Oh my wow, I don't even know how to describe what I'm feeling right now. Jesus Christ almighty,

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Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:12:55 2009 No.1879955 [Reply] [Original]

Oh my wow, I don't even know how to describe what I'm feeling right now. Jesus Christ almighty,

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:14:16 2009 No.1879970 Wait, what? The translation is out?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:15:29 2009 No.1879974 File: 50 KB, 275x300, 1231298129860.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1879970

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:15:48 2009 No.1879975 Did you just get there? Yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:18:57 2009 No.1879989 >>1879974 Goddamn, I lol'd. Great concept.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:23:16 2009 No.1880006 She can even cook? Saya's wonderful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:23:52 2009 No.1880009 But the translation isnt complete

>>	The Truth !!MgbMcXTivBq Wed Jan 7 03:25:44 2009 No.1880017 where can i get the translation?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:26:51 2009 No.1880022 Translation here %5bTLWiki%5d_Saya_no_Uta_English_Localization_v0.9.zip

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:29:20 2009 No.1880033 http://www.tsukuru.info/%5bTLWiki%5d_Saya_no_Uta_English_Localization_v0.9.zip whoops

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Wed Jan 7 03:34:41 2009 No.1880063 File: 163 KB, 604x729, 1231299281119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Saya's cuteness is a miracle of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:36:00 2009 No.1880070 I find it funny that there are still H-scenes after the (somewhat obvious) twist. Surely they don't expect me to fap to it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:36:00 2009 No.1880072 >>1880070 You mean you didn't fap harder?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:39:54 2009 No.1880086 >>1880070 I didn't even fap to the first ones. Just didn't feel the urge. Granted I did get an erection with the Yoh scenes but I refused to do anything about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 03:40:29 2009 No.1880090 >>1880009 It is, there was a thread about it earlier. So for anyone else. SAYA NO UTA TRANSLATION IS COMPLETE GET THE BETA: http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Saya_no_Uta

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:36:22 2009 No.1880600 File: 95 KB, 806x626, 1231306582846.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He'd beat shiki.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:37:05 2009 No.1880610 >>1880602 Is crossposting so wrong?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:37:09 2009 No.1880602 >>1879955 Oh hey, it's escalator.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:37:12 2009 No.1880603 File: 73 KB, 806x626, 1231306632172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He'd beat shiki

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:39:32 2009 No.1880618 >>1880610 No, just didn't expect to see it I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:41:38 2009 No.1880625 File: 649 KB, 806x626, 1231306898124.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is your font so ugly, OP?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:44:32 2009 No.1880639 I'm loving this game. Obvious twist is obvious but still so deliciously satisfying. I won't be able to rest until I see all (4?) endings

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:45:33 2009 No.1880643 >>1880639 Three, actually.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:47:58 2009 No.1880654

It was AWESOME. Sadly, since I have absolutely nothing better to do of my life, I found it too short. Back to F5ing /jp/ now, I guess.

>>1880639
What twist? Saya is a tentacle monster? Because if so, it really wasn't a twist at all... honestly, SnU is pretty straightforward.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:48:46 2009 No.1880662 File: 42 KB, 806x632, 1231307326861.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's like I'm really playing Tsukihime

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:48:58 2009 No.1880661 all three ends are bad ends

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:50:39 2009 No.1880671 >>1880661 How? Who gives a shit about human civilization? If Saya lives on, then it's a good end. Asylum end is a bit sad for poor little Saya, but really nothing bad. There's only one bad end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:53:33 2009 No.1880687 >>1880671 Saya dies after germination

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:54:13 2009 No.1880688 >>1880687 What? No she doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:56:26 2009 No.1880695 >>1880688 She does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 05:58:06 2009 No.1880705 >>1880671 >Who gives a shit about... I do

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:00:28 2009 No.1880711 >>1880687 >>1880695 1. Saya says it's only the beginning and her pain instantly disappears. It's not stated anywhere that they die when they reproduce. 2. Ryonko refers to their marriage at the very end. She really doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:01:37 2009 No.1880717 >>1880711 She really does, though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:05:10 2009 No.1880733 >>1880717 She doesn't

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:07:38 2009 No.1880740 >>1880733 She totally does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:10:38 2009 No.1880749 >>1880687 >>1880695 >>1880717 >>1880740 SPAWHBTC

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:13:38 2009 No.1880764 Whether or not Saya dies in the Blooming doesn't really matter. It's the only possible way for Saya and Fuminori to be "together forever," even if only metaphorically. It's the happiest possible ending.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:16:34 2009 No.1880771 >>1880764 They die together in one of the ends, and that's like being together forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:18:21 2009 No.1880777 >>1880771 But why bother with a "sad" being together forever when you can have a "happy" being together forever?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:19:55 2009 No.1880786 so where do i dl the game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:20:40 2009 No.1880788 >>1880786 I hear the Internet is a good place to start

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:20:40 2009 No.1880789 >>1880771 I agree, which is why I prefer that end to the first end. However, the Blooming is better because Saya fulfills her purpose and has children with Fuminori, thereby achieving a certain kind of immortality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:22:01 2009 No.1880799 What's the game about?

>>	Tatari !JERKwzbfbg Wed Jan 7 06:22:30 2009 No.1880797 >>1880786 Back in my days, we weren't so helpless. We found whatever we wanted on 56k internet and we didn't even have google.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:23:22 2009 No.1880802 What is Saya about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:24:01 2009 No.1880806 >>1880799 guy gets into an accident that makes him see everything as lumps of gore, then he meets saya who is the only one that looks like normal human being, cannibalism ensues.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:24:08 2009 No.1880803 >>1880799 >>1880802 A VN about brain surgery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:26:20 2009 No.1880808 >>1880799 >>1880802 Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:28:19 2009 No.1880812 >>1880808 Oh, great, now I've lost a bunch of sanity from reading that. Be right back, hospitalizing myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:31:10 2009 No.1880818 >>1880806 What's the VN with Gore Screaming Show in it about, then? If I recall, it had a similar premise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:31:11 2009 No.1880819 >>1880818 A VN about chasing a girl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:33:02 2009 No.1880820 >>1880818 >What's the VN with Gore Screaming Show in it You mean Gore Screaming Show?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:37:54 2009 No.1880824 >>1880820 ...What?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:39:16 2009 No.1880831 >>1880820 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:39:52 2009 No.1880832 >>1880818 Except Gore Screaming Show isn't as good as Saya.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:42:03 2009 No.1880839 >>1880824 Gore Screaming Show is a character in the VN of the same name.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:43:49 2009 No.1880841 >>1880839 Ohh. Had no idea. Thanks much.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 07:21:34 2009 No.1880937
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>>1880799
>>1880802

It's about a love.

No, really.

>>1880771

This is what I understood too. No matter what they could have done, they could not have been together in the old world. I took it as that they both die when Saya releases her spores. That way, the new world is the gift of their wedding - regardless of if they live to see it's effects.

But as noted in an earlier thread here, Saya seemed to absorb information at an impressive rate. Assuming her children would behave in a manner remotely similar, they would surely absorb the culture and achievements of humanity in whole. Thus, what was really lost?

>>1880688

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 07:48:15 2009 No.1880982 >>1880937 I am pretty sure that the way the game is designed makes it impossible for you not to sympathize with Saya not to care little about human civilization at least in that setting.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!mGXYMm0qKk/ Wed Jan 7 08:02:39 2009 No.1881007 >>1880982 I was still for humanity, mostly due to Ryouko's badassness.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:04:47 2009 No.1881010

>>1880982

Do you mean:
1) Makes it impossible not to sympathize with Saya and only have little concern about human civilization.
2) Makes it impossible not to sympathize with Saya - not meaning you would care little about human civilization.
?

I'm assuming 2)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:10:46 2009 No.1881025 Fuck you /jp/. I just went down to grab a bite to eat. Couldn't eat anything remembering this game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:13:02 2009 No.1881030 >>1881010 my bad, I actually meant 1. The story makes me kinda feel that what Fuminori got was not an abnormal sight, but sort of a real sight, seeing human as what they really are deep inside. Thus Yoh is not as horrible as that faggot friend etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:16:07 2009 No.1881032 File: 70 KB, 800x600, 1231316167960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881025 Lost your appetite?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:19:33 2009 No.1881038 Most fucking awesome visual novel ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:21:03 2009 No.1881039 File: 261 KB, 639x480, 1231316463783.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bah. Waiting for twenty whole minutes for the text to load... the game starts up, and STILL NO TEXT. Fuck this shit, I'm going back to Let's Meow Meow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:23:51 2009 No.1881044 I think I'm the only guy that actually hates Saya and Fuminori. What's up with that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:26:02 2009 No.1881052 >>1881044 I kind of hate Fuminori. I can understand Saya, but Fuminori was just a fucking bastard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:28:42 2009 No.1881062 >>1881039 Good job missing the most awesome visual novel ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:31:04 2009 No.1881075 >>1881062 It's not MY fault. I had it already on the lappy and I went ahead and installed the new stuff. Waited twenty fucking minutes and I see the opening pic... NO TEXT. It was like that even WITHOUT the English script. It sucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:32:19 2009 No.1881078 >>1881075 >I don't use Japanese region settings, I am a faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:32:44 2009 No.1881079 >>1881052 Is it because she's cute? I don't see it. They both did the same things. Fuminori lost his mind, what's her excuse?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:33:48 2009 No.1881083 >>1881078 Well, how the fuck am I supposed to know THAT?! You think I can read Japanese?! Or is there an instruction booklet?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:34:34 2009 No.1881085 >>1881079 It's not unethical to kill lower life forms. Like how people can crush flies without being called evil.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:35:26 2009 No.1881086 >>1881044 This. Saya has a sort of twisted innocence and purity about her. Fuminori is just an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:35:50 2009 No.1881088 >>1881083 >One, that this isn't confirmed to work on anything except Windows XP in Japanese locale. Did you read the wiki you downloaded it from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:36:19 2009 No.1881090 >>1881085 This is going nowhere fast.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:36:19 2009 No.1881092 >>1881052 This. Saya has sort of a twisted innocence and purity about her. Fuminori is just an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:37:01 2009 No.1881100 >>1881083 HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:37:25 2009 No.1881096 >>1881088 Grrr... I run Windows 2000... it's all I got. Dammit. Someone should Youtube this story or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:40:52 2009 No.1881112 >>1881092 What are you gonna do if you see the world like he does, other than killing yourself that is.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed Jan 7 08:43:57 2009 No.1881120 Well, I guess it's a nice change of pace from the usual "how do I install Fate/stay night?" threads. In before Saya thread /jp/ spam.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:49:08 2009 No.1881133

>>1881112
Had I been in his shoes, once I realized what Saya was and what she was capable of doing, I would have killed her and then myself. Once you get to the point around the whole Yoh affair(or even earlier with the painter) that becomes pretty much the only honorable course of action.

Granted, when the push comes to shove, whether I would have the will to follow through with this is arguable, but I certainly wouldn't have so hurriedly thrown away my humanity for some corrupted notion of love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:50:16 2009 No.1881134 >>1881133 Whats so good about the human race anyway?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:51:15 2009 No.1881135 >>1881096 Have you tried installing it on Win2k first? All he said was that he had tested it on XP only.

Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 08:52:53 2009 No.1881139
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>>1881133

Whats so 'corrupt' about it? Twisted, yes, but considering we're dealing with a man who can only see horror and a Cthulhu-esque monster it'd be impossible for it not to be.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:56:22 2009 No.1881150

>>1881134
Misanthropy is a viewpoint which I will never be able to understand. I don't like being around people either, but to reject all the beauty that has sprung from us as a race is absurd.
>>1881139
Love should not be a thing that is expressed through malice and destruction. The whole point here is that they took something beautiful and turned it into something ugly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:57:03 2009 No.1881154 fuminori did best, in his option. World sux, and saya was only purpose to live. Yes i'd kill any human for her. but i doubt he knew about what sort of children saya bears

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:57:43 2009 No.1881153 >>1881150 I love you.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 08:58:46 2009 No.1881155

>>1881150
>Love should not be a thing that is expressed through malice and destruction.
Are you some kind of hippy faggot?

>The whole point here is that they took something beautiful and turned it into something ugly.
Who are you to judge what love is to others when you haven't been loved yourself, Anonymous!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:00:00 2009 No.1881162 >but to reject all the beauty that has sprung from us as a race is absurd. HAHAHAHAHAHA. and humanity wasnt destroyed, it just evoluted

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:00:52 2009 No.1881161

>>1881133
so you can kill the only human you can see in a monstrous world, and a little girl nonetheless, just because it's supposed to be right?
that seem pretty heartless to me. besides, there's no way you can know, other than from thinking it out. it's gonna be so not worth it.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:02:03 2009 No.1881165

>>1881155
>Are you some kind of hippy faggot?
Heh, just a romantic I guess.
To be honest, I think the ending where Fuminori ends up in the insane asylum is a good, albeit tragic, example of what I think love should be like.

>Who are you to judge what love is to others when you haven't been loved yourself, Anonymous!
I guess you've got me there. But on the other hand I am quite familiar with love of the unrequited variety, so at least there's that.

;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:04:22 2009 No.1881168 >>1881150 >Bawww i love human race more then myself

Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 09:05:17 2009 No.1881171

>>1881150

>Love should not be a thing that is expressed through malice and destruction.

Malice and destruction against each other, yes. Malice and destruction against 'monsters', why not?

>The whole point here is that they took something beautiful and turned it into something ugly.

How so? Their relationship, the feelings they had for one another, were perhaps the purest and most sincere I've ever seen. The fact that they treated the rest of the world as their enemy doesn't somehow diminish or tarnish their love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:05:24 2009 No.1881172 >>1881168 And here I thought that would be admirable. Oh, well. Like I said, it's going nowhere fast.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:07:12 2009 No.1881180 >>1881172 only if you were a girl, anon. VN moeblob or something.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:07:34 2009 No.1881182

Saya made humanity better in the good end.

We were changed to be able handle reality for what it really is. Without the weak bindings of humanity we will be able begin exploration of extra dimensions just like Saya's sister's are capable of. All of human culture and history will be saved in this new form and made better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:07:50 2009 No.1881183 "Right" and "wrong" have no place in discussions about Saya. It is a perfectly amoral story.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:09:17 2009 No.1881185 >>1881161 If he doesn't kill her or separate from her, he just ends up twisting her. I mean, by being around him Saya goes from relative purity to a fucking monster.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:12:13 2009 No.1881195 >>1881185 not really, they just had to get out of city and friends in the start, not when they killed bunch of meatbags

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:12:50 2009 No.1881196 >>1881185 Did you even play the game? Fuji gives Saya true love and happiness. Even before she meet Fuji she had eaten a human baby so it's not like he exposed her to killing humans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:15:19 2009 No.1881205 >>1881183 I'll drink to that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:15:35 2009 No.1881208 >>1881196 theres no prove that she eat him. As before i insists, saya escaped of hurting humans as much as possible.

>>	Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 09:18:47 2009 No.1881221 >>1881208 Haha, sorry, but no. Saya makes reference a couple of times to previous hunts. Once she mentions a park where she used to hunt 'small ones', and after killing Oumi she tells Fuminori that it has been awhile since she got a 'big one'.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:19:31 2009 No.1881226

>>1881208
Does the game really need to spell it out for you? After going on about the missing cats, frightened patients, and then the missing baby you still refuse to believe she ate the infant? Saya never had a problem eating humans and the only reason she didn't proactively hunt adults is because they are dangerous. Notice how she always tried to get the jump on people (Koji, Omi, the painter guy) when attacking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:19:57 2009 No.1881228 >>1881221 hmm thats right, i forgot about it. But anyway who knows what was with her that time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:21:09 2009 No.1881236 >>1881221 Small ones = cats/dogs. You know, the ones that were mysteriously disappearing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:21:15 2009 No.1881237 >>1881221 To be fair, it's implied she eats small mammals and birds. That being said, however, it's also implied she ate a newborn baby. That's right, Saya eats babies. And she enjoys it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:21:51 2009 No.1881239 You don't have to agree with what any of the characters did. If you can understand them, that's enough.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:22:57 2009 No.1881243

>>1881226
she had no problem with eating them, but not killing, i guess erostuff her "papa" gave to her made her think about humans not that much trash. She killed oumi becase she was surprised at first, and it was dangerous let her see other rooms. Kouji on other way attacked her beloved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:23:03 2009 No.1881244 >>1881239 I'll drink to that, as well. Here, here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:24:50 2009 No.1881253 >>1881243 Ummm so eating a new born infant does not equal killing. Okay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:26:01 2009 No.1881263 >>1881239 I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing differing interpretations, though. Regardless, I thoroughly enjoyed this game. I have to wonder why a gem like this wasn't translated sooner.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:26:32 2009 No.1881261

>>1881030 what Fuminori got was not an abnormal sight, but sort of a real sight, seeing human as what they really are deep inside.

Good point, but kind of clashes on how all inanimate objects are transformed too, instead of just humans.

It's clearly stated in-game, that the story draws inspiration from a similar segment in Tezuka's Phoenix, however, I'd like to draw a reference to Dreams in the Witch-House (I had to reread it just now). The whole text is available here:
http://www.yankeeclassic.com/miskatonic/library/stacks/literature/lovecraft/novellas/dreamswitc.htm

For the sake of this discussion, I shall quote the essential excerpt:
"In the deeper dreams everything was likewise more distinct, and Gilman felt that the twilight abysses around him were those of the fourth dimension. Those organic entities whose motions seemed least flagrantly irrelevant and unmotivated were probably projections of life-forms from our own planet, including human beings. What the others were in their own dimensional sphere or spheres he dared not try to think."

The story tells about an university student, convinced that research into the mathematics and greater understanding may grant the ability to progress 'beyond' our three-dimensional world and emerge anywhere else in the universe after stepping back down. At night, he's plagued by visions and visitations by an old crone and a hideous creature bearing resemblance to a rat that take him to terrifying places, doing sinister things parallel to the real world in the city of Arkham.

With all the Lovecraft references abound, it's not hard to see some nods towards this text, assuming which, the main character could somehow see beyond our world, to entities inhabiting it just beyond human recognition.

Think what you will. But I bet this VN has all the other HPL fans silently smiling too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:26:44 2009 No.1881262 >>1881253 maybe she was starving, who knows

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:30:25 2009 No.1881277 >>1881261 The direct reference to the Silver Key was awesome. Also in the lab the screen that hid the body of Saya's father had a "octopoid" creature printed on it. Hmmm what Lovecraftian Eldritch entity could this be?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:32:01 2009 No.1881283 >>1881221 >>1881226 Yeah, but you can't really fault Saya for her nature. What she did to Yoh, however, carried a blatant sadistic intent that was previously not part of her character.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:32:07 2009 No.1881284 >>1881262 Starving makes it okay to eat a baby? Just accept Saya thinks people are tasty. She is still lovable as always and in the good end what she does for humanity is great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:34:55 2009 No.1881296 >>1881283 She was fighting over her man so the sadism is purely female intent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:35:47 2009 No.1881299 >>1881284 My 'good end' is the one where Koji kills Saya But that's just me.

Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 09:35:47 2009 No.1881301

>>1881283

Eh? Saya originally appeared in the world to transform it by subverting the dominant species into creatures like her. Yoh was an experiment to this end, which perfectly fits her personality. The only reason Saya never bothered doing such things before is because there was no point without the love the Fuminori provided.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:36:03 2009 No.1881303

>>1881284
baby was first, who she taste, how could she know? Well yeah, human are, as i said, she could not kill them(or she would haunt homeless) , but not to eat, since dead body is just free meat
>>1881283
well yoh had crush on fuminori and saya knew it, so she did almost perfect in this case

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:36:59 2009 No.1881308 File: 429 KB, 213x201, 1231321019498.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881299 Your good end is bad and you should feel bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:37:24 2009 No.1881311 >>1881301 why would you spend 20 hours to melt somebody, when you can just BOOM and all is done?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:38:00 2009 No.1881314 >>1881308 Yeah, I feel bad. For Koji.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:39:02 2009 No.1881320 >>1881315 arent spores "a little" diffrent nature from melting?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:39:05 2009 No.1881315 >>1881311 Needed practice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:40:34 2009 No.1881323 >>1881296 Yeah, but that's the point. It's Fuminori's presence that causes her to act this way. >>1881301 It's made quite clear that Saya enjoys Yoh's suffering.

Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 09:40:34 2009 No.1881325

>>1881311

But she can't do that. Partly because it was her first time, and partly because thats not the way it works. I imagine that in the end it would have taken a period of hours for most people to transform, with only a few rare cases like the doctor able to resist the change for longer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:41:20 2009 No.1881328 >>1881311 So when you BOOM you do it right instead of breaking everyone's minds and making them useless animals. Thanks to what she did to Yoh we have the new species reveling in the streets (Or that is how Ryōko describes it as she slowly changes).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:43:02 2009 No.1881332 >>1881323 >It's made quite clear that Saya enjoys Yoh's suffering. i did too. is this bad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:43:24 2009 No.1881334 >>1881323 In fact Fuminori himself describes it as sadistic. Doesn't mean she was a pure non-baby eating saint before meeting good ol' Fumi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:43:43 2009 No.1881336 >>1881332 You did good son. You did good.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:43:43 2009 No.1881337

Well if you really look at it, Fuminori is the villain of the story. Hes the one who actualy is the catalyst for everything that happens.
But if I was Fuminori and had that happen to me I would Love Saya and even If I knew and saw her for what she really was I would still love her the same for in both cases you know who she is really. A lost and lonly little girl looking for someone to care for her. I wouldnt hesitate to give up my humanity and sanity for her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:45:21 2009 No.1881347 >>1881337 pedo

Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 09:45:26 2009 No.1881348

>>1881323

Undoubtably Saya did, in the same way that a child will find the agonised writhings of a tortured insect amusing. You have to remember, Saya isn't human. She doesn't consider us (excepting Fuminori, and perhaps her Papa) as equal or particularly worthy of notice. No matter how much of our culture she absorbs, no matter how 'human' her mind might become, she will always be... whatever she is, at heart. Its simply part of her nature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:45:55 2009 No.1881351 >>1881332 Well, yeah. Sort of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:46:28 2009 No.1881353 The true hero of the story is Ougai. He's so fucking awesome.

>>	Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. Wed Jan 7 09:46:45 2009 No.1881355 File: 139 KB, 800x600, 1231321605736.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881311 She was taking it easy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:47:03 2009 No.1881360 >>1881355 Get the fuck out of here, jackass.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:49:19 2009 No.1881366

>>1881334
This was the first time Saya is shown enjoying the suffering of others. Maybe she did earlier, who knows, but from what we're given and how she is presented earlier in the novel, I think it's a valid conclusion that Fuminori acted as a source of corruption for her.

>>	Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. Wed Jan 7 09:51:17 2009 No.1881373 File: 123 KB, 480x480, 1231321877057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881360 No, I will save /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:51:21 2009 No.1881372 >>1881366 She got her kicks by scaring patients in the psych ward back when she lived in the hospital. Yeah, I wasn't surprised by how she turned out.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:52:29 2009 No.1881377

>>1881366
Ummm Is it just me but I got the impression that for the most part she didnt really fucking care about the suffering of others except for Fuminori. The only examples I remeber is her enjoying the suffering of Yoh which is related to her feelings about Yoh trying to steal her mate away from her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:52:35 2009 No.1881378 >>1881372 you woudnt be bored lurking in hospital for a months?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:54:42 2009 No.1881382 >>1881378 I don't think I'd be going around scaring people with fragile minds. The point is not why she did it but that she did indeed do it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:55:00 2009 No.1881388 Saya is a sadistic lovecraftian eldritch horror from beyond time and space. That is what makes her so lovely.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:56:33 2009 No.1881389 >>1881382 >I don't think I'd be going around scaring people with fragile minds. Why not? That sounds hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 09:56:57 2009 No.1881392 >>1881382 you surely like people much more than me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:00:02 2009 No.1881411 >>1881382 You forget how lonely she was.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:00:09 2009 No.1881404

>>1881372
You can't honestly be comparing this to prolonged physical and psychological torture. If anything, these pranks established her childish nature and made her seem more harmless.
>>1881377
Yes, but even then, she is still acting in a way that is more monstrous than she was before. Given the structure of the story, I'd like to think the whole Yoh affair carried more weight than just a cheapening excuse for an H-scene.
Of course I might just be reading too deeply into things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:04:17 2009 No.1881414 >>1881404 >You can't honestly Yes, I can.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:05:26 2009 No.1881417 thank you /jp/, now i release that i hate ordinary human as much as fuminori does. Well i love saya as much as his does too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:08:56 2009 No.1881421 This such a beautiful story about how fate pulls together two people whos worlds have fallen apart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:10:49 2009 No.1881424 >>1881417 Saya is so Moe

>>	【ぅﾛ'）っ !.7guNyaNyA!!NcWKWBpVO+3 Wed Jan 7 10:22:17 2009 No.1881448 Fuck humanity; I'm with Saya.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:24:31 2009 No.1881454 >>1881261 is that because those things are man-made? I kind of remember that trees and forests seem okay in the wild?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:26:38 2009 No.1881457 >>1881454 You never saw the forest from Fuminori's perspective, so of course it would look normal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:27:16 2009 No.1881460 >>1881454 Actually, no. The trees, the mountains, and the sky all look like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:28:36 2009 No.1881463 >>1881457 >You never saw the forest from Fuminori's perspective Actually, you do. If only for a brief instant. Check it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:29:44 2009 No.1881467 >>1881454 >>1881457 Actually after pushing Koji down the well Fuminori goes through the forest on the way home. It shows the trees as horridly composed of flesh as everything else.

>>	The Truth !!7ICQjK9faGh Wed Jan 7 10:33:01 2009 No.1881472 I just stopped playing after the cannabalism scene. I sat staring at the monitor for 15 minutes and said out loud, "no fucking way"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:34:00 2009 No.1881473 >>1881472 >no fucking way Way. Just keep on reading. And yes, WAY.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:36:51 2009 No.1881478 >>1881472 If I could reach through the monitor and slap you in the face right now I would, because you're missing a great VN and the best VN I've ever played. Then again, I haven't played many VN's

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:37:09 2009 No.1881482 >>1881472 Failed your sanity check?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:39:06 2009 No.1881486 she is a little bit childish and straightforward, but that part is actually very humane. I also like how her real voice sounds like :3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:41:38 2009 No.1881488 in after newfags and young typemoon fags getting their hands on this game. "OH NO WAY BRO THIS GAME IS CRAZYYY WAHT THE HELL xDDD "

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:42:09 2009 No.1881490 Is this better than Umineko. I'm not playing if it's not worth my time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:43:36 2009 No.1881493 >>1881488 Well, I don't think a lot of people can stomach this. Not everybody is into horror.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:43:59 2009 No.1881495 >>1881490 Pretty much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:44:06 2009 No.1881500 >>1881493 oh because this game is so terrifying.

The Truth !!7ICQjK9faGh Wed Jan 7 10:44:20 2009 No.1881497

>>1881482
Im not saying its a bad game. It has excellente writing, or a excellent translation or both, compared to half of all the other visual novels I've read.

The only thing comparable in quality is the higurashi translation.

But yeah...just...a bit over the top there for me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:46:20 2009 No.1881506 >>1881500 horror and terror are two different things. And, yes. This VN is certainly horrifying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:46:31 2009 No.1881509 File: 275 KB, 800x600, 1231325191673.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881472 SAYA, WHAT ARE YOU EATING?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:46:43 2009 No.1881510 >>1881493 If you finished FSN before you already tasted the true horror, Saya no Uta is a breeze compared to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:48:17 2009 No.1881515 File: 136 KB, 800x600, 1231325297525.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881509 SAYA, WHAT ARE YOU EATING?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:48:31 2009 No.1881516 >>1881506 Only if you're some underage fag that watched Scream with your school friends for the first time last week.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:48:44 2009 No.1881517 >>1881506 Do you mean that in a good way or a bad way?

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:50:33 2009 No.1881519

>>1881490
Saya No uta is worth playing, if you dont like it you can quit and do something else. The story is very intrigueing and unlike some other visual novels the games pretty short I belive at around 5hours in length. The game has some rather disturbing material but its all part of teh story. The H Scenes are its weakest point because the game would still be great without them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:53:23 2009 No.1881526 I dedicate this thread and the minds of all its participants who are experinceing the game, To Saya.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:54:12 2009 No.1881529 >>1881517 In a neutral way. Although I'll tell you that I enjoyed it very much despite being more than a little disturbed. Or maybe it's partially because I was more than a little disturbed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:56:07 2009 No.1881536 Saya, Saya, she's so sweet~ Saya, Saya she loves meat~

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:56:29 2009 No.1881537 holy fuck this game is hardcore I never played something like this before gore fuck yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:57:33 2009 No.1881543 File: 80 KB, 350x366, 1231325853033.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1881536 It has such a pleasant aroma.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:58:52 2009 No.1881546 >>1881537 All the deaths happen off camera, interestingly enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 10:59:15 2009 No.1881547 >>1880625 How do you change the font?

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed Jan 7 11:03:53 2009 No.1881559

Saya no Uta: not so good (on horror). Saya is too moe anyways.

I guess that was my main complaint with this game. I came in expecting some great VN horror, but it didn't deliver there. It was still a good read though, which I guess is all that really matters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:04:45 2009 No.1881564 >>1881559 Fuck off troll.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:04:56 2009 No.1881565 >>1881536 who doesnt?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:10:49 2009 No.1881590 Man, I'm really on the border as to whether or not to play this game. It seems so disturbing on one hand, but also very unique and intriguing. I feel that something in me might break if I play this ;_:.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:12:36 2009 No.1881600 >>1881590 Oh, don't mind me. I'm just very easily disturbed. You should give it a shot, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:13:05 2009 No.1881606 >>1881590 Just man up and play it, friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:13:34 2009 No.1881608 >>1881590 It's definitely worth a play through. Go for it, Anon. I mean, since you're posting here, how much more broken can you get?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:14:44 2009 No.1881611 >>1881606 Hhh, I think I'll give it a pass for now. I'll wait until the final release and then test my courage again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:18:33 2009 No.1881625 >>1881600 See alot of people I show this game too as well as talk about it too tell me to stop. I think most people cant handle this games imagery and descriptions. There are really alot of sheltered people out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:19:14 2009 No.1881630 Just finished the last ending, god damn this VN is great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:19:40 2009 No.1881634 you can always choose not to see the gore, if that helps....

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:23:15 2009 No.1881663 This game is NOT scary, for gods sake guys. Are you 13 or something?

>>	Ausnonymous Wed Jan 7 11:23:15 2009 No.1881665 >>1881625 Not so much that they're sheltered as it is that we've been overly exposed to various disturbing things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:29:10 2009 No.1881695 Saya no Uta was one of the most beautiful games ever. It's like fucking art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:31:24 2009 No.1881704 Any of you niggers have a torrent with more than 1 seed?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:33:30 2009 No.1881711 >>1881695 more like newfags are easily impressed in b4 this shit happening in every /jp/ Saya thread

>>	deleted Wed Jan 7 11:34:15 2009 No.1881715 >>1881663 Not so much for the fright than for the disturbing and depressing theme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:42:17 2009 No.1881729 >>1881704 There's only one Saya no Uta game result on isohunt, and it has 50.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:44:09 2009 No.1881736 it's not even THAT good

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:44:36 2009 No.1881732 >>1881729 I found it on /rs/ anyway, I should've just checked there to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 11:53:03 2009 No.1881751 >>1881715 It's not disturbing either. I never though /jp/ was a bunch of pussies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 12:12:52 2009 No.1881821 >>1881590 Being absolutely honest here. Something in me DID break while reading it. This game decreases your sanity. There's no way I can have back the time when I had not read it. And I'd kind of want to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 12:19:52 2009 No.1881843 >This game decreases your sanity. Moral not equel to sanity. Moral actually makes you weaker. So enjoy, weak part of you died

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 12:34:52 2009 No.1881893 >>1881506 Horror and terror are terror and horror

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 13:09:56 2009 No.1882009

Slowfag here, I just finished this I think... Are there really only those 3 endings? Goddamn, I finished this in like 4 hours. That's kind of pushing the boundaries of shortness, but I have to admit, I haven't played a huge list of VNs.

Still, it had an eerie sort of beauty to it. Something in my mind broke a little.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 14:44:13 2009 No.1882301 Reading Saya no Uta was quite enjoyable. I haven't really treated it as a horror VN, and it didn't really appear that frightening, if you keep in mind Fukamori's perspective and Saya's goals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 15:47:17 2009 No.1882444 This game is a moral killer...I feel like part of my sanity has slipped away from me... and goddamn does it feel good. Also am I the only one playing "Song of Saya" on infinite loop in my music player?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 15:55:17 2009 No.1882466 >>1882444 I'm playing "Shoes of Glass" and "Silent Sorrow" too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 16:02:28 2009 No.1882474 How do I split the text files to make the script file load faster?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 17:39:39 2009 No.1882783 >>1882474 Wait until Editing/TLC is complete, you'll also get a font fix/other bugfixes for those in the wrong locale.

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