/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Good God. Just look at that Mary Sue.

Picture Fucking Related.

Take 2.

[Anonymous No.]

needs more GARy Stue

[Anonymous No.]

What's a Mary Sue anyway
someone explain

[Anonymous No.]

>>1885958
If you don't like something, it's a mary sue.

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody fucking cares already. Go back to /b/ where you belong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>Mary Sue, sometimes shortened simply to Sue, is a pejorative term used to describe a fictional character who plays a major role in the plot and is particularly characterized by overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors or readers. Perhaps the single underlying feature of all characters described as "Mary Sues" is that they are too ostentatious for the audience's taste, or that the author seems to favor the character too highly. The author may seem to push how exceptional and wonderful the "Mary Sue" character is on his or her audience, sometimes leading the audience to dislike or even resent the character fairly quickly; such a character could be described as an "author's pet".

[Anonymous No.]

>>1885989
You forgot to mention that it also mostly applies to characters in fan fiction. Last I checked, Fate/Stay Night wasn't fan fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

It sure is last year /a/ here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1885997
There is, however, a category of Mary Sue that applies to canon roles:
>>A "canon Sue" may also refer to a character whose canon portrayal itself is seen as a "Mary Sue", rather than a character who has been altered in fan fiction. Typically, this refers to a character accused of being overly idealized or having other traits traditionally associated with fan fiction "Mary Sues", such as being "special" by having a gratuitously tragic past, unrealistic skills, or a seeming inability for the character to do wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

saber has character flaws

[Anonymous No.]

>>1886012

As I've said before, this is universal to all the Servants.

Shirou and Archer are more Gary Stueish than Saber is Mary Sueish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1885989
If anyone is a mary sue then it would be that round faced, ugly sakura nasu keeps imposing on me.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!mGXYMm0qKk/ No.]

She thinks her whole life was a failure and lacks confidence in what she had accomplished. Also, she isn't the most powerful, and it's the Saber class itself that's above par.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1885989
>overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors or readers.
So Saber isn't a Mary Sue.