DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2008

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread for people interested in anime, manga, visual novels, light novels and Japanese video games.
If you have not read or listened to Japanese for at least 2 hours yet today, please leave and don't come back until you have.

Read the guide before asking questions.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Old guide site below.
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>19838821

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I MISSED YOU GUYS

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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why is it always taking so long for you guys to make a new one? I'm new here but I think I'm gonna be making 'em the next time possible

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i was so scared that djt was gone for good this time

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man i wasnt ready for the new thread im still kinda busy here

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Matt gets 2000 dollars per 4x 10 minute videos a month

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>>19850100
Stick with things you mostly understand. Whether that's idol shows, 日本語の森 videos, ドラえもん, たけしの万物創世記, or whatever else.

I'm the fag who keeps recommending IGN JAPAN because this is the sort of shit that's gonna get you out of the Nukemarine-tier 悠久な新米 stage as quickly as possible. There's enough variety here that you should be able to find something reasonably entertaining that you can also mostly understand without too much help. Here, have some ゲームの神様に２０の質問

https://youtu.be/kaqPdynd3Tw

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i thought it was because of his nice discord that has lots of great fluent speakers like yoga pant

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I have 1700 kanji on anki, would it be useful to add more? I feel like those i haven't add aren't common enough to worth my time.

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>>19850100
I'm honestly not sure myself
I've rewatched some of the older animes I used to watch as a kid like Dragon Ball and stuff, but aside from that it's all idol shows and GCCX since that's why I learned Japanese, and I don't care about much else
Tried to get into some newer anime for variety but it just doesn't hold my interest

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i have a feeling that today is going to be a good day

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>>19850229
i mean its not hard to get out of this tier of scrubs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcM9kCZt9o8#t=4373

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>>19850245
It's not, but people like Nuke should have given up Japanese a long time ago and studied something that plays to the strength of the SRS thing (and their addiction to it). Not that I'd want to see Nukemarine be a lawyer or a doctor, but at least those are things you can become reasonably good at in 8+ years with extensive study and use of an SRS.

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>>19850214
arigato gozaimasu ganbatte desu ne

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>>19850262
nuke chan just needs 1 really good anime to light his fire

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hey guys i'm gonna read for another 2 hours today while not remembering anything, slowly working backwards through the sentence in an attempt to figure out what's being conveyed because the structure is not intuitive at all

then i'll come here and bitch about how stupid i am. see you then.

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>>19850262
it's the easiest excuse
>duh i didnt study 8 years, you have to count only the hours that i did put into my study like 50 hrs of books and 20 hrs of anime
but all that passive time is also an indicative of shitty study, of not being motivated, of starting something that comes fast to a halt
and on top of that he's still doing streams where he fucking edits N5 decks for an hour, who the fuck watches that?

I wonder what kind of advice he gives to his subscribers, how can he even give one not being fluent?

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>>19850310
sounds like you watch the n5 deck streams

anyway idk why he doesnt want to learn japanese but hes sure doing a great job at it and lets those same little scrubs that use his n5 decks stunt on him in video chat lmao

like im still just wowing that that exchange i linked actually exists like seriously what hte FUCk

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>>19850341
yeah i skimmed through his last videos and they are boring as fuck, dunno how anyone can sit through them and why
it's more like making of videos than anything educational

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>>19850375
when it comes to nuke chan its best to just look at it this way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw

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>>19850245
holy fuck this is cringe, I guess the fact that Yoga is on his high horse + totally abysmal level of Nuke's Japanese

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http://www.j-cat.org/

is it worth doing for someone who hasn't watched 100000 hours of anime yet?

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i dont know i mean can speak to you in japanese right now do you want me to

i havent immersed for this week so i wont sound as good as usual but sure

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1oaOyng8TRO

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>>19850423
Just self-evaluate and estimate where abouts you'd fall on the JCAT scale.

Most of /djt/ are probably right around 300 based on that.

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>>19850423
its prolly worth looking at just for a bit of a glimpse of reality

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ohnononono

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navy dave what a fuckin name you cant make this shit up

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I checked Matt's Patreon:
>in August: 2 videos on his channel + 4 for Patrons = total of 6 videos
>among Patreon videos 2 are for everbody, 1 is for $3 and the last for $5

it's funny because you can set your Patreon subs to get money only if you re;ease a video, but nah

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i wonder if calvin bought back his gpu and arcade stick yet

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hes already strayed the path bless his heart

gambare calvin

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>caring about pitch
You should only be learning japanese to be able to understand it, not speak it.

>>19850428
かわいい

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>>19850686
you gotta understand the way people enunciate if you wanna understand japanese tho??

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>>19850641
that's a good thing, at least they're real people

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post cute jap girls (there's one in town but I'm scared to talk to her and this is not America)

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>>19850703
You can understand something without being able to reproduce it, brainlet.

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>>19850706
dude my fuckking immersion plz cease and yamelu

>>19850712
where in my post did i say reproduce or produce stop projecting

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>>19850708
Just skim the idol threads.

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>>19850712
I can't see that for pitch accent.

If you can subvocalize correct intonation when you read but are mute or something, ok, but pretty much all people without physical voice related disabilities should be able to reproduce something that sounds like proper pitch if they know what it is.

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>>19850723
You were replying to my post about not speaking in nihongo and your post ended in "tho" so I assumed you were disagreeing with me, maybe learn English first buddy

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https://youtu.be/xcM9kCZt9o8?t=1h28m42s

it's so funny how he doesn't even listen to Nuke

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>>19850735
I can understand English accents just fine but I in no way can speak in an English accent, for example. I can understand the sounds they make but I can't reproduce them

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>>19850747
it was so painful to watch i think i paused and unpaused at least a dozen times

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>>19850749
you heard him guys

let him have it

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>>19850728
no they have to be real

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>>19850760
there are 3D idol threads you dolt

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>>19850760
What did he mean by this

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>>19850747
lmao ive never heard you speak japanese i just took matts word for it holy shit

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>the nigger wants my pure idols now
I hope he jumped on the AKB wagon

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>>19850760
*teaches you japanese*

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>>19850774

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>>19850770
no hes gonna black every single one of your favorite all singing all dancing crap of the world jpoop idols with the ever popular mating press and youll have to watch it all

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>>19850786
don't post koreans here

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>>19850764
idols are ﾌｪｲｸ

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[Anonymous No.]

>はい。俺はいつも寂しいだだろう。

Is my translation good?

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>>19850911
>>はい。俺はいつも寂しいだろう。
forgot not to use だ after い adjective

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>A:どうして行かないの？  B:だって、忙しいもの
can i interpret B as "i'm doing something that is busy"? that makes more sense to me than the translation DoJG has given even if they mean the same thing. because when i see もの i translate it as "kind/sort of thing" in my head. but i don't see why もの even needs to be here.

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>>19850941
I'm going thru this deck too and that's also one of the grammar points that are kinda ambigious to me. I feel like I get it but not entirely.

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>>19850941
>>19850959
just get used to the fact that もの is it's own thing, it's going to come up in lots of other grammar points like ものか and ものの

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>>19850941
>だって、いそがしいんだなぁ。。。
>だって、いそがしいんだよ。。。
>ですから、いそがしいでござる


Take your pick, you wouldn't even notice もの in a spoken sentence because you'd be too busy going "oh, that's why"

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stop bullying nuke he even came here he's gonna make it

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>>19850272
You already know Japanese, what are you doing here?

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>>19850498
is that real?

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だめだ. あたしの没入...もう壊れた. さよなら.

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>>19850911
i wouldnt recruit you for my scanlation squad

>>19851024
nukes fine its the shit he does thats not

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>>19851067
of course, just check his last video's chat

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>>19851085
how would you translate that?

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>>19850941
>can i interpret B as "i'm doing something that is busy"?
no

stop reading about japanese and go read some actual japanese. you are just fucking yourself up with these grammar explanations that you don't and can't understand because you haven't had enough input.

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>究極の強さとは ただ己 一人あること

Does this mean "the ultimate strength lies in myself" or "the ultimate strength lies in being alone" or something else?

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>>19851135
No, it means 究極の強さとは ただ己 一人あること

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>>19850911
heres my best work i hope you like it

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>>19850941
also, the explanation for もの in dojg is shit judging from your screenshot

throw the grammar books away and find some compelling content
https://youtu.be/G5IPArDxO40

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>>19851146
nice one reddit

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>>19850911
ああ。
俺はずっと一人でいるかもしれない。

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>>19851135
dang makin me whip out a classic

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>>19851204
maybe いつも instead of ずっと whatever you shouldnt translate english into japanese in the first place that's for japanese people to do

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>>19851153
i'm already "reading" native content but i have to turn to grammar books because i don't understand anything i'm "reading".

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tell me about your first reads /djt/

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>>19851267
Replace that book with this one.

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>>19851296
replace that book with this one

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>>19850800
i want this but in japanese

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>>19850239
>I feel like those i haven't add aren't common enough to worth my time.
Then you are not reading enough chuunige.

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>>19851346
i guarantee you the text is infinitely better in english there just with the whole presentation

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I'm reading this today: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10011615361000/k10011615361000.html

Inside, it says this:

>ＮＨＫが７日の午後２時までに警察や町などに聞いて調べると、亡くなった人は１１人、心臓と呼吸が止まっている人は７人、どこにいるかわからない人は２２人でした。

I interpreted this as saying

>police and other townspeople searching told NHK that since 2PM on the 7th, they had found 11 people dead, 7 people whose pulse and breathing had stopped, and that 22 people's locations were unknown.

1) Is this correct? Did I miss anything (big or small)
2) Why did they separate these two ideas:

>亡くなった人は１１人

>心臓と呼吸が止まっている人は７人

同じの？ Aren't they the same thing?

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>>19850911
ああ

オレ、いつまでも独りだろう
>>19851357
shitty japanese is my fetish though

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>>19850800

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> あがる get nervous, get stage fright
core-fags, do I really need to know this word, is it so common it's in the 2k deck of most common vocab?

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>>19851370
it's not core is just bad

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>>19851370
ps it's one of 1000 senses of 上がる that you can only learn from exposure

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>>19851365
its not that the japanese is shitty canvas2 is really good but like how it runs out of the text box and the font that lil blurb just owns

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>>19851376
o yeah that's pretty aesthetic

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I'm having a very fun time learning Japanese. This is the most fun I've had in ages.

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>>19851367

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>>19850941
You should already have absorbed the feeling of this one through your animes in the form of tsundere imoutos who end their sentences with もん

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>>19851386
oh yeah? name one thing you've learned today

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but isnt she talking about her 忙しい もの? what gives???

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>>19851406
who the fuck wrote that im gona paddle their ass

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>>19851391
これがほしいけど特に日本語で
>>19851409
俺様

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>>19851401
That on 9/9/18, Anonymous got up at exactly 06:14. That's a unique fact I learned today.

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>>19851399
>who end their sentences with もん
I pity those who don't know Japanese, for they are unable to perceive such cuteness.

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>>19851258
>i don't understand anything i'm "reading".
that's how it is for everyone in the beginning. no matter how many grammar explanations you read, that will never change.

if you aren't reading a lot of japanese every day, you aren't going to get past that point any time soon. enjoy sucking forever and never learning the language, if you want.

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>>19851370
Drop that shit deck already.

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>>19850800
>>19851367
>>19851391
>え●ご

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わたしはゲイだもん

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>>19851361
What do you think defibrillators are for, if not to prevent people whose breathing/heart have stopped from dying? To make zappy sounds?

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幼女って失礼な。そう見えても、ガチったらやばいよ。ハダカなんか見たら絶対に幼女なんて思えないわ。

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behold the power of anime

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>>19851361
This will all start to make sense once you actually start understanding it rather than translating it.

That said, once you advance to TBS/real NHK news, a lot of this cumbersome-ass wording will go away. Honestly, dumbing down Japanese seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be a lot of times.

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>>19851453
子供向けだから当然よ

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>>19851365
No wonder you come here, then.

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>>19851459
そうよ怪しい日本語読んでみるとムラムラしてるわー

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>>19851441
I guess in my mind I assumed that if they found people whose heart and lungs had stopped, then they had probably found them long after the stopping occurred, in which case they'd just be dead. Guess I didn't think timing would have been such that they found them and it happened that they were in time to save them via the bleedy breath-y reset button.

>>19851453
Oh, so it's like that book that is written using only the 1,000 (or ten hundred) most common English words. It all makes sense, but some of the phrases are totally weird and unnatural because no one who spoke the language naturally would ever say them. Like, the book says that if you get subjected to too much radiation, then "food comes out your mouth and you die" which is a very over-simplified way of saying that you get really sick and vomit everywhere.

It seems like I'm still learning some vocab from the easy version, is it more a grammar thing that you need to surpass in order to read normal news?

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>>19851414
ストーカー
ストーカー

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>>19851458

Simple fact is that to learners who lack the base vocab and understanding of grammar structures, round-about explanations and "simple" wording can sometimes be more complicated than a concise headline like ７日午後警察など死亡１１人発見、２２人行方不明

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how long has minasan been learning japango and how much of this do you vakaru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljMfQ502GCM#t=126

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>>19851484
子供向けなんだから
子供は天才よ

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mettia wakaru

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mettjaですか

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zyoni zyoni iesu papa

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>>19851361
NHKが警察や町（機関）に聞いて調べた。NHKが聞いて調べた。誰に聞いて調べたのか？警察や町に。

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>>19851418
but i just told you i am reading every day. a minimum of 2 hours actually. 30-60 minutes of grammar study and a couple hours of listening too. but i've only been doing it for a week so maybe one day something will make any sort of sense.

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how long have you wanted to learn japanese really bad but never learned it yet and how much of this do you understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCqRYPX-qKw#t=99

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>>19851478
ストーカーっていうな

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watasi wa anon to mousu mono desuga

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ボンドと申します。よろしくおねがいします

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ボンダーと申します 金を貸して下さい

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>>19851501

At any rate, the nice part is that once your knowledge is up to a certain point (probably 3000-5000 words worth of vocab, knowledge of basic grammar) you can start having things explained to you in Japanese. That's one of the neat things about 日本語の森, by the time you will find those videos truly useful you will also possess the knowledge to learn the new words/concepts/grammar IN Japanese which is much more efficient than dealing with any amount of English.

Much harder to explain "new" concepts to an adult who already knows them though. A little kid doesn't yet know that a Volcano is a mountain that shoots out fire and lava, or that an eruption is WHEN the volcano shoots out fire and lava, or that lava is just rocks that got so hot they melted, or that melting is what ice does when it gets hot.

This is also why I think it's easier to learn new/foreign things in a new language, because you're assigning an entirely new concept to an entirely new word. This is especially evident with food, we don't really argue with what a food is called no matter what language it's in, it is just whatever it is. Same applies to peoples' names really, or the names of cars, or nonsense words/etc in stories and games.

Basically, someone needs to figure out a way to make people temporarily forget their native language so actual meaning/language acquisition can be done properly. Then again, listening to people like Matt and Nukemarine lowers one's IQ enough that you may forget English entirely...

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>>19851525
>i've only been doing it for a week
Your expectations are way out of wack

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>>19851601
Yeah I'm not reading this post, 7 decides what I read next.

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you dont need to forget your native language you need to just start feeling things in japanese

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>>19851608
but i know it's going to take a long time.

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>>19851614
鹿男あをによし

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>>19851525
そんな読めば起こることは２つ
その一：単語は文法を記憶に「かかる」（覚えるとか勉強になる）
その二：日本語の絶対・事実の元の元に「気づく」こと（手に入れるって言える）
一なら一日にもっともっとすればより速くなる
二なら時こそ邪魔になる。一時間、二時間、三時間、なんでもする何も変化ないわ。読むだけで身につく。我慢しなさい。
日本語は難しいからスイマセン（てへ顔）

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>>19851499
幼い頃から、ずっとアニメ語が知りたかった。それは何も分からなかった。

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>>19850774
so you're telling me all i need to do is become pera pera in nihongo and i can have a cute nip trophy wife like that?

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>>19851626
i can't understand the vast majority of this even with a hover dictionary. maybe after 2 months i'll come back to this post and understand what you were saying.

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>>19851677
いや私は下手よ

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でね

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君も

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爆笑

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苦笑

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媚笑

[Anonymous No.]

how do you say cringe in japanese

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せせら笑う

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>>19851743
辟易

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my typical fallback for the djt cringes is あっちゃ

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笑うな

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わたしは笑えない

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for example

>>19851406
あっちゃぁー

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俺だって笑えられない

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>>19851792
does the って mean "は" , aka something like "as for me" in this example?

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>>19851805
djtから日本語を教わるはダメ
絶対ダメ

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>>19851805
dont worry that one wasnt for you

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へｌｐ．い。かんｔ．つｒん。おっｆ．てぇ。じゃぱねせ。けｙぼあｒｄ

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その格好に合うと思います

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そうみたいね

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>>19851803
アイ
　ワン
　　ダ
　　　ジャパニーズ
　　　　プッセー

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I have not found a single YouTuber who doesn't fuck up reading basic kanji. Japanese people need to Anki more.

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>>19851919
this is why matt's reading of muramasa was so impressive. he made mistakes but you'd be surprised how many natives make far more.

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>>19851919
people just don't read books anymore

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>>19851925
it wouldve been sort of impressive if it was spontaneous and not fake rehearsed garbage

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How is 『プログラムから開く』read？Its hiraku right?

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>Let's relax and read some japanese
>I'm sure some alcohol would he-

Why do I keep falling for the same trap over and over?

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who cares have a 4charidiom 酔生夢死

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there will be no 起死回生 for djt

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I really enjoyed reading nukige with alcohol some months ago.

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am I being retarded suspecting that the difficult sound words with multiple しょ　じょ　づゃ etc. are of Chinese origin and without them Japanese would've been way easier with consonant+vowel combos everywhere?
basically you get these simply sounding words that characterise Japanese in comparison to Chink or Korean, but there are also those rough Chink/Korean sounding ones that are also most difficult to learn

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>>19852039
>Mama i learned a new word and posted it to DJT!

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Reading カタハネ becomes hard all of a sudden.
Princess A SHIT. Angelina A SHIT. I like how they made two different yet similar characters to serve in the different parts of the story, but because of that, there is twice the shit. Both are selfish, arrogant persons. And just when they seem to have a spark of reason and notice giant flaws in their behaviour, there comes fucking Efa and enables them by telling "oh you did not do anything wrong at all". Seriously, what the hell is this.

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>Learn japanese
>Learn how horrible "official" translations actually are.

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>>19852064
imagine being this jealous

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I want no part in this trash thread.

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>>19852125
ならなぜここにいる

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>>19852125
you're part of it now good job

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>>19852125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaS3UaCNiFE#t=43

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>>19852039
who cares? it would be better if this place would just die for good already

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>>19852136
blame the op

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>learn Japanese in 2-3 years to decent level
>go to university in your late 20s to get a degree in Japanese because it'll be easy as fuck and nobody will know even 1000 kanji throughout it and people will just be starting to learn Japanese with Genki-tier shit
how is this idea bad for a loser?

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>>19852136
If you don't like the thread, why not refrain from posting in or browsing the thread? Seems deeply selfish for wanting a general removed for everyone just because you have no self control. You aren't the centre of the universe.

>>19852146
For providing excellent resources for learners to learn Japanese? Just how narcissistic are you?

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>>19852156
its good to let reality slap you in the face in your 20s

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>>19852156
why would you take a course for stuff you already know?

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>>19852156
why do you want a degree in the first place? you still have to do all the stupid classes that have nothing to do with japanese or japan since you're getting an "education" not to mention it's expensive as heck and takes around 4 years

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>>19852161
so he can have a degree probably

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>>19852159
no for making the threads mostly

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>>19852168
eagerly awaiting his senior thesis dissertation 爆笑

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>>19852166
>not to mention it's expensive as heck
not everyone lives in burgerland

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>>19852166
education here is free, yeah it'd be basically for a degree like >>19852168 said but I guess I forgot the part where you have to sustain your life with money there... I guess I'll just win the translating contest on MAL in a few years

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>>19852188
i mean there's nothing really else to do in this life besides learn japanese so i say go for it. especially since it's free. i wish i could do that

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>>19852108
Nice post. If you knew japanese you would know that the word itself is really easy to guess and not at all worth being jealous about

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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m59o28q0Nyc

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852205
so why are you so jealous and red in the face about it with literal steam shooting out of your ears like looney tunes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852205
No one who knows Japanese would need to guess a common word like that, nor would they be posting in this shithole

[Anonymous No.]

did you know you only have to know the common words to be fluent in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852236
All 30 thousand of them

[Anonymous No.]

honestly if you know like 20k dictionary words passively and can use 10k words to the point of no errors i would consider you to know japanese just poorly

[Anonymous No.]

>If you have not read or listened to Japanese for at least 2 hours yet today, please leave and don't come back until you have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852208
its more like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRgHPhCbo0c#t=28

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852212
Alright sure I'm jealous you learned a new word anon congrats!

[Anonymous No.]

>only 30k
just give up if your not even going try to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

imagine thinking jamal wouldn't have a yugioh deck* of epic four character idiomatic compounds

*not to be confused with flash card decks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852260
imagine being ~this~ jealous

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852265
the sick part is its just actually my yugioh cards lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852276
shit man dont just come out and say it lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852265
Is this a 5 character compound?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852279
no that's EXODIA, THE FORBIDDEN ONE

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852279
the most epic gattai of all time

by the way i know gattai too if you wanna be jealous of it this guy >>19852260

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852287
crossfit actually explains a lot as far as the nuke chan dilemma

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852289
Fuck I've been reading it goutai all this time

[Anonymous No.]

you can call yourself fluent in Japanese if you've finished the Suggested Guide for Japanese Literacy (SGJL), otherwise you're illiterate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852279
Nice English deck you've got there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852101
Unofficial ones are shit too.

Official ones tend to be better in terms of actually translating correctly, but they go way overboard with localization when it comes to anything specific to Japanese culture and society. Unofficial translations often expect the reader to actually know a bit about Japan, or to be prepared to use Google if they don't, which I think is the better approach, but I can understand why the publishers behind official translations don't want to do things this way (they worry they'll scare away potential customers if they use terms that said potential customers might not understand).

[Anonymous No.]

>start making Memrise courses DESPITE there being Anki and acknowleding its presence you do it otherwise and just drop the project because it was retarded to begin with

>>19852299
that wouldn't explain why he's so fat though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852311
Where do I find the nukemarine story

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852324
no that exactly explains it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852327
here >>19850262

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852322
the thing that i truly miss about fan translations besides obviously the really good japanese is the passion they have for the thing theyre translating that they try to explain all sorts of things to you with notes all throughout that you might otherwise miss being a out of the loop piece of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852311
>he actually took the "stop doing SJGL stuff" advice seriously
Good job, Nuke. Remember to read VNs for 2+ hours a day.

[Anonymous No.]

OHNONONONO

[Anonymous No.]

i just thought of an epic way to revitalize nuke marines nihongo eceleb career

i can read a eroge to him and explain things to him like hes a child especially during sex scenes while constantly poking at him and encouraging him to read and explain things

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852363
i would watch this stream where's the patreon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852289
I read Dragon Ball of course I know gattai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852335
Thats pretty bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852380
no thats fusion god what a disaster your post is dont ever talk about someone not knowing japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852364
problem is i imagine 10 mins into it ill start getting bored and just post in djt during the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852327
>Where do I find the nukemarine story
https://www.mylife.com/charles-applin/charlesapplin
https://jp.linkedin.com/in/charlestapplin

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852387
gattai appears multiple times long before fusion does don't ever reply to me again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852398
holy shit yung nuke was a fuckin stud

but you shouldnt do that

>>19852399
post your fave dbz gattai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852408
do what, he has his name in his koohi account >>19852359

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the verdict on monolingual vs bilingual sentence mining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852417
that shits still not kosher dude i would delet imo

>>19852421
both are for retards so if youre retarded have at em

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852421
why would you do bilingual sentence mining, are you going to translate the sentence yourself despite your bad japanese

ps sentence mining isn't actually useful and any time you spend worrying about how to do it or whether to do it is better spent reading instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852421
mono is good bilingual is retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852428
By billingual I mean the sentence on the front and the reading and translation of the new word on the back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852159
This thread is shit at everything it claims to help people do. In any given thread there might be five posts helping someone learn Japanese, five posts with good advice, and 990 inane shitposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852437
if you're not gonna define the word you mined the sentence for what's the point

and if you're thinking of putting a japanese definition on the back: if you can read japanese definitions of any arbitrary word reliably you don't need to be mining anything at all

[Anonymous No.]

done

[Anonymous No.]

jamal when are you gonna make your own version of boirodaisku with your epic writing style

[Anonymous No.]

多々 looks really off

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

oh yeah i was supposed to learn html and make a website

i mean im still learning html and am still gonna make a website just be patient

[Anonymous No.]

use markdown and you won't have to learn html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852421
depends. sometimes it's more expedient to just put volcano on the back of a card instead of 地下のマグマおよびそれに由来する岩石・ガスなどが地表に噴出する地点，およびその結果として生ずる特徴ある構造。噴出物の高まり（火山体），爆発・陥没による凹地，割れ目などの地形をつくる。
if you understand all the words then go ahead then though that's the thing. look up matt vs japans video on monolingual transition it gives a pretty good algorithm for going monolingual

[Anonymous No.]

https://commonmark.org/help/

[Anonymous No.]

try it yourself https://spec.commonmark.org/dingus/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852474
"or else you'll end up like me?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852498
it's best left to the reader's imagination

[Anonymous No.]

yoshi time for reading

[Anonymous No.]

>what was the stroke order for 水 again?

[Anonymous No.]

>that's right, the water droplet hits the water then splashes to the sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852548
>>19852560
I read an interview with James Heisig where he mentioned learning to speak Japanese by playing with children, somewhere up in the mountains. How could you even make this stuff up? So when I heard the man was in Tokyo, I knew I had to ask him about it.

Because here’s the extent of what I learned from children by teaching grade school in Japan for several years: The word for lunch. How to say “I’m so cold.” How to say “I’m so hot.” How to grab your teacher’s penis and exclaim “bigu sticku.” How to insert your fingers up his butt in a move known as the kancho. Beyond that, children typically ramble about some toy or cartoon or playground game. They’re not going to coach you on how to make hotel reservations or order up another plate of gyoza. The idea that one could learn to speak from them is insane. They can’t even use the language decently themselves. That’s because they’re freaking kids.

I met Heisig at a writer’s workshop. He seemed a pleasant enough fellow, and a fine teller of grandiose stories. After listening to his well-polished tale about singlehandedly inventing a way of learning Japanese characters that millions of Japanese folks had never thought of in their thousands of years of history, I finally got a chance to ask him, “How did you learn to speak it?”

“I played baseball with the kids,” was his reply. “Up in the mountains. In Nagano.

“You played baseball?” I asked. “With children?

“Yep.

“And that’s how you learned to speak Japanese?

“Sure. Children are the best teachers.”

Now, that sounds reasonable. Everybody nodded. But it isn’t reasonable. It sounds good, but it’s actually nuts. Children are the worst teachers. They make no damn sense.

You know, over the years, I’ve asked many people how they learned Japanese, and their answers consistently fall into one of two categories. They either describe a systematic method pursued diligently over the course of several years, or they make up some convenient bullshit because they don’t really want to respond to the question. I looked at Heisig, and had my answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852533
yoshi time for anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852578
wtf i hate rtk now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852443
note he said it was a "transition"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852618
he actually didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852101
One of the reasons why I switched to using moonsubs or yomu.tv or 文字起こし or anicobin posts to watch anime whenever possible. I wish I could understand audio but nah, lacking the required brain cells and still missing some vocab.

>>19852096
Incidentally, are you reading the original or An call Belle?

[Anonymous No.]

am I the only one who hates physical Japanese books, with those flimsy covers and thin paper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852704
Yeah you sound like a real fucking virgin. Japanese books are beautiful

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852725
>>19852704
the removable covers are annoying as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852704
A lot of them are so small that I can't read them comfortably. It's handy that you can just keep a light novel in your pocket and whip it out whenever, but still.

>>19852732
Remove them?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you read 他クラース？ is it たくらーす or ほかくらーす?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852801
たくらす

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852696
>moonsubs
where can you get those?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852834
I was reading it as ほかくらーす until now, is the onyomi used on every words including katakana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852859
暮らすじゃないよ

クラス

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852859
他人 他国 他クラス etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852887
Yeah i just noticed it was クラス

[Anonymous No.]

however if you see 他のクラス its the way u were saying it

now its time for ur homework: figure out why

[Anonymous No.]

How many bytes of text should you read a day?

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically how many sentences should you read a day from the beginning?

[Anonymous No.]

I say you should read about one light novel volume a day. If you can't commit that much time, you will never learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852931
最低限50KiB

[Anonymous No.]

新しい本を買った！嬉しいな

[Anonymous No.]

曖愛

[Anonymous No.]

>>19851524
ごめん、わからない。’＿’；
何を話しますか？

[Anonymous No.]

*頭を抱える*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852842
https://djtguide.neocities.org/resource%20guide.html#Anime%20TV

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852963
すごーい

よんでみたいよんでみたーい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852963
>it's all weebshit

[Anonymous No.]

is it even worth mining words from manga? it seems like so much fucking effort to manually write that shit down...

[Anonymous No.]

its not worth it to do anything but post in djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853048
kanjitomo and yomichan with ankiconnect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853048
no so you should jump straight to LNs, VNs, or online articles.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally did it, i finished my 14th light novel, and this time it only took me 30 hours, I ended it in a week and only had to do 1 to 2 check up a page.
I feel like i know a shit lot of vocabulary, but still not enough i keep saying to myself "dammit, i should have known that one" when checking some.
I am talking here even though i have classes in 5 hours and didn't sleep at all, but at least i finished this book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852476
Being reminded of this piece of shit makes me irrationally angry. Ignoring single linebreaks is the epitome of freetard design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853123
I was talking about markdown but I got too enraged and cited the wrong post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852973
>police and other townspeople searching told NHK
This is incorrect. Marked by が, NHK is the subject. The doer of the action, 聞いて調べる. NHK asked the police and the town (not townspeople.) に in the sentence basically indicates the target of action, i.e. who was asked.

>>19853048
It's some minimal typing practice if you're already at the computer want to be good at that.

[Anonymous No.]

Are nukige good for japanese practice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853112
ganbare anon

[Anonymous No.]

>少年マンガ読むなんて（笑）

[Anonymous No.]

Today I finished the first 2k words in core6k! Only 4k more until I can start reading. I'm so happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852963
>少年マンガ読むなんて（笑）

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853247
>waiting to finished deck to start reading.

Why do so many people keep doing that mistake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853261
Anon pls. That post was to obvious for it not to be a troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853261
they get disillusioned when regulars in this thread irresponsibly advise them to ditch anki for reading when they're only a week into studying and know no words. beginners follow this advice, and then frustrated with their inability to retain anything purely through reading, they go to the other extreme and solely use anki.

the healthy balance is to use anki and to read at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

the healthy balance is to watch 10000 hours of anime and then read

[Anonymous No.]

I'm creating a program
"shitposting deck"
you basically have a deck of cards with shit posts some of them include
"what's tae kim's end game?|
"minna genki"
"manga is not reading"
What other cards can I add?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853307
watashi wa gei

also your entire post

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853261
Maybe your english would be better if you had finished a deck like that for english vocabulary/grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853307
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852963
>>19853112
Glad to see someone actually learning Japanese in this thread. I've been thinking about starting myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853247
Congrats. So you can understand all of this just by listening?

https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/patreon-posts/0QnTaP9uosrfE9uSciQwzUlUmRBfW-C6ScQGcQuRLMwO6V6ROuu3YWlukIDDZ7hF.mp3

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853112
Can I find what you've posted here https://djt.netlify.com/ ?

[Anonymous No.]

Who drinks coffee out of a clear glass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853307
thx for reminding me i havent been asking if minnas genki much lately

minna genki? lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853439
No problem, my program will be able to actually remind you of such things. It will also tell you what cards have not been used recently.
I could also maybe add a little graph to show you which shitpost gets you the most replies and evaluate tier efficiency that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853436
What the fuck are you even doing anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853455
This looks to me like N1 type question.

[Anonymous No.]

what does the nari after hito mean?

[Anonymous No.]

there's never any time to study

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852941
Set aside a set amount of time per day to read (perhaps 1/3rd of your immersion time). The number of Japanese sentences you read in that time is the right amount per day.

Early on, I recommend your reading to be the Japanese subtitles of shows. Concentrate on text and pay attention to how everything is pronounced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853436
How do you say "brown people" in Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853588
茶色人

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853445
replies isnt what indicates whether my post is a success

[Anonymous No.]

I've been using the Core 2k/6k deck, and I have some doubts.

Why is 少ない written with the extra ない? Is it not read as "sukunai" already? I've been getting confused a lot with this, how do you actually read the Kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853607
You could also take the length of text of replies into consideration. And yeah, replies is the only sole thing that defines the quality of a post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853445
to be honest i know that my posts combined had the best reply rate, but i toned it down out of boredom and care for djt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853646
im just happy if someone finds my post useful

[Anonymous No.]

I love you guys more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853646
i dont operate under the same parameters as the scrub uppercasers

[Anonymous No.]

How can we give uppercasers a better rep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853560
Be or become

[Anonymous No.]

ohayos tomodati

hayaoki dekitanode kahanshin wo sewa ni suru kana

dou omou

[Anonymous No.]

doumo omwaneeyo baka

[Anonymous No.]

attya~

sore o yomu tumori wa nai wa

tugini nani o yomu ka 69san ga kimeru

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853629
I wish I could help you but droning premised decks has already rotted your brain beyond repair.

[Anonymous No.]

eeeeeh ittemo eenyade〜

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853707
FF gai kara siturei simasu

sore wa bannable offense desu

[Anonymous No.]

betuniiijan

[Anonymous No.]

i wish i could read japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853736
me too so i mined the words on the main title screen of a VN for "load" or "continue" or "system settings'

[Anonymous No.]

you should send your findings to the guy making the nihongo learning game i heard hes stuck on his menus still

[Anonymous No.]

akiramezuniwaoakanaideyo niityan

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853743
japanese-learning-game-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853681

isn't that narimasu and naru?

[Anonymous No.]

natteorimasu

[Anonymous No.]

narusegawa naru

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853760
Sorry, I don't really know, I said it using the translation and a bit of speculation
pic related is what yomichan says, don't know if it helps

[Anonymous No.]

「夜のように黒い茶」っぽい思いがしたいがなかなか難しい。以上のように言葉にされても無理だろう。全然自然ない。全く無い。どうしようこんな思考を言葉にすればいい？

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853794
It's the (archaic) 也.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853712
Eh, I mean, I've been into it for a few days at most, I would appreciate any recommendation or tip

[Anonymous No.]

some dude caught another dude and the dude clung tightly as an earthquake began then it subsided wow VNs are really good

[Anonymous No.]

How do you keep motivated to study?

My level is alright, approaching N2. I'm just at a point where I'm freshly graduated from University and looking for a job, and I'm torn between working on projects and doing research to expand my skill-set for jobs in my field (Cartography/GIS), and studying Japanese. I suppose I could just do both though. I'm just exhausted and so my kanji study has suffered.

Anyways, any good book recommendations? Manga is fine too, but I need more practice reading more than just manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854062
10,000 hours of naruto

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854066
I don't come to djt often but when I do I see the recommendation of watching Naruto pretty often, is it just a meme? If not, then why not something else long running like One Piece or Gintama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853629
Check kanji pronunciation on sites like jisho.org
The kanji has kunyomi pronunciation of [すく]ない and [すこ]し, and onyomi pronunciation of ショウ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852963
どこで買った？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852963
that you japancode? my fellow ajatter!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854078
one piece is cool too gintama is ng for baby

[Anonymous No.]

i hope there arent actual ajatters in this thread that woudl be the worst

[Anonymous No.]

Naruto from the cornucopia is fucking shit as far as quality of the scan goes. I can't see furigana for shot and my sight is 20/20.

[Anonymous No.]

don't worry i'm an MIAer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854140
rest assured they all use caps so you can safely ignore them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854144
calvin...

[Anonymous No.]

calvin get the fuck outta here and watch naurto before you buy back your gpu and arcade stick again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854143
a subtle trick to make you not look at the furigana

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854078
It's a shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853679
dont cry shitpost all the time just because youre a gay baby

[Anonymous No.]

is there a word for kanji not matching the furigana but giving a hint as to what is meant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854062
you're at the point where "studying" Japanese means enjoying native content that you would have anyway. Why do you need motivation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853679
doesn't matter, they'll always have a higher rep than lowercase posters, comparatively.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah a higher rep for

being bad at nihongo
being retarded
being esl

anyone else wanna add

[Anonymous No.]

friendly reminder to stay hydrated

[Anonymous No.]

being hella ゲイ lol

[Anonymous No.]

hella ゲイ ftw

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854182
ateji/gikun

idk if there's anything more specific

[Anonymous No.]

so basically you actually like jamal if you're still here

[Anonymous No.]

if by jamal you mean procrastinating then yes

[Anonymous No.]

only the people talented enough to see the veiled truth in jamal's shitty lowercase poetry were good enough to learn japanese and come back to laugh at the uppercasers who can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854182
i think you just call it 別のふりがな lol

[Anonymous No.]

DJT I'm in Japan. What do you guys want from Lawson's?

[Anonymous No.]

the cashier girl

[Anonymous No.]

mousugu ohirussne

minna nani tabemasu?

[Anonymous No.]

piyokoman!

[Anonymous No.]

hamburgers and hot dogs

[Anonymous No.]

i've started standing with my feet straight instead of pointing out and my knee pain is going away

[Anonymous No.]

一度、「変則のルビ」があったが、よく意味わからなかった。言葉に合わないふりがなとの関係があるかわからないけどこれで伝える《かく》。
とりあえず厨二病的な商品とか厨二ルビ《わくわくよみもの》を。

[Anonymous No.]

i think learning japanese turned me transgender

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854398
あたしも
どきどきですわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854398
shave your legs get your seifuku on get that toast in your mouth and run along to your new trans life

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854415
こんなネプの絵があるけど探したくない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854243
i think that's not what i meant, i'm talking about what seems to be "they said x but they meant y" like writing a name with the furigana あなた or a location with the furigana ここ or hundreds of "helpful" combinations of words from my hentais
>>19854275
it's unfortunate if there isn't a term for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854439
well there is its called furigana but i guess in this case instead of reading between the lines you gotta read above them ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

われわれは

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854458
don't you mean to the right of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854439
用語があるよ
それが、ここには誰でも知らない
日本語把握できない人ばっかりだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854470
this isnt okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854122
BOOKSKinokuniyaでかった。メンバーなんだから、週末の特別メンバーセールはすげー

>>19854129
no I'm not fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

mama mia

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854497
is it fucked up i read this post in yoga pants voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854511
it's fucked up that you already have an internalized yogapants voice

[Anonymous No.]

lobotomy shika nee

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854526
its mostly just a manifestation of ptsd from watching him and nuke chan sissy fight in nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854534
HOW WILL HEISIG-fags EVER RECOVER???

[Anonymous No.]

err excuse me ニッポンゴ

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I tried learning Japanese in my sleep by listening to audio that would say a Japanese word and then the English meaning, but while I was sleeping my brain must have thought it was English word first, then the Japanese one. Now I "know" hundreds of words and phrases, but they are all wrong. I think I permanently crippled myself.

[Anonymous No.]

what if you woke up one morning and everyone spoke japanese except you and they could understand you when you talk in english but they never can understand you when you try to talk in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

one way you can permanently cripple yourself when it comes to studying is to use rtk. Another, and equally damage method, is to take a wrench and smash your own skull in.

[Anonymous No.]

daily reminder to all my friends do not self harm please you can get help were all waiting for you to make the call

dont become another statistic

[Anonymous No.]

ah yes, the wrench, a popular method

[Anonymous No.]

its called a spanner you fuckin yankee wanker

[Anonymous No.]

sorry mate, i didn't want to give the nhs any bright ideas so i had to change things around.

[Anonymous No.]

日本語でＯＫ

[Anonymous No.]

日本語でのＫ

[Anonymous No.]

日本語では わたしはゲイ みたいな意味ですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19854645
スペースが何で

[Anonymous No.]

tadaima bros

[Anonymous No.]

おにいちゃんたいへん

またおおあめ

[Anonymous No.]

あめで

まえがみえなかった

あしくびまでみずきてた

[Anonymous No.]

hareteiru kedo

[Anonymous No.]

koko ni mo

[Anonymous No.]

>バケツをひっくりかえしたようなあめ

へんなにほんごだけど

よくつかうよ
https://www.excite.co.jp/News/weather/20180910/Tenkijp_2035.html

[Anonymous No.]

eeh ronriteki ni hen zya nai to omou

[Anonymous No.]

>ききとうない
Jisho says it might be the negative form, but I've never seen this conjugation and I can't work out what it is.
Anyone know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855109
Enough!

っていってるんだよ

かんさいのほうのほうげん

[Anonymous No.]

>meet girl yesterday
>she's learning japanese too
>finally, a qt i can relate to in real life :)
>says she went to japan for a month
>able to have basic convos with natives
>i start falling in love
>ask her about her method for studying kanji
>"kanji? i don't even know katakana, its so harddd :("
>:(

does no one take it seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855178
>does no one take it seriously?
>method for studying kanji
sounds to me like she managed to figure out youre a retard and pulled the fuck out

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855109
it means 聞きたくない

changing く to う is a thing people did back in olden times and it went along with the -a sound right before it turning into an -o sound if there was one

you see the remnants of this in modern words like ようこそ (from よくこそいらっしゃいました), 全うする (from まったくする), おめでとう (おめでたく) and ありがとう (ありがたく) and also it's still used in regional dialects which is what that dude in your comic book is appropriating

bonus fact: words ending in しく got morphed to しゅう, like よろしゅう

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855207
i gave up rtk at like 700 and just have fun now. adding more cards would probably just ruin it for me.

[Anonymous No.]

明日(あす)がどんな日になるか
誰だって解らないけれど
それはどんな日にも出来る事
明日(あす)は追いかけてくモノじゃなく
今へと変えてくモノ
それが自分になる
私がM@STERPIECE

a stanza from an IM@S song
how would you explain it in english?
what is the どんな日にも出来る事 ?
what does he mean by 今へと変えてくモノ ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855317
Imagine being so bad at japanese that you struggle to understand a song lazily put together by sleep deprived old men in an office room

[Anonymous No.]

take that back

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being so good at japanese you dont waste your nouryoku on helping noobs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852578
Is this the /tv/ Harry Potter pasta of /djt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855178
>method for studying kanji
have you tried reading more
>i don't even know katakana
she can't read and she probably knows more japanese than you, the real question is do you even take it seriously

[Anonymous No.]

erm kurosupostaa detete

[Anonymous No.]

>dead for 30 minutes
HEH HEH ITSU DEMO II YO ITSU DEMO II YO NAN DEMO II YO HEE HEE

[Anonymous No.]

When did DJT become almost entirely about a group of dumb YouTube celebrities?

[Anonymous No.]

Nuke laying down the hard truth
https://youtu.be/xcM9kCZt9o8?t=1h22m26s

[Anonymous No.]

What's this thing people put on the end of their notes called?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855474
That would appear to be yet another sperm that failed to become a zygote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855469
Why did you post this here

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855460
>When did a discipline become about looking at the successes and failures of other people?
That's kind of how it goes unless you always want to start everything from zero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855483
You don't walk into a university and spend the entire day talking about some clown with a camera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855489
Because the people you talk about didn't have cameras and the subject area didn't warrant the use of cameras.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855492
What relation does dumbass with a YouTube channel have with learning Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855495
>What relation does someone who claims to know Japanese have with learning Japanese?
Fuck if I know, what does some dumbass with a youtube channel and a few dozen videos on the theory of space-time have to do with physics?

[Anonymous No.]

What does your discussion have to do with learning knee home go

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852344
The fan translator of High Score Girl is pretty good at doing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852696
>An call Belle?
This. Have no idea what the difference between them is, though.

[Anonymous No.]

yosh time for listening

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855598
Jesus did he age 20 years in the last week?

[Anonymous No.]

>文字お越しをして
What the heck is this saying? Passing the time writing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853203
Yes and no.

They're good in that the language in them is usually not too difficult and by nature the vocabulary is very repetitive, so even beginners can pick them up and try their hand at them. They also give you a strong 'incentive' to actually want to read them.

The bad part is that once you've 'used' said nukige you don't really want to read any more of it that day, so you really need to have something else on the go besides it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855598
Mattato be looking like Steve Jobs
I'm guessing all that AJATTing really took at toll on his body

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855317
>どんな日にも出来る事 ?
->どんな日にも出来る[という]事[だ]
という意味だと思う。
That means that you can make tomorrow any kind of day.

>（明日は）今へと変えてくモノ
ちょっと難しいけれど、「変える」は能動的active な意味の動詞だから、自分はこういうふうに解釈interpret した。
(Though 'tomorrow' will become 'today' while you do nothing,) you also have the option of changing 'tomorrow' to 'today' which is desirable for you with your own will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855630
>文字お越し
https://jisho.org/search/起こす

this? 文字に起こす -> 文字起こし(noun)
>7. to transcribe; to write down (what is spoken)​

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855654
>Using that kanji and using the stem
I'm mad but thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853811
小説などの中でならそれでいいんじゃない？
「闇夜dark night の墨ink を流し込んだpour ような茶」
…はちょっと表現がくどすぎるtoo rhetorical かな。

日常会話でだったら、単純に「真っ黒な茶」って言えばいいと思う。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855483
why start from zero when you can start from negative one and go backwards from there

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855689
だいとうりょうのはらのようにくろい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19853112
How is the series?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855871
Pretty good. I read it because i like the school/mind battle setting and the mc.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone play any of those two nukig?

https://vndb.org/v21429#main
https://vndb.org/v20429

I'm struggling with the little japanese i know to understand the link there is beetween the two of them.
One seems like a sequel of the other can anyone confirm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855317
my take on second one
>you should not (passively) running after the tomorrow
>but (actively) turn it into present

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855178
no one takes it seriously because they don't think of it as Japanese they think of it as the "anime language", just look at how anytime japan or Japanese is randomly brought up online its almost immediately followed by some kind of "lol anime", or "best anime", kind of comment comment

[Anonymous No.]

If children are the best teachers, why do adults teach them and not the other way around? Should I hang out at playgrounds? Seems like it's the best way to learn new skills, apparently...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856258
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.]

you just want to fuck children

[Anonymous No.]

chotto nankas aside, is yogapants actually good at Japanese?

it's hard for me to judge his level and pronunciation

[Anonymous No.]

technically
how would a chink learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856293
Maybe they could teach me a thing or two about sex.

[Anonymous No.]

stop namedropping

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856315
They're just as likely to teach you what jail is like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856327
Heiseg is right... they really are the best teachers...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856334
anzen na tokoro kara mitteru tte watasi wakaru yo

[Anonymous No.]

You're gonna fucking pay for crippling my Japanese this hard, you mother fucker. It's gonna take me weeks in an Elementary school to fix this level of damage.

[Anonymous No.]

eh dousitankai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856398
what are somethings that can actually cripple your japanese aside from matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856424
Having your immersion broken pretty much ends your Japanese career.

[Anonymous No.]

Yoshi time to not read again.
妹に汚されたい

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like I'm close to hitting critical mass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856446
What happens after hitting critical mass? A trip to Gensokyo?

[Anonymous No.]

I've gotten to the point where I can read VNs, but their websites and plot synopses are still too hard sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856309
nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856482
sounds like youre reading too much of the same stuff try reading some stuff thats not anime related

[Anonymous No.]

They don't have to get rid of kanji, but why the fuck didn't they make the reading a function of the radicals and their position?
That would've made things a LOT more easy for both the nips and for me. I probably would've dropped anki long ago because pretty much the only thing I'm using it for is to fucking recognize the kanji in words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856501
>try reading some stuff thats not anime related
What if he's like me and only learning Japanese for anime and other otaku media?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856518
then mine more descriptions

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855438
受け spotted

>>19856428
immersion is everything

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a simple easily parseable list I can download of all the (or most) kanji with metadata such as radicals and their position in the kanji? It's particularly the metadata I'm interested in so the more the better but the actual associated kanji itself is still a requirement.
If there's nothing with the radical positions then that's fine too, but less ideal.

[Anonymous No.]

minna genki?

[Anonymous No.]

minna no nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

I've mined so many sentences there's no way I'll ever get through all of them if I put them into Anki

[Anonymous No.]

just let em go and if they come back to you it was meant to be

[Anonymous No.]

>google translate
２度と来るものかと誓って、俺は逃げるように自分の部屋へと帰っていった。
By swearing that I will come again twice, I went back to my room to escape.

Why doesn't it recognize that there is no negative used in this sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19855460
i made it that way by posting about matt a lot a couple months ago. that was during my RTK phase and i was being irresponsible.

[Anonymous No.]

my guess is prolly the #2 and then because google translate is fuckin aids!!

[Anonymous No.]

Having idols as a man is a sign of being pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856748
to show your repentance you must slice off your dick with a katana

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856756
Being on this board and in this thread is a sign of being pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

cant you all just be friends under the commonality that you dont know japanese ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856589
I think https://namakajiri.net/nikki/testing-the-power-of-phonetic-components-in-japanese-kanji/ gave some sources for the materials he used

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856784
this is why nobody likes you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856829
だってここは出来ない屋よ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856829
by that logic, nobody likes anybody on DJT

which i guess is true so good point

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856829
dont take things so seriously i was just playing on the whole thing of everyone in djt always telling each other they dont know japanese : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856589
KANJIDIC, maybe?

http://www.edrdg.org/kanjidic/kanjidic.html
http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/

[Anonymous No.]

i love you bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856784
sure jamal, you're my best friend here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856589
https://github.com/cjkvi/cjkvi-ids/blob/master/ids.txt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856841
why didnt you capitalize your s bro i almost didnt recognize you there : )

[Anonymous No.]

Why isn't 龶 classed as a radical?

[Anonymous No.]

beSt friend!

[Anonymous No.]

siluka

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856868
kangxiには存在ないんだから

[Anonymous No.]

Benis
yoshi, back to reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856881
But why doesn't it exist in kangxi?

Also, you'd think someone would've made an update to a fucking 300 year old dictionary by now. Why doesn't Japan just make it's own kangxi based on modern standard Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

even if its sorta broke if it aint fully broke they aint doin shit

[Anonymous No.]

nice deck you got there DJTards
how in the fuck someone thought this was proper way to do it, you could've at least spread the words across the deck Nuke

effect: this shit will go to suspended soon because I won't be able to keep up with these meanings and similar words, but I won't care, it's just a waste of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856900
Actually, turns out the radical system kangxi uses comes from a dictionary called Zihui which was compiled all the way back in 1615. How has this system stuck around without modification for so long?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856900
kangxiなんて古いよ
むんむんくさい
>>19856919
https://my.mixtape.moe/rwlraz.apkg
(いつでもかってにやめるけど)
>>19856924
うんうん

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856919
Most of those are just transitive/intransitive pairs and don't actually have different meanings beyond that difference.

But yeah, the '''''''optimized''''''' ordering in the Core deck is full retard. It's just a recipe for getting things mixed up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856919
why dont you just naturally learn all that during your watching of 10000 hours of anime with english subtitle

[Anonymous No.]

>Get anki card wrong
>Accidentally hit "Good"
10th time I've done it today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856919
i think nuke's logic was that grouping similar kanji after having finished something like RTK would make it easier to retain the words. but that's not the case at all. it causes you to mix up the words instead.

it actually boggles my mind he thought it was a good idea. sheer frequency, or at least placing a higher weight on frequency (and reducing or eliminating the weight of shared-kanji) would be better.

[Anonymous No.]

コアーは特に上手く作れなかったわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856944
CTRL+Z

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856951

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856934
holy fuck, any list where i can see them all divided? I can roughly tell which is which but there are also some that have same meaning and are transitive in both cases and whatnot

[Anonymous No.]

why would you use anything from the guy who literlaly got destroyed by a guy just saying itu demo ii yo over and over and having toilet hair

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856947
It boggles the mind that it's still carries the word "optimized" in its name despite everyone acknowledges that the order is anything but.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856919
so how you do guys learned these words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856972
>>19856941

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856972
10000 hours of naruto

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856972
like my native language, I used anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856972
i'm using vncore while reading leyline

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856976
>>19856978
>>19856981
I mean in the context of Anki, did you just suspend them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856991
in the context of anki you cant learn japanese lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856991
What's Anki?

[Anonymous No.]

Kudaru is the opposite of noboru.
Sageru is the opposite of ageru.
Oriru is similar to kudaru I think.
Orosu is rare. To take down (like a flag). To launch. to drop/to let a person off,....
Kudasaru is to give (honorific)

ok just need to learn this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856965
上げる・上がる
下げる・下がる
下ろす・下りる
下す・下る

[Anonymous No.]

whats a computer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857001
thank you

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfd1Sr5o5tY#t=15

[Anonymous No.]

someone repost this jap rapper cruising down a desert with his hoe

[Anonymous No.]

here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJvkUlpIVw

[Anonymous No.]

駄目だ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857047
oh so that's its kanji form 0_o

[Anonymous No.]

>>19850245

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857055
たとえ一生懸命に勉強しても駄目だなぁ。。。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt3DEC_dA6s#t=160

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856919
Oh no, a basic vocabulary deck shows basic vocabulary. How shitty is that?

[Anonymous No.]

but the order is all wrong and will permanently cripple your japanese >___<!!!

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys im using a premade deck because I have brain damage and the premade deck im using fucking sucks whats wrong with you retards fix this right now

[Anonymous No.]

syougakusei no sitagi kukun sitai naa

[Anonymous No.]

omawali sam kono hito des

[Anonymous No.]

*nigeru*

[Anonymous No.]

>core decks
OHNONONONO

[Anonymous No.]

thanks to core I now know that それ means lesbian

[Anonymous No.]

yoshi time for anime

[Anonymous No.]

how many hours of raw anime do i need to watch before im fluent

[Anonymous No.]

idk some large amount after 10000 hours of eng subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857364
1095 hours of raw anime in a year. several have done so which is why anon's 10k suggestion is odd to me. that's way more effort.

[Anonymous No.]

you hear that guys watching and enjoying anime is effort!!!! lmao

[Anonymous No.]

sometimes it is in 2018

[Anonymous No.]

just watch the 1 or 2 tolerable ones every season and spend the rest of your time watching the great classics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwEq7goU6a4

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasHusmLZuE#t=29 king miyachi ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857458
dont listen to this it will cripple your japanese

[Anonymous No.]

i dont think it will i think itll be a real eye opening experience

[Anonymous No.]

赤ちゃんってキスしたら産まれるんでしょ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857542
可愛い女の子同士なら、その通りよ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19850245
結局二人は何を討論してるの？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857577
あたし可愛い少女ですけど？ （心に）

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857610
わたしはさっぱりですぅぅ

[Anonymous No.]

みんな元気？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857658
もちろん元気！
もろちん元気（あ！やべっ）

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857397
*several people with low standards have claimed to do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857658
イエッス

でもはらへったっす

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857692
what makes you think their standards are lower than yours

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857700
Anyone who believes you can be fluent at Japanese in a year has much lower standards for fluency than me.

[Anonymous No.]

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857703
yea you probably use some weird standard that most others don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857707
How is it that Reddit out shitposts us every fucking time? I did NOT study Japan for 2 months (almost done with RTK) to get out fucking done by a bunch of redditors.

[Anonymous No.]

i can recognize about 100 words after reading tae kim and doing some words in core for a week but can't recall them. anyone jealous?

[Anonymous No.]

The right part of 祓 looks like a person shooting a longbow

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857722
let Heisig know, maybe it can cut down the kanji story by 100 words

[Anonymous No.]

haha yes im going to be fluent in a language that is nothing like mine that isnt even a part of my actual life in a year of doing flash cards and casually watching terrace house

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857709
I think the standard definition of fluency among normal people is actually closer to mine. It is only in obscure language learning communities where people who can barely function on the most primitive level of a language are considered "fluent"

[Anonymous No.]

any reasonable definition of fluency requires, at least indirectly, that you can think in the language without struggling for common concepts, phrases, structures, or vocabulary

[Anonymous No.]

now you listen here you little shit im going to be fluent in japanese after 1000 hours of mousing over kanji to see what they mean

[Anonymous No.]

一万時間ならできるわよあなたも

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857770
Add 500 hours of ankidroning and 500 hours of listening and you actually stand a chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857781
i have no idea what this dude said do i know japanese yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857791
１０まん　じかん　アニメを　みるが　わすれない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857752
you can talk about most of what you want after a year of ajatt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857861
while making a complete ass out of yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857872
yea of course you'll make lots of mistakes but you'll still be able to say most of what you want. it's far above merely being "functional".

[Anonymous No.]

数百時間を超えたら暗記するのは意味にならないから進めないようにしてなさい
そんなにしちゃったら暗記するのは止めなさい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857861
*英語で

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857902
you should only trust native-vetted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857902
nice you have the retort now you just need to make it actually say something

[Anonymous No.]

読書時間
１万時間を超えると
あなたも出来るようになるはずだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857924
英語だけで投稿する人は日本語で投稿しなきゃとオモいませんか？ぺらぺらにほしくなれば日本語を使わなければだめ。

[Anonymous No.]

長すぎ読んでない

[Anonymous No.]

無理やり日本語を使おうとすると害になるよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857992
無闇な英語で投稿してるのも悪いね。

[Anonymous No.]

man 1 year of ajatt and i'm gonna style on the japanese-posting assholes in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858069
Only 2 more months of RTK for me, it's gonna be so fucking sweet.

[Anonymous No.]

There seems to be a lot of strife about the correct way to learn Japanese but at least we can all agree that if you do not learn the very minimum of 2200 kanji your ability to learn Japanese will be permanently crippled, right?

[Anonymous No.]

nope just reading ability

[Anonymous No.]

it's much easier to learn kanji if you already speak japanese. That's going to be my method

[Anonymous No.]

yessssss

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858139
Kanji are useless if you don't know words they appear of. The opposite is also true for reading. Learn words and kanji they are written of.

2200 is sort of enough to read easier material.

[Anonymous No.]

よ・む [1] 【読む】
（１）書かれた文字を一字ずつ声に出して言う。文字に従ってとなえる。
（２）文字・文章などの表す意味を理解する。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858139
iie baka. watashi wa kanji wo shiranai demo nihongo ga shiteru.

[Anonymous No.]

i just shiteru my pantsu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857542
何を言ってるか分からん

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858139
>What is illiteracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19857425
That one was worth watching for the uniforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858271
shitteru

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9ufP3Kn4Uk

[Anonymous No.]

is it high IQ if you start noticing a word a lot while reading, so you search for it in a premade deck like core and reschedule it so you can start reviewing it immediately

[Anonymous No.]

doesnt appear so

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858463
using a premade deck automatically makes you low iq

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858463
this is good bait

you have high IQ

[Anonymous No.]

except high iqs dont bait

behold the dunning kruger effect at its finest

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858271
youre literally in the toilet though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858501
you're confusing them with their japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858501
a truly unfartunate turd of events

[Anonymous No.]

^ story of my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>19850214

[Anonymous No.]

>>19856919
Change the order of the deck if you don't like that order. The different index fields are there for that purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858475
>>19858476
>>19858481
that was mean as hell. what do i need to do to make my japanese study high IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858562
none of the possible orders make any sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858563
youre study becomes high iq when you realize its impossible to learn japanese but keep using it anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858573
your*

[Anonymous No.]

10000 hours of eng subbed anime or your gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858584
youre*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858584

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858499
not true though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858614

[Anonymous No.]

者型理

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858632

[Anonymous No.]

>>19850199
>tfw been learning hiragana non stop for 1 week and still can't memorise them
>tfw been over flash cards 100s of times

how do you guys do it? my memory is really shit ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858649

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858653
at this point desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858653
man if you can't even learn hiragana in a week "non stop" then you will never learn japanese

try writing them down from memory. imagine the sound for し and write it down

for the other way around try reading some kid stories or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858653
have you tried writing them down

[Anonymous No.]

If I know two parts of a three-kanji word, is there a sign I can put for the one I don't know when I search for it? Like if I search for d*g in Google gives me everything with those two letters and any letter in between, is there anything like that for japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858665
>>19858666

yes i always write down

hundred sand hundreds of times...

but i still don't remember them ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858655

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858677
and you are trying to recall and write them down from memory? or just copying

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858677

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858690

[Anonymous No.]

>私…ドキドキ、してきちゃうじゃない…
What does してきちゃう mean here? What verb is this even?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858668
https://jisho.org/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858680
くる->きて->きちゃう

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858690
>anime guide
>anime guide to literally anything

neck yourself weeb

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858744
>>19858729

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858653
Use this:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/kana/index.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858680
>>19858655
>>19858649
>>19858632
>>19858614
what is this pose called?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858747
thats mean dude anime owns

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858677
>hundred sand hundreds of times...
There's no sense in writing them more than 5 times in one go. Even 5 times may be too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858747

[Anonymous No.]

I just installed anki after mastering all hiragana and katana and I'm already feeling like a brainlet, can anyone give me some help?
I got the word 三, which is pronounced "san", and means 3. Everything good so far, then I got 三つ, which would obviously be San tsu right? But then it was みっつ, fucking Mittsu. Is there really no logic in this, and the same symbol can be wildly different if it's followed by a different kana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858680

[Anonymous No.]

こいよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858758

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858769
nigga wtf dude, some kanji have many meanings some have one, this is like the most basic thing there is. Also don't go doing that there core 4k or whatever, uselessly difficult, go do RTK first before anything else, only takes a few months and then you've got a lot of kanji which helps with words and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858774
No, it's clearly this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858775
I was just doing it as the DJT guide instructed, what's this RTK thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858769
there is some logic but lots of exceptions just keep at it and you'll figure it out

don't listen to this >>19858775 he's baiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858782
the guide a shit, do RTK, it teaches you 2200 basic kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858783
I'm not, doing a good number of kanji first is the correct way of learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

instead of doing flash cards who not just learn japanese? unless your goal is to be good at anki of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858769
Read Tae Kim.

>>19858785
The guide is shit and so is RTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858794
flash cards are the superior method of memorization, if there is something you need to remember there is no better way than spaced repetition

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858782
don't listen to anyone who tells you, a beginner, to do RTK. RTK is literally worse than immersing yourself in nonsense if you're a beginner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858797
>>19858785
The guide is good, it lays out options and says "pick what you think would suit you".
RTK is still shit though.

[Anonymous No.]

ya'll nigs dumb af if you don't have any building blocks then how tf you gonna build a fort?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858799
you don't learn japanese by remembering words. flash cards may be good at remembering your mum's phone number, but that's not how a language is formed in your brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858744
So,
>my heart was beating very fast just now
or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858797
But it said I should buidl up some vocab before doing Tae Kim

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858831
you should do some rtk before tae kim

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858834
Ok the joke stopped being funny already

[Anonymous No.]

Any other good youtube vids for learning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p9Il_j0zjc
This one plus the katakana series were honestly really fucking great, learnt everything in just a few days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858830
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojg/dojgpages/basic%E6%9D%A5%E3%82%8B%E3%83%BB%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8B(2).html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858831
Go RTK first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858843
>[video starts]
>want to speak REAL Japanese from your first lesson?
hehehheh, dropped 4 seconds in

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858841
I'm not joking though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858831
don't listen to anyone who tells you to do rtk

[Anonymous No.]

If you seriously expects anyone in this thread to tell you how to study Japanese, you deserve all the awful advices you get.

[Anonymous No.]

I just do the opposite of whatever people in this thread tell me to do. So now I just shitpost on /djt/ while using my hover dictionary to read the shitty japanese posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858846
alright so きちゃう is 来ちゃう, I got that much from your previous post. I still don't get what して is doing here or the sentence's meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

ジェームズ・ハイジックを進める人に絶対に耳を貸すな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858843
Hiragana should take 15 min to learn, not 1 whole hour. Fucking noobs these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858876
>進める

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858876
>進める
see, if you had done rtk this wouldn't have happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858882
あら
ヘイジックの謀議を進める
てへ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858807
by learning hiragana, katakana, basic vocabulary, basic kanji, basic grammar...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858889
ハイジック
くそっ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858668
Go to Jisho.org and use ? for the single kanji you don't know. Use * for multiple characters.

超* gives all words starting in 超
*間 gives all words ending in 間
*赤* gives all words containing 赤
事?所 or even ??所 if you were trying to remember 事務所

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858859
Well, do you know any japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858898
no but im good at RTK

[Anonymous No.]

変換ミスなんて気にならないわ

[Anonymous No.]

fuck灰十区
渡しはmatt覚まのcock抱けが代隙ですよー

[Anonymous No.]

shinda hou ga susumeru

[Anonymous No.]

勧めないから進める

[Anonymous No.]

good job guys keep permanently crippling your japanese

[Anonymous No.]

おまいわだまってろ！！！！

[Anonymous No.]

if you don't do your anki CORE 10K you will never learn japanese, just a reminder

[Anonymous No.]

総ては儚い

[Anonymous No.]

if you dont know japanese before attempting to learn japanese youre going to permanently cripple

[Anonymous No.]

half of you don't even speak english how will you learn another language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858806
>it lays out options and says "pick what you think would suit you".
This would be fine it there were no bad options laid out in the guide, but unfortunately that is not the case.

Much of the guide was penned by (most likely well-meaning) beginners just pulling stuff out of their asses based on what seemed sensible to them at the time. Why do you think there is such a mess of different options listed there? It's because there were a bunch of beginners all using different methods who thought that their method was best one and that they needed to tell everyone else about it so that they'd use it too.

It doesn't seem to happen so much these days, but if you look at how the threads used to go a while back it's obvious. We would just have thread after thread of beginners arguing over which resource and which method was the best one and telling everyone else their their methods and resources were shit. These people were freely able to edit the guide to reflect their opinions and they did.

[Anonymous No.]

儚い（履かない（履いていない））

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

>割れ鍋に綴じ蓋

これはなに？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858950
and now we have https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.html#8%20How%20to%20learn%20Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858952
うわ！！とってもおもしろいありますね！！あなたてんさい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858875
して is する's て-form
ドキドキ is a するverb
ドキドキする->ドキドキして

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858950
(cont.)
And the worst part is that new beginners now come to these threads, read the guide and assume everything there was written by someone who knew what they were talking about, blissfully unaware of the fact that they are reading advice from someone who was at the exact same level as them.

>>19858958
>This guide is for confused beginners, not new learners.
Then it isn't a solution to the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858956
誰でも恋愛相手がある、仕方のない奴らにも
>>19858965
あたい自然な天才ですわ（自然天災ですわ）

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858977
that line appears to have been an excuse to make people stop shitting on it for not being the older guide they already had

[Anonymous No.]

>十字路
heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858979
あった？

ないない

そもそもどうねんだいがほとんどいない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858992
幽霊かもしれない（幽霊化もし恋愛（あきれた。キモい））

[Anonymous No.]

permanently

[Anonymous No.]

いや履いてないんだし

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858992
誰だって幼女じゃん

[Anonymous No.]

I set too many new cards in Custom Study in Anki. I went thru half of them, some of them still to be reviewed but I also get the new cards along. Is there way to get only the 'to review'/brown colored cards in Custom deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859063
you can set it to show new cards after reviews under settings i think

[Anonymous No.]

So is the consensus still to make cards when you encounter news things or just I just not bother and keep reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>帽子を持ち上げる

[Anonymous No.]

making cards and using it probably doesn't hurt if you keep reading. if it starts to take up time you would've spend reading and listening, it may not be worth it

[Anonymous No.]

if you can explain to me why youre doing idiot flashcards satisfactorily ill allow it otherwise fuck a card unless its yugioh

[Anonymous No.]

man i don't blame you dumb asses for preferring to read more than listen because listening is just so boring but because of the endurance and mental fortitude i cultivated doing RTK i've been listening 3 hours daily and my listening will be so much better than yours was in a year lol

[Anonymous No.]

なにこれ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859082
What I'm doing now is to make a list of all the i+1 sentences I could potentially make monolingual sentence cards out of. Once a week I go through the list, and make cards out of the sentences I still can't read succesfully. The ones that I managed to read the second time I keep in a second file and occasionally read through them to refresh, and make a card out of it if I fail one.

[Anonymous No.]

世の中にはやっちゃいけないことがある
Is this ちゃう from Things done unintentionally + いけない?

[Anonymous No.]

make a card out of this *farts in your face*

[Anonymous No.]

90% of nihongo is just apologizing for being alive and inconveniencing everyone by existing so i hope yall are drillin your keigos and sonkeigos and teineigos and kenjogos flashcards lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IYsI72ojRQ

[Anonymous No.]

djtは救われないから

[Anonymous No.]

my favorite contradiction about mattjatt is
>you should model your learning off of how children learn which krashen says is through comprehensible input
>oh by the way you should spend 3 months practicing writing from the start even though no child learns to write before they are fluent
what's yours

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859140
maybe for natives

I am a gaijin so they don't expect me to apologize for that kind of stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859147
but if you want to understand japanese you gotta know just how deeply sorry everyone is to be alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859098
I had a hard time concentrating on listening practice too.
But lately I've come to like watching 自然ドキュメンタリー on youtube.
The narrator usually speaks clearly and the video usually helps filling in the gaps much more compared to TV-shows with normal dialogue or news programs.

And even if your concentration wanes for a moment you still have pretty visuals to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859146
>you can learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

あのんはあぶらのたべすぎ

ぎとぎとなのはひかえて

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859147
don't you want to be mistaken for a native over the internet because your keigo is so on point

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859140
lmao thats homo shit im not a jap cuck i dont apologize for anything

[Anonymous No.]

holy crackers take a look at these

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859184
>>19859152

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859190

[Anonymous No.]

hey vncore guy, you can remove this disclaimer from your deck. i did RTK so i already knew they were different.

[Anonymous No.]

1 learn the kana
2 memorize, spelled in kanji, something like 500 to 1000 words from a FREQUENCY LIST ("optimized" core decks are not frequency ordered)
3 read a simple grammar guide (not a textbook, not pomax, not imabi)
4 read and listen to a lot of japanese (do this at the same time as points 2 and 3)

good reading/listening material for absolute beginners:

manga with furigana, not meant for young children
visual novels with a texthooker and a mouseover dictionary
DO NOT use parsers (word boundary/part of speech marking tools) or machine translation tools (ATLAS, google translate, etc). they're bad

music is very good for phonemic awareness. just don't expect to learn much vocabulary or grammar from it.
anime. yes. really.
youtube - there are lots of videos with hard captions because of how Japanese dialects work.
live streams, radio shows, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone screenshot the MIA discord's list of resources again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859221
or just bookmark this up-to-date resource they maintain
https://gist.github.com/askoufis/e67e637918e5b16d6f4a4da6b0bbe74d

[Anonymous No.]

>>19852287
>>19852299
He does crossfit? then why is he fat.

Does he fail at everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859243
>being this mean for no reason

[Anonymous No.]

its perfectly possible to watch this and not be mean or squirm in your chair >>19850245

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859233
this isn't everything they share

[Anonymous No.]

Is this how japs really talk?

[Anonymous No.]

what do you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859211
行shares left most radical with 待
+ the name of radical & explanation
I wish my deck had this desu.
I only mine along with 6k deck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859213
let me cut that down for you:

　read/listen

now you know nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859412
too little, people will wander astray

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859466
How about this

1. learn hiragana/katakana
2. learn what sentence structure, word types, particles, and verb agglutination look like
3. sign up for one of those fancy anime/manga/LN tracking sites
4. read 50 volumes of light novels and watch 50 days of anime that you are interested in
5. now you know enough Japanese to try for any specific goal you have.

どう感じ?

[Anonymous No.]

how about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859510
too specific in weird places

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859516
best guide so far

[Anonymous No.]

it's already been figured out

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859525
this doesn't even contain the word "read"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858984
>Start testing the grammar and vocabulary you've started learning by "reading" Japanese
So no listening?

>Eventually you'll start reading for more than ten minutes at a time
wat

The aim should be for hours from day one. You will never get anywhere reading only in 10 minute chunks.

>passive listening exposure
>English-subtitled anime
Then he says something about starting listening when "you're able to" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean). No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859533
Listening is very important, almost mandatory, but it's very slow to learn by listening alone. Reading will be your primary source of practice, for a lot of reasons. The most obvious is that reading works at your own pace, and listening doesn't, but spoken Japanese also has more ambiguity problems (including large numbers of homophones) that written Japanese does not have. These aren't problems for the intermediate learner, but spoken Japanese can brutalize an absolute beginner if their ears don't know what they're looking for.

This doesn't mean you should avoid listening comprehension. You want to be able to understand as much spoken as possible. If your reading comprehension skills get too far ahead of your listening comprehension skills, your learning will slow down, because the deepest instinctive language learning parts of your brain won't be operating efficiently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859533
nobody has ever "read" for hours on end the first day they started trying to read japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>構成
I just failed this card thinking it was "structure" FUCKING AGAIN
How many FUCKING times is this, I don't even know I stopped counting.
Goddamnit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859525
Matt admits now that this is bad advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859546
speak for yourself buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859571
give one (1) example
you can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859573
あたし

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859579
嘘つくな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859510
First I forgot to mention that the anime must be raw.
>>19859517
I am assuming you don't understand step 2. This is just the best amount to set you up for picking up grammar from reading and listening as you will be able to identify what each word is. A lot of grammar study is pretty useless as you can only truly understand grammar through a lot of exposure and no amount of brute force can overcome that.

word types: nouns, verbs, adj, etc.
particles: things like は、でも、から, etc.
agglutination: forms of verbs like いる->いれば

does it make more sense now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859589
no I understood every word it's just too unusually specific

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859583
i am stretching, i did a lot of stupid shit while i was memorizing words and taking bad advice
but the first day i decided "okay i'm going to try to read yotsuba from now on" i read for two hours and i continued to read for 1-2 hours a day after

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859592
out of all the people I've gotten to start learning japanese the only ones who could read for extended periods of time early on without wanting to kill themselves were the "false beginners" who took classes or did weird shit like passive listening or lyrical translations

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859591
Well you said that the guy who said read/listen was not specific enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859606
specificity is required but it needs to go in the right places

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859597
>the only ones who could read for extended periods of time early on without wanting to kill themselves were the "false beginners" who took classes or did weird shit like passive listening or lyrical translations
why is this?

[Anonymous No.]

how to learn japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFpjnQmjVHI

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859597
i had like 1k shitty words in anki, had finished skimming tae kim, i'd attempted to decipher isolated sentences elsewhere before, and i'd watched a lot of subbed anime. i figured the amount of hours i would suck was sort of fixed, so if i wanted to stop sucking sooner i had to read more than ten minutes at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859466
*read/listen to whatever you want

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859610
it takes time (like, the passing of days or maybe weeks) for your brain to stop seeing japanese as this weird thing that isn't a language
>>19859614
that sounds like the "Start testing the grammar and vocabulary you've started learning by "reading" Japanese" phase to me

[Anonymous No.]

i did RTK for 3 months but then dove straight into immersion, 2 hours reading, 3 hours listening. guess i just have a superior mindset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859620
i suppose so, i concede. but i think it's worth distinguishing that really basic shit from sitting down and trying to consume some real content, and if you've adequately done the former then you can jump in to spending hours on the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

that's cool rtk dude but what about the parts you're leaving out

[Anonymous No.]

rtk and passive immersion might not teach you japanese but itll sure teach you to be smug

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859647
which parts
>>19859654
>passive
lol, active buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

The only way to learn Japanese is to have a strong specific goal.

Mine: move to japan and become a 主人公 of a 異世界 loli harem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ZJdzMKb9c

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859664
あたいの目的：偽幼女になりたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859466
if they can't understand that they should give up, i cut out the bullshit from 100% of all guides

[Anonymous No.]

there should be no guide because if youre here reading a guide youre not gonna learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859680
But at what stage will my little sister let me fuck her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859686
あたしならもうやりたいわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859702
Ok, I will wake you up at night for some 人生相談

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859713
わあい！

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859662
lol that wasnt only directed at you buddy

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

me in the naka

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859756
in the naka of the one on the right ね

[Anonymous No.]

I finally found something that made my studies worth it, even if it's an easy couple of sentences

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859818
同人漫画大好き

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859818
何をした？

[Anonymous No.]

i want to learn japanese so if by a deus ex machina I swap places with a japanese girl I won't feel all lost and we can communicate via notes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859885
I'm a grammar-let and afraid of getting laughed at so here's the source

[Anonymous No.]

>>19858950
The guide is good and the best part is that opinionated autists like you can't ruin it with petty delusional ideological biases which only serve to confuse the beginner while propping up your ego.
Not everyone has to learn the exact way you would be if you didn't spend your time in these threads shitposting for hours a day. Fucking deal with it and get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

god i hope i can read this by 2019

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859546
speak for yourself buddy

>>19859573
我輩

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860004
shit might be so bad in 2019 that toradora will become actually attractive

[Anonymous No.]

どんびきされた

しっぱいした

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859966
もしかして永遠の初心者ですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859966
I wrote parts of the guide and they're terrible. You're the one with petty delusional ideological biases here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859966
you need to let go of your feel-good notion that there are "various methods that work for everyone", or that pretending this is the case is a good idea. don't mislead people. let them know what works (immersion) and what doesn't (RTK).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860118
good post

[Anonymous No.]

>>19859966

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860118
Have you ever heard of anyone who finished rtk and regretted it? Me neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860146
I have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860076
>>19860118
post your excuse for not vocarooing >>19860004

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860146
i finished it and i regret it. it's not really helping me in my immersion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860151
I'm the toradora poster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860151
no mic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860156
No shit, and you've never read a page because you can't lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860160
It's actually incredibly easy to read and that's why it's what I use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860151
I have a really high pitched, distinct voice and I could be tracked and slapped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860162
Let's hear: https://vocaroo.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860163
same. i talk like an anime girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860151
i just finished RTK so i'll give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860171
>>19850428

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860146
i dropped 75% through and regret not quitting sooner

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860171
No voice profile for you dude, sorry.

てのりたいがー
それってつまり
だれが
めのまえで　うつむいている　おにんぎょうさんのことなのか
てのりってのはまあいいとして
このこのどこがたいがー
などと
てのりたいがー　ですって
ゆうちょうにかんがえこんでいるばあいなどではなかったので
それはわずかにあごをあげ
そのふたつのがんきゅうが

いちびょうの　さんばいぐらい
むおんじょうたいだとおもったのは　しかしりゅうじのおもいちがいだったらしい
ばくだんみたいにさくれつしたしんくうのいっしゅんがとおりすぎて
ざわめきがみみにもどってくる
きがつけばしりもちをついている
りゅうじだけではない
ひかくてきちかくにいたすうにんのやつらもいっしょになって
へたりこんであわあわいっている
はってにげようとしているやつもいる
なにがおきたのか

[Anonymous No.]

PS: if you can look at that page and seriously think that someone who's been here for so long wouldn't be able to read it you don't know enough Japanese to say anything about the guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860236
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860236
if you're so paranoid then use a filter and drop that mad nihongo on us
i assume what you wrote is shit but i don't want to read it for fear of permanently damaging my japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860250
dude it's literally just the page he was directed to written in kana

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860250
I have an extremely identifiable voice, no level of filtering that would still retain my accent would hide it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860277
you gilbert gottfried or something jeez anon get a life put up or shut up

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 hes one of the djt ecelebs like yoga pant

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860292
Don't ever try to associate me with AJATT ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860004
>>19860217
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZQf3qGYliZ

Let me know how I can improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860296
ill say it like the other anon said it, put up or shut up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860304
that's impressive would you say you understand 90% of what you read like other ajatters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860310
あなたは日本語が把握できないから全然意味がない。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860304
100点

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860321
なんだ、口だけか

[Anonymous No.]

諦めた方がいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860360
いかにも

[Anonymous No.]

あきれた
まことにここでは誰も日本語わからない
jamalや19860118以外に

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860304
why'd you stop

[Anonymous No.]

真似だけだから

[Anonymous No.]

お前が言うな

[Anonymous No.]

そう
真似だけ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860322
closer to 100% than 90%. there's only one kanji I didn't know.
>>19860403
that's the first time I've ever read and it was mentally taxing.

[Anonymous No.]

Ⅹ　真似だけ
〇　ただの真似
〇　真似でしかない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19860424
考える絵文字
お前、まだまだだな