/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How comprehensive is the average Japlander's knowledge of American History?

Because from what I saw during high school, the average American learns all they know about Japan from World War II movies and video games.

Pic related, as the original 13 colonies really would have been better off leaving the Louisiana territories to the French.

[Anonymous No.]

A California is fine too.

[Anonymous No.]

>Pic related, as the original 13 colonies really would have been better off leaving the Louisiana territories to the French.
If it wasn't for for the Louisiana purchase you'd be typing in German right now.

[LOVE !KOREAEpEzg No.]

>>1990119
this

[Anonymous No.]

>the average American learns all they know about Japan from World War II movies and video games.

Don't forget Hentai and anime. When you were raised your entire life on games and movies that come from the same country, you begin to get curous about that country of awesomeness...until you find out how xenophobic and nationalistic the people of that country truly are, then you just want to stay as far away as possible. It's still nice to play the games though.

[Anonymous No.]

It goes like this:
In the 19th century Commodore Perry came and ruined the country

then
In the 20th century General MacArthur came and ruined the country

[Anonymous No.]

In general, non-Americans don't give a shit about American history other than the "they're some British colonies founded on slave trade and massacres of redskins" level.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know, bro. Do you think there are statistics to something as specific as "average Japanese person's knowledge of American History"? Even so, you'd probably be better off doing your own research.
Going further off-topic, I don't think average Americans have "good" knowledge of their country's history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990185

I don't think average Americans have "good" knowledge of any damn thing. Almost half the damn country doesn't even believe in evolution.

[LOVE !KOREAEpEzg No.]

>>1990200
and almost half of europe still defecates on their living room floor

[Anonymous No.]

The average American's knowledge of Japanese history and culture is generally limited to "samarais and ninjers".

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990200
I know someone that that doesn't believe in evolution.
He's a bro and all but sometimes he just makes himself look like the most ignorant fucktard I've ever seen.
He actually tried rationalizing why evolution couldn't have happened.

But then he also thinks bush did a good job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990200

Evolution's just a theory like gravity and communism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990349
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but that doesn't sound like any bro I've met.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>1990349
Sorry to break it to you bro, but that guy is a nobro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990381
Well USUALLY he doesn't open his mouth about these things and is a cool guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990377
>Evolution's just a theory like gravity
If items of mass had any impact of others, then mountains should have people orbiting them. Or the space shuttle in space should have the astronauts orbiting it. Of course, that's just the tip of the gravity myth. Think about it. Scientists want us to believe that the sun has a gravitation pull strong enough to keep a planet like neptune or pluto in orbit, but then it's not strong enough to keep the moon in orbit? Why is that? What I believe is going on here is this: These objects in space have yet to receive mans touch, and thus have no sin to weigh them down. This isn't the case for earth, where we see the impact of transfered sin to material objects. The more sin, the heavier something is.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>1990396
0/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990349
I grew up in Wyoming, where the majority of people don't believe in evolution. If someone is actually a good person it doesn't really matter if they believe in evolution or not. It's just like people who believe in horoscopes or karma: if they're ok people to begin with I don't judge them for their stupid superstitions.

I would sage if I wasn't out of sp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990424
Easily influenced people will turn on you for the smallest thing if someone suggests you've done something immoral.

[Anonymous No.]

There really isn't that much to know about American history unless you want to go in depth. Most of it just politics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990452
We came. We saw. We conquered. And now we don't really know what to do with ourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990463
Pretty much. Also WWII.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990436
Not really. Only some of them are extreme christfags, the rest were just brought up being told that evolution doesn't exist. They aren't easily influenced, most humans will believe something when they've been brainwashed since birth to believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990478
It takes a certain level of intellectual sloth to fail to educate oneself. Weakness is weakness, and shouldn't be excused by circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

Thinking evolution isn't real is just as silly as having 2D wife.

[Anonymous No.]

You know in Asian schools it's customary to learn about world history in high school

I had to memorize the names of Aztec emperors and Indian dynasties, I'm pretty sure Japan knows more about American history than vice versa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990507
In America we learned world history as well, but we left out Japan (and other Asian countries). It's just some fucking island on the other side of the ocean. Its history doesn't matter that much to us. Western history is more relevant, important, and useful.

[Anonymous No.]

As an American, I remember learning at least a little bit about Japanese history in high school. We only covered a little bit though, like the Tokugawa Shogunate, Perry's landing, and the Meiji Restoration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990507
In America we learned world history as well, but we left out Japan (and other Asian countries). It's just some fucking islands on the other side of the ocean. Its history doesn't matter that much to us. Western history is more relevant, important, and useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990487
Everyone has flaws, anonymous. If everyone was so overlycritical no one would ever get along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990505
this is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990534
>The idea that history is intertwined is too complex for me.

You're a bonafide American.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990505
Except we know that they aren't and never will be real.

They actually believe that two thousand ears ago that a sky magician shot shiny jesus beams out of his ass for seven days and nights and that is how the earth, all life and the rest of the universe was born.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990551
>Except we know that they aren't and never will be real.
speak for yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990550
Americans aren't any dumber than anyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990550
I'm well aware that history is intertwined. If you'd like to tell me why students should waste hours in class learning the history of a country that is in no way relevant their lives then you're welcome to tell me. We learned what was needed (regarding WWII and such). Nothing else would ever be useful whatsoever for the vast majority of students.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990534
World history is such a joke. They could've called it "European History", considering how E. Asia and Africa are basically ignored, except to mention they were colonized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990576
It's understandable, though. There's only so much that can be taught in a few classes in high school. It makes sense to put more emphasis on the things that are more important in regards to our own history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990567
This is sorta true.

Not to be insulting, but if you want to understand why the world is the way it is today, you need to know the history of Europe/Mediterranean and Asia Minor/Middle East from the Classical period to modern times

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990576
It's understandable, though. There's only so much that can be taught in a few classes in high school. It makes sense to put more emphasis on the things that are more important in regards to our own history. I think calling it World History is fine, since in my classes at least we did cover the history of other parts of the world (albeit not the same degree); thus European History would be a bit of a misnomer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990601
True, but I think that extends beyond your average high school education.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990601
True, but I think that's a bit much just for high school. For anyone that actually cares, college is available.

[Anonymous No.]

American History is the best history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990639
American history is short, violent, and not finished yet. I'm sure it will be fascinating when it's done though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990567
The concept of a curriculum on global history doesn't sound to bad, but there is a limit to what you can teach children at the basic level. It would probably be a good idea to teach history in such a way that you get taught that most of what we've come to accept as "our culture" came from other cultures, who again borrowed from other cultures. It would help people create their own frame of reference for understanding other cultures and nations. Cultures change, some of us ended up with fairly liberal schools of thought on how to run a government, Europe and a good number of its past colonies trace back democracy (with its its flaws and benefits) back to ancient Greek and Roman civilisation.

Some others weren't as lucky. Mathematics, Western writing, it all blossomed in the Middle East, and from their it was exported around the globe. Now the Middle East is stuck with religious extremists and absurdly strict regimes limiting free thought and hampering the development of a thriving culture of science and art. We had the same problem in Europe as well during the Dark Ages, only there it was called Christianity instead of Islam. Same thing basically.

tl;dr: Edumacate thyself and thy children, lest ye fall fowl of history's mistakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990639
All History sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990643
You seem to be suggesting that America will end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990639
Because it's short and is easily memorized just in time for the test, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990651
Mathematics, okay, but western writing? please elaborate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990655
America Invicta, or maybe it should be America Aeterna

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990601
I know a lot of friends who do Latin and Greek studies, and although I agree that for "the West" their cultures were very important, I always get the feeling that its importance is a bit overstated. That is, I miss the context of that era, it wasn't just Greece and Rome, Asia and (Northern) Africa played an important role as well right?

I agree about the Middle East though, it would help if more people knew about its relevance to our (Westerners, for lack of a better word) past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990676
We'd need a linguist to explain in detail, but writing as we know it (the Roman alphabet) was gradually adapted from other culture's writing. From Phoenician writing amongst others if I recall correctly. Some individual letters can be traced back pretty far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990698
Oh okay, you mean the syllabary. Yeah, okay, sure. I don't really know the history of that myself so you might be right.

[Anonymous No.]

America invented the catapult.

[Anonymous No.]

America invented paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990719
why are you here?

[Anonymous No.]

America invented Corea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990739
To educate you.

[Anonymous No.]

why all the hate for America? jealous because every American has more homes, more cars, eats more food and uses more electricity? and still manages to make more money than you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990806
Shut up, bro. Acting like that makes us look bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990821
while true, sometimes I wish we could have a president who would bring back the old ways. The Roman ways. Just invade places and tell them that their gods are simply aspects of our gods so we should get along fine and pump resources into improving their infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990850
Sometimes I wish we had a President who would focus on improving our own country instead of others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990860
George W Bush?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990850
You already tried that with Vietnam and Iraq, it doesn't really work out all that well. Criticise Obama all you want, from a foreign perspective he is a major step forward. Overpopulation, pollution, global warming, failing economic systems, there are a lot of problems that will take unprecedented cooperation between nations. No developed nation can afford to be the einzelgänger any longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990865

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990860
That's basically what you've got right now. Basic health insurance? Infrastructure? Sounds good to me. What exactly do you want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990884
Free dolls.

[King in Yellow No.]

>>1990884

Exceedingly bad timing.

We need to get our budget balanced rather than going 'lolprintmoremoney'.

[Anonymous No.]

DETO KURUSHU

[Anonymous No.]

>>1990897
Ah, well, that's a good point for 2012 then. Perhaps you can get Nader to promote the "one doll per American" standpoint.

>>1990915
Governments worldwide are trying to cope with this crisis. That means that some costly projects will have to be postponed, sure. It also means that now is exactly the time to make sure people losing their jobs at the very least are able to live in good health without being overburdened by medical bills. I don't quite follow your argument of equating providing social services with "printing free money".