Marisa's Canon Pussy!

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Marisa's Canon Pussy!

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>>19511221
Nice and thick.

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perverts!

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smelly

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>>19511221
I want to rape Marisa-chan.

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I just want to kiss her juicy calves.

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Hirasaka should be involved in more official works. I'm tired of other artists' skeletons.

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Hirasaka's interpretation is shit. Moe is also shit. The only competent guest artist is Aya.

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>>19511221
*Marisa's Wet Canon Pussy!

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I WANT TO FILL THAT PUFFY UNDERAGE VAGINA SO BAD

WHY CANT I HAVE NICE THINGS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>19513940
>underage

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>>19513943
does it look like that vagina is attached to an old hag?

besides, marisa was a child in the pc-98 games

SUMMER

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>>19513959
>does it look like that vagina is attached to an old hag?
No, she's probably forever 16 by now.
>besides, marisa was a child in the pc-98 games
Who fucking cares about PC-98?

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>>19513959
>pc-98
Using PC-98 as a good description of what's canon for Marisa in 2018? Summer is here. Not that anon but since Marisa is 14~16 then she would he legal in some places, but who knows since ZUN basically retconned everything and said that the characters age while being ageless.

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>>19513970
>age while being ageless
What? Is ZUN feeling alright?

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>Marisa's bulging puffy vulva
>while wearing a skintight, frilly swimsuit

I know what I'm beating off to tonight

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>>19513968
>>19513970
>Marisa is 14~16 then she would he legal in some places
you cant use "some places" to determine whether she is legal or not, just because you can legally fuck 14 year old prostitutes in africa doesn't mean marisa is legal

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I couldn't care less about her pussy, but I want to hug her tightly and affectionately rub my face all over those squishy thighs and calves.

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>>19514004
ZUN is Japanese. Touhou is a Japanese series. The age of consent is minium 13 in Japan but most regional laws have it to 16~18. Meaning, it wouldn't be that illegal. Stop trying to push your culture on something that isn't from it.
>>19513980
Yeah, according to ZUN Touhou is timeless. The plot will never fucking move at all and charcaters will never develop. Thanks ZUN!

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>>19514004
Go be American somewhere else.

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>>19514027
>charcaters will never develop
This is excellent, huge relief.

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>>19514004
if its off the clock its ready for the cock

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>>19514007
Same. You forgot her butt, though.

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Marisa kunny

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>>19513980
Basically the best way too describe it is that the world around them will age while they do not.

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>>19513970
>ZUN basically retconned everything and said that the characters age while being ageless
how the fuck do people have such a hard time with this holy shit no

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>>19514937
Some people actually wanted something called character development. Crazy, right?

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It's been obvious for at least a decade that the characters weren't aging. Only delusional people were claiming that characters like Reimu/Marisa were actually in their late 20s.

>>19515021
>Some people actually wanted something called character development. Crazy, right?
Why would you expect that out of Touhou of all things? It's never once focused on that kind of story-telling and the few examples of character development that people do cite are actually just due to the shift in tone starting with MoF.

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>>19515459
We're not talking about games right now. We're talking about the manga, which only exist for story.

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>>19513970
Marisa is in her (probably late) 20s. Reimu too

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>>19515459
except Reimu has breasts and both of them are distinctly taller than children

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>>19515021
Why would you expect character development from a shooting/fighting game series?

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>>19511221
Post Clownpiece's canon pussy!

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>>19515545
We are talking about the manga in this thread. Do you know what a manga is?

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>>19515469
>>19515815
Why would you read SoL manga for character development?

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>>19515815
A fruit?

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>>19515863
SoL is supposed to focus on the characters. Are you trying to say that it should be devoid of any substance whatsoever? This isn't a 4koma or gag manga. Hirasaka and ZUN said these chapters were supposed to be "important to Gensokyo" anyway. Why are you trying to defend bad, bland writing?

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>>19515885
>Hirasaka and ZUN said these chapters were supposed to be "important to Gensokyo" anyway.
Imagine being this ultra-new.
ZUN has been saying these things forever.

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>>19515962
Does that make it okay to defend the manga? No, it doesn't. You are actively criticizing it as well in that post. How hypocritical are you?

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>>19515815
>Do you know what a manga is?
In this case, supplementary material to a shooting and fighting game series. Why would they have character development in that beyond what happens in the games? Do you want them to grow old and have kids and then the games be about their kids or something? Do you want a character to be killed off then appear in the games as a ghost, or what?

>This isn't a 4koma or gag manga.
Sangetsusei is pretty close to being a gag manga.

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>>19515885
Not so fast. You don't get to claim that it's bad writing as if it were some objective fact that I have to defend or apologize for. I went into this chapter expecting cute slice of life with the fairies and I got cute slice of life with the fairies. Mission accomplished, good job ZUN and Hirasaka as far as I'm concerned.

>Hirasaka and ZUN said these chapters were supposed to be "important to Gensokyo" anyway.

As far as I know it was only Hirasaka in this tweet https://twitter.com/hirasaka8/status/1009738595962253313
Given that it's still the fairies manga, I didn't expect anything serious from this. ZUN has made statements about the PS4 ULiL release and AoCF that people took more seriously than they warranted.

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>>19515999
>Does that make it okay to defend the manga? No, it doesn't.
Why? Because you say so?
It's not ZUN's fault you're too new to understand him.

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>>19516005
Case in point, if it's supplementary material then it should be supplementary. Why make the manga at all if nothing happens in it? Nothing at all.
>>19516021
This is more of a problem with all the the Touhou manga as a whole than just the fairies. I only tuned in due to Hirasaka's comment.
>>19516035
So you are actively defending fake hype? I'm being attacked on all sides here so I'll just give up. What I am saying is not objective fact. I am just dissapointed that it was hyped up for no reason. The manga is boring.

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>>19511221
Ah I want Marisa to leglock me with those cute nice fag legs!

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>>19516039
>Why make the manga at all if nothing happens in it? Nothing at all.
It's a manga showing Gensokyo from the point of view of some of the nobody fairies you kill, that's all. It spawned a game and probably eventually another game, so it amounted to something.

It also serves to let fans see characters again, because outside of certain ones, you will literally never see them again in the games.

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God bless Hirasaka.
I wonder if dairi's gonna make this version of Marisa too.

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I have The Boner now. Oh Marisa Marisa Marisa Marisa....

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>>19511221
What's with all the closeup panels of Marisa's feet in this chapter?

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SHOW US HER BUTT!!

BANZAI

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>>19516308
>> fag legs

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ZUN is a hack writer (last good thing he wrote was Bougetsushou)
There's nothing wrong with expecting more from him, but he's continued to let me down time and time again and I'm starting to think it's foolish to expect him to write a compelling plot or at least some interesting character development.

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>>19521880
Becareful, anon. Criticizing ZUN is punishable by angry samefag replies here on the jay.

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>>19511221

It's hotter when you think it's Marisa's cute small bulge instead

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>>19514033
>I dislike good storytelling.
Touhou fans are weird.

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>>19521880
He can actually be a decent writer. The thing is, he doesn't write stories. He writes excuses to introduce new characters.

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>>19511221
Imagine being a hungry youkai and seeing this.

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>>19522632
Is there such as thing as being blue balled by food?

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>>19522644
Absolutely.

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>>19522644
When you drop something and it lands toppings side down

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>>19522632
As a youkai, is it wrong to have sex with your food?

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>>19522731
Of course not. I imagine every cute young boy gets raped first.

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>>19522728
I usually still eat it afterwards, to be perfectly honest.

>>19522731
Yes. As a Youkai, you need to decide right away if any human you catch is going to be used as food or as a sex slave. Fucking somebody before eating them is just mean, and often ruins the taste.

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>>19522745
Are those young boys allowed to climax inside the Youkai that captured them? It seems fair that they would be allowed a chance at reproduction before they are gruesomely devoured and digested.

Also, what happens to cute young girls?

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>>19515021
Not literally aging doesn't stop character development from happening; that's a completely separate thing. This is the issue I'm talking about. People are taking this whole Sazae-san time thing and exploding it to mean much more than it is. It's incredibly simple.

>>19521880
>I'm starting to think it's foolish to expect him to write a compelling plot or at least some interesting character development.
Literally why would you expect this when the series largely has never dealt in this. Also, do you understand the utility of having characters not go through big changes in arcs and mostly stay the same in an series primarily about worldbuilding that is arbitrarily long?

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>>19522978
>Also, do you understand the utility of having characters not go through big changes in arcs and mostly stay the same in an series primarily about worldbuilding that is arbitrarily long?
No, actually. If your goal is to tell good stories. Then i don't understand the utility of not allowing your characters to develop. Now, i'll admit that, like i said, ZUN doesn't actually write stories. Just excuses to introduce new characters, places, and locations. And if that is what you like, then good for you. But don't try and defend it as good storytelling.

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>>19522745
Is a youkai's idea of cute the same as a human's? If so, how ugly would a boy have to be to be uglier than a male youkai?

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>>19521856
Well, Marisa is a fag after all.

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The real funny thing is that the characters have developed a lot. The fairies were just assholes that were killed on sight by Marisa or Reimu before, but over time they've become close enough to them to interact properly, ask them for help, refer to them, or at least Marisa, by polite terms, and even be invited to their tea parties. They're basically Marisa's kids now instead of just normal fairies to be killed, and even Reimu has settled down around them. I don't think she's even killed Clownpiece even though she'd have a good reason with all the fire incidents.

The people who have problems probably just want Eternity to try to take over Gensokyo or something.

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>>19523074
Marisa is a girl.

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>>19523093
>The real funny thing is that the characters have developed a lot.
They have grown somewhat closer. But not because the characters developed or changed. But because anybody that annoys Reimu and Marisa long enough will eventually become their "Friend".

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>>19523097
A fag girl.

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>>19523105
Girls can't be fags.

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>>19523093
>The people who have problems probably just want Eternity to try to take over Gensokyo or something.
Yeah, it's always the Grimsokyo faggots. You'd think at this point they'd stop bothering with Touhou altogether.

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>>19521880
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>>19523016
This just seems too me like people not really understanding the "style" of Touhou. ZUN doesnt go deeper with his characters, he goes wider. Basically rather than going more in depth and expanding on stuff that exists he tends too introduce new things into the mix. While growing and learning is a part of character development (something that many Touhou characters have gone through) its also not the only thing. Plus there seems to be this belief here that character development is the ONLY thing that matters when it comes too good writing. In terms of how ZUN has crafted his world and the ways he chooses too expand on it are in fact very good. His general character creation is also good. Just because characters dont go through these massive arcs doesnt mean the writing bad. Touhou is a unique beast of its own that isnt comparable too anything else, and at the end of the day its still just a doujin series. ZUN approaches things in a very laid back and non traditional way from what were used too, and that is one of the many things that makes the series unique.

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>>19523016
character development =/= storytelling

Get that through your thick head.

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>>19523495
This is a good post. Gensokyo is the real main character of touhou.

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>>19511221
Her legs look too short

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>>19523976
Deep

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>>19523976
That actually makes a lot of sense.

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>>19523016
>If your goal is to tell good stories. Then i don't understand the utility of not allowing your characters to develop.
These are not the same thing. You do not need character development to tell good stories. You need character development to tell a -certain kind- of story well. The fundamental disconnect you seem to have is that you want these kinds of stories or maybe believe that only these kinds of stories can be "good".
You're completely off the mark here by characterizing what people are telling you as "defending ZUN's storytelling"; that's not what's happening. His actual writing and storytelling (which aren't necessarily the same thing either) don't need defending here because the point you're trying to make is unrelated to whether he writes well or not.

In long-running series having stable characters is key. For one, because often people getting into the series can happen at any point, and in a series where there isn't a overarching narrative structure, it's to be expected that characters act at least somewhat consistently. This isn't to say that character development can't happen at all though, nor does it mean characters can't have more significant developments, but in the case of bigger developments a character is then going to be expected to adhere to that. This makes more sense in a series with a definitive expected end, because those developments are meant to carry forward and be a factor in the story; otherwise it's just changing a character for no apparent benefit. In a series like Touhou that doesn't have a real end, major changes to characters is strange -- they can't be used as a factor moving the overarching narrative because there is none, and once you've changed a character in these ways they can't just go back, while also opening the question of how many times will these characters will be changed. The main point of any character development here would be to be able to use those specific new elements to explore a larger depth or breadth of stories and interactions.

Look at any long-running series with a definite and planned end and you will find larger character developments as a means to further the narrative or deepen the scale of events in a non-reversible direction. This comes in the form of catastrophic events or deaths, personal resolve to change oneself, training arcs, timeskips, stuff like that. But the longer the series is the more consistent characters have to be: take One Piece for example (which honestly is a pretty good comparison point to Touhou in terms of writing), and largely has its big changes either in secondary characters, or is in terms of making the primary characters stronger in some way, and the point of this is to allow the narrative to progress and intensify in a sensible way. Meanwhile, take something without an end like Pokemon, and you can't easily have these sorts of one-way changes. Like One Piece, large character arcs usually happen with secondary characters only (who are always put to the side indefinitely at some point), or are otherwise confined within individual seasons. It's pretty much explicitly the reason why Ash has to reset his Pokemon all the damn time. The goal of the character arcs is to have an end or work towards an end that is supported by the narrative.

With Touhou, not much is intended to be done and then left aside forever; it all churns back in. The main one-way changes the series makes is the introduction of new elements and characters, because that doesn't really lose anything. So character "development" tends to be more about a story introducing new ways they can interact but ultimately returning to a kind of status quo when all is said and done. This is why "antagonists" basically always end up becoming acquaintances or somehow end up showing up more in Gensokyo: they are strictly increasing the ways they can work into stories and thus increase how they contribute to character and world interactions.

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>>19523674
Going wide is fine when it comes to worldbuilding. But if you want to actually tell a good story, you need to go at least somewhat tall. Stuff needs to happen and the characters need to be affected if you want a good story. And yes, the writing of Touhou is good, as is the worldbuilding and development. ZUN is fantastic at creating a setting and population it with characters. It's when he actually has to anything with the characters and setting, that's when I have a problem.

>>19523674
Development IS storytelling. Unless there is some strong thematic reason for it. A story were nothing is accomplished, nobody changes, and everything goes right back to how it was is not a good story.

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>>19525913
Static characters are often used to great effect in stories. You're full of it.

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>>19525623
>In long-running series having stable characters is key.
Actually, the most successful long running series are successful because they have incredibly fluid characters that can be easily re-interpreted (James Bond is the classical example of this, as is Doctor Who) or regularly change the main cast (Super Sentai, Star Trek, a lot of insanely long running soaps are all good examples for that). I've never read One Piece, so I can't say anything about it. But Dragon Ball, probably the most famous Shonen and also one of the longest, has tons of character development. And it's generally regarded as the high point of the story. Meanwhile, I don't think anybody expect corporate executives likes how completely static Ash from Pokemon is.

Character development is necessary for a good story because you don't have much of a story otherwise. It's not a means to an end, but an end onto itself. There's a reason why character motivation is often described as want vs need, and why it's so important to give your character a strong motivation. If the characters do not grow or change because of the events of the story, then it's just stuff happening without any actual meat to it. That might work if your story is a comedy with deliberately unlikeable characters. Like Seinfeld, Fawlty Tower, or (to a lesser extent) The Simpsons. But that's obviously not what Touhou is aiming for.

Also, your claim that having character change might confuse newcomers is nonsense. People are not stupid. Assuming that it's not just inconsistent or bad writing, then a newcomer should be able to quickly figure out that a character went through an arc in the past without any confusion. Equally nonsensical is your claim that developing characters makes it harder to tell stories. This would have already been nonsensical for most franchise, but it's especially silly in the case of something like Touhou were the characters are reactionary in nature. If Reimu had gone through a character arc in Embodiment of The Scarlet Devil, and walked away from it as a better person. Then the plot of PCB would have still happened.

>Static characters are often used to great effect in stories. You're full of it.

I can think of a few examples, but those are usually incredibly specific. And none of them are the main character.

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>>19525947
>Static characters are often used to great effect in stories. You're full of it.
I can think of a few examples, but those are usually incredibly specific. And none of them are the main character.

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>>19526201
Caim.

Argue he fell for a dragon, he's still a crazed mass murderer.

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Mini-guide of how to enjoy the current jaypee:
1. Ignore every wall of text
2. Take it easy!

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>>19526205
I mean. I wouldn't exactly call Drakengard a example of "good" storytelling.

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>>19527019
But I LIKE reading walls of text by bitch-ass nerds who think Touhou should be like Star Wars.

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>>19528121
>Like Star Wars.
More like a insane combination of From The New World, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, and Shin Megami Tensei.

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>>19528172
Oh so you want no one to take you seriously, got it.

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>>19528386
No. I just Touhou to use it's potential properly. And deliver with amazing stories.

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>>19528786
*I just want Touhou to properly use its potential by delivering the amazing stories it promised.

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>>19528806
>>19528786
Okay, you know what, fuck it. I'm just going to completely rewrite this post.

What i want is for the stories in Touhou to actually deliver on its potential. ZUN is wonderful at making amazing worlds filled with interesting characters. But he's never displayed any interest in actually using that amazing world or the interesting characters to do tell a genuinely great story.