internet?

>> No.20009067

>>20009020
No, I mean strikes as in a labour strike, and by the workers, not the hikkis.

>> No.20009068

>>20008735
Franco abandoned syndicalist ideas years after the end of the civil war so he could attract foreign investment to rebuild Spain and shore up the stability of his regime. Syndicalism had largely failed as an economic model in conjunction with Franco's catholic authoritarianism, and Franco logically decided to jettison the former rather than the latter. It's likely that Rivera would have abandoned syndicalism as well, given that the leading motivator of the Falangists was preserving a quasi-traditional hierarchy rather than instituting wide-scale economic reforms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_miracle

>> No.20009351

>>20008735
Franco was based, fuck off commieweenie

>> No.20009386

>>20009351
You need to be 18 to post on this website.

>> No.20009405

>>20009386
says the underage b&

>> No.20009417

>>20009351
based on what?

>> No.20009455

I wish I was born in a first world country

>> No.20009469

>>20008294
>hikikis are living from their parents money
Hikkis didn't ask to be born. Maybe parents should learn to stop breeding randomly.

>> No.20009536

>>20009469
No living creature ever asked to be born, and people generally do not breed at random.

>> No.20011367

>>20009068
He abandoned them because he never truly believed in them in the first place, he never truly implemented Syndicalism and what Syndicalist policies he did adopt were merely to placate the Falangists and like the opportunist he was he abandoned them as soon as it became convenient for him.

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>> No.20011839

>>19986106

>> No.20012527

>>20004723
Best answer, you win.

>> No.20013831

>>20009469

We were all the fastest sperm. Saying you didn't ask to be born is just responsibility-dodging whine.

>> No.20014535

>>20013831
We were all just as much an ovum, lazily sitting there in the darkness and being attacked against our will. We are only guilty of not putting up enough resistance against the sperm horde.

>> No.20014675

>>20009469
Sex and child birth should be forbidden by law and punishable by death.

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>>20009469
>Hikkis didn't ask to be born.

then ask this guy why he made such a dangerous journey to live?

so hikki would just stay in the pee pee like he's staying in his room.

>> No.20014725

>>20014713
Nobody of us have any control over a sperm.

>> No.20014824

>>20014725
and no body ever will...
if you're feeling shit, remember that you where the strongest there.

>> No.20014831

>>19987940
Not really
These types of people have always existed, they just usually died in war or by disease
All the same, they probably wont procreate, and thus their unfit genes will not be passed on
Natural selection ensures a species is self cleaning

>> No.20014832

>>20014824
People should just stop breeding it is extremely irresponsible and selfish. Why the fuck does anyone even want children?

>> No.20014852

>>19991425
Salary jobs are straight pay with no relation to hours worked
They're usually found in corperate work where you have a finite number of tasks to complete at any given time, instead of constant work all shift long like other jobs have

>> No.20014871

>>20014832
if you will get old then who will take care of you?
and if we will stop breeding then who will continue our history?

if you are responsible and know when to have sex then you are fine.

if you are a fucking teen then you must be killed by a katana and be anal raped by an octopus.

>> No.20014892

>>20014871
Just attain immortality dummy.

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20014911

>>20014892
>Just attain immortality

visit Eirin to take some Aripiprazole.

>> No.20014962

>>20014832
because there is an unbroken chain from the very first living thing in this world to me, and I don't want it to end here

>> No.20015028

>>20014871
I will never get old I would rather kill myself than be old and depend on another.
Why the fuck should I care about out history?

>>20014962
Well it should because that way it would be better for everyone. Not more innocent being being forcefully born into a shitty world they never asked for.

>> No.20015219

>>20015028
you were taking the care of the little shit
their turn to wipe your ass.
simple.

>> No.20015710

>>19990098
Anyone who works in an office setting. It's a better paper trail and has replaced physical memos.

>> No.20016365

>>19986106

>> No.20016533

>>19990440
Not anymore, most corporations are switching to either Google Hangouts and/or Slack.

>> No.20017128

>>20014824
>where the strongest there.
that's not true at all actually
there's usually a ton of sperm competing to get into the egg and the one that gets in is just the one that gets luckiest finding the weakest point, possibly one weakened by other sperm already

>> No.20017212

>>19994997
This is true, I've skipped the majority of my classes for the past year and have studied the content intensely close to exams and not failed any.

>> No.20017314

>>20015219
I'm not going to wipe anyone's ass.

>> No.20017859

>>20008205
>all power will be in the hands of the working class
Is that what you call robots? Japan is far behind the West in software, but still one of the leaders in robots. It will be among the first countries to suffer from massive unemployment total due to automation.

>> No.20017878

>>20014832
>Why the fuck does anyone even want children?
Because those who don't want children don't have children and those who want children have children.

>> No.20017898

>>20017859
due to total automation*

>> No.20024989

but digital anonymous freelancing has been a thing for over a decade - mechanical turk, UHRS and clickworker to name a few.

>> No.20025182

>>19990211
Who cares if they spy on you, you're not even worth anything.

>> No.20025582

>>20025182
We'll eventually be thralls to big global corporations seeking to extract every little bit of value from our daily lives. For instance every smartphone will come auto-installed with a coinminer, and if you try to disable it you'll be sued for violating the ToS
>>20017859
Look into cybernetic organization as an alternative to automation hellworld

>> No.20028499

>>20025582
>you'll be sued for violating the ToS
Its not like they can get a penny from a NEET.

>> No.20030715

>>19986106

>> No.20033558

>>20008205
>once the labour market is small enough capitalism will collapse and all power will be in the hands of the working class.
Wrong, that will be the point where mass seppuku in the streets will take place.

>> No.20036139

>>19986106

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>>20025582
The only real way to prevent human obsolescence is for everyone to get nuked back into the stone age.

>> No.20037620

>>19986106
Amazing.

>> No.20037622

>>19990440
Do you translate nip? What kind of stuff do you work on?

>> No.20037638

>>19994767
How? NEET in need of a some source of income before I become homeless. I'm incompetent, have no social skills, no techincal skills, and hate people.

>> No.20037688

>>20037638
Then don't post here and go learn something, all the knowledge of the world is at your fingertips.

>> No.20037715

>>19994790
You're correct, but just admit that reading something by yourself is a form of studying too. Self-study is the best way to learn something, yeah, especially nowadays when we have internet, but it's studying nonetheless.
P.S. Schools suck and unis suck too.

>> No.20041538

>>19986106

>> No.20044171

>>20037622
Onahole tester.

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