General Nutaku and DMM Thread 224

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Last thread: >>18524180

Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>English DMM Wiki
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Aigis_Wiki
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Osawari chat
https://discord.gg/n6uRd3n
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Kanpani-Girls
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

X-Overd:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?

Kamihime
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/
>Eng wiki
http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Kamihime_Project_Wikia

ShiroPro:
>Jp Wiki
http://scre.swiki.jp/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://shiroprore.wikia.com

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

[Anonymous No.]

バカじゃないの。

[Anonymous No.]

>Osiris is so cute
>Will probably be able to get her for my dark team
True Suffering.

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>>18570266
You can always save up for her HW version in case you don't feel like hoarding until a random rateup for her.

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>>18570287
HW?

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>>18570293
Halloween.
But that version isn't dark.

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>>18570300
Water and dark's time has passed.
2018 (2017) is wind/fire territory.
And then 2019(2018) will be light domination.

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>>18570309
>not thunder's

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>>18570309
Light already has Takeminakata as its "I win" button.
I want to see how they are going to top her.

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>>18570322
Light already has had Nike, Tishtrya and Takeminakata released.
Thunder's just had Justitia who's nowhere on their level.

Maybe it'll change, wind didn't start getting retarded shit until Cybele/Hraesvelgr which was like early April?

>>18570341
Takeminakata is either a giant "nerf me please" alert or a sign of massive powercreep to come, she's literally Yodarha, who sees zero use in content where his gimmick can't guarantee a fast win.
The problem is kamihime just not having this kind of content except for Guild Order.

So either she gets nerfed or the game stops having sort of a content drought during event downtimes.

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It begins.

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>>18570398
tempting

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>>18570358
Unless they begin to add weapons with different damage modifiers, kamihime damage output will never reach the same level as GBF, which makes Takeminakata's ability to shit out 1,2 million damage without any effort even more grating.
And she got released just right before the anniversary miracle ticket, so it's pretty clear that they are doing this on purpose.

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>>18570413
I was wondering if her plain damage nukes go through damage cuts but then I remembered literally the day she came out it was confirmed they did.

There go my hopes of getting a free miracle ticket this anniversary, I knew I was deluding myself already but I didn't want to face reality.

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>>18570398
can you still join that?

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>>18570398
I'll go play it, also registered.

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>>18570398
I pre-reg'ed but how do I access the closed beta?

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Have a plat CR fairy, was wondering who should get it. I don't have any amazing gacha plats aside from Clarice that are obvious.
What I have: Clarice, -1 Bashira, Spica, Victoria, -1 Leona, Fignelia, Siena, and almost all of the plat rogues (rogues aren't relevant, right?).

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>>18570635
Oh, I have a Dahlia too. Forgot about her.

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>>18570582
Yes and no. Closed beta just started and I think that's now locked off unless you signed up for it previously, but the selection gacha for the game's release is still fully accessible from the main page.

>>18570621
If you got in there should be a purple button on the standard gacha page where the closed beta signup button used to be, click that and it'll let you in.

The game seems to be a fairly standard wave-based RPG so far, think Brave Frontier if anyone ever played that. Interestingly units can go below the minimum star total from the pre-registration gacha - I saw a helper with a 4-star Peridot (you can see her in the bottom corner; I think the unit takes the place of one of yours if somebody bites it) and I already have a 3-star Aqua Aura from the gacha too. Seems like a lot of the money is going to come not from unit acquisition, but the game's equipment gacha and premium skins. There's already a swimsuit version of Diamond, a school uniform Ruby, and a military uniform Aqua Aura available, all of which I believe are supposed to unlock different H-scenes upon the game's release.

And prepare for absurd amounts of jiggle physics, I think Morion and Zircon are the only members of this team whose chests aren't constantly spasming.

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>>18570649
>purple button on the standard gacha page
Well I can't find it at all.

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>>18570649
>think Brave Frontier if anyone ever played that
This is one of the fastest I've walked away from a game

[Anonymous No.]

SOON™

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>>18570673
You probably didn't get in, sorry anon. If it helps any, all closed beta progress is being wiped in a week and won't be carried over when the game officially releases so you're not missing much.

>>18570682
pff, let's at least hope it's better than that crock of shit, but the core gameplay seems vaguely similar from the 10 minutes I've played so far. Iolite Link would probably be another good comparison, though this is a bit more on the real-time side of things.

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>>18570649
>>18570776
Regretting not building up Morion instead of one of the three 5*s I picked right about now. She looks really cute here and also the thing about units coming in at lower rarities than in the pre-reg gacha is throwing me.

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>>18570649
Apparently I failed to apply for the beta despite my best efforts. rip.

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>>18570830
Same here. Seriously thinking about throwing away one of my 6*s even at this late stage.

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>get wrecked in the "Only Token Users" stage
>"Joke's on you stage! I'm only 5 pulls away from a pity plat and I'll get that ballista girl everyone is talking about!"
>First pull is black, it's Diera.
>"There's my new token user, ha! Might as well get ballista girl."
>5th pull, black again, it's Orochihime.
Praise be to Aigis-sama. Also kinda happened the last time I was thinking of getting Teeny and got Amanda and Mireille instead. I guess Aigis is telling me that I'll never get Teeny and should just use Valentine's Rino. Also, is Diera the best candidate I have for Fes at the moment? I already have Sylseth and Ingrid at skill lvl 4 and I'm thinking of feeding that event plat to Sue once I get to her daily revival. The other girls don't seem like they'd give me a lot of value getting their skill level to 5 right now.

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>>18571069
Nip twitter says it's a lottery system, take that as you will. Invites are apparently being sent out in staggered waves and the game's pretty clearly a ghost town at the moment.

Incidentally, meet Carnelian, the game's third flat-chested loli design (after Morion and the unnamed girl from one of the official Twitter banners).

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>>18571185

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>>18571257
That's not flat

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>>18571266
Just as flat as the one above it.

Her pre-evo pic looks flatter too.

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>>18571140
Yes, Diera is the first unit you want to deploy so she should be priority.

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Got my first AW done!
Should I rush her AW2 alongside her skill awakening? I have what I think is a skill awakening fairy from Labyrinth so I might be able to do her skill AW now.

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>>18571841
Do it and enjoy not touching any other healers ever again.

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>>18571140
Your post pushed me to pull and I just got Diera in three pulls.

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>>18571561
Just fed her Fes and enjoying the up. I want to retire Katie and at the same time keep Diera at just lvl 1 at the moment since I want to focus on Sue to have a decent physical attacker. It sounds like an okay idea right?
>>18571960
Noice, she looks very cute shooting things I'm sure you'll love her too.

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>>18572109
I'll love her but I'll miss Amy at the same time. I've been using her for my farming team for the longest time.

The extra 2% gold from AW Diera can wait as you don't have too many leveled units. When you can easily clear most maps I'd focus entirely on drop rate up units.

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Rune Slayer gets some nice stats, even surprisingly high def. Too bad about the wet noodle HP

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>>18572245
I was sorta surprised by her def too. During a blind run, I placed her somewhere she'd get focused by black goblin archers eventually. I thought I'd let her do a bit more damage then withdraw her but she shrugged them arrows off pretty well.

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Got my first awakening done too.

This smug little shit has carried me as much as Electric Gandhi Prince. And she's still adorable for it.

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It seems that reaching 20m prereg gacha rolls unlocked something, but I can't quite tell what it is.

https://twitter.com/Jewepri_STAFF/status/972049232063614976

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>>18573120
Everyone with 6* will get gacha stones of quantity (total_rolls / total_people_with_six_star_prereg_unit)

[Anonymous No.]

Kamipro anniversary stream on the 24th, countdown login bonus from the 15th and on.

[Anonymous No.]

Another new Jewel Princess design, say hi to Black Opal.

Some observations about gameplay:
>Max level for units is 30, unless they're a 6* in which case the max level is 40.
>Leveling units ingame is done by spending gold and special consumable leveling stones that commonly drop from completed stages.
>Rarity evolution is possible when a unit reaches max level for that rarity, but requires spending a decent amount of evolution materials.
>A fully-leveled 6* has double or more the raw stats of a fully-leveled 5*.
>Gems from pre-registration will go fast - it's 3000 gems per 11-pull, or 1500 for the equipment gacha.
>SD sprites don't seem to change upon reaching 6*.
>Higher-ranked units have better stats, stronger skills, and slightly lower cooldown times.
>ALL units from the preregistration gacha have a base of 3*. The only units who have a base of 4* or more currently are the Spectra (Diamond, Ruby, etc.) teased in the trailer.
>Currently the only units that are attainable are the preregistration ones and the seven Spectra.

>There are five "colors" of units that are effectively classes. Greens are healers, yellows are tanks, purples seem to be all-rounders, blues are mages/supporters, and reds are pure DPS.
>All units have two activated abilities and a unique passive. Activating an ability will cause an animation to play before its effect takes place: during this time, from what it seems like, your own units' ATB gauges will be put on pause but the enemy's will continue to rise.
>Incidentally, Morion is a red unit and attacks by swinging her coffin at enemies or dropping it on them as a special attack. Her passive allows her a free attack at the beginning of every wave.
>Tincture (the twintailed blue-haired fairy/elf that appears in a lot of promotional art) is a noncombatant but allows use of the game's Solar Drive equivalent, which can be manually upgraded and customized over time with special consumables

>PvP confirmed, as well as FKG-style cooperative raids. I'm not sure what rewards either offer.
>There's usually 3 waves per map with between 1-3 enemies per wave, though that may change after earlygame.
>Like FKG and Aigis you can 3-star stages by clearing them under certain conditions, which at least early on seem to be "clear the stage successfully/don't let anyone die/clear the stage in 2 minutes or less."
>The special outfits released all cost 5000 gems per and seem to grant small stat boosts to the respective units.
>The game has its own physics engine for the SD models. Pearl's outfit in particular clips a lot through her legs, jiggle physics is absolutely ridiculous, units will occasionally T-pose in your inventory if you select too many too quickly, and there's noticeable cloth physics when units move.
>Currently there's a 67% chance to pull a 3-star, a 30% chance to pull a 4-star, and a 3% chance to pull a 5-star.
>Haven't found a specific purpose for dupe characters yet but they sell for ridiculous amounts of money.

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>>18573924
>PvP confirmed
Into the trash

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>>18573924
Details on rarity upgrades remind me of the OTHER brave frontier clone in DMM (Sorakana) and boy did that go awry

Love to need multiple of a limited paid-only 5* base to have a chance at beating hard content

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>>18573924
> ALL units from the preregistration gacha have a base of 3*. The only units who have a base of 4* or more currently are the Spectra (Diamond, Ruby, etc.) teased in the trailer.
> PvP confirmed
This is going to be another gochimusu, with jewing going out of control from day one.

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>>18574450
How quick do you think nutaku will be in contact with them for an english localization? They missed their chance last time because that garbage died in weeks but now they know exactly what's going to happen.

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>>18574512
Nutaku said several new DMM games are coming, maybe they already picked it and aim for simultaneous release.

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>>18573924
Sounds ptw. Guess I don't have to worry about it replacing fkg then.

>ALL units from the preregistration gacha have a base of 3*.
So the pre-reg gacha was deceptive and as a result a heap of players will start the game pissed off when they realise they could have just dick-picked and ignored the stars. That is stunningly stupid.

>Higher-ranked units have better stats, stronger skills, and slightly lower cooldown times.
Do you mean higher base rank or just after * upgrade? If the latter then how do base 4* and 3* compare if both are raised to the same rarity and level?

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> Oman-man
is this what nip kids call their vaginas? Never heard of it in my porn stash. Also, Nataku a cute.

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>>18575204
fucking hell now I can not see her dabbing with that pose

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>>18575178
>Do you mean higher base rank or just after * upgrade?
I was referring to star upgrades, but both are correct to a degree. A level 1 6* will have roughly double the stats of the same unit as a 3* as well as categorically better abilities/skills and the stats will only get better as they level due to varying growth rates.

As for different base ranks, pic related is a side-by-side comparison of the stats of 6* Larimar, Pearl, and Sapphire at level 40 (all purple units, so they have the same class). It's roughly a 20-30% difference in raw stats at an equivalent star rank - not accounting for affection bonuses and equipment, which narrows that gap significantly. The bigger difference is going to come from skills and abilities, since the Spectra seem to have more versatile and potent toolkits from what little I can read. My kanji is absolute trash though, so don't expect translations.

Equipment does provide pretty damn significant bonuses to offset this, and seem to also grant additional effects if you match the equipment with the character it's designed for. I got a 5* version of Rose Quartz's rapier and even without messing around with equipment fusion to level the thing, it's already giving the equipped unit around 150 attack, which at this stage of the game almost doubles the unit's attack power. (Though that could also be twisted the other way, if the Spectra's equipment give them better bonuses - don't know enough to say)

>>18574450
I'm still cautiously optimistic, if only for the fact that they've clearly tried to include avenues of revenue-making other than peddling an assembly line of powercreep characters. Outfits are probably going to be huge and I could easily see them making a killing off of gem sales during seasonal events due to that, and the equipment gacha is going to be another one. Even so, it's an in-house DMM game and those have always had somewhat mixed records of success. I really can't blame anyone for wanting to stay away. It's pretty well-made, extremely polished even in closed beta, and seems fun, but still, this is quite a few red flags to be seeing before the game's even launched.

PvP mode is definitely one of those red flags, but no real opinion here until I figure out more about it. I was able to get into it once before, but now it's soft-locking the client whenever I try to enter so either something broke with one of the closed beta updates or it's been temporarily disabled.

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Got the new SSR dark girl on kamihime DMM, she a cute

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>>18575530
Kali reminds of Takeminakata in the sense that she's just
not really fit for the current power state of the game

she's pretty clearly a Pride activator but not even the most complete dark grid has enough Pride to consider using her over a lot of the element's other attackers

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>>18575565
I am glad I don't care about power lvls in this game and I am only a collectionist, but thanks for the info dump

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Can I please pull a fucking black that isn't a guaranteed already? I'm nearly at my 3rd welfare and still haven't pulled one naturally.
I really want Diera, fuck you dev tea

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>>18575649
Buying the training support pack increases your RNG by 1.1x

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>>18575668
He already did

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>>18575668
I bought it when I started, anon.
My luck is fucking atrocious.

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Interesting.
In the game, my dolly costs 7 UP instead of 14. Bug?

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>>18576207
Debuting units have half deployment cost and 70% more ATK when used in their debuting events

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>>18576228
Ahh, I forgot about the new unit buff. It's been so long I've actually seen it in action.
It doesn't apply to her token though, right?

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Friede's first H scene is the most erotic blowjob in all of Aigis

[Anonymous No.]

W-why are all the doggos watching in Moltena's first scene? They look pretty angry too...

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>>18576504
She teaches them how to assert dominance by raping the Prince.

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Goddamn, mage prince can just facetank a tengu spear.
Welp, I guess this means I can blitz the eastern province maps now. Need to somehow find 56 more SC to get a welfare chance at Diera/Orochi. Should be doable.

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>>18578832
When I tried out Aegis I hated the way the game basically forces you to use prince at the start since he's one of your most powerful units. Sounds like dropping it was the right choice for me.

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Why is Horus' sprite kinda tan but her artwork pale?

>>18576504
Pets always end up watching. They probably needed to be let outside.

>>18578832
Most units can facetank one spear but there's usually so much other stuff going on that healers don't heal them to full so the next asshole with a spear kills them.

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>Main account goes over a year without a black
>New sub gets 2 in under 50SC
I don't know how to feel about this.

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>Jewel Princess PvP
Finally got a chance to test it. It's such a clusterfuck that P2W concerns are probably going straight out the window, literally anyone who can inflict paralysis/stun/freezing/petrification is god-tier because the latter two never wear off and you can keep all but one member of the enemy team on permanent lockdown at once.

In fact debilitating statuses in this game are kind of busted as shit in general, durations tend to be multiple times longer than comparable buffs/debuffs and there's a vanishingly small list of units who can cure them (basically just Amber, from what I've seen so far). In most cases once a unit of yours gets hit with stun/freeze they may as well be dead.

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>>18579457
>In most cases once a unit of yours gets hit with stun/freeze they may as well be dead.
Sounds exactly like the first generation of Pokemon, Frozen is just overpowered. In any case I pray they are aware of the issue and fix the game while it's still in beta.

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>>18576315
why?

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>>18579457
>In most cases once a unit of yours gets hit with stun/freeze they may as well be dead.
Marsh cave PTSD from NES/PS1 Final Fantasy

[Anonymous No.]

Embryon (Nutaku Kamihime union) has room for 5. Those of you interested post your ID or PM 1576389 ingame.

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>>18580408
>Didn't reach 6 million Union PP this event
ded union
ded game

[Anonymous No.]

おわかりいただけだろうか…

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>>18580901
>in a random union and surpassed that

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Any thoughts on Dolly yet?
I've stalled out in Labyrinth it seems, but I pulled her a few days ago - those ballistas look pretty potent, but I haven't tried her so far.

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>>18584382
Ohhh yes her two ballistas are veryyyy potent indeed.

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>>18580901
Jesus and I thought Oldmen was dead

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>>18580408
How may days of absences do you give before kicking a dude out? I go on and off with this game .

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>>18584989
It is though.

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>>18585070
but we hit 9 mil even with the dead-ness

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>>18585082
9 million guildwide?

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>>18585090
yep.

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>>18585092
Are you sure you didn't actually mean 90?

[Anonymous No.]

Thread? Dead
Aigis? Dead
Kamihime? Dead
FKG? Dead

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>>18586100
Its like 1 in the morning

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>>18586363
wasn't ware it was 1 in the morning for the past 24 hours

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>>18586478
There's always some timezone for which its 1 in the morning.

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>>18580901
I guess you mean 60.
And how is that bad? That's all you need for max rewards

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>>18586614
B-but you don't understand anon, Aigis is d-dying, see it's going to keel over within the next 2 weeks! J-just you wait and see!

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>>18586100
Well, if you'd like to talk about FKG, looks like the confirmations for the fifth Jabjab Maidoari (FKG-only fan convention, to be held on April 22) are starting to come in. There's plenty of Anemone, Wolfsbane, Saffron and Cattleya as expected, but it's great to see less appreciated girls like Alyssum, Dipladenia, Monotropastrum and Violet on the spotlight too, and there's even a great-looking Acacia/Robinia yuri book by Ibuki Ren (plus further yuri potential in the form of a loli knightmaster by Siluma-sensei). Official artists like TAKTO, Satou Satoru, Urozuki Akira, Naruse Mamoru, Myonko and Nakamura B-ta are also participating as usual, so it seems that it'll be a pretty nice event.

Here's a collage of entries, cobbled together from Twitter announcements - too bad most of these are unlikely to be scanned, but some artists make them available on Melonbooks, Toranoana etc. afterwards, and from there it should be easy to get them overseas. I for one am pretty interested in that TRPG book, it's a refreshing idea and FKG certainly has enough lore and backstory to make it work.

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>>18587623
If there's one thing I really want from that list, it's the loli Higanbana dakimakura.

https://twitter.com/sweetcrops2015/status/970793238935187456

Hopefully they'll put it up on their booth store like the other ones.

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>>18587657
>SweetCrops
Wait, isn't this the circle that initiated the collaborative "flower knights with glasses" artbook from a while ago? Between this and loli Higabana, their taste is impeccable.

I also like the fact that, even if you discount that book, there is a mountain of fanart featuring other flower knights (as in, not just Cymbidium and friends, but girls like Anemone, Serruria, Elderflower and Cosmos) wearing glasses, and just as many Photoshop edits to add glasses on their portraits. Surely these artists' glasses-love will reach FKG devs and convince them to do something about the lack of bespectacled girls in this game, right?

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> half a level per dupe

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>>18587913
Still much more reliable than praying for a 5* dupe. I get one only every 4 days.

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>>18587913
>>18588132
I actually get them quite often (4 opals today), except for peridot.

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>>18588132
got Aquamarine 20 days ago and she's still 5star
meanwhile I see Pearl (who I don't keep) almost every day.

>>18588277
How many levels does a 5star gain after it became 6 stars?

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>>18588132
I got my 5 to 6 muuuch faster than my chrysoberyl, despite second 5* starting much later.

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>>18587913
looks more like 0.6
I guess 50 duplicates for max level

[Anonymous No.]

>>18588313
+3.5 levels for every additional copy.

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>>18580901
Brain problems. You forgot an extra 0. No reason to farm more atm.
>>18585065
3 weeks will get you in trouble if you don't pull your weight during union events.

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>>18588375
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>Haven't seen a copy of Pearl or Turquoise for over a week.
>Got 1 Aquamarine ever
Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, so Idiom Girl is ending service already. Did anyone follow that game? Were they too greedy, or did they just fail to gain traction with the players?

The game only lasted four months, and its concept was pretty neat, so it's a bit of a shame to see all the art go to waste. I guess it's another title to add to that depressing closed games list on DMM's wiki page (you can find it at https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMM.com#サービス終了 - try and see how many you can recognize).

[Anonymous No.]

>Tries out Azalea's Mission since Card Flip is a pretty relaxing event
>First time trying to use the fastest Flower Knights from my usual team, fails
>Align by Fastest and mix in some of my usual, fails
>Align by Fastest and one Flower Knight from my usual team on each team, fails
>Just Align by Fastest, still fails
Okay, looks like I'm not getting Azalea for a while then.

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>>18589151
Oh stop. Don't make me cry. So many games.

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>>18589151
That's a lot of games.

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>>18588313
>>18588533
Been waiting for another Pearl for like two weeks now. All I get is Opal.

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>>18589179
Do you have any girls with the speed up ability? Edelweiss, Gaillardia, Belladonna and Catchfly will add +50 speed to your team, while Oncidium, Dipladenia, Calendula, Clover and Eryngium (which is pretty fitting, given her role as a messenger) have +100, and Anthurium, Inutade, Nightshade, Red Ginger, Haretail Grass and swimsuit Susuki get +150. Some of these girls don't have high base speed, so autosort might have missed them.

And huh, this is something big: I was looking over Eryngium's lines while checking her ability set, and it turns out that she has a childhood friend called Eryngii. She's something of a shut-in who likes dark places (and so contrasts with Eryngium, who prefers sunshine due to her flower meaning), but more importantly, she seems to be our first mushroom-based character, which is a complete surprise. Some mushrooms do have flower meanings, since these associations were first formed back when life was divided into vegetable, animal and mineral kingdoms, but I thought even non-seed plants would be unlikely in FKG. I wonder if she will remain as a non-flower knight like Jolokia?

Incidentally, this might be another yuri couple in the making, as eryngii/king oyster mushroom is named after its tendency to grow on the roots of eryngo plants. And of course, it goes without saying that a gloomy, mushroom-themed NEET ought to feature a certain long-awaited charm point.

>>18589276
It's the nature of browser games, I guess. We ought to be grateful for Aigis, FKG, Kamihime, Kanpani, Shiropro, Otogi Frontier and so on, it seems that long-term survival is rare at best in the modern DMM scene.

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>>18589481
Nope, although the welfare Knights are a good target to get with their Permanent Reissue Events. Also, definitely made me more aware how speedy my Nutaku team was when I had a few of the speed-up types.

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>>18589151
At this point, I feel like the market is just too competitive
You need a stable playerbase including whales just to keep it going. New games aren't able to fill in any niche or gain traction, as you said, and have to shut down

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>>18589675
Kamihime did a good job of inserting itself as a popular game, even with the plague of NTR early on. I believe a lot of these games fail due to low effort, being really jewy, or having boring or nonexistent gameplay.

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>>18589825
To be fair, didn't Kamihime come out while Granblue was recovering from the aftermath of monkeygate?

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>Was planning to use SC on stamina refreshes and finish stamp card later in the month
>Towa in rate-up
Fuck, if I got her I could finally use my black tickets. But there's no way I can reach the pity black either.

[Anonymous No.]

>fuck yeah 4 drops finally full cleared that shitty map
>this happens

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>>18590695
this is how JRPG villains are born

[Anonymous No.]

>AW fairies: 100 DC
>2AW fairies: 20 RC
>SAW fairies: free
explain this shit

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>>18590769
>charisma that I use to get DC isn't free but the one I use to get SAW fairies is

[Anonymous No.]

>>18590814
>1 run of crystal keeper G gives me 1/5th of an AW fairy
>1 run of SAW daily gives me 2~4 SAW fairies
nice job not explaining anything though

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>>18590769
Are we about to get one of those quality tirades from the autistic kid who doesn't play the game and talks about how impossibly difficult it is?

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>>18590855
are you seriously getting this upset over a minor criticism such as AW fairies being harder to get than the things you need to have AW units to even use

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>>18590876
I take it that's a yes.

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>>18590903
still not seeing an explanation

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>>18590906
The explanation is suck it up and grind those AWs during 1.5x

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>>18590909
already did, my only timegate is gold
but that's also not an explanation

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>>18590855
>difficult
You mean tedious. Aigis makes you do a bunch of dumb shit for no good reason, and another set of dumb shit that is explicitly designed to bleed off your SCs.

I whine about this all the time, but at the end of the day the game is fun and the characters are cute, so I guess it's alright.

>>18590769
It's probably because Aigis is an old game and isn't really willing to overhaul its core mechanics just to make itself a little bit sleeker. Maybe they initially wanted to gate the number of AWs a player could do, so they had it require an AW fairy plus a bunch of silvers, but they later decided that it was a bad idea and made SAW/2AW requirements easier.

One reason I like FKG so much is that they don't fall for this, clunky mechanics get much greater scrutiny over there. But the flip side is that Aigis maintenances consistently finish in time, while FKG breaks itself every other week.

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>>18590932
>Aigis makes you do a bunch of dumb shit for no good reason
Wow you just described videogames, clap for the retard for playing his first videogame.

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>>18590988
/vg/ is that way if you want to pointlessly shitpost about nothing

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the Aigis community so toxic and deflective?

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>>18590932
Yeah it is pretty tedious. I was really annoyed and assblasted about how slow ch/st regen is, how you can only play for like 5 minutes then you're done for the next ten hours and how awful it is to awaken stuff but after you get used to the game and get settled in, it stops being annoying and you start to appreciate and enjoy the game.

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One last update for you all on the Jewel Princess closed beta, since I've explored almost all of the relevant content.
>In total, there were 6 (maybe 8) new Jewel Princesses teased in the closed beta. Carnelian, Black Opal, Alexandrite, Citrine, Moonstone (who is of course a bunnygirl), and Rock Crystal. Two generic designs also appeared, unnamed students of Rock Crystal, that are likely to become Jewel Princesses later down the line as well. I've taken pictures and can dump them if anyone wants.
>There is a purpose for dupes. When a unit reaches 6*, their base level cap is still level 30. A dupe of 4* or higher can be fused into them to allow them to limit break their level cap by 2, meaning it takes 6 units total (including the original) to reach the final cap of 40. Fusing higher-rarity units decreases the raw gold cost.
>The difference between a level 30 6* and a level 40 6* is absurd, around 2.5x the stats on average.
>Safe to say unless you're a massive whale, investing heavily into any of the Spectra is probably a trap unless you get very lucky with dupe rolls.
>The game gives you a 4* Aqua Aura and Seraphinite just for completing the tutorial. If you already chose them as your picks in the preregistration gacha, you can eventually use them as LB fodder.

>As for the best 3* base units currently: Morganite, Tourmaline, Seraphinite, Peridot, Aquamarine, and Opal all seem ridiculously good.
>Morganite is a universal-type with good AoE and the passive ability to inflict freeze on all attacks she makes. More on that later.
>Tourmaline is a healer who has both an all-target heal and an all-target resurrect that restores all dead party members to life at ~35% HP.
>Seraphinite is another healer who has single-target heals and resurrects, but auto-revives once if she dies, which is fantastic considering how squishy healers are.
>Peridot is an attacker has only one activated ability instead of two, but it's a powerful single-target nuke with one of the shortest cooldowns in the game.
>Aquamarine and Opal are both universal-types with good AoE capabilities and some of the strongest nukes in the game, though said nukes have extremely long cooldowns.

>The other unmentioned prereg 5*s aren't quite as amazing. Pearl is yet another universal-type with some AoE paralysis capabilities, but she's terrible for single-target damage. Turquoise is an attacker but I've only run into her a few times in the PvP arena. Like Pearl, she has decent AoE capabilities but trades off defense and any status capabilities for more power.
>I've yet to find any units that flat-out suck. All are perfectly usable, even if not optimal. Aventurine is probably closest, as a healer with no revive/status cleanse capabilities.
>Stats in the beta are almost certainly placeholders (~80% of same-class/same-rarity units share 100% identical stat spreads) so take the stat comparisons I posted before with a grain of salt.
>Honorable mention to Apatite of being the only preregistration character who isn't included in the closed beta. Poor girl.

>Status will fuck you over. There's paralysis/stun (unit skips ~3-4 of their turns), freeze/petrification (unit skips ~8 turns while being untargetable and when they thaw take a sizable chunk of damage; they can only prematurely thaw if everyone else on their side of the field is also frozen/petrified), silence (unit is only capable of autoattacks for ~5 turns), and blindness (unit misses ~50% of their attacks for a very long period of time but somehow can still inflict statuses/debuffs even if they whiff). All of the above can and will screw you over horribly and attacks that can inflict them often have bizarrely high infliction rates for how potent their effects are.
>There's amulets you can equip to your units to grant them resistance/immunity to status effects but I don't think they're attainable in the beta.

>4* base units are a mixed bag. Most beta players seem to be pumping all their resources into a single Spectra if they're lucky enough to pull one, but this is inadvisable for non-whales due to LB mechanics.
>Opal and Aquamarine in particular are even more dangerous than 4*s in certain conditions thanks to their long-cooldown instagibbing nukes.
>Of the 4*s I've seen in the arena, only Sapphire (basically Morganite+ with just as much freeze) and Topaz (attacker who can inflict both stun and silence, which prevents the unit from activating abilities) are horrific to fight against and that's mostly because status is so ridiculous right now.
>PvP is sort of a joke with balance as it is. Offensive teams are one thing, but facing stallier teams can be a shitfest because killing enemies is totally meaningless unless you kill their Tourmaline (and sometimes Seraphinite) first, and the AI is really schizophrenic about who it decides to target.

Final impressions: pretty fun in spite of some hiccups. Probably going to jew out hard before crashing and burning. We'll see.

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>>18591147
>Moonstone (who is of course a bunnygirl)

Do you have a picture of her?

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>>18591147
Thanks a lot for the overview. Looks like this has the potential to be another mainstay in this thread, at least for a few weeks.

Guess I'll need to take the prereg more seriously, just sitting on some 5*s won't be enough when uncapping is that resource-intensive. Too bad I'll have to replace my (already invested) Sphene too, since her low rarity means that I can get enough dupes once the game opens.

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>>18591193
Here's a shittily made .jpg, for anyone who wants to see what the new units look like. Read from left to right in order: Alexandrite, Black Opal, Rock Crystal's unnamed students, Citrine, Moonstone, Rock Crystal, and Carnelian. Interestingly, no sign of the loli from the preregistration Twitter banner.

One thing I can't fault this game for is how consistent the artstyle of units is.

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>>18587623
With all the loli Lycoris I've been seeing around lately I hope the devs do a skin for her like Cattleya's some day.

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>>18587657
>>18591343
>post right under the one I'm replying to.
Embarrassing.

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>>18570242
HOW DO I PLAY FKG IN DMM WEBSITE ?!!!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!?1

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>>18591849
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Getting_Started

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>>18591323
>Transparent skirt

I though her more on par with Sunstone but her design is nice, I like it, Alexandrite looks great.

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F

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>>18593238
Happy anniversary!

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>>18593238
The fake yuri one? Good riddance.

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>>18593238
n-no..

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>>18593238
this surprised anons
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>>18593273
Use your words Squall.

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>>18593238
Invest in nutaku games, goyim!

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>Only Monster Slayers, Pirates, Merchants, Sailors, and Token units are allowed.
Well fuck, that doesn't leave much to work with.
Guess this is where it ends for me at the moment.

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Snowdrop, Heather, Firethorn and Pine receive this week's bloomed art. I can't be happier with Firethorn's dress, the only way they could've made it more obvious is if they added a wedding bouquet with a mix of her flowers and Apple's.

Speaking of which, are there any knights that wear each other's flowers? I know that Mimosa has oranges, but that's more of a visual pun for the cocktail.

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>>18593324
Yep. Those definitely look like Apple's flowers on her dress.

Makes me happy that I amped both of them.

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>>18593367
Firethorn flowers look nearly identical, so I'm not that sure about it, but I'm definitely going to believe so.

I mean, Ume and Sakura have their critical animations reference each other's skills and I've also taken that to be canon evidence that they're a couple.

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>>18593385
You can only see them at the bottom here and yeah, I guess they're similar enough to add some confusion.

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what would you guys suggest would be a good nutaku game for someone new?

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>>18593433
None. The general consensus is to start playing on DMM instead, Nutaku games are poorly managed and extremely stingy in comparison. They have a long track record of removing almost every F2P feature from their games and then acting like it's not their fault when they close, and the less said of their censorship the better.

As for the games themselves, Flower Knight Girl is a clicker that has little complexity but compensates with really well-thought out character designs and easily the most attentive dev team on DMM, Aigis is a tower defense game that has some archaic mechanics but thrives thanks to its fun gameplay and established player base, and Kamihime is a GBF clone with exceptional art and H-scenes that cover a good range of niche fetishes. Outside the big three, there's Kanpani Girls (turn-based RPG where you run a company in a sword & sorcery setting) and Shiro Project (tower defense with characters based on castles) as the standout non-R18 games, and promising new titles (like the recent Jewel Princess) sometimes show up too.

You may want to test each for a while and go with whichever you like most.

[Anonymous No.]

I mincosted my Uzume, Aisha, Totone and Katie. Now what?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh shit Ragnarok Catastrophes are out in nutaku kamipro

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>>18589151
>ごちそう娘と魔王の厨房　〜POWERED BY DEMON'SKITCHEN〜
I remember food girls mentioned here. The game lasted 3 months.

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>>18593304
>greentext
In short, only characters with guns are allowed.

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Welp, anon was right about resetting skills and slots.

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>>18593885
Cost comparison. The discount is pretty measly.

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>>18593324
>have been patiently awaiting another Heather/Firethorn/Snow Drop rate-up
>rate-up is replaced with yet another Anemone rate-up
MOTHERFUCKER

>>18593885
>>18593888
Yeah, that was me. I'm not particularly happy with FKG right now.

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>>18593885
>>18593888
On the other hand, though, rarity promoted rainbows actually have solid stats and abilities. Waterlily turns into a mini-Kerria (and is arguably as good as Red Ginger), while Anemone becomes a generic 3-target rainbow with dodge and a 2.2x multiplier on her skill (for comparison, Alstroemeria is stuck with the nerfed 2.0x).

Skills and slots get reset as expected, and the number of promotion stones needed for the process is high, but this should allow even free players to access crucial abilities like dodge, barrier, revival and 1.65x skill up. We also got another 20-stone discount banner, so storing up flower stones for these will probably be the ideal way to stock up for rarity promotion: About 930 flower stones under a discount banner will let you promote one "fresh" gold with no extra slots or skill levels.

Since you still get the actual contents of these rolls, this certainly isn't a bad deal. I got 320 already from the past three months' worth of rolls, and a free rainbow every 6 months sounds pretty good, though trading in D-medals for promotion stones is a terrible idea under the current rates.

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>>18593904
>>18593897
Be careful of the new gacha. It's 12% gold, no rainbows. Personally I would only throw stones at it if I want a specific gold.

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>>18593904
>930 flower stones under a discount banner will let you promote one "fresh" gold with no extra slots or skill levels.
>a free rainbow every 6 months sounds pretty good
363 pulls is almost 2 rainbows from the normal 0.5% gacha chance.

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>>18593904
>930 flower stones under a discount banner will let you promote one "fresh" gold with no extra slots or skill levels.
>a free rainbow every 6 months

Those 900 stones in the normal gacha is around 200 pulls which on average will give you a rainbow anyway from the usual 0.5% chance drop. Plus 400 of the crystals. Even better if we get another discount gacha at the 3.5 year anniversary.

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>>18593922
>12% gold
Huh, didn't notice at all. My bad, it's not worth it then. I think that 800k gacha from a while ago effectively had ~11% gold rates too, and it could be "rolled" with stamina nectar.

I guess I'll save up and wait for the return of an anniversary style "regular 11x gacha, but for 30 stones a pop" banner.

>>18593933
Well, now you get 3 rainbows for the same price, one of which is guaranteed. And this is if they decide to never gift promotion stones.

Could be better, but not bad at face value.

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>>18593904
Aconite looks decent too and her stats should be event-tier.

Of course that might just be because she won the poll. We probably can't relax until the first event girl that didn't win any categories in the contest is upgraded. Lavender maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

Incidentally a 0-stam bonus mission which spawned from the new main story map gave a single rainbow crystal as loot and a flower stone for completion. So there will be other sources of these things.

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>>18593922
>12% gold
Huh, didn't notice at all. My bad, it's not worth it then. I think that 800k gacha from a while ago effectively had ~11% gold rates too, and it could be "rolled" with stamina nectar.

I guess I'll save up and wait for the return of an anniversary style "regular 11x gacha, but for 30 stones a pop" banner.

>>18593933
Well, now you get two rainbows for the same price, one of which is guaranteed. And this is if they decide to never gift promotion stones.

As you say, things also get better if we run into a genuine discount gacha along the lines of the 3rd anniversary one.

>>18593964
>20% debuff
That's a top-tier ability right there, and the skill is competitive with Kerria and Red Ginger too. If they continue like this, the high price for promotion would be justified.

As for Lavender, there's a chance that they will go for the "promotion costs less, but you get Alstroemeria-style half-rainbows instead" route. I hope they avoid that pitfall and make event girls into genuine rainbows instead.

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>>18593922
>12% gold
Huh, didn't notice at all. My bad, it's not worth it then. I think that 800k gacha from a while ago effectively had ~11% gold rates too, and it could be "rolled" with stamina nectar.

I guess I'll save up and wait for the return of an anniversary style "regular 11x gacha, but for 30 stones a pop" banner.

>>18593949
Well, now you get two rainbows for the same price, one of which is guaranteed. And this is if they decide to never gift promotion stones.

As you say, things also get better if we run into a genuine discount gacha along the lines of the 3rd anniversary one.

>>18593964
>20% debuff
That's a top-tier ability right there, and the skill is competitive with Kerria and Red Ginger too. If they continue like this, the high price for promotion would be more than justified.

As for Lavender, there's a chance that they will go for the "promotion costs less, but you get Alstroemeria-style half-rainbows instead" route. I hope they avoid that pitfall and make event girls into genuine rainbows instead.

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>>18593995
>"promotion costs less, but you get Alstroemeria-style half-rainbows instead" route. I hope they avoid that pitfall and make event girls into genuine rainbows instead.
Same. Oddly enough Aconite does seem to cost more to upgrade. 720 crystals at base instead of 680 ...

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>>18594000
And gets a reduced discount for skill/slots

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>>18594000
>>18594026
I want to be more optimistic about the fact that my favorite 5*s will eventually be getting proper 6* forms and buffs but I can't. Shit like this just makes me afraid that units who don't win popularity contests are going to end up with shitty stunted 6* forms like Alstroemeria that are still going to be far harder to slot up to their 5* equivalents, especially in the case of events.

Optics especially aren't good when the newest rate-up is shit even after a discount. And the lack of transparency doesn't help any of this either.

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>>18594053
>the newest rate-up is shit even after a discount
It's a pretty damn awesome gacha if you want more Suiren or Anememe.

Look on the bright side. It will be funny as hell if Alstromeria is still the only fake rainbow in existence after all the other girls and even 2*s get proper rainbow upgrades.

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>>18594053
I'm fairly optimistic, actually, because Wolfsbane being both expensive and high-tier as a rainbow probably means they're going for an "event girls are costly to promote, but function as proper rainbows in return" approach rather than a repeat of Alstroemeria (who wasn't received all that well). Them messing up new systems is a regular occurrence too, I'd wait a few days for some apology stones and potential readjustments to promotion mechanics.

My biggest worry is whether they will regularly gift promotion stones or leave them relatively out-of-reach like rainbow medals. If the former, even teams that require full dedication to specific rainbows (like debuff and solar drive parties) should be within most players' reach. If the latter possibility is the case, however, promoting a gold will be a very major investment and require a lot of thought.

That said, what kind of ability sets would you want your favorite golds to have? I'd like Cymbidium to keep relatively low stats as a rainbow (Fritillary/Lycoris tier, maybe?), but with her unique ability extended to the first two turns.

>>18594062
I think the problem here is that golds have become too easy to obtain, so new banners have no appeal if they don't offer some hope for a rainbow. The anniversary discount is also fresh on everyone's minds, so this new banner feels like a knock-off of that at best.

But FKG is nothing if not accommodating of its players, so if enough players ask for proper discounts, we'll probably end up getting some. The anon above mentioned 3.5th anniversary as a potential date, which sounds feasible.

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>>18594095
>My biggest worry is whether they will regularly gift promotion stones or leave them relatively out-of-reach like rainbow medals.
Their problem is that allowing everyone to get rainbows through other means makes the gacha less attractive and might reduce their revenue. We have three sources of crystals so far and all are in very low quantities so every indication is that it will be the latter. Although not so extremely rare as rainbow medals of course.

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>>18594212
Well yeah, they need to make money somehow too. I'd be fine with that kind of distribution, especially since the current sources of promotion stones are already fairly generous.

Also, now that full level 80 statlines have appeared, it seems that all three girls are actually on par with full-strength gacha rainbows (in fact, they're some of the better rainbows around). "Heavy investment, but also great returns" seems to be the theme when it comes to this mechanic.

[Anonymous No.]

oh boy

[Anonymous No.]

Jp Kamihime friends, what are these new drops from level 70 catastrophe raids gonna be used for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18594437
Check the shop

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>>18594436
Where is the problem?

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>>18594443

>120 drops to max out a weapon
whew lad

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>>18594455
That's assuming their price doesn't increase with every consecutive purchase.
Fuck this fucking gachage grind mentality. It makes all rewards utterly not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18594481
>That's assuming their price doesn't increase with every consecutive purchase.
It doesn't
>It makes all rewards utterly not worth it.
I'm sure a 30% ATK boost or a 40% AoE ATK/DEF debuff is not worth it, anon, but you do you

[Anonymous No.]

Does Metus AW passive boost Silvia?
If so, she just became even more of a must have.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got Kayou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18594597
Yes. All vampires are also undead.
>>18594626
Yes.
Why?

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>>18594658
How’s her sex scenes?

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>>18594661
Hot.

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>>18593534
Time to mincost your archers or melee rangeds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18594661
Amongst the hottest in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

So haven gets their own albert and joins forest/sword/shadow/rune/portal. What about dragon and blood?

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>>18594437
Wait Nutaku already has catastrophe raids?
And you got wind first instead of thunder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18595101
We just got it today, yes. Together with the Ikarus event

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>>18591147
Thanks for all the info, aside from the debuff thing I'm quite looking forward to it. Did they mention anything regarding the release date yet?

>>18591343
That'd be an insta-buy for the 5k ticket to get her.

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>>18593995
800k gacha was way lower than 11% gold rates. It was more like 1%, given the three or so golds I pulled in ~25 million.

Anyway, I don’t mind this kind of discounted gacha for golds-only, since I somehow already have most of the rainbows I want, but I’m quite sick of seeing Anemone at this point, and I already have a few Water Lily dupes too. Guess I should wait for a better spotlight.

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>>18595101
>Getting high debuft-resistant wind boss instead of easier thunder boss
RIP
Well at least you'll get the gist how they work until that gimmicky water catastrophe

[Anonymous No.]

woops
>>18595538 meant for >>18595109

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>>18595444
Oh sorry, I meant that as in "if you grinded gold boost to roll this gacha, you'd get 11 golds every 100 rolls' worth of flower stones". The actual rate is ~1%, but you get more attempts on a per-stone basis, and you can use stamina nectar as well.

It's true that the current gacha has an effective 20% rate on golds under the same logic, though, so it's not half bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>that drip
wew

[Anonymous No.]

>>18596013

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>>18595538
what does she do?

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>>18595538
>over half t he raid dead in less t han 15 minutes
>fucking ATHENA down for the count
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>18596521
HP 21,000,000
Charge 3
Normal Burst - Random 2 hit 3k dmg + Self Def up
Rage Burst - Single Target 12~14k dmg
Special Attack (During rage only) - Random 3 hit 3k dmg
Trigger I (First available action after rage) - AoE 3~4k dmg + 50% Water Resist down + Self 100% damage cut (5 hit)
Trigger II (First action after HP reaches 30% or less + Trigger I condition not met) - Random 2 hit 20k dmg

>>18596529
This is the first day when water catastrophe implemented. Everyone (including myself) still new to her mechanics. Athena is revived anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

How do the potted plants that spit out Skillblooms and Dressblooms work? Does it give you all the Skillblooms you need and then start giving you Dressblooms or is it purely random and it can give you 10 Skillblooms before giving you a single Dressbloom? Currently got 4 Skillsblooms from it for Anri and not sure if it will spit out Dressblooms next or if I have to max out her Skill before it starts doing so.

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>>18596692
Jesus, that's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

・キャラクターのLv、スキルLv、装備スロット数が「1」になる

　　これに伴い、装備スロット2～4の装備は解除されます。

　　また、レアリティ昇華後のキャラクターでは、
　　スキルLvの上昇、装備スロットの解放が、
　　「コダイバナの技花(虹)」「コダイバナの装花(虹)」のみで行えるものとなります。

　　同キャラクターや、同一スキルを持つキャラクター、
　　キャラクター専用の技花、装花では行えなくなります。

　　なお、好感度やアンプルゥ、育生アビリティの強化状況につきましては、
　　レアリティ昇華後も維持されます。


Ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>18596694
It's random.

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>>18596776
> need 600 rarity up crystals for gacha gold
> got only 288 for all rolls since november

[Anonymous No.]

At least their stats and abilities are on par with other gacha rainbows.

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>>18596840
I think the lvl 80 cap was a good move providing balance to free players. I have a load of rainbows but I'm running all my lvl 80s alongside them. This is why Flower Knight Girl is the one Nutacuck/DMM game I will play (and spend money on from time to time) for as long as it's around.

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>>18596864
??
I'm talking about rarity upgrade, new feature they released today.

[Anonymous No.]

My gold waifu hasn't even gotten bloomed art yet, and probably will never get 6-star upgrade, so meh.

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>>18596873
>I'm talking about rarity upgrade, new feature they released today.
My bad, nibba. That's on DMM?

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アブラナ昇華はよ

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>>18596881
Yes.
For every premium gacha roll you get 2 rainbow crystals. For 680 rainbow crystals you can turn 5* into 6*, but she will lose all skill and equipment slot upgrades.

[Anonymous No.]

Got 15 SC and going in for my pity black. Really hoping for Diera, wish me luck.

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>>18596888
Only 1200$ for one rainbow.

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>>18596776
What else could be done about that system, anyway? The other option (keeping skills/slots) would make it possible for people to permanently screw themselves over because they promoted their girls before maxing out their skills and slots under a lower rarity.

Under the current state of things, promoted characters get power parity with gacha rainbows and pay for it by retaining the limitations of gacha rainbows (difficulty of raising slots/skill). This is leagues better than the alternative of "everything can be promoted easily, but they only become Alstroemeria-tier".

>>18596916
A guaranteed rainbow every six months is nowhere near a bad deal, doubly so because this is on top of existing chances for rolling rainbows. It's not like you're buying the growth stones with your hard-earned cash, they come as extra.

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>>18596948
It seems like they are aiming to allow you to go from 2* to 6* with this too right? It kinda makes sense that they will reset it seeing how the lower rarity girls will easily be 5/5 with all slots opened.

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>The one map I get full drop on first run
>Something snuck by so have to rerun it anyway
At least it was easy.

>>18596903
Good luck anon.

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>>18596903
Not exactly what I was hoping for. I wanted a cutie with big tits and a small gun, not a disgusting washboard with a big gun.
Fuck me, guess I'm never getting Diera. White/silver hair with green or red eyes is one of my weaknesses too.

So, how bad is she?

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>>18596692
ok hold on raids will now get HP triggers on top of their RNG chance to use a special attack?
yikes

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>>18596981
Not as bad as your awful taste

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>>18593324
Gotta say that Heather's bloom h-scene was quite good, both art and her CV.

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>>18596967
Yeah, and it seems they'll require more stones because of that. The idea is probably "So everyone gets a statline comparable to gacha rainbows, but how much work should a player put in to turn a gacha gold into a rainbow? What about event girls? Strawberry and Purple Pansy?"

Speaking of which, I suppose these two artists on Pixiv/Twitter who really love Bistort and Amaryllis will be overjoyed once they get their promotions. 2*-4* girls being able to take their rightful places in top-end teams is the biggest draw of this new system to me.

>>18596981
Best unit of an outstanding class. Highlights of her kit include a massive range that gives her very flexible placement options, good multipliers on her skill and SAW, an AW passive that other blacks would be jealous of (10% attack to ranged classes on deployment - it even works on healers and the like), and an anti-demon specialty that is extremely useful in majin maps (combined with her slow attack speed, she's a hard counter to Furfur in particular). She also covers angels, which have traditionally included rather underwhelming enemies, but the recent introduction of divine beast advents and angel-filled endgame maps, as well as the looming possibility of the Prince army invading Heaven in a future story segment, means that she may be even more useful in the future.

I hope you'll learn to appreciate her looks, too. She wouldn't be a top pick to me, but she's cute alright.

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>>18596967
Event girls would also normally be maxed out.

Which brings up an interesting point: how do you max out an event girl who is upgraded to rainbow?

Currently you can get up to two event girl dupes which could presumably be upgraded to rainbow and fused for skills/slots but that still leaves you short an equip slot which would require a vanishingly rare rainbow dressbloom to unlock.

I guess doing all that is less difficult then praying for rainbow dupes from the gacha so maybe that's the plan.

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>>18597179
It says you can't use dupes to upgrade rainbowed girl, only blooms.

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>>18596999
Hey man, that hurts. I guess I'm okay with flat if it's done well - Rosel for example is pretty good.

>>18597093
Wait, her atrocious attack speed is actually beneficial? Now that's interesting. I'll be the first to admit I've been extremely lacking in the ranged department, but I'm not sure if she'll be more useful than say, Ashera. I guess I'll just have to try her out some more. That 10% is pretty nice, though, you're right.
I guess her base art is honestly fine, but her AW art is supremely disappointing.

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>>18597203
>Wait, her atrocious attack speed is actually beneficial?
Not always though, it depends on the situation. Ashera is easily the better of the two when it comes to taking out fliers and swarms, thanks to her fast attack speed, multi-target SAW and massive anti-flying bonus. However, Socie's strong-but-slow attack pattern is ideal for punching through high-defense enemies that archers would struggle against, and her attack so so insanely high that she actually does decent DPS against bosses.

Furfur is an edge case due to its thunder counter gimmick, which greatly punishes multi-shot skills against him (note though that these skills are still good to have on his stage, as they let you quickly take out the demon mages and swordsmen at higher levels). But Socie will also do fine against mid-defense enemies like dark knights, frenzied orc warriors and some of the lower-end golems, while erasing demons and angels off the face of the map.

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>>18597203
>Wait, her atrocious attack speed is actually beneficial?
Not always though, it depends on the situation. Ashera is easily the better of the two when it comes to taking out fliers and swarms, thanks to her fast attack speed, multi-target SAW and massive anti-flying bonus. However, Socie's strong-but-slow attack pattern is ideal for punching through high-defense enemies that archers would struggle against, and her attack is so insanely high that she actually does decent DPS against bosses.

Furfur is an edge case due to his thunder counter gimmick, which greatly punishes multi-shot skills against him (note though that these skills are still good to have on his stage, as they let you quickly take out the demon mages and swordsmen at higher levels). But Socie will also do fine against mid-defense enemies like dark knights, frenzied orc warriors and some of the lower-end golems, while erasing demons and angels off the face of the map.

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>>18595538
>Well at least you'll get the gist how they work
Auto-Battle

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>>18597093
She'd definitely be a top pick for me, she's great and cute. Her only weakness is her awkward first H-scene but everything else is good.

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>>18597460
heh.

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>>18595190
>Did they mention anything regarding the release date yet?
Closed beta test announcements say that the Jewel Princess beta is ending on 3/16, a week after it went live. No official word on the launch date itself but I have my doubts as to whether it'll be instantaneous. There's a lot of stuff that's pretty buggy/incomplete in the beta and I wouldn't be surprised if it takes them to the end of the month to implement and polish everything.

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>Only downside of Rinne's skill awakening is 50% physical evade drops to 30%
That trade-off isn't nearly as worrisome as other skill awakenings.
I'm still a bit of a ways away from doing her second awakening, but did anyone purposely pick her normal looking version over the flowery one?

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>>18597771
Don't think so. There's no reason whatsoever to go for that path, unless you really, really like its portrait.

The flower route offers more attack, which is always great on a healer, in addition to permanent invisibility, which is what makes Rinne truly broken. An extra target, +20 range and some more defensive stats can't even compare.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished my Rinne AW2, if I don't have any other ramp, is it worth AW/AW2ing Katie at all?
It's either her or I just rush my Ingrids AW2.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Phalanx 4 bugged or something
I've gotten full drops twice in a row

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>>18598123
Don't make me waste Stamina checking this.

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>>18597771
>>18597795
>+20 range
36 range with SAW. There are merits to both stealth and increased coverage, but it's very situational.

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>>18597795
>>18598171
I also have Kramer and Fiore for giving ranged attack immunity, which is why I'm even considering the higher range and extra heal target. Been considering range increase for a number of ranged units' second awakening but those are a ways off too.

Maybe I need to see the range differences too. JPs probably have a range comparison somewhere.

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>>18598267
There's a range comparison of sorts here.
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Stats_Guide#Range_.28.E5.B0.84.E7.A8.8B.29

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>>18598139
Do it faggot

[Anonymous No.]

3 spots left in Embryon.

[Anonymous No.]

What the hell, I didn't even know this existed. What are the drop rates for the black fairy on 7 stamina maps?

[Anonymous No.]

Should I save for Solomon or start working on Herc line? my current main element is fire with Acala/ Nataku/ Amon/ Agni with wind based team of Cu/ Titania/ Cronus/ Oberon as secondary.

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>>18598123
>Use my 14 stam on this
>Get 4 drops and both fairies on each run

You lied, this isnt full drops

[Anonymous No.]

Do more stages show up after this map with the elder troll? I don't think I can 3-star it so don't want to bother if it's not blocking off more stages.

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>>18594568
>hosting a raid 120 times
>a raid that requires 3 materials from other raids to host
>worth it

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>>18596013
LOLICEPT is on another level

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>>18596888
>For every premium gacha roll you get 2 rainbow crystals. For 680 rainbow crystals
Stopped reading there
But do enjoy your "free" rainbows, whale-kun, by all means

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>>18599154
join a union that organizes them then

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>>18599167
If you're not spending money for those gacha rolls in the first place then yes, they're literally free. They're also free in the sense that they are entirely in addition to the things we were doing before the update.

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>>18599154
Idea Cores can also be gotten from the gem gacha.
Just not on nutaku

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>>18596982
If my memories serve correct, she's the first enemy that the devs have applied HP trigger attack. You'll see more after her, specifically light and dark catastrophes, guild order, tower and accessories lv5 quests (only mid-boss Scylla though)
Also water catastrophe special attack is not RNG-based. She NEVER uses normal attack in rage mode and you gonna suffer more if she has that DEF buff up and you got struck by her Harpist Streak water resist down beforehand. Tl;dr your thunder team NEEDS Athena.

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>>18599535
>your thunder team NEEDS Athena.
I'm sitting on Athena and a number of top tier SSRs on DMM just waiting for the nutaku version to break the last straw of my patience.
Failing to get Rudra will probably be that straw.

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>>18597460
Nice one.
Economically speaking, it's best to host and score mvp. You'll get 2 regalia for each battle.
>>18594568
Actually regalia price increases after first 20 purchases. However, the price will reset monthly.

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>>18599545
You don't have to be embarassed if you're a no 100%eid virgin. Stat shows that there's only mere 0.6% base chance in getting one.
I have Manargrmr and my friend with mlb Thunderbird deals more damage than mine.

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>>18599545
I have Rudra and a decent water grid, but I still struggle to clear guild order, tower or tier 5 accessories since more than half of my water team is event SRs.
A team with top tier, good synergy SSR himes is more important than a 100% summon.

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>>18598640
Solomon is a qtpie but just start with Herc line. Solomon will get weapon rebalance on DMM soon and I still doubt if it will make non-waifufag using her.
>>18599665
You need both to have an outstanding team. Just focus on team building while collecting enough LUCK to get them summons.

[Anonymous No.]

>people keep hosting Cats in the middle of a RAID event
smart playerbase

[Anonymous No.]

>Taigong Wang event
>Behemoth Divine Beast event
So are they going to expand the chinese faction?

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>>18599797
Everybody wants the Chinese huh? Anyway, I don't mind if they expand a bit in that direction as long as the main faction stays as the clear dominant one.

[Anonymous No.]

Got 2 SSRs, 3 SRs during this fire rateup.
None of them fire element.

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>>18600111
want to trade? I've got 9 R weapons and 1 SR eid in my last roll'

Now remember why I quit this shit last year

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>>18596969
Fuck you, I'm at 20 runs for this map or something

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Oh, here's another nice catch from 2ch folks. Next set of rarity growth additions are hinted to be Saintpaulia, Alstroemeria and Cyclamen.

I guess we'll find out soon about how the promotion interacts with lower rarities, and how strong the resulting rainbows will be. If these also turn out to be gacha rainbow-tier, then this system will be a very good addition indeed.

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>>18599753
Well, Raid events are the easiest. When would you do it?

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>>18599797
Want even more unnecessary classes? Can't have enough boring Chinese whats-their-faces? Then you will love this new event girl, who is best described as "hermit, but also shares some of your units' damage like an inverse life linker"!

We should all be glad that they're splitting off hermits into new classes, as they were an overpopulated class with too many units already.

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>>18601467
>dissing on Fengshen Yanyi
>trashtalking Taigong Wang as a nobody
Dude, this literary work is huge in Japan. Even Yu Yu Hakusho is based off the original. You'd piss off a lot of nips for saying that.

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>>18601467
It's jiangshi but does AoE attack.

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>>18601467
>Can't have enough boring Chinese whats-their-faces?
You mean the ten heavenly saints, who are basically self-righteous assholes in the original work and in aigis. They're all later killed by Nezha(Nataku), Taigong Wang and friends.

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>>18601488
I'm okay with Nezha, who is enough Fengshen Yanyi for one game. But did we really need the whole hermit gang, who are literally copy/pasted from that book and indistinguishable from one another, except the one who will be recruited to the Prince army because she's a chick?

What are they going to do next, go full Suikoden and implement all 108 stars from Water Margin?

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>>18601508
>go full Suikoden and implement all 108 stars from Water Margin?
They haven't even finished Three Kingdoms yet, just Aisha (Zhuge Liang) and Shuuka (Zhou Yu). Let's not even begin on the Harry Potter series with Moldevort and fem-Harry.

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>>18601508
Not really. Nataku + Taigong Wang + Fa is fine enough, as they're the main protags. No need to go further on on the 24 secondary support characters.

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>>18601514
>Aisha (Zhuge Liang)
Is there any connection between the actual name Aisha and Zhuge Liang? I mean besides the 伏龍の軍師 and the iconography, why did they pick "Aisha"? I think it's also the name for the main character in Koihime Musou, although she's supposed to be Guan Yu IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there such a thing as too much true damage?
When do I reach that treshold?

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>>18602803
It's definitely a problem for high level content if you don't have fast non-magical damage, which is usually physical.

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>>18600807
>Alstroemeria
> tfw grass is gonna be stronger than "rainbow"

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>>18597021
I've actually been looking to pull her for a while. Does anyone know if we'll be getting a proper rate-up for the current bloom batch of Firethorn/Heather/Snow Drop? I can't recall them ever skipping one like this.

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>>18599797
I gladly give her my dick

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best map to farm bonboris for Metus on? I figure I might as well go for a CR or 2 on her as well.

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>>18603042
It's a bit sad. More people need Firethorn.

Best bet now is to hope she gets rainbow upgrade since that gacha gives you ~3x the efficiency.

[Anonymous No.]

I need a Priest Warrior.
Which of the four platinum Priest Warriors would be worth my time and resources?
I can't say I find any of them particular cute, so dickpicking kind of failed me.

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>>18604243
Lucia and Lucia only.

[Anonymous No.]

I HAVE THREE SSR HIMES
THREE (3)
IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE FUCKING HARD TO NOT GIVE ME A DUPE
GOD
FUCKING
DAMNIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT

[Anonymous No.]

>>18604592
You're obviously using the wrong strategy.

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>>18604627
The good news is my next two tickets got me Poseidon
The bad news is... I don't like Poseidon.
But I've been fucked over by this shitty gacha so much that I will raise her with all my love and gratitude

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>>18604644
Better get her summer version too or else

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>>18604644

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>>18604663
...how does it make money?

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>>18604682
You just buy skins and characters outright, either with DMM pts or in-game currency.

Or so I'm told. I can't actually play due to anti-gaijin lockout, which is funny since most of the interface is duel jp/eng labelled.

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>>18604715
It's not really an anti-Gaijin lock. It just checks the language of your browser/phone, so if you convert it to Japanese, you can play it without hassel.

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>>18604821
Well switching chrome to japanese didn't work. And it would be annoying as hell to play it that way even if it did.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, so they also made a chart showing how many flower stones you need to promote a character.

Looks like 5* girls will be reasonably easy to advance, especially if 40% discounts occur more often, they decide to gift promotion stones once in a while or you're willing to roll for dupes in their highlight gacha, since you'll get 682 flower stones in about 4-5 months. But the initial estimate of "two rainbows a year" seems to be correct in general, since a 2* will take 6-7 months' worth of stones even with 20-stone discount rolls, and promotion is best reserved for your absolute favorites rather than the first character you fancy.

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>>18605292
So even 2* will be promoted directly to rainbow? I've been told they will have to step through 2-5* first which would make the process insanely expensive and a display of true dedication for a non-whale to have something like a rainbow Strawberry.

A waifu literally two years in the making.

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>>18605400
It should be direct to rainbow, the process is explicitly about rainbow promotion.

Things should be especially interesting with the kits of lower-rarity girls, since you usually have an idea about what a 5* characters kit will be as a 6*. German Iris for example will probably be a solar drive specialist a la Broom, Dogwood and Ardisia, while Peperomia will be a Dendrobium-ish first turn burst type, but someone like Strawberry could go in virtually any direction. I'd be fine with anything as long as their general power is kept on par with gacha rainbows, though, which seems to be the point of this system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18604592
>1 draconic eye for spending 10
im scared now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18602803
Not enough true damage. Add more Kyonshees and the White Emperor if you don't mind being gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>Roll pity plat hoping for Shade
>Get Inari instead
That's okay, can't complain about a cute kitsune.
>Buy the legend summon from exchange for reasons
>Inari
T-Thanks. Was planning to finally use my black tickets too, one on Kayou no less, but now that dupe aversion is creeping back up again and I might end up waiting until I can do this month's fame roll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18605452
Feels like going from a bloomed 5* to rainbow doesn't seem like too much of a leap. But from weak-as-a-child 2* straight to 6*?

Those crystals are one hell of a drug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606127
>waiting until I can do this month's fame roll.
Did you miss some? I'm already at over 20k.

[Anonymous No.]

I dont know if I should be happy or if I should ask the heavens why did it have to be a dupe instead of something else

What should I do with the extra?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606387
Waiting for the Happy to be added.

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>>18606426
Feed it to the original for that extra equipment slot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606430
You must have lots of blacks to want that one fairy over an actual black. You do know the % of getting a black (unit or fairy) is fixed and adding the happy reduced the chance of getting an actual black unit massively, right?

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>>18605292
>>18605400
I like the idea of upgrading the rarity of units, that way everyone's waifu can be useful/ viable from the gameplay perspective. Aigis does this the wrong way, simply adding gold/platinum versions of weaker units as ADDITIONAL units, which end up being sub-par anyways and require you to rely on luck to get them.
What I don't like is how STUPIDLY much it relies on grinding/ materials.

I guess it's the Japanese thing of them not knowing how to balance for shit, so anything that doesn't require lottery-ticket luck requires grinding your ass off.
It's either RNG of farming. Pick your poison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606482
It's simply to preserve the rarity (and thus value) of gacha-level rainbows.

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>>18606443
Is that really worth it though?

I'm very new to the game and I kept getting told how rare rainbows are so I feel kind of weird/bad feeding one off like that.

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>>18606444
Yes, I would like to have a black completely finished off easily.

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>>18606503
If you want to increase your overall combat effectiveness of your teams then raise and bloom the extra. If you hate keeping dupes then fuse her.

I'm in the latter camp so it's probably a good thing I've never had to make that choice.

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>>18606503
Yes? I think so. I mean you could just raise another one. But I like to maximize girls, And that extra equipment slot means a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606503
There's really not much else you can do with dupes in FKG. You get jewels for fusing/selling alike.
It's not like Aigis where you have to choose between a chance at skill up/cost reduction and 400 RC.

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>>18606195
It's also a pretty cute system when you think about all these apprentice knights they introduced finally blooming into their full power. You could have Madagascar Periwinkle becoming a proper maid and gaining Waterlily's approval, for example, or Rape and Strawberry actually giving Ume and Sakura a hard time in a sparring session, or Red Ginger finding herself in a tough situation and Hibiscus/Anthurium putting aside their love rivalry to unlock their true power and save their cool onee-sama (followed by 3P, of course).

I wonder if the promotion process will actually figure into the story. I think the first set of LNs mention that rarity is a factor of how much the worldflowers like you, so you can be a veteran fighter and still be stuck as a 2*, or even never gain the worldflower blessing at all (there are a lot of loli rainbows because even the worldflowers are lolicons in the FKG setting).

>>18606503
I'd advise keeping her for now. You've already gotten the biggest consolation prize for rolling a dupe rainbow (50 rainbow crystals - once you get to 300, you can exchange these for any gacha rainbow), so 12000 bond crystals aren't too impressive by comparison. A second rainbow will also bring a lot of power to bear for a beginning team, and Wheat is particularly effective as an enabler for other units thanks to her burst damage-focused kit. Maxing out units isn't really resource-intensive in FKG either, especially after the key revamp announced for next week, so you aren't wasting much by raising a dupe.

That said, I'm jealous. Wheat is both very cute by herself, and generally pegged as the rival of a personal favorite in Mistletoe (as both girls are patissiers, though I don't think there are any lines for their interactions).

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>>18606753
Bergamot valley's worldflower has developed impeccable taste recently. Something is corrupting it

The only way I can imagine it fitting in to the story is if the knight commanders have figured out some way of stealing harvesting magic mojo from the worldflowers.

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>>18606786
Wasn't Naae hinted to be a premature worldflower, hence her ability to purify Kodaibana? They could do something with that, where she can't quite turn girls into flower knights yet but can boost the abilities of existing knights. Does anyone have the latest LN, which deals with the Kodaibana reclamation efforts?

Speaking of which, I have high hopes for the new LN series too, since it's headed by one of the game's official scenario writers in Tsukimoto Hajime (who also wrote for the late Bukatsu Shoujo Battle, which was a fun game that died too early - it even had art by Wazakita and Shuz). I hope they manage to keep Arikawa Satoru as a regular artist as well, he obviously likes Wolfsbane a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

Nice. I hoped for Kiwi and got her.
And even beside that it's my best roll so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606928
If that's the 30-stone gacha keep in mind it has double the gold rate.
Still a nice roll though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606940
just a normal limited-priority gacha on N*taku

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606979
>Loquat
Dodged a bullet there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18606108
I do have WE and both chinese electric vampires actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>18607278
That just leaves Wendy and Rikka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18607326
Don't forget Nataku, Rakshasa, the other two demon summoners and Sabine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18605400
I already maxed ampy’d her in Nutaku, you know I’m going to do this in DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

Question time
From these threads here, I'm getting that Dodge seems to be the best ability for flower knights. Anything else to look out for or can I pick with my heart otherwise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18607964
Dodge is only truly exceptional on 6* girls, as there's a rainbow-only provoke ability that can be equipped to redirect all enemy attacks to a single girl (these girls are also preferentially targeted for AoE skills, so you can use two dodge/provoke rainbows to cheese out a two-target boss, for example). Since rainbows dodge at a 80% rate, they can make your entire team nearly immune to single-target attacks (at least for the first two turns), but since gold-rarity girls can't equip provoke, their dodge is only good for personal survival. Then again, dodge golds are also much more common, and they're also very useful in endgame maps because guts and dodge are the main means of survival against certain bosses. The rarity promotion system also means that, if you like a particular gold with dodge, you can invest ampies on her and store up on promotion crystals to get a truly top-tier rainbow once her upgrade is implemented.

Barrier, however, is probably the strongest ability released so far - the rainbow version has your entire team block the first attack against them, refreshes on each node, and even stacks with dodge and miss abilities, so your one-time immunity isn't used up when these abilities trigger. Dodge + barrier is amazing for stalling against certain superbosses that require it - the second Kodaibana map, for example, features a boss node where enemy defenses are greatly increased on the first turn, while the nightmarish Re: Sakura & Ume map (a good contender for the hardest stage currently in the game) likewise features bosses with damage reduction that is gradually lifted as time passes. Due to its power, however, barrier is a seldom-distributed ability: Habranthus, Wolfberry and Apricot are currently the only rainbows with it, while Apple-of-Sodom has a gold version with limited targets. Also similar (and powerful) is the revival ability that is currently unique to Easter Cactus (though we may have another resurrection-themed girl this Easter), which is somewhat less potent than barrier due to reviving only three girls and only working once, but can still enable some hail mary plays.

Beyond these standalone abilities, there are a couple that are decent enough on their own, but become amazing when stacked: Attack reduction was so powerful that it received one of the very few nerfs in the game's history, and a full rainbow debuff party is still one of the best boss-killing compositions in FKG. Similarly, solar drive abilities are unique in the game for stacking multiplicatively, meaning that a full SD-focused rainbow party can do a number on even endgame bosses. Lastly, there are certain rainbows that excel through a combination of their abilities: Kerria has amazing sustain and synergizes greatly with debuff teams thanks to her combination of dodge, HP-based attack increase and lifesteal skill, Dendrobium, Christmas Dusty Miller and Christmas Sarcandra are first turn burst specialists par excellence, rainbow Lantana has an extremely potent panel ability that buffs all your teams, Soapwort can substantially reduce enemy skill activations, and any girl with "1.65x skill activation on first turn" and "15% attack to party per pest" abilities is worth consideration as a support unit.

Lastly, you can (and probably should) ignore this entire wall of text and just go with whichever girls you like best, as FKG is not a difficult game and only a handful of challenge stages require careful teambuilding to clear (they don't reward anything special either). The charm of this game, at least to me, is its massive roster of well-designed characters, and any gameplay concerns should be secondary to enjoying the girls that you find to be cute.

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>>18603042
Looks like someone over at DMM heard you.

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>>18608183
I deleted my post, thinking how stupid I am, bothering people with questions that have been asked hundreds of times.
And now I get such an elaborate statement. Thank you very much, I'm really grateful.

>The charm of this game, at least to me, is its massive roaster of well-designed characters
Agreed. it's just whenever I see people posting about their troubles with bosses here, I'm torn again. Thanks for reminding me of the most important thing.

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>>18608446
I had a feeling that would be the case! I was planning on blowing my gems on the newest unit gacha if all else failed but I'm glad I waited.

No Firethorn/Snow Drop sadly, but what can you do.

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>>18608509
>it's just whenever I see people posting about their troubles with bosses here, I'm torn again
Oh, that's probably because only the super-tough challenge maps merit any kind of teambuilding discussion - nearly all other stages can be handled by a good set of bloomed golds (if even that), and most of them allow you to bring allies that can solo them with ease. In addition, stages such as Core and Re: Sakura & Ume are purely intended as bragging rights for whales with full-rainbow teams, comparable to majin 15 without goddess buffs in Aigis: Doing them is fully optional, with clear rewards that can easily be obtained elsewhere, and FKG devs were even nice enough to make an extra story for sealing the Nidhogg core so that players who couldn't finish the Core stage wouldn't feel that their game was incomplete.

I still think that taking it easy and enjoying the game's setting is the best way to go about for FKG - the 2ch blog (http://fkg.blog.jp/)) is a good place to follow for recaps of interesting discussions, and I also try to add my own dumb guesses and speculations in these threads. Speaking of which, despite the excitement and uncertainty around rarity growth mechanics, the most shocking new reveal is probably the fact that there's a mushroom knight in the setting now.

>>18608542
Congrats on the Heather, she usually gets ignored in favor of other girls but a level-headed elder sister who can hold her booze is cute too.

She's also responsible for starting the trend where brooms in the FKG world are completely unable to fly, while books, maces, wands, hammers, chain-linked sickles and rocket-powered spurge rabbits are perfectly fine means of air transportation.

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>>18606503
If you buy guaranteed rainbows for 5k points, you will have full rainbow team in no time and releasing extra equip slots is really worth it.

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>>18609024
>If you buy guaranteed rainbows for 5k points, you will have full rainbow team in no time

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>>18609150
The universe has been existing for about 13 000 000 000 years. What are 5 years in comparison to that?

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>>18609191
>The universe has been existing for about 13 000 000 000 years.
Is it just theory?

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>>18609191
>What are 5 years in comparison to that?
For starters, it's 1/5th of my total existence.

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>>18609360
stop playing gacha games

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>>18609368
W-why? Is there still hope for me?

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>>18608446
Man, the themed gachas have been such a crapshoot for me.

Shy Girl gave me miko Anemone dupes.
Weird Girl gave me German Iris dupes.
“Slender” Girl gave me jack-shit but I pulled Yukata Helio from a different rotation at the same time, and redeemed Bridal Hanamomo with my anniversary ticket.

Maybe I should stick with these reissue gachas. Those gave me Yomena, Tanabata Apple, and Swimsuit Suzuki.

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>>18606753
>Maxing out units isn't really resource-intensive in FKG either, especially after the key revamp announced for next week, so you aren't wasting much by raising a dupe.
Whats this key revamp? Are they going to make it easier to max out units?

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>>18609436
It's an update to these keys that you get from event stages to unlock fairy maps. Nobody really used these, since the unlocked maps still cost stamina and weren't that different from Wednesday/Sunday maps, so them getting buffed was expected for a long while (I think there was an official announcement to that effect too).

The revamp plans include making them cost 0 stamina, allowing the use of multiple keys to multiply your fairy rewards (like these special stages that you summon with event items), and letting you pick a specific color rather than splitting them as slashing/crushing and piercing/magic. Effectively, everyone with accumulated keys gets a big pile of fairies for free, and future events will keep giving you more. There will probably be some compensation for people who already used their keys as well.

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Happy White Day, everyone.
https://exhentai.org/g/1198380/05e6bf2a24/

[Anonymous No.]

All set! No more worrying about Soul Points now.

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How is the Necromancers ranked? I have Agnes and Metus, been wondering which one I should raise, or sit and wait for Memento??

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Is there a "How to raise Knights for retards" guides for FKG?

I've checked out the guide but I still cant quite understand what should I do to max out my first girls or when should I stop and move on to the next one so can someone explain it to me like I have brain problems?

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>>18610173
Unless you desperately need tokens, they're shit endgame-wise.

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>>18610173
Metus is the only one worth raising and even then she’s obsoleted.

However, Memento is the most adorable. Name another necromancer who makes chocolate skeletons for you.

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>>18610255
Third tab is for raising levels. Focus on getting your first gold as high as possible because that determines the max level of your helper teams.

At level 60 and again at level 70 you will have to evolve her in the fourth tab. Once she's hit level 80 she's maxed on levels. After that raising her is done through affection, equipment, ampules, dupes, and rarity upgrade. (in order of accessibility)

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>>18610305
Memento is the only one I want to raise and reward that cute bonemancer with a good boning but I missed her event. Metus can sit in my storage forever because she's ugly.

Also velty rerun when?

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>>18610317
Yeah but where do I get the stuff to raise her levels?

Its pretty straightforward in aigis where I just feed them fairies+armors and they're done until I want/can awaken them then I just feed them more armors combined with fairies and leave them at 50 forever but FKG seems to have more steps to this so I haven't really grasped the process I have to repeat to raise the girls even though people tell me its much easier than in aigis.

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>>18610342
>>18610255
Collect fairies/manyus, preferrably of the same type as the girl you want to raise for bonus xp. Once she's at 60, get the dragons she needs to evolve and dump more fairies in afterwards. At 70, you'll need birds and petals and an elixir to bloom her. Once all that's done you can give her ampys and skill blooms and the like.
Fairies can be gotten from the Sunday and Wednesday dailies (and from the key stages but you should wait til next week to do those), dragons from the Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday dailies, petals from the shop and nation missions, birds from the shop and some of the special mission, and elixirs from a different mission. A lot of these materials are also rewards in events, so it's always good to clear out everything or collect a bunch of event currency if you're able.

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>>18610255
>>18610317
Regarding levelling efficiency it's best to turn your copper XP fairies into bronze (pictured) by refining them in the office.
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Office#Refining
Then because levelling costs more gold at higher levels you use the bronze fairies until level 50+ then switch to gold fairies to finish her off. Obviously you want to use fairies of the same type as your girl since they give more xp.

>>18610342
Pretty much just play the game and they will come. Events in general, and especially the current event's card flip pages give you tons so that's a good place to start.
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/The_Great_Return-Sweets_Operation/Card_Flip
Clearing the daily missions is also great for fairies and ampules. The 3rd mission tab has fairy gathering missions but those are a waste of stamina for a new player. Also, as anon mentioned above the keys will give you a lot once the change is implemented next week.

Speaking of amps, because it's expensive to ampule a girl who is maxed on levels, another good cost-saving strategy is to only level your waifu using amps until she is 50+ then finish using gold fairies, evolve, and start with the amps again. It takes 2-3 months to gather enough tier-1 amps to max out a girl so this requires some patience.

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>>18610429
>Clearing the daily missions
Daily quests I mean.

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Am I getting banned for this

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>>18610572
I literally go to work dressed like that. It's safe.

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>>18610572
I really want this

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>>18610572
That's my son.

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>>18610698
Your son has nice vagina bones

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>>18609698
>and letting you pick a specific color rather than splitting them as slashing/crushing and piercing/magic.
I honestly don't understand why they haven't just done this already and combined the dragons into two dailies instead. You never need that many dragons, but you always need a ton of manyu. And as it stands, I have about 5-6x more yellow than I do purple.

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I can't speak Japanese but I love how Delphinium yells OH SHIT when she goes gathering

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>>18610861

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>>18611933
>hot and cold

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>>18611933
Speaking of whaleships...

This was unexpected.

And yet Nutaku never did put her up for sale, so I ended up buying her book for DMM.

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>expect to routinely log in 15 minutes ago
>realize daylight savings time shifted
>now has to wait an extra 45 minutes

I just want to go to bed

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New event girl in aigis is very cute

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I get Diera in three rolls and now later Sylvie in five rolls. Feels good man. I can still save my 110 SC.

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Just started FKG, and i'm wondering, is there a particularly good gold unit amongst the event permanent reprints? I started grinding one i picked with my dick, but that's probably not the best metagame method.

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Did she get a new aw2 art this patch or I just didn't notice?
My Mia got new sprite too but sadly no art

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>>18613308
Rino too cute.

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>>18613308
Yeah, they mentioned retroactively adding some of the AW2 art.

AW2
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/9b5f06fe96c9ed46ec5dd964fdf727f6
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/476b553e95ca3382c09fc405f44cadce
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/a94fd613e9040a07936fa85b38a9ab6c
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/7c7a22eca890d41b29475ffe9a6f86a5
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/6469246519eb1aaee621f22eb3007a45
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/d779f284f388234846018069f1db9396


New
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/3306508036f9561424cc67d69aeb3f29
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/e54ffc16cdf4b6ced9a1938763449ee3
http://assets.millennium-war.net/35e5858372cfcc1688fe40ef805363b6b0f7652f/b1bd1b143e3bcfcb00d16e6ba8999d00
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/ba03bf9e03940e468d0d67dc7a166ffc
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/52aa87a8aab1471890fd602b54a9950b

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>>18613317
Er, mixed in Jester with AW2.

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Unitia anon here, anyone else doing their prerolls during the 5* rate up?
Also with Jewpri being a bit of a let down I hope Unitia doesn't turn out to be the same

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>>18613307
>i picked with my dick, but that's probably not the best metagame method.
The amount of actually difficult content is so small that dick picking all the girls is totally fine. Even then, you'll want a bunch of rainbows for that.

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>>18613317
Mia is bugged then I imagine? Because for me she has new sprite but still her old art

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>>18613349
Try opening up her chara window and changing the art, I think yours is still set to AW1.

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>>18613354
You're right but it was on aw2, guess changing it still fixes it and doesn't let the new one to replace it automatically. Thanks for the help

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>>18613307
The first three girls, Lavender, Edelweiss, and Mountain Lily.

Though as >>18613345 mentioned, you won't really need event units that badly and you can dick-pick regardless. I personally just grabbed Lavender and my favorites out of the ones listed (Tachibana, Dipladenia, Holly, Sandersonia, and basically all the lolis), and called it a day.

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>>18613368
Actually nvm it was aw1 my brain is lagging, I'll off myself too many posts in this short time

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>>18610572
Someone post her hscenes, please.
I'm tempted to roll but I don't need another freaking jester.

[Anonymous No.]

I can finally 2AW my Mia. I don't like awakening units that don't have new art.

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>>18613380

http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/9ddfc71fcab63cb16d530599862fdb3d
http://assets.millennium-war.net/b62aee83b9a3537591d5216ed4f2b24b09b32762/c8a301b78c5d48522332ae8ab6720ffc

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>>18613386
>nopan
What a slutty clown.

Thanks! If possible, can you also post the hscene of the new event girl?

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>>18613369
10/10 taste

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Silver bow riders are never used as awakening material right?

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>>18613409
Since she's star rush type, won't be implemented in the system until the end of the event, sorry.

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how do I use Clarice? unlike Moltena doggos, the elementals have absolutely shit hp and defenses so having them targeted is out of question. But most of the maps don't feature enough "safe" melee slots

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>>18613317
None of the units that really need AW2 art IMO, sadly, but god DAMN that Chizuru is fucking awesome. Maximum sexykuuru.

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>>18613421
Nope.

>>18613445
She's a really damn good unit but not suitable for all situations. Usually you can make do with most maps. And yeah a tank helps.

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Why is this a thing, now that I think of it? Did we really need so many rangers?

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>>18613505
One more cute brown would be perfect.

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>>18613445
I go full token spam and either use Totono's mercs or a second elementaler to place meat shield tokens in front of hers.

Cenote and Loretta aren't bad for this, but the sapphire elementalist's wind tokens are disgustingly good at stalling enemies for Clarice to bombard them with, even with their 0 block.

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>>18613329
I struggle to remember to do my daily rolls because I'm at over 1200 and I'm not feeling too confident about winning anything.
Yesterday I did pull two 5* within 4 draws but I got my target girl months ago so it didn't really matter.

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>>18613505
We certainly need more units for each class, instead of new classes.

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>>18613505
Yes because while they all have the same basic mechanics their skills are different enough for them to have varied applications.

On that note: ranger AW2 when?

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Fucking hell, had to refill once and try like 20 times to clear this mission.

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>>18613369
Don't forget Geranium. She falls behind slightly in the stats department but makes up for it with the much-coveted skill rate up, which can be a lifesaver for new players who don't have a huge pool of them to draw off of.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Wonder Heart good for anything other than being really sexy and cute?

[Anonymous No.]

Before this thread falls off the catalog, there was one last update to the Jewel Princess closed beta before it shuts down in a few hours.

Say hi to the two newest teased units, Meteorite and Demantoid Garnet, respectively.

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>>18614405
hi

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New thread:
>>18614783