DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #1930

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.

Read the Guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Check the Cornucopia of Resources before asking where to download X or Y:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/cor.html

Previous: >>18985840

[Anonymous No.]

Let's remember to not be an elitist to fellow learners. Everyone is at different stages and improve at different rates. I've seen lots of stories hea here about being put down from friends about the interest in learning and people who keep it to themselves for that reason. It would be even more discouraging to be put down by those who should be your peers.

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>>18997576
oh no what a fuckin disaster

live footage of the op https://streamable.com/l71cf

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u7a23iUSsU

Guys, how am I supposed to translate the lyrics for the best Japanese song ever made, if I'm terrible at understanding and writing Japanese?

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>>18997648
you're not

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aRKpH3K_I

guys how am i supposed to translate the lyrics for the best japanese song ever made if im terrible at understanding and writing japanese

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>>18997648
Man, what is this pretentious trash? Even if you could understand what they're saying, you still wouldn't know what they're trying to say.

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>>18997648
well looks like you wont even make it past the title there lmao

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>>18997576

[Anonymous No.]

おはようでござるます皆さん

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>>18997725
いやな朝だぜ

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>>18997616

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>>18997808
it's a reddit post dude

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>>18997811
I know, the image is aimed at the one copying posts from reddit

[Anonymous No.]

someone needs to start posting djt posts on reddit its only fair

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>>18997677
You're trash.

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>>18997821
They might learn something, God forbid.

[Anonymous No.]

So I am just about to round 3 years of japanese "learning". For the sake of interest I thought to post the Anki stats for the Core 6K deck in that time. Though it has been a long time since I visited DJT I seem to remember these Anki posts always being made by people only a few weeks in, and so looking at a "finished" deck might be fun. As for why I continue? Well, it has just become a habit and I finish it in like 1 minute or so every day, as there only appear 5-10 cards. When actually learning the cards I had it set to 30 new ones every day.
Remember, you can't learn japanese if you can't put in some work!

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竜-->龍
This seems like something that would make absolutely no sense in speech

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>>18997834
>90% days studied
shameful display

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>>18997842
why

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>>18997842
气にしないで

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>>18997860
Both are pronounced りゅう, but one is stronger than the other, and she's comparing them.

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>>18997862
no?

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>>18997872
no ¿

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>>18997859
しかたがないね

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>>18997670
Man, every single song you have posted has been trash. It's crazy how consistently garbage your taste is.

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>>18997929
much like your posting

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>>18997933
Something we have in common, at least.

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>>18997576
How many has been here since thread #1 and how good is your proficiency now?

[Anonymous No.]

Learning Kana feels annoying while learning Kanji feels good. Prove me wrong.

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>>18997862
はいこれ、メを落とした

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>>18997986
I couldn't, since I learned kana too fast.

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>>18997980
Me, and I passed N1 in 2015 (maybe not thread 1, but one of the early ones, when it was actually "Daily" and OP posted Kanji each thread)

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>>18997980
I'm fluent

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>>18997994
It says something that the day spent learning Kana feels more annoying than the years spent learning Kanji.

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>>18997929
He's only posted one song, you moron.

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>>18998030
Technically, he hasn't ever posted a single song, since rap doesn't qualify as either music nor singing.

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>>18998083
Wasn't it Lowercase-Kun posting the rap songs though?

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>>18998030
i think he means ever and always

anyway heres #2 for all the boys and girls in djt land

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES7csIRhn_8

i hope all the chicks itt can break their shells and be born into the world of nihongo someday

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>>18998093
Who do you think I'm referring to?

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>>18998100
First guy who posted a song wasn't Lowercase-Kun

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>>18998106
lk-kun doesn't post songs.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah i post real ninja elegies

[Anonymous No.]

That's a mighty big word for your limited dictionary.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-6jdhE_KSQ

this is one of my favorite songs

[Anonymous No.]

i can use words that are even 8 9 and 10 letters

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>>18998138
very cool dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knC4r2leVF0

let me take you back to the day

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>>18998083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Lmnxp0BoQ

You're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

High tier samefagging

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>>18998083
>since rap doesn't qualify as either music nor singing.
Finally someone correctly identifies monkey screeching for what it is

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>>18998187
thats dope dude makes me think of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvOBHAfXX1Y

>>18998238
sorry hater cant hear you over all the screeching : )

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ずっと学期が終わったから暗記を済ませる気がなくなってしまったんだ。無論、毎日済ませてるけど掛かる時間が倍増した。戦意喪失という状態かな？

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>>18998254
すごいな

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>>18998248
>mixing English with Japanese that much

Kind of shitty honestly.

https://soundcloud.com/vvotaro/katsuage

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>>18998254
Depending on how many words you have, I'd stop adding new words to anki for a little bit and read more.

If you have enough words to read somewhat comfortably you'll gain reading skill. If you don't have enough words to read comfortably then you'll be reinvigorated to get more words.

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>>18998285
well shit if we doin soundclouds now

https://soundcloud.com/nichibeihiphop/mouri-motonari

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Okay, so I started learning japanese for applying to a Gakubu scholarship here in Argentina. I already got the Kana pretty much down after two weeks, but I lack a lot of vocabulary.
Any tips on improving this? Anki decks maybe?
Sorry for my shit inglés

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>>18998318

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>>18998307
Now you're dropping the ball. You know it's bad when even I can understand the lyrics somewhat. I have to switch it up now.

https://soundcloud.com/the-wedding-mistakes/midnight-searchlight-feat-yonyon

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>>18998318
10000 hours of spanish subbed anime dude

here let me get you started

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0H0T1yZu58

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>>18998318

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>>18998318
The op literally says "read the guide" 3 times.

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>>18998344
its nichibei hiphop dude thats the point

also thats not rap dude i cant engage with that in a positive way

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>>18998318
Nice to see a fellow argie here but, you can't learn Japanese my dude.

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>>18998346
spanish subbed anime sucks ass because it's generally subbed by spaniards, who have an absolutely cringy slang

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>>18998362
Don't be a one genre baby like the kid crying about rap not being music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QC6lgdIFxA

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>>18998371
everything is possible with our lord and savior Macri boludo

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>>18997980
I've been in DJT since it was on /a/.
I'm pretty much an oldfag now

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>>18998406
Was it anywhere else before it was on /a/?

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>>18998387
im not a one genre baby but if we go outside of rap theres a lot of shit i do and dont like

but instead of hate i just politely say i cant engage positively

since you post rip slyme though ill post like that 1 halcali song that i used to blaze to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYye_0T0Mco

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>>18998433
And now I'm about to blow your mind with the best Japanese rapper of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLhyAl-4NxI

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>>18998452
gaijins like shing02/nujabes and the related like white people like wutang clan

i was expecting you to go there eventually

hes still ok tho but activist rap doesnt really bang dude

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>>18998513
Don't use words you don't know the meaning of. Neither of those are gaijin. Idiot. You're the reason people call rap monkey screeching.

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>>18998527
You yourself are enough of a reason.

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>>18998527
control your rage and reread before you let your posting .40 bang

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>>18998547
>u mad xd post

Didn't expect anything else from a weaboo. This conversation is done.

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>>18998513
Both Nujabes and Shing02 are based as fuck, despite westerners getting their claws into them. It is kinda gross to see the youtube comments on all nujabes songs sucking him off as if he was the second coming simply because he died. Fuck people that do that.

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>>18998527
see >>18998351

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>>18998561
syojiki gakkali dah zeh

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>>18998563
yeah i mean i still think like shing02s cool and all like especially at the time like 15 years ago dude that shit was in style

but now it is what it is

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>>18998564
I have a score of 110/120 on my TOEFL exam, so you're free to cry yourself to sleep now.

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>>18998591
>measuring language skill with an exam
You need at least 80 IQ to post here.

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>>18998591
えらいえらい～（なでなで

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>>18998606
>measuring language skill with an exam

Which is what exams are for, and how language skill is measured, yes. Stay mad.

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>>18998318
Don't let these cucks tell you that you can't do it. Prove them wrong. Then brag about it here and continue the tradition of telling newfags who can't read the OP to fuck off (I'm not being facetious - you really should do this).

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Hard to tell what you retards are even arguing about

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>rap
Fuck off

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>>18998632
Nothing at all, it's just some angry edgy kid trying to start shit with everyone because he has no life.

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>>18998591
>He had to even take an English test
>He doesn't just know it
Can't.

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>>18998659
You seriously can't be this stupid. Please be joking.

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this is more your speed my ninja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loBSPX83Y6Q

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>>18998671
I'd consider that test rubbish considering your reading comprehension is terrible seeing as how you terribly misunderstood the guy who said gaijins like nujabes to meaning that nujabes is a gaijin

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>>18998280
すごい？なんで？
>>18998287
I've got 9000 words done, I'm trying to knock out the Core 10k before I take a break on new words. I've been reading 最強伝説黒沢 and watching 蟲師 with Japanese subtitles.

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It is realistic to have mastered Core2k on Anki by July 1st? I'm not really doing much of anything else.

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>>18998752
you can be the cardmaster but you could be learning nihongo instead

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>>18998740
Not my fault his English is terrible, and his spelling especially.

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>>18998766
you struggling for damage control is the most darling shit my ninja

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>>18998766
No, it is your fault seeing as though everyone was calling you out on your terrible English for not understanding him and most people seemed to understand him since they called you out on being a retarded ESL monkey.

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>>18998760
I'm planning on following the guide in the OP, is that no longer the recommended method?

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>>18998740
To be fair that post was terribly written, and even as a native English speaker it took me several re-reads to figure out what it was trying to say. Language tests are shit, though. Even ones aimed at native speakers are shit.

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>>18998781
Guide gives you many approaches, that wasn't the only one they present, just a possibility. If you wanna just do RTK instead and learn readings through context and exposure i'd consider that a better use of your time.

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>>18998778
>most people

Just you being autistic. And my English is top tier, proven by my language certificate. I'm not obliged to decipher facebook tier grammar with no punctuation or anything. You defending that type of posting makes you look like the monkey.

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>>18998791
You're probably just retarded.
I understood it just fine after the first read.

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>>18998794
Not defending anything, I'm just saying that if you struggled that bad and people told you to re-read the post and you still either didn't get it then your English is terrible

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>>18998813
You are clearly defending it, and my English is perfectly fine, and you have no arguments to prove otherwise. All you can do is keep on screeching.

>>18998808
>monkeys being able to understand each other

What a surprise.

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fuck man i just wanted to trade raps

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>>18998826
Should have posted actual rap then, and not garbage trap.

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>>18998823
Me making fun of your terrible English and calling you out on your Dunning-Kruger effect doesn't really equate to me defending Lowercase-Kun's English.

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>>18998839
why dont you shut your garbage trap my ninja lol

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>>18998794
>And my English is top tier
ESL English will never be top tier.

>proven by my language certificate
Trash. Throw it in the garbage.

>I'm not obliged to decipher facebook tier grammar with no punctuation or anything
I'm not defending trash grammar and punctuation, but if you actually have difficulty reading that, your English comprehension is far from top tier. In fact it's utter trash.

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>>18998847
Well then you're embarrassing yourself and posting off topic for no reason, because my English is high level.

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>>18998839
All rap is garbage though.

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>>18998862
sos your face!!

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>>18998861
see >>18998851

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If you're a fucking ESL your English is not high level and never fucking will be. Get over it.
A native will always be better than you. Even if said native sucks.

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>>18998851
Good thing you're an irrelevant nobody, and your personal opinion on language certificates, or the English language is very irrelevant. Keep crying.

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>>18998851
>>18998878
What about Nabokov?

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>>18998861
>you're embarrassing yourself
You mean kind of like what you're doing with this shameful display of damage control? What really surprises me is that you were told to read the post again and you still didn't understand it and somehow blames anyone but yourself.

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DJT not DET okay god bless.

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wait this is the guy that was telling everyone to get jobs or some shit

full stop boys youre getting "trolled" lol

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>>18998887
>damage control

Stop using words you don't understand, it doesn't help you fit in. If you talk shit to me, I'm free to defend myself with arguments, which you can't disprove. You bitching for no reason is why you're embarrassing yourself.

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>>18998878
Yes and let me guess, that's also the sole reason why you can't learn japanese

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>>18998880
Way more relevant than your opinion, considering I'm a native and you're not.

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>>18998909
>"i-it's your fault i can't comprehend a simple sentence even after reading it multiple times and being told i'm misinterpreting it"
>not damage control
just get a tripcode so i can fucking filter you

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>>18998917
You being a native means absolutely nothing. The people who scored my test and gave me my language certificate are the ones who get to have a say on the matter. You're a literally nothing.

>>18998919
Again, I said I'm good at English, not monkey speak. If you're this mad you're free to leave.

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kamisama if youre watching i just wanna let you know im sorry

please bathe this hell pit in your holy light and purify us all

amen

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it's amazing how a simple english comprehension mistake can cause a huge shitposting war

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>>18998941
Wouldn't if he hadn't blamed other people for his mistake.

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its the reason why this thread should be on int honestly

flags would bypass this entire thing

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>>18998941
Wouldn't have happened if a no life autist would have kept his irrelevant opinions to himself.

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no thanks I prefer english grammar shitposting over flag shitposting

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fucked up if true

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>>18998936
>You being a native means absolutely nothing
Yeah it means I have the authority to tell you your English is trash and you have to accept it, ESL-kun.
Your certificate means nothing. If you're not native you don't know English.

>I said I'm good at English, not monkey speak.
Part of being good at a language is being able to comprehend shitty grammar of said language.

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reminder that dialects aren't japanese

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lets fuckin flip the checkerboard here and rag on people who put stock in jlpt since all this applies to that as well

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>>18998974
>Yeah it means I have the authority

No you don't. You're a nobody. My certificate was issued by authorized professionals, not some neet loser from 4chan.

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i don't know who's worse, the retard himself or the people who keep replying to him

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>>18997815
>the one

don't tell him

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>>18998992
there it is boys i fuckin nailed that shit >>18998894

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Matt's earning like 1500 on patreon now. Redpill me guys, is AJATT a meme or is this real? That's a lot of money...

[Anonymous No.]

looks like it really is the guy who was telling people to get jobs lol

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>>18998992
People who know English don't have to get certificates that say they know English.

You're like someone with N1 lecturing Japanese people on how they're not qualified to talk about Japanese.

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How do you balance Japanese learning among your other hobbies? I've found that ever since I started learning Japanese, all of my other hobbies have gone completely to the way-side. I used to finish a book or two a month, watch a TV series every month or so, finish a video game or two, play guitar, etc. Now essentially all of that time gets eaten up by Japanese and I almost feel guilty if I'm "wasting" my time just idling on the couch for 15 minutes instead of doing something useful. I think one of my biggest issues is that I'll often spend like 4 hours after work "studying" Japanese, of which maybe two of those hours are actually head-down productive time, and the rest of it is spent looking around Japanese StackExchange threads and zoning out. What are your thoughts?

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>>18998992
A language is defined by how the natives use it. If a native tells you your skills in that language are trash, then they are trash.

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Imagine being an EOP who's trying to gatekeep his simplistic language.

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>>18999003
Sad you're illiterate, because I've never said anything like what you implied in that post.

>>18999009
They don't, but I still have the certificate, and you're still mad.

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>>18999007
The AJATT method/Matt's interpretation of it obviously work, I don't think you'll find many people who disagree with it. The real problem is that AJATT proponents seem to believe it's the only thing that works, which is retarded. Plus AJATT itself has plenty of bullshit in it.

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>>18999007
moneys actually really easy to get on the internet just get you some

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>>18999007
The fundamentals surely aren't in the wrong place, the question is if the trade-off for dedicating that much time is worth it. AJATT seems to be focused on trying really hard to be native but none of them got there. it's an impossible goal. Matt himself almost quit AJATT for good when he realized he would never be Japanese

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>>18999018
No, sorry. Ghetto dialects aren't English. You can't define shit unless you're a professional, which you're not.

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>>18999024
>They don't, but I still have the certificate, and you're still mad.
I can't imagine why I would be "mad" that a foreigner has the "I'm not a total retard in English" certificate.

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>>18999022
Simplistic, and yet you still can't comprehend it properly.

[Anonymous No.]

i think i already know the answer but

minna genki?

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>>18999032
African-American Vernacular English (AAVE), known less precisely as Black Vernacular, Black English Vernacular (BEV), Black Vernacular English (BVE), or colloquially Ebonics (a controversial term),[1] is the variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of English natively spoken by most working- and middle-class African Americans and some Black Canadians, particularly in urban communities.

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>>18999034
If you weren't mad you wouldn't have started this.

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>>18999032
>Ghetto dialects aren't English
Ghettos aren't natives, so you're right there.

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>>18999039
What haven't I been able to comprehend exactly?

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>>18999047
genkuarimashinai

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>>18999049
>"if you're making fun of me and calling me retarded that means you're mad"

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>>18999051
A Ghetto isn't a person, so it can't be native by default. Ghetto inhabitants on the other hand, that were born there, are in fact natives. Yes, I'm right there.

>>18999061
You clearly are if you continue responding after you've lost the argument with no way of winning.

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>>18999049
I didn't start this, I did a ride-along because thinking that TOEFL makes you a better authority on English dialects than a native is like saying that N1 makes you a better authority on Iwate-ben than a native Japanese person.

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>>18999047
genkina wakega naidesyo, surega arasareterusi

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>>18999068
Work on your reading comprehension then, because I never said that.

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>>18999075
The fact that you're lecturing native speakers on English dialect strongly implies that it's what you believe.

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>>18999066
You literally went from saying everyone was retarded until i explained to you that you read the post wrong to "that's not English though lol. My English is perfect". My fault on pointing out, i should've known you wouldn't be able to admit your own mistakes. Won't waste a single paragraph on your anymore. Enjoy being retarded and blaming others for your mistakes.

[Anonymous No.]

lets just all come together and appreciate how fuckin sick nasty lick g is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPLloHv5Rhc

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>>18999087
Good thing I never did that.

>>18999094
Work on your reading comprehension, I never said my English is perfect. As for the rest of your drivel, see >>18998794

Obviously you lose the argument and give up, next time don't start in the first place. You shit the whole thread up with your autism.

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>>18999112
>Good thing I never did that.
"Ghetto dialects aren't English. You can't define shit unless you're a professional, which you're not."

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>>18999015
Thats quite a bit of hobbies lol. You mentioned that you read books, so why not just read jap? I also treat japanese as a hobby and hobbies can be easily put aside for other matters, after all, whats the rush? I have another hobby which is papercraft and i browse /po/ on the daily. Im gearing up for a gundam im excited to build and i just know that i will have to sacrifice study time for it. I guess my point is that you have to be ok with not learning japanese of you want to do something else for a bit (just not for too long).

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>>18999119
Which is me exactly not doing what you implied I did.

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>>18999126
>Which is me exactly not doing what you implied I did.
You are lecturing, me, a native English speaker, on what is and isn't English, and furthermore, you're doing it in direct contradiction to what professional linguists believe.

Your TOEFL certificate does not quality you to do this.

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>>18999133
If you unironically think ghetto talk is real English, then I'm sorry for you.

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>>18999140
have fun living as a crank

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>>18999140
Ghetto talk is how rich farmers spoke 150 years ago.

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>>18999140
>dialects aren't real

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>>18999142
Have fun living as a mcdonalds employee.

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>>18999140
>real English
You didn't say "real English." You said "English." You've only added the word "real" after the fact because it's a weasel word that allows you to define "real English" to be literally anything you want it to be, because you're a backpedaling faggot and an outright liar.

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>>18999149
You sure are projecting really hard.

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>>18999149
but i thought i was a neet? :^)

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>>18999140
>>18999149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYdQGkgrN4#t=69

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>>18999147
Proof?

>>18999148
Who are you quoting?

>>18999155
My bad, didn't know your reading comprehension was so bad, you need to take everything so literally and out of context.

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>>18999166
You literally don't get a say in reading comprehension after misunderstanding that post and insisting everyone was being retarded until you had someone literally hold your hand through reading it.

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>>18999165
wtf why do I like this

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>>18999166
>My bad, didn't know your reading comprehension was so bad
You made an objectively incorrect statement and felt the need to edit YOUR OWN statement when you made it the second time because you know it could not stand up on the facts.

>you need to take everything so literally and out of context.
"I didn't actually mean what I said" is not a defense. The words you use have meanings. You don't get to make up definitions on the spot or claim you were making some sort of fanciful allegory after the fact.

If I said Iwate-ben was not Japanese, everyone in this thread would be correct in calling me a fucking retard. I don't get to go back after the fact and say that what I meant is that it's not "real Japanese."

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>>18999176
I do, because your reading comprehension is terrible, otherwise you wouldn't have posted irrelevant arguments and take my words out of context. As for the rest, it was already addressed in >>18998794

>>18999180
That statement was a perfectly acceptable way of expressing that ghetto talk, that's not respected anywhere but in your ghetto, isn't real English. You're desperately trying to argue semantics, because you can't win. Sad.

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>>18999166
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t#Prescription_and_stigma
>Historically, this was not the case. For most of its history, ain't was acceptable across many social and regional contexts. Throughout the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, ain't and its predecessors were part of normal usage for both educated and uneducated English speakers, and was found in the correspondence and fiction of, among others, Jonathan Swift, Lord Byron, Henry Fielding, and George Eliot.[26] For Victorian English novelists William Makepeace Thackeray and Anthony Trollope, the educated and upper classes in 19th century England could use ain't freely, but in familiar speech only.[27] Ain't continued to be used without restraint by many upper middle class speakers in southern England into the beginning of the 20th century.[28][29]

The slaves learned their English from the farmers who owned them. Of course they would speak the same, then once freed, the communities that had their economic cheat taken away from them would work to stigmatize the people they could no longer exploit.

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>>18999178

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>>18999189
How is this ghetto talk?

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>>18999187
>I do
Nah, sorry. ESLs don't have a say in anything.

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>>18999201
Are you serious?

You don't know English.

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>>18999187
>isn't real English
You didn't say that it wasn't "real English." You are like someone who doctors a transcript after the fact to claim that it's what he's been saying all along.

>You're desperately trying to argue semantics, because you can't win. Sad.
I'm winning the semantic argument: you made a statement that was false unless you interject words that weren't there to begin with. That is to say, you're a backpedaling liar. Analyzing the fact that you made a statement that was both false and retarded requires semantics.

In context, we can see that you meant it literally, because you specifically said that a professional would have to make that determination. You only claimed that you didn't mean what you actually said after somebody gave you a reference that proved that you were wrong and retarded.

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>>18999201
"ain't" is literally the single strongest and most obvious indicator of "ghetto" english

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>>18999202
Doesn't change that fact that I'm right, and also you don't have a say in anything either.

>>18999208
I do, I have a score of 110/120 on my TOEFL certificate.

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>>18999214
You're wrong and you don't know English.

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>/djt/ - daily english thread

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>>18999219
based

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>>18999214
>I do, I have a score of 110/120 on my TOEFL certificate.
Congratulations passing a test that retarded children can pass. Try taking a test that measures actual knowledge of English rather than the deliberately watered-down shit they give you to prove you know "English as a foreign language."

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>>18999214
If you would place a comma after "bad" in
>My bad, didn't know your reading comprehension was so bad, you need to take everything so literally and out of context.
then your English skill is not nativelike, not even in written English.

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>>18999230
>>/djt/

[Anonymous No.]

ESL-Kun, post vocaroo clips to show how profficient you are in English :^)

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit fuckin an hour and a half of this shit

[Anonymous No.]

これから日本語だけ使ってください。

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>>18999243
>tfw watched 4 episodes of raw anime while the autists are arguing about English

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>>18999212
>You didn't say that it wasn't "real English."

Already addressed your point, I don't need to say everything literally. Work on your reading comprehension.

>>18999213
It doesn't represent a whole dialect. It's part of many different dialects.

>>18999219
I'm not, and I do. Your opinion of a nobody is irrelevant.

>>18999233
Good thing I never said it was nativelike. And one grammatical mistake doesn't mean anything.

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>>18999264
>Work on your reading comprehension.
You said: "Ghetto dialects aren't English. You can't define shit unless you're a professional." This indicates that you believe the fact that ghetto dialects are not English to be a literally true fact, that could be substantiated by a professional reference.

>Already addressed your point, I don't need to say everything literally.
What you've used to address my point has been nothing but backpedaling and lies.

[Anonymous No.]

todays nihongo word of the day is 敷衍

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>do manual labor from 8-4
>come home
>can't study anymore

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>>18999264
Sorry, you only know "English as foreign language", which isn't English.

[Anonymous No.]

What are some complaints that Japanese people have about English?

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>>18999280
No, those are two separate statements. The one backpedaling is you while arguing semantics, because you were called out on your poor reading comprehension.

>>18999299
Says you, which means nothing at all.

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>>18999299
Real English*

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>>18999300
ill answer this from the perspective of a japanese person: "fuck"

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>>18999304
>>18999299
If it's good enough to get me accepted into an American University or College, then it is real English.

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>>18999264
アンタの英語力はネイティブ程度以下ならこの文脈には英語は「知らない」
ネイティブに対して言語について喧嘩仕掛ける権利がアリマセン

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>>18999312
But plenty of college and uni students use that ghetto speak. Which isn't real English according to you.

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>>18999301
>No, those are two separate statements.
Right, let's look at your statement: "Ghetto dialects aren't English."

By itself, this an objectively incorrect fact, and the speaker is both wrong retarded. But wait! I was told that I shouldn't take words "out of context." Okay, let's look at the sentence in context. It's followed immediately by "You can't define shit unless you're a professional."

Oh wait, now they're two separate statements having nothing to do with each other. The context can't be used to analyze the statement! I guess we'll have to read the statement on its own merits, at which we're right back to page one, in which you said something both wrong and retarded.

>because you were called out on your poor reading comprehension.
The only person who has "called me out" has been the person desperately covering up his own lies.

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>>18999233
Where should it be? I'm not a part of the fight, just genuinely interested.

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この文を理解できない者は英語話者を名乗る資格はありません

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>>18999334
That sentence shouldn't have a comma.

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DJT - Daily English Thread

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>>18999321
It's not, and they don't get accepted on the account of using ghetto speak in their exams. They just do it on a casual level with their friends. I don't need to be explaining this to you, stop embarrassing yourself.

>>18999322
You should be able to understand the meaning behind that sentence, by the simple fact that I was clearly referencing American ghettos, ghetto being an English word by the way, which already establishes the fact that yes, this way of speaking is part of the English language, but not a real respectable form of speaking.

If you failed to understand that, then your reading comprehension is just poor.

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>>18999356
>>18999320

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>>18999346
You learn something every day. Thank you, based native.

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>>18999361
I'm actually ESL so get fucked.

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nujabes is literally turning over in his grave right now

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>>18999344
This only seems hard because it's both old and bad. It's bad because it uses adjectives as dressing words and adverbs as selective words, instead of the other way around, aka purple prose 101 and something that any decent writer needs to avoid.

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>>18999366
Well, you're as retarded as a native.

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>>18999360
>>18998351

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>>18999384
>>18999320

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>>18999371
Glad to hear that he's dead.

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>>18998182
>>18998182

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>>18999391
>>18999391

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>>18999385
>>18999384

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>>18999374
おまえごときにはわかるはずもないなｗ

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>>18999356
>It's not, and they don't get accepted on the account of using ghetto speak in their exams.
Students do in fact this and get accepted to American universities.

>If you failed to understand that,
I understand the theory you're pushing. It just happens to be a lie: you've now upped the number of words that simply were not there to two: "real" AND "respectable."

"G'day cunt" is not a real respectable form of speaking, but if I were to say it's "not English", I would called by a retard by everyone. You said something retarded. Maybe you didn't MEAN something retarded, but what you said was retarded. Own your retarded statement.

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>>18999402
No, it's perfectly easy to understand, you just have to rewrite it in your head when you read it because it's bad writing.

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>>18999399
>>18999399

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>>18999406
では言い換えて説明してみてはいかがかしら

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>>18999403
>Students do in fact this

No they, don't. You can't write an essay in ghetto speak and get a good grade. Stop lying to yourself.

>I understand the theory you're pushing

Good, work on your reading comprehension now.

>"G'day cunt" is not a real respectable form of speaking, but if I were to say it's "not English" I would called by a retard by everyone

This type of argument is what people call sophism. Basically a non argument.

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G'day cunt-tachis

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ESL-Kun post vocaroo clips, come on.

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>>18999434
You first.

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>>18999434
if you bring up vocaroo again im really gonna have to record something

[Anonymous No.]

People underestimate how average the stupid person is because they wrongly assume that the average person in their locale represents the average person nation-wide, when in reality smart people tend to live in areas or hang around people who are smarter than average. The reality is, if you're actually of average intelligence then you cannot learn Japanese unless you're extremely motivated. I'm sorry.

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>>18999441
But i asked first

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>と思います

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>>18999451
But I'm shy.

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>>18999415
Buck Mulligan, fat and formal, came from the landing, holding a bowl with a mirror and razor laid across it in a cross. A yellow dressing gown waved behind him in a gust. He held up the bowl and recited:

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>>18999456
またかよ

[Anonymous No.]

2 hours into this shit this is me right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahngjp5H8Is

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>>18999423
>No they, don't. You can't write an essay in ghetto speak and get a good grade. Stop lying to yourself.
You don't need exceptionally high grades to get into University. Students do submit essays dotted with slang, eat the hit, and get into university anyway.

>Good, work on your reading comprehension now.
Reinterpreting your retarded statement as a not-so-retarded statement is not "reading comprehension."

>This type of argument is what people call sophism. Basically a non argument.
The entirety of what you have been saying up until has been non-arguments designed to illustrate that you didn't mean what you actually said. Every single one of them has required the adding of words that weren't actually there.

In any other context even you would yourself would agree the statement was retarded. But in YOUR CASE, because you know what you really meant in your heart of hearts, it's everyone else's fault that they interpreted your wrong and retarded statement as a wrong and retarded statement.

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>>18999449
>The reality is, if you're actually of average intelligence then you cannot learn Japanese unless you're extremely motivated. I'm sorry.
there is no need to be sorry
through dick, unity

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dab on dem haters https://youtu.be/FxY5o-67Mrg?t=120

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>っつーべ

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>>18999461
これからもずっと

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>>18999459
ふむふむ
それで

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>>18999465
its not a proper dab if youre actually just wiping hanakuso on your pit

[Anonymous No.]

let's be real more than half of the sentiments in joyce's writing are nonsense and people who take his writing seriously instead of as what a spoiled little kid spits out acting out are cops

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>>18999467
Sorry, that's not real Japanese.

Please proceed to your nearest passport office and prepare to have your citizenship stripped.

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>>18999479
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%81%B9%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

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>>18999479
It's dialect-trying-to-integrate-tokyo-slang for というべき/というはずだ/というものよ.

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>>18999463
>Students do submit essays dotted with slang, eat the hit, and get into university anyway.

I don't believe this at all.

>Reinterpreting your retarded statement as a not-so-retarded statement is not "reading comprehension."

You failing to comprehend a simple statement after reading it is reading comprehension. Or a bad example of it.

> to illustrate that you didn't mean what you actually said

But I did mean what I actually said. You're the one that interpreted it wrong. I added words because you were having trouble comprehending.

The statement is not retarded at all. It's perfectly fine to say "Get out of my face, you're not speaking English" to someone that's chimping around saying stupid shit, as I've personally seen a lot of natives do.

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>>18999483
>client=firefox-b-1
Good job on getting yourself doxxed, kid.

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>>18999491
There are shittons of people that use firefox beta.

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>>18999483
>9 results and none of them are 1=1 correlation to the searched keywords
wow!

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>>18999495
>「記録より記憶」っつーべ？
>「おみおつけ」っつーべ？
>「地獄のギャロップ」っつーべ(笑)
>「しけえ」っつーべ。
>良薬は口さ苦しっつーべ？
Those are 1:1 matches.

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>>18999488
>I don't believe this at all.
Have you noticed that America is more liberal than it was 20 years ago? Have you heard of HBCUs, which existed even before that?

>I added words because
the words you originally used were wrong and retarded.

>It's perfectly fine to say "Get out of my face, you're not speaking English" to someone that's chimping around saying stupid shit, as I've personally seen a lot of natives do.
Did these people offer to have the statement referred for a professional determination as to whether the statement was English? Oh wait! That's "using context", and I'm not allowed to do that when it doesn't support your case. Sad.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zxeJX-7tyg#t=145

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>>18999516
>the words you originally used were wrong and retarded.

They weren't. It was a correctly written basic sentence.

As for you embarrassing second point, they didn't, because they're not speaking in ghetto talk. And you're allowed to use context, but you refuse to, which is why you've been going in circles, arguing semantics, because you're losing the argument.

Bottom line is that I have a high score on my English language certificate, and there's nothing you can do about it, no matter how much you shitpost.

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>>18999495
http://www1.tmtv.ne.jp/~kadoya-sogo/ibaraki-ta.html suggests that っつーべ is a valid construction in archaic Ibaraki dialect.

So, if you ever find a time machine and are transported to Edo-period Ibaraki, you can impress the locals with your fluent mastery of the local dialect.

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>>18999539
I would like to credit my obsession with dialectology for being able to introduce っつーべ to you guys. Truly the most heartstopping Japanese.

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>>18999537
>It was a correctly written basic sentence.
"Hillary Clinton is the President" is also a correctly written basic sentence, but it's also a counterfactual and retarded statement.

>arguing semantics
I'm arguing semantics because you're a filthy backpedaling liar. In order to prove that someone is a liar, it is required to look at the words they used (oh no, SEMANTICS!) and whether they were truthful (which they were not). Which you are.

Whenever someone accuses the other side of "arguing semantics" it's because they want to ignore the meanings of the words they actually used in favor of something entirely invented.

>Bottom line is that I have a high score on my English language certificate
Sorry, that doesn't qualify you to speak English. Only "English as a foreign language," which isn't English.

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>>18999573
>"Hillary Clinton is the President" is also a correctly written basic sentence, but it's also a counterfactual and retarded statement.

Sophism.

>I'm arguing semantics because

Because your reading comprehension skills are piss poor, and your pride is too big for you to admit you've lost the argument.

>Sorry, that doesn't qualify you to speak English. Only "English as a foreign language," which isn't English.

The opinion of an irrelevant nobody, which means nothing.

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>>18999565
well arent you just the しゅわんか lol

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>>18999591
>Sophism.
It demonstrates that your assertion that you had assembled a "correctly written basic sentence" means fucking nothing. Shouting "sophism!!!" to avoid acknowledging the fact that the things you said are retarded is both transparent and pathetic.

>Because your reading comprehension skills are piss poor, and your pride is too big for you to admit you've lost the argument.
Reinterpreting your retarded statement as a not-so-retarded statement is not "reading comprehension."

>admit you've lost the argument.
Sorry, that would force me to accept that your objectively wrong and retarded statement was not objectively wrong and retarded, and I'm just not ready to do that.

>The opinion of an irrelevant nobody, which means nothing.
And your opinions?

[Anonymous No.]

2 and a half hours is a bit much can yall pipe that shit down now

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>>18999613
Why are you still arguing with ESL-Kun? Can't you tell it's pointless, he literally can't admit to being wrong about reading the original post incorrectly and blames others for his mistakes. You're not getting anywhere.

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>>18999623
>reading the original post incorrectly
sounds like a reading comprehension problem

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>>18999613
>It demonstrates

It demonstrates a non argument, and something that has nothing to do with what I said at all.

>Reinterpreting your retarded statement as a not-so-retarded statement is not "reading comprehension."

You failing to comprehend something after reading it is.

>our objectively wrong and retarded statement

The irrelevant opinion of someone that misunderstood something, because of his poor reading comprehension.

>And your opinions?

Me stating a fact that I have a certificate is not an opinion. It's a fact. And the fact is that you can't do anything about it, but shitpost more.

[Anonymous No.]

Post more dialectal sentence enders with healing powers please.

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です

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>>18999623
>pointless

Because you were proven wrong and bitched out of the conversation. Yes it's pointless to argue when you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

desu senpai

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>>18999618
Seconded, why do you guys care this fucking much? Obviously neither of you guys are convincing the other of shit, and nobody else besides you two is being fucking impressed by your ability to argue on 4chan either.

もう日本語の話しようよ。

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>>18999642
I'd much rather focus on improving my actual Japanese to contribute to you shitting up the thread. I expected the other Anon to listen to me. I never had any hopes of getting through your Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Anonymous No.]

next time you wanna say sempai just say paisen

its way cooler

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>>18999656
>you shitting up the thread

It was you that came talking shit to me for no reason, got btfo'd after shitposting, then pussied out.

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>>18999664
Keep wasting your time. I don't know why you care so much when you were wrong then and you're wrong now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999674
I wasn't, I'm not now, you have no arguments, got btfo'd and pussied out.

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>>18999678

[Anonymous No.]

oh my fuckin god

fuck man todays actual nihongo word of the day is actually 2 words 飛び出し注意

check back when the hiv this threads given me turns into fullblown ass aids for the next nihongo word of the day

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>>18999686
>gets called on having no arguments
>goes and downloads a brainlet wojac

Talk about a sore loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999686
Dumb wojakposter get out.

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>>18999631
>It demonstrates a non argument, and something that has nothing to do with what I said at all.
You said: "It was a correctly written basic sentence." Why did you think this was relevant?

>You failing to comprehend something after reading it is.
I comprehended the sentence you wrote. It was retarded.

You claim that your interpretation is the natural one, but it is a forced and retarded one not supported by your own words.

>Me stating a fact that I have a certificate is not an opinion.
Does having your certificate mean that you're not an "irrelevant nobody"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999696
you can't close your eyes and run away

[Anonymous No.]

I think you guys know english, can you shut the fuck up now :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999706
>Why did you think this was relevant?

Because it was, and you said it was somehow wrong, which it wasn't.

>I comprehended the sentence you wrote

If you did, you wouldn't have shitposted thus far for no reason.

>Does having your certificate mean that you're not an "irrelevant nobody"?

It means that you're wrong in saying I don't know or speak English, because I clearly do.

[Anonymous No.]

im not convinced can you show me some credentials that you know english

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>>18999713
Which is what you did actually, and now you're embarrassing yourself further with named reaction images and wojaks.

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>>18999716
>Because it was, and you said it was somehow wrong, which it wasn't.
i don't think you get it, the statement "1 plus 1 equals 3" is a perfectly correctly written sentence yet still completely wrong. you need more hand holding cause of your shitty reading comprehension? i'm glad to offer help.

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>>18999717
I can show you my mark book from high school.

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>>18999716
>Because it was, and you said it was somehow wrong, which it wasn't.
If you knew English, you'd know that "the words you originally used were wrong and retarded" was not a reference to the grammatical construction of your sentence. Which you don't.

>If you did, you wouldn't have shitposted thus far for no reason.
I'm interested in seeing in how long you can keep up your defense of your own objectively retarded claims.

>It means that you're wrong in saying I don't know or speak English, because I clearly do.
Please answer the question.

[Anonymous No.]

the word of the day is っつーべ please enjoy

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>>18999730
>"1 plus 1 equals 3" is a perfectly correctly written sentence yet still completely wrong

Third use of sophism by you. My statement wasn't wrong. It's just your poor reading comprehension.

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>>18999731
no im gonna need some kind of standardized test scores

preferably one where the tests official title is a 5 letter acronym

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999744
I scored a perfect 800 on the reading portion of the SAT when I was in high school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999744
I don't know English.

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>>18999741
>「ほんとは誰に送るつもりだったのかとかは特に気にしないタイプなんすよ俺」

>イラコン参加間に合った！
>というわけで今時っぽいラッキーなスケベを考えてみた
>けど描いててこれは果たしてラッキーなのかなんなのかよくわからない気が…
>いやでもタナボタでシコネタゲットできたんだしラッキーでいいよね！！

>それはそうと首掛けヘッドフォンが似合うゲーマーロリってすごくいいとおもう

>ふぇりちゃんは撮って送って反応見るのは好きだけど
>それ以上とかセックスとかには全然興味無いタイプのインターネットロリビッチです
>ロリコンなら相手は男性でも女性でもいいそうです

I think I have a new fetish.

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>>18999742
>third use
but i'm not the same person you were talking to before. i just jumped in to call you retarded after watching this for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999741
Post that image please

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999742
Even if you were right about this - which you are not - your "it was a correctly written basic sentence" assertion was completely irrelevant to the point being disputed.

You only made it because your English comprehension is poor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999754
>>18998351

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>>18999752
how the fuck did you end up in this hell hole

>>18999754
its ok dude no problem

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>>18999737
>the words you originally used were wrong and retarded

They weren't. And I do know English, I have a certificate. Another L for you.

>your own objectively retarded claims

I made no retarded claim. You on the other hand claimed ghetto talk gets you accepted into universities.

>Please answer the question.

Your question is irrelevant to the discussion.

>>18999756
You're still wrong then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999764
saucenow works on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999770
you don't know english

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999766
>completely irrelevant to the point being disputed

It wasn't, just your English comprehension being poor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999770
look man if you can only understand formally written english then you have a broken circumstancial understanding of the language and therefore don't really know it. stop fighting it and just accept it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999776
I do, your opinion of a nobody means nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cte_lnNIB5E

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999770
>You on the other hand claimed ghetto talk gets you accepted into universities.
An objectively true statement. I regret to inform you that American universities are not particularly hard to get into.

>Your question is irrelevant to the discussion.
I will take this as an admission that you yourself as are an irrelevant nobody whose opinions on the English language is completely relevant.

>>18999778
Anyone who believes that "it was a correctly written basic sentence" is a relevant response to "the words you originally used were wrong and retarded" does not know English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999786
this post you just wrote doesn't mean anything, good job

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999795
>an irrelevant nobody whose opinions on the English language is completely relevant.
you forgot to mention ESL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999795
yourself are*
are completely irrelevant*

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999807
nobody cares about typos

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think I've witnessed a djt hitting bump limit this fast.

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>>18999785
>if you can only understand formally written english

Doesn't apply to me. Applies to the guy arguing semantics, because he lost the argument.

>An objectively true statement.

Post proof, because that is a ridiculous statement.

>does not know English

You're not a qualified professional, so your opinion on who does and does not know English means nothing.

>>18999796
It means that you're wrong, and you lost the argument. Good job.

[Anonymous No.]

when was the last time we had a good one of these anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999820
i'm not even a part of this argument lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999813
This is the true of power of extreme faggotry

pic related @ you guys who have been arguing for this long

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999820
all it means dude is you fuckin lost the game and your marbles

and were all laughing at you keep dancing for us muppet

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999820
how long are you gonna pretend you're "winning"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999825
pay upfront

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999825
>1000円
What do you expect me to do with this? Visit the dagashi store?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18999823
Then don't shitpost.

>>18999832
>projecting after being embarrassed this bad

Stay mad facebook tier poster.

>>18999833
>pretend

Nobody has been able to prove me wrong, so I'm clearly winning.

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>>18999845
you're the one shitposting lol

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>>18999845
>it was real in my mind!

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i really shouldnt have insulted all the gaijins who like shing02/nujabes/etc

i apologize i had no idea it would turn out this way

this is literally worse than the last time i insulted a radiohead fan

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>>18999850
I'm replying to people starting shit with me. I have the right to defend myself from shitposters. All of your posts thus far have been meaningless, I'm just defending myself.

>>18999853
No, in this thread.

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>>18999859
not your fault, blame the retard who can't read for shit.

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>>18999859
just

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Hi, is this the Japanese thread?

[Anonymous No.]

容易に勝つ

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勝ち抜く

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>>18999844
うん

ほたるのおっぱいでけーからそれでいいじゃんか？

On another note, does anyone here read novels (not light novels) in Japanese for practice? I wanted to read some things like Silence and Botchan for practice and was wondering how that went for anyone else.

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>>18999894
nah, sorry. this is the "arguing about english with an ESL retard" thread

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>pl-kun samefagging again

[Anonymous No.]

the best part was i dont even think he was esl

it was just part of his gimmick

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>>18999894
No, sorry. This is the shitposting while losing arguments thread.

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>>18999910
Light novels are just novels but if you mean non serialized fiction then I sure don't. Serialized fiction is much easier to digest and you get exposed to a wider range of styles in less time.

>>18999913
There's no samefagging going on right now, just like there was no samefagging going on here approximately a year ago the last time you pulled this shit.

>>18999918
Based on their writing style they're either ESL or too young to hold the views they have or know about TOEFL.

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>>18999930
>There's no samefagging going on right now

Except by Lowercase kisama.

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>>18999930
Man, I haven't even been here for an year. You're a severe chuuni case.

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I want to die. No honestly, I don’t think I can go on anymore. I just have no will to do anything. See you later it was fun

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>>18999944
Leave him alone, or he'll go on a shitposting rampage again.

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>>18999944
>an year
>>18998351

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>>18999948
no man dont ill play with you i cant play with you if youre dead lets play onii chan

[Anonymous No.]

"Lets discuss English instead of Japanese" /DJT/

[Anonymous No.]

How does one into learning 関西弁?

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>>18999820
>Post proof, because that is a ridiculous statement.
https://wac.colostate.edu/jbw/v4n1/wilson.pdf is an account of black freshmen struggling in freshmen composition classes because of their inability to master standard American English, which means:
1. they have been been speaking and writing in AAVE their whole lives, and
2. they somehow got into college.

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>>18999975
just fuckin hang out in osaka dude

with jin dogg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbk92w1kdgc

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>>18999975
Immerse yourself in Osaka. It's like trying to get a Newfie accent. You don't get that shit unless you hang out with Newfies a shit ton.

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Manga isn't reading.

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>>18999981
virus don't open

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>>18999999
you really wanted it huh

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Can someone help with me this sentence?

犬も見つからなければ、霊なんて影も形もく

Context - MC from Nanairo is trying to help this girl find her dog.

"If the dog could not be found, it's soul will cry"

Is that right?

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wait what if hes so autistic he argued intentionally with that guy just to run up that post counter for his epic get lol

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>>18999910
触りたいな... 万円に触らせるかなぁ

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>>18999999
So close and so far dude Nice Try

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>>19000024
fuck off you cringy retard

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>>19000023
this is an incomplete sentence and i don't mean in the Japanese way

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXDsvpnVEyw
ya'll need some mame in your lives.

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>>19000023
fuckin nanarin dude theres more than meets the eye

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>>19000008
>>19000027
18999999 and 19000000 have the same amount of digits though?

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>>19000040
whats ur issue

you wanna spend the next 3 hours gettin smoked im in the mood

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>>19000077
all you can smoke is nigger dick faggot lol

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>>19000077
>ur
>lol

go away underage shitposting autist

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>>19000087
you cant say the n word dude

>>19000093
youre shit posting

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>>18999998
>It's like trying to get a Newfie accent
I can't imagine anyone has ever actually wanted to do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>people stop giving lowercase attention
>he starts samefagging conversations with himself

Sayonara my nakama. I'm out.

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Hey guys, do you like learning Japanese?

I like learning Japanese.

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>>19000055
Ah, your right, I forgot to post the full version.

かなり遠くまで足を伸ばしてみたものの、残念ながらまた空振り犬も見つからなければ、霊なんて影も形もなく

Is the meaning close to something like:

"After walking a considerable amount, we needed to stretch our legs, but unfortunately, the dog has yet to be found. It's soul will cry out".

The last sentence kinda confuses me and it sounds weird to me. Help?

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>>19000149
Man, I can't even learn English.

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OP, bump limit reached. You might wanna delete this one and make a new thread.

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>>19000159
ops can't delete their own thread anymore

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>>19000137
youre on some shit dude if you think were all one person

>>19000149
do you then why are you here

>>19000155
you actually have no idea whats up with the dog do you

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>>19000167
Fuck me, since when?

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>>19000178
Well, story wise, as far as I understand, the MC is trying to help the girl find her dog because its part of his duty as a public servant.

But to be honest, I don't fully understand what I'm reading.

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>>19000195
forever ago

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>>19000204
It's dead, man.

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>>19000204
less word lookups more guesswork
i recommend rereading what you've read so far but forcing yourself to spend less than 20 seconds per line

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>>19000224
>>19000213

Oh, I feel stupid, but that sentence definitely makes more sense now. Although, I don't know how the MC knows the dog is dead.

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>>19000265
he has esp

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>>19000265
he's an esl

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>>19000155
I swear I mean this in the nicest way possible but you really should find something else to read.

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>>18999910
I mostly read non-light novels. They're not much more difficult than LNs as a rule and I enjoy them a lot more. There are difficult books (Silence is above average and Botchan is harder because it's old) but most are straightforward and would be OK even as a first read. If you want something easy try コンビニ人間 in the library. If you're going to read Soseki http://sosekiproject.org/ is helpful for getting used to the archaic Japanese. Also, if your first few books happen to be boring, don't give up, keep searching for an author you love and you'll find one eventually.

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>>19000130
You don't want to. You just do if you ever end up in Newfoundland. It's like a curse.

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>>19000265
good job dude

also its complicated dude and it involves fucking a lot of onis

also yeah youre not ready for nanarin dude

youre lost before its even begun

get on that unko chan tip

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>>19000265
he's a native english speaker

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>>19000155
It's a non-intuitive use of ば. Check out [9] (from HJGP)

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>>19000296
Why? Because its too difficult for me, or because the VN isn't that great?

>>19000320
I was told I should just start reading. Should I read something else then? What's easier than Nanairo but also interesting?

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>>19000359
dies irae
if you can get out of the prologue without dying it becomes moege

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>>19000359
doraemon

alternatively anything where youre not going "im not really understanding what im reading"

prolly not dies irae even though thats true

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Nanairo considered beginner in the guide anyways? Is it objectively easy and I'm just not ready yet?

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which guide

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>was gonna spend the night learning Japanese
>spent it all watching anime
>didn't learn shit

I want to die.

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>>19000438
watch anime without subs

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>>19000431
https://djtguide.neocities.org/reading%20list.html

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>>19000438
>>19000449
>spend the day learning japanese (watching anime)
>only thing I learned was that Mio is best girl
仕方がない

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>>19000449
That's retarded unless you have a certain level covered, which I don't have. I can only understand basic things that way, and miss on the plot and story.

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>>19000481
So rewatch something and get both listening practice and not feel like you missed out on something you wanted to understand the plot for.

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>>19000497
>rewatch something

My backlog is huge and rewatching is a waste of time.

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>>19000426
It's not the absolute easiest, but it's on the easier end of average. There are no VNs that aren't going to hurt you. It's OK. Just keep reading and you will start to enjoy the pain.

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>>19000500
>rewatching is a waste of time
Only if watch trash.

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>>19000500
Give up now, you're never gonna learn Japanese

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>>19000531
Ok, bye.

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>>19000500
this is the saddest shit ever this is what high speed internet has done to people

we live in a use once throw away media consumption world now

rewatching something good fuckin owns it all depends on your mood

though i guess in my experience the best rewatches are ones i didnt plan on

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>>19000546
What should I rewatch then?

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>>19000558
K-ON

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>>19000558
i dont know what youve watched dude

fuckin bubblegum crisis (not tokyo 2040)

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>>19000591
>>19000592
But we were talking about god anime.

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>>19000604
>god anime.
Maria Holic.
It's shit though.

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>>19000604
hey dude i threw you a bone since maybe you were asking for a rec to make your rewatch impromptu

fuck it dude

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>>19000558
Gochiusa
Yuru Yuri
etc

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>>19000604
Just pick whatever you already watched that was pretty entertaining that you liked, i did this with One Punch Man and rewatching something that has plenty of action is the best way to pay attention while listening to a language you don't understand.

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>>19000616
>>19000617
>>19000631
>>19000638
Guys, stop. I'm not rewatching anything, it's a waste of time. I was just curious to see what you think good anime is. Baited.

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>>19000654
i knew from the start dude but i still gave you my kindness

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>>19000691
You're actually the only one with a shit suggestion.

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>>19000700
yeah well your life is shit dude and sos your posting get fucked while i fuckin enjoy shit

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>>19000654
>it's a waste of time.
So is watching anime, so is learning Japanese, etc.
It's not supposed to be productive you fucking idiot, you do it for entertainment value.
Rewatching good anime is only a waste of time if:
A. You never enjoyed anime in the first place, or
B. You haven't watched enough anime to forget enough about anime you already saw to make it feel half new and entertaining again.

In any case, fuck off.

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>>19000723
You big mad.

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>>19000743
Not as much as you're retarded though.

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>>19000743
Want me to guess where you came from?

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hell

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>fall for the easy bait
>start fuming at the mouth

Daijobu?

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Die joe boo ja nigh yo

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? ive been in the game longer than youve been alive

rule #1 is your favourite anime sux

but its even worse that you dont even have one because they are all use once and throw away to you

its truly the saddest fate good fuckin luck man in everything

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Wow what a shit thread, the worst in a while so far. Thank you very much guys, this trend makes me feel less prone to read through the thread and waste precious study time. 心から感謝します。

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>>19000842
>rule #1 is your favourite anime sux
How is that relevant to oneself? Do you hate your favourite anime?

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>>19000654
I'm literally shaking right now. Rewatching a show for the purpose of learning Japanese is only a waste of time insofar as learning Japanese is a waste of time.

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>>19000866
no but as the rule states it sux

thats the reality for everyone

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>>19000875
It's the reality for everyone but oneself.
Otherwise you're implying that people hate their favourite anime, which is bollocks.
Pull out as many dumb rules out of your ass as you like, doesn't make you any less retarded.
If you want to do listing practice, go fucking rewatch some anime. That's the best way.
Now fuck off.

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>>19000915
just because something sux doesnt mean you dont like it it just means it sux and it sux because its your fave anime

this aint even got nothin to do with nihongo this is just a general rule for life as a anime boy

just fuckin accept it dude your favourite anime is proper rubbish mate

i accept it every day

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can we kill lowercase-kun by typing in lowercase for shitting the thread?

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>>18997576
Is the DJT library going to be updated soon?

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>>19000947
i wasnt involved in 3 hours of arguing about eigo you cant blame me for what other people did i wont fuckin accept that shit 絶対みっともないよ

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>>19000944
Imagine living like this.

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explain what the fuck なのに means

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>>19000985
you started that shit dont act all innocent now

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explain how the fuck to use jisho

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>>19000991
grounded based loving life and everything i do

pretty fuckin tops mate lol what you got

>>19001001
i mean that dude flipped out at me because his parents didnt get him hooked on phonics when he was a wee lad and he never learned how to read

it aint my fault and i apologized already anyway dude

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>>19001019
why would it mean what the dictionary says it does? they're all particles so why don't they come up with a fucking kanji for it

fucking nips are so retarded. I'm going to stop this and learn chinese instead. fuck you nigger

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>>19001041
lmao actually ワロタ

but you cant say the n word you fuckin dqn

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>>19001041
Get the general meaning from a dictionary and then feel the rest out by reading more you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

What definition of the word salt is being used in the expression "take it with a grain of salt"?

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>>19001143
salt as an ancient poison antidote

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>>19001143
nacl dude

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>>19001143
This isn't even really an English idiom, it's translated into English from Latin. Go ask the Romans.

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>>19001041
might as well. chinese grammar is ez and learning kanji helps. china is the world's foremost superpower so we should bow to our new overlords.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking for a Duolingo club to practice (N5+ level). I’d like to use this Duolingo feature to include casual conversations and small talk to my learning routine, but I’ve already been in several clubs with no real results. I’m not an elitist or anything, but I don’t like it when people change syllables (like writing 「さいおうなら」 instead of さようなら because “that's how it sounds”) or use bad rōmaji and get pissed off if you try to correct them, or even they correct you with their version of things. I’d like to join a club where no rōmaji is used, even if it’s above my level (trying to get to N4 by December). I can look by myself for the vocabulary I don’t know or try my best (at my capabilities) to keep the conversation flowing. Any Club Code or other suggestions will be appreciated! Thanks in advance.

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>>19001310
>like writing 「さいおうなら」 ... because “that's how it sounds”

What? But that's... that's not how it sounds. People do this?

I don't know what a "Duolingo club" is. Is it just a group of learners at a similar level? Is it themed discussion? You might be able to find more/better resources if you expand outside of duolingo.

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How many of you guys go to language exchanges to improve speaking ability?

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>>19001545
>production

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>>19001545
I go to DJT all the time.

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>>19001545
I go duolingo and get 30+ desperate christmas cakes to send me nudes.
簡単なこと

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>>19001535
危ない -> 危ねぇ

nips do this all the time in text. It honestly triggers me. I couldn't start reading manga until I hit 4000 words because manga has """natural""" language so they abbreviate
and such like normal people, because 90% of people can't write proper fucking language instead of "u feelin me mah nigga bruh littt?"

[Anonymous No.]

This Tae Kim website is overwhelming

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>>19001867
Fuck, meant hello talk, the duolingo reddit pasta distracted me.

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Is there any jap videos that are good for listening in the background while I practice hand writing kanji's? Mostly conversation videos.

I can put on some random anime episode but I don't think that will be helpful.

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>>19001870
Manga isn't reading though.

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>>19001885
>hand writing kanji's
Go somewhere that's not here.

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>>19001905
Writing it helps me a lot remembering it.

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>>19001870
I honestly never really had a problem with this, and I'm not sure why it bothers people so much. It's almost always completely obvious how the speech is getting slurred if you're not retarded.

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>>19001959
>i know 20k words why don't new readers know 20k words yet? their fault
you can't look up shit in a dictionary when the words don't exist

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>>19001904
fuck off retard

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>>19001917
It doesn't though.

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>>19001968
Did you ignore the part of my post where I said "never really"? I started reading with like maybe 1500 vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.]

>生物 - なまもの
>生物 - せいぶつ
This is peak Japanese.

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>>19001972
it does, for me at least.

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>>19001974
Don't expect intelligence from someone who responds to reddit posts and uses /pol/ quotes.

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>>19001991
Its not the writing part though.

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>アメリカのトランプ大統領は８日、前の大統領のオバマさんがした約束ではイランが核兵器を持つことを止めることはできないと言いました。
I can't seem to comprehend this sentence from this article: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10011431381000/k10011431381000.html
I can't figure out where the relative clauses extend, or something.
Can someone give me some hints or pointers? Google translate doesn't really help.

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>>19001990
No, THIS is peak Japanese:
>逝け面
>イケメン

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>>19002122
looks like you need to go back to the unko

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>>19002122
トランプ大統領はXと言いました。
X:(Yでは、)「イランが核兵器を持つこと」を止めることはできない
Y:オバマ前大統領がした約束

大体こんな感じです。

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>>19002206
ありがとうお兄ちゃん。