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1993044 No.1993044 [Reply] [Original]

You know what?

Sakura, I get. I don't completely agree, but I can at least understand where everyone is coming from.

But what's the deal with Ciel? Honestly, what's not to like?

Was it too much ecchi?

>> No.1993048

Ciel's a fine woman and my choice of waifu; all the hate is because of a meme based on a doujin.

>> No.1993049

She tries to kill pretty much every girl you try to get off with.

Also, REPRESS ROA IN MY ASS isn't as much of a turn on as you'd think it'd be.

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>>1993044

>> No.1993051

She tries to kill pretty much every girl you try to get off with.

Also, SUPRESS ROA IN MY ASS isn't as much of a turn on as you'd think it'd be.

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>>1993050

>> No.1993060

>>1993051

I blame Shiki's miserable lack of skills in mediation for the fights.

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>>1993058

Ciel is shit, right?

>> No.1993066
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1993066

Shit thread?

>> No.1993071

Okay, so you take a girl who holds absolutely no appeal to you in personality or appearance, and you force yourself through her whole route, that was way too long, because you'd feel left out if you didn't play all routes, and eventually you end up hating her.

>> No.1993072
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1993072

>Was it too much ecchi?

No, it was too shitty.

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>>1993061

>> No.1993078
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1993078

OP is a troll. We all know that there are no Ciel fans.

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>> No.1993098

>>1993051
She's a secret yandere in disguise, what's not to love?

>> No.1993100
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>> No.1993103

>>1993098

More like shitdere, amrite?

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>> No.1993108

>>1993071
...I think whether or not somebody holds appeal is up to the individual, don't you? And I personally thought Ciel was great.

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>> No.1993114
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>> No.1993119
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1993119

She's okay as a character, but I like every other TM heroine more. I had to try really hard to not make pro-Arcueid choices through Ciel's route.

Um, maybe it was just a bad first impression? When you see her the first time, it's at the school, and her outfit is pretty atrocious.

Otherwise, she's okay, but she is definitely my least favorite.

Pictured is my favorite.

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1993129

Hating Ciel is like hating Horo.

>> No.1993132
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1993132

Shitty character is shitty.

>> No.1993137

I hate meganekko.

>> No.1993142

>>1993129
Obviously not, since everyone loves Horo.

SEVEN APPLES ON THE WITCH'S TREE

>> No.1993143
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>>1993044
Op i think it's because the other heroines rode their cliche moe traits alot harder than ciel did.
The ditzy playful innocent blonde
The tsundere authoritative imouto
The shy derere shiki-sama maid
The wild kinky energetic sneaky maid

seems to grab people more than:
The meganekko pageboy-cut mature loving sempai

also the whole nun thing puts people off, even though it was supposed to mean she likes cosplay, not that she's a nun...

That said Ciel is still my waifu.

>> No.1993145

>>1993107
What is thi from?

>> No.1993148
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>>1993143

Lol troll.

>> No.1993150

She has no redeemable qualities and only seems to attract idiots.

>> No.1993153
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>> No.1993151

IT's been too long since I played Tsukihime, remind me how Shiki managed to wake up from that situation? Wasn't that an almost certain death/coma thing?
I remember thinking "what the hell? not even an explanation why?"

>> No.1993154

>>1993119

Careful how you talk about her uniform. She repays the criticism with violence.

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>>1993044
hair was ugly, too short to be shoulder length, too long to be reverse-trap hair moe. It's like she went to a drunken barber
old man glasses
outfits were ugly
personality was annoying
h-scene was awful
only redeeming factor was her tattoos, which you rarely see anyway

>> No.1993158

>only redeeming factor was her tattoos, which you rarely see anyway
WHERE THE HELL WERE THE TATTOOS DURING THE H-SCENE?
DAMMIT, THAT WAS HALF THE APPEAL!

>> No.1993165

>>1993158

She gets her tattoos from cereal boxes.

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>>1993154
I am not scared. My bros are lookin' out for me.

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I highly enjoy these threads *sip*

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>>1993155

Okay, the /h/ was awful, but like with the whole attacking Arc thing, I completely blame Shiki for that nonsense.

Actually, now that I think about it, I guess it counts as a major character flaw that she's into Shiki at all.

Oh Ciel, you deserve better.

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>>1993143
Waifu-sharing brofist, anon.

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>>1993168

>> No.1993184

>>1993176

Why would anyone save something so disgusting?

>> No.1993188

Shiki is too nationalistic to end up with a french nun. Green tea > english tea; where are my japanese rooms?; fucking western mansion; I am reserved even with my relatives!

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>>1993184
Because beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

>> No.1993195

>>1993191

No, just no.

>> No.1993196

>>1993195
...Yeah, okay. That one was saved more for the art than the Ciel.

It's good art, they just need to work on faces.

>> No.1993198
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1993198

Ciel because she is the only heroine other than kohaku with poison or possibly hisui's cooking that could actually KILL shiki.

Arc is strong, but not fast enough, shiki could dot or dismember her.

Akiha loses to shiki in a fight during one of the arcs so that shits fucking CANNON

>> No.1993202

>>1993198
>Arc is strong, but not fast enough, shiki could dot or dismember her.
Don't think so, bro. She saved him when that Nero scout jumped at his neck. That and she only had something like 20% of her power.

>> No.1993203

>>1993198
You did not do that.

Please tell me you did not bring powerlevels into a curry ass thread.

>> No.1993204
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>>1993198
> hisui's cooking that could actually KILL shiki

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>>1993203
>Dragon > snakes
You cannot deny the canon.

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>>1993198

>that shits (sic) fucking CANNON

Actually, this is cannon.

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1993212

Not even Shiki can kill the concept of shittiness in Ciel.

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>>1993203
>curry ass

>> No.1993217

>>1993188

Green tea is for faggots.

Black is the way to go.

>> No.1993218

>>1993209
actually that is not a cannon because it fires a cartridge rather than a loose projective and the barrel is rifled. Technically it is a rifle.

>> No.1993225
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1993225

The hair is tomboyish. I'm into that. I like the glasses. It's kind of silly to let something like that put you off.

The outfits never bothered me. It's a school uniform, give the girl a break. The nighttime outfits, too. What did you expect from the church, a miniskirt and clear heels?

Arc fights other heroines too, for the exact same reason of being possessive and overprotective. And she threatens to kill you, not because she's on a mission, but just because you're trying to break up the fight. What gives?

I've heard a lot of vague complaints about the personality, but no specific ones.

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Anon is just tsundere for Ciel

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>>1993225

tl;dr

Ciel is just shit

>> No.1993236

>>1993225
Sacchin looked fine it. It's just that the colors didn't mesh well with her short blue tomboyish hair.

It's not that I didn't like her, it's that I liked Arcueid more. So the entire route I'm thinking "man, I'd rather be choosing Arc than Ciel."

Executioner outfits look fine. She is much more suited to those.

>> No.1993237

>>1993228
I'm not! I just love her, plain and simple.

>> No.1993242

>>1993218

Fine, it's a rifled gun.

I was wrong.

>> No.1993244

>>1993234
Oh, right, Ciel-sensei looks much better than Ciel-senpai. I forgot about that part entirely.

>> No.1993245

>>1993044
Sakura vs Ciel ?
My vote goes for Sakura. At least she comes with Rider. I'm not very fond of Nanako.

>> No.1993246

>>1993218
every gun that is too big to be held now-a-days is called a canon.

the shell just means it can be reloaded faster/easier.

>> No.1993255
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1993255

Kara No Kyokai was here.
2nd gen characters are faggots.

>> No.1993254

She kinda looks like she has a mullet.

>> No.1993257

>>1993246
a canon?

>> No.1993261

>>1993245

Sakura is very fappable, even if her personality is shit while Ciel is shit in both worlds.

>> No.1993263

>>1993255

inb4 blue-haired Touko

>> No.1993270

>>1993257
yeah, you use canon to penetrate plotarmour.
They fire story piercing fan stabilised discarding reality rounds, (SPFSDR).

highly effective.

>> No.1993271

>>1993257
that's not a canon
it's a sord

>> No.1993272

>>1993255

Funny thing is, Ciel is the 1st AND last of her kind.

>> No.1993273

>>1993236

I was in the mood for a ditz the first time I started up Tsukihime, and Arc was clearly supposed to be that, but she got drowned in her own obligation to fill in the audience, which made half of her conversations with Shiki A Brief History of Vampires, and the other half of it was Shiki ruining the mood and being a dumb cunt.

She probably should be better, but going only by what's in Tsukihime, Arc has got to be my least favorite heroine.

I wound up taking Ciel's route first and it's still my favorite. Not just for the heroine, but also for Shiki's behavior in it.

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If only she were more like her prototype.

>> No.1993280

>>1993236
Yeah, she does look better in her executioner and nightwalking outfits. Mostly because those actually match her hair color.

As for Arc... I just never liked her. I mean, I can understand a little bit of forgiveness of a person who will be useful to you, but even when she finds out Shiki's not some experienced killer of men, she's still completely forgiving of him killing her.

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>>1993270
at first i was like
but then i lol'ed the fuck up

>> No.1993286

>>1993280

We can assume Arc is remotely intelligent and doesn't buy it.

Shiki doesn't even know he's predisposed to vampire slaying thanks to being a Nanaya, so technically Arc's first guess was right.

>> No.1993288

Ciel is liked by the dramafags who like the OH SO TOUCHING plot twist about the prospect heroin betraying the hero

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Used goods was here.
Hisui is a faggot sister.

>> No.1993296

>>1993288

But there are no Cielfags. troll only pretend to like her.

>> No.1993297

>>1993288
...I don't see why you have to make fun of that. I'm sure I could make a blanket statement too, about the people who like Arc.

>> No.1993299

>>1993288
Heroin will never betray me ;_;

>> No.1993300

>>1993296
gee, it sure is Tsukihime anime around here

>> No.1993302

>>1993296
There are no anti-Cielfags, only trolls who pretend to hate her.

>> No.1993307

>>1993300
>>1993302

Trolls.

>> No.1993316

>>1993273
I cannot blame Shiki's faults on any of the other heroines. I do hold that Ciel's route is better than Arcueid's, but as far as the characters are concerned I like Arcueid a lot more than Ciel. I like Akiha the most though.

Also, it was my first venture into the Nasuverse and I liked the explanations Arc gave, so the explanations didn't really bug me all that much.

>> No.1993317

>>1993296
>>1993307
thanks, this reminds why I'm trying to keep the fuck out of this board as much as I can.

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>>1993288

Hey, it was touching.

When you think about it, these self-inserts do pander to us perhaps a bit much.

It was kind of a fun kick in the head when the waifu of choice came out and said "um yeah actually I was sent here to track and if necessary assassinate you, our whole friendship, never mind relationship, was basically a sham before day one."

As if a cute, smart girl would just have a sudden, inexplicable interest in you and spend all her spare time with you and your retarded friend at school. It's only natural that such a charade would have to come crashing down on that naive sucker sooner or later.

Oh God it's just like real life. Maybe that's why everyone hates her.

>> No.1993321

>>1993317

No one cares.

>> No.1993323

>>1993145
If you happen to still be reading: "Tamate Note".

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I played F/SN before Tsukihime.

When I was doing Akiha's route, I chose to behead Ciel.

Don't get me wrong. I did Ciel's route first and she's my favorite heroine, I just thought that was the thing I was gonna have to do. Like in HF. I dunno.

Anyway, I remembered how Taiga dojo worked, and Taiga doesn't show up when you get the bad end during her kidnapping, because she was kidnapped and all.

So I took Ciel's lesson fully expecting to see Ciel's decapitated body imparting the following sage wisdom: "HRGLGLURGLMRGL"

>> No.1993349

>>1993341
>I chose to behead Ciel

Good work anon.

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>>1993044
She is better in Higurashi.

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>>1993349

Quiet, you.

>> No.1993361

Ciel? More like Shit-el! Amrite?

>> No.1993372

>>1993353
I agree, big improvement there.

>> No.1993374

>>1993357

Ciel is mue~

>> No.1993375
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How old was Ciel supposed to be?

She's gotta be in, like, her early thirties or some shit.

What's she doing falling for teenage Japanese school boys?

What a cougar.

>> No.1993383

>>1993375
She's probably around that, but she hasn't aged since Roa left her and Shiki was born, so physically she's his age. And since she was turned into a tool of the church, she's mentally his age, too.

>> No.1993392

>expecting the following sage wisdom: "HRGLGLURGLMRGL"
I lol'd.
Good job!

>> No.1993393

>>1993375
Born in 1976.

>> No.1993395
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Fuck you all.

>> No.1993398

>>1993395
;_;

Even those of us that support Ciel through these hard times? That hurts, anon...

I'm still saving that image, though.

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1993401

sup fags, I wake up and there's a thread just for me. Awesome.

>> No.1993403

>>1993393
Sauce?

>> No.1993405

>>1993375

The unofficial timeline puts her at about 6 and a half years older then Shiki so she's about 23 during Tsukihime.

Come to think of it one question I've been meaning to ask about Ciel, she hypnotized everyone into thinking
she was a member of the school, but how did that work on Shiki with his glasses?

>> No.1993406

>>1993401
...God dammit, why do you always have to come in and ruin Ciel threads? I can handle most trolls, but you...

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>>1993383

I wouldn't say mentally.

What with the whole JUST AS PLANNED.

Getting cut up for a month and then being an assassin probably does shit to your psyche.

She seems jaded but just enough to be fun, not enough to be completely stone cold.

>> No.1993412

>>1993401

Shit, right?

>> No.1993413

>>1993393
wasn't Ellesia born in the 19th century? Gods, do I need to play her route again?

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>>1993405
His glasses didn't do shit or were very specialized.

After all, remember immediately after this, when he asked her to find his glasses but was wearing them the entire time? I think it was a placebo. He could probably turn his eyes off, if he knew how, but since they're thought to not exist, nobody knows enough about them to teach him.

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>>1993406
>CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM
>why do you have to come in and ruin Ciel threads?

ಠ3ಠ

>> No.1993424

>>1993411
I meant more in terms of human relationships, of course. But you're right; there's no way she's his age mentally in anything other than relationship terms (if she wasn't, she probably would've finished him off in the end).

>> No.1993425

>>1993405

What do his glasses have to do with anything? The only thing they do is filter out the lines.

>> No.1993434

>>1993413

Nobody uses "gods" as an interjection outside of hipster faggots.

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>>1993413
learn to spell, nigger

>> No.1993433

>>1993420
From my perspective, you do. I'm sure you enjoy it, but I, at least, do not, and would appreciate if you didn't do it again.

>> No.1993435

>>1993433
Me again.

>>1993432
....I take it back. Carry on, good sir.

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>>1993433
Never said I don't, but it's my place to, doho, 'shit up' her threads. :3c

>> No.1993440

>>1993437
And yet for some reason I save most of the images you post.

Why do you post such great images alongside terrible stories?

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>> No.1993442

>>1993413
Apparently not according to the manga.

>> No.1993446

>>1993433

What, exactly, does he do?

Besides post a couple of Ciel images.

>> No.1993452
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>>1993440
Because I have a shit ton of Ciel pics, plus my waifu is a drawfag. Though I really need to organize my shit, as Ciel is all over the place like curry on my face, bro.

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>>1993446
Also I don't get it either, as I'm one of the few people on /jp/ who doesn't just post the same 'its shit right' pics over and over in every thread even lightly related to Ciel.

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>>1993452

Whenever you're looking for an image, all you can think is "why the hell don't I organize this shit, goddamn"

But when you finally decide to start organizing, after a minute or two all you can think is "what the hell am I doing, Christ what a waste of time"

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>> No.1993471

>>1993446
It may not have been him, but someone using the name 'CurryButt' posting a particularly disgusting piece of fanfiction that involved Ciel quite literally shitting curry.

Was that not the real CurryButt?

>> No.1993481

>>1993471

I'm sorry I asked. Let's pretend nobody said anything about it.

>> No.1993490

I am eating...I am eating...curry. Om nom nom, fresh, straight from the cook. It's piping hot and the steam from it burns my eyes a little, the smell is strong, and the flavor intense. "Oh Ciel, please give me some more, i'm still hungry!". I don't think i've ever come across curry as rich as this before, the flavor takes over all my senses. I can't take it anymore, I want more of this spicy deliciousness. I find the place it's coming from, its a hole, and I notice Ciel is looking the other way. The hole isn't big enough for me to use the spoon, but around it is soft tissue. I pull it open and decide to just use my tongue to scoop out the curry. I notice another area near the curry hole, dripping with something, so I taste it. The flavor is that of salty milk and coins, I quickly return to the curry to remove the taste. While eating the curry, I hear a gurgling noise...suddenly a hot gust of air billows out of the hole and the curry begins flowing at an amazing pace. The smell, the taste, the heat, it all comes pouring out of the hole with such force...soon it's all over my face and the floor, I'm slathered in it, enjoying it, loving it. I begin lapping it off the floor. My hands are covered in it, i begin rubbing it into myself. The heat is so intense that it begins to make my penis erect...as the curry pours out, I get closer and closer to orgasm. In the background I can hear Ciel moaning in discomfort.

Making Curry must be hard work.

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>>1993437

L'~ARC~EN~CIEL

>> No.1993501

>>1993481
Too late, you faggot.

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>>1993471
:3c

I wrote it way back when /jp/ first was made, anon loved it and still wants a part 2, but I'm busy mustervating and whatnot. Also you can just call it Currypasta ಠ3ಠ

>> No.1993510

I hated Ciel before the memes.

>> No.1993515

>>1993440
see
>>1993444

He's quite the good anon when he doesn't say anything.

>> No.1993522

>>1993510
tsun tsun

>> No.1993523

>>1993503
More like L'Arc ON Ciel.

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>> No.1993529

>>1993496
Hi, Haruhi1994.

>> No.1993531

>>1993432
Yeah, it's spelled 'Elesia'
My bad,
>>1993434
I... wait, what?

>> No.1993539

>>1993504
>>1993490
...Well, that's the last time I ask about that.

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FLOOD DETECTED, CURRY DISCARDED

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>>1993044

Ciel's way of showing her affection is sometimes lost on the receiving party when they have no stomach for it...

>> No.1993573

>>1993531

You know, like teenage girls who declare themselves eclectic wiccans to piss off their parents and force themselves to replace all instances of "oh God" with "ye gods" as if anyone gives a shit.

God dammit Melanie, you faggot attention whore. Everybody hates you and it's because of shit like that. Take off those glasses, they don't even have any prescription in them. You're only supposed to wear those geek chic things in pornos anyway.

Why you gotta be such a bitch?

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>> No.1993588

>>1993490
>>1993504
Wait a minute. Posts related. Dammit, all this time I thought it was just Shiki eating curry using sexual innuendo rather than being literal.

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*yawn*

>> No.1993610

Anime characters are not typical and do not lead typical lives.

>> No.1993616

Typical deleted file.

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I would like to take a moment to thank Curry Butt for expanding my Ciel collection, and to diss Melanie for being a cunt.

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>>1993588
nah brah, nah. Who wants to just eat normal plain old curry, Ciel's special 'brand' is the best. ಠ3ಠ

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>>1993617
:3c

FUCKING FLOOD DETECTED ALWAYS

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>>1993573
Fareweel, you dungeons dark and strong,
Fareweel, fareweel to thee
Macpherson's rant will ne'er be lang
On yonder gallers tree

Sae rantingly, sae wantonly
Sae dauntingly gaed he
He played a tune and he danced it aroon'
Alow the gallows tree

It 'twas by a woman's treacherous hand
I am condemned to dee
That I was condemned tae dee
Aboon a ledge at a windae she stood

>> No.1993634

I must say, currently playing through Ciel's route for the first time, she's far more exciting in other people routes. Kinda nice, but I wouldn't actually tap it.

[spoilers]I think I fucked up somewhere, as Shiki just killed her as she killed him. brb, reloadan.[/spoilers]

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>> No.1993642

I must say, currently playing through Ciel's route for the first time, she's far more exciting in other people routes. Kinda nice, but I wouldn't actually tap it.

I think I fucked up somewhere, as Shiki just killed her as she killed him. brb, reloadan.

>> No.1993653

I wish I knew what curry was.

>> No.1993651

>>1993642

Don't think I didn't see you fuck up your spoiler tags.

I'm onto you.

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>> No.1993660

>>1993642
Hint: Don't rape the maid.

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jajaja

>> No.1993663

>>1993642
Did you rape Kohaku? I think you raped Kohaku.

That, or she just didn't love you enough. Dick.

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>> No.1993675

>>1993636
fuck FUCK FUCK SHIT

>> No.1993681

>>1993653
a spice

>> No.1993694

>>1993681

You're a spice.

>> No.1993708

>>1993694
no me

>> No.1993711

>>1993672
I keep seeing this little girl; she's in Melty Blood, too, but I have no idea who the fuck it is.

Is she from Kagetsu Tohya? If so, just say yes; please don't spoil anything for me...

>> No.1993719

>>1993708

SPICY WOLVES?

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Ciel's butt is a nice butt.

>> No.1993737

>>1993711
she isn't in melty blood though. ಠ_ಠ

>> No.1993750

>>1993731


Her ass is plush

>> No.1993751

>>1993737
nevermind, I think I know what you're talking about ;_;

Also she's Nanako, and its not really 'spoilers' but she's the spirit of the seventh holy scripture.

>> No.1993755

>>1993737
Not as a character, but she floats behind Ciel during her pre-match statement.

>>1993731
...That does it, I'm downloading Take Moon.

>> No.1993765

>>1993751
Thought it might be something like that. Thanks.

>> No.1993770

>>1993711
yeah, Kagetsu Tohya.

>> No.1993790

>>1993663
Yes. I knew it would end like that.

Sometimes, I prefer the bad ends. There's one in Akiha's route where you kill Ciel, and Shiki becomes what he wants most, an insane killer.
It's a valid choice for him.

This is the first VN I've played, and I'm really impressed. Occasionally, it reads like Sartre with sex scenes.

>> No.1993807

>>1993790
>kill Ciel
;_;
That does it, I'm never doing any of the other routes.

>> No.1993884

>>1993807
You sure? I understand not wanting to kill your waifu, but in the other routes she's not the Ciel you've come to love. The other routes are still worth going through.

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>>1993375
wait don't tell me you all dislike her because of her age, even thougbh her body hasnt aged???

because along this logic len/ren would be the most hated character EVER because shes like 400 years old with the body of a 14 year old.

Not to mentino 800 yr old Arc but i dont really like her anyway...

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>181 posts and 81 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.
Am I late to the party?

>> No.1994577

>>1994351
Very. We've already gone over the reasons why some people hate Ciel, and why we love her. And we're not talking about Meltan anyway.

>> No.1994589

Ciel is REALLY bad at lying. A lot of people seem to misunderstand her because of this.

If she didn't have her hypnotic-whatnot she'd never be able to get by.

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The reason Ciel is my favorite female character in Tsukihime is that she reminds me of Anderson.

>> No.1994620

So why does Ciel wear glasses? She obviously doesn't have bad eyesight, she throws her keys perfectly well without them.

>> No.1994624

>>1993731

There's not enough Tsukihime yuri.

>> No.1994631

>>1994620
A disguise?

...which is stupid, but hey, it worked for Clark Kent.

>> No.1994634

She's just a shitty character(no pun intended) who has a very unlikable personality. Not only she can't make up her mind through the entire game, she's overall really annoying. The only good thing about her is her battle mode version.

>> No.1994644

>>1994631
>>1994620
>ciel
>stupid
WELL I NEVER

>> No.1994651

Why give a shit about other people's personal preferences? Unless they're based on misconceptions, arguing is pretty fucking stupid.

>> No.1994653

>>1994631

From who, Roa? I'm sure he would recognize a former host no matter what she looked like. At least she could've gotten a better haircut instead.

>> No.1994690

>>1994651
we are trying very hard to forget about our lives.

>> No.1994708

>>1994690
>lives
oh u

>> No.1994763

Not sure if this was answered, but the glasses are Mystic Eye Killer. Nobody said Ciel used mystic eyes, just hypnosis of some sort.

>> No.1994821

>>1994763
I always saw her power as being a rip-off of a Jedi mind trick.

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