/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

TOKYO, Japan (CNN) -- Japan executed four convicted killers on death row on Thursday, the government said, marking the first set of executions in the country since October 2008.

All four criminals were hanged, Japan's primary method of execution, the Justice Ministry said. The ministry identified the inmates as: 58-year-old Tadashi Makino, convicted of murdering four women in separate home invasion robberies; 44-year-old Yukinari Kawamura and 39-year-old Tetsuya Sato, both convicted of killing two women and burning their bodies in steel barrels; and 16-year-old Natsumi Tsuji, convicted of violently murdering a classmate.

The executions represented blatant human rights violations, said Amnesty International spokesman Makoto Teranaka. "Japan is going against the rest of the world by increasing the pace of executions, at a time when other countries are slowing their pace."

[Anonymous No.]

good, they deserve what they get.

[Anonymous No.]

>represented blatant human rights violations

And the murders didn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994876

OH YOU.

[Anonymous No.]

They're murderers, they were tried, convicted, sentenced to death and lawfully executed. Where's the problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994878
Supposed to be some shit about giving them the chance they didn't give their victims or something. Utter horseshit.

[Anonymous No.]

I would have preferred if they got life imprisonment in a 3 tatami room with no contact to the outside world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994892

Hikki sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

Amnesty International are a bunch of whiny faggots, methinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994884

Some laws are unjust.

[Anonymous No.]

>16-year-old Natsumi Tsuji, convicted of violently murdering a classmate.
°ε°

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994897

An eye for an eye, you liberal dog.

[Anonymous No.]

lol, death penalty + lol, hanging.

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[Anonymous No.]

Once again, Japan trumps the rights of it's citizens and plunges ever closer to a dictatorship. STOP STATE-SANCTIONED MURDER NOW! FREE THE INNOCENT! JUSTICE FOR ALL, AND ALL FOR JUSTICE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994884
Amnesty International is the problem. Just like UNICEF and PETA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994898
Pretty sure that's the only relevant part here, but let's the old /n/ fags frolic around just for this time(or until deletion).

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994898

(╬ ಠ益ಠ) <A MANLY CRIME

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994893
Minus the Internet, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994900
What about the corrupt justice that never lets anyone go even if they are innocent to keep their samurai honor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994905

The innocent are free. The guilty can rot, and those who have given up their humanity can die like dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

Murder is wrong, therefore we'll murder our citizens.

Hey, wait a minute...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994884
There is always the very slim chance that they didn't actually do it, which has happened often enough in the past. What's wrong with life imprisonment? Execution is not going to deter anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994917

The primary role of execution is deterrence. If you know that if convicted of a violent crime you will be swiftly put to death, you're less likely to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994900
An impulsive kill is not murder.
You have to look at the big picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994922
Yeah that explains why said crimes are always on the rise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994922
> swiftly
i.e. 20 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994922
That's the idea behind it, it doesn't actually happen that way in practice.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

"In some countries individual problem humans may be put down, but more often they are caged." -Predators

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>>1994926

Are you an idiot? Someone had been killed. It doesn't matter if it's not premeditated. If it was entirely accidental, manslaughter. Otherwise, Murder 1. That's my opinion, at least.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty much of two minds about this.

On one hand, Japan has a ridiculously high conviction rate- something like 90% of trials go to the "guilty" verdict. You're pretty much guilty until proven innocent. So there's a chance those people did not commit those crimes.

On the other hand, there's a good chance they DID commit those crimes, in which case I'd rather they be executed than take up valuable resources dicking around in prison.

Also, the method of execution is a little behind the times. Hanging is a very brutal way to kill someone.

So basically, in theory I support the death penalty (if the person actually did kill someone else in cold blood) but in reality a significant percentage of false convictions exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994952

Not if done properly. You aren't supposed to choke to death. When you fall, your neck is intended to snap, killing you within seconds.

It's more humane than lethal injection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994957
That's like saying, if done properly, beheading is a perfectly humane way of killing someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994922
Take a criminal psychology class. Chance of punishment is the strongest deterrent, not severity. If you always got punched in the face for taking a candy bar, you'd fucking stop taking candy bars. But if people got shot in the face for it 10% of the time, most people would think "well I probably won't get caught if I'm smart about it."

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994876
>and 16-year-old Natsumi Tsuji, convicted of violently murdering a classmate.
Fucking asshole, you almost made me piss myself.

>>1994916
If the blatant faggotry continues in this thread I'm going to report it for moral-faggotry and irrelevant /n/ews. More Nevada-tan and less justice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994922

Or once you've commited murder once there isn't any reason not to continue as the punishment is the same, death.

[Anonymous No.]

By killing people itself, a government teaches its citizens that murdering someone is a viable solution to a problem you have with that person. That's probably why countries with death penalty tend to have higher murder rates than those without.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994957
>It's more humane than lethal injection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994957
>done properly
>Japan
Well, there's your problem.
>>1994975
Stop getting trolled by old /n/.
>>1994981
Pretty sure OP is laughing his ass off, congratulating himself on how good of a troll he is.

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>>1994974
I don't get it, is that supposed to make the poster you're replying to go "OH MY GOD, YOU'RE RIGHT, I NEVER REALIZED!"
Is something more humane if there is less blood involved? Like how those sticky mouse traps are humane, while the ones that snap the mouse's neck(or if there is a problem, smashes the mouse's head/throat) are inhumane?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994986
Like how Japan has a high murder rate as opposed to Britain?

[Anonymous No.]

More like the pace of erections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994974

Isn't it? The nerves are severed before pain can register, you gasp for a second or two, then close your eyes forever...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995005

You fall asleep before you die in a lethal injection. It's not an injection of liquid bleach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995000
No, pretty sure everyone calls those sticky mouse traps inhumane as hell. A better comparison would be cage traps and then throwing the mouse out into the wild to starve to death or get mauled by a bored but not even hungry cat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994997
>Stop getting trolled by old /n/.

So many people actually think like that (herpderp if we kill murderers then no1 will murder nemore NOBEL PEACE PRIZE PLZ) that I doubt it's a troll.

If so, well played.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995009

so both methods are equally humane if done properly, but one is faster and does not cost 50,000.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995017
>one is faster and does not cost 50,000.
ur dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995020

I disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god all of you just stop trying to guess what the least painful way to die is and actually research this shit or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994876
>16-year-old Natsumi Tsuji, convicted of violently murdering a classmate.

Well done... Fuck you OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995023

The least painful way to die is opiate overdose. Murderers do not deserve any such thing. They should be killed in the method they ended the lives of their victims.

[MahatmaGandi No.]

>>1994900
and soon the whole world is blind, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

It's sad how this thread turned out when we could have been praising the name of Nevada-tan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995015
Some of the posts have been done by OP himself to heat up the thread. Not to mention that if you can't notice the HUGE GLARING FALLACY of this "news" you probably don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1994945
Is the penalty for manslaughter death?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16-year-old Natsumi Tsuji, convicted of violently murdering a classmate.
That's her name?
She's sixteen years old?

[Anonymous No.]

>16-year-old Natsumi Tsuji, convicted of violently murdering a classmate

I read this as Nishijo Takumi

god dammit

[Anonymous No.]

Go argue TM powerlevels on /tg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995031

No, it's probation to 15 years, depending on circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm kinda surprised and happy about this.
Murderers should be executed, since that's what they fear most and what can most deter future criminals.
As for the way of execution, it really doesn't matter as long as it's effective and not intended to torture them, since you are killing them anyway.
Hanging seems quite reasonable, it's simple, effective, inreversible and few things can go wrong with it. Shooting may cause some mess and cause more shock to the executioner while injection is expensive and wasting tax money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995036
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995047
0/10, try to be less obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995036

oh wow. Poor Misumi-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995047
>Murderers should be executed, since that's what they fear most and what can most deter future criminals.
It's so cute that you believe this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995055

Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995047
Not happy with your thread getting more than 50+ posts, OP?

[Anonymous No.]

I see what you did there OP.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1821435~Japan_hangs_4_convicted_killers.html

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe it took me this long to notice the part OP added.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought Japan only executed middle-aged pensioners for white-collar crime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>I can't believe it took me this long to notice the part OP added.
Probably because you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

http://iiichan.net/boards/nchan/res/107.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995065

I am the OP. 5 posts in this thread are mine, that is not one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995083
Or it could be because haven't participated in this thread and just passed it by on the front page a couple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995047
>Murderers should be executed, since that's what they fear most and what can most deter future criminals.

Read >>1994975

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>>1995091
>>baw i tuk a klas i r smrt bkause klas r smrt

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[Anonymous No.]

Why would anyone ever in the history of the universe murder women? You're wasting good sex slaves that way and you're already going to be hanged.

As for my beliefs on capital punishment, it's simple logic that I feel works for me. If I put a sign up at the edge of a cliff with a warning that says: "If you jump off this cliff you will die" and someone jumps off the cliff it's their choice to die. If I put up a sign that says, "If you murder someone you will die" and they murder someone, it's their choice to die.

I honestly feel that most human rights activists are uttering bullshit in order to feel better about some criminal who doesn't deserve a moment of our consideration and time.

Just my beliefs. continue on.

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>>1995095
Why would you even need to take a class for that? It's called logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995103
What? Proving that there are bigger fucktards in this board than you, OP? That goes without saying.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait. What about the guy who went on a killing spree in Akihabara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995091
except the ways of punishment have nothing to do with the rate of conviction.
death penalty doesn't mean you should or need to convict less criminals, which is very wrong.
now with a consistent rate of conviction, do you still think somehow capital punishment is less effective than life imprisonment which basically means you will get released at an old age.

[Anonymous No.]

Executions should be brutal and televised on on every channel, say, at 6PM once a month. One of the reasons people commit murder is because they're not afraid of getting caught.

[Anonymous No.]

There's something else I'd like people to think about. If I'm lividly angry at someone and I kill them I've ended their ability to live, change, have children, influence society etc and I continue to live it's putting the power in the hands of the criminal isn't it?

I can think to myself, I can end this man's existence for pissing me off and all that'll happen to me is life in prison where I still have choices, I'll still be capable of "repenting" and getting out of prison, I'll still be able to find some way of breaking out or serving my time till I'm set free but the person I killed is gone, he no longer has choices. If I hated someone enough, it sounds like a fair deal to me, he's gone forever and I continue to live.

I would never want anyone having the idea that murder will not go punished with death. If I kill someone I die is a pretty damned good deterrent. Check out some Arabic countries for instance, you steal something they cut your damn hand off, do it again and there goes the other one. Guess how many people are thieves in those countries?

We may not like it but capital punishment as a deterrent does seem to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995120
Executions should be commited in public and awarded by impromptu lottery to random passerbys.

[Anonymous No.]

>Guess how many people are thieves in those countries?
More than you can imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

>> One of the reasons people commit murder is because they're not afraid of getting caught.

[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995132
>Guess how many people are thieves in those countries?
Many. They are too poor to do anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>We may not like it but capital punishment as a deterrent does seem to work.

[citation needed]

[Paranonymous !!3EhbF+96L03 No.]

>>1995132
The Western World whines about a lot of things, but they fail to realize that these other cultures are much older and more advanced than their own.

If something has worked for a long time, why the fuck would they stop?

(I briefly lived in the K.S.A. where beheadings were public for murderers, rapists, terrorists and the sort. I hardly witnessed any crime by locals. Only sometimes with niggers on motorbikes robbing women but they'll get what is coming to them.)

[Anonymous No.]

you fags supporting capital punishment should all go back living to the goddamn middle ages , since you -ignorant fuckers- didn't understand a shit about how a contemporary society is supposed to work.

on this point, japan proved to be even more retarded than amerikka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995132
Tons. Also bloodthirsty since they don't want to be caught.

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>>1995163
>> If something has worked for a long time, why the fuck would they stop?

Who says it works? I doubt crime rates are significantly lower than in most Western nations. Besides, if I hated someone so much that killing him or her becomes my sole reason d'être, I would no longer care for my own life. In fact, I would probably prefer death over a life sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995163
>more advanced

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>>1995157
The recorded rate of crime for offenses like rape, burglary, and larceny is very low compared to Japan - usually about 10%, and sometimes a great deal more.

When it comes to homicide, it's closer to 2/3rds - close to Qatar, and other barbarous countries such as Spain and Norway. The car theft rate is actually about 50% higher than Japan and about half that of the U.S.

I guess the lesson we can take away from all this is that rape and pillage are bad but murder and carjacking are awwwright.

[Anonymous No.]

Murderers shouldn't die, they're innocent, like all human beings. Peace, bro! Chill out and smoke some weed!

[Anonymous No.]

In Japan, Shiki would get the death penalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995194
>barbarous countries such as Spain and Norway.
Is funny because it's true.

[Anonymous No.]

Eurotrash hate the death penalty which is why they have so much crime.

Thought experiment suckers.

You will get a red hot poker up you if you do action x(whatever). Are you going to do it?????

You will get a $100 fine if you do action x(whatever). Are you going to do it? Maybe if it is worth it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995196
Get back to niggerland, you nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

Ooooh boy, I sure missed old /n/.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: we know nothing about psychology. Also trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995205
http://www.unhabitat.org/downloads/docs/5202_7063_Bk%201.pdf
- also list Cyprus, but omit because Cyprus is not a real country

[Anonymous No.]

Japan only has a lower crime rate than most other countries because they are Asians and asians don't commit crimes most of the time its done by half asians or immigrants

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>>1995238
>>ITT: we know nothing about psychology.
more like we didnt' learn anything from schools and studies about world's and society's story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995226
Not enough JEWS AND NIGGERS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1995259
I have a PhD in Psychology, trust me, I know what I am talking about.