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1963974 No.1963974 [Reply] [Original]

What the fuck is up with sage, I can't post more than once every three minutes.
How fucking stupid is that?

>> No.1963980

Moot is fag

>> No.1963983

blame it on the idol threads that keep feeding the trolls..

>> No.1963986

Sage abuse lead to this. Blame the faster boards. That or blame moot for implementing it.

>> No.1963985

moot isnt aware that some people actually use sage properly.

>> No.1963987

no Anonymous, you are stupid. stop sage posting, polite or not, or just shut up.

>> No.1963988

Thank Dedicated Aya Hirano-sama fan for that.

>> No.1963994

>>1963974
reported, aged because i can't sage, hidden

>> No.1963998

By the way, can you go and age a thread on page 10 of /a/ every time you want to sage in /jp/?

>> No.1963995

Actually, I have such a slow posting rate that I am largely unaffected by this. It does seem a little silly though.

>> No.1963997

FUCKING MOOT

I CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT SHITTY THREADS WITHOUT BUMPING NOW WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.1964015

>>1963974

you dont even know what the fuck sage does do you, man.

>> No.1964016

>>1963998
That's stupid.

And because of moot's dumb update, I can't post more than once every three minutes.

>> No.1964017

You can only "sage" once per 10 minutes in a whole board. I said it yesterday, it's retarded. I blame /v/ for it, they have a really bad misconception on what sage used to be.

>> No.1964023

>>1964015
I do, honey, it's just that I contribute to absolutely nothing, hence, mostly post using sage.

>> No.1964031

Sage+image bomb scripts caused this.

>> No.1964035

>>1964023
Is it really that bad that you have to wait 3 minutes between posts when you don't have anything to contribute anyway?

>> No.1964040

>>1964023
Not your honey, darling

>> No.1964045

I'm out of sages. On two IPs. Six shots isn't enough to work with.

moot, let me reload, threads need to know that they suck without being bumped.

>> No.1964050

>>1963995
Thanks for contributing, faggot.

>> No.1964058

>>1964017
I think /a/ is mostly to blame. Someone linked a sagebombing script so people were sagebombing every thread they didn't like. The changes to sage really helped /a/, but moot should have made them board specific because sage is actually used correctly on the slower boards (probably because they're the only boards where sage still has any noticable effect).

>> No.1964068

>>1964058

I think it's specific to zip.4chan. Why do we have to still be stuck on the same server as them? /v/ too.

>> No.1964070

SAGESAGE

>> No.1964073

>>1964058

I think it's specific to zip.4chan. In other words, the SFW boards. God dammit, split up the servers, moot.

>> No.1964080

>>1964040
I'm not your darling, waifu.

>> No.1964077

thread reported

>> No.1964079

Flood detected
Post discarded

>> No.1964081

>>1963987
This.
YOU ARE FUCING ASSHOLE,OP.

>> No.1964084

How does I ask moot to take this off /jp/ without getting banned ?

>> No.1964094

>>1964084
Deal with it fag

>> No.1964088

there are women in the thread.

had suspected them now for years etc.

>> No.1964099

FUCK HOW WILL I SAGEBOMB THE IDOLFAGS NOW?!

>> No.1964097

I'll post some copypasta I took from here, precisely.

I still laugh at how 4chan doesn't understand what sage means.

If only I knew moon so I wouldn't have to spend time on a board that imports foreign concepts and then DOES IT WRONG all the time.

Using sage as a way to "insult" someone's post or thread is just completely wrong and a retarded misuse of a good feature that is so popular in sites like 2ch and Futaba. Fuck, iichan and 4-ch do it right. It's just 4chan and 4chan's lame knockoffs that fail at using sage.

The true meaning of sage means that YOUR POST isn't worthy enough to bump the thread. It's ironic, because you think that you're insulting others while you're just, in fact, insulting yourself. Yes, sage can be used when posting a derogatory comment in a thread that you don't want to bump, but posting with just the word "sage" accomplishes nothing but contribute to spamming the board. The trend of replying with the name of a tripfag and sage is even worse, as it accomplishes nothing and only serves to increase the e-penis of whoever you're "attacking".

The sage feature was never meant to serve as an implied insult or general disagreement! Why people started using it that way is beyond me. There are plenty of reasons why one would choose not to bump a thread with his reply. For example, bumping threads with stupid one liner replies should be discouraged and those people should be coerced into using sage instead.

I want to use sage, yet I almost never do it on 4chan because people will jump on me thinking I'm insulting their post or something.

>> No.1964100

I wish moot would force people to enter something in the subject field when they're making a new thread.

>> No.1964101

>>1964084

Email him.

I emailed him asking him to increase time during for image replies/normal replies due to sagebombers ruining any discussion on /a/.

I don't know if that effected his decision on the change though.

>> No.1964102

>>1964080
I'm not your waifu, life partner.

>> No.1964104

>>1964081
Asshole for using sage? Are you retarded?
>>1964084
Send him an email. If you're really really paranoid, send an email from a proxy.

>> No.1964106

>>1964099
just agebomb them instead, i think posts stop bumping after 200 replies

will fuck up the boards, but it's worth it to make moot realize his errors

>> No.1964108
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>>1964084
Email him.

>> No.1964110

Isn't that great? Now even the shittiest little opinions will be bumping threads!

>> No.1964120
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1964120

Well whoop-de-fucking-do.
Let's just change those image dumps scripts to not output sage in the email field anymore.

>> No.1964121

>>1964110
Anyone who had the courtesy to politely sage in the first place will most likely wait, not post at all, or find some other method of not bumping the thread.

Yes, this is an annoyance, but it's not going to ruin the board.

>> No.1964133

>>1964120

I believe he also increase the wait time to post images and threads.

>> No.1964136

>>1964121
I don't, I troll instead.

>> No.1964135

A 10 minute limit on "age" would be interesting.

>> No.1964139

It's not as rampant on /jp/ but sage bombers and ones that just always post with sage are to blame.
That and of course people that use it to insult someone.

Doesn't really affect me, I don't sage very often because ITS NOT AN INSULT.

God knows I'm tired of seeing threads being sagebombed by scriptfags that just bomb threads for half an hour because they don't like the thread.

FYI if you're complaining about the change to sage on /jp/ also then there's a very high chance that you are one of these idiots that uses it wrong.

>> No.1964151

wanna know how to get a reasonable sage back?

Make a TON of shitty threads. If someone came up with a script to produce new shit threads you could push all the relevant threads to page 10. This would enrage posters and moot would change the sage wait time to a more reasonable length.

>> No.1964155

>>1964151
I think you forgot the logic part in your reasoning.

>> No.1964157

>>1964139
So it's unreasonable to complain about the restriction of something that's not an insult?

>> No.1964161

>>1964151
That has been done before, on old /b/. He knows how to deal with that already. Do not try it.

>> No.1964159

Oh well, I guess I'm going to email moot, hopefully, he'll do something, normally, he'll tell me to fuck off, and if he's pissed, I'll be banned.

>> No.1964162
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1964162

If you fuckers would of used sage properly.

/jp/ is better then most boards, but moot has said many times there's a huge misconception about what it does.

>> No.1964169

>>1964166
What? Hardly anybody on /jp/ uses it like that. Only a few idiots.

>> No.1964166

>>1964157
Except everyone does use it as such.
So yes.

>> No.1964167

if everyone that sees a blatantly stupid thread sages once it still has an effect. even if it doesn't do anything to get rid of the thread at least it shows that we're not going to tolerate stupid shit.

the advice is always to ignore the thread if you don't like it, or to make a thread about something you do like. fuck that shit. if someone shows up to a party and starts puking on the furniture, you don't ignore it or try to have a conversation somewhere else. in real life we have dirty looks and middle fingers. here were enter sage int the email field and tell the op he's a huge faggot.

>> No.1964173

Sage does not make a thread go down quicker.
It simply doesn't bump the thread. I personally like the change,trolls will probably get less attention once people get used to not replying instead of saging+angry message.

>> No.1964178

>>1963985
>moot isnt aware that some people actually use sage properly.

The "proper" way to use sage IS to say some thread sucks without bumping it. If you have anything else to say, you should bump the thread so other people see it.

Keep in mind that 99% of 4chan users only ever browse the two first pages of any forum, and about 50% only browse the top page.

>> No.1964185

>>1964167
> if someone shows up to a party and starts puking on the furniture, you don't ignore it or try to have a conversation somewhere else
I'd take a dump in his mouth.

>> No.1964180

>>1964173
Except nothing will change. People will still reply, only now they'll also be bumping the thread.

>> No.1964181

>>1964155
Makes perfect sense to me. Sage's and Age's are used as a voting tool by users so that relevant threads are maintained on the first page.

If a script is produced that posts new threads every X seconds, only N many users could fight to Sage that scripts flooding. Once the users use up their Sage's, they will have to wait 3 minutes to Sage. By that time the influx of new threads will have pushed a large number of legitimate threads past page 10. If the user is banned, that person can just come back through proxy.

>> No.1964186

>>1964139
it's not the sage that's a problem, it's the bombing part. now if someone wns to shit up a thread he's also going to be shitting up the front page

>> No.1964187

>>1964181
Are you drunk?

>> No.1964188

>>1964181

Sage does nothing, they would just ignore the threads.

>> No.1964189

Moot needs to implement threadvoting, hiding or ignoring shitty threads is not a solution

>> No.1964193

>>1964167

The problem starts when one guy starts multisaging the shit out of a thread where 20-30 people are having a good time just because he alone disapproves of it. See: the Ruby threads at /tg/.

Sage once and move on.

>> No.1964200

>>1964189
>threadvoting
This would only end badly.

>> No.1964196

HAY FELLOW FORMER SAGEFAGS!
AGING THREADS ON THE LAST PAGE HAS THE SAME EFFECT AS SAGING PAGES ON THE FIRST PAGE LOL!

GO EAT A DICK MOOTYKINS~

>> No.1964197

>>1964181
sage doesn't push threads down

>> No.1964201

>>1964166
There will always be trolling. Now, instead of having it kept relatively down, you'll just see constantly on the front page. Don't think that just because there's a sage limit, some idiot won't start trolling the idol thread, pushing it constantly to page 0.

Like it was said before, having sage had no actual effect on /jp/ threads. It keeps the thread relatively in the same position so it's not really doing any harm. Sure, it'd make the thread 0.5% closer to the bump limit, but bad threads usually don't get that high. Taking sage out only messes with this nice balance.

>> No.1964205

>>1964189

Yeah, because that shit totally has worked where it's tried and does not devolve into "I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINION, THEREFORE I WILL DOWNVOTE THIS THREAD 500 TIMES" at all.

People never fucking "rate" things based on how good or interesting or well written they really are, they rate them based on whether they agree with them or not and anything else is of no consequence to them. If you want to increase the quality of discussion, one of the worst fucking things you can do is implement voting.

>> No.1964207

learn how to hide threads newfags

>> No.1964211

What needs to be enabled is a way to Tag threads that are relevant to your interests in a "Custom Board" that only you are able to view.

>> No.1964215

moot you fucking faggot

>> No.1964220

>>1964197
And a mass influx of Age's would be far more effective than Sage Bombing. That's the fucking point the person was trying to make.

>> No.1964221

What I'd really want is a way to hide all sage posts.

>> No.1964228

>>1964220
You are that person and you're a fucking imbecile.

>> No.1964225

>>1964211

In /a/ sticky moot said something about wanting to do a catalog function, not enough bandwidth.

>> No.1964230

>>1964211
That kind of functionality is up to users to implement.

>> No.1964231

>>1964221
There's a firefox add-on if you're that retarded.

>> No.1964229

>>1964225
If 2ch can do it, 4chan can as well.

>> No.1964232

>>1964221

Use 4chan filter.

>> No.1964234

Futaba has awesome firefox add-ons, why the fuck doesn't 4chan have decent ones?

>> No.1964240

>>1964228
I think the only person that doesn't understand it is you. The problem is, the method is easy for Moot to deal with b/c it was already done before.

>> No.1964254

>>1964207
you're part of the problem faggot. how are "newfags" supposed to be able to identify bad threads if you don't do anything to point them out?

>> No.1964262

>>1964254
what do you mean by bad threads?

>> No.1964260

Well, that turned to shit fast enough.
Deleting the thread.

>> No.1964264

>>1964254
they lurk more and use their brains.

>> No.1964266

I blame everyone except myself.

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