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A thread for the discussion of any and all works by Type-MOON, or Kinoko Nasu

>TYPE-MOON's official site
http://www.typemoon.com/
>TYPE-MOON's official site before going commercial
http://www.typemoon.org/
>TYPE-MOON BOOKS
http://typemoon.com/book/typemoonbooks
>TYPE-MOON Mega Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk (embed)

Type Moon General Download Links

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
https://nyaa.si/view/943509

>Kara no Kyoukai - The Garden of Sinners
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2JOyyHPMlkxMTRiMzIwZjMtODU2Ny00NDk0LWE5MzQtNGI4OTg3NmMyN2Zi?hl=en_US

>Tsuki-Bako (Lunar Box) - includeva Tsukihime, PLUS+DISC, Kagetsu Tohya
Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under the Crimson Air
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime: Lunar Legend
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
Tsukihime PLUS+DISK
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya: Twilight Glass Moon, Fairy Tale Princess
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/291819

>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY

>MELTY BLOOD - Hologram Summer, NIGHT ON THE BLOOD LAIR
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code - Community Edition (cccaster v3.0a.020)
https://nyaa.si/view/1041549
Melty Blood: Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Chapter 1: Dream.01
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16vdZqbX39Ww33EvcIrpRK29A_oGaPwmK
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NMGF7IiLosnFD1t_j4ImeJYsHrFxoKl5
Melty Blood manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
https://livingflcl.eva-not-end.com/manga/complete/melty-blood.html

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2386805
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2432745
Fate/zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Fate/strange Fake
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read

>Holy Grail 2.0 - TYPE-MOON PC Games
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Type Moon Mega Folder
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw

Books

>Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Decoration Disorder Disconnection (DDD)
https://mega.nz/#!8BJQnaBK!kdrZ107A9Th4amk4RJoX81txOcMwR6OmyaULDtlt1no
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-1/pdf-and-epub-version-2/
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Lord El Melloi II Case Files
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e310zzwwyhmw0cw/Lord+El+Melloi+II+Case+Files+Volume+1.pdf
>Today's MENU for the EMIYA Family
https://mangadex.org/manga/18712/what-s-cooking-at-the-emiya-house-today

Other Links

>Beast's Lair forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Crucis Fatal + Fake
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2www4qbvi22xhwd/CRUCIS+FATAL+FAKE.rar
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ/edit?usp=sharing
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Fuyuki Rebuild
http://tatari.byethost33.com/
>Melty Bread: Melty Blood (and French Bread) news stuffs. We have character discussion forums!
www.meltybread.com/forums/
>TMdict: Glossaries from works by Type-Moon
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan: A small Type-Moon site
tsukikan.com/

The past >>19504491

>> No.19564258

How long until TsukiR news?

>> No.19564282

So is Notes the result of Leonardo Harwey winning the moon holy grail war?

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>> No.19564320

Not necessarily, though people have related Extra to Notes for the longest time.
What makes you think the planet would die with Leo, but not with Rin, Hakuno, or anyone else?

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>>19564320
Meant for >>19564282

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*sips Aoko's breast milk*

>> No.19564343

Nasu should make more nee-sans. There aren't nearly enough of them.

>> No.19564384

>>19564338
Gawain, you have other choices easier to obtain.
Besides, you ain't getting any of it.

>> No.19564404

>>19564384
I mean, it isn't normal for somebody to lactate outside of pregnancy cycles.

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>>19564328
>>19564338
>>19564384
>>19564404
Aoko is pure, cease.

>> No.19564448

What does Aoko's breast milk taste like?

>> No.19564453

>>19564422
Aoko loves only me

>> No.19564472

>>19564448
Speculation.
>>19564453
Nobody, actually.

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>>19564320
Because twice pieceman said that [overcount 1999] would be the result of Harwey winning.

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tried to make a meme and made an absolute abomination instead

>> No.19564518

>>19564482
Cool. I didn't rewatch with subs yet so I didn't get what Overcount 1999 was about.

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>> No.19564586

>>19564527
>>19564538
>>19564549
>>19564567
>We will never see more of this trio
I hate it.

>> No.19564603

>>19564586
I also hate it.

>> No.19564618

>>19564586
You're not the only one.

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Who has an apron that goes with their pajamas?
Rin is weird.

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It's hot.

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Why do you secondaries read English translations? Isn't this supposed to be the thread for primaries?

There is so much cultural nuance and meaning lost in the horrible translations.

>> No.19565518

>>19565420
Because learning Japanese is hard and not everyone has the time or motivation to do it.
I'll definitely try harder if Tsukihime Remake gets a proper release date or at least an estimate, but more because I wouldn't wanna wait than for any cultural nuance.

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>>19565420

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>>19565531
Why do secondaries read horrible English translations? The available translations very poorly represent Nasu's writing style.

There is so much cultural nuance differences between translated text and source language text and meaning lost in the travesty of bootleg translations.

So why?

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Cute

>> No.19565592

>>19565549
I can't help it.

>> No.19565674

>>19565592
Takajun was an ESL student which is why all of the FSN translation is awkward and overtly literal. However he hated translating the sex scenes so he rushed them and as a result they're even more awkward and full of mistakes. Stuff like "educated prostitute", "feels so good that I'll vomit" or "her anus is a great nightmare" are blatant translation errors that people act as if they're representative of Nasu's writing. That's the equivalent of reading the Duwang translation of Jojo and claiming that Araki can't write.

Did anybody else feel underwhelmed by the translation of Nasu's writing for Camelot? The translations felt really standard and barebones.

So why can't you learn Japanese?

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>>19565549
Early Nasu's writing style isn't very good to begin with, it's evident in both Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai. I'd rather read the English over the Japanese version for Tsukihime because it's easier to swallow and less frustrating to read in my opinion. Also being able to read the work and understanding cultural nuances of the work are two different things to someone from the outside reading it, in this case the EN->JP reader won't be able to carry that over let alone express it properly without a proper class in modern Japanese and again that wouldn't be enough. In short the answer is convenience.

>> No.19565700

>>19565674
Because it isn't worth it anymore. TM is dead and with them, my desire to learn JP died too.

>> No.19565721

>>19565674
>That's the equivalent of reading the Duwang translation of Jojo and claiming that Araki can't write.
I unironically would like to read a Duwang translation of Jojo, most of them are laughably bad.

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Do do do doo doo
DOO DOO
DOO DOO DOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMjHE-ewNvg

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I need more Alice

>> No.19566957

>>19564586
Shirou-Rin-Saber is like 80% the same

>> No.19566981

>>19565549
Because I can spend years autistically learning how to read moon for the sake of reading un/badly translated otaku works or I can read what's available in my native tongue and keep in mind the stuff is probably better written in moon

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>>19565721
>I unironically would like to read a Duwang translation of Jojo, most of them are laughably bad.
>I unironically would like to read a Duwang translation of Jojo
>Duwang translation of Jojo

ummm.... you know that -oh fuck it.

>> No.19567044

>>19566957
They're really fucking not outside of general personality traits, they're not the same characters and they don't have the same relationships at all.
And it's not like you're getting a lot of new Shirou/Saber/Rin anyway.

>> No.19567366

>>19565420
>>19565549
>>19565674
Good for you.
This is only an interest, not something to devout such time to learning just for a gain, which in the end many feel isn't quite worth it unless you make something out of the skill.
Unless you are an autistic otaku and that is basically all you enjoy, then it isn't worth it.
If you intend to apply this learning, it certainly can be worth it.

>> No.19567370

>>19566957
No.

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Passionlip is my wife!

>> No.19568088

Hi /tmg/, this might be stupid/autistic, but I'm confused. I've been playing Fate/Stay Night and I'm wondering, can you change routes in the course of the game in Realta Nua? I thought it would somehow not be possible, but looking at a flowchart that came with my download and what I tried out in-game, I could go into UBW from the Fate route when Rin offers an alliance on Day 4. Does the game eventually go full circle back to Fate? I'm already some days farther than that having accepted the alliance, just went back, rejected it and let it run for a bit out of curiosity, and it seems it does change the route.

tl;dr
Can you change routes within one .exe in F/SN Realta Nua?

>> No.19568100

>>19568088
You can get bad ends, but you can't change routes.

>> No.19568109

>>19568088
The choice in UBW that leads back into Fate, from what I remember, inevitably results in a bad ending a couple of days later.
I've actually never played the version of FSN with separate .exes, but I'm fairly sure they do hard lock you to a route.

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>> No.19568140

>>19568100
>>19568109
Thanks!

>> No.19569383

>>19567366
>This is only an interest, not something to devout such time to learning just for a gain
>>19566981
>Because I can spend years autistically learning how to read moon for the sake of reading un/badly translated otaku works
>>19565688
>the EN->JP reader won't be able to carry that over let alone express it properly without a proper class in modern Japanese
How would you know if you haven't tried it?

>> No.19569462

>>19569383
Because I'm tired of this condescending shilling for something which to me is only one of a few interests in fictional mediums.
Just shut up, if translations or even summaries for important things don't come up, that is fate.
And more importantly machine translating is getting better, though it will be hard to pick up subtle nuances in the writing, but even that is hard to pick up for those who have it as a second language.
Accept that people don't have the same opinion on something and to leave them alone.

>> No.19569472

>>19567439
Good taste!

>> No.19569626

>>19569462
Not >>19565420, but again, all the reasons given have been based on misconceptions and laziness rather than a rational measurement of time and energy. It only takes 30 minutes a day to begin reading within a year. Japanese lessons in a classroom environment are notoriously butchered and worthless. And machine translation definitely isn't going to match the abilities of a fluent speaker within the same time frame. If not, I speak from experience when saying that it can make just about everything more enjoyable than a translation. To me at least, going back to something I once read in English genuinely feels like a completely different story. Whether one finds the learning experience fun or not depends on the person, and if they don't feel any sense of accomplishment once they begin to put learning into practice, then that's fine too.

There certainly are worthwhile reasons not to bother, though. Just to go through a few possibilities:
Is Nasu the only Japanese writer whose work you have any interest in consuming?
Is cognitively recognizing a difference in quality a substitute for actually experiencing it?
Do you care about the accuracy of the public perception of Fate/stay night and Tsukihime?
Most importantly, why do you enjoy them?

If none of that is good enough, you can just ignore the post and move on.

>> No.19569691

>>19569626
I just think the discussion is worthless unless somebody is actually making the decision to do it.
Those who lack the capacity to look at the work as written aren't going to complain if somebody acknowledges where the translation is flawed.
But if nobody does, then you get the misconceptions.
Ultimately this can be fixed through those who do know better making sure the true interpretation is known.
This burden shouldn't be on the English only readers.

>> No.19569720

>>19569691
And If you want my reason why I enjoy TM, for the most part I'm quite indifferent, it all goes down to a single character, without them I wouldn't care about TM and care even less about general Japanese media.
As it is now, I wish said character would be taken by somebody else.

>> No.19569907

>>19569691
That's completely right, but we're not quite there yet. In the meantime, every time a person reads the mirror-moon translation of FSN, the issue becomes harder to rectify. I appreciate that mirror-moon has done more for the western fanbase than anyone else, but the problem isn't even that it's too literal, it's just broken.

It's like ufotable's secondaries and the pure Zerofags on Reddit and /a/. There's so much mixed up or otherwise missing, but the average person is predisposed to prefer the option they were first exposed to regardless of other factors. Of course, I can't exactly claim to be doing my own translation, though.

>> No.19569934

>>19569907
There are many places which have done plenty of work to help collate things together to make it easier to understand for everyone, on top of getting things straight.
But as you said, we are still well off where we should be.
Efforts to fix this are only half baked, let alone the many TL disasters over the years.
Of course I'm in no position to complain, I try to pick up what I can and I tend to say questionable things so I can be corrected.

>> No.19570437

Nasu's Moonlight Lost Room released information compilation lore so far:
>How the Master rayshifting worked on the coffin (where once existence becomes completely sealed off the world, so you're alive and dead, before conversion to spiritrons, a lot detailed info about how it works). Potential reason why the Crypters were 'dead' as far as they knew and the "God" may have rayshifted them and conned them.
>Animusphere prayer/chant/spell true meaning. Potential connection with the priestess and the god ("The heavenly bodies become as a hollow. [Antrum]. The hollow becomes as the void. [Unbirth]. In the void, [Anima] there is God [Animusphere]").
>The truth behind the name of "Moonlight Lost Room" area. Originally it was named Moonlight, but got later called Lost Room due to the weird phenomena, Dr. Roman insisted to add Moonlight back on its name.
>The Lostbelt story of what ifs. Hints to Kirsch is the land where gods live like Ophelia, Pepe's got the world were many cycle of death and rebirth happened (land of lotuses = India?). and Hinako has one where the quest of the immortality of certain someone was successful (Emperor Qing for sure).
>The core of the Moonlight Lost Room takes place inside a dream of three people who are dreaming, plus one who isn't. The one who doesn't dream (Olga), the living one who dreams (Ritsuka), the dead one who dreams (Lev), and the "yet unknown" who dreams (Unrevealed).

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Shiki...

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>> No.19571210

>>19570804
Nasu rape is best rape.

>> No.19571223

>>19565420
Why are the so-called primaries downloading, you should have all the Visual Novels and their different editions.

>> No.19571236

>>19571223
Sigh, not everyone is willing to buy physical copies from Japanese sites.
People who would need the YTL patches anyway would prefer officially released localised releases, then you would get plenty more sales.
That is purely a business idea.
In further regard to this, stop being a condescending prick.

>> No.19571249

>>19569907

I'm honestly hoping that FGO making money in the West will open someone's eyes to the fact that there is a market for the source material and that it will be handled by a translation team with a good editor.

Unfortunately, you've also touched on something that occurred to me recently, the parts of the Western fanbase that care more about FGO on a "shallow" level or the anime adaptions are unwilling to demand good translations. They're content with what has been done over the years and the summaries they can read on Reddit. Even worse, FGO being translated into English has brought out people who are exactly as you describe, people who deride the English translation not on any factual basis, but because it differs from the fan translations they've read.

>> No.19571252

>>19571236
>sigh
>more sales

Wow, you are new.

>> No.19571260

>>19571223
Sure if Type-Moon puts out something good instead of garbage like Extella Link then I'd buy it.

>> No.19571263

>>19571252
Nah, I don't see why I should put effort into combating low effort leading shitposts.

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>>19571223
It is expensive.

>> No.19571492

>>19571260
This, I bought Extella and honestly regret it.
Won't spend money on anything Type-Moon again unless it's not mobage/musou shit, and ideally not Fate.

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Nurse Sakura's big butt...

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M-Mama Shiki...

>> No.19572903

>>19567366
>>19569462
>>19569626
Why are EOPs so triggered by learning Japanese? You are the plagues of the fanbase.

>> No.19572934

ufotable did a cute drawing of younger Sakura in First Interlude
https://twitter.com/ufotable/status/1025349720686743552
I hope there's an audio drama for the 2nd and 3rd movies too.

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>>19572903

>> No.19573511

fuck i feel so smart
i managed to change JAPANESE tsukihime's music to ever after and that shit ain't as easy as just putting music you need into cd folder

>> No.19573523

>>19573511
Congrats anon.

>> No.19573537

>>19573523
ty

>> No.19573586

>>19573511
>I managed to follow simple instructions
まさか!

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>>19568118
I like the contrast in this bit with the tone of the rest of the game with the fact you're in a different town and all your problems are left behind. I think this is what going to heaven must be like.

>> No.19573640

>>19573586
そのまさか!

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>> No.19576771

>>19575166
That's one cute Arc

>> No.19578581

>>19576771
I love the Shiki in Saber cosplay.

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Anons... you're a bit dead today.

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Wake up /tmg/!

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>>19580945
I'm awake now.

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>>19580945
A-Amari san..

>> No.19583087

>>19581520
Amari-san's drama CD is out, right?
Anything interesting besides more unecessary fluff?

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>>19583087
She summoned Fenrir, was the leader of Shinji's slutty police force, and died fighting Rin on the first floor while Hakuno was talking with Shinji.

>> No.19583186

>>19583138
Huh. Seems weird that they delayed everything related to her until the 3rd floor then.
Wasn't there also something about her moving to the 3rd floor?

>> No.19583257
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>>19583186
Third floor was the farthest she made it until running into Alice and escaping back to the first floor.

Amari also smokes in addition to her drinking.

>> No.19583392

Do you still believe Takeuchi will make TsukiR look good, /tmg/?

>> No.19583465
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>>19583392
I'm not dissatisfied with how the backgrounds and most of the character designs except Arc look so far.
We've yet to see any CGs though, I wonder how consistent he can remain in those without re-using poses and shit.
Although all things considered, as much as his samefaces are annoying, the VN will definitely look better overall than Tsukihime or FSN, and I'll be satisfied with that if it delivers in every other aspect.
I think Mahoyo will still look better in the end, since it's shorter and by a better artist.

>> No.19583550

>>19583465
>by a better artist
I never got this, since Koyama has even worse sameface than Takeuchi. He doesn't even differentiate his male and female faces.

>> No.19583560

>>19583550
If you really see the same face on Soujuurou and Aoko, I really don't know what to say anon.

>> No.19583586
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>>19583550
I mean, his faces are pretty doll-like and samey in terms of the eyes, it's true, but I don't think it's as overt as Takeuchi's copy-pasting, since he literally does stuff at the exact same angle ad naseum and literally reuses sketches over and over. Koyama's pretty good about variance in terms of expressions, poses, and bodies -- that sort of thing. And speaking of bodies, he's far, far better at drawing appealing ones than Takeuchi ever will be, in my opinion. It's no doubt that Koyama's work is pretty inconsistent, though. I mean, just look at that abortion he turned in for FGO recently. Looked amateur as fuck.

>> No.19583594

>>19583586
that is one delicious BB butt

>> No.19583601

>>19583586
is pic related for those last two sentences? cause it looks fine

>> No.19583612

>>19583601
Anon that art's way older than GO shit.
He's talking about the newest Aoko clone Servant.

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>>19583601
>is pic related for those last two sentences?
No. I'm talking about this trash (pic related)
I really like the image I posted.

>> No.19583619

>>19583616
Even the JPs complained for this one I think

>> No.19583634

>>19583612
Aoko clone? It looks more like a Scathach clone.

>> No.19583640

>>19583634
Scat is an Aoko clone herself

>> No.19583659

>>19583640
I'm not seeing the resemblance...

>> No.19583720
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>> No.19583749

>>19583619
Koyama had to fix the sprite, that is how bad it was.
Though I can't complain about him phoning it in for GO, shows how little effort you actually need to make it work.

>> No.19583765

>>19583749
Isn't this like the third time he's had to fix shit in GO?

>> No.19583766

>>19583634
Skadi is basically still Scat.
>>19583659
Somebody should ask Koyama if there is an intention of this, or if it is him being lazy and just deciding to be derivative.

>> No.19583770

>>19583765
Yes.

>> No.19583855

>>19583616

It really is surprising how bad she looks compared to the PV image.

>> No.19583932

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JUST ANNOUNCE SOME FUCKING REMAKE NEWS I CAN'T TAKE IT

>> No.19583935

I want Mahoyo 2...

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I'm chimping out over the 3 years of no news lads.
He can't keep getting away with it.
Please TM Ace be good this year, I beg you Nasu-sama.

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19586749

>Arc
>Ciel
>Satsuki
>Akiha
>Hisui
>Kohaku

Rank them best to worst

>> No.19586772

>>19586749
Hisui > Kohaku = Akiha > Arc = Sacchin > Ciel.

>> No.19586776

>>19586749
Arc > Sacchin > Kohaku > Ciel > Akiha > Hisui

I honestly really like all of them though. Hisui a bit less so.

>> No.19586980

>>19586749
len

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>> No.19587049

>>19586749
Sacchin > Arcade > Ciel > Kohaku > Hisui > Akiha

>> No.19587363

>>19586749
Akiha>Arc>Kohaku>Satsuki>Hisui>>>>>>Ciel

>> No.19587419

>>19572903
Why would I learn Japanese? It's fine if you're a paid translator but I wouldn't get a job since I'm ESL.
Spending thousands of hours just for visual novels sounds autistic as hell.

>> No.19587435

>>19587419
He's just being a provocateur.

>> No.19587436

>>19587363
>>>>>>>Ciel

Why does everyone hate Ciel?

>> No.19587445
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19587445

Mirror Moon has shut down.

Did you thank Mirror Moon for translating Tsukihime and Melty Blood?

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>> No.19587735

>>19587436
My reasons:
The curry shit isn't funny
I don't like short hair
Her hatred of Arc goes too far
She gets in the way of the other girls, who I believe are better love interests.

Her back story is really cool though.

>> No.19587973

>>19587445
Yeah, I have to. I wouldn't have made it through my teen years without Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night.

>> No.19588014

>>19583616
>>19583720
>>19583734
Koyama is way better than this. I guess even good artists can put out complete garbage once in awhile.

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>> No.19588122

>>19588014
can someone explain what's so wrong about it?

>> No.19588179

>>19587568
Is this Alice?

>> No.19588192

>>19588014
I'm actually pleased in a way that he is messing up these particular designs, because they are too uninspired to deserve proper treatment.
>>19588122
Body to head alignment is messed up, he has also taken certain traits too far as to be anatomically garbage.
The giraffe neck was a consequence of this.
This >>19583720 was a fan edit on the right, which is far better.
But as I've said, to hell with Scat, she deserves far less than what she has.

>> No.19588198

>>19588179
Alice is pretty distinct.
Yes.

>> No.19588245

Welp, got hammered on /vg/ because a certain biased hotpocket cannot handle criticism.
I really need to question why I still bother, it is more trouble than it is worth.

>> No.19588272

>>19588245
Oh, not at all as a direct attack on moderation, that would be asking for it, but just a simple post shittalking a character.
Not the first time, and certainly not the last.

>> No.19588280

>>19588245
>Welp, got hammered on /vg/ because a certain biased hotpocket cannot handle criticism.

Give us the run down?

>> No.19588299

>>19588280
It was literally a post poking fun at a fan of a character and using it as an example of the general attitude of said characters fans as a whole.

>> No.19588325

>>19588245
Deserved.

>> No.19588333

>>19588245
Don't go to /vg/, or at least don't complain it about it to us here.
It's seriously annoying, as someone who goes there to shitpost and shit on FGO exclusively, don't be a whiny baby.

>> No.19588345

>>19588325
Yeah, nah.
>>19588333
Only this time, but it is a persistent problem over there.

>> No.19588346

>>19588299
>fun at a fan of a character

Kiara?

>> No.19588363

I'm not sure why you guys keep going there if you hate FGO this much. Not like shitting on it will make it die.

>> No.19588380
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19588380

But Fate GO is Great though.

>> No.19588396

>>19588346
Nope.
https://archived.moe/vg/thread/223643367/#q223643454
I'll admit, I want it to die.

>> No.19588404

>>19588380
"no"

>> No.19588613

Why are the Tsukihime characters flanderized in Melty Blood?

Out of all the possible ways to expand on Ciel’s character, why did Nasu have to go with “lol curry”?

>> No.19588634

>>19588613
Melty in general isn't that serious, mostly it should be taken as fanservice.

>> No.19588637
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>>19588404
"yes"

>> No.19588643

>>19588637
No.
End of.

>> No.19588654
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>>19588643
Yes.
Rebirth of.

>> No.19588698

>>19588380
The doujins are alright, everything else not so much.

>> No.19588791

>>19588654
As >>19588698 said.
Besides, your basically praising Lovecraft here, nothing to do with GO or Nasu.

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>>19588791
Lovecraft is mere inspiration for what GO hath created.

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Motherfucking Vanagandr, how was she incompetent enough to lose?

>> No.19588882

>>19588613
>Out of all the possible ways to expand on Ciel’s character, why did Nasu have to go with “lol curry”?
Because it's all that Ciel deserved.

>> No.19588899

>>19588854
Rin always has to be wanked by Nasu no matter what work she's in.

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>>19586749
len > *

>> No.19589364

>>19589338
Warcueid shouldn't be this hot, or cute at all...

>> No.19589597

>>19588613
Didn't the curry thing start with Kagetsu Tohya

>> No.19589626

fuck I'd kill for some curry right now

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>>19589626
Call up Shiki to check if he'll take you on a date to the restaurant!

>> No.19589692

>>19589597
No, it started in Ciel's route, it became a thing that stuck when Shiki got possessed by Roa and Ciel only bought curry for him to eat.

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19590432

What was your first impression of Type Moon's first work Tsukihime? What are your opinions on the characters and story?

>> No.19590481

>>19590432
I like it, it was a nice read. I really like the background style. I feel that they are very underrated, the first time I saw the Tohno Mansion at night I got chills. The only background in Fate that gives me similar chills is Shirou's room during HF where he's losing it from Archer's arm which has a very similar color style.

>> No.19590483

>>19590432
Not sure if I have a first impression since I've not played it. My opinion is that Len is best girl and that Nrvsqr or whatever it is has a weird ass name.

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>>19590432
I remember wishing Arihiko had more screen time. I like most of the routes but I wish they differed more, especially near side; the Ciel route is way too recycled.

>> No.19590771

>>19590432
hooked me right from the beginning, right when the crow shows up and I finished everything in one sitting

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>>19590771
Wow anon, I'd completely forgotten about it but yeah, this crow made me shit my pants the first time it showed up.
Tsukihime has the dark thriller aspect slowly creeping in as soon as you get out of Aoko's flashbacks, and by the time Shiki killed Arc I was completely into it.

>> No.19590902

>>19590771
How is that possible? Wouldn't that take over 24 hours?

>> No.19590968

>>19590902
I was a NEET

>> No.19590996

>>19590968
Well it wasn't that I was questioning how you spend your time, more just playing the whole game without sleeping.

>> No.19591181

>>19590996
I was unfucking my sleep schedule by not sleeping.

>> No.19591269

>>19591181
Sounds like you've been staying up too late patrolling the streets and meeting weird girls in the park.

>> No.19591728

>>19586749
kohaku>arcueid>len>ciel>akiha>hisui>satsuki

>> No.19591814

>>19587735
>Her back story is really cool though.

Ciel was cool as hell, with Ciel running up the wall and attacking from the fucking CEILING and Shiki can’t help but be honest and think of it as “charmingly beautiful”. Shiki and Ciel are literally like a married couple from the very start of the VN.

The umbrella scene where Ciel finds Shiki in the rain and he has nowhere to go, so she takes him to her apartment and help him get back to his regular self. That scene is also triggered by having Shiki face reality instead of denying that it happened and having him believe that it was just a dream. It’s actually very meaningful, but people tend to brush it off. Shiki decides that their time together is still valuable to him, even if it was a lie.

When Shiki threatened Ciel with rape and she glares at him, then proceeds to sarcastically reply to him. Then she fucking helps his useless ass to battle Roa.

Ciel was a secretive mask-upon-mask character and becomes unpredictable because of how often she switches between them even though Ciel acts completely independent from Shiki and the rest of Tsukihime's plot.

>> No.19591944 [DELETED] 

>>19588613
melty blood simply is just comfy and fun and doesn't takes itself too seriously.
>>19590432
probably one of the coolest japanese work of fiction I've experienced.It hooked me so much with it's athmosphere, characters and world.I can only remember how I saw the manga cover after watching fate stay night (don't shit on me it was early 2017 and my first tm work was canaan) and thinking like "people shit on the anime for no reason, but the manga looks cool too, I guess".Don't ask me why but I read the manga and the visual novel at the same time.I still love it, even with it's smaller flaws.

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>>19588613
melty blood simply is just comfy and fun and doesn't takes itself too seriously.
>>19590432
probably one of the coolest japanese work of fiction I've experienced.It hooked me so much with it's athmosphere, characters and world.I can only remember how I saw the manga cover after watching fate stay night (don't shit on me it was early 2017 and my first tm work was canaan) and thinking like "people shit on the anime for no reason, but the manga looks cool too, I guess".Don't ask me why but I read the manga and the visual novel at the same time.I still love it, even with it's smaller flaws.

>> No.19592183

https://www.4gamer.net/games/429/G042922/20180805012/

What the fuck is this? Another mobage?

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>>19592183
Looks like it's a chinese browser game

>> No.19593507

>>19591814
>Ciel was a secretive mask-upon-mask character and becomes unpredictable because of how often she switches between them
Now if only she had a personality.

>> No.19593596

>>19592183
soon everything will be a mobage / browser game

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>>19591814
Well, I mean, of course.

I sometimes wonder if the Ciel haters aren't secondaries or even tertiaries. It's like they didn't read the VN and instead just watched the anime or read the manga or something.

In the VN, Ciel is consistently the only character that is shown to be competent, assured, and benign. She is consistently the only character Shiki can trust. She is, consistently, the only character that knows what she's doing, and is willing to help Shiki. When Shiki is babbling around like the retard he so often is in the VN, Ciel is always here to reassure him, help him get back on his feet, and is just a great human bean in general.

>> No.19594407

>>19594212
She is consistently extremely boring and a bitch.

>> No.19594472

>>19594212
>I sometimes wonder if the Ciel haters aren't secondaries or even tertiaries
I have a feeling that I've read this exact same line with a different name.

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It's way too hot.

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>> No.19595792

>>19595774
Lancer artoria walking around with her tits out because it's too hot.

#justchaldeathings

>> No.19595986

>>19595789
Very cute

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19596273

How would you rank the Kara no Kyoukai chapters and movies?

>> No.19596307

>>19596273
5 > 7 > 2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Mirai Fukuin > 6

For the novels it's the same but 6 ahead of MF, since it's at least somewhat interesting compared to the movie version.

>> No.19596309

>>19596273
5 > 7 > 3 = 2 > 4 > 1 > Mirai Fukuin > Remix > shit > 6.

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What was the verdict on Chapter 8?

>> No.19596347

>>19596273
>3&6 cause fanservice > the rest
That is how much I care.

>> No.19596355

>>19596309
The LN chapters are about the same for me with the extra story Nasu wrote somewhere higher than Mirai Fukuin.

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Lovely.

>> No.19596632

Give me the run down on what REALLY went wrong with Type Moon. Why is everyone so incredibly jaded and critical of literally every single thing he writes now?

>> No.19596663

>>19596632
Repetition breeds contempt. TM has been incredibly repetitive in the past 5-6 years especially. There's a lot more to it than that, but I think that's what it essentially boils down to. People want something new.

>> No.19596754

>>19596632
Type-Moon has not released anything by themselves as a company since Mahoyo, every single project since has been a joint with either Aniplex, Sony, Kadokawa or Marvelous. Not that's anything bad, I enjoyed CCC and a few of the manga out there like Prisma and LNs like Strange Fake but I really want something new like when Nasu made Tsuki no Sango it doesn't even need to be a part of an existing IP. It's not helping that with GO, TM can just shit out low effort content and make bank so they don't have any incentive to make anything new and if it is something new it's usually a bad rehash of something already made like Last Encore.

>> No.19596798

>>19590432
Tsukihime isn't their first work.

>> No.19597005

>>19596798
Tsukihime is Type-Moon's first release as a doujin circle, KnK was sold under Bamboo Broom before that and Type-Moon's (as the company Notes) first commercial release was Fate/Stay Night.

>> No.19597016

I have something to confess lads:
I don't like Tsukihime at all

>> No.19597107

>>19597016
That's fine.

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>>19590432
I was really surprised by the amount of choices given for what is a small project from a small team, and the overall impressions of openendedness. I am not a virgin when it comes to VN, far from it, but it is surprising how the narrative unfurls almost in-unison with the player's choices, at least at the start.

Maybe it was just me, or I lucked my first playthrough somehow, but it was a weird and gripping pseudo-realism.

The story was alright. I would have liked less twists that weren't properly foreshadowed and often felt like they were just there for the shock value. Soul-link soul-twins murdered but then it was a reincarnation but then you weren't you but you-you want to kill you and is also the big bad. The fact that Tsukihime is smaller than Fate means there is less time to properly appreciate each twist. It can feel like a rollercaster at time, especially when you do Ciel's route first.

I liked Shiki in the beginning, which I felt was a somewhat refreshing character, but by the end of the first route I wanted to punch him in the face and it never stopped. I think this is less an issue with the character than an issue with the plot, which forces him to be completely stupid, to make all the bad choices, to be paranoid and useless, never express his concerns to the rightful people around him, stroll in the vampire infested city at night, and generally acts like a fucking moron. Shiki in Tsukihime is possibly the worst Nasuverse main character I have ever seen, and far worse than Shirou at his worst.

Arc is alright, it's more her chemistry with Shiki which is great. I didn't get Ciel until late, but when I finally understood her archetype I fell in love with her. The sister is great, though more because of a general good archetype than because she's well done. The maid's stories are the best, but then when it comes to it it is a rollercoaster of bad Shiki decisions, weird plot twists, characters being unhelpful, and retarded scenes.

Sacchin was alright tho

>> No.19597190

>>19597165
At least Shiki isn't an unbearable faggot anymore these days. It's kind of weird how drastically they changed his character around from KT onwards.

>> No.19597339

>>19596456
Very cute.

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>> No.19597761

>>19597190
>kind of weird how drastically they changed his character around from KT onwards.

Explain?

>> No.19598099

>>19596754
>so they don't have any incentive
They do have an incentive, though. It's called "appreciating your fans". You know, the people who got them where they are today. Old fans get treated like shit by Type Moon, comparatively even Persona fans are treated considerably better. You'd be hard pressed to find a company that treats the long term fans with as much contempt as Nasu/Type Moon does, and even harder pressed to find a fanbase that is so reciprocative to being treated by it. If anyone had a brain they'd have stopped buying and consuming their media years ago until they released Tsukihime R. Now, Tsukihime R is dead and never going to happen, and boycotts like the above are irrelevant because the old fans have been replaced.

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>>19598099
>Old fans get treated like shit by Type Moon,

What don't you like about Nasu/Type Moon's new FGO series? It has three arcs... just like FSN.

>> No.19598328

>>19598237
Storywise.
>in part 1 only 2 parts are legitimately good (Time Temple Solomon and Camelot), 2 are salvagable (America and London)
>EoR has the worst arc in the entire game with EoR 2, EoR 3 is passable and the rest is meh
>Lostbelt prologue is good, Lostbelt 1 is passable, Lostbelt 2 is meh
Gameplay/Featurewise.
>gameplay is garbage, has to be on 2x speed to be playable
>literally all of the events are boring grindfests
>gacha game with one of the lowest rates on the current market
>the only way you can pick a servant from the gacha is by being a hyper whale to have multiple copies of NP5 5* and to keep rolling 5*s whereas other mobage lets you pick from the gacha after x amount of rolls
Not to mention just this year.
>repeats events to fill time with no incentive for older players to complete it

>> No.19598337

>>19598328
>London
Whoops, I meant to have Babylon instead of London.

>> No.19598357

>>19598328
>>19598337
Good taste anon, matches with most of my opinions about GO trash.

>> No.19598474

>>19596798
>>19597005
>Tsukihime isn't their first work.

Secondaries?

Tsukihime marks the beginning of TYPE-MOON, then Mahoutsukai no Yoru marks the beginning of Nasu Kinoko's fictional worldview

>> No.19598512

>>19598474
I don't think the average secondary would be able to put out a reply like the second one you quoted anon.

>> No.19598644

>>19598237
What exactly is FGO? A mobile VN? I haven't been keeping up with this.

>> No.19598680

>>19598644
It's a gacha mobage.

>> No.19598764

>>19598237
Trash gameplay, story is very mediocre, rates are shit making the experience an unpleasant one, and it has taken up all of the focus (despite not getting much content, so in other words, is an excuse for us to not get anything) from other things. The money it makes could and should have been used to launch a real multiverse with multiple projects going at once, big, full scale projects in line with any other main entries.

Instead, we get cheap spin offs. If you look at the other projects they're doing, let's see how they're coping:

>Strange Fake
Delayed heavily. Being stretched out to sell more volumes, probably going to be ruined completely at some point.

>Prisma Illya
Has launched with 12 page chapters etc.

>Fragments
Drama CD has been delayed for nearly a full year by the time it eventually comes out

And that's basically it. Grand Order has made the entirety of Type Moon essentially give up on the projects they were currently running. It hasn't been redirected back into Grand Order, it's made them just stop providing content. Things that were already in delay hell are now dead in the water because of this. And they get away with it, because Grand Order lets them drip feed content slowly but continuously. By all accounts, as a game it's fine for a time waster. But it's more than that. It not only makes enough for them to hire so many people they'd get through everything they need to get through really quickly and pump out loads of actual proper content, it makes enough for them to aslo pump out side shit with it too. Instead, what it does it actively detract from everything else with Type Moon, to the point where basically everything else that isn't Grand Order is either delayed heavily or unofficially cancelled. It's quite marvelous how a game so successful can become not just the centre piece for the whole company, but actual ruin the development of everything else when it should be doing the opposite.

That's why Grand Order is terrible. Because it's killed the whole franchise. Once Grand Order is dead, is anyone going to still be around for them? Why should they? I for one am not prepared to have waited 15+ years for Tsukihime remake only for them to pretend it never existed for 5, re-announce it and then pretend it never existed again, and then, when their milking dries up, come back asking me to have faith in them. That's gone, the trust is dead. At this point, I'm just waiting for Nasu to come out and say that he's pulled the plug on Tsukihime R because it isn't "commercially viable". That's when I'll know for sure that this company is finished.

>> No.19598857

>>19598764
Based and correct.

>> No.19598888

>>19598764
>I'm just waiting for Nasu to come out and say that he's pulled the plug on Tsukihime R because it isn't "commercially viable".
That sentence hurt me more than I thought, I really hope it doesn't come down to that.

>> No.19598893
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>Modern Type Moon is goo-

>> No.19599016

>>19598893
The same people who'd claim modern TM is good are the people who'd think bottom > top there.

>> No.19599049

>>19598764
>>19598888
I'm pretty sure FGO makes enough money for all of them to retire, they won't need trust from you. Heck, if you're not Japanese and paying for the game to being with, why did they ever need your trust?

>> No.19599078

>>19598644
It has only been out for 3 years.

>> No.19599105

>>19598893
10th Anniversary is better than that, unless you are purely pushing the soul/soulless meme.
But you're wrong, MB's art has the most soul.

>> No.19599111

>>19599049
If you really think it's only the non-Japanese and pirates who stopped trusting in Type-Moon you are beyond delusional.

>> No.19599233

>>19599111
>release tsukihime
>add in a FGO code bonus
>get millions anyways
They don't need you. People would buy dozens of copies of Tsukihime and just sell it for dirt cheap once they used the codes on FGO since they don't care, and TM won't care either since they will have their money.

>> No.19599246

>>19599049
Them retiring is not really the issue at all. If they want to stop making content, then that's up to them. My point was to say, that if after Grand Order when their popularity dies down and their sales decline, if they're looking for the core fans, you know, the ones that Nasu used to say he appreciated, to be there to support them, I'm saying I'm not going to be there until they prove that they still care about making quality content.

As for not being Japanese, or not paying for the game, both of these are irrelevant to the point. I only speak for myself. That said, I can tell you for a fact that there are plenty of long-time fans of Type Moon, in Japan, who are not happy about the delays these other things have had. Not just Tsukihime and Mahoyo. Of course they would be. When you've been waiting for something for 10 years, and for years you've received nothing except a minimal indication that the projectis still not dead, and there are no attempts to communicate what is happening with it at all, then yeah, you're going to be annoyed. Literally every fanbase would be. I doubt there is a single Tsukihime fan happy with how the remake has been treated, unless they never cared for a remake in the first place.

And for me personally, I've imported a bunch of stuff from Type Moon over the years. Now if you're done with your shitty bait, kindly fuck off back to /fgog/ and let the adults talk about their frustrations with how they've been treated, or come up with a response that actually addresses some of these concerns.
>>19598888
I feel you, but I've ran out of excuses for the delay. Budget? Laughable now. Creative wall? More writers around Type Moon than ever, no excuse for a severe delay. Not wanting to disappoint the fans? Mahoyo proves otherwise, because that's in a similar position with none of the expectation comparatively. The only reason there isn't more is because it's more profitable to spend a little time writing some meme event for a mobile gacha game and have it sell itself, as opposed to spending weeks to months to even years writing something that would make a portion of those profits. And really, if that's what Type Moon is now, then I don't want to see an eventual remake that would be whored out into gacha form or some bullshit for the sake of making more money. It's the one reason I'm glad Tsukihime hasn't had an event in grand order yet, though I don;t have the faith in Nasu to claim that he wants to preserve it. I've no doubt within a year or two we'll have seen it in there, with no remake in sight.

>> No.19599262

>>19599233
Thanks for proving to me why other Japanese mobage consumers look down on FGO players. I hope Kenichi can pay back those Yakuza loans.

>> No.19599264

>>19599233
If they were going to pull that, they would have released it by now. You're heavily overestimating their ability to sell things in that way, not that many would buy a full priced VN for something they've never heard of.

>> No.19599267

>>19599262
>>19599264
I mean, isn't it a sign that Type Moon still have plenty of integrity by the fact that they haven't gone to those lengths yet?

>> No.19599280

>>19599233
Only Cygames can really get away with that, Aniplex is far too scummy to give away worthwhile shit in a code. Even UBW's BDs came with around 5 summon tickets, for the price they were selling it at no less.

>> No.19599300

>>19598893
I would agree but Zucchini's doujins made me cum buckets

>> No.19599610

>>19564228
I like this wizard Sakura who shows up sometimes. Who is she?

>> No.19599621

>>19599610
BB from Fate/Extra CCC.
A crazy OP AI on the Moon Cell.

>> No.19599639

>>19599267
Nasu's script for the Remake probably isn't even a 10th complete and I imagine he couldn't do it even if wanted to.

>> No.19599654

>>19599639
I bet it is complete but he is trying to make it as stylish as Mahoyo but this time with Takeuchi as the main artist so Hackeuchi is singlehandedly slowing everything down

>> No.19599664

>>19599654
How would Takeuchi slow things down when he would just copy-paste everything over and over? They do it for their official promotional art, they'd have no problem doing it in a mainline title. Honestly you're being too optimistic regarding the game's state, we had far more information on Mahoyo iirc before it was released and we only have a vague grasp of the Remake's content aside from the redesigns which are over 6 years old now.

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>>19599664
If it were Takeuchi, I'm guessing he knows how rusty he is and cares enough about the Tsukihime remake to recognize that his methods are totally fucked, but can't muster the willpower to practice and live up to the original. I've been there before. Remember when Saber had eyebrows?

In the meantime, Nasu has written Extra three times over, a spinoff to Extella, and now Extella 2.

>> No.19600815

>>19600761
I know I rag on Takeuchi a lot in these threads and it's probably a bit annoying, but, really, I think the biggest thing that's degraded in recent years -- aside from, y'know, the literal copypasting as opposed to the kinda-sorta sameyness -- is likely the expressions. I mean, he wasn't the *best* at expressions before, but you look at older artwork and you can see how varied and actually filled with life they can be. It's not the case for all of his artwork today, but most of it feels so fucking vapid and, pardon the meme, soulless. It's not like he was ever a fantastic artist before, but you could tell he was at least kind of trying.

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I dreamed that I was having a really fun time with Rider (Medusa) and then this faggot comes out of nowhere and says "TIME VENT" and reverts time to before I met Rider. The problem is that this time I didn't meet Rider. Then I woke up.
I feel very butthurt now.

>> No.19601075

>>19601056
Count yourself lucky. I've never had a dream about Rider before.

>> No.19601177

how long have you /tmg/ bros been fans of type moon?

>> No.19601253

>>19601177
I got into Type Moon around 2010/11 with Fate Stay/Night, moved onto Tsukihime after that and have been along with the ride since then.

>> No.19601350

>>19601177
Since 2012

>> No.19601478

>>19601177
2008. Thought that carnival phantasm was the best thing since sliced bread, never really liked the fate extra extella cccs etc. Stopped being a fan when all the characters started getting gender bent to appease the sex drive as well as wearing bikinis and thongs for no reason other than to sell more.

Medusa had a reason why she was sexy.

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>> No.19602156

>>19601177
Am I supposed to be fan of type moon? Since when?

>> No.19602186

>>19601177
2004~2006ish.

>> No.19602233

>>19601478

Off the top of my head, outside of Boudica, servants being in bikinis and thongs as part of their default attire seems to be the result of the FGO ascension system meaning servants either have to strip or have a bunch of useless stuff added to them. I've found the latter to be more of an annoyance. Lack of direction is also a possibility, supposedly the only reason Anne and Mary wear bunny suits is because their illustrator likes them and he wasn't given anything to go with.

>> No.19602289

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqwSgVu258k

>> No.19602311

>>19602289

The fujos are getting stronger...

>> No.19602365

>>19602289
Fato

Gurand Order

Servanto Summer No Festivalu

Senpai?!

>> No.19602376

>>19564228
FGO is the best thing to happen to Fate.

>> No.19602386

>>19602289
Oh, fujos finally got thrown a bone with summer male servants. Thankfully the only servant I want is free.

>> No.19602486

>>19602289
I just hope they give Medb some more lore because hers is by far the most interesting of the Grand Order originals.

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>>19598893

>> No.19602625

>>19602376
Only financially.

>> No.19602634

>>19602625
Oh, and for the purpose of self fornication.

>> No.19602854
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19602854

Do you know the source of this screenshot ?
It, for sur, isn't from the Vita version of F/HA's OP. Maybe Prisma Illya.

>> No.19602862

>>19602854
It's definitely 100% FHA Vita OP (probably the 1st), or maybe one of its PVs.

>> No.19602865

>>19602854
There are 2 HA OPs, it's probably one of the vita ones
Fuck them, the original OPs were fucking great

>> No.19603024

>>19602289
Mashu really is a Sakura clone

>> No.19603034
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19603034

Takeuchi is so good

>> No.19603121

>>19602376

In the West at least. If it hasn't convinced TM there is a receptive market, nothing will.

>> No.19603124

>>19603034
Are they the same Servant in the event or something? Why this joined art?

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>> No.19603214

>>19603124
No clue, I don't play FGO.

>> No.19603370

>>19602865
I like the 1st Vita OP, but for the 2nd not only is the song not as good, but the animation is just action spoiling the climax of FHA.
The original 2nd OP has some sick Cruel Angel's Thesis visual style, with flashing words and Kotomine's sillouette and the Hound of Culann during the chorus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIV-PvjXjSY

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>>19603370
The second HA makes me so nostalgic for some reason
It's the one thing that makes me miss old TM the most, HA will always be the peak of TM for me

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>>19603034
What the fuck
This whole image, did he draw this on the toilet?

>> No.19604777

>>19604758
What's the problem?

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>>19604777
>fetal alcohol syndrome
>rhino face, horrible profile shot with barely any distinguishing features of the nose, jaw, or mouth making it all mush together in an incomprehensible blend
>side mouth
I mean, this garbage Tsukihime CG from 20 years ago has less issues in that at least the nose, mouth, and jawline are all decently defined.

And that's just her face. Let's not get started on the vast proportional inconsistencies going on in this image, or the anatomy issues. Also, isn't Alter's long hair version supposed to be extremely fluffy -- in her sprite it's practically gargantuan in size, and yet here it's two shitty static strands, which, while large, are nowhere near as big as it is in her sprites. Haircut, maybe?

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This watermelon is an eyesore.

>> No.19604842

>>19603034
Cute Jeanne. Alter not so much.

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>>19594212
>She is consistently the only character Shiki can trust.
I agree, friend.

>> No.19605145

>>19602585
batouって何

>> No.19605150

>>19604880
>>19594212
>>19591814
Please stop replying to yourself.

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>>19605150
There are plenty of Cielfags. And we're all more powerful than you. We are legion.

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>>19605150
ciel!

>> No.19605848

>>19604880
>>19605150
>>19605607
>>19605679
Give me the run down on why the Type Moon fanbase hates based Ciel.

>> No.19605861

>>19605848
I don't hate her. At all. Just found her kind of boring and it didn't really help that I did her route right after Arcueid's, as there's quite a bit of repetition between the two routes. Weirdly enough I felt like Arcueid got more good scenes in Ciel's route than Ciel did in hers.

>> No.19605878

>>19605848
I don't hate Ciel, it's just that every other girl is better than her.

>> No.19605903

>>19605848
Ciel was a bland character who served no real purpose in other routes and was overshadowed in her own route. Unlike other characters she relies on gimmicks more than anything to be memorable because her story just didn't stick. When she did have personality it was either angry or lecturing, and often was getting in the way of other characters. For Melty she was somewhat relegated to a rival role for Arc but let's be realistic, Ciel is no match at all for Arc. And jump forward to Carnival Phantasm, she's basically a curry/teacher meme blob.
I don't waste my time hating Ciel because I don't care enough about her to hate her. But there's plenty to dislike.

>> No.19605929

>>19605903
>Unlike other characters she relies on gimmicks more than anything to be memorable because her story just didn't stick.

What gimmicks?

>> No.19605985

>>19605929
Stop for a moment and think what someone would respond if they were asked what is memorable about Ciel.
There's your answer.

>> No.19606512
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Ciel's not my favorite but her abs are the best...

>> No.19607114

>nasu literally claimed that the story he wrote for last encore tied itself up well and told people to "concetrate" regarding the dialogue
Lol, this guy is either trolling or has lost the plot and gotten full of himself. If this is the best he can do now, then he's washed up and finished. For crying out loud, Amari is an example of everything wrong when her whole fate is left to a side material drama cd. Maybe he's just trying to save face after knowing he's fucked it all up.

>> No.19607137

>>19607114
>when her whole fate is left to a side material drama cd.

why would they do that?

>> No.19607139

>>19607114
Where did he say this?

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428 Shibuya Scramble has a demo out

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>> No.19607776

Do people consider Heaven's Feel 1 better than UBW 1st cour?
I really want to love it, but there's too many little things that bug me like the Illya scenes and the Saber Alter scene. And I don't think they fully embraced the creepy factor of this part of the VN, though they did attempt to.

>> No.19608684

>>19607776
Both are trash.
Vanilla is still best.

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>> No.19609624
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19609624

Miss Blue's Aokos.

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It's 8/8.
Also TM wiki seems to be dead today.

>> No.19609792

>>19609624
Smuk boobies

>> No.19609922

They acknowledged it https://twitter.com/ufotable/status/1027159677065261056
Wish Aoko could get a ufotable anime too...

>> No.19610039

>>19607139
ANN made an article about it.

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Reminder Arc is always bra-less.

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