Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1957

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Last thread: >>19325794

[Anonymous No.]

sorry I'm late. got lost on my way here

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone make a new DJT OP? We've been using the same ones over and over again (ignoring jamal & co's shitposting threads)
That OP you just used is probably motherfucking 4 years old for example

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>he's been here for 4 years

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>>19338244
He must be really good at Japanese though.

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>>19338237
no one has been able to make better one than this in four years, and it's not because this one is good, 仕方ないね

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>>19338237
does it matter? if you care so much feel free to dump some OPs and I will use them the next time i create a thread.

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>>19338182
>manga library still down

fugg

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勉強するべ

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>>19338251
true dat

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>>19338251
Might even be one of the legendary N3.

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>>19338275
宿題を食べないようにしてね

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how many of you could pass N3?
how many of you have passed N3?

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>>19338332
all of us because N3 is so easy that you can pass it by reading tae kim/sakubi, eating manga for a week, and studying for the n3 for a week, which takes less time than there is between registering and taking the test

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I couldn't pass N6 if it existed.

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drink your 10,000 hours
self-certified n1

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>>19338275
I made an OP with your image

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>>19338386
needs more polish

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>>19338386
nice

[Anonymous No.]

Are sentence flashcards a waste of time/energy? Is it better to just do basic vocab cards and read a lot?

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>>19338370
Is that like drinking gains from fit men in the gym bathroom to get buff?

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>>19338401
Probably since all flashcards do is make it easier for you to recall how to read words without furigana.

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>>19338401
Yes. Drilling sentences in isolation is useful at the very earliest stages of Japanese, before it's possible to read for more than a minute or two at a time before the affective filter goes up, but once you're capable of reading you should spend almost all your time reading. The issue is that there's no purpose in mining sentences when you can read, and you can't mine efficiently/effectively if you can't read. I was actually kind of intrigued when the KLC reading sets came out for exactly this reason, because maybe I could recommend them to people, but then I realized they were full of lame written-register Japanese.

You can, of course, drill anything you consider yourself to be having trouble with, but you shouldn't consider it an obligation at all to mine sentence flashcards for whatever words you mine. This isn't to say that mining sentences for /vocabulary flashcards/ is bad, just that there's little purpose in making /sentence flashcards/ since they're not very useful if you can read well enough to mine them.

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>>19338393

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>>19338401
People far more fluent than anyone who has ever visited these threads and who are probably in the 99th percentile of native English speakers who learn Japanese argue that sentence mining is better than vocab mining and mere reading. I'd trust them over anons.

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>>19338471
>99th percentile of native English speakers who learn Japanese
This sounds like an impressive statistic but it's actually not very impressive. Now, Matt does actually know Japanese, but that's beside the point.

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>>19338471
you forget they are all "self proclaimed" to be in the 99th percentile. unlike me, the real deal

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>>19338274
Somebody posted a back-up.
https://mega.nz/#!yvBkWapJ!LrTcKd-KQyOXdJD_IF9GfQrkMDTBsziRdPaSDbty4Zk

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>>19338471
to get into the 99th percentile of english natives who learn japanese all you have to do is read, 99% are still "preparing" themselves for reading
by the way thanks for admitting that you don't know japanese so i don't have to say it

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>>19338451
I don't like beams of light. too many good anime ruined by them.

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>>19338401
I did vocab cards and now I can read without a dictionary so they are definitely sufficient. I actually did about 1K sentence cards and ended up remaking some of them as vocab cards because they didn't stick outside the mined sentence.

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>>19338490
>self proclaimed
The native Japanese teacher guy on youtube confirmed that both are impressive and he could only find flaws in their accents. And some of their associates have talked about how they've asked natives to assess their level and the natives are highly impressed. A native even said that they'd have assumed he was from Japan if they hadn't seen him speaking on video. That's hearsay too but that's getting to be a pretty elaborate conspiracy. At some point you just have to accept that they're probably just really good.

>>19338525
Very true which is why I'm deferring to vetted experts. They should be trusted more than N3s like you.

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>>19338541
Wait what? Dogen said that sentence cards are better than vocab cards? I didn't even know he used anki

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>>19338520
This isn't porn is it

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>>19338526

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AJATT

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>>19338471
I don't really care about matt or khatz anymore since they are in it for the money. I've read the ajatt site and seen all of matts videos including the deleted ones and know all about their 180 degree turns theyve made on their previous advice they swore by so that's why i'm asking anonymous users here because they are more trustworthy.

>>19338425
Makes some good points that are plain to see without relying on auhority

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>>19338584
I haven't opened it, but it looks okay.
>>19338520
Thank you, anon.

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>>19338609
Khatz only changed up things after he attempted to monetize. Matt hasn't 180'd on anything, and if he did that's just evidence he's open to having his mind changed. Even if your lie was truth, you should still take advice from someone who is fluent but might try to scam you over people who aren't fluent. Who cares if you think he makes good points if you've no way of telling if he's fluent? And how can you trust your intuition if you're not fluent either? My intuition says his point about sentences being superfluous is kinda silly. Words aren't used in isolation. Sentence context is important, and mining the entire sentence is as easy as mining the word. It can only be a good thing. But who gives a shit about a dekinai's intuition? Trust the vetted (by natives) experts.

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>>19338661
That's cool but why should I listen to you?

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Does anyone have a kanji list for Island? The first episode of the anime has intrigued me, but I'm not sure how I'd do with it as a first VN.

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>>19338666
I didn't give you any advice on learning Japanese. I told you to listen to the advice of people whose fluency have been vetted by natives.

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>>19338594
I still like the original better. the guy who said "needs more polish" is lying.

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>>19338682
Why should I listen to you about that?

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>>19338672
>not sure how I'd do with it as a first VN.
Only one way to find out. But if you haven't read much Japanese, VN or not, you're going to have a hard time with anything.

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>>19338661
words are used in isolation all the time so i take it you haven't read or listened to a lot of japanese yet. If that's the case why should i listen to you? If you can't assess matt or khatz's japanese level why should i listen to you? I don't trust japanese people either when it comes to assessing foreigners. And in the first place this is about sentence cards vs vocab cards. Khatz decided cloze deletion is better and matt decided anki is torture and deleted his account.

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>>19338742
>matt decided anki is torture and deleted his account.
*once you reach basic fluency
>words are used in isolation all the time
i'm pretty sure they have context around them unless you're talking about a vocabulary test in school where you're just given a list of random words.

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>>19338752
sentences are examples of use, not context

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>>19338672
I suggest not doing Island for your first VN. While the grammar is technically easy there is a lot of long-winded scientific infodumping. If that isn't bad enough the protagonist's internal monologues are really heavy and involved and the game expects you to keep up with its numerous hypothetical situations and shock you with red herrings. It's a good choice for your 3rd or 4th VN but I suggest you pick something simpler to start with. Even Eustia is easier.

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where is based rap to save us from the bandwagon recruiters

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>>19338752
They have context around them but it's not always verbal or written context. Sometimes it's seeing someone walk in the cold and say 寒い. You can remember the context for a while but the point is to learn and remember words so you know what they mean when they apear in a new context, not memorize sentences from books. So why is srsing sentences better in your own opinion?

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also in general doing recently released VNs as your first VN might be a bad idea, there's a good chance they're missing content that will get added later and also not enough people have read it to know whether it's "kamige" or not (and you shouldn't ruin kamige as an early read)

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>>19338794
>So why is srsing sentences better in your own opinion?
first, it should be clear, but i'm not the anon that has been part of this discussion as i just jumped in with the post which you replied to. second, i am also not fluent so my opinion means nothing, i get that.
the benefit i see with srsing sentence cards is really only when first starting out and reading is a massive pain in the ass due to not being familiar with how to actually read the words -- furigana be damned. having a relatively small group of words that you see over and over will help you memorize them faster because you aren't overwhelmed with information (~5k potential words vs ~30k+ potential words).

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What's the Japanese reading level of FF7? Middle or highschool?

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>>19338839
FF7 can't be comprehended by mere moral minds.

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I learned a lot of grammar from my anki example sentences.

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>>19338828
Right, you're basically overexposing yourself (in the srs environment) to certain words and grammar patterns. If the important part is the new unknown word you wnt to remember, is it not better to only put that word in the srs and then spend the remaining time you would spend reading sentences in the srs as time reading the same common words in new contexts? That's kind of my thought process now. I've worked through probably 5000+ sentences in srs by now so i'm rethinking how to spend my "study" time.

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>>19339006
this is the true reason for sentences

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i learned a lot of grammar by reading manga with furigana for 4+ hours a day in bed every night for two weeks

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>>19338182
>buy five volumes of my favorite manga on a whim
>can't read kanji worth a shit
I wanna die

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>>19339032
>bathing in manga for 4 hours a day
よくないよ、健康的に

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>>19339017
>reading the same common words in new contexts?
In the beginning, when I tried reading I was always overwhelmed with unknown words so I feel like it doesn't work as nicely as you put it. If it did, I would totally agree with you. Maybe NHK News Easy or graded readers come close. In your case at 5k, I would be inclined to go with vocab only for sure but I don't know I actually hung on to sentence cards up to ~8k.

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>>19339047
oh right sorry i meant eating manga

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>not just eating the manga

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[Anonymous No.]

Why do people bicker about sentence and word cards when you can have the best of both sides by putting the sentences on the back of the cards?

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>>19339085
Because you're supposed to do that for good vocab cards anyway.

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>>19339081
where does rtk come out at?

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>>19339089
So sentence cultists are wrong?

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>>19339081
fixed

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>>19339090
It leads you around in a circle and spits you out at the entrance

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>>19339081
>/DJT/
epic

[Anonymous No.]

Wish I'd started sooner. Hate my life.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you read this:
>一〇年前
いちれいねんまえ？

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>>19339139
いちまるねんまえ

probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>19339139
いち(ビープ音)年前

[Anonymous No.]

漫画を食べてアニメを飲みたい。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19339139
its 伏字

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>>19339139
じゅうねんまえ

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>>19339142
ありがとう。勉強になりました
>>19339147
ケック：）
>>19339159
>its 伏字
冗談でしょう？ I always that it was similar to spelling out numbers each number at a time: one zero (i.e. ten) years.

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>>19339159
いいえ。でも、がんばれ。

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>>19339173
>spelling out numbers each number at a time: one zero (i.e. ten) years.
y tho

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>>19339159
is that a ball sack?

[Anonymous No.]

whats the most difficult manga you've ever eaten?

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>>19339200
カッコイイかな
I don't know -- that's just my guess.

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>>19339173
>I always that it was similar to spelling out numbers each number at a time
this happens but i don't think i've heard it followed by a counter, it's just 十年 written differently

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I give up guys. wish you all the best of luck がんばぺ

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>>19339261
That makes sense. I've only heard them spell out numbers like that when referring to classrooms so far but I haven't consumed 10k hours of anime yet.
>>19339280
嫌だ！我慢しなさい！

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>>19339289
>我慢しなさい！

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>>19339139
じゅうねんまえ

かなあ

じゅうすうねんまえ

かもしれない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19339297

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>>19339297
ありがとう妹ちゃん
スキですよ

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>>19339139
>>19339142

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>>19339332
Was that a misconvertion or is it hip to write 伏字 like that now? Or is she so young and innocent that she doesn't know the actual word but has seen it censored before? I'll go with the last one, but I'm not familiar with that VN.

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>>19339359
The latter. She gets corrected later and says ちぽ the right way for the rest of the route.

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>>19339461
Also seems like my 伏せ字 didn't come out right.

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>>19339468
the まる that isn't trash doesn't work here

[Anonymous No.]

ふせるときはだいたい

ふたつくっつけるよ

○○君（まるまるくん）とか

××さん（ばつばつさん）とか

[Anonymous No.]

>rtk

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>>19339501

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>>19339657
にほんじんだからといって

いつもただしい

にほんごがつかえるとは

かぎらないよ

それふせじじゃない

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>>19339081
can I get sauce on the original pic

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>>19339233
ドラえもん

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>>19339760
Google search shows the image without the bridge to RTK.

>>19339081
Did you add the bridge?

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>>19339815
私も

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俺もな

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ぼくも

[Anonymous No.]

こんにちは。わたしは日本語です

[Anonymous No.]

だれ？

[Anonymous No.]

おれ

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>>19339958
日本語でいい天気？

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>>19339657
>>19339678
ふせじは

こう

もじすうも

ぜんごもふせる

[Anonymous No.]

>>19339996
これはペンです

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>>19338244
>he's been here for 4 years
>he's still arguing about kanji memorization methods instead of learning Japanese

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>>19338237
Here's a top quality DJT OP.

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>>19338274
>>19338520
>>19338616
How long will it last before the links stop working as well?
Damn it, I loved the great manga selection.

Did anyone download them all?
Perhaps someone could do a giant torrent so we can back it up as long as it is available.

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>>19339090
It leads you straight to the top of the mountain where you can beam like the sun, while the ankidrones are doomed to sail their little boats in circles until the end of time.

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[Anonymous No.]

wwww

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>>19340231
DON'T say this to me

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ajatt is for literal brainlets who have no idea what the fuck learning means

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340231
>production

[Anonymous No.]

where can i buy a jappanese keyboard

[Anonymous No.]

So how is everyone's progress since the start? At what jlpt level are you? Have you taken any informal language course beside self-studying? How many years have you been studying from DJT?

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>>19340236
けいさつやさんは

たすけるのは

しごとじゃないから

なにもだいじょうぶにならない

くさもはえない

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4nI7DmNJhg

>not learning cursive

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>>19340365
the good stuff is more legible though
maybe it underwent a re-write

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>>19340365
むっちゃなまってる

なまってるのか

マイクがふいてるのか

たまにききとれないけど

でもねいてぃぶだとおもう

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>>19340356
>So how is everyone's progress since the start?
Bad, I feel like I'll never make it.

>At what jlpt level are you?
I think I could barely pass N3, N4 is easy going.

>Have you taken any informal language course beside self-studying?
No, tried a test lesson in a school near me but self study is more effective by far.

>How many years have you been studying from DJT?
2.5 years.

I'm well aware of the fact that I'm a dekinai, it's my fault for not reading.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else took jlpt yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here, why is RTK so hated?

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>>19340359
苦汁をなめるか、警察に

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>>19340492
The people that did it defend it
The people that didn't do it claim its a waste of time
Both don't have any evidence, its impossible to test.
Personally(to avoid fence sitting), I didn't do it, and have no trouble reading.

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>>19339085
Better yet.

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>>19340497
>sentence deck
>phone
>33% battery

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>>19340492
Because there are a lot of ignorant brainlets here.

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>>19340499
ニートバックスがもらえないから今働き中

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>>19340538
お気の毒に

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If RTK works then how come literally not a single Japanese person even knows what it is and they are all still far superior in reading and writing?

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>>19340563
they use furigana instead of learning

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>>19340583
basically cheating at their own language

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>>19340353
You don’t need one, just change the language you keyboard types in, it’s already on your PC (if you have windows, not sure about Linux). It’s pretty easy to use.

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>>19340494
なにしょ？

なに課？

[Anonymous No.]

>夕飯
>夕食

What the absolute hell is the difference, they mean the exact same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340610
what's the difference between dinner and supper

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>>19340613
One doesn't make you sound like an old age christian housewife

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>every japanese person I’ve asked tells me to learn kanji along with the meaning
>every redditor and koohii poster tells me not to even begin studying anything else until I’ve finished RTK

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>>19340605
とぼけるな

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>>19340625
RTK is learning kanji along with the meaning, you dummy.

Besides, natives know nothing about learning Japanese. Would you take advice from a baby? Cause that's what you're doing.

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>>19339032
Manga is not reading though.
>>19339094
You can eat manga. It is eating, but not reading.

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>>19340632
うったえられろ

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>>19340625
>having a hard time choosing between a native or reddit's advice
Now that's a dekinai

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On average how long do you have to whip manga to get a nice, thick consistency? No matter how much I whip, its still to thin and won't spread

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>>19340649
bout tree fiddy

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>>19340625
RTK will make you learn how to write 2042 general use kanji in ~3 months. It will also give you a keyword for that kanji, but it is not much important.

What RTK wont give to you:

- RTK wont give you any hability to read japanese.
- You have to learn how to read after doing RTK.

What RTK gives:

- RTK allows you to study japanese much more efficiently. You'll be able learn vocabulary for the kanji you already know.
- You will be able to study japanese from REAL sources, instead of just textbooks with furigana.
- You wont need to worry about the amount of kanji a book or a manga uses.
- You will LOVE kanji and see how logical and beautiful it is.
- Some time after doing the first 2042 kanjis you'll see they are actualy few and you'll want to learn more!

Who should try RTK:

- Anyone who wishes to atain full proficiency in reading and writing real japanese.

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>>19340640
かんじはくりかえしくりかえし

ネイティブでもいやになるくらいやる

ねいでぃぶでないあのんに

かんじをおぼえろというひとがいたら

そのひとだけが

にほんごがきらいだとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340661
lold

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>>19340646
What’s wrong with reddit? Many fluent speakers post over at r/learnjapanese and give great advice

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>>19340670
cool head on back there

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>>19340617
Well, that answers your question, doesn't it? Ninhonjins also use different words for the same thing depending on their age, social group or gender.

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>>19340670
Nothing's wrong with reddit, I'm calling him a dekinai because he's considering trusting a native.

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>>19340689
So you’re saying RTK is worth it then? How did you become fluent anon?

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>spiderman, mr t and wolverine
>im lerning japaneese

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>>19340712
RTK + Tae Kim’s grammar + core2k is how most people here get started, though I don’t think anyone has actually gained fluency yet afaict

[Anonymous No.]

Put down the books and talk to japanese people on Twitter you fucking nerds

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>>19340613
They’re eaten at different times, but they are usually used interchangeably despite the slight difference.

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>>19340712
I did ajatt.

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>>19340712
いいわるいは

おいておいて

つかってもつかわなくっても

fluentにはならないよ

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>>19340799
Man did you take photo from your screen?
The colors are all fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>白痴妹 shitalking anyboy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3sqHvdpBwM

New video from Matt

[Anonymous No.]

thanks for the update matt

[Anonymous No.]

Probably a strange question but what level of kanken should the average Japanese adult be able to do?
I'm a hapa but haven't really had much of an opportunity to use Japanese in college so I think I'm forgetting some kanji but not sure.

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Seems like a common sense video. The better you get the more time you put into listening/reading. Srs for 15min each day is pretty comfy if you consume a lot after anki.

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>>19340823
どれも

しらないたんごだけど

ぜんたいのいみはわかる

ふしぎ

>>19340890
かんけんは

ネタいじょうにはならないよ

にほんじんにいうと

「へー　うけたんだ　すごいねー」（そっとしておこう）

っておもわれるとおもう

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>>19340741
リア充と話したくないけど

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>>19339081
The RTK route should be steeper/more challenging at the beginning, but ultimately faster than the main route of just blindly throwing yourself at kanji and hoping you can remember them via words alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340922
漢字を全然使わない人が漢検はどうでもいいよって言ってもねー

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>>19340944
へーすごいねー

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>RTK RTK RTK RTK RTK
I fucking hate you RTK faggots so god damn much, Jesus Christ would you shut up already?
Is it that much fun to argue with other fags?

I tried to filter all RTK discussion but it's not possible, half the posts it shows me are still related to some RTK discussion.

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>>19340872
Instead of watching this video you could just do your fucking reps

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>>19340625
>every redditor
Redditors hate RTK, just like DJT.

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どくしょする

これよむー
https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000879/files/67_15174.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340959
It's not a big deal. Nothing here is important enough to feel the need to filter.

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>>19341017
私 (わたくし)

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Have you ever missed a day of reps, /djt/? What was it like?

I've got like 150 reps lined up every day but it's kind of terrifying to consider that this will double if I don't do them so I haven't missed a day in like half a year.

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>>19341017
Fell asleep at the description of the count's attire.

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>>19341027
Don't quite understand that comment, do you mean I should just leave altogether?
In fact, with zero interesting topics and the resources shrinking instead of expanding, it might be doing just that.

Honestly I only stayed for the Japanese learning related memes over the last couple of months.

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>>19340736
>RTK
>how most people here get started
just not true

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>>19340890
I think it's 2級, according to https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/日本漢字能力検定.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340954
漢検にはね、1級以外もあるんだよ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341081
ちょっとたいくつ？

>>19341146
へーすごいねー

[Anonymous No.]

RTK is for serious Japanese learners only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341184
ちょっとじゃねぇんだ
ちょーだ

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>>19341194
こことか

すごいたのしくない？

>殊に私などはこう云う版画を眺めていると、三四十年前のあの時代が、まだ昨日のような心もちがして、今でも新聞をひろげて見たら、鹿鳴館の舞踏会の記事が出ていそうな気がするのです。実を云うとさっきこの陳列室へはいった時から、もう私はあの時代の人間がみんなまた生き返って、我々の眼にこそ見えないが、そこにもここにも歩いている。――そうしてその幽霊が時々我々の耳へ口をつけて、そっと昔の話を囁いてくれる。――そんな怪しげな考えがどうしても念頭を離れないのです。

[Anonymous No.]

Is J-J Weblio supposed to be for kids or something? I understand their definitions better than Goo's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341209
spook

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341228
No. Detailed yet easy-to-understand definitions are one of the features of the dictionary (Daijirin) Weblio uses.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

やばいね

このほんすごいおもしろい

>>19341232
ほんやくしたやつでも

このほんは

かなりおすすめ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341209
そんなつまんねえこと読んでどうする
やっぱエロゲにはかなわないや

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341293
ふりがたっぷりきいてるんだよ

ゆうれいでふっておいて

幽鬱（憂鬱）をぶっこんでくるなんて

できすぎくらいよくできてるとおもうよ

>しかし何もこう云ったからと云って、彼が私の留守中に故人になったと云う次第じゃありません。ただ、かれこれ一年ばかり経って、私が再び内地へ帰って見ると、三浦はやはり落ち着き払った、むしろ以前よりは幽鬱らしい人間になっていたと云うだけです。

[Anonymous No.]

I've started to piss in jugs to cut the wasted time spent in toilet rather than AJATTing

[Anonymous No.]

>he's not shitting in a bucket as well
how much of a pleb can you be

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341309
We don't give a shit. Read >>19338182.
You're always shitposting, but shittier than ever today.

[Anonymous No.]

His video about quitting Anki is actually okay..

tl;dr:

Anki isn't actually designed very well. It's the most basic SRS that will work. (Note: modern supermemo is even worse - he doesn't say this but it's a thing)
He was addicted to SRSing obscure words (like someone memorizing a french dictionary) instead of using it to target specific problems with his Japanese (like his pitch accent problems).
SRSing obscure words fucked up his subconscious mode of how common what words for what things are.
Yes, SRS is still useful if you're really bad at Japanese.
He wants to make a killswitch addon that automatically deletes cards when their interval is too large.

Just don't fall for the rest of his advice. Most of his advice is really bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to report all e-celeb shitposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341380
>Just don't fall for the rest of his advice. Most of his advice is really bad.
shut up n3

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341390
I'm N1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341322
jug pissing is no joke there's a reason neets are known for it
>>19341390
you're sub-n3

[Anonymous No.]

matt sine

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341391
and still in no position to criticize matt
>>19341397
ok n5

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341404
you don't know japanese, stop defending false idols

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341407
natives have vetted him. you'll never compare to him so stop claiming his advice is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341412
holy shit you're seriously delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341412
nobody gives a fuck what natives nor your fucking boyfriend has to say, neck yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341412
Just because someone knows Japanese doesn't mean they're infallible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341417
i agree but anon said "don't fall for the rest of his advice". that's not just fallible, he's saying most of what he says is wrong. but matt is way more fluent (proven by natives) so that's definitely not true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341424
Yeah, he's fallible. And you don't know enough Japanese to know which of his advice is good or not. So don't get mad when someone says that most if it isn't good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341428
don't need to. natives have vetted him. in fact the burden is on you guys x10 to prove that your advice is better than matt's or khatz'. so let's see some video evidence of natives confirming that you're fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341440
This isn't an argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341444
oh sorry yea you're right, your mere assertion that his advice is bad is a great argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341444
shut up n3

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341451
No, I'm telling you that the conversation we're having right now isn't an argument. I didn't respond to you telling you that Matt's an idiot and you shouldn't trust anything he says. In the first place, I said, in an independent post of my own, that you shouldn't trust most of what he says because he gives a lot of bad advice. I have no intention to argue about this, you're just acting out.

[Anonymous No.]

lol at djt n2s thinking theyre in a position to criticize matt....

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that anyone who cuts into other people's conversations to call them n3s or n5s or n2s or whatever doesn't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341458

shut up n3

[Anonymous No.]

stop arguing start studying
if you're arguing you should be studying
if you don't study you're not going to get good

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341456
>he gives a lot of bad advice
he's vetted by natives. nobody should trust anything you're saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341461
ok n5

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341469
That doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.]

hahaha ohwow
you guys can't be serious

[Anonymous No.]

the guy who makes japanese from zero knows japanese too

that doesn't mean he gives good advice

matt isn't special

[Anonymous No.]

>go to ask question about passage
>understand it before I post it
Thanks DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341476
it's about probability. a fellow learner who is confirmed to be fluent is more likely to give good advice than some random nobody who merely declares that that learner is wrong without evidence.

>>19341479
funny you bring up george because he's not as vetted by natives as matt or khatz

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341479
he actually doesnt though
but i think he's vetted by natives so theres somethin strange goin on here

[Anonymous No.]

that's nice dear go back to your "immersion" now leave the foolish lemmings alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341487
he actually does, he was vetted by natives after all

[Anonymous No.]

god I wish posting about e-celeb shit was actually, properly a 30 day ban

[Anonymous No.]

ooga booga where matt at

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile in the /int/ thread people are actually learning some fucking japanese. You guys fucking suck cock

[Anonymous No.]

okay go back there big man

[Anonymous No.]

>mentally ill kanadajinsan knows more Japanese than you
Explain yourselves DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

あたしゃ見たよ。皆で追い出したっていう化物をさ。

[Anonymous No.]

>DJT

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340625
you have to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341555
>DJT
Do you really need more explanation than that?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Genki so hated?

[Anonymous No.]

cuz jamal shills it all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341739
>>>Genki is a classroom textbook. Classroom language textbooks are bad. Genki is the least bad classroom Japanese language textbook but you shouldn't teach yourself grammar from classroom textbooks.
>>Thanks. Is there a reason why classroom books are bad? The only experience I have learning another language is ASL, and we didn't use a tb.
>They're structured around how academic education normally works. Language learning doesn't work the way academic education works. Genki is full of minor omissions and has things that are supposed to be instructed so they're not in the actual text.

>people who learn from textbooks internalize slightly incorrect versions of what the textbooks tell them because they don't have enough exposure to learn the nuances that prevent them from misunderstanding them

[Anonymous No.]

Took 2 hours because I was funposting on DJT but I finished my 146 reviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341132
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

俺以外の日本人いる？こんなバカなスレに読んで草

[Anonymous No.]

俺も

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341779
何故貴方が草ですか
植物じゃないの

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341779
我大和也

[Anonymous No.]

Can I just advice all the people who want to comment on the usual shitposting to reply properly? You are bothering people trying to filter these conversations and at least making it seem like a decent thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>幼い頃から姉にゲームで負けては言うことを聞かされていたため、あまり遊びが好きではない。
I'm completely lost on the 「ては言うことを聞かされていた」。What's it supposed to mean?
"If you lose in this game you have to do what I say", is that it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341830
Since the days when she was young, whenever Kasumi lost to her sister in a game she had to do what she said, for that reason she isn't very fond of games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341858
Thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341750
Why would jamal be learning Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341380
When considering whether to add a word to your SRS, you should be thinking, "Is this one of the most useful words that I don't know yet?" This is why I'm not a huge fan of Core 10K - because it's based on newspaper frequency lists, it has a lot of political/economic words that just aren't super relevant if you're most interested in reading manga or playing video games. That's not to say that you should NEVER learn them, but if you learn them as early as it tells you, those words aren't going to be reinforced in your daily life, and your knowledge of that word is going to be very limited and fragile. Learn them at the stage where you actually want to be reading newspaper articles about the latest political scandal or stock market crash, and have the ability to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341792
お前ニコ動のコメ読め

[Anonymous No.]

Who is this cutie that keeps eating books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341942
いやおまえこそ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341943
she's from hinako note

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341792
あなた、もしかしたら日本人ではありませぬか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342008
Perfect

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342008

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341380
nothing you've said is incorrect but i wonder why you felt the need to say it, it's quite hard for someone to be wrong about literally everything. what fascinates me is wondering exactly how many years it took him to realize that becoming a human dictionary isn't getting better at japanese, yet he thinks he's enlightened enough to tell people the correct way to learn.
>He wants to make a killswitch addon that automatically deletes cards when their interval is too large.
more dekinai "optimization", did nukemarine rub off on him

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342034
"too large" here means "one or two years long"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342032
かんぺき

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342043
it's shit sorry

[Anonymous No.]

sos this entire thread it does nothing for no one and is just white noise

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342054
where's your letter of resignation

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342054
head over to the /int/ thread for quality discussion

[Anonymous No.]

wheres your 良い日本語

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342039
don't use anki for two years, problem solved innit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342054
This thread helped me a lot. Where is your 言い訳?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342054
That's not true. I learned Japanese thanks to DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

yea people should listen to you. you know the correct way to learn. that's why you're more fluent than him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342032
put my red moon back that was the only part that wasn't a joke
inverted dekinaichan optional

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342074
proof

>>19342076
you didnt

>>19342079
just listen to me and shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342086
>you didnt
That's not what you said 2 threads ago.

[Anonymous No.]

by shut the fuck up i meant remove your hands from your computer keyboard btw

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342106
Please no more pig themed pics please. I feel offended.

[Anonymous No.]

Cringiest man in /jp/'s history award.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342084

[Anonymous No.]

still waiting for that letter of resignation

[Anonymous No.]

no one met my challenge so

[Anonymous No.]

they did and you said you would resign

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342131
if you think that person did then you don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

no they didnt and they intentionally didnt even though they could have

but you cant

its still an open offer if you want to try though feel free

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342136
they did and also you don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>/jp/thread/S19295520#p19302522

[Anonymous No.]

I can't really say you were of great help other than helping me find resources and answering one question or other occasionally, but I would have definitely given up at some point if not for you. Thanks DJT.

t. DJT veteran who made it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342116
look at that fuckin piglet though hes so fresh and so clean and wearing his airforce1 rain booties

[Anonymous No.]

waiting for that farewell post

[Anonymous No.]

meet the challenge all you gotta do is do it

[Anonymous No.]

considering that post is perfectly fluent nativelike japanese i think it's time for you to give up

[Anonymous No.]

i didnt ask for proper japanese meet the challenge or get fucked forevermore by me the owner of your hole

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342131
The challenge was nothing but a bait, newfriend. He couldn't do it by himself even if he'd try for the rest of his miserable lifespan. Anybody who's been here for more than a few weeks knows that jamal gets btfo after stirring shit up all the time and pretends nothing happened afterwards. Even if a Japanese writer got commissioned to translate what he asked of, he still wouldn't admit shit, you're playing chess with a pigeon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342172

[Anonymous No.]

"if anyone can do this post accurately in nihongo without using any english letters" and they represented it accurately without using english letters

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342196
you have a weird definition of "accurate"
it wasn't even close, it was long-winded and awkward, it just happened to roughly communicate the same general idea in many more words

[Anonymous No.]

it describes how to go from がいじん to あいじん and does so by describing how to remove the consonant. it's accurate.

[Anonymous No.]

no they didnt it was completely exaggerated and full of things not in that post

besides why argue when you can just do it right

right here right now and set me free

its that easy right bring it

[Anonymous No.]

sorry i don't pose for people who don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

instead you just pose as one

[Anonymous No.]

i thought i'd check out some of the new forty five minute video
holy shit this nerd was still spending 2.5 hours a day on anki after what, six years or something of japanese? and people think they should listen to his enlightened perspective?

[Anonymous No.]

no i just know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342194
I recognize that smile!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342216
>>19342212

[Anonymous No.]

no posing here dude

[Anonymous No.]

Yea but I know japanese and you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

tell you what

pose for a second to rid djt of me forever then

its worth it right

what are you scared of

[Anonymous No.]

真似にてはありませぬぞい

[Anonymous No.]

jamal if you're going to shitpost fake english can you shitpost fake japanese instead
like this
我が面目のついに負け頃日がなけりゃ開けない

[Anonymous No.]

That's almost coherent though. You inserted the mistakes intentionally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342230
これで覚えられる
自分が何であるかのジーを取り外すだけ
外人

[Anonymous No.]

I'm late here but
覚えたいならお前の正体の名のガを子音をとってアにする
ガイジンだから
how's this?

[Anonymous No.]

ps if you complain about the double を in that you don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Oh the first を is supposed to be a の I typed it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

*whilst laying in a hammock being fanned by beautiful 2d women and eating 3d grapes*

bring in the next victim

[Anonymous No.]

In the absense of a subject market, would '置いてきた男' mean 'Left behind man' or 'Man who left him behind'? It's become a bit of a dispute with a friend.

[Anonymous No.]

don't argue about japanese with people who don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

the dude was put away

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342319
put the は at the end and then finish the sentence and see what you think then!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342345
Sorry I don't think I was clear, this part is where the sentence ends. It's a sentence of smaller sentences separated by commas without any sort of subject marker anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

AnkiWeb down for anyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342484
matt nuked it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342484
damien watched matt's new video and deleted anki

[Anonymous No.]

after MONTHS of reading and reattempts at finishing I'm finally done with 'reading through' Tae Kim's; I'll refer to it when necessary
it took my only 2 months to go through RTK, I finished in December and since then I couldn't finish the fucking grammar guide
speaking of retards

[Anonymous No.]

this is your brain on rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342372
Give the whole sentences. They might help. In other words, both are fine, it depends on the context. My intuition said the latter was more natural, though.

[Anonymous No.]

How to study grammar for JLPT N1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342864
don't study, just read

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342539
godspeed brother. still doing RTK and skimming tae kim every few days myself. don't plan on reading until the first book of RTK is finished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342932
https://youtu.be/u3sqHvdpBwM?t=14m3s

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342956
srs isn't even studying brother, it's memorization

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342988
memorization is studying also you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342991
no, memorization is memorization my dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342999
yes and memorization is studying

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342956
based poster linking to mr. hage

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343010
nope but it's better than studying actually
still don't overdose, read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343018
okay but memorization is studying

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343020
you use your definitions i'll use mine it's all good just remember to read

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343024
this isn't a matter of definition

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343028
what is it a matter of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343032
meaning

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343033
touche but it's actually a matter of taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342999
I'm not your dude, buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343046
no it's a matter of meaning
memorization is a type of studying and therefore memorization is studying

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343040
here let me show you how it's done my man
>>19343070
i don't think we're talking about the same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343040
i bet this field is plagued by poor studies with non-random, tiny samples that don't control for intelligence when assessing language learning methods lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343076
>reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343080
yes but also they're academics and understand what the words they're using mean
>>19343076
you don't know english

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343087
that's why i'm in the daily english thread, friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343095
cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343087
>yes but also they're academics and understand what the words they're using mean
well of course since the words they use are defined by how they use them...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343081
the thought that you looked at that image and the only thing you saw was >reddit is what really makes my day

[Anonymous No.]

daily cringe thread

[Anonymous No.]

don't wring yourself out too hard

[Anonymous No.]

daily studying is eating thread

[Anonymous No.]

I think I'll start filtering all-lowercase just for this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343127
don't study, just eat

[Anonymous No.]

Finished my Japanese for today. Now I can funpost here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343134
Did you remember to eat?

[Anonymous No.]

I watched a video earlier of an AJATTer who studied 4+ hours every day for 3 years, spent 7 months in Japan, and failed the N2. How is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343146
They didn't eat enough manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343146
what did they actually do though, i might be able to answer you're less vague

[Anonymous No.]

pls don't force memes
t. /djt/ management

[Anonymous No.]

Don't eat manga.

[Anonymous No.]

then what will i wash down with anime

[Anonymous No.]

That's not how you consume media and you know it.

[Anonymous No.]

Consuming manga is ___ing.

[Anonymous No.]

don't eat mango

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343146
If you're talking about Matt's friend then he kinda answers it himself, which was that he didn't actually AJATT and would go months at a time not studying beyond doing reviews in anki. If you mean someone else, again, they didn't actually do AJATT. It's impossible to get that much immersion and not learn.

[Anonymous No.]

Mango is eating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343264
It was just random guy who showed up in my Youtube recommendations.

[Anonymous No.]

mango is reading
manga is eating
don't fuck this up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343283
Oh right thanks

[Anonymous No.]

The secret to learning nihongo is to spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week passively listening to anime OSTs with no vocals in them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343277
>>19343146
This is why the extra cruft in AJATT is all. Just read all the time and listen to what you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343287
no you dork you need anime OPs with engrish vocals

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343289
all bad*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343291
But I already know German

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343289
The "extra cruft" won't doesn't matter if you're reading 4+ hours and listening 4+ hours a day as you're told.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343316
Okay but also people need time to maintain their quality of life by dealing with hygiene, other hobbies, their job/education/vocation, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343316
>>19343328
not just that but wasting time on extra cruft burns you out and decreases the chance that you'll actually read 4+ hours and listen 4+ hours a day as you're told, which might be why so many people tried and didn't fucking do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343328
Reading and listening are the most important aspects of learning and they're stressed above all others. So if you have other commitments like a job then you just fit AJATT around that. This is really, really, really obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343338
>burns you out
>and didn't fucking do it
And? Yea, not everyone is going to want to learn as much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343339
Okay but just reading and listening all the time isn't AJATT.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going on a trip to England tomorrow to in a week from now. On my trip I won't be able to immerse or mine new sentences, I'll only be able to review my sentence-mining deck. Can somebody here convince me that I'm not going to lose all my results?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343348
keep telling yourself that you're weak for getting burnt out, it's the only way to really suffer for the next year before you realize that the e-celebrity wasn't right about everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343355
Well sure, you're supposed to sentence mine too. That can be fit into your typical day. And if you don't want to do all of that then don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343378
Please don't engage in arguments about learning methods if you're still a beginner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343383
this coming from a discussion on the proper way to ajatt is rich

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343377
>keep telling yourself that you're weak for getting burnt out
If the method burns you out then it burns you and that can't be helped. Since when did anyone say that the method was for everyone? Obviously not everyone is going to want to do it. Such a bizarre and dumb criticism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343393
No this discussion is actually about what AJATT even is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343398
No it's not. You turned it into that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343402
You have no idea how conversations work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343394
i'm inferring that if you believe this because matt said so then you are probably currently doing it, and i'm wishing you the best suffering possible when it starts to set in

[Anonymous No.]

The was an oniichan a month ago who said he'd watch raw anime until the end of June and post results of how much his listening or whatever improved.
Well June is over now, has he posted results yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343398
>proper way to ajatt
>what AJATT even is
tomato tomato, don't half of you fuckers regularly repeat that ajatt is what you want it to be? if you think the term is sacred then maybe you should be saying "mia" to be clear now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343434
anon i think you're confused about the conversation you're responding to

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343439
you may be right, i've been off my game since i got btfo by a study that says my meme isn't proper use of english, i'll let you guys continue

[Anonymous No.]

>you should be saying "mia" to be clear now
Good point. Based Matt has even clarified that MIA accommodates people at every level of fluency and all amounts of effort/commitment. It's getting harder and harder to defeat him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343427
yes, I know Japanese now
thanks for asking

[Anonymous No.]

You're not him, and you don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that it is physically impossible for the small gaijin brain to learn Japanese, as it has been attested by scientists. All your efforts are in vain.

[Anonymous No.]

that's why the first step is to become japanese, make sure to drink your anime

[Anonymous No.]

You included.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks to 永劫回帰 we'll all know Japanese eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343507
fuck off, yolo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343517
That doesn't matter when there are an infinite number of (You)s and (Me)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343427
I posted it a few days ago. Here it is.

I just reached my goal of 60 raw anime episodes for the month, so I thought I'd give my opinion on them. These are all anime I watched when they aired so I have seen them before but it has been several years.

Boku dake ga Inai Machi: Could understand a decent amount, mostly the conversations between the kids. Most of the really important parts were too hard to understand.
Idolmaster: Understood quite a bit. I would recommend this one to other people who want to try watching raws.
Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry: Couldn't understand shit, especially the last 2 episodes. It was nice watching the last fight and being able to concentrate on the animation since I wasn't looking at subs.

I feel like my listening may have improved a little bit but not much. I am getting more comfortable with watching things I don't understand. Not sure if that is a good thing or not.

July update:
Shingeki no Kyojin: Felt a little easier than Rakudai Kishi, but I think that is because there is more action so you get more context. I started getting frustrated towards the end because I wasn't understanding enough, so I would sometimes pause and look at the Japanese subs in Firefox to understand certain lines.

I'm undecided on what I'm going to watch next. I think I really need to watch something easier, but I can't think of anything easy that I want to rewatch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343569
that's a lot of episodes in july, are you still reading much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343569
>I'm undecided on what I'm going to watch next.
I recently watched Love Lab raw, it was my second raw anime.
It was way easier than Maria Holic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343569
How well do you go on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEcye1K-MOA

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343178
eating manga is a good meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343682
how many pounds of manga do you recommend consuming for n1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343595
I started adding to July after I finished my June goals, so I didn't watch 37 episodes in the last 2 days.

I haven't been reading very much at all. About 10 chapters of manga in the last 2 months. I'm about to finish my first ever manga series later tonight, but I don't want the ending spoiled so I won't say which one. I'll probably post about it later because I loved it.

>>19343632
I'm not going to watch the whole thing, but I got the first one right. I didn't understand the second one even after seeing it in English, so I might be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343736
manga eaters dont care about tests theyre free souls thats why they eat manga so i wouldnt be able to tell you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19338393

[Anonymous No.]

tfw japan almost did it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343884
Did what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343902
shinji tried to fight off the belgians

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343632
I'm getting most of these wrong. This is depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342319
Update: Friend's now shouting me down to the point where I'm starting to doubt eveything I've learned and read.

He's arguing with me that "xを置いてきた男" means 'The man that left x behind' rather than 'The man that x left behind'. His justification for this is the sentence is 'ご飯を食べた犬', where even though technically the subject marker comes at the end, the sentence still means 'The dog ate food'.

I've never come across subject markers being placed at the end of a sentence while reading so I'm happy to be wrong at this point. I honestly just want him off my back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343997
Relative clauses in Japanese use an animacy hierarchy to solve ambiguities in the role of the modified noun. The animacy hierarchy is affected by context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343997
>rather than 'The man that x left behind'
i don't know why this would be considered an option
>I've never come across subject markers being placed at the end of a sentence
they can, but if xをy is a relative clause acting as an adjective then the whole thing is the subject marker innit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343870
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344034
I guess I'm just getting confused because I naturally assumed that if there's a subject marker, it's telling me to pay attention to the fact that this is the thing that is currently carrying out an action or is the subject of what's being said.

So just to clarify, in "xを置いてきた男", 男 is the one doing the leaving behind? Not 'x left behind man' to put it crudely?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19338386
maybe edit the Japanese flag onto the headband

[Anonymous No.]

honestly the only reason I don't use the /int/ thread is because I'm from $uniqueCountry and posting there would be equal to tripfagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344086
Learn how the を particle works and you'll have your answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343632
lmao, what is this babby shit? Is this what happens when your only input is mango and reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>Is this what happens
What happens?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344086
i don't know japanese but my amateur understanding is that を definitely marks what was left behind and は is basically just omitted here, but an omitted は could either be specifically marking 男 as who carried out the action of leaving x behind, or left-x-behind could be an adjective describing 男 who is being introduced as a subject for a different discussion. just nuance, and maybe one of these options is unnatural or wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344148
>>19343945

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344112
Why is RTK so bad and hated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344242
it's not even rtk that's the problem, it's the people who push it
it just so happens that rtk isn't good either

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344142
>what is this babby shit?
>FOR BEGINNERS
gee anon, I don't know it's almost as if it's supposed to be firststeps-tier

[Anonymous No.]

I can't for the fucking life of me figure this out

[Anonymous No.]

といて→ておいて

[Anonymous No.]

it takes another soul

[Anonymous No.]

How do I find out what 早くせい is? せい seems to be a form of suru but what kind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343945
Same
Why can't I stop being a 出来ない

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

自殺せい
お前の命は無価値だ

[Anonymous No.]

It's too hot to do anything difficult so I'm going to drink some anime to cool off while reading an action RPG.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I deal with the fact that I'm retarded and don't know Japanaese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344419
you stay here and give other people advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344419
get your sustenance

[Anonymous No.]

Why have the /jp/ mods given up on this thread? I liked it here because the moderation was heavier than that on /a/ and /int/ but there's been almost no moderation for awhile now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344459
Isn't it easy to contact mods on IRC or something? I figured some nerd would have tried asking about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344459
post a wojak and see what happens, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344459
they just deleted whatever got reported anyway, it's not like they actually "moderated" in the actual sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344459
I don't think they've really given up on this thread, it's just that they got tired of having to delete shitposts every 5 seconds so now they only care about greater offenses
If someone frogposts on this thread and you report it the post gets deleted in less than 10 minutes for example

[Anonymous No.]

Is Wanikani worth the price?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344477
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344477
its value is negative

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344477
For redditors? yeah
For anyone else with a positive IQ? wtf no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344477
No. Download RTK for free.

Alternatively try NukeMarine's memrise course that orders the 500 most frequent kanji in RTK order so you can learn them in 20 days and then start reading. Read Tae Kim on the side. NukeMarine is certified N3 so you can trust him over anyone in DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344494
There's so much epic fail within this post that I honestly don't feel like pointing it out
but if anyone else does please どうぞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344467
I would but I'm 人見知り

>>19344472
They at least handed out bans. Sure it was probably evaded but it deterred shitposting for a few minutes.

>>19344473
It's sad because I like helping people with their Japanese but now the thread is stuck in a deep recess of /jp/, muddled by shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344521
You recognize people by looking at them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344528
is this advanced baiting? I can't tell anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344360
If you haven't heard おいといて from anime before you should fuck off to the /int/ thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344504
>please please

nice nihongo sport

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344535
No, I'm almost finished with RTK, learned 人 the other day.

[Anonymous No.]

it's funny because rtk actually does take forever to teach 人 for no good reason

[Anonymous No.]

I figured Japanese was my best bet at learning a foreign language because of the media. Turns out their content isn't that compelling. Though most games and TV bore me no matter the language or subject. Feels bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344572
you don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344573
Still on 入 myself. Congrats though dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344588
you mad cuz u got fuckin destroyed ??

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344595
i'm not the one who posted that i'm just letting in on a secret

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344578
>for no good reason
because the only order that matters is that which will help you with your mnemonics

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344599
idc youre the same person to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344607
let's face it, we're lowercase posters, you and i are the same person too

[Anonymous No.]

you would capitalize your letters and use punctuation if it wasnt for me

dont forget who made you

[Anonymous No.]

Jamal is like a himasugi poster 25 years into the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344360
with all the kanji and no shortenings of the parts:
其処に置いて置いて良いぞー
そこにおいておいていいぞー

て-form + 置く = do for the sake of the future, roughly
置いて+置く --> て-form --> 置いて置いて
Frequently, the ておく construct is shortened and て and お are smashed together, making it "とく"
おいておいていいぞ
おいといていいぞ

I only wrote that out to explain what's going on in this case though, you don't have to think about it that much at the moment. You'll get a "feel" for it soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

i only capitalize and use punctuation when i'm shitposting
all of my posts are interpreted as shitposts but let me tell you when i drop case i'm being real except when i'm sarcastic

[Anonymous No.]

and then?

[Anonymous No.]

You're nearly as obnoxious as the real thing too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344572
>どうぞお願いします isn't a thing
sub-n3-kun once again proving his amazing japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Today I rushed my reps and didn't read.

[Anonymous No.]

>回る
>it's a square

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344582
fucking upvoted. love your blog bro, keep it up

[Anonymous No.]

I propose a name change to Eternal Dekinai Thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344689
circles are square in kanjeeze, see also 日

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344677
dream on kid go ahead and tell me more about saying "please どうぞ"

お願いしまーす

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344369
You have no choice but to remember all conjugation forms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_grammar#Verbs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344709
That's what your mom says every night while she's bobbing on my dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344369
So apperently it's just 未然形 + （命令）い

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344719
nice id say your jokes are as good as your japanese but frankly they are better

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344601
there is literally absolutely positively objectively no reason to introduce 人 so late no matter what kind of mnemonics you're making
stop lying to yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344728
That wasn't a joke son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344736
yeah it was it wasnt funny or interesting but it was a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344739
You've got it all wrong, it was a funny and interesting fact despite it not quite being a joke

[Anonymous No.]

Just like your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344717
Yea that was it. Funny that I knew about 来い and せよ but couldn't connect the dots.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll laugh so fucking hard when they kick this thread from /jp/ too

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344744
i mean ill give it its proper kudos in that its better than 99% of the shit that gets posted itt but even japanese comedians on the telly are funnier

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344709
i'll give you a tip my man
どうぞ doesn't mean please in spite of what your 英和 tells you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344754
I'm waiting for this to happen
Eventually jamal & minions will sperg out and create 10 DJT threads on /jp/, each with an increasingly shitty OP, that's the day when DJT will get banned from this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344761
wow did you look into a dictionary to find any kind of contradiction? great job

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344677
kkk contains it which means you don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344768
i only make a thread when you guys drag your ass on it because it always works

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344775
someday you'll stop using dictionaries for the most common words in the language, i believe in you

[Anonymous No.]

どうぞfuck offしてください

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344521
how does people funposting prevent you from helping people
>>19344626
Look at the dedicated dumping threads of any other board, it's nothing new.

[Anonymous No.]

lil noobs tryin to take shots at me is the funniest fuckin shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344735
it's more that there's absolutely no reason to introduce 人 early. just finish the book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344805
He said shitposting not funposting you fucking ガイジ
Unless you think both are interchangeable which in that case you should kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344655
Thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344822
interchangeable or not his question is valid using either word

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344822
I intentionally used funposting instead of shitposting to get a reaction out of dopes like you and him, consider yourself baited and buttmad.

[Anonymous No.]

posting should be fun

if its not stop doing it

[Anonymous No.]

is that why you stopped with the persona for a year

[Anonymous No.]

Wew jamal, watch the heart rate there buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>HUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRR I WUZ JAST PRETANDING 2 BE RETARTED DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
epic. fucking. win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344814
the norm is for things that are more common, basic, simple, and important to be introduced early

if heisig has a reason to not do this, then state it

spoiler: "because this is the better order for X" is not an arguable answer when many other components are introduced before it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344655
Many people fall into this おいといて trap. I think it's worth explaining it exceptionally in the starter pack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344843
>the norm is for things that are more common, basic, simple, and important to be introduced early
you should finish the book. order by frequency doesn't matter.
>if heisig has a reason to not do this, then state it
it's the better order for mnemonic purposes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344853
>it's the better order for mnemonic purposes.
no it's not
>spoiler: "because this is the better order for X" is not an arguable answer when many other components are introduced before it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344859
>when many other components are introduced before it
...but that's why they're introduced before it? for the mnemonics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344866
or you could introduce 人 earlier and not have problems with mnemonics

[Anonymous No.]

when someone's entire argument is directly or indirectly appeal to authority there's no point engaging, heisig said the order is carefully tuned for memorization therefore it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344868
you'd have problems with mnemonics because the components he introduces earlier show up more frequently in other kanji.

>>19344878
don't be silly man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344840
look im gonna be on the hill under the tree after school

just fuckin come and confess to me me you want my dick in your mouth forever and ever

>>19344841
i just checked it its approximately 68 bpm

>>19344868 and all the gay posts before it

who cares if you learn 人 first or 500th its just another useless rock you "mined"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344880
>the components he introduces earlier show up more frequently in other kanji
this is objectively false, kanji with 人 in them are absurdly numerous and also common in normal text

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344880
Why is 人 introduced after 米, 禾, 臣, 失, 夫, 允, 殳, 丈, 乃, 才, the right-hand side of 研, 羽, 午, 也, and 壬 if 人 is introduced late because it shows up less frequently in other kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344887
because heisig didn't know anything about kanji or japanese when he made rtk

[Anonymous No.]

Man, now I regret making the 人見知り joke.

[Anonymous No.]

What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.]

if i contributed to makin boys crack as to post that kinda shit i do apologize

[Anonymous No.]

DONT LOOK CHILDREN CLOSE YOUR EYES QUICK

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344905
Should've been here when we discussed some character from のんのんびより being avoided.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is her manko so loose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344909
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344923
i love it how that guy giving a translation that wasn't word-by-word what the japanese said stirred up the n3s, i should try it too sometime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344886
>>19344887
because the components you listed show up more frequently with the other components he teaches and he presents them in a set for mnemonic purposes.

i don't understand how you do not know this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344923
that was good i liked that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344927
This, the author has never seen a loli manko what a stupid virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344930
Actually the entire て clause with たら in it was the "when" and the たら was the "and". It was even literally correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344933
>the components you listed show up more frequently with the other components he teaches
This is simply not true. 人 is, again, one of the very most common components of kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344933
you can stop pulling stuff out of your ass now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344909
Well, I am convinced /jp/ DJT is entirely unmoderated. Might as well make this the local porn thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344923
Wasn't that about whether they lived together?

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone here translate the sign-looking stuff on the back? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344947
Let's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344939
you don't know what you're talking about. 人's frequency ALONE is not what matters. what matters is teaching a set of components that can be combined in ways that far outstrip 人's frequency. he teaches those components/kanjis in sets for mnemonic purposes.

this is a really simple concept. it is actually getting annoying because i don't think you're trolling. you're just that stupid. i bet you STILL don't get it which is just mind blowing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344954
okay so why is 人's set so late
hint: it's not because it's better for it to be late

[Anonymous No.]

i just wanna sync my reps and go to bed FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344954
>what matters is teaching a set of components that can be combined in ways that far outstrip 人's frequency
You can make this argument for LITERALLY any component.

Stop trying to rationalize something that doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

your reps dont mean shit learn nihongo plz

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344950
冷やし

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344960
>You can make this argument for LITERALLY any component.
no you can't. holy fuck just fuck off you moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344968
Yes you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344929
Don't know, sorry.
You could try asking on 4+4chans loli board.
I've seen that artist multiple times there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344968
no single component is in more common characters than all other components, so you actually can make that very argument

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being so bad at posting the only way you can make your short lived impact is by posting shit for sickos

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344971
SOME combos ARE WAY MORE FREQUENT THAN OTHERS.

holy fuck. i thought people hated RTK for coherent reasons but you're just fucking dumb. that is annoying as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344979
Yes. 人 is one of the most common components, even when you do that. You're the idiot here.

[Anonymous No.]

tfw /djt/ talks so much about rtk because none of you actually made it out of the beginner phase

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344978
Do you like lewd ichigos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344979
it's time to put up or shut up my man
throw down some solid evidentiary maneuvers
we wont go anywhere if you need ten to twenty minutes to gather some data

[Anonymous No.]

i shall gather the data
<- anti-rtk poster

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344999
here's some evidence: read the book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345006
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344998
ok youve had your 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345006
i didn't ask for heisig's opinion, i asked for data, this is not an argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345003
I don't have any posters on my wall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344978
You're one to talk with your disgusting astronomical-sized tumor lactation fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

Hows your progress DJT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345018
yeah but i mean look at this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw improving this thread
Better than RTK discussion :3

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345012
nobody cares what you're asking for. what's important is that you can read the book, or glance at a list of kanji in RTK order, and immediately see why heisig ordered them the way he did (with come concessions to reduce memory interference - but generally they're ordered in sets that makes mnemonics easier).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345019
I just don't know anymore
/djt/ told me RTK is a waste of time and that matt is a false idol, what do

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345035
you realize that this is literally cult behavior right "if you look you will see"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345035
i understand that heisig worshippers and matt worshippers are willing to defer to the "experts" without any evidence, but i'm definitely not the only person who is interested in facts over rhetoric

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345039
look just listen to me.

learn fuckin nihongo by any means necessary and dont stop till you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345039
RTK is shit, you even make the loli sad with your faggotry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345051
>i'm definitely not the only person who is interested in facts over rhetoric
you don't give a shit about facts over rhetoric you lying sack of shit. this is a standard you're selectively applying. i guarantee you do plenty of things even revolving around language learning based on intuition alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>he uses RTK
pleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345058
小児性愛 is a bad thing anon

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys ill be back when the sickos bans go through

[Anonymous No.]

that might be a while

[Anonymous No.]

roflcopter

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>imouto asks you to go swimming with her
wat do?

[Anonymous No.]

Here you go, the 20 most common recursively included components in RTK:
一 210
口 145
日 131
氵 119
木 107
亻 101
土 96
月 86
扌 81
艹 69
亠 67
丿 66
丷 65
言 64
十 62
宀 61
人 58
丶 56
心 56
辶 55

This is, of course, correctly not decomposing things like 頁, but it absolutely does decompose things like 研 (i.e. it would count both 研 and both components in it).

人 is there. 亻, which is 人, is also there, very high.

So, tell me, why are 木 and 人 introduced at such different times when they're similarly common?

[Anonymous No.]

guys
guys
it's DJT
not /djt/
please

[Anonymous No.]

超プリティーぼでー

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345100
w-where are you parents, haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345102
why are you asking questions i addressed like 2 or 3 times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345123
Because your answers aren't consistent with the facts. In fact, I'm pretty sure you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're just making shit up and hoping it sticks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345031
true

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345113
They are busy working, come play with me.

[Anonymous No.]

no u

[Anonymous No.]

It's DeeJayTea if you 口語 it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345126
no, again, sheer frequency of a component is not what matters. what matters is introducing frequent components in such a way that you can combine them for your mnemonics.
here's a visual aid.

>Because your answers aren't consistent with the facts
wait what? all you did was post a list of the most frequent components. that does not at all contradict anything i've said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345105
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
GET THE CAMERA
I POSTED IT AGAIN

[Anonymous No.]

Guess I'm leaving, you are boring DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

actually it's 塵捨て場

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345153
Why is 木 taught in the first couple hundred when 人 gets to wait until half way through? They're both similarly common and are similarly unlikely to be used in common compound components.

Your argument that it's ordering is doing what you say it's doing is simply not consistent with the facts.

By the way, the reason is because RTK's ordering wasn't actually designed the way you're claiming it is, and if Heisig said somewhere that it is, either he's lying or he's incredibly incompetent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345123
"anything i can't explain logically is actually because it's more efficient to do it that way" is not an argument
you are giving way too much credit to heisig if you think he carefully planned this shit out any more than the basic idea that components come before kanji
he fucking winged it, wung it if you will, and dekinai have been trying to explain every detail as an intricate part of his masterpiece for decades since, as ardent followers are wont do to

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345159
>Why is 木 taught in the first couple hundred when 人 gets to wait until half way through?
>no, again, sheer frequency of a component is not what matters. what matters is introducing frequent components in such a way that you can combine them for your mnemonics.
again, the only reason this is confusing for you because for some reason you're thinking in terms of sheer frequency of a component. but to highlight why this is retarded, imagine 人 showed up 100 times. but each time it showed up it was combined with a different, unique component. imagine 木 showed up 100 times. but 40% of the time it shows up, 口 is also a component, the other 40% of the time, 一 is a component. it would make more sense to teach the latter 3 so you can combine them to create mnemonics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345169
I just told you that this is not the case for 人 and 木.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345169
>>19345172
why even argue, none of you will ever make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345172
well, you asserted something about it but just casually glancing at the 2200 kanji you can see it's not the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345162
>anything i can't explain logically
but i did.

hey i didn't pay any attention to that spammer and now he's gone.

[Anonymous No.]

anon got 鎧袖一触'ed

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Heisig so hated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345181
https://pastebin.com/raw/fsy7dnZY
Have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345195
they already don't like the method because you can learn to recognize kanji by reading a lot. but their hatred is reinforced because they start hyperbolizing and saying wrong stuff. then the wrong stuff gets corrected and they get even more angry and just hate him even more.

[Anonymous No.]

So it takes like 45 minutes to delete loli porn, I'm guessing no moderator feels like taking care of the reported non-porn shitposts in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345181
>>19345199
And if that's not good enough for you, try this: https://pastebin.com/raw/cnhPPDTs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345207
Welp thats the current state of DJT on jp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345207
I'd rather have loli porn stay in this thread than horribly made shitposts

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345181
here's a hint: 人 is part of 木 so anything that has 木 in it also has 人 in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345169
>imagine 木 showed up 100 times. but 40% of the time it shows up, 口 is also a component, the other 40% of the time, 一 is a component.
i'm imagining this so hard that it would be fucking amazing if it was true, please blow my mind, show me your insights

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345169
this is your brain on RTK
Probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345218
>人 is part of 木
lol
>>19345220
look at a list of the kanji and you can see it. make sure they're in a grid format so you can see them all at once though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345218
dude are you fucking okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345218
lmaoing at your life

[Anonymous No.]

hm I see the people in this thread don't have eyes and can't see the truth by glancing at it

however i will continue to assert my incorrect assertions that i derived by looking at things without thinking about them

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah kids he made a bad mistake but there's no need to get worked up and shitpost over it *sighs*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345240
i don't believe that you don't have eyes. you're just being stubborn and either not looking or pretending not to see. which is fine. if i told you there was a tree in front of you and you just had to open your eyes to see it, but you demanded i prove it was there via some other method i'd blow that off too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345247
what are you talking about i was just internal monologuing externally

[Anonymous No.]

只今戻りました～

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345244
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345227
>look at a list of the kanji and you can see it.
i see 木木 a few times and i guess if you're going to say that 禾 is 丿+木 or 米 is 丷+木 i'll give you that but 禾 and 米 are almost as late as 人 and up until that point 木 isn't consistently used with anything but 采

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345218
nani

[Anonymous No.]

>only deleting naked lolis
#based mods

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345277
same

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345157
Now if only I can do this and read

[Anonymous No.]

Didn’t read today, so I’m just gonna watch Godzilla and pretend I was productive all day

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to the nice picture of the two naked grown women sitting on the edge of the bath with their bottoms out?

[Anonymous No.]

>get warned for post quality telling e-celeb dicksuckers to neck themselves
>jamal still allowed to post
don't remake

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345302
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345302
shitpost with more quality then, i don't see the problem here, jamal's shitposts are of the utmost quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345297
they went to gensokyo

[Anonymous No.]

So Tae Kim + RTK + core2k is the best way to get started on reading native materials?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345394
tae kim + reading native material a lot + making your own decks is most often recommended, but keep in mind these people never prove their fluency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345385
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341080
Missed so many days that I had over 10000 reviews lined up, then I quit using anki. Right now basically my entire deck except for a few cards that had multiple year intervals are up for review.

[Anonymous No.]

お姉ちゃんずるい!!! 僕もお兄ちゃんのおちんぽを吸いたい!!!

[Anonymous No.]

なんてこった

[Anonymous No.]

なんでやねん

[Anonymous No.]

finally finished my rep for today

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhXCzP5pbOk#t=128

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345407
is better, but lot more hours need to be invested, for creating cards and actually mining the words. Core is not as effective but way more time efficient. All depends on how much time you're willing to put, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344997
this, you faggos need to just shut up and study, it literally doesn't make a difference whether you do it or not in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341080
>I've got like 150 reps lined up every day but it's kind of terrifying to consider that this will double if I don't do them so I haven't missed a day in like half a year.
That's the idea, bud. Haven't missed a day in 589 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19344997
they've spent years trying to figure out if it would be faster or not to start with rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>he doesn't take days off to let your brain do whatever it is brains do when you take days off

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345559
if they can discuss that topic with such passion just imagine how well they'll do when they start learning japanese, admit that you're jealous

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/62r8m3JyEwg?t=8357

nothing wrong with sentence mining a grammar guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345589
don't worry i watched all of that video and every other video he's made before i ever argued that there's something wrong with sentence mining a grammar guide

[Anonymous No.]

Sentence mining a grammar guide isn't necessarily bad. Sentence mining a grammar guide *that wasn't meant to have its example sentences memorised* is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345606
>tfw sentence mining nothing but grammar guides for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345589
>/matt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345627
i think you're the most fluent person here then

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345429
use a filter deck to review cards that were due in the past x days and whose interval is at least 20% of x. review using the filter deck(s) only. gradually increase x to maintain a manageable number of reviews each day until you make your way through the backlog. if you are failing too many, increase the minimal interval from 20% of x to something higher (or decrease it if you aren't failing enough). when increasing x no longer pulls in more cards, at that point just take all remaining overdue cards and reschedule them as new cards in the browser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345655
if he had 10k cards he was ready to graduate even if he didn't do it gracefully, don't pull him back in, do you want the poor guy to be here forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345429
>Missed so many days that I had over 10000 reviews lined up
Damn, that must have been like over half a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345677
if most of his cards had intervals approaching a year or longer, and if he graduated to doing real japanese content regularly then maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

Drop core6k and focus on mining my own vocab y/n

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345689
how far in core6k also y

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345689
if this is even a consideration for you then y
otherwise maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>start reps for the day
>miss stupidly easy card like 猫が好き。
>come to djt to remind everyone how shit they are
>feel a little better
>repeat the next day

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345699
if 猫が好き is problematic for you you need to do less anki and more reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345703
readings for nerds. I just want to speak the language

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345703
Nah he just isn't mining enough sentence cards. He needs to mine more

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345714
you can't get good at speaking if you don't understand anything

[Anonymous No.]

Don't forget to do your daily Lang-8 entry guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345703
more reading of what though? someone who can't recognise 猫 and 好き isn't even going to be able to understand content for young children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345725
porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345718
you suck at japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345695
3k
>>19345696
I've contemplated dropping core for a while, really started consider it recently because I'm sick and tired of mindlessly learning vocab. That's not how learning foreign languages works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345729
i don't though
>>19345730
dropping core and going full mining is overdue for you honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345689
mine tae kim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345730
>3k
Do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345725
what part of read more do you not understand, respect the process

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345721
Post your lang-8 account so I can troll it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345730
it sounds like you know the answer, time to dive in

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people shitpost about e-celebs here instead of /int/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345738
>what part of read more do you not understand
the bit where you pretend you can read even though you have absolutely zero vocab

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345749
Why don't you filter them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345749
this thread is more active so they get more (You)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345756
they're in his deck innit
he can use a dictionary or google
is this another one of those "better finish core so that i can read" arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345756
did you know vocab exists in native material

[Anonymous No.]

why do they sometimes write neko like 猫 and sometimes like 描 (notice the left radical). it's been throwing me off a lot. also why do they write 過 with the top part flipped around sometimes?

[Anonymous No.]

does it piss off anyone else when people (including native japanese) describe japanese as having "3 alphabets" as though that's the main reason for its difficulty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345784
I don't care what other people think about the language, unless they know more than I do

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345783
>why do they sometimes write neko like 猫 and sometimes like 描
find one (1) example of 描 used as ねこ
>also why do they write 過 with the top part flipped around sometimes?
wrong font or if it's handwriting i suppose because it's easier to write
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%81%8E
>Note that the box in the upper part of 咼 differs in simplified Chinese – in simplified Chinese fonts it is on the left, while in Japanese and traditional Chinese it is on the right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345783
pretty sure that 描 is just a mistake if they mean cat. the strokes in some characters like 過 depend on the language (in chinese the inner square goes on the left, in japanese its on the right). the brainlets at unicode decided that the same codepoint should be used for both so your computer has to guess which one to use and often gets it wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345783
You're essentially asking why do different characters (with different meanings) have different writings. How would you tell them apart otherwise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345803
>>19345804
>>19345814
that first question was just shitposting. but yeah this helps with the 過 question

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345783
You need to study Heisig

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345852
i appreciate that half-shitposting is an effective tactic towards increasing the number of genuine responses to your questions

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345875
it really is. I asked the 過 question before but never got an answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345900
not enough samples. could just be coincidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345903
true, but I notice that most people jump to the chance to point out when someone asks a stupid question. Then they they have to answer the other question unless they want to look stupid too

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

ちょっとやばい

うちのなか３０どだし

しつどすごいし

ふくすけるし

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345731
I'm at 1k, should I start mining?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm at 1k, should I start mining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345972
6k has some good shit that I would advise against dropping it entirely. I would do 70/30 core mining and then maybe switch to 50/50 after 3k. Mining is cool and all but you want to know common words too.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been mining for a few months now, 10 words daily. Should I start core2k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345972
it's not as big of a deal if you don't yet, but if you're up for it then you might as well get used to it now
>>19345987
you'll end up learning everything in core6k eventually whether you encounter it through core or not, but the words that you mine will be a little bit easier in exchange for a little bit of time taken to create them

[Anonymous No.]

I'm about 600 cards into core 5000 but I notice that most people use the core 2k/6k deck. Should I just push on with core 5000 or is there a big advantage with the 2k/6k deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346024
best to switch now so you don't have to start over later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343753 here
Just finished reading ReLIFE and it was great. It was the first manga I've ever completed, in English or Japanese. Most of the time when I try to read manga, the art style is significantly worse than the anime, so I lose interest instantly, but ReLIFE's art is much better than the anime. It is really beautiful and the entire thing is in color. I highly recommend it, although I found some parts to be difficult and had to consult the translation ever 2-3 chapters.

There are a few problems with reading it though.
1. It is a webcomic, not a manga. Basically that means that each chapter is 1 really long image that you scroll down to read. Trying to read it like a normal manga doesn't work well. I had to write a program to combine each chapter's images into a webpage so I could read it correctly.
2. The raws have some blank speech bubbles. I think they were erasing the text before doing the English translation and overwrote the original raws. Only affects 15-20 pages our of 5k+, so it isn't a huge deal.

I saved everything that I looked up while reading it. Not really sure why I did it, but thought someone might be interested.
https://pastebin.com/7p1pbCLG

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346024
Core5k has cuter audio. It really doesn't matter which you do.

[Anonymous No.]

にほんのなつの

すごしにくさったら

ひどい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346046
湿度が高いか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346028
>>19346041
I notice that by default core 2k/6k only tests
isolated vocab (kanji) -> reading

whereas for core 5000 I'm using
whole sentence with kanji -> reading

for the most part studying words in context seems more logical to me

I am however thinking I could set up core 2k/6k to do
clozed sentence + translation -> word

is there any reason why this isn't the default card setup for core 2k/6k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346088
なんかこう

ふくきてたら

うごけないよね

ぬげないし

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346034
>been studying for 4 years
>still haven't completed a manga

[Anonymous No.]

What are the most 大豆 learning resources? Genki, RTK, pre-made Anki decks, what else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346103
Because the word in kanji is what you actually see when reading, not a cloze sentence or a translation. You're reading outside Anki, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346103
example of potential cloze card

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346149
I don't do much reading. I meet with language exchange partners several times each week and practice speaking and conversation though because that's more important to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346034 here
I forgot to mention that the text is really clear and easy to read. So much easier than trying to read scans.

>>19346134
You should give it a try. It was an enjoyable experience. I'm not sure if I'm going to read another though. Looking up words in a manga is such a frustrating experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346159
That's not enough input to learn a language. You need to read and listen on your own or you'll always be stuck at caveman tourist level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346154
obviously if you just have a cloze with no other hint as to what should go there then it's bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346170
I can hold conversations for 30-60 minutes about a lot of different topics now, I think that's beyond caveman tourist level

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345994
Here is what's wrong with mining at an early stage of studying imo:
>core comes with audio and an example sentence, audio is really useful for an early learner who still struggle to pronounce stuff
>As a beginner you won't really know what's worth mining and isn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346154
Great table, good post, you are a good person.

Bonus: If you want to up the fun factor of cards record the audio (if it's a VN or anime) and add a screenshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346154
also what's wrong with the sentence type card here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346088
えいごでさけぶなら

Enoughってかんじ

[Anonymous No.]

Good morning everyone.

https://my.mixtape.moe/slbdfv.webm (embed)

Can someone tell me what this さん conjugation is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346191
You're given too much of a contextual hint as to what the word means. Using SRS flashcards correctly only guarantees that you are improving your ability to remember the back of the card based on the front of the card.

You can certainly get better at recognizing words even if they're in a sentence card, but it's definitely the case that the sentence is a huge hint, and people often complain of remembering the back of the card before they even get to the word at all.

Any increase in ability to remember the meaning/reading of a word from sentence cards should be considered a bonus, just like when using exposure cards. They can certainly help with individual words but there's no guarantee that they'll improve your ability to recognize that word beyond a certain point or outside of that sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346192
日本語で愛想も小想も尽き果てるってかな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346199
v5sさん ~= v5sさぬ
It's like いらん "いらない/いらぬ"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346173
This is what Japanese people talk like when they're not dumbing themselves down for cavemen tourists (randomly selected):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CS9xuH27Jg
If you can't understand him you are still in the cave staring at the shadows of Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346199
Nice try but I'm not opening that screamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346179
>>core comes with audio
depends on how truly new to the language you are, fair point
>>As a beginner you won't really know what's worth mining and isn't
words that you've seen a few times in different places, if some of these were outliers that actually aren't valuable it's not a very big deal, you're still going to be getting more words that are immediately useful to the material you are reading right now than you will with core (especially later on)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346163
looks great for nihongo studies. is it worth reading if you've seen the anime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346213
That makes sense, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

is this やない some weird version of じゃない?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346247
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346214
I can understand most of this
my ex-girlfriend was japanese so I am used to this kind of speech

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346214
damm that guy is like a machine gun, i can barely catch anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346229
Yes. I started reading it because I enjoyed the anime so much. I think the manga is better than the anime.

I'm going to rewatch the anime now that I've finished, and watch the OVA that came out recently since I haven't seen it yet. I'm not expecting much, since the first series covered 100 chapters in 12 episodes, and the OVA covers 100 chapters in 4 episodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346255
ばかは

はやくちでしゃべるよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346253
No one cares faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346213
Are you sure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346281
Yes it's very common in archaic-flavored character dialogue and shows up in certain fixed uses like いらん

[Anonymous No.]

>been studying japanese daily for 36+ days now
Wow, I'm starting to think this might actually work out... I usually give up in a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346251
thanks. if this is a regional dialect, do you know it's name?

>>19346257
the anime was great. sounds like there's enough left to keep me entertained in the manga too. I'll give it a go after I get tired of the game I'm playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346293
Yea I think you are right, but I'm not sure what that sentence is saying then.
白き世界を覆さん。Like, she won't 覆す the 白き世界?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346315
I'll give you a month to realise that learning Japanese is impossible and give up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346209
your explanation makes sense, thank you

in my case my goal is to read the whole sentence not just one keyword (I don't have any words bold or in a different colour). I fail the card if I get any part of it wrong.

the risk I see with just doing single word -> reading is that japanese has a fair number of homographs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346315
have you actually started japanese or are you ankidroning because that's usually what people are doing when they don't say otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

いいかたがわるかったごめんね

いつも

はやくちでしゃべって

つうじてると

かんちがいしているにほんじんは

だいたいあたまがわるい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346323
it's not regional just archaic/chuuni
>>19346324
yeah i don't get it either my guess is either it's a joke about her misspeaking because of trying too hard to be chuuni or trying not to disturb the winter landscape too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346247

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346345
The solution to that is to put any definition of a homograph on the back. And if there are competing spellings for some sense of a word you add those as side notes on the back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346324
Not him but,
According to weblio
>https://www.weblio.jp/content/ぬ
>動作・作用が完了すること，また，すでに完了してしまったことを表す。…た。…てしまう。…てしまった。 「秋来ぬと目にはさやかに見えねども風の音にぞおどろかれぬる／古今 秋上」 「暁がたよりさすがに音なくなりぬるこそ年のなごりも心ぼそけれ／徒然 19」
ぬ can also imply a state of completion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346412
oh yeah I completely forgot about this
in this case it wouldn't work because it's attached to the 未然形 but there's a chance megumin is trying to use the perfective ぬ instead of the negative ぬ and doing so incorrectly

[Anonymous No.]

it could be 覆る sans る plus 去る in the perfective ぬ form but that would be farfetched imo

[Anonymous No.]

(覆る is intransitive)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346412
>>19346419
I see, that does make more sense, thank you. Suppose I'll try to pay less attention to the chuuni utterings of Megumin until I am advanced enough to make proper sense of these things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346199
Could it be the ん from あらんこと/あらんかがり? Attaches to 未然形. and would mean roughly 覆そう, which makes sense.
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%82%93-666120
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q10114358715

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346493
this also makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

こぶんはいると

つまずいてしまうんな

[Anonymous No.]

Christ, Japanese just can't be straightforward can't it?

Maybe it's impossible to learn after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346525
でけへん

[Anonymous No.]

imagine trying to decipher all the abuses of thou and -eth in english fiction using a real archaic english grammar guide. it's 無駄だ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346525
Exactly. Acquiring the Japanese language is impossible for stupid gaijin monkeys. Give up and go do something else actually productive.

[Anonymous No.]

こぶんって

にほんごでいうと

パセリ

たべなくてもいいとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346585

[Anonymous No.]

RTK memes aside, is it possible to reach fluency in reading without being able to write any kanji? I would say I'm about n4-n3 and being able to write kanji sounds like a cool skill to have too.

[Anonymous No.]

>production

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346650
No. If you're not able to write even 日 then you're too intelectually challenged to be able to recognise any kanji at all. I'd actually start to wonder how you even learnt hiragana

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I blogged about my discouragement yesterday. Today I noticed how easily I understand things that I would have had to slow down and think about a couple of weeks ago. I want to remind everyone to eat well and stay hydrated for maximum gains. That is all, back to your regularly scheduled learning method debates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346648
たべて

おねがい

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK I FORGOT TO DO ANKI EVEN THOUGH I WAS ON A 370 DAY STREAK

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346677

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346690
literally the first thing you do in the morning unless you're some weird fuck who takes a shower or has breakfast

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346690
who the fuck cares
I forget about anki every 2 days, you've gotta learn how to deal with it kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346690
ヘタレ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346698
yeah, the prelude to this was moving anki to be the last thing I do before sleep

I've ran out of new cards a week ago, and I've been busy with some other stuff, but tonight I'll rise like a phoenix

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346677
うるさいやっちゃ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343753
>>19346034
Manga isn't reading though.
>>19346199
It's む like >>19346493 says.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346690
And another one bites the dust

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346690
Go offline, change your computer clock, do your reps, change it back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346764
you know good and well the problem is much deeper than that. he'll probably never study nihongo again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346764
well, what difference does that make compared to just doing all the reps? I would get to keep the streak, but that's just some vanity stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346783
>I would get to keep the streak
That's the only difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346783
>but that's just some vanity stuff
could it be the rumored dekiru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346213
I understood him easily, but then again, I've always known that anime isn't listening and have never used it for listening practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346812
you're right it's drinking

[Anonymous No.]

How quickly do i have to be able to shovel anime to be on a native level

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346832
over 9000 mangas eated per hour

[Anonymous No.]

I've finally reached native level fluency. Here's some advice. Stop now. It's not worth it. When you're a beginner, knowing Japanese looks like it will be the greatest thing in the world. It's not. Do you think you're still going enjoy manga and anime in your 50's? You won't. You'll have grown up by then. You'll probably start hating it as soon as you learn how gay everyone talks to their "superiors." It's best to just let your dream of knowing Japanese be just that, a dream.

[Anonymous No.]

just because you learn Japanese doesn't mean you have to enjoy anime til your deathbed

[Anonymous No.]

I'll still enjoy manga and anime in my 70's
I'm not you
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>manga is the goal of learning japanese
>t. weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346961
Don't post here ever again, please.

[Anonymous No.]

I leave for 3 days and you all are eating manga now

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>>19347008
This
Bet he doesn't even know Japanese

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>>19343569

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>>19347048
But I like them.

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>>19347056

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>>19346961
>You'll probably start hating it as soon as you learn how gay everyone talks to their "superiors."
glad someone finally had the balls to say it

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>>19346173
This is what anime girls talk like when they're not dumbing themselves down for cavemen weebs (totally randomly selected, just your average anime):
https://youtu.be/ZLiIeRqugZM?t=41s
If you can't completely understand everything you are still dekinai and will always be.

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>>19347144
is this a joke?

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>>19347160
Yeah just like your nihongo skills.

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>>19345783
Why do they write 狐を描いて instead of 弧を描いて? Well geez I don't know

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>>19346961
>Do you think you're still going enjoy manga and anime in your 50's? You won't
wtf i love western shit now

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>>19347174

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By the time you've learned Japanese, Google has already made a perfect translator

[Anonymous No.]

A perfect translator still can't manage words/concepts that don't exist in the target language though.

[Anonymous No.]

hahaha no

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>By the time you've learned Japanese, Google has already made a perfect translator

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>>19347204
and maybe you'll have learned english by then too

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>>19347313
いいえ、お前です

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>>19346199
This is む (volitional), not ぬ (negative).

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>ええ……お酒で少し顔が赤くなって、首筋や胸元が見えて……それに飲む時に嚥下している喉仏が男らしくて……とっても色っぽいですよ
What mundane activities can't Japanese porn try to make sexy?

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>>19347386
cleaning your shoes

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>>19347386
changing your shit-bag (stoma)

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毎日暑くてしんどいなあ

エアコンや扇風機を使う季節　火事に[ a ]をつけて
[7月2日 11時30分]

製品の[ b ]などを調べているＮＩＴＥによると、
今年３月[ c ]６年に、エアコンや扇風機が[ d ]の
事故が６６０[ e ]ありました。
そのうち半分は６月から８月の間に起こっていて、
[ f ]火事が多くなっています。

ＮＩＴＥは、エアコンや扇風機を久しぶりに使うときには
[ g ]れていないかどうかチェックするように言っています。
特に２０年以上使っている古いエアコンや扇風機を使うときは、
変な音[ h ]するなどいつもと違うことが[ i ]、
[ j ]ほしいと言っています。

[ a ] き　て　め　ひ
[ b ] 安易　安心　安全　安定
[ c ] からの　からは　までに　までの
[ d ] 原因　手段　方法　目的
[ e ] 件　個　台　本
[ f ] いつも　さらに　すべて　とくに
[ g ] 壊　場　城　地
[ h ] が　は　へ　を
[ i ] あったら　あっても　ありなら　あると
[ j ] 使うとしても　使わないで　使わないよう　使われて

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>>19347386
えろーい

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>>19347430
How do I know if I got things correctly?

[Anonymous No.]

おなかがすいたので

おとうふをたべました

まんぞく

[Anonymous No.]

わたしはゴイ(ヘブライ語)です

[Anonymous No.]

アどっこいしょどっこいしょ

[Anonymous No.]

ｶｯｺﾜﾙｸﾅｲ

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Daily reminder that this place is weeb central. Not a single poster lives in Japan nor has gained fluency and the majority are only cramming Anki decks so they can comprehend the hentai they jack it to while shitposting in poorly composed kana with their other hand.

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quality post

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ｲｲﾊﾞｼﾗﾃﾞｽﾈ

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れいとうの

アボカドたべたい

いなかにはない

[Anonymous No.]

are there any risks involved with rolling back time to get last day's anki? I give in

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>>19347724
that you are tricking yourself into thinking you are maintaining a streak when you're not
better to just accept that it's going to happen occasionally and learn to cope with it effectively rather than try to sweep it under the rug and later end up so demoralised by a real break in your streak that you give up entirely

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>>19347744
yeah but I can do the cards in two parts more smoothly. you're right though...

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>>19347762
you can use filter decks to just study the cards that were due yesterday and not today

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Is RTK3 worth going through?