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Visual Novel translation status


>Aiyoku No Eustia - 42.42% Translated, 29.62% edited
Amagami - "Script translation done. 611/2308 original edition scenario scripts edited (26.5%)"
Clover Day's - 100% translated, editing + TLC still to go
Chaos;Head Noah - Fan translation ongoing
Dragon Knight 4 - Being translated
Fate/Extra CCC - 17% translated
Gakuen Heaven 2 - Demo released
HaraChuchu - Kukuri + Mei routes patch released
>Haruka ni Aogi, Uruwashi no - 3% (1791/68206) translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 Append Discs - Kyou and Maya scenerios released
Heart no Kuni no Alice - 99% translated, 4th partial patch released
Hoka no Onna - 100% translated, looking to go official
Junketsu Megami-Sama - partial patch released
Kanojo to Ore to Koibito to - 8% (2443/28887) lines translated
Koiken Otome Revive - 13% (3528/27095) lines translated
>Lover Able - 100% translated, 38.9% edited
Maji Koi A-3 - 32/95 scripts translated
Majo Koi Nikki - Through TLC + Editing, QC remains, prologue patch released
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3 semi-active projects, one project released ch 1-7
Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
Musumaker - 52.0% translated
Nanatsuiro Drops - Partial patch with episodes 1 and 2 released
Nursery Rhyme - 100% translated, technical issues resolved, being edited now
>Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts through TLC+Editing, 257/268 scripts finalized
>Pure Pure - 72,66% translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 116405/257436 (45.2%) characters translated
>Shin Koihime Musou - 93% (101700/108888) translated, 28% (30054/108888) edited
Tsui Yuri - 30% (2687/5872) QC
Tsuriotsu - 7637/31643 (24.1%) lines translated, 4080/31643 (12.9%) lines edited
Ushinawareta Mirai o Motomete - 34% (11889/35476) lines translated
Watashi wa Kyou Koko de Shinimasu - 12% (269/2265) lines translated
Witch's Garden - 45% (24241/53677) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.88%, Motoka 51.62%, Common and Kazuha fully edited


Official work

MangaGamer
Fata morgana fan disc - May 17th release
Kuroinu - Chapter 3 May 31st release
Koropokkur - Kickstarter started, September release
Higurashi Hou - chapter 5 released. Chapter 6 in Beta, chapters 7-8 through TLC+Editing, answer arcs to be released within a year and Rei arcs started
Bokuten - Port in progress
SukiSuki - In Beta
Maggot Baits - 80% translated, 38% edited
Hapymaher - In testing
Hadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked up
Shiei no Sona-Nyl - 40% translated
Hashihime - 100% translated and edited
Trinoline - 91% translated, 56% edited
Evenicle - In testing
Damekoi - "Beta testing complete, in scripting"
Room No.9 - Picked up
Sengoku Rance - 100% translated and edited
Rance Quest - 90% translated, 74% edited
Sweet Switch - Testing complete
Bitter Exclusion - 100% translated and edited
Overdrive's Final title - English release planned
Amatarasu Riddle Star - 83% translated, 10% edited
Steam Prison - 78% translated, 78% edited
Kindred Spirits on the Roof: Full Chorus - Picked up

JAST
Princess X fandisc - Picked up
Flowers - Volume 2 Winter release, 100% translated
Katahane - Fully translated, in editing + QC, Early 2018 release
Majikoi - 2018 release
Trample on Schatten- 2018 release, Translation 100%, in editing, porting complete
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sumaga- Fully translated, 70% edited
Machine Child - Announced
Sweet Pool - Picked up

Age titles with various publishers
>Muv Luv Alternative - Released, work started on the R18 patch
>Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Localization finished, technical work remains
>Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - Translation ongoing
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up

Aksys
7'scarlet - May 25th release
Haitaka no Psychedelica - June 29th release

Spike Chunsoft
428: Shibuya Scramble - Summer release
Steins;Gate Elite - 2018 release

>> No.19016625

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
>2236 A.D. - Released
>Koikuma - Will be back in QA shortly
Dracu-Riot - Through 1st round of QA, fixes from QA next before more QA
Maitetsu - In QA, needs testing
Nanairo Reincarnation - 100% translated, waiting on a third party for engine work
Baldr Sky - 50% translated, Combined release of Dive 1 + Dive 2 in mid 2018
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 100% translated
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - 50% translated
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 33% translated
Miko no Kanata - Picked up
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
CyberRebeat - QA done, need fixes
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - Picked up
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Senren * Banka - Picked up
Ninja Girl - Announced
Island Diary - Announced
Love Duction - 100% translated, needs engine work
>Koi ni, Kanmi o Soete - 70% translated
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up
Secret Project 1 - In QA
Secret Project 2 - 100% translated, 99% edited, needs engine work
>Secret Project 4 - 30% translated, needs engine work

Frontwing
>Momoiro Closet - Released
Sharin no Kuni - Targeting a May release
Island - 100% translated, 40-50% edited, 2018 release
2 upcoming secret announcements

Sol Press
>Newton to Ringo no Ki - May or June release dependant on the Steam review process, demo released
Sakura Sakura - Released delayed to beyond April, demo released, remain work includes finishing the increase in resolution
Yotsunoha - July 27th release, 60% translated, 30% edited

Nekonyan
>Hello,good-bye - 25% translated, Auguest release
>Sanoba Witch - 30% translated, 10% edited, October release
Fureraba ~Friend to Lover~ Mini Fandisc - Fall release
Suki to Suki to de Sankaku Ren'ai - Early 2019 release
Melty Moment - Aiming for a release next Winter


Cherry Kiss
>Tsundere Idol - Aiming for a release by the end of the month, dependant on the Steam review process
Harem Guild - Upcoming release

Other
Tayutama 2 - May release, R18 patch planned but may not be ready at launch
Hemoimo - Dropped by SakuraGame and no longer being released on Steam, upcoming Fakku release planned. Currently waiting on beta build
Punchline - Summer 2018 release
Magical Charming - Release planned
Song of Memories - 2018 release
>Neighbor - 2018 release, 45% translated
E-Gene - 1st entry planned for Fall 2018
Venus Blood Frontier - Kickstarter planned
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Seven Days - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
Harumade, Kururu - Seems to have an English release planned
Monmusu - 2018 release
Taisho Alice - Volume 1 released
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.19016628

Just as a quick heads up, with Sekai not having their ACEN panel until next Sunday, this thread for next week will be delayed until Sunday evening.

>> No.19016662

>>19016624
>SukiSuki - In Beta

Only two more years to go!

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Is this moogydono?

>> No.19017125

>>19016625
Monmusu is actually out by the way, on the other hand, it cannot be called an actual VN

>> No.19017389

>>19017125
it cannot be called a game either, it's just Sayori
CG

>> No.19017480

>Tsundere Idol - Aiming for a release by the end of the month, dependant on the Steam review process
>nukige
>Steam review process

What is wrong with this industry...

>> No.19017484

>>19017480
The customers

>> No.19017494

I think I die before Maggot Baits drops, it's been over two years now. What the actual fuck, MG announced the Rance games like a year after Maggot Baits, yet SR is already 100% translated and edited and Rance Quest is also pretty much done. JUST

>> No.19017499

>>19017494
Back to /vn/

>> No.19017502

>>19017494
technically it's been less than 2 years and translate didn't start until months after its announcement

but it's to be expected since they handed it to a guy with way more responsibilities in the company than just translation, which was probably not the best call since on top of being a lengthy title, it's also pretty difficult to translate since the writer is psuedo-Masada

>> No.19017782

>Evenicle - In testing

This has been in testing for fucking centuries. When are those lazy cunts going to release it?

>> No.19018028

>>19016628
MG panel is Friday May 18 9:45 - 11:45 CT.

Wait, why is it 2 hours? Maybe they have a special guest or something?

>> No.19018202

>>19017494
Rance Quest was already partially done before hand and just TLCed that part, and even though they said they are doing Sengoku from scratch it wouldn't surprise me if they still used the fan patch as a reference making things easier/faster.

>> No.19018279

>>19018028
Wait, I misread it. The panel is 1 hr 30 min from 9:45 to 11:15. Maybe they have more announcements than usual?

>>19018202
Arunaru was pretty fast when translating Suki Suki and Haruka IIRC. SR being translated as fast as it was isn't surprising.

The main issue in MG seems to be either programming or beta testing, assuming they aren't already planning to announce the release date soon. I still think it will likely release by August.

>> No.19018301

>>19017480
The Tsundere Idol Kickstarter gave the lowest tiers the choice between Steam and Fakku, for those who choose just one they went with Steam by more than a 4 to 1 margin.

>>19018279
MG had a 90 minute panel last year's Anime Central at as well, despite just having two announcements. They tend to put a heavier focus on reviewing titles they have released within the previous year, so they can always fill out a longer time slot.

>> No.19018367

>>19018202
>it wouldn't surprise me if they still used the fan patch as a reference making things easier/faster.
Given that it's Arunaru translating I really doubt he'd use the old translation at all. So I hope people aren't hoping it'll be just an updated version of the fan patch.

>> No.19018385

>>19018367
He's eager to put his nameshit all over it. No one's doubting that.

>> No.19018413

>>19018202
I'd think that for any professional, bringing someone else's work into the equation is only going to make things harder.

>> No.19018447

>>19016624
The 13th Month VN kickstarter just succeeded.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/642344002/japanese-rpg-legends-team-up-new-dark-fantasy-game/description

>> No.19018475

MG did an interview about the Fata Morgana fandisc.

http://www.thedrastikmeasure.com/2018/05/12/fata-morgana-a-requiem-for-innocence-interview-1/

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>>19018447
I see that a king wrote this story.

>> No.19018547

>>19018385
And who can blame him. You pronounce to and too the same, so you only need one of the spellings in English. The only reason some use both, is because they haven't properly translated English into English.

>> No.19018569

>>19018547
What the fuck does that have to do with Archfriend?

>> No.19018608

>>19018547
We're not talking about alternate spellings.

>> No.19018760

Archfriend is the correct translation

>> No.19018790

>>19018569
>>19018608
You need to tell me when we aren't talking about the usual topics.

>> No.19018793

>>19017480
You can thank Nekopara for these clowns trying to sell nukige without the porn in it on steam.

>> No.19018814

>>19018793
And Winded Cloud for the flooding of the Steam market. Since Sekai in involved in both, isn't not a lie to say they are ruining VNs in the West.

>> No.19018821

>>19018790
That is the usual topic for Rance.

>> No.19019032

>>19018760
It is a top tier pun

>> No.19019112

>>19019032
Yeah, changing everything was definitely worth it. Not.

>> No.19019877

>>19017782
Jap programming you mong, I've been saying this since 4 threads ago. Doddler even posted on twitter a classic example of a "for-ever loop" that i'm 100% sure belongs to Evenicle.
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/991453691461824512

>> No.19020374

>>19016624
>Kuroinu - Chapter 3 May 31st release
Kuroinu will be complete after this, right?
Will there be some kind of complete package at a slightly reduced price or something?

>> No.19021692

Does anyone have the updated version of Muv-Luv's 18+ patch? The one on nyaa triggers error 86.

>> No.19021966

>>19020374
it will be complete, but i doubt they'll do a 'complete' release since it would require an extreme amount of work to put everything back in order due to MG's release being horribly broken apart and rewritten to allow for 3 heroines each part even though it makes no fucking sense story wise and you just jump to random parts of the story.

>> No.19022026

>>19021966
They just used the Japanese version of Kuroinu where they broke it apart.

https://vndb.org/v3706

I doubt anything was changed when Liquid initially broke it apart on their side, so MG might just use the translation to bring over the completed ERE version made after that.

>> No.19022041

>>19022026
I really don't remember the japanese remaster being THAT jarring though. Like it's super fucking bad to the point you have NO idea what the fuck is going on in MG's release other than some poor slut is going to be raped shortly.

>> No.19022054

>>19022041
Probably because it's not the remaster. There are 3(or technically 5) releases of Kuroinu.

The original Kuroinu
The version of Kuroinu that split the story into three parts that focuses on the countries. (This is the one that MG translated)
The Erotic Remaster version of Kuroinu

>> No.19022089

>>19022054
the split release was considered a remaster was it not? It included a bunch of additional things over the original just not as many as the 'complete' remaster.

>> No.19022402

>>19016624
>Muv Luv Alternative - Released, work started on the R18 patch
>Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Localization finished, technical work remains
>Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - Translation ongoing

Holy shit why are they so fucking slow? What the fuck are they waiting for it's just a fucking fan disc why is it taking so long? I really hate these "pro" translation companies.

>> No.19022479

>>19022402
It would be nice if it was because they're also working on Kiminozo.

>> No.19022534

>>19022089
From what I can tell from the version on DMM (which is the split release), it's a Director's Choice Edition, which is just splitting the original into three versions. There's nothing there about it having any added features.

>> No.19022888

Announcement slots when?

>> No.19022966

>>19017494
Rance is selling really well it's going to get top priority above everything else. Their first release was hitting the first place sales chart for three months straight before it tapered off.

But I do understand your frustration especially with Higurashi and Maggot Baits. I am still hoping for fall of this year. But it looks like it may be longer.

>> No.19022974

>>19022534
wouldn't make sense to re-release a game 3 years later into 3 different parts with no additional content, yeah? Generally whenever a VN gets a re-release there were some sort of notable changes or additional content.

>> No.19023023

>>19022966
>top priority
>RQ still won't be out until mid next year at the earliest because of MG's retarded release schedule
t-thanks

>> No.19023024

>>19022966
Higurashi has been a disaster compared to Umineko.

First, the Higurashi project took forever to get its translation going due to a series of incompetent translators before finding someone good. There was also the issue of sprites, since the license holders of the console art wouldn't let them be used at a price MG could afford, so MG comprised and had the Caramel Box artist to draw his own sprites and then just made the games easy to mod, since they know just about everyone wants the console art.

The current issue is that Doddler's very busy on multiple projects, so finding time to port each chapter of Higurashi is taking a ton of time. They probably should've only licensed the original 8 chapters, instead of the 14 chapters that make up Hou. Odds are sales will really drop off once they original chapters are out.

Now compare all of this to Umineko. It was released in a much more timely manner and used the existing pachinko artwork, since they could afford it despite running into the same issue as with the Higurashi sprites. By releasing it in only 2 parts, Doddler only had to do 2 ports, so it took less time. And they even managed to get Golden Fantasia out already as well.

>> No.19023050

>>19023023
Not necessarily. They have pushed certain projects to the front of the line before as well. Of course they'll still likely space Alicesoft titles a few months apart to prevent them from canniblizing each others sales.

>> No.19023061

>>19023024
>Doddler only had to do 2 ports, so it took less time.

Doddler didn't work on Umineko, hence why it uses ponscripter and not unity. Umineko was handled almost entirely by the witch hunt if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.19023070

>>19023050
Evenicle is fucking STILL in testing, so after it finally comes out Sengoku will go into months of testing and by the time it comes out it's already the end of the year. Seems pretty realistic to me.

>> No.19023095

>>19023070
They appear to have run into some major bugs in Evenicle, but such bugs might not be present in Sengoku or Quest.

>> No.19023109

>>19023070
That would be my guess too, assuming Evenicle came out at about mid-late summer that is. I doubt Sengoku or Rance Quest will be that much easier to beta test than Evenicle.

In comparison, Rance 01, 02, 03, and IX will be significantly easier to beta test due to being not being sandbox like Sengoku or being quite as big as Rance Quest Magnum. Rance 10 is a completely different story with a ton of variables to juggle despite not being quite as sandbox as Sengoku and having a huge script that makes Clannad look puny, but MG will just have to deal with it when they get there.

>> No.19023124

>>19023109
It's scary to think about how long X will take.

>> No.19023157

>>19023061
>Umineko was handled almost entirely by the witch hunt if I'm not mistaken.
correct

>> No.19023233

>>19022402
Lol you may want to learn Japanese and read. Because Sekai is on the case.

>> No.19023271

>>19023070
>Mah Evancile

It was explained earlier and the last 4 threads that there is a huge bug in the game. Rance hardly has any.

>> No.19023276

>>19023024
I agree it should have went with 7 chapters and called them by separate names like Umineko did. But then again hindsight is 20/20.

>> No.19023448

>>19023233
IIRC they are just the publisher and aren't doing the translation work.

>> No.19023473

>>19022974
Technically, the change is to split it up into 3 parts as a low price edition. Also, if you only like certain heroine designs, this will help you only get what you like.

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>>19023448
considering they laid off the project manager for the translation team, I'm not sure if they even kept the original translation team. We'll have to wait and see if they've been replaced when the photon series comes out since there's been absolutely 0 communication since the manager was laid off.

>> No.19023651

>>19017494
Its beeb 5 or 4 years since Sumaga/Bokuten was announced by JAST/MG, this is nothing anon.

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>>19023486
The localization director said the team is basically the same.

>> No.19023663

>>19023652
yeah but sekai project is running shit now. I don't believe for even a single moment that the team is 'unchanged'.

>> No.19023747

>>19023651
Sumaga was announced in 2011, so it'll be 7 years in July.

>> No.19023790

>>19023663
Well there's nothing to say then if you think the people involved are lying.

>> No.19024017

>>19023790
that person isn't involved anymore, so what he said might have been correct at the time but now things may be different which isn't uncommon for stuff once sekai project gets involved. I also can't think they're lying because whoever is running the show now hasn't said a single thing. The only updates we've gotten in the past year is "codex soon, physical products soon" aside from them saying they're "Starting on the +18 alternative" and that the other half of their first photon project translation is done.
I mean yeah it's nice knowing those last 2 things but it's not really news is it? Alternative should have been done like 6? months ago and the translation team finished with alternative ages ago so it makes sense they'd be working on the fandiscs which were next in line on the todo list that was announced 3+ years ago.

>> No.19024052

>>19024017
>that person isn't involved anymore
His twitter profile (>>19023652) still lists him as the localization director.

>> No.19024069

>>19024017
Also, I'm not necessarily trying to defend anyone. I don't have any idea what's actually going on anymore than you do. I'm just throwing out the information that's available. Whether it's correct or not I can't say.

>> No.19024076

So, is the translation of Dies Irae good? I've heard differing opinions on it, but none really concrete.

>> No.19024080

>>19024076
it's fine.

>> No.19024092

>>19024076
it's fine but they got a ton of backlash for refusing to create a 'complete' edition after promising to do so after making the excuse "oh when we said we'd create a version with the additional content AND H-scenes, we meant we'd be translating the version with additional content AND the version that has H-scenes" Even though they very clearly stated during the kickstarter that they'd be making a version that had both.

>> No.19024100

>>19024076
>>19024092
this. the biggest problems with Dies are the shitshow that Light caused, not really so much in the localization itself (which had a lot of typos and some mistranslations, but which are supposedly fixed now)

don't buy it. don't support Light. they're faggots.

>> No.19024130

>>19024100
The most you can say is that they misadvertised what they were going to do. They still provided both versions of the game that are sold in Japan.

>> No.19024423

>>19024100
Localizing Senpai as last name is not fixed.

>> No.19024429

>>19019877
How does Doddler even stay sane

>> No.19024452

>>19024429
The same way mangaka and animators stay sane even with shitty wages and tight schedules.
They're doing their "passion". Though in his case he's being exploited like a whore.

>> No.19024624

Say, who was the translator for SubaHibi? and is the translation good?

>> No.19024681

>>19024624
translation is solid but you can't get it completely uncensored unless you pirate it.

>> No.19025155

>>19024624
Lead translator was vvav, not sure how much he retranslated because someone else worked on it at first. The translation is decent to good but not awesome.

>>19024681
They only censored a CG that appears for a couple lines, literally not even a full minute of reading. You can download the CG itself and put it on the official release. This link should work, pulled it from a VNDB thread. http://downloadani.me/aj5utbm7pvko/SubaHibiDoggy.rar

>> No.19025170

>>19025155
Is that the updated one? The original got DMCA'd by frontwing. Yes Frontwing DMCA'd a patch that literally added a single CG.

>> No.19025178

>>19025170
It should work, but I haven't checked myself. If anyone really cares about that CG they can just search it up anyway, it doesn't really matter whether it's present.

>> No.19025187

>>19025178
Hi frontwing dev.

>> No.19025258

Is MangaGamer not going to be at Anime Central or something? They don't seem to be on the schedule and their announcement site hasn't been updated.

>> No.19025301

>>19025178
It really is just a single cg, but if it's -just- a single CG why would they put so much effort into removing it AND DMCA'ing any restorations of it? It's very clearly important if they're trying so hard as a company to keep it removed, they're going far beyond normal measures needed to keep themselves legally secured since a developer can't be held responsible for illegal third-party modifications to their software that result from the ADDITION of items to their title.

>> No.19025310

>>19025301
It's a dog fucking a girl CG. If you think that's important to your enjoyment, then by all means add it.

>> No.19025312

>>19025258
https://guidebook.com/guide/115415/event/19317570/
>>19025310
You tried to prevent people from adding it.

>> No.19025316

>>19025301
It's important to them as a company, nothing to do with its relevance in the visual novel.

>> No.19025327

>>19025312
>https://guidebook.com/guide/115415/event/19317570/
My bad, I must have overlooked that. Still weird the announcements page isn't up yet though.

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>>19025310
it is CRITICAL to my enjoyment of the novel. But the real issue is that it shows that Frontwing is more than willing to compromise on censorship and even threaten legal action against anyone who is willing to undo their censorship. It's no longer a "well if you want it back in just add it back in" issue since the company is willing to legally prosecute you if you do.
I understand that where Frontwing is stationed Bestiality is illegal and as a result they had to remove it from their title and explicitly state that such content is illegal, but they're not required by law to search external websites and imageboards for fanmade restoration patches that ILLEGALLY modify their title and issue DMCA requests on them. That's literally just them being dicks.

>> No.19025487

>>19025341

Frontwing is just in the western visual novel scene to cash in and them doing a DMCA on the fan restoration patch shows how much they ONLY care about steam and the steam crowd.
They butchered Pure Girl and Innocent Girl and tried to cash in on the Huniepop craze, kickstarting each of their releases, releasing a nukige on steam and so on.

Subahibi would have been much better received, it would have sold better and the best possible solution would have been to sell the complete uncut version on MangaGamer, JAST(though I doubt JAST would allow bestiality on their site). But no, the steam only crowd is important to them.

They couldn't even be bothered to release Momoiro Closet mosaic free, because making 1 version and 1 patch instead of 2 separate ones is cheaper.

>> No.19025544

>>19025487
Momoiro Closet is also fairly overpriced. It's around 10 hours long and they're charging $30 for it. No wonder it has almost no reviews. People are going to wait for a major discount.

Chuusotsu is also a bit overpriced, since it's all ages and only around 10 hours, yet charges $20. Problem is the devs insist it's 15-20 hours, but unless you're an ESL or almost illiterate it won't take you that long to read it.

>> No.19025558

>>19025544
>VN
>Overpriced
Who would have thought?

>> No.19025570

>>19025487
momoiro closet has a mosaic free release though. you need to download the steam version and apply the patch.

>> No.19025571

>>19025558
I don't mind full price titles that are long, say 25-50 hours. But less than 20 hour titles trying to charge high prices is just laughable.

>> No.19025580 [DELETED] 

>>19025487
>They couldn't even be bothered to release Momoiro Closet mosaic free, because making 1 version and 1 patch instead of 2 separate ones is cheaper.

Is the vndb page incorrect then? https://vndb.org/r54691 claims that the Steam patch released outside of Japan was "fully uncensored", which is what they have historically used to mean mosaic free.

>> No.19025873

>>19025558
If you can't sex tax the games, there is no point in selling them at bargain price.

>> No.19025944

>>19025873
In the case of Momoiro Closet, its high price compared to its short length has led to people not buying it until a massive sale.

>> No.19026136

>>19025487
>Frontwing is just in the western visual novel scene to cash in and them doing a DMCA on the fan restoration patch shows how much they ONLY care about steam and the steam crowd.
>They butchered Pure Girl and Innocent Girl and tried to cash in on the Huniepop craze, kickstarting each of their releases, releasing a nukige on steam and so on.

The DMCA notice was likely driven by the same paranoia that caused them to censor the CG in the first place. As to the rest, I would agree that Frontwing jumped into the market only caring about Steam, however I would change that to they have been chasing the Steam Craze numbers (which have managed to elude them), and thus put little concern for non-Steam platforms since they concluded they wouldn't get those types of numbers off of Steam. They described Corona Blossom as "way under-performing our expectations" a month after release for only selling a few thousand copies at the time, because they were expecting to sell Nekopara like numbers as a Nekopara clone. Obviously Time Leap Paradise Super Live and Purino Party were designed to be copied off of other things which did well on Steam using existing assets from their other VNs, and we know that they decided on breaking Phantom Trigger into volumes shortly after they got into the market thanks to the one Phantom Trigger interview.

That said, they look to be putting Momoiro Closet on Jast as a standalone release as well, which would be their first venture into doing so aside from the Corona Blossom paid patches, so they'll get information about what kind of sales they can do off of Steam. It should be clear to them by now that the Steam Craze numbers they were chasing are gone so I wouldn't expect another Purino Party type release out of them, but the question is do they stick around in the market now that they are here or do they gradually shut down their Western publishing operations?

>Subahibi would have been much better received, it would have sold better and the best possible solution would have been to sell the complete uncut version on MangaGamer, JAST(though I doubt JAST would allow bestiality on their site). But no, the steam only crowd is important to them.

If Frontwing and Jast were fine with the CG, then it would already be there as Jast is distributing the patch. J-List does sell the hard copy of Beat Blades Haruka, but Jast did remove controversial content from Starless/Shiny Days, so it is hard to get a read on what they would have allowed for a patch on their website. While availability off of Steam may have helped sell some extra copies, it is difficult to believe that if they had released a version with that one CG on say MG that it would have dramatically moved the needle on sales, and it probably wasn't viewed as a viable option anyways as if they were paranoid about the legal aspect they wouldn't have wanted to include it no matter where it was released. Dies Iraes was a similarly high profile title with MG having a good release of it, but it didn't seem like some overwhelming seller for them, so it seems unlikely that Subahibi would have either.

For what it is worth, Subahibi looks to be between 4-5k owners on Steam based on where Steamspy left off last month (around 1k from Kickstarter), and the review ratio (43 of 250 reviews came from off-Steam purchases, mainly the Kickstarter, while the rest were purchased on Steam) lends support to those Steamspy estimate. It also is still selling and will likely have a very long tail (similar to but stronger than Fata Morgana), as the concurrent users charts have been quite active since release, with yesterday's daily peak having 24 concurrent users and the concurrent users chart has remained active since launch. Of course though if Frontwing was counting on Fruit of Grisaia like numbers when they picked it up, it still would be a disappointment.


>They couldn't even be bothered to release Momoiro Closet mosaic free, because making 1 version and 1 patch instead of 2 separate ones is cheaper.

They actually did create two patches though, one being distributed through Jast that is mosaic free, and one being distributed through Frontwing with mosaics. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/frontwing/expose-your-inner-otaku-with-visual-novel-momoiro/posts/2182847

>> No.19026263

>>19025944
Dropping the listed price hasn't gotten nearly the response that it used to, with many $15 titles doing poorly. I'd be really surprised if halving its launch price would have doubled its launch sales here, and a higher launch price lets them do more significant sales down the road.

>> No.19026368

>>19025944
I'd say that has more to do with everyone having 200 games in their Steam backlog. You only day 1 purchase things if you want to send a point to the publisher.

>> No.19027475

Hey so, I know Saya no Uta is old news now but, there's been something that has bothered me for a long time now in that, I vaguely remember the ending to be a bit different or at least more to it then the English release when I played it many years ago using the fan translation, but I can't find any information on it even on the Japanese side. It went something like Fuminori coming back home and greeted by his kids after the New World Ending I believe, but I can't find it anywhere in the game. Was there an epilogue of sorts like that or am I going insane?

>> No.19027514

>>19027475
>or am I going insane?
that

>> No.19027524

>>19027475
Better see a shrink, bud.

>> No.19027582

>>19027475
Saya is laying eggs on your brain.

>> No.19027917

MangaGamer's Top 5 Weekly Chart:
1. Magical Marriage Lunatics
2. Da Capo 3 R X-Rated
3. D.S. Dal Segno
4. Fallen ~Makina and the City of Ruins~
5. Da Capo 2

Magical Marriage Lunatics seems to be doing pretty good despite people having mixed reactions about it.

Hardcopy weekly ranking:
1. The House in Fata Morgana Deluxe Edition w/OST
2. The House in Fata Morgana First Print Edition
3. The House in Fata Morgana -THE ART- Hardcover Artbook
4. OZMAFIA!! Limited Edition
5. Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome Hardcopy Bundle

Fata Morgana still dominating the hardcopy chart for weeks now, while the digital download version of the Fata Morgana fandisc still hasn't shown up in the weekly chart.

>> No.19027974

>>19027475
I just looked at the ending of the Japanese version and I can tell you it's the same. The only difference is that she is a Experiment from the lab rather than an alien that went on Earth this was a choice made by Jast themselves on the difference.

>> No.19027980

>>19027917
Fata Morgana is something I have been meaning to play for awhile.

>> No.19027996

>>19027917
I know plenty of people skeptical about the Fata Morgana fandisc, since Morgana's story was already told so thoroughly in the main title.

>> No.19028001

>>19027974
That's a pretty major change to Saya's origin that JAST made for the heck of it. One is humanity doing something stupid that results in humanity getting wiped out, while the other is an outside force wiping out humanity.

>> No.19028011

>>19027974
What the fuck? How can they touch the story?

>> No.19028016

>>19027917
>despite people having mixed reactions about it.
I don't remember seeing many complaints.

>> No.19028028

>>19028016
People are shitting on it here, on vndb, and on fuwa. I don't go to plebbit so I don't know about them.

>> No.19028088

>>19027974
Can we get any confirmation of this. Can anyone send a screenshot.

>> No.19028122

>>19028016
I've complained about it here a few times. I liked PE decently enough but MML just feels boring as shit, and, weirdly enough, the CG art actually seems worse in a lot of cases than it was in PE, which is just strange (though neither games have good art)

>> No.19028225

>>19027974
Huh? Wasn't it both? The doctor from the hospital summoned her from another dimension or whatever.

>> No.19028230

>>19028016
Rather than awful, quite a few people just found it boring and underwhelming compared to other moege.

>> No.19028239

>>19028230
Yeah, it's not straight up horrible, just incredibly mediocre with nothing really making it stand out. It reminds me of Koiken Otome in that regard.

>> No.19028248

http://mangagamer.org/announcements/
Website is updated.

>> No.19028267

probably minor stuff, hope one of them is a nukige

>> No.19028273

>>19025327
Yeah, not having it by last Friday is one thing, but not even by the first workday of the week of their announcement is a bit weird too. Whatever titles they plan to announce should be set by now at least.

I'm not expecting any huge titles. Maybe just two or three smaller titles that appeal to one group or another but aren't really notable in and of themselves like a nukige from Waffle. That said, Waffle tends to leak English announcements early, so I'm not betting on that company in particular. It would be a good time to announce a release date for a notable title though. It'll probably be Higurashi, though it could always be Hapymaher, Damekoi, or Evenicle.

>>19027917
MML doing well despite some complaints isn't surprising. Moege generally do well regardless of quality.

>> No.19028278

>>19028248
2 announcements was less than I was expecting, but a new partner could turn out interesting.

>> No.19028305

>>19028239
Koiken Otome at least had real pretty art going for it.

>> No.19028308

>>19028278
They've had two announcements at the last two Anime Central panels as well.

>> No.19028323

>>19028011
>>19028088
I am trying to remember where this was. But it was the scene where they found her origin if I also remember right where I found the info was on a forum site of Sayas Release day. Some had mentioned they played it in Japanese and wanted to see JASTS version of it. One guy had mentioned it was slightly altered about that and was disappointed. But then again to me it did not matter as if anyone has read stories based on H.P lovecraft they would understand.

>>19028225
I think that's what it was honestly was the translation JAST gave. in the story supposedly she landed on Earth and the scientists we're trying to figure out who she was that is what some people were arguing the translation was before hand.

I think I am going to find the Japanese version to see if that is true or not.

>> No.19028331

Any speculation as to who the new MG partner could be?

>> No.19028341

>>19028273
Well, that post of mine was late.

>>19028267
AC would probably be the best time to announce most large nukige. They could do it for AX or Otakon, but that's usually reserved for the most notable titles they have. Only Alicesoft or Clock up nukige have been announced there recently IIRC.

Personally, I'll guess Waffle nukige and some niche fetish title like gore or NTR. Otome, BL, and Yuri are usually saved for AX or Otakon, and Anime Boston had a moege announcement. It could be yuri if MG considers that genre to be too niche for AX and Otakon now. Sono Hana games sell fine, but they don't sell well enough to get a hard copy. Kindred Spirits could just be a rare exception. They did technically have a yuri related announcement for Anime Boston, but that doesn't really count.

>> No.19028352

>>19028331
That would only be possible if it uses any existing clues. It could be Lucky Dog.

>> No.19028353

>>19028331
Omegastar.

>> No.19028369

>>19028331
Lucky Dog.

>> No.19028373

>>19028323
If I had to make a guess, I think It sounds like you read some forum posts by people who didn't know Japanese who were trying to read the game with text hookers or something and didn't understand it.

>> No.19028375

>>19027917
>Magical Marriage Lunatics seems to be doing pretty good despite people having mixed reactions about it.

W Happiness was their best seller on the MG site last year, so that isn't surprising the next Moonstone moege also does well. Additionally, it doesn't seem like Kuroinu is pulling big numbers losing to the Circus sale titles and the Fata Morgana fandisc will pull its numbers on Steam, so neither preorder title is running ahead of it which is what it normally would fall behind.

>> No.19028386

>>19028331
It could be https://vndb.org/v21321 if MG was planning to announce a yuri title.

>>19028352
>>19028369
I really doubt that. BL seems like a big enough niche that they'll probably save it for AX or Otakon.

>> No.19028387

>>19028352
>>19028369
Isn't it more likely they'd be saving that for AX? Not too familiar with BL but it seems like a big title.

>> No.19028388

>>19028373
That might be correct. Because in Japanese there is words that are not literal meanings but figurative. Which makes total sense. If it was true people would have pointed it out long ago and today.

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>>19016981
:^)

>> No.19028544

>>19027996
I am one of them. I don't get why they're telling the same story again. Maybe they wanted to be more thorough and have CGs this time?
One thing I'd like to see is Jacopo's character development dealt with better. I thought it was unnatural as fuck how quickly he went from having a pure heart of gold to being hitler.

>> No.19028672

>>19028331
Well, if it is only restricted to nukiges, how about Lune's Youkoso! Sukebe Elf no Mori e? There was some interest from Lune's side too.

>> No.19028679

>>19028672
That's probably too soon, since the results of the survey that got their interest didn't come out too long ago.

>> No.19028693

>>19028544
I'm more skeptical about the new characters.

>You loved Morgana's story, right? Now here it is again with random nobodies that weren't important enough to be mentioned the first time around.

>> No.19029364

>>19028544
>One thing I'd like to see is Jacopo's character development dealt with better
That's probably the point, I think. In any case, I'm at least interested in seeing the send-off with Michel and Giselle. Supposedly there's some more character development with his brothers, too.

>> No.19029410

>>19029364
What bothered me about Georges was that he lived his entire life and never realized his wife was a manipulative, sadistic psycho.

>> No.19029438

>>19029410
To be fair he was a complete dumbass immersed in his art, so a smart sadist slipping by him all thoes years isn't really too crazy.

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What do you suppose this says? I can't read the handwriting.

>> No.19029924

>>19028544
He never went Hitler.

>> No.19030071

>>19029924
He may when all is said and done.

>> No.19030602

>>19029486
The kanji is 救

>> No.19030893 [DELETED] 

>>>wsr/504261
Anyone know this?

>> No.19030904

>>>/wsr/504261
Anyone know this?

>> No.19030914

>>19030904
Is it that important that you have to spam it fucking everywhere?

>> No.19031067

>>19024100
The real problem behind Dies irae is Views https://vndb.org/p7239 and not light themselves.

>> No.19031298

>>19029924
Close enough

>> No.19031717

>>19030914
Yes

>> No.19031720

>>19028331
I pray for Lune ever since that tweet from them.

>> No.19032160

How is IMHHW's translation?

>> No.19032184

>>19032160
The MoeNovel one is fucking terrible. The re-translation is decent though.

>> No.19032202

>>19032160
the official one? complete garbage. The fan re-translation? it's alright. has some issues here and there with word choice and phrasing but it is well within tolerance.

>> No.19032268

>>19032184
>>19032202
All right, thanks.

>> No.19034614

Sol Press posted that Yotsunoha is up to 75% translated and 70% edited

>> No.19035375

Huh, does Sony ending physical Vita game production affect Sekai Project in particular?

https://gematsu.com/2018/05/ps-vita-physical-game-production-to-end-march-31-2019-in-the-americas-and-europe

>> No.19035434

>>19035375
Probably not too much, they get the most out of Steam and Humble Bundle sales.

>> No.19035442

>>19035375
>Sekai took so long on their Vita promises that the Vita died

funny either way desu

>> No.19035694

What about Triantology?

>> No.19036604

>>19035375
Not really lol but this is a funny thing to happen.

>>19035434
That is true but for how long.

>> No.19036615

>>19032160
The greatest translation since Chrono Clock. BELIEVE IT!

>> No.19036668

>>19035375
>Huh, does Sony ending physical Vita game production affect Sekai Project in particular?

I think it'll hurt Aksys more.

PSV is one of their main platforms. They've started shifting to the PS4 but the main company they license from (Idea Factory) has only released 4 titles for the PS4 with no future PS4 titles announced. Aksys has already released 2 out of 4.

>> No.19037639

>>19035375
I expect more companies to migrate to PS4 and Switch because of this.

>> No.19037868

>>19036668
Maybe they finally move to PC now like all proper companies do.

>> No.19038002

Looking at MangaGamer's pre-order pattern, I guess they'll announce Higurashi pre-order tomorrow, while leaving Evenicle or Damekoi after Kuroinu ch. 3 is released.

>> No.19038360

Is there a Mega or torrent for English 2236 AD yet? Nyaa only has it in Japanese.

>> No.19038675

>>19021966
But I have been waiting all this time to get a non-split version.

>> No.19040867

>>19038675
They licensed the split version, so they likely don't have the rights to release the non-split version.

I don't think the split is as awkward as that other anon makes it sound. Pillagers raid fortresses of all heroines, capturing them, then it switches to focus solely on the 3 heroines of that particular chapter.

>> No.19041363

>>19037868
I am noticing a huge trend of everything being on both PS4 and Steam now a days in regards to Japanese games. But it will not be long until companies make good profits on Steam and it may abandon Consoles as time goes on.

>> No.19041369

>>19038002
Higurashi is something I am placing my hopes on.

>> No.19041471

Is this any good https://vndb.org/v1022 ?

>> No.19041489

>>19038675
I emailed them about it once and they said they have no plans on doing a complete version or at last not for now.

>> No.19041496

>>19041471
Wrong thread.

>> No.19041534

>>19041496
Eh we talk about stuff we want to see translated all the time here.

>> No.19041746

>>19041363
Not a chance. Steam gets flooded with too many titles for any publishers to drop consoles for it.

>> No.19042445

Higurashi chapter 6 set for June 14.

>> No.19042578

>>19042445
Ugh. It's been so long since mangagamer released anything I cared about

>> No.19042622

>>19042578
They have been doing smaller Steam focused releases mid month for a couple months now. They'll likely announce a more meaningful title for June 28th (to have it out for AX) when the last chapter of Kuroinu is released at the end of the month.

>> No.19042663

>>19042578
On the bright side it helps save money, but it still sucks. For example its sad that some people are so starved for gameplay titles, that an rpgmaker game has been in the top 5 rankings for three or so months straight.
>>19042622
I think it's more of the quantity of small titles that are constantly worked on. Without them, bigger VNs or gameplay titles could have their beta testing, editing, etc. done much faster. As long as it makes them money there won't be reason to stop I guess.

>> No.19043486

>>19042663
>For example its sad that some people are so starved for gameplay titles, that an rpgmaker game has been in the top 5 rankings for three or so months straight
You said it again, even though I corrected you last time and told you why it's there. Amazing.

>> No.19044488 [DELETED] 

>>19042445
Jesus fucking christ it was about time. Doddler should prioritize Higurashi since they aren't releasing the full story at once. I know people are starving for Evenicle and have been waiting on its release forever, I understand them but you can't just take over half an entire year to release a single Higurashi chapter.

>> No.19044504

>>19042445
Jesus fucking christ it was about time. Doddler should prioritize Higurashi since they aren't releasing the full story at once. I know people are starving for Evenicle and have been waiting for the release forever, I understand them but you can't just take over an entire year to release a single Higurashi chapter.

>> No.19044701

>>19042578
Last visual novel that I bought from MangaGamer was Imouto Paradise 2, still waiting for Hapymaher, Damekoi and Evenicle.
But at least I bought ''something'' from them, JAST and SP have yet to release something that would justify me registering and buying from them.

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>>19016624
Can anyone help me with proofreading my typesetted h-manga?

>> No.19044732

>>19044707
Not the best place for this, but go ahead and post it and I'm sure someone will critique.

>> No.19044757
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>>19044732
There is no other place as far as I know.

>> No.19044778

>>19044757
Sadpanda thread.

>> No.19044801

>>19044778
On /h/? They're only discussing the site itself.
On /a/? I think mods have banned those threads a long time ago. It's been awhile since I've been on /a/ and /h/ is shit.

>> No.19044804

>>19044504
14 months between chapter 5 and 6. Really unacceptable.

>> No.19045933

>>19044504
You'd be lucky if the last 2 chapters of the main 8 were done by end of 2019. I wonder when the 3 chapters after that would be done.

>>19044701
JAST has some old gems even if you discount fan translated titles. I personally like Yume Miru Kusuri and Demonbane though that just might be nostalgia. Their gameplay titles are mediocre at best though. The only one I can really recommend is Eien no Aselia (and that's stuck with an all ages version); I just can't get through Yumina. It's okay, but like Aselia, it's just too slow. I haven't bothered with Seinarukana.

Sekai's good stuff is almost all stuff that has been fan translated already, and I wouldn't buy from them even if I did want a title from them.

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>>19044778

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>>19046681

>> No.19047079

>>19046681
You use ellipses way too often. I know Japs love them, but you should think about when to use them in a TL. Sometimes they're the only thing on a line like on panel 2 and 3. Those are especially bad.
Panel 1 - minipanel 2 is not typeset, twitter should be uwitter in minipanel 3, plus it is not cleaned properly (reply #28)

I need to see the raw, and I can't find it on ex. Just send me the whole thing along with the raw on Dumpster1@yandex.com and I'll give you my feedback.

>> No.19047081

>>>/vg/215083970
Huh, apparently some people are translating Amayui.

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>>19044504
I agree with this honestly. But then again people like pic related make me buy it regardless.

>> No.19047253

>>19047081
It doesn't seem to be a machine translation, so its a decent sign for them. Its too bad Aroduc likely is done for good, but at least theres a chance Amayui be completed eventually.

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It appears there will be a farther tightening of content allowed on Steam going forward. Huniepop received a notice from Valve that asked them to farther censor the content within the Steam version, or else the title will be removed from Steam. Obviously, there are quite a number of Japanese VNs from pretty much all the developers who have similar content on Steam now which would be in question if these happen to be the new standards, and if Valve is addressing a title that has been on the platform for 3 years with roughly 800k owners with these new restrictions, they would likely apply retroactively to pretty much all VNs on the platform now.

>> No.19047316

>>19047274
Maitetsu is fucked

>> No.19047344

>>19047274
Hopefully having an ESRB M rating is enough to justify staying on the platform, as Gahkthun was added to the platform with one and Kindred Spirits could easily get one if needed, and unlike true R18 titles they were both allowed onto the platform without edits. If not, MG is in for quite a few headaches, as they picked up Sona-Nyl intending for it to be a title they could put onto Steam without an issue. Additionally it seemed like Bokuten was being redone to suit Steam's old standards which may no longer apply, and Overdrive/MG met with Valve previously to get an idea about what is allowed, with some of Bamboo's comments hinting that the upcoming Musica! would fall into the same type of "technically not porn" standard as the Liarsoft VNs.

Frontwing and Sekai also seemed to have a handful of titles they would need to go back an edit the CGs for if it happens to be a no anime nipples type restriction. Although neither company seemed to have much in the way of titles where there was an appeal about having it uncut onto Steam (unless you count Corona Blossom and Chrono Clock outside of the separate H-scenes) in the same way as MG had, it instead is just more content that would be limited to off Steam patches and releases.

>> No.19047375

>>19047141
Jesus Christ I remember seeing that post when it first happened and I think I just lost more brain cells again. Thanks. Fucking normalfags.

>> No.19047534

I kind of wonder what Valve are getting from changing their Steam policies on erotic content.
Like wouldn't it be more profitable to simply change their recommendation algorithms and perhaps a notification/warning screen upon trying to view a related store page?

>> No.19047551

>>19047534
they are pretty adamant about not adding an 18+ section and lots of kusoge are skirting censorship by selling porn games that only need a 1kb file to unlock the ero.

>> No.19047632

>>19047534
It depends on why they are doing it. PR reasons probably aren't enough to justify it especially for a big seller that has been around for a few years like Huniepop, but if they are dealing with Paypal policies it may force their hand. Additionally, some of the recent clampdowns (especially on linking to R18 patches) may be done to help keep the platform from getting pulled out of the Chinese market.

>> No.19047716

>>19047274
https://twitter.com/Lupiesoft/status/997293788316844032
It looks to be a coordinated crackdown on content, Mutiny also got the same email from Valve, giving them 2 weeks to get their content to be consistent with whatever the new standard happens to be. I'm guessing MG/Sekai/Frontwing will be getting their own notifications sooner than later if they haven't already.

>> No.19047839

>>19047375
Lol absolutely. I hate moralfagging arguments. Especially when it goes against the freedoms of expression.

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>>19047274
REEE FUCK YOU GABE NEWELL!!!!! You fatass!!!!!

>> No.19047969

>>19047958
Please return from wherever you came from.

>> No.19047992

>>19047344
>>19047632
If the cause is the Chinese government, not even M rated games will be necessarily safe. If it gets to that point, it's either losing the profitable Chinese market or unleashing a PR catastrophe.

>> No.19048002

>>19047716
so whats the new rule? no unlocks?

>> No.19048044

>>19047992
I hope not because if that happens then Steam is going to die a long term death.

>> No.19048102

>>19048044
>Steam is going to die a long term death.
What's the problem here?

>> No.19048190

>>19048002
Hard to say, one of the news articles got an additional comment from the Huniepop developers, and it says Valve didn't lay out the details

>We’ve heard back from a representative from HuniePop‘s developer HuniePot. In their response, they stated that Valve did not mention where the complaint was sourced from, only that a complaint was received. Their game was stated as containing pornographic material, but there was no indication of what material Valve took issue with. Additionally, the HuniePot representative stated that “it’s certainly surprising to see this notice after being on Steam for over 3 years with no such problems.”

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>>19047274

>> No.19048227

>>19048213
Technically that first one is from The Witcher 2, but yeah.

>> No.19048228

>>19048044
>>19048102
Even with all of the inevitable collateral damage, it's probably better if eroge weren't so reliant on Steam. Though, I am starting to find it likely that it's just one guy who wants to screw with other companies. >>19048190

Since Sakuragame doesn't seem to have had complaints yet, it's clearly part of their plan to corner the lewd market of Steam. Damn Chinese and their terrible ideas. Jokes aside, it really wouldn't surprise me if it were one random activist.

>> No.19048287

>>19048228
SakuraGame has had a few titles get removed before launch, and there is no reason to think they would have been exempt from these new standards. Doddler had a post which suggested that everyone got hit in some way, it is just the two we are aware of are the developers who went public first.

>> No.19048295

>>19048002
>Okay, so based off of the games targeted and the convos I've had on twitter, the issue is definitely that they showed uncensored tits.
>And since they initially released the game Valve's reneged their policy on allowing nudity in anime games.

>> No.19048324

>>19048228
At the moment, there is no real good solution for VNs to not have some reliance on Steam (not for a lack of effort though, with Nutaku/Fakku/MG/Jast all hosting meaingful R18 platforms). Even if titles can make money without Steam (Jast historically had made money on every release), the extra revenue from Steam would still be worth going after. Fureraba looks to be a comparatively strong seller on Steam, after being released there a month after being on 4 other platforms without the preorder bonus, so short of a huge change in how PC games as a whole are sold it would be hard for them to justify not taking the time to make a Steam version since they wouldn't have gotten many of those sales otherwise.

I doubt it is just one guy here though, if they removed these titles because of an outside actor instead of for solely PR reasons it would have been because of either a large organization (governmental or otherwise), or one of their partners (Paypal or another payment processor) got them to apply more stringent requirements. One guy can get a title like Maidens of Michael removed with a few hundred copies sold on Steam, but a title like Huniepop is a relatively mainstream title with 800k sales being given a warning with a 2 week grace period (if it is the same as Mutiny) as part of a larger crackdown is an organized decision.

>> No.19048339

>>19048324
I heard that Valve recently changed content policy without properly informing devs and publishers. Supposedly no uncensored breasts are allowed now.

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It might be due to Valve's location.

>> No.19048354

>>19048351
But steam already supports age gating, in fact any game affected probably already has one?

>> No.19048370

https://twitter.com/ank0u1/status/997332460470878208
Tropical Liquor got flagged too.

>> No.19048394

>>19048370
At this point the issue is likely uncensored tits. So just put black bars over them and they might be passable.

>> No.19048398

https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2018/05/18/80873.html

>> No.19048450

Fata Morgana fandisc's content summarized here.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2018/05/16/introduction-to-the-tales-of-a-requiem-for-innocence/

>> No.19048456

>>19048450
I think I'm about half way through the main story of it. It's much better than I was expecting.

>> No.19048598

>>19047253
ZAP is machine translation. They're the ones who spewed out all the other Eushully edited MTLs.

>> No.19048605

>>19048598
And I see people in that thread pointed that out too, but apparently ZAP's changed their ways and no longer machine translates games because they said this one's a REAL translation, not like all those other ones they released, also as REAL translations at the time.

>> No.19048828

>>19048339
>>19048394
>Supposedly no uncensored breasts are allowed now
>At this point the issue is likely uncensored tits
I would like to see how well it goes over if they removed The Witcher 3 or GTA 5 of that is the case. Even an update to censor them would likely generate outrage after being left for so long.

>> No.19048847

>>19048828
If MG eventually puts out a list of titles that Valve had a problem with, I'd be curious if Gahkthun ends up on that list. One potential way for Valve to deal with different sets of restrictions is to say they'll require titles with nudity to have an official rating (although for titles that go that route it would effectively be a backdoor block on official R18 patches for those titles).

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>>19048456
Finished. Spoiler-free review:
>Great translation, only noticed one typo.
>Good elaboration of established characters, a few uncertain scenes cleared up, practically everything from the original is [completely] wrapped up.
>New characters were, by and large, very good. One in particular serving a great purpose in the story.
>The epilogue for Michel/Giselle was short and sweet. I would most certainly impregnate the shit out of modern Giselle; that long flowing hair is hot as hell.
>Music is, unfortunately, not as good as the original. There are a few standout tracks that are just as good as the best of the original, but overall the quality is less consistent. There are some pretty phoned in tracks that just sound like generic VN stuff.
>You do sometimes feel like, "Okay, I get it, we've already been through this," around near the 70% range of the main story, but it isn't so bad. There's enough new content in the latter half to pull you through, and some great, new CG as well.

Overall, pretty good. I'd give it an 8/10 or something, while the original was something like a 9/10 in my affections. It's around 10-12 hours long overall.

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If anyone feels like trying their luck guessing directories and imagenames, The images for mangagamer's announcements might be uploaded given that haro's prepped the placeholders for the announcements.

>> No.19048911

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2018/05/18/regarding-recent-inquires-into-steam-content-policy-notices/

MG only got a notice for Kindred Spirits.

>> No.19048913

>>19048911
Surprised Gahkthun wasn't hit. Doesn't that show just as much nudity?

>> No.19048920

>>19048911
From a press perspective, targeting only Kindred Spirits seems a bit odd, seeing that it is the one MG title which made headlines for its content. Valve's boilerplate notice seems to indicate that these titles are breaking Valve's ToS, yet at the time, every mainstream gaming news site did a story on the content in Kindred Spirits so the idea that Valve somehow allowed content which broke their terms of service to slip in unnoticed is a ludicrous claim that isn't likely to be found receptive anywhere.

>> No.19048924

>>19048913
Gahkthun is more explicit if anything, perhaps it was the ESRB rating that got them into the clear?

>> No.19049052

Alright so.
MG panel: Friday, May 18th at 9:45 p.m. (CDT/GMT-5).
SP panel: Sunday, May 20th at 2:00-3:00pm (same timezone, i imagine.)

Correct?

>> No.19049274

>>19048924
Who knows, maybe they're just going through all the games which have a high number of people tag it with the 'Nudity' tag.

>> No.19049290

>>19048924
probably the ESRB rating since it means you can literally sell it on public store shelves if it's anything other than an AO rating.

>> No.19049773

>>19028544
>One thing I'd like to see is Jacopo's character development dealt with better.
That's exactly the point.

>>19048850
I'm up to the end of part 1 and I have to say Ceren was a mistake, largely because of how important she is which then makes it unnatural that she was never included in the original story. It was alright how she was being used as a very energetic contrast to Morgana to help with her character development but then the shit with making the random bandit raid be her betraying them to the lord was retarded and totally unnecessary.
>Music is, unfortunately, not as good as the original. There are a few standout tracks that are just as good as the best of the original, but overall the quality is less consistent. There are some pretty phoned in tracks that just sound like generic VN stuff.
I had the same impression. Half the soundtrack is great, the rest doesn't even feel like it was made for the same game, and that makes sense seeing as it's from a totally new composer who didn't work on the original. It's a shame they couldn't get Tsutsumi back.
Oh, speaking of Fata's music, did they ever release anything of the live concert from around a year back?

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>>19049773
Oh, and I forgot to mention another thing. While the original game was notably for being anachronistic in its dialogue not reflecting the time periods, this fan disc takes it a lot further than the original translation did, particularly in regards to Ceren. That pulled me out a in a few places.
That aside, I can also say that while the original got me a bit misty-eyed at times, this time I actually cried. Reading through the scene of Jacopo carrying Morgana home while knowing how everything turns out in the end was heartbreaking.

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>>19049773
>with making the random bandit raid be her betraying them to the lord was retarded and totally unnecessary.
Did you read the intermission yet? I felt the same way until I finished it. Even if she's just a tool for Barnier's development and is bordering on being a retcon character, I think it was pretty effective at making a previously one-dimensional-character get some depth. Two broken peas in a pod and all that. I didn't really expect to come out of the FD actually enjoying Barnier's character, I thought he was just gonna be a 1D madman the entire time.

>>19049810
Yeah, that's a good scene. Really hammers in the naivete and comfort of their early years.

>> No.19049874

>>19049838
>Did you read the intermission yet?
Not yet, I'm leaving the rest until tomorrow. So I won't be reading the rest of your post until then either.

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>>19049874
Yup. That's for the best.

>> No.19049992

>>19047274
I can't wait until SubaHibi is just a big black screen.

>> No.19050068

Sekai Project was alerted that they need to censor Re;lord 1

>> No.19050145

>>19048828
Steam flagged Karmasutra, which doesn't even show tits in the Steam version, so no idea what sexual content Valve's even going after at this point.

>> No.19050158

>>19050145
I think Steam is just hyper paranoid at this point. I'm tempted to false flag GTA or the Witcher just to see if they react.

>> No.19050171

I wonder if Sol Press will reconsider going steam-only at this point. A few weeks ago they said they had no plans for other platforms.

>> No.19050177

>>19050158
SakuraGame is much more deserving.

>> No.19050193

>>19048911
This must suck since they recently announced the Full Chorus version of Kindred Spirits to sell on Steam as DLC.

>> No.19050235

In potential visual novel crowdfunding news, Thunderclap no longer suppports for profit campaigns, so no more kickstarters or indiegogos.

>> No.19050357

>>19050158
flag christine love games. If valve takes any of them down kotaku will have a shitfit and that bad PR might be enough to get valve to stop fucking around.

>> No.19050368

>>19050357
Love posted that Ladykiller in a Bind wasn't effected, which is dumb since it's more explicit than some of the jvns that got flagged.

>> No.19050620

>>19047274
I wonder if they also contacted genital jousting team. Or if it is fine as long as things are detached.

>> No.19050855

>>19050357
this. once they get a taste of their own medicine they will cry foul and the system will have to make explicit its double standard.

>> No.19051159

Depending on how badly you need to censor your visual novels on steam and the amount of time you need for your visual novel to be ''approved'' and declined by valve over and over, I can see us going back to the good old NukigeGamer days my friends.

>> No.19051193

>>19051159
Not really. They can just add more content to the off Steam adult patches and nothing would really change.

>> No.19051278

>>19051193
News about steam ''removing'' and banning certain visual novels on steam will influence many potential Japanese visual novel developers who looked into getting onto the western visual novel scene and mainly on steam.
They will be scared off due to another RapeLay scandal.

>> No.19051296

Will Mangagamer announce a complete edition of Kuroinu that's not split into parts?

>> No.19051300

>>19050368
>Love posted that Ladykiller in a Bind wasn't effected
What? That's ridiculous.

>> No.19051302

>>19051296
I doubt it, since that would likely mean paying to license the game twice. And they went with the split version to make the numbers come out okay in the first place.

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>>19051302
So even with all of it translated, we're still getting nothing but a broken mess?
It's like I've waited for nothing.

>> No.19051343

>>19051331
I don't think it's that bad. Each game does an intro to the the Black Dogs, then goes on to focus on the heroines of that chapter.

>> No.19051353

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/997539819537424384

>> No.19051370

>>19051343
The lack of choice makes it much more boring since you didn't so much choose to go after the heroine, you just booted up her designated executable. It's not the same thing at all

>> No.19051374

>>19051366
Since it will go on for longer than this thread will last, here is a separate thread to handle the announcements at Anime Central this weekend.

>> No.19051381

>>19051374
You're wrong, but okay.

>> No.19051385

>>19051370
Kuroinu never had much choice to begin with. The "routes" are just a series of sex scenes by picking which heroine you want to auction that day with bits of story thrown in. The games reach their conclusion when that heroine's scenes are all viewed up until their conclusion. The complete release wouldn't change this.

>> No.19051386

I like how haro is blaming the steam situation on conservative homophobes now based on ONE game out of the dozen so far.

>> No.19051396

>>19051386
She's blaming it on the troll that reported Maidens of Michael who claimed to be Islamic or something. If you couldn't figure that out that's on you.

>> No.19051404

>>19051385
>Kuroinu never had much choice to begin with.
But it still had it.
Now it just happens because it happens and not because you made it happen.

>> No.19051408

>>19051396
Hi BDH.

>> No.19051411

>>19051404
Your only choice even in the full version is who to auction every day. The choice system is still there. It's just now each game only has 3 options on who to pick.

>> No.19051420

>>19051411
>It's just now each game only has 3 options on who to pick.
How is that not a huge downgrade?

>> No.19051423

>>19051420
How is playing all 3 games not exactly the same thing in the end?

>> No.19051440

>>19051423
Because in each part your choices were limited. And the continuity between each part is different too.

>> No.19051444

Kuroinu isn't even a very good VN even in the complete version. The OVA took the best aspects and combined them to create a good animated series. If you read the VN after watching the OVA you'll likely be very disappointed. I didn't think it'd be so repetitive and boring at times.

>> No.19051453

>>19051444
Kuroinu wasn't good.

>> No.19051468

>>19051440
Have you actually played any of Kuroinu before? It's just a series of sex scenes tied to the selected heroine. There is almost no "continuity" to speak of. Once you reach the auction house any story outside the sex scenes is dropped. That's true even in the full version. Think of Amored Warrior Iris if nothing happened in between who you picked for her clients. Yep, that's Kuroinu.

>> No.19051498

is having a friend's list and telling everyone which porn game you're playing really so important to these dumb normalfags

i hope Steam as a platform dies completely for visual novels and nothing replaces it

>> No.19051550

>>19051498
>nothing replaces it
lol, JAST, MG, Nutaku, Fakku, and itch.io even Mikandi's store are all trying to get the purged VN devs to come to their stores.

>> No.19051560

>>19051550
those are just stores, though. it's a different monster overall from Steam

>> No.19051570

>>19051550
Nutaku was trying to form a Steam-like platform for porn games. Everything else is just a store.

>> No.19051571

>>19051498
Weebs, ironic or not, want to socialize and attention when they are playing porn games and steam is just the biggest platform to do that.

Steam even made visual novels semi popular, a few years ago nobody would have imagined that stuff like Huniepop, Nekopara and DDLC would have hundreds of thousands readers.
Steam has been a blessing and a curse for the visual novel community.
On another hand we never had so many visual novel releases as now, but with that we have many releases with questionable quality. Be it SakuraGamer, WingedCloud, MoeNovel or some Sekai Project releases (did they ever fix Leyline and Hoshizora?).

>> No.19051591

>>19051571
>did they ever fix Leyline and Hoshizora?
maybe in another few years, right after they spend at least one "fixing" Chrono Clock

>> No.19051624

>>19051498
Doubt it is important to anyone.

To me it is more about organizing games. If account pages at JAST or MG gave me a list of owned games, with the ability to tag (or pre-tagged by the store) which I can filter/sort on, I'd not mind using them instead of Steam.

Ideally it is smoother to install through Steam, but as most requires an uncensor patch it is not that different from just unpacking/installing a download from a store.

Besides, I have my other games on Steam so I would have Steam on all the time regardless. So there is really no loss (unless Valve makes it a loss) to have VNs on Steam.

>> No.19051656

I feel like people are forgetting that the (extra) censoring or outright taking down some titles will discourage some Japanese companies from trying to reach the western market through Steam, which was a big incentive for them in many cases.

>> No.19051665

>>19051570
Nutaku is never going to get anywhere with their client as they only use payment processors who forbid stuff like blood during intercourse, maid outfits, nun outfits, breasts smaller than D cup, and so on.

Not even their exclusive deals make me bother with them because I know that is their only strength. Paying money to block people from buying games.

>> No.19051666

>>19051656
In cases like Light and Frontwing, I think if their main/only focus is Steam, then they were never committed to bringing over a quality produce to begin with.

>> No.19051686

>>19051666
Companies are and will keep being companies no matter how much they want to produce a high quality product, they must operate based on earning and losing money otherwise they just cannot operate at all. This is especially true of the visual novel scene, which is a niche one outside of a select few titles.

Not saying those specific companies intend or ever intended to produce high quality products, though. In the case of Light it really seems like they were just searching for money.

>> No.19051703

>>19051686
Speaking if Light I wonder if one of Steiner's secret project is another one of their visual novels.
>https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/996915872726994949

>> No.19051707

>>19051703
I doubt it, but it's not off the table. If it is though, I hope the PR team isn't the same as Dies Irae's because that was the worst Kickstarter campaign I have ever seen.

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>>19051624
There NEEDS to be an alternative to Steam that provides all of this. But it would require the involvement of MangaGamer, Jast, Fakku and Sekai Project to be successful. Otherwise it becomes pic related.

I'll be pushing for this where I can.

>> No.19051816

>>19051796
A universal standard will never happen since all their existing stores are competing with each other. And a Steam alternative would be too much money for the niche VN industry to maintain or to create in the first place.

>> No.19051928

>>19051816
I can't imagine that a Steam alternative would be THAT difficult to produce. We already have GoG, UPlay, Battle.Net, Origin.

Personally I don't need most functionality on those anyway. I don't need assisted multiplayer, forums, friendlists, etc.

If it just lets me buy games and keep all of them in one place, it is enough for me.

>> No.19052039

>>19051928
>We already have GoG, UPlay, Battle.Net, Origin.
You're talking about much bigger companies than any that publish VNs.

>> No.19052061

>>19051624
Can't you just keep a folder on your PC with all your VNs inside it like most people do?

>> No.19052122

Seems like Moenovel and JAST didn't get hit

>> No.19052138

>>19052122
Of course not, Moenovel was ahead of the meta.

>> No.19052147

>>19052061
I don't do like most people, and instead play it on my tablet. However, there is nothing stopping me from keeping the games on my PC with a shared folder. And I could delete the games after playing them, so I can keep track of what I've already played.

But I'd still have Steam open as said, so if the games fit in Steam there is really no reason not to have them there.

>> No.19052477

>>19049773
How long are the sidestories?

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>>19051816
Well, Jast doesn't seem to be against the idea, at least.
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/997562243456913408
>>19052039
That's why it needs to be a joint project with Jast/Fakku/MG/SP. Alone they don't pull much weight, but together it's possible to hack together a barebones client and work their way up from there.

What I imagine a priority order would be:
1. What >>19051928 says, ability buy and keep games in one place. Should be able to check game files integrity and re-download any if there's any corruption. Hell, I could code that shit myself in C or Go easily.
2. Support/Tag system/User report function.
3. Multi-platform (Linux/Mac, maybe Android)
4. DRM. While MG and Jast are OK with selling games with no DRM, other game devs. wouldn't be too pleased with that, and prefer their game to be protected. Anyways, simple internet-based DRM isn't too hard to program either.
Also a sales commission (5-10%) to maintain the platform, of course.

Garbage like friends, forum and whatnot could come later once it picks up steam.

>> No.19052570

>>19052544
>Multi-platform (Linux/Mac, maybe Android)
Even many Steam releases aren't this due to crappy Japanese programming.

>> No.19052575

>>19052544
I think 2. would actually be a whole lot of investment into security. You don't want account thefts or password leaks, or it will kill you before you even had a chance on the market.

On the other hand, it shouldn't be that much harder than how webpages do it. (When they do it right)

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https://twitter.com/ncose/status/997484630273032192

https://endsexualexploitation.org/steam/

It turns out it was a stupid Lobbying firm. That is promoting Jew-Deo-Christian values.

>> No.19052885

>>19052847
They've been complaining at Steam for 2 years now. And their list of games to target doesn't match what got hit.

>> No.19052891

Summary of situation from dev who got a game flagged.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqhmq1

>> No.19052894

>>19052575
Security isn't super complicated if you follow right steps. HTTPS, Salted password hashing, encrypt the connection between client and server, etc. It can pretty much be outsourced to a cybersecurity firm. However, if you want to save up on cost, there are plenty of OpSec guides around, just remember to read it THOROUGHLY.

>> No.19052947

>>19052847
They are happy, but I doubt they are the cause. The only game on their "dirty dozen" list that got targeted recently was Huniepop, and the reasons they have for disliking it wouldn't be solved by simply covering up the CGs more. House Party was banned, but that was a while ago.

>> No.19052967

>>19051928
Gog is perhaps the only real platform that can challenge Steam. The problem is will GOG cuck under pressure and actually take games off as soon as someone tries to defame them? Either way it may be possible to Switch platforms if the deals are good enough.

>>19052544
>That's why it needs to be a joint project with Jast/Fakku/MG/SP. Alone they don't pull much weight, but together it's possible to hack together a barebones client and work their way up from there.


Its a good idea, i may not like Sekai Project and Fakku all that much but there is a good opportunity to pull off a pseudo Hentai/VN style program. You do have the correct idea for 5-10% comission but i would also argue that there needs to be incentive for anyone to buy on the platform features are important and also price is as well. I do not think it would be too difficult.

>>19052891
TL:DR AAA games can do whatever because they have lawyers that can protect them, while Indies you are on your own because Steam is for profit.

>> No.19052984

>>19052544
If they do this I hope MG offers store codes for existing purchases like they used to do with Steam codes.

>> No.19053096

>>19048924
That's it exactly. I notice Valve seems to not care after a game has an ESRB rating. I only believe Valve reviews because they do not want to be sued on their platform.

>>19049052
I think it's about right. I would say 9pm though for MG.

>> No.19053118

>>19050158
If I remember Steam does have Firewatch on its flagging crew and they are a bunch of SJW's.

>> No.19053132

>>19051278
Rapelay was really explicit than anything else. I can see them all creating a guild and a platform for the West to enjoy.

>> No.19053161

>>19049838
>that fucking scene
I don't know what it is about Morgana opening up to someone that makes me cry like a bitch

>> No.19053289

Newton's Steam page is up. https://store.steampowered.com/app/721010/Newton_and_the_Apple_Tree/

>> No.19053297

>>19052847
Maybe a bit of an extreme comparison, but it's like a terrorist group claiming responsibility for a suicide bombing they had no part in. Things just happened to work out the way they hoped for it to so they assume credit for it.
>>19053118
They hired those devs recently, and apparently have them working on their game, I somewhat doubt they'd be involved with the storefront side of things. It's also very small team and I have a very hard time believing that they had enough clout to influence the rest of the company in such a big way within such a short amount of time. Lastly, some of the games targeted have been yuri and at least one is by a dev that bills itself as being LGBT+ friendly, so it doesn't really make sense in that regard either.

>> No.19053322

>>19053289
>June
August release hype.

>> No.19053561

Now this person is taking credit for the massive Steam reports.

https://twitter.com/StrategyBeast/status/997507251895263234

>> No.19053568

>>19053561
https://twitter.com/StrategyBeast/status/997505789609824256

>We have been speaking up. We've been reporting your games for months. Characters drawn like little girls with big tits in bondage wear doesn't constitute a medium. Apologies.

>> No.19053633

>>19053096
I checked the schedule a few days ago, and it was 9:45. I don't see why it would have changed so suddenly.

>>19053297
I don't really think it's the case that the cause is left wing (or right wing for that matter), but if it was, the Western left throwing Japanese or "anime influenced" yuri/LGBT+ titles under the bus wouldn't be surprising. A lot of feminists are sex negative after all.

The main reason I doubt it is because Kotaku bothered to report on the situation of all websites. They aren't quite as left wing as Polygon, but they are close enough.

>>19053561
I doubt he's the main factor, much like in this case. >>19052847

>> No.19053726

https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/997417023759114241

Huh, the ESRB is dropping the free ratings for digital games thing. This is a weird coincidence if I've ever seen one.

>> No.19053851

>>19053726
No, they're only dropping short ratings, not the full in depth ratings. Those have always cost money.

>> No.19054016

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1DXxyXDrObRJM
Mangagamer panel is live now.

>> No.19054047

>>19054016
Center the projector Kouryuu.

>> No.19054162

>>19054016
Why are the crowd screaming out epic funny jokes to everything? Is this common at american cons?

>> No.19054178

>>19054162
I think this year is worse than previous years.

>> No.19054189

>>19054162
con-goers in general are typically a bit cringy

>> No.19054215

>>19048605
Just chiming in here, I can safely confirm that we're not machine translating Amayui. We're using proper translators, TLC, proofreading, etc. Try out the prologue for yourself if you're not sure. The project was stalled mainly due to a lack of TLC, but that's now resolved so you should be seeing steady updates coming in.

>> No.19054268

Trinoline 95% translated, 64% edited.

>> No.19054300

>>19054016
is there a way to watch this without faggots commenting on the side

>> No.19054308

>>19054300
Mute the stream.

>> No.19054316

Evenicle out of beta and is back into scripting.

>> No.19054317

>>19054308
no i mean actual comments on twitter on the right side of the screen, not the audio

>> No.19054329

>>19054317
Click hide chat.

>> No.19054338

They better not fuck with Trinoline's Yuuri's name.

>> No.19054349

>>19054338
Don't worry. I'm sure some autist will make a patch for it

>> No.19054355

DameKoi fucking when?

>> No.19054359

>>19054349
Good fucking luck getting the tools for it.

>> No.19054368

>>19054355
"Sooner rather than later."

>> No.19054380

Sengoku Rance beta soon.

>> No.19054385

http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/acen18
https://vndb.org/v13107

>> No.19054404

>>19054385
Fanbag Fantasy 2 and a yuri VN with a possible yandere ending.

>> No.19054412

>>19054349
I would have to do it. I know there are tools for eden, but I have no idea if they work for other minori titles.

>> No.19054414

Rance Quest Magnum 84% translated, 19% edited.

>> No.19054436

Steam Prison 87% TL and editing.

>> No.19054492

>>19054385
>those ratings
Confirmed kusoge

>> No.19054499

>It’s announcement time! First up, as you may have already heard if you’re following Anime Expo news, our guest for the convention this year will be Alicesoft illustrator MIN-NARAKEN!

>> No.19054530

They cut the Q&A, what the fuck.

>> No.19054546

>>19054530
https://twitter.com/haertsisnoob/status/997688328341393410
lol

>> No.19054551

>>19054546
Literally the only thing that was important to be streamed, as it can't be seen on their site or twitter. What a moron.

>> No.19054578

So Luckydog at AX or Otakon then it seems.

>> No.19054582
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>>19054546

>> No.19054607

>>19054578
I wouldn't get your hopes up.>>19053583
I mean, it's not impossible, but the Hashihime translator was told very early on before it was even announced to take her translation down. I don't know why they'd make an exception for this one, unless they were told to but just didn't listen and MG doesn't know.

>> No.19054611

>>19054578
language
steam or otome
sorcery
jokers
lucky
sakura

Left over hints, but not sure if Steam Prison counted as Steam or otome hint. We could either get a Steam punk title form Liarsoft, or an otome game, or a game with the word otome in the title.

>> No.19054641

>>19054611
>sorcery
this was never a hint, was it?

>> No.19054646

>>19054641
The hint was "sorcery jokers"

>> No.19054647

>>19054607
>I don't know why they'd make an exception for this one

I think Luckydog1 is different. She's been open on her blog that she got permission from the Japanese side to do her translation. She probably takes her orders from them and not Mangagamer.

>> No.19054658

>>19054641
They italicized both the words in the title of Sorcery Jokers.

>> No.19054661

>>19054611
>jokers
Riddle Joker confirmed

>> No.19054668

>>19054647
If she's contracted with MG then she's gotta listen to them. There's money involved now if it's even happening, whereas her blog tl was free. It's not like she's in constant contact with the Jap company either.

>> No.19054670

>>19054661
That seems like too high profile of a title for a first release from MG. Especially since it's brand new.

>> No.19054671

>>19054661
More like another title from 3rd Eye.

>> No.19054673

>>19054661
Would be pretty funny if Yuzusoft whored out this much, would just show how horrible it is to work with Sekai.

>> No.19054694

Min Naraken being announced for AX means that Oyako Rankan is pretty likely. Two other titles where he was the main artist are Toushin Toshi III and Blade Briders, but no one wants the former while the latter is more niche than Oyako because it appeals to /m/.

He is also a side artist for many titles, so Daiteikoku or some other AS title is a possibility.

>> No.19054709

How likely is it that Nekonyan will be the ones to release Astralair and not Sekai?

>> No.19054716

What was the translation progress of Funbag2.
I only heard the part about Tsui being 100% translated and edited.

>> No.19054725

>>19054670
you say that but Yuzusoft has been handing their titles out like candy

>> No.19054751

>>19054709
Unless Sekai already signed the contracts prior to Nekonyan's formation (around mid 2017), I'd say it's extremely likely.

>> No.19054754

>>19054716
It was 50-something percent if I heard right.

>> No.19054760

>>19054725
Yeah but when was the last time MG announced a game that was only released in Japan less than a year ago that is also from a completely new partner?

>> No.19054768

>>19054611
Could this also be another hint? >>>/vg/215161268

>> No.19054789

>>19054768
>Witch's Garden
I doubt it since it's still being actively translated.

>> No.19054800

>>19054768
Probably not. MG sells whatever merch they can get their hands on. Same as past years.

>> No.19054939

>>19054760
Does Himawari count? MG announced it before the PC version of the remake was out (or the Vita version, in fact).

>> No.19056034

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/997723745547571200
https://www.jastusa.com/2018/regional-pricing-is-live

Jast is adding regional pricing to their store.

>> No.19056098

>>19056034
Its still in development too so not all nations are supported yet. If your nation is not included write a support ticket about it as it will help speed things up.

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>>19056034
While it's a step in the right direction, they still have quite a lot to price match. I'm not ready to pay 3.6x the price for DRM-free version.

>> No.19056145

>>19056098
Just checked and Australia is supported, JAST doing something good!

>>19056127
Email them about the price difference. One of their mods mentioned in the comments of the website post that they're still adjusting some of the prices.
https://www.jastusa.com/2018/regional-pricing-is-live#comment-3907665674

>> No.19056225

>>19056034
Shame it isn' regional enough. I always get Euro because I'm part of EU, but we have our own currency and it has dropped 10% in value to the Euro so everything is 10% more expensive now.

>>19056098
Would they actually bother to make every single country specific price? Could be worth it if so.

>> No.19056228

>>19052477
I've only read the first so far but it took a little over an hour.

>>19049838
Well, I finished it, but I still don't think much of her. The excuse that she betrayed them because she didn't think she was doing anything wrong is one thing, but it becomes a much bigger problem when you think about how in that case she had no reason to hide from them what she was doing, and yet never let it slip. Nothing we saw about her indicated that she would be inclined to hide it. That aside, it's the same sort of trap Metal Gear Solid fell into; wanting to link and connect everything. It's ok for some things to just be unfortunate coincidence. Making everything connected to every other thing is unnecessarily contrived.
On the other hand, I liked Gratien a lot more, both as a character and a tool of Jacopo's character development. He was executed flawlessly, with the notion of him always wanting to be the number 1 perfectly leading into his attack on Jacopo. My only disappointment with him is that he barely got any screentime after the beginning revolt.


I cried like a bitch when I saw Morgana's smile at the end.

>> No.19056260

>>19056225
>Would they actually bother to make every single country specific price? Could be worth it if so.

According to twitter, nearly every country is covered but not all have regional pricing yet. Some have been grouped together. Send them a support ticket, maybe your currency is in the pipeline?

At the very least, if you contact them while they're working on it you have a bigger chance of them considering adding it instead of later on when they stop modifying it.

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>>19056228
Fair enough.

>> No.19056800

Heh I told you JAST will be saving VNs

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>>19056228
And I finished the other side-stories and backstage, which were another two hours long. Aside from not liking Ceren's place in the story, it was a great read. Only thing I'm disappointed about is the epilogue ending where it did, and thus not getting to see any of Morgana's interactions with Giselle and Michel outside of the backstage. I guess there's the new story in the Vita version to satisfy that and maybe give some hope for her and Jacopo, but we probably won't ever see that translated, or the side games that are mentioned in the backstage, sadly.
I also revised this old graph I had laying around in light of the fan disc.

>> No.19057106

>>19057044
Whg should be in negative for how much they deserved it.

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>>19057044
>not getting to see any of Morgana's interactions with Giselle and Michel outside of the backstage.
This hurts too, but at the same time I've heard some mixed things about the Vita side stories. Plus, it just isn't the same without the original artist.

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>>19057106
Shit, you're right. With Ceren being where she is, I should've moved her across to match.

>>19057121
>but at the same time I've heard some mixed things about the Vita side stories
Damn. Is it the same author?
>Plus, it just isn't the same without the original artist.
This is definitely the most offputting part. Moyotaro's art is incredible, so finding out he was unwell and had to be replaced for the Vita release was sad news indeed. I'm glad he's better now, at least. Speaking of, are there scans of the art book around yet? I'd have bought it if there was a digital version, but they don't seem to want to offer one.

>> No.19057170

All-ages friends, stop.

>> No.19057186

>>19057165
>Damn. Is it the same author?
As far as I know.

>> No.19057418

Page 9.
Here's hope the thread last until tomorrow evening.

>> No.19057545

>>19047141
Wasn't she naked in the original sprites? I used to the ps3 sprites so I don't remember

>> No.19057699

>We love the folks at MG and have talked about it a couple times over the years. I'm sure we'll once again talk about it in the near future.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/8kjkiz/jast_usa_releases_regional_pricing_to_its_store/dz8e0lz/

JAST rep talking about potentially convincing MG about merging their storefronts.

>> No.19057735

>>19057545
Yes, she was naked in the original, Ryukishi-drawn sprites.

>> No.19057905

>And that’s it for our Anime Central announcements! A big thanks to everyone who attended the panel. We hope to see you all at Anime Expo in July!

Just under 2 months until more announcements.

>> No.19057961

I'm really happy with Funbag Fantasy 2 announcement.

>> No.19057965

Jim Sterling covered the Steam issue and showed MG's blog at the end of his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeMdPxXfEIM

>> No.19058112

>>19057961
I'd be more interested in Gaiden 2.

>> No.19058214

>>19058112
Looks like they are going by release date.
After this one, they should announce Gaiden 2.

>> No.19058334

Tsundere Idol seems to have been cleared by Steam, as Cherry Kiss is saying a May 28th release for it.

>> No.19059091

>>19058334
Cherry Kiss doesn't seem to be affected at all either so this doesn't seem like it will be too much of a big deal.

>> No.19059137

>>19059091
They seem to have failed at least one initial review before they made an acceptable Steam build.

You can still throw censored nukige onto Steam it just comes down to making the based Steam version censored enough. In the extreme, you could end up seeing more titles take the Subahibi approach and get to the point where they just intend for you to use the offsite patch.

>> No.19059171

>>19059091
Many recent VN releases have had a few rejected builds before they make one Steam approves of. As >>19059137 pointed out, that just means more content ends up on the off-site patch to restore the content.

>> No.19059237

Anyone got the progress updates from the stream?
They didn't post any on twitter (maybe tonight).

>> No.19059247

>>19059237

>>19054316
>>19054268
>>19054316
>>19054380
>>19054414
>>19054436
>>19054716

>> No.19059256

>>19059237
Someone posted a few as they went last night in this thread, but they probably misheard Quest, otherwise it lost progress and they missed Funbag Fantasy 2's.

Trinoline 95% translated, 64% edited.
Evenicle out of beta and is back into scripting.
Sengoku Rance beta soon.
Steam Prison 87% TL and editing.
Sisterly Bliss 100% TL and editing.

>> No.19059269

>>19059247
Neat and it seems like Funbag Fantasy 2 is already 57% translated and 50% edited.

>> No.19059292

>>19059247
Either the person who listed the updates grossly misheard Quest+Magnum's or something happened there.

84% tl + 19% editing
vs
90% tl + 74% editing

>> No.19059328

>>19059292
I watched the VOD and they said
93% TL 82% Editing

>> No.19059434

>>19059328
Only a year to go

>> No.19059458

Ready for Clover Days announcement tonight?

>> No.19059471

>>19059458
Isn't it tomorrow?

>> No.19059490

>>19059458
>>19059471
sekai's panel is sunday yeah

>> No.19059693

Looks like Dovac is salty about MangaGamer picking up that yuri fan translation and nobody is complaining about it.
>https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/997687283938725889

When will he learn that people aren't angry that they pick up fan translations. They are angry when they pick up fan translations and sit on them for years, release them still with mosaics and optionally make a kickstarter for them.

Leyline 1 is the best example of them picking up a fan translation and releasing it in such a horrible state where people couldn't even save their progress, they needed to switch to Jap. locale to actually launch it properly and lets not even talk about mosaics or the translation quality.

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>>19053726
Rather they are pushing the free ratings process to the IARC system, instead of continuing to offer the ESRB short rating system. Judging by the diagram on the IARC site, it is just generating ratings through a similar questionnaire that creates ratings for a bunch of regions (including an ESRB rating) and those generated ratings can be revised later as needed, instead of having individual ratings agencies run their own questionnaires for purely digital releases.

>> No.19059710

>>19059693
Only dumb normalfags aren't always in jap locale anyway

>> No.19059741

>>19059693
Or because the people that usually complain about that doesn't care about yuri

>> No.19059742

>>19059693
I saw complaints about it on fuwanovel though.

>> No.19059760

>>19059693
Fan TL pickups are pretty much the most boring announcements to me, but they're better than thinking the fan TL was dropped or wiped out via claims of harddrive failure.

>> No.19059780

>>19059693
Beyond that, I would also think fewer people who follow the industry closely care for Tsui Yuri than LeyLine.

>> No.19059806

>>19054355
I am hoping August.

>> No.19060107

https://www.change.org/p/valve-software-do-not-remove-huniepop-and-other-sexual-content-games-from-steam
dunno if this will accomplish anything but hey why not

>> No.19060169

Gentlemen, we've hit page 10.
See you tomorrow evening after SP panel. Probably at 4-5pm EDT/GMT-4.

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>>19060107
>change.org
>accomplishing anything

>> No.19060219

>>19060169
There is a separate thread up for Anime Central that was linked earlier in the thread, even if most of the discussion for the MG panel last night ended up being here.

>> No.19060235

>>19060183
Well there was Dark Souls on PC ages ago.

>> No.19060243

>>19060183
there have been a few cases where it's had an impact but mainly it's useless

>> No.19060325

>>19060107
Wait dont we actually hate VNs on Steam?

>> No.19060338

>>19060219
oh yeah.
>>>19051366

>> No.19060652

https://www.dualshockers.com/esrb-game-rating-options-physical-games/amp/

Turns out that the ESRB is allowing a free option for Indie devs.

>> No.19060668

https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/997979877977436160

>> No.19060689

>>19060668
>I have just received word from Valve apologizing for the confusion, saying to DISREGARD their previous e-mail about the violation, that they are in the process of re-reviewing the game and will follow up soon.

I just want to thank Jim Sterling and anyone famous and influential for this.

>> No.19060692

>>19060668
> should be clear this doesn't mean we're out of the woods. It just means we have an interesting development. Whatever the case, the communication and clarification from Valve is very, very much appreciated.

https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/997982286627794944

>> No.19060742

https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/997984334480052226

MG got the same email. I have to think Kindred Spirits should be fine because it was accepted the first time and the content is relatively tame and there isn't going to be any explicit content within the title itself, unlike Huniepop's "unlock" patch.

>> No.19060781

>>19060742
I think all games and companies will be fine. It seems like it most likely was just troll reports or something.

>> No.19060842

>>19060781
They may still need to get rid of the nudity though, the email from Valve just says they are being re-reviewed and Valve's new review process has been far stricter in since the beginning of Spring.

>> No.19061030

No surprise, but Sekai and Nekoworks also both got the same email from Valve.

>> No.19061208

>>19060781
Even if they get the all clear with the re-review it doesn't stop the fact that it got to the stage where they sent out emails about takedowns. Ends up being pretty worrying, as there still should be a person/team behind the review process who would then authorise the emails and they decided to go along with what ever was in the reports without really doing their job properly.
I imagine if there wasn't such a stink about it, where it got on to most popular gaming news sites, they would have gone through with it without any kind of re-review and swept it under the rug. This could end up being the norm in the future where a mass report on low selling titles (which affects lots of VNs) is enough to get something taken down without them actually doing a proper review process on it.

>> No.19061317

>>19061208
>as there still should be a person/team behind the review process who would then authorise the emails and they decided to go along with what ever was in the reports without really doing their job properly.
Was there ever any doubt? Don't tell me you expected Valve's employees to actually give a shit.

>> No.19061335

>>19059693
A lot of people didn't know that it was a fan translation. It's not a high profile one after all. A lot of people complained about Haruka because it stalled Rance VI

>> No.19061450

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/solpress/newton-and-the-apple-tree-a-visual-novel-by-laplac/posts/2192013
So newton is almost done but will be delayed due to the steam approval process, they're estimating early June now.

>> No.19061481

>>19059693
I think the discrepancy is that Sekai picks up fan tl and everyone complains about them but when MG does it nobody gets mad. But like you mentioned it's the fact they really do not put in the time in it or even buy the license and then low-ball the guys that put in the years worth of work into it. But don't worry Dovac like you said "nobody cares about quality" and this is the result you are seeing.

>> No.19061502

>>19060668
Thank God for everyone including Jim Sterling. We need more people to stand against censorship. Especially when it's needed most.

>> No.19061510

>>19061208
Valve has no management. Always remember that.

>> No.19061552

>>19061450
Newton looks really good but is the game solid storyline wise though?

>> No.19061591

>>19061552
It read like a nukige to me.

>> No.19061747

>>19061591
It reads like you didn't read the game.

>> No.19061788

>>19061747
It wasn't very good, but maybe the full story is better than what the demo had.

>> No.19061805

>>19061747
The game allows you to see all the h-scenes it has from the very start instead of playing.

The first scene is very anime-ish, you wake up groping two girls

>> No.19061833

>>19061805
I guessed that was just because of the demo.
To show off the sex scenes and stuff.

>> No.19061851

>>19061833
Hopefully that's the case, because if not then I don't have very high hopes for it. And to be honest that's very unusual for a demo, so I'm not sure I believe the full game won't be like that.

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I bet 10 bucks that Mangagamer is going to announce Tenpure next year.

>> No.19061946

>>19061936
I don't think Dal Segno did that well and this looks even worse.

>> No.19061948

>>19061936
If you're basing it on their AC merch, then don't hold your breath. MG has sold merch for a ton of VNs that they never ended up licensing.

>> No.19061971

>>19061936
>>19061948
If Da Capo 3 and Dal Segno did well enough to make a profit, then Tenpure is the obvious followup and it wouldn't be a surprise to see it announced this Summer. Circus after all is one of the companies with a heavy involvement within MangaGamer. The only question is how they did, but MG seemed happy with Da Capo 3 at least with their initial comments.

>> No.19061983

>>19061552
Yes, it's basically in a medium between a plotge and a charage. Not a lot of ichaicha, pacing is very fast.

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