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DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #1975 Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:13:07 2018 No.19540419 [Reply] [Original]

This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:16:07 2018 No.19540428 森林浴

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:27:27 2018 No.19540463 second for based rtk forcers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:28:46 2018 No.19540468 File: 51 KB, 599x435, bb0f2a48.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 日常のお前は日本語を出来ない念押し

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:34:07 2018 No.19540496 How do you decide between Again/Good? I know it all just means how frequently you see a card, but I've been giving myself "again" if I can recall the card's English definition and example sentence but not how to say it in kana.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:39:14 2018 No.19540529 File: 3.42 MB, 4160x3120, IMG_20180730_153756.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am i nip yet ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:41:01 2018 No.19540539 >>19540529 Now vocaroo it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:41:34 2018 No.19540543 File: 7 KB, 71x60, apply yourself.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19540529

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:41:38 2018 No.19540544 >>19540529 http://www.geocities.jp/tomomi965/ichiran.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:43:02 2018 No.19540550 >>19540529 どこのフォントへんなフォントまざってるよ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:44:56 2018 No.19540559 File: 72 KB, 903x1280, IMG_20180730_094207_912.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is my Katakana deck. What am I doing wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:45:28 2018 No.19540564 File: 116 KB, 1152x1160, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19540550

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:51:16 2018 No.19540582 >>19540564 まったくわけのわからないことを

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:54:46 2018 No.19540591 read clock up eroge for epic nihongo win

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:57:39 2018 No.19540597 >>19540582 ダビドにはとても無理なこと

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:15:09 2018 No.19540656 File: 23 KB, 523x295, B5thNagCMAALyHa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >数日 - few days >数日後 - several days later

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:25:52 2018 No.19540692 File: 6 KB, 403x122, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I doing good for a beginner?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:27:58 2018 No.19540700 >>19540591 >clock up 1 2 3 ライダーキック

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:30:58 2018 No.19540705 >>19540692 no, uninstall anki and read more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:33:32 2018 No.19540711 >>19540705 Shouldn't I start reading once I have a more solid grasp of Kanji first? Am I just doing it all wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:37:22 2018 No.19540724 >>19540711 anki is supplementary at best, language acquisition comes from reading and listening. Read Krashen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:42:55 2018 No.19540746 We always put a link to the previous threads in the OP, but why don't we ever put a link to the next thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:53:06 2018 No.19540802 File: 17 KB, 535x259, c6789b9dd45de9bda7389d915bd490b3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19540656 makes sense

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:54:08 2018 No.19540805 >>19540711 Don't listen to him, download RTK and grind kanji until you've reached at least 1000 before you even attempt reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:55:09 2018 No.19540812 >>19540746 because ya'll lazy af and only make the thread after the last one gets archived

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:15:58 2018 No.19540861

>>19540419
Listening to an audio drama thing, I'm enjoying this but no amount of googling is helping me figure this out. What is the guy exclaiming at 10:36? I've tried every imaginable combination of searches but no dice, and I'm fucking tired of searching. I've heard it a bunch before but never seen it written, so I have no real reference for how to find it, but now I need to know.

https://youtu.be/8gUYasDKlNo?t=10m35s

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:18:02 2018 No.19540872 File: 362 KB, 1048x758, Screenshot 2018-07-30 at 04.17.01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19540692 You're not "doing good" as a beginner until you're able to read NHK EASY comfortably without extensive dictionary use. Read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:25:38 2018 No.19540892 >>19540529 >兄たり難く弟たり難し >焼け野の雉子夜の鶴 >隴を得て蜀を望む I've never heard these before. なんでそんな難しい言葉を知ってるの？

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 06:13:14 2018 No.19540957 払う - Do you pronounce the う here? The card audio sounds like a 'w' sound.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:34:32 2018 No.19540980 I missed you guys

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:35:55 2018 No.19540987 立て from your grave muppets and 踊れ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:42:06 2018 No.19541038 >>19540419 Based OP

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:49:52 2018 No.19541117 >>19540543 shit looks like his dumb ass as a little sperm waddling towards the egg with the bent retard arm and retard limp

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:03:31 2018 No.19541168 >>19540957 its just the same as 笑う dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:04:49 2018 No.19541180 I actually learned some japanese while the site was fucked, hope it never happens again what an awful experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:08:00 2018 No.19541216 whatd you learn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:09:58 2018 No.19541242 File: 75 KB, 324x295, 1531882404719.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19541180 Cool, I read porn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:18:36 2018 No.19541317 Anki isn't reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:20:26 2018 No.19541333 >>19541168 Thanks man, it's sometimes confusing when the kana doesn't match the card pronunciation audio. I encountered this today too: 次, the kana reads つぎ, but the pronunciation is definitely saying つに.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:23:37 2018 No.19541363

>>19541333
its soft g sound

dont worry about it for right now because hard g is functionally the same thing and its a thing even japanese people dont give a shit about

so just think of it as making the g sound with a congested nose or something but ぎ is ぎ no matter how someone says it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:24:45 2018 No.19541377 >>19541333 Sound like an excellent deck. You should definitely keep studying with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:26:03 2018 No.19541391 >>19540496 You should not be attempting to recall the example sentence, just the meaning and reading. Likewise, you should not be attempting to recall what the meaning literally says in English text, but rather what it means.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:26:19 2018 No.19541396 >>19540559 >What am I doing wrong? Using Anki to learn a fucking syllabary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:26:41 2018 No.19541402 >>19540656 数日 means "a few days" or "some number of days", not "a small number of days"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:30:49 2018 No.19541448 File: 326 KB, 1080x2160, Screenshot_2018-07-30-22-28-40-688_com.tangorin.app.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >chink variants How do I fix this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:34:09 2018 No.19541476 >>19541448 lang="ja"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:34:49 2018 No.19541483 Is Fate/Stay Night easier to read in Japanese than Dies Irae?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:35:37 2018 No.19541493 >>19541483 You need to know German to read Dies Irae.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:36:06 2018 No.19541498 theyre about the same

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:37:46 2018 No.19541517 >>19541483 They're about the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:38:12 2018 No.19541521 >>19540419 Weeb faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:38:26 2018 No.19541526 How much Japanese until I can read KKK?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:38:29 2018 No.19541527 >>19540419 weeb fagot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:39:15 2018 No.19541537 >>19541476 I don't think that's how you change the default CJK font system-wise on an android phone, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:39:23 2018 No.19541539 I'm almost finished core6k and still watch anime with subs, is this retarded? I read in Japanese though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:40:18 2018 No.19541547 >>19541493 Jap can't even learn English

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:40:53 2018 No.19541552

>>19541539
yea if you already read why are you watching anime just to read more. turn off those subtitles and get some listening practice.

be warned though that your listening ability is probably already permanently fucked since you didn't do active listening every day after reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:41:19 2018 No.19541556 >>19541547 Japs*

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:42:39 2018 No.19541578

>>19541552
I didn't do any kind of regular active listening ever and it didn't fuck me up. But for some reason my listening comprehension never had much trouble catching up to my reading just from listening to music and watching some new random five minute youtube video once a week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:44:11 2018 No.19541592 File: 145 KB, 1280x720, tyu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] look at this shit

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:45:16 2018 No.19541602

>>19541578
you can understand what they're saying because you have an approximation of what they're saying based on vocab acquired through reading. that approximation is subvocalization, but you're not hearing the subtle nuances of the speech, particularly the pitch accent.

it would take you a FUCK ton of work to be able to acquire a decent accent because of this. you fucked yourself. but if you don't care about pitch accent then it's not really a problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:46:21 2018 No.19541612 >>19541602 That's not what your post was about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:47:32 2018 No.19541625 >>19541612 yes it is. you made an assumption because of a connotation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:48:02 2018 No.19541628 >>19541625 No, I didn't. Your post was about listening ability, not accent production. Fuck off, dumb mattdrone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:49:25 2018 No.19541647 >>19541628 accent acquisition is dependent on listening ability. you made a dumb assumption. but it's not a big deal. now you know what i mean and we can move on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:49:27 2018 No.19541648 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu_SPQLRACw

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:49:39 2018 No.19541651

>>19541647
>I'm almost finished core6k and still watch anime with subs, is this retarded? I read in Japanese though.
>be warned though that your listening ability is probably already permanently fucked since you didn't do active listening every day after reading.
>I didn't do any kind of regular active listening ever and it didn't fuck me up.
Hmm I wonder what your first post could have been about. Maybe it was about listening ability like it said? Nooo, no way, it was about something completely unrelated that you didn't even hint at at all. Fuck off, dumb mattdrone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:50:41 2018 No.19541659 File: 31 KB, 1166x142, steve kaufman RTK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19541648

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:50:53 2018 No.19541662 >>19541647 you're the one making dumb assumptions here, please stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:51:54 2018 No.19541671 >>19541651 >Maybe it was about listening ability like it said? yes it was. your listening ability is permanently fucked and now it will be extremely difficult to acquire a good accent. what's the confusion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:52:22 2018 No.19541678 >>19541671 You're making assumptions that are not valid, just because someone told you so. You're also a beginner. Dumb mattdrone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:52:43 2018 No.19541684 File: 943 KB, 796x593, z.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I fucking give up. Half of this VN is written in chinese.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:53:39 2018 No.19541691

it is true that correctly generating pitch accent is dependent on having good enough understanding of spoken japanese prosody that you happen to be able to identify pitch accent errors

but being able to identify pitch accent errors is not a skill that you need good listening comprehension to acquire, nor is it something that you can get permanently fucked over by doing the wrong thing at first (unless you force output above your level for a long time, but that's an issue for another day)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:54:16 2018 No.19541697 >>19541678 dang now you finally changed the topic after realizing your error. was that so hard? no reason to fight over something so trivial, especially after i clarified. right? and i respect your opinion but less so than matt's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:54:54 2018 No.19541706 >>19541697 Are you that dumbass that keeps announcing that he wins arguments after everyone in the thread laughs at him because he's so stupid and stubborn? Because that would explain everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:55:25 2018 No.19541709 >>19541697 he didn't fuck off dumb mattdrone

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:55:39 2018 No.19541713 >>19541706 no. i'm new here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:56:13 2018 No.19541718 >>19541713 That, also, explains everything. Lurk more before posting. Especially before getting into arguments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:56:59 2018 No.19541726 >>19541718 it's fine to start arguments when you're new if someone does something really stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:57:26 2018 No.19541732 >>19541726 You're the one being stupid here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:57:56 2018 No.19541736 >>19541726 it is literally never fine to start arguments and it's is the opposite of fine to start arguments if you're new in anon's words: fuck off dumb mattdrone

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:59:20 2018 No.19541756 >>19541736 well technically i was just answering his dumb question and then he argued with me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:59:30 2018 No.19541759 hey anki drones what does it say on the socks of the guy in the red shirt in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJvkUlpIVw

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:00:19 2018 No.19541771

>>19541756
it wasn't even the same person

someone who struggles to watch anime would not turn around in the next post and claim that they don't have problems with listening comprehension

this is part of why you must not start arguments when you're new

空気を読め

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:00:51 2018 No.19541772 >>19541771 oh then it's the other person who started the argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:00:52 2018 No.19541773 >>19541756 Did you seriously think I was the person who asked the question? Dumb mattdrone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:01:08 2018 No.19541774 i think anyone is allowed to come and just tear shit up personally start a fight

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:01:24 2018 No.19541779 >>19541772 no their post wasn't actually argumentative at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:01:48 2018 No.19541784 go watch heavy object without subs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:02:14 2018 No.19541788 >>19541784 Already did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:02:56 2018 No.19541795 sorry i only watch good anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:04:00 2018 No.19541806 >>19541774 yea but i didn't even really do much except give some great advice. now people are mad and getting down in the weeds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:04:42 2018 No.19541813 >>19541806 beginners are forbidden from giving advice, in part because when experienced people elaborate on their advice the beginner gets pissed and thinks they're getting argued with

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:06:05 2018 No.19541825 >>19541813 arguments are welcome since it's important to challenge perspectives. however i agree with you in that beginners should think twice before commenting on something they don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:06:31 2018 No.19541829 its a dog eat dog world out there dude those ty kim technical institute grads gotta jock for position in the djt namean werd

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:06:56 2018 No.19541832 >>19541825 arguments among learned people are fine arguments that involve people who don't know what they're talking about are always bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:07:08 2018 No.19541834 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cXiEfTaRZs Have you practiced your writing today?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:08:39 2018 No.19541845 >>19541832 agreed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:16:42 2018 No.19541950 >>19540591 チンカス

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:17:54 2018 No.19541962 https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/932ggf/dont_cheat_your_way_to_highlevel_listening/ Is this true?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:24:34 2018 No.19542026 >>19541962 >reddit Take a wild guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:50:19 2018 No.19542251 >>19541962 i aint reading shit that long written by some nobody on reddit bottom line if you wanna learn nihongo you gotta do everything with it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:00:20 2018 No.19542339 what's the difference/nuance between 真似る and 真似する if you start pasting a link to weblio or something preemptively delete your own post, it didn't help

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:02:26 2018 No.19542361 >>19542339 ま・ねる [0] 【真似る】（動ナ下一）[文]ナ下二ま・ぬ行動・様子などが他の人や物と同じになるようにする。模倣する。まねをする。「話し方を―・ねる」「文体を―・ねてかく」まね [0] 【真似】（名）スル（１）まねること。また，形だけ似せること。模倣。「大人の―をする」「泣く―をする」「―するだけでは進歩しない」（２）ふるまい。行動。「おかしな―をするな」「ふざけた―はやめろ」

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:03:49 2018 No.19542370 >>19542339 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqgNHa6X4E

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:04:56 2018 No.19542378
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A question for fellow ESL, are you guys learning with resources in your native language or are you using english resources? I'm honestly on the fence on what to use, on one hand there isn't a lot of stuff to study japanese in my native language, but I feel like I don't know english enough to study something like another language.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:06:12 2018 No.19542394 >>19542378 RTK worked much better after translating the keywords to my native language

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:06:17 2018 No.19542395 >>19542378 you dont need a lot of stuff you just need the right stuff so if i were a betting man id say your native language is the way to go

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:09:30 2018 No.19542429 >>19542394 Oh, that might just work. >>19542395 True, but I don't know if the stuff that it's in my native language is the right stuff. Still, digging around might be worth it. Thank you for the advice anons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:14:38 2018 No.19542477 >>19542339 Focus on shit that actually matters and not minute differences between synonyms you have no hope of using properly anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:17:42 2018 No.19542507 >>19542378 I used English resources, but I know English. I also switched to monolingual resources as soon as I could.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:19:42 2018 No.19542521 >>19542477 epic post bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:21:52 2018 No.19542540 but all i know is flashcards so all i can do is point out the differences in things i find on them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:24:32 2018 No.19542559 >>19542521 Are you able to communicate with anything other than stale memes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:27:39 2018 No.19542584 >>19542559 for what its worth this post sucks and is useless to everyone >>19542477

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:30:19 2018 No.19542609 >>19542584 That post is the truth that beginners who waste time trying to learn the nuance of words from a dictionary or 4chan need to hear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:31:29 2018 No.19542617 >>19542609 its the truth but it doesnt help them identify what matters so you might as well have not posted

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:33:14 2018 No.19542627 >>19542609 >hey i'm curious about this little thing >sorry kid it won't make you fluent tough luck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:50:02 2018 No.19542726 >>19542378 How and when did you learn English?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:11:39 2018 No.19542875 >>19542378 You should learn once you're more comfortable with english than your first language since there's lots of english loanwords japs use. Will make your life a lot easier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:25:57 2018 No.19542951 >>19542875 Sounds like a waste of time, considering they use most of the loanwords incorrectly anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:27:42 2018 No.19542961 >>19542951 maybe its the westerners that dont use them right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:30:11 2018 No.19542978 Look, DJT! I found a really nice looking kanji: 鬮 It means raffle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:31:30 2018 No.19542983 thats nice throws it in the bin with all the other kanji while looking disinterested

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:32:52 2018 No.19542992 >>19542961 they can't steal our words and then say we use them wrong. that's just not how it works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:33:02 2018 No.19542993 >memorize Hiragana >now I have to memorize all the exact same noises with different symbols どうして？

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:34:58 2018 No.19543007 >>19542992 shouldnt have gotten cucked outta your language idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:35:20 2018 No.19543009 File: 9 KB, 202x196, 153243254632.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19542978 Which kanji reminds you of yourself? For me its this one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:37:16 2018 No.19543021 >>19542993 I DON'T KNOW MAN, MAYBE THEY USE THEM FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO BUT I'M NOT SURE.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:38:00 2018 No.19543027 >>19543007 i bet your one of those thievin nips ain't ya

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:38:04 2018 No.19543030 >>19541834 。.苦。.平。惡意耳目艮女身舌浄染子 shit meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:38:40 2018 No.19543031 vast majority of our uppercase letters look very similar to if not identical to the lowercase letters so get the fuck out of here retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:39:33 2018 No.19543038 >>19543031 thats why i dont use redundant things like uppercase

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:41:31 2018 No.19543053 >>19541592 i would love to just stick my face in between those and brrrrrrrrrr

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:42:09 2018 No.19543056 >>19543027 i fly by night wearing my shinobi gi and kyahan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:43:48 2018 No.19543071 >>19543031 No they dont

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:44:56 2018 No.19543081 File: 258 KB, 1200x801, 1408633565570.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >LOWERCASE WHAT IS THAT?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:44:59 2018 No.19543083 File: 357 KB, 2069x969, hentai chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19540419

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:45:16 2018 No.19543088 >>19543021 no need to yell

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:45:55 2018 No.19543093 >>19543071 they sure as fuck do shit for brains. the ones that look completely different like G and g are a minority

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:45:58 2018 No.19543094
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Why don't they just do everyone a favour and get rid of kanji entirely?
It's nothing but a giant waste of everyone's time and effort. Even natives can't remember how to write that shit half the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:46:00 2018 No.19543095 you know what they say about guys with big letters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:47:18 2018 No.19543103 >>19543094 i would seppuku if they did that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:47:38 2018 No.19543110 >>19543094 a native 10 year old is going to be able to write more kanji and just generally know more nihongo than you always and forever

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:47:41 2018 No.19543111 >>19543094 If you keep your language so complicated even the natives have difficulty, it keeps the dumb people and those that don't have a respect for your culture from destroying it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:48:39 2018 No.19543116 but thats the thing japanese isnt complicated thats why it doesnt even matter if you know how to read all the kanji

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:50:06 2018 No.19543130 >>19543111 >chinese characters >japanese culture Lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:50:43 2018 No.19543134 >>19543103 Same. Memorizing all of the kanji is my only achievement in life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:52:34 2018 No.19543148 >>19543134 when you die and get judged jesus is gonna look you in the eye and go achievement unlocked: your gay and then drop you into hades

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:52:48 2018 No.19543152 >>19543130 To deceive your enemies, you must first deceive yourself. Japanese are just island Chinese people anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:53:08 2018 No.19543157 >>19543009 Laughing behind somebody's back?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:53:34 2018 No.19543162 >>19543130 that's the only extant chinese culture there is

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:55:07 2018 No.19543174 >>19543009 僕

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:56:20 2018 No.19543183 File: 141 KB, 1280x720, 1532980580387.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19543152 chinese japanese dirty knees look at these

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:00:00 2018 No.19543203
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>>19543094
Kanji is what prevents shittons of the most cancerous, highly fucking toxic normalfags from learning Japanese. We must not let them know how simple basic nip actually is.
Shut up and learn the damn chink runes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:00:43 2018 No.19543209 File: 1.28 MB, 2400x3200, minogaw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sadly Japan wasn't much to write home about before the Middle Kingdom's culture reached their shores.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:02:11 2018 No.19543225 >>19543209 i have serious doubt that dude is lookin at her face

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:03:48 2018 No.19543239 >>19543094 Feel free to devise a better writing system.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:04:41 2018 No.19543246 >>19543209 i want to suck his toes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:05:00 2018 No.19543250 >>19543239 Hiragana with spaces.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:05:15 2018 No.19543254 >>19543094 Inb4 retards disagree with this blatant fact as if some smart chink couldn't figure out a way around homophones. Readability is a non-issue since they can add spaces and use more punctuation as necessary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:05:43 2018 No.19543257 >>19543239 hentaigana with spaces and kanji exclusively reserved for chinese loanwords

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:05:44 2018 No.19543258 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK2qgHShT4g this guy doesnt know all the kanji and he doesnt give a fuck about it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:05:57 2018 No.19543259 >>19543250 Show us: その温もりが首から広がっていくような感触と同時に、鋭い痛みが走り、ゆっくりと俺の中の熱が奪われていった。

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:06:13 2018 No.19543261 >>19543148 False. God would never send a person to hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:06:35 2018 No.19543265 >>19543094 >can't remember how to write is 21st century no need write warupro master here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:06:47 2018 No.19543267 hiragana with spaces sux because i actually have to read

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:07:14 2018 No.19543269
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>>19543157
pshh even I could get that one. allow me to explain

知 - used in 知る or "to know"
or smart

無 - used in 無い or "not existing"
倫理 - ethics/morals
non-existing morals

邪 - this one was odd to me, but jisho shows one of its "english meanings" as wicked
笑 - used in 笑う so something funny
so wicked funny

basically, that kanji is smart, has no morals, and is wicked funny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:08:47 2018 No.19543276 >>19543239 roman字

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:09:29 2018 No.19543286 >>19543269 so youre saying its intelligent nihilistic and has a wicked sense of humor just like me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:10:34 2018 No.19543293 >>19543276 no because of this >>19543111

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:10:39 2018 No.19543295 66% isnt a passing grade lil noob

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:11:02 2018 No.19543300 >>19543259 sono warm monori ga neck ka ra wide gaate ikuyou na emotion contact to same time ni, pointed i comfort pain mi ga run ri, yokuri myself no in no heat ga rob wareteiita.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:11:24 2018 No.19543302 Japanese should all just be romanju

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:14:00 2018 No.19543316 >>19543302 >>19543293

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:14:36 2018 No.19543322 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JewEcSK7Lk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:15:25 2018 No.19543326 >>19543259 そのぬくもりがくびからひろがっていくようなかんしょくとどうじに、するどいいたみがはしり、ゆっくりとおれのなかのねつがうばわれていった。 At least as fast to read as with the kanji. Would be even easier if they made the font a bit more compact to make the spaces clearer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:15:44 2018 No.19543329 but wait if you use hiragana with spaces then how can you tell the difference between words that are spelled the same and differ only in their kanji???? checkmate anti-kanji-fags

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:16:06 2018 No.19543331 >>19543326 it absolutely isnt because i actually have to read it instead of just look at it and recognize everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:18:34 2018 No.19543341 >>19543322 >ファッカー

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:19:08 2018 No.19543345 File: 978 KB, 576x362, dd.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19543331 You're a retard if you actually read English text by analysing every letter, instead of just recognising the words at a glance

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:20:20 2018 No.19543358 >>19543329 CONTEXT

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:21:21 2018 No.19543365

>>19543345
english is different because you normally do that and it normally has spaces

but the fact of the matter is if you used all hiragana yes youd get used to it someday but your eyes objectively have to cover more real estate to take in the same amount of information

now run along on your little bike with training wheels that you think is better because you dont have to use balance to ride it

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:21:26 2018 No.19543366

>>19543345
False equivalence, sentences in English are always written with the same letters but >>19543259 is what people who know/study Japanese are used to, not >>19543326. There's no reason non-natives should be able to glide through the latter as quickly as the former.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:21:37 2018 No.19543367

>>19543345
if you suppress your mental voice your reading comprension plummets. do not listen to this gif
you want to train your inner voice to read faster and faster, not to not use your inner voice at all
you will naturally plateau at the speed at which you lose the least comprehension

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:22:58 2018 No.19543381 >>19543358 there are situations where even context is not enough you would know this if you were actually studying nihongo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:23:11 2018 No.19543383 >>19543329 hurr durr how japanese tell difference between homophones???

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:23:56 2018 No.19543390

>>19543365
>someday
It's like the easiest thing in the world, you mongoloid.
>>19543366
There's no good reason to think that they'd be any slower at it if that had been what they had learned to do from the start. Or spent a few hours reading hiragana only text.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:24:59 2018 No.19543402 >>19543381 In that case spoken language would be incomprehensible too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:25:38 2018 No.19543408 File: 221 KB, 1280x1024, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19543390

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:26:27 2018 No.19543416

>>19543390
Sure but there's no need to. Also my point is that your post about English was completely irrelevant. Besides, you can encode more information into kanji than kana. There's really not much reason to change it. Only lazy learners really care.

>>19543402
There's a big difference between flowery literature and the average conversation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:28:25 2018 No.19543432 whys that noob gotta make everything retarded nihongos easy you just gotta get in it so get outta here and get in the nihongo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:30:28 2018 No.19543440 >that moment when you realize it's impossible to understand what someone means when they talk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:32:23 2018 No.19543447 >waaah mommy this is how we've always done it and doing anything different is IMPOSSIBLE The spirit of Nippon sure is strong here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:33:33 2018 No.19543453 how about adding spaces and replacing kana with romaji

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:34:59 2018 No.19543464 mlnnagenkIlmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:36:14 2018 No.19543470 >>19543453 but if they completely replace kanji and kana how will i feel special for memorizing dozens if not thousand of pointlessly unique and complex symbols?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:36:15 2018 No.19543471 File: 9 KB, 400x311, 1490049556735.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:36:51 2018 No.19543478 I said nothing about kanji

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:37:28 2018 No.19543482 A there a word with more than 3 times of the same syllable in a row? What's the highest count one you know? Mine is 電気機器

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:39:11 2018 No.19543491 Compare: >ベサニー・ヒルズと高森昭は東京に住んでいます。 >Besanī Hiruzu to Takamori Akira wa Tōkyō ni sundeimasu. Romaji just feels right.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:39:19 2018 No.19543496

>>19543093
aA dD eE gG hH lL nN qQ rR
Also our fonts all can look VERY different, with jap it's only a few that look a little different.
Look, it's only going to get worse from here, since learning kanji is 10 times worse than learning kana and there's at the very least 400 unique ones you need to know.
If you're already crying you should really just stop now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:39:55 2018 No.19543501 >>19543491 シネ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:40:09 2018 No.19543503 File: 835 KB, 1024x683, 1507364468018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19543482

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:40:53 2018 No.19543509 File: 121 KB, 568x899, bbb9fd4e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:41:44 2018 No.19543517

>>19543496
thanks for proving my point. they are a minority. most look similar if not identical.
>Also our fonts all can look VERY different
almost never an issue. you seldom encounter them
>since learning kanji
no i can do it. it's just annoying and inefficient.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:47:09 2018 No.19543552

>>19543517
>almost never an issue. you seldom encounter them
Handwriting isn't exactly something you "seldom" encounter you fucking faggot. There are almost no fonts that look like the handwriting you get taught in school, yet everyone can read that shit.
Anyway, once again, if you're feeling like this shit is annoying and inefficient before you get to kanji, then you're fucking fucked. You have no idea what you're getting yourself into, neither did I or most other people when starting. If you can't be happy with learning kana, then you'll never be happy learning kanji, and if you can't be happy learning kanji, then you can't learn them at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:48:33 2018 No.19543562 >>19543552 >then you're fucking fucked nah i'll be fine. it's just annoying and inefficient.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:49:48 2018 No.19543566 Is there a way to scan kanji from pictures? I'm reading the manga available in the guide, but it's hard to browse them when I don't know the radicals.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:51:18 2018 No.19543576

So yesterday, i started with the first Genki Integrated Elementary book and am on the greetings section. I already know hirigana and katakana, with knowledge of aboutt 10 kanji. So, I am at a standstill, how do I know when I am ready to move on to the next section of the book (next chapter). I know it sounds really stupid, but any help is appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:52:13 2018 No.19543579 >>19542726 Using the internet, mostly. So I started around 12 years ago and I'm still learning everyday

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:53:13 2018 No.19543589 >>19541363 soft g means the sound a j can make in english what you are talking about is called a velar nasal you can describe it more casually but soft g is wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:55:04 2018 No.19543601 >>19543589 yea i used the wrong term there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:56:21 2018 No.19543610 i challenge jamal to a duel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:57:13 2018 No.19543618 just kill me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:58:12 2018 No.19543623 File: 254 KB, 700x975, 1528429513150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:59:44 2018 No.19543636 well at least its not by feet

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:01:15 2018 No.19543641

>>19543566
>I'm reading the manga available in the guide
Maybe you should read the guide as well?
What you're looking for is something called "OCR", though even if you didn't know that abbreviation, you would've still easily found what you're looking for if you'd read the 9 titles of the "Useful Learning Tools" section.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:02:04 2018 No.19543647 >>19543326 the positions you put the spaces in are telling of your abilities also why did you put spaces after commas and why did you insist on half-width spaces

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:04:10 2018 No.19543663 >>19543491 missed opportunity to flip the name order

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:04:25 2018 No.19543666 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWqd56ojQYs#t=480

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:05:28 2018 No.19543678 >>19543647 he woulda did it right if he wasnt so stubborn and just played pokeman on kana mode

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:06:20 2018 No.19543684 >>19543517 over half of the kana are extremely similar between katakana and hiragana or at least were derived from the same kanji

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:09:52 2018 No.19543703 File: 18 KB, 936x36, 44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19543647 Okay, where do you see a problem? Particles should obviously written separately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:10:25 2018 No.19543708 >>19540419 I want to "rape" the intelligent, sensitive, misunderstod person who drew that picture

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:10:31 2018 No.19543711 >>19543703 No, they should be appended to what they modify. You don't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:10:36 2018 No.19543713 the spirit of early 2000s fansubbing is alive and well

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:11:27 2018 No.19543723 >>19543711 Nope. There's no good reason to think that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:12:22 2018 No.19543734 so whats the good reason not to think that lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:12:37 2018 No.19543737 Why is machine translation so shit with nipponese? You'd think there were some nerds at google who had a special interest in getting their program to work well with this particular language

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:12:43 2018 No.19543739 >>19543723 It's how they work syntactically. Almost all Japanese particles are clitics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:12:59 2018 No.19543743 >>19543666 this dude's wearing rollerskates

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:13:35 2018 No.19543751 >>19543743 rollerblades actually

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:15:09 2018 No.19543763 yeah that makes more sense

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:16:01 2018 No.19543768 do you really think a fat dude would wanna walk when he can just roll?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:18:06 2018 No.19543784 Applefags, what Jap keyboard do you use on iPhone? Asking for a friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:18:45 2018 No.19543787 but why roll when you can do something like sit or lay down?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:19:45 2018 No.19543794 fat boys got ambition too and mobility is key

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:22:31 2018 No.19543809 >>19543703 your choice of where to place spaces is self-inconsistent, ような and どうじ　に are both practically their own word why do you break compound verbs >>19543723 have you ever even heard spoken japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:24:58 2018 No.19543819 why dance around it the guy fuckin blows and its pretty standard in djt theres nothing to talk about with the kid who pedals his bike with training wheels with feet encased in velcro shoes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:26:00 2018 No.19543829 i mean the first step to learning nihongo is to admit you dont know nihongo but like this is djt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:27:09 2018 No.19543834 there's nothing wrong with not knowing nihongo if you want to learn nihongo the problem is when you want to argue about how to learn nihongo, or worse, how nihongo could be improved

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:28:02 2018 No.19543839 the guys "trolling" and i think its that one guy who used to tell people to get a job thats why i posted this at him >>19543408

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:34:59 2018 No.19543890 this could be the easiest place to troll on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:35:50 2018 No.19543900 i mean it starts from the op imagine a 2000 long thread series trolling noobs 24.7 for years

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:37:31 2018 No.19543917 zettai nihongo wakaru ranai

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:38:52 2018 No.19543925 >talking about thread derails why don't we just talk about "literary" english like yesterday folks? 日本語もう難しすぎるから

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:40:29 2018 No.19543939 the derail starts at the op and ends at the last post

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:42:40 2018 No.19543957 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZcQ4abjsxg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:42:54 2018 No.19543958 File: 51 KB, 499x500, fags.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >literary english preposterous

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:44:20 2018 No.19543967 cant believe that br is still that ass blasted that his posts look like antónio wrote them

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:44:44 2018 No.19543974

Does anybody know links to any Yomichan compatible Japanese to Japanese EPWING dictionaries? The ones in the cornucopia of resources were rejected by Yomichan because they had no index.

A Yomichan alternative that solves this more easily would also be helpful, as long as it has anki integration

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:45:22 2018 No.19543983 File: 17 KB, 244x222, press 2 make ur yumes come true.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19543974 have you tried this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:48:36 2018 No.19544017 >>19543974 Yomichan is bad for learning Japanese. You should always try to write the word out by yourself if you're not sure how it is read. That way you actually learn something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:50:56 2018 No.19544035 >>19544017 you're a beginner

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:51:59 2018 No.19544042 >>19544017 what the fuck are you on about

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:52:25 2018 No.19544044 >>19544035 >>19544042 You literally don't know Japanese.

>>	yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY Mon Jul 30 17:53:04 2018 No.19544047 theyre all trolling guys dont listen to anyone except me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:53:08 2018 No.19544048 >>19543566 >Is there a way to scan kanji from pictures Yeah just finish rtk and you will have that installed in your brain

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:53:12 2018 No.19544050 I hope you all learn Japanese.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:53:34 2018 No.19544058

>>19543974
the yomichan import tool literally lists the dictionaries it is compatible with
did you actually convert the dictionaries with the import tool before trying to import because yomichan doesn't actually work with epwings, it just has a tool that can convert certain epwings to a format it does support
just use daijirin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:53:35 2018 No.19544057 >>19544044 you don't know japanese and you're a beginner

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:54:15 2018 No.19544060 3 weeks until I finish RTK1 and start learning Japanese. Love you guys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:54:28 2018 No.19544063 File: 109 KB, 1326x702, feel the epic win.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:54:36 2018 No.19544064 >>19543974 Nevermind, reading the Yomichan FAQ the guy made a converter which makes dictionaries Yomichan compatible

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:55:08 2018 No.19544067 >>19544060 are you telling me you're too lazy to do rtk3? not gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:55:19 2018 No.19544069 >>19544048 Didn't know rtk covers all 50k+ kanji.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:56:12 2018 No.19544078 >>19544069 don't shitpost to a shitpost it makes you look dumb

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:56:43 2018 No.19544083 if only they made kanji shaped cereal for all you fuckin speds

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:56:58 2018 No.19544084

>>19544057
You can read word usually in many different ways. You should always try all the possible ways to input it your IME. If you get it right then you've learned it actually instead of just given the answer right away. But you're clearly not at a level at which you can do intelligent guesses on readings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:57:20 2018 No.19544086 >>19544084 this is not sustainable and also you're a beginner who doesn't know any japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:58:31 2018 No.19544095 someone link that fuckin sick like 3 minute webm of the anime girl just fuckin goin off and its subbed with all the usual djt laced in

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:59:14 2018 No.19544098 >>19544095 >anime >subbed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 17:59:33 2018 No.19544101 >>19544067 I was planning on celebrating finishing RTK1 and then telling you guys I'm still not gonna learn Japanese and instead do RTK3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:00:11 2018 No.19544104 >>19544098 10000 hours of it before you even think about doing rtk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:00:35 2018 No.19544110 >>19544078 He's probably not trolling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:03:00 2018 No.19544127 >>19544095 >>>/wsg/2315717

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:03:08 2018 No.19544129 ok i did it my fucken self https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1532672488746.webm

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:04:18 2018 No.19544136 >>19544058 Thanks for this. I should have read the FAQ more closely before asking, but this was a very helpful answer and I appreciate you for making it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:04:54 2018 No.19544137 >>19544127 we will also accept this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:07:08 2018 No.19544148 http://vmashup.com/3rzLGnqy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:09:10 2018 No.19544160 >>19544129 >dekinai ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:10:15 2018 No.19544168 that was certainly the low point in addition to the yami but i liked everything else so kudos to that guy its better than the dragonballz 1

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:13:14 2018 No.19544192 >>19544129 i might watch that soon sounds like a wholesome yelling anime that was probably not the best introduction to it since it sounds like a dramatic moment that i now know is coming

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:14:49 2018 No.19544207 >>19544192 yeah i even wanted to see how a chuni ln trash ani with a scene that dope was gonna pan out but i know better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:19:50 2018 No.19544236 >>19543566 You can use the picture mode on the google translate app, then put the kanji/word into an actual dictionary

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:24:00 2018 No.19544264 >>19543737 Because it is difficult to translate Japanese into English most times, you can’t expect a machine to be able to correctly translate nuances that words have into another language.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:26:23 2018 No.19544277 A machine translation might be correct, but that doesn't mean it's right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:26:27 2018 No.19544278 >>19544264 that's why translation will always be limited, but the shittiness of existing machine translation goes far beyond that problem

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:30:48 2018 No.19544303 >>19544277 It's not wrong it's just an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:33:57 2018 No.19544315 >>19544264 nuance is a meaningless buzzword

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:36:35 2018 No.19544329 >>19544315 what word would you prefer, or is your argument that perfect translation is always possible

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:45:58 2018 No.19544375 i love me 10000 hours of perfectly translated anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:55:42 2018 No.19544419 Jesus Christ what happened to these threads?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:55:57 2018 No.19544421 >>19544419 jamal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:56:41 2018 No.19544425 >>19544419 theyre all slackin on they nihongo homework help em out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:59:33 2018 No.19544444 >>19544419 It legitimately all spirals from Jamal. One or two other posts followed his example and started lowercase posting and they constantly feed into shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:01:35 2018 No.19544465 i am the alpha and omega and whatever other shit but really i just want yall to learn nihongo so fuckin get to it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:01:39 2018 No.19544466 Memes aside, even if you hate RTK.. if there's a particular kanji you're struggling to remember, ctrl+Fing it in the RTK PDF may actually help you a lot. I couldn't remember 歌 but now I'll never forget it due to the gay ass story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:02:15 2018 No.19544471 >>19544466 or you could just write it down

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:02:56 2018 No.19544477 >>19544466 Modern SONGtresses LACK talent - they just promote whoever has the two biggest CANS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:04:56 2018 No.19544497 >>19544466 most rtk stories suck and at least half of the kanji don't even have a story but mnemonics are okay if you aren't wasting time trying to create a mnemonic for every single fucking jouyou kanji without learning japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:05:00 2018 No.19544499 thats a nice story but you dont even need it i see that kanji everyday and you should too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:05:01 2018 No.19544501 >>19544477 It said something about can-can singers and I'm like oh, ok, I won't forget that now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:05:11 2018 No.19544502 >>19543576 Been there, done that. After learning 'kana, nothing can really guide you imho. You're on your own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:11:22 2018 No.19544564 Just watched laowhy86's latest video and apparently Asians don't have body odor. My fantasy about smelling Japanese girls feet and armpits is now ruined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:12:15 2018 No.19544579 >>19544564 They can still smell unclean, they just don't have "BO". It's controlled by the same gene as hard earwax, but the way. So if you see a character that needs to get their ears cleaned and also has bad BO, that's incorrect writing!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:13:12 2018 No.19544586 well if youre hairy that shit sucks a lot of stink out so actually girls when they stink they really smell like shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:14:42 2018 No.19544603 i also had a girlfriend who had ibs and when shed go a few days without being able to shit her farts would smell like fuckin death

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:15:49 2018 No.19544615 File: 43 KB, 640x426, 23827860_2025731631_202large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19544564 I don't have such problems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:24:05 2018 No.19544669 Does conjugations (especially verb related) get easier over time, or did you guys have to study that a lot specifically? Remembering those rules has been a big bottleneck for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:24:57 2018 No.19544676 >>19544669 yeah you can't get good at them through memorization, only exposure (reading/listening)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:26:11 2018 No.19544689 >>19544669 its better if you dont think about them and just let them be

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:27:46 2018 No.19544702 >70% of my language learning time is spent listening -Steve Kaufman DJT is so close to understanding language acquisition but it's not quite there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:29:12 2018 No.19544713 >>19544702 He's referring to listening to audiobooks while going about his daily life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:29:18 2018 No.19544714 >>19544702 It's because he's too old to see the text in his エロゲー and glasses aren't helping anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:29:59 2018 No.19544719 you dont need to understand language acquisition to acquire language

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:31:41 2018 No.19544734

>>19544676
>>19544689
Not him but do you mean you just kinda remember/recognize "this is negative past tense" but you never bother trying to explicitly remember the little differences between the different kinds of conjugations you apply to different verbs and adjectives? Because it would only really matter if you were trying to output early?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:32:42 2018 No.19544745 >>19544734 The entire conjugation becomes stored in your head even if it's like 15 kana long.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:33:02 2018 No.19544749 >>19544734 if you watch 10000 hours of anime youll see what i mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:37:17 2018 No.19544783 >>19544713 And? https://youtu.be/DtOvF0poReA?t=1062

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:37:57 2018 No.19544788 >>19544783 What does that video have to do with what I just posted?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:39:28 2018 No.19544801 >>19544788 It has to do with what I posted and I'm asking what your point was. Was someone under the impression his listening primarily consisted of watching translated films on his iPad?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:09:21 2018 No.19545039

Memes aside, how many hours do I have to listen until I'm able to follow the majority of some sentences? I got there in reading pretty quickly, but in listening I still only catch set phrases and a word here and there. My ability to learn from reading seemed to go way up when I'm more focused on looking up a couple of words than dissecting an entire sentence. It's hard to be patient about getting to that point in listening.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:14:58 2018 No.19545090 1万時間de los animes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:19:05 2018 No.19545120 >>19545039 >how many hours do I have to listen until I'm able to follow the majority of some sentences 1427 hours. Seriously what kind of question is that? It's based on your brain and there's no way for any of us to tell you that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:20:41 2018 No.19545132 >>19545039 You need to listen until you're able to follow the majority of sentences. How long that is is entirely up to your ability to learn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:20:52 2018 No.19545133 ichi MAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:21:17 2018 No.19545138 i can't wait to learn japanese so i can give approximations for people asking those questions instead of saying worthless garbage like "we're all different! averages don't exist! teehee!" smug fucking pricks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:21:54 2018 No.19545142 like what he says in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPC9erC5WqU ichi MAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:23:57 2018 No.19545155 >averages don't exist They don't. There is no data on the subject you are asking about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:24:48 2018 No.19545162 the average is ichi man

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:25:18 2018 No.19545166

>>19545138
Honestly, I can understand most sentences, but I still can't get an approximation because it's not a skill that you develop in isolation. It's heavily based on your vocab and grammar knowledge, so it's nearly impossible to judge on it's own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:26:43 2018 No.19545177 >>19545162 Fuck off with that meme shit. 100k hours is ~11.4 years of constant listening.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:27:12 2018 No.19545183 whoops

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:28:28 2018 No.19545190 btw 100k is pretty reasonable for like approaching fluent mastery but im talkin about ichi MAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:29:09 2018 No.19545195 >>19545120 An answer of 100 hours vs 1000 hours is valuable. Also that's not what Krashen says. >>19545166 That's reasonable.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:29:22 2018 No.19545198

>>19545155
you can use the best proxies for cognitive ability we have and then extrapolate. the majority of variance in acquisition is probably explained by learning method although the learning method you use is probably related to your cognitive ability, i.e. dipshit redditors think reading is too hard so they don't even try before getting through genki 1 and 2 and then wanikani for a year and then core6k. super smart DJTers just dive right into yotsuba

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:29:30 2018 No.19545199 underwater squad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:31:09 2018 No.19545206 File: 18 KB, 575x265, 2018-07-30 18_47_43-(= ^ᆺ^)ﾉ - kana.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there different fonts for katakana? Should I do these before or after katakana?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:32:41 2018 No.19545215 >>19545206 just learn the kanakana and read

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:32:44 2018 No.19545217 you should watch this video immediately to learn japanese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYcAyremV5o

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:33:49 2018 No.19545224 >>19545215 What if I read and can't recognize the font used in the manga?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:34:36 2018 No.19545233 >>19545224 It doesn't really vary all that much. Just learn one font and keep going.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:35:40 2018 No.19545237 >>19545224 Just feel it bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:35:53 2018 No.19545240 >>19545224 try harder prolly you could put an hour into learning stroke order of kana that aren't incredibly obvious and it might help you with connected strokes and general sloppiness, but you shouldn't waste too much time on it

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:39:07 2018 No.19545259

>>19545224
Just to give you an idea of how much time you should expect to spend, I wouldn't spend more then a week at 30 minutes a day learning hiragana or katakana. Even if you don't have it fully mastered, you should move on, because you will be exposed to hiragana and katakana so much in every other aspect of Japanese study that it will naturally reinforce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:40:04 2018 No.19545266 why arent you guys just telling him to write each 1 50 times in the fuckin notebook like you used to

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:40:28 2018 No.19545269 >>19545266 because i have never done that and no one should

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:41:12 2018 No.19545276 for kana? that shits fine and great because then its possible to waste time beyond how long it takes to do that on it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:41:41 2018 No.19545282 >>19545266 Because that won't work. What he needs is spaced repetition. He needs anki in his life!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:41:52 2018 No.19545284 >>19545266 I barely even physically write in English anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:42:13 2018 No.19545286 i mean impossible to waste time beyond that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:43:08 2018 No.19545296 >>19545266 I've been learning Hiragana for the past 4-5 days writing each one hundreds of times every day. I'm at the point where I wake up and immediately write them all in my brain, so I think I'm ready to move on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:44:13 2018 No.19545307 >>19545296 great now start workin on your ichi man hours of anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:45:55 2018 No.19545323 deki ninjas go rambo rambo rambo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:46:04 2018 No.19545325 >>19545296 Honestly, the test is to just make a chart and fill it in yourself. If you can do that, move on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:47:04 2018 No.19545334 >>19543566 >>19545224 Manga isn't reading though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:48:07 2018 No.19545338 >>19543566 Do RtK. Learn all the kanji. Then you'll just know them all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:50:35 2018 No.19545355 follow the newest and latest japanese guide 100% guaranteed to make you fluent https://nihongobyjamal.neocities.org/

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:51:39 2018 No.19545365

>>19545039
I had watched around 6500 hours of anime at the point when I had learnt enough Japanese to understand raw anime and natives speaking. Since you say you understand written Japanese it should be a lot faster for you to get good at listening

Just pulling numbers out of my ass but 1000 hours sounds reasonable

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:51:42 2018 No.19545366

>>19545138
Actually, you will just realize that there's no way to answer such questions because it varies based in an innumerable different factors that can't possibly all be accounted for, even just averaging. All you could do is tell them exactly how long it took you, which is meaningless to anyone besides you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:53:39 2018 No.19545375 >>19545366 >which is meaningless to anyone besides you. lol complete bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:54:42 2018 No.19545382 >>19545375 Its true, unless you assume he did exactly what you did to get there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:54:53 2018 No.19545384 >>19545365 you forgot a zero its ichi man 6500 though prolly feels like you can see the light at the end of the tunnel tho

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:56:28 2018 No.19545396

>>19545382
"i read every day for 2 hours and it took me a year to understand 90% of written materials. i transitioned from X material to Y material at roughly the 6 month mark."

yea, it's impossible to get any sort of idea of how fast progression will come for you. we're all so drastically different. einsteins vs ants in this thread. retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:57:52 2018 No.19545406 >>19545396 Its not so simple, as you will learn when you get there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:59:11 2018 No.19545418 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8k1eTEw4rQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:59:18 2018 No.19545422 >>19545406 yea it is. "give or take a few months. also i did X on the side which may have helped me so try that too." wow so difficult to give people reference points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:01:01 2018 No.19545433 Not all human brains are equal. You can't learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:01:20 2018 No.19545436 >>19545422 You can simply it like that, go ahead, but it is meaningless to anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:01:57 2018 No.19545439 >>19545384 I'm already over 13000 hours now so I think I know better than some shitposter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:02:37 2018 No.19545450 >>19545439 you are ready to start learning japanese if so

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:03:30 2018 No.19545456

>>19545436
i think you have to be trolling to suggest you've never gotten an idea of how long it takes to accomplish a task by asking random people how long it took them with a few details on their methods to contrast/compare. it's such an incredibly stupid proposition that you have to be trolling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:05:41 2018 No.19545469 if you dont understand 100% of this dont post here unless you have a question that is/isnt retarded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDT0Z9WGcC0

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:06:02 2018 No.19545474 >>19545422 >>19545456 Has it seriously never occurred to you that language learning might be a stochastic process?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:07:32 2018 No.19545486 >>19545474 no because a cognitive task like this couldn't possibly be "random". but i understand why you believe what you believe now so i'm satisfied.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:09:24 2018 No.19545504 >>19545486 >stochastic = random Retard detected. Go pick up a dictionary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:09:25 2018 No.19545505 >>19545456 And you have to be trolling to think that anyone else's learning ability is even comparable to yours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:10:21 2018 No.19545511 >>19545505 thanks for the complement but im not trolling >_<

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:14:22 2018 No.19545537

>>19545511
You assume I meant that in a good way. You could be a sub 110 IQ retard and take three times longer to learn basic Japanese than your peers. Of what use is that to anyone else?

It'd be the same as saying "If you're exactly like me, it will take you X amount of hours to learn Japanese." Yeah, fucking thanks, that helps a lot.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:14:44 2018 No.19545539

>>19545456
Honestly it varies drastically how you study. I have a friend who nearly aced the N1 exam after a year and half of intense study. But he's a really smart guy. I also have friends who have been studying for 4+ years and can't pass N3.

What matters is how efficiently you study, how much you study, and how consistently you study. Based on those factors, the length of time can vary drastically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:18:18 2018 No.19545566 i just picked all random answers and passed n1 banzai bow to my epic iq quotient lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:21:32 2018 No.19545590 I've read more in the past fourteen (14) minutes than the last 40 posters combined have all year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:22:27 2018 No.19545598 >>19545590 I read for over an hour today, get rekt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:22:32 2018 No.19545600 >>19545590 I'll get around to reading after RTK. Don't criticize.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:22:51 2018 No.19545603 what did you read about

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:23:25 2018 No.19545608 >>19545590 I read 15 pages of a the light novel of Slayers earlier today. Still have time to argue here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:23:27 2018 No.19545609 >>19545603 Nothing special, just all of the last 40 posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:23:53 2018 No.19545613 >>19545598 should you be telling people to get rekt when that hour was spent trying to decipher 1 chapter of yotuba

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:24:00 2018 No.19545615 >>19545325 waiting until you can write all kana from memory before moving on is the stupidest fucking thing you can do just fucking read dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:24:29 2018 No.19545622 >>19545590 I have an eroge open in one desktop and this thread up in another. Get good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:25:20 2018 No.19545625 File: 21 KB, 480x387, 2018-03-23 17.59.34.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19545590 Doing my reps and arguing with these fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:25:26 2018 No.19545628 ichi man ichi ban hei kan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:26:09 2018 No.19545636 >>19545474 what did he mean by this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:26:10 2018 No.19545637 >>19545613 You keep thinking you are better than everyone else, I'm gonna watch some gaki no tsukai

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:26:29 2018 No.19545639 >>19545625 looking into a mirrorですか爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑爆笑

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:27:25 2018 No.19545645 >>19545639 日本語でください

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:27:31 2018 No.19545648 >>19545637 good on you mate

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:27:44 2018 No.19545650 >>19545625 that's not reading you're probably even doing rtk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:28:57 2018 No.19545658 >>19545650 Hahahaha. Bitch please. I finished RtK yesterday. I'm doing the 6k deck right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:29:14 2018 No.19545660 >>19545645 ごめん後でね今repsやってる

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:32:46 2018 No.19545687 Why do some smug anons think that posting here means you don't study?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:33:46 2018 No.19545694 >>19545687 Because most people here are mount stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:34:52 2018 No.19545705 >>19545687 Because a lot of people who post here don't study.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:35:30 2018 No.19545706 File: 91 KB, 447x597, 1529949669438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] unless you build some kind of rocket craft theres no getting off mount stupid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:36:34 2018 No.19545714 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c64sQsABKcM&feature=youtu.be If you haven't seen this yet, this is magnificent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:37:13 2018 No.19545717 File: 7 KB, 220x305, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19545687 I don't study

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:38:02 2018 No.19545724 >>19545717 Nobody cares MALfag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:38:56 2018 No.19545737 I care.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:40:27 2018 No.19545744 >>19545687 because this is the thread for dekinais. try the other djt or the other japanese thread on /int/ instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:44:46 2018 No.19545763 >>19545724 Since you seem to like MAL here's a year old snapshot of my anidb account on MAL https://myanimelist.net/profile/Zoi

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:50:30 2018 No.19545792 >>19545763 Again, nobody cares MALfag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:53:49 2018 No.19545806 >>19545792 You care

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:54:29 2018 No.19545811 >>19545717 when are you going to hit 2^15 and when you do will you retire or will you go for the big 2^16

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:00:15 2018 No.19545839 >>19545811 Why would I retire from watching anime? I'm currently watching around 30 shows per season so they would really have to fuck it up on all fronts to make me stop watching anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:04:53 2018 No.19545860 I get that you need to use different particles for transitive vs intransitive verbs, but did they really need to make the verb pronunciation and spelling different also? Why not just have the particle difference?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:08:11 2018 No.19545873 >>19545860 then how would they know when 彼が食べる "he ate" or when it means "ate him"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:09:12 2018 No.19545880 >>19545873 wait that made no fucking sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:10:16 2018 No.19545883 >>19545873 彼が食べる = he eats 彼を食べた = ate him ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:11:02 2018 No.19545888 >>19545860 I don't know what the fuck any of that shit means. I just feel it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:11:27 2018 No.19545892 わたしをちんこが食べた good luck noobs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:12:13 2018 No.19545897 >>19545873 I mean like 電気がついた vs 電気を消す. Why kieru and kesu? Why not use kesu for both cases and only change the particle? Where is the logic in also changing kesu to kieru in addition to the particle change?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:12:43 2018 No.19545899 >>19545892 Isn't that "dick eats you?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:13:34 2018 No.19545903 >>19545897 Fuck, I meant 電気が消える vs 電気を消す

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:13:43 2018 No.19545905 >>19545899 Or "me" rather.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:15:41 2018 No.19545921 i know what you meant it eats everything it lays its one eye on

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:18:17 2018 No.19545940 >>19545687 I think they assume that because I never study and whip you guys into a frenzy over irrelevant shit that the people who respond to me don't study either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:18:31 2018 No.19545943 >>19545903 電気が私を消す maybe could then mean the light turns me off 電気が消す could also be the light turns x off or the light turns off if you didn't have two verbs. maybe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:20:15 2018 No.19545953 >>19545943 I guess I don't know enough for that to be a problem, yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:22:27 2018 No.19545967 >>19545953 regardless, the language could function without the distinction, things exist in languages because the language evolved that way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:23:26 2018 No.19545981 what a shocking snorts turn of events

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:28:15 2018 No.19546022 Would playing a video game in japanese for learning ruin the experience of the game? (JRPG)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:31:29 2018 No.19546044 >>19546022 to me it makes it better. it's different though, since it's a lot slower. but once you get used to that its a lot of fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:35:18 2018 No.19546081 How many NEW anki cards can you do a day?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:35:28 2018 No.19546082 >>19546022 Do 1 of the following: Pick a game that you kinda wanted to play but don't care a lot about. or Pick a game you really like but have already played through once before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:36:28 2018 No.19546089 >>19546022 depends on the game i guess but for the most part playing video games owns!! especially ones where you get to play the game in between deal with lots of text!

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:36:52 2018 No.19546094

>>19546081
As many as you want. But we can only handle so much new information to properly retain long term. So just because you can force 1000 new cards a day doesn't mean you should.

Realistically, unless you have cancer and only have 6 months to live, you really shouldn't be doing more than 20, maybe 30 new cards per day (per deck).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:38:00 2018 No.19546104 >>19546081 iti man

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:39:10 2018 No.19546115 >>19546081 In general, you should do about 10% of the number of reviews you want to do a day. During the summer, I add about 100 cards a day because I have time to do 1000 reviews, but during the semester I only add about 25 cards a day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:39:27 2018 No.19546121 >>19546022 Gotta start somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:39:39 2018 No.19546122 think about it if you do iti man flashcards a day youll be done with all of nihongo in less than a month and you can come here and really stick it to the efficiency posters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:40:13 2018 No.19546126 >>19546104 >>19546122 Boy, you only have one joke, and it's not even funny.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:40:55 2018 No.19546130

>>19546022
I've been playing Rune Factory 4 and it's been pretty good. It does slow you down a lot compared to English and RF4 doesn't feel like it has an awful lot of text to read

I'd say it depends on your reading speed and how difficult the material is to you. The slower you read the more annoying it will get when a bunch of text stops you from playing the game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:41:21 2018 No.19546132 >>19546126 its not a joke its serious djt is not a place to be joking around

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:41:48 2018 No.19546137 >>19546132 post feet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:42:21 2018 No.19546141 >>19546137 only if you post your tittys

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:44:50 2018 No.19546158 File: 39 KB, 720x644, 26b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19546044 >>19546082 >>19546089 >>19546121 >>19546130 aight thanks frens. ima play it in japanese and see what happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:47:16 2018 No.19546180 >>19546158 Just remember, the first part of anything is always the hardest. It will be hard until you get the vocab that is used often down, and then it'll get easier quick. 頑張ってよ！

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:47:27 2018 No.19546182 hes gonna get stick of not knowing japanese like immediately and just start mashing buttons lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:53:26 2018 No.19546241 >>19546141 You don't want to see my titties, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:55:19 2018 No.19546255 fuckin post yo man tittays

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:56:29 2018 No.19546262

>>19546022
jrpgs tend to be harder (and also full of downtime in terms of reading) but do what motivates you, you shouldn't worry about ruining shit or you're going to avoid practicing japanese
>>19546082
>Pick a game that you kinda wanted to play but don't care a lot about.
i don't agree with this because it's easy to lose motivation in that case
better than picking something you know you wont like though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:58:11 2018 No.19546275 just play final fantasy 8 (the good 1)

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:59:49 2018 No.19546290

>>19546262
>i don't agree with this because it's easy to lose motivation in that case
I'm thinking more as a gamer, you don't want to ruin a game you really want to play by slogging through it slowly trying to understand new kanji. Sure that might be decent for learning but you're also ruining a good game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:01:32 2018 No.19546304 >>19546081 25

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:01:39 2018 No.19546307 >he doesn't find joy in discovering new kanji Not going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:01:45 2018 No.19546308 youre a gamer huh i love gamers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:03:26 2018 No.19546317 >>19546307 I take joy in finding new kanji, but I'd rather it be in a game I want to play than a game I've been waiting years to play.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:10:06 2018 No.19546372 >yakuza 0 coming out on PC in a little over a day >it has Japanese text I hope the port isn't trash

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:10:37 2018 No.19546380 japanese game on the computer? bad news for ya lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:10:41 2018 No.19546381 >>19546307 Y'no, I used to hate kanji, but after doing RtK, I've started getting really excited whenever I find a new kanji. Like, I just ran into 饅 just now which is used in steamed buns and basically nothing else.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:11:34 2018 No.19546386

>>19546290
if you're really hyped for it you should probably just play it where you'll understand it and get through it as a normal pace, but if it's just something you think you might enjoy, you shouldn't be worried about enjoying it a bit less. besides, you can replay it with better understanding in the future.
this applies more to dialogue-heavy games or vns, since they're a great resource.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:12:23 2018 No.19546390 >>19546381 and the mnemonics make it really easy to remember new kanji too. food+mandala/manga.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:12:48 2018 No.19546395 >he needed RtK to appreciate the beauty of 漢字 Not going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:13:39 2018 No.19546401 >>19546390 Yeah, my issue has always been that I don't really understand what a mandala is. I think I might need to rename it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:16:52 2018 No.19546422 In 部屋を出た, why is the intransitive verb 出た being used with the particle を? Isn't that against the rules? Should it not be 部屋を出した? Tae Kim teaches me one thing and then does the opposite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:18:22 2018 No.19546430 >>19546422 intransitive verbs of motion, locations, etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:19:41 2018 No.19546437 >>19546430 fucking hell, why even

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:21:18 2018 No.19546449 >>19546422 next time https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/pages/dojg.html#basic%E3%82%92(2) check a real grammar guide

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:22:17 2018 No.19546458 How do I say the n word in Japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:23:38 2018 No.19546467 >>19546449 Thanks >>19546430 Actually this leaves me even more confused. Since the sentence is "I left the room", with I being implied, why is an intransitive verb being used at all? Since I am the actor, wouldn't it be 出す over 出る?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:24:58 2018 No.19546474 >>19546467 出す is for when something causes something else to go out of something 出る is for when something merely goes out of something

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:25:19 2018 No.19546476 >>19546458 ニガー

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:25:30 2018 No.19546478 >>19546474 by the way this is true of almost all pairs of intransitive-transitive verb where the stem is the same but one is a す verb and the other is an ichidan verb

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:27:12 2018 No.19546494 >>19546474 So it's not simply one has an actor and one doesn't, then.. I see

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:28:09 2018 No.19546499 >>19546494 in one the actor is causing something to go out, in the other the actor is the thing going out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:28:55 2018 No.19546505 >>19546494 Right. It's the difference between saying that I dropped the eraser and the eraser dropped. In Japanese, they use intransitive phrases like this a lot more then we do in English, so it's worth spending some time on and practicing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:30:59 2018 No.19546522 >>19546494 yes. with transitive, the actor causes the direct object to move, with intransitive, the actor is what moves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:32:23 2018 No.19546532 >>19546505 >>19546499 >>19546522 It's hard to conceptualize the differences without thinking about it for a bit, hopefully it just comes naturally later on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:33:55 2018 No.19546540 So I've finished RtK1 and am considering whether it's worth continuing on with RtK3. Alternatively, I've been considering adding kanji to my RtK deck as I run into them, and just using the same name and numbering as in RtK. Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:34:48 2018 No.19546547 >>19546540 #2 if you don't dump rtk entirely

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:40:04 2018 No.19546572 anyone ever make money with English to Japanese translation online? I used to hear about gengo, but it says they aren't looking for anymore Japanese to English translators

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:41:32 2018 No.19546582 english to japanese requires knowing japanese japanese to english doesnt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:42:03 2018 No.19546585 >>19546572 In general, you translate into your native language, not the other way. So if you're a native english speaker, you could get a job doing J->E but not J->E

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:42:28 2018 No.19546587 >>19546572 Japanese want to learn English more than Americans want to learn Japanese. Therefor, find a Japanese who is willing to pay you for tutoring. The catch is that you have to be fluent enough to explain things to him and give feedback.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:43:32 2018 No.19546598 >>19546081 10. I've tried 20 but I can't handle the reviews in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:44:11 2018 No.19546605 >>19546585 Bill Trinen would like a word with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:45:45 2018 No.19546621 >>19546605 >Bill Trinen From what I can find of him, he's the lead of Nintendo's translation division and does primarily J->E, unless I'm missing something. Also, I did say in general, not always.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:46:31 2018 No.19546623 >>19546621 Nah he always hangs with bigwig nips at Nintendo and translates English for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:46:59 2018 No.19546627 if you think youre hot shit and can translate e>j just pick any reasonably popular mainstream song and translate the lyrics then go look up a japanese persons translation and maybe i guess learn a little bit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:49:24 2018 No.19546637 >trying to E->J snap, yup

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:50:06 2018 No.19546643 >>19546627 If you know both of the languages you can literally do either way, jesus.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:50:54 2018 No.19546650 When I become fluent in Japanese, I am going to find old famous Japanese books that are public domain, translate them, self publish and sell them on Amazon. Then I will no longer be a NEET.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:52:16 2018 No.19546656 hurdur if youre bilingual you can literally translate both ways

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:52:29 2018 No.19546661 >>19546650 Japan doesn't have public domain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:52:47 2018 No.19546662 >>19546081 50. Sometimes I'll do 100.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:53:19 2018 No.19546666

>>19546650
I mean, if you are a talented writer in English, this is totally viable, but you would also need to find works that have not been translated that could be commercially successful, which is becoming a smaller pool every year. Furthermore, if you're talking old books, then you don't just need to know Japanese, but also classical Japanese which is quite difficult.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:53:20 2018 No.19546665 >>19546081 >>19545142

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:56:49 2018 No.19546686

>>19546661
I'll have to research it. I thought Aozora Bunko were public domain. I'm not releasing it in Japan, so maybe that doesn't even matter.

>>19546666
I might be a good writer. I've never written anything, so I don't know yet. It is mostly a dream, since I don't think I'll ever get that good at Japanese anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:57:03 2018 No.19546687 Why is ズボン in katakana?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:59:34 2018 No.19546704

>>19546540
I also just finished it tonight and I’m going with option 2. Will you be doing sentence cards? I’m not sure about it yet. I’ve done like 100 i+1 cards on the side during RTK but I have 95% retention on them so I’m not sure if it’s worth it. Maybe I would remember them anyway.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:59:46 2018 No.19546705

>>19546686
I would suggest practicing then, because being a good writer is a skill that you have to train, not just some inborn gift.

From having talked to a friend who is a professional translator, your ability to write in your native language well matters as much as your ability to translate, because literal translations sound pretty terrible.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:01:13 2018 No.19546715

>>19546687
>From French jupon (“petticoat, underskirt”), from French jupe (“skirt”), from old Italian jupa, from Arabic جُوبَّة (jūbba, “long garment”).

>Note that the meaning has changed from “underskirt” to “trousers/pants”, and the second consonant has changed from /p/ to /b/, possibly influenced by native Japanese onomatopoeia ずぼん (zubon), describing the action of something sliding, as when one puts on or takes off trousers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:01:17 2018 No.19546716 is it difficult to find J->E work online? it doesn't have to pay a lot for me to be satisfied. I do transcription work for one quarter of minimum wage right now, so as long as it's better than 2 dollars an hour then that's amazing for me.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:02:20 2018 No.19546721

>>19546704
Do you mean i+1 cards using the new kanji? That seems like a good idea honestly, just to solidify the reading in addition to the meaning.

Right now, I've been doing i+1 cards, but it's not anyway related to RtK, it's just whatever words I run into.

And yeah, I think I'm just going to download RtK3 and every time I find a new kanji, add a new card using his name and number.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:04:23 2018 No.19546727 >>19546721 I just meant normal sentence cards after. I'm not sure how much better they are than an extra hour of reading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:04:24 2018 No.19546729 >>19546715 So they just fucked up, that's what I thought.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:05:18 2018 No.19546740 >>19546716 it's relatively easy to find J-E work at one cent per character (which happens to be the lowest you should ever accept J-E translation work for) if you're not picky about what you're translating

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:10:21 2018 No.19546773 >>19546716 >2 dollars an hour literally you could make more from picking up plastic bottles outside

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:14:34 2018 No.19546787 Does anyone know if there's something like this but for J > J rather than E > E? That would be so cool and useful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhm1Gfz3Xkk skip to like 2 mins

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:34:18 2018 No.19546878 >>19546787 https://lyricstraining.com/ja Romaji though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:35:18 2018 No.19546881 >>19546878 Unfortunately romaji is not helpful.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:37:42 2018 No.19546892

>get off work tired as fuck
>need to decompress
>could play vidya or fap or watch TV
>instead decide to study Japanese

I've realized that studying this language has gone from difficult and stressful to fun and a nice way to decompress. Only took 6 months of RTK and mining Pokemon to get here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:38:27 2018 No.19546897 Why is there a new site? What's wrong with the old one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:38:50 2018 No.19546901 >>19546892 why not vidya/fap/tv in japanese

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:39:20 2018 No.19546904 >>19546897 The djtguide.neocities.org site is permanently unmaintained and cannot be transferred to a new owner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:40:07 2018 No.19546911 >>19543623 god i wish that were me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:42:28 2018 No.19546926 >>19546881 It is still kind of fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:47:40 2018 No.19546957 収拾収集 :/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:50:12 2018 No.19546975 >>19546957 蒐集もつかうんだよコレクションのいみだよおもったよりよくでてくるよ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:15:11 2018 No.19547116 Do you guys add sentence cards for names?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:17:30 2018 No.19547127 >>19547116 what

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:20:34 2018 No.19547144 >>19540861 Dunno if you're still curious about this, but I believe it's てやんでい.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:24:39 2018 No.19547172 Who is your にんべん?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:26:57 2018 No.19547187 File: 534 KB, 428x241, 15325342532.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19546892 same. it used to be a chore, but now its something to look forward too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:27:57 2018 No.19547192 >料理 >野菜 >理科 >情報 >報告 >事情 AAAAAGH

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:32:35 2018 No.19547212 >fee logic >plains vegetable >logic department >feelings report >report revelation >matter feelings Thanks Heisig.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:34:37 2018 No.19547219 >fee logic >cooking

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:46:17 2018 No.19547262 File: 49 KB, 900x900, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Study and stress about pitch accent your whole life >Make one unscripted video and your pitch accent is all over the place

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 01:48:36 2018 No.19547271 >pitch accent lmaoすぎ

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:04:47 2018 No.19547341
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>>19540419
>>19540034
>I think reusing for subsections is a bad idea. I didn't check the unmodified guide to see if it does it too, but basically because the resource list uses for recommended resources it's weird.
Would you mind pointing out the specific examples you are referring to. Bit of a brain fart but I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

>>19539997
>Too tired to compare the changes in detail tonight, but I'll post my thoughts in tomorrow's thread.
Looking forward to your potential input. I'll check this thread later and the next thread for response. You're also welcome to use the feedback page linked on the site in question, if you'd rather.
http://users.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g18-83684-b0

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:05:50 2018 No.19547345 >>19547262 Comfy looking beanie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:14:11 2018 No.19547391 Namasensei lived in Japan for 7 years and only knows 400 kanji. Why does anyone take that clown seriously?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:22:48 2018 No.19547429 >>19547262 First time I've heard this. What video and is it that bad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:31:57 2018 No.19547471 >>19547391 I don't think he takes himself seriously in the first place. Has he even put out anything new in the last 10 years?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:37:55 2018 No.19547493 >>19547391 because lol funny guy say bitch and do the drink

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:43:09 2018 No.19547516 Are there any kanji that you guys can just never fucking remember, no matter how many times you seem to review / encounter them? I swear my brain makes a mental block sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:02:49 2018 No.19547612 >>19547516 No because I did RTK

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:03:18 2018 No.19547615 俺は彼女が欲しいな

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:09:15 2018 No.19547633 File: 865 KB, 1365x840, 1509837473262.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19547615 You can only choose 1

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:11:33 2018 No.19547644 >>19547633 I choose (君)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:14:00 2018 No.19547655 File: 2.07 MB, 1456x848, Summer Pockets.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm getting Flyable Heart flashbacks. I don't think I can survive another water gun fight...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:17:27 2018 No.19547667 File: 2 KB, 169x51, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Talk me out of it please

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:18:48 2018 No.19547671 >>19547667 頑張れ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:21:42 2018 No.19547680 >>19547667 If that's the last straw for you to finally give up then go for it. I actually care about you and giving up will be for the best.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:24:30 2018 No.19547688 >>19547667 Anything below 100 and you might as well not even bother. Hope this helped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:26:27 2018 No.19547696 >>19547688 >>19547680 >>19547671 I- I don't think you guys understood the intention behind my post..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:34:05 2018 No.19547719 >>19547667 I did 50 new days a day for RTK.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:35:45 2018 No.19547721 どしがたいどしがたいぞあのん

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:36:51 2018 No.19547724 How to not fluke reviews?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:38:01 2018 No.19547726 Is yomichan better than rikaichan? Why is rikaichan a lot more popular?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:38:50 2018 No.19547728 >>19547667 仕方ないね頑張るぞい

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:44:15 2018 No.19547740 >>19547728 >>19547719 I said talk me out of it, not into it 馬鹿アノン

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:45:18 2018 No.19547742 File: 19 KB, 720x480, Anki Stats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19547667 Don't do it. You will regret it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:47:39 2018 No.19547751 >>19547742 苦しい分多くない？

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:01:56 2018 No.19547796 File: 198 KB, 1024x640, nhk1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19547751 苦しい分は多く。

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:22:56 2018 No.19547859 What model do you guys use for yomi-chan cards? I'm trying to set anki integration up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:26:49 2018 No.19547870 What can I do to avoid reading

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:32:14 2018 No.19547889 >>19547870 Literally anything else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:47:00 2018 No.19547934 >>19547870 You could go on DJT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:22:44 2018 No.19548015 File: 302 KB, 697x595, Screenshot 2018-07-31 at 04.22.05.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >smug IRL faces

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:59:09 2018 No.19548134 File: 623 KB, 725x800, sdfdf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19547870 add cute images to all your cards

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:36:59 2018 No.19548261 File: 196 KB, 1082x713, ｗｔｆ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RTK didn't prepare me for reading this fucked up low-res 船

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:40:09 2018 No.19548277 >>19548261 what else could it have been

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:55:55 2018 No.19548327 >>19547751 せいようのむかしのえらいひとが「かいらくとはくつうをうすめたようなもの」っていってたってにほんのえらいひとがにほんじんにいってるだれかはしらないよ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:08:22 2018 No.19548368 しゅってんさがしたらすごかったフランスFranceマルキドサドMarquis de Sade だってゆうめいかもしれない

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:14:23 2018 No.19548378 >>19548327 can anybody actually read this maybe im too tired

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:14:25 2018 No.19548379 せいかくにいうとゆうめいだけどえらいひとなのかどうかはわからないかもしれない

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:15:09 2018 No.19548381 >>19542378 ESL here but i'm not shit at English so i use English resources.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:25:18 2018 No.19548409 >>19544579 But I'm a whito piggu with hard earwax and I'm pretty sure I get body odour.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:29:42 2018 No.19548418 >>19548409 if hard earwax just means earwax buildup same here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:33:56 2018 No.19548434 why don't you 耳かき it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:35:08 2018 No.19548439 File: 151 KB, 882x864, you_should_be_able_to_solve_this__by_controversialhumour-d6b31nk_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 夏やすみなのであのん君にさんすうのしゅくだいを出します

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:35:59 2018 No.19548443 who said i don't

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:36:11 2018 No.19548444 File: 149 KB, 879x856, you_should_be_able_to_solve_this__by_controversialhumour-d6b31nk_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] さんすう　２もん目

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:36:59 2018 No.19548449 >>19548439 >implying I could solve it in english to begin with

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:37:03 2018 No.19548450 >>19548439 >>19548444 yes hello pls translate this math-kun i am good at math and bad at japanese

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:37:12 2018 No.19548453 クリスちゃん、未来に戻ってくれあたしは算数にヘタクソ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:37:57 2018 No.19548456 File: 142 KB, 878x905, you_should_be_able_to_solve_this__by_controversialhumour-d6b31nk_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] さんすう　３もん目これでおわり

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:40:04 2018 No.19548464 >>19548450 just save them and use them as motivation to learn japanese >>19548456 that's number four

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:40:53 2018 No.19548467 >>19548450 You should be able to decipher this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:41:53 2018 No.19548471 >>19548467 don't be elitist not everyone has finished rtk and started learning japanese

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:42:20 2018 No.19548475 >>19548471 joke's on you i haven't even started rtk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:43:36 2018 No.19548481 >>19548475 you don't know japanese good one right

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:44:24 2018 No.19548488 >>19548481 yea well i know it's true so it doesn't hurt as much as it would for an rtk memer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:50:46 2018 No.19548509 these basic math posts have made me realize how impossible it would be to do any sort of advanced math or science in a second language

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:52:40 2018 No.19548515 >>19548481 you don't know how uguu kawaii his hamatto damchee is so you can't say that you baka

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:57:16 2018 No.19548540 >>19548439 D >>19548456 Plant the apple seeds and feed everyone in the world.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:59:33 2018 No.19548553 >>19548509 quite the contrary there is a very limited (albeit challenging) vocabulary, once you know that you can do almost any mathematics in another language because the symbols are international

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:04:18 2018 No.19548570 >>19548553 I guess it depends on what exactly you're doing. If there are no words involved then sure, but if there are instructions that you can barely understand it just makes the rest nearly impossible since it was already hard to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:04:55 2018 No.19548575 File: 8 KB, 689x241, キャプチャ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I gonna make it? Is this score good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:12:28 2018 No.19548604 maji kuso

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:13:18 2018 No.19548606 >>19548575 It equates roughly to N3-N2 so not really

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:15:22 2018 No.19548618 >>19548606 I've only studied for less than half a year so I'm okay with N3 even I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:28:14 2018 No.19548664 What is a good thing to listen to to build listening skills? I know about 500 words but my listening skills are day 1 tier bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:30:32 2018 No.19548668 listening is not reading

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:33:23 2018 No.19548686 >>19548664 read more

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:36:01 2018 No.19548699

>>19548686
I know you're memeing but it's hard for me to keep up with vocabulary I know when its spoken. Something about not having the luxury of hearing at your own pace vs reading however slow you need to. Listening is much harder. I'll ask again, anyone have some useful resources they used to build listening skills? I know I can google it but I'd like to hear from some anons' experiences.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:39:59 2018 No.19548715 File: 25 KB, 619x208, Screenshot 2018-07-26 at 14.11.01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19548575

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:41:29 2018 No.19548724 >>19548715 oof

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:41:46 2018 No.19548728 >>19548699 i do language exchange with japanese students from my local university, both my speaking and listening has improved considerably

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:43:13 2018 No.19548736

>>19548728
I've already graduated and the Japanese program at my Uni was unfortunately not that great. Took 2 classes before deciding it wasn't worth my time. Also we had a lot of asians but no japanese, they were all korean.

I tried this video but there are a lot of words I didn't know, some people in the comments were saying this was above beginner level despite being labeled as beginner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEcye1K-MOA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:43:52 2018 No.19548741 isn't speaking for normalfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:45:44 2018 No.19548751 >>19547262 even matt kun called out a commenter for calling dogen's accent perfect, by referencing dogen's accent in the unscripted video

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:46:28 2018 No.19548756 >>19548736 i graduated years ago, didn't stop me putting posters up at my old uni in japanese looking for language exchange partners

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:47:30 2018 No.19548761 >>19548736 here they come to study short-term english courses and sometimes subjects like nursing, so target those areas

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:49:36 2018 No.19548774 >>19548699 Just listen a lot and grit your teeth at the fact you can't understand most of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:51:16 2018 No.19548779 >>19548774 The problem is there will quickly be a word I don't know, then I get caught up on figuring it out and by then I'm completely lost. Sucks ass really, I feel slow compared to most others at my level when it comes to listening comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:55:23 2018 No.19548793 >>19548715 Damn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:58:55 2018 No.19548810 >>19548699 read more and all that fixes lol you can listen more if thats more fun

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:03:11 2018 No.19548830

>>19548810
>read more and all that fixes lol
That's just wrong. Listening comprehension is far removed from reading ability. The 2 are nowhere near interchangeable as cognitive abilities. You can be extremely efficient at one and terrible at the other. My problem is I've been reading too much and not listening enough (anime doesn't count as listening, either.)

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:06:05 2018 No.19548839

>>19548774
Most of listening is ignoring half the shit that doesn't mean anything while getting the stuff that's hard to notice.

Was playing Pokeman stadium the other day and could not for some reason make out the 運び in "一方的な試合運びとなっています" until I literally found a webpage where people compiled the announcer commentary. Even now, there are still lines I can't figure out, but nobody has posted them anywhere because apparently Japanese aren't as into nostalgic childhood shit as we are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm2a8I9P2Nk

The simplest lines like one heard at about 12:54 are the hardest. バトルのステージって is what I think he's saying but I'm probably gonna come back to this game in 12 months and listen again and realize he was saying something entirely different due to new word knowledge.

Japanese really relies hard on you "just knowing" the words, as for the most part it can be near impossible to figure out things even if you know lots of roots/other things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:06:24 2018 No.19548842 >>19548830 >anime doesn't count as listening Slice of life anime without subs is definitely listening m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:08:31 2018 No.19548861 >>19548830 no it's not and you'll learn this when you're not a beginner anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:08:45 2018 No.19548864 >>19545839 but there is only two shows worth trying out (not even completing) every season

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:09:25 2018 No.19548867 >>19548664 recently i watched a jdrama called 僕のいた時間, it was good listening practice. some medical terminology which you can ignore otherwise i found it quite comprehensible without subtitles

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:11:56 2018 No.19548875 listen more to understand more audio read more to understand more text how is that complicated. >i feel so dumb compared to who? the kids telling you to read more probably have shit listening so you have the wrong impression.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:11:58 2018 No.19548878 File: 488 KB, 879x493, Screenshot 2018-06-15 at 09.46.48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19548842 Hourly reminder https://youtu.be/7hfW-bzlzmA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:14:37 2018 No.19548887 >>19548878 Reminder of what?　That IGN has a shitty Japanese channel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:14:41 2018 No.19548889 >>19548842 What's the easiest SOL you can think of? I don't watch much SOL. Keep in mind I am at the level where I only just learned the word for "doctor's office" today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:16:07 2018 No.19548897 >>19548736 I'd consider myself a beginner and the first 15 minutes were easy at least, can't be bothered to do the rest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:16:34 2018 No.19548899 >>19548889 Citrus was pretty easy if you like that sort of stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:17:40 2018 No.19548902 >>19546901 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:18:02 2018 No.19548904 >>19548899 I'm open to any anime that would help me listen, but I know the stuff I usually watch (mecha, psychological, seinen) would be impossible to start with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:19:20 2018 No.19548912 >>19548904 Precure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:20:40 2018 No.19548915 >anime >practice listening to real humans pick one

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:22:55 2018 No.19548925 File: 8 KB, 636x291, KGRD9nl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time to start watching anime I guess...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:25:56 2018 No.19548929 >>19548925 >test is end english is kill

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:28:08 2018 No.19548940 >>19548925 Hey, you did as well as NukeMarine in hopefully less time. How long have you been at it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:30:47 2018 No.19548951 >>19548940 Roughly 10 months.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:40:51 2018 No.19548992 File: 635 KB, 585x922, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:43:24 2018 No.19549004 Is it possible for a brainlet to learn japanese, given they are autistic enough to put in the time needed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:44:36 2018 No.19549013 >>19549004 yea

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:45:17 2018 No.19549016 >>19549004 You just described about half of all Japanese learners.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:45:24 2018 No.19549017 >>19541448 what's this app

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:45:30 2018 No.19549018 >>19549004 できない

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:53:13 2018 No.19549053 >>19548992 うれてるけどえはそんなにうまくないよねえがうまいほうがまんがはよみやすいとおもう

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:16:17 2018 No.19549169 >アルバイトは何時におわいますか Supposed to mean what time will you finish your part-time job. But what is おわ(います?) I can't find anything for that term.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:18:43 2018 No.19549183 >>19549169 終わるおわりおわい Just gonna guess it's a slangy version of 終わる

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:19:56 2018 No.19549189 >>19549169 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqgNHa6X4E

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:19:57 2018 No.19549190

>>19548904
Any mahou shoujo anime or cute girls SoL is likely to be very easy. If you just can't stomach moe, try something more comedy oriented like Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou.

You have to follow that other anon's advice though. Just grit your teeth and face the fact that at first you'll be struggling to understand only a small fraction of what's being said. It should improve quickly if you just keep practicing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:23:28 2018 No.19549210 >>19549183 >終わる I just fucking learned that word too. God I'm stupid sometimes. I even memorized it too because it contains winter which is the end of the year. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:24:50 2018 No.19549218 >>19549017 Tangorin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:28:35 2018 No.19549230 >>19549190 >mahou shoujo anime How easy is that little witch academia anime? I've been wanting to watch that anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:31:35 2018 No.19549238 >>19549230 Didn't watch it, and that's not a very typical mahou shoujo, if you could even call it one, so I wouldn't know.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:38:49 2018 No.19549267

>>19549238
My limited knowledge of the genre is basically just girls with magic, so who knows. However, I feel like I don't know enough to get much out of 99% of anime and would be best to just learn more vocab for now. Maybe I'll give Citrus a shot like the other anon suggested.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:41:29 2018 No.19549274 you "just learn more vocab" by listening you absolute fucking cretin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:42:26 2018 No.19549276 >>19549189 this is improper use of the laughing baby video dude whats ur issue

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:43:28 2018 No.19549280 >>19549274 Reading is infinitely more efficient for "just learning more vocab" you cocksucking brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:43:41 2018 No.19549282 >>19549274 >hear a new vocab >make anki card >study >read a new vocab >generate anki card >study Literally what is the difference?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:44:50 2018 No.19549289 >>19549183 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqgNHa6X4E

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:50:00 2018 No.19549315 >>19549282 >read (not manga) >listen (not anime) This is all you had to post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:52:54 2018 No.19549336 On the topic of listening, how do you cope with Japanese speaking so fast that they omit half the fucking sounds? It becomes a real time fill-in-the-blank at mach speed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:54:49 2018 No.19549342 whats your excuse for not understanding 100% of this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfd1Sr5o5tY#t=15

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:55:39 2018 No.19549345

>>19549282
Here's an experiment. Spend an hour listening and an hour reading materials of approximately the same vocabulary difficulty, always mining every new word you find, then compare the amount of words you got from each hour. Go ahead, I'll be waiting for you to report the results.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:56:55 2018 No.19549353 >>19549336 >how do you cope with Japanese speaking so fast that they omit half the fucking sounds I don't because that literally doesn't happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:29:50 2018 No.19549569 >>19549282 reading is more efficient for getting vocab but your listening skills will be complete ass if you rely on reading for vocab.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:35:32 2018 No.19549612

>>19549353
Except it does. They speak fast enough that their words get slurred together and its literally impossible to hear some of the sounds because they just aren't enunciated. This happens in every language. But for Japanese, some of those sounds are very important and you can't make sense of what they are saying unless you're really good at context and have decent fluency, both of which I lack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:37:11 2018 No.19549621 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=steve+kaufman+listening

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:38:17 2018 No.19549625

so let me get this straight

you dont know what words someones using because theres a billion words that sound the same but use different kanji AND now you dont know what words someone is saying because they just dont say half of every word??

thats it ive had it this language stupid and japans bullshit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:40:22 2018 No.19549639 if it's too bad to be true it's too bad to be true (except in politics and corporate politics)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:44:32 2018 No.19549668 no thats fuckin it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWiV3lPBhu8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:46:46 2018 No.19549687 that's just a bad recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiCUUDHBj9c you can barely tell what anyone here is saying either except shit like "the fuck you doin'"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:48:46 2018 No.19549702 no i wasnt makin an argument that was me bein pissed that japanese is BULL SHIT i wasnt even thinking about whether or not it was hard to understand...... was it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:49:48 2018 No.19549706 call da pohlees

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:50:48 2018 No.19549712 >>19549687 actually thats a accurate representation of me in djt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:11:24 2018 No.19549814 File: 171 KB, 850x1078, __aioi_yuuko_nichijou_drawn_by_shoumaru_gadget_box__sample-8c859fd843c8a456d88b95ac00f86b2a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ya'll dumbasses arguing about vocab or listening or whatever and here i'm just grinding RTK

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:12:19 2018 No.19549822 Tomorrow I get to learn the first kanji in 漢字 in RTK so I'm pretty excited.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:12:36 2018 No.19549824 File: 7 KB, 336x268, rawr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:15:11 2018 No.19549842 >>19549822 It means chinese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:15:34 2018 No.19549844 >>19549822 go get 'em anon, proud of you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:19:45 2018 No.19549864 >>19549842 yea he calls it sino- in the book and says it means chinese

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:20:38 2018 No.19549867 just hit my 900th kanji on my rtk-by-frequency-groups, so just one month to go until I can write the top 1000 most common kanji

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:21:08 2018 No.19549871 Finished RTK. Now what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:22:00 2018 No.19549873 >>19549871 RTK 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:22:43 2018 No.19549876 >3 kanji a day err what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:22:53 2018 No.19549878 >>19549871 10000 hours of anime

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:24:04 2018 No.19549886 >>19549871 what more could there be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:24:27 2018 No.19549889 >>19549871 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdL8i6P6rvM youre ready for the real shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:24:49 2018 No.19549893 >>19549876 it's 10 per day by the time I can write the top 1000 I'll have also learned about 200 less-frequent kanji which are included as components in that 1000

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:24:57 2018 No.19549895 >>19549873 wtf bro i just did 2200 i dont wanna kanji anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:25:52 2018 No.19549903 >>19549895 he was joking. rtk3 is probably not worth your time, you should direct your efforts toward reading and writing now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:27:11 2018 No.19549908 File: 41 KB, 374x374, 1527361305728.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19549893 but if the deck is by frequency shouldn't you be able to do the top 1000 most frequent kanji in 100 kanji since you're at 900 now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:28:13 2018 No.19549919 >>19549895 don't listen to this >>19549903 looser, reading is for shmucks kanji is the real shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:29:19 2018 No.19549924 >>19549903 I wasn't joking. I plan on doing RTK 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:29:38 2018 No.19549928 reminder if you dont do ichi man kanji cards a day youll never learn japanese in a timely manner

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:29:41 2018 No.19549930 >>19549908 I'm at about 700 + 200 now. There's not many new component kanji between now and 1000.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:30:56 2018 No.19549936 >>19549928 who's this ichi man, i'd like to know more so i can learn japanese in a timely manner

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:32:30 2018 No.19549945 >>19549936 >>19545142

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:33:52 2018 No.19549951 >>19549903 >>19549919 >>19549924 I just flipped through RTK3 and it looks like it's composed of entirely old primitves except the first 33 characters. That seems really easy. I could do 50 per day and be done really soon...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:35:07 2018 No.19549954 >>19549951 go get 'em champ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:38:23 2018 No.19549970 https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Bv3LPeXF1R

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:39:28 2018 No.19549975 File: 1.53 MB, 951x1074, 1504011219319.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TuOlZX36Yw Reminder that not even living in Japan will be enough to save you useless fucks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:40:17 2018 No.19549977 >>19549951 You should do JIS level 2 while you're at it. RTK3 selection kanji is not very good and when you get into reading it's not enough. http://kanjitisiki.com/jis2/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:42:05 2018 No.19549980 >>19549975 i literally seeked right to the part of the video that invalidates you completely almost as if it was magic like i have some kind of innate bull shit detector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TuOlZX36Yw#t=765

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:43:22 2018 No.19549987
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Any way to get yomichan generated cards to stop doing this shit? (this is actually really tame, sometimes it spits out 20 repeating definitions). Just the first 1-3 definitions will do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:43:43 2018 No.19549988 >>19549970 https://vocaroo.com/i/s0j7SvbYjapZ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:44:46 2018 No.19549992 oh shit lads heisig-sama suddenly throwing new radicals at me without explaining them yo wtf

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:44:48 2018 No.19549995 >>19549980 As if you'd be man enough to ever leave the house.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:44:49 2018 No.19549994 >>19549988 i like the end of your url

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:46:14 2018 No.19550003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_SbdafGipM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:48:07 2018 No.19550016 >>19549975 Clicking that link I hoped that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in688K_vdQ0 would load.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:50:22 2018 No.19550023 was davido kun the once living proof (rip) that evangelion was the worst thing to happen to anime ever

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:55:17 2018 No.19550038 I'd like to see proof that he an heroed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:01:32 2018 No.19550076 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPF7lit7Z00

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:02:20 2018 No.19550078 take that shit back to your shitty redditor discord we g ma in here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:05:04 2018 No.19550088 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLTxKuJ2nfE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:20:00 2018 No.19550158 File: 77 KB, 1080x2220, Screenshot_20180731-131907_AnkiDroid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know how to fix ankidroid showing Chinese characters. Example

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:22:44 2018 No.19550174 >>19550158 Dude whatever it's just a radical.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:22:52 2018 No.19550176 >>19550158 Switch your device to nippongo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:26:29 2018 No.19550195 >>19550158 add lang="ja" to the element html tag attributes when it contains japanese e.g. if you have <span class="blah" style="...">{{Kanji}}</span> then change it to <span class="blah" style="..." lang="ja">{{Kanji}}</span>

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:31:08 2018 No.19550223 >>19550158 youre gonna have to do that for each of your ichi man cards youre mandated to do each day good luck cunt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:33:14 2018 No.19550235 >i don't know how anki works, the post it's a card template. you only have to change it once

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:35:18 2018 No.19550246 every single card

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:36:20 2018 No.19550251 File: 265 KB, 1915x929, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] by the way i wanna know how anki works but i get this error every time i even try to install it from the trusted download from cnet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:43:16 2018 No.19550284 Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster here. What's the difference between は (ha) and が (ga)? Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:45:59 2018 No.19550295 >>19550284 they're drawn differently they're written differently they're pronounced differently they mean a different thing they look different and most importantly they are all inferior to the superior あ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:53:48 2018 No.19550325 >>19550284 Imagine being this noob

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:54:35 2018 No.19550330 imagine this being a sincere post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:57:16 2018 No.19550348 imagine being this ゲイ＊points to わたし*

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:58:18 2018 No.19550355 >＊* yikes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:59:10 2018 No.19550361 I'll be honest I've been on this ride for over a year and I still fuck up が　and　か

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:00:23 2018 No.19550368 >>19550361 Typo'd. I meant は and が, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:00:36 2018 No.19550371 >>19550348 >ゲイ what does it say lads? i don't know katakana

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:01:45 2018 No.19550377 do your guys suggest Heisig-sama's remembering the kana?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:02:58 2018 No.19550382 >>19550371 here ill use it in a sentence for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWqd56ojQYs#t=509

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:04:30 2018 No.19550391 >>19550377 a quick crucifixion is my friendly suggestion to you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:05:02 2018 No.19550396 >>19550377 yes. specifically げ, the mnemonic being you're fucking げ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:06:14 2018 No.19550404 >>19550377 well i did rtk after completing genki 1 and 2 and tobira and japanese from zero 1-5 or whatever and im not one to brag but lets just say i can play dragon quest with ease now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:09:38 2018 No.19550418 あなたは遅すぎるあまりにも簡単な、ケーキの片今私はあなたを見せます

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:12:44 2018 No.19550432 お上手ですね

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:17:19 2018 No.19550450 >>19550377 It is what I used to learn kana and I thought it worked well. I've recommended it many times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:17:55 2018 No.19550453 Wait is there actually a remember the kana? I was shitposting..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:20:47 2018 No.19550466 >>19550453 https://www.amazon.com/Remembering-Kana-Reading-Japanese-Syllabaries/dp/0824831640 dumb ass

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:25:04 2018 No.19550480 File: 19 KB, 44x341, w.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do I get the sentence right? little context: the queen tells 5 men to bring her some artifacts >These are just/only (ばかり) things that no-one has ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:29:19 2018 No.19550504 I've gone through 300 kanjis, however 後 is making me suffer. Why the fuck can't I remember it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:29:59 2018 No.19550508 >>19550504 are you using RTK?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:33:14 2018 No.19550535 >>19550508 Nope. Just have some kanjis coupled up in an anki deck and practice them with the help of jisho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:48:57 2018 No.19550615 >>19550453 you're not me you're a FAKE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:49:59 2018 No.19550619 >>19550535 change to RTK while you still can

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:52:35 2018 No.19550632 >>19550480 there are only things here that no one has seen

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:55:40 2018 No.19550651 >>19550619 Don't have the money to get that. Thanks either way

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:56:59 2018 No.19550658 It's a free download in the OP you dipshit retard moron. Get out of this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:57:13 2018 No.19550660 >>19550651 read the fucking sticky dude theres a pdf right there if you look for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:57:36 2018 No.19550662 File: 61 KB, 960x902, 1532823130841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19550651 >Don't have the money to get that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:16:31 2018 No.19550768 さて、イエスは総督の前に立たれた。すると総督はイエスに尋ねて言った、「あなたがユダヤ人の王であるか」。イエスは「そのとおりである」と言われた。

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:17:38 2018 No.19550777
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It’s been exactly a year since I started learning Japanese so I thought it would be worth trying to do this test for the first time.

I spent almost the entire listening part of the test facepalming hoping it would end. With the exception of one question (How many people are in your family) I understood very little and had to guess.

I felt confident with vocabulary with Kanji in particular but I struggled with the non-kanji words and Katakana.

Grammar I struggle with a lot but I felt more confident then the listening part even though I did worse.

Reading I answered a few questions and then skipped though every other questions.

If the quiz wasn’t multiple choice I probably would have scored no more than 10-15 points. At times I feel like I’m really making progress with the language but these type of tests really show how far there is to go. I think I’ll avoid taking these tests until my grammar and listening skills have improved.

Also, I was reading some of the test instructions as literal questions like ‘Fill in the _____’ and I was confused thinking why none of the answered (A,B,C,D) correlate to the questions, it took me a while to figure out it wasn’t part of the question…

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:19:42 2018 No.19550796 mosikasite reddito

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:20:35 2018 No.19550801 >>19550796 This isn't the greek thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:21:55 2018 No.19550814 File: 124 KB, 600x534, 1439158774244.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19550801

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:21:58 2018 No.19550815

>>19550777
>I spent almost the entire listening part of the test facepalming hoping it would end. With the exception of one question (How many people are in your family) I understood very little and had to guess.
The "read more" advice strikes again. It should be "read and listen more".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:23:50 2018 No.19550828 >>19550796 iie reditokarano pasta jyaarimasen kokolono hontono koe des

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:42:17 2018 No.19550939 >>19550815 read more. listen when you can

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:43:56 2018 No.19550949 >>19548715 i think nukemarine was very good why is he making guides for how to learn japanese?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:56:46 2018 No.19551019 File: 150 KB, 447x600, wani2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19550777 Nice wanikani forums copypasta

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:59:32 2018 No.19551031 wani kani girl is cuter than djt meme girl

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