Touhou Gameplay Thread

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Touhou Gameplay Thread Anonymous Fri Apr 20 18:07:20 2018 No.18861983 [Reply] [Original]

Previous Thread: >>18723464

Guess someone has to make it. What's your least favorite game? Favorite? Who do you think is the easiest boss in the series, and who is the hardest?

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 19:04:59 2018 No.18862244

Favorite EoSD, Least favorite TD. Easiest: maybe Letty. Hardest: dunno, I'm normal player who only cleared 1 extra so far.

Currently Okuu's constantly kicking my ass and apparently there is no other way to beat her beyond getting good. Her spells are really demanding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 20:35:08 2018 No.18862605 >>18861983 >least favorite game PoDD >favorite game SA >easiest boss Tank thing in SoEW stage 1. It's a <30 second fight on any difficulty, any shot. >hardest boss Ignoring Phantasmagoria stage 9s, probably Junko.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 21:03:55 2018 No.18862746 >>18862605 those favorites... i might be your evil twin. tengu's macroburst is fun as hell though.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 21:20:03 2018 No.18862829

>>18862605
>PoDD
Funny you mention it. I just played it on a whim and got all the way to Yumemi's last half of a heart, second time playing it. I'm not sure if I've been more mad at a touhou game before.

Also I guess my least favorite would be PoFV, favorite is HSiFS, Easiest boss is probably Orange and the hardest is probably either Junko or Clownpiece.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 00:47:57 2018 No.18863803 >>18861983 >least favorite game MoF >favorite game EoSD >easiest boss Stage 1 midboss of LLS, if that doesn't count then orange >hardest boss Junko or okina spring/summer

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 09:55:03 2018 No.18865589 Can somebody explain to me how Orin's final spellcard works? "Rekindling of Dead Ashes". Do the fairies simply explode into those large red bullets after a certain amount of time or does something else trigger it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 10:11:01 2018 No.18865642 Least fav: DDC Fav: EoSD Easiest: Waggysaggy Hardest: Clownpiece

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 10:48:36 2018 No.18865795 Favorite game : IN Last favorite game : TD Easiest boss : wakasagihime Hardest boss : Junko

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 15:40:43 2018 No.18867331

>>18861983
IN is the best, DDC is the worst.
I don't play pc-98 so from the windows series it's probably got to be Rumia for the easiest boss.
For hardest it depends on what you mean by hardest as I think cancer rng Remilia is always gonna take that prize since 3/5 of her cards then become basically impossible.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 16:48:58 2018 No.18867717
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And I thought about restarting after dying on stage 2. And fucked up on Miko's yellow balls spellcard, god I fucking hate it because they have full hitbox unlike any other big bullets.
First TD normal 1cc it is, though it felt pretty easy and only Miko gave me much trouble.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:08:45 2018 No.18867852

>>18861983
>least favorite game
HRtP. I just can't enjoy it at all (but the atmosphere is really cool and unique).
>Favorite
PCB. Best music and best gameplay. I also like how it's fairly generous with resources without going completely overboard like some of the more recent games have.
>easiest boss
Orange. I don't think I've ever messed up against her except on lunatic mode.
>hardest
Yumemi. There's no other boss in the series whose attacks just scream "fuck you" like hers do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 21:23:40 2018 No.18869458 File: 182 KB, 625x575, 603DD0DB-F8CD-4427-AFD9-B2B771A51151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GOdfVAdFsGs [Open] This is Len’en, right? Where can I download it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:01:41 2018 No.18869661 >>18865589 Will try to help and give advice in 1-2 days, irl, headaches/possible brain damage, and a wrist injury sucks. I also don't play SA so my advice could not be the best, and perhaps looking at other people's replays could help.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:04:00 2018 No.18869669

Are you supposed to play it on full-screen?
I've only played EoSD a little bit, maybe like 30-40 games overall.
Just played a little bit of a run in full-screen mode instead of windowed and it was a lot easier.
Is that what you're supposed to do or is it considered making it easy?

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:04:31 2018 No.18869675

>>18865589
Will try to help and give advice in 1-2 days if no one else helps, irl, headaches/possible brain damage, and a wrist injury suck. I also don't play SA so my advice could not be the best, and perhaps looking at other people's replays could help.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:31:31 2018 No.18869795
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>>18865589
I assume you're playing normal.
Fairies follow you around and are killable. Red bubbles are shot after a time delay, yes. The idea is to misdirect them to the bottom at the beginning, then going up and around back to the bottom. Works with ReimuA on all difficulties. There's better routes for other shots but I'm not too familiar with them.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 23:32:16 2018 No.18870120

>>18869669
it sounds like you don't have the vsync patch. get it and play at whatever resolution you want (ideally an integer multiple of 640x480). ensure the exe is named 東方紅魔郷.exe
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Vsync_Patches
changing the resolution of any video game has never been cheating, if that's what you're asking. windows toho games have a fullscreen option anyway, and later games have multiple resolution options, so it's clear that the given resolutions were simply made for monitor resolutions of the time, not because people were always expected to use 640x480 or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 23:33:28 2018 No.18870127 >>18870120 >ensure the exe the game exe that is. probably th06.exe (or th06e.exe with the english patch)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 23:52:34 2018 No.18870214 >>18870120 >>18870127 I see. Thanks anon, this was helpful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 23:57:31 2018 No.18870233 >>18870120 It crashes for me if I try anything other than the english patch. Is there a way to use vpatch through the translation patch? I know you can for the later games, but i don't see a folder for the translation patch in 6.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 00:12:51 2018 No.18870293

>>18870233
yes, you can use either. the problem is probably the locale (see help-it-isnt-working.txt in the vsync patch folders) - i forgot to mention that for eosd you need to either set your system locale to japanese or get a locale emulator (like applocale for windows).

the microsoft link for applocale is dead. you can grab it from whetever site looks most reputable to you. i've also uploaded it here https://anonfile.com/64z6i2eaba/ and can attest that it works since i've used it, but i won't blame you for thinking it's too sketchy to dl and run something from a random anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 00:23:53 2018 No.18870358 >>18870233 i guess this is different if you're using thcrap rather than the old english patch. i've only ever used the old one. https://www.thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Download#Running_on_top_of_vpatch

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 03:11:03 2018 No.18871163

>>18870293
I have my system set to japanese for Touhou Puppet Dance Performance, and found the english patch for EoSD works now. It's just the normal one doesn't

>>18870358
Well that's what I'm saying, I don't see the thcrap in my folder, so I guess it's the old one. I didn't realize there were other translation patches.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 09:24:03 2018 No.18872576 >>18869795 Thanks, this is going to get me better capture rate than dodging blindly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 13:28:31 2018 No.18873953 Is there touhou for linux ? I want to leave windows for good

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:52:46 2018 No.18874378

how do I deal with murasa's survival spell? it's literal miko's double slut spell, but it's actually hard as she teleports right on top of you. do I have to memorize some optimal route for it?

>>18873953
use wine, it does a great job at it. though I had 80 fps in eosd, which still didn't stop me from 1ccing it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 16:32:16 2018 No.18874874 >>18874378 Circle around the screen and have her spawn in the corners. If you can give me a difficulty I can make a webm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 16:50:58 2018 No.18874975 >>18874874 Normal, thank you in advance. I usually end up ramming into bullets while circlestrafing as 45s is too much.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 17:22:18 2018 No.18875150

>>18874378
>>18874975
Try to deal with every wave asap, giving yourself time to prepare for the next one. If you are able to position yourself nicely, so that the waves go at you vertically or horizontally, do so, it makes it really simple to bypass (45 degrees or so is good too, you get the idea). And as the other anon said, circle arround the screen, move a lot from one corner to another, the further she is from the centre the better.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 17:29:03 2018 No.18875192
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>>18874975
Hmm. Now that I play around with it on normal, I actually can't find a really good rhythm that always works, unlike lunatic. The general idea is still the same though. Try to get her to shoot only in corners if you can, move as soon as she spawns on each wave, be comfortable with moving unfocused so you can get to corners quickly, try to get in a position where dodging a wave is just one straight horizontal/vertical motion (not perfectly demonstrated here), and if all else fails just drop a bomb and stand still for a while. It's also nice to remember that her ghost doesn't have a hitbox so you can run through her right after she spawns with no issue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 19:00:43 2018 No.18875774 Finally managed to beat my last holdout in Lunatic, UFO. Boy, what a fucking game, it's hard as shit with a dumb fuckin' gimmick but it's still unexplicably really

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 19:10:50 2018 No.18875850 >>18875774 inexplicably really...? what? fun?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 19:26:47 2018 No.18875961 >>18875774 >>18875850 We'll never know... But congratz anyway! To be honest, UFO gimmick is the best of all meme resource systems.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 19:47:27 2018 No.18876070 >>18875774 Another one killed by Shou before the end, huh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 19:54:02 2018 No.18876115 File: 698 KB, 640x480, double ko!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18876070 probably more like pic related

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 20:01:31 2018 No.18876156
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>>18861983
>What's your least favorite game? Favorite?
Pic related

>Who do you think is the easiest boss in the series
It's hard to say, and I'd feel kind of cheesy for mentioning a midboss. I guess Rika, as others have said.

>who is the hardest?
Not counting LoLK, I guess it'd be Okina, or Shou maybe? Honestly, I'm not sure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 20:05:35 2018 No.18876178 File: 1.03 MB, 3840x986, triple the fun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18875774 >>18876115 Grats dude. LFS is my personal nightmare too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 20:10:37 2018 No.18876200 pofv higher than podd, and by that margin... pass me some of whatever you're toking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 20:44:54 2018 No.18876405 >>18876156 picture is so stupid i'm flabbergasted

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 22:23:14 2018 No.18876936 >>18876156 These are some of the worst opinions I've had the displeasure of reading. I don't know if you did this on purpose but it's really impressing.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 22:31:37 2018 No.18876988

>>18876200
PoFV knows what it wants to be, and the mechanics compliment that.
PoDD is a mess of ideas that have almost no cohesion, that's somehow easier to beat pacifist than it is to beat legitimately.

>>18876405
>>18876936
Well, you could explain why you think the opinions are wrong.
Or you could just continue to shitpost.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 22:44:14 2018 No.18877056

>>18876988
regarding pofv: https://pastebin.com/eefa8nHv

expound on podd's "mess of ideas" and how it has more faults than pofv's as noted in that pastebin.
playing for score has always been harder than playing for survival. podd allows you to customize the difficulty on the fly to your liking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 22:45:37 2018 No.18877062 >>18877056 *and how podd has more faults than pofv,

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 22:54:22 2018 No.18877109

>>18876988
>Well, you could explain why you think the opinions are wrong.
That's a fruitless endeavor when talking to someone who unironically thinks PoFV is a good game.
If you think well-structured, well-made games like UFO and TD are worse than the shower of RNGshit that does whatever and you could beat by not learning the game but banging your head against the wall until the game becomes randomly piss-easy then there's no hope for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:03:12 2018 No.18877141 >>18877109 oh great, more stupid opinions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:04:15 2018 No.18877148 >>18877141 can't you go back to shitting up /v/ MaZe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:05:28 2018 No.18877153 >>18877148 lol ok? i must be some random person because... reasons?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:07:54 2018 No.18877173 stop the shitflinging my wee bairns

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:40:09 2018 No.18877385

>>18877056
None of this is new to me, and those are mostly just quirks. Some bad, but not all.
Further, some of the suggested changes are awful, such as eliminating declare freeze and delay on charge.

None of that really relates to why PoFV superior to PoDD, which comes down to the central mechanics. The utilization of scope, the changes to spirits, spell cards, and the general decrease in bullet speed and increase in explosion radius make the game very bullet bouncing heavy, which works perfectly for a game series that's known for, you know, dense patterns. PoDD is stuck in this weird place where it really wants to be TSS, but it ends up feeling slower and less precise than TSS. It really hurts as well that, unlike TSS or PoFV, there are no built in mechanics to punish turtling, which means that a player can just sort of wait around to completely reset the game state, and there's not really anything you can do about it.

As well, I'm not sure why you'd mention survival or score. PoDD and PoFV are multiplayer games, which is the highest metric by which they should be judged. The fact that PoFV actually has native netplay just gives it another boost over its older counterpart. Though, even if it didn't, the mechanics of PoFV lend themselves more to a skill based, competitive game, while PoDD is frankly rng heavy for both players.

>>18877109
>well-made games like UFO and TD
Laying on the bait a bit thick anon.
>shower of RNGshit
Bet I could consistently beat you at PoFV.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:46:53 2018 No.18877440

>>18877056
Actually, reading even more of the suggested changes, it's hilarious how little this person seems to understand PoFV. The suggested Medicine rework is especially egregious, as Medicine isn't even typically considered "top tier" in competitive play.
Further, I'm not even sure if this individual is aware of the i-frames on Level 1s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:58:56 2018 No.18877512 i just beat IN Extra Stage with Youmu/Yuyuko. I'm not good at Touhou but I feel very accomplished

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 23:59:55 2018 No.18877522 >>18877512 Good job anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:01:40 2018 No.18877527 >>18877512 You're a step closer to being good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:01:42 2018 No.18877528 >>18877522 Thansk

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:04:01 2018 No.18877544 >>18877527 I sure hope so

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:05:20 2018 No.18877548 >>18877544 Remember, ZUN gives you permission to put "Good at Danmaku games" on your resume if you beat MoF Hard. So if you beat that, no one can tell you you're bad.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:47:25 2018 No.18877729
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In terms of final boss fights (stage 6) ONLY (hard difficulty cause I suck ass) in terms of enjoyment/fun (subjectively).

1 Utsuho
2 Byakuren
2.5 Reimu (Concealed the Conclusion)
3 Sukuna
4 Eirin
4.5 Iesua Nazarenus (The Last Comer)
5 Junko
6 Shikieiki
7 Kanako
8 Okina
9 Remilia
10 Yuyuko
11 Taoist bitch

TLC and CTC are the only fangames I've played that are danmaku based. So this is my shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:48:35 2018 No.18877732 >>18877729 Taoism > Buddhism

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 00:50:37 2018 No.18877739 >>18877732 I would like it more if Ten Desires wasn't so fucking boring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 01:06:38 2018 No.18877775 >>18877729 >(hard difficulty cause I suck ass When will this meme that you have to be in the top ten to be even passable at the game die?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 01:08:20 2018 No.18877779 >>18877729 The fact that you put TLC above anything shows that you have shit taste, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 01:26:13 2018 No.18877838 >>18877779 Iesua's music is pretty great. And the fight itself is challenging without being bullshit or frustrating. The rest of the game may not be brilliant. But loli Jesus is pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:24:16 2018 No.18878258 >>18876156 this is at the very least better than average taste for /jp/ standards. Swap UFO and DDC and its mostly cool then.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 06:48:56 2018 No.18878927

>>18876156
I love SA and PoFV as well, but come on, they both have terribly unbalanced shots and PoFV is very random in terms of boss battles. And PCB's shots are not very balanced either, plus its border system can be abused. And by your definition SA should belong in the lowest tier as you can literally bomb away so that midbosses won't spawn, lmao.

>DDC
>highgrade
lol

MoF is amazing, if it lacks graze counter it doesn't mean it's a bad game. UFO has great music and good boss battles as well, its resource system is more fun than TD's and DDC's as well.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 07:18:38 2018 No.18879059

>>18876156
I feel like I would like PoFV in multiplayer, but I'd first need to be better at touhou overall. Single player is too rng based though, it's not really enjoyable to play when you know that game basically cheats. Unless it doesn't, I dunno. That's a rather big flaw nonetheless.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 09:35:10 2018 No.18880014

But PoFV can be made consistent. Score at least 50m (preferably at least 70m), save at least 2 lives for the yama (which means you can afford 3 deaths across stages 6, 7, and 8, usually one each), and you should have an okay shot of winning on any character. Sure the skill floor is a bit higher than other games but it's still pretty doable once you know what you're doing.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 09:35:20 2018 No.18880015

>>18878927
>And by your definition SA should belong in the lowest tier as you can literally bomb away so that midbosses won't spawn, lmao.
Bugs =/= bad, especially situational ones which hardly affect a typical run and require a specific shot.
Besides, I wouldn't call any of SA's shots bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 09:37:50 2018 No.18880031 >>18880014 Shhh, don't rock the boat. Failing in PoFV can't be their fault, after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 11:09:04 2018 No.18880703 >>18880031 Why are you talking shit about others' skill in a reasonable discussion about a game you blindly love and pray to before every meal you eat?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 11:26:00 2018 No.18880836 >>18880703 Not him, but I'm personally tired of seeing "RNG bullshit" being brought up as a negative for plain PoFV survival when it's really just a case of simple resource management and using your fucking level 2's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 11:54:34 2018 No.18881063 >>18880703 You sound really defensive, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 12:25:01 2018 No.18881268 I still can't believe how hard Junko is and yet, she has one of the easiest, if not the easiest survival card in Touhou.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 13:14:29 2018 No.18881618

>>18877385
>Laying on the bait a bit thick anon.
As said by someone who thinks PoFV is a good game. Go back to the game randomly making it easy for you and your tiny brain mistaking it for your skill increasing.
>Bet I could consistently beat you at PoFV.
Implying I'd touch that shit again just to prove a point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 13:16:01 2018 No.18881627 File: 30 KB, 132x335, 1524351378149.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18880014 >get a lot of resources and you can outlast the final boss You can do that in any game you fucking cretin. What the hell is wrong with PoFVfaggots?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 13:44:30 2018 No.18881848 >>18881627 >You can do that in any game you fucking cretin. Exactly, so what's the fucking problem? On what basis are you complaining about PoFV's RNG when it's the same methodology in every single game, as you've said?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 13:53:47 2018 No.18881908 >>18881848 Usually it's not a requirement. You still can win even if you enter stage 6 with no lives, no bombs, nothing. Dying does not make the fight easier.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 13:56:31 2018 No.18881929

>>18881908
>dying does not make the fight easier.
I thought dying/bombing resets the spellcard? usually as the spellcard goes on for longer and longer either the pattern becomes quicker or denser and dying resets the intensity to the beginning of the card.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 14:00:32 2018 No.18881978 >>18881929 I actually dunno. Still, if so, it's a spellcard thing, not the whole fight.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 14:29:15 2018 No.18882200

>>18881908
Then it's just difficult, not inconsistent. And you technically could still win without dying, it's just nearly impossible without Aya/Medicine. Dying makes the round easier in the same way that bombing a spell/shotgunning after a death makes a regular boss fight easier. You're using the resources that you gathered to get past hard parts of the game. It's the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 14:29:18 2018 No.18882201 >>18876988 >SA has no major flaws It's the most unbalanced game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 14:36:16 2018 No.18882236 >>18882201 ReimuA shitters from SA are almost as hilarious as borderbabies

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:07:20 2018 No.18882438

>>18881848
>Exactly, so what's the fucking problem?
How the hell is it good design when the best way to beat the final boss is "just grab a lot of resources and hope the best lmaokek"? In other, better games you COULD do that shit but you'd be better off learning the game's method to its madness. Which PoFV doesn't have, it's just randomly vomiting random bullets in random patterns that randomly cage you in and you can't do a random thing about it. Oh, you randomly won? Thank the RNG for randomly allowing you to.
>b-but git gud!!!
How about you also git gud at the lottery, asshole? Then we can talk about the """skill""" in randomness.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:11:46 2018 No.18882455
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>>18882438
If PoFV were completely rng, then you wouldn't see such consistent results in netplay and survival runs.
The only type of run where rng really makes or breaks you is a score run, but that would be like doing a score run of a Fighting game, you're kind of missing the point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:12:15 2018 No.18882458 >>18882438 stop embarrassing yourself. it's just disgusting to see such a confident display of idiocy.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:28:02 2018 No.18882554

>>18882438
But I can 1cc lunatic almost every time on middle tier shots and above and about half the time on even the shit tier shots, and I'm by no means some kind of expert.
>method to its madness. Which PoFV doesn't have
Except it does, and I've already outlined them above. If you can follow those fairly simple rules you should see consistent results. Whether or not your skill allows you to do so is another question.
>random patterns that randomly cage you in and you can't do a random thing about it
Level 2 spells and above can cancel bullets, anon. I'm starting to wonder if you've even read the manual.
>Oh, you randomly won? Thank the RNG for randomly allowing you to.
Again, with decent play, you can consistently win after 2-3 deaths on Eiki and 1 death on stages 6, 7 and 8. Is the system perfect? Of course not. But it's not random.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:43:14 2018 No.18882655

>>18882455
>consistent
What a joke.
>>18882458
Thanks for input, you really added a lot to this conversation.

>>18882554
>skill
You keep using that word. I don't think you understand what it means.
You really need to lay down the PoFVshit and play the main games already. Skill is the understanding of the rules, the mechanics and the objectives and the degree of your ability to overcome obstacles. Randomness takes away about half that equation.
If I were to play Byakuren's Superhuman spell, that'd take skill, because you have the information on how it roughly goes down, how you handle your character and what you have to do to win, and it becomes about you connecting these dots to form a sound strategy that you can follow.
PoFV is a game of luck. You luck out until you win. And luck isn't a skill, it's not something you can train to get better at it. If you're an inherently unlucky person then you're never going to beat the game. Does that sound like a good game to you?

>b-but you can erase bullets!!!
Look at the absolute lack of understanding you're displaying here, this is what I'm talking about. You know, you can erase bullets in the other games with your bombs too! You're just never absolutely required to because the games hates your face. If it gets to that point in, say, PCB, then you messed up somewhere. You totally have the ability to go back, look at what you did wrong and learn not to do it again. If it gets to that point in PoFV then you have your shit luck to thank for it, and to thank for it when it happens again.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:54:29 2018 No.18882754

>>18882655
>You know, you can erase bullets in the other games with your bombs too! You're just never absolutely required to because the games hates your face
What? So you concede that it's consistently beatable but you're still upset because it's not a game that can be NMNB'd? THAT's your gripe with the game? God fucking damn why did I even try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:21:07 2018 No.18882966 >>18882754 So you concede that sometimes you have to waste your precious resources through no fault of your own. In a danmaku game. God fucking damn why did I even try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:33:21 2018 No.18883027 So why is this shitposter so obsessed with PoFV?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:38:22 2018 No.18883052 >>18883027 >shitposter Ran out of arguments already?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:39:21 2018 No.18883058 >>18882966 You don't understand PoFV at all. it's not wasting resources. Spells are used both for offense and defense. It's a multiplayer game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:43:32 2018 No.18883085 >>18883058 Why bother? He's just going to throw out more false equivalencies while pretending shmups aren't allowed to diverge from the norm (which I guess means Fairy Wars is trash too? And HSiFS, for that matter.)

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:44:50 2018 No.18883091

>>18882966
Sure, but it's still not fucking random. Don't move goalposts. You will consistently have to lose lives in the latter half of the game but you can still consistently win. If your entire argument is that PoFV is shit because you can't NN it, then I'm not going to give you the time of day beyond this post because that's just fucking stupid. I hope you don't get an aneurysm from not being able to gold medal even half the spells in GFW.
Also, where in the definition of "danmaku games" does it say "it must be perfectable"? Have you even played stg outside of Touhou?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:24:53 2018 No.18883292 >>18882655 git gud

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:27:26 2018 No.18883310 >>18883085 They probably are a CAVE shitter. Everything is aimed in those games so it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't know what a random bullets is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:32:57 2018 No.18883342 Just ignore him, that guy always shows up when PoFV is mentioned so he can start a shitstorm.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:04:37 2018 No.18883823
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After playing these games nonstop for almost a year, I am finally taking a break. I can't keep playing with my awful keyboard so I plan on resuming once I get a new one, whenever that will be.
I suppose this gives me time to decide on a new goal. I've been lost on what I want to do since finishing ISC.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:47:18 2018 No.18884048 >>18883823 Have you only played for a year? That's a pretty badass chart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:53:47 2018 No.18884065 >>18883823 Lunatic 1cc something you haven't yet, ExNBs, or LNBs. Pick your favorite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:57:57 2018 No.18884090 I'm a shitter who hasn't cleared any hard mode yet and yet I can consistently clear PoFV on Lunatic through several months of practice and play, it's pretty funny when fags try to pull the RNG argument on games they haven't played.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:05:04 2018 No.18884122 >>18883091 you can no miss PoFV. Any good player can no-miss up to Eiki, regardless of the character played. At that point it's just up to luck, though, unless you are playing specific characters like Aya or Medicine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:06:40 2018 No.18884126 >>18884065 Scoring > all of those. But he can do as he likes. If I were him I would probably 1cc some more games on Lunatic.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:09:17 2018 No.18884137

>>18884048
My first 1cc was almost three years ago now, but I never started seriously playing the games until last year. So yes, most of that chart was filled in a year.

>>18884065
I have been thinking about doing ExNBs, so maybe I will do that when I resume playing. Unsure which extra I would want to do first. Probably Mokou.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:42:33 2018 No.18884351
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>>18883058
Yeah it's not wasted resources, I'm just a couple levels down when I absolutely need them and I lost those levels to randomized bullshit lmao

>>18883091
If it's not random then how come I sometimes get undodgeable vomit in stage 5 and sometimes there's barely a dot on screen?
That's pretty much PoFV in one sentence, thinking of it.

>You will consistently have to lose lives
What a great game.
Maybe I just forgot about it but I don't remember being forced to lose lives in MoF and UFO to make them consistently non-shit. But then according to anon they're shit games because... meme opinions, I suppose.

>>18884090
>I'm a shitter
Then why are you acting like your opinion has any merit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:46:02 2018 No.18884375 >>18884351 shit post

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:10:03 2018 No.18884494 >>18884351 how to spot a crossie

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:14:56 2018 No.18884533 File: 1.72 MB, 2576x1932, 20180102_142729.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw can't find Soku or AoCF in Mandarake yet the collection yearns to be completed

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:21:33 2018 No.18884571

>>18884351
>If it's not random then how come I sometimes get undodgeable vomit in stage 5 and sometimes there's barely a dot on screen?
It's not random in that a strategy exists where using it gives you a very good chance of beating the game, not that bullet density is constant throughout the entire game. I would have said your inferencing is just as bad as your dodging but the latter's probably still a little worse if you're having issues with stage fucking 5.
>Maybe I just forgot about it but I don't remember being forced to lose lives in MoF and UFO to make them consistently non-shit.
Why does this comparison even exist? They're different kinds of games. Just because it's labelled Touhou doesn't mean it can't do something different. And hell it isn't even impossible to no-miss either, just real fucking hard. Or are you going to start calling difficulty a negative now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:22:40 2018 No.18884576 LoLK is a kusoge because I can't NMNB Junko

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:42:18 2018 No.18884714

>>18884571
>It's not random
God damn it dude. PoFV isn't just random, it's randomness incarnate. There are card games out there that are less random than PoFV. Why do you keep pretending it isn't?
Yes, you already made the point that there's a strategy to make the game consistent by killing yourself a lot, and I already told you that's not good game design. The failure state is that, the player failing. I should NOT be required to hit it in order to beat the game unless you have a really good excuse for it, and "just bear with it because i couldn't be arsed to design proper bullet patterns so instead you have unpredictable, random vomit lol" doesn't even get close to that.
Also stage 5 was just an example, holy fuck. If it makes you so mad then pretend I said stage 50.
>Why does this comparison even exist?
I'm not the one that came up with it, scroll up.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:51:35 2018 No.18884760 >>18884714 >okay fine the game can be made consistent but it's still random k lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:12:02 2018 No.18884869 >>18884760 Okay but who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:53:04 2018 No.18885105 >>18884576 To be honest though Fairy Wars is Kusoge because I can't NMNBNF Marisa without touching her lights. And don't even get me started on the photo games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:05:03 2018 No.18885180 All of you are retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:02:27 2018 No.18885477 >>18885180 Does that include you? You're here, after all.

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 03:43:35 2018 No.18886442
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>>18877512
Congrats anon!!! Feels great doesn't it?
>>18883823
For only a year of chart filling, that's pretty damn impressive anon. ExNB are pretty fun, you will enjoy yourself a lot if you go for them after your well deserved break.
>>18884533
This looks very nice!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 15:04:20 2018 No.18886907 nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:56:53 2018 No.18887974 tfw almost 1cced UFO but it was literally my second time with Byakuren. though had I just bombed through instead of trying to capture spells I'd probably get it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 00:38:13 2018 No.18890374 File: 337 KB, 640x480, press x to boogie.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] page nine party time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:08:21 2018 No.18890564 File: 526 KB, 640x480, 13227.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have ascend. I no longer exist in this realm. All because I didn't want to use the viewfinder until the last two shots.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 06:00:31 2018 No.18891723 File: 482 KB, 640x480, th07_2018-04-25_11-30-50.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haven't slept in 40 hours and I feel great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 09:07:56 2018 No.18892384 I tilted real hard on MoF stage 3 losing all extra lives and still 1cced it because I recalled how to do Aya's spells...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 09:51:18 2018 No.18892572 Now that i cleared my first normal 1cc should i aim for the extra stage or 1cc hard? In EoSD

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:26:31 2018 No.18892783 >>18892572 Both are roughly the same difficulty, do what's more fun

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:33:51 2018 No.18892829 >>18892572 play other 2hus to get more danmaku experience otherwise aim for hard 1cc but it's hard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:52:26 2018 No.18892935 >>18892829 I tried to play games from newer eras but i can't get accustomed to them, i don't know maybe the flashy colors/backgrounds or general changes. I feel like EoSD is my home.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:04:22 2018 No.18894568 >>18887974 Why would you do that? Just for survival first.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:18:23 2018 No.18894654
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my second lunatic clear, first was with marisa. this game is very well balanced and i think cirno is the 2nd best shot for pure survival, just below marisa. she has the best bomb and her winter shotgun lets her reach close to marisa winter damage. TH16 is great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:19:27 2018 No.18894659 >>18894654 also, her bomb doesnt reset her stacked lasers which is why she outdamages aya / reimu assuming you arent doing NBNR

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:21:37 2018 No.18894673 >>18894654 also, her bomb lets you keep any stacked winter lasers you gain during the bomb, which is a strong point in her favor

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:37:48 2018 No.18894783 >>18894654 HSiFS survival is kind of boring with releases.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:43:01 2018 No.18894808

>>18892935
I remember when I first played Touhou 8, in the same month I tried 14 (when it came out in 2013), it was a weird feeling at first because of the time discrepancy between the two games, I dropped it temporarily in favor to playing older games, but then I played each number consecutively and when I reached 14 it felt way more natural.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 09:09:14 2018 No.18897468 PCB is literally second hardest 2hu for me, even SA and UFO aren't this memorization heavy. I bet if you can reliably 1cc it you can absolutely play it while blindfolded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 09:37:10 2018 No.18897593 >>18897468 A game being memo heavy is supposed to make it easier, not harder.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:34:44 2018 No.18899095

>>18897468
If normal, do you use vpatch? I thought PCB was damn hard contrary to what everybody claimed, then I finally tried vsync and holy shit, the input lag was really atrocious. Can't say much about harder difficulties because I tried them only a couple times, and without vpatch, but hard wasn't an overkill at least.

On the other hand I'm unable to clear SA at all and it's driving me mad. I've practiced stage 6 a similar amount of time to EoSD extra already and still die at least a few times during practice.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:24:19 2018 No.18899786
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>>18899095
Which character are you using for SA? I suggest ReimuA and MarisaC (the Nitori one) for your first run. High damage output in the former and a decent discount bomb in the latter. Here's a general rundown:

Try to reach the end of stage 3 without dying, and try to minimize bombing. From there, build a strategy around Satori's mind-read cards. Two deaths are fine, but no more and not without bombing.
Stage 5 is a challenge, THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD FOCUS, especially Orin's horrible attacks and cards. Besides the music and the ambience, fuck this stage.
Stage 6 is actually easier than stage 5. Don't get yourself in a tight spot and keep watching the streamed bullets. If you have ReimuA, use the gap ability, it's a life saver.

As for Utsuho:
1. Her normal attacks in order are straight beams which are easy to dodge. After it is the flying one which is pretty intense, don't get caught up in the slower moving bullets that trail behind. The third one is a quick pattern that you have to get in position for, no big deal. The last one is another flying one, but the density of dropped shots is less but they stay on screen for longer.
2. Her first spellcard looks intimidating, but don't worry about the hitbox of the suns, they are much smaller than they look. You HAVE to weave through the blue bullets before the next suns are fired.
3. Second spellcard is RNG fun, almost identical to Patchouli's Emerald Megalith. Plan ahead and watch the fuck out for the smaller bullets that fly at a steep angle. Don't rely on the suns shrinking, they don't always shrink to smallest size. Personally my favorite.
4. Third spellcard is a bitch.You will have to find a spot around the middle gap between the outermost and innermost rings of suns. If you find that sweetspot, then you will only have to do the least movement. You might have to go with the flow to catch yourself from worrying bullets, but you must generally be around the middle.
5. This is a little tricky because the close you are to the center (to shoot the boss) the narrower it is to maneuver and the more tighter the bullets that come at you. It's a basic dodging card in the end.
6. Figure out the final card yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:13:44 2018 No.18900064 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bl1ZiZUqNdbP2OK_W7q6xG6A6FIG78LPfJQrouu6ol4/ If you want to submit a score, use the term 'score' somewhere in your post

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:16:31 2018 No.18900080
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>>18899786
>2.
the hitbox is very close to the size of the suns; i don't know exactly how much leeway there is but it's certainly less than ten pixels. the suns might be the same size as those in ten evil stars.

>5.
there's better visibility toward the sides; ymmv but i find it easier to dodge there. okuu moves horizontally toward the player until the last 15-20% of the screen.
spoilered for strats.

>I suggest ReimuA and MarisaC
these are fine, but reimu is easier to manage overall given the micrododge nature of sa. also, r-c has a substantially easier clear than any other shot because of her powerful and long-lasting bomb, her still-decent damage, and her relatively easy satori fight. other shots might be better for learning the game, though, since they can't cheese sections/attacks with bombs.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:07:45 2018 No.18901043

>>18899095
No, I do not, I guess should try it. My main gripe is strange movement speed of its shots which is really... diverse? You have sonic-speed focused Sakuya, turtle-tier Reimu and balanced Marisa, which do not feel "natural" like in most other 2hus and then you also have micrododging-heavy parts like stage 4 boss fight, Yuyuko's first non etc

I've cleared SA with ReimuA, the easiest shot there is. SA has a really generous inflow of life pieces, and MoF-tier bombing system make it easier than it should be. You should get well enough to clear stage 1 & 2 without losing a single life, then minimize deaths on stage 3. I find stage 4 easier than 3, and only Satori's stolen spells are your trouble.
Stage 5 is waaay easier with ReimuA, as it allows you to stream 34783 spirits without the risk of restreaming due to gap swap. It's the 'make or break' part of your run, if you have 4-6+ lives after it you absolutely can 1cc it. Though, for me personally her hardest spellcard is that "atrocious 50% opacity white balls" spellcard which is 95% misdirection. I love doing Spleen though.
For Utsuho, having a clear mind helped a lot, because I was able to dodge last spell and second-to-last spell long enough to not fuck up the run, otherwise if you have a brainfreeze you're ded. Her first and third nons are no-brainers thankfully. First spell is really fucking annoying as its long time-wise and you need to weasel your way worse than in Youmu's non-spells. Second one is rng luckshit, especially watch out for small bullets that are obstructed by larger shrinking ones. Her third spellcard is easiest imo, you mostly do vertical movement. Fourth is simillar to previous one, don't forget to properly position yourself to avoid an embarassing death. I like staying closer to the centre as your movements will be more orthogonal and easier to execute. The last one is rape-tier closer to the end, but generally you should go with the flow, making small, careful and precise movements and scout out for openings in advance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:51:09 2018 No.18902331 File: 249 KB, 1280x960, lnb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll take it.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:21:03 2018 No.18902445

Beat Raiko, now LoLK is the only Extra stage from Windows era that I haven't beaten yet. Also finally starting to make headway on becoming a Hard-mode player. Feels pretty good.
This extra was also the first I beat completely blind by learning everything on my own, too. All of the other ones I had watched a replay of a clear to get an idea of what to do on the spell cards at least.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:03:27 2018 No.18903032

>>18900080
>r-c has a substantially easier clear than any other shot
>still-decent damage

Yeah, I don't know about that. Reimu C's shot is actually the weakest in the game at a distance (even moreso than Suika's). Marisa A is much better for bomb cheese, given that she actually has a useful shot to go along with it. Because the bomb dolls have to be shotgunned to damage the bosses properly it does require more foresight to deal with annoying spells, but you'd have to do some degree of routing for a Lunatic clear anyway.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:49:12 2018 No.18903286

>>18899786
>>18901043
With some luck I can manage no-death till Orin, then I start getting destroyed and then Okuu just shits down my neck. I've since trained Stage 5 to an acceptable degree but with Okuu I feel like I'm relying on the RNG too much to give me non shitty patterns in first, second and last spellcards. I'll grind it till I get it.

>>18901043
>My main gripe is strange movement speed of its shots
You should love vpatch then.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:00:33 2018 No.18904648

>>18903032
are you saying that m-a has an easier clear than r-a? if so, that's the first i've heard of that, but i'm not going to debate it because i haven't yet done m-a on lunatic (although it definitely wasn't the case on hard). but r-c has a substantially easier clear than r-a.
obligatory: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21714
and that's harder than actually learning the game and building up lives (even with the full-power bonuses routed in that replay). in my r-c route, i should have gotten to sub sun with six extra lives (i had four egregious fuckups and got there with three extra). in my later r-a route, which saved resources due to better routing and additional practice, i should have gotten there with three extra (i had one fuckup so i got there with two extra). the difference was staggering.

>even moreso than Suika's
no, it's about the same as suika's, but that's only at long range and at max power. at midrange, r-c's damage is marginally worse than m-c's damage, but again, that's at max power.

r-c gets the damage of max power at three-power (and two-power damage at one-power), so she gets a free bomb on top of that and she starts stronger for every 3.2-power-drop death. long-range damage applies to about ten potentially threatening attacks, but only four require more than one well-timed bomb to bypass (orin's third non and third spell and okuu's first two spells [and orin's third non can be reliably dodged after routing]). and, unlike m-a, you don't have to commit to bombing beforehand; even if you're far away, you can stop shooting and zip on top of the boss (and continue shooting on top of the boss during most of the post-bomb invincibility before stopping and zipping back down, netting even more damage). that isn't to say that you shouldn't route bombs as, for instance, you can bypass both of orin's midboss nons with one well-timed r-c bomb, but it's simply that you have the opportunity to dodge for a while and potentially save resources.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:10:15 2018 No.18906339 >>18902331 Nice!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 03:29:37 2018 No.18909985 >>18903286 >With some luck I can manage no-death till Orin Then you should be able to bomb through Orin and Okuu with no problem.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 03:40:27 2018 No.18910027

>>18904648
>are you saying that m-a has an easier clear than r-a
Arguably. It's either R-A or M-A depending on how reliant you are on bombs; Reimu-A is without a doubt the best overall shot-type in the game and her bomb is still good enough to skip *most* cards safely if timed correctly. Marisa-A, on the other hand, has the strongest (reliable) shotgun in the game and reliable damage even at a distance on top of a better bomb.

I haven't been able to clear the game on Lunatic with Reimu-C without continues. The lack of shotpower always destroys my stage routing, but I guess you can get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 03:44:36 2018 No.18910044 Some of these fangames are horribly optimized

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 03:47:46 2018 No.18910059 >>18910044 They really are. FDF and Ido's games will lag on some fairly good computers.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 05:00:54 2018 No.18910339
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I decided to finally play 15.5 today hoping that thcrap would have completed the translation by now, and I found there is a v.10 update to v.10, which also has an official translation. Also, thcrap doesnt seem to recognize this update, and can only run v.10.
So which one should I choose? What are the changes in v.10? Are they significant? And which one is better, the official translation or thcrap one?

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 06:46:16 2018 No.18910750

>>18909985
That's what I would do in most games, somehow I can't utilize bombs offensively in SA, I get the opposite effect because my power drops to shit. I guess if I spammed the shit out of them, I could manage that 1cc now but I think it would look miserable, so I'll practice for a bit more.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 10:07:04 2018 No.18911611
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>>18910750
>>18909985
>>18901043
>>18899786
Alright, I made an attempt just now and got the SA 1cc! Thanks for the support, anons. I got to Okuu with 7 lives and left with three, then bombed and deathbombed a million times..

Now I'll either try to cheese LoLK normal with Sanae or go for EoSD hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 11:51:10 2018 No.18912085 >>18910339 thcrap has a much better translation so use that to experience the story. Then update the game to 1.10 for that sweet Overdrive (harder than Lunatic) mode.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 15:35:44 2018 No.18913273

>>18904648
i forgot to mention that m-a also can't bombspam like r-c because m-a spawns with basically the same power as the rest of the cast when she dies at low power. so she's gimped in boss fights after a death and she has to perform better on stages to build up power before boss fights (she can't just plan a s4 pre-boss suicide or a s5 post-midboss death for power).

>>18910027
>Reimu-A is without a doubt the best overall shot-type in the game
it isn't. r-c is substantially better, as i explained.
>and her bomb is still good enough to skip *most* cards safely if timed correctly.
no, it absolutely isn't. you can skip dbdb and sdr, but even then you still need decent shot power (which you might not have at that point).
>The lack of shotpower
again, as i previously explained, this is grossly overstated to the point of misrepresentation.
>always destroys my stage routing.
and you don't need massive shot power for stages, especially when r-c can bomb all the remotely tricky sections (and clear the screen, which m-a's bomb can't do).

the replay i previously linked shows what r-c can do. if you still have doubts, here's one that i did, which is a normal run.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44931
i am not good/consistent and this is not a pretty run, but it should still demonstrate just how good r-c is. i get to sub sun with two extra lives, but add two more lives for the second s5 death and for bombing and dying to s6 streaming, another life for the bungled okuu fight (would have saved a death if hadn't bombed non 2, hadn't bombed non 4, or simply hadn't missed .05 power after dying to peta flare [or if had used the safe area in ten evil stars]), and two life pieces - for another life - for the bungled okuu fight and the cannibal spirit death (assuming i should have died [then bombed] sdr instead of timing it out). there are other mistakes, but those are the most impactful ones.

so, an r-c bombspam run with no critical mistakes gets to sub sun with six extra lives. that's without using any safe spots/areas and basically without any difficult dodging. i invite anyone to get anywhere close to that, with those conditions, with any other shot type.

r-a having the easiest sa clear is a bad meme. at least tout m-b as the best; that can actually be humorous when done properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 16:21:17 2018 No.18913687 >>18913273 He said reimu a is the best overall shottype, not for some 1cc, who cares what shot you use for 1cc, just press x

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 16:28:10 2018 No.18913744

>>18913273
>i invite anyone to get anywhere close to that, with those conditions, with any other shot type.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44932
Eh. No safespots, and I don't think I did any really difficult dodges. I even bombed a lot of things that are usually easy for me.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 17:21:16 2018 No.18914085

>not for some 1cc
>It's either R-A or M-A
i've also covered why r-c has an easier clear than m-a (in addition to the better hitbox and slower focused speed).

>>18913744
>easy for me
that's the catch. by "those conditions" i meant bombing everything of comparable difficulty to what i bombed (since you have to have the same baseline in comparing clear difficulty), and by dodging parsee's nons and last spell you're already surpassing that. granted, all bombing those would do is get you to yuugi at maybe a half-power less, but it gets hader to track after that. there shouldn't be a yuugi death but there should have been a couple more bombs so s4 should be started at relatively low power (which would eventually require a pre-boss suicide), early bombs in s4 make up for fewer later bombs, then satori gets a lot of nice dodging where there should have been bombs and two/three deaths, orin should have gotten bombs and a couple deaths, and okuu (pre-sub sun) should have gotten another death or two. if your dodging had been garbage instead of good, you'd be at sub sun with 1-3 extra lives. four extra lives, maybe. definitely not six.

it's a nice run, though. i hope to become that skilled with enough work.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 18:26:38 2018 No.18914473

>>18911611
Congratulations! I'd definitely try out to get a EoSD hard clear.
Vpatch does improve PCB gameplay, as it feels less of a slog, however MarisaA is still a subpar shot... I'd take MarisaB's Master Spark over it any day.
Also I almost 1cced SA as ReimuC on the first try, if not for two stupid deaths at stage 5 I'd have certainly survived the last spell as I've entered it on last life. It does have a nice bomb, however ReimuA's gap swap still make stage streaming much easier, and therefore less prone to accidental splats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 20:39:41 2018 No.18915075 Holy crap. Riverbed Soul Saver is awesome. So polished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 21:03:38 2018 No.18915188 >>18915075 stage 4 and 5 feels kinda lame and uninspired, momo's battle still top tier tho

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 22:46:46 2018 No.18915849 >>18915362 >>18915367 >easy You can do better than that, anon.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 01:53:41 2018 No.18917311 File: 402 KB, 640x480, first scarlet 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey guys got my first lunatic 1cc! I even managed to clear with 3 lives!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 01:53:58 2018 No.18917315 SoEW LNN is cancer

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 01:55:17 2018 No.18917322 >>18917311 Good job man! How much time did it take?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 01:58:11 2018 No.18917352 >>18917322 Only 1100 hours

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 01:58:47 2018 No.18917354 >>18917352 talented

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 11:30:39 2018 No.18920034 >>18917311 lmao my favorite score meme from the cool kids sekrit club trololol I never get tired of those!!!1

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 14:23:26 2018 No.18921180 >>18911611 Congrats anon! Definitely go for EoSD hard first. LoLK is a mess to play after doing an SA clear, and cheesing it is doing disservice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 14:52:48 2018 No.18921306 What OBS settings should I use for Touhou streaming? My laptop is choking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:16:24 2018 No.18921417 how do you get through HSiFS stage 4 without bombing the hell out of it (plus release)? i never have that much trouble with any other stage 4, maybe except on LoLK. even stage 5 isnt as hard, desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:24:51 2018 No.18921456 >>18921417 Character/season/difficulty? I'll make a replay or just link one of the old ones I made if they're applicable. Think I made a bunch of stage 4 NNNs for this thread on different occasions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:25:12 2018 No.18921458 >>18921417 I found stage 5 to be harder. You do have to set a bomb or two aside for the end of stage 4, though.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:27:49 2018 No.18921468

>>18921456
normal, character/season doesnt matter that much although I usually do Marisa or Reimu with winter or autumn
>>18921458
i found it a lot easier to stream bullets in stage 5 just because in stage 4 you not only have bullets directed at you, but endless vertical + diagonal lines of bullets as well that just seems to get excessive after a while

the one thing that really fucks me over in that stage, and 16 in general, is how the fairies continue shooting bullets at you even while they're under you on the screen and it always catches me off guard

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:32:48 2018 No.18921490 >>18921468 https://mega.nz/#!FewiBAhD!95DEdNazicPloR0YTJgEE8Shb6QSCOFij1LHUBUuuAo This should be it. Marisa Winter. >>18653138 if you don't know where to put it, plus some comments

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:33:56 2018 No.18921495 >>18921490 >This should be it. Marisa Winter. thanks. was just playing as her so it'll be helpful

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 15:45:27 2018 No.18921536 >>18921490 definitely learned a few things from this (didnt know you could go across the top at the beginning) i can see that the end of the stage is still tricky, but i think i could definitely get out of it using just one or two bombs

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:20:03 2018 No.18921683 >>18863803 >>least favorite game TD >favorite game UFO >easiest boss Rumia >hardest boss Clownpiece

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:55:12 2018 No.18921853

>>18921306
This might help, those settings depend of you computer and internet connection. Also if you are going to stream to twitch please make sure the game section only says "Touhou" and not the complete name of whatever game you are planning on streaming. https://youtu.be/BtZazqLgBjw?t=290

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 17:56:45 2018 No.18922160 File: 398 KB, 1280x960, marisaw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Happy with this, I wanted to get over 500mil with MarisaW and it's pretty simple. I don't see how people can get over a billion with this shot, that's crazy

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 19:27:47 2018 No.18922481 >want to get into touhou but I'm fucking trash at bullet hells >just been watching other people play for about 4 years now when will my suffering end

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 19:34:01 2018 No.18922505 >>18922481 nigga in 4 years you can at least get a 1cc if you're not literally disabled.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 19:46:12 2018 No.18922545 >>18922481 it took me like a month to 1cc every game on normal and i'd never even played bullet hell games before that. you're obviously going to be bad at first but we all have to start somewhere

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 20:11:07 2018 No.18922644 >>18922160 Scoring in HSiFS is some shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 20:12:10 2018 No.18922646 >>18922481 Took me around a month to get my first 1cc, and I got a hard clear in half a year afterwards. You're going to start off as garbage because you've never played the genre, just play it and you will get better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 20:19:53 2018 No.18922685 >>18922505 >literally disabled. a-about that

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 21:53:45 2018 No.18923082 Which game's multiplayer is more fun, Touhou Kobuto V: Burst Battle or Touhou Genso Rondo: Bullet Ballet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 00:08:13 2018 No.18923763 >>18923082 wrong thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 00:20:44 2018 No.18923841 >>18923763 Isn't this the Touhou gameplay thread? But if you're talking about the /vg/ thread, I didn't have much luck there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 00:48:57 2018 No.18923984 >>18923841 This thread is about ZUN's games. occasionally someone might post about a fangame, but only ZUN-likes (shmup fangames)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 01:16:13 2018 No.18924113 >>18923082 Ignore the fuckboy. I have both games, and Genso Rondo is playable, Kobuto is awful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 01:37:17 2018 No.18924200 >>18924113 I appreciate it, thanks. That one is also cheaper. >>18923984 ZUN is a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 01:41:56 2018 No.18924224 >>18922481 Play 1-2 runs per day with continues so you can experience all stages. Don't think it'll take much time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 02:37:24 2018 No.18924490 fuck off to the shitty thread, secondaries don't shit up ours

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 02:52:42 2018 No.18924551 Oh man, I accidentally quit to title after dying to Junko's survival spell, and after a long time of banging my head against Clownpiece and her. Where's the "Are you sure?" prompt at?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 09:49:01 2018 No.18925950 >>18924551 You can continue where you left off. Just try again and hit the "yes" prompt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 11:28:46 2018 No.18926500 >>18924490 These thread are already terrible simply because they concern Touhou. Don't pretend they're not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 12:48:09 2018 No.18927006 File: 3 KB, 128x128, Th04gengetu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18926500 You can leave if you don't like it.

Anonymous Mon Apr 30 14:37:44 2018 No.18927655

>>18926500
No. Stop calling everything that you consider "weeb", "neetlike" etc. garbage. Sure, think that way if you don't like it, but if you do enjoy it, if you post in these threads, in these places, do not pretend you do not like it here. Too many things went to shit because of people ironically (and afterwards, not ironically) calling them shit. If touhou means anything to you, stop. And if not, just leave. Why the fuck would you stay here if that is the case?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 14:46:03 2018 No.18927708 >>18926500 Ok esl-fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 17:31:31 2018 No.18928748 >>18910059 Never noticed lag in FDF, but you are absolutely right about the Ido games. In general, the only major Danmakufu games that seem to run well are CtC and BoSM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 17:32:36 2018 No.18928755 >>18910339 Use the official because it's written by an actual fan as opposed to ironic weebs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 17:37:26 2018 No.18928794 >>18928755 >ironic weebs I'm sick of this meme already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 19:42:17 2018 No.18929562 reminder that cirno doesn't exist in canon universe

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 19:53:21 2018 No.18929607 If I was collecting "official" Touhou game and music CDs: Would I need anything other than the mainline games, ZUN's Renko and Maribel music CDs, and Akyuu's Untouched Score?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 19:58:09 2018 No.18929638 >>18929607 Yeah, the non-mainline games. Those come in CDs too you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 22:39:15 2018 No.18930434 >>18928755 nice bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 22:41:21 2018 No.18930442 >>18929607 There are accompanying music CDs in various written works. And would you not count the official fighting game OSTs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 22:48:46 2018 No.18930467 >>18926500 Look at how cool I am cus I don't like something popular guys I'm so cool I'm gonna post in a touhou oriented thread that touhou sucks guys am I cool yet xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddDddD

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 23:20:19 2018 No.18930630 >>18929607 >ZUN's Renko and Maribel music CDs You're including DiPP in that, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 15:10:31 2018 No.18935250 >>18929607 Wasn't Akyuu released only on ZUN's blog?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 20:01:51 2018 No.18937136 >>18929607 Dont forget ZUN's Midis as well. Check Romantique Tp's playlist on youtube.

Anonymous Tue May 1 22:15:37 2018 No.18937940
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I've been trying to 1cc EoSD for the past few weeks and it's been tough. The farthest I made it without continuing is the very beginning of Stage 5 with MarisaB. Are either of these two good jumping points if I want to experience the absolute best the series can offer?

Anonymous Tue May 1 22:19:49 2018 No.18937967

>>18937940
You should probably delete that image dude.

IN is often regarded as a good jumping point, but not UFO. IN, MoF, PCB, Eosd, are considered good entryways, but the "absolute best the series can offer" is subjective to your goals and experience, so you won't get a real answer. Just play what's fun and have fun.

Anonymous Tue May 1 23:25:52 2018 No.18938303

>>18937940
I just got into Touhou a couple months ago with IN, and I absolutely loved it. I 1cc'd normal, then I started EoSD and PCB. Now I'm worried that I'm nothing will reach the standard that IN set up for me.

Also Sakuya is a filthy whore who eats up all of my bombs.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:57:20 2018 No.18938432 If I want to 1cc PoDD, who's the character to do it with?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 00:49:58 2018 No.18938660 How do I get into Touhou?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 01:50:04 2018 No.18938861 >>18938432 I found it easiest to 1cc with Mima. Time your charges just right.

Anonymous Wed May 2 08:30:35 2018 No.18940364

>>18937940
I'd say, keep it up with EoSD, just switch to homing reimu maybe. Steadily introduce yourself to sitting underneath the enemy at most times.
UFO surely is not a good place to start, its system for gaining lives, bombs or score is really neat, but is a major distraction and that's exactly why I love it. Bullets are throwing you out of track enough most certainly. IN's system is distracting only if you have similiar kind of autism to me, PCB's is not really intrusive at all and EoSD just doesn't have one.

>>18938660
EoSD, Normal, ReimuA is the best place to start with touhou or at least that's what people who started there will tell you. The game is rather harder than the next two, hitbox is not visible ever (unless you use some external mod, but this is cheating yo) and movement is a bit coarse compared to later entries – it's just slower and items do not gravitate towards you while focused, you probably won't notice if that's your first – but it's really simple, elegant in its simplicity I'd say. And hey, it's the first Windows one, it's only natural to start there, isn't it? Yeah, I did begin with it Playing on easy is purposeless, you won't get to the final stage and will have to practice more to do a normal run anyway. Also, you'll get laughed at if you ever tell anyone. Don't worry if you don't get it after a week, two, month, or even three, six of those. Go at your own pace, those games are hard, but they reward patience, both in the singular runs and your overall preformance. You are going to get there one day, for now, use all your continues and just play. I wouldn't ask for help too, you'd probably only get "Play more" and "Bomb more". And those are the best ones you can get too.
The other often cited place to start is the next one, PCB. It looks fantastic, has lots of effects. It's as elegant as EoSD but for quite a different reason, its ornamentality. This game really is gorgeous, that's for sure. You probably want to know how it stands with difficulty though, well, it is certainly easier than EoSD, but if you decide to start there, don't think it'll be easy for you, it is easy only in comparison. I recommend ReimuA on Normal for the same reasons as in EoSD, homing shots are bliss for newcomers.
About IN... I'd rather not speak out about it, as my opinion is far from the popular one I just don't like it all that much, I don't get the appeal. There is a plethora of people who find it their favourite one, so yeah.
In conclusion, you don't wanna miss out on EoSD's Sakuya, start there.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 14:19:44 2018 No.18942464 >>18940364 Thanks a lot for your detailed and extensive answer.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 14:20:41 2018 No.18942472 are safespots cheating?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 14:35:03 2018 No.18942560 >>18942472 no

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 14:40:22 2018 No.18942584 >>18942472 How would you even argue that it is, without insane mental gymnastics?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 14:41:43 2018 No.18942589 >>18942472 Only if you don't supergraze.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 18:18:41 2018 No.18943629 File: 1.03 MB, 1024x1024, 1500828329932.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Name a worse character gameplay-wise, I bet you can't.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 18:19:43 2018 No.18943636 >>18942472 I think at a good portion of them are put there on purpose.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 18:27:40 2018 No.18943674 >>18942472 They are cheap. Not cheating.

Anonymous Wed May 2 19:30:25 2018 No.18943926

I have been having problems emulating PC98, I tried using the following guides to set up both Neko Project and T98 Next:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6549.0
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11117.0.html
But whenever I try them, in Neko it just runs slowly overall, and I have done runs in T98 that get around 20% slowdown for LLS lunatic, fucking 44% for MS extra.
Can somebody help me? I just want to play old 2hu.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 19:42:17 2018 No.18943982 File: 80 KB, 500x501, bait1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18942472 You're so cool for baiting every other thread dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 21:05:43 2018 No.18944436 >>18943636 Proof.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 21:08:42 2018 No.18944460 File: 942 KB, 640x640, 1385774289373.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18943629 But she's good in HSiFS. Honestly, I've never enjoyed Youmu in any of her games, even TD.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:12:45 2018 No.18945299 >>18935250 No? You might be thinking of the page 東方幻想的音楽 with MIDI stuff for sound modules. Those are different from Untouched. >>18937136 Those aren't CDs.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:14:16 2018 No.18945308 >>18945299 >Those aren't CDs. * But do check out that channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NAstdwtl2UY158U9C-E9w/playlists

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:59:13 2018 No.18945554 >>18944460 >But she's good in HSiFS. She has a good bomb, but everything else about her I hate. Her piercing doesn't feel particularly useful, her unfocused shot isn't as good as Cirno or Reimu's, and she moves so fast that she's difficult to control.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 00:02:49 2018 No.18945577 >>18944460 shes the best scoring character. shes the worst shot unless you are using autumn. TH16 is pretty well balanced overall.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 00:04:01 2018 No.18945587 >>18944460 youmu in TD is fucking rancid, trying to clear the extra stage with her is like pulling teeth. yes i know she can score like a maniac but using her for regular play was excruciating.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 00:48:05 2018 No.18945814 >>18917311 Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AndrewScala1

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 01:07:51 2018 No.18945887 >>18945814 What u doin here obama

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 02:00:36 2018 No.18946097 >>18945814 Hey, mokou sheep here! Thanks for the advertisment bro, you don't have to pretend to be me though to make people think I'm too scared to advertise myself though

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 03:47:45 2018 No.18946471 File: 268 KB, 640x479, 2018-05-03-152533352442_scrot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy fug I can't believe i got so far on lunatic. I don't even have a hard 1cc

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 05:06:55 2018 No.18946714 File: 90 KB, 723x477, 1520114839448.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18946471 >continues used: 3

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 05:32:36 2018 No.18946766 >>18946714 Oh my, you surely play much better than me. Glorious you who 1cc-s lunatic with no bombs on a regular basis.

Anonymous Thu May 3 05:58:35 2018 No.18946850
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I mean i have no doubt you actually can do this. But as i stated i am not a good 2hu player, here's my chart, it's much worse than the one majority of this thread has

But you know, when we all started playing touhou (Those people who didn't play the genre before) lunatic seemed like an impossible thing that isn't reachable by normal human beings.

And here it is. I bombed a lot, especially on Sakuya and Remilia, but i survived the shitstorm, even capturing some of the spellcards and managing to survive for some seconds on others. Lunatic doesn't look inhuman now, doesn't look like a thing for lunatics. It looks possible.

That's a really nice feel, getting closer to actually being good.

Anonymous Thu May 3 07:00:16 2018 No.18947054

>>18945587
I'm not going to comment on her performance in Extra because I've never beaten TD Extra with anybody (I can't get past the first few barrages no matter who I pick and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong) but Youmu was pretty fun when I 1cc'd the main mode.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 07:41:01 2018 No.18947235 >>18946850 >>18946471 Good stuff, dude.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 12:53:42 2018 No.18948955 File: 221 KB, 532x495, thLZLzi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18946850 you've beaten 3 games on normal. lunatic is pretty much the standard mode. of course it is not impossible, it's fucking easy. good grief, get over yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:19:28 2018 No.18949750 >>18948955 >lunatic is pretty much the standard mode. One day I, too, will be good enough to be delusional >>18946850 a 1cc is a 1cc.You're getting better and that's what matters. It's surprisingly easy to get better at this game.

Anonymous Thu May 3 15:37:49 2018 No.18949847

>>18937940
>IN is too easy
>UFO is bare-bones

The first point just isnt true unless you rely on death bombing I guess, and I'm not even sure what he means by the second point. If you want to call a game bare-bones, then certainly that applies to EoSD the most

EoSD was my first game too but it wasnt my first 1cc. I think PCB is a good entry into the series but if you want something relatively newer and not difficult, MoF is also a decent place to start.

Anonymous Thu May 3 15:43:46 2018 No.18949873

>>18945587
don't know if i'd go this far but any shot type in any of the games that doesnt shoot by simply holding down the fire button, or forces you to move to change the direction of the bullets, is just not a good shot type and not fun to use.

it takes the focus off the bullets coming towards you

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:47:41 2018 No.18949901 >>18949873 Even tho PCB SakuyaB, Solo Youmu and TD Youmu are all great shots?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:50:17 2018 No.18949922 >>18949901 didnt say theyre ineffective, just that theyre inconvenient to use. to me, the extra damage boost you may get from one of those shots is offset by trying to use them in the first place i'm sure they're better for skillful players

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 18:22:38 2018 No.18950561 >>18948955 >it's fucking easy Feel free to stream a lolk or eosd low miss lnb anytime now.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 18:47:17 2018 No.18950698 >>18915188 >stage 4 I don't agree, it's aesthetic and comfy, imo.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 19:52:20 2018 No.18951061 >>18950561 Damn it if you had lowered the bar a little I might have tried but alas.

Anonymous Thu May 3 20:01:49 2018 No.18951124
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>>18938432
Kotohime's charge attack is really broken if you want to cheese the game. (Please don't)

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 22:05:58 2018 No.18951860 >>18951124 I only played the game once, as Kana, and got to Yumemi's final half-heart on my first continue, so I don't think I'll need to cheese it. But I'll keep that in mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 04:04:47 2018 No.18953297 File: 165 KB, 616x780, 1488495643826.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18937940 >UFO >solid entry Imagine the poor fellow that has to deal with UFOs in his first game.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 07:31:50 2018 No.18954036 I'm playing Reimu/Yukari in IN Normal. How do I stop Marissa from kicking my ass? Also, how should I manage my gauge?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 08:00:07 2018 No.18954121 >>18954036 >How do I stop Marissa from kicking my ass? Git gud, bomb more. >how should I manage my gauge? Do not. This thing is there for score and will only make you play worse if you care too much about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 10:12:48 2018 No.18954730 >>18950561 The fuck is your point?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 15:40:09 2018 No.18956282 0-1 PoDD 2-3 EoSD 4-5 TD 6-7 ISC 8-9 HSiFS

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 15:44:58 2018 No.18956310 >>18956282 >Go through the bother of making a roll post only to get the normalfag game Bad luck anon

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 16:19:40 2018 No.18956469 >>18956310 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 16:30:05 2018 No.18956510 >>18954730 Obviously he's saying it's not as easy as you said it was. >>18956282 Rolling, but there's more than 10 games, anon, add more to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 16:39:32 2018 No.18956549 >>18956510 you're dumb, it is easy

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 16:45:07 2018 No.18956571 >>18946766 I do because I don't need continues to clear.

Anonymous Fri May 4 16:45:53 2018 No.18956577

>>18956510
I wasn't really making a general roll list, just one for my own goals. But if you want,

HRtP 00-04
SoEW 05-09
PoDD 10-14
LLS 15-19
MS 20-24
EoSD 25-29
PCB 30-34
IN 35-39
PoFV 40-44
StB 45-49
MoF 50-54
SA 55-59
UFO 60-64
DS 65-69
FW 70-74
TD 75-79
DDC 80-84
ISC 85-89
LoLK 90-94
HSiFS 95-99

Roll away, indecisive fucks.
In case you don't want to play PC-98 (that is, if you roll 00-24), multiply your roll by 3 and add 25 to it for your new roll.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 16:46:41 2018 No.18956580 >>18946850 Keep going. My chart looked like yours 4 months ago and now I have two Lunatic clears, and hard cleared on every game (except fucking UFO)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 16:59:59 2018 No.18956630 >>18956580 Very nice!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 17:14:56 2018 No.18956719 >>18956577 Rolling again cause I got within a hair of beating Yumemi and I'm upset about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 17:20:47 2018 No.18956741 >>18956577 rollin

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 02:05:27 2018 No.18958893 >>18956577 meow

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 09:48:47 2018 No.18960831 File: 573 KB, 800x960, 1518107486521.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7r5jUxAgo Does anyone know what song is at 15:00? It wasn't adult content so I couldn't ask /r/

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 10:03:20 2018 No.18960893 >>18960831 >>>/wsr/ exists. Look up Shinki's other theme from the 2hu wiki.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 10:06:08 2018 No.18960913 >>18960893 Thank you, I thought there was a work safe request board but I forgot the name of it and gave up. Thanks btw.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 10:45:58 2018 No.18961167 File: 163 KB, 1280x800, argh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck do I dodge those little exploding motherfuckers?

Anonymous Sat May 5 17:14:21 2018 No.18963154
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What game do you main and what gives you more trouble?
IN is my main game and I still have a lot of stuff left to do on it, while for UFO and DDC I don't think I'll be doing a lot of stuff in them once I fill their charts.
Posting progress from >>18677981

>>18946850
It's really nice to see new charts being posted, keep up the great job anon, lunatic will be the standard for you at some point!

Anonymous Sat May 5 17:57:50 2018 No.18963408
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So I decided to play Highly Responsive to Prayers and I'm not very far in. I was taken aback at how different it is from subsequent installments but it's kind of fun. What do you think of it? I don't see it discussed much outside of Mima.

Anonymous Sat May 5 18:58:01 2018 No.18963775

>>18963408
I love how bombing is executed by hitting the buttons really quickly. It's quite refreshing not to have a bomb key and fits its purpose well too.

Overally, it's a nice game. Acutally I find myself playing it quite a lot lately, still am shit at it though. That being said, it's hard. As fuck. Or at least it seems so, maybe getting into bullet hells was comparably difficult and I just don't remember it. Normal stages are relatively simple, only few of those I have consistent problems with (at least on Makai route), but bosses... shit man. They're difficult as hell, maybe apart from the first one. Final boss especially, I found near to impossible to beat at first. Now I know that it was quite an exaggeration, yet still, the fight is one damn of a challenge.
<for people who haven't played the thing –- you get unlimited continues in this game, but you start from the beggining of stage you were at and bossfights are separate stages though at the end of the run the game will tell you how many you needed and where>

I would say that it's similiar to later entries in the Touhou series in more ways than one would assume at the first glance. Maybe the core gameplay mechanic is different, but the feel when playing the game isn't that distant. Just a thought I had.

Also, is it my mind or does the game plays slower/faster at times? I don't mean the problem with multiple cpus colligation and stuff. I am using Next PC-98 emulator, dunno if that's a universal problem, one with the emulator used or a problem at all. It might as well be my mind playing tricks on me.

HRtP is a neat game. Totle Continous MIKOsan. Congratulation ! ! ! !

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 19:45:54 2018 No.18964053 >>18963775 games pretty bad desu senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 22:07:35 2018 No.18964603 What's the easiest game to 1cc for a newfag?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 22:20:20 2018 No.18964667 >>18964603 SA

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 22:39:53 2018 No.18964748 >>18964603 Don't go at where it's the easiest. That's lame. PCB prolly.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 22:40:10 2018 No.18964751 File: 26 KB, 350x300, 6AB19390-DF1E-444E-83B0-4C6A9D9FDBCC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PC-98ScoreAnon, are you here?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 22:44:22 2018 No.18964772 >>18964667 Very funny dude. >>18964603 PCB or TD

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 22:49:28 2018 No.18964791 >>18964751 So, if I get score in PC-98 games and I post here anonymously, do I classify as a PC-98ScoreAnon?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 23:16:18 2018 No.18964909 >>18964603 assuming normal, eosd, mof, in, pcb

Anonymous Sun May 6 04:20:52 2018 No.18965981
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>>18964603
Play LoLK in Pointdevice mode. Pointdevice mode is a perfect practice for newcomers. You may want to give up and kill yourself after thousands of deaths, but trust me, you’ll be a man if you manage to clear it.

>>18964791
Nah

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 15:04:57 2018 No.18969503 I 1cc'd EoSD hard for the second time, and for the second time I accidentally didn't save the replay. I think I might be retarded, or the brain cells responsible for thinking are slowly being replaced with cells responsible for dodging bullets.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 18:12:53 2018 No.18970670 File: 514 KB, 640x480, pofv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf komachi you were supposed to rape me >>18964603 eosd in terms of usefulness mof if you want to bomb through everything TD is the easiest, but it requires some 2hu skill.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 18:54:20 2018 No.18970888 >>18970670 >TD is the easiest Not even close

Anonymous Sun May 6 19:35:05 2018 No.18971117

>>18970888
given normal difficulty, none of the bosses are threating. especially stage 5, which is a joke compared to other 2hus.

the true difficulty lies in fact there are fuck all resources to collect, and you need a lot of life pieces for a single life (8-15, and even if you hit trances at the right time you get +4 max). as the result, every miss is really lethal for the run.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 19:44:32 2018 No.18971165 >>18971117 >as the result, every miss is really lethal for the run. And you still call it the easiest Have you ever played PCB or LLS, my man

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 19:54:19 2018 No.18971229 Just a quick question, but is there a MEGA somewhere with all of the touhou games so I don't have to download them one by one?

>>	Alice Sun May 6 20:12:39 2018 No.18971311 File: 707 KB, 1500x1600, 1525624801370.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18971229 https://nyaa.si/view/979648

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 20:18:47 2018 No.18971329 >>18971311 thanks much

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 20:52:13 2018 No.18971467 EoSD, PCB, and IN. The only three Touhou games you'll ever need.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:15:12 2018 No.18971578 DDC, LoLK and HSiFS. The only three Touhou games you'll ever need.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:16:29 2018 No.18971583 >>18971578 Aww yeah, I love sacrificing my power in order to use bombs.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:17:54 2018 No.18971593 >>18971583 none of those games work that way

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:18:00 2018 No.18971594 HRtP, GFW, and AoCF. The only three Touhou games you'll ever need.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:18:39 2018 No.18971600 HRtP, SoEW and PoDD. The only three Touhou games that need to disappear off the face of the planet.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:19:25 2018 No.18971603 >>18971593 Yeah, like I give a shit to play games past the Classic era. All the replays on YouTube of Modern games look the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:22:13 2018 No.18971619 >>18971603 What is considered classic era? Everything before MoF, PoFV or what?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:22:58 2018 No.18971625 >>18971619 eosd through pofv

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:23:23 2018 No.18971630 >>18971619 >>18971625 Yeah, Before MoF. I just didn't include PoFV in my trinity because it wasn't that amazing.

Anonymous Sun May 6 21:36:23 2018 No.18971690

>>18971583
>>18971603
So you're so fucking clueless that you thought MoF and SA's bomb mechanics extended to everything after? Way to completely discredit your opinion. Plenty of modern era games are flawed but you couldn't even point any out if you tried. Why bother shitting on things you know nothing about?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:40:40 2018 No.18971707 >>18971690 he was probably joking with the first statement dude, don't take an anonymous opinion, albeit strong, too seriously pls

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:40:45 2018 No.18971709 >>18971600 What did SoEW do to you It should be PoFV

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:42:56 2018 No.18971722 File: 197 KB, 600x587, 1519021279552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18971707 >i was just pretending to be retarded Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 21:43:23 2018 No.18971728 >>18971707 fuck dude I just want to see him backpedal some more don't ruin my fun pls

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 22:01:59 2018 No.18971837 File: 397 KB, 827x1223, Bait Waki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18971583

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 22:04:25 2018 No.18971851 >>18971722 thought it was pretty clear how it was a joke, I don't think it could have been much more obvious

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 22:06:31 2018 No.18971861 >>18971851 Jokes are supposed to be funny. Nobody laughed at what you posted, but plenty of people are now laughing at you. You're the only joke here, anon. Congratulations.

>>	Alice Sun May 6 22:28:49 2018 No.18972001 File: 419 KB, 598x598, Strong Zero.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18971861 Hey now it thought it pretty funny. Lighten Up. On topic: I'm so close to beating StB, but i'm procrastinating hardcore and I don't know why.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 23:01:22 2018 No.18972169 >>18972001 Yeah I engage in the same behaviour. I've been close to beating ISC for more than half a year, yet I haven't touched it much at all since.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 23:13:12 2018 No.18972216 >>18971861 Whatever dude, take it easy, I'm not even the guy who posted that

Anonymous Mon May 7 05:57:44 2018 No.18973428

>>18971165
I haven't played LLS, but PCB is waay harder in terms of danmaku patterns, which is #1 reason people miss. Of course you can abuse borders, but they have to be managed to have any real impact (like getting one in stage 4 intermission lmao) and accidental splats are bad for your cherry, and that's not what new players are capable of.
Even Prismriver fight is more challenging than Futo's.
I think the main reason for that is because the game had to be balanced around Youmu's focused "melee" shot".

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 09:34:08 2018 No.18974319 >>18973428 >PCB is waay harder Post dismissed.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 10:24:05 2018 No.18974599 >>18974319 Not him, but PCB does have harder patterns than TD, though it does have more than double the room for mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 10:59:20 2018 No.18974777 >>18974319 opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 11:42:08 2018 No.18975029 File: 59 KB, 188x159, 1525707728974.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yuuka is cute!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 21:29:24 2018 No.18977869 >>18964603 Everyone is giving you contrarian answers because they don't want to admit that the obvious answer is the correct one. The actual answer is IN, of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 21:55:09 2018 No.18977990 >>18964603 Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom. There was the guy who beat it while bombing and dying on every chapter.

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