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DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #1932 Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 11:49:04 No.19011899 [Reply] [Original]

This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.

Read the Guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
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https://djtguide.neocities.org/cor.html

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>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 11:51:43 No.19011916 File: 10 KB, 61x116, キャプチャ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone can help me what this Kanji is?

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 11:54:36 No.19011930

Just a reminder that there's a little under two months to prepare for the test many of us aim to pass at its 5 levels.

It's plenty of time to pick up the pace and get through a bunch of material, so don't let yourself down!

I'm going to be going for my N2 after almost 3 years of studying, but I feel super confident and just need to make sure I fully know my grammar (my biggest weakness).

7 weeks is enough time to learn 500-1000 new words (decently comfortably) or to get through any of those grammar books you've almost finished!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 11:55:13 No.19011935 >>19011916 丨

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 11:56:35 No.19011943 >>19011930 https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/8iw0id/7_weeks_until_jlpt/

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:00:40 No.19011966
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>>19011899
Since the djtguide.neocities page has long since been actively maintained, how does everything think of an idea to move it to a wiki format where anons can add their own edits, etc.?

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Starting_and_Running_a_Wiki_Website/Hosted_Wikis
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services

The neocities hub is really nice but as a community project is has ultimately failed.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:02:00 No.19011977 >>19011966 this

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:03:06 No.19011986 >>19011966 I'll make the logo.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:07:57 No.19012013 >>19011966 Do it

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:08:12 No.19012016 >>19011930 >>19011943 would you guys say that these people's japanese sucks dick?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:10:01 No.19012027 >>19011966 Spend 5 dollars a month on a cheap VPS and install moinmoinwiki on it. Profit.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:15:53 No.19012058 >>19011966 >where anons can add their own edits That sounds like a terrible idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:20:20 No.19012085 >>19012058 Ever heard of Wikipedia?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:21:47 No.19012096 >>19012085 Yeah but that has a horde of editors and checkers to make sure it doesn't get vandalized. Not to mention nearly every article is heavily sourced. What would we even put on a wiki?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:23:15 No.19012107 >>19012096 Read the guide

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:23:47 No.19012116

Let's remember to not be an elitist to fellow learners

Everyone is at different stages and improve at different rates. I've seen lots of stories here about being put down from friends about the interest in learning and people who keep it to themselves for that reason. It would be even more discouraging to be put down by those who should be your peers.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:25:04 No.19012125 >>19012107 The guide is fine. I'd make a few pretty minor changes, but overall it points people in the right direction.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:25:24 No.19012128 >>19012116 I kinda beat myself for how some of you seem to get around a 1000 kanji a year and to N3 or so in a year. Like how?!? Is that the only subject you guys focus on?! I don't need elitists to berate me, I do it to myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:27:33 No.19012137 >>19012128 Getting to N3 through self-study in itself is an achievement. Most people would learn hiragana/katakana, read a little bit of Tae Kim and give up.

>>	yes i know i just did Sat, May 12, 2018 12:28:11 No.19012143 >>19012128 Don't respond to r*ddit posts

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:29:43 No.19012151

>>19011916
So this will probably come off as a n0ob question, but I'm looking for a serious answer. I'm working through RTK right now handmaking flashcards and I always write them with their given stroke order. However sometimes when reviewing and rewriting I'll forget the stroke order of some and just write them in a different order to achieve their form. Every resource, from RTK to this sub constantly harps on correct stroke order and I'm just curious why it's so important. I don't go out of my way to write them in a different order but when I do and achieve the same final Kanji product I don't see why the order is as important as it's made out to be. So what are your reasons for why stroke order is important? I'm not challenging, just genuinely curious.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:29:58 No.19012155

Decided to start my Japanese classes this semseter and boy did I learn a lot. We got to chapter 7 in the Genki book but I learned so much. It is summer so no classes, and I was wondering what's a good way to try and get a bit ahead? should I start learning more Kanji or what can I read/watch to stay active in it?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:30:03 No.19012157 >>19012137 How else would you get to N3?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:30:11 No.19012158 Is learning Japanese the hardest task you've ever done in your life?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:30:58 No.19012162 >>19012158 no the hardest task i've ever done is finding happiness and i havent even done it yet

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:31:01 No.19012163

>>19012155
Hey! Don’t lose motivation! Learning a new language is hard but so rewarding I feel! For me, I definitely struggle with adjectives. I can’t remember them, and I forget whether it’s an い or な conjugation. But I know with practice I’ll learn it. Don’t give up my dude!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:32:18 No.19012176 >>19012157 I mean that the vast majority of people need to be handheld in a class or by a tutor to get to N3. It takes a lot of discipline to even get on the track to learning Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:32:42 No.19012177 >>19012151 I talked to a Japanese girl and she said many people in Japan don't really care about the exact stroke order.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:34:05 No.19012184

How should I go about Learning Kanji?

I'm still fairly beginner in Japanese, and I'm wondering how I should go about learning Kanji. I was originally planning to wait until the end and save Kanji for last, but I'm afraid that if I do that I won't know exactly what words have what Kanji because of the multiple readings and all that. So is the more ideal option to just learn new words in their Kanji form and learn it like that?

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:35:25 No.19012190

>>19012151
from what ive always been told from teachers is that it's an art/ tradition type thing, and although we cant tell the difference most Japanese definitely can. basically said it makes you look like a dumb foreigner who doesn't care about the rules. i don't know if that's true but that's what I've been told. also i personally think that's the only real difference between シ and ツ on paper.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:37:40 No.19012198

>>19012184
The hardest thing about learning kanji is that there is many layers to learn. What I mean is, learning a vocabulary is like 学生. Sure, you can learn the word means "student", but you also need to recognize the two kanji at play AND also learn how to read the word. That means to learn a new word, you are learning at least 3 things at once to really learn it. When you are learning so many things at once, your brain tends to skip certain details. One gap that happens a lot is that you'll likely can't tell the difference between 獲 and 穫 in different kanji contexts unless you really focusing on the radicals.

This is why I advocate to break down the learnings from 3+ things at once to focusing learning one thing at once. This is also why some people can learn 50 vocab a day instead of 10. Those people are not learning 3+ things at once per vocab at that pace. If you knew the meaning of a kanji, learning a vocab is just learning the readings and associating the individual kanji meanings to the vocab meaning. That's at least one less thing to have to learn. The real difference is that you are not starting from zero which makes a world of difference. For example, by knowing 学's meaning and on reading, it's a lot easier to learn 学生、学校、留学、学歴、化学, etc..

I'm not saying you can't learn kanji by vocab, it does work, but it's just incredibly hard if you really think hard how much load to do so. And generally you aren't enforcing the meanings of individual kanjis. It may take you months until you put two and two together what a particular kanji might mean from the vocabularies you had learned. People always argue that native speakers learn kanji from vocab not from individual kanji. That's true, but realize that native speakers are fluent by learning how to speak. For a 5 year old native that have never seen the word 学生, once they learned the sound of those weird symbols, they just have to associated what they already know. Essentially, they are not learning the meaning or the sound, they just have to match what already know to those kanjis which is relatively trivial. While we are trying to learn all the details of a word all at once which is insane.

I don't have really specific tips on learning readings but as long as you are chunking it, you'll do fine. I feel like most of the response here is to learn the readings from learning the vocab, I think that is really not optimal. At least from experience, it's not the best way to tackle this beast. Another way to think about it is that there are limited number of common kanjis, there are infinite number of vocab. I would feel overwhelmed to try to hope to learn those limited kanji by learning vocab. Those that have been through it knows that once you have kanji handled(at the very least, some broad meaning of the kanji), learning new vocab is so much easier. Again, it's just one less thing to learn at once.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:39:30 No.19012211 welp it was nice knowing you guys i'm going to go over to the eroge japanese thread, not to be confused with the untranslated eroge thread

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:41:23 No.19012224 >>19012211 Can I tag along?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:41:37 No.19012227 >>19012224 yeah if you make it

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:44:47 No.19012242 Is this the genki study group? Sorry I'm late. What'd you guys get for question 7 chapter 2?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:45:52 No.19012249 >>19012242 i asked my japanese boyfriend for help on this task and he said "watasi wa gei" so idk but i think its right

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 12:53:10 No.19012287 >>19012249 LOL! Nice. I wish I had a Japanese bf ): nothing but pale white boys in my town

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:02:25 No.19012350

>>19012287
so my fiance is half Japanese, he knows just about as much as I do but neither of us are that proficient. id say we're intermediate level. I started learning just because i wanted a challenge in school but now i really want to be able to speak to this family I'm marrying into. plus I mean I imagine its kinda lonely for his mom not getting to speak her own language often. TANGENT ASIDE, the majority of his Japanese family stayed in Japan, and don't know much English. once I do get to meet them I wanna make a good impression. how should I go about introducing myself to the grandparents though, does that require an extra level of politeness or am i gonna come off as rude with the typical 始めまして、どうぞ宜しく。旅行どうだった？ yada yada would that seem insincere? am i overthinking it? probably. especially since I'm probably meeting them at the wedding i wanna make sure I know what to say/what's ok to say so i don't stress about it. also, tell me if what I said above is weird in general im really rusty I might've mis-typed

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:04:50 No.19012367 朝から晩まで2chを１分単位でﾘﾛｰﾄﾞするﾈｯﾄ廃人。現実でもﾈｯﾄでも誰にも相手にされない全生物の最底辺のｺﾞｷﾌﾞﾘや蛆虫以下の存在。２次元ｷｬﾗを嫁と思い込んでおり、少しでも叩かれると火病る。部屋はﾍﾟｯﾄﾎﾞﾄﾙ尿とゴミとフィギュアの山。萌えｷｬﾗのﾎﾟｽﾀｰに白いしみだらけ。親からは見捨てられ、殺されかけたことがあるので部屋を厳重に施錠している。

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:06:25 No.19012375 File: 299 KB, 651x947, djt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man: DJT Girl: anti-DJT

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:08:32 No.19012386 >>19012367 >ﾘﾛｰﾄﾞ >ﾈｯﾄ >ﾍﾟｯﾄﾎﾞﾄﾙどうして

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:10:24 No.19012397 clips.twitch dot tv/TacitSavoryWaspNerfRedBlaster The mad man actually did it!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:12:13 No.19012410 >>19012386 エステティックだから

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:13:39 No.19012421 俺ウーパールーパーだぜ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:15:37 No.19012437 >>19012397 youve discovered my true identity its all over

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:16:54 No.19012449 File: 56 KB, 636x562, fgyhr65hg6u.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] minna genki?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:22:53 No.19012489 why does everyone hate reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:24:36 No.19012498 i dont hate reddit but i also dont go to reddit i imagine most people who hate reddit also go to reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:25:40 No.19012509 >>19012397 >twitch You really have to go back.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:39:06 No.19012594 If you don't tell him you're genki he ain't gonna stop asking.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:40:45 No.19012609 >>19012410 ｼﾞｻﾂしろ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:43:32 No.19012628 Is it just 1 guy autistically posting reddit? Cause the entire fucking thread is chock full of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:45:04 No.19012640 >>19012628 yes

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:49:40 No.19012670 >>19012628 >1 guy No. I was the original but it seems other people doing it now too

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:51:50 No.19012684 Do you sit on a card for a minute and try to force yourself to remember it or do you blitz through cards, getting many wrong but knowing you'll remember them eventually?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:51:56 No.19012686 >>19012628 How do you distinguish between reddit posts?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:52:48 No.19012695 >>19012684 Just blitz. Even if you have to see it tomorrow it will still be less time than sitting there trying to remember for a minute

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:54:02 No.19012704 >>19012686 They don't look natural to somebody who doesn't go there.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:58:00 No.19012736

>>19011930
>>19012116
>>19012151
>>19012155
>>19012184
>>19012198
>>19012350

There you go>>19012686

You can tell because they are usually long as fuck when the question/statement could have been condensed into 1/5th the length. They also are always full of useless blog type info because redditos are apparently narcissistic as fuck for some reason and feel the need to include their entire life's context in a question about learning a fucking language.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:58:43 No.19012740 >>19012594 thats not the clear condition

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 13:58:43 No.19012741 >>19012686 Hi Please post each sentence on a different line. Large blocks of text intimidate the differently-abled. Thanks

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:01:16 No.19012753

>>19012704
The problem with redditors isn't that they visit reddit, but that there's a particular type of retardation associated with the average person that visits that site. As some have pointed out in this thread, you can't understand why reddit is bad unless you visit there.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:03:27 No.19012768 [DELETED]

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nigga been studying for a year and already thinks he's a linguist expert

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:04:32 No.19012774

I'm looking to study abroad in Tokyo at a language school in about 6 months and figured I have quite a bit of time to self study to try and place myself past the intro level.

The school I'm looking at has the level 2 course starting at the N5 level. Would completing Genki I in all aspects (reading, kanji, writing, grammar) be sufficient to reach the N5 level? I'm already half-way through with the first book of Genki so I should have plenty of time to make sure I learn all the content from this book.

Is there any other recommended material to help reach N5 so I can make sure I can pass the placement test and skip the entry level class?

Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:06:05 No.19012781 >>19012774 >Thanks You're welcome

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:09:30 No.19012793 is lick g the greatest of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwTGLqgDkzA&t=919

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:11:59 No.19012801 >>19012670 Please explain why you were doing it. What were you trying to achieve?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:12:10 No.19012802 >>19012793 Rap isn't music.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:13:31 No.19012811 >>19012801 Have you ever done it? Fucking try it, it gives me such a big rush it's incredible, especially when you get 2 or more serious replies I literally cannot stop shaking. Try it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:13:39 No.19012813 >>19012802 your posting isnt good

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:14:24 No.19012818 What sites have raw manga that I can read? I'll be travelling on phone and won't have good enough net to download them

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:14:54 No.19012823 >>19012813 Your words aren't posts. >>19012818 Manga isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:15:10 No.19012826 >>19012811 i bet you wear girls underwear under your clothes in public and walk around with a giant boner reveling in your deviancy lol

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:15:28 No.19012829

>>19012801
I just found really dumb people on r*ddit and wanted to give folks here a laugh. I was originally from there because I wasn't sure which 4chan board had Japanese learning thread on it. But yeah, they let me astray for a few months so fuck them, let's make fun of them

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:16:11 No.19012833 >>19012829 you still arent rolling with the winning team dude

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:16:22 No.19012835 >>19012375 Cute. Sauce?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:17:03 No.19012842 >>19012833 I can't afford the AJATT discord

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:17:10 No.19012843 >>19012826 I would do it if I were a trap, I'm too muscular & tall though

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:17:52 No.19012846 >>19012823 What sites have raw manga that I can stare at and understand the words on the pages?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:18:07 No.19012848 >>19012842 nobodys winning on any discord anywhere

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:18:56 No.19012850

>>19012848
So, I've lived in Japan for two years now.

Since week one, a small family that owns a fish shop has very kindly had me over every week for dinner and conversation. Every year, during our town's official matsuri they ask me to pull the float associated with their neighborhood and I happily accept. I've made friends with a few of the people who come home to this town for the matsuri, also.

A few months ago, I met another old couple. This couple much older, much, much richer and (by what it sounds like when I talk to other people) of incredibly high notoriety in the city. I've been to their home for dinner three times and also invited to a houji for the husband's father. They often try to ask me to join their team instead, but I personally would prefer to continue with the team I originally joined. (I also meet with that family far more often and know them much better). Also the next matsuri will the its 400th anniversary and the fish shop family takes the festival very seriously.

Is accepting this other family's request inevitable or is there a polite way that I can decline?

Suggestions, ways of phrasing, etc. would be greatly appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:19:40 No.19012853 >>19012843 but then it would just make you a even bigger deviant hentai bitch just give in to your hearts desire

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:19:48 No.19012854 How do I disguise my reddit posts here so when I post it people reply honestly?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:20:40 No.19012855 >>19012854 here ill show you whats the difference between は and が

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:22:19 No.19012870 >>19012855 One marks the topic and one doesn't

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:23:40 No.19012881 >>19012736 You missed this one >>19012190

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:23:48 No.19012882 >>19012855 one is a case marker and the other only is in set phrases

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:24:45 No.19012890 File: 66 KB, 485x360, 顔.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19012835 It's the DJT classic 絶対霊域

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:25:19 No.19012893 >>19012890 絶対霊域 taught me more Japanese than any Anki deck or grammar guide did.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:25:31 No.19012894 >>19012853 It's not my desire

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:27:09 No.19012908 >>19012893 I dunno whether I learned things from it or not, but it seems like I'll "know" Japanese by the time that I finish it (it's not my main reading)

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:29:23 No.19012922 test〰

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:30:16 No.19012927 icles

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:38:32 No.19012962 I'm learning Japanese so I can have better communication with my wife, 02 from the anime Darring in the Franxxxu

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:39:17 No.19012964 >>19012962 kanasii

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:39:42 No.19012966 File: 532 KB, 715x1013, 1524978002358.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone hear read any Nitro+ stuff? How difficult would you say they are?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:39:49 No.19012968 >>19012962 fuck off to >>>/a/

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:40:26 No.19012973

Raws are shit quality but I can read them without worrying about shit translation.
Scanlations are great quality after cleaning but have shitty guesslations.
Importing physical manga is costly and waiting for the next batch is agonizing, not to mention how much space they start taking up after a while.
What the fuck is a nerd to do? What's your poison of choice?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:42:08 No.19012978 あなたの言い訳は聞きたくありません。 Why did he attach ありません to 聞く even though it should be attached to nouns and adjectives?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:42:16 No.19012980 >>19012968 But there is no DJT on /a/. I need to understand my zero tsu

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:43:41 No.19012986 >>19012978 It's just the polite form of 聞きたくない

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:44:03 No.19012988

>>19012973
>Raws are shit quality but I can read them without worrying about shit translation.
download good quality raws
>Scanlations are great quality after cleaning but have shitty guesslations.
who the fuck cares this isn't the daily scanlation thread faggot
>Importing physical manga is costly and waiting for the next batch is agonizing, not to mention how much space they start taking up after a while.
stop being an unpatient cunt and get some book shelves

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:44:04 No.19012989 How was /djt/ back in the days on /a/?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:44:30 No.19012993 >>19012890 Oh, that's his brother then. I've only read the first two or three volumes but don't remember that. Should finish reading it, sort of became busy and started reading something else after and forgot about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:45:22 No.19013000 >>19012988 >good quality raws No such thing, unless you count porn.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:45:28 No.19013001 >>19012989 pretty fuckin bad thats why it got kettobase`d here

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:46:41 No.19013010 >>19012988 >good quality raws Good fucking luck, dude. There's a reason most scanlation groups have a whole guy dedicated to cleaning that shit up.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:47:05 No.19013012 >>19013001 That's not why /djt/ got pushed to /jp.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:47:11 No.19013013

>>19012973
>Raws are shit quality
There are a great many raws out there and many high quality among them.
>What the fuck is a nerd to do?
Try becoming experienced with raws because it is clear that you have no do not really have knowledge of what you are talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:47:19 No.19013015 >>19013000 stop complaining about the low quality of stolen comic book scans and buy digital manga then dumb retard

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:48:54 No.19013022 >>19013000 >>19013010 Neither of you have read much manga this is obvious. Stop commenting on quality and start reading. One bad experience is not universal or else raw manga online would not be popular with native readers.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:50:19 No.19013030 >>19013015 Gladly, now point me where I can buy high digital manga without retarded drms. >>19013022 Give me one example of manga with consistently good quality raws.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:50:44 No.19013033
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http://opencoglab.org/memtest1/
What score do you get on this memory test?

I'm going to assume there is a rough correlation between score on this test and ability to remember Jap words, but there's a difference between short and longterm memory so that will offset things. Pic related. I can't remember shit so I'm assuming everyone else will score higher.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:51:18 No.19013037 >>19013030 one punch man watamote literally any manga available online officially (that means lots)

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:51:48 No.19013040 >>19013030 doraemon

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:52:10 No.19013042 >>19013013 Sorry dude but raw quality dropped off a cliff the moment that Japanese pirates could start using ebooks instead of having to scan things themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:52:20 No.19013043 >>19013033 Don't fucking click this shit it's virus.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:53:16 No.19013045 >>19013043 Trolling takes guts and intelligence. Take the test and let me know your score. I'm going to estimate it's above 50.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:55:01 No.19013055 >>19013043 I don't know where you learned this joke from but it's really stupid. Not in a "ha ha it's so stupid and annoying it can't help but make me laugh" way, it's literally just stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:57:28 No.19013064 >>19013055 It's not stupid, he's correct. Anything that requires more than HTML to function on the web is pretty much malware.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 14:59:16 No.19013073 >>19013064 The only external js used is jquery, which is free software. The embedded JS is non-obfuscated, which effectively makes it public domain in some countries.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:01:37 No.19013082 File: 9 KB, 181x113, 4eg65hftgy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 i took the test and then even did the survey but this triggered me so bad i closed the entire thing immediately and didnt even see my score

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:01:41 No.19013084 File: 24 KB, 540x332, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 I have a 85-90% retention rate in Anki but I use physical flash cards to memorize new words. I can't remember shit from a screen.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:02:32 No.19013089 File: 12 KB, 693x413, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013045 How'd I do 大将

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:04:31 No.19013106 File: 4 KB, 391x65, 2018-05-12 14_02_57-OCL Working Memory Test.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 am i nihongo yet

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:04:44 No.19013108 >>19013073 Why don't they host it on their servers instead of pulling it from goolag?

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:04:57 No.19013111

>>19013033
Got 32. I have severely impaired memory due to trauma and I find it crippling when studying (was studying computer science - only got to 2nd year, barely getting by. Currently I'm doing an online programming course and it takes me much more time than it should).

I mean that stuff is really bad - I actually have a psychological opinion saying that, so I don't know how such result can be considered within "norm".
I wouldn't be suprised if it's within "norm" only because people are often lowering their scores by selecting symbols they weren't sure about.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:05:32 No.19013115 >>19013108 Then they would be harvesting your data in their logs. Use your brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:05:59 No.19013117 >>19013106 depends dude can you get that score if it was all kanji lol

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:06:35 No.19013119 >>19013117 not him but I'm positive that test would actually be a lot easier if it was kanji

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:07:19 No.19013122 >>19013117 Lowercase-kun why are you so dumb?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:08:22 No.19013127 >>19013119 i wouldnt be so sure dude it would really depend if youre nihongo.. >>19013122 because your face

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:08:35 No.19013130 >>19013115 Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:11:16 No.19013158 File: 3 KB, 534x334, 1504832855115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 No surprise here. My memory is terrible.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:12:50 No.19013169 >>19013033 This test is actually a good way to filter dekinais, we should put it in the OP

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:14:28 No.19013176 >>19013169 but posting itt is already a great indicator

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:15:05 No.19013182 Do the Japanese have a word for DLC? As in, "Download Content." Optional things for a video game that usually cost money.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:16:25 No.19013189 >>19013182 the very aptly named ダウンロードコンテンツ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:16:31 No.19013190 >>19013182 ダウンロードコンテンツ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:17:03 No.19013193 I was originally gonna start reading at 1500 words but I'm at 700 and getting real bored of just anki. There's not a really big difference between starting at 1000 vs 1500 right?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:17:17 No.19013195 >>19013182 追加コンテンツ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:19:00 No.19013208 >>19013193 No reason to wait. No matter how big your vocab base feels, you're gonna be looking shit up like crazy for the first few years of your studies.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:19:28 No.19013212 >>19013182 散財コンテンツ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:20:51 No.19013225 >>19013182 ゲイコンテンツ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:21:37 No.19013227 >>19013033 51 here

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:22:24 No.19013238 >>19013182 ヘテロコンテンツッ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:23:56 No.19013250 >>19013212 That applies to the whole gaming industry.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:24:40 No.19013254 >>19013250 にん

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:26:33 No.19013269 here i bring the nihongo learning to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qK--XPppsE

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:30:41 No.19013288 >>19013033 50

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:32:26 No.19013300 Fuck it I'm not doing any new cards today

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:33:30 No.19013302 >>19013300 But that's the most pleasant part of doing anki.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:33:38 No.19013303 >>19013300 good choice what are you gonna do instead

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:34:44 No.19013308 >manga text can't be highlighted since they're just images/scans >have to type in the hiragana in a virtual japanese keyboard in order to painstakingly translate Cya.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:35:12 No.19013309 >>19013302 Reviews are way more fun for me >>19013303 Read a bit of TK, ave a wank and try to figure out what I want to start my reading journey with

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:35:59 No.19013311 >>19013309 I think you're broken.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:36:11 No.19013314 >>19013309 great disappointment

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:37:34 No.19013322 >>19013308 didn't know the theory of natural selection applied to japanese learning too

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:37:45 No.19013324 >>19012890 This shit is somehow really good, in a way you don't expect from the gag manga. Or maybe it's just the effort of reading it in Japanese giving this impression.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:39:16 No.19013334 >>19013314 How come? I'm gonna start reading a full month before I had originally planned >>19013311 I'm aware

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:40:09 No.19013344 >>19013269 Any confirmation that he really is gay? I'm not taking lessons from a fucking imposter.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:40:58 No.19013349 >>19013344 he has a really wet nasty lisp that creeps in sometimes

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:41:05 No.19013350 >>19013033 49, probably would have gotten a little higher since someone interrupted during one of the questions. I have a 80% retention in Anki though.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:42:57 No.19013361 What's the most stupid question you've ever asked on /djt/?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:44:00 No.19013369 >>19013361 Can I learn japanese

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:44:44 No.19013374 >>19013361 I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as /djt/, is in fact, DJT, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, OJT.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:46:31 No.19013383 >>19013033 >38 I guess I'm average.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:48:48 No.19013395 >>19013374 my 肉棒 would like to interject with your 眼孔

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:50:21 No.19013403 File: 82 KB, 750x721, Cat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 I got a 40. I feel like such a brainlet now.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:51:33 No.19013412 >>19013403 I feel like most who scored below 43 just aren't concentrating enough because there is no way in hell you're less competent than I am.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:53:34 No.19013423 >>19013374 Here's a (you) for the effort.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 15:54:39 No.19013430 >>19013403 epic memory test tip: just scream the symbols out (use your epic skills heisig heika taught you) as loud as you can as they appear and then say them again from the beginning

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:05:14 No.19013468 File: 6 KB, 546x352, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013430 With this knowledge I can now learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:08:10 No.19013477 What to listen while reading Japanese? >0-3 Filosofem >4-6 Memphis Rap >7-9 Ki-Oku >0 Chopin

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:09:35 No.19013483 >>19013477 kokujin tensai

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:14:47 No.19013498 >>19013468 わたしそこまで言ってないんすけど

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:17:05 No.19013505

>>19013033
I had to skip a lot of the number/letter combinations because I couldn't easily read them (even after adjusting my browser up to 200%). I'm sure that has a huge effect. So, if I were to make a suggestion on increasing accuracy of measurement for data collection purposes, it would be to address the size/resolution of the graphics.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:18:58 No.19013510 >>19013505 >So, if I were to make a suggestion on increasing accuracy of measurement for data collection purposes, it would be to address the size/resolution of the graphics. Who the fuck are you talking to

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:23:08 No.19013524 >>19013510 that is a comment from that website.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:25:48 No.19013535 >>19013510 If I were you, I'd kill myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:27:51 No.19013549 File: 81 KB, 736x680, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] みんな元気¿

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:32:39 No.19013568 >>19013549 うぴょ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:32:45 No.19013569 File: 152 KB, 362x480, dMecNcX.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013549 怖いよ！変な女の子だねでも、　今は元気すぎる

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:33:22 No.19013573 >>19013549 ¡アイカランバ!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:37:56 No.19013594 Reminder that you need to learn Chinese if you ever want a full understanding of kanji and tones in Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:38:11 No.19013595 TIL: theres no direct translation in english for 確認

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:38:54 No.19013598 >>19013594 Good thing I started learning Chinese via doujinshi the other day. Just like how I started with Japanese! >>19013595 There are several.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:38:57 No.19013599 >>19013594 there are no tones in nihongo

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:43:36 No.19013618 File: 265 KB, 1915x929, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone help me with this error when i try to open anki

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:44:13 No.19013622 >>19013618 やりたくなければやめましょう。

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:44:25 No.19013623 >>19013599 t. clueless gaijin

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:47:17 No.19013636 >>19013622 適当に生きましょうよ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:47:27 No.19013640 >>19013618 あなたのパソコンは自閉症です

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:47:39 No.19013642 っつーべ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:53:57 No.19013661 >>19013640 キミのアタマのほうがもっと精神病っぽいパソコンだけど

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 16:58:06 No.19013678

>>19013033
53 while slightly intoxicated here. However I don't feel like my memory is that great. I lowered my new cards in Anki to 10 a day since I was spending more than an hour a day on 20.

However this kind of makes me suspect even stronger that I don't have that great memory but the rest of the world is just incredibly stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:06:49 No.19013722 File: 11 KB, 621x416, Screenshot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:31:07 No.19013834 >>19013033 I got 26, I thought the ones with small numbers were broken and ignored them, should I redo it?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:33:23 No.19013842 >>19013678 >I don't have that great memory but the rest of the world is just incredibly stupid. You drink ethanol voluntarily and call the rest of the world stupid?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:38:35 No.19013860 >>19013842 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:40:20 No.19013866 >>19013842 I know I'm kinda stupid. However if my score is way above the average score than the rest of the world must be more stupid hence I called the average human incredibly stupid if this is any metric to go by.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:40:41 No.19013867 I know it's too hard for me, I keep telling myself I will stop reading it after those lines, yet I'm still reading it and I can't stop

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:41:43 No.19013872 >>19013866 dont worry dude calling stuff stupid is making you look more intelligent by the second

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:45:36 No.19013880 >>19013872 Don't worry about that. I'm not that intelligent to begin with. Maybe you're a really smart person, if so go celebrate it. However I'm concerned that the average human might be more stupid then me which concerns me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:47:31 No.19013887 >>19013880 intelligence and short term memory are pretty unrelated though i think also it doesnt matter if someones a genius or if theyre retarded if the people around them dont understand them because both will look the same in a lot of ways

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:47:46 No.19013889 >>19013880 Why do you think a memory test has any validation of a persons IQ? Are you really that stupid?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:49:59 No.19013901 >>19013889 Digit recall is a part of IQ tests. Why wouldn't symbol recall relate to it? No one is saying it's anywhere near a perfect predictor, but to assume it has "no" predictive power? Come on.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:54:32 No.19013935 >implying scoring high on an IQ test makes you more intelligent than someone who scored lower >implying it does anything except prove you're good at IQ tests designed by "psychologists"

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:56:30 No.19013942

>>19013889
I already said I'm a dekinai so I won't defend that part. It's just like >>19013901 said that it could possibly mean something along the lines that the average person could potentially be a bigger dekinai then me.

However we might as well stop this pointless discussion since it would make us stupid enough to distract us of our precious 日本語 studying time.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:57:27 No.19013950 >>19013935 t. 80 IQ brainlet

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:58:27 No.19013953

>>19013935
>implying it does anything except prove you're good at IQ tests designed by "psychologists"
Absolutely not true and it's sad how proudly ignorant people are about this subject. Intelligence research is far more rigorous than the layperson gives it credit for. Look up Stuart Richie and Richard Haier's thoughts on IQ. Both are intelligence researchers and the latter owns the most prestigious journal that deals with intelligence research. This isn't really the thread to talk about this so you should defer to them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:59:33 No.19013959 >>19013033 Got 49. I feel like I have pretty good memory when using flashcards and remembering computer stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 17:59:41 No.19013960 >>19013953 >owns heads*

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:04:15 No.19013985 >>19012013 >>19012027 useless

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:04:25 No.19013988 this one goes out to all my smart dumb autistic schizophrenic and of sound mind friends in \djt/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMpB6NosM3Y

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:05:48 No.19014000 >>19013988 Rap is not music. Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:06:09 No.19014004 >>19014000 give it a rest you cant win against me

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:15:52 No.19014055 File: 12 KB, 509x404, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 Some of the symbols didn't work properly but got a better score than I thought I would. Was expecting a below average score

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:16:59 No.19014061 File: 198 KB, 635x602, hawking_iq.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 18:19:35 No.19014077 >>19014061 yea well hes also fuckin dead shows how much of a winner he was

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 19:40:00 No.19014489 File: 1.09 MB, 2896x4096, 1520476177621.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 19:43:49 No.19014509 >>19014489 >sensei heh i thought japanese was hard?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 19:45:16 No.19014519 >>19014489 先生のディス力で草

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 19:52:12 No.19014565 File: 66 KB, 712x480, bdfhbvgytrvrtbiut5urh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 19:55:50 No.19014585 >>19014489 more words please

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:24:43 No.19014751 >>19014061 This is just something high IQ people say because they want to think their success is down to hard work and not a genetic advantage. The truth is Stephen Hawking would have been a nobody had his IQ been less than 145.

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:31:58 No.19014785

Others might disagree and you all can make up your own minds, but I personally think learning Kanji is essential. They take time to learn at first, but repay you dividends later on when you accumulate vocabulary basically without thinking, passively, by reading or watching subtitled shows. Plus, any resource you'll use past the beginner stage will require kanji.. meaning if you don't learn them, you can't use these resources, and gimp yourself down the road. They're incredibly logical and like legos.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:35:06 No.19014791 File: 43 KB, 598x694, 1430074552330.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >in the very midst of the weekend >thread is dead and has been for hours And you have the brazenness to tell people to go to /int/.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:35:24 No.19014793 >>19014785 You don't even need to learn how to read at all

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:36:41 No.19014800 >>19014793 Then how are you supposed to do really quick, dirty, garbage translations for Doujins and other shit for people on 4chan whom you sympathize with?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:36:55 No.19014803 >>19014785 hanguls are like legos kanji are definitely not

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:38:37 No.19014813 >>19014791 God I wish that were me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:43:09 No.19014837 File: 5 KB, 672x191, 595959.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this good enough to learn jp?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:47:08 No.19014849 >>19014489 is the kid calling out the teachers bullshit because even though japanese is a high contextual based language, he should know what he means?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 20:51:38 No.19014876 >>19011899 Is the DJT library going to be updated soon?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:10:40 No.19014974 >>19014849 >自閉症

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:11:26 No.19014981 >>19014849 >Sensei, toilet! >Your sensei is not a toilet. >Long rant about context sensitive pragmatics in a high context language >Long rant about interpersonal communication

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:13:40 No.19014996 i just wanna fuck the sensei

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:19:30 No.19015033 I just wanna use the sensei as a toilet

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:20:38 No.19015045 fuckin same

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:53:00 No.19015229 >>19014876 Probably a little update, I haven't been getting many new books from my group lately. It's all dependent on a very small number of people.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 21:57:00 No.19015242 make with the free stuff dude thats all this threads good for : )

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:08:53 No.19015289 >>19011899 Where do I find raw JP ebooks? I'm a poorfag and perfectdark did not have the ones I was looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:09:27 No.19015293 >>19015289 ask someone to buy them for you japanese ebook piracy is a thing of dread

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:12:05 No.19015300 >>19015293 >japanese ebook piracy is a thing of dread Fair enough. I figured if people were willing to scan and upload they'd do ebooks to since it's significantly less labor. Might just work with what I can find then.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:17:42 No.19015320 File: 5 KB, 463x139, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 Am I jouzu yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:27:02 No.19015345 >>19015320 yea dude

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:56:06 No.19015459 >>19015320 Short-term memory is a meme, you're still fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:58:10 No.19015467 >>19015459 My 88% Anki retention says otherwise. B)

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 22:59:00 No.19015474 File: 17 KB, 244x222, press 2 make ur yumes come true.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] everyones fuckin all good dude

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:00:06 No.19015477 >>19013033 I got 41, not very surprised.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:05:19 No.19015495 >>19014751 You realize he may have a low IQ just like Richard Feynman, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:10:26 No.19015513 >tons of anecdotes of people finishing decks like Core2k but being unable to recognize the memorized words within the context of actual writing then what's the point

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:14:06 No.19015530 >>19015513 I recognized them just fine. You just need to read in conjunction with Anki.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:14:53 No.19015535 >>19015513 Autists that like to have scores and progress like their Mario games. Just read and mine sentences.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:16:26 No.19015545 >>19015535 >mine sentences Don't do this.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:19:18 No.19015563 nevermind everyones not fuckin all good dude

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:21:04 No.19015575

>>19015535
Sentences require even more time in Anki. No doubt they work to some extent. But you'll end up a flashcard slave like Matt, spending your days grinding Anki in the school bathroom and needing to meditate an hour a day just to stave off the immense pain of learning Japanese. You can choose to start balding at 21 from stress or you can choose vocabulary cards.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:23:16 No.19015587 >>19015575 Rattata, I choose you!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:25:18 No.19015599 retartta わたしはゲイ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:27:04 No.19015605 >>19015575 wtf you'd have to be literally retarded to think a sentence takes more time. You mean the extra 5 seconds to write out the card the first time or...?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:27:17 No.19015606 >>19011916 なんだろこれ獏もなーってかいてあるのかなああたしにもよくわからないよ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:27:28 No.19015607 >>19015605 you don't know japanese

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:28:23 No.19015615 >>19015513 Core2k works best after 10000 hours of anime

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:28:50 No.19015618 >>19015615 Not to be confused with 10000 sentences, which has never worked for anyone

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:31:30 No.19015634 >>19015618 (except for those it did who now need to read books from the 1800s just to find new words)

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:31:41 No.19015635 if you watch this 1000 times you will be ready for 2000 flashcards guaranteed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QSfebF5dRQ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:33:53 No.19015649 >>19015575 Wrong. Either use rikaisama sentence feature or import the words you add that day to epwing2anki and have it generate any number of sentences for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:36:26 No.19015672 >>19015634 anon 10000 sentences is literally not even three hours of reading

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:37:52 No.19015678 >>19015672 but you cant read 10000 sentences until you watch 10000 hours of portuguese subtituladoed anime and then do 2000 flashcards

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:38:10 No.19015683

>>19015605
>>19015649
You might be able to automate the card creation process but reading a bunch of words will always take longer than reading a single word. That's why you don't see sentence card people with 20K cards (does even Matt have that much) and they tend to recommend a low number of new cards per day like 15.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:38:19 No.19015685 >>19015678 i've read far more than 10000 sentences and haven't don any of that

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:38:56 No.19015689 >>19015685 were trying to create the new fuckin progression here just play along dude

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:39:20 No.19015690 >>19015689 the only progression is reading

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:39:51 No.19015696 >>19015690 This is the only path. My whole life was Unlimited Fictional Works.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:39:56 No.19015699 >>19015690 but where do you learn the chinese house drawings in order to read them

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:40:22 No.19015703 >>19015699 by looking them up when you need to

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:41:03 No.19015705 >>19015703 but then youre just identifying and then reading english arent you

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:41:31 No.19015710 >>19015705 yeah at first but it goes away faster than flashcards do lol

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:42:06 No.19015713 >>19015710 i dont doubt that for a second lol

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:46:45 No.19015730 >>19015713 it's faster but less efficient because you won't retain shit lol

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:47:40 No.19015732 >>19015730 honestly reading is the only way to actually retain anything

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:48:50 No.19015733 >>19015732 i have no idea. i pull things out of my ass to see which side's reasoning makes more sense or is more believable.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:50:38 No.19015740 >>19015733 spaced repetition (anki) is a way to minimize the amount of time spent on not forgetting a set number of things real usage/experience is how you actually get good at it

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:54:21 No.19015750
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The only way to become proficient at language learning is to expose yourself to new content. It is about input, not output. The extent to which that input is interesting will determine how likely you are to stay motivated. Flash cards are boring. Read content at LingQ. Sign up now.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:57:10 No.19015760 but if you cant ever summarize or think through things in japanese terms you dont actually understand what youre reading final

Anonymous Sat, May 12, 2018 23:57:29 No.19015762
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I'm barely in the hiragana learning stage so, sorry for the noob question. Now while I'm casually reading something I force myself to try to catch the onomatopoeias as a help for memory. In this page I have a problem. I get the がばあ (simbol?),

I check for がば GABA and:
(1) *grabs* *glomps*;
(2) *suddenly*;
(3) *jumps*;
(4) *rising*;
(5) *hug*

Which make sense but I didnt find anything searching がばあ as a whole, what I'm missing exactly?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:01:01 No.19015774 >>19015762 10000 hours of anime is mostly what youre missing here [non joke]

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:07:54 No.19015809 todays nihongo word of the day is 訃音 check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:12:07 No.19015833 >>19015809 useless

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:15:32 No.19015849 >>19015833 its like you almost get it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:17:42 No.19015856 Does sarcasm exist in Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:20:21 No.19015865 Do you guys believe that to improve via reading you have to constantly be reading things above your level? Doesn't this go against the idea of 'read 5+ moege before anything else' since all moege is virtually the same difficulty?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:21:06 No.19015870 >>19015856 sure does it just mostly works in a different sense traditionally from what youre used to

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:22:07 No.19015872 >>19015865 above your level yes greatly above your level to the point where youre back to deciphering instead of reading no

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:24:15 No.19015880 >>19015865 It'll probably take you at least 5 moege to get to the point where moege is not above your difficulty level.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:24:59 No.19015882 >>19015856 ありえないな

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:28:20 No.19015893 >>19015865 even moe hentai games have high brow shit in them sometimes dont get lulled into a false sense of security just because the girls make moe bitch noises instead of converse if you start underestimating moe youre fucked

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:39:16 No.19015924 File: 952 KB, 1210x3951, anki-stats-2018-05-12@23-38-39.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm drowning, I'm a failure, I can't learn Japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:41:01 No.19015933 >>19015924 yep but you can change all that its a simple choice >>19015474

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:43:10 No.19015941 Hey is Tae Kim good enough for grammar or are the Dictionary books required?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:43:44 No.19015943 >>19012818 >>19012908 >>19012973 >>19012993 >>19013022 >>19013324 >>19015762 Cool posts but manga isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:46:50 No.19015957 >>19015943 you don't know japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:47:35 No.19015959 >>19015943 you got brain problems

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 00:50:14 No.19015966 >>19015872 at what point is deciphering instead of reading?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 01:05:58 No.19016003 File: 4 KB, 557x150, firefox-2018-05-13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19015959 Yeah it's too strong.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 01:12:50 No.19016042 Without lowercase-kun this thread has no meaning or use, wonder what kind of 貢物 we should bring him to keep him here

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 01:16:54 No.19016050 >>19015966 when you cant read >>19016003 あっちゃー

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 01:20:06 No.19016060 We need a guide on how to acquire amphetamines

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 01:21:39 No.19016062 smoke cannabis instead for epic win

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 02:41:08 No.19016384 >>19014803 hanguls is like legos for 3 year olds (or retards) t. resident hangul hater

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 02:47:58 No.19016401 >>19015966 When you will try to read any rail soft's visual novel.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 02:50:34 No.19016415

>>19016401
this will is unnecessary and renders the sentence's temporal aspect malformed
basically you can't use "when" with "will"; "will" asserts a realis event, "when" implies an irrealis statement, to use them together they have to be referring to different times like "When you will be ready to go home soon" where "when" refers to a future present at which you may not be ready to go home but "will" refers to an even further future point where you will

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 04:14:03 No.19016689 >>19011916 わかったこれＫＢＴＩＴのどーじんじゃない？ >一護もなーってかきたかったんだけどごんべんまちがえてけものへんにしたんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:08:30 No.19016855 Is it easier to get a job if I know Japanese, or if I know programming? Should I do both?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:12:02 No.19016867 >>19016855 しごとのことはわかんないけどにほんでしごとするならにほんごいがいはほとんどつうじないよ

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:15:51 No.19016874

>>19016855
??????????????????

Programming obviously. Knowing Japanese isn't an applicable skill in and of itself like programming is. At best it's of a supplemental nature and even then you'd really have to look hard to find a job opportunity where you could take advantage of it.

>inb4 reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:18:57 No.19016878 File: 347 KB, 700x996, 1512977874413.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19016855 >Should I do both? yea use that noggin and activate some almonds

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:19:50 No.19016882

>>19016874
But I feel like nobody will hire me without tons of experience in the field or all kinds of open source projects I can show them I did or something...

It's hard, maybe I should have taken internships or something when I was still in school. Now it's been almost 4 years and I feel like nobody will hire me unless I know Japanese too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:22:29 No.19016892 >>19016882 >I feel like nobody will hire me unless I know Japanese too. Stop trolling

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:26:50 No.19016909 >>19016892 Yeah ok to be honest I just threw that last part on there because I realized maybe this is straying a bit far from the topic...

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:36:23 No.19016934

>>19016855
Nobody needs someone who just "know Japanese". If you're in USA there's enough Japanese Americans around to fill the slots, otherwise nobody cares. The only solid reason to learn Japanese is to masturbate to porn games, everything else is bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:38:19 No.19016938 >>19016934 >The only solid reason to learn Japanese is to masturbate to porn games, everything else is bullshit. going on my grave

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:40:22 No.19016946 >>19016934 >not learning Japanese to be an autistic J-vlogger

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 05:58:03 No.19017001

I recently read a handful of doujin by some artist, and I wanted to tell them how good I thought they were and ask them a question. But my Japanese isn't great, would anyone mind double checking this?

こんにちは、 [name]さん。 [name]さんが描いた船乗りの恋人、4冊全て持っています。本当に素晴らしいマンガですね。絵もすごく綺麗で、感動します。善子と梨子、二人の物語の続きを描くお考えはありますでしょうか。[name]さんの物語の中で二人がどうやって一緒になるか、本当に見てみたいです。

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:34:00 No.19017140 today's　母の日 and so I checked some related vocab, and what the hell does that mean: >親子丼 >2. sexual relationship with both a mother and daughter is this some hentai jargon?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:36:00 No.19017154 >>19015924 throw away the vocab deck and start mining sentences, I had 20% of the Core deck reviewed within 2 weeks but I got rid of it anyway, because I don't see it as a sensible way to learn any Japanese reason: it's too out of context

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:37:46 No.19017161 >>19017154 Mining sentences is a meme. If you read more than an hour per day, it provides you with enough context not to bother with sentences.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:40:16 No.19017173 >>19017140 What kind of woods are you living in? Next thing you ask is what 中出し is?

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:40:52 No.19017179

>>19017161
people who actually learnt Japanese prove you wrong, but I will stop at that not to start a shitshow
also inb4 they learnt Japanese DESPITE it, not because of it rhetoric - yeah duh, if bare vocab makes you bored and sentences are more interesting to you then that shit kept you going and was pivotal to you learning the language

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:41:44 No.19017182 >>19017154 How do you mine sentences at ~700 words? There would surely be a lot more than 1 word you don't understand in each sentence. How do you infer meaning from context if that's the case?

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:47:59 No.19017205

>>19017182
you gotta look for them in right places, comments on YouTube are good for that
you need 1 word, 2 unknown is too much as you said
700 is not a lot but it's a solid base and you should find something out there provided you know the fundamental grammar

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:48:17 No.19017206

So I've been learning Japanese for over 2 years now, but I never really used Anki. I always got so busy with other things that I ended up forgetting to use it after a few day.

Well now I've got a lot more free time, so I'd like to try using it, but I have no idea how to use other people's decks or which deck to use. Since I've been learning for over 2 years I'd really rather not start at level 0 decks.

Also, if I use an existing deck can I add my own words to it? I always write down new words I encounter so I think Anki would be a good place to put them.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 06:49:44 No.19017217 >>19017206 you can add words read the guide in the OP - everything is explained there how good is your Japanese after 2 years? some people are fluent by then, some cannot understand shit and haven't read a single novel

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 07:11:17 No.19017307 >>19017206 This is another Reddit repost, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 07:20:24 No.19017349 >>19017217 ask him https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/8j29bs/setting_up_anki_if_youre_not_a_beginner/

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 07:30:11 No.19017387 おふろはいってきたふやけた

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 07:31:30 No.19017392 >>19015289 what are you after?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 07:44:17 No.19017429 ふやけたえいごでいうと slimy つうじる？

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 08:00:13 No.19017482 >>19017429 soaked throughやsoddenと思うだが指やつま先とかのふやけたことはたいていpruneyというんだ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 08:31:27 No.19017606 >>19017001 文法の誤りも不自然な表現もないと思います。

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 08:33:01 No.19017618 File: 26 KB, 704x396, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19017482 ぷるーにーおぼえた

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 08:51:57 No.19017718 I've been having some issues making anki play the audio provided by yomichan. Is there any fix to this?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:12:59 No.19017836 >>19017718 Thank you for the detailed report, I'll get one of the devs working on it right away.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:25:34 No.19017900 >>19017718 I don't even bother with yomichan, my mined words have no sound.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:26:06 No.19017904

>>19017836
I get it, I'll elaborate. The audio field in Anki says there's an audio file there but no sound is coming out. I've tried with other decks like 2k and that works no problem. I've also tried pulling audio from different sources with yomichan but still no luck. The audio works fine within the yomichan addon as well, its only when you transfer it to anki that it fails.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:35:27 No.19017965 >>19017904 Have you perhaps verified if the file exists?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:35:42 No.19017968 >>19016934 >Nobody needs someone who just "know Japanese" Isn't there commission work to be done?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:38:08 No.19017978 >>19017965 Yeah I checked in appdata. It's still and not corrupt.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:40:19 No.19017987
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I've been screwing around with JIS X 0213 and made myself a visualization of all the kanji included in it (sorted by KangXi radicals Unicode spec and, when null, the Adobe Japan Unicode spec, the first C variant), so I may just as well share it with you people. Maybe someone will find it useful.

https://a.uguu.se/FtFjp6mDQNaa_jisx0213.html
(be sure to save it if you want to keep it, uguu links disappear after a day)

So, the dark kanji are the JIS X 0208 Level 1 (the absolute must for people doing any serious reading), the red ones are the JIS X 0208 Level 2 (you should at least recognize them, they make reading edgy and chuuni material easier) and the light gray ones are the JIS X 0213 Level 3 (technical characters e.g. radical parts, compatibility variants, some advanced kanji for freaks). Pic related is which ones 装甲悪鬼村正 contains, if you were ever curious (notice no Level 3).

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 09:58:10 No.19018076 File: 24 KB, 390x380, 1493321018567.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] started kanji with anki core 2k/6k , already feel like a brainlet. I have to redo every kanji 10/15 times before I remember it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:00:07 No.19018090 File: 4 KB, 394x76, a26568c0b3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19013033 A few times it went too fast for me and I think I messed up, but this seems to be a good score.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:01:19 No.19018101 >>19017978 Anything on stout or sterr?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:06:12 No.19018134 >>19018076 It gets better dude, I started off that way as well. Your brain gets really good at recognizing patterns after a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:06:51 No.19018137 Where can I find a good list with all Japanese auxiliary verbs? The ones I found were not exhaustive.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:08:16 No.19018143 >>19018076 Do some kanji study on the side. I find that learning radicals really helped get me over that initial difficulty curve. Don't stop doing core though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:08:39 No.19018145 >>19018134 Yeah after roughly a year lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:09:51 No.19018151 >>19018145 Sounds like you're a brainlet Anon, it got significantly better for me after a month.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:11:47 No.19018166 >>19018076 I have to redo it more than 10/15 times and I scored 42 on that memory test.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:12:53 No.19018171 >>19018166 >42 sorry buddy most people here scored 50+ this is the big boy club, maybe you should head to /int/ until you get gud

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:14:33 No.19018181 >>19018076 After 4 months I still mix up 下る, 下がる　and counters like 一つetc And i had 51 on that test

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:14:41 No.19018182 >>19018171 >sorry buddy most people here scored 50+ That's the point. I'm not gonna make it. But I'm staying because fuck it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:15:42 No.19018186 >>19018182 >I'm not gonna make it. If the lowercase shitposter who listens to bad japanese rap made it, you can make it too. Always remember that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:25:32 No.19018250 Can I start reading without having finished TK? I feel like it's pointless to continue with no context to cement any of this shit. I'm not remembering anything anyways. I'm about halfway through the essential grammar part.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:27:09 No.19018267 >>19018250 Yes. Go back to it when you don't get something (the particles are usually in the TOC, so you should have no problems finding it). If it overwhelms you, review the basic grammar and read the whole essential grammar - try again after that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:28:01 No.19018275 >>19018250 That's what I did, do what you want reading is always fine. You will come across the rest of essential grammar in your reading all the time so it's up to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 10:50:26 No.19018396 >>19013033 53 here

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:08:27 No.19018479 >>19013033 It goes too slow. I got bored around set 15 and couldn't finish. Gave up.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:14:39 No.19018519 >>19017987 https://kanji.neocities.org/subete.html is that page also your work?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:18:08 No.19018541 >>19013030 >now point me where I can buy high digital manga without retarded drms amazon and rakuten >>19013042 most ebook are of high quality sorry you are ignorant but still of want to comment

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:35:22 No.19018629 File: 90 KB, 612x716, 1525627617362.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I buy genki or should I just use the pdf?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:40:52 No.19018658 >>19018541 They're not.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:42:17 No.19018669 >>19018629 >should I (...) genki no

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:42:18 No.19018671 minna genki?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:44:46 No.19018686 >>19018669 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:48:03 No.19018708 >>19018629 >should I pay for something I could get for free It's absolutely baffling how some people haven't a drop of frugality. This goes against basic human nature.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:50:18 No.19018720 its more satisfying to obtain something by proper means as opposed to stealing it

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:51:00 No.19018726
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>>19018541
Thanks to them literally giving them away for free, I literally "own" over 300 volumes of manga on kindle, and I'd own them for real if I downloaded them all and stripped the DRM instead of doing a random sampling.

The overwhelming majority of them are below 300dpi. It correlates a little with age, but not much - newer stuff just increases the highest resolution you find, the normal resolution is still like 175~180dpi (1280 pixels tall for the Japanese B6 sized paper manga volumes are typically printed on).

300dpi is the absolute bare minimum that you should consider for a bitmap of manga to be seen as "normal quality", let alone high quality.

The only way for me to get high quality manga is to buy it and ship it overseas.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:55:48 No.19018757
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>>19018726
And no, this isn't some special exception for the stuff they give away for free. These are the exact same versions they sell. And from the overwhelming majority of publishers, rakuten and amazon get exactly the same files.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/かくしごと（１）-月刊少年マガジンコミックス-久米田康治-ebook/dp/B01GRDKGZW/

This is a major and recent manga and its digital version is fucking 1024 pixels tall.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 11:57:33 No.19018766
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>>19018757
I already ranted about this here. I'll spare you me dumping pages from several series again.

>>/jp/thread/S18923519#p18929587

By the way 梅衣堂ひよと旦那様の野望 is wonderful, and I recommend it based on the first chapter because my I refuse to buy such a low resolution version of it and haven't set aside the money to pay for shipping yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:00:01 No.19018778 >>19018757 im sure more pixels are gonna make that look way better lol high quality manga is an oxymoron

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:00:40 No.19018779 File: 1.72 MB, 1441x2048, 1500830382482.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19018766 Holy hell. How does something like that get okay'd?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:03:20 No.19018787 >>19018779 Same.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:10:22 No.19018824 File: 33 KB, 96x330, 1515486648907.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what is the backwards ノ after 嬉

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:11:24 No.19018832 >>19018824 し

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:11:52 No.19018836
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What is the purpose of JLPT N5 and N4 ?
Why would you need a written certificate (which could be quite expensive), stating that you know some basic Japanese?
Doesn't every job in Japan require N1?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:12:25 No.19018842 >>19018832 that's such a bad font even if it seems obvious I don't believe it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:12:38 No.19018846 >>19018824 >嬉＊そう >うれ＊そう What could that be? Goddamit anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:12:52 No.19018850 >>19018836 People taking Japanese classes at University I'm assuming.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:12:59 No.19018851 >>19018842 I can confirm it's し. You get used to it. Until then you should read something that doesn't stray into weird fonts.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:13:11 No.19018854 >>19018836 What's the point of N2-5? If you're going to learn, at least learn properly.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:13:20 No.19018855 >>19018842 its obvious because it cant be anything else anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:13:43 No.19018860 >>19018836 Autists love to pass tests, and they yield profit. So why not.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:13:52 No.19018863 >>19018836 the truth is that N3, N2 and N1 certificates exist solely for kneehonjeans, guyjeans can't even get to N4

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:13:53 No.19018864 >>19018855 Stop trying to contribute.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:14:22 No.19018865 >>19018864 stop posting in general

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:14:58 No.19018873 >>19018865 You're the one with problems, dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:15:32 No.19018879 >>19018865 It's a daily thread, not a general :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:16:23 No.19018883 >>19018873 im a nice guy youre the one being a poop boy >>19018879 : ]

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:18:46 No.19018900

>>19018541
Show me some examples of your "high quality" ebooks.
I consider x1800 to be bare minimum resolution, I could accept it for stuff magazines or individual chapters. Tanks should be at the very least be x2600.

>>19018779
Is this really a legit rip? The first volume looks much better, even if is only x1536.

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>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:20:14 No.19018905 >>19018900 You can get away with ~2150px tall for volume rips, but they have to be scanned at a higher resolution and scaled down with a good scaler.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:22:33 No.19018919
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>>19018900
>Is this really a legit rip? The first volume looks much better, even if is only x1536.
Most likely. In fact, I think I got it off someone putting it up on a mega along with ひとりぼっちの〇〇〇生活第４巻

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:48:32 No.19019069
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After 103 days of learning I have finished the RTK deck (the one that has words).
I was curious so I took a look at the N5 guide,
The 80 kanji were ok, but for some reason they also expect you to know words like 映画館 when the kanji that form them are not on the list?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:50:11 No.19019076 File: 12 KB, 863x143, zF93Mo6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19018757 Damn, I thought I knew the box kanji, should've guessed there's 5 other iterations of it...

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:52:58 No.19019090 File: 74 KB, 200x240, 1524930588350.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19019069 lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 12:53:02 No.19019091 File: 426 KB, 655x2024, djt_vs_japanese.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Car: japanese The dolls: rtk users, anki users, manga readers, reddit posters (add your favourite group to hate here)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:03:05 No.19019121 >>19019091 my associates and i are the 運転手

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:19:02 No.19019210 >>19018519 Nope.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:26:42 No.19019246 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgRte6oSoF8

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:27:30 No.19019252 >>19019246 >open this >skip ahead >says something objectively wrong about KKLC >close this

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:28:15 No.19019255 File: 691 KB, 771x567, saya.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when you know more than 5k kanjis and you see a new kanji in the first line of the novel Says no uta is really repulsive.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:32:29 No.19019281 File: 13 KB, 181x272, mattvsjapan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19019246

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:33:46 No.19019296 >>19019246 that videos only useful if you mute it and see if you know all the kanjis that are being painted : ]

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:33:58 No.19019299 >>19019281 what wrong with matt

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:34:46 No.19019306 >>19019299 you'll know when you grow up kid

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:34:58 No.19019308 >>19019299 he poopy white boy with no hair that try to sound smart from his bedroom that have manga on the wall lol

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:35:36 No.19019312 >>19019299 he took a very long time to reach a questionable fluency in japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:37:08 No.19019323 >>19019308 >>19019296 Can you please just fuck off already?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:38:08 No.19019331 >white dude fluent in Japanese that calmly explains the strengths and weaknesses of the various approaches to learning Japanese, while addressing the common criticisms toward RTK >anonymous nobodies with memes I wonder who should be trusted.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:38:35 No.19019333 >>19019255 Amusingly enough I recognized 劔 because I saw it in a movie before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icSwt4hUPTs

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:40:45 No.19019349 >>19019323 be the change you want to see dude >>19019331 who cares who you trust bring some results

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:41:02 No.19019350 >white loser shut-in who has manga cut-outs glued to his wall and speaks broken shitty gaijin japanese >people who are actually good at japanese hmmmm I wonder who should be trusted (lol)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:41:07 No.19019351 >>19019333 It's an old and variative form of 剣. Probably one of the most frequent kanji in muramasa.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:44:37 No.19019378 The mean score for the memory test is 46.5 with a standard deviation of 9.8. If you scored below 46.5 you're not gonna make it. I got 44 which is about a quarter of a standard deviation below the mean, so I'm leaving the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:44:41 No.19019379 maaaa my name is maaaatt maaaaa i can speak maaaa maaaa nihongo maaaaaaa i have to think really hard about what i say maaaaa so in order to buy maaaa time i say maaaaa between maaaaa every maaaa word support on patreon domo arigato minasan

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:45:38 No.19019385 >>19019378 >The mean score for the memory test The mean score in this thread for the memory test*

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:45:51 No.19019387 >>19019331 >fluent in Japanese this is technically true >calmly explains nope >strengths and weaknesses nuh uh >while addressing the common criticisms toward RTK none of his addressments are valid

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:47:33 No.19019396 >>19019299 He's earning money by shilling his way to learn japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:48:52 No.19019404 What are people like on the Japanese chans?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:48:57 No.19019405 Literally the only things you need to learn Japanese is native reading material and a mining deck. Everything else is a waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:50:19 No.19019414 >>19019404 nice cool witty respectful basically if something is one way on 4chan its the opposite on major japanese bbs

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:50:55 No.19019420 >>19019404 really conservative/right wing

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:51:32 No.19019425

>>19019405
Did you see the test results in this thread? Some people are just born stupid and need more granular/simple steps to feel that they're advancing. RTK is not optimal for the intelligent and independent, but it's almost necessary for those that aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:51:39 No.19019426 >>19019404 mostly exactly the same as 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:53:09 No.19019438 >>19019404 what do you mean by "japanese chans"? depending on where you go people will be completely different

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:55:24 No.19019455 >>19019438 The most popular chan overall, and the most popular chan that is comparable to 4chan (maybe in terms of demographics, like young guys?).

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:56:20 No.19019457 File: 345 KB, 1080x1838, rattata 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:56:50 No.19019464 >>19019438 They're asking about 5ch and 2chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:57:32 No.19019467 >>19019457 no one gonna do rettarta my ninja

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 13:58:33 No.19019471 >>19019467 Already got two people on the hook for it and fishing for more.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:00:02 No.19019477 >>19019471 i refuse to believe anyone is drinking the 紅茶

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:00:34 No.19019481 >>19019477 紅茶 is love, 紅茶 is life.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:02:20 No.19019491 >>19019477 I drink the 緑茶, does that count as amphetamines

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:05:12 No.19019502 >>19019481 >>19019491 紅参精茶 is the real ninja drank

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:23:11 No.19019610 >>19019308 What dialect is this?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:24:27 No.19019618 >>19019610 Ebonics

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:28:03 No.19019642 File: 228 KB, 300x225, 1372630456361.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19018171 >this is the big boy club

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:30:05 No.19019663 What's more important for a happy existence, Japanese or calculus+statistics?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:30:54 No.19019672 >>19019663 all three

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:30:57 No.19019673 >>19019663 I can't masturbate to calculus.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:41:05 No.19019736 File: 37 KB, 490x87, gumshoe-chan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the ッス at the end? Some regional sentence ending particle?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:43:16 No.19019752 >>19019736 https://pastebin.com/492LYNnt >> Nっす >This is a contraction of です.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:46:12 No.19019764 >>19019752 gambare with the latest edition of sakubee

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:46:48 No.19019767 >>19019764 What's that?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:51:00 No.19019797 File: 26 KB, 138x205, Prinnyart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19019736 It's Prinny-speech, dood.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:54:40 No.19019812 Matt actually speaks good japan didn't you guys see him preform?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 14:58:28 No.19019824 Who else here /RATTATA/ ?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:01:14 No.19019836 >>19019812 >>19019379

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:07:22 No.19019861 おれも日本話せります

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:07:38 No.19019863 押っ忍

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:17:54 No.19019902 File: 77 KB, 1324x701, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] みんな元気かい？

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:19:32 No.19019918 >Customarily, in kanji dictionaries the kunyomi is represented by hiragana and the onyomi by katakana Mind blown.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:23:30 No.19019941 すんごいものしり

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:27:59 No.19019988 I'm not gonna make it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:30:33 No.19020010 >>19019988 You truly will if you just keep at it. Don't give up even when you feel discouraged. Even when you feel like you can't retain anything you just read.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:34:06 No.19020039 >>19019918 Why

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:35:26 No.19020054 >>19020039 I'm a brainlet so trivial dumb shit about nipponese and tangentially related topics surprise me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:38:26 No.19020073 >>19019988 そんでもキミはkeep walkingすることしかできないのさ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:39:04 No.19020081 すぐにバレるやっぱりこんなぼっき隠れない

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:41:19 No.19020103 man fuck katakana pointless ass bullshit that'll take me like 4 days to memorize because I'll confuse them with hiragana

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:42:02 No.19020111 巨大なその姿は　まさに平和の砦全長111m　重さ2tの魔神さ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:42:08 No.19020113 You mean 4 hours lad?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:43:19 No.19020120 File: 37 KB, 400x250, 567f579a73b247bfcfe29685603964d508ef0014_hq.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19020081

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:44:10 No.19020127 >>19020081 じゃわたしはその勃起を処理しましょうか

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:44:23 No.19020130 >>19020113 you probably have 50> privilege. don't condescend to us 40s.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:45:39 No.19020149 I'm a 26 and hiragana/katakana took me a day.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:46:04 No.19020155 >>19020127 わたしのもお願いします

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:46:35 No.19020162 >>19020149 >I'm a 26 we're talking about the memory thing right?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:48:16 No.19020173 >>19020127 >処理なんか危ないそう

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:50:30 No.19020190 >>19020162 Indeed.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:51:02 No.19020197 File: 60 KB, 564x118, kana.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19020103 If it takes you more than a day, or more than a few hours, here's why.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:52:29 No.19020209 Is RTK worth it or should i ignore it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:53:30 No.19020224 File: 5 KB, 408x129, wtf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I can't learn it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:55:05 No.19020231 >>19020010 Thank you, It;s just that sometimes i think i'm just climbing the same step over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:55:22 No.19020233 >>19020209 Take the memory test, on <40 you are a brainlet and need RTK, otherwise it's a waste of time

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:55:26 No.19020234 >>19020224 you can do it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:55:26 No.19020235 >>19020224 That's like two standard deviations lower than this thread's mean. Can you learn it? Sure. But you'll have to work a bit harder than most. I'm kinda just trolling. I don't think the test matters that much.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:57:53 No.19020254 some very nice people itt

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 15:59:35 No.19020264 >>19020254 youre nice too dude everyones fuckin nice as fuck

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:03:34 No.19020293
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>TFW watching this video series only makes me want to make Japanese friends and start talking to them

I know I'm only 8 months in and shouldn't start outputting yet, but it looks like so much fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:04:30 No.19020300 >>19020293 you should have been outputting on day 1 mimicking your instructor who speaks proper nihongo

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:06:22 No.19020314 >>19020300 language learning is about input, not output. don't bother with output until you understand enough to say something meaningful. faggot.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:08:59 No.19020333
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>>19020314
pic of collegiate scholarly material

and here some ogs might appreciate this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a5kYYcnEKw&list=PL97F8C94FBEBC24A6

if you cant hire a japanese instructor you can always go with this : )

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:13:30 No.19020357

>>19020209
RTK is good, but you should really do it in conjunction with regular vocabulary mining.

RTK can help make it easier to remember the trickier Kanji with many parts, or ones that look similar, but after a while you'll start to get a sense for it and won't need to rely on it so much. Sort of like how you can tell there's a very clear difference between

>Kitten
>Mitten
>Smitten
>Bitten

This same logic applies to Kanji, you just don't realize how yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:14:48 No.19020368 >>19020314 I'm not suggesting otherwise, I'm saying that the outputting bit looks very enjoyable and I can't wait to reach that point.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:15:41 No.19020373 >>19020368 you never will if you dont start now heed my words

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:52:14 No.19020585 ほら　もうその手を離さないから一緒に行こうどこまでも

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:54:25 No.19020594 それ本気で言ってるの

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:55:24 No.19020600 >>19020585 「どこ」はどこ？

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:56:41 No.19020609 >>19020600 どこまでも

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 16:59:22 No.19020633 行きたい場所はどこですか

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:01:27 No.19020647 陸に上がって進化したウーパールーパー略して、リシンルーパー

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:04:35 No.19020664 怖そう

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:04:56 No.19020668 >>19013082 damn you must get offended over the smallest shit lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:05:56 No.19020680 >>19020668 fuckin finally i get some play out of that nah i dont get offended on the internet try your worst

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:08:17 No.19020697 >>19020647 英語で略するとim gayデス

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:12:45 No.19020737 >>19020680 ok

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:13:03 No.19020739 >>19020697 これは笑い事じゃないんです。私の父親がリシンルーパーに殺された。貴方たちも気をつけてください

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:18:46 No.19020776

>>19020209
Download the PDF and read the introduction. It tells you exactly what RTK is trying to do (hint: it's not "teach you japanese").
If you think that's going to be useful then do RTK because it actually is good at what it's trying to do. If you think that it will teach you japanese and then get angry when it doesn't, don't even bother.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:19:02 No.19020780 finished rtk, finished the first 3 parts of tae kim, just mined my first 20 sentences. Feeling good :)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:20:23 No.19020789 >>19020780 >:) Can't tell if trolling but good for you if not.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:21:14 No.19020794 >>19020739 いやマジで笑えないっすよ御愁傷様っす >>19020780 great job mate hope to see you at the big kid table soon

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:21:36 No.19020800 >>19020776 Thanks for the advice. By the way you don't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:26:06 No.19020825 >>19020800 >By the way you don't know Japanese. Please define "knowing japanese"

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:26:42 No.19020830 >>19020825 If you need a definition then you don't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:26:42 No.19020831 how do japs say "ur mom"? omae no haha? or are they too intellectual to do it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:28:25 No.19020841 >>19020789 actually not trolling dude, im reading flying witch >>19020794 we'll see if im still here when i know nihongo :)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:29:37 No.19020847 >>19020830 Your reply doesn't answer the question.Please try again.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:30:02 No.19020850 >>19020847 You didn't ask a question, you made a request.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:30:06 No.19020852 >>19020831 ユーアーモォム

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:30:09 No.19020853 >>19020847 You didn't ask a question.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:30:55 No.19020858 >>19020850 >>19020853 oh god, they're multiplying

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:31:45 No.19020864 >>19020841 you better be dude

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:32:31 No.19020873 >>19020850 >>19020853 https://www.thefreedictionary.com/question A sentence, phrase, or gesture that seeks information through a reply.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:32:51 No.19020878 >>19020873 Dictionaries are not prescriptive.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:33:37 No.19020884 is it finally time for the boys to get rowdy over nothin again

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:36:10 No.19020903 >>19020884 出撃 them until they leave

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:36:58 No.19020909 >>19020903 i dont have anything to 出撃 dude

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:39:05 No.19020928 >>19020878 He didn't even imply that they were. heh I'm a genius.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:41:27 No.19020946 >>19020928 He performed an action that can only be undertaken under the assumption that dictionaries are prescriptive.

>>	watashi wa shitpost Sun, May 13, 2018 17:43:53 No.19020970 >>19020946 Are you implying that the implicit subtext of linguistic elements requires constant attention, even in the case of the intended interpretation being clear due to it being based on general knowledge and common sense?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:44:28 No.19020979 File: 52 KB, 1334x563, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] おいそこのキミ元気？

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:45:14 No.19020986 10000 sentences only contain about 8000 unique words, shown 100000~150000 times total, with only 2000~2500 of those words each shown five times or more. The 10000 sentences meme is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:46:25 No.19020997 >>19020986 10,000 i+1 sentences should by definition contain AT LEAST 10,000 new words

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:47:37 No.19021008 >>19020986 thats why 10000 hours of spanish subtitled anime will never steer you wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jldqg8NsHk

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:48:00 No.19021012 >>19020997 Good luck with that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:48:31 No.19021017 >>19020997 That's not what i+1 means. At least pick a different letter like n.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:50:17 No.19021031 >>19021017 ? Why would the letter matter?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:50:56 No.19021035 >>19021031 Because the letter in i+1 doesn't matter, the +1 does. And when you say i+1 it means what i+1 means, not what you want it to mean. i+1 is a word.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:51:47 No.19021041 File: 22 KB, 277x296, lain_the_architect.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19021017

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:51:50 No.19021042 >>19021035 >i+1 is a word The shitposting is reaching critical levels.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:52:30 No.19021045 sorry to interrupt but whats this guy saying anyone know https://streamable.com/gunpv

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:52:56 No.19021050 >>19021042 >a single distinct conceptual unit of language, comprising inflected and variant forms.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:55:10 No.19021078 >>19021045 和田氏はOKAYっしょ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:55:55 No.19021087 So in the end, what IS the definition of "knowing japanese"? Please reply without using a tautology this time.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:56:12 No.19021091

I'm kinda new to reading and have gone through a few volumes of Yotsuba and a bit of Hanahira. If I don't comprehend something 100% but get enough of it to understand the gist of what's going on is it alright to keep going or should I be aiming for total comprehension of every sentence before moving on?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:56:29 No.19021094 Learning to understand spoken japanese is easier than reading right? Is there some good text to speech software that can be used to read scanned manga?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:57:32 No.19021104 >>19021094 >Learning to understand spoken japanese is easier than reading right? No

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 17:57:45 No.19021107 >>19021045 沸かしは慶長

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:00:10 No.19021132

>>19021094
No. Even though spoken japanese doesn't use kanji, knowing how to read makes understanding speech and distinguishing hoomophones easier. And that's before weird kanji puns that make absolutely no sense if you don't know what they're referencing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:00:11 No.19021134 >>19021104 But when I watch anime I can roughly understand what's going on just by hearing. Understanding their writing system is the real problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:00:25 No.19021138 >>19021091 the former is fine

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:01:22 No.19021148 >>19021087 It's when you don't have to ask.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:01:27 No.19021149 >>19021104 the speaking is piss easy to learn faggot, reading is a different story

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:02:15 No.19021160 >>19021134 No, you understand because you're watching and also understand a few words. Try listening to just anime audio from a series you don't know and see how much you understand.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:02:29 No.19021163 why does this retarded general mystify japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:03:04 No.19021169 >>19021163 Do you think the competent people making good progress spend a lot of time here?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:03:38 No.19021172 File: 3 KB, 342x260, bro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19021163 This is why. All the websites you guys recommend in the OP are busted.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:04:51 No.19021181 >>19021148 >"If you know it, you know it" That might be a true statement, but it's still a tautology, so it's not a valid answer to that post.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:05:19 No.19021187 >>19021181 You didn't understand my post.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:06:25 No.19021201

>>19021160
Alright, so there aren't any software like the one I mentioned?
Because being frank here, I want to learn japanese to read raw manga and doujins. There's going to be pictures to contextualize what's going on.
I already learned english "the wrong way" playing MMORPGs and stuff, so I believe I can bullshit my way into japanese as well.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:06:27 No.19021202

>>19021181
You know Japanese when you don't have to ask what it means to know Japanese.

The reason you can't understand this is because you don't know Japanese, and thus you're not able to understand that this is what it means to know Japanese. If you knew Japanese, you would know that you know Japanese when you don't have to ask what it means to know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:09:55 No.19021231 >>19021201 >Because being frank here, I want to learn japanese to read raw manga and doujins. By...not learning to read?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:11:48 No.19021248 >>19021163 i have no idea ive been thoroughly enjoying this though for the past couple years

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:13:32 No.19021275 >>19021094 There is no "audio only" , or even "romaji only" learning material past a very basic level, so you have to learn how to read if you want to understand anything more complex than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:21:27 No.19021334 Can men also use あたし

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:23:20 No.19021350 >>19021334 you can but you better be fuckin funny about it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:24:19 No.19021358 >>19021334 Only if you're an effeminate.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:27:19 No.19021383 >>19021334 Yes, but only if you're an オカマ or a yakuza boss.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:28:20 No.19021390 >>19018171 I scored 45 and I consistently get 80 to 90 percent retention rate in anki. My working memory isn't that good but my long term memory is better.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:29:02 No.19021399
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>>19021275
>>19021231
Alright, nevermind.
I will eventually get to learn it the right way, but I want to understand my stuff right fucking now niggas.
So I tried a software named capture2text, and it can read the text out loud in japanese. Works alright, and what I understand is kind of matching what they say (when using a chapter that's already translated by some fans anyway).

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:29:43 No.19021402 >>19021399 instant gratification will get you nowhere in nihongo youve been warned my ninja

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:31:16 No.19021409 >>19021402 I thought instant gratification and escapism is all what japanese entertainment was about anon

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:32:22 No.19021417 >>19021409 thats prolly why it doesnt work out for a lot of boys

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:32:42 No.19021420 >>19021409 できない

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:33:24 No.19021426 >>19021383 why is "cauldron" slang for gay man?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:34:43 No.19021437 >>19021426 same reason fag is a ciggy innit mate

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:35:49 No.19021444 >>19021426 because his ass is a utensil for mixing up a soup of aids

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:36:17 No.19021451

>>19021399
You can learn the kana in a weekend without being some kind of language genius.
With that, you can understand everything with furigana (like your example image) just as if it were speech.
Setting up some kind of OCR into Text to Speech monstrosity seems like a really bad solution just to save a few hours of actually learning the language.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:36:37 No.19021452 >>19021444 but what about fags that like to fuck other fags but not be fucked by them

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:37:25 No.19021461 >>19021452 that's called being straight

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:38:00 No.19021467 >>19021451 >Setting up some kind of OCR into Text to Speech monstrosity It's literally double clicking the software and pressing a hotkey dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:38:57 No.19021477 >>19019673 You're not trying hard enough

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:39:27 No.19021481 >>19021461 ok what about the above but also being repulsed and utterly disgusted at the mere mention of vaginas or females in general

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:39:48 No.19021485 Is there any place to find japanese subtitles other than kitsunekko?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:39:53 No.19021487 >>19021426 >オカマ」は元々は肛門を意味する江戸時代の俗語であり、転じてアナルセックスをする・される（おカマを掘る・掘られる）こともある女装をする男娼を指し、1980年代頃から女性的な男性全般（非同性愛者含む）への名称（蔑称）になった。 Slang for the asshole-->slang for anal sex --> slang for gay men

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:40:13 No.19021491 >>19021481 then you have just a regular /pol/ user

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:41:22 No.19021501 >>19021485 animelon, netflix

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:41:24 No.19021502 >>19021487 anyone wanna let me squirt my aids milk in your okama tub

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:44:16 No.19021520 >>19021502 The "asshole" meaning was used in the Edo-period though, and they didn't know about AIDS back then.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:46:33 No.19021535 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xddDKtsDw6k mind blown

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:47:58 No.19021549 >>19021334 Only if you're black.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:50:14 No.19021561 If I'm going to only be speaking and listening to Japanese 99% of the time, then why even bother learning kanji? I mean, it'd be nice to know, but is there any reason I can't just skip it for now

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:51:49 No.19021571 >>19021549 はい僕は黒人ですよでも"あたしを"使いません!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:53:02 No.19021576 >>19021561 dont worry about it then its easy to catch up on all that later depending on what you do in life youre gonna be exposed to it anyway so dont sweat it >>19021571 >僕 shame on a ninja

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:53:38 No.19021580 >>19021576 What's wrong with using 僕?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:55:13 No.19021590 >>19021580 oh nothing i was just doing the thing because i wanted to acknowledge our shared skin tone while also putting you lower than me by saying shame on a ninja i didnt mean anything by it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:56:08 No.19021595 >>19021590 Let me guess you're one of those guys who use 俺

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:56:42 No.19021600 >>19021571 そんなすげえ特権を利用しないなんて勿体無いな

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:57:23 No.19021604 I feel like I understand lowercase-kun now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:57:26 No.19021605 >>19021595 only with my okama nakama ninjas if i have to use a pronoun its わたし

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 18:59:04 No.19021615 >>19021590 I think he meant he is african ancestry black not australia burnt-skin black

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:00:34 No.19021625 >>19021615 no dude onions negro thats why it bugs me so much when people recklessly say the hard er n word

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:01:30 No.19021632 >>19019246 https://twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/980250433049395204 Wow. People here are jackasses.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:01:35 No.19021634 wow i cant even say onions negro what the fuck they really ran that shit in the ground didnt they

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:02:36 No.19021640 wow i cant even say it with a zero instead of an o そｙ negro they really fuckin ruined it for the rest of us

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:03:46 No.19021649 >>19021632 hey matt sup, getting much money from scams lately?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:05:44 No.19021663 >>19021632 >方言はできませんね。まあ、標準語を話しているつもりでも、僕も訛っているのである意味方言だと言えるのかもしれませんね he even fuckin uses maaaa when he writes avoid this dude at all costs

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:14:42 No.19021711 >>19021604 By that, you mean how incredibly easy it is to filter? Yeah its great

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>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:15:48 No.19021715 >>19021711 that response just shows i still occupy a place in your mind and heart youre losing

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:20:14 No.19021739 I heard meditation really helps with language acquisition. Is this true?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:22:52 No.19021751 >>19021739 Can't hurt. I'd also recommend finding a patreon to donate too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:26:36 No.19021766 which one of you did this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMqEikyh6lg

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:26:37 No.19021767 I don't watch anime or play games. The only Japanese media I consume are idol shows. Are there any pitfalls I might fall into?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:27:52 No.19021776 >>19021715 that response just shows i still occupy a place in your mum youre losing

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:28:40 No.19021780 >>19021776 ┐(‘～` )┌

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:28:50 No.19021783 How come there are two or more kanji for foot? 足脚

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:28:54 No.19021786 >>19021767 AOC can be an issue, changes per prefecture

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:31:20 No.19021804 File: 9 KB, 336x330, 6b0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19021767 >The only Japanese media I consume are idol shows

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:32:59 No.19021813 >>19021804 I have no idea what this image is supposed to convey to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:33:47 No.19021815 >>19021767 Why would you even bother.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:34:51 No.19021820 >>19021767 >Are there any pitfalls I might fall into? You already fell into the idol pitfall

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:35:08 No.19021821 >>19021815 yeah why would a idol otaku want to learn japanese much like people who want to learn nihongo watch childrens television read childrens books and play visual games for man children it all doesnt make sense

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:36:46 No.19021827 If one of your reasons for learning Japanese isn't to signal your intellect by understanding one of the hardest languages for an English-native to learn, then you don't belong here.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:37:56 No.19021833 I don't see why wota would be criticized here when 3/4 of this thread are anime otaku.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:38:01 No.19021834 any non japanese that finds out you learned japanese just thinks youre a weird ass wanker wanking at your mums house anyway so

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:38:14 No.19021835 >>19021827 >not an English-native Fuck.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:38:47 No.19021838
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>If one of your reasons for learning Japanese isn't to signal your intellect by understanding one of the hardest languages for an English-native to learn, then you don't belong here.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:39:06 No.19021839 >>19021835 If it's closely related then it'll still work.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:40:34 No.19021845 >>19021767 Who's your oshi

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:41:06 No.19021850 File: 53 KB, 640x480, gei.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/ Holy fuck this is so great, why isn't it in the OP or on the DJT guide index page?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:42:02 No.19021856 >決めつけないでくれません？　別に何もしちゃいません Is he asking for a task to do?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:42:22 No.19021859 File: 44 KB, 960x643, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19021850

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:43:24 No.19021863 >>19021845 Ono Erena, but that's besides the point.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:43:45 No.19021866 >>19021839 I don't think being from eastern europe counts as closely related.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:50:03 No.19021890 >>19021863 I see you're into underground idols.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:50:58 No.19021894 >>19021850 >ガエ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:51:02 No.19021895 With only being exposed to idol shows, I'm worried I might pick up language that's inappropriate for me. Like if an American male spoke like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amduldKKZO8 , I'm worried they'll think I'm retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:52:44 No.19021902 >>19021895 I don't think you need to worry about language being the cause of that

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:54:22 No.19021909 >>19021895 wow i watched that for 20 seconds and caught her aids thank you

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:56:19 No.19021911 >>19021850 >ガエ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:57:11 No.19021914 >>19021894 >>19021911 explain this meme please

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 19:58:57 No.19021924 ゲイ・・じゃない

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:01:18 No.19021931 Someone redpill me on AJATT

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:02:15 No.19021934 >>19021931 It's a worse RATTATA that has you waste time doing things other than reading and listening.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:04:20 No.19021941 >>19021924 僕は少しゲイですけど

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:04:39 No.19021942 if its got a stupid acronym they are full of shit

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:06:00 No.19021948 the only shit in RATTATA is the ATA part but that's just to make it a name

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:07:46 No.19021955 >>19021948 ratt would actually be pretty fuckin solid dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8teXR8VE4

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:09:22 No.19021957 okay but amphetamines can help

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:12:32 No.19021967 >>19021850 確かにいい筆跡だ本当にゲイかもしれん

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:19:50 No.19021994 FRELIMO (Fuck REading LIsten MOre)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:19:55 No.19021995 おいみんな手伝え

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:20:01 No.19021996 私は女の子

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:20:43 No.19022000 Lots Of Reading And Intentional Listening aka LO-RAIL

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:22:32 No.19022003 I just started RATTATA an hour ago and I feel amazing. It really works. I haven't learned any Japanese yet though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:25:03 No.19022011 >>19022003 You're supposed to put that part off until you do the basics man.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:25:58 No.19022012 What does AJATT basically do? Tl;dr please.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:26:32 No.19022016 >>19022012 it makes you do a whole lot of nothing with half your time instead of just learning japanese like it tells you to do with the other half of your time

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:27:27 No.19022021 >>19022012 removes unwanted head hair fast

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:28:25 No.19022030 >>19022012 I think its supposed to teach you Japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:31:12 No.19022040 >>19022021 Wtf I just realised matt = saitama >Saitama managed to get good at fighting by losing hair >Matt in a similar way managed to get good at nihongo by losing hair too it fucking fits

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:31:33 No.19022043 >>19021996 俺を太ももで絞めてくれ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:32:03 No.19022047 >>19022040 matt is far, far away from breaking his limits lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:34:08 No.19022049 >>19022040 >>19022047 to be fair matt isnt completely bald yet i dont think keep an eye on that hair line and when he stops saying maaaa all the time youll know hes finally arrived to b class

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:49:20 No.19022100 >>19022043 エッチスケッチ!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:54:41 No.19022116 todays nihongo word of the day is 臀部 check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 20:57:45 No.19022130 Today's japanese word of the day is 電気あんま

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:01:38 No.19022149 >>19021924 >>19021941 共産主義者です

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:02:23 No.19022156 Even when I see a word I know, I still check its reading because I somehow don't trust myself.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:02:52 No.19022157 今日s japanese 文字 of the day is 放電

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:06:39 No.19022170 今日の英語の言葉はniggerです

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:08:40 No.19022181 oh no why you do this

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:09:40 No.19022187 >>19022170 you triggered his chuuni

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:10:04 No.19022191 imabi no nihongo tango of the kyoukai no is desu ttsuube

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:10:15 No.19022193 >>19022156 Believe in yourself, anon-kun!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:12:17 No.19022199 >>19022170 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mosX7L25HV8#t=67

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:15:37 No.19022214 >>19022199 >unarmed self-defense against a knife it's impossible. this video is gonna get some idiot killed thinking he can fight a knife

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:17:08 No.19022224 >>19022181 >>19022187 >>19022199 W-what did I do?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:18:36 No.19022234 >>19022224 >W-what did I do? Can't say the n word

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:18:58 No.19022236

>>19022214
im not a tough guy well i play one on the internet but i think vs the average idiot troublemaker swiftness will still win if you know what youre doing and arent easily read (think like its easy to tell someones gonna do shit cause they tense up but if youre like water..)

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:19:16 No.19022238 >>19022234 なんで?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:21:16 No.19022251 >>19022238 悪い言葉ですよ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:22:49 No.19022257 >>19022238 A janny is probably black and gets upset at words

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:23:35 No.19022262 >>19022238 悪いこと言っちゃダメッ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:25:48 No.19022272 Imagine getting upset at words.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:26:59 No.19022279 imagine pretending to get upset at words because its fun to watch folks disgrace themselves

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:27:33 No.19022280 Imagine being so edgy that you use the n word

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:28:42 No.19022284 スレチはもうやめようぜ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:28:56 No.19022286 see how edgy it is when you get bladed

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:29:25 No.19022287
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What would be the best way to translate the sentence：スレに隊長の写真があげられてる
My grammar skills are still super weak so I really don't understand the rareru form, especially when it is partnered with te-iru. Is the te-iru only indicating an ongoing verb here? As for the verb itself, it seems like there is a lot of possible meanings for it and I really don't know, even though context rules out a couple. All I know is that there is a photo in the thread that Erika is going to save. Any advice?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:30:27 No.19022294 >>19022287 are you trying to understand or are you trying to translate

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:31:34 No.19022297 >>19022294 both. detailed explanations would be appreciated

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:31:35 No.19022298 >>19022287 a 写真 of 隊長 has been put up on the スレ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:32:14 No.19022301 >>19022297 sorry i don't help translators who don't know japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:32:39 No.19022302 黒人が悪いです

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:34:17 No.19022308 >>19022302 >too low level to properly insult someone Use 黒ん坊

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:35:03 No.19022311 >>19022287 why you making it complicated >>19022302 へー黒人の事もっと教えてくれないかな

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:35:36 No.19022314 File: 221 KB, 300x276, invincible miho.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19022298 thank you anon

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:37:37 No.19022321 File: 21 KB, 500x375, 1514066356990.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] imagine being at computers

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:39:34 No.19022328 File: 43 KB, 667x576, 4579t45ytg7hy47gy49sgdfhjf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] one more for the road minna genki?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:40:23 No.19022334 >>19022308 That sounds condescending as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:40:53 No.19022336 lets not be elitist because of whatever that one pasta said

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:41:43 No.19022342 >>19022336 what pasta

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:42:06 No.19022345 genkuarimasen

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:42:32 No.19022350

>>19022342
Let's remember to not be an elitist to fellow learners

Everyone is at different stages and improve at different rates. I've seen lots of stories here about being put down from friends about the interest in learning and people who keep it to themselves for that reason. It would be even more discouraging to be put down by those who should be your peers.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:42:44 No.19022351 >>19022342 idk i think its in this thread just ctrl f elitist

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:42:59 No.19022354

Let's remember to not be an elitist to fellow learners. Everyone is at different stages and improve at different rates. I've seen lots of stories hea here about being put down from friends about the interest in learning and people who keep it to themselves for that reason. It would be even more discouraging to be put down by those who should be your peers.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:43:35 No.19022357 >>19022354 haha i found it first

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:43:46 No.19022358 yeah thats the one lets fuckin be kind and rewind and shit

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:44:08 No.19022359 >>19022350 lol why are redditors such babs >>19022354 haha the other guy found it first

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:44:12 No.19022361 Remember to be elitist.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:45:04 No.19022363 Can I still be an elitist if I don't know Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:45:39 No.19022365 >>19022363 relax we understand j00

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:45:55 No.19022366 >>19022363 Yes. Nobody who knows Japanese would be here anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:46:09 No.19022367 >>19022363 only if you tell other people "you don't know japanese" whenever they ask you a question

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:46:29 No.19022370 >>19022363 Yes, just like everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:46:50 No.19022372 i swear to god if you tell me i dont know japanese one more fuckin time..

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:47:17 No.19022376 >>19022372 You don't know Japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:48:05 No.19022381 >>19022372 You don't know Japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:49:06 No.19022384 >>19022372 You don't even know English.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:55:50 No.19022399 >>19022372 お前は日本語を知らない

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 21:58:06 No.19022408 >>19022399 fuckin kimi koso dude

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:03:12 No.19022426 あきらめるにはまだ早すぎる

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:03:25 No.19022428 >>19022408 omae mo

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:04:20 No.19022433 >>19022428 shinderoo

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:04:50 No.19022436 射精するにはまだ早すぎる

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:05:23 No.19022440 but seriously >>19021766

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:09:02 No.19022454 >>19022440 nice try, shill. not watching your video

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:09:36 No.19022456 >>19021766 >>19022440 looks like matt's alt account or a faker

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:09:58 No.19022457 Guys, today I took my first step in learning Japanese. Did 40 words on Anki. I'm doing 40 words every day for the next 6 weeks so I can have the 2k done by July 1st. Feels good.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:10:38 No.19022460 >>19022454 its not actually worth watching anyway but i found my way to that shit when that one fuck head linked matts twitter and i feel like ive heard that voice before on a vocaroo posted in a thread

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:11:05 No.19022462 >>19022457 Bad sign man. People like talking about learning Japanese so they can feel good without having done all the necessary work. You should delete this post and remind yourself that you need to stay motivated.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:12:10 No.19022464 >>19022462 I don't have much of a choice, I move to Japan Sep 1st. That's why I have such a high daily card count.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:13:13 No.19022468 >>19022464 youre just gonna be like holy shit the cards did nothing and now im just learning for real in the streets i hope you got other shit going on besides flashcards

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:14:38 No.19022473 how many of kohhs tunes do i need to listen to if i want to learn japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:14:38 No.19022474 >>19022468 Getting the vocab done by July 1st gives me 2 months to dedicate to practice listening and producing. I'm just trying to build a base as quickly as possible right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:17:01 No.19022483 >>19022474 im rollin my eyes but uh gambale dude a little bit of somethin is better than nothin in my eyes

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:19:06 No.19022489 >>19022473 kohh doesnt have enough shit to get you there you gotta take it all the way back to early rhymester and listen to everything since if you wanna stand a chance of living the ヒップホップドリーム and be the 不可能を可能にした外人

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:20:34 No.19022493 >>19022483 I'm not trying to get to conversational mode by then. I'm just trying to be at "manage to get by mode". With 3.5 months I can do better than set phrases from Pimsleur or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:24:13 No.19022505 Why don't we learn kanji the same way that Japanese school children do, ie 1st grade kanji, 2nd grade, etc in order?

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:28:54 No.19022519

>>19022505
fuckin go for it dude if youre learning something then youre doing ok

some peeps are gonna tell you its too slow or wrong or whatever and maybe theres some valid reasons to it but why deprive yourself of living the nipponjin experience even if its just a self taught mockery

you can even do the calligraphy and hang it up in your bedroom and show your mom

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:29:23 No.19022521 >>19022505 They take close to decade to learn the jouyou kanji.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:29:41 No.19022525 >>19022505 Is this from reddit?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:30:55 No.19022527 >>19022521 but you can just take a faster pace through the material because we all know educational curriculums take things pretty slow let the boy do it let him live the mypace life

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:31:50 No.19022529 >>19022521 Well considering my mind is stronger than an elementary school student, I don't have to wait a year in between. I could probably learn all of 1st grade kanji in a day if I set my mind to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:32:39 No.19022533 you hear that all of 1st grade in a day this guys a born winner hes gonna do it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:33:57 No.19022542 i mean if donald trump was able to become president surely you can become an astronaut or a fire fighter or fluent enough in japanese to read the instructions on the back of the ramen value pack you got from amazon.jp.co lol

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:34:12 No.19022543 oh keep in mind if youre gonna go with school shit you gotta do your summer reading dude make sure you read what youre supposed to

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:34:46 No.19022547 how will elementary school students ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:35:14 No.19022549 >>19022542 oh man i was loving this till you said amazon dude why not fuckin costco or something oh it was almost great

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:35:48 No.19022552 nah man summer if for sticking half melted popsicles in your osanananajimis loli manko >>19022549 sorry lol

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:35:48 No.19022553 File: 36 KB, 925x711, 1523553489197.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why dont we just learn japanese like japanese people do?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:36:49 No.19022556 Do you guys honestly think it's difficult to learn 80 kanji in a day? I haven't started learning kanji yet but it seems pretty intuitive.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:37:28 No.19022557 dude i just thought of something epic why dont we all just reroll until were born japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:38:26 No.19022561 >>19022556 Why don't you start and tell us what you think? On second thought, please don't.

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:39:12 No.19022563

>>19022529
I mean grade 1 kanji are basically pictographs so i wouldn't be too proud about that. Either way it's extremely ineffective, is there any reason why you want to learn using their methods other than muh genuine jap experience? cause i can't think of any advantages to it considering you'd learn some really common kanji last if you did it in the order they teach.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:40:37 No.19022570 >>19022553 just go fuckin audit sho gakko dude lol

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:41:08 No.19022573 >>19022563 I just figured they had good reason to teach it in the order they do. Maybe not, or at least their reason is not applicable to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:41:20 No.19022576 Studying kanji is a pointless waste of time and effort.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:42:16 No.19022583 tl note: this post does not mean that it is a waste of time to learn to read words written in kanji

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:42:17 No.19022584 >>19022573 there is a reason to it all but unless youre gaining context from the material its sadly no more effective than the flashcards

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:42:21 No.19022586 Everyone is learning Japanese for different reasons. There is no aspect that is a pointless waste of time and effort.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:43:36 No.19022594 Studying Japanese is a pointless waste of time and effort.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:44:30 No.19022597 >>19022573 The reason they teach the order they do is because of the age of the kids in each grade, they could teach a useful kanji like 政 because a child is not likely to understand those concepts so they wouldn't stick.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:45:03 No.19022599 >learning Japanese for vns isn't wasting time The absolute state, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:45:09 No.19022601 >>19022594 And water is wet 大将

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:46:26 No.19022607 >>19022597 I knew you post here, matt.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:47:19 No.19022610 Is there any way to make learning people's names in kanji not be terrible? I even see Japanese misread names all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:47:53 No.19022614 >>19022607 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:47:59 No.19022616 >>19022586 >>19022594 >>19022599 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtSj-n7Haow#t=119

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:50:38 No.19022624 >>19022607 But thatt just makes sense you dont need to be matt to grasp that concept and whats the problem of taking valid and logical advice into acount despite of who gives it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:50:57 No.19022626 >>19022610 That's the most fun aspect of kanji, my man. You feel great when you guess them, which happens often, and if you don't, you don't. There's no reason to feel bad for not knowing something you can't.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:51:16 No.19022630 >>19022624 t. matt

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:52:04 No.19022633 >>19022624 >thatt Damn, matt.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:52:24 No.19022635 thatt

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:53:08 No.19022640 Mattata aka maa-ing all the time and twitter anxiety

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:54:38 No.19022648 you ever see the smash hit 90s anime shojo kakumei utena and theres the 1 episode where the ojosama ass bitch spends a entire episode mooing and turns into a cow thatts matt except hes gonna turn into a sheep from all his maaaing

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:55:35 No.19022652 File: 170 KB, 267x247, banana.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] know why there are no dentists in honolulu? because ha wa ii

Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:56:11 No.19022657
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>>19011899
>そうか‥‥家族には相談できない決まりだものな
What does the 決まり mean here? I'm guessing that もの is the explicative one.
>I see... Just don't discuss this with your family.(that's the only condition for talking to you about this)
Is all I got, but I still can't quite understand that usage of 決まり.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:56:16 No.19022658 >>19022648 Man, matt really lives in your head rent free, doesn't he?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:57:34 No.19022667 >>19022657 決まり is a stem of 決まる. Hope you understand now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:57:37 No.19022669 >>19022657 pretend it says to kimatta wake da or something

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:57:44 No.19022670 >>19022658 It's okay, Matt.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:57:51 No.19022671 >>19022652 youre fuckin dead banana boy >>19022658 this is the first thread in my history where i name dropped him more than once and like ragged on him i just felt like joining in on the shit this time

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:58:39 No.19022674 >>19022640 p-please laugh

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:59:42 No.19022679 will thatt become the newest djt meme?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 22:59:58 No.19022681 >>19022674 I will if you explain what rattata is.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:00:21 No.19022685 >>19022681 reading all the time and taking amphetamines

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:00:29 No.19022687 >>19022674 lol dude nice

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:02:48 No.19022696 >>19020841 >>19021201 Manga isn't reading though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:03:35 No.19022701 >>19022696 Manga doesn't have a brain so yeah they wouldn't be reading anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:04:16 No.19022706 Tips for skipping reading/writing and learning speech first? I don't want to live in Japan I just wanna watch muh animu

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:05:14 No.19022711 >>19022706 read manga and watch anime then you'll learn fine

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:05:34 No.19022714 >>19022706 then just fuckin watch it a lot of it and dont even think about nihongo for 10000 hours then you can think about nihongo and study and shit

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:05:51 No.19022715 >>19022711 But you can't read manga since manga isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:05:58 No.19022717 >>19022706 its easy just read

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:13:51 No.19022757 Living is a pointless waste of time and effort

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:14:39 No.19022759 Just watch manga.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:19:04 No.19022778 just read lick g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE-OhJlaRHk

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:23:14 No.19022797 I don't think I'm quite getting how they interpret フォロー has anyone got a good grasp on this or an example sentence

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:24:52 No.19022809 ったく、僕ら本当にゲイだぞ。

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:25:38 No.19022813 >>19022809 俺たち本当にゲイ

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:26:34 No.19022820 >>19022809 >>19022813 共産主義者ですけど

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:31:00 No.19022833 >>19022809 >>19022813 ウーパールーパですけど

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:34:15 No.19022841 >>19022669 But 決まったわけだ wouldn't work after a verb here. I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:35:42 No.19022849 >>19022841 と

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 13, 2018 23:40:39 No.19022874 >>19022833 またそんな話かまあわたしはゲイ >>19022841 dude 決まり is a thing i dont get what ur hangup is

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