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1967121 No.1967121 [Reply] [Original]

The new sage pretty much forces you to bump any thread you participate in because you can only use it once. In other words, sage can't even be used correctly any more. If you have time in your busy NEET existence, please e-mail moot. This shit is really annoying.

Instructional /jp/ image macro marginally related

>> No.1967130

You spent all that time in Photoshop?

I can sage threads by putting polite+sage, but I'm using politest+age now because it's still recharging.

>> No.1967133

>>1967130
I didn't make it. It's been around for quite awhile.

>> No.1967135

>>1967130
The image has been around for awhile.

>> No.1967140

wait what? testing.

>> No.1967144

Oh wow. How long do I have to wait between sages?

>> No.1967147

see

>> No.1967149

>>1967130
I dont get it. What the fuck have you been smoking?

Also, its one minute between sages. Either come up with something worth while, or stop posting. Better yet, haul ass to /b/, your shitposting will go un-noticed there

>> No.1967166

>>1967149
What? I get "Flood detected" even after 1 hour when I try to sage.

>> No.1967159

lol internet

>> No.1967171

>>1967130
You do know what sage actually is, right? Putting "polite+sage" doesn't work the same way, you weird person you.

>> No.1967173

testing 1 2 3

>> No.1967175

>>1967149
>Also, its one minute between sages.

That's not true.

I'm >>1967140
and I still can't sage.

>> No.1967179

This could all be solved easier by deleting /b/

>> No.1967181

>>1967166
So it seems. Rather weird, since ive only stumbled across this problem on /jp/ now. Moot just doesnt know when to stop, does he?

>> No.1967184

10 minutes, and still can't sage.

>> No.1967186

Actually I like the new sage.

>> No.1967192

>>1967186
Everything that keeps you from posting is bad.

>> No.1967195

>>1967186
But what if I feel like bumping a thread just for my post is not worth it? This is awful... I usually sage threads for my own posts...

>> No.1967197

I already emailed moot. And we've already been over this.

>> No.1967213

Would it be difficult to manipulate things so that this new 'sage' (cancer) only works on boards that actually have a problem with shitty people who don't know how to use it? Like.. /a/. Leave us out of it.

>> No.1967214

I doubt e-mailing moot does jack or shit. He gets so much crappy mail that he probably doesn't even give a fuck if you write a polite well thought out e-mail.

>> No.1967215

"Hey, moot... I thought sage does nothing."

As usual, moot ends up looking like an idiot.

>> No.1967223

I'm glad that moot has done this. You idiots have been using sage wrongly for years now.

>> No.1967228

>>1967192
In many cases, complaining about post limits means you post too often, but 10 minutes is a little harsh. If it was something like 30 seconds, it'd be more reasonable, because you could say that it should take more than 30 seconds to post something worth reading, and you shouldn't post something that isn't worth reading.

>> No.1967244

>>1967223
Are you actually saying this on /jp/?

Of all the boards, /jp/ is the only one I know that actually uses sage properly.

>> No.1967248

>>1967244
I've seen people on /jp/ get offended when people sage their threads. There are idiots on every board.

>> No.1967252

>>1967248
Maybe because some of them are faggots from boards like /a/?

>> No.1967253

>>1967179
Sage was bigger problem in /a/.
Fuck, about all threads got ''sagebombed''.

>> No.1967262

>>1967252
Well, sure. That doesn't change the fact that they are on /jp/ and doing things wrongly.

>> No.1967264

>>1967253

Yeah, but sage does nothing.

>> No.1967268

>>1967262
It does, because it means that /jp/ has to suffer because a bunch of children can't shut the fuck up and lurk for a few months like everyone else has.

>> No.1967270

I don't give a shit about sage, but why Comic sans MS?

>> No.1967276

sage is a threat because it counts against the autosage threshold.

>> No.1967278

New sage?

>> No.1967284

>>1967276

>threat

Easy there, man. Cool your jets.

>counts against the autosage threshold

Yeah, tell that to moot. "lol sage does nothing"

>> No.1967281

sage for metathread... except i'm not going to waste time seeing if i have sagepoints

age for shitty thread

fuck moot, long live snacus-sama

>> No.1967290

>>1967276
>sage is a threat because it counts against the autosage threshold.
AND SO DO NON-SAGE POSTS.

Anyone who wants to make a thread reach the bump limit can still do so with regular posts.

>> No.1967293

>>1967264
threads are still pretty much ruined if theres just lots of posts saying ''Animu X is shit'' or some picture(no one will spam like that without sage).
Of course, using greasemonkey scripts is possible, but its pretty lame if you have to use firefox add-ons to enjoy browsing some board.
people on /jp/ seem to use sage pretty wisely, and thats one of the things why /jp/ is my favorite board :3

>> No.1967304

>>1967293
> threads are still pretty much ruined if theres just lots of posts saying ''Animu X is shit'' or some picture(no one will spam like that without sage).
I know I will.

>> No.1967302

>>1967293
*glomps you*

>> No.1967337

Didn't your mother tell you that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all?

>> No.1967356

>>1967337
No, she teached me to protect my rights/opinions/etc even if it means i have to be not-so-nice.

>> No.1967361

>>1967356

Your mother is sort of an asshole.

I'd take her out to seafood dinner, have her take care of the bill, and never call her back.

>> No.1967372

If only the kids at /a/ didn't find the sagebomb script...

>> No.1967380

>>1967337
Yeah, that's why I keep silent in real life and blot out the sun with my trolling on the Internet.

>> No.1967382

>>1967372

If only moot wasn't an idiot and hired moderators that aren't incompetent.

>> No.1967385

Last metathread discussing this was deleted. Mods/janitors have a point, we get nothing from complaining here about the new sage system. If you think there are modifications needed for these new measures, email directly to moot. He'll probably read it.

Wasting sage in a proper way.

>> No.1967390

>>1967385

I really wish you wouldn't be such a self-important faggot and just leave instead of "lol im leaving guys"

>> No.1967415

>>1967372

/r/ link to said script also sage

>> No.1967423

>>1967390
/jp/ != /a/
I've never left /jp/, I just go a lot as anonymous. Wanted to check if the tripcode is still persona non grata around here. Meh, could have gone worse.
My view remains the same though, we get nothing for doing these. Even if there's a marginal chance of emails changing something, it's far better that posting here and hoping that someone in charge will read it.

>> No.1968051

Sagetest.

>> No.1968199

Anybody figure out the timer on the sage yet?

>> No.1968206

test

>> No.1968207

sage

>> No.1968214

testing

>> No.1968220

actually you can delete your sage to sage again, this doesn't allow 'sage bombing', but it does allow you to reply to the added replies in the thread without ageing in yourself

sure you lose your original sage, but is it that big of a deal?

>> No.1968221

ffff

>> No.1968229

>>1968220

>sure you lose your original sage, but is it that big of a deal?

Yes

>> No.1968237

>>1968220
>actually you can delete your sage to sage again, this doesn't allow 'sage bombing', but it does allow you to reply to the added replies in the thread without ageing in yourself
You are a gigantic faggot, the kind moot doesn't want here

>> No.1968241

>>1968237
No, you are.
I don't see anything wrong with deleting your posts so you can post again.

>> No.1968245

>The new sage pretty much forces you to bump any thread you participate in

Well, I guess that's supposed to be the aim. If you're technically supposed to make non-trolling, on topic posts, then maybe the inability to sage is supposed to make people make better posts that they aren't ashamed of posting to bump the thread.

>> No.1968248
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1968248

>>1968220
Does it work to just delete the image of an imaged post?

>> No.1968249

To people who use sage because they feel that their posts are too insignificant to bump a thread: If you need to make multiple insignificant posts in a row, you're shitting up the board.

>> No.1968255
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1968255

>>1968249
>>1968245
That's pretty far removed from reality. In practice, it is common on /jp/ to use sage to discuss how bad a thread is. This board will die faster if it can't support the necessary level of hate.

>> No.1968256

>>1967121
>The new sage pretty much forces you to bump any thread you participate in

DON'T WANT TO BUMP
DON'T PARTICIPATE

>> No.1968258

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR POST IS NOT WORTHY THEN DON'T FUCKING POST

>> No.1968259

>>1968241
going out of your way to sage something repeatedly like a faggot is stupid. Theres a hide button function for a reason, newfriend.

Go away

>> No.1968260

I WANT TO POINT OUT HOW TERRIBLE A THREAD IS WITHOUT BUMPING IT

>> No.1968265

NOT WORTHWHILE ENOUGH TO BUMP THE THREAD
AND
NOT WORTHWHILE ENOUGH TO POST

ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS

>> No.1968273

>>1968260

REPEATEDLY

>> No.1968281

>>1968260
WELL IF YOU CAN'T EVEN POST NORMALLY IN A DECENT THREAD BETWEEN POINTING THAT OUT IN TWO OTHER THREADS THEN THE BOARD MUST HAVE SO MANY SHITTY THREADS THAT IT'S NOT WORTH BROWSING

>> No.1968294

You can use it once per minute, right? Or, actually three times every three minutes. Either way, if you are making more posts than that, stop posting so much.

>> No.1968299

The new sage does not affect me in any way, since I have never abused of it.
Ignore threads that are not of your interest, or report useless threads. You can start with this one.

>> No.1968310

Everybody shut the fuck up. I have a solution. It's called logic.

Dear Christopher,

Here's a simple way to fix sage so that people will start using it properly. Make a function on 4chan called "no bump." If the user presses the no-bump button the thread wont be bumped. Get rid of the email field and/or word filter sage to blank. That way people cant' use sage as an insult.

Sincerely Anonymous.

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1968314

>>1968299

WELL AREN'T YOU JUST SUPER SPECIAL

>> No.1968317

>>1968310
no thats stupid, they could spend the time coding something USEFUL

>> No.1968318

I don't think the new sage will be able to stop me from shit posting.

>> No.1968322

>>1968317
>4chan
>coding
( ・-・)

>> No.1968325

>>1968318

I know it's not stopping me

>> No.1968327

I am going to email moot supporting the new sage to counteract the emails the sagefags are going to send

>> No.1968329

>>1968318
I think reporting you saying that will get you banned though

>> No.1968333

Sage does absolutely nothing except not bump a thread. Everyone that is offended by its use needs to lurk moar.

>> No.1968336

>>1968327
Ask him if he could force people to enter subjects when they make a new thread.

>> No.1968339

>>1968259
Ignorance is acceptance. We don't accept shitty threads here.

>> No.1968340

>>1968329

You still believe in moderators?

Don't tell me you still believe in Santa Claus

>> No.1968341

This thread and all the shitty metathreads are proof that limiting the use of sage does absolutely nothing to prevent shitty posts.

>> No.1968347

>>1968336
That's stupid. Subject fields are wholly unnecessary.

>> No.1968356

>>1968341
even if you had sage the meta threads will get bumped anyways, sage never did anything, if you don't bump something somebody else will.

>> No.1968365

>>1968294
I don't know how often it is, but obviously five minutes isn't enough.

Error: Flood detected, post discarded related.

>> No.1968369

>>1968356
>sage never did anything,
True mental retardation at work. Go sage a thread from page 5 and see if it shows up on the front page. Hint: it won't.

>> No.1968373

>>1968369
why bother posting on a thread in page 5? nobody will answer

>> No.1968378

>>1968347
No, it'd be useful in many ways.

>> No.1968381

>>1968356

>sage never did anything

Hey, there... moot jr. A chip off the ol' block, eh?

>> No.1968382

>>1968369
I think he was referring to practical use. Though, in that context he just shows he's a newfag, because back when autosage was 100 posts, sagebombing a thread could kill it rather easily.

>> No.1968383

>>1968369
If a thread is on page 5 then nobody has posted in it for 3-5 hours, necroing should be a bannable offense

>> No.1968385

>>1968327
Nice thread bump moron. If you hate a thread about people complaning about the new sage function, then why did you bump it. Oh wait, could it be because you lack the ability to state your own opinion without bumping?

>> No.1968404

>>1968385
This is a discussion about the new sage function, I just wanted to drop my 2cents on the subject, even if sage was available I would have readily bumped it irregardless.

>> No.1968409

>>1968385
Why so butthurt LOL?

>> No.1968425

>>1968404

>irregardless

WHY DO PEOPLE SAY THIS?

>> No.1968437

>>1968425
BECAUSE PEOPLE DO
THIS IS HOW LANGUAGE WORKS
NEW WORDS FORM
EVEN IF YOU HATE THEM

>> No.1968442

>>1968437

I FUCKING HATE IT

>> No.1968448

>>1968437
For the last time, "gameplay" is a fucking stupid word. It is USELESS.

>> No.1968449

>>1968437

Only IRL trolls and assorted tools say it.

>> No.1968451

>>1968437
But "regardless" already means the same damn thing.

>> No.1968462

>>1968437
FUCK YES I'M GONNA START SAYING INUNNECESSARY WHICH MEANS THE SAME THING AS UNNECESSARY EXCEPT THAT IT HAS TWO EXTRA LETTERS, AND PEOPLE WILL ACCEPT IT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR LANGUAGE WHEN I USE IT OFTEN

>> No.1968468

>>1968451
regardless is usually used as an adjective
irregardless is usually used as an adverb

>> No.1968475

>>1968462
If other people start using it, then yes. Congratulations, you have artificially formed a new word.

>> No.1968482

Doh is officially a word, its in the dictionary, therefore I can use it!

>> No.1968486

>>1968468
Regardless can be used in many situations, and especially in all situations where irregardless would be usable. Irregardless is considered "non-standard" for a reason.

>> No.1968493

>>1968468
That doesn't even make sense.

>> No.1968502

>>1968493
It makes perfect sense. Do you not understand the meaning of "adjective" or "adverb"?

>> No.1968505

>>1968482
Adding it to the dictionary was just a stupid gimmick. It's not a word anymore than argh is a word

>> No.1968515

>>1968486

Isn't "irregardless" technically a double negative?

>> No.1968524

>>1968515
By that same logic, inflammable things would be safe near an open flame.

>> No.1968518

>>1968515
Yes, that's why it's retarded.

>> No.1968523
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1968523

To the people who are in favor of the new sage function. What do you have against >>1968310 this?

>Here's a simple way to fix sage so that people will start using it properly. Make a function on 4chan called "no bump." If the user presses the no-bump button the thread wont be bumped. Get rid of the email field and/or word filter sage to blank. That way people cant' use sage as an insult.

Give me one good reason why this is a bad idea?

>> No.1968520

>>1968515
Seems to me like it is.
So irregardless is to regardless what I could care less is to I couldn't care less.

>> No.1968526

>>1968520

>I could care less

>I couldn't care less

This actually makes sense. There's a chart about it somewhere. Something about reviews.

>> No.1968539

>>1968526
It boiled down to "I could care less" being general indifference, and "I couldn't care less" meaning you don't give a shit even if the matter is about to kill you.

>> No.1968544

>>1968524
The "in" part isn't a negative. Inflammable things are things that can be inflamed.

>> No.1968546

I gotta test this

Polite sage

>> No.1968549

>>1968523
because its a waste of fucking time

Anyone who hasn't read the rules/FAQ shouldn't be posting anyway

Whats hard about knowing that putting sage in the email field doesn't bump a thread?

Its not going to stop shitfucks like the ones saging this thread from shitposting anyway.

>> No.1968552

>>1968523
People will still use it as an insult. To address the biggest problem, sage bombing, you'd just have to sage bomb with an image that says "sage", which couldn't be filtered. And even if they didn't, people would still get that you're trying to ruin their threads if you post the same image of Goku over and over.

>> No.1968561

>>1968544
>The "in" part isn't a negative.
Your logic is incomprehensible.

>> No.1968572

>>1968552
But you can spam a thread whether you bump it or not. Why blame the smaller boards for the stupidity of the larger boards?

>> No.1968567

>>1968524

The problem with your point is that you're a jackass.

Seriously, now. Inflammable comes from 'inflame' that 'in' isn't the prefix for 'not'.

>> No.1968569

>>1968544
>>1968561

LOL, screwy etymologies.

>> No.1968577

>>1968549

You're just as much of a shitfuck, unfortunately.

Trolling's against the rules, you know?

>> No.1968582

Clearly the fact that something is inoxydable means it is particularly prone to rusting.

>> No.1968592

>>1968539
"I could care less" makes sense as a sentence, but it doesn't make sense in the context it's usually used. "I could care less" emphasizes the fact that you do care, therefore it doesn't work when trying to tell someone that you don't care that much. It's like trying to tell someone that you're angry by saying "It would be possible for me to be more angry than I am right now"

>> No.1968593

>>1968582

You really are stupid... aren't you?

>> No.1968597

>>1968552
That's called image spamming and it has nothing to do with sage. If I wanted to I could disrupt this debate by spamming this thread with Goku pictures.

To deal with that problem all you have to do is as an image reply limit (something moot has already done).

And wordfiltering sage would be enough to stop people from using it as an insult (and you and me both know that). And as far as posting sage as an image (image macros are against the rules). And I doubt it would become a problem.


>>1968549
You obviously haven't been here for long. What about when you want to reply to a thread without bumping it?

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1968618

To all Anons who are against this sage function. We must send moot a common message. Everybody copypaste >>1968310 this and e-mail it to moot.

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1968619

>>1968561
I'm going to make this simple. See these two definitions? It's the second one.

>> No.1968623

They should implement hiding threads and other features into the site directly somehow. I don't want to use firefox but the hiding thread feature would make up for lack of sages.

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1968630

>this entire thread

>> No.1968634

>>1968618
EPIC RAID XD

>> No.1968636

>>1968618
nobody really cares enough to send a email, enjoy failing miserably

>> No.1968649

>>1968597
>That's called image spamming and it has nothing to do with sage. If I wanted to I could disrupt this debate by spamming this thread with Goku pictures.
It has a lot to do with sage, because it's most commonly used as a way to "kill a thread more quickly", something which doesn't quite work without sage, as you'd be forcing the thread unto the first page for quite a while before it died.

>And as far as posting sage as an image (image macros are against the rules).
Sure, but this rule wouldn't be enforced anymore quickly than the rule against sage-bombing would. Basically, the wordfilter would be circumvented, and the circumvention would mean that it'd only be able for mods to detect it once it's reported, which is exactly how things were when it was a problem.

>> No.1968653

Whee, now every faggot that posts in a shitty thread will bump it to the top.

We can only hope moderators will notice these threads.

But that's a fantasy.

>> No.1968656

Why doesn't moot just stop sage from showing up at all?
That would be much more useful than this.

>> No.1968657

Well, sourcefags can go to hell then because I'm not going to bump a thread just to give them a silly link.

>> No.1968664

>>1968649

>It has a lot to do with sage

I'm not sure. Image spamming pretty much kills a thread even if it's at the top of page 0.

>> No.1968666

>>1968656
Exactly.

>> No.1968667

>>1968653
good threads will get bumped more than shitty threads

>> No.1968672

>>1968666
>666

>> No.1968677

People need to learn not to be offended by sage.

Sage is Heaven~

>> No.1968678

>>1968667
This is what idiots believe.

>> No.1968683

>>1968623
You know what I'd like to see? I know it's just a fantasy and that it'd never happen, but I'd like to see a tool that secretly registers each time a thread is hidden. The information gathered from this would be sent to some mods or something, who could use the statistics are a kind of "disapproval rate". In theory, the threads most people decided to hide, the threads with the highest disapproval rate, would be the worst threads. If the disapproval rates were significantly high, the mods could consider banning the ones with the highest disapproval rates.

I'm just going to clarify again: Do not respond to this post as if it was a serious suggestion.

>> No.1968707

>>1968683
This is just another form of "voting moderation," which is a terrible idea, because the rest of you are mindless apes and I trust your collective opinions about as much as I trust the Sun to rise from the west.

>> No.1968709

>>1968683
That sounds like a great idea. If we got rid of Anonymous posting and made everyone get accounts (mostly free) locked to a specific name and secure tripcode, then we'd be able to solve problems easier.
How about we have computer specifically identify themselves so that, even with different IPs, they still can be matched. That would stop ban-dodgers.
Someone should Email Moot these ideas STAT!

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