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DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #1905 Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:36:08 2018 No.18752077 [Reply] [Original]

This is a thread for Japanese learners to discuss learning methods, seek help with things they don't understand, and generally talk about the Japanese language. There are also threads on /int/: >>>/int/djt.

Guide and learning resources (please read before asking questions):
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>18730275
Archive of past threads: >>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_subject=Daily+Japanese+Thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:37:35 2018 No.18752082 1st for poop thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:37:40 2018 No.18752084 theres already a thread moron

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:39:16 2018 No.18752094 File: 366 KB, 1605x1006, 1514709425363.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18752084 The other thread is a troll thread made by a repeat ban evader.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:40:21 2018 No.18752097 >>18752051 >download? mostly itunes im not a pirate dude >itunes shame on you anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:40:54 2018 No.18752101 why aren't you fluent yet, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:41:13 2018 No.18752105 >>18752094 janitors shouldn't be in the business of picking winning and losing threads in the first place

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:42:22 2018 No.18752108 >>18752101 Because I spend all my free time fighting waging internet battles alongside my discord buddies instead of studying Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:47:31 2018 No.18752131 >>18752097 for web only releases thats typically what they put them up on i usually buy the physical media

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:51:21 2018 No.18752148 >>18752131 >i usually buy the physical media I wished I lived there...shipping+taxes are just too high

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:53:06 2018 No.18752166 >>18752101 The same reason I'm not fluent in English. You don't just become a fluent speaker from reading all the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 20:55:46 2018 No.18752186 >>18752101 There's a lot of foreign vocabulary to learn. For example I only recently learned that 鰊 is herring, just because I had herring for dinner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:00:15 2018 No.18752209 は　ｖｓ　が how do you know what one to use?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:00:54 2018 No.18752212 >>18752209 i just do

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:01:12 2018 No.18752213 >>18752209 Crazy idea, but, use は when it makes sense, and use が when it makes sense. When both make sense, use the one that makes more sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:01:14 2018 No.18752214 >>18752209 わたしはゲイわたしがゲイ 2 very different things being said

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:02:59 2018 No.18752219

>having fun reading VN
>come across a vocab I don't know
>know the general purpose of the sentence, but want to put new vocab in the deck
Ugghhh I hate not knowing Japanese, I just want to read more of these disgustingly adorable teens and their cute romance.

On the other hand, more words! Good, wholesome, words, too. Arrgh

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:08:25 2018 No.18752256 >>18752105 no but they're certainly in the business of keeping the board from being flooded with duplicate generals fuck off

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:11:48 2018 No.18752267 >>18752219 It takes one keypress or click to add a word.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:14:10 2018 No.18752282 >>18752256 >no but they're certainly in the business of keeping the board from being flooded with duplicate generals well, this is the duplicate general now, so no doubt someone will come along and clean it up

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:14:39 2018 No.18752286 >>18752267 Does it? You must have a more effective system than I do, then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:14:42 2018 No.18752287 >>18752282 yes i already did my due diligence to aid in this process

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:15:29 2018 No.18752293 >>18752214 I am gay vs I am a gay person?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:20:42 2018 No.18752325 >>18752219 anon, you should quit talking like a faggot first...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:21:48 2018 No.18752333 >>18752325 Haha, fair enough. It's just what I'm feeling at that moment. Won't do it again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:22:17 2018 No.18752338 How many reviews do you guys have on an average day for core? Or on any other big deck you have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:22:51 2018 No.18752343 >>18752219 cool dude nice >>18752293 sorry its kind of unfair to put those two things side by side in that way ill give you something more manageable 俺がナンバーワンだ俺はナンバーワンだ >>18752325 i like fags

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:23:27 2018 No.18752351 >>18752333 I forgive you, cause you're cute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:23:41 2018 No.18752357 >>18752286 I use the system in the guide.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:28:15 2018 No.18752382 >>18752282 >>18752282 the other thread got created 9 hours ago quit defending it

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:32:11 2018 No.18752401

>>18752357
Do you mean the system outlined in the "Visual Novel" section of the "DJT Resource Guide" part? I'd always assume that would copy the entire text of the game as I played it (auto-scrolling). I only need to copy a certain line or word, so I usually just go to the text hooker and copy the line/word that I need, then paste it to anki.

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:37:25 2018 No.18752430

>>18752338
~50 on core, but that’s not a big deck for me.
My all-purpose mining deck (which has since become a disposal deck for vocab I don’t need to learn any time soon) has been at ~180 per day for a while now. I hope to lower it down to at most ~120 per day, but contradictorily I also need to kill the enormous backlog of unseen cards, which is why I custom-study a bunch of new cards on a whim so often, which is why cards per day is so high.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:37:43 2018 No.18752431 >>18752401 I mean the set-up in the Anki Start-up Guide with Yomichan (actually Rikaisama for me) to automatically make the cards. Using the visual novel thing you mentioned would also be good because it takes another step out of the process.

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:43:58 2018 No.18752483

>>18752431
Ooh.

I opened up the Anki Start-up Guide and got up to the "Step 8: Learn" part and just assume that's it, with the rest being really pernickety stuff like managing fonts or something. So I never read further. I should have done it!

Thanks, anon, I'll try that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:49:41 2018 No.18752520 >>18752101 because the threads are splited

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:50:46 2018 No.18752526 >>18752520 >splited Might wanna learn English first

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:51:18 2018 No.18752530 >>18752526 spotted the esl

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 21:53:19 2018 No.18752542 >>18752520 >>18752530 Yeah, the proper perfect form for 'split' is 'splait'. Or "splayited' in some English dialects. English and their irregular verbs, eh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:02:16 2018 No.18752585 File: 76 KB, 600x756, 1515297917299.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh boy here comes the rep train.

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:06:40 2018 No.18752605

Alright, I reached the point in VN where the two main characters kiss. The hardest thing to understand are the explanations for certain things, like how to handle ankle sprains or how to clean a bathroom. But I got there! They kissed. Took like twice as long, but still, I got there.

Next up is the domain I'm comfortable with: sex scenes in Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:08:07 2018 No.18752615 File: 314 KB, 446x700, 1500015745675.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just did 150 new cards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:11:16 2018 No.18752626 >>18752615 Did you reach your target?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:12:17 2018 No.18752629 >>18752626 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:13:31 2018 No.18752636 >>18752629 Keep on keeping on, then, anon. Drink some more of that stuff if you need to, but reach that goal. Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:13:56 2018 No.18752639 >>18752585 someone should edit this. i might even

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:17:10 2018 No.18752655 >そして長いキスの後、俺たちはようやく唇を離した。二人の唾液が細い糸でお互いを繋ぐ. >唾液が細い糸でお互いを繋ぐ >唾液が細い糸 Is there a pixiv tag for this sort of thing? I want to see more art of this dirty stuff. I don't even know the name for this in English.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:19:35 2018 No.18752669 >>18752615 >>18752629 You're not the 400 new cards per day guy, are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:21:15 2018 No.18752683 >>18752669 Nope. 150 is my highest so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:32:49 2018 No.18752743 >>18752655 the pixiv tag is 糸引き

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:39:12 2018 No.18752770 File: 644 KB, 781x1000, 51272422_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18752655 >>18752743 Also found 唾液ブリッジ

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 22:45:16 2018 No.18752807 >>18752743 >>18752770 Fuck yes. Thanks, anon! Lots of gay shit in there and some aren't due to kissing, but still, lots of pictures.

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:01:32 2018 No.18752887

New to learning Japanese, I know Hiragana and Katakana and not a lot of words. How do I get through the Core2k/6k when I get blocked by every word, is there a step I'm missing before hand? Should I be doing this in conjunction with my reading? (borrowed a friend's copy of Yotsuba!)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:07:49 2018 No.18752916 >>18752887 >How do I get through the Core2k/6k when I get blocked by every word What?

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:09:50 2018 No.18752927

>>18752887
It depends on what is easier to learn for you, it's hard to give one specific answer that will always be the best for everyone. You may want to look into a individual kanji deck along with Core2k, so you get a more detailed grasp at each of the basic kanji that are used to build up the most basic words. It may slow you down a bit, but that's better than getting stuck forever and just giving up.

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:16:55 2018 No.18752961

I'm having trouble understanding ここ, そこ, and あそこ when used with どこ.
ここはどこですか i get because it'd be similar to saying "where am i?" or "where are we?"
そこはどこですか would then be like asking where a place is that someone is talking about
but i have no idea about あそこはどこですか

maybe I've got そこ and あそこ mixed up here for meanings. or maybe none of them work since ここ/そこ are meant to be used in a more direct conversation based on speaker/listener position. halp?

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:17:03 2018 No.18752962
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>>18752887

Start with something fun instead of something you'll get frustrated with.

If you can remember the original 151 pokemon, what's to stop you from remembering several hundreds of Kanji?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:18:17 2018 No.18752967 >>18752962 the number

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:20:10 2018 No.18752977 >>18752967 You've probably never studied anything in your life outside of school if you think memorizing a couple thousand symbols that you'll see over and over every day if you actually use the language is difficult.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:20:57 2018 No.18752979 >>18752977 i never said it was difficult >You've probably never studied anything in your life outside of school this could not be further from the truth look in a mirror instead of trying to shit on random people you don't know on the internet

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:22:21 2018 No.18752987 >>18752077 >Daily Japanese Thread #1905 Shouldn't this be #1909? There were a bunch of duplicates / misnumbered threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:23:13 2018 No.18752996 >>18752987 it should be 1907

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:24:32 2018 No.18752997 >>18752979 >look in a mirror Humans aren't limited to speaking about things they've experienced themselves, but you'd know that if you weren't a brainlet that gets "blocked" by a couple kanji.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:25:09 2018 No.18753001 File: 21 KB, 837x188, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18752961 Get rikai or use a dictionary

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:25:26 2018 No.18753003

Just started learning Nipspeak and first time.posting here, got a couple of questions for you Anons just out of curiosity:
>what other languages did you already know before learning japanese?
>do you think they helped you with japanese in some way or another?

As for me, it's Italian (native), French and obviously English (a little German too, but far from fluent yet).
Being the first non-European language I learn, I have to say I am being fascinated by the added "visual" dimension Japanese has thanks to its writing system, something I've never seen in any European language. Anyone else felt the same at first?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:25:56 2018 No.18753004 >>18752997 sorry dude i already know japanese

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:26:12 2018 No.18753005

>>18752961
ここ works but I don't see a reason you would use そこ or あそこ like that. You'd have to have a specific place already in the context to use そこ, so in most cases you'd already know what it is
If there's a case when you need to confirm what そこ or あそこ are referring to then って is more natural than は

Maybe if someone brought up a location like:
A: ねえ、今度あそこ行かない？
B: 「あそこ」ってどこ？

Or nodded off in a vague direction:
A: 駅はどっち？
B: 駅ならそっちだな
A: そっちってどっちだよ

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:39:04 2018 No.18753057 >>18752996 Without going too far back. 1902 - DJT #1902 1903 - OJT #1902 1904 - DJT #1903 1905 - DJT #1904 1906 - DJT #1905 1907 - OJT #1906 1908 - DJT #69 This thread: 1909 - DJT #1905

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:40:16 2018 No.18753067 >>18753057 you counted wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:40:50 2018 No.18753071 >>18753057 69 is such a good ass number

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:44:55 2018 No.18753085 >>18753067 You're not counting OJT? Overlooking 500+ post threads is the same type of autism as that thread creator.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:45:30 2018 No.18753090 >>18753085 the idiot posting the OJT threads decided to completely split the thread numbering. it's no different than the /int/ vs /jp/ threads at this point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:48:34 2018 No.18753103 djt #theyre all gay

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:49:41 2018 No.18753108 >>18753103 As in, all numbers are gay, or all the people in DJT are gay? If the former, agree 100%. If the latter, uh no, I'm not a ゲイ.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:51:39 2018 No.18753118 >>18752961 >そこはどこですか >あそこはどこですか I think you're over thinking it. あそこ is just そこ but farther removed from the situation and that applies here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:51:53 2018 No.18753119 >>18753108 the numbers as in the threads themselves you dont gotta be gay if you dont wanna dude dont give into peer pressure

Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:52:27 2018 No.18753123

>>18752987
This situation of constantly having two different Japanese threads up at the same time is making it practically impossible to keep the numbers straight, and it's also severely complicating the matter of back-linking to the previous thread, so I decided to simplify things by treating OJT as a separate entity and omitting all OJT threads from the count.

I consider the #1905 number to be correct as is this is indeed the 1905th iteration of the "Daily Japanese Thread". As far as I'm concerned, the OJT guy is the one with the incorrect thread numbers: As there have only been 5 iterations of the "Otaku Japanese Thread" so far, his current one should be labelled #5, but even if you add the DJT thread count to the OJT thread count, the number of his current thread is still incorrect (it should've been #1909 in that case).

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:53:34 2018 No.18753128 >>18753123 The name doesn't matter, just the lineage. This should be 1907 by lineage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 3 23:56:25 2018 No.18753139 >>18753123 whats this guy saying in the first second from this timestamp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOB-TKNVbJA#t=457

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:03:09 2018 No.18753171 [DELETED]

>>18753123
It looks like you'll get your wish
OJT was just deleted, so this thread will remain a haven for normalfags, e-celeb worship, reddit pasting, political discussion(as seen in jamals personal shitposting edition) and general faggotry until it dies just like the /int/ thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:04:17 2018 No.18753182 >>18753171 ban evasion

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:05:15 2018 No.18753186 >>18753182 i was never banned, and I didn't start a single OJT thread though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:06:09 2018 No.18753196 >>18753186 the thread was deleted because its OP was evading a temporary ban

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:07:19 2018 No.18753197 >>18753196 that has nothing to do with me faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:07:48 2018 No.18753200 >>18753197 are you dense, i was telling you why it was deleted

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:08:53 2018 No.18753209 File: 65 KB, 690x420, just good vibes all day.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18753171 blast from the past

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:09:22 2018 No.18753213 reading upside down helps you overcome dyslexia.jpg

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:10:45 2018 No.18753217

>>18752979
Look dude, if you're so "intelligent" then the basic vocabulary/kanji acquisition phase should be a breeze. You probably haven't even started yet so try doing 100 words (not KANJI but actual words which can include the same repeated Kanji) and then decide whether you think it's too hard.

20 words a day is easily retainable. Some can do more, but 20 is a safe place to start.

It's supposed to be a slow, gradual process. If you lack the patience for this, that's on you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:11:29 2018 No.18753221 >>18753217 read the chain of posts you're responding to before you respond to it

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:12:30 2018 No.18753229 セックスをしたい

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:13:31 2018 No.18753232 うんこしたい

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:13:44 2018 No.18753234 >>18753221 Not that guy, but can you elaborate on why you said "blocked by every word" in >>18752887?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:14:22 2018 No.18753238 >>18753234 that wasn't me and if you weren't an idiot you would have noticed the moment you saw the first letter in my post

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:14:48 2018 No.18753242 [DELETED]

>>18753128
>The name doesn't matter
Tell that to the OJT autist who is responsible for this current mess with all the duplicate threads mucking up the archive and previous thread links. It's all thanks to him that this is even a problem in the first place. I'm just trying to clean up the fucking mess he's left in his wake.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:15:12 2018 No.18753245 >>18753242 I don't care about that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:15:28 2018 No.18753246 >>18753238 Hm, then maybe I am an idiot. Apologies.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:15:28 2018 No.18753247 [DELETED]

>>18753242
there is no mess stfu and nihongo bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:22:49 2018 No.18753265 How do you all recommend handling leeches? Do I let anki suspend them or should I just keep grinding at them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:23:45 2018 No.18753270 frankly just burn your flash cards and spend your time learning japanese

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:24:06 2018 No.18753273 [DELETED]

>>18753171
The kinds of people in the West who go around calling themselves "otaku" are underage, Wapanese normalfaggots. You are attracting a much worse kind of poster by trying to force that name.

Not to mention, it was completely misusing the word (just like those underage, Wapanese normalfaggots do, incidentally).

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:25:22 2018 No.18753280 >>18753273 have a gander at the title of the board this thread is on mate

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:26:14 2018 No.18753288 does anybody actually unironically use the exact form of the word "normalfaggots" in the year 2018

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:26:24 2018 No.18753289 >>18753273 embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:27:56 2018 No.18753294 >>18753273 But /jp/ is Otaku Culture, so obviously I'm an otaku if I post here.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:30:08 2018 No.18753301 [DELETED]

>>18753265
Increase the default threshold to somewhere between 10 and 15, but let Anki suspend them when that limit is reached.

>>18753280
The board title is a joke. Moot hated /jp/, and from the very beginning it was intended as nothing more than a containment board like /mlp/. The mods barely give a shit about it either and let all sorts of garbage threads that they don't want on other boards fester here instead (e.g. the monster girl one).

This is probably the reason they never bothered taking action about DJT being posted here when they had declared it should move to /int/. They didn't care enough to do anything about it because they don't care about this board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:32:29 2018 No.18753307 >>18753301 >The board title is a joke It's not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:34:46 2018 No.18753316 File: 316 KB, 476x358, where u think u r mate.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18753273 >>18753301

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:35:35 2018 No.18753317 >>18753301 >The board title is a joke. Moot hated /jp/, and from the very beginning it was intended as nothing more than a containment board cool let it contain us and you can have /int/ problem solved bye bye

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:38:35 2018 No.18753325 >>18753317 well if the problem moves back to int im gonna have to be there

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:39:33 2018 No.18753329

In English, family name follows first name, ie [First Name][Family Name]. Under certain referencing styles, on a bibliography the author's name is listed as [Family Name], [First Name].

In Japanese, however, family name comes first: [Family Name][First Name]. Does the same sort of reversal happened in bibliographies of Japanese papers? Or do they use a different reference systems entirely?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:40:03 2018 No.18753330 >>18753301 Pleiades!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:41:14 2018 No.18753332 >>18753329 absolutely not because family name is everything in nihongo regardless

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:41:46 2018 No.18753334 >>18753329 Fortunately japanese were smart and realised that family names matter more than first names before anglos, so they leave it as is

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:46:29 2018 No.18753344 >>18753003 It kind of feels like English words with those weird spellings especially when you have to pick your reading based on context (e.g. "bow").

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 00:49:06 2018 No.18753357 >>18753003 I knew how to read some Arabic before learning Japanese, and that makes it really easy for me to accept the concept of 'proper stroke order'. Of course, I don't really learn many of them in the end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:04:14 2018 No.18753403 >>18753265 Never suspend. All words will become leeches eventually and there's not much point in having an entirely suspended deck.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:06:54 2018 No.18753407
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>>18753118
I must be. あそこはどこですか? is defined by lingodeer as "Where is that place over there?" But I can't think of a time I would ever say that. Hence i'm trying to wrap my head about it.

I would say "where am i?" (where is this?) or "where is that?" so ここ and そこ with どこ but those might not work for general statements and are meant to be used in reference to speaker/listener location. If that's the case, then あそこはどこですか would be what to use in the case of someone mentioning a place to you and you asking where it is, since neither of you are near it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:19:23 2018 No.18753437 猫宮ひなたは上手だね

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:21:14 2018 No.18753443 >>18753407 >I can't think of a time I would ever say that. You're giving a single language learning app way too much credibility. Take those examples with a grain of salt. There isn't much reason to ever say あそこはどこですか either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:21:46 2018 No.18753445 >>18753407 https://hinative.com/ja/questions/4254340

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:26:35 2018 No.18753468 >>18753003 I am a native English and Spanish speaker and learned a little Turkish. Turkish got me used to having sentences in a different order. I believe Turkish SOV.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:40:03 2018 No.18753503 >>18753445 >>18753443 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:47:19 2018 No.18753532 >>18753118 >>18753407 >>18753443 looks over @ djt あそこはクズの巣窟

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:57:47 2018 No.18753572
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So satisfying to see new kanjis after knowing 4.5k+ already. And without furigana too. It really makes you wonder how good japs know their own language and how hideously lie ostensible "native level" dullards. (Repost from deleted thread)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 01:59:53 2018 No.18753580 >>18753572 i just watched kizuna ai misread 琥珀 and 燈 and 眩む the other day so i wouldnt sweat too hard over the phrase "native level"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 02:03:25 2018 No.18753605 >>18753572 Is あちらこちら related to あちこち?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 02:05:10 2018 No.18753614 >>18753605 same thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 02:17:33 2018 No.18753669 >>18753605 あちらこちらのほうがじょうひんなひょうげんだよいみはあんまりかわらないとおもうよ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:19:26 2018 No.18753831 って is messing with me, it seems like it is used in a million of ways and I can't quite grasp when it's used for "I said" and "I heard" or "You heard." For example 好みって... 言ったら固まりですか. Not sure what to make of this sentence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:21:49 2018 No.18753838 >>18753831 >好き・・・って、言ったら困りますかくっつきかたはこうだよ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:22:12 2018 No.18753839 >>18753831 don't try to translate it, treat って like a colloquial は

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:23:43 2018 No.18753844 >>18753831 you can't learn grammar this way. just get used to it and then figure out what it means later.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:31:47 2018 No.18753869

>>18753844
>figure out what it means later
When? I've always felt like I'm very much lacking in grammar, but I don't know how to improve it. Doing an anki deck where the front is the grammatical concept in a sentence and the back is an explanation felt very unsatisfactory.

Actually, I have constant self-doubts that doing good in Anki actually means I remember them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:33:43 2018 No.18753876 >>18753869 reading a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:40:50 2018 No.18753897 >>18752615 >>18752669 >>18752683 Will anyone ever beat the 伝説の1000Cards a day guy?

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 03:47:19 2018 No.18753913

>>18753869
You won't suddenly understand grammar by having it explained to you. All you can get from an explanation is a good hint, and you have to build from there by actually going and listening to a whole lot of Japanese and figuring out what it means.
tldr read more

って is a fairly broad particle and can be used in the same cases as any of と、という、というのは among more
in this >>18753838 particular example it's doing the same thing as と working as a quoting particle

the 言う isn't even left out there so i don't see why you are confused
sometimes it is left out and that's where sentences like:
桐島、部活やめるってよ
明日のテスト延期だって
come from

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 04:02:56 2018 No.18753966 >>18753913 そっちみじかすぎて >いまなんて（いったの）ってききかえされるかもしれないからあんまりつかわないかもしれないよ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 04:52:16 2018 No.18754089 >>18753869 Try reading something that has a translation so if you can't figure out the grammar you can then reference the translation to help understand what's happening.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 04:54:13 2018 No.18754092

>>18753913
>You won't suddenly understand grammar by having it explained to you.
That's not true at all. When I had actually needed to translate to japanese I had skimmed through japanese particle explanations and got everything needed. It was more valuable than reading dozens of books. It even works with my mother tongue, it's better to read meticulously explanations on points that you don't get than haphazardly consume information and hope that your brain will arrange for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 04:54:15 2018 No.18754094 AJATT is the only serious method for learning nihongo. I can't wait until they replace the nihongo curriculum in japan with AJATT. Only then will japanese people truly learn nihongo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 04:56:18 2018 No.18754099 >>18753831 I think of it a quotation mark, it usually makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:04:37 2018 No.18754117 >>18754092 You don't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:17:17 2018 No.18754141 How many of you actually managed to reach some acceptable level of fluency and how long did it take approximately?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:18:14 2018 No.18754143 >>18754141 i know someone who gained fluent reading skills after reading porn for three years

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:18:14 2018 No.18754144 黒いおちんちんをあげてください

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:19:48 2018 No.18754147 >>18754141 Define "fluency".

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:29:56 2018 No.18754166 >>18754147 Being able to hold a moderately long conversation with a native about general topics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:31:52 2018 No.18754175 >>18754143 that's cool, i, myself, learned how to read braille from reading porn

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:34:21 2018 No.18754181 >>18754166 Ask in the /int/ thread then, this thread is about being able to consume japanese media.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:34:52 2018 No.18754185

>>18754143
>>18754175
Thus it makes only sense that if I read Japanese porn made for blind people I'll learn both Japanese and braille in three years. I hope blind people love NTR.

I do wonder if braille is just a letter conversion system or if they have their own language system.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:43:42 2018 No.18754218
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>>18754185
japanese braille is pretty much the same only it has 20 extra characters, but they're all the same whether it's for kanji, hiragana or katakana
if they sound the same then they share the same braille character
so you could say learning japanese braille is easier than learning the japanese alphabet

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:43:53 2018 No.18754219

>>18753913
Not him, but I feel like what you're saying here is untrue and the exact opposite of how you should go about doing things.

By "reading" a lot you may gain an intuitive sense for Japanese grammar, though at the same time may not even really understand it. This "hint" as you so bluntly put it is very crucial to understanding Japanese.

If you don't mind this crude example, going about learning to use the を and が particles just by memorizing phrases or sentences which happen to use them is doing you a disservice in the end. You might get a feel for it in the long run, but you will never really know why unless you actually study the grammar behind the particles.

In your own example/explanation, you simply state that the って """particle""" can be used in many cases, but I'm willing to bet you have absolutely no clue why that is or what て form is really all about. And it's obvious to anyone that even knows a bit of Japanese. What it all comes down to is that when you finally decide you want to formulate your own thoughts into Japanese, all you're really doing is creating frankensteins out of things you've previously heard or read, which may very well not be all that correct sounding, because let's face it, you have no fucking clue what you're doing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:45:49 2018 No.18754227 >>18754166 This is /jp/, I have my suspicions about people being able to hold moderately long conversations with real life people even in their native language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:50:03 2018 No.18754234 >>18754219 You don't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:52:38 2018 No.18754242 >>18754219 How do you think natives learn their own language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 05:53:35 2018 No.18754247 >>18754219 Nobody on the face of the planet can teach even "most" of Japanese grammar to you. Not a single person.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:07:31 2018 No.18754293 File: 1.60 MB, 350x197, You... uh....gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18754227 Delete please.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:16:03 2018 No.18754315

>>18754242
They learn a slipshod and incorrect version of it, like very other native that doesn't specifically study their own language. They twist it with malformed, run on sentances and slang terminology and then claim that was the real language all along.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:16:30 2018 No.18754319 >>18754315 You don't know anything.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:20:30 2018 No.18754331

>>18754315
>They learn a slipshod and incorrect version of it, like very other native that doesn't specifically study their own language.
Incorrect use of a 'that' clause to narrow the classification of a non-topical noun phrase. 'That' clauses can only narrow down topics or be used as simple descriptors. Otherwise their behavior can be logically ambiguous.

>sentances
Incorrect spelling.

>slang terminology
Is this the fanciest phrase you could think of? Because it's disgusting.

>and then claim that was the real language all along
Tense consistency deviation with no logical purpose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:25:06 2018 No.18754351 >>18754331 You forgot to point out the missing letter in "every"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:25:54 2018 No.18754355 >>18754351 Sorry, I'm dyslexic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:30:24 2018 No.18754377 >>18754315 This but unironically. Most people don't know their own language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:31:05 2018 No.18754380 >>18754377 By definition they're the only people who know their own language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:32:02 2018 No.18754383 >>18754377 you don't know anything about language or people, you're just a classist asshole

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:32:29 2018 No.18754385 >>18754380 Yes, if they also study it. >>18754383 Boo-hoo.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:35:15 2018 No.18754406

>>18754385
No, not if they study it. It's literally not possible to learn anything substantial about your own language from studies. People do not know enough about languages to write down how they work. The rules for "correctness" and "grammaticality" you find in textbooks, when not very simple syntax that everybody understands 100%, are simply random people's stupid ideas on how language 'should' work, like to not split infinitives or how singular they isn't real; these ideas are usually just ways to make the authors of such guides feel superior to people who "misuse" the language, and the fact that you bought into their actual bullshit tells me that you are a terrible person.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:37:31 2018 No.18754422 >>18754406 Yeah, right, keep living in your bubble.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:38:16 2018 No.18754426 >>18754422 Right back at you, poser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:42:35 2018 No.18754434 ゴミ箱タワーできた！

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:44:38 2018 No.18754439 >>18754434 大したものはありません、どうぞ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:56:34 2018 No.18754465 >>18754242 にほんごはしゃべれるようにはなってもかけるようにはならないよ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 06:59:00 2018 No.18754472 >>18754234 >>18754319 >>18754383 Thou art comely and I like thee

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 07:29:24 2018 No.18754574 Can you guys recommend me some Japanese PS3 games? I'd like to get away from my PC so I won't get distracted so much anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 07:54:37 2018 No.18754635 >>18754574 Resonance of Fate

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 07:56:04 2018 No.18754639 What does ていき mean in this sentence? Can you translate this? 玄関から石を投げ入れていきやがった

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:09:24 2018 No.18754687 >>18754639 >玄関から石を投げ入れていきやがった投げ入れて-いき-やがっ-た Someone has thrown a stone into my house through the entrance, fuck. 「やがる」ってどうやって訳したらいいんだろう…

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:13:20 2018 No.18754699 >>18754639 it's not ていき, it's [玄関から石を投げ入れて] [いきやがった]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:20:56 2018 No.18754738 >>18754687 わっざへる！とかいってそう

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:21:52 2018 No.18754741 File: 137 KB, 1280x960, c04b6a9e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18754687 >through the entrance, fuck. やがるって不思議ですねｆｕｃｋ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:24:00 2018 No.18754750 File: 27 KB, 600x450, 4938__468x_697viploader2d415119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18754738 >わっざへる

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:38:50 2018 No.18754795 Are there any kanji that are read with a ぷ?　Except for 鉑 and 風 in 風太郎?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 08:55:24 2018 No.18754859 >>18754795 ふ changes into ぷ/ぶ when 連濁（れんだく） happens. 「布」…湿布（しっぷ）「付」…添付（てんぷ）「符」…切符（きっぷ）「父」…神父（しんぷ）「賦」…割賦（かっぷ） etc. Let's enjoy bowling ぷ .... 。!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 09:00:55 2018 No.18754877 >>18754795 普魯西

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 09:52:00 2018 No.18755066 >>18754859 >連濁 this is why i fail a lot of my cards, just can't work out the trick

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 09:56:42 2018 No.18755084 >>18755066 The trick is "whatever is easier to pronounce is probably correct"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 09:59:19 2018 No.18755100 >>18755084 well i don't even want to know how 勃発 could be harder for my stupid brain

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 09:59:19 2018 No.18755101 most people in this generals are retarded or autistic

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:02:56 2018 No.18755114 >>18755100 "easier" meaning "can be pronounced fluidly, without having to pause to switch syllables" You can't say ぼっはつ without an unnatural pause before the は

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:09:48 2018 No.18755152 >>18755114 >っは Are there even any words that would have っは in them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:11:26 2018 No.18755157 >>18755152 no

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:22:23 2018 No.18755201
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What could this チュンチュン mean? "Chirp" means no sense here since there are no birds around...

The only context is that they had a birthday party prior to a wild programming session.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:26:04 2018 No.18755226 >>18752077 はぁ、たまに最高だけど忘れちゃうのよ HowTo笑顔何処にいてもここじゃないなにか特に選ぶ権利などないが

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:54:35 2018 No.18755373

>>18755152
basic rules (though there are exceptions)
(1) っ+は、っ+ひ、っ+ふ、っ+へ、っ+ほ almost alwasys become 半濁音 like:
失敗しっぱい、執筆しっぴつ、切腹せっぷく、疾病しっぺい、日本にっぽん

(2) ん+は、ん+ひ、ん+ふ、ん+へ、ん+ほ often become 半濁音 but sometimes become 濁音 (so give attention to 濁音 cases) like:
心配しんぱい、安否あんぴ、音符おんぷ、身辺しんぺん、根本こんぽん
（濁音cases）看板かんばん、昆布こんぶ、単行本たんこうぼん
（NO 連濁 cases）前半ぜんはん、四本よんほん

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 10:58:08 2018 No.18755391 File: 195 KB, 836x1200, 148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 「つるむち」とは ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:06:19 2018 No.18755422 >>18755201 no idea other than chirping... t.native >>18755391 造語coined word つるつる　で　むちむち　の意味だと思う。

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:11:04 2018 No.18755453 >>18755391 つるつるもちもち is pretty common on Google.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:12:45 2018 No.18755462 >>18755422 >>18755453 I had a feeling that's what it meant, just wanted to make sure. Thanks guys

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:13:51 2018 No.18755467
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It's over. I finished the final 283 new cards today for a total of 2883[200+(400*6)+283] in 8 days. Five or six hundred would've been possible for sure if I spent a few more hours a day, more than that if I spent 100% of possible time, but anki isn't as fun as eroge and I wasn't sure of my limits either.

I'd definitely recommend this to those of you who are like I was with a moderate sized anki dick and a large stack of unseen cards.
It was a great experience and I wish I had done it sooner. Unfortunately I don't think I'll accumulate new cards fast enough to ever do something on this scale again.

I couldn't have done it without you DJT, thanks for cheering me on. Now I can take it easy and go back to LISTENING and READING.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:21:19 2018 No.18755511 >>18755422 >no idea other than chirping... t.native I see, thanks! Guess it has to be that, then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:35:51 2018 No.18755593 why are people shitposting like this >>18755467 all the time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:44:52 2018 No.18755649 おしりをしりたい

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:46:45 2018 No.18755657 god i fucking love flash cards

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 11:58:47 2018 No.18755736 >>18755593 They're just LARPing 'cause they wanna feel better than everyone else. Delusions aren't healthy, so just ignore em so not to enable them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:05:20 2018 No.18755770 >>18755467 You're only finished when those cards are mature, just seeing them once isn't all that useful

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:10:33 2018 No.18755790 まったくflashcardsは最高だぜ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:11:38 2018 No.18755797 >貴女 For what purpose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:12:58 2018 No.18755803 Could someone explain to me the difference between 気温 and 温度?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:13:55 2018 No.18755810 >>18755803 温度 could be used to refer to temperature of the water in a pool, or a kiln, or a body, 気温 is all about the temp of the air.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:15:19 2018 No.18755819 >>18755810 Thanks. It's just I've seen room temp. referred with both, and got a little puzzled.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:28:56 2018 No.18755892 >tfw making progress feels good anons, remember to do your reps

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:29:21 2018 No.18755894

I studied from December 2015 to August 2016, I havent studied since. 1 hour anki and 1-3 hours reading everyday. I still remember basic kanji, all hiragana and kata, and most basic grammar. Music and a lot of jav have preserved most of the little listening skills I have

If I wanted to start studying again, should I jump back into it where I left off? Core 2k/6k and my own deck both have 1,000+ reviews, but I don't wanna start again from scratch. I'm thinking I should just start reading again and do more cards for the time being , maybe skim through tae Kim for the stuff I can't remember immediately. Daily reminder if you're serious about this you will be an anki slave for the rest of your life

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:29:29 2018 No.18755897 File: 102 KB, 446x332, 絶対☆霊域_1_007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is "計算外" a made-up word?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:33:41 2018 No.18755920 >>18755897 All words are made up anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:34:13 2018 No.18755923 >>18755894 >Daily reminder if you're serious about this you will be an anki slave for the rest of your life Daily reminder you don't need to do anki to learn Japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:38:36 2018 No.18755953 Reading my first LN, getting through roughly 5 pages an hour. Give it to me straight anons, can I learn Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:38:46 2018 No.18755955 >>18755923 Not him but what are some alternatives?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:39:37 2018 No.18755962 File: 733 KB, 760x839, 1498356100846.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] DJT hurts a lot more than it helps as soon as you stop being a total beginner. Why can't I stop wasting my time here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:40:42 2018 No.18755973 >>18755955 Anime and reading

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:40:44 2018 No.18755974 >>18755894 >Daily reminder if you're serious about this you will be an anki slave for the rest of your life How is my English vocabulary good if I never do any English flashcards?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:42:02 2018 No.18755980 File: 1.08 MB, 500x301, 1467322561900.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When you guess the meaning of a new kanji you haven't seen previously correctly based on the radicals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:43:00 2018 No.18755987 >>18755897 http://jisho.org/word/外-1 Remember that suffixes and prefixes exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:44:30 2018 No.18756000 >>18755980 why does it make your face small?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:45:30 2018 No.18756006 >>18755955 Use KanjiTomo every 5 seconds and pretend like you're learning

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:48:42 2018 No.18756029 >>18755962 >you stop being a total beginner. When does that happen?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:49:32 2018 No.18756035 >>18756029 3k into core

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:50:57 2018 No.18756046 >>18756029 3.1k into core

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:51:09 2018 No.18756047 >>18756035 so ~2 years Fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:55:05 2018 No.18756078 >>18756047 10 years

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:56:07 2018 No.18756089 I fucking hate this general.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 12:58:10 2018 No.18756096 >>18756089 What's wrong Anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:10:18 2018 No.18756175 >>18755980 然 I'll leave this to your imagination.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:12:08 2018 No.18756183 >>18756089 You're welcome to leave any time, お兄ちゃん

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:12:30 2018 No.18756187 >>18755987 So, "I didn't foresee this" or something like that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:13:30 2018 No.18756193 >>18756029 At most, a month after you've started reading. After that, coming here is just a means of procrastinating.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:14:02 2018 No.18756197
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I don't really understand 手を使うあたり. Is it にあたり except without に? For context she waited way too long to return a book she borrowed. It was supposed to go smoothly but she waited too long and made everything awkward.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:14:18 2018 No.18756199 >>18756175 I'm not claiming it always works, it just feels good when it does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:14:24 2018 No.18756201 >>18756187 http://jisho.org/word/計算 >2. forecast Yeah, essentially.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:16:05 2018 No.18756213 File: 150 KB, 1243x925, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18755962 here you go your only instructions are prove to me youre not a beginner

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:18:23 2018 No.18756233 File: 268 KB, 400x400, bi4p2qyoaauvy81130oi_400x400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 手うが

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:18:53 2018 No.18756240 >>18755953 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:21:38 2018 No.18756258 >>18756183 youre welcome to suck my dick any time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:23:14 2018 No.18756271 >>18756258 Sure, tell me where you live and I'll come over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:24:01 2018 No.18756276 >>18756271 no you tell me where you live and ill come over

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:26:44 2018 No.18756285 >>18756276 l o n d o n

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:27:34 2018 No.18756288 >>18756271 35° 41 3.6 N, 139° 28 26.3 E waiting for you hon xoxo

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:28:36 2018 No.18756294 >>18756276 no you tell me where i live and ill come over

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:29:24 2018 No.18756298 >>18756294 i dont know where you live thats i need to know so i can come over red rover

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:29:52 2018 No.18756306 >>18756288 hey thats a jail you cant shitpost in jail thats against the law

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:35:23 2018 No.18756338 File: 57 KB, 774x673, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:55:01 2018 No.18756450 File: 102 KB, 1280x853, IMG_6280-e1478744329216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 今日も勉強頑張るゾイ！

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 13:57:49 2018 No.18756462
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>>18755953
> Reading my first LN, getting through roughly 5 pages an hour
> It's a concern
Is Japanese your first foreign language?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:02:17 2018 No.18756478 >>18756197 〜するあたり ≒ 〜するなんて/〜するとは

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:09:22 2018 No.18756506
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>>18755894
> Daily reminder if you're serious about this you will be an anki slave for the rest of your life
Speaking from my experience of studying English, you only need around 2000 words to be drilled into your head through dumb memorization. Everything else is learned naturally, as you read and listen.
My vocabulary has gone from 2k up to around 10-11k since I finished my first and only textbook.
All I did was watching movies, reading books and shitposting on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:11:49 2018 No.18756515 >>18756478 I think I understand. So she's evaluating her actions as cowardly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:16:59 2018 No.18756536 >>18756462 It is. Should I not be concerned then? It's going to take me like 400 hours to read through ten books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:21:16 2018 No.18756559 >>18756536 It's obviously going to get easier as your vocabulary and your intuition for grammar improve, baka.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:22:33 2018 No.18756563 >>18756536 Your reading skills improve gradually. Have you ever learned anything at all? Can you calculate ((120/30) + (34 / 2))/7 ? Probably took you a second or two, but it when you were a first grader you used to spend minutes dividing numbers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:30:10 2018 No.18756598 in ankidroid, is there a way to set unique deck options for separate decks?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:38:14 2018 No.18756633 File: 263 KB, 566x775, 1521635893557.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >could barely do 100 lines in an hour a month ago >already hitting almost 400 in an hour now

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:40:10 2018 No.18756637 how come 二つ is pronounced as 'futatsu' and 二 is pronounced as 'ni'?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:40:40 2018 No.18756639 >>18756633 Did you have to force yourself to read faster or did it just come naturally?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:41:09 2018 No.18756643 >>18756637 Learn about kun-yomi and on-yomi. And basic counters. Basically, study for longer than a week.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:42:11 2018 No.18756651 >>18756637 二日 = ふつか Yet another reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:44:04 2018 No.18756659 >>18756639 it just came naturally also it does get a lot easier, the first 30 minutes of reading felt like 5 minutes

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:45:36 2018 No.18756670 Is there a difference between 下着 and 肌着? I always thought they were the same thing, but I just came across both being used in the same sentence.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:46:19 2018 No.18756676

>>18756197
>>18756197
この手を使う。
手 does mean "a way", "a method"
あたり（辺り）does mean 周囲 ( around, area,point)
for example, あたりを見渡す（look around there)
このあたりは、静かだ。
This area is quiet.
あたり is noun.

but it have other adverb or conjunction mean.
この手を使うあたり、is Adverbial clause for 私は臆病（ a main clause）.
臆病だな…私（は）...　is anastrophe.

I can only use this way.(私はこの手を使う）
in that point（meaning), （あたり）
I am coward.（私は臆病）

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:54:15 2018 No.18756712 >>18752166 I can so relate to this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:56:13 2018 No.18756717 So I just met this word: 出撃 Seriously, what the FUCK is a sortie?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 14:59:45 2018 No.18756740 >>18756717 its french also stop posting this every fucking time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:02:00 2018 No.18756755 >>18756740 I'm sorry if it was posted before, I asked this the first time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:03:01 2018 No.18756761 >>18756755 I guess it must be a coincidence this gets asked literally every thread then

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:09:40 2018 No.18756793 >>18756717 https://www.google.com/search?q=sortie Lot of effort, I know

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:12:32 2018 No.18756805 I read Genki and still don't get it. Can someone explain the difference between わ and が？

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:13:51 2018 No.18756815 >>18756805 Congrats, I got triggered.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:14:07 2018 No.18756819 >>18756755 are you a bot or did you just save your replies somewhere

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:24:11 2018 No.18756867 >>18756637 Because first is pseudo Chinese and the latter is Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:25:56 2018 No.18756877 >>18756637 >>18756651 And this is just a case of "it sounds better this way" common in every language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:44:21 2018 No.18756963 >>18756805 わ = things that are obvious or have been discussed already が = new things that you bring into the discussion

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:46:32 2018 No.18756981 >>18756963 delet this

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:52:08 2018 No.18757011

>>18756963
Explanations like this are why no one seems to understand the difference between those two particles.
I know the original question was a troll post, but は and が really are completely different things.
Sadly, the way the japanese language works makes it possible to create sentences that differ only in those particles, yet translate to the same thing.
But that doesn't mean both particles are the same, it's just that the way japanese allows you to leave out a lot of redundant information makes those two sentences seem like they are the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:52:33 2018 No.18757014 Can you change the dictionary that Kanjitomo uses to a Japanese one? Or are there programs similar to Kanjitomo that use a jap dictionary instead of an english one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:53:47 2018 No.18757023 >>18756867 Actually it's the other way around

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 15:56:13 2018 No.18757037 >>18757023 oh shit, you're correct.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:30:41 2018 No.18757188

I'm reading Tae Kim right now and this sentence made me stumble. It's probably been explained before but I can't find it.
>他にいいものがたくさんある
more specifically,
>他にいいもの
Why use the に particle? I understand that it generally describes the target of a verb, but I don't see a verb here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:33:50 2018 No.18757206 >>18757188 Check Jisho.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:34:30 2018 No.18757210 >>18757188 >I don't see a verb here. ある？

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:36:35 2018 No.18757225 >>18757210 Isn't >他にいいもの a subclause that's independent of the ある that appears later? >>18757206 So it's just a special expression?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:37:37 2018 No.18757234 >>18757188 that's not what に means

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:39:17 2018 No.18757241 >>18757234 >The 「に」 particle can specify a target of a verb. What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:40:46 2018 No.18757246 >>18757241 that's を, に specifies location, it doesn't need to have a transitive verb

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:42:18 2018 No.18757252 >>18757225 It's just an adverb. I don't think に is also a particle, it's just a sound they use in words too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:44:55 2018 No.18757262 File: 41 KB, 1106x186, tkni.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757246 This is the passage from Tae Kim I read, is he wrong? >>18757252 Yeah, I also thought it might be an adverb. So is it actually linked to ある as the verb then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:47:44 2018 No.18757275 File: 26 KB, 165x166, IMG_20180404_223655.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Took a shower and this formed on the floor from some water droplets while I dried off. Is it a シ or a ツ？ I'm not sure, but my intuition says シ.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:52:55 2018 No.18757297 >>18757262 It's linked by virtue of being an adverb, not because of a particle or anything. But yeah, that's the only verb in the sentence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 16:54:37 2018 No.18757308 >>18757262 >>18757252 >>18757297 It makes sense now. I didn't know you could put adverbs anywhere in front of the verb, I thought it had to be directly in front of it. Cheers man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:00:18 2018 No.18757331 File: 154 KB, 452x427, umu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18755373 thanks for this

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:06:00 2018 No.18757356 File: 206 KB, 800x542, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757262

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:07:31 2018 No.18757362 >>18757275 it's looking up so it's obviously シ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:08:43 2018 No.18757366 >>18757275 シ = dots aligned to the left ツ = dots aligned at the top so your image is definitely a シ The same rule applies to ン and ソ, and is valid for all fonts

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:10:26 2018 No.18757378 >>18757275 >smuggest looking characters you will ever meet >sound completely different >are nearly identical >together they're the shits characters

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:14:24 2018 No.18757391 >>18757378 Truly the final boss of kana learning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:16:33 2018 No.18757402 >>18757378 Who the fuck thought these characters were a good idea, seriously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:18:19 2018 No.18757408 >>18757362 >>18757366 Interesting that one person uses the slant of the long line to distinguish between シ/ッ, while the other uses the short lines. By combining these two methods, I will learn these kana symbols twice as fast. #lifehack

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:20:24 2018 No.18757415 >>18757408 >the long line is different W H O A surely now I will be able to tell the difference easily

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:21:46 2018 No.18757419 ワタシは・・

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:32:01 2018 No.18757455 File: 10 KB, 318x105, 2018-04-04_23-29-55-sel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757366 My eyes have been opened.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:48:40 2018 No.18757545

まっすぐベッドに行きなさい。明日は　_______ なりますよ。

This is a sentence in a grammar test I'm taking. I put いそがしい as the answer and it's telling me the correct answer is いそがしく. I feel like an idiot but I really can't figure out why, even hovering over いそがしく with Yomichan just gives me いそがしい without any further context such as tense. Can someone yell at me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:49:36 2018 No.18757550 File: 143 KB, 958x540, 0004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >塩汁 It's either しおじる or しょっつる wherever I look it up. Why does Japan keep making up readings for stuff they already have?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:57:55 2018 No.18757581 File: 13 KB, 264x117, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757545 You replace the last i with ku for i-adjectives when you're doing naru

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 17:58:25 2018 No.18757585 >>18757545 you can't put an adjective before a verb dummy do you say "i'll busy be" in english

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:00:30 2018 No.18757592 >>18757585 Yes, but also stupid am

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:03:01 2018 No.18757601
File: 44 KB, 178x475, guitar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Stuck on a really stupid simple thing, but nonetheless stuck...

Context is a character playing a guitar after a long time. Is she saying that finding the tuner is hard (見つけるのも一苦労), that it's hard since she can't find a tuner (見つけないのも一苦労) or something else entirely?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:03:35 2018 No.18757603 >春分 Why the fuck is this in the first half of 6k?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:05:46 2018 No.18757611 >>18757603 because core 2k/6k is garbage

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:06:30 2018 No.18757615 >>18757603 What is this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:06:34 2018 No.18757616 >>18757603 Cuz the Japaneses are mad obsessed with the equinozes, yo

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:07:29 2018 No.18757619 In 6k deck why is 相手 only shown as "opponent"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:08:16 2018 No.18757623 >>18757619 >>18757611

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:08:47 2018 No.18757628 >>18757619 because that's what it means

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:09:00 2018 No.18757630 >>18757628 it's not

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:10:05 2018 No.18757636 >>18757630 Can it even be viewed "opponent" in some cases or is it strictly "partner" & "companion/company"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:10:38 2018 No.18757640 >>18757630 what does it mean then, senpai

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:12:10 2018 No.18757649 >>18757640 あいて【相手】 (１)一緒に物事をする，もう一方の人。仲間。「結婚の―」「遊び―」 (２)対抗して争う人。「―チーム」 (３)はたらきかける対象。「学生―の商売」

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:12:52 2018 No.18757651 >>18757636 it can be view as "opponent" in some cases you know how "partner" has multiple sense? 相手 is like "partner" but has the additional nuance that there's a "partner in competition" dimension to the "partner in an activity" sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:14:51 2018 No.18757659 >>18757649 Does 相棒 have an oposite meaning in the sense of a "friend" and an "enemy"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:15:50 2018 No.18757666 >>18757659 相手 is the coin that has the one side "friend" and the other side "opponent" and represents the shared dimension between the two

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:15:53 2018 No.18757667 >>18757659 Watch more anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:15:59 2018 No.18757668 >>18757649 >no 相棒 in 6k deck That's just bad...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:16:09 2018 No.18757669 >>18757649 so basically opponent then, thanks for explaining senpai

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:16:36 2018 No.18757672 >>18757669 either you don't know japanese enough to read those definitions or you don't know english enough to know what opponent means

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:16:50 2018 No.18757674 >>18757667 >watch I refuse. I only read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:17:01 2018 No.18757676 File: 31 KB, 627x625, 1522701580938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757667 It's not working.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:17:43 2018 No.18757680 >>18757672 shitposts like the one you're replying to are bound to confuse people trying to learn at some point which is a shame

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:18:02 2018 No.18757682 >>18757680 same

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:18:23 2018 No.18757684 >>18757680 Trying to learn in a website full of assholes is perhaps not the best choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:18:57 2018 No.18757689 >>18757684 unfortunately the sea of assholes is also the only thing keeping this place from turning into /r/learnjapanese or koohii

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:20:26 2018 No.18757696 >>18757689 I wonder if there's a similar thing, a /det/ for English learners in the Japanese 4chan. 2ch? I forgot what's it called now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:21:39 2018 No.18757703 Would you consider duolingo good if they didn't use hiragana instead of kanji for everything? Because that's what they're doing, at least at the start

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:21:53 2018 No.18757705 >>18757676 If you want Japanese Garufurendo here's what you have to do: >wait until she does something clumsy or stupid >say "君のそういうとこ、嫌いじゃないよ" >have sex later that evening Works every time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:23:41 2018 No.18757714 >る-verbs are classified as such if the vowel preceding it is either い or え >to extract the stem of る-verbs just remove る >the stem of 走る is 走り >the stem of 帰る is 帰り >the stem of 食べる is 食べ Why is this? Is there something i've yet to learn or realize?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:24:37 2018 No.18757719 >>18757696 there's not even a language board in 2chan well I mean 4chan doesn't have it either but that's a different story

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:25:31 2018 No.18757725 >>18757714 >why That's just...the rules, man. If you want to know you probably have to go find a history of Japanese language book or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:26:13 2018 No.18757730 >>18757714 走る and 帰る are actually u verbs you see even though they end in る

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:26:23 2018 No.18757731 >>18757714 Stop using whatever grammar guide you're using.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:27:35 2018 No.18757738 >>18757714 Just read more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:27:45 2018 No.18757739 >>18757730 >走る and 帰る are actually u verbs Those are like the first verbs that come to mind when I learned about "ru verbs" and that they're not actually those still itches me to this day. Sure glad I will never produce a sentence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:29:01 2018 No.18757746 >>18757705 Kimi no advicemono wo itadakimasu, demo watakushi don't wakaru this 文. A thousand gomens. どぞどぞどざ. Kankei ga gotoku like でずnoka?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:29:02 2018 No.18757747 >る-verbs are classified as such if the vowel preceding it is either い or え this isn't even true

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:30:29 2018 No.18757755 >>18757746 君のそういうとこ、嫌いじゃないよ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:30:45 2018 No.18757758 >>18757731 >>18757747 >tfw TK lied to you

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:31:06 2018 No.18757761 >>18757758 he doesn't word it that way

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:31:13 2018 No.18757762 >>18757714 Back when I learned Japanese, verbs like 食べる were called e-verbs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:31:19 2018 No.18757763 >>18757747 Can you give a counterexample?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:31:37 2018 No.18757767 >>18757763 切る

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:31:37 2018 No.18757768 File: 84 KB, 452x304, わかってない.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757356 Fixed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:32:20 2018 No.18757775 File: 47 KB, 1032x126, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757758 She didn't say that.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:34:34 2018 No.18757785

>>18757768
Wait. Does わかってない have the sense of "not understanding it at all" or a "complete lack of understanding" that just わからない doesn't convey?

I still can't quite grasp ている and it's kinda ruffles my jimmies, but I guess that's what learning language is like

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:34:41 2018 No.18757786 >>18757601 見つけるのも一苦労る in a verb easily becomes ん, but this never happens when る is the end of a sentence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:35:06 2018 No.18757789 >>18757767 Ye that's a u-verb I guess reading the sentence again it's worded quite unfortunately, I think what he meant is that all ru-verbs have either an い or anえ vowel preceding the る

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:35:53 2018 No.18757793 it's really not ambiguous >>18757775

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:36:05 2018 No.18757796 >>18757775 >>18757761 I see now. Boy did i feel dumb scrolling down to the end of that section

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:37:51 2018 No.18757808 File: 15 KB, 440x419, mini hmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If it's hard for japanese to read everything in hiragana/katakana why dont they just uses spaces in their every day usage instead of just for video games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:39:22 2018 No.18757816 >>18757808 because kanji

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:40:33 2018 No.18757824 >>18757775 >she

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:40:49 2018 No.18757827 >>18757816 Even still, given the option to use spaces wouldn't it be much easier to read stuff overall for them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:41:22 2018 No.18757834 >>18757755 I heard if you use "Kimi" with someone you've known for less than a decade or a thousand cumulative hours they'll behead you though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:41:39 2018 No.18757835 >>18757827 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:42:13 2018 No.18757840 >>18757808 Japan is a small island country, they don't have much space in there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:42:42 2018 No.18757841 >>18757835 You're just saying that

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:42:58 2018 No.18757845 >>18757827 word boundaries are artificial the only time you see spaces is in picture books for young children written almost entirely, or literally entirely, in hiragana

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:43:19 2018 No.18757847 >>18757840 laugh track plays in the background

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:43:40 2018 No.18757851 >>18757834 Those rules don't apply to gaijin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:43:45 2018 No.18757853 File: 38 KB, 600x600, Flan hid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757840 oh you

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:44:10 2018 No.18757858 >>18757808 >Why doesnt this country whose language descended from chinese stop using chinese characteristics >why should i have to learn kanji, it should be japan that should change!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:44:20 2018 No.18757860 >>18757785 わかった vs わかる i got it と i understand it は違うでしょう？

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:45:16 2018 No.18757862 >>18757858 hey he didn't even say that stop getting your panties wet

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:45:21 2018 No.18757863 >>18757858 actually japanese descended from hebrew

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:46:24 2018 No.18757869 >>18757863 no hebrew descended from japanese on the 6th day, god gave us the kanji

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:46:59 2018 No.18757875 >>18757858 I'm not suggesting that at all, I was simply wish to express my curiosity as to why they make it hard for themselves when there are easier options such as implementing spaces. But I guess they just dont need to

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:47:59 2018 No.18757888 >>18757858 The only good reason I've heard for keeping Kanji is for distinguishing homophones. Why don't they just replace them with emojis? They like that shit, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:48:12 2018 No.18757889 File: 183 KB, 1600x1200, DSC03998.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757863 >>18757869 Jesus brought the language to Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:48:24 2018 No.18757891 >>18757875 I suppose the reason lies that they don't find it easier, while you do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:49:06 2018 No.18757896 >>18757862 Thats what basically ever single person who suggests it means Go look at kanji videos on youtube explaining the japanese language and the comments are full of "why use kanji why not use spaces lol"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:49:09 2018 No.18757897 >>18757875 Honestly I'd rather they start using punctuation marks or something other than fucking particles rather than spaces, if I could only change one thing about Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:50:13 2018 No.18757905 >>18757889 >jesus studied the high art of katana smithing in japan for 12 years I'm glad the first weeb was the son of god

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:50:57 2018 No.18757911 >>18757888 it might be because of the way the language works anon good luck telling the difference between かえる's 100000000 definitions when theres little context

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:51:13 2018 No.18757914 File: 252 KB, 800x439, 1511599184212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757888 they need to be distinguish and extinguished

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:51:19 2018 No.18757917 >>18757905 They had to nail his hands down so he wouldn't blade catch the lance that killed him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:51:32 2018 No.18757918 >>>/int/ >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:52:56 2018 No.18757931 File: 6 KB, 720x960, shi ha.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really like this. It actually looks like a cross section of a tooth. What other kanji looks like the think they are written for?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:54:43 2018 No.18757943 >>18757931 車 looks like a carriage from a bird's eye view

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:55:12 2018 No.18757950 File: 16 KB, 394x179, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757931 I just found out about this like a week ago, but it still entertains me to no end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:55:38 2018 No.18757953 >>18757931 The kanji for concave and convex always make me laugh, especially when I read any story about the mystical spiritual origins of kanji or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 18:58:16 2018 No.18757975 File: 3 KB, 45x116, 0005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18757931 女, used to be a woman kneeling over and tending to housework.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:01:44 2018 No.18757997 Does anyone have any suggestions on writing practice? And I don't just mean writing individual Kanji, like whole letters and such? I'm no longer in a class with a teacher to grade me but I'd still like to progress.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:05:34 2018 No.18758018 >production

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:07:13 2018 No.18758035 >>18758018 I need to learn enough japanese so I can shitpost on Japanese social media! By social media I mean their imageboards. Are imageboards social media?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:09:13 2018 No.18758046 >>18758035 >Are imageboards social media? They are anti-social media. So no.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:09:37 2018 No.18758049 >>18757997 >writing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:13:43 2018 No.18758074 >>18757997 You can bypass needing to learn complicated kanji by practicing writing your romaji.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:18:58 2018 No.18758112 File: 3.67 MB, 9000x9000, 1518064844920.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18758049 >>18758074 Classic

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:20:24 2018 No.18758119 >>18758112 Oh hey, speaking of 'classic', I missed that girl in your pic. I even forgot what's the book she's from. Makes me wonder what other 'classic' DJT stuff had been forgotten/dropped.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:21:48 2018 No.18758128 >>18757997 Get a keyboard. Improved my writing ability exponentially.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:22:02 2018 No.18758130 >>18758119 >Makes me wonder what other 'classic' DJT stuff had been forgotten/dropped. lingosteve used to be posted in every thread a couple years ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:22:17 2018 No.18758132 hello i want to learn nihongo but i want to split up every aspect of learning the language and work on them independently of each other am i in the right place

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:23:55 2018 No.18758141 File: 22 KB, 466x369, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18758128 Is it because the constant finger movement makes your hands more flexible?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:25:04 2018 No.18758147 >>18758132 No, exactly the opposite. The recommended way is to do as much of everything concurrently as soon as you can.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:25:42 2018 No.18758154 File: 121 KB, 1353x1345, 1337622431309.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18758132 definitely not, this is an ajatt general

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:27:14 2018 No.18758166 君も頑張って貞操守って立派な魔法使いになってね

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:28:56 2018 No.18758186 >>18758166 リア充爆発しろ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:30:27 2018 No.18758197 >>18758166 >立派 I love this word. It just sound so...British? "Oy blimey that cuppa's a rippa, what a sotta treat for a famished coppa, I tell you what."

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:31:59 2018 No.18758206 >>18758074 Don't even try to start reading until you've finished core10/20.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:33:10 2018 No.18758216 >>18758206 >core10/20 M8 I learned 20 words just by going through Tae Kim, too easy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:34:12 2018 No.18758224 >>18758216 I'm talking about the romaji decks that teach you the 10/20 most common romaji

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:36:03 2018 No.18758236 >>18758224 Just make a mining deck. No sense in learning them until you need them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:37:44 2018 No.18758249 >>18758236 Have fun never reaching native level you lazy shitter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:37:53 2018 No.18758250 >>18758224 I managed to do all 26 in a day because I did RTR (Remembering the Romaji) in advance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:38:19 2018 No.18758252 >>18758236 Wouldn't it be more convenient to know them already when you need them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:39:55 2018 No.18758262 >>18758250 >all 26 in a day Yeah, good luck remembering all those in a month or two! Hey, here's one you could try to remember the meaning of: [X]. Good fucking luck, ankidrone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:40:02 2018 No.18758263 >>18758250 >Only knowing English readings >Not knowing the French reading as well Wasted your time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:40:37 2018 No.18758266 I have the urge to make a romaji version of the Core2K/6K deck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:42:18 2018 No.18758275 >>18758266 Put all homonyms first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:42:22 2018 No.18758276 So at which point do you become able to read all those classical citations in Daijirin and Daijsen? Surely they were put there to be read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:42:26 2018 No.18758278 >>18758266 It would actually be pretty fun to try and come up with example words using only letters that have been introduced. Especially if you did it alphabetically.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:43:41 2018 No.18758286 >>18758276 About 25 years in It's a marathon, not a sprint

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:46:48 2018 No.18758307 >>18758276 about 69 years in its not a marathon its a triathlon

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:47:14 2018 No.18758309 >>18758275 I'd have to figure out how to get past duplicates. I'm not sure how the fields are laid out for Core.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:51:50 2018 No.18758339 >>18758286 >>18758307 So which extremely tiring physical activity and endurance competition is it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:52:50 2018 No.18758351 >>18758339 A decathlon, just to be safe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:54:10 2018 No.18758359 >>18758351 Ah, okay, that makes sense.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:57:14 2018 No.18758376

>>18758286
I can read some of them, especially ones from Sōseki because they sound essentially modern, others have modern syntax obfuscated by literary morphology and expressions, but if someone like Shikibu Murasaki is being quoted I'm sometimes unsure where words begin and end, let alone what any of that means. I guess 25 years does sound realistic, just for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:57:19 2018 No.18758378 >>18758339 well i said triathlon because theres exactly 3 ways to input/output language : )

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:57:33 2018 No.18758382 If nihongo is a decathlon then AJATTing is like doping

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 19:58:27 2018 No.18758389 ajatting does in fact make your balls small and your hair fall out and you still dont become nihongo in the end

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:00:35 2018 No.18758401 Reading All The Time And Taking Amphetamines aka RATTATA

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:02:52 2018 No.18758418 Has everyone done their reps and daily reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:03:58 2018 No.18758423 Welp just saw it on Wikipedia that not even the Japanese themselves can read the shit that Shikibu wrote so I'm not gonna care until I sort out modern Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:05:21 2018 No.18758434 >>18758423 On þison geare se cyng Willelm heold his hired to Χp̃es mæssa on Gleaweceastre. to Eastron on Winceastre. to Pentecosten on Westmynstre. can you read this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:05:40 2018 No.18758437 >>18758276 It depends. I can read quite a few, but certainly not all or even most.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:06:49 2018 No.18758442 >>18758434 Oh Willelm, that minxy bitch

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:09:40 2018 No.18758461 >>18753229 >>18753232 Oh, you...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:10:16 2018 No.18758463 >>18758461 The two main functions of the human body.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:12:50 2018 No.18758483 true story i had a girl うんこ on me while doing セックス and it wasnt on purpose dont worry i dont have sex anymore thats why im here

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:15:28 2018 No.18758503 >>18758434 I couldn't guess "hired"... but I looked up a translation and it otherwise matched up. I'm sure there are less limpid examples of that variety of English.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:15:32 2018 No.18758505 >>18758483 What I learned from highly conservative Christian upbringing is that a person that once strayed from the path but then returned to the Path is stronger than people who've always been on the Path. So welcome, level 2 NEET.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:17:55 2018 No.18758522 >>18758505 im not a neet though but i am definitely trying to become a maho tukai

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:19:06 2018 No.18758532 >>18758522 You can't do it, m8, you've lost the wizarding potential when you fluff a woman's hooha and then sproyf in her gurflanch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:21:34 2018 No.18758549 >>18758532 cant i just get like one of those things high school drops outs get when they realize dropping out was a bad idea i dont care if im not able to be like the other maho tukais i just wana use maho even if its the most shit maho of them all

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:35:24 2018 No.18758639 >>18757719 /int/ is 4chan's language board. But you autists had to spaz out and ask for a safespace on /jp/ instead.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:38:02 2018 No.18758650

>Type up a long request for help explaining the sentence I'm having problems with and everything I've done to try to figure it out on my own so I don't look like a leech that isn't trying
>Figure it out on my own while typing it up and reviewing what I know about the sentence already.
>Again
Thanks again, DJT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:39:22 2018 No.18758657 >>18758639 it's not though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:39:34 2018 No.18758659 >>18758650 Any time, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:39:34 2018 No.18758660 >>18758650 dude japanese grammar is literally the easiest in the world, they don't even have grammar, what are you on about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:44:37 2018 No.18758697 Core is fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:48:16 2018 No.18758726 >>18758549 No. You'll never have it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:55:15 2018 No.18758782 >>18758726 sonnaッ・・

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:56:33 2018 No.18758793 >>18758660 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 20:57:53 2018 No.18758805 >>18758782 Should've thought of that before you let bird poop on girls' buttocks, anon

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:16:30 2018 No.18758941 [DELETED]

>>18758639
>But you autists had to spaz out and ask for a safespace on /jp/ instead.
At first, I just wanted the flags removed. Now from the screenshot of what the admin said, we were removed from /a/ because of all the blogging the normalfaggots were doing, like you.
So once again, thanks for getting us kicked off /a/, you cocking wrangling fuckstain

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:22:28 2018 No.18758981 File: 26 KB, 255x300, the absolute state.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] cocking wrangling fuckstain lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:26:57 2018 No.18759002 >>18758981 I hope I can read enough Japanese one day to find out if Japanese is as flexible with the cursing and the swearing and the poy-floxing as English is. I suppose it's also a matter of tone. A Scottish person can make "spoon" into an insult.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:29:22 2018 No.18759018 >>18759002 it is people might say "japanese doesn't have swears" but that just means that they're not as prude about keeping cussing out of schools and off TV as religious americans are

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:30:21 2018 No.18759030 >>18759018 Can you give me a creative Japanese swear? Not doubting you, I just want one to learn

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:30:24 2018 No.18759031 >>18759002 i spooned with you're mom last night

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:31:10 2018 No.18759035

>>18759002
theres no language that does it better than the one with fuck

the way nihongo is expressive with its "swearing" is sorta like the equivalent of like all the cool ways you can give somebody the finger but with words and with even more flavor

its just that at the end of the day youre still holdin up a finger

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:32:37 2018 No.18759044 >>18759030 クソ野郎

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:34:01 2018 No.18759057 >>18759035 Yeah, English is undoubtedly the best, but I wanted to know how good Japanese is as an insult factory. >>18759044 >can read this t-truly, I have gone one step further in Learning Japanese people's speak-system

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:37:28 2018 No.18759072 >>18759018 oh, this is with the exception of demographic slurs of course, those are still taboo

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:41:16 2018 No.18759089

>>18758657
From the 4chan rules page:

>/int/ - International

>This board is for the discussion of foreign culture and language. Please be respectful.
>Posting in languages other than English is allowed—and encouraged!
>All politics and current events belong on /pol/.

You're supposed to read the rules before posting here, phledditor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:42:21 2018 No.18759097 File: 689 KB, 2152x592, B09AF83A-D115-4B81-8F9D-72195E997066.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:42:34 2018 No.18759099 >>18759089 ok now read the rules for this board and tell me why this thread and any of its posts are allowed here check and mate mate

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:42:51 2018 No.18759107 >>18758941 /a/ has nothing to so with language learning, /int/ does. /int/ wasn't there when DJT began, so I get why it was made on /a/, but it should be on /int/ and only /int/, since it's the dedicated language board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:43:36 2018 No.18759116 >>18759097 "continue" my ninja..

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:43:57 2018 No.18759121 >>18759089 /int/ has literally nothing to do with foreign culture or languages, if you were here for more than 6 months you'd know that redditor-kun

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:44:06 2018 No.18759123 IT'S OUT https://youtube.com/watch?v=BzuLGmkihf4

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:44:21 2018 No.18759125 >>18759116 I know but write it out please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:44:37 2018 No.18759129 File: 60 KB, 1235x709, 69.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18759123

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:44:39 2018 No.18759130 >>18759072 >still taboo ピーシーが狂いすぎすぎ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:45:25 2018 No.18759139 >>18759097 続きから始める

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:45:41 2018 No.18759143 >>18759097 続きから始める

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:45:45 2018 No.18759144 >>18759125 tuduki kala hazimelu..

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:46:36 2018 No.18759149

>>18759130
idk man I get how sheltering kids from slurs actually helps keep those slurs from getting out of hand but treating them as taboo as we treat them also makes them more insulting than they should be when they do get used. in the case of slurs it's not as simple as extreme sheltering or extreme liberty being the right thing to do. but we've got another million years to figure this out, so let's let it happen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:46:37 2018 No.18759150 >>18759123 here's my dislike, thanks for your service as usual

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:46:44 2018 No.18759153 >>18759139 >>18759143 続きから始めるmind

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:46:44 2018 No.18759154 >>18759139 >>18759143 Yea thanks. Somehow I couldn’t figure out that was a き.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:47:37 2018 No.18759163 >>18759144 Um, I think you mean suzuki caller haw, gee mare you

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:47:48 2018 No.18759164 [DELETED]

>>18759099
Because a Brazilian and an Aussie threw a bitch fit on /qa/, and kept spamming multiple DJT thread on /jp/ in protest of being moved from /a/ to /int/. I can only guess that they either knew a mod or one of them became a mod, because they eventually caved when they didn't have to, and finally let this general be here as well as on /int/, where they originally decided it should be. The Daily Japanese Thread definitely belongs on the language board rather than on the otaku culture board with a bunch of VN and idol threads. You're delusional if you think otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:49:07 2018 No.18759176 最初から始める　＞　続きから始める Where my 最初 boys at?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:49:43 2018 No.18759181 >>18759163 i wrote it exactly how id type it except for a couple spaces is all dude >>18759164 i think all of them belong in the garbage and you should all assimilate into the "japanese" thread on int

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:50:36 2018 No.18759185 [DELETED]

>>18759164
Fucking knew it.

I fucking knew an Aussie is involved in here somewhere. Everything bad that ever happened to this pure, pristine blue boards of wholesome Christian entertainment is all due to those cricket-playing, sledge-shaming, salt sludge-spreading, cunt-flinging prisoner descendants.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:50:37 2018 No.18759184

>>18759121
You probably only think that because you're an EOP and you have nothing to read on /int/. They have generals for most of the popular languages, like French, Portuguese, etc. It is the only board that hosts language threads other than here, and they have multiple ones at that. They even have /lang/ which is a general about language learning in general.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:51:34 2018 No.18759191 >>18759185 Hi moot. Please just range ban all of Australia already.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:51:48 2018 No.18759193 >>18759185 the guy who posted DJT here after the aussie and didn't get banned/deleted for doing so - that is, the time that djt stopped being deleted here on /jp/ - was some japanese guy who was mad that there were two threads about japanese on /int/

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:52:16 2018 No.18759197 >>18759123 I'd much rather you rickroll me than this. I'd much rather you use a 2008 meme at me.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:53:03 2018 No.18759203

>>18759184
lmao the generals are all just for shitposting and no one actually cares about helping other people learn languages, just try and post in one of those shitholes and they will tell you to fuck off right away
/lang/ is a dying general and nobody posts on it anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:54:00 2018 No.18759208 File: 40 KB, 960x720, 1516504120817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >社会人

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:54:14 2018 No.18759211 >>18759197 here you go dude this is basically the (absolute) state of the djt currently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE66WA2s-A

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:57:48 2018 No.18759233 >>18759181 Huh, my IME uses the L key to make a "little" character. こぅぃぅことで.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:58:03 2018 No.18759234 [DELETED]

>>18759107
/int/ was created in 2010, newfriend. DJT was on /a/ because it was created by /a/nons, for /a/nons - that is, people who are interested in otaku media such as anime, manga and visual novels, and are learning the language for that purpose. You are and have always been the outsider.
Consider this: if you had spent all those months trying to attract /int/ users to the /int/ thread instead of getting unreasonably angry at people who you dislike and who want nothing to do with you, maybe your thread wouldn't be dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:58:12 2018 No.18759237 >>18757402 Katakana in general is fucking shit.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:58:53 2018 No.18759239

>>18759203
That's not true at all, at least for the ones I go to. Anyone who asks a language question in the French one gets bombarded with people happy to answer. Try it, you'll see. It's a way better learning environment, as opposed to here where nobody answers questions or helps, everyone just answers with stale sarcasm.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 21:59:00 2018 No.18759240
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>>18759185
>cricket-playing, sledge-shaming, salt sludge-spreading, cunt-flinging prisoner descendants.
I do sincerely apologize on behalf of simon, but all i want to do is read vns in peace

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:00:20 2018 No.18759248 >>18759234 >people who are interested in otaku media such as anime, manga and visual novels can someone teach the djt boys what otaku is if they learn no other nihongo word they should learn this one

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:00:26 2018 No.18759249 >>18759211 The absolute CLASSIC you've always been an outstanding poster in the few days I've been here, anon. I'd praise you in Japanese if I actually learned how to produce. As it is, I'll just shoot off several words 偉い！偉すぎる！詳しい知識を持った人！すんごーい！ありがとう

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:02:30 2018 No.18759261 [DELETED]

>>18759234
>/int/ was created in 2010, newfriend
You're the newfriend. /int/ existed back when DJT started, but not as the dedicated language board since you still had the textboards back then, and one of them was for languages. I think you're the outsider, you probably never even knew that there were textboards on here in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:02:32 2018 No.18759262 >>18759249 take note all my haters theres an actual cool person here who gets it youre gonna make it in nihongo and anything else you wanna do dude because you have a good attitude

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:04:07 2018 No.18759276 >>18759239 >nobody answers questions or helps Where does this meme come from? All of my questions received at least one decent answer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:04:45 2018 No.18759277 >>18759240 Wow, enough people actually reported that post with the aussie insults for it to get deleted. How much of a safespace phledditor do you have to be to get triggered by such light banter? This whole website is going to hell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:05:02 2018 No.18759281 Reminder to report and ignore shitposters

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:05:09 2018 No.18759282 >>18759261 Remember how /lang/ had Japanese language threads that existed alongside DJT on /a/, since it was obvious to everyone that they served different purposes?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:05:41 2018 No.18759285 >>18759281 done and done

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:06:05 2018 No.18759293 Is it just me or does Perfect Dark have fucking nothing? Where would I grab Japanese PS3 games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:06:24 2018 No.18759298 >>18759276 Most times it will just be an insult like ''are you retarded?'' or the classic ''read more'' when the question deserved an actual answer and the person could never figure out the answer from simply reading more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:07:44 2018 No.18759303 >>18759282 Yeah, one is for conversing in Japanese, the other is for learning. Both are still under the ''languages'' umbrella, so I don't see how that hasanything to do with being on a mismatched board like /a/ or /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:07:57 2018 No.18759306 >>18759277 >such light banter that anon insulted vegemite and no true blue will let that go.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:08:35 2018 No.18759314
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>>18759293
you dont even need to go on the japanese side of the web for that dude

>>18759298
uh the cool posting crew 2k18 staff has been working overtime to give the customer service these お客さんs need and deserve

maybe you should stop being blinded with hate and actually read all the posts instead of the ones you wanna see

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:08:50 2018 No.18759316 >>18759277 you don't belong here

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:10:07 2018 No.18759323 >>18759314 >you dont even need to go on the japanese side of the web for that dude That didn't answer my question.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:10:17 2018 No.18759327 [DELETED]

>>18759303
/lang/ was a language learning board. If you have no idea what you're talking about, you should have just answered honestly with "no, I don't remember because I wasn't there" instead of embarrassing yourself. There are even /lang/ archives floating around that anyone can browse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:10:40 2018 No.18759329 >>18759323 i didnt realize this was a warez thread eat a dick faggot! lmao

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:11:43 2018 No.18759336 [DELETED]

>>18759306
Actually it seems to just confirm what >>18759164 said about the Aussie either knowing the mod or being the mod himself. Mod aren't supposed to ban people insulting their nation and letting all other insults for other nations fly. I smell a conspiracy.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:11:57 2018 No.18759337
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genuine retarded question
Did anyone play FFXV in japanese?
If yes, could you tell me how difficult it was and how many words you've learned before starting.
please no bully

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:13:05 2018 No.18759344 File: 12 KB, 194x259, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18759336 >conspiracy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:13:08 2018 No.18759345 File: 42 KB, 500x500, 1504345448148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are some relatively easy Chinese cartoons?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:13:13 2018 No.18759346 >>18759337 if you have to play this question please dont play story based games youre just setting yourself up for failure right now unless your goal is to examine the text only and forego any video game entertainment then thats ok

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:13:57 2018 No.18759350 File: 731 KB, 721x768, 1520220889888.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18759337 >please no bully むりです

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:14:28 2018 No.18759353 >>18759327 >/lang/ was a language learning board. >was Yeah, it was, and now that mandate is filled by /int/ since /lang/ lacked traffic. Still doesn't explain why DJT shouldn't be exclusively on /int/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:14:33 2018 No.18759354 >>18759345 legend of condor hero

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:16:23 2018 No.18759365 >>18759353 Because it wasn't exclusively on /lang/ when that board existed, and because no one here wants anything to do with /int/. That's why the /int/ thread is dead and you're here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:16:35 2018 No.18759367 >>18759337 Don't bother, the game is shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:18:00 2018 No.18759379 >>18759367 amen to this noctis is a better tekken character than a final fantasy character

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:19:03 2018 No.18759387 [DELETED]

>>18759365
>and because no one here wants anything to do with /int/.
So if a group of people start posting loli threads on /k/, it's fine if it's because those people want nothing to do with /b/? There are reasons rules and dedicated boards exist, things shouldn't be posted anywhere just because of muh feels. Also, the /int/ thread dies because that board is faster than here, and the autists here divided the community because of muh feels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:19:14 2018 No.18759389 Yeah, 200 new cards is too much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:20:55 2018 No.18759401 >>18759387 The mods decide if it's fine. And the "community" is never going to be reunited because people like you were never part of it. I hope you don't actually believe posters in this thread would move to /int/ if they could no longer stay on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:22:32 2018 No.18759408 >>18759346 >if you have to play this question please dont play story based games you better be baiting m8

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:23:10 2018 No.18759412 >>18759401 good maybe theyd focus on becoming one with nihongo

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:24:57 2018 No.18759427 [DELETED]

>>18759401
>And the "community" is never going to be reunited because people like you were never part of it.
Muh sekret klub. This is what pisses me off the most, that it's either children or immature adults that actually split the community with their fucking high school clique bullshit.
>I hope you don't actually believe posters in this thread would move to /int/ if they could no longer stay on /jp/.
Nah, I'm betting they would return to phleddit, where moderators ensure a safespace for everyone by deleting everything that's moderately triggering for snowflakes. It seems to be what you want to turn this place into anyway. How about we compromise and you just fuck off right away?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:26:20 2018 No.18759439 File: 182 KB, 482x361, 1522329291309.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18759427 >Muh sekret klub >return to phleddit

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:27:58 2018 No.18759448

>>18759427
>split the community
Again, this never happened.
>How about we compromise and you just fuck off right away?
Compromise what, exactly? You're the one who spends hours on end voicing your dissatisfaction with this thread, I'm just informing you that you'll stay frustrated until you manage to move on. I don't need to go anywhere because I'm not an outsider - I already frequented /jp/ before DJT moved here and I'll stay here regardless of what happens.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:28:17 2018 No.18759449

I have encountered several 四字熟語 in my learning (still a beginner), the most recent being 意気投合, and all I've gotta say is:

It's fucking good, yo. I love it. It's not too long like 原子力発電所 or too short like 紫. That explanation doesn't make sense, but I just got a need to say to a bunch of anons that I. love. 四字熟語. It's sufficiently complex for me, like the kid bear's broth of Japanese kanji compounds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:29:17 2018 No.18759455 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuLGmkihf4 If you dont spend atleast 20 minutes making new cards with youre left hand you wont ever be fluent in ニポンゴ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:31:16 2018 No.18759465 File: 24 KB, 406x303, watasi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18759455

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:31:30 2018 No.18759467 >>18756047 It took me a year to hit 3k words. What the fuck are you doing? How many words are you doing per day?

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:31:35 2018 No.18759468 [DELETED]

>>18759448
>Again, this never happened.
There was no split, but we went from one DJT to two across two different boards? Not to mention the same group of autists trying to pull the same thing these past few weeks with OJT for no other reason than high school clique bullshit. I think history speaks for itself.
>You're the one who spends hours on end voicing your dissatisfaction with this thread
This is my first time discussing this here. Unless you guys have a new boogeyman? I see nothing has changed since the autistic fits that made us lose our place on /a/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:31:42 2018 No.18759470 >he shilled his vid the second time in this thread alone pathetic

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:32:18 2018 No.18759476 >>18759470 not just second time in the thread like second time in a half hour lmao

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:35:32 2018 No.18759500

>>18759468
What never happened is a "community" split, because there was never a community that you were part of. It was more like separating the wheat from the chaff. People like you forced your bullshit upon the /a/ threads with no regard for the pre-established culture or community there, because you didn't and don't belong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:36:48 2018 No.18759512 >>18759500 You sound ridiculous friend.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:37:41 2018 No.18759518
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M*tt is a fucking mess in that video and it's clear he has no clue what he is doing. There are far better methods to make better Anki cards in far less time. The dude hasn't learned Japanese because of his stupid method. He learned Japanese because of sheer exposure and autism and now attributes his success to worthless and outdated methods that he tries to sell to clueless and gullible children.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:38:04 2018 No.18759523 muh anonymous community get a trip not so i can filter you but so you can be true to yourself

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:38:50 2018 No.18759530

Decided to get off my ass and start learning Japanese instead of waiting for TL do get shit done (also as a programmer it will give me more things to do such as creating my own TL patches).
My only concern is my age might be considered a "too late" but I'll give it a go for a few months. I started with ANKI and did about 30 cards, I'm tempted to do more but I don't want to burn myself.
That's my blog, thanks for reading

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:39:37 2018 No.18759536

>>18759512
It doesn't matter how I sound because I don't need to convince anyone about anything. The reality is that DJT is on /jp/ - Otaku Culture, there is currently no thread up on /int/, and if there was, it would need to be periodically bumped from page 10 due to a lack of interest, activity and users.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:41:05 2018 No.18759547 >>18759518 >There are far better methods to make better Anki cards in far less time What did he do? I don't want to give him any attention

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:41:47 2018 No.18759553 >>18759518 so now you're going to try and avoid filters to post eceleb shit? can you kill yourself real quick like

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:41:58 2018 No.18759555 >>18759530 there is no "too late" anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:42:45 2018 No.18759560 Hey guys, I've got colon cancer and it's going to kill me tomorrow. Do you think I have enough time to learn Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:43:50 2018 No.18759566 >>18759560 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:44:03 2018 No.18759567 >>18759560 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:45:14 2018 No.18759574 >>18759560 yea youll have plenty of time in jigoku to work on your rohdoku lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:49:14 2018 No.18759591 >>18759574 His jigoku will be doing core 2k eternally, as by the time he was about to mature all the cards he'll forget everything. All he's left with is the nagging feeling that he remembered this word, but just can't remember it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:53:14 2018 No.18759619 >>18759591 lol now im thinkin of will smith in men in black going up to nuke marine and givin him the flash

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:53:36 2018 No.18759621 hey, /djt/, what's the closest thing Japnaese music had to Billy Joel? As in, the genre? By Billy Joel I meant songs like the Longest Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_XgQhMPeEQ

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:54:35 2018 No.18759629 [DELETED]

>>18759536
I hope you realize that mods change, and just like the new mods decided a change was in order and DJT had to be on /int/ instead of /a/, new mods could very well decide the same thing for this one. Don't take shit for granted, this situation won't last.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:54:47 2018 No.18759630 >>18759530 There is no age restrictions on learning languages. All you need is the will to learn the language and a lot of time spent reading and listening to the language

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:55:41 2018 No.18759638 >>18759621 you mean pop songs sung a capella well theres a lot of that lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:56:42 2018 No.18759643 >>18759530 Don't worry, just go at a good pace on Anki, and start reading when you're far enough in. The recommended amount of cards is 3k according to DJT's consensus, since that's where reading starts getting more comfortable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:57:16 2018 No.18759647 >>18759638 Well, preferably normal-to-slow in terms of singing speed, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 22:58:46 2018 No.18759659 >>18759621 you mean songs for fags who like gargling cum well theres a lot of that lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:00:00 2018 No.18759670 >>18759643 I haven't seen anyone come to a consensus regarding 3k.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:00:35 2018 No.18759673 >>18759670 I just did lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:01:31 2018 No.18759679 >>18759659 Yeah, that! Can you recommend me one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:04:00 2018 No.18759695 >>18759673 A couple people out of 100 posters does not make a consensus. It looks like somebody taking a strawpoll from DJT too seriously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:04:00 2018 No.18759696 >>18759670 We've had multiple strawpolls confirming that 3k was the comfort butter zone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:04:15 2018 No.18759697 >>18759696 False.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:04:46 2018 No.18759701 >>18759696 This is a lie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:05:38 2018 No.18759708 https://www.strawpoll.me/14781241/r https://www.strawpoll.me/14782862/r https://www.strawpoll.me/15420444/r https://www.strawpoll.me/15420440/r https://www.strawpoll.me/15420406/r

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:05:58 2018 No.18759710 get a LIFE

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:06:22 2018 No.18759713 >>18759643 >>18759696 Still memeing hard, I see.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:08:37 2018 No.18759729 >>18759708 All faulty polls made to discredit the real ones. >>18759697 >>18759701 >>18759713 What, pray tell, is the proper amount of words for reading to start being comfortable then?

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:09:13 2018 No.18759736

>>18759729
>All faulty polls made to discredit the real ones.
The first one is your "real" one, though.
>What, pray tell, is the proper amount of words for reading to start being comfortable then?
That was never the question, and even if it was, 3k is not the answer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:09:14 2018 No.18759737 >>18759729 this isnt how it works!!!!

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:09:24 2018 No.18759739

Anyone coming to 4chan for advice probably isn't smart enough to learn Japanese anyhow so you guys can stop role-playing as a properly functioning community and just throw some darts at a board with numbers on it and let that decide how many words this general recommends you know before you start reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:09:40 2018 No.18759744 >>18759729 Sure looks like a consensus there buddy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:10:18 2018 No.18759751 >>18759739 i agree with your sentiment but you dont have to be smart to learn nihongo theres lots of actually retarded/disabled people speaking it right now with a load in they drawers

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:11:24 2018 No.18759758 >>18759739 we did, the answer was 250~1500 depending on how bad your frequency list is

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:15:00 2018 No.18759784 File: 200 KB, 1921x1303, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:15:18 2018 No.18759786

>>18759736
>even if it was, 3k is not the answer.
Ok so humor me. What would the number be if that were the question?
>>18759737
Comfort level in reading is a real thing. Having to look less in dictionaries and speed of reading are both factors taken into account. 3k is the butter zone.
>>18759744
Well there's no consensus, but it's certainly unanimous though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:15:19 2018 No.18759787 File: 291 KB, 1200x798, jojo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18759739 >just throw some darts at a board I did it! Pic related is the result

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:15:39 2018 No.18759789 >>18759786 >Ok so humor me. What would the number be if that were the question? Something like 10k~20k.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:16:55 2018 No.18759799 >>18759739 >smart enough to learn Japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:17:18 2018 No.18759803 >>18759786 comfort level in reading is real thinking youre "reading" after doing 3000 flashcards is well par for the course of the djt shitshow

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:17:23 2018 No.18759804 This wouldn't be such a big deal if most of the people discussing this weren't absolute beginners.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:17:57 2018 No.18759808 >>18759789 Nah, that's way too comfortable. We're talking about less dictionary lookups and more speed in reading from a beginner's perspective. After you're past that first bump. I'd say it happens around 3k, wouldn't you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:18:11 2018 No.18759810 >>18759787 爆笑

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:18:20 2018 No.18759812 >>18759786 >there's no consensus, but it's certainly unanimous though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:18:42 2018 No.18759815 >>18759804 From now on, anyone discussing what number to start reading to make reading comfortable should do so in Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:18:44 2018 No.18759816 >>18759808 >We're talking about less dictionary lookups and more speed in reading from a beginner's perspective. Yeah, like I said, 10k~20k. >After you're past that first bump. No, the first bump ends at like the top 300 or 500 words.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:19:13 2018 No.18759821 File: 288 KB, 500x297, 1509663438558.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >3k irrelevant words taken from old newspapers

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:19:39 2018 No.18759826 >>18759787 大当たり lmao よくやったじゃん

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:20:06 2018 No.18759827 File: 4 KB, 552x122, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ah, yes, the most common words

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:21:14 2018 No.18759831 >>18759821 >irrelevant words You drop that belief after you mine 10k

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:22:31 2018 No.18759836 >>18759821 they write newspapers using as plain, basic language as they can in order to sell more of them, dumb snake

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:22:49 2018 No.18759837 Listen you guys, it's clear you are frustrated with doing core but can't actually do any reading either but instead of letting out your frustration by shitposting on DJT try changing your method.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:23:12 2018 No.18759840 >>18759831 They're definitely not the 3K most important words.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:24:46 2018 No.18759844 >>18759827 >vernal Why don't they just call it the spring equinox?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:24:52 2018 No.18759845 >>18759840 Oh I would agree with that, but you might as well learn them anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:25:07 2018 No.18759847 3k more like 3ゲイ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:25:19 2018 No.18759849 >>18759845 yeah... by reading or mining not before you can read at all

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:25:51 2018 No.18759852 >>18759836 maybe grammatically but certainly not the words used

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:26:09 2018 No.18759853 Do the Japanese have a word for when you've been watching the same fuccboi make the same "joke" over and over and over so often that you actually start to think it's funny?

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:26:10 2018 No.18759854

>>18759840
You know, now that I think about it, I wonder why the deck made from the Frequency Dictionary of Japanese aren't more popular, considering it does have the most common words from actual dictionarial research.

It does start with particles, though, so that's horrible, but after those are the genuinely most common words.

(dictionarial? what are the adjectives for pertaining to dictionaries?)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:26:55 2018 No.18759856 >>18759854 Lexical might work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:27:21 2018 No.18759858 >>18759854 no audio >dictionarial there isn't one based on the "dict" root, but if there were, it would be dictorial (which isn't an established word)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:27:24 2018 No.18759859 >>18759853 Oh come on, you've gotta admit >>18759787 is at least more creative. It just meant there's still some juice in this dead horse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:28:40 2018 No.18759863 >>18759853 スリーケー

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:28:46 2018 No.18759865 >>18759859 I >>18759810 did. And I smirked at >>18759847 too. He's getting to me. I think I might be ゲイ now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:30:07 2018 No.18759870 >>18759865 I much prefer that harmless joke of a meme than the current "3k" meme

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:30:28 2018 No.18759872 i've finished yotsuba, should I read mistuboshi colors? or is it far beyond my reach?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:32:47 2018 No.18759885 >>18759865 新しいホモダチが生まれてきた!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:33:50 2018 No.18759892 >>18759870 >Saying that 3k words is a point where reading is more comfortable than before reaching that point is harmful Well now, what would be a harmless number to say then, くそ顔さん?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:34:37 2018 No.18759897 >>18759892 That's not what you're saying. That's, quite literally, not what you're saying. It doesn't even imply what you're saying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:34:57 2018 No.18759900 >>18759892 69 is pretty harmless id say

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:35:02 2018 No.18759901 >>18759872 The logical progression would be to move on to itsutsuba

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:37:04 2018 No.18759911 >>18759827 Not irrelevant though. All words in core will come up while reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:38:39 2018 No.18759924 >>18759856 Ah, yeah. It's really annoying when there's a good word for something but it just escapes your mind, you know? >>18759858 >no audio Ah. Does the lack of audio really matter? Is it that big a dealbreaker.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:38:41 2018 No.18759925 [DELETED]

>>18759387
I'm sure you already realise it, but you're not going to get any further by arguing with the other guy than you would by arguing with a brickwall. If you want to make the case for a reunification of DJT onto /int/, then the place to do it is >>>/qa/, or through one of the methods described in >>>/qa/1690512.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:38:52 2018 No.18759928 >>18759911 yes im sure it's important to learn 春分 and 秋分 before 距離 and 結構. fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:40:10 2018 No.18759934 >>18759924 It happens to me all the time. Luckily, I come across that word a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:40:18 2018 No.18759936 >>18759897 That is what I'm saying, that is what the original poll asked, and that is what I experienced while learning the language. >>18759900 >69th word in core is 来年さすが

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:40:41 2018 No.18759942 >>18759928 I never said that. I was only making an argument against them being called irrelevant. No need to get so upset big man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:41:05 2018 No.18759945 >>18759942 stop arguing in bad faith

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:42:09 2018 No.18759952

>>18759936
You're lying through your teeth. The idea that 3k is the point where reading becomes comfortable and time effective is not the same as the idea that 3k is a point where it becomes more comfortable. Your absolute statement is not the relative statement you're trying to pretend it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:42:50 2018 No.18759959 flash cards dont help you understand words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSWgB4xMAU

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:44:01 2018 No.18759965 autism

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:44:09 2018 No.18759968 [DELETED]

>>18759925
I'm already in talks with a few moderators to get this thread moved to /int/ and have DJT only be on that board, and they seemed receptive to it with the strong case I made for it. We'll just have to wait and see if we can reverse all the mistakes made and go back to a time when the community was whole.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:45:35 2018 No.18759978 >>18759968 To be honest, I went to /jp/ only for the /djt/, so I suppose as long as it remained in a blue board I wouldn't mind. Unless it's in /v/, of course.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:45:47 2018 No.18759980

>>18759455
I don't even get what the point of this video is. You can sum the entire thing up with "You can get example sentences from dictionaries if you don't have the original sentence for a word" (which anyone who has used a dictionary before already knows), yet for some reason it goes on for 20 fucking minutes, and would've been even longer if he hadn't bumped up the speed for half of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:45:57 2018 No.18759981 >>18759518 What's wrong with Matt's method? Serious question

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:46:28 2018 No.18759982 >>18759952 It is the same point, since less dictionary lookups and more speed both cause comfort levels to blow gauges and also make the activity more time efficient. I don't see why you're making comfort and efficiency mutually exclusive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:46:48 2018 No.18759983 >>18759982 It's not the same point and you know that you're being dishonest. Stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:47:12 2018 No.18759989 Time for your daily dose of "I may be クソ at Japanese but at least I'll never be this クソ" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkkdyqfoqoE

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:47:27 2018 No.18759990 >>18759968 >int thread is dead >lets drag all the people here there, that'll work kek

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:47:32 2018 No.18759992

>>18759982
>I don't see why you're making comfort and efficiency mutually exclusive.
He's not. He's saying that you're pretending you've been pushing something you haven't been pushing, that you've been pushing something else. Fuck off and stop being manipulative.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:47:41 2018 No.18759993 >>18759547 It's a 20 minute video where he basically shows you how to copy-paste example sentences from EPWING dictionaries in case you found a word in a physical book and couldn't be bothered to type out the original sentence it appeared in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:47:44 2018 No.18759995 >>18759978 So did I. This board is pretty much autism and cancer, I don't see why some people prefer it over /int/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:48:31 2018 No.18759999 >>18759901 what is that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:48:40 2018 No.18760003 >>18759995 so, why are you here if you hate it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:48:51 2018 No.18760006 >>18759995 djt is autism and cancer no matter where it goes it will forever be shit until the people that have been here 5 years or whatever are gone

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:49:05 2018 No.18760007 >>18759968 A large amount of the /jp/ djt denizens hate /int/ normalfags and flags only make it worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:49:23 2018 No.18760010 How many cards into core should I start reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:49:52 2018 No.18760015 >>18760010 1000 at the most because core is such garbage

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:50:13 2018 No.18760018 >>18760010 2974. If you go over that even by one, you will never learn Japanese.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:50:25 2018 No.18760019

>>18759992
I know what I'm pushing, and it's comfort and efficiency (time/benefit) start kicking in around 3k. I've never changed this statement, and if you think so, then maybe it wasn't me you were talking to, but rather one of the large number of people who agree with the 3k golden rule.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:50:53 2018 No.18760023 >>18759993 >copy-paste example sentences from EPWING dictionaries I've been doing that. With Kenkyuusha since I'm still a beginner, but still, how does explaining that method takes 20 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:51:18 2018 No.18760028 >>18760010 836

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:51:56 2018 No.18760030 Wait wait hang on You're supposed to learn 3k words before you start reading? That's impossible! You can't learn a word without reading it! Checkmate, atheists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:52:04 2018 No.18760032 >>18760019 you never know when to give up don't you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:52:13 2018 No.18760033 >>18760010 シックスナイン

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:52:26 2018 No.18760036 >>18760019 >large number I'm not sure I've seen evidence of this.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:52:37 2018 No.18760037

>>18760019
>I know what I'm pushing, and it's comfort and efficiency (time/benefit) start kicking in around 3k
Cool.

>I've never changed this statement
Yes you did.

>>18759892
>Saying that 3k words is a point where reading is more comfortable than before reaching that point
This is not what you are pushing. "X is a point where Y becomes more Z" (relative) is not the same thing as "X is the point where Y becomes Z" (absolute). You intentionally worded it in a way that was relative in that post in order to make it seem like you were pushing something less objectionable and extreme. Not only that, there is not consensus that holds your belief, no matter how many times you say that there is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:52:42 2018 No.18760039 >>18759989 なんで？見たけど、こんなに音読できるなんてすごいじゃん。

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:53:07 2018 No.18760042 >>18760010 I started with 400

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:53:07 2018 No.18760043 [DELETED]

>>18760003
It's where the community is. But let's face it, it's only because we have to, not because we want to.
>>18760007
I prefer flags and normalfags over people jerking off to porn cartoons and autism. But /int/ isn't even normalfags, they hate normalfags too. You're only calling them that because they have jobs, which is pretty stupid in its own right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:53:16 2018 No.18760046 >>18760030 read and learn this: わたしはゲイ

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:53:27 2018 No.18760047 >>18760033 六十九？

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:53:39 2018 No.18760048 >>18760043 here's a bright idea: remove djt from your life

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:54:10 2018 No.18760050 >>18760010 University studies show that 3k cards into core2/6k is where comfort level is accrued.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:54:19 2018 No.18760051 >>18760036 that's because there is none

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:55:26 2018 No.18760061 File: 82 KB, 1085x635, 1522726961223.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760050 and autismo studies show that 250~500 cards into vnfreqlist is where comfort level stops rising so radically

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:55:35 2018 No.18760063 >>18760050 Source?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:56:16 2018 No.18760073 >>18760036 It's all in the archives my friend. Get crackin'! >>18760037 I never spoke in absolutes. Again, maybe that was another 3k fan, not me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:56:32 2018 No.18760074 >>18760043 You dont have to be here to learn japanese. Infact if you hate /jp/ djt just leave, its detrimental to your learning anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:57:10 2018 No.18760079 >>18760073 >I never spoke in absolutes. Yes you did. >it's comfort and efficiency (time/benefit) start kicking in around 3k This is an absolute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:57:13 2018 No.18760080 >>18760050 >>18760061 Source for this, and source for that graph? Mostly I want to know how 'comfort level' is defined and measured.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:57:17 2018 No.18760082 >>18760043 >it's only because we have to, not because we want to Yeah, that's why your thread is dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:58:25 2018 No.18760086 File: 311 KB, 2000x2198, come on boy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >start core6k >learn shit like "bicycle" before numbers, colors, etc.

Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:58:36 2018 No.18760088
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>>18760043
>But /int/ isn't even normalfags, they hate normalfags too. You're only calling them that because they have jobs
damm, how many kcal do you burn with those kind of mental gymnastics
must be quite a sum

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 4 23:58:38 2018 No.18760089 >>18760073 >burden of proof Sure buddy.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:00:07 2018 No.18760097

>>18760061
So this confirms my point, that core2/6k is a bad frequency list, and that the point is shifted up. He just happens to say that it shifts it up to 1-2k, I happen to think that the core deck is such a bad frequency list that the point is shifted up to 3k instead. Sorry for not sucking off the core deck as much as you autismos.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:00:28 2018 No.18760100

>>18760080
>Mostly I want to know how 'comfort level' is defined and measured.
the y axis is a measure of comprehension that grows linearly when far from zero, calculated based on coverage via e^(-ln(1-coverage))
coverage is a measure of how many instances of words in the text you know. that graph excludes particles and other strictly grammatical words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:00:36 2018 No.18760102 File: 51 KB, 1019x611, DXzQPuvV4AEY8GI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >start core6k >learn how to say "communism" before sneeze, jump, slap, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:00:45 2018 No.18760103 >>18760043 >But /int/ isn't even normalfags, they hate normalfags too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:00:45 2018 No.18760104 >>18760082 the int thread isnt dead they are all learning nihongo whats dead is this thread and you all are maggots sucking on its disgusting rotting corpse

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:00:58 2018 No.18760105 >>18760097 extremely doubtful. core2k/6k is bad, but it's not so bad that 90% of its top words are rather uncommon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:01:22 2018 No.18760110 >>18760086 "show new cards in order added"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:01:38 2018 No.18760111 >>18760079 >This is an absolute. No, it's a scale. >>18760080 Comfort level is defined through less dictionary lookups coupled with speed of reading (words/min).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:02:07 2018 No.18760115 >>18760111 >No, it's a scale. "comfort and efficiency (time/benefit) start kicking in" is an absolute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:05:37 2018 No.18760128 >>18760061 but there's no vnfreqlist deck

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:07:17 2018 No.18760135 >>18760128 yeah well if you do the first 1k in core and start reading you're going to learn the missing words from the top 250~500 in like a week or two just by means of how incredibly common they are source: happened to me

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:07:17 2018 No.18760136
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>>18760088
I wanted to find the VN source of that image, and got pic related instead.

I did not realize there was such truth in Doraemon. It was the very first work I've ever read (in any language) and to this day it had a deep impression on me, and again in Japanese it seems to have gained new power.

Does this mean essentially "thinking that you'll easily gain something just because you want it is naive"? Am I in the right ballpark?

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:07:23 2018 No.18760137

>>18760115
No because there's a time where you're spending more time looking up words than time spent actually reading, and then you get to a point where it gradually shifts to about the same amount of time for both, and finally you reach a point where you're reading more than you're looking up words. That point is around 3k, a lot more than around 2k and definitely more than around 1k.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:07:56 2018 No.18760141

>>18760104
Come to think of it, since there's no chance I'll actually be posting in a place with flags that constantly triggers my autism with improper memes and speech patterns, and since this thread is mainly a waste of time, I'll be better off if DJT is booted from /jp/ and I never see it again. Everyone wins?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:08:03 2018 No.18760142 >>18760137 Anon, your logic is completely incoherent. It's full of incredibly stupid assumptions and leaps of logic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:09:17 2018 No.18760148 >>18760141 The guy who dedicates his life to this loses no matter what happens: https://archive.whatisthisimnotgoodwithcomputers.com/int/search/text/jp%20djt/country/CA/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:09:38 2018 No.18760150 >>18760136 >It was the very first work I've ever read (in any language) I hate when weebs reinvent their past to make it more similar to Japanese kids' childhood. No western parent introduces Doraemon to their kids before anything else, stop lying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:10:21 2018 No.18760152 >tfw started reading at 600 cards >as of now im at 750

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:10:34 2018 No.18760154 >>18760128 >>18760061 I downloaded the list, what is each column? I want to make a deck for you autists

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:10:59 2018 No.18760157 >>18760154 which one did you download

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:11:09 2018 No.18760160 >>18760148 Muh leaf boogeyman.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:11:26 2018 No.18760163 >>18760150 compared to japan everything is the west but maybe this was somewhere not as west as youre thinking my ninja..

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:11:39 2018 No.18760165 >>18760157 "Frequency list of non-grammatical terms"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:12:04 2018 No.18760168 >>18760165 what's the very first number in the file

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:12:30 2018 No.18760175

>>18760150
Ah, apologies. I'm not Western, I'm Indonesian. Maybe my parents introduced me to something else, but the very first thing I remembered trying to read was Doraemon. It was the very first work I was interested in, because I love blue. Doraemon Daichohen (or "Petualangan Doraemon" in my native language) remains my favourites.

I was genuinely very surprised when /a/ doesn't seem to have a nostalgia for Doraemon. Doesn't seem like Doraemon is popular as Western children's cartoons too. My Indian friend seems aware of it, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:15:36 2018 No.18760194 >>18760175 doraemon was never a thing in the west if it was that would have been the "djt recommended" first manga instead of shit literally made for 30 year old virgins like yotuba

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:16:50 2018 No.18760201 >>18760168 45859.3667234176

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:17:00 2018 No.18760204 >>18760148 Imagine being that obsessed.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:18:07 2018 No.18760210

>>18760175
Can confirm. In the west Doraemon was probably something you would find on a pencil bag in like 2005, thats it. And last time i was in the Phils and didnt have cable Flip dubs of Doraemon would occasionally be on tv so yea its more popular in the east. Not to mention the countless punjabi dubs you can find on youtube

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:19:54 2018 No.18760220

>>18760194
>never a thing in the west
What a shame, what a shame. I mean, what anime do they get instead? Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon? With some Saint Seiya if you're born in the southern part of Americas?

wait wait
Was dekisugi named so because he is "able to do" "too much/many" things?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:20:14 2018 No.18760223 >>18760204 He may be obsessed, but he's pretty much spot on about everything he says.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:22:13 2018 No.18760232 >>18760220 The west produce cartoons for young kids of similar or higher quality than what's in Japan. No need to import it from Japan.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:25:39 2018 No.18760255 [DELETED]

>>18759968
To be honest, I'm all for the threads moving to /int/. Ever since DJT moved to /jp/, the levels of autism have gone through the roof, and lately it's just getting worse and worse and worse (see the recent OJT fiasco for example). We used to get the odd shitstorm of autism on /a/ as well, but in basically every single thread here there's some huge argument about bullshit that nobody cares about, and so little in the way of actual meaningful discussion anymore.

Whenever I've checked the /int/ threads in the past, the atmosphere has always been far more constructive than the one here. Maybe the fact that the /int/ threads weren't on such an elitist board did a lot to tone down the general autism and encourage more constructive posting. The only thing they were really lacking in was activity thanks to the threads being split in two, and that's the reason why I ended up primarily staying over here all this time despite the threads being worse.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:25:49 2018 No.18760257

>>18760201
okay i'm going to assume you're using one of the new frequency lists

49496.962560832224 動詞非自立可能 * * スル為る和用

these are the fields that belong to the "dictionary entry" of the first word in the list. the fields after these ones are specific spellings of it, in a similar format.

https://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~mine/japanese/nlp+slp/UNIDIC_manual.pdf

0: frequency (parts per million) (estimate)
1: pos1
2: pos2
3: pos3
4: pos4
5: lForm
6: lemma
7: goshu
8: type

you're probably going to have to make multiple cards for some entries or merge some entries together because of how analysis dictionaries work

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:25:55 2018 No.18760258

>>18760220
youre gonna find theres a lot of a characters with fun names in all kinds of manga/anime

>>18760232
doraemon was real ninja shit though that teaches you the right way to live

rarely does western shit for kids really do that
maybe more in the 70s and 80s but certainly not in the era of shit like spongebob

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:26:10 2018 No.18760259 >>18760232 Fair enough. Maybe Western kids would be better served with things like Phineas and Ferb. I wonder if Doraemon, which is still running, is still even popular with the kids today. They don't show it anymore in Indonesia, that's all I know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:26:20 2018 No.18760260 >>18760255 way too much effort for astroturfing

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:26:56 2018 No.18760265 >>18760232 maybe in the past nowadays it's all dumb down garbage

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:28:56 2018 No.18760271 >>18760232 Someone hasn't watched children's cartoons in years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:29:55 2018 No.18760275 >>18760255 I would maybe go on the IRC where the mods are and show support for the idea then, maybe it'll make things move quicker. Let's get this done! >>>/qa/1690512

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:30:55 2018 No.18760279
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>>18760258
>youre gonna find theres a lot of a characters with fun names in all kinds of manga/anime
Holy shit

holy shit holy shit holy shit

why did I just get this now holy shit

ahahaha, Doraemon, 最高うううう

Maybe instead of Yotsuba, I should just study by reading Doraemon in Japanese. I hope it's available in the cornucopia.

God fuck, did not expect to have my head blown today

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:30:58 2018 No.18760280 >>18760148 His constant usage of "we" makes me uncomfortable. I don't understand why he wants to have this DJT killed though. Where will the renchu go?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:32:00 2018 No.18760286 >>18760280 a thread with no title, general OP image, or link to the previous thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:32:16 2018 No.18760287 japanese cartoon: teaches you about nakama, kizuna and pafupafu western cartoon: lol farts!! i think it's clear which one is yuushuu (that means superior btw)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:32:23 2018 No.18760289 >>18760271 Well I'm older and I don't have kids. I was talking more about when I was growing up as a kid in the late 80s-early 90s, around the time Indonesia-kun grew up I'm guessing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:32:50 2018 No.18760292 >>18760257 Here's my entire first line: 45859.3667234176 和動詞非自立可能 * サ行変格為るスルするスルスル 0 504619 するスルスル * 99

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:33:02 2018 No.18760293 >>18760275 ヨシ全艦出撃 lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:34:23 2018 No.18760299 >>18760287 farts are pretty epic ftw though

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:34:34 2018 No.18760301 >>18760287 >lol farts!! You're talking about stuff like Spongebob, but that's not the target age for Doraemon. Spongebob is for 8-12, Doraemon is more 4-8. Find a better equivalent.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:34:53 2018 No.18760303

>>18760292
the version you have is pretty old and has a different format, download the new one http://wiki.wareya.moe/Frequency%20lists

the frequency list is changed occasionally whenever i improve the analysis tools or add new scripts, so check the edit history (Info) of the page once in a while

I won't change the format again so if I update it you can match words based on the first eight fields after their frequency

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:35:45 2018 No.18760307 >>18760287 Doraemon had a lot of naked shots of Shizuka. That's why it's the best, now I prefer girls like Shizuka as well

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:35:53 2018 No.18760308

>>18760303
>the frequency list is changed occasionally whenever i improve the analysis tools or add new scripts, so check the edit history (Info) of the page once in a while
actually now that I think about it it's just a link to a file I'll be updating without renaming, so you should just open the frequency list once in a while to see if it changed

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:37:17 2018 No.18760315 >>18760280 Oh sorry, he doesn't. It's the guys here who want this DJT killed. In that case I don't get it other than wanting this shit thread off /jp/ (respectable) and pouring its contents into the /int/ one (?).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:37:35 2018 No.18760316 >>18760303 I'm still not entirely sure how to read this list. I don't know Japanese, I'm just a guy slaving away at core. Is there an explanation for retards you could give me?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:40:12 2018 No.18760324 >>18760232 >west produces superior material to Japan Wait, wait, is this /jp/? Is this really /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:40:37 2018 No.18760327 >>18760316 sounds like you dont have any right to be callin no one a retarded my ninj..

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:41:39 2018 No.18760334 >>18760324 dont worry djts going byebye soon

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:44:55 2018 No.18760349 >>18760255 >>18759968 Nobody is stopping you from moving to /int/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:46:26 2018 No.18760358 File: 137 KB, 1512x750, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760316

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:47:34 2018 No.18760364 File: 137 KB, 1512x750, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760316 >>18760358 Also you'll want to keep in mind the difference between the parts marked in red.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:48:09 2018 No.18760368 File: 137 KB, 1512x750, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760364 i'm an idiot and meant to mark this part, not the other part

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:48:53 2018 No.18760373 >>18760349 It's a question of consolidating a split community. Also, even though the mod tolerated the thread here, this is a language thread, and ultimately belongs on /int/ and only /int/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:49:34 2018 No.18760378 >>18760255 >>18759968 Nobody is stopping you from moving to /int/ >>18760043 >I prefer flags and normalfags over people jerking off to porn cartoons In fact, I'm not sure what you're doing here in the first place

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:49:56 2018 No.18760383 >>18760373 please quote the part in the rules that says that japanese language threads are only allowed on int

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:53:11 2018 No.18760395

>>18760373
Not him, but why can't you all move to /jp/, if you care about "community unification"? I don't think the majority will voluntarily move to /int/ and this thread has enough autism to sustain itself in contrast to the one in /int/. So why not move to /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:53:49 2018 No.18760401 >>18760395 because they're severely obsessed with using the /jp/ thread as a boogeyman

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:54:01 2018 No.18760402 >>18760395 >you all It's just an autist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:57:22 2018 No.18760415 File: 62 KB, 431x230, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760383 はい, 先輩!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 00:58:23 2018 No.18760421 >>18760415 i believe this is a fake i can tell by the pixels

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:00:32 2018 No.18760432 You're delusional if you think people will suddenly post on /int/ if this one is disallowed. You might want to cool your hatred a little and realize why more people are here in the first place and why /int/ died

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:00:55 2018 No.18760435 File: 56 KB, 1303x705, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760415

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:02:06 2018 No.18760439 [DELETED]

>>18759968
Good, then OJT can remain here and you and the fags on /int/ can make your own op, guide and resources, since it was all made by and for anons, not obnoxious normalfags who get offended at a particularly anime and manga orientated language learning thread being centered around such related otaku media. Nothing about the op or this thread is remotely /int/ related. It's an /a/ thread moved from /a/ due to the excessive influx of /int/ faggotry, the same fags who ruined the threads on /a/ with /int/ garbage who aren't content with having it killed just the once. Do you understand that you represent a parasite killing a host? Your kind were responsible for fracturing the community. Do you understand that you represent a parasite killing a host? You are part of the problem.
Go to /int/ and build your own DQN - Daily Quintessential Normalfaggotry threads. Link your favourite e-celebs, Discord channels and Reddit boards and use that as your op on /int/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:02:14 2018 No.18760440 >>18760432 sounds like a win-win

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:03:03 2018 No.18760443 >>18760439 ban evasion

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:03:34 2018 No.18760446 >>18760439 hate to break it to ya my kunobitchi but you the dqn lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:03:34 2018 No.18760447 File: 40 KB, 477x320, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760421 It is NOT fake, I also screenshotted the rules beneath!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:03:37 2018 No.18760448 >>18760439 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:04:01 2018 No.18760451 >>18760447 i believe this is a fake i can tell by the pixels

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:04:17 2018 No.18760454 What should I read after I'm done the first volume of Yotsubato? I don't think I plan on reading through the next eleven volumes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:04:19 2018 No.18760455 >>18760439 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:04:22 2018 No.18760457 >>18760415 >>>/global/rules/15

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:04:43 2018 No.18760459 >>18760454 Why not?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:05:27 2018 No.18760460 >>18760454 とらぶる

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:05:35 2018 No.18760461 >>18760439 This to be honest /int/ thread died for a reason

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:06:06 2018 No.18760463 >>18760378 >In fact, I'm not sure what you're doing here in the first place Crossboarder, like most people on this website. Most people are only here on /jp/ because DJT is here, nothing else. 48 group idols can't die in a grease fire for all I care.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:06:14 2018 No.18760464 File: 97 KB, 1920x1080, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760457 ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:06:44 2018 No.18760467 >>18760439 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:09:29 2018 No.18760476 >>18760463 You can create a thread on /int/ for yourself and all your like-minded pals at this very moment.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:09:39 2018 No.18760477

>>18760463
I already posted on /jp/ before I started posting on DJT. I would imagine most new posters found this thread by browsing /jp/. Also, /jp/ already had occasional Japanese language threads years ago, there have always been people here interested in learning Japanese, and the untranslated VN thread always redirects Japanese questions to this thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:11:23 2018 No.18760485 >>18760463 You can create a thread on /int/ for yourself and all your like-minded pals at this very moment. I'm sure they'll be very happy to leave this weeb pedo cesspit.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:11:23 2018 No.18760486
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>>18760439
hey did you ever play the smash hit all ages visual novel rewrite?

well when the worlds in crisis i appear and well you havent quite made with the 良い思い出s so its time to scrap ando scrap my ninja

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:11:53 2018 No.18760492 >>18760459 I don't really get any enjoyment out of it and it's not because I just started to read. I'll probably read the rest in the future (when it'll take much less time) though, for the sake of it. >>18760460 Might give it a try. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:12:05 2018 No.18760493 >>18760464 >Windows

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:12:13 2018 No.18760494 stop deleting your own posts to make it look like meido is deleting them

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:14:03 2018 No.18760504

>>18760451
No, his is actually legit:
https://www.4chan.org/rules#int
/int/ - International
1. This board is for the discussion of foreign culture and language. Please be respectful.
2. Posting in languages other than English is allowed—and encouraged!
3. All politics and current events belong on /pol/.

And the Japanese language is not listed as a topic that /jp/ is intended for under /jp/'s rules:
https://www.4chan.org/rules#jp
/jp/ - Otaku Culture
1. All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).
2. This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:14:34 2018 No.18760508 >>18760504 none of that says it's forbidden here

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:14:41 2018 No.18760509 >>18760439 >blaming /int/ for getting kicked off /a/ I'm starting to see that it's people like you that's the problem, not /int/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:15:06 2018 No.18760510 >>18760504 >diverse niche Japanese interests hmmmm >>18760494 If you're talking to me this is not why I'm deleting them

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:15:13 2018 No.18760512 >>18760504 >1. This board is for the discussion of foreign culture and language. Please be respectful.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:15:43 2018 No.18760517 [DELETED]

>>18760508
here check out these epic rules

1. All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

and also

1. All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

and another good one

1. All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

and last but not least

1. All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:16:12 2018 No.18760520 >>18760517 guess what's a diverse niche japanese interest japanese linguistics lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:16:29 2018 No.18760522 >>18760463 >Most people are only here on /jp/ because DJT is here Think for a moment, why it is so. You can create an /int/ thread anytime, but instead /djt/ is here. Really makes me think

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:16:57 2018 No.18760527 >>18760520 this isnt the niche linguistics thread my ninja you lose

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:17:20 2018 No.18760528 >>18760527 language acquisition is the primary application of applied linguistics

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:17:21 2018 No.18760529 >>18760508 All images and discussion should pertain to... = This board is not for posting things besides... >>18760510 Language isn't a niche interest. Look at the things it gives as examples for comparison: kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:18:03 2018 No.18760532 >>18760528 not niche not diverse not this thread またチャレンジしてね

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:18:23 2018 No.18760535 >>18760439 Please see a doctor about your paranoid persecution complex.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:18:28 2018 No.18760536 >>18760527 You wouldn't call learning Japanese to read Japanese 2D porn a niche interest?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:18:38 2018 No.18760537 >>18760535 This.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:19:00 2018 No.18760539 [DELETED]

>>18760477
>Also, /jp/ already had occasional Japanese language threads years ago, there have always been people here interested in learning Japanese, and the untranslated VN thread always redirects Japanese questions to this thread.
You're just choosing the narrative that suits your needs at any given moment. People were saying exactly what you're saying but about /a/ instead of /jp/ not too long ago. Thing is, people on /jp/, /a/ or wherever else can stop being autistic cunts, open /int/ in a new tab and browse DJT on the fucking language board where it belongs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:19:31 2018 No.18760542 >>18760532 That's not what diverse means in that sentence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:19:41 2018 No.18760544 >>18760539 please read this post as though it were a response to yourself >>18760542 this

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:19:49 2018 No.18760546

>>18760504
Japan is special so the reason most topics are on /jp/ is because they're Japanese. Conceivably, Japanese is in turn not just a language, but indeed, the Japanese language, so it goes to /jp/ just because it's Japanese.

>>18760529
Actually learning Japanese is a very niche interest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:20:46 2018 No.18760552 >>18760539 I'm just saying that my reasons for browsing /jp/ have nothing to do with DJT, and I'm probably not the only one. I don't care about /a/ or /int/.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:21:27 2018 No.18760556

>>18760536
>>18760546
learning japanese is not a niche interest

learning hiroshima ben is a niche interest

you idiots dont know what otaku means so this is not surprising that you dont know simple eigo either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEo87oaQXZY

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:21:51 2018 No.18760558 >>18760539 Why don't you be the first to stop being an autistic cunt and go create djt on /int/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:22:06 2018 No.18760561 >>18760556 learning otaku japanese is a niche interest, why do you think we know words like 精液る but not 国会

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:22:17 2018 No.18760562 >>18760536 A poster's intentions behind posting isn't important and no one cares. You can't start posting weapons on /g/ saying it's because you plan on building a ak47 shaped computer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:23:02 2018 No.18760569 >>18760556 It has to be a niche interest, when the /int/ thread dies without a bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:23:22 2018 No.18760573 >>18760569 nice

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:23:41 2018 No.18760574

>>18760194
Yotsuba is a better series in general and its popularity on 4chan has nothing to do with what was popular locally in English speaking countries. It is published for the same age demographic as Doraemon. Going by your logic, Dragon Ball would be the main recommendation, since it was actually a thing in the west.

Either stop being a contrary hipster or lurk at least two years before posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:23:46 2018 No.18760576 >>18760569 Savage

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:23:53 2018 No.18760578 >>18760539 Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing a shitposter base their "argument" on the rules.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:24:58 2018 No.18760585

>>18760539
how is /int/ a language board when everyone over there speaks English and like 1% of people speak a foreign language, 95% of that 1% speaking Japanese in one of the Japanese threads and 5% being someone's shitty attempt at speaking German or something, usually incomprehensible and ignored by all

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:25:07 2018 No.18760587 >>18760569 it wasnt dying before you dragged the dying heap of flesh you call a thread to this shithole board after i fuckin punted that shit out of the /a/ stadium

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:27:15 2018 No.18760598 >>18760587 If the community in /int/ can't sustain a japanese learning thread by itself, I would say it would have died anyway

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:27:27 2018 No.18760600 >>18760587 It's as if people learning Japanese prefer /jp/ to /int/ for some reason, hmm

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:28:12 2018 No.18760607 >>18760578 Fine, start posting loli on /k/ then if the rules aren't important. Now that you've been properly BTFOd by the rules, they're suddenly unimportant? Please. Enjoy this while it lasts, tomod8.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:29:41 2018 No.18760614

>>18760439
>not obnoxious normalfags who get offended at a particularly anime and manga orientated language learning thread being centered around such related otaku media.
It's clear that you've never even once visited the threads over there and are just believing about them whatever you want to believe.

Here you go. An archive of all threads those evil, otaku hating normalfags have made:
https://desuarchive.org/int/search/subject/djt/
...Oh, well would you look at all those anime-themed OP images. It's almost like you're full of shit, huh? Or maybe just delusional. Your post doesn't read at all like something typed by someone in their right mind.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:29:49 2018 No.18760616 [DELETED]

>>18760598
good riddance either way

>>18760600
who cares what you want? make djt offsite if you want to run it independent of everything else

why do you think people say /djt/ lol

just a buncha poop boys playing with excrement

but this shits goin down the flusher one more time boys

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:31:33 2018 No.18760628 >>18760616 What happened to the actual good Japanese thread you said you were going to make? Someone needs to free us from the shackles of the general format.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:31:51 2018 No.18760630 >>18760616 The only one going down the flusher is you, friendo >who cares what you want lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:34:24 2018 No.18760648 >>18760607 You're retarded, my man. NSFW loli is explicitly restricted to /b/, while this thread is not restricted to /int/. A better comparison would be /ak/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:34:48 2018 No.18760655 >>18760628 its comin dude just be patient what do you think would happen if i told them i was making a thread for big boys? theyd come poop on it first things first >>18760630 haha solid just sit ya ass down

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:35:25 2018 No.18760660 >>18760614 the 4chan brand of normalfag posts anime all the time now, in a manner that's unique to them, it's telling that they think this makes them something else

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:39:17 2018 No.18760676 >>18760660 this

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:45:18 2018 No.18760699 [DELETED]

>>18760546
>Actually learning Japanese is a very niche interest.
Yeah, very. That's why the internet is full to bursting with sites about learning Japanese, expat vloggers/bloggers living in Japan, etcetera. That's why Japanese is a more commonly studied language at US universities than Chinese and even certain European languages like Italian.

Japanese is not some obscure, niche topic.

>Conceivably, Japanese is in turn not just a language, but indeed, the Japanese language, so it goes to /jp/ just because it's Japanese.
Okay, so let's follow that logic and post all threads about Japanese video games from now on on /jp/ instead of /v/ or /vg/. They're not niche at all, but who cares, they're Japanese, right? While we're at it, lets bring all anime and manga threads from /a/ here too.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:49:49 2018 No.18760727
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>general has a total meltdown
>same fagging, false flagging, going full retard and making shit up in order to "prove" their point
wow, so this is how concentrated autism looks like

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:50:17 2018 No.18760733 >>18760727 just one guy dude

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:50:43 2018 No.18760736

>>18760660
Don't try to move the goal posts. Anyone can go and read what you initially wrote and were arguing.

>who get offended at a particularly anime and manga orientated language learning thread
...And yet they are using anime images to start all their threads.

You're not only suffering from persecutory delusions, but are also a vindictive liar it seems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:52:17 2018 No.18760747 >>18760727 If that's how you describe this thread in ''meltdown mode'', then it's been this way since its inception.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:53:12 2018 No.18760754 File: 176 KB, 494x468, 1521194642880.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760148

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:54:05 2018 No.18760758

>>18760699
Not really (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_commonly_learned_foreign_languages_in_the_United_States#Colleges_and_universities).). Only 4% of the population take Japanese. Just because you hang out with other autists doesn't mean Japanese is now not a niche language. Besides, no one wants to learn Chinese, because it's an authoritarian shithole and Italy is according to Wikipedia still higher.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:55:14 2018 No.18760764 >>18760758 s/Italy/Italian/g

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:56:44 2018 No.18760773 >>18760758 >Only 4% of the population take Japanese. Dude that's a lot of fucking people. Are you retarded? I think you're officially out of arguments for the thread being on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:58:17 2018 No.18760781 >>18760773 I meant student population. It's 66,740, retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:59:00 2018 No.18760786 >>18760781 Just stop replying to him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:59:49 2018 No.18760793 >>18760736 That just makes them hypocrites and/or shallow, as normalfags tend to be, since they never go too deeply into anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 01:59:53 2018 No.18760795 File: 31 KB, 343x348, 1471679301103.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18760148 i thought canadians were supposed to be nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:02:47 2018 No.18760813 >>18760781 I know that's what you meant. That's still 2670 people, which is a lot, and certainly makes it not niche.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:20:48 2018 No.18760893 >>18760795 they're like half-chinese now my ninja

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:28:39 2018 No.18760920 >>18760813 dont worry dude they will still try to fight and say that learning the language of the country with the worlds third biggest economy is a niche interest lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:44:08 2018 No.18760973 >>18760920 That'd mean nothing on /jp/ is niche lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:51:05 2018 No.18761001 >>18760973 No it wouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:57:22 2018 No.18761034 >>18760973 here dude check this out >>18760556 the 絶対状態

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 02:58:30 2018 No.18761037 >>18760973 touhou and typemoon are almost household names in japan because of kids watching old meme videos on nico video guess what /jp/ was created to contain? touhou and typemoon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:02:15 2018 No.18761048 >>18760973 though i guess id agree with this to an extent but thats a different problem independent of the one djt faces

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:03:05 2018 No.18761049 >>18760136 So was I right in my interpretation that in that bubble Doraemon stated >"thinking that you'll easily gain something just because you want it is naive" or am I fatally out of order?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:04:09 2018 No.18761055 >>18761034 >>18761037 >>18761048 What is the purpose of splitting your post?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:05:11 2018 No.18761059 >>18761055 only the first and third of those is me and its because i had that thought later after i made the first one

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:07:18 2018 No.18761068 >>18761049 its fine dude you understand the sentiment

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:10:05 2018 No.18761077 >>18761068 Alright! Now I'm one step closer to death but with ability to read Japanese. Thanks, anon. I probably missed out on the details, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:14:56 2018 No.18761095 >>18760556 英語わかりません日本語わかりませんメキシコアメリカ人スペイン語もう忘れちゃたどこにいけばよいですか。。。

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:20:03 2018 No.18761117 >>18761077 details are fake

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:24:38 2018 No.18761137 >>18761117 how can languages be real if details are fake?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:31:48 2018 No.18761162 >>18761137 languages, too, are fake

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:44:32 2018 No.18761213 >>18761162 事々分かる。

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:53:19 2018 No.18761248

There's not really a section on listening practice on the guide, so I'll just ask here.

Do I...just start? Maybe I should listen to audiobooks? The free ones I can find easily are flat readings of old Japanese stories, like Soseki's "kokoro". Anime episodes with japanese subtitles? Japanese songs with the lyrics on the screen?

I've done a Core2k and can grasp most of the main concept in children's manga, ie. absolute beginner.

All I had listened so far are hentai audio that comes with scripts that I downloaded back in 2015

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:54:19 2018 No.18761254 >なんか

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:54:35 2018 No.18761256 >>18761254 >なんて

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:54:56 2018 No.18761261 >>18761256 >なんで

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:55:21 2018 No.18761263 >>18759455 I can't even dl the dictionary file what a letdown this video was

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:57:07 2018 No.18761268 >>18761261 >なんじゃ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:57:29 2018 No.18761270 >>18761268 ruined it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:57:40 2018 No.18761271 File: 5 KB, 641x64, doesn't explain shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A lot of help you are, jisho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:57:52 2018 No.18761272 >>18761248 just read vns you'll get good at listening out of nowhere

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:58:36 2018 No.18761278 >>18761263 Good, go download the one off the djt cor that I uploaded 2 or so years ago. Its sorted so you dont have to download 7 gb of shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:59:24 2018 No.18761282 >なにかしら

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 03:59:56 2018 No.18761285 >>18761270 >stuffed it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:03:17 2018 No.18761298 >>18761278 >mega link >wait 6 hours I want to die right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:04:08 2018 No.18761302 新辞林 is good

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:04:27 2018 No.18761303 rtk is a meme and doesn't teach you japanese

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:05:05 2018 No.18761307 >>18761303 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:05:12 2018 No.18761308 さくらがちったとおもったらたけのこでてきたあのんもほる？

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:22:34 2018 No.18761372 I think I have now learned enough Japanese to be able to understand Japanese definitions of words in a J-J dictionary. Mostly. Thanks, /djt/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:22:40 2018 No.18761375 >>18761282 >なんぞ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:31:51 2018 No.18761410 Arguing about methods of learning vocab is a huge waste of time, you're only scratching the tip of the iceberg. Change my mind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:32:48 2018 No.18761413 File: 64 KB, 468x206, 1449800907839.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18761410

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:36:09 2018 No.18761428 what is the pitch accent of Ｍ字開脚?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 04:48:15 2018 No.18761488 じゅぎょうでたけのこほった

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:00:20 2018 No.18761545 >>18761372 I'll be there soon, hopefully. Did you use the Core 6k deck as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:08:39 2018 No.18761589 >>18761545 I use Core2k and then I just spend months doing the hassle of making a mining deck. If you use a Core6k, you'll already 3 times as good as I am, you probably already can read J-J definitions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:16:47 2018 No.18761617 たけのこの山椒焼きつくるりょうりほうはかんたんほったたけのことそのへんにある山椒のはっぱをいっしょにつつんで火にほうりこむのだ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:19:41 2018 No.18761641 >>18761589 Core is a meme.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:24:36 2018 No.18761662

>>18761641
I couldn't care less now because all I'm doing with it now are reviews. All new words/sentences I found goes straight into my mining deck. Oh well.

The best thing my core 2k deck did is give me a fetish for those short pants worn for the images of 鏡 and 夜中, and also the titties on the girls on 半袖 and 上着 cards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:28:10 2018 No.18761679 Hello, noob here. Where can i get all the non-kanji vocabulary(i mean what's ALWAYS used in text as kana)? Particles included. I want to be able to distinguish words and finally try to read\translate something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:30:48 2018 No.18761689 >>18761679 Please don't translate anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:35:38 2018 No.18761703 >>18761689 I mean for myself man :( No bulli.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:36:53 2018 No.18761707 >>18761679 I think that'll be pretty difficult, considering most vocab that are in kana have, even if uncommon, kanji versions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:53:50 2018 No.18761764 File: 248 KB, 841x1200, あはは.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] あはは

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:58:09 2018 No.18761777
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>currently trying to learn 日本語
>trying to keep it covert as im undercover as a normie
>working as a exam-assistant, basically hang around a exam and make sure people dont cheat
>essentially being paid to self study for 8 hours
>normieking informs me that it’s my lunch break and that he will cover me while I’m gone
>go on lunch
>realize I left my moonrune worksheet where the guy is now sitting

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:58:13 2018 No.18761779
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In a fit of boredom, I decided to sort/count out my physical flash cards. Turns out in 1 month I've managed to learn 141 verbs, not counting ones I "accidentally" know by extension from other words which are the noun/other form of a verb (光＝光る for example) or counting the fucking infinite +する verbs. After listening to a bunch of news, I really want to unironically +する "大統領" and talk about the Trump's "presidenting" ability in true American style.

On that note, how common is it to +する words which aren't traditionally candidates for it? We do it all the time saying things like "I adulted today" in English and I'm hoping Japanese is as flexible with its slang.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 05:58:14 2018 No.18761778 >>18761764 She just killed the girl. Utterly squashed her. Despicable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:03:23 2018 No.18761797 >>18761777 Don't worry Anon, learning Japanese is the most alpha thing you can do. Normies will never learn Nihongo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:09:24 2018 No.18761828 >>18761777 >working as a exam-assistant So is this like an invigilator? Does it pay well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:15:44 2018 No.18761866 >>18761828 Ye, something like that. I am with a special needs student in an office, 1-on-1, rather than in the classroom where 98% of the kids sit. It pays 140 SEK ($17) an hour taxfree, but it’s irregular work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:17:57 2018 No.18761878 >戸外 >literally 'door' 'out' >outdoors is also just literally 'door' and 'out' Whoever invented these words are very direct.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:23:07 2018 No.18761895 >>18761878 It's not any more or less direct than "outdoors". On the outside of the (main) doors, as opposed on the inside of them. "Indoors" if you will.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:25:56 2018 No.18761909 >>18761895 D-did you not read my third green arrow or what

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:41:55 2018 No.18761992 >>18761878 English also has the suffix -s meaning (I think) roughly direction or place, so we're not literally Chinese yet. We still have lots and lots of IE morphology.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:43:35 2018 No.18762000 >>18761992 outdoors a ways ahead etc

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:44:23 2018 No.18762003

>>18761909

My brain must've autocorrected to you just talking about the Japanese word because words like that are plentiful in English. My bad.

In any case, they're that way precisely because the words exist to place specific emphasis on something taking place or existing outside a building as opposed to inside a building (or vice versa) in contextes where making such a contrast is helpful or necessary. It makes perfect sense for them to be like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 06:58:16 2018 No.18762047 >>18761271 I hope you're being ironic but I honestly can't tell anymore.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:00:06 2018 No.18762055
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I keep coming up with this error when trying to do Yomichan's Anki integration thing. It's a fresh computer. The only other addon I've installed on Firefox is Ublock Origin. Windows, by the way

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:10:57 2018 No.18762095 あんぜんあんかあんていみっつのあがだいじ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:12:48 2018 No.18762104 >>18761764 でもえなもふーか means what exactly? i can read the rest of the pic but not this specific part if ふーか is a name, i still have no clue what でもえなも is

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:15:04 2018 No.18762110 >>18762104 Both Ena and Fuuka are names.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:15:18 2018 No.18762113 >>18762104 でも　Enaも　Fuukaも

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:16:36 2018 No.18762118 >>18761764 I'm gonna incorporate へたじゃん in my dreams, where I actually produce Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:16:47 2018 No.18762119 >>18762110 >>18762113 ah ok, that makes much more sense so basically she's saying that ena, fuuka, her dad and everyone else said she's good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:17:43 2018 No.18762121 >>18762119 Yeah. The fucking liars. Thank god that kid, whoever she is, is about to set Yotsuba straight. I bet she posts on /ic/ when she's old

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:18:42 2018 No.18762122 >>18761428 えむじかいきゃく → ↑ ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ↓ なんでこんなこと知りたいの？

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:20:33 2018 No.18762125 >>18762122 >→ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ↓ A B A 波動拳

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 07:55:36 2018 No.18762250 >>18757931 >What other kanji looks like the think they are written for? 好

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:02:23 2018 No.18762286
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The sentence is pretty long, I'll enclose the part I'm talking about within 「」

出口を求めて　「走り回り疲れて」　動くなくなって　寂しさと恐ろしさからとうとう泣き出してしまった私の前に　彼は姿を現したのでした。

Shouldn't there be some particle at the end of 走り回り? Otherwise how are the kinda-noun and the verb connected grammatically? The style seems to be too formal to drop particles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:02:35 2018 No.18762288 ねるまえにあたしにわかることならこたえられるよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:08:58 2018 No.18762322 >>18762286 て文だよ「泣き出して」までがじかんじゅんにならんでいるよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:09:44 2018 No.18762324 >>18762286 走り回り、疲れて (=走り回って、疲れて) many verbs are arranged in a line

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:15:23 2018 No.18762349 >>18762324 So, the author conjugated every other verb in the line into its て-form, and for some reason only this one got left out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:20:50 2018 No.18762374 >>18762349 て文はえいごにはないってきいたことがあるよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:21:24 2018 No.18762376 >>18762322 >じかんじゅんにならんでいるよ I understand nothing of this other than the よ

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:22:01 2018 No.18762380
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>>18762322
I understand what this sentence means. I'm just asking why is it okay to just leave a verb stem like that? There's actually a gap between "走り回り" and "疲れて".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:26:19 2018 No.18762400 >>18762376 I think that means "chronologically ordered", but I'm a newbie and I may be wrong.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:33:41 2018 No.18762427
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>>18762374
If my Japanese was good enough to understand you I wouldn't ask such dumb questions.
"I heard there were no て-phrases in English?".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:42:22 2018 No.18762449 >>18762349 Exactly. Maybe in order to avoid so many ~て repetition You can also say the same sentence as 出口を求め、走り回り、疲れ、動けなくなり、… In short, [verb,verb, then verb]- like sentence can be translated as follows: verb(ます-form) without ます= verb(て-form) with て

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:44:58 2018 No.18762458 >>18762449 Guess I need to read more about verb stems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:50:09 2018 No.18762475 >>18762400 Ah, fuck, of course, 時間順に. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:54:02 2018 No.18762492 >>18761764 よつばをいじめるのをやめて！

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:55:31 2018 No.18762498 File: 285 KB, 1238x405, jiu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's this じう sound effect? Some kind of "wipe glasses" or something else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:56:01 2018 No.18762504 File: 9 KB, 302x225, 13867596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Question: I really like Korean, but I've heard Japs are much friendlier to gaijin. I'm a huge social autist so is Japanese the way to go?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:57:59 2018 No.18762511 >>18762288 > あたしインターネットは女子がない

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:59:27 2018 No.18762518 >>18762504 Are you really going to choose a foreign language to learn over something dumb like this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 08:59:57 2018 No.18762522 公園，庭園，花樹，岩石，洞穴，峡谷，湖沼，砂丘，海浜，山岳，高原，展望地点

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:00:36 2018 No.18762525

>>18762504
Japanese people are all about group actives, anon. In school you spend your free time in clubs, at your workplace you go out with your colleagues to drink and eat.
That's why social autists are even more outcasts in Japan than in the west. Don't go there.
And Japanese girls are ugly as fuck. Koreans are ugly too but at least they use plastic surgery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:01:57 2018 No.18762529 >>18762518 I have AvPD so it unfortunately controls my life. I will say I love the sound and look of Korean much more. >>18762525 Ok. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:02:22 2018 No.18762531 >>18762522 Man I hate geography

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:06:03 2018 No.18762546 >>18762529 Why would you care if you have AvPD? Just read a lot and don't talk to anyone like everyone else here.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:06:58 2018 No.18762552

>>18762504
If you don't have a particular reason to learn a language you're not going to make it.
I tried learning languages for dumb reasons - Spanish, French, German, ... Dropped them all in the end. English was the only language I studied properly.
If you REALLY like anime and manga, they might give you enough motivation to learn a language so different from the ones you already speak.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:10:01 2018 No.18762570

>>18762552
This is very true. I really like kpop and just the way the language is on the ears. It makes me genuinely happy to think of being fluent. I supposed I am just irrationally afraid of going to the country and being shunned. But it will still have value to me as a language I speak alone.

>>18762546
I was thinking about my future, if I travel or get better enough to work in the country.

Thank you for the advice anons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:44:54 2018 No.18762753 Can anyone explain passives? Its hard to wrap my head around since english is very anti-passive

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:48:29 2018 No.18762777 >>18762753 I ate the porridge - not passive The porridge was eaten - passive

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:49:31 2018 No.18762787 >>18762753 There's still passive in English, so you should know what it is. に works as "by". Not sure if there's anything else to explain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 09:52:23 2018 No.18762802 >>18762753 There's a big section on passives in Jay Rubin's book, the full text of which you can find here: https://archive.org/stream/MakingSenseJapanese/Making%20Sense%20Japanese_djvu.txt

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:04:04 2018 No.18762862

>>18762802
>It is here, more than anywhere else, that' the language
suddenly begins to melt into that amorphous mass of cer-
emonial tea and incense and Zen and haiku, where dis-
tinctions between self and other, I and Thou, subject and
object, disappear in a blinding flash of satori.

lmao i might actually read this on the toilet later this dude seems cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:05:48 2018 No.18762874 >>18762862 It's a good book. He goes way too in depth on some stuff, but he says at the beginning that his book should be obsolete before you even read it, so he's got a good sense of humor about himself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:07:00 2018 No.18762879 >>18762753 Basically there are three possibilities in Japanese: not passive: 来る passive: 来られる passive-aggressive: 来やがる

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:07:04 2018 No.18762880 >>18762862 As a beginner, the book rocks. Especially a beginner like me who can't grasp his head around あげるもらうくれる. Now I understand even てあげる, てくれる, てもらう!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:09:04 2018 No.18762887 >>18762880 i just wanna read it for the entertainment value it seems like its written in a good voice

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:30:58 2018 No.18763014 >>18762887 Oh yeah, it's also entertaining. One of the books I had fun with when learning Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:39:00 2018 No.18763064 File: 315 KB, 472x450, hmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I keep getting horny and distracted from some of these pictures in core6k. Who is your core-fu?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:42:36 2018 No.18763081 >>18763064 > a group of 3DPDs with a disgusting Armenian / Mexican 3/10 in front of them > horny and distracted

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:44:55 2018 No.18763097 >>18763081 She's got nice armpits, anon, why are you being so rude to my stock-photo wife? Besides, a real man gets a boner at the drop of a hat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:44:57 2018 No.18763098 >>18763064 >images >yellow background Christ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:47:42 2018 No.18763115 File: 43 KB, 667x576, 4579t45ytg7hy47gy49sgdfhjf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18763064 for shame my ninja..

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:50:02 2018 No.18763127 >>18763097 getting a boner isnt the same thing as getting horny dude at least not for me my peep might be on the creep but that doesnt mean i am

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:53:29 2018 No.18763147 >>18763097 Only if his dick has a shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 10:53:38 2018 No.18763150 >>18763064 You're using one of those shitty decks from Ankiweb. Is that the back of your card?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 11:06:07 2018 No.18763220 >>18761662 Your fetish will be a good memory aid ﾖｼﾖｼ ( ,,´･ω･)ﾉ"(' ω ' ｡)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 11:21:18 2018 No.18763307 File: 54 KB, 932x279, Screenshot_20180405-081816~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Matt's advice on reading and mining for i+1 sentences when i=0

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 11:25:26 2018 No.18763322 >>18763307 What the fuck does he mean by i+1?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 11:32:15 2018 No.18763357 >>18763322 It means you iterate an arbitrary term of the sequence. Seems like he's talking about using strong induction to mathematically prove a Japanese sentence. Pretty wabisabi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 11:36:16 2018 No.18763382 >>18763322 i is everything you know. i+1 sentence is where you know everything in the sentence except one thing. You then learn that thing thus increasing your i value

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:04:20 2018 No.18763499 For those of you who read & mine on a phone, what's your setup and workflow like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:07:57 2018 No.18763527 File: 109 KB, 655x475, 5cded9249ab8331bbf652363f9ad2c701.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] さて、きょうもべんきょうするか

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:11:35 2018 No.18763550 File: 431 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180405-091045.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18763499 I have moon reader set up so I can highlight a word, click dict and it takes me to jisho definition

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:11:53 2018 No.18763553 >>18763382 >Defining operations on a naive set 嫌らしい!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:13:16 2018 No.18763559 >>18763550 What about mining though? How do you conveniently create a card for it? or do you do it manually. I'm also assuming AnkiDroid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:13:44 2018 No.18763563 >>18763550 Is this easy to set up? I have this but with Google translate and it's worthless

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:14:25 2018 No.18763569 >>18763559 I don't use ankidroid, it's terrible. I just leave the jisho tabs open and make cards later manually

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:16:36 2018 No.18763580 >>18763563 Yes it's easy

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:18:12 2018 No.18763585 >>18763550 Doesn't work with manga.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:20:00 2018 No.18763594 >>18763499 I just use Typhon reader and hit anki export.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:22:14 2018 No.18763608 >>18763594 Does it do OCR?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:24:43 2018 No.18763623 >>18763608 No, it's just an open source ebook reader strapped with a rikai-style parser.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:30:55 2018 No.18763652 >>18754574 Dark Souls every character speaks englando but you have japanese subs

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:34:54 2018 No.18763675 How long is Hanahira? I barely got to tsundere lesbo's house.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:49:02 2018 No.18763738
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Anyone know where to get that NHK pitch accent EPWING dictionary that Matt uses in his most recent video?

https://youtu.be/BzuLGmkihf4?t=203

It's not in the CoR and I've never seen it anywhere else before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 12:57:04 2018 No.18763773 >>18763738 He links the mega in the description, dekinai

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:00:30 2018 No.18763793

>>18763773
It's not clear whether the NHK EPWING is actually in there or not, since he doesn't provide any list of contents. He linked to a torrent download of EPWING dictionaries in one of his older videos and that didn't have the NHK one in it.

In any case, Mega won't let me download such a large file without installing their desktop application, and I'm not doing that.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:03:05 2018 No.18763802

>>18761248
Slice of life anime is probably the easiest material. You can try rewatching ones you've already seen, or watching ones which you've read the original (Japanese) manga version of.

Beyond that, there's some other material listed on the resources guide. Check the Google Docs version since neocities doesn't get updated much anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:04:36 2018 No.18763811 >>18763802 >Check the Google Docs version Link?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:05:43 2018 No.18763816 >>18763811 It's at the top of the neocities resources page.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:10:09 2018 No.18763824 >>18763816 Ah, I found it. It's Fucking terrible. Hopefully that anon doesn't find it and just watches anime instead

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:10:10 2018 No.18763825

>>18762504
>>18762529
>>18762570
all the East Asian countries are very group-oriented. It's rare, for example, to see people eating alone outside.

> I supposed I am just irrationally afraid of going to the country and being shunned.
East Asians have disdain for foreigners IF they think you're not adding value to their society. For example, English teachers are looked down upon since the only marketable skill they supposedly have is teaching their own language.

So it would be a small disaster if you just hop on a plane and go to Korea or Japan without a plan, especially if you suffer from AvPD. If you ever want to go to Korea and hang out with the natives, I would suggest securing a spot in an organization before arriving. (Get a job at a large company or get a teaching position at a university.)

> I really like kpop and just the way the language is on the ears. It makes me genuinely happy to think of being fluent.
As for choosing Korean or Japanese, I think it's pretty clear you should pick Korean. Liking the sound of the language and liking the popular media of the country is very important to language learning.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:20:57 2018 No.18763870 >>18762504 Fuck off, autist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:22:02 2018 No.18763875 >>18762504 you're not gonna end up anywhere, you're just gonna get burnt out once you realize learning a language is a long term effort

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:22:39 2018 No.18763876 >>18763870 >He said, while browsing /jp/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:25:00 2018 No.18763879 >>18763876 Yeah, but he's different. He's actually autistic. You can tell from the way the faggot posts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:26:17 2018 No.18763883 >>18763879 Are you actually trying to bully somebody online? Christ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:26:40 2018 No.18763885 >>18763879 Sorry, I'm not autistic enough to tell the difference between him and everyone else on this board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:33:34 2018 No.18763907 >>18763879 its like youre talking about yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:47:28 2018 No.18763957 >>18763885 >tfw not autistic enough to detect autism on autists who are not autistic enough to detect the difference between autists and non-autists

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:51:37 2018 No.18763981 >>18763879 And flying off the handle out of nowhere as a response to a 4-hour old post sure is a sign of sound mental health.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:52:21 2018 No.18763986 >>18763824 I don't get why people always complain here about the guide as if they think it will magically improve by them doing so. If you don't like it, edit it. Anyone is free to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:53:59 2018 No.18763990 >>18762504 Learn the language that you actually want to learn. This shit takes years and if you don't have a good reason to keep going at it day after day then you will just quit after having wasted a lot of time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:57:09 2018 No.18764001 is there any anki add on that automatically add japanese definition?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:58:38 2018 No.18764010 >>18763499 Share to Aedict to look things up, then use Aedict to send a new card to Ankidroid if necessary.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:59:23 2018 No.18764016
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I've seen some guys here with mining decks twice the size of Core6k.
What's the point of it?
I mean, what do you write on the flip side? A single to some extent accurate English translation? Or do you force an entire dictionary article into a flashcard?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 13:59:56 2018 No.18764020 File: 597 KB, 768x768, m23rikWH077ELvxI2jERHw6_rKFAzTY3s5vXLjGM0PA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's uzendayo? It sounds like an even more deformed way to say shut up

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:00:41 2018 No.18764024 >>18764020 some corruption of うるさい

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:01:32 2018 No.18764028 File: 106 KB, 618x720, 1507401128266.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why can't porn artists just have the decency to include a bit of furigana in their bubbles? it's such a headache

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:03:03 2018 No.18764034 >>18764028 I doubt you're missing out on much even if you don't understand some of the kanji.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:03:15 2018 No.18764035 >>18764028 furigana isnt hot dude its quite a turnoff big hard kanji right up your butt 穴 now thats the way to go

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:04:34 2018 No.18764037

>>18762529
>I have AvPD so
You'd help yourself a lot if you stopped wearing labels and using them as an excuse.

I really dislike this concept of personality "disorders", as if any divergence from the norm is some sort of disease. And I really don't think telling someone that their shyness is an illness is at all productive or helpful to them. It just leads to people resigning themselves to their situation and giving up on themselves because "well, I have AvPD so it can't be helped".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:05:56 2018 No.18764045 >>18764037 i mean if you convince someone that somethings wrong with them maybe theyll buy services or medicine they dont need

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:06:42 2018 No.18764049 >>18764020 wtf where did you find this pic of me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:07:53 2018 No.18764052 >>18764020 うるさいんだよ　▶　うざいんだよ　▶　うぜんだよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:09:48 2018 No.18764063 What do your mined cards look like? Do you add sound if its available on a dictionary site?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:12:02 2018 No.18764072 >>18764063 There's a pretty nifty add-on for anki that adds pitch to words, I'n not gonna tell you what it is though so don't worry about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:12:59 2018 No.18764075 >>18764010 For manga?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:13:25 2018 No.18764076 >>18764072 >>There's a pretty nifty add-on for anki that adds pitch to words Not him, but if you're talking about that one on AnkiWeb then it's missing the pitch accent information for tons of really common words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:14:50 2018 No.18764088 >>18764076 If it's a common word then you should already know the pitch for it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:15:18 2018 No.18764089 >>18764072 I know. I can't use addons, though. I meant to ask if people bother to add them manually when applicable. Should have clarified.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:16:41 2018 No.18764096 >>18764075 Uh, I'm not using it that way, but you could put this in front and go OCR Reader-->Aedict-->Ankidroid, I guess? http://ocrmangareaderforandroid.sourceforge.net/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:17:33 2018 No.18764102 >>18764088 If it's missing info for common words, it's no doubt also missing them for uncommon ones too. I can't say for sure since I uninstalled it on day 1 when I realised how incomplete the coverage was.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:18:01 2018 No.18764103 >>18764096 Oh wait, seems like it can even directly send to Ankidroid, so you don't even need Aedict (but making cards from Aedict probably has more info on the resulting card)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:20:43 2018 No.18764114 >>18764096 >>18764103 I did try OCR Manga Reader some time ago, but unfortunately its OCR was pretty crap and hardly recognized words right or at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:23:27 2018 No.18764126 >>18764114 Seems like you'll have to learn japanese then

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:24:47 2018 No.18764132 >>18764126 How am I supposed to learn Japanese efficiently if I can't mine efficiently?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:25:41 2018 No.18764137 >>18764132 dont use the word efficient because nothing about what youre doing is efficient

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:26:32 2018 No.18764139 >>18764132 By reading something that's not manga without furigana? Or you could just try...learning vocab, but it seems like that's frowned upon in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:27:36 2018 No.18764145 >>18764137 How do you efficiently learn vocabulary then huh oniichan? >>18764139 >Or you could just try...learning vocab That's what I'm trying to do you literal retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:28:33 2018 No.18764152 >>18764139 >learning vocab in isolation for months before touching any native content is frowned upon I wonder why.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:30:03 2018 No.18764155 >>18764152 Because people are babies about learning "useless words"

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:31:13 2018 No.18764162

>>18764145
focus on a different e word
effective

what have you effectively learned
what is your effective understanding of japanese

how long have you been doing what youve been doing and equate that to how much you can actually share and demonstrate to another person when asked

this is all rhetorical by the way - you dont need to answer to me but take a minute and answer to yourself

if you think oh well im just not at that point yet where i can demonstrate understanding then ask yourself when that point will come

will it come by doing the same things youre doing now over and over

it wont

behold djt

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:36:48 2018 No.18764178 File: 5 KB, 900x175, Hanahira Progress Chart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18763675

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:41:18 2018 No.18764199 >>18764178 I just あきらめるed, I guess I'm almost done then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 14:57:43 2018 No.18764287 >>18764028 because furigana is meant for children or kanji that aren't commonly used i don't think children would pick up a 2hu doujin or that they use hard vocabulary likewise

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:11:37 2018 No.18764351 Is there a single good pitch accent resource available in English?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:14:39 2018 No.18764365 >>18764020 うざいんだよ -> うぜえんだよ -> うぜんだよ https://kotobank.jp/word/うざい-439466

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:24:13 2018 No.18764403 >>18764351 No

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:25:54 2018 No.18764408 >train is 電車 >electric car is 電気自動車 nihongo wa gay

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:26:03 2018 No.18764409 >>18763879 Do you have any idea where you are?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:27:09 2018 No.18764414 >>18763986 >I don't get why people always complain here about the guide >If you don't like it, edit it Because it drumroll doesn't get updated!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:28:45 2018 No.18764419 >>18764408 that's metro, train is 列車

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:31:48 2018 No.18764432 >>18764414 It doesn't need to since your updates can still be read even if they aren't approved.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:32:32 2018 No.18764437 >>18764419 ok i guess but my point remains

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:33:07 2018 No.18764438 わたしはメトロるでゲイ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:33:42 2018 No.18764439 >>18764432 Except they won't actually be read because nearly nobody goes to the live google docs pages.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:39:11 2018 No.18764456 >>18764408 >電気自動車 >electric self move cart Well at least it makes sense and is easy to recall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:41:43 2018 No.18764465 >>18764438 >メトロるでゲイえ？なに？

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:42:34 2018 No.18764469 I think I should start doing 30 new cards a day again. With 20cards a day my anki reps only take like 45min. Is this a good idea?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:43:29 2018 No.18764472 >>18764465 he's metrogay

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:44:03 2018 No.18764474 あたしはゲイじゃないなの

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:47:44 2018 No.18764490 >>18764469 Know what's a good idea, thinking for yourself for once

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:49:38 2018 No.18764494 >>18764490 I thought this was a thread where you could share your thoughts about learning and ask questions. My bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:51:35 2018 No.18764500 >>18764494 That's not a worthwhile question because only you can know your proper pace. Some people can do 100 cards/day, others can do 5/day. Figure yourself out and act accordingly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:51:51 2018 No.18764502 >>18764474 ちょっと服を脱いでちょうだい実験で確かめてみましょう

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 15:57:04 2018 No.18764515 >>18764502 オッケー！＊服を脱ぐ＊これからどうする？

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:02:59 2018 No.18764545 >>18764515 わたしはキミをめちゃくちゃにするわ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:08:15 2018 No.18764569 ┌(┌^o^)┐ﾎﾓｫ…

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:10:18 2018 No.18764575 >>18764545 イヤアアン〜！

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:17:42 2018 No.18764620 >>18764408 Guess you just have to do what we do in America and call it a car. Nobody cares what kind it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:18:55 2018 No.18764627 >>18764620 I'm not from America and I do care about what kind of car it is

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:20:58 2018 No.18764643 >>18764620 it absolutely matters dude whether youre riding 軽自動車 or ダンボルギーニ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVqSXJz3GCo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9uZFqtNxrw

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:24:25 2018 No.18764661

>>18764627
Why? Are you talking about a toy car or something? Are you in some kind of situation where you're buying a car in Japan from someone who insists you use this specific word for them?

Japanese people aren't toddlers, everybody's going to know what you're talking about if you just put the adjective for electric with the word for car, just conjugate it right.

It's such a non-complaint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:27:04 2018 No.18764674 >>18764661 jesus christ dude it's obviously just a shitpost 電 means electricity and 車 means vehicle so the first thing you would think of is electric car i'm not complaining about it just thought it was interesting. can't change it anyway

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:27:44 2018 No.18764679 >>18764643 I don't think he means a smart car? Those aren't even necessarily electric as far as I know. I think he just means like a Tesla.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:30:31 2018 No.18764693 >>18764674 this is what happens when you play with your kanji soup

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:31:32 2018 No.18764700 個人惑星間旅行装置《レッド・テスラ・ロードスター》

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:32:05 2018 No.18764705 >>18764674 Oh, try adding some w's next time to make it more obvious, please. ごめんごめん。。。

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:33:08 2018 No.18764707 >>18764705 good point, will do

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:34:41 2018 No.18764720 >>18754741 この写真どこに撮られた？心地良そ過ぎる！

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:41:35 2018 No.18764769 Are we as cute when we try to speak Japanese as they are when they try to speak English? Especially online, the Japanese thread in /int/ is so precious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:42:49 2018 No.18764777 ITS OUT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4t8Fuk-SCQ >>18764769 average nihonjim better at english

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:44:25 2018 No.18764785 >>18764777 >average nihonjim better at english Are you sure?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:46:10 2018 No.18764791 >>18764777 It's not even that they don't speak it well, they just sound so serious to me, it's really endearing. I think a lot of it is just because I always imagine jp anons as those little cat avatars from Bar Giko.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:50:52 2018 No.18764815 >>18764791 its endearing because theres like some level of understanding there for what youre reading/hearing when you flip it around nihonjim be like 頭が痛い

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:57:30 2018 No.18764842 http://oncoj.ninjal.ac.jp/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:58:33 2018 No.18764848 >>18756047 That's 6 months if you do the bare minimum of 20 cards a day, what are you on about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 16:59:04 2018 No.18764851 >>18761271 wwwwww

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:00:42 2018 No.18764864 >>18764848 >replying to a 28h post

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:01:55 2018 No.18764870 >>18764864 >replying to a 2m9s post What's your point?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:03:10 2018 No.18764878 necro bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:03:12 2018 No.18764879 >>18764848 It's actually just 5 months 3000 / 20 = 150 days, 150 / 30 = 5 months

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:04:27 2018 No.18764884 >>18764879 数学強ええ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:04:58 2018 No.18764888 >>18764870 >replying to a 1m13s post

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:05:35 2018 No.18764890 >>18764884 d-doumo arigatou

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:05:37 2018 No.18764892 can someone answer this please >>18753139

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:06:50 2018 No.18764903 >>18764842 Is this even translated? I can only see parsing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:07:24 2018 No.18764906 >>18764903 it's for native japanese speakers why would it be translated well I mean they have a morpheme gloss if that's what you mean

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:07:37 2018 No.18764910 File: 163 KB, 1450x470, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18763064 I love the titties on 袖 and 上着, while I love those pants on 鏡.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:08:09 2018 No.18764913 >>18764906 sorry meant to say fluent here not native

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:08:25 2018 No.18764915 >>18764906 Then why is the site available in fully english? And I doubt most Japanese would understand those words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:10:00 2018 No.18764929 >>18764910 >nips visible STOP I came here for the nihongo not the boner

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:10:55 2018 No.18764933 >>18764929 what nihongo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:21:42 2018 No.18764988 >>18763064 The guy that says 次の駅は通過します is my voicebando

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:34:02 2018 No.18765038 >>18764988 The girl who says ロボット is my greatest fear.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:45:01 2018 No.18765097

I consistently have 95% success rate in Anki, but I'm having problems recognizing anything when reading. I'm starting to believe that instead of remembering the words, I memorized the pictures instead, and the speech is helping too much with the reading. I noticed myself barely even looking at the word itself.
Did I just waste the last 2 years of my life doing core6k?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:48:05 2018 No.18765116 >>18765097 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:48:11 2018 No.18765118 >>18765097 probably dude you coulda just memorized the words while they are in context so like your brain learns and stuff instead of just memorizes

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:49:04 2018 No.18765121 >>18765097 Don't use photos then. Problem solved.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:49:19 2018 No.18765125 >>18765097 No. But I'd ditch the anki and stick to reading as much as possible. Use anki as a reinforcement tool, not for learning.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:51:27 2018 No.18765136

>>18765097
I have this constant fear when I'm using Anki. How do I know I'll actually remember this stuff outside of anki?

I tried to abate this fear by reading stuff, and I suddenly realize that I remember less than I thought.

Of course, my retention rate doesn't really go beyond 94%, so maybe I am just bad Anki user.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:52:25 2018 No.18765144 >>18765097 This is exactly why I don't use the photos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:53:41 2018 No.18765152 where are my dekinai quitters at

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:54:43 2018 No.18765160 今日は「ズボン買いましょう」と思ったけど。。。やっぱりこの俺様はちょっと太った。。。無理だったｗｗｗ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:58:27 2018 No.18765173 >>18765160 >太った >俺様 if you're デブ you don't deserve 様

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 17:59:30 2018 No.18765175 運動しろデブｗｗｗ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:00:33 2018 No.18765181 >>18765173 ＞デブ If I was in japan sure, but here in Texas I'm slim as could be, my dude.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:01:10 2018 No.18765184 >>18765181 fat is not relative my ninja

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:01:23 2018 No.18765186 >>18765173 What are the pronouns allowed for fatties? How about something like 僕, うち or 麻呂, are those degrading enough?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:02:12 2018 No.18765190 >>18765186 this isnt how it works cease and desist that bullshit thinking

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:02:12 2018 No.18765191 >>18765160 >ズボン >pants なに？

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:02:31 2018 No.18765193 What does 足すの確定 mean? Can it be something like "surely it's an increase"? The context is that someone's workload will be reduced if they take on another task.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:03:33 2018 No.18765196 >>18765191 >From French jupon (“petticoat, underskirt”),[1][2][3] from French jupe (“skirt”), from old Italian jupa, from Arabic جُوبَّة (jūbba, “long garment”).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:03:44 2018 No.18765198 >>18765191 Not every loan word in Japanese comes from English.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:04:11 2018 No.18765202 what was the first thing you guys read through when just beginning?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:04:40 2018 No.18765205 >>18765202 This post

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:05:14 2018 No.18765206 >>18765205 im honored

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:05:56 2018 No.18765211
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>>18765118
>read and watch the news
>watch Game Center CX
>constantly have flashes back to Arino's ugly mug as I stumble through news articles
>literally sound like Arino when I try to talk

:/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:06:02 2018 No.18765214 >>18765202 naruto

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:06:31 2018 No.18765219 >>18765206 I was referring to my own post, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:06:47 2018 No.18765220 >>18765202 よつばと！第一巻 First full series was 惡の華

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:06:56 2018 No.18765221

>>18765202
2 chapters of Kino but it was kind of boring. then i went back to it later and realized every chapter is pretty much the same. it's kind of weird to me that the very first volume had already started off so formulaic. might as well be monster of the week anime desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:07:24 2018 No.18765225 >>18765193 i guess that you are collect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:08:04 2018 No.18765231 >>18765202 naurto

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:08:35 2018 No.18765235 >>18765202 ラブメア Then COMIC LO 2018年2月号

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:08:49 2018 No.18765237 >>18765202 i read kuroi jukai

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:08:55 2018 No.18765239 We did it, we reached over 1000 posts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:09:43 2018 No.18765240 >>18765239 i couldve done it without you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:09:51 2018 No.18765241 >>18765239 How many of those posts are about learning Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:10:36 2018 No.18765247 >>18765239 All me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:10:50 2018 No.18765248 >>18765202 Flyable Heart. At first I hardly understood anything but by the end I had improved a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:11:14 2018 No.18765250 >>18765193 Yes you can.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:11:32 2018 No.18765253
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>>18765202
I believe at this point I only knew how to read hiragana and about 70% of katakana.

Taught me quickly what 鼻毛真剣 is. However, it's actually available in my native language. I just read this in Japanese to get ahead of the currently published native language volume. Didn't understand much, but it had a lot of visual jokes that I can even entertain my completely normie friend with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:11:44 2018 No.18765255 >>18765247 >140 unique posters >all you explain this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:13:07 2018 No.18765262 >>18765255 if my 25% of the posts itt were gone there would be no 1000

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:13:19 2018 No.18765263 >>18765255 Maybe he just owns 140 different networks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:13:41 2018 No.18765265 >>18765255 I used a different proxy for all of those posts, thanks for asking, Me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:14:09 2018 No.18765267 >>18765262 >>18765263 >>18765265 ah yes thanks me i keep forgetting lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:15:14 2018 No.18765270 わたしは全員ゲイ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:15:23 2018 No.18765272 File: 150 KB, 960x540, Kansai.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18765211 Soon you'll be an official Japanese comedian.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:16:14 2018 No.18765276 >>18765265 I did kinda go off the rails with the /jp/-/int/ masturbation session, though. too easy to get carried away, i guess

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:16:25 2018 No.18765277 >>18765202 All of Yotsubato followed by all of New Game

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:16:32 2018 No.18765279 >>18765202 HoshiMemo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:17:47 2018 No.18765283 >>18765202 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzDnwZHDPB0

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:17:48 2018 No.18765284 >>18765277 I think you're lying. How did you read all of it if those series are still being published?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:18:43 2018 No.18765289 Can someone explain to this noob why in this sentence 亀は海の中に入りました。 the verb Enter changes from -ru to -rimashita? i understand a bit about dropper and changer verbs as well as tenses but do all ru's turn into ri?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:19:08 2018 No.18765291 what are verbal nouns?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:19:39 2018 No.18765294 >>18765291 either suru verbs or na adjectives depending on where you're reading it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:19:39 2018 No.18765296 File: 81 KB, 293x293, 1420071130145.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18765284 Time travel

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:20:03 2018 No.18765299 >>18765289 desu/masu/polite form. You can probably google that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:20:37 2018 No.18765301 >>18765289 入りました is the polite form of 入った

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:20:57 2018 No.18765305 >>18765294 i just read it on core, it says that 病気 is a verbal noun

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:20:59 2018 No.18765307 >>18765289 check out a book written by a wise sage by the name of tyler kim

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:21:27 2018 No.18765309 >>18765272 So, is Kansai dialect ugly or something? What is best sounding dialect to learn?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:21:47 2018 No.18765312 >>18765305 so na adjective and suru verb at the same time then

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:22:06 2018 No.18765315 >>18765309 tokyo nihongo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:22:06 2018 No.18765316 >>18765309 doesn't matter, you're not gonna speak it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:22:25 2018 No.18765317 >>18765312 What does 病気する mean then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:22:55 2018 No.18765322 >>18765312 heck okay thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:23:07 2018 No.18765323 >>18765202 i read naruto >>18765317 to get aids

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:24:17 2018 No.18765330 >>18765317 You should use Google to Google it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:24:22 2018 No.18765332 >>18765309 醜いなのはお前の方やねん

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:25:07 2018 No.18765338 >>18765330 Who is this "goo-gle"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:26:05 2018 No.18765345 >>18765332 >やねん I think I learned なんでやねん when I was small, because my brother was a weaboo as well. ah, memories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:26:13 2018 No.18765348 >>18765332 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMormj8w7HM from 12 seconds to 30 seconds transcribe it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:26:14 2018 No.18765349 >>18765338 Google it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:27:59 2018 No.18765358 >>18765348 "the pleasure of being cummed inside" I think

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:29:10 2018 No.18765365 >>18765358 rumor is confirmed: gun hype is ゲイ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:29:36 2018 No.18765373 そりゃそうやな

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:30:12 2018 No.18765376 i havent read today and im really tired what should i do

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:30:38 2018 No.18765381 >>18765338 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbTHFJf6FE

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:30:44 2018 No.18765383 >>18765376 take a day off, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:31:37 2018 No.18765387 >>18765376 http://youtu.be/npikFbIB7kE#t=55

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:31:38 2018 No.18765390 >>18765373 いやちゃうちゃうか

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:31:45 2018 No.18765392 >>18765376 寝なさい

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:31:58 2018 No.18765395 >>18765376 Listen to Japanese podcasts

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:33:40 2018 No.18765404 >>18765348 あっつーい。開くか、あんなもん。～ウィィッ（挨拶）うるせーわかったってわかってるてごめんごめんごめんごめんええやんけ、ﾁｪｯ…shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:35:04 2018 No.18765411 >>18765404 >ﾁｪｯ stupid question, how do you type this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:36:47 2018 No.18765417 >>18765411 chileltu

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:37:02 2018 No.18765418 >>18765411 x before each character

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:38:10 2018 No.18765423 File: 25 KB, 450x253, 5c8bfb48.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18765411 it is sound, click [clack, cluck] one's tongue Japanese"tut‐tut"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:40:09 2018 No.18765432 >>18765411 ちぇっ tyextu

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:42:50 2018 No.18765453 File: 12 KB, 293x75, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18765417 チェッ >>18765418 xチェッ >>18765432 チェッ It doesn't seem as 'compressed' as that one. Unless what I wrote on the box and what's actually posted look different.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:45:17 2018 No.18765464 >>18765453 ﾀﾞﾏﾚ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:46:11 2018 No.18765466 >>18765453 ﾔﾍﾞｴｺﾉｶﾞｲｼﾞww

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:46:35 2018 No.18765467 File: 181 KB, 640x480, MSIME-Property-Keyboard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18765453 私のPCだとちぇっ（tyextu)　と打った後無変換ボタンを押すと全角カタカナ　チェッになり２回連続で押すと　ﾁｪｯになるよ。

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:46:48 2018 No.18765469 File: 69 KB, 780x500, 1508136702037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18765453 ﾁｪﾂ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:46:57 2018 No.18765470 >>18765453 Hit F8 after writing it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:49:49 2018 No.18765490 >>18765464 >>18765466 泣く >>18765467 ﾁｪｯえーええ!? >>18765470 ﾁｪｯ t-the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:55:10 2018 No.18765506 ｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:57:52 2018 No.18765517 >>18765506 ｵﾚﾊｱﾎﾀﾞ!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 18:57:53 2018 No.18765518 Jokes aside, we should start using half-width kana to save bandwidth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 19:00:22 2018 No.18765528 >>18765518 ｲｲｱｲﾁﾞｱﾀﾞ!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 19:02:03 2018 No.18765533 fuck, I can't stop reading the SS stories on http://sshouko.net.. Whichever anon it was that pointed there, thank you very much! I am drowning in 幼馴染 stories

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 19:05:10 2018 No.18765548 now post some /ss/ stories

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 19:11:19 2018 No.18765574 >>18765533 え、あのん君、自分でSS書いてるの？すごいね！ http://ex14.vip2ch.com/news4ssnip/ ちなみに、まとめサイトに転載する前は皆ここに投稿してるんですよ。

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 19:19:49 2018 No.18765621 >>18765574 >自分でSS書いてるの? あり得ない! Assuming of course if you're asking if I'm writing SS stories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 19:27:38 2018 No.18765659 >>18765621 oh bashfully, I mistake drowning for drawing.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:07:30 2018 No.18765783

I just downloaded the Google Translate app for my phone and it is certainly faster and easier than using the mouse to draw kanji on my computer. Unfortunately, if you stop drawing for a fraction of a second, it automatically chooses a kanji and moves on to the next character. Not good for trying to slowly copy complex characters. I wish there was a setting to make it work more like the website.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:10:25 2018 No.18765796 >>18765783 snorts and pushes up glasses why not just get faster and be more "efficient" with your time imagine this if you get fast at it youre prolly learning something

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:11:51 2018 No.18765802 >>18765783 Lmao just do RTK

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:13:53 2018 No.18765812 autism

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:21:27 2018 No.18765850 >>18765272 Does he ever actually say this anywhere in the series, or is this just made-up text some gaijin slapped on a screencap?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:21:59 2018 No.18765853 >>18765097 >I noticed myself barely even looking at the word itself There's nothing but the word itself on the front of the card if you use the deck recommended in the OP and not the awfully formatted Ankiweb decks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:24:27 2018 No.18765862 >>18765453 like ㍍ but ﾒｰﾄﾙ instead

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:27:01 2018 No.18765870 >>18765862 Is that in the IME or just unicode trickery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:39:45 2018 No.18765937 File: 75 KB, 1041x806, o104108061322387301736.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ㌘'`㌈

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:40:38 2018 No.18765943 >>18765870 It's 魔法 nigga, I ain't gotta 説明 shit ㍿

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:43:13 2018 No.18765953 It's fitting that this thread will end with some actual display of magic.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:46:34 2018 No.18765973

So When I read things even if I understand the vocab and grammar, I still do not fully know what is being said. Does this naturally get better or do I have to do something extra when reading.

I have finished 2k, read 8 volumes of manga, 1 VN, and watched like 30 episodes of anime. Does it get better, and how long will it take for me to understand more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:49:19 2018 No.18765985 >>18765973 It will get better with practice, yes. But you are probably wrong about fully understanding the grammar, if you don't know what is being said.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:50:40 2018 No.18765990 Why is wrapping cloth (風呂敷) called a "bath spread"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:51:23 2018 No.18765996 >>18765985 What do you think I should be doing about grammar, Will it get better with more reading or should I do something specifically for grammar?

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:53:36 2018 No.18766005
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>>18765996
You could try this. It should be in the resources.
It's a book of a few Japanese short novels, with the sentences taken apart and explained in English.
The book assumes that you know basic grammar, so it should be good if you already read something on your own.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 20:58:17 2018 No.18766028 File: 200 KB, 700x500, kirby invite.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/5uu2TWli-_M?t=1m56s 腐敗

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:00:37 2018 No.18766043 >>18766005 >Banana lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:01:42 2018 No.18766050 >>18765996 The only way to acquire grammar fully is massive exposure (thousands of hours). Surely you've noticed it working already. Reading explanations of grammar will give you a little boost but it's not necessary or sufficient.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:06:51 2018 No.18766073

>>18766050
Yeah when I see posts on here from Yotsuba I can always understand them, I just feel like I only understand like 40% of sentences from whatever I am reading.

Like sometimes I see a sentence that uses passive form combined with other shit and I get lost. Hopefully It gets better

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:11:19 2018 No.18766086 >>18766073 don't worry you stop worrying about grammar long long before your japanese actually gets any good

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:14:13 2018 No.18766095 >>18766073 You just need to read a few works of the same difficulty level and you should be mostly good. It's ironing out the last 1% that takes a very long time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:14:41 2018 No.18766096 >>18765253 Interesting pick. Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:21:07 2018 No.18766112 >>18766096 Funniest shit I've ever read. Not at all the best shonen, but the most hilarious manga I've ever put my eyes on. My 中二病 was totally based on this series.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:25:54 2018 No.18766153 >>18763652 It's really dumb suggesting that to someone who wants to learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:29:02 2018 No.18766164 >>18765253 it is so nostalgic.so i am crying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:30:28 2018 No.18766168 >>18766164 The very first actual Japanese school friend I met was actually a big fan of ボボボーボ・ボーボボ as well. We agreed to trade comics, with me getting kochikame.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:32:04 2018 No.18766174 File: 347 KB, 792x841, 1507625385715.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >に

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:39:57 2018 No.18766198 >>18766168 in other thing, I and my childhood friends did hook on ぴゅ～と吹くジャガー and 黒いラブレター of Gag manga.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:43:38 2018 No.18766217 I've just learnt Hiragana and Katakana, what should be my next step? Grammar? Vocab? Kanji?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:44:27 2018 No.18766222 >>18766217 All of those.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:44:39 2018 No.18766223 Should I stop mining if I'm reading a lot and my unseen cards are starting to pile up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:46:54 2018 No.18766238 >>18766222 Righto cheers

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:47:12 2018 No.18766239 >>18766217 >Grammar? Yes. >Vocab? Yes. >Kanji? No.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:49:28 2018 No.18766255 >>18766238 Vocab + kanji is such a huge task that you might as well start it asap but you need to learn grammar too.

Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:53:20 2018 No.18766277
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How the fuck do these threads get so many posts? Do you guys actually study Japanese or are you just sitting around talking about the notion of studying it, as if you'll "get around to it" some other time?

Here's an idea, every time you post in this thread, rep 100 cards from your decks. I guarantee you'll get much better that much quicker.

In fact, have a fun studying game.

>Post in /djt/ = do 100 reps
>Post in any other thread on any other board = do 25 reps
>Fap = do 250 reps
>Read a news article in english = Mine/read a similar news article in Japanese

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:54:43 2018 No.18766286 File: 696 KB, 1823x2048, DZvOb2SVwAAVXSO.jpg orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18766277 I'm permanently lethargic and spend my time down here so I don't get demotivated from studying Japanese the few times I feel good enough to do so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 21:56:36 2018 No.18766295 >>18766277 Done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:00:33 2018 No.18766313 >>18766277 Replace "100 reps" with "read for 10 minutes".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:01:08 2018 No.18766314 Hey Guys, I am reading a VN and came across something I can't find online. What does 知ったらどうなるやら mean in this sentence? まったく、あいつら必死すぎるだろ……イルの正体を知ったらどうなるやら。

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:01:22 2018 No.18766317 >>18766277 There are 150 people posting here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:03:30 2018 No.18766329 >>18766314 どうなるんだろう etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:04:26 2018 No.18766336 >>18766314 "What would he do if he knew"? I don't know what やら is, I'm just guessing from the sentence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:09:11 2018 No.18766366 >>18766277 I post here while watching anime

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:10:28 2018 No.18766370 >>18766277 I can read porn, I don't need to study no more But to be fair, I haven't checked/mined Japanese news articles. Could probably try that out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:15:46 2018 No.18766396 yo on which side does the Japanese fell on the pronounciation of GIF? じふ or ぎふ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:18:51 2018 No.18766411 >gif >$current_year

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:20:37 2018 No.18766417 >>18766396 wikipedia says ギフ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:21:03 2018 No.18766419 >>18766396 both just like english

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:21:22 2018 No.18766423 gif じふ jpg じぇいぺぐ zip じっぷ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:22:01 2018 No.18766431 >>18766411 ＞緑テキスト＞平成30年

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:22:12 2018 No.18766433 >>18766423 あっす

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:37:49 2018 No.18766510 File: 441 KB, 873x720, 1513701685616.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >踏む

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:37:56 2018 No.18766511 一千一百七十

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 5 22:52:40 2018 No.18766564 >>18766511 wouldn't it just be 千百七十 ?

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