/tmg/ - Type Moon General

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A thread for the discussion of all things Type-Moon

TYPE-MOON's official site
http://www.typemoon.com/

TYPE-MOON's official site before going commercial
http://www.typemoon.org/

TYPE-MOON Mega Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

Download Links

>Mahou Tsukai No Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
https://nyaa.si/view/943509

>Kara no Kyoukai - The Garden of Sinners
Novel: https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Movies: https://nyaa.si/view/196143

>Tsukihime, Moon Princess
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime Plus+Disc
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya, Moon Princess Ten Nights of Dream
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/291819
Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
https://livingflcl.eva-not-end.com/manga/complete/tsukihime.html

>Tsukihime, Moon Princess doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY

>MELTY BLOOD
Melty Blood PC games
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code - Community Edition (cccaster v3.0a.020)
https://nyaa.si/view/1041549
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
http://www.mediafire.com/file/0w2b3dst1rt1fvd/MELTY+BLOOD+Nightmare+Vol+2.pdf

>Fate/stay night
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2386805
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2432745
Fate/stay night [Heaven's Feel] Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!YxF1BDDZ!eK2Qb9yMNXd-6l8zddeeCA

>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g

>Holy Grail 2.0 - TYPE-MOON PC Games
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Type Moon Mega Folder
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw

Novels

>Decoration Disorder Disconnection (DDD)
https://mega.nz/#!8BJQnaBK!kdrZ107A9Th4amk4RJoX81txOcMwR6OmyaULDtlt1no
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-1/pdf-and-epub-version-2/
>Fate/strange Fake
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/zero
arczyx.blogspot.com/2013/05/fatezero-volume-1-4.html
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Lord El Melloi II Case Files
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e310zzwwyhmw0cw/Lord+El+Melloi+II+Case+Files+Volume+1.pdf
>Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx

Links

>Beast's Lair forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ/edit?usp=sharing
>Fate/Extra Mod (for readability)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2PTcaCCMJ0
>Fuyuki Rebuild
http://tatari.byethost33.com/
>Melty Bread: Melty Blood fansite with videos, strategies, discussions, and more
www.meltybread.com/forums/
>TMdict: Glossaries from works by Type-Moon
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan: A small Type-Moon site
tsukikan.com/

The past >>19133427

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>>19151429
Farting on ciel face.

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>>19151429
Nasu's first character was perfect and the rest have become slowly worse.
After all, you cannot repeat perfection, truly the peak of all existence.
How did he do it?

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>>19151429
Why does Nasu love to recycle characters?

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>>19151553
>Muh Mary Sue.
>Muh Fifth Magic.
>Muh rotating magic circuits.

Ah, yes. Truly a great character.

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>>19151700
Go back to fecalposting.

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>>19151697
Because he got it right once and wanted to repeat it again.

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>>19151700
>only talks about powerwank
>not mentioning that it really isn't a huge outlier
and is within context
>disregarding Ciel's partial immortality, magic reserves and her pile driver
That is only a fraction of what makes up a character.

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>>19151718
It doesn't help that he keeps doing it over and over again.

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>>19151737
Indeed, especially when it it becomes worse for the sake of pandering.

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>>19151553
Touko is better.

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>>19151763
>dirty red

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>>19151763
I disagree.

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>>19151763
Touko is a textbook byronic hero. She is bitter because her entire life was destroyed by a shitty Mary Sue character. Yet, she fights tooth and nails against her fate, even though she has no chances of success.

What a tragic figure. She knows deep down that she can't win against a shitty Mary Sue, and yet she still tries. This is the nature of a human spirit, fighting against overwhelming odds, dying in the dark, unbent.

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>>19151952
She seemed more pragmatic to me, like when she faced Araya after being defeated and said it would be pointless to challenge him again, as the result wouldn't change.

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>>19151429
>Tsukihime Manga
>https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
Are those good quality scans? I remember they were shit and there were efforts to rescanlate the manga.

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>>19151952
This is no longer seething, this is crippling depression.
Touko is decent, but she isn't Aoko.
Deal with it.

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>>19151952
Dumb puppet.

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>>19151952
All this was dictated by who their granddaddy gave his crest to.
Now grow up.

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>>19151700
>implying that the 5th magic is even strong enough to be worth mentioning

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>>19152032
Touko is hotter, that's a fact.

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>>19152263
If you're into grannies who smell like old doll parts then sure.

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>>19152263
Sure, if you're a lesbian.
>>19152215
>muh GO retcon joke even though nothing changed may may
It fell flat, sorry.

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>>19152294
What did he mean by this?

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>>19152263
Agreed.

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>>19152313
You have good taste, friend.

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Nero is literally everything wrong with Fate condensed into one character. Change my mind.

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>>19152313
>>19152358
How cute, and how sad.

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>>19152522
Nah, Mashu/Sieg, Scat and Kiara are the apex of shit.

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>>19151517
>people will still deny Illya is for pedophiles
Just embrace it anons.

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>>19152552
Yeah. Ironic paedophilia is still paedophilia.

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>>19152525
Stop bullying Toukofriends!

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>>19152522
umu

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>>19152552
What are these hideous Raita-tier proportions, delete your post. Literally all artists have to do is trace Hiro's god-tier art, how is this hard?

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>>19152568
They started it a long time ago.

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>>>/a/173788517
Get a life for whomever did this.

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>decide to make a frontloaded praise post for Aoko just once
>becomes a long grind of defending her
I'll be quiet then.

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>>19152639
Not them but honestly, what's the problem anon? Guy just wants an Aoko thread.

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>>19152652
I feel like it's a bait thread intended for the opposite effect, or maybe /a/ is just that hateful these days.
Regardless, I hate any TM thread there as it is never worth it.

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>>19152645
At least it showed you your subjective taste isn't eternal truth.

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>>19152663
Eh, I get that. People have been copy pasting my Tsukihime and FGO posts to re-use in totally different contexts for years and it is kind of annoying, but I guess I've grown used to it.

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>>19152652
It feels so forced that I wonder if it's by a newfriend or is just a bait OP to bring people in the thread

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>>19152666
Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right.
I'm afraid that I can never admit it being subjective.
It's objective.

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>>19152703
Besides, I never intend to insult the taste of others until it is done to me.
And sure it is arrogant as all hell, but I need to reaffirm it occasionally.

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She's so fucking hot.

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>>19152717
Morii is the best TM artist, no question about that.

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Cutie

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Tsuki boys!

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>>19153485
>Nanaya is more popular than Shiki
>Archer is more popular than Shirou
Really makes you think.

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>>19153485
Stupid sexy Nanaya

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>>19153485
How is Nanaya holding that glass?

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>>19152728
This.

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>>19152011
>I remember they were shit and there were efforts to rescanlate the manga.

Why don't you do it?

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Which is better, Aoko or Scáthach?

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>>19152728
Of coarse she's the best, she draws 90% of TM Caren art.

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>>19153899
Aoko for sure, Scath has no personality.

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>>19153899
Aoko, no contest.

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>>19153899
Does anyone actually like Scat for her personality?

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>>19154141
Yes

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>>19153899
>Rinfaces.
>Saberfaces.
>Sakurafaces.
>Fucking Aokofaces.

When will this nightmare ends?

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>>19154172
Every designer does that though

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>>19154172
Isn't Scat also a Rinface then?

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>>19153994
Caren is unironically my favorite girl in Fate.

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>>19153994
I can hear Caren's voice in this image

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>>19154354
Scat definitely is related to Rin.

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Damn. If there's a single thing I've learned from Tsukihime, it's that you can always count on Ciel senpai. How can one girl be so based.

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CIEL IS CUTE

CUTE!

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>>19155166
I want to kiss her thighs!

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>>19155167
Indirect kiss with Arc!

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What spicy sauce does cyborg priest eat?

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I really don't know any sauces. I'm sure we'll find out at some point, it's tradition.

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>>19154962
>Tried to kill you to make a point.
Damnit Ciel. Stop making me fall in love. It's not even your route you nincompoop.

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Around how much does it cost to pay someone to translate an LN volume? I am considering finding someone to translate Apocrypha Volume 5

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Is it Ciels turn? I've been waiting for this. I LOVE CIEL!

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Thought on Foxtail?

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>>19155434
Gawain a best

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>>19155434
Is it TL'd?
I actually kinda wanna read it because I love Gawain and Leo, but I also kinda don't wanna get spoilers for CCC... It seems to be very different from the game though.

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>>19155550
True facts.

>>19155563
It is. The scanslators are actually on point with it, and the recent chapter is already translated.

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>>19155550
Superb taste.

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>>19155434
One of the best Extra spin offs, unironically.

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>>19155286
Ok, forget it, gonna cost over a thousand dollars if I try that

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>>19155434
You mean other than it being non-canon trash?

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>>19155640
For once we have good translators

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>already read tsukihime some time ago
>decided to check the manga out of curiosity
>it's actually fucking rad
wtf, why is it this good
also akiha is still best girl

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>>19156007
It's the best TM manga by a country mile. Fantastic adaptation of the Near side that actually surpasses the VN's Arc route IMO

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>>19153899
They're incomparable, Aoko is too superior and the fans of the latter are very annoying.

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>>19154354
She is more Misaya.
>>19154181
Pretty much, Koyama did it basically as a regurgitation of designs.

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>>19155117
Such a tease.

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>>19156026
>Nero Chaos is [X] years old and immortal, with 666 bodies inside of him
>only on the cusp of producing a reality marble
>Shirou does it in less than 100 years
Explain this bullshit, Nasu

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>>19156192
His ultimate goal wasn't to produce a Reality Marble anyway. I don't think it's common to really try to create one, usually people are born with one or naturally acquire it.

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>>19156192
Sacchin gets her RM Depletion Garden in a couple days.

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>>19156192
Nero lacked severe autism.

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>>19153899
There's a reason why she is called Scat.

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>>19154146
Yeah, even most of leddit got turned off of her after her mats were translated, only /alter/ mouthbreathers and facebook like her.

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What do they have in common?

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>>19156761
Caren > MB Kohaku > Fujino > Tsuki Kohaku > Sakura
Don't @ me.

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>>19156778
>MB Kohaku > Tsuki Kohaku
Wew lad.
Never knew taste could get this bad.

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>>19156761
They are all shit

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>>19152728
I'm more of a fan of Wada Aruko, but I understand if alone in this.

The fact that she draws the juiciest looking titties out of all the Type-Moon artists isn't up for discussion though.

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>>19157055
I love that Wada has a super distinct style, really makes Extra stand out as a series. It's so much better than the trashy mix of styles in FGO.

Not so sure about your second point though, you'll have to post juicy Wada titties to confirm it.

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>>19156795
Not like I really care about either honestly.

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>>19157055
She does draw some nice plump tits.

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>>19157055
I prefer Morii's tits, especially since there are proper nude examples, but it is within subjective range.
Wada did draw one nipple though.

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>>19157152
Now post some non-GO shit tits.

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>>19157152
Carmilla a best

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>>19157158

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>>19157211
Appreciated!
Plump and juicy indeed.

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>>19157211
I didn't know Wada actually worked on stuff besides Fate.

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>>19157073
Yeah, it's too bad Extella is trash. Everyone else already posted something but here anyway.

>>19157155
I think it just comes down to taste in titties after a certain point. Morii's titties are more shapely and seem like they'd be more firm to the touch, while I just love how soft and slighty saggy Wada's titties look. You could poke them and probably bury most of your finger. You can see it with Carmilla above with how the bikini digs into her skin too, as well as other pages in the Fate GO Memo(s). I usually don't even like big tits but that type of shit makes me dick stand motherfucking tall.

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It took me a long time to actually like Wada's art. But the fact that she adds accessories, cute things like nail polish, and draws some damn good bodies, especially tits like that anon above stated, won me over.

I hope Wada works on a VN down the line. Her art's good enough for it.

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Speaking of Wada's art, has the CCC booklet ever been scanned?

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>>19154962
Which was better, Arc's route or Ciel's route?

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>>19156026
Was Shirou vs Gil a rehash of this?

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>>19156778
>>19156795
What's the difference between Kohaku and MB Kohaku?

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>>19157540
I could have but I don't think so. If it hasn't I could scan it myself if I had a scanner

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>>19157858
As much as I liked Arc's route, I preferred Ciel's. Both are good anyways, as are the Far Side ones.

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I seriously hope you don't keep her waiting in the cold, anon...

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>>19158531
>Granny dress.

Urg. Make place for new hotness.

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>>19158603
Delete this.

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>>19158603
absolutelydisgusting.png

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>>19158531
Keeping Arc in the park all night!

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>>19158603
I'm against the hair and skirt, but this guy draws great tits.
If only Takeuchi could do that.

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>>19158666
Lame and mean!

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>>19158668
Sister's orders!

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>>19158667
That's cowtits, not great ones. Thank god Takeuchi hasn't sunk that low.

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Hey guys, what do you think about post-ataraxia stuff? I've read tsukihime, kagetsu tohya, F:SN and F:HA, kara no kyoukai...
But kinda sceptical towards all those seiba variants. Never tried myself.

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>>19158926
There is always Mahoyo, though I'm still holding out for the full TL.

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>>19158926
As the anon said, Mahoyo is good. Otherwise there's nothing that great, some of the rest of Fate is worth looking at only if you wanna see more Servants. Make sure you watch Carnival Phantasm too.

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>>19158926
>But kinda sceptical towards all those seiba variants.

The Artoria Species is like a cancer of the universe.
Someone must reap them out.
Someone must.

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>>19159133
There is an alternative.
Darn it, I didn't want to post EoD unless somebody else started it, but I can't help myself.

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Why does the Mooncell even summon servants? It's ultimate goal is to judge the most worthy human to access its records, right? Adding servants to the mix only makes that harder to judge, if you're trying to assess who is the best human than assess the humans in isolation. This whole gimmick feels like servants just for the sake of servants instead of any legitimate narrative purpose.

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>>19159202
DUDE GRAIL WARS LMAO

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>>19159210
This.
Also DUDE SERVANTS LMAO
The cancer of modern Fate.

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>>19152282
I don't believe most people would be able to smell anything past the tobacco.

Which reminds me, that shit pissed me off so much in the anime adaption of KnK. She would light a cigarette almost constantly then put it out long before it was half used. Even for something so unhealthy, that much waste is appalling.
Of course the other drug related absurdities were also agitating, but that's on a personal level for me rather than a moral one.

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>>19153674
Between his index/middle fingers and his thumb. It's pretty easy as the thumb barely has to touch the tip and just push it into the other fingers for grip.
Although it is kind of absurdly portrayed with how relaxed the hand looks.
Especially with the angle of the fingers, with the base going straight out from the hand, and the two joints barely bent in a zigzag. Seriously try to KEEP your fingers in that position midair, it's kind of difficult even without holding weight.

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>>19159314
That's just superior Nanaya genes at work, anon.

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>>19155943
I think calling something non-canon trash is incredibly ironic on the touhou board. Not that it isn't a valid point, of course, just ironic.

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Why do the Ainsworths distribute their cards to host a grail war? Just dump them all into the Box as soon as you make them, no need to hand them out to people when you're just going to get them all back later. Explain, Hiro

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>>19158926
Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Fate/Extra
Fate/Extra CCC
Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya
Fate/Zero
Melty Blood
CARNIVAL PHANTASM

These are all worth your time. Otherwise tread with caution. Just be aware the gameplay in the Extra series is garbage. I'd also recommend the anime for Prisma Illya for the first 3 seasons (part 1, 2wei and 2wei Herz). They kinda drop the ball after that unfortunately.

I only recently started FGO, so I can't really comment on that.

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>>19159462
Prisma is non canon garbage

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>>19159462
Melty Blood is very pre-FHA, anon. It's pre-FSN, actually, though of course there are newer versions from later.

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>>19159474
I had a lot of fun reading 3rei but I lost interest once the flashback arc finished.

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>>19159462
>Prisma
It actually does have some decent ideas and execution, but the pandering is far too strong.

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>>19159474
>non canon
In a universe like this who fucking cares. Prisma is great.

>>19159486
Oh yeah, my bad. I started with the later entries so I got the dates all mixed up.

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>>19159490
The flashback arc brings the whole manga full circle though, what are you even talking about

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Thanks to the anons who convinced me to read Foxtail yesterday. It's pretty fun so far.

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>>19159518
Why is Yu Narukami in Fate?

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>>19159516
Yeah I agree. I said I lost interest AFTER the flashback arc. The last thing I remember reading was something about Illya installing Gorgon or something like that and I didn't really care about it at that point. I'll probably pick it back up from where I left off at some point but I just have no interest in doing that at the moment.

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>>19159539
Illya saved Beatrice, next up is Sakura

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>>19159526
That's just a cuter version of NIKUI. He's not much of a Chad, really.

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>>19159474
That isn't how the Nasuverse works.

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>>19159539
As the guy who recommended it I can empathize. Though in my case it has to do more with the fact that the author can't seem to release chapters on a consistent schedule than being uninterested.

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>>19159569
Isn't his wrist fucked up?

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>>19159576
Oh, is it? That would explain a lot.

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>>19159553
Question: So Tamamo Lancer in FGO mistakenly believes (you) to be Hakuno and wants (your) dick. But Hakuno is also (you). So am (I) NTRing (my)self, or does it not count as NTR anymore

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>>19159486
>>19159499
Doesn't it go:

>Tsukihime
>Plus-Disc
>Kagestu Tohya
>Melty Blood

>Kara no Kyoukai

>Fate/stay night
>Fate/hollow ataraxia
>Fate/zero

>Fate/Extra
>Fate/Extra CCC

?

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>>19159591
It is NTR on Hakuno who's definitely way more of a character than Gudashit, despite also being a self-insert. Either way it's gacha mobage, the answer is you shouldn't think too hard about it, whatever makes them more money will happen.

>>19159598
What, chronologically? KnK came out before Tsukihime. Otherwise correct.

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>>19159598
Actually:
>Mahoyo draft
>Notes
>KnK
>Tsukihime and the rest
>Melty Blood
>F/SN
>F/HA
>F/Z
>F/E
>Mahoyo
>F/Apoc
>F/E CCC
>F/GO
>F/Extella
>F/Extella Link

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DDD has nothing to do with Fate/Tsuki/KnK?

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>>19159641
What's next for TM?

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>>19159674
Pretty much, though like all things it is still in the Nasuverse and therefore canon.

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>>19159679
Takeuchi buys another exotic car to put stickers on.

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>>19159641
But more than half of this stuff isn't even Type Moon.

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>>19159716
Can you explain?

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>>19159716
Literally all of it is Type-Moon.

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>>19159863
How severe is the danger of Aoko losing control and accidentally using Blue if you make her cum?

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>>19159945
Extremely high, I hope!

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>>19159598
Tsukihime was just cheap porn ad for KnK anon. That's why it got ditched as soon as KnK got popular. Check the dates when Nasu promised a remake and when he dropped plans ("delayed") it was when the first KnK movie got popular.

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>>19159641
>Fate Prototype Draft
>Mahoyo draft
>Notes
>KnK
>Tsukihime and the rest
>Melty Blood
>F/SN
>F/HA & F/Z (were written together)
>F/E
>Mahoyo
>F/Apoc
>F/Fragments
>F/E CCC
>F/GO
>F/Labyrinth
>F/Extella
>F/Extella Link

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>>19159687
It's self contained story, not part of the "Nasuverse". Nasu even explained it in a fucking FAQ recently. That he only used some meme names as references but they aren't the same characters at all.

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>>19159202
Mooncell as concept sucks and shouldn't even exist. Nasu hasn't even properly explained where it come from and why it only exists in one insolated timeline. Like at fucking all. He went in deph and explore, for example, the differences of Fuyuki Grail War and Chaldea in different timelines explaining the rise and fluctances but Mooncell, in general, is just a virtual SAO-tier setting that he made with less effort when "Virtual Sim" world isekai was popular in Japan (that's what fucking is, with the MC a variant of ''''''died'''' and was reborn in another world lmao XDD)

Extra is so fucking cancerous in general. Most of the female characters that appeared there are really fucking bad and embarrassing. The shitty Sakura clones, Kiara, Nero, Tamamo, Ayytera.

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>>19160077
Don't even start with this utterly retarded bait.

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>>19160120
I'm more conflicted about Extra. On one hand, nothing's explained about the Mooncell, why it does HGWs, where does it comes from or what are the differences between regular magic and soul hackers, which feels really poor especially after the detailed background of previous works.

On the other hand, it explored a few things decently, I found myself agreeably surprised by Hakuno's development during Extra, he ended quite interesting for a character that starts as blank state. The way CCC treated the imaginary number space and a HGW cheater in the case of the Mooncell was also entertaining, too bad the Mooncell itself is "lol virtual world" so it hadn't lot of impact once you reflected on it.

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>>19160129
I challenge you to prove me wrong.

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>>19160453
How the hell was it "cheap"? It was the likely the most intensive project Nasu and Takeuchi have ever worked on, producing a full fledged 30+ hour VN with a very small team. They put their all into Tsukihime.
Why would you call a normal eroge "porn" if you're not trying to bait? Do you honestly think Nasu never saw it as much more than that, considering it does have a ton more substance than that?
How the fuck does a VN about vampires "advertise" a web novel that only has a few parallels in common with it? Tsukihime was absolutely a "re-imagining" of KnK attempted in another medium, treating it as an ad would've been incredibly retarded and just proves you don't understand what you're talking about.
Tsukihime Remake was announced in 2008, when most of the KnK movies were already done.
Why would a one-off movie series that is totally done somehow "replace" a VN that has franchise and spin-off potential?

And this is all just addressing the specific points you stated. In general, you're just spouting shit out of your ass with literally no basis and even being incorrect on several accounts. Bait harder.

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Arc, Ciel, or ot3 end?

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>>19160635

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>>19160642
Stop this, Ciel does not deserve to suffer. She's suffered enough.

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>>19160647
But it makes my dick hard.

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>>19160642
She's right, you know. Physical intimacy alone isn't a good argument or selling point there. Practically any woman can just put out.
You need emotional intimacy and experience with one another, which by that point I do believe they were quite on par with each other.

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>>19160655
Fuck off, cuckposter

[Anonymous No.]

So this thread is just for nostalgiafags?

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>>19160682
It's for everything TM outside of fgo, which is 'discussed' on /vg/, as it should be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19160682
About as much as classical dance or console emulation is. You don't HAVE to have nostalgia to enjoy older things.

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>>19159133
>Nasu has a Saberface dedicated to killing all the Saberfaces.
>Nasu has a Saberface dedicated to killing the Saberface dedicated to killing all the Saberfaces.

What is the next step of his masterplan?

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>>19160696
Why though, FGO is part of TM too.

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>>19160708
Since when?

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>>19160710
2015

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>>19160708
What do you want to talk about? How it's destroying the lore and integrity of the IP?

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>>19160708
You can discuss FGO here too, but you'll probably have a better time in its containment board. I'm especially not interested in gameplay or gacha "discussion".

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>>19160708
Because most fgo discussions are about gameplay or doujins, and there's already two threads for that on /vg/.
Feel free to discuss its plot and writing, but older works are clearly superior on these points.

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>>19160722
Extra isn't

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>>19160718
I wouldn't even mind FGO if they actually produced something (besides Fate) outside of it.

Where's Mahoyo 2? Where's the Tsukihime remake? What the fuck ever happened to Girl's Work?

Oh, you're gonna adapt Apocrypha instead? Another GO OVA? Last Encore? Extella? Fucking thanks. I'm grateful Heaven's Feel is getting adapted, but other than that they need to chill out with the Fate and get to fucking work on EVERYTHING ELSE.

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>>19160720
what about the most important thing, waifu discussion?

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>>19160823
Not a fan of FGO original girls at all, and once again you'll probably have a better time with that in /vg/.

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>>19160823
As always.

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>>19160880
Martha and Marie are perfect

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>>19160916
Martha is one of my favorite GO originals actually. Her design is meh, but not atrocious or outright lazy like most. She's basically what Jeanne should've been.
I really couldn't care less about Servants at this point though.

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>>19160823
FGO does have some semen demons, I'll give it that.

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Fecal Ciel Eat Ass Curry Tease Dick Bullying

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Can't believe Mahoyo is still not fully translated.

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>>19161530
It got Aoko in it. Unsurprising.

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>>19161530
Yeah, it's genuinely weird that spin-offs like Strange Fake and Fragments get good translations, but Nasu's main works like Mahoyo and Extra CCC are left behind.

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>>19161550
Books are probably easier for translators to deal with than game code. I think Strange Fake is translated by a Narita fan rather than a TM fan as well.

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>>19157055
I'm probably in a super-minority in that I love Wada's older art. The stuff she turned in for the original Extra, CCC, and its associated artbooks.

As of late, though, I feel I haven't been digging her art at all. The coloring is especially worse off from her older matetial, in my opinion. I mean, just look at her Scat that she turned in for the new Extella. Shit's hideous.

>>19158667
Eh, I like the size Takeuchi gave her for her '11 Melty CG. The one where she's lying down on the grass. That's a good size for Arc. The Manga also draws her quite meaty. Never really quite liked the way the fanartist we're referencing draws her, especially as of late. I think it's the face and thin hair that really puts me off. I like my Arc nice and fluffy.

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>>19161855
Arc in that picture is comfy as fuck.

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>>19161804
Vampires are for _____

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>>19161865
Serving as their faithful slaves!

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>>19161863
Yes, top qt. Would sleep with

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>>19161873
>Satsuki
>submissive

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>>19161882
Of course she's not, dummy. That's why you should serve your vampire overlords.

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>everyone shits on Twilight for being awfully written cringe romance with a vampire
>but Tsukuhime is amazing you guys

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>>19161947
>let's ignore every single aspect of these two stories except the fact that they have vampire romance in some way, and pretend that that makes them equal
Good try.

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Ciel's feces grade 7 (bristol scale)

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>>19161971
kek

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Don't worry, everything is going according to my calculations.

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>>19160085
Proto wasn't even a proper draft when he did it, more just an idea.

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>>19161971

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>>19159945
>things that will never happen, the post

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>>19160696
Nah, GO lore and characters are fine, just not gameplay.

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>>19160892
Scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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>>19161595
Isn't Mahoyo just normal kirikiri(2)? Those scripts are practically plaintext.

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>>19161992
Sion flashes boys in other franchises.

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>>19162024
Every TL project ended up having the most ridiculous problems on Mahoyo.

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>>19162047
In retrospect, we're probably lucky that Herkz was a moron a chose an incompetent to translate it for Commie, because we all know they would have ruined it with shit memes in editing anyway.

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>>19160277
I'm not impressed with Hakuno at all. I feel like people circlejerk on them because they have some generic introspection but really Nasu changed their personality a lot even in CCC depending of your Servant/choice to make them a real character with consistent characterization.

Also the best parts of Extra have nothing to do with the setting (for example the relationship of some Masters and Servants can be done in just any other Grail War). Everything is poorly explained. Where Mooncell came from, the entire 180 degree turn and retcons Nasu pulls from Extra to CCC and CCC to Extella in about everything. It's like he doesn't fucking care about consistent shit.

You can insult FGO execution sometimes and the gacha, but there is clearly the intention of world building and explanations behind everything. There aren't massive retcons (there are some I dislike like the L and R shit of Beasts which was exclusively to get CCC cancer in the game and ironically the most poorly explained part of it involved that overhyped event which let some gaping plot holes in general). Overall isn't as lazily put together as Extra franchise was in general. There are some misgivings but those were present with Extra franchise (Rinfaces and Sakurafaces).

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>>19161947
To compare Edward and Bella to Rapist and Bland Genki Vamp is an insult to Edward and Bella.

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>>19161998
Wrong. It was 1/3 written and Takeuchi's brother was reading it when Nasu stopped writing for reasons. It wasn't just "some ideas", he wrote a manuscript and then wrote down the outline for what's next. Nobody except Takeuchi, his brother and Nasu read it. But Mahoyo was unfinished too (1/3) and wasn't commercialized except to a niche circle of friends.

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Ciel brap

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>>19151429
>Aoko: "Shiki, I see that you've grown up to be a fine man"
>After having attempted to rape half of the heroines in the game cuz dude edge
What did she mean by this?

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>>19162369
Are you the same person who's been baiting hard about Tsukihime for all of today?
Give it a rest anon.

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>>19162369
Tsukihime is pure cringe.

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>>19162369
Its her fetish.

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>>19162399
Yes and he's samefaging, probably a go fag or something.

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>>19162498
Not surprising, things seem pretty boring over at /vg/ and have been for weeks.

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>>19162486
Is this canon?

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>>19160789
How could other Fate projects getting anime adaptations stop Nasu from writing Mahoyo and Tsukihime? Maybe he's working on something else or just taking it easy and playing Dark Souls, but Fate anime aren't whatever is stopping him from making new content

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>>19162519
No.

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>>19162309
Mahoyo was complete, Nasu has decided to expand on it though.

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>>19161855
>I'm probably in a super-minority in that I love Wada's older art. The stuff she turned in for the original Extra, CCC, and its associated artbooks.
I agree actually, especially in regards to the coloring, which seems to be more water-colory rather than the scratchy colors that she does nowadays.
There's no doubt that her old art was more unconventional and weird, though. Especially in regards to the proportions.

[Anonymous No.]

I love Nero! I want to marry and have a family together!

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>>19162868
Sure, but you do know you'll only be a piece in her harem, and that you'll have a high chance of not being the actual father of the kid you're raising, yes?

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>>19162879
Whatever man. She can have her pretty boys and girls. I probably shouldn't pass my own genes on anyway. I just want to love Nero and be with her with a family and do cute things together. Hug and kiss her every night. Tuck our kids into bed and tell them stories with her that drag on because of her rambling. Stuff like that.

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>>19162590
It doesn't. That's why it's so frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

Fun Fact: Ciel's diarrhea can be used as a aphrodisiac

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>>19162590
I wonder how much aniplex and sony breath down their necks for more Fate stuff.

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>>19163080
They're happy as long as they get money, and since they are, there is no need to bother TM.
Nothing they've done so far has been affected by Sony's demands since there is no need.

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>>19162590
Bitterfags are using Fate as the scapegoat, but Nasu hasn't given a fuck about Tsukihime in years, no matter what people claim is his lack of giving a fuck what keeps him from writing that or Mahoyo.

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>>19163167
Nah, I'm a bitterfag myself and I completely agree. There are really no "excuses" for Nasu -- he clearly just doesn't care for writing anything related to Tsukihime or Mahoyo at this point in time.

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What sort of name is Valdamjong anyways?

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>>19163264
The last thing you should think about is the names Nasu comes up with.

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>>19163264
What kind of a name is Nrvnqsr?

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>>19163264
It means "totally not Voldemort", much like Arcueid was derived from Alucard.

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>>19163183
A lot keep trying to blame whatever Fate work he's doing for "keeping" him and say is just due to money. He began FGO project as nothing but his own passion because he wanted to do a social game for years, this isn't new. That was something he had on works since the first draft of Apocrypha MMO game was canceled in 2011, and he anticipated it to be just some 100k or so players, who were deep into Type Moon, with that he wrote the ending of FGO and the outline of the plot, calling his contacts (writers and artists) to join in. He wasn't thinking it'll be some billion-dollar hit at all. Took 5-6 years for his social game to be reconceptualized into a mobage. People act as if this was made quickly. It has to keep up some speed now because of the medium.

Nasu is just slow as fuck.

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>tfw you give so little fucks a voice actor fucking dies before you finish your game

[Anonymous No.]

Do mushrooms and eggplant even go well together?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19163445
Google says sure, there's lots of recipes. But I've never tried any myself.
Such a handle isn't too out of the ordinary though, even if they didn't.

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>>19161530
>>19161547
>>19161550
Why do EOPs feel entitled?

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Don't believe, remake never.

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>>19162590
>>19163009
>>19163080
>>19163167
>>19163183
What if Nasu doesn't care about Moon Princess anymore?

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>>19163569
I doubt he cares about anything other than being lazy and playing games all day. Occasionally relishing in his own pride and pretending that he needs to be a guiding-father over the Fate series (despite having compartively little direct involvement over the last few years and giving the OK to even the most mediocre of writing turned in by his "replacements", and turning in quite a bit of mediocre writing himself)

Can't blame him, actually. Writer block happens. Or maybe it's true laziness and he'd prefer taking it easy nowadays. Couldn't blame him for that, either.

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>>19163569
Then he should stop being a cunt and let FB make a new MB. He doesn't need to write anything just have them copy and paste the story from the previous games.

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>>19161547
Rent free.
>>19163562
>unwarranted self importance
Fuck off.

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>>19163595
Back to /fgog/ with you, secondary trash.

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>>19161530
>>19163562
>>19163595
>wanting not only bad localization, but bad translations of Nasu's work

Hmmm

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>>19163621
>>19163626
>being annoyed at people not learning a new language just to read chinese cartoons

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>>19163662
>read chinese cartoons

I guess some art dilettantes get their kicks critiquing the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, so why not attack Fate/Stay Night too?

Your naïveté is almost charming. The game asks complicated questions. That's what real art, real revelatory art, does. Nasu, like Dante or Homer before him, stirs us toward a new perception of our own humanity.

It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Fate/Stay Night grounds its storytelling in solid plotting instead of messianic symbolism: which is actually harder to pull off and requires more craftsmanship but doesn't impress the pretentious teenagers who think Evangelion is Art.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic.

The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade.

I have read 30,000-word essays from learned men simply unpacking the true end of Shirou waking up as a reborn creature. They haven't even scratched the surface of mastering the material.

What I'm saying is, you are so far above your pay grade here that it's embarrassing. Nasu belongs to the ages, and the ones that come after is will better understand what he's merely hinting at with Fate/Stay Night

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>>19163673
Been some time since this one was posted.

[Anonymous No.]

I really wish Nasu would keep writing H-scenes. They are perfection.

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>>19163420
>not blaming GO for just being trash, further ruining Fate, and bringing a lot more cancer to the fanbase
You don't even need to bring Tsukihime into the equation at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Why didn't Garcher just nuke everyone?

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>>19163780
Tokiomi was afraid of Rider

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>>19163769
Good taste my man, HA had great scenes.

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>>19163827
>Saber bath H scene
Jesus fuck my dick has never been harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>19163827
Not actually an H scene but that scene where Rider used some magic shampoo and it made her drunk and Shirou overly sensitive made my dick explode.

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>>19163838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO8wzIvrKvA

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https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/7749-fateextella-link

>no secret unlockable Arcueid character
It's shit.

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>>19163898
>Arcueid

Do we need another Saberface?

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>>19163905
She already exists, anon.

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>>19163898
Why do you want Arc in a garbage musou?

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>>19163914
Her interactions would at least make me remotely in this.
But that was a joke really, I'm just disappointed there don't seem to be any big secrets and it will be just as bland as predicted.

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>>19163914
Ryougi Shiki and Arcueid Brunetsud were bonus characters in Fate/Extra

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>>19163919
remotely interested

[Anonymous No.]

What are Nasu's best foreign names for characters?

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>>19163920
I know but Extella is garbage, he might just rewrite their characters into something horrible.

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>>19163626
>>19163621
Meanwhile in the fairy land of Nasu.

[Anonymous No.]

Does stabbing Emiya with rule breaker destroy his contract with the world?

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>>19164611
No. Servant/Master contracts work with the individual instance of that Servant. The world has the original version of Emiya recorded.

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>>19164644
But it would at least free that particular instance of Archer, yes?

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>>19164650
What does that matter? Maybe, I guess. As soon as he disappears for whatever reason he'll be sent to the next place where he's needed. Doesn't make any substancial difference.

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>>19164658
I want to rescue his smile

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>>19164679
But his suffering and acceptance of that suffering at the end of UBW is what makes him a good character!

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>>19164688
Yes, but he's suffered enough. We need to think of a way to save him.

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>>19164690
Well, my only suggestion is a deal with the world for someone else to take his place as a CG.
I seriously hope you volunteer, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19164693
That's not even how deals with Alaya work, you just offer yourself up and Alaya accepts

[Anonymous No.]

How would /tmg/ rank the Fate spinoffs? For me it goes

SF >> Prisma > Extraverse > Apo

Don't really like Extra and it's related works, Mooncell feels too much like a trashy isekai and the techno-magecraft feels contrived. Apocrypha just isn't written well. I just wish that SF would move faster, it's never going to finish at this rate.

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>>19164710
SF > Case Files > Extra > Prisma >>> Apocrypha

They're all low tier compared to Fate/stay night to be honest, Fate as a franchisee kinda sucks. SF might be pretty good depending on the rest of it, but it's just more Narita.

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>Gae Bolg's curse makes it impossible to miss by reversing cause and effect. You are about to be killed in one hit, Saber. This is the end.
>*misses*
Explain this, Nasu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19165208
Her fate was to stay the night.

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>>19165256
BRAVO

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>>19165468
Is this a new HF manga chapter?
At least they depict Lancer vs Assassin and deflection of arrows more accurately to the VN.

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>>19165480
Why did the movie change it?

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>>19165505
>WAAAAAH HF SUCKS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACTION AND THE SERVANTS DIE TOO QUICK
Pandering to retards like that is why.

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>>19165505
It's what the other anon said, though I like most of the fight and it doesn't change each character's motivations much at all, I just hate how they portrayed protection from arrows.

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here: I want to read F/ns because after watching the anime adaptions I've come to the conclusion that I'll never fully understand shit.
Is Réalta Nua the one I need to download? Also, I have a shitty old laptop that can barely play 8bit anime, will it be enough to read a vn?

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>>19165532
Everything you want is in the OP

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>>19165532
>F/ns
Kek. Well, I am new and retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19165532
Is that a Dark Rin?
Nice and puffy.

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new
>>19165567

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>>19165208
Nasu likes to explain for paragraphs about how an attack is undodgeable or oh-so-powerful and at the last second they dodge or endure the attack.

I swear, it's his favorite schtick.

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>>19165571
What the fuck, anon.
These threads alreasy have been going up too early, don't fucking do it on page 1. This one will stick around for half a day or more, we really shouldn't move there yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19165532
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/4745-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-PC-version-Mirror-Moon-TL-insertion-project

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>>19165208
Didnt Kotomine use a command spell to make sure Lancer wouldn’t kill anyone? Always figured that was the reason.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm saving this one.

[Anonymous No.]

I just started Tsukihime and I already like Shiki over Shirou. He's so much more casual, and nowhere near as dense.

And the remake needs to hurry up and come out cause the blue tinted backgrounds are kind of distracting.

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>>19166098
Yeah, FSN was written a lot more as "Shirou's story" than Tsukihime is for Shiki, but I still appreciate how different Shiki is. He feels like a combination of Mikiya and Shiki from KnK, very much Nasu's self-insert (especially if you buy the Takeuchi + Nasu in high school theory of the ginger guy and glasses guy best friends that appear in a lot of his works).

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>>19166098
>I just started Tsukihime and I already like Shiki over Shirou. He's so much more casual, and nowhere near as dense.

What's wrong with Shirou?

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>>19166206
>dude saber stop trying to fight I have to be the protector because I'm a guy, now shut up and get behind me while I fight off Lancer with this reinforced piece of wood!
>"you lost me"

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>>19166098
>He's so much more casual, and nowhere near as dense.

Shiki has many issues with its characterization Shirou doesn't have, though you'll only see that later. His only true redeeming quality is the banter with Arc, which makes Arc-route Shiki bearable, but just. Those flaws aren't immediately apparent to newcomers, but I'll promise you, by the end of Tsukihime you'll want to punch him repeatedly in the face.

His character is whiny, falls apart at the slightest problem, self-centered, and legitimately quite dumb. He's a whiny Ikari Shinji clone. To be honest, I much prefer typical shonen protag Shirou to Shinji clone Shiki.

One of the good ideas of the manga was to rewrite almost entirely his character and make him badass, which was certainly needed.

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>>19166098
I prefer Shiki because he's kind of nice laid-back guy with the occasional snarky comment or friendly banter. Shirou's an interesting character, but I had more fun reading Shiki's stories.

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>>19166240
>typical shonen protag Shirou
>Shinji clone Shiki
Damn I really need to re-read F/SN and Tsukihime, it sounds like I missed quite a few things.

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>>19166240
The manga really didn't make Shiki any more badass than the VN, besides taking advantage of its visuals. The character is the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19166111
That meat in kind of looks like a penis, with a large black censor bar over it to hide it from his perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19165208
Luck roll, it's explained in the status screen. Fate is loosely based on DnD.

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>>19166285
>typical shonen protag Shirou
He is dumb, oblivious, brash, does not want women to fight, want to save everyone, and does not know when to stop even at the cost of his life. That is typical shonen protag fare. Sure, there's something more of his character, but he reads very typical.

>Shinji clone Shiki
He's always afraid, does not know how to ask questions, prefers to avoid confrontation, and prone to do stupid things when startled, lashing out at everyone in sight.

The manga changed his characterization by changing his "lashing out" moments to moments of cold badassry, which was very, very needed. I expect the same thing of the remake if it is finished one day.

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>>19166372
If you're talking about his Nanaya side awakening when he lashes out, it's the exact same cold and cruel (but also filled with bloodlust) demeanor in the VN. Like when he methodically stalks Arc, and when he slices apart Nrvnqsr. The entire Nanaya alter ego character was created around those scenes.

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>>19166372
Huh. I remember his lashing out BEING cold badassry in the VN.
Like all of a sudden when under pressure, his apprehension completely dies off, he stops bitching about feelings and what should be, and he becomes an incredibly capable killer.

Guess I have to reread it sometime. Since you feel so strongly about it there must be some hint of it there to see that I just skipped over entirely.

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>>19166098
Shiki has less personality than Gudao in Tsukihime.

[Anonymous No.]

Strange Fake servants vs Apocrypha servants: who's better?

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>>19166403
>Huh. I remember his lashing out BEING cold badassry in the VN.
No, it was him being a petulant dumb kid. That's why he's so unpopular in general.

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>>19166479
If you say so. Again, I'll have to reread it with that perspective in mind.

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>>19166452
How did I know someone was going to say this.

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>>19166240
>>19166372
Did you watch the non-existent anime or something? Because Shiki acting like that in it is one of the major issues fans have with it. The only time he's really lashing out irrationally is in the Hisui route and to a lesser extent the Ciel route, and it's perfectly justified by how hard he's getting mindfucked there.

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Could Medea-buffed Taiga win a grail war?

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>>19166488
Dumb GOfags who probably can't even read GO or understand what constitutes characterization versus jokes/memes are always lurking.

>>19166491
She could arguably take on Ryougi Shiki at least.

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>>19166491
Probably.

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>>19166479
Anon, I really think you should reread the VN.

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I can't believe we have our first transgender character in TM.

I can't wait for them to fuck it up.

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>>19166663
>bulge
Wait a minute.

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>>19166663
How can they fuck it up?
Besides putting her in a shit game, which is already the case.

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>>19166694
He's already skimpily dressed for someone who wished to be man, for one thing. And then there's him claiming he's going to rape Anastasia, despite he himself being a victim of rape.

Already off to a bad start, you see.

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>>19166525
>Taiga walks Sakura home after dinner
>comes back from the Matou household
>sees elf-eared woman in strange clothes lying collapsed on the side of the road
>takes her home at the woman's request
>makes a pact with her without realizing, she just says the words thinking she's humoring a woman who's been rendered delirious from injury
>command seals appear on her wrist
What happens

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>>19166702
>And then there's him claiming he's going to rape Anastasia, despite he himself being a victim of rape
That's actually quite understandable. Once you've been through something unpleasant you know more personally how to inflict it on others. This has been used countless times in storytelling for extra impact, because of how strongly it holds true and how much hate it portrays for the target.

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>>19166663
>has the powers of when she became a man but is summoned as a female
Nice sarcasm.

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Is Fire Girl good?

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>>19166654
No worries. She's just getting changed, mountain boy.

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>>19166952
I hate that there's no romance in Mahoyo

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>>19166663
>first transgender
did you forget da vinci and d'eon?

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>>19166958
Yeah, I also hate that Alice and Soujuurou aren't together yet.

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>>19167062
Da Vinci is a girl because he wants to be a cute girl. d'Eon is genderfluid depending on player perception with a heavy leaning towards female, despite being trans in *real life*, or at least a hermaphrodite.

Caeneus is an actual trans man, who wished to be transformed into a man in life due the trauma he experienced as a woman. And now he's a big tittied, scantily clad chick.

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>>19165538
>>19165588
Thanks

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>>19166773
I completely missed this, wow.

I suppose you're right. Caeneus isn't exactly portrayed as someone you want to root for, let alone his Master. We've got two Lostbelts till we actually get to him and Kirchstaria's (god what a retarded name) Lostbelt, and will thus be able to summon him to see what the deal is.

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>>19166773
This doesn't explain why Shiki loved raping so much.

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>>19167522
I know you're joking, but in Nanaya mode, it's clearly just his bloodlust reaching a boiling (especially against supernatural beings that he was desgined to hurt). Violence = sexual violence is an extremely common trope in vampire stories (goes hand in hand with bloodsucking), so what he does to Arc and Kohaku in bad endings is not "out there at all".
In "normal mode", he only has the dumb rape threat on Ciel, which is literally wimpy Shiki trying to look tough by imposing his "manliness".

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>>19167507
None of the dumb new Master names will be able to top Scandinavia Peperocino.

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>>19167589
Yeah but that one is an obvious fake name that people in universe even acknowledge. Shit like Daybit Void, Kirchstaria, and Marisbilly, and Beryl are dumb as fuck.

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>>19167619
I thought Beryl was pretty normal.

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>>19167636
This is the Nasuverse, not the Negaverse.

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>>19167636
Beryl is odd. Especially since it's so close to Daryl. Honestly the only normal part of his name is his last one, Gut.

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>>19167671
Beryl is a gemstone.

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>>19167686
Fuck me, it actually is.

So he does have a normal name then.

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>>19166462
Well, you got Gilgamesh on one side.

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>>19166462
Apocrypha is trash so they lose by default.

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>>19166462
Both are garbage, but Strange Fake is even more so since it tries to seem more canon by including Gilgamesh and Waver.

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>>19168659
is apocrypha worth seeing? or just skip