OJT - Otaku Japanese Thread #1899

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, Japanese video games, etc. Formerly referred to as /djt/, it has been renamed to better reflect its present usage.

Read the Guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Check the Cornucopia of Resources before asking where to download X or Y:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/cor.html

Previous Thread >>18600682

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The madman did it!

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>>18615470
finally,, the general dedicated to both earnestly and ironically shilling ajatt instead of actually learning a language

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Just looked through antimoon. Do you guys use ANKI cards that aren't simple word cards? (Cloze cards, sentence cards, pronunciation cards)

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>>18615305
Not the person you're talking to, but in what way do you mean? Could you be more specific or give some examples of what you're talking about? That's one of my favorite manga, and I didn't have any problems at all reading it in Japanese, but now I'm wondering if I actually missed out on half of it.

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>>18615470
Except it still wont deter stupid redditors from posting the same stuff, and it fucks up bookmarks/pictures/etc
not a big deal but I feel like it's more of an incontinence than it is something that could reasonably solve anything

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>>18615520

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>>18615505
I only use sentence cards

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>>18615520
>>18615543
No one has ever done this ineffective shit, stop shilling it

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>>18615656
it's simple enough and similar enough to the djt guide that it could have been done by chance by one of the many people who followed djt's guide

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>>18615505
I use sentence cards, never understood the point of the other ones.

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>>18615660
And with infinite universes there is also a slim chance your retarded mother saves us from you by going through with the abortion

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My body is ready

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>>18615674
Their bodies look ready too.

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>>18615461
もうすぐおしまいだね
一歩ずつ終わりへ

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I'm doing Heisig and for some reason Anki has put some of my cards at the back of the queue. That's especially infuriation since some of them are very basic radicals like "towel" that 20 other cards build on.
Anything I can do to fix this?

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>>18615718
Filter by new cards, sort by heisig order, select all, then use the reposition function

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>>18615520

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>>18615766
this is so bad who made this

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What is the recommended time of day to do Anki?
Learned the hard way, doing it in the evening is a waste of time and energy.

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>>18615461
>This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, Japanese video games, etc. Formerly referred to as /djt/, it has been renamed to better reflect its present usage.

The hell do I go if I wanna learn japanese, then?

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>>18615774
within a few hours of waking up

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>>18615775
It's just an autist trying to make djt a secret club, ignore

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>>18615775
Can you read English alright? It says Japanese learning thread right there.

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>>18615775
>>>/int/

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>>18615786
He means he want to learn Japanese for work, social interactions and such, you autistic piece of shit, not for reading pedophile cartoons.

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>>18615800
You're in the wrong place.

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>tfw AJATTers are better at Japanese than anyone that's done djt

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>>18615806
Huh, I didn't know so many people spent their time scamming people on the internet. How do you get good at Japanese by scamming people?

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>>18615766
>RTK1+3

hahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

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>>18615806
Who quote?

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matt reads these threads for some reason btw

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>>18615800
I see, can I recommend
>>>/int/ or r/LearnJapanese to you then?

>>18615806
DJT is an anonymous community.

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>>18615835
That tweet is the smartest thing posted in this thread

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>>18615835
/ourguy/

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>>18615835
He has a point

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>>18615860
It's only accidentally correct and not in the sense he intended when he posted it

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>>18615461
>otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, Japanese video games, etc
Light novels are the only thing that are otaku.
Anime, manga and video games are all main stream now and really don't have a place in Otaku threads.

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>>18615872
>Light novels are the only thing that are otaku.
Are you retarded?

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>>18615835

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>>18615872
Otaku isn't a synonym for underground you retard.

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>>18615880
Yes it is, that's why I made this thread OJT to keep normies out

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The estimate for 4 years seems to exceed that of the US Foreign Service Institute's estimate for achieving basic fluency for a relatively difficult to learn language; leading me to believe that this estimate actually does mean a very respectable amount of proficiency.

Is that really true? Would it only take 4 years studying properly at an hour or two a day (assuming no learning disability and horribly inefficient methods)? If so, thank god, that's another 4 years I can live on without killing myself for.

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>>18615888
You didn't post this thread, and it remains not a synonym.

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>>18615892
>basic fluency
How is that defined?

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>>18615892
Matt's 4 year plan is for getting to near native level, not fluency. Also it takes way more than 2 hours a day

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>>18615888
If you made such a dumb change just because of muh normies you need to fuck off back to >>>/r9k/

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>>18615903
They didn't make that change, they're shitposting and pretending to be OP. They're just trying to pollute the thread with garbage. Don't respond to them.

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>>18615888
Good job. You did it my friend. There was no way the change in OP picture would basically guarantee the entire thread would immediately devolve into deliberate shitposting and pointless arguing. Nobody could have foreseen that. Golly, if I didn’t have so much faith in you I’d almost say you did it all on purpose!

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>>18615910
Why are you responding to yourself?

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>>18615913
Who are you quoting?

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>>18615888
Please leave and never come back to DJT

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>>18615901
How far are you into RTK?

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Read anything fun lately 先輩?

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>>18615941
About 75 percent, why?

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>>18615949
bullshit. post your stats

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>>18615901
Huh? I'm referring to the line in the DJT guide's questions section where it answers 'How long does it take to learn Japanese?' with 4 years and I'm inferring the subsequent result based on what the US FSI estimated for basic fluency (one site puts this number at 720 hours). 2 hours everyday for 4 years would be 2924 hours (including leap day) which is more than 4 times the amount the estimate stands at.
>>18615900
Whilst I can't pull up any meaningful tables or valid data to support what I'm about to say, I suppose it's referring to a more-or-less acceptable knowledge of the language with enough accuracy to properly convey your thoughts, whilst still being distinctly 'foreign' and not at a native level.

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>>18615948
Just reading some Kimagure Orange Road. It's nice.

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>>18615962
>>18615900
Actually, my definition is very loose and doesn't really get into the specifics of what that means in terms of one's ability to write, their listening comprehension and etc; so please disregard my half-hearted attempt to explain that.

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>>18615972
finally a post in this aids hell hole i can engage with positively

madokas been my girlfriend for the past 30 years

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>>18615907
How can you say that with any certainty? The OP is the biggest shitpost in this thread and serves no purpose but to derail otherwise productive threads.

It wouldn't happen to be yours, would it?

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>>18616028
4chan has this thing that tells you when new IPs post in the thread.

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>>18616028
Stop trying to deflect your shitposting on to other people.

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>>18615892
4 years one hour a day will be ~1470 hours. It's roughly the time I could read medium level works with a dictionary and enjoy them and I didn't waste my time on listening, speaking, writing, rtk, etc.

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>>18615958

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>>18615962
I don't think anyone has done any kind of research to come up with the 4 year number. It's probably just a reasonable amount of time to expect to be spending on learning Japanese to get good at it

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>>18615962
>>18616178
No one has ever done DJT as it is presented, the number is pulled out of someone's ass. It's as hypothetical as DJT actually working

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>>18616196
Go back to your circlejerk discord. Or do you need attention from people who hate you?

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>>18616196
How does one do djt?

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>>18616202
actually i do https://vocaroo.com/i/s0IqldUWVG4Y
today everyone learn japanese

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>>18615772
A dude who's fluent at Japanese made that.
https://youtu.be/DQCFyD_Q51k

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>>18616240
Wiggers are a mistake

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>>18615656
it's the only way anyone has ever gotten good at a language. you think you can read nothing but textbooks and you'll become fluent you fucking nerd?

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>>18616252
Citation needed

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>>18615835
/djt/ BTFO'd

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>>18616265
http://sdkrashen.com/
Knock yourself out.

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>>18616308
Nothing about the guide on this site.

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>>18616322
The guide is a copy of his philosophy with a couple random optional things thrown in.

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>/v/ died
>shitposting here skyrocketed

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>>18615835
What proofs does matt have so? I didn't see anything except for his shitty self-presentation video and reading aloud but I don't think it's a big deal at all.

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>>18616327
>X != Y
>But if you pretend it does then my argument is valid!

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>>18616341

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>>18616341
The guide includes comprehensible input as its only major element, and everything else is completely time limited or is shown by krashen to increase comprehension.

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>>18616340
Despite being a terrible person and pushing terrible ideas all the time, Matt does, as a matter of the time he put into it, know Japanese. He's just an idiot.

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Well, it’s been real fun guys, I’m out

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>>18616340
He has videos where he talks to natives. Idk what else there is... what kind of proof do you consider worthy? What a person who states they speak Japanese have to do for you to believe them?

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>>18616352
spread your nihongo wings and fly
just dont fly too close to the sun

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>>18615962
FSI students of Japanese study about 4K hours before graduating with "General Professional Proficiency in Speaking and Reading".
http://www.govtilr.org/Publications/TESOL03ReadingFull.htm
>At FSI, it requires most adults at least five class hours a day for five days a week, plus three or more additional hours a day of independent study.

The estimates you see on random websites only count class hours.

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>>18616346
The guide doesn't even mention comphrensible input. Citation needed.

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>>18616352
did this spur you to get out? >>18615835

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Stop replying to the trolls and just report them

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Reading is comprehensible input. No matter what you read some of it will be comprehensible.

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Immediately identify the AJATT tool by his thinking DJT is a set in stone method and not an anonymous language learning community with a collection of learning resources. In his tiny mind nobody on DJT has ever learned Japanese if he can't go on Youtube and subscribe to them as well as donate to their Patreon to read their blog. He comes here talking about how great RTK and AJATT is because he is not in the mood in doing mind numbingly boring RTK exercises. He does not understand the thread and board culture and posts wojak images while greentexting, an obvious sign his Japanese learning started with the so called "Matt" shitposter stirring him on to clog up the Daily Japanese Thread with low quality posts.
The change in name was supposed to be signal that discussion should be about the language itself centered around Japanese media, not incessant talk about learning methods by irrelevant Youtubers. Leave this thread and follow your method if it is so great. Stop posting on this thread. You have a Discord for your own kind.

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Someone posted a transcription of a volume of manga last thread.

>>18608643

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>>18616353
>He has videos where he talks to natives. Idk what else there is... what kind of proof do you consider worthy? What a person who states they speak Japanese have to do for you to believe them?
Production on conversation level is by far one of the easiest skills you can obtain. The vocabularly used is extremely limited and you just won't use what you don't know whereas you can come across such things in other fields all the time.
He claims that he is better than an average native in japanese so I expect to see thing that natives struggle with.

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>>18615470
This will be my first and final comment on the subject in this thread but the op image and previous suggestion were posted by myself last thread. It was not at all for any shitposting purposes and I did not make this thread.
The following are the only posts I have made on the subject:
>18600692
>18601254
The reason I bothered to make a post about it is to quell any false flag arguments. For further disclosure the current op format, aside from the "Formerly referred to as [...]" was also something I posted, on /int/ when the threads were dying after a handful of posts but no one took issue with it so it wasn't a problem. This was also in no way done for shitposting purposes.
There is no attempt to turn the thread into a secret club or anything else, only an individual suggestion to bring the thread back inline aligned with what it really is: an otaku/weeb/whatever-you-call-it Japanese language learning thread that originated on /a/ and is still fundamentally the same where it counts -the guide and related resources- to when it was on /a/.
If the op not reflecting the images is an issue I can change most of those without too much trouble. There are a small handful of such images I've thrown together that reposted a bit for some reason, which can be changed to say whatever, really.
If the posting community ultimately rejects this premise then so be it but please don't use an earnest suggestion as grounds to blame other people for things they didn't do or try to make a conspiracy out of it. It was a single suggestion by a single person with no ulterior motives.

Hope that cleared up any misunderstandings.

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>>18612287

Not at all what I was asking. Trilled Rs, not regular Japanese Rs. Like this https://youtu.be/99M--FLG9_k?t=33s

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>>18616437
Some people have a mouth that's internally shaped in such a way that alveolar trills are significantly harder than uvulur trills. If you can make a trill in the back of your throat (low frequency amplitude vibration) but not with the tip of your tongue, you're probably like this.

Just to make sure, plug your nose before you try.

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一度でもハモらなかったらまた意識しなくなるわよ。
I'm having trouble understanding this. The person said this after she and another guy said the same thing at the same time twice.

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>>18616350
>Does little more than espouse the ideas of Krashen
>He's a terrible person with terrible ideas

Do you have brain damage?

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>>18616481
He recommends sentence mining, RTK, and actually reading a website someone designed as the front for a scam, so...

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>>18616485
Sorry, small correction: He recommends using RTK early on in the study of Japanese, without having an intuitive context for what it's doing for you or what to expect from it, before doing anything else substantial.

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>>18616418
I'm pretty sure he meant that in the sense that he knows more kanji, he learned fucking ethymology of kanji and traditional Japanese so that's the fields he may outsmart the natives.
But he also said that his pronunciation will never be better than native's...

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>>18616485
there's literally nothing wrong with sentence mining and RTK

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>>18616353
>what kind of proof do you consider worthy?
About certain proofs. Well, as a native I can write an intelligent essay about magnitude of topics, using intricate and turgid vocabularly as well as keep a conversation on complicated subjects. I can read just about everything writte in the language and tell you what this was about (in the same language) thereafter. I guess that you have similar experience with your native language too?

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>>18616476
so break it down and explain why it falls apart

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>>18616510
Sentence mining is largely a waste of time. Exposing yourself to simple sentences out of context is helpful as an absolute beginner, but beginners are very bad at mining. If it were helpful as an intermediate, or beginners were good at mining, it would have its place, but it doesn't satisfy my standards as-is.

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>>18616515
Yes, but do you imply that he should write an essay and only after that you could believe him he's fluent at Japanese?

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>>18616526
Citation needed

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>>18616542
Citation: https://www.reddit.com/user/nukemarine

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>>18616521
>If we haven't said the same thing at least once, again not become unconscious.

I'm not sure why ったら is there, why でも is there, or why また is there.

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>>18615461
next time change title to gaijin chinko sucking factory japanese thread (gcsfjt)

[Nukemarine !mvsesZQNhs No.]

>>18616544
Please don't post about me here

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>>18616556
Nukemarine doesn't have a tripcode and doesn't post on 4chan.

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>>18616526
They're not out of context though, you'll have come across them from reading or watching some native Japanese media.

The purpose of creating a sentence card with the i+1 you just learned is to save yourself having to revisit the same media every day to re-expose yourself to it and have it stick in your head.

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>>18616559
Yeah that's right. Only losers go on 4chan. I would never be caught dead posting here.

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>>18616544
Can someone give me the quick rundown on this guy? I keep seeing his name pop up, but I don't want to dig through a reddit profile.

Not the guy you're replying to btw

[realnukemarine !!9m66s5JgLny No.]

>>18616551
sounds like youre reading material way beyond your level i would stop immediately and read ehons

>>18616556
dont impersonate me ojt filth

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>>18616568
He started learning Japanese a very, very long time ago, but has never put down enough hours of consuming comprehensible input to get good. He spends almost all his learning time working with learning materials.

[Nukemarine !mvsesZQNhs No.]

>>18616568
Hi, I've been studying Japanese for about 20 years. I live in Japan, have a Japanese wife and kids, and I also teach Japanese for a living.

I also don't know any Japanese

[Matt !TaFZAZy6i2 No.]

Anyone know any good hair-growing techniques?

[Dogen !!Zq9mvmpLzHZ No.]

>>18616581
Just wear a hat

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>>18616568
Some dude who's terrible at Japanese but feels qualified to give advice and creates learning material for other idiots.

[yung "jamal" the nihongo docto(...) !!kI93HFMSUEY No.]

>>18616581
you gotta get on the rogaine foam tip my ninja

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Test

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icles

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>>18616527
I didn't strictly narrowed it down to the essay. I just listed what could correspond to my native standarts. Talking fluently on wide rance of topics indeed shows that you can keep on a conversation even when the topic doesn't suit you but chatting doesn't reflect it at all. You choose the topic and you speak the way you're used to.
Reading something aloud and describing it with your words later is a solid proof as well.

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in other words matt i will only take your dick orally if you dictate to me a thesis on modern nihongology both verbally and in writing

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>>18616622
I mean what's the other alternative than to believe a person to some degree beyond the ability that they showcase? Native speakers of Japanese didn't make compelling learning materials/method for foreigners so we have to make do with whatever there is.
DJT guide was written by someone who surely hasn't show off their Japanese near-native fluency nor is anyone expecting that.

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>>18616655
>Native speakers of Japanese didn't make compelling learning materials/method for foreigners
they did, it's called media meant for native consumers
>DJT guide was written by someone who surely hasn't show off their Japanese near-native fluency nor is anyone expecting that.
djt guide known to be written by people who were still at most lower intermediate

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>>18616658
>they did, it's called media meant for native consumers
yes, but I explicitly said for foreigners - you cannot simply start with Japanese native media and learn the language - you need some reference at least at the very beginning to your own language

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>>18616672
>you cannot simply start with Japanese native media and learn the language
yes you can

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>>18616674
what are you doing in this English thread on American site if you could learn fluent Japanese with sheer Japanese native materials?

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>>18616401
>>18616429
I'd like it if the name stayed this way myself. I'm not certain however it will improve the quality of the thread. I think it's almost a shame with how bad the posts are lately, just look at everything above this post. I'm not sure if it's appropriate to report these people as they are still somewhat talking about learning Japanese.

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>>18616683
maybe you would enjoy reddits learn japanese board

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For some reason TKGG doesn't really talk about this much.
I can put as many が into a single sentence as I need, it'll still be grammatically correct, right?
お前は日本語が学ぶことができない。

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>>18616697
You can start by learning to use particles.

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>>18616697
Actually I could just use "を" there.

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>>18616697
You're not going to understand how to compose sentences for a long time, so don't worry about it.

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>>18616706
"Start" ? Using particles is probably the most confusing part. I'll be seeing "の" in my nightmares.

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>>18616727
Would replacing the first "が" with "を" make the sentence correct?

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how exciting another round of musical particles
no wonder matt makes fun of you guys

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>>>18611286
>>>18611301
>>>18611355
uhh i still dont know what to do

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>>18616808
Are you serious? Just search the words on http://jisho.org/ and and add them manually or just get yomichan if you're lazy.

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>>18615948
Reading Shakugan no Shana. I'm enjoying it.

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イジらないで、長瀞さん 第一巻 when
少女終末旅行 第六巻 when

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>>18616900
Thanks anon the answer was pretty simple after all

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Hello,I am a Chinese,and I want to learn Japanese!I don't know about katakana but I watched some anime,I prefer like learn speaking Japanese and I want to find a language partner,thanks!if you want to study Chinese I can teach you,too!ヽ(￣ω￣(￣ω￣〃)ゝ

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>thread activity flatlines after name change
yikes, or maybe im tripping

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>>18617531
don't worry, we're changing it back to djt after this thread

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>>18617553
I vote to leave it be.

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Has anyone modified the core 2K deck without translation for the sentences? I know most of them but I don't really like the bad habit of checking if I translated it right when I know I did.

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>>18616249
yeah the retard who shills RTK but criticizes KKLC without reading it, then proceeds to say you can't criticize RTK if you haven't read it..

Nice.

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>>18617576
This
I love watching these e-celeb dick sucking normalfaggots squirm

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>>18615461
>anime, manga, light novels, Japanese video games, etc.
So me, the patrician, who only reads Japanese literary fiction isn't allowed here?
That's rude, dude.

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>>18617678
light novels and novels are literally the same thing

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>>18617586
>shills
back to your containment board

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>>18617678
>Murakami, Murakami, Murakami, the list goes on.

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>>18617683
>uses meme "back to /y/"
>thinks people don't know he's plebit newfag

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>>18617683
>WORDS OFFEND ME WAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>18617695
who are you quoting /pol/dditor

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>>18617337
what is this poster trying to achieve

[Anonymous No.]

>>18617702
based teen lmao

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>>18615461
From the thumbnail it looked like she was wearing a really tall chef hat.

[Anonymous No.]

this is a really good thread great job all

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>引き剥がす
don't google image that

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>>18617784
Holy fuck, I'm in yet another database now.

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>>18617706
It was obvious, brainlet.

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>>18617720
>teen lmao
>lmao

[Anonymous No.]

to commemorate the death of djt lets make a mixtape of all the best sounds of djt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPVjEIBAXbs
subsあり

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>>18616360
I see, that's rather interesting; guess that confirms my feeling that there was something really off about those numbers. That explains a lot of the discrepancies I often found in the numbers given that didn't line up with the time given by the aforementioned random websites, too. In any case, I'm pleased that it'll probably take me even more time to actually reach a proficiency beyond that. Thank you, that means I have even more time. Very glad to hear.

[Maki No.]

>>18617811
BASED

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DJT doesn't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618127
is that a typo or am I retarded

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>>18618127

Didn't you ask for advice with that some time back? Going for the reverse psychology approach now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618138
Trve japanese

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>>18618159
Just shitposting
Ain't really looking for explanations really

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>>18618127
Wat iz tis?

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>>18618172
really

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>>18615766
Bad guide. It omits a crucial part: RTK 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618127
The outside of the window didn't leave room for any doubt that it was night.

[Anonymous No.]

The DJT method isn't bad, but it's not the best approach if you want to learn how to speak and write. This makes sense since these threads were originally made for the purpose of making more translators for /a/

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>>18618381
Don't you mean OJT? :)

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>>18618406
What contributions has the OJT had to it in one day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618406
>Don't you mean OJT? :)
I hope we get past this faggotry pretty soon

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>>18618425
>>18618424
>Paid djt shills

Just fuck off

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>>18618424
A lot of shitposts.

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>>18618449
And how does that relate to the guide?

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>>18618466
I dunno, is there anything less than absolute zero?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

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>>18618479
-1

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>>18618496
>>18618494
"Absolute zero" is not 0C or 0F you retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618510
>Zero isn't zero
You're the retard.

[Anonymous No.]

A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If a negative-temperature system and a positive-temperature system come in contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the positive-temperature system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618510
Where did we both imply that?
None of us contributed units. Look at the Wikipedia article again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618517
gb2 high school

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618533
that should be you considering you don't know about negative absolute temperatures or how temperature is defined

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618531
Negative Kelvin doesn't exist in the universe, see >>18618527

It's theoretical nonsense

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618542
it does at the quantum scale

[Anonymous No.]

>今日も学校が終わると、一目散に自宅へ帰る。「ただいまーっ」トテテテ。。。と、お母さんが玄関まで飛んでくる。
Does anyone have any idea what the fuck is トテテテ? I thought maybe he could be stuttering but 「ただいまーっ」 is right before it and it closes the quotation mark, so I'm thinking トテテテ is already part of the narration and not something he said.

[Anonymous No.]

OCT - Otaku Chemistry Thread

[Anonymous No.]

Linux bros, I'm the guy who tried to start that project over on AB. If you use Linux and have stuff to contribute please do. Everyone who showed interest on AB is a lazy piece of shit and refuses to contribute. I'm not really sure why I expected anyone there to put any effort in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618632
Just throw a page up on an unmaintained wiki that nobody cares about or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>今日も学校が終わると、一目散に自宅へ帰る。「ただいまーっ」トテテテ。。。と、お母さんが玄関まで飛んでくる。
Does anyone have any idea what the fuck is トテテテ? I thought maybe he could be stuttering but 「ただいまーっ」 is right before it and it closes the quotation mark, so I'm thinking トテテテ is already part of the narration and not something he said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618632
>I'm not really sure why I expected anyone there to put any effort in.
Because you thought normalfags couldn't get onto private trackers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618632
I use Linux, what is AB?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm so glad I just used the fantastic resources of the guide and never involved myself with the shitposters. I genuinely never cared if someone else wants to talk shit about the guide and instead argue in favor of some money-making scheme here. I'm not really sure how the AJATT/Matt thing has somehow changed the narrative but let me remind you that you have been debating whether to use core 2k or RTK as a beginner's resource long before AJATT/Matt ever entered the conversation. And let me give you a second reminder that both core 2k and RTK are literally baby's first introduction to Japanese. So these new RTK shippers disguised as AJATTers and Matt subscribers you so vehemently debate are people who have been studying Japanese for like a month or two. That's all I'm gonna say. Have at it guys, I'm going to go enjoy some otaku shit in its native language with a smile on my face.

[Anonymous No.]

>OJT
If someone is wondering, this change comes from a single sperg who got really buttmad at a random passerby who attacked his mini Hidamari Sketch dump.

Dump: https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/86652959/#86652990
Result: https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/86691175/#86696299

This same anon seems to have his ups and downs in serotonin levels and every now and then quits DJT forever, until next time. OJT is a deluded attempt to avoid the unavoidable, being trolled by the hacker known as 4chan.
He's resourceful and dedicated - a nice chap at heart -, but holy shit, does he need to man the fuck up.

Stop this infantile divide fit, CoR is our 神器, Daily Japanese is our 主義, anything else is biased noise. Your feelings shouldn't override the community's balance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618692
もう一回日本語でお願いします

>>18618718
別に気にしてないが

[Anonymous No.]

>actually referring to DJT as /djt/ in the OP
I can already tell this retarded change is made by a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618692
>argue in favor of some money-making scheme

AJATT is free, you fucking troll. Go back to r*ddit

[Anonymous No.]

Petition to change the name of this thread to AJATTT (All Japanese All The Time Thread)

[Anonymous No.]

wouldnt it be njattt
no japanese all the time thread

[Anonymous No.]

Petition to change the name of this thread to DKWDAKJT (Dunning-Krugers Who Don't Actually Know Japanese Thread)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618718
日本語でいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618743
ajatt is a front for a literal scam
educate yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618736
私も

[Anonymous No.]

Petition to change the name of this thread to MVJG (Matt vs Japan General)

[Anonymous No.]

petition to change the name of this thread to OTDG off topic drama general

[Anonymous No.]

This is an English fucking thread full of people that are LEARNING (i.e. don't know) Japanese.

It's so fucking pointless, you can't learn anything by coming here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618667
Animebytes

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618692
what would you say is 'above' core and rtk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618754
Why not TAJATTTT (The All Japanese All The Time Talk Thread)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618799
Did you also know that water is indeed wet

[Anonymous No.]

petition to change name of thread to epic poop boys just wanna jack off to hentai (epbjwjoth)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618802
The part where you actually learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618779
英語でもいいと思うが

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618802
memrise

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618825
否、日本語で話したらイイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618802
Dogen, then Matt, then a 20 light-year power gap up the pyramid is Nukemarine writing classical Japanese scrolls laughing at all the people he has trolled

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618835
きみはどうでもエエと思うが

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618835
どっちもいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618718
>OJT is a deluded attempt to avoid the unavoidable, being trolled by the hacker known as 4chan.
No, its a necessary change to reflect the board its now on. Normalfags are welcome on /int/, that is if its still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618923
but nothing will change it will still be threads with several hundred suck ass posts lol

[Anonymous No.]

test

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618941
Still needed doing. Nothing brings a smile to my face watching extroverted リア充 get asspained by a simple name change.
They will never learn japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18615461
>田崎くんと
>成瀬さん
>どうなったのかな?

>さあ...
>こればっかりは
>どうしようも‥

What does he mean with こればっかりはどうしようもない? What's the role of the こればっかり? "Just now"? And what is the どうしようもない doing there?

Is he saying something like "there's no way we can know something like that"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618993
How's that autism treating you, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619045
Pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

こればっかりね

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619015
If you don't understand it then you're not ready for it. Keep reading until you find an i+1 sentence. You're wasting your time coming to this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619015
１ 目の前に示されている分量・程度。多く、その少ないことを強調していうのに用いる。こんな程度。これっぱかり。「―の金では足りない」
２ このことだけ。このものだけ。これだけ。「―はお許しください」「―は差し上げるわけにはいかない」
３ （「こればかりも」に打消しの語を伴い、副詞的に用いて）ほんの少しも。全く。これっぱかり。「―も疑わない」

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619117
if i couldnt read the manga page how can i read this lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619090
>You're wasting your time coming to this thread
you're saying this to shit on the people here but the people here say the exact same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619123
Not me btw.
I understand it means これだけ or this little, but I still don't get what he's trying to say.

>There's nothing we can do
is the best I could come up with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619136
Oh, meant to quote >>18619117
him too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619136
There's three meanings, dude. Pay attention to the others too. Try to think of the sentence without ばっかり first, then try to read the meanings I posted/paste words of the description you don't understand on jisho, and see if you can figure it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618993
nothing is going to change

your brain is incredibly tiny

[Anonymous No.]

>>18617585
Just edit the back of the cards in anki. This is one of the strengths of anki: anyone can edit the format so it's really easy to change a well made deck to your liking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618993
sup ass pained realjyu here 笑って
seriously ムキになちゃって
笑って

死ぬまで笑ってて
わたしのように

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619200
It would be easier to understand if he used それ, but I don't really understand what he's trying to reference with これ. there doesn't seem to be anything that could be referenced by a "this".

[Anonymous No.]

きみってそればっかりね

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618653
Say that out loud and picture someone running towards the front door.

[Anonymous No.]

早く死に場所を選べ
貴様は死ぬべき男だ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619117
https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C%E3%81%B0%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8A%E3%81%AF%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%81%AB%E3%82%82%E3%81%AA%E3%82%89%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84

It seems to be a set phrase, though. Which essentially means どうしようもない.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18615766
This isn't too bad if your end goal is absolute fluency, but I simply can't take someone who advocates "meditation" seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619781
meditation is gay replace it with working out
just get in your good head space and be one with the universe while you do some lat pulldowns instead of sit on your ass lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619746
People in here don't know that much Japanese. Don't take them so seriously, they're just being insecure about their own ignorance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619963
Fuck you, I'm a 二本語達人。

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619979
Surely you meant 二午後達人

[Anonymous No.]

I know it's just a coincidence that they both start with と, but holy shit why do both 取る and 通る have so many god damn meanings each

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620100
Take a guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620100
Both of those verbs only have exactly one meaning

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618779
何で？/ic/のPost your workみたいな奴だね。もし日本語を上手に話せたらもうここに道草する訳ないと思ってないか？
雑談を探しているなら自分で話題を提供したほうがいい、他人に任せないでくれ。スレに価値付けない。

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXDsvpnVEyw
Can anyone decipher this dialect speech? I saw a translation, where 「それでええのん」 was translated as "You can bark softer." It feels to me like a rhetorical 「それでいいの？」since the j-j dict says it has the meaning of よい in Kansai.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't studied Japanese for about 6 months now. Everytime I want to start I get stressed out: it's as if I'm choking!

I've studied Japanese for 2.5 years almost every day and today I found out I barely passed my JLPT N5 so I decided to pick up learning Japanese again. However when I read about others who passed their N5 after a couple of months of study it feels like I'm choking! I also have no idea what to study next which causes that choking feeling to become even stronger. Has anyone ever experienced the same thing? How do I stop this feeling? I want to study Japanese so bad but I have no idea where to start anymore... Should I just quit? Thinking about quiting also gives me this choking feeling but will that make it stop by not thinking about it anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw people shilling for ajatt are still on this ENGLISH website.
that includes you, matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620283
No one here is shilling AJATT, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620254
did you pause the video in that exact moment and didn't hear what she said afterwards or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620293
>t. matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620300
Of course not. If that helped me understand what ええのん meant, I wouldn't be asking for help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620325
since you're retarded she says もっと小さくやろ afterwards btw, which could be translated as "You can bark softer."
and yeah the ええ means いい, you could search it up on google and that would come up literally in the first results

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620337
How does もっと小さくやろ give me a clear definition of ええ? At best I could guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618993
>Still needed doing. Nothing brings a smile to my face watching extroverted リア充 get asspained by a simple name change.They will never learn japanese.
I still can't believe that this version of DJT was created be this autistic mindset, yet most people follow instead of staying over at /int/'s DJT. This general was always to ''stick it to the man and to all those idiots who have real lives and girlfriends!''. It's autistic and childish, and this DJT -> OJT thing really takes the fucking cake.

[Anonymous No.]

any of you 童貞s ever asked out a 美女 in 日本語???

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620441
>It's autistic and childish, and this DJT -> OJT thing really takes the fucking cake.
If you don't like it you can fuck off to /int/ or some other board about real lives and girlfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620441
>I still can't believe that this version of DJT was created be this autistic mindset
It's just one ass-ravaged faggot trying to push his dumb /r9k/-tier fears and insecurities in the thread. Most people don't give a flying fuck because at the end of the day it won't change much and it's not hard to go back to renaming the thread back to DJT. The whole /int/ vs /jp/ DJT thing is a whole different topic, and it does make sense that some people wouldn't like discussion (or whatever is left from a discussion) to go off-topic because of some retards flagposting in /int/, which granted, didn't happen quite as often the last times I went there. The whole split is kinda stupid, but then again back then there wasn't much of a choice. Both threads are much more similar than people want to make it seem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620483
She wouldn't even understand me, might even be repulsed by my sociopathic behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620483
なんじゃこのスレ？？？
英語で話す奴らしかいねえじゃん
お前らは本当に日本語を学んでるの？？
エロゲのために学んでるの？？
チンカスくせえなーこのスレー

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620441
What you're calling an "autistic mindset" is only a long-delayed revolt against the consensus of a bunch of general-drwelling retards that the /a/ DJT thread didn't need to have anything to do with anime, which is what got you kicked off that board in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620507
>The whole split is kinda stupid, but then again back then there wasn't much of a choice.
>Both threads are much more similar than people want to make it seem.
These contradictory posts don't compute for me. If they were similar, and if the fears of flagposting never really happened (even though it was the excuse these guys gave the mods in order to make a 2nd DJT here), then why the fuck are the threads split? People who want DJT should just migrate to /int/ and leave these autistic fucks here with their temper tantrums and autistic arguments. I find it hard to believe that it's only one guy causing all this chaos (this guy >>18620502 is who I presume you meant)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620534
自信もってよーー
お前がそう望むなら何でもできるさ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620547
はいはい、ウジウジしなでさっさと/int/へ行け

二度と来なくていい

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620552
俺できるかも、彼女ができないだから

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620575
それな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620585
そんなこと思う限り、彼女ができないだよーー
水のように流れ、友よ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620547
People went to /int/ because it was the only place to go first, and everyone was complaining that the /jp/ mods were a pain in the ass to deal with to even consider making threads here (although I think they even tried making threads and they got deleted on sight, I don't really know how they ended up allowing the threads here). In the end the second thread here happened and some people already got used to /int/ so they didn't consider worth moving here, while others couldn't stand it over there and migrated. People just get used to different stuff, and they stay more because of the fear of change instead of there being any particular advantage to being in either thread. No one's going to migrate to /int/ for DJT because this place is already DJT. There are autists in both threads and in every board in general, and also there's pointless arguments and shitposting everywhere as well, but the fag I'm referring to is the one who throws his autistic fit and changes the thread's name for no real reason, and he certainly is just on retard.

Also /offtopic

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620586
あれな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620608
これな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620608
せやな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620543
これも

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620608
やるな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620617
>>18620620
>>18620621
>>18620624
WAKARU

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620605
>People went to /int/ because it was the only place to go first
Well obviously you weren't with us on /a/. The mod over there actually took the DJT thread that was up at the time and physically moved it on /int/. DJT users had no choice in the matter. For the rest of what you said, you're sort of right I guess, except for the part about there being as much shitposting on both DJTs. The one here has way more shitposting, and that even after the assiduous mod gets done deleting half the posts in each thread. /int/'s DJT has no such mods, and even then contains a lot less shitposting than here. This was always an autism den full of shitflinging, even though people here tried to make it seem like /int/ was like that with accusations of flagposting and the like (which is in part what made mods consider letting a second version of DJT be here...all built on lies and bullshit autistic screeching)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620603
目を覚まされた
ありがとうな、兄弟

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620643
気に入らないなら帰ってもいいけどね
ここはｄｊｔじゃなくなったからお前に居残る理由もあるまい

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620646
いつだっていいぜ、友よ
／jp／は俺の家族だ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620657
If this isn't DJT, then why is it still using DJT's number ordering system? Check and mate.

[Anonymous No.]

爆笑

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620717
それな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620643
I know I said I was going to stop but
>/int/'s DJT has no such mods, and even then contains a lot less shitposting than here
I've used both threads at times since the split and honestly this is just false. I used DJT while it was still in /a/, but I wasn't in /a/ during the exact thread that got moved, I arrived next thread when there was a shitstorm over /qa/. And already back then there was a whole bunch of shitflinging in /a/, which just got translated to /int/ and afterwards, here. Threads can become trainwrecks real quick, that's nothing new. Also every once in a while a shitposter comes and shits up threads just because. A while ago there was one faggot posting with a NZ flag over on /int/ and it seemed like he just google translated random shit and posted in unrelated languages, and threads got derailed immediately everytime, especially because he explicitly ban-evaded to keep going. I don't know if that was just a one time thing or if the retard got tired and left, but that kind of autistic things isn't exclusive to this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620756
>A while ago there was one faggot posting with a NZ flag over on /int/ and it seemed like he just google translated random shit and posted in unrelated languages, and threads got derailed immediately everytime, especially because he explicitly ban-evaded to keep going.
It was an Aussie, and he was pretty much shitposting everywhere. Even on this DJT here, and on /g/ too.

[Anonymous No.]

マジでクソスレだなー
こいつらはどこから来たんっすか？？？

[Anonymous No.]

>>18615461
>まあ‥‥いくつか考えられることはあるよ。ひとつには、もともと夢っていうのは、現実生活の中で気になっていることが出てきがちだってこと。日頃、『こうなったらいやだな』って無意識に畏れていることが、夢に出てくるワケ

I'm pretty sure the first sentence is somewhat idiomatic.
Does it mean:
>Well, there are a few that come to mine, the first one being....
?

[Anonymous No.]

未来の／jp／がこんなチンカスくせえみたいな奴らに、
なれないように、まじで祈っている

とりあえず10km走ってこいてめえら

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620821
It means exactly what it says. "Thinkable" = plausible, conceivable, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Does おひとりで imply that the person that is alone is not the speaker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620815
クソポストが楽しい
(That's probably wrong)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620839
お一人で、シコってください

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620861
ある意味では間違いないよ

ある程度に楽しいぞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619963
There are many phrases that only weblio lists as set phrases, but all dictionaries list separately. There's no point in adding こればっかり to どうしようもない if not for the emphasis it brings. Note the third meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620894
but the third meaning says it's only used with the こればっかりも form. So, some clarification could've come in handy, that's all I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620861
クソリプは楽しいぞー
一緒にやろうぜ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620865
そうですね
>>18620917
「AJATT]は何ですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620952
I can't quote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620952
わからん

俺は自勉強をしたので、雑魚のこと全然わかんねー

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620982
>自勉強

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620952
個室に引きこもってずっとアニメ見ながらクソニートとしての無駄な生活を送るというメソッド

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620989
新しい言葉だ

お前は時代遅れだけだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620989
シコって寝ろ爺ちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621032
>>18620982
なるほど

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618718
>CoR is our 神器
CoR, the djt site, etc. were also originally lambasted by normalfags like you, with the same claims of divide and conquer, etc. Please try to get some perspective because here you are an outsider dragging mud though a house and getting annoyed when the owner tells you to either take off the boots or leave.

3DPD imagery has no place in these threads. Stop this infantile divide fit; your sense of entitlement shouldn't override the community's balance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621046
>お前は時代遅れだけだ
「お前はただの時代遅れだ」ってほうがよくないだろうか?

[Anonymous No.]

I understand the overall meaning of this phrase but am confused about what ってことは means. Something like "therefore"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621090
いや、元の方が良い

（と思う

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621147
ってことは
=ということは

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621147
かいぞくのアジトにでいりするふねが

かいぞくせんだけとはかぎらないとおもうけど

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620839
yes, おひとり is 尊敬表現

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621147
>Which means...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618718
>>>/int/86918752
>Looks like they went full retard now
>>>/int/86919838
>I think it would hurt the overall quality of a language learning thread to arbitrarily narrow its scope on otaku stuff

[Anonymous No.]

What does haahaa mean in jap? What does hoihoi mean in jap? I'm pretty sure both are related to sex or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621375
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

ｄｊｔはどこ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621390
No all I'm asking are words I can't get google translate to translate.

[Anonymous No.]

the ultimate state of ジャパン語

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quSAVN-MQ0E

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621468
>google translate

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621375
This thread is for learners of Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621661
Yeah mate I'm trying to learn Japanese. I heard someone describe someone else as "Haahaa" and "hoihoi". Can you fucks stop fucking with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621736
If you're being ironic you are not very funny otherwise read the guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621736
They are likely Japanese onomatopoeia which would mean anyone on this thread is automatically too low level to help you. Now piss off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621767
Oh I get it now. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18615774
自分の経験に起きたから3時間後か4時間後でやると脳が最高性能に利けそうだ
とはいえ、俺の脳は準備が遅いかもしれんな

[Anonymous No.]

アニメ語もうやめておにいちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622099
>自分の経験　だと　起き　て　から3時間後か4時間後　に　やると脳が最高性能に利　くよう　だ
だと、もっと自然　もし修正されるのがうっとうしかったらreplyください

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622228
こっちの台詞よお前

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622237
修正してくれてどうも
英語より日本語で答えようと思ったが、見ての通り不自然でよくない案だったね

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622099
初心者だよ。
あなたは何を書いたか全然分からない。

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622270
Was just trying to say that 3 or 4 hours after I wake up seems to be the best time to do my reps. Your experience may differ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622291
Do you wake up 3-4 hours before work/classes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622310
I wake up at 8 so my reps usually get done at around 10-12. I don't have a job and I do online courses so my schedule isn't particularly tight for those.
If you've got work or school then I dunno what advice to give you other than maybe you should have some coffee or what have you then do your reps during a break. Shouldn't take you more than 30-40 minutes if you're focused.

[Anonymous No.]

誰がrepsやってんだ
flashcardsやるのは時間の無駄だぞ
早く切り捨てろ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGTHI-J5JiE
これがall you need my ninja

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7647Cyzj9JQ
>Hating on "Japanese From Zero"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622387
thirty
years
三十年間

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622387
his combovers real cute and dadly combined with that sweater in this vid

[Anonymous No.]

>>18621068
>normalfags like you
See? Now you're seeing the retard who talked shit about your waifu at every nook and crane.
There are certainly medicines to cope with paranoia if it's that bad.
What do you expect me to do? Upload my self-recorded idolshit karaoke folder so I can "fit in" with your personal definition of ~Otaku~, proving I'm worthy of posting on OJT?

Here are some random folders from my main HDDs to prove my worth to you, o queen of otaku chads who want to gatekeep pirated resources.
You can't say how much a "normalfag like me" contributed to the guide and I won't even try to make my free, voluntary contributions hostage of my online bravado against normal windmills, paying back to the community is all I care about.

Now stop this middle-aged-woman divorce-seeking suicidal spree of yours and leave DJT to people who are mentally stable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622359
つまるところ日本語を学ぶのは時間の無駄やない？
それより半角はやめてな

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622387
I watched this whole video and some others in his channel... And while I do agree with his points and methods to Learn Japanese, sadly... I HATE HIM AS A PERSON!

Just because he's at fluent level of japanese, he's contantly shitting at everyone else and talking like he's the god and we are still children, with that I mean that his way of speaking is rather rude and constantly reminding of everyone else's weak spots in such a wrong way.

He even published videos talking about other learning japanese channels, BUT... (Don't hate on me yet), I do know that he's right, the channels that he post something about it, really were learners trying to sound like "masters", but still making mistakes that any Natives would notice, he's right on that, BUT... He just sounds sooooo arrogant and even make personal attacks which he's not even sure if he's right or not, he just attacks without any proof... Did he need to attack that guy just to empasize how that guy "MUST BE" (that's exactly what he did in his videos, deduce how the other person must be) just to make us trust his methods and actual fluency level. God, that's so dumb and immature...

He remembers me some of my teachers that really had a lot of knowledge under their belt, but where so terrible at explaining and ever worse at something called "HUMILITY" that it turned impossible for me to ever like or respect any of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622387

[Anonymous No.]

previous long post is a copy paste from reddit don't respond to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622429
Matt fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622428

[Anonymous No.]

petition thread name change to matt daddys bitch boy assembly

[Anonymous No.]

I really like RTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622444
god you are bitching about Matt every time I get here, do you have life dude? or do you at least study any Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622444

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622448
Post your RTK stats man.

[Anonymous No.]

>use matt's method
>read, write, speak in a year

>use any other method
>shitpost all day on (d)ojt for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622466
one of these has actually been done by actual human beings the other has not

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622466
this lol
but 1 year times 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622470
No, both happen. Sorry sweetie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2H63wUoVlU
>>18622471
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622478
i seeked thru that entire video and didnt hear one lick of nihongo dear lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622471

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBgK4a3FWQ

>seeked
it's sought, better learn English first before you try putting people down for their subpar Japanese skills

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622483
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622478
This guy didn't learn Japanese because of Matt's method. He learned Japanese because achieved +20 hours of input every single day for over a year without any breaks whatsoever. It doesn't much matter whether you do AJATT or an approach more common on DJT if you can get these kind of hours of input. The sheer reality is that even someone who follows AJATT will not be near his level if he can only put it in a normal amount of time of maybe 2-4 hours a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622489
>>seeked
>it's sought
No, the past tense of "seek (through)" is "seeked (through)". Learn English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622466
Meditation and prayer are the key to fluency

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622489
no one says i sought through a video lol take your own advice lmao

>>18622498
i know you are but what am わたし

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622499
muh time argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622489
btw this guys literally falls apart within two minutes and i can barely understand him anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622387

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622511
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622499
you don't take into consideration that the methods that he used yielded such results because they were enjoyable to him - you just talk about the time it took

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: people who haven't reached fluency in Japanese think they're the right people to judge someone else's fleuncy in Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622520
Okay, can you objectively say AJATT sentence mining and RTK is more enjoyable or something? Obviously not.
I talk about the time it took because the time you invest is the most important factor. Someone who spends 8 hours rather than 4 hours learns much faster. Now imagine the difference between 20 hours of input a day and 2 hours of input.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622530
sorry but if i want to read novels i'm not gonna listen to someone to doesn't read novels (japanese from zero)

likewise if i want to shitpost on 5ch i'm not gonna listen to someone who doesn't shitpost on 5ch (matt)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622530
itt: people epic buttmad that they not perapera yet and will never be

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622545
they will be man, it's just about time
everyone will become fluent with the core deck and no RTK, just give it 8 more years

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622549
if i just fuckin gaman and sit down and gambaru with these flashcards all my nihongo yumes will kanarazu kanau thats what ima keep shinjiruing

[Anonymous No.]

なんかおかしなことはじまった

もしかしてプランＢ？

[Anonymous No.]

i'm learning japanese so i can get $3000p/m via patreon

[Anonymous No.]

guys, I gave the Core Deck a try but I simply don't get this model of learning by hoarding single words - they've fallen on my head. I think I will start mining sentences so I find the words within a context that I care about. The Core is kinda brutish in its nature, it's not far off the RTK method except you learn some actual Japanese with it - but nonetheless it lacks any sort of logic or fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622715
That's what I'm literally doing, nothing wrong with that. At least that's a genuine skill you can monetise unlike these literal whores who get money off soyboys by flashing their bodies.

You sound bitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622715
Dumb frogposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622726
wait, what? i couldn't have been more neutral in my tone. i was being sincere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622741
My bad then. It did sound neutral upon rereading it but I initially thought otherwise due to the context in which your comment appeared.

[Anonymous No.]

He does it for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622717
Yeah this method of learning is dumb and terribly inefficient but quasi mandatory to get you started as trying to read without any knowledge of the grammar/vocab is even dumber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622717
single sentences are still too isolated what you need to learn is context and concepts and that takes experience you cant find in a book

gonna need to do some serious ajatting mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618282
No. In the scene, the main character is wondering why no one cares that it's night outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18622717
If you know all the words and grammar in a sentence you can read it without any problem even if you don't have much experience with reading overall.
Saying that learning isolated words is bad or ineffective is plain ignorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623233
youtu.be/TMlyhZpGbwI#t=12

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623233
It's ineffective because 1. You don't get context, which is necessary to learn the precise meaning of the word, and to learn in what contexts the word is used. 2. It's easier to remember words encountered in context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623255
>precise meaning
This is a red herring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623233
>If you know all the words and grammar in a sentence you can read it without any problem even if you don't have much experience with reading overall.

Hm, I don't think that's always true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18618538
He meant 0K, which is often called absolute zero. Nobody calls 0C or 0F this way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623403
congratulations, you just responded to an ancient conversation that you didn't even read

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623255
>the precise meaning of the word
Where will this meme die? The meanings of your cards and your answers depend only on you. You can make it as precise and perfect as you want. If you mean the difference among endless synonyms that depends on context I don't really see why you would care until you're striving for production ability. But even in this case it's highly debatable whether you should even think about this stuff early in your studies.
>2. It's easier to remember words encountered in context.
How it's easier and why? If I add a word in anki it doesn't mean that it will magically disappear from any text.
And trying to memorize the words purely from the context can be a lot more time inefficient than just adding a card in anki and going though the reviews. It takes me about 40
seconds in average to add a card including its definitions from japanese dictionary, then another ~35 seconds on the card until it gets mature (if I don't click again). And I'm sure that it takes a lot more to look for a word in a dictionary until you nail it down. With 20k+ words it very well can make a difference of hundreds of hours. Some anti-ankers here even say that they hand write kanjis.
Not even saying that you will read a lot faster hence efficiently when you know more vocab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619579
Then I see it as stuttering but why would it close the quotation 「」 mark right after ただいまーっ if he was still saying something after? That's the part that confuses me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623549
>How it's easier and why?
It's easier because the brain remembers things by making associations. Context makes it easier to create associations than looking at a word in a vacuum.
I know you will misunderstand the above answer because you didn't read the conversation properly though.
>And trying to memorize the words purely from the context can be a lot more time inefficient than just adding a card in anki
You didn't read the conversation properly, specifically the initial post, can't reply to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623823
It's not stuttering, it's the sound of footsteps. Also, fucking your mom isn't cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18623862
>fucking your mom isn't cool
m8 did you forget you're on 4chan??

[Anonymous No.]

fucking your mom is cool for me personally

[Anonymous No.]

「ママとセックスしてほしい」と言った。
ママは、「すまん、お風呂のとき見ちゃったあの微小な赤ん坊チンチンでママが満足できない」って。

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624051
ワロタ

[Anonymous No.]

christ what is going on in this thread all you guys are doing is arguing over who is a shill or not

just go study some Japanese brehs

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624051
同じく

[Anonymous No.]

75% of learners miss this question. Anon, you DO know the difference between は and が, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624372
が because that apartment hadn't been introduced yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624372
は because it's contrasting with the previous apartment

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624448
できない
>>18624463
できる

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624372
は, because in the next sentence the apartment is obviously in the context and he can talk about it with ここに. If you used が, you couldn't do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624372
は because apartments don't walk. That should've been everyone's answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624372
は, because が doesn't feel right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624545
>doesn't feel right.
That's basically how I make my decisions in all languages.

[Anonymous No.]

I tried sentence cards, the problem is that you only remember the new word in the context of a unique sentence. Your brain associates the preceding sounds of the sentence before the new word as a signal to pronounce the reading of the word, just like poetry, you don't realize you don't actually know the reading associated with the kanji. When encountering the same word later on in my reading practice I could not even recognize the word as a "known word", even though anki was supposed to make me remember it, that's because even though I knew the meaning, I couldn't connect the pronunciation with the kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624545
>>18624569
based krashen bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624573
You're doing it wrong then. You need to do the 4 verifications for every sentence card

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624636
you mean this ? http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/10000-sentences-how/
doesn't contradict the problem I just described

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624663
>Know the reading of the Kanji.
>You should know the function of each part of the sentence, otherwise you can’t truly be said to be understanding it.

How can you say you did this but not be able to know the word in the wild? Do you not know your kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624683
I told you, because the preceding words in the sentence act as a cue to make you remember the connection between the pronunciation and kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624693
What? Cue for the Kanji? Are you even thinking before writing your troll posts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624700
can you try figuring out by yourself before belittling others? I think I make my statement quite clear

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624728
Look, all I know I how humans learn language. I learned English by listening to English sentences, not individual words. Anki isn't a replacement for 24/7 immersion, it's just a gentle reminder of what you've encountered so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624740
You didn't do English sentences in anki to learn English. Stop shitposting already

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625101
I don't want to take 10 years to talk like a Japanese 10 year old, Anki is helpful but not necessary to learning a language.

At least if you learn sentences you are BARE MINIMUM at least learning how to communicate a thought in Japanese, a word is just nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625163
Post your Anki sentence deck stats

[Anonymous No.]

After struggling with Anki I started reading raw stuff on the panda which is really motivating. Only shitty thing is that Kanjitomo crashes when the browser isn't focused and I really don't know that many kanji. Is there a nice resource/starterkit for all the lewd stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625295
>Kanjitomo crashes when the browser isn't focused
I'm not getting this so you might be able to fix it somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625303
It crashes when I move the mouse over to my second monitor or hover over the taskbar. I could fix it via hotkeys but if it crashes this often I won't rely on it too much, which is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you guys think about Verbs and Essentials of Grammar third edition by Rita L. Lampkin? I picked it up at a bookstore and I like it so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's a "characters talking about what is their favorite food" episode

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625649
Screw that, I've given up on food vocabulary in every language

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625698
The names of those food items are borrowed from multiple different languages

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625716
Yeah, that's kind of how food is ever since we invented trade

[Anonymous No.]

>仮に本当にUFOである可能性をまけにまけて１０％としてやろう
What the hell does the まけにまけて part mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625757
>仮に
>supposing
>for argument's sake

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625757
What are you confused about? Form better questions man.
Do you not know the meaning of the verb まける or are you stumped about the grammar pattern?
まける means something along the lines of "to give in"
As for the grammar you've probably heard it as in 待ちに待った, it just means to do X to a great extent. You could probably figure this out using the popular "don't think feel" approach

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625757
まけにまけて in this context is a reference to 大負けに, as in a large reduction in price, percentage, numbers, etc.
>For the sake of argument, let's say that [there is only a 10% likelihood/lower it down to a only a 10% chance] of UFOs existing
That sort of thing.

Sorry about the other anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624545
That was my exact answer. I don't know if that's good or bad but frankly I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626061
>lower it down to a only a 10% chance
In this case it's raising it though, otherwise you are correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>18624372
は because が would sound so wrong.

After thinking about it with が it makes it sound like the apartment is walking to school which is clearly wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626061
>まけにまけて in this context is a reference to 大負けに
It's not a "reference" to jack shit, it's just what the word 負ける means. From its nuance of giving in. In this case it doesn't make sense to talk about lowering price because he's not lowering the probability, in this case he's giving in and raising it to match the argument of the person he's talking to.

[Anonymous No.]

What was the first manga you guys read in Japanese? I'm thinking of trying out JoJo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626244
よつばと！ volumes 1 and 2, or 惡の華 if you mean first full series.
ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 has a relatively high amount of text per page, which might be frustrating for beginners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626244
The very first was Yotsubato when I barely had enough knowledge to make sense of 2/3 the things in there. Dropped it before volume 2 both because it was boring and because I wasn't ready. Studied some more and later decided to go get my ass kicked on novels and visual novels and from there it skyrocketed. Never really got back to manga even though at this point I'm pretty used to reading already.

Not trying to meme but manga is kind of lackluster. All you get is dialogue pretty much and nothing else. There's no description, rarely any sort of narration, so on. Just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626301
>yotsubato
>boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626297
The nice thing about JoJo though is that because the characters are such talkative fuckers, they speak almost in complete sentences so there's less need to have to figure out the meaning behind super short abbreviated phrases like there is in other action manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626244
tomo chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626342
You think so? In that very pic I already spot こった which will probably send a beginner to google right away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626382
>they speak almost in complete sentences so there's less need to have to figure out the meaning behind super short abbreviated phrases like there is in other action manga.
Learn 2 read

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626393
If we got one random not nitpicked page and something already shows up, chances are the rest is not much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626400
please calm down and read his post again

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625698
Not too many words I don't recognize. Doesn't seem too bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626244
I'm reading a mix. Most I've read is Dragon Ball.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626096
>>18626123
My god, fuck off you autistic manchild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626698
Politely correcting a mistake that could lead to confusion for the learner is associated with being an autistic manchild?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18626244
Nisekoi. Pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus Christ. People behave like apes in this place.

[Anonymous No.]

>もぞもぞと身体を揺すると、太ももの柔らかな感触と、身体を通じて胸が揺れる感触が頭に伝わってくる。
Is the 通じて part just saying "I felt the shaking of her breasts through her body"?

[Anonymous No.]

which do you think would have the better improvement, the person who reads 1-2 hours a day but skips days frequently, or someone who reads 30 minutes a day, but every day

[Anonymous No.]

>>18619015
Seems to say "they're nothing more than an acquaintance."

[Anonymous No.]

Are Isekais in general as easy as konosuba? It's so simple I feel like I'm reading yotsubato in novel form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627418
isekai are usually statsfests

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627026
Go jisho 通じて. It's an adverb. Basically, the feeling (from touch) is going through the body and reaching the head.

>>18627429
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627457
I don't think that's what it is here, considering the （彼女）身体を揺する part and the fact that he's just giving her cunnilingus.

[Anonymous No.]

「あの人……、うまくいくと思う？」

「いいや、思わない」

「なんで？」

「例えば十人くらいの人間が何かをなしとげようと決意して、その願いを叶かなえることができるのは、一人いればいい方だ。だからうまくいかない」

I don't understand the last part. "10 people have the resolution to accomplish something. For making that something come true, one person is better, so it will not go well (for the man by himself)"? What does that mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627457
>>18627501
https://j-nihongo.com/wotsujite/

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625163
A word is a unit of speech, a sentence is nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627537
Not really answering my question here. I'd love to hear your explanation of your interpretation, rather than dictionary pages.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people still post random lines by themselves with nothing else to accompany them and without providing any sort of explanation or context whatsoever and then expect others to want to help?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627570
I just need help understanding the logic behind what's being said if you're referring to >>18627508. But if I must: a man is going on a journey by himself for the first time, then two people initiate that dialogue.

[Anonymous No.]

they wouldnt do that shit if they would just fuckin read unko chan for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627457
look up the wn for tenken and read chapters 0 and 00 for a laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627508
Let's say that there are 10 people trying to accomplish something. If even one of them makes it, that's a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

x people striving (together?) to accomplish something that one person can do alone (for everyone?) or am I retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627607
No, いい方 in this sentence doesn't mean that it's better or more efficient or whatever for just one person to do it, it means "more positive outcome", where the 悪い方 would be if 皆が事故で死んで永遠にこの世をさまよい続けることになる or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627596
>>18627631
I see. I was misinterpreting いい方（ほう）as the "better way". Thank you for the explanation. I'll remember to keep that meaning of 方 in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627583
I wasn't referring to you in specific. At least you posted a few lines before your actual question.

Also, for some reason you seem to be skipping a few words in your read.

>10 people have the resolution to accomplish something.
You skipped 例えば completely. So he's talking about an hypothetical example.

> For making that something come true, one person is better
You are skipping できる and いれば. IF one person CAN do it. いい方 means it's a good outcome, a preferable outcome, so on.

So think of it like "assuming 10 people have the resolution to accomplish something, it will already be a good outcome if one of them manages to do it. That's why (because the chance is only 1 in 10) that person will not succeed"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627631
i was definitely not thinking along the lines you're implying i was

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627664
You were thinking about cooperation and common goals, which is off the mark. In fact, the sentence doesn't even say that the 何か is the same thing for all 10 or so people. The character is just saying that few people (~10%) are able to accomplish the goals they strive for, so, statistically speaking, that guy's journey is not gonna go well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627690
>You were thinking about cooperation and common goals
i wasn't, the ? are not things i expect it to mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627700
OK, my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627653
>skipping a few words in your read

I ignored the hypothetical because for whatever reason I thought it was unnecessary. It seems it was just a matter of not understanding how the supposition fit into the sentence. Thank you again. I'm a moron who needs to not skip over words.

[Anonymous No.]

>チャック
>fastener; zipper​
Every day I hate katakana more and more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627163
30 minute man

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627771
And suddenly this guy makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627653
Lack of context certainly makes it hard to answer a question, but here the posted question was easily understood for anyone with substantial enough reading. You just had someone that clearly doesn't know enough Japanese answer a question, and you see that with his completely wrong answer. Context or not doesn't exclude a complete grammatical misunderstanding of the sentence.
I'd say 90% of people here are deluded beginners thinking they're helping in any form, and love to spout these kind of complaints when they in reality just can't answer the question at hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627809
Are you saying the anon you replied to was wrong in his explanation? Because what he said makes sense and I took it to heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627809
If you're talking about >>18627607 that's not an answer, they're asking if their understanding is even pointed in the right direction. Take a chill pill, this thread isn't and wasn't ever meant to be a dedicated "explain this pls" shit bin, and people can interact with questions in ways other than giving answers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627836
It makes sense to you since you're in that 90%, and you will continue to remain clueless as other clueless beginners answer misleading questions to enforce that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627876
so what does it mean
i'm >>18627607 and want to know

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627876
You're not helping your case by not offering your own interpretation. Prove you're not in the "90%". But I'm not here to argue about learning Japanese without actually trying to learn Japanese. I'm going to continue reading now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627508
やってみよう

できるまであらめないんだよ

やるまえに

あきらめていいことないよ

あのんはやるんだよ

[Anonymous No.]

i'm going back to thinking it's about one person fulfilling many other people's dreams instead of their own or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627900
>できるまであらめないんだよ

あきらめない？

[Anonymous No.]

it's sad that there isn't even one person who will explain this sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627508
>For example, that which is determined to be accomplished by the character of roughly ten people -- that fulfilling of that desire -- is best accomplished by a single person.
...like, 十人くらいの人間 is like the humanity (i.e. character/disposition or whatever) of a group of people so the 何か is kind of unclear. Maybe.
I don't know.
Be careful, I am the 90% and I have no idea what I'm talking about. I've only read one volume of manga in my life. I'm just having fun trying to understand. Please don't bully.
>>18627941
The guy who called us the 90% should answer, but he's just a big bully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627915
どうしてあきらめるんだ

もっとあつくなれよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18625649
I like this picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18620268
Go read eroge
Enjoy japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628163
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/7srr6o/studying_japanese_is_stressing_me_out_and_i_dont/

[Anonymous No.]

Emi Meyer - Passport

I'm looking for more music like this for listening practice.
Pleasant jazz/bossa nova, clear voice, not to fast or to slow and music doesn't jam the voice.
Apparently she isn't native so I've no idea if her accent/enunciation/whatever are right.

Her other albums appear to be in English.

[Anonymous No.]

足 is usually used for foot and 脚 for leg right?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this expression not あたまをふる？
What is is the nuance difference between あたま and かぶり？

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628611
Theoretically
but many jpns don't care just like with 早い　速い etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628621
Oh, and there is a third one as well.
Allright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628611
大体それで合ってます
ただし、「足」がlegの意味で使われることも多いよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628621
「頭」の訓読みは、基本的に「あたま」
これだけ

それ以外の訓読みは、慣用表現(idiomatic expression)で しか、（普通は）使用されません
ニュアンスの違いはよく分からない　特に感じないです

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628659
Thank you for the explanation.
I'll work on learning expressions as they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18628659
あ↓た↑ま↓head

あた↑ま↑reader

[Anonymous No.]

>>18627508
It means just one person is enough, thus 10 is excessive and thus it won't work out so well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18629008
No, this guy is right >>18627596
Don't confuse yourself

[Anonymous No.]

whhy