Touhou Gameplay Thread

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Touhou Gameplay Thread Anonymous Tue Jun 26 02:16:39 2018 No.19299890 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread: >>19195363

Ayayayaya.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 07:39:48 2018 No.19300932 >>19299890 Does that spell involve any strategy whatsoever or is it just attempt after attempt until the RNG pities you and lets you win?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 07:45:17 2018 No.19300954 >>19300932 A bit of both but it's mostly up to your gap reading ability.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 08:32:00 2018 No.19301121

>>19300932
You have to pay attention to the branch of bullets one at a time and learn to read/advance ahead, if you plan on not using the viewfinder. Notice that I'm moving left to right and vice versa for the branches. But yeah those bullet walls will bullshit at times, and the branches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 09:06:19 2018 No.19301263 reminder that EoSD fucking SUCKS and if you think otherwise you're honestly a braindead neanderthal

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 11:31:28 2018 No.19301904 >>19301263 This but with UFO and unironically.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 12:48:10 2018 No.19302314 >>19301904 Git gud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:21:16 2018 No.19302452 is it better to beat a variety of games or focus one down for gitting gud

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:22:01 2018 No.19302455 >>19302452 just play around for a bit and focus the one you liked the most.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:25:15 2018 No.19302470
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I still can't see why UFO Reimu A or really anyone is worth playing over Sanae B in the extra. I just don't see the point in playing anyone over her when she can trivialize so many segments and cards with her shot and has a long lasting, powerful bomb with no movement penalty that affects the entire screen. What's the point of having a small hitbox when your friend never has to face the drawbacks of her being THICC by not letting the screen be flooded with danmaku in the first place?

It feels like I'm missing out on a fun extra stage with the rest of the shot types when one of them makes it a joke.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:51:52 2018 No.19302582 >>19301263 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:58:14 2018 No.19302610 My skill degrades the more I play.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 15:30:48 2018 No.19302889 [DELETED]

>>19301263
>>19301904
These. Only boomers play EoSD and UFO. No one cares about your shitty score. You will never beat Jap superplayers. Kill yourselves. To all the ecelebs reading this: FUCK OFF AND STOP PLAYING EOSD AND UFO. You will NEVER accomplish ANYTHING of WORTH in those games. NEVER. They are SHIT games with SHIT mechanics and SHIT "fanbases". Move on. Seriously. Move the fuck on. No one cares about your Sanae UFO lunatic run. No one fucking cares. No one cares about your perfect Remilia. No one CARES. Fuck off back to playing KUSOGE like DoDonPachi and stay out of Touhou. No one cares about EoSD and UFO. You faggots aren't even real Touhou fans. Those games AREN'T WORTH A DAMN. NO ONE CARES. NO. ONE. CARES. Go play some other shitty low quality bullet hell. EoSD and UFO are the bottom of the barrel. If you seriously play these shitty games "competitively" then KILL YOURSELF. NO ONES CARES ABOUT YOUR SHITTY TWITCH STREAM. Fuck off from Touhou. No one likes UFO or EoSD. Only FAKE fans like those two KUSOGE. Kill yourself kudasai. Just end it. Those two games are for BOOMERS. AKA OLD SENILE MEN. Those games are shit. Just like you. You are shit. EoSD is shit. UFO is shit. Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:05:09 2018 No.19303040 File: 1.12 MB, 1028x833, 1528979712473.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19302889 It's okay, anon. EoSD and UFO are too hard for you. It happens, it's no problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:16:46 2018 No.19303121 >>19301263 whoever hates on eosd is a literal nu-jpie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:28:35 2018 No.19303204 >>19303040 >>19303121 >t. clueless neanderthals im quoting every intellectual on earth

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:33:35 2018 No.19303234 >>19302889 I feel the same way about TD and DDC and always bring up how much I hate them when I get the chance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:39:24 2018 No.19303276 EoSDfags are PATHETIC

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:43:23 2018 No.19303299 >>19299890 LLS is for true patrcians only

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:45:54 2018 No.19303314 File: 623 KB, 643x888, 1521341665950.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19303299 Absolutely kino taste

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:51:04 2018 No.19303343
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Not sure if the game belongs here or not.

I fucking hate Koumajou I bugs at the last stage with Patche.
If you use Cirno and kill a couple of books, the game will always fucking crash and I'll lose a fucking life everytime.

And Remilia is hard as shit in this game also.
I'm really scared of the Extra stage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 16:53:21 2018 No.19303353 >>19303234 I used to hate TD, but it's actually a neat 2hu game with nice music and cute girls. However, I still hate DDC, it's irredeemable shit of no positive qualities except Seija.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 17:02:18 2018 No.19303409
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>>19303353
>However, I still hate DDC, it's irredeemable shit of no positive qualities except Seija.
I don't know what's with that game. My hate for TD is mainly a meme that I don't actually believe in fully, but I legit dislike DDC to the point that I find it impossible to play without feeling disgusted. I actually had trouble finishing it on Normal after I just had to quit playing on the final stage when I had plenty of bombs and lives left several times. I don't know why I dislike it so much, but for some reason it just seems awfully tedious to play. It's not fun.

And I partly disagree with you on that Seija is the only good thing out of that shit show, Raiko is nice too, and the extra stage isn't nearly as terrible as the rest of the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 17:14:38 2018 No.19303482 >>19303204 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 17:28:13 2018 No.19303551 EoSD is for small brains and it's also proof that playing bad games gives you rsi

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 17:45:41 2018 No.19303649 >>19303551 Just like making those posts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 17:47:52 2018 No.19303666 Remap for me bugs out and keeps holding down certain inputs. Can't get GRebind to work with touhou. What other key remapper works?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 17:48:59 2018 No.19303673 >>19303666 I think somebody in these threads once recommended GlovePie or something called like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 18:58:32 2018 No.19304070 File: 1.59 MB, 1731x1200, EoSDboomers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what makes EoSD attractive to secondary boomers?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:03:05 2018 No.19304096 File: 515 KB, 1000x1000, 1500152096836.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304070 >EoSD boomers That's one piece of board culture I'm going to export when I'm crossposting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:11:02 2018 No.19304135 >>19304070 >>19304096 Get out of /jp/ Kudasai

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:13:05 2018 No.19304147 File: 124 KB, 327x327, 1493576755045.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304135 The people who actually play the games are the biggest crossies and shit posters. What a twist?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:13:39 2018 No.19304151 >>19304135 Capitalizing "kudasai"? You get out of /jp/ instead, boomer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:15:16 2018 No.19304160 >>19304135 EoSD boomer spotted

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:16:08 2018 No.19304166
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>>19304070
>>19304096
>>19304135
>>19304147
>>19304151
Stop shit posting and at least pretend to talk about the games.

Why is LoLK Reimu so shit? She ruined the whole game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:18:52 2018 No.19304184 >>19304166 Isn't LoLK Marisa the shitty one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:20:53 2018 No.19304196 File: 1.97 MB, 1920x1080, guess who's playable.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304184 It's more like LoLK Sanae and Reisen being the good ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:21:32 2018 No.19304203 >>19302470 I don't see why UFO Extra is worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:23:11 2018 No.19304219 File: 133 KB, 424x600, 1503194249900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304203 Do it for her

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:26:36 2018 No.19304241

>>19304219
I would if I didn't have to route the first half with 0 margin of error just to get like two measly lives. Between all the fucking UFOs getting on the way, EX-Kogasa, and that fucking second half I just gave up. I made it to Nue once and it wasn't so bad but I'm not playing that bullshit again. Second most infuriating thing I've played in the series.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:29:06 2018 No.19304263
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>>19304241
That stage is a major pain in the ass, I admit that. Ex-Kogasa isn't that bad after you've beaten her for a few hundread times trying to get your shit together on the first and the second halves of the stage itself.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:34:52 2018 No.19304314

>>19304263
I just dread EX-Kogasa because her first two spells are very RNG-heavy and I always fuck up the last one. Not sure if it's because she has too much health, Sanae-B doesn't deal enough damage, or that fucking power loss on each fucking death which makes me wonder if ZUN did actually, seriously beta-test anything above Normal. I don't like UFO very much.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:41:07 2018 No.19304343
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>>19304314
I can consistently beat her with Sanae B or any shot type really and capture all her cards. The first one is the most difficult due to either RNG or me just not seeing how to approach it, but I still manage that 80% of the time. The secret to the second one is to just stop caring and never move focused, it works almost 95% of the time when you just take it easy and don't over dodge and aim for the general direction of the gaps.

As for damage, I've never had any problems with Sanae B damage output. On the contrary, using her makes you tailor your strategies to her high damage output, making switching characters a suicide for me, when I suddenly can't fucking destroy everything and actually need to dodge things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:47:26 2018 No.19304378 >>19304343 I mean, I guess I could try UFO Extra again, but once I win that I'm not touching that game again. A Stage 1 boss point-blanking you pisses me off.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:50:04 2018 No.19304389
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>>19304378
I mainly like it because of Nue, even if the stage is pretty bad gameplaywise (dat atmosphere though). At least her spell cards are for the most part pretty fair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:53:55 2018 No.19304409 >>19304389 Easy doesn't mean fair. Easy means easy. You're just an inexperienced player.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 19:57:06 2018 No.19304427 >>19304409 I didn't say they were easy. I said they were fair. They don't have RNG bullshit to the same level as some of the worse offenders do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:00:22 2018 No.19304441 >>19304409 Define fair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:01:58 2018 No.19304451 >>19304441 Anything that is not wallmaku.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:04:32 2018 No.19304465 >>19304441 did you just ask yourself lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:06:49 2018 No.19304475 >>19304451 That's a very broad definition. I'm not sure of how correct it is. >>19304465 I very obviously didn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:09:06 2018 No.19304484 File: 121 KB, 328x323, mighty cold.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304451 >Nue >Wallmaku Fucking how? She has one of the sparsest danmaku for and EX boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:10:53 2018 No.19304490 >>19304475 it's not too obvious

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:11:51 2018 No.19304494 >>19304475 Anything that is dodgeable is fair. >>19304484 I was not the one saying Nue was hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:26:52 2018 No.19304554 >>19304184 LoLK was the one game where piercing would have been a big help (at least against one boss) and Reisen, the one with the busted shield, gets it. If marisa had it she might have been useful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:28:04 2018 No.19304558 File: 74 KB, 647x756, kogasacurse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304241 >>19304263 >>19304314 >>19304343 She tries her hardest, dammit, let her be difficult.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:32:20 2018 No.19304577 >>19304558 t. foxinthewoods

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:35:54 2018 No.19304591 File: 466 KB, 800x800, __tatara_kogasa_reitaisai_and_touhou_drawn_by_aono3__f8a5087e3366cb28465a7f003c91a9e1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304558 Useless good for nothing umbrella, who isn't hard enough to be an EX-stage midboss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:36:43 2018 No.19304599 >>19304494 Fun fact: No one really said Nue was hard, >>19304389 called her "fair" and >>19304409 called her "easy"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:36:52 2018 No.19304600 File: 85 KB, 768x900, kogasasad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304591

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:41:57 2018 No.19304616 File: 809 KB, 1001x1457, 1500147431662.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304600 I want to bully her until she cries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:44:41 2018 No.19304625 >>19304599 Fun fact: >>19304484 implied that I meant Nue was hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:47:14 2018 No.19304632 >>19304625 That still makes it 0 people in this thread deeming Nue hard. If you're going to nitpick, do it right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:47:59 2018 No.19304637 File: 470 KB, 2507x3541, 1527498316983.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304625 No, I thought you were >>19304409 and >>19304451, and implied that Nue was wallmaku. t. >>19304484

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:48:58 2018 No.19304641 is IN stage 4 (marisa fight) supposed to be so punishing It always takes advantage of the fact that I lose 3-4 lives to Keine in the previous round normal babby btw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:49:59 2018 No.19304645 >>19304641 If you're losing 3-4 lives from Keine then you have bigger problems than Marisa, but yes, she's usually punishing.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:52:20 2018 No.19304652

>>19304641
Stage 4 is a difficulty spike in many of the games and IN is no exception. The star shaped danmaku can also be off putting due to their rarity in the series. Try to get a good idea of what their hitbox is like to make them a whole lot easier to dodge.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:53:41 2018 No.19304660

>>19304641
>losing 3-4 lives against Keine
Repeat after me: Unfocused (that is to say, human) shots destroy Familiars (the weird symbols enemies and bosses spawn). Once you undertand that Keine's hardest nons will never bother you again, and her spells are easy enough on their own (especially on Normal). Marisa's a pain because her nons are really dense, and her spells take some figuring out. I find Reimu overall easier since her spells are easier, if gimmickier, and her nons can be misdirected. Fantasy Seal -Spread/Worn- is a pain, though.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:58:44 2018 No.19304680

>>19304645
>>19304652
>>19304660
One thing that I'd like to add which you might not know if you're new, is that if you're facing Marisa on stage 4, you're probably playing as either BT or NT, and should always try to bomb unfocused when you're against a boss. The focused boms are mainly panic buttons, but unfocused bombs do real damage too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:59:53 2018 No.19304686 >>19304680 NT especially does a fuckton of damage with Youmu's bomb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:03:14 2018 No.19304696 File: 749 KB, 1414x1000, 1414634209878.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19304686 She's a real beast and Yuyu has a surprisingly damaging shot type despite being so spread out.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:04:07 2018 No.19304701

>>19304660
But please do remember that, during stages, enemies probably die faster than their familiars (which are destroyed whenever their spawner is) so regular enemies with plenty of familiars (which you'll see from Stage 4 onwards) are best disposed of with focused (that is to say, youkai) shots, since those fly right through familiars. Once you get all of this down you'll realize why people say IN is so easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:14:11 2018 No.19304734 >>19304696 NT best team

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:16:15 2018 No.19304745 >>19304696 I like how Yuyuko is pretty much an objectively better Sakuya in IN. It almost feels like ZUN didn't want to make NT too tough for less experienced players who may rely on focus, so he bumped up the damage for Yuyu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:25:15 2018 No.19304784 >>19304745 NT is ridiculously strong, but is (supposed to be) tricky to use, which seems to be normal for Youmu. Youmu and Yuyuko both do more damage from shots and bombs than you would think compared to others.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:27:53 2018 No.19304796 >>19304784 Reminds me of PCB Sakuya B who is also supposed to be tricky to use, but just ends up being the best shot type in the game without even needing more skill to use than what Reimu B or Marisa require.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:57:25 2018 No.19304935 >>19304796 Is there a better shottype than PCB Sakuya B? Glitches don't count.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:55:10 2018 No.19305123 Thoughts on Sapphire Panlogism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:07:24 2018 No.19305160 >>19305123 Broken game. Hopefully they fix the issues before it gets fully released.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:08:56 2018 No.19305168 >>19305160 Haven't played it yet (waiting for full version), mind explaining?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:23:33 2018 No.19305210 >>19305168 -fps counter doesn't work -death bombs don't work at times -bombs don't even feel like bombs (too weak) -hecatia is extraordinarily useless and other minor bugs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 00:51:14 2018 No.19305490 >>19305168 >>19305210 those raindrops also don't autocollect and that irks me a bit everyone except marisa also feels very weak

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 01:13:33 2018 No.19305569 >>19305490 Pretty sure the rain drops re not intended to be autocollected anon. But yes, Hecatia deserves better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 03:31:21 2018 No.19305931 File: 576 KB, 640x480, typical reimu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] typical reimu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 03:47:02 2018 No.19305975 >>19299890 Satori version of this spellcard is the most bullshit spellcard in the whole series I swear.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:43:59 2018 No.19306096 >>19305931 Just bomb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:50:23 2018 No.19306108 >>19305931 this is why i hate IN

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:52:36 2018 No.19306113 >>19306108 Because the bullets can touch you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:53:14 2018 No.19306115 >>19304935 Reimu B is a pretty excellent shot Sakuya A is great for bombspam, and the powerful homing is pretty nice because PCB cards can have you moving all around

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:58:03 2018 No.19306122 >>19306113 because its one of the worst balanced games

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:59:11 2018 No.19306123 >>19306122 nah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 05:20:05 2018 No.19306162 >>19306123 its one of the worst balanced games, border team is far superior to the other teams for survival.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 05:21:42 2018 No.19306165 >>19306162 Who cares about shottype balance for survival, just play border team then. Or if you wanna play your favourite girls, just accept the challenge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 05:31:46 2018 No.19306197 >>19306162 border team isn't even that overpowered, scarlet and youmu are quite a bit stronger, the way higher db timings are a thing but 1cc isn't even hard anyways so it doesn't matter

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 05:35:53 2018 No.19306206

>>19306162
>waaaaah SA is unbalanced, only Reimu A is worth using, what a shitty game
>waaaaah IN is unbalanced, only Border Team is worth using, what a shitty game
What shall it be next, /jp/? Shitting on PCB because only Sakuya is worth playing? Complaining that outside of Marisa B and Sakuya A, DDC is a pain in the ass?

How about you fucking GIT GUD and stop blaming games for you being stupid?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 09:48:47 2018 No.19307084 >>19304935 Probably not if you're just going for 1ccs or extra clears. Doesn't mean that there aren't other good shot types worth using like >>19306115 mentioned.

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>>19306206
>Complaining that outside of Marisa B and Sakuya A, DDC is a pain in the ass?
DDC is a pain in the ass no matter who you use to play it. Posting best DDC ass that I wouldn't mind being a pain in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 09:55:13 2018 No.19307113 >>19306162 That has nothing to do with the image you responded to but ok I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 11:57:07 2018 No.19307635 File: 1.05 MB, 1400x1660, Yuyuko (900).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19306165 I agree with this, but it can be a bit too rough on Sakuya and Alice fans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 14:47:09 2018 No.19308546 >>19305931 That score is really high. Are you the best player of Imperishable Night here? I am a beginner trying to score in this game as well but I am having a hard time. Can you help me with stage 2?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 15:41:26 2018 No.19308733 >>19308546 Don't touch the bullets

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:28:21 2018 No.19309943 threadly reminder that talent is everything

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 21:17:16 2018 No.19310184 >>19309943 I don't get why everyone seems to think that being perfect at a video game is important enough to bring in this edgy shonen-antagonist talent shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 21:24:00 2018 No.19310219 >>19306206 not all games are well balanced. I don't know why this fact makes you upset. Also, PCB is much better balanced than SA or IN because Reimu B, Sakuya A, and Sakuya B are all great choices that come down to personal preference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 21:31:27 2018 No.19310259 File: 110 KB, 1280x1432, 1518985718244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19306206 SA and IN have the reputation as unbalanced because there's 1 shot type that is the best by far, with a ton of advantages other shots do not have.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 23:57:06 2018 No.19310844 File: 51 KB, 739x847, Yuyuko (2247).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19310184 Just ignore them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 23:59:37 2018 No.19310853 >>19310844 No.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:26:23 2018 No.19310979

>>19310184
Because it's a real thing no matter what you do. Some people just have to work 10x harder to achieve the same results of others and some people can achieve results that go beyond the realm of what others can do. Both cases require lots of practice but practice can only get you so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:42:10 2018 No.19311063 >>19310979 yeah but it's a video game, who cares? I'd trade my touhou talent for talent in drawing or math or something else if I could.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:44:05 2018 No.19311072 >>19311063 Video games are more important to some people than things like math.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:47:48 2018 No.19311097 >>19311072 Imagine spending 10,000+ hours playing Touhou just so you can post your "epic scores" to your 50 twitter followers and discord friends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:49:10 2018 No.19311108 >>19311097 Yea but imagine playing 10,000 hours and still being shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:51:39 2018 No.19311119 >>19311072 I'd rather take 5 times as long to 1cc Lunatic if it meant I made more money. You're still going to get there, the game's not that hard that it's impossible unless you're the chosen one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 00:58:12 2018 No.19311139 >>19311097 What the fuck are you doing in a gameplay thread then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:20:58 2018 No.19311219 >being this triggered about what other people play as a video game for enjoyment to you INfag, I like and play pc98 and eosd. Gonna make 5 more posts here and on twitter "bantering" about why they're shit? wwww

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:42:26 2018 No.19311275 Which one do you like more? PoDD or PoFV? Why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:44:01 2018 No.19311288 >>19311275 No one's going to answer PoDD, even though it has Yumemi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:56:05 2018 No.19311335 >>19311063 >yeah but it's drawing, who cares? >yeah but it's math, who cares? The point is that it doesn't just apply to video games. It applies to literally everything in life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:57:05 2018 No.19311339 >>19311335 You can make a career out of those. You can't make a career out of touhou.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:59:18 2018 No.19311344 >>19311339 Then go ahead, what's stopping you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:02:40 2018 No.19311360 >>19311344 Nothing but time and effort, the same thing stopping people from being good at touhou.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:04:17 2018 No.19311369 >>19311360 Deluded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:16:47 2018 No.19311422 >>19311360 truly spoken like someone who has never put in time nor effort into anything

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:18:31 2018 No.19311425

>>19311422
Yeah I tend not to put time or effort into things, and that's why I'm shit at them. The fields I have gone into and things I have put effort into, however, I see good success in. It's really not that difficult, you put in the work, you get better. This isn't complicated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:27:34 2018 No.19311462 ouch that looks hard as heck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:39:45 2018 No.19311502 >>19311425 if i set my standards low enough i can be successful at anything too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:45:33 2018 No.19311518 >>19311425 t. easy mode player with a small penis

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:47:14 2018 No.19311523 >>19311339 >taking a video game with the same amount of care as another hobby Some play for casual fun, some don't dude. >>19311422 >>19311502 >>19311518 is nc in his prime or low miss lnb players shit then

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:49:56 2018 No.19311528 >>19311219 I only made like, one post on Twitter about how pc98 was shit, zero about eosd And yes, eosd is garbage, and pc98 is just straight dogshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:52:09 2018 No.19311534 >>19311528 >pc98 is garbage Just because you're bad at something, it doesn't mean that something is garbage! It means you're garbage!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:57:49 2018 No.19311548 >>19311534 Ur right, wish I was talented

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:59:03 2018 No.19311555 >>19311534 Oh also, I didn't say pc98 was garbage, I said it was utter dogshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:02:30 2018 No.19311564 >>19311528 Oh, I was pretty sure you posted multiple times in here and in the past threads being triggered about people playing eosd, I genuinely mean this, but I was wrong, my bad my man

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:02:31 2018 No.19311565 Which character deserves to be a protag in a mainline shmup most, /jp/? >>19309943 >>19310979 Go to bed Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:04:57 2018 No.19311574 >>19311288 You'd be surprised. Wait for the antkPoFV shitposter to wake up. That aside, yes obviously PoFV is the better game. It's more thought out, has tighter design and core mechanics, and it has its own identity.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:06:09 2018 No.19311581

>>19311555
Care explaining why?
But before you do, here are some non-arguments:
>there's no hitbox!
get good you casual
>it's unfair!
g e t g o o d
>the bullets blend in with the background!
unless you're a 60 year old this is no excuse
>the controls are delayed/slippery/shit
no they aren't
>m-muh "bullshit" pattern!
finally: GET GOOD

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:07:11 2018 No.19311588 >>19311528 what about here then w

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:27:16 2018 No.19311661 really makes me think wwwwwww

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:37:27 2018 No.19311687 >>19311523 nc a super pooper scooper compared to nip superplayers who were born with talent that didn't have to work like a slave to get there

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 04:09:21 2018 No.19311761 File: 724 KB, 640x480, 7 1ccs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The fact I've 1cced 7 times and STILL haven't gotten 6b probably means I'll never get it.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 04:12:53 2018 No.19311772

>>19311588
You're annoying. Does it really matter if I don't like your memegame? Not everyone has to like your shitty game bro

Also, you might say "but that doesn't mean you have to call it shit!" Newsflash, you don't have to be nice to things or people you don't like.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 05:30:07 2018 No.19311917

>>19310259
It's more like "unbalanced because there's one noob-friendly shot and the rest are rather equal in terms of power and utility".
Meanwhile, DDC has fucking Sakuya A and Marisa B who are way above the other shots, while their respective counterparts are actively below all of the rest in terms of effectiveness and Reimu is just like "well, I guess I'll just stay in the middle..."
Your argument doesn't make sense. If anything, DDC is more broken than SA.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 07:45:50 2018 No.19312299 >>19307635 Sakuya is underpowered, but she works well enough in her team. Not sure what ZUN was thinking with Alice though, atleast you can use malice cannon on some attacks, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 08:28:25 2018 No.19312451 >>19311761 Aren't you like guaranteed to get 6B after your first 1cc? At least if that second run uses no continues. From the third 1cc onwards you actually get to pick (provided you haven't used continues)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 08:29:48 2018 No.19312456 >>19312451 He's talking about 6 billion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 08:55:41 2018 No.19312557 >>19311917 Point in case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Lg88pv2lE

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 08:59:30 2018 No.19312573 >>19312456 Damn, I'm a fucking idiot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 11:14:09 2018 No.19313254 >>19311761 Btw follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/houraisheep I'm going to be the best player in the world soon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 11:18:53 2018 No.19313274 Don't forget to report any post about Twitter shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 11:44:10 2018 No.19313379 >>19311761 Complaining about not getting 6B after that little clears? Really? What, you sob for pity here and prance around happily on your Twitter for praise there? Good job on proving once again that talent is everything, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 12:55:02 2018 No.19313722 Wow /jp/ you sure LOVE being autistic!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 12:56:57 2018 No.19313730 Why does it feel like the quality of these threads has been going downhill lately?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:07:33 2018 No.19313760 >>19311581 pc98 is shit t. person who plays pc98

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:17:08 2018 No.19313807 >>19311761 https://twitter.com/vincentzeem/status/867860465552052224?s=21

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:30:40 2018 No.19313876 >>19313730 Crossboarding? Maybe they'll just go away

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:34:18 2018 No.19313905 >>19313730 Because it is. Crossboarders from /vg/, discord fags, redditors and namefags ruined these threads. Also partial blaming to scorefags, but it its mostly due to namefags.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:42:16 2018 No.19313950 >>19313730 It's summer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:56:11 2018 No.19314046 >>19313730 retard touhou ecelebs who think they can infiltrate our board

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 14:09:58 2018 No.19314127 >>19313760 pc98 is okay t. also person who plays pc98

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 14:22:37 2018 No.19314205 >>19314127 post score

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 14:26:33 2018 No.19314221 >>19314205 Nice meme bro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 14:45:19 2018 No.19314291 >>19314205 you first, shitter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 15:53:13 2018 No.19314587 >>19313807 Why are you linking a private twitter account? Do you perchance follow this vincentzeem person?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 15:55:18 2018 No.19314594 File: 498 KB, 1013x901, PaintDotNet_2018-06-28_15-54-49.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19314291 ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:02:39 2018 No.19314649 >>19314594 that's not pc98 you retard and your name is censored fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:23:51 2018 No.19314760 >>19311761 https://twitter.com/houraisheep/status/1012244547651317762

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:29:48 2018 No.19314787 >>19314587 he pussied out and privated his profile obviously basically he said the nigger would get 4b SA soon but he gave up and never got it even though it’s a piss easy score that shouldnt take anyone able to LNB more than 20 hours to get

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:32:10 2018 No.19314799 I'm getting into 2hu games. What are considered the, say, 3 best and 3 worst games? Not really to start with, but overall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:34:03 2018 No.19314818 >>19314787 Don't worry buddy, I'll finish it off sometime. I just don't like playing bad games

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:35:47 2018 No.19314828 >>19314787 He probably locked it because of the shitposting going on here. Why do you even care so much? Just let it go and focus on yourself for a change instead of bringing twitter shit here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:43:14 2018 No.19314868 >>19314799 best: IN PCB DDC worst: EoSD UFO LoLK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:54:02 2018 No.19314924 >>19314818 >plays touhou

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:59:06 2018 No.19314946 >>19314924 Who the fuck are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:06:08 2018 No.19314980 >>19314868 Care to explain why UFO and LoLK are "worst" games?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:08:15 2018 No.19314991 >>19314980 Because they're chuuuu haaaaard.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:10:28 2018 No.19315009

>>19314980
Only boomers play UFO. They think they can get a hi score but they can't.
ANYONE WHO USES SANAE IN UFO
HASN'T
PLAYED
UFO
The ufo mechanic is also extremely shit and anyone who defends it is lying. LoLK is a poorly designed game. The only redeeming factor of it is the fact that IT MAKES EOSD BOOMERS SEETHE!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:13:08 2018 No.19315034 >>19314818 >tfw Andrew Scala/Obama/Mokou sheep responds to your post

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:20:19 2018 No.19315091 >>19315034 PogChimp

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:21:49 2018 No.19315100 >>19315091 Fuck off out of /jp/ you inbred eceleb cunt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:33:10 2018 No.19315154 creepypasta

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:38:42 2018 No.19315189 >>19315100 U FRUSTRATED U FRUSTRATED BRO U SO MAD WHY ARE YOU SO MAAAAD I CAN POST ANYTHING I WANT THAT IS HOW IT SAYS IN THE RULES I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FAGGOTRY RULES Y SO MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:40:29 2018 No.19315202 >>19315189 The absolute state of ecelebs who will NEVER beat JAPANESE SCORES. Stay mad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:40:46 2018 No.19315206 >>19315100 lul chimp gorilla POCchamp insert cringe inducing motivational/depression speech about EoSD here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:45:19 2018 No.19315237 The current state of Touhou gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:58:12 2018 No.19315342 >>19314868 lol can a man have a shittier taste than yours. though due to Poe's law I think you're baiting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 17:58:30 2018 No.19315345 >>19315206 Go back to being an incel you pathetic eceleb scum.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:07:12 2018 No.19315400 File: 29 KB, 499x499, 1431095627292.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19315342 post your taste senpai

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:16:15 2018 No.19315463 Yet ZM and other retards blame me, Mokou Sheep, for shitting up the thread when I just shitpost IN stuff and call eosd and pc98 shit, ok.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:18:57 2018 No.19315494 >>19315463 Might as well get a trip since it's so important for you to clarify who you are and what you have been doing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:19:34 2018 No.19315502 >>19315463 Anon...2006 was 12 years ago. Please fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:27:12 2018 No.19315566 >>19315494 Well seriously, dudes act like I'm a spawn or satan but I'm not even that bad wtf, that's why I felt the need to clarify who was posting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:28:29 2018 No.19315576 >>19315463 Are you in a bad mood, kid?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:29:55 2018 No.19315587 >>19315566 No one wants you here. Take yourself and your gay eceleb scorer buddies out of our thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:29:56 2018 No.19315588 File: 226 KB, 407x1151, Opinions.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19314799 There are no universally agreed upon best or worst Touhou games, just opinionated autists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:32:38 2018 No.19315603 >>19315588 >EoSD >high grade Post discarded. Whoever made this was a retard. It belongs in bottom of the barrel with UFO.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:34:27 2018 No.19315618 What the fuck is this guy problem? Remilia buttfucked him with Meister or what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:35:56 2018 No.19315629 >>19315618 Stupid eceleb ape. Get out of this thread. EoSD is a piece of crap with no redeeming qualities. Take those books and shove them up your ass. EoSD isn't hard. It's shit. Secondary eceleb apes like you love to lap up that shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:38:35 2018 No.19315640 >books Man, don't tell me it's the same guy who has been crying about them all the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:41:16 2018 No.19315654 >>19315640 Not a challenge. Fuck off eceleb faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:44:55 2018 No.19315670 desu the guy sperging about "ecelebs" is more autistic than the guy shitposting about IN

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:46:00 2018 No.19315671 >>19315618 Anon trying to stir shit for no reason. Just ignore it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:46:06 2018 No.19315673 >>19315670 Take you eceleb boyfriends and leave our board. This is not your discord. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 18:51:16 2018 No.19315698 This is Touhou Gameplay, not Touhou General. Can we talk about games now and not community problems?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 19:01:13 2018 No.19315752 File: 34 KB, 800x474, 2 3 2018 1cc chart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I haven't played in a while, what should I try for next?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 19:06:19 2018 No.19315782 >>19315752 danmaku amanojaku

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 19:12:44 2018 No.19315810 >>19315752 If this post ends with and even number, then you play SA. If Odd then you play LLS

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 19:14:48 2018 No.19315816 >>19315810 fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 19:27:33 2018 No.19315885 >>19315810 Zero isn't a number, retire instead

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 01:02:16 2018 No.19317402 >>19311761 Congrats on the WR!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 01:39:06 2018 No.19317507 >>19317402 Fuck off. Don't validate eceleb trash.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 01:39:48 2018 No.19317509 >>19317507 post score

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 01:40:54 2018 No.19317512 The entire point of scoring is the comparison of scores.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 02:19:58 2018 No.19317616 >>19317509 Fuck off. I'm not eceleb trash like you. >>19317512 Samefag and you will NEVER BEAT NIP SUPERPLAYERS. NEVER. STOP PLAYING UFO AND EOSD. STOP.

>>	Am I the smartest ITT???? Fri Jun 29 04:19:06 2018 No.19317836 File: 201 KB, 476x454, 1528082950153.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] peenus weenus xd

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 12:37:16 2018 No.19320314 >>19317616 >m-muh ecelebs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 20:31:42 2018 No.19323419 I enjoyed UFO for what it was, I see why everyone doesnt like it though, kind of a chore to play sometimes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:21:48 2018 No.19323725 >>19323419 People like it, though. It's just this one shitposter that can't stand it because it's too hard for him.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:27:15 2018 No.19323765

>>19323419
I'm angry at people who unironically waste their time scoring that stupid shit like this seething eceleb here:
>>19323725
>y-you don't like it?? It MUST BE 2HARD4U!!!
Cope harder. You will never beat Japanese scores. You wasted years of your life for that shit game, gaining nothing. Stay mad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:46:47 2018 No.19323875 >>19323765 you suck, get good, nerd

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 22:13:29 2018 No.19324052 >>19323875 More like you suck. You'll never beat those scores. Get fucked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 22:23:08 2018 No.19324124 >>19323765 Who are you quoting? And this style of complete sperg-out, are you the same moron from the VFiS thread that whined about lewd fairies for fucking days now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 22:25:11 2018 No.19324136 >>19324124 The only good place in this shithole of a board were these gameplay threads but they've gotten infested with normalfag eceleb scum from discord, twitter, twitch, and youtube. I'm only expressing my anger at their faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:39:37 2018 No.19324708 M-MUH ECELEBS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:50:40 2018 No.19324740 >>19324052 >>19323765 dude are you okay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:03:44 2018 No.19324789 >>19324740 He's mad and sad cuz he's bad, ignore him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:17:29 2018 No.19324833 Just got another 1cc! HSiFS Normal Marisa Winter! I should get back to filling out a chart now that I finally have a few things to put on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:39:51 2018 No.19324921 >>19324708 >>19324740 >>19324789 t. seething ecelebs Cry harder that you won't beat Japanese score. >>19324833 Practice makes perfect, anon!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 03:24:34 2018 No.19325272 How do you 1cc HRtP with the offensive type? I got the other two but this one feels just too slow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:31:53 2018 No.19325529 >>19325272 You got HRtP with mix up with SoEW. Do a much damage as possible, and try to only pick up power items for starters. Learn to predict what's ahead and maneuver accordingly/find a route.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:00:41 2018 No.19326065 >>19314868 >DDC in the best >EoSD in the worst Want me to tell you why you have shit taste?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:03:14 2018 No.19326074 >>19314799 Start with EoSD or PCB. Try to do at least a Normal 1CC and then go to other games. Avoid PoFV. Don't do IN until you've gotten good at deathbombing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:29:03 2018 No.19328139 >>19324921 >m-muh ecelebs >just practice bro you can do anything if you try!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:37:39 2018 No.19328195 >>19326065 >>19328139 Stay mad for me calling you out, smelly dumb eceleb scum. Go back to Discord. No one wants you here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:53:10 2018 No.19328307 >>19326065 There's literally nothing wrong with the placement of those. You should be wondering with IN is so high and UFO and LoLK so low. (though the answer is obvious, this dude is simply bad at videogames)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:55:13 2018 No.19328330 >>19328195 >u-u mad?? >m-muh ecelebs

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:12:03 2018 No.19328459 [DELETED]

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>>19328307
>UFO
>hard
>LoLK
>hard
Stay mad, eceleb. You will never score as high as Japanese players.
>>19328330
Look at this image and shit your pants. UFO is shit and you should feel bad for playing it. Ecelebs GO HOME. OUT OF /jp/! OUT!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:13:51 2018 No.19328465 File: 140 KB, 537x577, ecelebs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:17:43 2018 No.19328493 [DELETED]

>>19328465
I wasn't the one denying talent. You obviously need fucking talent to get good. Talent is something that retarded ecelebs like you don't even have. Fuck off back to your Discord and cry to your EoSD and UFO scorer buddies. You will never beat Japanese scores. The fact that you even had to make that picture shows how much of a pathetic eceleb you are. Cry harder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:20:42 2018 No.19328509 I've finally 1cc'd normal HSiFS with all characters and seasons. On to hard mode! For my first Touhou game it's going well, only took a couple weeks. Aya was the only character that really gave me trouble.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:21:19 2018 No.19328513 >>19328493 >m-muh ecelebs >m-muh discord see >>19328465

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:22:21 2018 No.19328521 >>19328513 Seethe harder smell dumb eceleb scum. You will never beat Japanese scores on shit games like EoSD and UFO. Never.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:23:15 2018 No.19328527 >>19328521 >m-muh ecelebs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:24:56 2018 No.19328536 >>19328527 Cry harder, eceleb scum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:25:22 2018 No.19328540 >>19328536 >m-muh ecelebs

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:25:29 2018 No.19328543 [DELETED]

So, our most recent recent sperg is obviously from /v/. People asked him several times to post anything from games, he never posted anything.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/421981023
Takes his job very seriously.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/421394551/#421397587
Figures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:27:12 2018 No.19328553 >>19328543 Crossboarding? Fuck off, you're worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:28:23 2018 No.19328560 >>19328459 >whines about e-celebs >is actually MaZe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:29:41 2018 No.19328575 >>19328543 He went "SEETHING" a while back in this thread. You act like him being from /v/ is any surprise at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:30:00 2018 No.19328579 >>19328543 That's not me you seething eceleb. >>19328560 That guy is the only eceleb who knows what he's doing. Seethe harder, Discordfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:32:16 2018 No.19328598 >>19328579 >have to protect myself in 3rd person don't wanna be too obvious lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:38:26 2018 No.19328642 File: 140 KB, 537x577, ecelebs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19314046 >>19315202 >>19315587 >>19315629 >>19315654 >>19315673 >>19317507 >>19317616 >>19323765 >>19324136

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:42:57 2018 No.19328677 >>19328642 t. mad eceleb

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:19:00 2018 No.19328876 >>19302610 I first read that as >My skin degrades the more I play. and found it horrifying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:08:29 2018 No.19329434 >>19328876 "no, anon. you are the reimus"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:46:31 2018 No.19330257 HSiFS extra is hot garbage. How the fuck am I supposed to dodge any of this shit? Fuck this game, fuck off ZUN. Balance your shit. Christ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:56:44 2018 No.19330312 >>19330257 Is HSiFS your first Touhou game? I haven't played HSiFS or its extra yet, but I heard it's one of the easier extras out there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:07:10 2018 No.19330391 >>19330257 You must be goddamn terrible if you're having trouble with HSiFS Extra.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:16:17 2018 No.19330432 >>19330257 HSiFS is the easiest since Ten Desires due to the release system. Just how blind and catatonic are you to make the connection that it has any semblance to something difficult?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:29:39 2018 No.19330496 >>19328509 Congrats. Most just move on to another game after 1cc normal, good on you for advancing into hard mode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:39:39 2018 No.19330542 >>19330312 It's my first game, started playing in May. >>19330391 pls no bully

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:45:45 2018 No.19330572 >>19330542 Pick Reimu dudester.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:08:22 2018 No.19330682 >>19330542 Your first extra will seem like it's impossible, but it's definitely not. Find a route and use your resources. Don't bully ZUN or the game because it's your first time through extra, especially on something as easy as HSiFS's extra.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:02:17 2018 No.19331293

I'm ready to give up on this series. I've been playing PCB for three weeks now and can't fucking 1cc. I can consistently make it to Yuyuko with no lives left and 1 bomb and somehow make it 2/3 of the way through the fight. Fucking prism river and motherfucking youmu eat lives.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:27:19 2018 No.19331413
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>>19331293
C'mon! you can do it!!
Someone once said on here that the difference between a master and a novice is that the master has failed countless more times than the novice has even tried. I'll never forget that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:57:21 2018 No.19331533 >>19331413 Maybe I just need to switch to a different game for a bit. I think the only ones I haven't tried yet are DDC, UFO, and LoLK.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:59:56 2018 No.19331544 >>19331533 No you don't. Finish that game dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:09:08 2018 No.19331582 >>19331544 I'm so sick of this game

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:20:33 2018 No.19331631
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>>19331533
>>19331582
If you want to do other games that's fine. Keep in mind though that the purpose of games is to have fun, think about how satisfied you'll be when you look back on parts that used to be really difficult and find that they have become child's play.
Take it easy, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:21:01 2018 No.19331632 File: 2.93 MB, 480x360, Rose Hell.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19331293 If you're making it yuyuko with only 1 life then you're not close to 1CCing in my opinion. either take a break or just play different games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:31:46 2018 No.19331667 File: 129 KB, 768x768, 1527073774697.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19331582 I mean, switching between the games isn't optimal playstyle but if you want try them then go ahead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:47:16 2018 No.19332006 >>19331293 Try mastering stage 4 and 5 first so you get enough lives, which you can easily do by using practice mode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:52:17 2018 No.19332038 TD-fag here, why is Sanae so fucking awful?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:53:20 2018 No.19332044 >>19332006 The stages are easy, I just get bullshitted constantly by the bosses, especially fucking prismriver with Sakuya.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:12:37 2018 No.19332147 >>19332044 The point still stands, take advantage of practice mode.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:33:51 2018 No.19332208 Is Ikagura worth buying during the Steam™ Summer Sale?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:56:50 2018 No.19332301 >>19332208 Nice Touhou gameplay discussion for the Touhou Gameplay Thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:01:06 2018 No.19332316 >>19332301 Fag.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:05:12 2018 No.19332326 Fucking ecelebs REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:06:18 2018 No.19332331 >>19332208 This thread is exclusively for the official Touhou games, you cannot talk about doujin or other franchises. If you can afford it, I guess you should try it, but I don't think anyone can give you advice on this ITT, including myself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:09:37 2018 No.19332339 >>19332326 t. angry eceleb

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:55:46 2018 No.19332523 ZUN can go fuck himself. I made it to Yuyuko as reimu with 4 lives and 3 bombs. I fucking won the fight but apparently she resurrects at the end. Fuck this I'm counting it as a 1cc, this game is garbage and I hate it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:08:56 2018 No.19332583 >>19332339 t. angry eceleb

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:18:18 2018 No.19332614

>>19332523
I hope you're not playing on easy or normal mode, anon. PCB is one of the most entry Touhou level games you could play. Plus, Touhou, as a bullet hell series, is nothing compared to others. Touhou is a relatively tame bullet hell. Don't be angry at ZUN just because you're terrible at bullet hells.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:39:57 2018 No.19332682 >>19332614 I was playing on normal. Dude I've 1cc'd HSiFS several times, I'm not exactly bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:54:54 2018 No.19332730 >>19332208 Check the shoot 'em up general, it's one of the few which are tolerable on that garbage board.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:55:17 2018 No.19332732 >>19332682 HSiFS is markedly easier than PCB.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 04:02:34 2018 No.19332906 >>19332732 Only because you can spam releases.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 05:37:39 2018 No.19333147 how many ccs do i need to have under my belt to stop being a secondary, im at 4 rn

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 05:55:22 2018 No.19333194 >>19333147 you need at LEAST lunatic 1cc for anyone here to take you semi seriously, LNB is where you're "kinda good"

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 08:52:40 2018 No.19333803
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>>19332523
Another person who falls victim to the famous last spell.
And no, it doesn't count as a 1cc. It's not like IN where the last spells mean nothing, this one is actually necessary to beat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 09:10:59 2018 No.19333843 >>19333194 So judging from the charts, there's barely a handful of people who's "kinda good" here, huh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:15:12 2018 No.19335355 >>19333803 Too bad, already marked it on my chart

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:16:56 2018 No.19335371 >>19333194 i cant tell if youre baiting or just autistic

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:51:24 2018 No.19335539

I quit this fucking series. First I get bullshitted by a bullshit spell on PCB and now TD keeps bullshitting me too. "Oh you just need one more life and you could easily 1cc? Here you go, let me just spawn all the life orbs behind huge walls of bullets so you can't get them." Jesus fucking christ zun go fucking die.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:52:40 2018 No.19335544 >>19335539 You do know that using trance makes you invincible and doubles the value of your pickups, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:54:03 2018 No.19335554 >>19335539 good. fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:58:05 2018 No.19335570 >>19335544 Wait what? What the shit when was this ever explained?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:00:39 2018 No.19335578 File: 143 KB, 322x276, 1444589608570.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19335570 Don't worry, I didn't know either at first. Nothing to be ashamed of.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:00:53 2018 No.19335579 File: 311 KB, 250x300, 1527917667051.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19335539 Nobody has ever gotten better by ragequitting, you have only yourself to blame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:00:56 2018 No.19335580 >>19335570 9 button pushes away.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:10:10 2018 No.19335633

>>19333147
I stopped considering myself a casual after my first extra clear and stopped considering myself a secondary after getting my first lunatic 1cc. Now it doesn't even bother me if someone on /jp/ tells me to "lurk at least two years before posting" or "get out of /jp/" and can proudly shitpost about the girls.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:46:36 2018 No.19335849 >>19335579 zun could learn how to balance games and explain mechanics

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:56:12 2018 No.19335909
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>>19335570
>What the shit when was this ever explained?
>>19335849
>zun could learn how to [...] explain mechanics
There's a "Manual" function in the main menu that sounds like you should peruse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:30:15 2018 No.19336462 >>19330391 You actually have to put in effort if you're not playing as Reimu or maybe Cirno.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:35:53 2018 No.19336489

>>19335539
But Yuyuko's final spell isn't that bad, I capped it blind. Also, if you're struggling playing Sakuya you are in a dire need of learning how to bomb. Just keep trying, bombing, dodging and learning, and you'll realize Normal mode isn't that bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:41:13 2018 No.19336521 >>19336489 Oh, and never forget to apply vpatch, PCB is fucking torture without it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:04:46 2018 No.19336666 >>19336462 Reimu does make the whole encounter pathetic, but I don't remember having much difficulty as any character.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 18:06:39 2018 No.19337013 >>19299890 How do i play touhou if all i have is a pc and like in murica?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 18:20:47 2018 No.19337065 >>19337013 download it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 21:26:52 2018 No.19338070 I'll fucking never 1cc. It doesn't matter how many lives I have at the final boss, it doesn't matter what game it is, I choke every fucking time. I'm sick of this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 21:30:25 2018 No.19338090 File: 615 KB, 600x600, 1517984806765.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19338070 Bitching and whining on /jp/ won't get you any better at the games, dumb ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 21:30:28 2018 No.19338093 >>19338070 then quit. give up. If you legitimately think you will never get 1CC then stop trying.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:04:46 2018 No.19338282
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>>19338070
Pick up LLS. It hands you a ton of lives for doing absolutely nothing as they are awarded based on scoring, but the scores needed for them are so low you'll get every extra life that's available that way. Not only that, but extra lives are also awarded on stages 3, 4, 5 and 6 making them even more plentyful. Combine that with the overall easiness and relatively short length of the game and the fact that stage 4 and its boss are the hardest in the game (while the final two stages and bosses are notoriously easy) and you're in for a very approachable 1cc. Just pick Marisa A. The only things you need to worry about is a few instances that you need to know beforehand on how to approach, but once you've got that, the game is as good as cleared.

Yuuka is such a pushover I actually feel bad for her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:18:54 2018 No.19338364 I'm going to do a lunatic clear of LLS because I need a screenshot of the congratulations screen. Wish me luck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:23:17 2018 No.19338394 >>19338364 Good anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:25:16 2018 No.19338405 File: 38 KB, 649x409, 1530498316549.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19338364 You mean this one? Don't look if you don't want a spoiler and want to do it yourself. Good luck anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:25:52 2018 No.19338411 >>19338364 Good luck anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:29:56 2018 No.19338443 >>19338405 It's gotta be that one. >>19338411 I will return as soon as I clear it (Fuck knows when)

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:35:37 2018 No.19338480
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>>19338443
Might as well post my all time high LLS extra skill verdict now that we're at it pls don't laugh. Does anybody know how the "Your skill" is determined, what the different titles are and how much is the minumum needed for each one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 23:37:05 2018 No.19338856 >>19337013 Direct download. Or if you're too unsure and you really don't wanna get fucked in the ass, buy a VPN for one month or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 23:51:55 2018 No.19338931 Why are there so many whiny noobs in here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 23:57:31 2018 No.19338958 >>19338931 I don't know who invited you either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 07:18:54 2018 No.19340769 Fuck bullets that are faster than you. There's no excuse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 08:55:52 2018 No.19341211 >>19340769 Just get better and memorize stuff. There's no excuse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 11:05:35 2018 No.19341867 Is Rorschach in Danmaku static or are the waves aimed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 11:06:28 2018 No.19341870 >>19341867 Pretty sure it's static. And a pain in the ass to deal with with Marisa.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 13:01:09 2018 No.19342490 Easiest lunatic 1cc?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 13:04:08 2018 No.19342506 >>19342490 LoLK

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 13:15:02 2018 No.19342575

>>19331293
Took me like two-three months of admittedly relatively uncommitted played to get through IN properly. Like, about two or so hours a day.

>>19331533
It's not an awful idea but it's worth saying I think I have to internally adjust every time I swap over from the first three PC touhous to the more modern ones.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 13:19:25 2018 No.19342608

Why do people try absolutely to get their 1cc immediately and get angry when it doesn't come within a few days? Give a rest. Enjoy the patterns, laugh at the dialogues, fap to the girls, study for some routes/way of clearing the patterns. A game is all about enjoying stuff, it's all about the journey.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 13:38:06 2018 No.19342701 >>19342608 >Why do people try absolutely to get their 1cc immediately and get angry when it doesn't come within a few days? Because people are used to modern videogames coddling them and Touhou games don't do that.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 19:32:38 2018 No.19345144

Why do people try absolutely to get their pndlist immediately and get angry when it doesn't come within a few days? Give a rest. Enjoy the patterns, laugh at the dialogues, fap to the girls, study for some routes/way of scoring the patterns. A game is all about enjoying stuff, it's all about the journey.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 20:59:46 2018 No.19345563

Tonight I got through TH6 on normal (newbie) after trying a couple dozen times spread out over the last year or so. Immediately after this I tried TH7 on the same difficulty and got through it in two tries. Is it considered less hard? It was really fun anyway. I feel like I'm getting better at weaving between bullets without spazzing out and dying to super stupid things. It's fun when you get in the "zone" and can calmly dodge hard (relative to your skill level) stuff.

I'm just gonna bumble my way through all the Win games on normal and then start from TH6 again while trying for 1cc

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:04:13 2018 No.19345588

>>19345563
As a disclaimed I haven't finished off TH7 quite yet and I don't really care about TH6 but I'd say yes.

TH7 gives you those cherry blossom borders to work with that prevent you from dying, and TH6's patterns will get more difficult the better you do. I think this typically means the shots get faster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:10:08 2018 No.19345617 >>19345563 congrats on your 1cc! i feel like your first 1cc will always be the hardest since that's when you're just learning how to play. who would've thought that the more you played the game, the better you get at it.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:14:46 2018 No.19345639

>>19345588
I never figured out how the border works. It did pop up and save me a few times.

In TH7 it feels like everything is relatively easy until you get to Youmu (is that supposed to be Cirno in the beginning? She's super weak compared to TH6) and it's like the game throws lives at you, whereas in TH6 everything's more intense, even from the start.

>>19345617
I didn't 1cc, sorry if I explained it badly. I've done TH6 & 7 while using available cc's (bad end). I'll continue like this and attempt 1cc once I've played through all the Win games.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:19:30 2018 No.19345660

>>19345639
Basically when you graze and collect enough pink stuff to fill up a gauge you get a temporary shield. That's all it is. Think it also blows up most/all of the shots on the field if you trigger it too so sometimes you might wanna purposefully run into something if it's about to run out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:49:35 2018 No.19345778 >>19345660 You can also use it without running into something by hitting bomb

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:56:54 2018 No.19345799 >>19342701 yea man like totally 2hu is the hardest games in da world us 2bros are sooooooo hardcore

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 22:02:26 2018 No.19345828 File: 79 KB, 640x495, 1529124353133.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19345799 I never said that. Nice shitpost, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 22:07:49 2018 No.19345860 File: 26 KB, 419x296, 1418320509123.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19345799 Kuso post award

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 22:08:00 2018 No.19345861 >>19345799 Touhou is not even hard by bullet hell standards. If you're gonna be a casual, be a polite one. Otherwise, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:19:15 2018 No.19346422 File: 20 KB, 158x55, 1514127731393.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just saw this in a gameplay video, /jp/ I've never seen it before, does it mean you've captured a spellcard more than 99 times or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:25:05 2018 No.19346457 >>19346422 Yep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:32:35 2018 No.19346499 File: 64 KB, 960x720, 1513471468488.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19346457 Thank you. I'll be a master one day, /jp/, you'll see.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:42:58 2018 No.19346560 >>19345861 Ignorant question here. Isn't that mainly because of lack of 2ALL? Let's hypothetically say that you would need to clear LoLK legacy with Reimu 2 times for legit 1cc. It would still be not enough hard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:47:02 2018 No.19346576 >>19346560 Have you even SEEN the patterns in other bullet hells? Comparing Touhou and Dodonpachi is like comparing rainfall and a tsunami.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 01:27:44 2018 No.19346723 >>19346560 2ALL is bad design. Understandable on arcades, but not on PC.

Anonymous Tue Jul 3 01:37:27 2018 No.19346776 [DELETED]

>>19346576
Alright I watched this video and while it seems hard and it doesn't seems to be that much harder. At least compared to harder Touhou games. Bad example? Also isn't stuff like Hibachi supposed to be unbeatable without bombs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaoW2nwIzY

Anonymous Tue Jul 3 01:39:34 2018 No.19346784 [DELETED]

>>19346776
Alright I watched this video and while it seems hard and it doesn't seems to be that much harder. At least compared to harder Touhou games. Bad example? Also isn't stuff like Inbachi supposed to be unbeatable without bombs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaoW2nwIzY

Anonymous Tue Jul 3 01:40:44 2018 No.19346787

>>19346576
Alright I watched this video and while it seems hard and it doesn't seems to be that much harder. At least compared to harder Touhou games. Bad example? Also isn't stuff like Inbachi supposed to be unbeatable without bombs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaoW2nwIzY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 01:55:52 2018 No.19346838 File: 14 KB, 190x33, th410.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19346422 here is what real master looks like

Anonymous Tue Jul 3 05:08:08 2018 No.19347302

>>19346560
>>19346787
What makes the harder arcade shmups more difficult than 2hu is mostly the lack of resources rather than the difficulty of the patterns.
Even the cave TLBs that are technically harder patterns are so retarded hard, that they end up just being resource spam, which just further increases the lack thereof for the rest of the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 13:46:02 2018 No.19349704 >>19345144 LOL XD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 19:14:37 2018 No.19351599 >>19311565 Going with the trend, I'd like Shou and Futo in a game at some point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 20:44:23 2018 No.19352092 >>19351599 >the trend Oh no, it's retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 4 03:39:50 2018 No.19353672 >>19346838 Can you be my senpai? I'm trying to become good at IN like you vcz aniki

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