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Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>English DMM Wiki
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Aigis_Wiki
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Osawari chat
https://discord.gg/n6uRd3n
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Kanpani-Girls
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

X-Overd:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?

Kamihime
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/
>Eng wiki
http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Kamihime_Project_Wikia

ShiroPro:
>Jp Wiki
http://scre.swiki.jp/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://shiroprore.wikia.com

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>> No.18198749

Is the thread dying the final nail in the coffin and basically confirms Aigis will die by 2030?

>> No.18198816

>>18196699
>>I'm surprised Otogi is doing that well. It didn't seem that good or interesting when I gave it a try during release.

The power of NTR. All the NTRfags went there after Kamihime threw them under the bus.

Otogi also doesn't require a lot of grinding and they're pretty generous with free shit so it's easy to catch up.

>> No.18198954

The Jiang-shi girl isnt cute

>> No.18198975

>star trial
color me surprised

>> No.18198992

>>18198975
We knew it since before Xmas when they announced the upcoming girls.

>> No.18199292

Stupid star trial won't let me go past 12 stars with my weak team. I just wanted to have a decent double jiangshi deployment and giggle to myself.

>> No.18199295

What's the verdict for the jiangshi girl? What will be her H-scenes?

>> No.18199333

>>18198954
Just keep looking at her rack

>> No.18199388

So close yet so far
Rinne and Aix are pretty much a must have for this majin, not sure if I'll be able to clear lv10

>> No.18199389

>>18199333
But I like smaller and alive breasts

>> No.18199394
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>>18199388

>> No.18199475
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18199475

Pic related is Glasya's base stats. HP and ATK will scale to 1.7x at lv10. Both forms have a attack-all-in-range mod.

Shelt
http://assets.millennium-war.net/8163a6579bfaa08a0d54f8db16e49a863e927b5f/5f08c87f6409ab770e14e5763d76bd07
http://assets.millennium-war.net/8163a6579bfaa08a0d54f8db16e49a863e927b5f/4796af8eb91690400f784fe5d84d1726
Stats (HP, ATK, DEF):
Lv01 3385 420 638
Lv90 4284 494 866

Max cost: 33; Min cost: 30
Affection bonus(es): ATK +84; DEF +84

Skill: Perfect Guard
CD: 60
20s, 100% nullification and block becomes 5

AW Ability: 旋風剣
Attack speed is slightly reduced (74 -> 82 frames), can attack all nearby ground units (120 range)

>> No.18199494

>>18199475
>20s
RIP Wurm, Karma and Anatolia

>> No.18199525

>>18199494
>Karma and Anatolia
Maybe if it had an Initial Timer of 1, I learned the hard way with Barous that even 15 seconds can be an eternity for defensive skills to activate.

You'd have to pre-deploy her which isn't always possible or chain multiple stuns together to drop her safely.

>Wurm
She was RIP on release.

>> No.18199552
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18199552

Nevermind Aigis is a good goddess now.
Now let's see if I can snag me Altair too

>> No.18199574

>>18199475
Can you post the hscene too?

>> No.18199621
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18199621

>that grand knight pixel sprite
AHAHHAHAHHA

>> No.18199625
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18199625

I don't even know how to pronounce this.
The rate up SR, Mitra has a passive that boosts gems earned so she has that going for her, but both himes look kinda gimmicky right now

>> No.18199634

>>18199625
Tishtrya?

>> No.18199928

https://gamewith.jp/gamedb/article/show/86182
>PvP confirmed as the main focus
DOA confirmed

>> No.18199950
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18199950

This isn't Lapis!
At least I got it around 19 rolls to guaranteed black instead of going all the way.

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18199957

who is this mattress actress

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18199968

ded gaem?

>> No.18200008

>12 away from pity black
>alright, time to do pulls with new crystals
>first pull is dupe Rakshasa
Thanks, game

>> No.18200013

>need 5 samurai orbs
>run 3 times, only get 1 drop
thanks

>> No.18200019
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18200019

keep sending onion requests but no one wants me

>> No.18200029

>>18200019
Union events are live so you can't leave or join until it ends
Shoulda done it before

>> No.18200033

>>18200008
>6 more pulls were 4 silver 2 gold
>got mad, decided to roll 1k legend summon
>dupe Ramii
This is fucking ridiculous
Guess I'm back to saving up for 5 months to get enough crystals for a 150 stamp

>> No.18200036

>>18199968
I got 6000 :^)

>> No.18200064
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18200064

Who is she and what does she do?

>> No.18200066

>>18200064
Make heavies even more irrelevant

>> No.18200072
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>>18200064
She just made every tank obsolete.

>> No.18200119

>>18199295
>What will be her H-scenes?
Who knows, but previous jiangshi was pretty ordinary.
Prince has no reservations about what he fucks.

>> No.18200135

>>18199475
> 20s, 100% nullification and block becomes 5
This is just fucking ridiculous.

>> No.18200143

>>18200072
>5 block
>100% null
>aoe attacks
It's alright

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>>18200119
Who wouldn't fuck a Jiang-Shi?

>> No.18200184

>>18200170
> sumata with cold rock-hard flesh to loosen her up
I wouldn't.

>> No.18200201

>>18200184
fag

>> No.18200224

>>18200072
>They introduce this right after Chimerius ends
Cheeky cunts.

>> No.18200236

What's the point of making a strong team on kamihime? All event units are available via minimal grinding, so even if you're a piece of shit leech you get all the event h-scenes
is it for the hilariously low amount of extra jewels you get from doing harder maps?

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18200237

The Horror Won't End

>> No.18200246

>>18200237
This is relatively easy. Put AW2 valk on left lane as your first unit, then soldier, and you get enough UP to properly deal with other shit.

Still stuck on rats map here, will try to use my Kimerius lv10 team after I do some SAWing, out of money now.

>> No.18200252

>>18200236
> all the event h-scenes
Which is like maybe 5% of the total h scenes? Besides, SSRs help you cover for weakness in your grid.

>> No.18200258

What's consensus on AW2 pick for maid Sara?

>> No.18200266

>>18200236
What's the point of grinding in any game? To get stronger for harder content (tower/guild order), which in turns gets you even stronger (orichalcum from order unlocks the 4th break on SSR weapons for example).
If you want the scenes, you can look them up on panda and save yourself the grind.

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>>18200236
>What's the point of making a strong team on kamihime?
So you can leave it on auto and not have to worry about losing.

>> No.18200341

>>18200072
My only tank is Alicia. Should I try to get her? I do have Elyse to boost her defense when her skill is down.

>> No.18200344
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18200344

>>18194789
>She looks pretty good to me.
The problem about Peperomia is that I already have Pomegranate, who has strictly superior stats, exchanges the 75% chance of acting twice on the first turn with a less powerful variant that doesn't wear off, has one of the best activated skills of any 5* in the game, and an extra fourth ability that buffs the entire party's attack on the first turn. So she's arguably superior on the first turn (or inarguably if there's less than 3 enemies) and still perfectly usable afterwards, whereas Peperomia becomes a waste of a slot whose only use is a 10% attack boost.

I'm still probably picking Peperomia for the gold anniversary ticket choice because she's cute (my other possible choice would be Kiwi Fruit), but poor girl desperately needs a buff of some sort.

>> No.18200353

>>18200236
While accessory isn't a necessity, there's no fucking way you can clear tier 5 accessory quest without SSR hime

>> No.18200376

>>18200341
Yeah, she's literally the best tank. Her raw stat is really good. She even beats black heavies in raw stats.

Plus like the Onis and Fuuko, she attacks all enemies in her surroundings making her good at clearing mob rushes.

>> No.18200385

>>18199957
The Holy Bodhisattva of Golden Light... I think that's what her name is.

>> No.18200483

>>18200224
But doesn't Chimerius attack pierce the nullification? So she still can't tank him

>> No.18200504

>Chimerius
Please stop
Kimaris

>> No.18200508

>>18200504
>Kimaris, also known by the alternate names Cimeies, Cimejes and Cimeries

>> No.18200651

>>18200072
Man, just imagine black of this class. Powercreep is too much, devTea

>> No.18200654

>>18200504
Since the Japanese uses キメリエス, the best translation is Cimeries as per https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9 .
Had they used キマリス it would have been Kimaris, although no one can really say that Kimaris or any of the other options like >>18200508 are wrong since they ultimately refer to the same thing.
I can't find anything about a Chimerius version, but honestly they basically spelled stuff randomly back then so whatever.

>> No.18200666

>>18200483
Isn't it just very fast true damage? It bypasses def and magic def, but nullification and evasion should work? Never tried.

>> No.18200678

>>18199475
I don't know who thought this was a good idea for a plat unit. This is beyond broken even for blacks.

>>18199525
What was wrong with Wurm? Just the timer? Or her class in general? Because dragon soldier is a pretty terrible class, but the skill is great.

>>18200651
I would say not to worry because the sapphire just has a defense boost skill, albeit a strong one, but since they'll have to top this then I guess it's inevitable that the black will be the best tank in the game, bar none.

>> No.18200683

>>18200666
Nope.

>> No.18200974

How do you kill bosses in 20 seconds though
Which units are actually capable of outputting like 100k effective damage in 20 seconds

>> No.18201002

>>18200974
Have multiple units with high skill DPS & put Lapis in the middle of them

SAW Socie + Lapis is 10k damage per shot before defense, more if vs Demons/Angels. You can figure out how to deal 100k with that

>> No.18201013

>>18200666
He bypasses everything but immortality and atk cuts, unfortunately.

>>18199574
Sorry for late response, I turned off right after posting. Here you go.
http://assets.millennium-war.net/8163a6579bfaa08a0d54f8db16e49a863e927b5f/f973b14d8c3fcae98f265de0a89bebaa
http://assets.millennium-war.net/8163a6579bfaa08a0d54f8db16e49a863e927b5f/76c4e9ac31be59ee40cb23fa9adc7c6d

>> No.18201062

>>18199928
PVP focus, combined with Tecross game balance and bugs testing skills.
Yeah, a trainwreck in making.

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18201105

This is an error right, and she's like the other lilims, requiring 3 *different* elements?

>> No.18201137

Yep.

>> No.18201144

Thanks

>> No.18201148

No problem.

>> No.18201333

So uhh how are the rate ups on Aigis

I tossed 90 rocks in the Kibahime gacha and I got 3 plats (none of them were the knight) and the obligatory black from 33 summons was Ashera

>> No.18201380

>>18201333
Just do pick up or don't

>> No.18201409

>>18201333
I read somewhere that rate up units have 33% if there's only one character on rate up and 25% if there's two, so Kibahime would be a 25% on a black roll (same as pick up), and Shelt would be 33% on a plat roll.

I don't have a source for any of this though so don't quote me or trust me.

>> No.18201429

>>18200654
Chimelieth

>>18201333
Every plat I've rolled has been on rate-up. I can't comment on blacks, but it'll be the one you didn't want.

>> No.18201439

>>18201409
Too late, I already submitted this info in my dissertation.

>> No.18201466

>>18201409
I mean you either get em or you don't so it's 50% for every character.

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>>18201333
>Roll two plats while going for the grand knight
>Get Anita and this cutie

Rateups are mankind's biggest lie but i'm completely satisfied with this outcome.

>> No.18201539

>>18201501
>>18201333
>>18201409
Rate up only works if you don't like or want the unit on rate up. If you do want the unit on rate up, you'll get every unit except the one you want.

>> No.18201546

>>18201429
Damn, i have Lapis and if i want Wendy i'll get another Lapis...

>> No.18201586
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18201586

WARNING: Long post is long, and full of rants

Nuresuke Paradise turned 1 today.
To celebrate, they are giving out free daily 10+1 rolls for 2 weeks, and also having a special event where you can get items that you can trade for UR cards of your choice.

Anyway, the more important highlight of this event is that Nami (pic related, basically the navigator for this game) gets her own story (sort of) and her own SSR and UR cards (earlier she was restricted to SR and below, as opposed to all the other heroines who only appear on SSR and above).
(Un)fortunately, this also means that she is no longer pure - she finally gets her own H-scenes (again, something only reserved for the other heroines since Nami had no SSR/UR cards prior to this).
To put this in perspective, imagine NZN/Alyssa getting their own scenes.

...I'm feeling conflicted. I think I posted this here a while back but this game is kind of a spiritual successor to another (now-dead) (non-H) game, Water Girl.
The gameplay was all the same, but there is only one girl, Nami and the story is about (You), who has a crush on her, rescuing her from the monsters targeting her for some reason.

Nuresuke Paradise, however, is implied to take place in a different universe, and Nami comes in from the Water Girl universe to alert (You) about the monsters who are chasing after different girls (heroines) in your vicinity. (She has no real involvement in the story otherwise, and funnily enough she basically serves as a monster alarm.)
Until now, I used to think that Nami would only stay a navigator and be safe from all the lewd stuff. (She conveniently calls for a time-out from your universe whenever the story conversation begins shifting towards sex, for example.)
But no, she had to be corrupted. 2ch anons confirm that (if they can be trusted that is) it's not even a gag scene, it's full-on intercourse complete with nakadashi.

It really baffles me that the devs would actually pimp her out in a very probable NTR scenario.
A more accurate analogy would be if suppose Yakumo/Senko (from Shiropro) fucked the prince in Aigis.
Anyway, 2ch anons also say that the scenario turns out to have a 夢オチ; the whole scenario only played in your head

Now I'm happy that Nami has her own SSR/UR cards (and scenes) but a part of me wants to hope that this is all an elaborate ruse by 2ch.

Long post ends here

>> No.18201597

>>18201539
>Don't bother to read up on Shelt before rolling so I don't care about her
>Use my plat roll on her gacha because I don't really care for any of the other plats on rate up either
>Get her
>Go back to rolling for Lapis
>Get Wendy
I guess I just need to train myself into hating Lapis before she pops up in the gacha again

>> No.18201615

>>18201586
Are any of the H-scenes really "canon" anyways? Most DMM gacha protags are literal non-entities who exist only to stick their penis in things during H-scenes, so I've always treated them as what-ifs.

>> No.18201631

>Look up videos on how to do the majin
>Just use Fuuko and velty np because everyone has those

t-thanks japan, you're always the best.

>> No.18201642

>>18200246
I keep trying but nothing ever changes.
These fucking boars I swear to god

>> No.18201649

>>18201615
Unless they tell you otherwise, its canon. I think the only game where the h-scenes aren't canon is Idol Wars.

>> No.18201650

>>18201615
Well, in this game, the H-scenes encountered in story at least are canon, and are hinted at every now and then.
I'm just a bit mad at the devs that they would have the audacity to actually lewd Nami (even if hypothetically).

>> No.18201657

>>18201649
>scene 1 fantasy
>scene 2 fantasy
>scene 3 reality
This is what I remember it used to be.

>> No.18201658

>>18201642
You need strong ranged camp on right-top aisle.
Tank first boar with AW Prince, second should be dealt with ranged/Emperor, third with AW Prince or another tank.
I've seen video with some rogue dodge-tanking elephant, but I think I used Fuuko and B. Iris or something.

>> No.18201661

>>18201013
How the hell does that artist manage to become at least tolerable in H-scenes? Good editing?
Also that total lack of ass is abysmal.

>> No.18201672

>>18201661
He's an eroge illustrator, that's how.

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>>18200678
Her skill is fucking terrible, you can use Leona to virtually the same duration+effect unless you just have no healers for whatever reason, except it's not attached to a fucking 30 cost unit and Leona actually has the passive bonuses that help your team.

Add on the baffling SAW that gives her a ranged attack with no attack multiplier on a unit with low attack to begin with to smear shit in the wound, Wurm is an awful unit.

>Because dragon soldier is a pretty terrible class, but the skill is great.
Ignis, the only other actual dragon soldier since I don't count those gold male ones, is by and far a better unit, with a great skill that can be a replacement for Uzume for the free player. She's worse, yes, but she's an event unit so it makes sense for her to be worse than a gacha unit, and I actually found use for her in a couple of 11+ majin clears. Wurm is a gacha unit that manages to be worse than an event unit, it's a complete joke.

>>18201661
fuck you guys, moritan's one of my favorite illustrators. I gacha'd Luxe for dick reasons alone.

>> No.18201692

>>18201658
That's just fucking impossible too.
Everything starts rushing too early, I don't even get time to deploy prince, healers and ranged, it's got to be always only one of the three

>> No.18201725

>>18201586
So the (You) from Water Girl and the (You) from Nuresuke are two different characters? Why am I always too late to enjoy these NTR situations (RedCorruption/Sorakana/etc.). Every game I touch either stays pure or, worse, loses its NTR content over time.

>> No.18201726

>>18201692
AW2 valk generates UP like crazy and can hold left lane on her own.
Good UP soldier bumps that to needed levels.

Getting enough UP is key to clear this map, UP generators like AW2 valk are absolute need.

>> No.18201749

>>18201725
>Every game I touch either stays pure or, worse, loses its NTR content over time.
I really hope that you're not playing Otogi Frontier.

>> No.18201758

>>18201661
He's good with bodies, but the eye/face style is off. Just look at the dark priestess that's the current rerun. It's a complete mismatch.

>> No.18201763

>>18201749
That was kind of an exception, I got in and I managed to roll all of the higher rarity vanilla ones. Literally not a single NTR one.

>> No.18201792

>>18201725
Yeah. (You) kinda steal her from (You) of another universe.
(Note that this is all just an implication. The scene is pretty vanilla and there's no mention of her past experiences or any such thing. Then there's also the spoiler.)

>> No.18201868

>>18201501
>>18201539
Aigis is a fucking fraud. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a rate up in the two months I’ve been playing.

Meanwhile FKG gave me four of the same gold in a single spotlight while I was trying to shoot for the other gold. But it’s still a ~90% success rate there, at least.

>> No.18201879

>>18201868
Wait, I forgot Christmas Bernice. Twice.

That’s literally it, though.

>> No.18201983

Was there really any need for Grand Knights when we already had Royal Guards? Why are there so many classes and races and stuff with so few units each, it's frustrating.

>> No.18201997

http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Majin_Glasya-Labolas%27_Advent#Enemies
Enemy data is finished.
>One of the demons actually has 90 MR
Gee, I wonder why people don't use magic damage nowadays.

>> No.18202000

Well that came out of the blue. Red Corruption is shutting down as of today. RIP.
I played it back during the SenPro collab but the game didn't really appeal to me so I dropped it after a while. The gameplay mechanic is just way too obtuse.

Still, it's such a shame that it's closing down. This game is pretty unique in that you can genderbend your male units and fuck them.

>> No.18202004

>>18202000
>This game is pretty unique in that you can genderbend your male units and fuck them.
Except the trap.
Though I hear some of his holiday limiteds turn into girls anyways.

>> No.18202005

>>18201997
>Wanted to use ramii instead of fuuko to tank
>60 MR

Now I have no idea what to use for this dog since I dont have the broken event unit

>> No.18202019

>>18201997
Most of my units have true damage nowadays.

>> No.18202021

>>18202005
>Ramii
>tank
You were being retarded from the very beginning

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18202034

So now that we've had time, whats the best AW2 path for Cornelia and why?

>> No.18202036

>>18202000
There you fucking go. SEE. FUCKING HOLY SHIT.
I >>18201725 told you.
HERE I AM WAITING FOR ANOTHER NTR COLLAB/rerun.
AND IT FUCKING CLOSES. Fucking unreal.

>> No.18202044

>>18202021
I dont have many tanks and she has a lot of HP so I thought it'd might work. Its absolutely stupid how the event version of this class is miles better than the gacha version of it and used in every video ever made.

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>>18202036
>NTRfag gets cucked out of NTR content
How poetic.

>> No.18202049

>>18202036
Sounds like your life is a NTR scenario, why arent you glad about that?

>> No.18202057

>>18202044
Man, I still remember how this thread kept telling me that Fuuko is terrible and will be forgotten in a month.

>> No.18202058

>>18202046
>>18202049
I wonder if I can reach a level where I can actually fap to my own metaphorical NTR situation.

>> No.18202088

>>18202034
Obviously the path that makes her even tankier. She's not made for damage.

>> No.18202114

>>18202057
Nah, just one faggot, everyone know she is good

>> No.18202166

>>18201690
>you can use Leona to virtually the same duration+effect
75% chance to block an attack and 100% are not "virtually the same." Being guaranteed is, in its own right, an amazing attribute to the skill. There's no chance involved. Everyone is invincible for 10 seconds, period. She trivialized Karma the very second she came out because she could make any unit anywhere on the map unkillable for a similar duration.

You're right on the cost issue, though. That's why I say it's a terrible class. Dragon soldiers, all five of them because I'm not going to let you only acknowledge two for this, have insane cost with sub-par stats (for said cost) and only two block. They do have very notable skills, though. One of the golds gets a 1.7x increase to HP/attack/defense, the other is the only unit with Call for Reinforcements IV, Ignis has Uzume's time-tested skill, and Wurm has guaranteed map-wide invincibility for 10 seconds. Even the silver one has attack up 3/4 which is nice for leveling skills on gold+ units with the same skill.

>> No.18202169

>>18202044
What gets me is how Ramii's skill grounds her to do constant AoE
and does nothing else
skilling it up just saves you a couple seconds before you can activate it

meanwhile Fuuko gets a 2.3x defense boost and that's F A I R

>> No.18202177

>>18202169
I hope whoever made these two units gets shot.

Having great event units is nice but that's no reason to make the gacha equivalent a lot worse than a literal free unit.

>> No.18202178

>>18202166
Karma is still very usable as her invincibility is applicable against true damage.

I have Wurm & have found her incredibly useful to get through some rough moments, granting my ranged units just enough time to burst down some threats in peace.

>> No.18202209

>>18202166
>the other is the only unit with Call for Reinforcements IV
He's worthless still.
He needs -3 CR to actually make up for his cost on the first cast.

And also super limited like the other gold dragon soldier because Imperial Gacha has to have the worst implementation out of every limited gacha I've seen in any game.
Hell, last one even ended like a week before the due date featured on the banner, what's up with that?

>> No.18202256

>>18202209
>He's worthless still.
>He needs -3 CR to actually make up for his cost on the first cast.
You can't base a reusable skill on just the first use. He generates more UP over time than anyone with CfR3 as soon as you use it twice and the gap only widens after that.

But yeah, Imperial gacha exclusivity kinda makes it a moot point. There aren't a lot of people that even have him.

>Hell, last one even ended like a week before the due date featured on the banner, what's up with that?
I don't remember this, though. Was it the Wurm gacha?

>> No.18202677
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I'm already bored of this event.

>> No.18202773

>>18200072
So this girl is just better than cornelia?

>> No.18202802

>>18202773
After 30 seconds, for 20 seconds.

>> No.18202814

>>18202802
fucking aigis and its power creep I'm done with trying to keep up with this shitty game I hope it dies this year -_-

>> No.18202818

>>18202256
Sabein is probably the best example of devtea's efforts towards balance. High efficacy UP recovery at the cost of early game efficiency for those teams with really high UP demands. Too bad balance is the last thing that comes to mind when it comes to mobage, including aigis.

>> No.18202887

I love how I can kill Gluttony by making her heal herself to death while she is a zombie.
No reason to even use my shitty wind team.

>> No.18202946

>>18202169
They need to make her capable of flying again. Make the skill a toggle with a cooldown.
If a video is using Fuko, I usually only substitute Ramy if they don't land her. For example, in the flying clone harem map in the event.

>>18202177
I'm wondering if their plan is to release broken event units but leave a mediocre equivalent in the gacha, perhaps in response to poor event participation? But that doesn't make sense either since all of the recent ones since I started playing are never in videos as staples.

>> No.18203025

>>18202169
>>18202946
Ramy has magic attack.

>> No.18203113

I just reached rank 25 and I think I'm going to get Cornelia. But Sarah looks cute, is she good?
My main weak spots are tanks and low cost melee units.

>> No.18203238

>>18201439
>citing 4chan
APA has official style guidelines for citing tweets now, so clearly this is the logical next step.

>>18201983
Well, at least Grand Knights do something unique to themselves (during skill, all other units prioritize their attacks on whatever the GK is blocking). This new one is so obscenely good at tanking that the class ability is a distant afterthought, but they could've done something fancy with that gimmick (skill that cuts defense/MR of whatever you're blocking, maybe?)

I'd rather have them than gladiators, jiangshi, dark stalkers and every single youkai class out there.

>>18203113
Sarah is currently the best dodge tank in the game, her 30 seconds of immunity to physical damage makes her very useful for otherwise nigh-untankable bosses like Shuten Doji and Furfur. She also gives -10 cost to Prince and Emperor, which effectively lowers her base cost to 4 (or less if you CR her/go Battle Maid for her 2AW/deploy both Prince and Emperor after her), as well as 10% HP/attack/defense to these two and all princesses.

Her SAW, while often used for tanking, adds a further 1.5x attack/defense to her target classes, which gives her great synergy with mage Prince-fueled screen wipes. She's an incredible unit all around, and if you like her, there's nothing wrong with picking her, especially if you already have some higher-rarity princesses.

>> No.18203255

>>18203025
Worthless in high level content

>> No.18203266

>>18203255
>>18203025
Hopefully they'll buff her instead of leaving her as a mediocre gacha unit who's literally worse than a free one. That's just plain disgusting and retarded.

>> No.18203278

Anyone know what Farne's attack speed is as grand summoner? I guess the attack is the same but the wait time is increased, so I don't know what the time is from one attack to the next.

I used to get attack speed listings from gcwiki, but they moved to iwiki and iwiki is almost always down, so that was a really shitty move. Seesaa has a list but it's pretty incomplete and outdated.

>> No.18203284

>>18201983
Blame the slant eyed apes who voted for more classes.

>> No.18203302

>>18203284
I'll blame the devs for interpreting "more classes" as "every new idea needs to be its own class."

>> No.18203320 [DELETED] 

>>18203278
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Speed

It seems that only the cooldown changes, going from 61 frames from 141. EN wiki is actually very good for this kind of information, thanks to that one fellow who maintains it.

>>18203302
Amen to that. I still think that angels and swordmasters are the two best-designed classes in Aigis, since they do so many different things while revolving around the same general idea.

>> No.18203339

>>18203278
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Speed

It seems that only the cooldown changes, going from 61 frames to 141. EN wiki is actually very good for this kind of information, thanks to that one fellow who maintains it.

>>18203302
Amen to that. I still think that angels and swordmasters are the two best-designed classes in Aigis, since they do so many different things while revolving around the same general idea.

Thank goodness they decided to go with Mirno/Phonia (plus the tits angel from that one map) rather than making "angels, but with ranged damage!" and "angels, but with magic!" classes.

>> No.18203348

>>18203339
>tfw too brainlet to use Angels or Swordmasters
Every time I see a video using either I do my best to replicate the video not using either

>> No.18203355

>>18203339
Oh, nice. Didn't know the English wiki had gotten an attack speed page up. Thanks.

>> No.18203419

>Roll twice under Shelt banner and they're both Plats
Yay!
>It's Anita and Rischelte
Fuck you Aigis-sama!

>> No.18203432

>>18203113
Sarah is free cost (almost), best 30s physical tank in the game & drawn by godly artist. Also buffs the fuck outta Prince & co during those 30s.

Cornelia is fugly but a good tank.

Just roll for the new plat unit. She's an incredible tank similar to Cornelia, but on short duration.

>> No.18203469
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>>18203432
>Cornelia is fugly

Do you happen to be blind? Are your eyes just for decoration?

>> No.18203521

>>18203469
Way to prove him right

>> No.18203563

>>18203469
This artstyle reminds me of Raksasha too much and that shitty style where they try to make it look like bad caveman paintings to cover up their lack of talent to progress artistically in any way. It's one of those safe things even an idiot can do and it somehow makes them immune to criticism because it's "stylized" and that's how poorly drawn art made to expend minimal effort for maximum profit looked 20 years ago.

>> No.18203598

>>18203469
She just reminds me of Madoka or Homura

>> No.18203614
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>>18203563
How are these two even similar? What part of it exactly is overstylized? Your complaints are so off the mark that I wonder if we're really talking about the same unit here.

I can understand not liking artists like Huke that overstylize their art but there's nothing like that here that would make Cornelia radically different from other units like Socie, Silvia or the newest grand knight that looks like her little sister.

>> No.18203653

>>18203432
>>18203521
>>18203563
Oh, do come on now. That artist (Moritan?) may not be as amazing as Makirin, TOKIAME and yaman**, but his characters are drawn competently and have a girl-next-door kind of charm to them. I actually rolled this rate-up to get one of his girls, between Luxe and the new GK (but natch, got Kurama, Konoha and Mia instead).

Fairly sure he also did Aburana, Otomeyuri and Himeyuri for FKG, and they're really cute as well. I wouldn't mind more commissions from him in the least.

>> No.18203663

>>18203563
What in the fuck are you even talking about, anon?

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>>18203563
Hey artanon. Maybe if you stopped spewing buzzwords in an attempt to be comprehensible you'd find more people agreeing with you, but that'd require you to not be a raging fucking idiot first.

>> No.18203674

>>18203563
All anime styled character art is shit tier artistically. Honestly her art isn't terrible by anime style standards either as much as it is incredibly plain and in an age where people love to overdesign and go crazy I can get behind that.

>> No.18203685

>Ramii now does True Damage
Saved or nay?

>> No.18203687

I'd like a game to get at least 1 girl drawn by Misaki Kurehito.
Ragnastrike Angels doesn't count. That was a fucking mess.

>> No.18203695

>>18203685
If her SAW made her ignore MR then that would definitely save her so lets hope its a good one.

>> No.18203698

>>18203674
Incredibly plain is stuff by artists like Shibafu, stuff like that is completely normal and pretty nice.

>> No.18203701

Verdinath > Racua > Cornelia >>>> shit > Shelt

>> No.18203709

>>18203701
Solano's the only one I'd give the time of the day

>> No.18203712

>>18203698
I'm talking about anime character art here not drawings of potatoes. Please stay on topic!

>> No.18203713

>>18203653
He isn't bad, yeah. I really appreciate the outfit & bodies (the covered ones at least, ugh, Luxe is bad) but not his faces. Holy shit his faces are so bad I managed to do imitate one in a few strokes. As another anon said in a past thread; he draws shitty "uguu" faces.


The disparity between the faces & body just makes it worse. His style is fit for loli games like FKG maybe, but certainly not Aigis despite it's non-existent art consistency.

And Rakshasa is borderline acceptable to me. It's just the eyes.

>> No.18203729
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>>18203713
Clearly they should hire you instead so everyone looks like a mature war-hardened veteran.

Who'd ever want cute girls in a game about fucking cute girls anyway?

>> No.18203733

>>18203673
Sorry, forgot we have Kamihime/Nutaku kiddies here.

>> No.18203737
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>>18203713
Now that I think about it the pointy uguu faces remind me not of meguca but Jonouchi faces and now I will live the rest of my life unable to unsee this

>> No.18203764

>>18203713
>uguu faces
>loli and younger girls dont belong in aigis
There's a ton of loli/petite girls in aigis though?

To the point where I'm sure you could put an entire team viable for everything easily. Do you also get bothered about the existence of characters like b iris, aisha, teeny, miyabi and others?

>> No.18203773

>>18203687
If we're listing off unlikely wishes, Sasamori Tomoe please. Incredible talent and impeccable taste, he has the best of both worlds. Besides, Aigis needs to recant from the heathenry that is Battle Maid Irene and Phantasm Summoner Farne, and more glasses girls are always welcome on FKG.

And speaking of talent and taste, Yoshikazu Hamada for an even unlikelier pick. Nobody appreciates the human body quite as much as him, that guy draws virtually every body type and makes all of them look amazing. A scary person who will turn a dyed-in-the-wool lolicon into a hag lover and vice-versa.

>>18203713
Eh, the faces look fine to me.

But well, to each his own. At the end of the day, these are just games for fawning over cute girls, and if you don't like one character, there are hundreds of others to pick from.

>> No.18203782

>>18203563
The guy is a talentless hack who one day watched Madoka and decided he wanted to draw megucas, then tried to imitate the style and managed to somehow completely fuck up everything that makes Ume Aoki's art charming.

>> No.18203796

If I was going to complain about art then I'd start at Anatolia, Dorothea or sue instead of Cornelia.

Seriously, those three look like they could show up to haunt me in my nightmares.

>> No.18203802

>>18203796
Absolutely homo

>> No.18203815
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>>18203563
>>18203782
If you're going to samefag try to change your posting style. OR you could stop being a little faggot about it and learn to tolerate things you don't like instead of shitting up thread after thread with the same shit over and over again.

>> No.18203817

>>18203764
Not him, but none of those have uguu faces (except maybe Aisha but that's because her art is also terrible), and Cornelia etc. aren't even lolis. It's like a loli face mounted on a non-loli body. The others you listed are full, proper lolis. It somewhat reminds me of GochiUsa proportions. Fused with Madoka head style like the other anon noted.

>> No.18203819
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>>18203802
If not liking this makes me a homo then expect me to star in the next gachimuchi viral video.

Now this is a perfect example of what not to do when drawing for a game.

>> No.18203826

On the topic of bad art all I can say is Diera's AW art is fucking horrendous.

>> No.18203831
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>>18203802
>hating on brown gals

>> No.18203836

>>18203819
Good luck in your future boy next door feature, aniki

>> No.18203840

>>18203826
You mean the dog and the ox?

>> No.18203842

>>18203826
What if she's into bestiality?

>> No.18203852

>>18203840
Everything really.
Her face.
Her clothes.
Her breasts that look like footballs.
Her animals.
It's just one big fucking mess.

>> No.18203864

I have literally not noticed Dorothea's drills until today.
Thank you, homoanon, she just got better

>> No.18203875
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On the subject of art Baby Blue Eyes in FKG apparently has a snaggletooth. The wiki pictures don't even have a high enough resolution for it to be visible.

I don't understand why Japanese artists keep drawing this shit but I like it

>> No.18203891

>>18203875
>I don't understand why Japanese artists keep drawing this shit

Because its cute. Fangs are moe and add a charm point, like big dumb ahoges that look like they're alive.

>> No.18203902

>>18203831
>>18203836
Nepthys and Vivian are cute browns, tanned brown. Dorothea and Sue are less brown and more like the coal santa puts in your stocking when you've been a bad boy and that's what I cant get behind.

>> No.18203907

Let's talk about who has the best art instead! My vote goes to Sarah (Battle maid>Standard>AW>Armor)

>> No.18203915
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18203915

Speaking of art, Ryuoh has a fucked up right arm on both her regular and tanabata version so I wonder if this is intentional or just a regular fuckup

>> No.18203927

>>18203915
If I were her doctor I would be more concerned about the gigantomastia honestly.

>> No.18203940
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>>18203915
A fucked up spine, hip, left leg, and maybe left arm too from the looks of it - looks like the artist simply rushed the proportions or maybe he didn't care. It's probably not intentional.

>>18203927

>> No.18203946

>>18203940
>Fucked tits is okay because bigger is always better

That's just as bad as the rest.

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>>18203927
>>18203940
I mean yeah but it's the arm that's present in both.
She looks fine in H scenes at least

>> No.18203953

>>18203915
I-I don't think bodies work like that fellas.

>> No.18203954

>>18203907
Too much competition there, but based purely on art, I guess Asherah is my overall pick in Aigis (Selene > AW > base > Rapid Shooter) and Queen-of-the-Night in FKG (base > bloom > evolved).

>> No.18203963

>>18203949
I can see all these >>18203940 problems, but I can't see much wrong in her right arm.

>> No.18203983

>>18203907
Ashera, Sara, Kayou and Nadia. Are other artists even trying?

>> No.18203994

>>18203983
I really dont like Kayou's oversized tits.

They look bigger than her head in her h-scenes and tits being bigger than heads/torsos is where I draw the line.

>> No.18203997

>>18203983
>Pippin as the next revival
Yis

>> No.18204007

>>18203907
Honestly, I just like all of cyocyo's stuff.

>> No.18204013
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I wish I had a maid like Sara to love and protect.

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>>18204007
Forgot to add the pic again because v1 captcha bugged out and I had to close the quick reply.

>> No.18204039
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>>18204016
Scans never. Wish they'd let the guy do more characters, he likes the game, draws fanart of his own characters, why not just hire him for more?

>> No.18204044

>>18204016
Heavy 2AW will be Aigis' swansong

>> No.18204047
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>>18203907
I just like little/petite girls and I hope we get more of those. If the next event black is a cute small girl like Saval then I'm going to die of happiness.

Kanon was pretty cute too, I wanted to get her and Chloe from the daily revivals after starting this game but I havent really used them much.

>> No.18204114

>>18204047
Good taste, Kanon easily has the best navel in the game. I'm not really into more petite characters, but she's perfect.

>>18204039
Makirin's case is even weirder.

"Woooo, it's sure fun to draw dozens of Aigis characters in lingerie, even the girls everyone else has forgotten"
"Huh, the game wants another character from me? But she has to be a tengu so I can't put her in a lacy bra and panties? Ugh I'm too busy, here have bootleg Sophie instead."

>> No.18204138

>>18203729
I never said no to lolies, but his type of loli face is for loli focused games.

Aigis has it as a side dish. Best we got is probably NY lolibaba

>> No.18204145

>>18203737
Thank you, I'm stuck with this Jonouchi curse now

>> No.18204161

>>18203907
yaman** girls are competing for top spot. Wish he'd draw even more girls.

My top three are his three blacks.

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>>18204145
Embrace the dignity of the retarded

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>>18204044
I've been sitting on everything I need for Dina's AW2 for over a year. I'm getting pretty impatient.

>>18204039
Hell, he does fanart for characters he didn't even draw. Love the guy.

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>>18204161
Hell, pic related is what we get when he does others' blacks

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>>18204161
Yeah I could go hard for more Yaman's or Inayama's, it's a crime they won't hire the really nice artists but I wouldn't know the situation of commissioning them whether it's too much money or they're too busy. Thank goodness Spica got an AW2 art though, saved from being Bashira'd.

>>18204187
He's a fucking saint.

>>18204114
Yeah I don't quite get it either, get what you pay for I suppose.

>> No.18204414

>Set up core formation in near-perfect sync with stage progression
>Get to end phase of stage without a problem
>Get nervous about the last wave and place a auxillary ranged slot unit near spawn point to try to get extra damage in
>Unit gets instantly killed in 1-2 shots without doing any real damage and before I can react
>Core formation takes out the last wave while hardly taking any damage at all anyways

I fucking hate myself sometimes

>> No.18204922

Does anyone here never do any majin missions? I'd rather do them all when I have most of the op stuff so it's easier. It's more efficient and less of a hassle too.

>> No.18204984

>>18204922
I only do them if i feel like it and even then only up to 5 for easy black armor, I'm not too worried about trying to get high on it.

>> No.18205128

What level should I Ievel white emperor to? I just want him to be strong enough.

>> No.18205178

>>18205128
50+ prob be fine, his attack won't increase much, it's more his defense/hp that will

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>>18204047
KANON IS THE CUTEST

>> No.18206384

>already got 15 stars
>armor daily back to shit droprates
>done with the revival
>daily revival is 100% done with
my stamina

>> No.18206527
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18206527

Why is this sick filth allowed?

>> No.18206546

>>18206527
What? You don't wanna make babies?

>> No.18206547

>>18206527
who's the father?

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>>18206547

>> No.18206598

>>18206384
I wanted to post this.

>> No.18206738

>>18206384
every star collection event ever

>> No.18207280

Looks like the FKG 3 year anniversary broadcast will be on the 28th.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv310161553

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>>18207280
Excellent.

>> No.18207432

Went into Majin lvl5 blind, what could go wrong with Silvia and Lapis and ramped up Minerva? Well after that fail by sudden carpet bombing i needed a new plan. Maybe summon Nanaly and Rinne out of thin air and... yeah not gonna happen. And since my Fuuko is still lvl1 because fck that bitch i tried Leona. She covered the team for 10 seconds while Emperor, Minerva, Prince, Lei-Mai and Lapis went to town on the evil Demons. One true damage massacre later, i barely got 3 stars. Had to withdraw a few units. I love it when my own scrub tactics work out!

>> No.18207440

>>18207432
I went in lv5 blind with my youkai team and cleared it because everyone has bumload of hp
I don't think it'll work out later on though, gonna need some heavy aoe healing

>> No.18207783
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Does anyone else have issues fighting Gluttony?
Sometimes when it uses it's overdrive attack, I can't click any buttons anymore and have to F5

>> No.18207789

>>18207783
>it's
its

>> No.18207791
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>>18207440
>>18207432

https://youtu.be/TEizQ1dSvPE

>mfw the tengu
I guess this is powercreep for aigis, get specific unit for specific gimmick on majinn.

>> No.18207811
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18207811

All these upgrade materials and only two zero-star SR Eidolons which are already lvl 30.

>> No.18207821

>>18207811
just feed them to another element

>> No.18207828

>>18207821
guess I'll have to do that, it just feels like a waste.

>> No.18207916

how come people don't awaken their Fuuko in videos?

>> No.18207939

>>18207916
The extra 5 seconds to field her may make it or break it

>> No.18207956

>>18207916
she's plenty tough even without AW, and the +5 cost is annoying
I awakened her anyway

>> No.18207959

>>18207791
>having to use the full roster to clear majins
Fucking scrubs.
https://youtu.be/4m_0Nv0018g

>> No.18207969

>>18207959
>Chaos Knight cornelia

So is that route actually good? I thought people were saying it was bad?

>> No.18207977

>>18206384
Just do challenges bro

>> No.18207983

>>18207969
She's good. She deals almost 10k damage per hit against demons just by herself and prince.

>> No.18208004

I just got Sophie, which AW2 is better?

>> No.18208006

>>18207969
Both are viable. Here's another blue whale doing it also with a 5 units team, but the other 2AW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLFvWIRoQQ

>> No.18208007

>>18207983
>>18202088
So which one is better for her in the end?

>> No.18208043

>>18208007
There is nothing Cornelia can't tank paired with buffers\good healers (except for pure damage) so defensive route is a bit redundant and chaos knight deals serious damage paired with her passive\skill but 1 block might be problematic and you can never go wrong with making her even tankier (maybe they introduce some heavy physical hitters later)

>> No.18208055

>>18202166
Late response, but
>There's no chance involved. Everyone is invincible for 10 seconds, period.
The problem is there's very few situations where guaranteed is superior to 75%. You generally will have healers out anyway and the situations where you need your entire team invincible are not situations where you absolutely must have every single hit blocked, 75% is generally enough to mitigate the incoming damage sufficiently for them to keep up (see: Amon, there's no real benefit to 100% over 75%, your healers will just be twiddling their thumbs).

It's not at all an amazing attribute. You could use her as an extension to existing immortality skills, but there's ways to achieve similar amounts of invincibility/stun at a cheaper cost with units that actually do more than just the stupid gimmick.

>She trivialized Karma the very second she came out because she could make any unit anywhere on the map unkillable for a similar duration.
No, she didn't trivialize Karma. You have no idea what you're talking about. When you use immortal units, you don't need "any unit anywhere on the map" to be invincible, you need one unit on the map in one specific location to be invincible as long as possible, and Karma is still superior in this regard because her skill lasts 5 seconds longer and she costs a fraction of how much Wurm costs.

What has trivialized Karma is the swathes of stunning effects and other immortal units like Rakshasa and Melvina that produce similar effects while being infinitely less clunky to use and less prone to an accidental mistiming on the retreat costing a 3*.

>Dragon soldiers, all five of them because I'm not going to let you only acknowledge two for this
I'm only acknowledging two because the other three are throwaways, one meant for a stupid class change gimmick on Anya, one meant as gold rush filler, and one meant to shit up the imperial gacha. No one in their right mind would use any of the 3 in any serious capacity, and they're males which reduce their value even less because you don't even get any scenes from them.

>> No.18208059

>>18208006
That range on Aix SAW is insane actually, I might pull the trigger and SAW her.

>>18207959
All these green Rinnes make me kinda regret going other route, should've listened to my dick. Guess next 1.5 I max the copy I got.

>> No.18208131
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kek

>> No.18208309

>>18208131
Who the hell is making western Aigis comics?

>> No.18208368

>>18208131
soossia tälle?

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18208451

I'm not gonna get that Lilim, am I?

>> No.18208458

>>18208451
Union events get reissued like candy, you'll get her eventually

>> No.18208719

>>18208131
Is she worth awakening? I never deploy her due to 1 block and relatively high cost for a melee unit.

>> No.18208726

>>18208719
I have this same question. I have her but I havent used her much since I dont know exactly in what situation I'd need her or want her.

>> No.18208756

>>18208719
>>18208726
Meh unit, some good in phenex majin

>> No.18208808

>>18208726
She managed to one-shot the boss on the second pyramid stage of desert story, but I 2-starred that because someone else decided it was a fine time to die at the same time. She hasn't done it again whenever I go back to try to 3-star it.

She's nice for a swarm of trash but her cost is high enough that I can wait for a mage instead.

>> No.18208848

I recently realized I have a lot of dragon units that don't see a lot of action, for fun I decided to make a dragon-themed team. I'm honestly dissappointed with how weak it's turning out.

Has anyone else done this with success?
My biggest problem is lack of consistent ranged attacks. In fact I don't think any dragon has ranged physical attacks.

Dragon Archer when?

>> No.18208863

>>18208848
Please don't give them ideas before we get real AW2s and AWs please.

>> No.18208883

>>18208848
I too realized I have a lot of dragon units that don't see any action about an hour ago actually.
I sold them all.

>> No.18208893

>>18208883
Well that's one way of doing it. I hope you didn't sell any of the cute ones.

>> No.18209109

>>18208893
Sirbine is the cutest

>> No.18210442
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Hercules is very stronk.
Stack with many burst and she can already almost 600k dmg (700k is dmg cap). Very good for finishing mob/boss with 30-40%hp left.
Meabwhile svarog withh full stack since wave 1 can only deal around 300k+ dmg
p/s: this is included 100% eidolon + 40% eidolon + almost max skill lvl SSR+SR

>> No.18210527

>>18201105
Some fuckers confirmed that, unfortunately, that's a translation error from Nutaku.

Can you fucking imagine getting a Kirin for free?.

>> No.18210532

>>18208451
There's a re-issue for Gluttony like on April, when SSR Cybele gets released.

>> No.18210587

I'm a new Aegis player.
What unit should I get with the Black Exchange ticket?

>> No.18210595

>>18210587
Rakshasa and Sue

>> No.18210990
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Who should I level here? Also who are the garbage ones so I can vendor them.

>> No.18211032
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18211032

RIP Aigis and you can't use the excuse that there's no event.

>> No.18211051

>>18211032
>new girl from a shit artists brought the game down
Who would have thought

>> No.18211133

>>18211032
Its clearly nutakus fault then.

>> No.18211232

>>18210587
Depends, what do you need? Best general purpose units are: B. Iris, Aisha, Nanaly, Rinne, Altair, Lapis, Cornelia, Sarah, and Moltena.

>> No.18211310

>>18210990
I'd go for Elizabeth, Konoha and Itsuki, plus Palfy if you need a tank. There's only one shrine plat that is completely useless, so don't sell anyone for crystals.

Elizabeth does staggering amounts of damage with her skill/SAW, enough to use for Nanaly/Rion-style dancer burst tactics if you can catch the boss at close range, and that's without factoring in her bonus against the undead. Konoha is a melee slot witch with physical attacks, permanent invisibility, and a passive that lets her do the kind of damage a unit with her statline has no business doing. Itsuki is a big pile of stats that also has constant area damage and amazing attack multipliers, and Palfy pretends to be a mage armor but will be used for her great defensive stats/SAW, which let her tank both physical and magical attacks in many high-end stages.

Also good: Lydia (dedicated anti-swarm unit that shines in mass rush stages like Vepar and Shuten), Supra (archer with a bunch of extra perks, including AoE true damage), Racua (paralysis + physical tanking against bosses, on-spot removal for dangerous ranged enemies), Phonia (hits like a continental plate while her SAW is up, your call on whether you prefer Mirno's sniping or her burst damage).

Raise optionally: Jessica (melee spot mage, hits hard but can't tank too well), Fermi (cute and has a good kit, but Lucia delivers everything people use warpriests for), Lepur (good gimmick but can do her job at level 10), Sandy (consider if you use her target classes), Maple (consider if you use her target classes, 2AW path also gives her some very powerful healer trees).

>> No.18211344

>>18210990
>who are the garbage ones
Go kill yourself.

>> No.18211515

>>18211310
Thanks a lot. I didn't know Elizabeth was that powerful. I think I'll work on Elizabeth and Palfy then. Maybe Lidia or Supra next. I already have the black Tengu and druid so I'll probably pass on Itsuki and Maple. Think I'll just vendor only the jester unit as she seems awful.

>>18211344
Okay, sorry I meant valuable vendor fodder.

>> No.18211525

>>18211515
>Okay, sorry I meant valuable vendor fodder.
Why would you vendor any girl if that's your only copy?

>> No.18211797

>>18211525
I sold my single Daisy because she was fucking ugly

>> No.18211958

>>18210442
They actually managed to fix her yeah.

>> No.18212020

>>18211958
pretty sure the one in nutaku is still prebuff Herc who's constantly dispelling her own buffs with her nuke

>> No.18212031

>>18212020
Oh I didn't even open the image.

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What's the highest atk stat you can push in this game, I wonder? I don't think any of my units ever went beyond 4k, but I haven't tried enough

>> No.18212314

>>18212272
Socie easily hits 10k.

>> No.18212451

tfw no youkai maid

>> No.18212488

>missed a 3* clear on lv3 glasya by a shred of HP
Gonna have to field Leona early or AW/SAW Orochihime to neuter the shit out of that attack

>> No.18212519

Huh
Didn't notice how close we are to Eterna's revival.
And Metus/Lecia some time after, I started playing around their revivals but was too pleb to gather enough crystals for even a single copy

>> No.18212724

>>18211525
I sold Machina and recorded it for posterity.

>> No.18212796

>>18211515
Elizabeth is often glossed over in favor of Rion/Nanaly/Margeret, and she's sometimes limited by her range, but she really benefits from being an archer-alternative class (archers are so good at what they do that pirates, vampire hunters and even monster slayers get buffed all the time to raise them up to par). She already had great DPS, and then she got an additional bolt for her regular attack.

>>18212451
I was pleasantly surprised with Lina because I was sure they would make a new, completely unneeded zashikiwarashi class or something for the "monstergirl maid" concept. I'd be okay with youkai maid, but only if she's actually a maid.

>>18210990
>selling non-dupe girls
Capital offense

>>18211797
>hating brown girls
Nine kinship extermination-worthy offense

>>18212724
>hating glasses girls
Ravenloft-worthy offense

My uncle works for the Dark Powers, he confirmed that the Land of Mists is preparing a glasses nation where everyone wears (and adores) irremovable spectacles and the Darklord can't see or feel anything unless he wears a pair.

>> No.18212854

>>18211232
I was thinking of Altair for a cheap early game unit and Moltena for her token summons.
I'd like to pick Sarah since she is a cute maid but I don't really see the point of picking her as I don't have any princesses.

>> No.18212925

>>18212796
Daisy isn't brown.
She's a fucking monstruous alien

>> No.18212930

>>18212854
>I don't really see the point of picking her as I don't have any princesses.
But you do have a prince and an emperor

>> No.18212977

>>18212854
Nobody takes Sarah for the princess part anyway.
On her own she's the best physical tank with a fairly low cost to boot. The Prince and WE are also staple units for most teams which she also buffs. Although the Prince himself will be pretty shit until you get his awakening from the story since I assume you're too new and missed the mage prince event.

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How do I improve this?

>> No.18213115

>>18213072
With lolis

>> No.18213133

>>18213115
I wish I have them.

>> No.18213147

>>18213072
Competent healers

>> No.18213173

>>18213147
That's what I thought, too. I couldn't buy Chydis when she's in trading post, so I'm stuck with those 2 + NY Iris.

>> No.18213190

>>18213173
Hope they plan on making an event healer sometime soon instead of yet another super gimmicky class event unit.
Seriously what was the last "regular" class featured as an event unit, Sayo?

>> No.18213273

>>18213190
Define regular.
I thought Friede was straightforward enough of an event unit and saved me the trouble of raising a gunner or second mage.

>> No.18213289

>>18213273
Regular as in the silvers in Aigis' gacha.

>> No.18213316

>>18213289
In that case the last one was probably gold Calliope back in september.
Although I don't think RG's count as super gimmicky, even if they have no silver.

>> No.18213548

>>18212272
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Buffs_and_Debuffs#Buff_Stacking_and_Highest_Possible_Stats

Slightly out of date, mind you. I think Rischelte should reach higher numbers with her avenger mechanic.

>> No.18213622

>>18202000
>>18202004
Is the trap easily available?
I wanna see the H-scene before it's rip forever. no homo.

>> No.18213630

>>18213622
Yeah. He's a 3-star character.

>> No.18213706

>>18213548
how actually useful is steroid Momiji? I assume 10 sec is enough to kill anything with that kind of atk, granted she stays alive and the boss doesn't fly over her head like the current Majin

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>> No.18213728

>>18213715
Gayest post in this thread.
This is an achievement

>> No.18213802

>>18213715
Is this a fucking trap

>> No.18213808

>>18213802
>>18213715
Japan and their "Draw a girl, call it a guy" deserves to burn in every circle of hell

>> No.18213825

>>18213802
That's Red Corruption's infamous trap.

>> No.18213859
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Damn, I shouldn't have watched that harem episode.
Who needs such a move on a healer?

>> No.18213874

>>18213859
When you're gonna get hit by a multihit random or ST charge and you can afford to let go of your weakest DPS for someone else to sub in?
Not the last time it'll happen, Attal is another healer with cover, also locked behind her episodes.

>> No.18213946

>>18213874
You're right, thanks. It just bothers me, how it makes my first-dying character die firster when doing auto-battle.

>> No.18213975

Are the units affected by Curse Users instant death the same as those affected by raven's etc. skills? I assume it doesn't work on bosses and the likes.

>> No.18215177
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What the actual fuck...

>> No.18215197

>>18213859
Not to be "that guy", but her weapon is not called "Sacrificial Rod" for nothing...

>> No.18215558

>>18215177
"Glaive" is an absurd mistranslation. It's called "special sword" in Japanese.

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Welp. Same anon as >>18200344 , guess I'll be picking Kiwi Fruit as my anniversary 5* after all.

>> No.18215662

>>18212272
> no lapis
Are you even trying?

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Man, this counter makes me depressed, wtf I'm doing with my life.

>> No.18215956

>>18215949
>wtf I'm doing with my life
Deflowering cute girls

>> No.18217266

So /jp/, whats the difference between autoing Base Scramble II and Fiery Oasis in aigis?

>> No.18217290

Is there a tutorial for mortals that want to download FKG sound files? Followed one's instructions but I didn't understand a shit after he gave a python code.

>> No.18217394

>>18217266
Units in Oasis give more EXP per charisma spent, but it costs more gold to level with them since they're worth less each than the ones in BS2.

Oasis for pure EXP gain, BS2 to save gold.

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>>18217290
1) Open garden
2) Place jukebox
3) Open browser's console (Ctrl Shift J or F12), go to Network tab
4) Play song

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>>18217471
I want their lines actually, I get .har or .bin files doing it that way but no idea what to do with them next.

>> No.18218170

Man, fuck that lv9 majin

>> No.18218848

>>18207783
I have the same thing during every accessory mission raid boss. The game just randomly hardlocks and only a refresh helps.

>> No.18218900

>>18215558
What would you localize it as, then, because "special sword" sounds absolutely retarded in English.

>> No.18218990

>>18218900
Not him but I'd have used Short Sword and turned Sword into Broadsword

>> No.18219027

>>18218848
Gonna chalk it up to the browser being at fault.
Kamihime starts running like shit every other Chrome update, I had to refresh the page 5 times just to claim rewards from a daily because I kept getting stuck on loading loops

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>>18218990
It's funny how Krampus' Claw is a fucking "Glaive", DMM really dropped the ball there.

>> No.18219285

>>18219280
That being said, I want to do Krampus in the butt.

>> No.18219372

>>18219280
Really don't get why aren't gloves a weapon category.
Maybe with the introduction of master points they'll reclassify some weapons to work with a new soul line, but that sounds unlikely.

>> No.18219394

Excited to finally have a Geomancer that isn't a shitty gold.

>> No.18219455

>>18219394
Nevermind I didn't even check her skill and SAW and wasted 250 TC on her
At least she's fluffy

>> No.18219525

>>18218900
Since it's already copying Granblue, might as well copy Fate on top of that and call them Phantasms or something.

>> No.18219785

>>18217729
Oh, in that case:

1) Download IPtools
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/ipsniffer.html
2) Download .bin of the voice file
3) Open Iptools, go to Zlib Compressor
Tools -> System -> Compress (Zlib)
4) In the Decompress section, select .bin file for input and a directory to output. Name your output as a .mp3 or something

Test attempt:
https://my.mixtape.moe/adbldj.mp3

>> No.18219873

Is there a reliable way to get silver/gold dragon soldiers to awaken Eldora or am I fucked?

>> No.18219939

>>18219873
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Revivals#Silver_Unit_Farming_List

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>>18219785
>>18217729
Or use this
http://himeuta.org/showthread.php?9874

>> No.18220236

>>18218990
>Short Sword
>Broadsword
Too long to fit most likely.
I work in LQA for videogames and trust me, localizing names is a nightmare when there's character limits involved.
This goes double for Japanese.
"Glaive" is actually the best solution here in my opinion, especially since as
>>18219280
pointed out, there's various different weapon types in the category.

>> No.18220272

>>18220236
What about S.Sword?

>> No.18220309

>>18220272
As a rule of thumb, translators avoid shortening words and it's only acceptable as worst case scenario.
S. Sword could mean anything. Shitty Sword. Sexy Sword.
Naturally, the most common association will be short sword (though in this case "straight sword" comes to mind as well), but as I said, the general rule is to find something that "sounds" better, not reflects the source as literally as possible.

>> No.18220454

>>18220309
Could go the granblue way and have "Sword", "Sabre" and "Katana".

All three are swords, just different types of swords.

>> No.18220556

>>18220236
>Too long to fit most likely.
>I work in LQA for videogames and trust me, localizing names is a nightmare when there's character limits involved.
>This goes double for Japanese.
Given that they're images instead of text, I imagine you could just squish the text and put something longer in there. I don't usually play Kamihime, but I don't recall any other places where the name of the weapon class is used that character limits would be a problem.

If the only instance of length being an issue is an image, there really isn't an issue.

>> No.18220654

>>18220454
Maybe, just maybe, they intended glaive as "weapon" as it was used in old poetry, rather than the actual glaive, the pole weapon.
I think it's more likely they just randomly picked another weapon that sounded good though. You should be thankful it didn't end up as "blowpipe" or who knows what.

>> No.18220733
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18220733

First time I get something other than a gold from the fame gacha. How is she, besides being very cute?

>> No.18220741

>>18220733
Ordinary as Sailors are.
Even Ibuki is just "eh, okay"

>> No.18221141

>roll Sakuya
>already have a Sakuya
>should I even care about her?
>she's one of the plats that changes skill on CC
>AW passive is shitty 7% assassination
>Skill AW is just worse Saki
What a shitty unit
I can't think of any use for her at all

>> No.18221162

>>18221141
She's beautiful, but that's it

>> No.18221369

>>18221141
Sakuya's biggest competitor is her own sister, unfortunately. Her regular skill lets her hit three targets with 1.9x attack at 58 seconds per skill cycle, which isn't exactly weak, except Hibari has better offensive and defensive presence.

She's a solid pick for taking out Glasya-Labolas' imps, though. And >>18221162 is right too.

>>18213975
No, it's a different type. There are no chances involved with that kind of instant death, anything dies to it with no save.

>> No.18221391

>>18221369
>There are no chances involved with that kind of instant death, anything dies to it with no save.
So if an enemy has, say 50000 max HP and they're within Orochihime's massive range and she puts up her SAW, you effectively only have to deal 42500 damage to it to kill it?

>> No.18221453

>>18221391
If a enemy has 1m max health and you have a unit that kills at 10%, they would effectively only have 900k health as the last attack will do damage equal to 100k.

>> No.18221606

>>18207959
>maxed lapis does exactly enough damage to kill imps just before they reach the base

rigged

>> No.18221889

Ugh

What AW2 for Ashera

I don't use tacticians as I'm hard pressed for unit slots & ranged slots that aren't suicidal in content that matters so that 40% CDR looks juicy alongside the increased attackspeed

But that damn extra range & attack goes a long way too. What to do

>> No.18222571

Is it worth keeping dupe golds to use for awakening? CC'ing silvers every time is a pain.

>> No.18222677

>>18222571
gold dupes are worth 20 Rainbows

>> No.18222695

>>18222571
I was kinda grumbling about that too but then I remembered that silvers only need level 30 to CC, which is acceptable for awakening fodder.

>> No.18223308

Why is Maou so high in the rankings? That game is shit with shit gacha.

>> No.18224407

/jp/ please remember to make a new thread instead of letting it expire

>> No.18224571

>>18224407
/jp/ must be busy, this thread is rather short compared to recent threads.

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18224638

Late again, but let's hope that fellow gets Ivy this time around.

Also, one week remains for the popularity contest. Have you decided on whom to vote yet? Where do you think this year's contest will take place? Lotus Lake seems most likely to me, but people have been guessing Winter Rose as well.

>> No.18224656

>>18224638
>Cymbidium bloom art
Finally, been waiting on this one. For the popularity contests, I'll probably just vote for Lantana again.

>> No.18224727

new thread
>>18224724

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