Mahjong Thread

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Mahjong Thread Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:09:08 2017 No.18079726 [Reply] [Original]

Don't mess with Reimu. She'll fuck you up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg386VGErnI

https://pastebin.com/ML5gMMY9

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 03:31:03 2017 No.18080150

>>18078737
>>18078982
Can you even buy Japanese digital games on the Switch? I know it's region free, but how would you even buy those games, especially the first one being download exclusive

>>18079726
I only count 4 dora in the pic. Is Reimu cheating?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:28:54 2017 No.18080290 >>18080150 It's Touhou mahjong, everyone's cheating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 09:48:46 2017 No.18081319 File: 155 KB, 729x622, pointless tsumo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you're in 3rd place in oorasu and the last place player can't count and tsumos you into 2nd place while staying in last place himself Feels pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:09:30 2017 No.18082492 Ryanpeikou only being 3 han is pretty disappointing desu. Kinda feels like it's easier to get a yakuman

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:11:13 2017 No.18082500 >>18080150 You just put a JP region account on your Switch and you have full access to the JP Eshop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:25:12 2017 No.18082560 File: 122 KB, 1080x111, Idiot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm probably an idiot for doing this, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:48:22 2017 No.18082645 >>18082560 Depends on a whole lot of context. Post the whole screenshot or we can't tell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:17:16 2017 No.18082765 >>18082560 nah

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:42:08 2017 No.18082869 File: 1.21 MB, 1076x1008, NotAnIdiot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18082645 I just kinda had many (7) honor tiles in my starting hand. At least I didn't play into anyone. Kamicha even managed to get into tenpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:58:34 2017 No.18083535 >>18082869 Well did you win the hand? Nothing wrong with calls anon, calls are my best friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:07:33 2017 No.18083593 >>18083535 Unfortunately not. Shimocha drew the last haku and held onto it. Kamicha's tenpai was yakuless too, so I guess it worked out pretty well

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:19:03 2017 No.18083680 >>18082560 That's a haneman. The idiot is the one who deals into that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:44:04 2017 No.18083812

>>18082869
>>18083535
>>18083593
If he won or not doesn't matter, it's not the outcome that makes a choice right or wrong.

In my opinion it was probably justified. You got into tenpai pretty early so I guess your hand was looking rather good. Also if you didn't just draw the haku after calling the 6s you had a realistic chance for yakuman if you drew another haku. It's rarely a good idea to call 4 times but if your ahnd is quick AND valuable you can do so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:02:43 2017 No.18083882 >>18083680 But nobody in their right mind will ever deal into that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:07:20 2017 No.18083910 >>18083882 >nobody in their right mind That's the point.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:46:23 2017 No.18084048

"And next question is “how to make pretty teenage girl friend”? I have never had such a thing so I am puzzled. But generally speaking, it is the same as mahjong. In the movies, novels, and cartons, people say “I love you forever” but it is full of lies. Same as how Japanese adult videos are fake.

In mahjong, an each sides waiting is better than a kanchan waiting and a 3 sides waiting is better than an each side waiting. Making a girlfriend is the same. The higher the number of winning tiles, the easier the win.

When you write “pretty girlfriend” it implies that you try to pass on any other potential girlfriends. When you face any situation to win, you just say “Ron!”(declaration of win) like mahjong. It is a fundamental skill of mahjong. Housewife in her thirties or whatever, you just accept it. You can get points from any person. Someday you can win with a pretty teenage girlfriend. Important things are speed, perfect escaping, and rate of winning. Use stealing moderately and get 1000 points girlfriend, 8000 points girlfriend riding on the flow."

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:24:05 2017 No.18084222

>>18082869
I think it was pretty justified if you could get your hand in that shape that early. It's only E3 but you're correct in trying to get a big hand to help the point difference. My only gripe is the 8s call. With a ryanmen, you could have tried to draw the 58s in yourself to at least keep your honitsu just a little more hidden.
No one(I would though) is going to cut the haku since it's joukyuu so at least you take away someone else's dealer round and pull in 3000 points.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:27:54 2017 No.18084243 >>18084048 >girlfriend riding Lewd!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:38:07 2017 No.18084277 3:0

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:22:48 2017 No.18084512 File: 399 KB, 741x637, Guess.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guess who won this game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:23:28 2017 No.18084517 >>18084512 This round? Toimen's nagashi mangan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:24:49 2017 No.18084529 >>18084512 Ok wait no I'm fucking blind. I don't know man. A double ron?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:45:26 2017 No.18084916 >>18084512 Did the toimen have a suuankou?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:09:10 2017 No.18084987 File: 374 KB, 731x631, Cucked.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18084916 >>18084529 You are correct

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:32:22 2017 No.18085110 File: 695 KB, 1014x760, c6691dbcddeced59d962f4d6dd97d28c[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Life sucks, drop out

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 01:54:08 2017 No.18085629 File: 271 KB, 587x675, 1510904309540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw Nagashi mangan

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:33:56 2017 No.18088331 >>18078737 I got this, it's not bad. Wish there were more avatar options though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:22:10 2017 No.18089115 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017122506gm-0029-0000-47a0c181&tw=2 Rollercoaster where we all played like shit but it was fun.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 19:17:29 2017 No.18089630
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>Draw second haku
>Unsure what to go for, so discard 8man for the time being, thinking I can still decide for chii toitsu on the next turn
>Shimocha discards this
Now I wonder what others would go for since I had pretty much no idea what's good and what isn't in that moment.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 19:27:52 2017 No.18089673

>>18089630
Pon and discard 6p. Chiitoi dora3 would be too cheap, unless you drew a ton, in which case you could call riichi on it. But since it's time to make a choice, I'd rather go for toitoi chun dora3 which is a guaranteed haneman, and has a chance of baiman if you get both another 5s and the haku.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 19:46:15 2017 No.18089751

>>18089630
I think I would pon'd that and dropped 3m. It's probably better to have dropped a chun and stuck with chiitoi waiting on 8m considering thats a mangan at least. Going full pon palace has potential for a haneman I think but that almost never works out for me. I'd still do it though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:41:15 2017 No.18089998 "Nice" waits >ryanmen and its derivatives >kanchan for iipeikou or sanshoku >penchan "Naughty" waits >kanchan not for iipeikou or sanshoku >shanpon >tanki Merry Christmas, /jp/.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:06:08 2017 No.18090086

>>18089630
I would have called riichi waiting on 8m to push it to haneman. Everyone will probably fold but in the off chance someone runs out of tiles, at least there's a chance of a suji trap by then.
I personally wouldn't call pon right now because like you, I'm kinda clueless as to what's a good hand to build it towards. At this point I'd go with a dama chiitoi and aim only for toimen. If I draw any honours, riichi.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:17:14 2017 No.18090124 >>18079726 I decided to finally download Touhou Unreal Mahjong. Does 4N just not have a story mode at all? Am I blind?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:55:09 2017 No.18090509 File: 462 KB, 731x623, Imsorry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus Christ. I thought you were pulling the bullshit here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:00:09 2017 No.18090521 File: 1.68 MB, 1540x1200, 1487518208373.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2:0 Come enjoy some Christmas mahjong

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 01:00:16 2017 No.18090937 File: 336 KB, 710x400, 1339655707963.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Merry Christmas you dykes!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 02:18:07 2017 No.18091135 File: 921 KB, 1027x723, Lesbian magic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18090937 This became shousangen honitsu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 02:25:49 2017 No.18091154 >>18090937 thx u 2 i luv u all

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 02:55:36 2017 No.18091221 Entertaining game

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 06:54:45 2017 No.18092115 >>18090509 His fault for discarding 3sou instead of 5pin

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 07:29:14 2017 No.18092289 Actually finding this game pretty fun, even though it's luck based

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 07:50:54 2017 No.18092387 >>18092289 Go play more and see that it's not as luck-dependent as you think it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 08:56:21 2017 No.18092616 File: 583 KB, 1024x600, aaaaaaa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First ever yakuman, winning with rinshan Merry xmas /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 09:46:04 2017 No.18092793 >>18092616 Fuck! Tenpai after two discards. Truly a Christmas miracle.

>>	Frenetic Mon Dec 25 10:42:02 2017 No.18093031 Merry Christmas Let's celebrate with mahjong 2:0

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 15:03:03 2017 No.18094340 >>18092616 The Christmas hax is real

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 21:44:22 2017 No.18101939 File: 937 KB, 1024x768, tenhou_2017-12-27_02-42-39.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You can probably guess what happened right after they called Riichi

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 22:05:49 2017 No.18102070 >>18101939 Yikes... Was that a Sanbaiman or just a Baiman?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 22:09:47 2017 No.18102090 File: 850 KB, 1024x768, tenhou_2017-12-27_03-09-07.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18102070 Just Baiman

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 01:37:35 2017 No.18102843 >>18102090 I want a just baiman

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 03:38:32 2017 No.18103093

I'm going to Japan soon, is there somewhere in particular I should go looking for Mahjong arcade cabs, or are they in the usual game centers?
Last time I went I didn't notice any mahjong cabs (I went to a bunch of Taito Stations, Hey!, Capcom Plaza, Club Sega, Round1) but I wasn't particularly looking for them either.
Are there any games that stand out from the rest?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 03:48:46 2017 No.18103118 >>18103093 Go to Shibuton and play in real autotables. If you really want arcades, SEGA MJ is probably what you want. Don't think it's common, though.

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 04:01:12 2017 No.18103157

>>18103118
I'm not even remotely confident enough to go play people in person, I've barely played enough to know everything that's going on and I'd be hopeless at communicating with randoms.
None of the people I'm going with have any clue how to play either and don't seem interested, it's just for the novelty factor.
MJ's website has arcade locations listed so that looks good, cheers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 06:30:07 2017 No.18103886 >>18103157 You should also play Mahjong Fight Club by Konami and let me know how it is. I am glad I wasn't into Mahjong when I went to Japan earlier this year or else I would probably have spent too much money on arcade Mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:23:52 2017 No.18107888 File: 1.81 MB, 3264x1836, 20171228_022036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mfw I got this from a friend. Guess I can finally play with myself!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:26:46 2017 No.18108405 File: 4 KB, 233x132, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally reached 100 ranked games. Not too shabby, but not sure if I want to pursue for tokujou right now. Maybe after NY.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:49:37 2017 No.18108950 >>18107888 I also was gifted a set. Was excited at first, but I have no idea who I'm going to be able to rope into playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 01:01:03 2017 No.18109000 >want to try mahjong >no clue what the hell is going on Anyone have a guide?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 01:03:14 2017 No.18109014 >>18109000 Not getting furiten is the best way to start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:04:40 2017 No.18109196 >>18109000 play the flash game then read this http://osamuko.com/complete-beginners-guide-to-online-mahjong-part-1-how-to-play/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:31:03 2017 No.18109616 >>18108405 Is that hanchan or tonpuusen?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:45:07 2017 No.18110007 >>18108950 Well, I have a few friends who know how to play or are willing to learn, so I can at least get a few rounds out of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:59:31 2017 No.18110049 >>18109616 96 hanchan, 4 tonpuu. 55 ippan, 45 joukyuu.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 07:53:37 2017 No.18110178
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>Stop playing for 6 months because time issues
>Lost my ID so I create a new account
>Instant winning streak (well it's ippan)
>Make some mistakes and also get bad luck for the first time with my new account so I end up losing
>This happens
Thanks, tenhou, I'm glad to be back, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 08:09:53 2017 No.18110222 For some reasons my crack now can only be used for NoName, I can't use my normal ID. Am I fucked?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:59:47 2017 No.18112010 >>18110222 Mine seems to work fine. Haven't tested playing an actual game but the lobbies and stats show up normally.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:22:37 2017 No.18112164 >>18110178 Toimen get rekt

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:21:17 2017 No.18112531 >>18112010 You're right. I swear I kept seeing that no-entry text on the left part for hours. Maybe day change somehow fixed that, but it's all good now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:22:16 2017 No.18113463 File: 45 KB, 555x389, Stats.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Year/Month is ending. Post your stats. Show your suffering. >7447 >0:0

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:33:17 2017 No.18113566

>>18113463
4+1+4+2
After getting almost 100 games in during November, I hardly played at all in December. Maybe it's because I'm at my best R and dan ranking and I'm afraid to fuck it up, or maybe I just feel accomplished by getting here and lost the drive to keep pushing.
I don't see 6th dan as a very realistic goal for the time being, so as long as I can stay in 5th and above 1900R I'm happy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:04:08 2017 No.18113761 File: 7 KB, 223x297, ;_;.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113463 Started off so well, then it just tumbled down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:03:19 2017 No.18114617 File: 8 KB, 223x320, tenhou_2017-12-28_18-59-37.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113463 I'm bad but I had a lot of fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:16:01 2017 No.18114719 File: 7 KB, 240x321, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113463

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:08:29 2017 No.18115876 >TFW you pull off a snipe for the first time both other players tossed my winning tiles too. fighting that urge to yell ron is harder than turning down sex

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:33:17 2017 No.18116226 File: 20 KB, 448x303, Year.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113463 Oh, and my 2017 year in tokujou... fuck this shit. >2.56

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:12:42 2017 No.18116499 2:0 please play with me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:54:05 2017 No.18116598 File: 490 KB, 963x641, Cup.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18116499 No, too busy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:09:52 2017 No.18117096 >>18116598 tfw no way to buy gold

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:04:01 2017 No.18119594 File: 22 KB, 585x390, Clean Pool.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017122920gm-00a9-0000-40d8e7a8&tw=0&ts=2 >this shit happens in houou too

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:32:30 2017 No.18119768

What single player apps for android are there, preferably a no frills hanchan? I tried the android port of the flash game but it doesn't have red dora and it allows kuikae.
>Pastebin
According to the reviews, Tengokuhai removed single player, Mahjong and Friends is buggy and Kindai isn't available in my country.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:37:40 2017 No.18119803 >>18119768 I personally use Mahjong and Friends. Why is it buggy for you? Only bug I see is the endless mode.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:43:08 2017 No.18119854 >>18119803 I personally haven't tried it but there's a review mentioned a few things and also the fact that it hasn't been updated since 2014. Maybe I'll try it out anyway.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:09:33 2017 No.18120420
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>>18119768
Granted, the AI to this game is fairly dumb, as Pretty Girls Battle is simply a repackaged version of this game. But I used this thing to learn yaku and increase my speed play.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:56:25 2017 No.18120683 File: 68 KB, 960x720, saikyo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119768 try saikyo no mahjong 3d. It has lots of options that you can mess around with, but at the end of the day it's a pretty good player-vs-AI game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:19:42 2017 No.18121443 >>18120683 That game has an app now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:04:53 2017 No.18121630 File: 720 KB, 799x677, end_me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:08:31 2017 No.18121651 >>18121630 You went from 4th and not busted to 4th and busted. Nothing really changed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 02:27:21 2017 No.18122573 >>18121630 >S4 >that hand >those points You were fucked regardless mate. Though your discard pile has lots of honors, might as well have gone for broke and aimed for a yakuman like a madman.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 03:39:38 2017 No.18122714 >>18121630 Not even a pity nagashi mangan win, that hurts

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 03:56:35 2017 No.18122748 >>18122714 2000-4000 wouldn't change the placement, anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:13:44 2017 No.18122792 >>18122748 That's what makes it a pity win

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:18:11 2017 No.18122806 File: 18 KB, 308x144, 1501214089836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113463 6+4+1+1 in my last 12 games but I haven't been playing much this year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:24:57 2017 No.18123235 So how long does an account have before tenhou prunes it for inactivity?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:55:23 2017 No.18123355 >>18123235 180 days if I remember correctly.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:26:50 2017 No.18124150

>>18121630
if you folded, your kamicha might have dealt in to 18000, letting you get 3rd. never completely give up and do something you KNOW isn't going to help.

>>18121443
i didn't see you were looking for android, my bad. I've heard people say that Maujong is good, so you can try that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:31:30 2017 No.18124171 You still play mahjong with closed source programs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:35:37 2017 No.18124186 >>18124171 You lose one han when you open it so it's better to keep it closed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:40:01 2017 No.18124203 >>18124171 >>>/g/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:47:08 2017 No.18125782 File: 897 KB, 1077x1009, Rinshan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First Rinshan Kaihou and even got first with it in the last round, that was satisfying. I'm finally becoming a lesbian, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:43:40 2017 No.18126063 >>18125782 I was just happy to get 3rd on that one

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:42:21 2017 No.18126781 File: 228 KB, 728x600, Dealer kokushi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That's a good way to end the month.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 06:26:15 2017 No.18129716

>>18119594
Why did he riichi ? I guess riichi is a good yakuman camouflage and north doesn't feel that dangerous but still the hatsu feels dangerous against those two riichis.

There must be some kind of reason since that's houhou but I don't get it (I'm still at ippan level so I'm still struggling with the basis).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:19:01 2017 No.18130079 File: 289 KB, 850x1235, __haramura_nodoka_and_miyanaga_saki_megami_and_saki_drawn_by_sakai_takahiro__sample-b76a531771f7dcb830bd09f91549fc5d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18125782 There is no turning back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:32:54 2017 No.18130158 >>18129716 If someone else had dropped the 7-pin it'd be Toitoi sanankou riichi chun haku shousangen dora 1. Since that's 10-han I can only imagine the guy was hoping for ura. That or he did it to make people fold.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:21:10 2017 No.18132312 File: 374 KB, 1025x805, BestGirl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18130079 Nice

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:10:49 2017 No.18135892 Anyone up for first game of 2018 3 hours earlier?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:23:37 2017 No.18136603 >>18113463 10+8+11+6 Tokujou The stats on 7447 are fucked up. It's double counting a bunch of games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:42:23 2018 No.18138376 File: 641 KB, 813x540, DSadsYNVAAEXrrP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to hug her

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:25:13 2018 No.18138703 File: 1.11 MB, 1076x1009, ChooseWisely.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Choose wisely

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:26:44 2018 No.18138708 >>18138703 Oh also this is the last round, cause I forgot to go back to 2 hanchan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:29:27 2018 No.18138720 >>18138703 Oh fuck, I didn't check properly and only see now that toimen has 1sou in the pond. Could've won, fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:38:05 2018 No.18138755 >>18138703 Both of those look absolutely dangerous as fuck. I think bailing with 4p might be the right choice. No idea if I'd ever do that though.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:21:11 2018 No.18138901

>>18138703
Kamicha and shimocha haven't discarded a single souzu tile in all the game. That should be indication enough that the 1s is not completely safe, even if the toimen dropped one way earlier in the round.

The nan is dora, and you can't see a single one, obviously dealing it is out of the question. I'd drop a 4p. 5s also passed a couple of turns around, but I'm not too sure about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:36:55 2018 No.18138963 File: 1.15 MB, 1075x1009, CouldVeWon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138901 >>18138755 I bailed too with the 4pin. Both tiles are actually save and toimen later discarded the last south wind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:06:36 2018 No.18139128 >>18138963 with that kind of mrxican standoff, 4p was certainly the right choice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:08:12 2018 No.18139356 File: 3 KB, 192x36, 1514648602261.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Off to a good start. Happy new year!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:49:35 2018 No.18142193 Don't get that mahjong game for the Switch. Connection problems, hardly ever can find a full match, and the ones that finish don't count if they disconnect prematurely. The only thing it's good for is playing AI away from the computer.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 00:15:39 2018 No.18142644
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I had never paid attention to these graphs before, and now I'm pretty interested in seeing other player's. I'm 12 hours off nippon so I'm at my best at 5 am on Thursdays and Sundays, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 00:54:38 2018 No.18142818 File: 291 KB, 712x720, 1497532736403.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3:0

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:19:34 2018 No.18144459
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>>18139356
>shimocha played like he's still in hangover
>kamicha tsumo'd big hands but I managed to drain his points
>barely reached 1st place with only 100 points gap
>toimen took it over anyway
It's still small luck, so I'd take it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:55:58 2018 No.18147574 I'm excited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6yao6Q6msY Duplicate mahjong is finally here. No more luck.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:57:42 2018 No.18147581
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>>18117096
I have a good size stash of items in MJ and I only spent like $5 to buy some SP voices because you can only get them with gold.

Guide to making enough SEGA chips to live on forever:

1) have a good win rate or get good and improve your win rate to a good one (check your free taisen stats for a good estimate)
2) save up warchest by playing the free games
3) play ikkyokusen with the warchest, at first wins and losses will be small, but eventually you'll hit a haneman or baiman and go +several thousand chips in one go.

After you have like 5000+ chips you are really set in regards to getting the free stuff for playing X amount of event games, or for getting SP character coins for playing X games. Usually when you play that many games, even a mediocre player places decently enough to make at least half what they put into the games back (make sure to check your mail and redeem event gains after each event). The rest can be regained through the monthly +400 you can get before the next big event that has good shit. After that you can keep doing regular ikkyokusen to increase funds, or you can get an absurd amount of chips if you're willing to gamble on the gambling tables. The risk is basically losing all of your funds in potentially one go, but if you're a good player and place well regularly, you can rake up to like 7000 chips from a first place. Balance that with good 4th (or 3rd in sanma) place evasion, and you will see a regular flow of income.

For reference I usually hover at around 2-3k chips and that's usually sufficient for most events if you want only one or two of the prizes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:02:00 2018 No.18147598 >>18124203 Don/t you mean /prog/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:14:46 2018 No.18147930 File: 246 KB, 1996x2262, disgust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18147574 duplicate mahjong has been around for a while, but it destroys the essence of what mahjong is. I can't believe you see this as a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:32:19 2018 No.18148313 >>18147930 agreed. seems like a bunch of nerd wanking

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:17:48 2018 No.18148468 >>18082500 don't you have to do something special to put money into the JP eShop though? I tried it back at launch and my credit card wasn't accepted.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 23:48:26 2018 No.18148891

>>18147930
How does it "destroy the essence of what mahjong is"? Everyone sits at a table and gets dealt a hand of tiles from a wall they don't know how was built. East is luckier and gets a better hand while North is unluckier and gets a worse hand; I don't see how it varies too much from a normal game.
Maybe I'm missing something or we're on different pages right now. Could you elaborate on how duplicate mahjong "destroys the essence of mahjong"? Preferably starting from your definition of the essence of mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 02:50:06 2018 No.18149595 >>18147930 >it destroys the essence of what mahjong is What are you talking about? It makes the game more fun. Just like duplicate poker and duplicate bridge. Do you have a gambling addiction?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 03:15:07 2018 No.18149687 >>18147581 Thank you thats really helpful. How much should this warchest be before doing ikkyokusen games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 03:22:42 2018 No.18149718 >>18083680 Just draw it yourself, aniki

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 03:39:47 2018 No.18149776 File: 73 KB, 300x300, 1499622932277.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I starting to get the hang of this game or did somebody piss off the majong gods? http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018010317gm-0009-0000-449a7499&tw=0

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:43:35 2018 No.18150940

>>18148891

To me, each game of mahjong is supposed to be a unique experience that's shared with the friends/acquaintances you're playing with. It's a game where the outcome is almost entirely based around luck, but the scale of the win/loss can be influenced by skill; by definition, this makes it not competitive. There's something special about the game you play and the conversations you have during it, and even if you happen to be the one bearing the brunt of bad luck, it's still a story that's unique and shared by everybody at the table. Playing a duplicate game means the situations you see on the table are no longer unique, and cool experiences get cheapened into points of comparison (did somebody play correctly and win that mangan, or did they make a mistake and not win it).

>>18149595

Duplicate bridge is a great example of a duplicate game done right. It's a game where there's more public information and cooperative play fosters deeper levels of strategy, which favors removing random elements and making it more competitive (without even getting into playstyle changes for matchpoint vs. IMP scoring). Duplicate poker is a load of garbage because it discourages variance in playstyles, making the games more dull and conservative when a lot of the appeal of poker is smart gambling. At its heart, mahjong is a noncompetitive game for the same reason that poker is a noncompetitive game, and it doesn't make sense to force it to be something it's not.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:35:08 2018 No.18151150

>>18149776
Just a couple of mistakes I noticed, but in your second hand you could have played better.
You had a 345 shape with the man tiles, you drew the 2m dora and dealt it instead of swapping it for the 5m. Opening for the 7p was not a very good idea, although it paid off. Then you discarded a 6m when the 3m would let you keep your tenpai and was safer. The pons you called afterwards were pants on head retarded, even if it paid off this time, all you did is give yourself more chances to discard dangerous tiles against 2 players in riichi for the tanki wait. It paid off, but you shouldn't do that shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:49:01 2018 No.18151205 File: 239 KB, 737x633, 3000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So much Tenhou.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 12:04:13 2018 No.18151283

>>18150940
You say that mahjong isn't competitive but would you agree that there are strong mahjong players and weak mahjong players? If so, you can always run a competition to find out who is the strongest, hence making it a competitive game. If there is a measurable difference between players, you can always make a competition out of it.
I personally see mahjong not as a game of luck but rather "luck has dealt you the tiles, now show your skill". It's a game of decision making with what you have on hand. If one player chooses to fold with his hand while the other turns it into a mangan when dealt the exact same hand, it's not really luck anymore.
At first glance, I also find the thought of 30 or so teams playing at the same table with the same setup over and over terribly dull and uninspiring, almost makes me want to puke with how static the whole thing feels. However if you're out to measure skill, it's definitely needed and from the player's point of view, he and his opponents are going into a new round in a new match with new tiles. From their point of view, it's no different from a normal mahjong match. When you have 4 people, 68 discards and about 8.64*10^77 different ways to choose your final tiles and play those discards, you end up with a story that's unique and shared by everybody at the table.

It's not exactly the same thing but if you want to have a different perspective on this issue, try thinking of everything we're discussing as tetris. If at the world tetris championship the last two finalists were playing two different games of tetris and based on those scores the champion was decided, would that sit right with you?

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:12:31 2018 No.18151873

>>18150940
>Playing a duplicate game means the situations you see on the table are no longer unique
They're unique to you when you play them the first time. You aren't watching other tables as you play.
>cool experiences get cheapened into points of comparison
Why is the experience not cool anymore? Are shogi and go not cool?
>Duplicate poker is a load of garbage
Disagreed. It makes poker fun to play by getting money out of the picture.
>discourages variance in playstyles
Can you give examples? I can't imagine how this can be so.
>gambling
>mahjong is a noncompetitive game
Go play pachinko if you dislike playing mahjong for mahjong itself.
>>18151283
I agree with this post. However,
>30 or so teams playing at the same table
Only four teams. Using a greater or smaller number of tables means you're doing individual rather than team competition.
>he and his opponents are going into a new round in a new match with new tiles. From their point of view, it's no different from a normal mahjong match
This. You play the same way in duplicate mahjong, duplicate poker, and duplicate bridge, if you know how to play any of those games. The strategy is entirely the same. You just play the best you can play, because you love the game.
>you end up with a story that's unique and shared by everybody at the table
Even more can be shared. If you have friends not only at your table, but neighboring tables, you can discuss the plays with them too.
>tetris
Good example.

One thing I will note, is that duplicate mahjong isn't riichi, it's Chinese competitive mahjong, which I'm sure doesn't sit well with many people here. That, though, is truly personal preference.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:15:57 2018 No.18151883

One might think
>Wouldn't competitive mahjong be like removing all the items from Super Smash Bros Melee, making it less fun?
But no, duplicate doesn't arise from changing the rules of the game, but from the way you set up the tournament. The gameplay remains as before. You could even pretend the other tables aren't there, if you wished to play without thinking about that.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:17:15 2018 No.18151888

>>18151283
There are definitely strong and weak mahjong players. I like a stricter definition of competitive game: a competitive game is a game where skill is the only deciding factor in the outcome of the game. a true competitive game is one where the better player will win 100% of the time, but that doesn't mean you can't compete by playing mahjong, just that it takes too much to remove random factors in the game and that even if you do there's almost no value in a comparative score in terms of proving skill.

For your other example, I think it's a false equivalency because tetris has a 7-bag piece system where each player receives one of each piece in a random order; only the order of pieces changes, not the pieces each player receives. The point you're making though is why I disagree with mahjong being called competitive; the scores can vary too much despite player skill, and trying to normalize skill by comparing it to other players in the same position still isn't exact.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:48:32 2018 No.18152007

>>18151888
I think I'm starting to see your point of why mahjong shouldn't be considered a competitive game. Unlike chess or go where certain moves are objectively better than others, mahjong is too iffy. If a "weak" player discards 4s from 14s and someone else deals into the chinroutou while the "strong" player discards 1s and everyone folds, it wouldn't sit right with me that the "strong" player didn't get rewarded. Not so much "luck based" than "unpredictable" and not skill based enough.
I guess the closest thing we can do is really only have the players play 2000 hanchan against each other to see who makes the better decision more often.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:29:02 2018 No.18152215 File: 86 KB, 803x540, IMG_20180103_122812.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that one player that keeps dealing into your hands someone's girlfriend is getting beat up at this very moment

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:43:07 2018 No.18152315 >>18152215 >Riichi, Ippatsu, 2 dora, 2 ura dora >On a single tile wait in turn 4 You lucker (fucker)

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:49:48 2018 No.18152353

>>18151283
>If one player chooses to fold with his hand while the other turns it into a mangan when dealt the exact same hand, it's not really luck anymore.
Skill in mahjong is not about the result of a single decision. If there was a 95% chance of dealing into mangan and a 5% chance of winning a mangan, it doesn't mean that the person who happened to win the mangan is a better player. Duplicate mahjong does not make for a truly skill-based competitive format because this element of chance still exists. It also doesn't solve the imbalance of players in one seating position simply getting better draws than players in another seat.

Besides this, if one player in a given seat decides to call and another player in the same seat chooses not to, the drawing order changes completely and it's hard to say that it's still "duplicate" mahjong.

>>18151873
>This. You play the same way in duplicate mahjong, duplicate poker, and duplicate bridge, if you know how to play any of those games. The strategy is entirely the same. You just play the best you can play, because you love the game.
In order to be good at duplicate mahjong the strategy must necessarily change. In regular mahjong, your opponents are the players at your table, while in duplicate mahjong, your opponents are everyone who started in the same seating position as you. This has two big impacts on strategy - firstly, the entire field of strategy based on placement is no longer valid. Secondly, since you're competing with others with the same starting hands, there's incentive to outdo them by trying to make bigger hands - this therefore results in a big shift in hand-building strategy.

The first hanchan of IORMC 2016 was accidentally set for duplicate mahjong. I happened to luck my way into a seat with good draws and won some big hands to take first place in the hanchan, but a couple of other players in the same seat managed to win bigger than me. Does that mean they were more skilled, or were they just more aggressive? Were players in other seats less skilled?

I don't know about duplicate mahjong for non-riichi rulesets, but duplicate riichi mahjong will never be taken seriously by anyone who actually understands the game, and that's without even getting into the practical impossibilities of running a real world tournament.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 16:41:12 2018 No.18152639

>>18149687
Personally I like to save up for a few months and play 6 or 8 games all at once (I feel like I play better if I marathon games), but you can also just play whenever you have spare chips. The whole "warchest" thing is just my personal play style I guess, should have explained that better.

What I do recommend is watching out for when ikkyokusen starts. IIRC it runs for like two or three days, and you get more of a reward for playing on the first day compared to the other days.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 17:33:40 2018 No.18152910 File: 76 KB, 940x517, 1448303405207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2.0 fight me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 17:35:24 2018 No.18152922 >>18152910 3.0

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 17:56:39 2018 No.18153008 >>18152910 consider yourself fought

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:48:45 2018 No.18153280 3:0

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 19:43:53 2018 No.18153600 daisangen guy omdt good way to start out the new year w

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 19:54:39 2018 No.18153646
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>Trim hand of junk that I don't need
>After 8 discards, I notice I've only discarded honors and terminals
>Only have 1-2 left, so it's probably not gonna be nagashi mangan anyway
>Fast forward, only one tile left in the wall, toimen has to discard
>Mfw shimocha actually chi's to destroy my dream

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 20:20:15 2018 No.18153763
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>>18153646
This game was a hell of a ride. Not only that blue balling nagashi mangan in east, but also the entire south round in which toimen overtook me for a brief moment just to make room for shimocha again.

http://tenhou.net/3/?log=2018010409gm-0089-0000-9e126899&tw=0

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 22:09:00 2018 No.18154423 >>18152353 >the drawing order changes completely Actually, they reroute that so that that doesn't occur.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:56:46 2018 No.18155483
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I've been trying out Jannavi, the gameplay is pretty slow, but it has some really fun options in the private games options:
Nagashi Yakuman
Yakuman Shibari
6 Aka
Shiisan Uushii
Shiisan Puutaa
Isshoku (x)jun and (x)Renkou (I believe it's one han for everything after two but I haven't won these)
And Pao (I think this turns it on for rinshans)

Really cool, lets you also make lobbies with bots which makes playing dumb games like these easier because you only need to rope in one friend to do so!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 09:35:22 2018 No.18156662 >>18119768 Maujong. That's what I use.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:05:54 2018 No.18157506 >>18151150 I knew it was risky but I wanted the win. And I know this sounds stupid but my gut had a bad feeling about discarding 5m, so it didn't really matter to me which one of them I would discard, I was set on going for the toi toi

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:08:21 2018 No.18159799
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>>18156662
Why can't I win the simplest hands when I have over two dora tiles?
Even when I'm in tenpai, have good flow, somebody (sometimes me) call a kan and I get fucked with the additional doras.
One time I even had a wait on like 3 tiles and couldn't win after several turns. Then some faggot wins by a fucking dead wall draw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 23:32:56 2018 No.18160147 File: 399 KB, 900x600, crushing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too bad there's no bonus for getting way over +50.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 00:48:58 2018 No.18160380 File: 439 B, 119x16, 1513892286918.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The worst part is that this isn't because I played like a retard but because luck fucked me over (I think).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 00:58:42 2018 No.18160416 >>18160380 You probably played like a retard too.

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:31:09 2018 No.18160908

>>18160416
Yeah but I couldn't even win the rounds where I was somewhat decent.
Can't finish the big hands even with multiple waits and either the faggot who has a single wait calls Riichi and draws it himself or I get his winning tile after spending like 10 rounds in Riichi

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:15:17 2018 No.18161052 >>18160147 >expecting a bonus for whipping on ippan tier shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:28:07 2018 No.18161712 File: 39 KB, 634x535, ZOfa5EE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how lucky i am?

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:19:07 2018 No.18163454
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>2017: doing great, maybe not tokujo bound but best in months
>2018: nothing but fucking 3rds and 4ths

fuck... isnt there a rabbit rabbit mantra for good luck? gimme something to fight off this bullshit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:10:15 2018 No.18163721 >>18163454 That is the essence of hell

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:11:28 2018 No.18163730 File: 1.43 MB, 1606x903, Houtei.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18163454 Riichi'd player got hit with a double Ron, one of which was Houtei Raoyui only with 6 dora.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:12:30 2018 No.18163734 >>18163730 >>18163454 Didn't mean to quote.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 01:30:04 2018 No.18166628 File: 437 B, 122x14, 1490217339766.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18163454 Tell me about it. I dropped from first Dan to 1Kyu and I keep losing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 16:20:14 2018 No.18170886 >>18147598 No such board. >>>/prog/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 02:07:26 2018 No.18174433 File: 133 KB, 473x496, sickp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18170886

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 12:11:35 2018 No.18176448 File: 475 KB, 726x620, 1506994878060.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How obvious was my wait?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 15:48:16 2018 No.18177777 File: 268 KB, 680x1972, 3900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel the same way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 15:50:02 2018 No.18177795 >>18176448 While obvious as fuck - shimocha still drops it 'cause muh tenpai

Anonymous Sun Jan 7 16:21:46 2018 No.18177952
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>>18177795
Yeah, but it kinda pisses me off because I'm on a losing streak and I can't win good hands with multiple waits. Even worse when I called riichi for tiles that should be available and after 10 rounds someone else calls riichi and I immediately have to deal his winninge tile or a double Ron.
Winning that hand was an insult and part of a punishment that I deserve for thinking I'm getting good

Anonymous Sun Jan 7 16:26:07 2018 No.18177974
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>>18177952
>part of a punishment that I deserve for thinking I'm getting good
This is how you look at it. The other guy did something dumber than you.

And image related. I did something dumb here and got punished for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 17:10:25 2018 No.18178233 >>18177974 I always do something like this lol

Anonymous Sun Jan 7 19:15:42 2018 No.18178923
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>>18177952

>Winning that hand was an insult and part of a punishment that I deserve for thinking I'm getting good

I know that feel bro. you're not alone.

keep in mind that shit luck happens, don't be tempted to whitewash yourself of bad play or worse: a bad mindset

take some time off, pursue other interests for a bit and come back fresh. you'll get much better results than obsessing over losses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 20:08:17 2018 No.18179193 File: 59 KB, 704x400, 1488391013839.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can pick this hobby up. Yoroshiku onegai shimasu, /jp/ Tell me some stories about when you were a novice in mahjong and didn't know anything about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 20:33:32 2018 No.18179321 >>18179193 the guy that runs the meetup in LA has a pretty funny story about losing a bunch of cash walking into gambling den while trying to learn to play better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 20:34:02 2018 No.18179324 >>18179193 I used to be a novice in mahjong and didn't know anything about it. Then I learnt how to play and got better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 20:35:36 2018 No.18179331 >>18178923 I'm pursuing other interests, namely booze and pornography. no downside to these!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 20:44:53 2018 No.18179362 File: 30 KB, 704x400, 1491380728573.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18179321 Well, I highly doubt there are gambling dens in here. >>18179324 What made you want to learn how to play better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 23:41:13 2018 No.18180270 >>18179362 >What made you want to learn how to play better. My desire to play at the OEMC some day. Also that it's simply a fun game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 02:14:53 2018 No.18180946 Got to 初段 for the first time. We'll see how long it lasts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 05:21:27 2018 No.18181568 >>18180270 >My desire to play at the OEMC I've been thinking about having that as a goal as well. Is it simply a matter of finding a group to join and then winning in tournaments? I have no idea where to start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 05:38:55 2018 No.18181646 >>18180270 >>18181568 >OEMC Is that like the WRC?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 05:52:21 2018 No.18181705 >>18181646 Google is your friend. It's the European Riichi association.

Anonymous Mon Jan 8 09:35:40 2018 No.18182675

>>18177974
Oh yeah? I just had a game where I called Riichi on a closed 5Man wait even though Toimen declared a Pon on them right before. I thought I was clever for choosing a hell wait. Then I saw that Shimocha discarded it in the fourth turn.

Luckily it made everyone paranoid and they destroyed their hands, even the leading Toimen but he managed to form another tenpai so I didn't get closer to him

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 09:36:43 2018 No.18182680 >>18179321 Because he got robbed or outplayed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 11:03:36 2018 No.18183005 >>18182680 outplayed. lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 11:11:40 2018 No.18183045 >>18182680 he hangs here so he can tell it way better, but he started by winning an unlikely sanshoku dokou hand which scared the whole table, and followed up with a noten riichi fuckup that took all the air (and money) out of him

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 16:28:38 2018 No.18184509 >>18180270 >OEMC But that shit is for MCR

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 18:25:03 2018 No.18185142 File: 93 KB, 728x540, IMG_20180108_151733.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've seen folks disconnect after getting ronned 8000. this motherfucker believed in the dream and created the s4 miracle. I'll take my 2nd place, well played

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 22:12:50 2018 No.18186096 File: 80 KB, 1440x810, 1364157521606.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18182675 Karaten riichi. Best kind of riichi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 22:53:19 2018 No.18186241 >>18184509 Yes, that's the mahjong I play, because it is more fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 9 00:16:58 2018 No.18186575 2:0 here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 9 14:59:32 2018 No.18190052 Mahjong becomes quite dumb when both shimocha and kamicha disconnect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 9 17:32:47 2018 No.18190782 File: 475 KB, 729x622, 1493217779020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Come on

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 9 17:38:06 2018 No.18190817 >>18185142 I've seen people disconnect after getting ronned. Just play man, you can still ruin the game for the guy who ronned you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 10 15:54:49 2018 No.18196270 >>18142644 So where can one find those graphs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 10 18:25:00 2018 No.18197078 >>18196270 Have fun http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 10 23:43:42 2018 No.18198594 join the party 2:4

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 15:02:37 2018 No.18208091 Toki.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 15:25:05 2018 No.18208219 File: 312 KB, 1940x1300, WhiskeyUnder40GearPatrolToki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18208091 -is a great way to relax after a massive loss

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 21:00:44 2018 No.18209862 File: 190 KB, 418x498, 1488494568802.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18208219 How's Japanese whiskey? I've never had anything that wasn't Irish or Scottish.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 21:09:21 2018 No.18209906 >>18209862 Can't speak from experience but it seems like folks on the whiskey thread on /ck/ like it well enough. Maybe a bit too overpriced, especially with import fees and such.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 21:17:05 2018 No.18209932 >>18209862 good. I'm partial to Mars Iwai myself, but the most unique was Kikori which uses rice mash. >>18209906 nice. another general traveller. been drinking your tullamote dew 1oz shots?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 01:36:36 2018 No.18211062 How do you deal with the crushing realization you will never be good at or understand this game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:22:41 2018 No.18211298 >>18211062 Mahjong isn't a game that you get good at. It's a game that you get less worse at.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:42:39 2018 No.18211379 >>18211298 It upsets me how bad I am.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:03:21 2018 No.18213347
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>Last south round, game being pretty close
>Dealer double riichi
>My first discard passes
>Pon shimocha's discard
>Shimocha chi's mine
>Discards winning tile
>Actually puts kamicha into 1st
The fuck did I just witness? I was even getting excited for a potential haneman or more with this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:51:26 2018 No.18214531 >>18211298 Only if you're playing something that isn't duplicate mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:37:21 2018 No.18215821 File: 148 KB, 1280x720, tacobitch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why can I only win at east round only games? In east round only I do fine but if I play a full hanchan I get my ass kicked

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:43:13 2018 No.18215857 >>18213347 >pon on a double riichi Isn't that a bit risky?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:58:02 2018 No.18215942 >>18215821 Most likely you get impatient. In tonpussen you want to play very aggressively. In hanchan you want to wait until you have something. Just passing dealer 3 times after a big E1 won't work in hanchan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:06:50 2018 No.18216366 >>18215857 Breaking ippatsu is fine if you're confident your discard will be safe. >>18213347 How are you seeing a haneman? Toitoi sanankou fanpai dora? Seems a bit of a stretch to me.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:27:35 2018 No.18216486

>>18216366
>Breaking ippatsu is fine if you're confident your discard will be safe.
Breaking ippatsu can be a thing that happens in certain situations but it's faaaaaaaaaar from being something that should be done often and nobody should do it or recommend doing it without a good understanding of when, why and how. Pon to break ippatsu against a dealer double riichi is like triple plus ungood.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:37:14 2018 No.18216563

>>18216366
>Breaking ippatsu is fine if you're confident your discard will be safe.
No it isn't. The problem especially with a pon like this is you now removed 2 safe tiles from your hand. If you are tenpai or have a ton of safety then you can consider it, but this is a bad play. Dealing in here basically guarantees 4th.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:42:02 2018 No.18216587 >>18216486 It really only just clicked in my head that it was the dealer so a ryuukyoku wouldn't help. Yeah, misjudgement on my part; keeping 2 genbutsu is better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:44:47 2018 No.18216610 >can easily spot mistakes when others play >proceed to play like shit myself

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 00:04:43 2018 No.18217239 2:0

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:02:51 2018 No.18217569 >>18216366 Toitoi san shoku dokou fanpai dora. That would've been even riskier though. I'd be happy enough to get anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:22:52 2018 No.18217633 Does the tenhou windows client still work? And are antivirus being a bunch of shitters calling it a trojan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 04:07:07 2018 No.18217978 >>18217633 Antivirus shouldn't be flagging it. They will often flag the crack, but that's because it's a crack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 05:22:21 2018 No.18218176 >>18217978 I've always been put off using the client because the crack comes up as dodgy. Am I being overly paranoid?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 05:28:58 2018 No.18218199 >>18218176 The HTML5 version works just as fine, you're not missing much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 05:55:38 2018 No.18218333 File: 99 KB, 609x506, 99fa8af660ab7ecc907050100d47e65f[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 15:53:54 2018 No.18228143 3:0

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 16:34:02 2018 No.18228397 >>18218176 AV a) suck dongs and are structurally incapable of functioning and b) flag pretty much all cracks no matter what

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 09:18:21 2018 No.18233314 >closed wait for 5 sou >draw three tiles of each 4,6,7 sou >third 4 sou discard, I deal into Kamichas closed 4 Sou wait Eat a dick

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 16:25:51 2018 No.18235460 File: 75 KB, 300x300, ogp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18211062 > understand this game No matter what, there is some facet to the game that is not understood. It is a quest to seek that understanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 18:08:31 2018 No.18235917 >>18233314 >closed wait Whose fault do you think this is anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 01:23:00 2018 No.18238032 File: 24 KB, 338x240, 0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the best arcade mahjong game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 10:21:01 2018 No.18239855 >>18235917 I wouldn't say anything it was just a loss but drawing all the tiles around it is just an insult. But I think I cracked it. If you mute the BGM in tenhou client, you anger the tiles. That must be it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 13:16:33 2018 No.18240687 >>18239855 I always have the BGM muted, no wonder I play so poorly!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 15:07:08 2018 No.18241224 I'm endlessly frustrated with this tenhou bullshit. what the fuck is the point of playing a game you only get rage from? I still like mahjong but I need a better alternative that this trash. anything out there or is this the only option?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 17:40:09 2018 No.18241890 >>18241224 You can go to the 雀荘 and lose money instead

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 00:35:12 2018 No.18243533 January was off to a good start. Now I've finished 4th 5 times in a row.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 01:24:53 2018 No.18243677 >>18079726 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 01:30:05 2018 No.18243690 File: 21 KB, 416x250, Dying.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18243533 Hey, let's throw some more in for good measure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 03:42:08 2018 No.18244040 >>18243690 Jesus. Take a walk man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 07:02:52 2018 No.18244579 File: 113 KB, 401x400, 1404668054210.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >2 people ron you at the same time >shit >it turns out to be fucking nothing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 09:49:44 2018 No.18245087 File: 23 KB, 349x344, 1482616739050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >3 tile wait >deal into a honor tile wait the turn after calling riichi

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 03:15:21 2018 No.18248667 >>18218199 I like to use the desktop client because you can customize the background (in a shitty way but whatever). Maybe there's some way to do that with the HTML5 version ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 12:51:53 2018 No.18250776 >yas卍 Which one of you fags is this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 14:06:27 2018 No.18251151 >>18250776 Isn't the backward swastika just a buddhist temple symbol in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 16:03:18 2018 No.18251841 >>18251151 Maybe, but he was also the toimen so maybe I'm mistaken. It's the combination with "YAS" that made me a bit suspicious

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 05:27:35 2018 No.18255543 3.0

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 05:55:57 2018 No.18255693 >>18255543 this again

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 22:47:26 2018 No.18261213 File: 68 KB, 200x200, 1507268760269.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2 glasses of whiskey makes mahjong fun Worrying about your placement, your R and your rank doesn't make mahjong fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 22:56:39 2018 No.18261238 File: 249 KB, 720x404, xcom.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18261213 this. Mahjong has made me drink more than any other irritant in my life aside from my kids

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 01:43:00 2018 No.18261942 >>18261213 >>18261238 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018012114gm-0009-0000-ec9e2c0c&tw=0 I'm not sure if I was in flow or just stupid. But only in the second to last round I started to become somewhat aware I still think I shouldn't have discarded the 1P

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 03:39:21 2018 No.18262368 File: 85 KB, 564x273, Screenshot_20180121-033535~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18243690 I hope that it has turned around for you, because I'm starting to fall into dispair.

Anonymous Sun Jan 21 09:30:28 2018 No.18263649
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>>18262368
I made a deal with a spider. I would spare its life should it give me luck.

It seems to have held up its share of the deal as the bullshit losses have stopped and my win rate has drastically improved...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 10:19:01 2018 No.18263894 >>18263649 IT'S A TRICK ANON, DON'T FALL FOR ITS LIES!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 14:26:02 2018 No.18265250 >>18263894 Fuck off, it just wants to make a web before spring starts and all those delicious flies/bugs start flying around

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 19:58:10 2018 No.18267126 File: 76 KB, 680x649, cc4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18265250

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 22 05:56:02 2018 No.18269295 File: 449 KB, 741x643, Hurr Durr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, what was kamicha here thinking?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 22 06:04:26 2018 No.18269330 >>18269295 >ippan He might as well have been a monkey whacking away at a computer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 22 12:43:04 2018 No.18270527 >>18269295 He just really wanted to see a yakuman happen. Ryuuiisou is pretty rare so dealing into it to make it happen is totally acceptable.

Anonymous Mon Jan 22 12:56:44 2018 No.18270579

Can someone watch my replay and tell me where and when I'm retarded so I don't curse my luck? I want to improve, but I know sometimes the game can literally "just hate you", so I'm not sure if it's me. It's probably me, right?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018011804gm-0009-0000-c7715457&tw=2

Anonymous Mon Jan 22 13:38:24 2018 No.18270721

>>18270579
Let me look into this, but the first thing I noticed was that you threw out the valued east wind instead of the non-valued north. It immediately backfired when you drew another one. It isnt awful play by any means, but the distinction could have made all the difference: you could have kept that pair, called a 3rd one and possibly win with a shit hand which would have blocked toimen's dealer mangan.

I'm going to look at a few more rounds, but keep this as a general example: massive/stupid mistakes typically arent the issue, it's those small inefficient choices that aren't that bad on the surface that come back to haunt you

Anonymous Mon Jan 22 14:04:51 2018 No.18270802

>>18270579
E1-2: didnt see anything overly wrong really, it's a bit hard to get a point across when you end up winning
E2: ok, there's a lot of poor choices here... Basically you had three pairs, the 1m dora, the 5p (aka), and the North wind. you again kept north over the much better 46m closed wait. Much like the above scenario, it backfired in a big way when you drew 5m. You could have been in tenpai right then and there.
keep in mind, even if the 5m hadnt come, you could have easily gotten 6m or 3m which would have upgraded your closed wait to an open one.
Then there were some really questionable calls following those errors. you were clearly off kilter and needed to bail instead of trying to dodge the noten penalty. I don't think you need to hear why the aka 5m was a poor choice, but seriously, know when to bail and you were clearly past that point in this case.

Anonymous Mon Jan 22 14:06:28 2018 No.18270805

>>18270579
E2: ok, there's a lot of poor choices here... Basically you had three pairs, the 1m dora, the 5p (aka), and the North wind. you again kept north over the much better 46m closed wait. Much like the above scenario, it backfired in a big way when you drew 5m. You could have been in tenpai right then and there. keep in mind, even if the 5m hadnt come, you could have easily gotten 6m or 3m which would have upgraded your closed wait to an open one.Then there were some really questionable calls following those errors. you were clearly off kilter and needed to bail instead of trying to dodge the noten penalty. I don't think you need to hear why the aka 5m was a poor choice, but seriously, know when to bail and you were clearly past that point in this case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 22 14:08:51 2018 No.18270810 sorry for the repeat posts, phoneposting bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 22 14:09:49 2018 No.18270814 sorry for the repeat posts, phoneposting bullshit

Anonymous Tue Jan 23 16:58:54 2018 No.18275245
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I can't fucking handle hands like these. That's way too many options for me. Go full/half flush? Pon as quickly as possible or try to go full ham on some high value hands with concealed pons?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 23 17:00:40 2018 No.18275254 File: 1.08 MB, 1076x1009, Discard2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18275245 What to discard now though

Anonymous Tue Jan 23 17:07:41 2018 No.18275300 [SPOILER]

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>>18275254
Oh, I forgot to mention that I ponned on 5man from toimen.

I thought 4man would be relatively save because both toimen and kamicha discarded 5man rather early. Toimen could also rather wait on high bamboo tiles. Oh boy how wrong I was.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 23 20:15:13 2018 No.18276519 >>18275254 I would cut the 8s cause if I'm gonna deal in, might as well do it before the hand actually reaches tenpai. Toimen seems like he'd be waiting on it. Seeing the other image though, it seems I'd have been fucked either way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 23 22:03:26 2018 No.18277254 >>18275245 I suck so don't take my advice but I would have dumped the 4pin right away because I know it would be troublesome to get rid of later

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 24 01:46:20 2018 No.18278383 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 24 03:14:01 2018 No.18278694 >>18277254 From that starting hand you wouldn't aim for a chinitsu? If I started there I would have dropped the red 5 turn one, so there's no turning back and to spook people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 24 19:23:01 2018 No.18282328 File: 383 KB, 733x626, Screenshot_8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sasami you got smacked

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 25 18:18:57 2018 No.18288231 File: 442 KB, 725x603, 1501513025053.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This fucking guy got his dumb hand to tenpai much faster than me and I started with a pair of 1m, ton, chun and hatsu. He had like one useless draw

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 26 06:13:47 2018 No.18290966 >>18288231 Even with a hand like this, there are times when it is necessary to change course.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 26 09:27:13 2018 No.18291867 >>18290966 Maybe but discarding the 1P at that point would've put me into furiten. Only one other 1P in the pond so I thought I might have a good chance at drawing it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 26 21:20:45 2018 No.18294944 File: 372 KB, 782x686, lim.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today was a good day. First game. http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018012710gm-0001-0000-32f99b6a&tw=0 scene 3

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 04:45:07 2018 No.18296546
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I dealt into some 1-2 han hands after calling riichi, some of those hands were boosted with dora tiles but whatever.
My last turn as dealer was crap (first got into tenpai but very obvious discards, second one was ~3 tiles away from tenpai).
Then I got a shitty hand but at least it had the wind tiles and some terminals
I dealt into a dealer mangan (tanyao + two dora + two akadora) afterwards.
At least I got the biggest bitch into last place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 08:42:59 2018 No.18297389 Why is the flash game kicking my arse? What the fug

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 09:07:00 2018 No.18297459 File: 424 KB, 726x600, 1497672535914.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should've gone for the honitsu. Went a bit retarded with my discards after deciding against it too Guess my placement >>18297389 Post some examples

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 19:03:21 2018 No.18305563

>>18147581
Any events to avoid? I'm trying to figure out what the EV is on some of these double dora/double akadora events and can't really work it out.

Also, sometimes ikkyokusen is replaced by a double up event, not sure how that works. It's sanma. I assume that it's a 1k bet with 60G fee, and then it pays out like:
1st: 2060
2nd: 500
3rd: 500
or is it just completely degenerate, like:
1st: 2060
2nd: 1000
3rd: 0?

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 19:26:40 2018 No.18305696

>18305563
On the subject of EV in Sega Mahjong, I originally thought that the video poker paytables looked favorable, but then I realized they only use one joker. I might do the calculations proper at some point, since if you have enough chips, you might actually be able to go infinite with perfect strategy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 03:16:52 2018 No.18307227 >>18079726 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 11:03:20 2018 No.18308503 >Ura-Dora: 5 Fuck you too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:40:31 2018 No.18309908 What is the secret to find players in 7447?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 18:38:02 2018 No.18310580 >>18309908 sex appeal

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 01:35:46 2018 No.18317823 >>18309908 You stalk them

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 12:40:38 2018 No.18320177
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The Tenhou timer really fucks me up when I'm trying to defend agaisnt two tenpais. I start freaking out while trying to identify the safest tile which leads me to ignore tiles that should have been obvious in favor of snap judgements based on incomplete kabe or partial suji.

I understand why it's needed but I really fucking hate it sometimes...

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 19:01:00 2018 No.18321926

>>18320177
My best tip to you is this: Don't wait until others have an obvious tenpai to start looking for safe tiles. It's difficult for beginners, but you really should be keeping track of all tiles others discard. I don't mean you need to memorize them, but you definitely should take not when others stop just cutting honors and start moving towards central tiles.

Another thing you should do at the beginning of each round is assess whether you're going to aim to complete your hand or not. There are many situations, depending on your current score, round and how shitty your starting hand is, where actually not trying to win a hand is for the best. If you're doing that, then from the very beginning you should start hoarding safer tiles (honor and terminals) and dropping more dangerous tiles (central tiles).

Those are two simple things you can do to improve your defense without applying any wait-reading strategies.

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 19:26:31 2018 No.18322014

>>18321926
Giving up on winning from the beginning of a round is almost never a good idea. It's guaranteed negative EV from tsumos and noten payments. The best way to avoid losing points is always to just win before anyone else does, and that's why hand building skills are so much more important than defense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 19:36:52 2018 No.18322063 >>18322014 It's not a negative if you know people are duking it out for the fastest, cheapest hand. Those rounds are most likely to end up with someone getting ronned.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 19:48:31 2018 No.18322116 >>18321926 >>18322014 this just underlines the complexity of the game and how decisions and playstyles differ wildly

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 20:09:11 2018 No.18322217 >>18322063 In the long run if you don't win hands you will only ever lose points, it's as simple as that. There's no way you can tell whether other players will win by ron or if they'll tsumo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 22:12:52 2018 No.18322803 When's the right time to go for kokushi musou? I've found myself going for it if I my starting hand has at least eight pieces and the rest of the hand has nothing going on for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 06:41:38 2018 No.18324627 >>18322803 http://osamuko.com/i-told-you-not-to-go-for-kokushi/

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:23:15 2018 No.18326152
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>Kamicha gets all the tiles I need to form my hand
>gets first place by a long shot
>I get fucking garbage draws and hands
>last place makes a great combat from 5k and I deal into his riichi on the fifth turn by discarding a fucking hatsu
At least he overtook that faggot kimocha

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 16:46:48 2018 No.18327111 >>18322803 Well, how desperate are you for a yakuman?

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:00:27 2018 No.18327184
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>get pissed at kamicha
>decide to play into shimochas obvious hand
>few points away from kamicha
>toimen calls riichi and that faggot decides to play like a fucking retard

Bitch, I trusted you

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:08:00 2018 No.18327214 >>18324627 >kyuushukyuuhai Am I an idiot for not knowing what this is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:19:57 2018 No.18327276 >>18327214 When your starting hand has nine or more unique terminals or honors you can declare an abortive draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 18:31:08 2018 No.18327539 Does anyone else get off sexually on dominating in ippatsu? I can just taste the other persons frustration as they constantly deal in. The fear that rises as they realise nothing is safe. It's like rape except with tiles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 19:14:17 2018 No.18327731 >>18327539 I'm the other guy that's pissed because his awesome hand didn't materialize

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 20:56:14 2018 No.18328151
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>>18327539
i think that ippatsu takame after declining damaten yasume is life itself

>>18305563
the double up event is actually really lucrative as long as you're lucky. basically, all players that have above the initial starting points win 1500 (minus the badai), while all players below this value lose 1500 (plus the badai). if you win, you have the chance to enter a table that was double your last initial bet, so it goes from 3000, to 6000, to 12000, etc, and after 8 consecutive wins you can get up to 192,000.

the other event is the gamble tables, which are basically tied to your end score. usually it's 1 point of score = 30 or 60, so for example, ending with +/-55 is +1650/-1650 (minus badai) by the former, 3300 by the latter. usually these incorporate shuugi chips, which is added to your end score on a 1 to 3 basis, so 5 shuugi is +15.

keep in mind these are sometimes using wareme, meaning whoever is the lucky/unlucky bastard to have their wall broken pays double for all hands and wins double for all hands (this is very fucking deadly because seganet sanma has no tsumo-son, so both other players split the value for the player who called tsumo's hand.) so for example, wareme dealer baiman tsumo is worth 48,000 total, 24,000 each from the other players. non-wareme dealer baiman is worth 36,000 (guy with his wall broken pays half of normal dealer baiman twice).

there's also extra dora rules (not used with wareme because it'd get fucking stupid really fast). 2x dora indicators, 2x akadora by themselves are common, sometimes you see baku-dora (which is both 2x dora indicators + 2x akadora), and sometimes you see dora-zou (which is bascially 1x dora indicators in the east, 2x in south, and east 1st has 1x aka, 2nd has 2x, 3rd has 3x, south 1st has 2x aka, 2nd has 3x aka, and 3rd has 4x aka). so if you end up getting to south 3rd, there's 16 dora tiles at start, with chance for more if kans are made.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 21:08:02 2018 No.18328197 I just tried that Sega Mahjong. I have no real idea what's going on, also feels a bit faster than tenhou. I also managed to get a chinitsu+toitoi hand and finished my first game in first place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 00:50:02 2018 No.18329075 >>18328151 Thanks for the info. I already planned on avoiding wareme like the plague. >0:8 party in 7447?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 06:20:26 2018 No.18330033 >>18328197 >also feels a bit faster than tenhou Well, the general game area is East only

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 10:12:18 2018 No.18330809 >>18330033 No, I meant the way rounds are played. Feels like I'm playing the fast modes on tenhou

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:16:43 2018 No.18331600 File: 85 KB, 775x540, IMG_20180202_101327.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!? thx for the win homie

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:35:36 2018 No.18331664 File: 110 KB, 1083x915, Daisangen - Tsuuiisou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18331600 It happened to me before. Some players get so buthurt at losing they just feed you whatever to fuck up the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:56:50 2018 No.18331731 >>18331600 See >>18331664 >>18327184 Sometimes the best win you can get is to deny someone else first place

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 14:10:54 2018 No.18331773 2:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 14:58:46 2018 No.18331985 >>18331664 That late into the game, I might also have taken the risk. Not much I could lose at that point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:02:12 2018 No.18332329 3:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:37:27 2018 No.18332540 File: 379 KB, 744x655, nagashi mangan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So this yaku actually exists huh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:45:40 2018 No.18332598 >>18332540 oh yeah, got it twice over the years

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 20:01:25 2018 No.18333700 File: 373 KB, 782x683, WTF111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There is always something new you can learn!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 21:24:45 2018 No.18334104 >>18332540 I wonder if he had that many tiles or just drew so many honor tiles that he got pissed >>18333700 NoNames are the biggest pieces of shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 14:24:12 2018 No.18337951 3:0

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 19:32:59 2018 No.18339311 >>18116598 What's wrong with her boobs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 20:00:08 2018 No.18339474 Does anyone else ever go back to old replays or watch other peoples games and try to guess peoples waits on riichis? I wonder if this sort of training would teach better defense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 20:01:16 2018 No.18339480 File: 984 KB, 480x360, MAHJONGISFUCKINGBULLSHIT.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 20:26:14 2018 No.18339645 >>18339480 That dead wall was made of some Saki bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 20:53:13 2018 No.18339792 >>18339480 Bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 21:10:58 2018 No.18339878 >>18339480 D@@@mmnnn

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 22:44:03 2018 No.18340259 >>18339480 good night, my sides

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 23:13:47 2018 No.18340399 >>18339474 Defense is not about what people are waiting on, it's about what they're not waiting on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 00:55:38 2018 No.18340751 >>18340399 That's retarded. If you know one you know the other.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 01:35:29 2018 No.18340870 >>18340399 Good man.

Anonymous Sun Feb 4 01:39:31 2018 No.18340886

>>18340751
The thing is, you can never know with certainty what someone is waiting on. You can, however, know with certainty what they're not waiting on, and you can also identify tiles that they're not likely to be waiting on. That's how you defend. You don't just look at the pond and say "he's waiting on 36p, so I can push anything other than that". You look at the pond and say "well he discarded this and that so there's no way he can ron me if I discard those, and because of this suji and that kabe it's not likely that he'd be waiting on these, and that other guy discarded that tile against him so that's safe too, and because that guy's pushing and with the point situation as it is and since I just drew this live 6p that has no indication of being safe then I'm better off just folding and letting them deal into each other".

Regardless of what Akagi says, real mahjong is not about being psychic, it's about playing the odds. What are the odds of dealing in? What are the odds of winning your hand? How big would your average gain or loss of points be? Given what round it is and how many points everyone has, what are the odds of placing first or second or third or fourth and how does your current rank affect how hard you should chase first or how desperately you should avoid fourth? That's mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 01:55:22 2018 No.18340947 >>18340886 Akagi wasn't about being psychic it was about leveraging the situation psychologically to your advantage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 03:28:43 2018 No.18341216 >>18079726 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 12:52:28 2018 No.18343676 >>18340886 >psychic = psychology

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 16:10:59 2018 No.18344612 next thread when

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 4 16:51:45 2018 No.18344810 >>18340947 >>18343676 No amount of psychology is going to tell you what tiles you're going to draw or what exactly your opponent is waiting on.

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