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I've been looking through martial arts I want to do, I was going to do Aikido a while back and forgot about it, then I met my current flatmate does Tae'Kwon'Do and a bunch of other various martial arts.

I'm interested in Aikido, though I'm worried about the "religious" aspects. There are bits of what I've read about Oomoto I like, the idea that humanity has to work together as one to progress, but other bits not so much.

I thought /jp/ might be a good place to ask about this.

I also like the idea of getting to dress up like Itoshiki Nozomu.

>> No.1804928

I did Aikido in college.

It was boring.

>> No.1804931

Ignore fairytale, learn fightan

>> No.1804933

Take a real sport, like wrestling. What's the matter, too hugging on the ground in tights for you?

>> No.1804945

Aikido is about 50 years old so there shouldn't be too much "religious" aspects. There isn't anything too religious in Japan to begin with. Aikido has more ceremonial stuff than for example judo but that's it. Depends on your teacher tough.

>> No.1804948

Aikido, as far as I'm aware, has a lower reputation in the marital arts community. Because it's a somewhat newer discipline, promotes nonviolence, and is almost exclusively reliant on counterattacks(which requires your foe to attack first, obviously giving them the advantage) and has never been used by a country's armed forces in a war. Compared to more deadly and offensive disciplines like Muay Thai, it's easy to see why.

Those are the only real complaints people have about it, though.

>> No.1804971

>>1804948

What other Martial arts would you recommend? I can punch fairly well, though my legs are't as co-ordinated as I like. I'm pretty tall and heavy(need to loose weight). Elbows and knees are a little difficult for me.

I'm hypermobile too so I'm a bit prone to injury.

>> No.1804973

Don't. Aikido is useless to fight.

>> No.1804987

>>1804922
Think of it like yoga but instead of getting sex with health-nut chicks at the end of it you get an excuse for having a mail ordered folded steel wall hanger.

>> No.1805003

>>1804948
It's not pressure tested, does not have full contact sparring, no fighter using Aikido ever step to the ring and proved if it works.

>> No.1805004

Real men learn Krav Maga.

>> No.1805011

>>1804971
Judo, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing. Bjj. Kyoukushin karate.
real fighting arts

>> No.1805014

>>1804971

For effectiveness in a 'real' fight: Muay Thai & Brazilian Jujitsu.

>> No.1805016

>>1805004
Straight men don't.

>> No.1805023

>>1805004
>Kikes learn Krav Maga.
Fixed

>> No.1805025

>>1804971
>Punch fairly well
>legs aren't coordinated
>need to lose weight
I'd suggest you take up boxing. You'll sweat like a pig, legs are used for positioning and shock absorption instead of attacking, and you'll learn how to actually punch.

If you do, I'd recommend finding some way to train your hip strength, as well.

>> No.1805026

First rule of self defense is don't be a dumbfuck and get into fights in the first place. It's not like once you get a black belt you all of a sudden start getting random encounters every few steps.

>> No.1805029

>>1805026
But how else will we level up?!

>> No.1805045

>>1804987

brb taking up yoga

>> No.1805052

You can do martial arts just for fun and exercise. No need to test it on the street. Things like self-confidence, posture, respect etc that keep you out of fights in the first place are probably thought in more depth in less "aggressive" martial arts like Iaido, Kendo, Aikido that concentrate on bushido.

>> No.1805065

>>1805026

I know, I'm mainly looking to get a bit fitter, personal development, learn to chill out etc. I'm at a fairly high risk of being attacked too so I'd rather learn to defend myself.

>>1805025

I'm not really all that interested in boxing. My kicks aren't great but I'd like to improve them.

I was wondering if maybe it would be a good idea to take it easy and start out with something like Tai Chi.

>> No.1805074
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>>1805065
>not really interested in boxing

>> No.1805073

>>1805026
Second rule is to run the fuck away at the first opportunity if you DO get into a fight. Even black belts get knifed.

>> No.1805080

Boxing isn't a martial art, it's a sport. Actually a lot of self-proclaimed martial arts aren't really martial arts.

>> No.1805077

>>1805065
>I was wondering if maybe it would be a good idea to take it easy and start out with something like Tai Chi.

I wouldn't recommend it. Take up something that you're interested in as you're more likely to stay with it and your physical condition will improve quicker than you expect.

>> No.1805085

Judo. be a total badass.

>> No.1805100

>>1804922
Musabetsu Kakutō Ryū

>> No.1805109
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1805109

Try Iaido. It's non-contact but you get to use a real sword. And despite how weeaboo that sounds it's actually fairly good exercise.

>> No.1805111

>>1804948
aikido has a bad rep with MMA people because it doesnt lend itself to sport fighting and it take decades to be good at. if you want an aikido without the spirital crap try tomiki aikido. some styles of aikido are very hippy like though.
most tradition Japanese martial arts are good. I would avoid bujinkan or anyone calling themselves ninja some are faster to learn than others just check out any school to make sure they are legit. there are alot of phonies out there. make sure they have a parent organization in japan

>> No.1805118

>>1805109
depends which style of iaido. if its just seitei iaido you should do kendo too.

>> No.1805123

Aikido
Aikido is the perfect art of self-defense. It does not need physical strength. A partner's power is used. When man operates, man takes a very unstable posture. If you are studying robotics, you will understand this. Aikido adds a minute interference to a motion of an enemy, and beats a partner.

Judo
Judo is a martial art supposing fighting with a collar and the enemy who came dress with a sleeve. If you live in the warm district, judo will not be not much battle-like. However, "Ukemi" defensive position of judo is very useful. You can protect the body now from the shock of an almost fatal level.
Existence of Ukemi makes judo useful also as a martial art also as a sport.

Karate
True karate is not a sport. Probably, it is the sport modification of karate which you study.

Tae'Kwon'Do
Tae'Kwon'Do is the South Korean modification of karate. If you are interested in the South Korean culture, tae kwon do will be promoted. Probably, you are absorbed in a kimchi after half a year.

>> No.1805128

>>1805118
Seconding this. Iaido and Kendo is a nice compination. Kendo for the exercise and reflexes, Iaido for the feeling, bushido and the sword.

>> No.1805126

>>1805118
>kendo

Enjoy having your achilles tendon snap. Worst fucking "martial art" ever.

>> No.1805140

>>1805126
You're doing it wrong then...

>> No.1805142

>>1805126
seitei iaido was developed for kendo. to teach kendoka to handle a sharp sword
i suspect alot of people here woudnt like it since it requires getting up off your ass. kendo may not be the best style of swordsmanship but its the easiest to find in america, and it was developed by real swordsmen.

>> No.1805154

>>1805140
>>1805142
Just about every strike in kendo involves pushing forward suddenly with the ball of the foot, straining the achilles tendon. It's not good for you.

Also it's about as relevant to a real swordfight as fencing.

>> No.1805160

>>1805154
its true that if you dont stretch properly it can happen. all physical activities have risk of injury.

it is true that the main kendo organization has moved away from real swordsmanship, but that's why axillary arts like seitei iai and seitei jo were developed. if you can find something more traditional thats great but good luck.

>> No.1805168

>>1805154
Compared to pretty much every other "martial art" mentioned here, the risk to hurt yourself is fucking low nonetheless.

>> No.1805186

>>1805080
Hahahah oh wow.

>> No.1805212

>>1805168
Most martial arts risk hurting yourself because your beating each other up and sometimes shit happens.

With kendo, you do the same repetitive strain on the same part of the body hundreds of times in a session. It's self-inflicted, not an accident.

>> No.1805227

Yo dawg, u need to learn how to beat other pussys who think they can do shit. Go learn ju-jutsu!
They think they win huh? BAAAM! counterattack they LOOSE!
Ye fuckers! I'm pointing at you Kick Boxers/Kung - fu /Krav Maga!

>> No.1805232

>>1805065 I was wondering if maybe it would be a good idea to take it easy and start out with something like Tai Chi.

I take Tai Chi, and unless you're planning on really committing to a Martial Art or your an old person doing it for your health, I wouldn't recommend it.

Tai Chi and any of the other two internal Chinese Martial arts take years before you can get it right and even decades before you can master it and use it as self-defense. And while Aikido is considered an "external" art, it's a "soft" external art. I suggest to try it before you actually go around here asking for advice. Most of what you'll get are just suggestions for other arts that will help you survive on UFC.

If you're doing it to get in shape, try it; if you're doing it for self-defense, still try it. Find something that you feel is the right one for you.

>> No.1805243

take boxing and buy a gun like a true american

>> No.1805258

I've been doing kempo for three years now, mixed with a tiny bit of muay thai and silat.

Kempo is so far my favorite - it's down to earth, doesn't require insane spinning kicks most of the time, and focuses on getting them down as quickly as possible.

Muay Thai...expect to be using your legs 99 percent of the time. Basically, your feet and your knees are like everything.

Silat involves using a piece of clothing to stop a knife or something most of the time, but I really doubt you'll find an actual silat teacher where you are. It's not common at all and people who teach it in the States only know the clothing defense side of it, which is maybe about 5 percent of the art.

>> No.1805264

>>1804922

OP, try google next time.

www.wikihow.com/Choose-a-Martial-Art

>> No.1805299

There's a lot of variation in how aikido is taught. I don't know what the ratio of martial arts to dancing schools is, but if you can find a place that emphasizes technique and practices with (limited) resistance it's a lot of fun.

>> No.1805313

spread love, not hate & violence

>> No.1805357

in concept i would say akido is the coolest fight'n style EVAR; however, i'm sceptical that it would work except when being performed by 90 year old masters in vidya games

>> No.1805564

>>1805357
aikido is good if your willing to put in the years and train with one of the less hippy styles

>> No.1805640

>>1805313
>Spread love of hate through violence

>> No.1805663

Aikido is like Judo, only it doesn't work except on cooperative partners. Judo is actually useful in a real fight.

>> No.1805666

Just go to bullshido.net. They'll tell you everything you ever wanted to know, along with some you probably didn't.

I took hapkido for ten years and enjoyed it. Judo is probably the most fun to learn. If you're looking for something that'll let you wreck people, however, learn Brazilian jujustu.

>> No.1805718

>>1805666
that site is funny but its also crap

>> No.1805771
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>>1804945

>There isn't anything too religious in Japan to begin with.

>> No.1806927
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>>1805771
That's right. They don't go in for it, much. They just go through the motions to make the old and the retarded feel better.

>> No.1806943

>>1805771
The older generation Japanese are religious. Now they are just cultural.

>> No.1806957

>>1806927
Not sure where this chart came from, as it's totally opposite of what opinions I received while there. roughly 80% of people I knew would say they were Shinto.

Not that it changes the fact that most pop into a shrine, throw a coin and leave. Most of the younger generations don't even know of the Shinto holidays or practices past that. The nation as a whole is more concerned with karaoke.

>> No.1806970

>>1806957
The source of the chart is at the bottom of the image.
Shinto is more like a very elaborate series of folk practices and superstitions than a full religion. It can be practices concurrently with regular religions, like Buddhism.
Also, 建前.

>> No.1806971

>>1806970
I'm just saying, those people consider it to be their religion, no matter how loosely tied together it is lol.

>> No.1806982

>>1806971
No, they ｓａｙ that they consider it their religion to foreigners and strangers who ask because they don't feel strongly enough about it to bother standing out.

>> No.1807698

>>1806982
...what?

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