DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #1862

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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>17931413

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新スレお疲れちゃま

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What's his endgame?

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>>17948032
Become a LingQ billionaire.

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>>17948032
誰？

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Has anyone got a complete wanikani anki deck? The one on the ankiweb is missing quite a lot. I don't want to abide by its forced pacing

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>>17948032
who is this pedophile?

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I can never remember the reading of 漢字.

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>>17948142
It's kanji.

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I asked an artist something over pixiv, and their reply is little more than I can understand.

返答遅くなりまして申し訳ありません。絵の委託制作とは、具体的にどういった内容になりますでしょうか。

Other than "sorry for the late reply", can you tell me what they're saying?

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djt, how long did it take you to be able to read manga/light novels comfortably?

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>>17948032
Flossing, hopefully.

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>>17948158
1000 hours

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>>17948153
どういった = どのような = what sort of

You should be able to understand with that.

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My mature retention isn't quite where I'd like it (~75%)

As I see it I could correct this by lowering the starting ease, which would increase my review time by a good amount each day, when I already don't have enough time to read as it is. Or I could leave it alone and let the failed cards correct themselves through the re-learn process. Please throw an opinion at me.

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>>17948190
So, he's basically actual what kind of content I want in the drawing I'm commissioning?

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>>17947960
Enough with the generic illustration op images. This is djt so make it djt related or don't create the thread at all.
Just because it was moved to /jp/ doesn't mean everything should be thrown out and you'd fucking do well to remember this is an /a/ thread, so keep the /jp/ shit out of it.

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>>17948211
Kill yourself narcissist.

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>>17948203
How many cards are you adding per day, and are you spending long enough on each card and making a concentrated effort to remember them?

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Minna no Nihongo just arrived in the mail. Planning to go through it with a local tutor. What should I expect from the book?

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>>17948238
Mira san

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>いつからそうしますたか
>いつからそんなことをしますたか
Is either one of these an acceptable way of asking someone when they started doing a long term activity that's still going on? Or should it be in present tense or are both completely wrong?

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Is it fun, being a freelance translator?

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>>17948260
yes

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>>17948260
If someone has to pay you to keep doing it, it's probably not fun

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>>17948260
No.

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>>17948252
First of all you've made a type in past tense, しました not しますた.

But both are bad, past test is only used when the activity is fully in the past, in other words if it has concluded.

You want ている form. And you don't need そう. And you don't want to say そんなこと in that kind of context, as it sounds a bit aggressive, as if you are asking why they would do such a thing.

いつからしています？

Relevant example sentence: http://jisho.org/sentences/518663f0d5dda7e981000d75

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>>17948325
Thank you.

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>>17948233
20 or so, and no, I'm always trying to get them out of the way so I have more time to read.

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>>17948238
Expect to learn conjugations by doing 30 exercises and needing your tutor to explain everything, including directions

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How do you guys texthook now considering that Yomichan doesn't work for it

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>>17948260
Nothing is fun. Money is just to prolong existence.

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>>17948383
>considering that Yomichan doesn't work for it

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>>17948238
Please read Tae Kim's first 5 lessons or so before using those books, and learn the verbs in their dictionary form as a base form and not the masu stuff they'll forcefully push through the first 10 chapters or so (or if you go with the vocab lists, all the way up until the second book), otherwise it makes it harder to conjugate verbs later and cross-referencing with other sources is a mess.

Aside from that I do like how it used to fuck around with their characters, like

>>>/wsg/1990025

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>>17948383
I don't, cause I'm not a DJT EOP.

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>>17948420
クソワロタ

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>>17948383
I use Rikaisama like always.

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I still don't understand when to use が as an identifier particle.

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>>17948546
考えるな
感じろ

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>>17948238
>buying textbooks
>hiring tutors
Great way to waste money. Terrible way to learn Japanese.

Good job.

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>>17948383
>ロマnジ

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i can't find anything on US google about this sorry to ask in advanced:
○四八四○
This is used in chapter 4 of FMA manga. Is it a curse word or something?

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>>17948562
Are you sure it's not literally just the numbers 484? Like "item #484" or some shit like that?

Would help if you posted the page.

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>>17948562
what do you expect posting only 5 characters here?

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>>17947960
neither rikaichamp nor yomichan offer the same versatility of rikaisama.

why do these lesser things exist when rikaisama made the benchmark for this?

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whew
N1 in 7 days later,
what are some good resource to let me go thru complete N1 vocab and grammars in a week?

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おはようおにいちゃん

さむいー

きおん６℃

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>>17948206
Well, not "basically," that's just spot on

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>>17948650
7 days of cramming won't make a difference. If you can't already pass it, you won't be able to pass it in 7 days either. So just relax.

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>>17948679
おはよう〜

さむさはどう？すきか？いやだか？

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>>17948692
i'm feeling quite confident, but still i need to atleast have a quick look on the whole scope
not that i'm starting all the learning ffrom now on

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>>17948718
If you need a grammar refresh I'm pretty sure you're fucked

Rough vocab lists are pretty widely available though, most decent 英和 dictionaries should have them for all levels up through N1

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>>17948708
さむいのもたのしい

おふろがさいこう

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関西弁でさ、おもろいことあんやん
「てん」は過去形も現在形になるんで、「ねん」は強意も現在形になるんやで
いや本気やで、例えば
「昨日めっちゃ背の高い兄ちゃんおってん」（過去形）と「今友達の所に行ってんねん」（現在形）
別の活用形もあんやけど、「たん」（過去形）とか「とる」（現在形）とかもあんな
他にもいろいろな表現に接尾辞をくっつけられるで、「飴ちゃん」とか「おはようさん」とかな

関西弁ではな、空は限度やねん！だからおもろいやな！
学習すれば学習するほど、俺ん関西弁への愛が増えてんわ

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>>17948726
how fucked am i though...
anyway i can also learn from mandarin material
incase you knew some...

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>>17948745
ヒップスターではない、マシは関西ヲタクと呼ぶ方・・・なのか？

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はあああ
腹は精液で一杯
げぼ
この味は最高だ

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>>17948791
関西弁オタクと呼んだらホンマええやで～
やってヤバいほど愛してんわ

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How bad is this? I started kinda seriously like a week ago in core2k but I can't seem to remember any kanji at all. I always forget it in an hour or so or when I wake up, but that may be due to me starting late at night when im really sleepy and starving. I also haven't read past Tyler Kim's first lesson of grammar yet.

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>>17948810
さすがは関西弁のキモオタだw

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>>17948822
キモオタってちょいとやりすぎんやけど別にかまへん

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>>17948817
>starting late at night when im really sleepy
That's the worst thing you could do. There was a study somewhere that memory retention is lower if you're lacking sleep.
Too lazy to look for it so google it if you want to read more on it.

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>>17948817
>one week
>about 140 learned
never done cards and not sure what all those stats mean but it sounds good to me desu

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>>17948830
Not entirely true. Lacking sleep makes it harder to learn, but also memories consolidate during sleep so you're much less likely to forget something if you sleep (and therefore consolidate the memory) right after.

Unless we're talking sleep deprivation this is actually probably an okay strategy. Might be better to start a little earlier, but even so.

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>>17948682
Okay, good to know. Thank you.
Guess I understood it better than I thought.

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Is reading/pronunciation really supposed to be on the back of the card?

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>>17948862
Yes.

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>>17948862
It's so you can look at one side and try to recall the other without looking, so yes, ideally

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Anyone here has had the experience of learning japanese while also learning another language?

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>>17948874
Yes. I ended up quitting both.

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>>17948874
Someone had bright idea of teaching 5th graders (whos native language wasn't either of these) English and French simultaneously, on different days though. I don't remember shit about French after half a year of study.

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>街の有力者は、みんな金持ちだ。俺もいつか金持ちになってやる！
あ、このゲームの「Republican」という者か？

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>>17948679
>６℃
それはさむいのうちにはいらない

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>>17948901
Can't tell what you're saying here

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>>17948908
It's advanced Japanese only いもうと can understand

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>>17948897
same here, only I had to endure 5 years of it

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>>17948918
No, your grammar is just lacking

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>>17948936
It's completely grammatical. You don't know Japanese.

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「それは寒いの家には要らない」てやんな？
それとん「寒いの内には」かな？

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>>17948949
それはさむいの
うちには要らない

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>>17948960
俺ん言うてんことより分かりにくいやんけ！？
負けてしもうたやん

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>>17948940
First up, さむいのうち is a mess. You took an adjective, then tried to use it as a noun. It sounds dumb and no one would actually say that--not even idiomatically.

Second, いらない I'm going to guess is coming from 居る, which in the first place is uncommonly used for abstract concepts like "cold" and further if you're just trying to negate something you can just say ない and drop the verb.

I don't know if you "know Japanese," but if you do, you know the Ebonics version.

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>>17948968
>First up, さむいのうち is a mess
That's because they didn't say that.

You don't know Japanese.

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>search 触手 in google to see if it really can mean antenna like the kenkyusha dictionary says
>nothing but hentai tentacle porn

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Japanese is written without any punctuation or spaces between independent clauses all the time. You should know this.

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>>17948976
>they
S a m e f a g .

Anyway, again.

>>17948960
>それはさむいの
>うちには要らない
This still makes zero sense. Now you have a perfectly alright first sentence and a second one which doesn't follow.

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>>17948968
I'm gonna take a guess that it was supposed to be それは寒いの、家に入らない and she wants her oniichan to finally freeze to death, as he obviously slept outside.

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>>17948980
google results are personalized

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>>17948981
Oh, I'm sorry, I rarely have any difficulty understanding natives and yet some gaijin on 4chan just sounds like a mess, I wonder why I assume he's an idiot.

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>>17948976
恥をしれ。しかるのち死ね。

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>>17948987
>S a m e f a g .
lmao
How can you be this insecure?

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>>17948987
>Now you have a perfectly alright first sentence and a second one which doesn't follow.
Second one makes perfect sense and there are tons of literal google results for that exact phrase.

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>>17948980
I belive it can mean antenna in the context of animals, as in the antennas on the head of an insect

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>>17948994
I don't think that will have any impact. The only Google I use is google.co.jp to occasionally search Japanese words/expressions which either don't show up in dictionaries or whose definitions leave me feeling a bit uncertain.

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>>17949007
>doesn't follow
I didn't say the second sentence is internally inconsistent, I said it doesn't follow. Learn to read.

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>>17948999
あなたよ諦め
恥なんてありえないんだ

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>>17949016
It does follow. They put it right next to the other one. There is nothing ungrammatical at all about having two unrelated independent sentences next to each other.

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>>17948397
Yomichan doesn't work when i open a html file for the texthooker.

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>>17949020
He was obviously trying to say "That doesn't enter the category of cold." This is obvious to anyone without crippling autism.

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>>17949020
"There is nothing ungrammatical"
Learn to read. In the first place, putting two "unrelated" sentences in the same post doesn't make sense.

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>>17949031
>He was obviously trying to say "That doesn't enter the category of cold."
Are you trolling or just retarded?

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>>17949034
>>17948936
>No, your grammar is just lacking

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>>17949038
I'm sorry that your brain damage prevents you from understanding human communication in any language. You should probably consult with a neurotypical person before you embarrass yourself by trying to argue anything here.

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>>17949031
If that was what he was trying to say, which is what I assumed, his grammar is shit.

You guys need to pick one, because right now it just sounds like you're trying to defend an idiot foreigner because you're 1) also foreigners and 2) probably also idiots.

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>>17949017
It's been ten minutes and nobody has pointed out that vocative particle scrambling is not allowed when the vocative particle is inside a clause-final imperative verb.

>>17949047
Nobody with poor enough grammar to try to write that that way would ever try to use "uchi" as a group of things satisfying a quality and "iranai" as to not enter that group. You're putting your benefit of the doubt in exactly the most hostile places.

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>>17949049
I wasn't defending him. Of course his grammar is shit. But the fake linguist retard here will never accept that because his mental deficiencies go far deeper than simply not knowing Japanese.

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>>17949053
Sorry, five minutes. Anyway, don't trust DJT to say anything about whether grammar is correct or not, unless it's incredibly basic!

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それは寒いの内に入らない
This is a perfectly natural sentence.

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>>17949040
>I am incapable of keeping up with a basic conversation on the Internet, if Person A changes their claim, and Person B makes a new argument in response, my brain melts and I have to stim for hours

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>>17949060
Please direct me to the location where that happened, because it didn't.

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>>17949059
This.

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Stop fighting, you fucking monkeys.

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>>17949059
"寒いの内"

is bad grammar. And you could still negate it without a verb.

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when your japanese is so bad that perfectly normal sentences seem like they have bad grammar just because they're not written with kanji

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>>17949079
>"寒いの内"
>is bad grammar.
That phrase doesn't exist in that sentence. The left and right parts of your quoted phrase are not connected to each other.

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>>17949081
Good lord, who invited facebook here?

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>>17949081
>just because they're not written with kanji
Who need kanji anyway, Japanese is perfectly legible with kana alone.

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>>17949085
Either it's connected or it doesn't follow. Pick one.

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>>17949096
it's not connected and it does follow

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>>17949096
Neither.
それは寒いの
That's cold, so
内に入らない
I won't go inside

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>>17949099
"It's not connected and it is connected"

I'm just going to pray that when this thread hits the bump limit the trolling will stop.

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>>17949103
Are you literally so bad at Japanese that you can't tell the difference between syntax and meaning?

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喧嘩だけしたらdjt/intに行きべきと思いますがふたりとも

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>>17949101
"That's cold, so I won't go inside" is the definition of not following.

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>>17949110
You couldn't be more wrong.

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>>17949105
A fair chunk, probably most, native Japanese speakers couldn't answer that question. They also speak fluent, dare I say native level, Japanese.

This is what happens when you're an arrogant foreigner trying to play expert on a language you learned out of a textbook.

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>>17949106
「喧嘩は/int/でやれ」
という言い方もいいかも
短くて分かりやすい

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>>17949115
Not being able to explain something doesn't mean you can't tell the difference.

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>>17949112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)

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>>17949106
>行きべきと思います
行くべきだと思います*

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Holy fuck.
それは寒い（という概念）の内に入らない
It has nothing to do with going inside.
If you can't parse such a basic sentence, should you really be sitting here lecturing people on proper grammar?

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>>17949121
"That's cold, so I won't go inside" is not a non-sequitur.

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>>17949126
Hey now, I'm trying to drag them through the mud as long as I can, it's easier if I let them misunderstand the sentence.

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適当に日本語を使うことはそんなに難しいことではないな

これいつまで続けれるんだろう

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>>17949126
You're in the land of N3-bound DJT EOPs.

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>>17949122
I would have made that correction, but of course I was pulling up Google results to back it up because apparently if I point it out here a stampede of white people will tell me how autistic I am.

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>>17949126
That is how I parsed the meaning and in that case it's bad grammar.

I mistook 入らない for は居らない but in either case it's bad grammar.

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>>17949141
It's not bad grammar, you're just bad.

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>>17949136
You're in the land of N3-bound DJT EOPs, after all.

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僕全然加わらへんやけど上の話ちょいとアホしいやんけ
それより眠くなったのでそろそろ寝るべきやんな
おやすみさん、みんな

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>>17949143
Using an adjective as a noun is bad grammar.

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>>17949150
Do you know what の does?

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>>17949059
>>17949085
お前はやっぱり有能の語学者だね
あり得ないことをあり得そうに出現させるなんて、まるで魔法使いみたい

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>>17949149
This always looks so fucking tryhard.

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>>17949155
And in that case you're jamming 内 right next to a noun without a の. Which is bad grammar.

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>>17949119
>>17949122
すまん。日本人ぽく話し方がまだ慣れないよ。I think up of what I have to say and literally just transliterate it. I don't know any better.

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>>17949163
It's not, because that's not what it's doing.

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>>17949169
Someone needs to ban you so you can stop samefagging on fifteen sides of the argument and thinking you're cute.

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>>17949178
Pretty sure I'm not doing that, dude.

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>>17949167
大丈夫、みんな勉強中だし

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This is too nuanced, can we go back to the sakubi cunt arguing that it's two separate sentences and "it's cold so I won't go inside" makes sense

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>>17949161
わっしもゲイ、非常に

男の人のお尻から漏らしたことが食べますです

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>>17949182
どっちもしれない。うるさいから黙ろう。

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>>17949190
this is what schizotypal paranoia looks like

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>>17949141
Conjugating 居る（いる） to 居らない is bad grammar. You can imagine a pair of brackets enclosing 寒い if you want.

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>>17949001
>what is Paint/GIMP/whatever the hell it is you're using

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>>17949095
wrong

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>>17949210
そういうこともしれない。静寂になる。

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>>17949214
You're a fucking idiot.

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>>17949221
No, it is, that's why kanji were adopted and are taught aggressively in schools despite being a pain in the ass which take nearly a decade to teach.

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>>17949095
Holy shit, it's this guy again. Go back to /int/.

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>>17949232
we don't want him either

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>>17949169
what the hell are you on about, it is exactly what you're doing

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why is this place so hostile?

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>>17949244
It's definitely not.

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>>17949242

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>>17949245
this place is pretty chill unless something disrupts the generally perceived order of things
so basically autism

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>>17949135
>N3 EOP
U literally wat

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>>17949248
>それはさむいのうちにはいらない

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>>17949259
>>17948981

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>>17949260
I've never read any serious literature where they would do something like that. Hell, I never saw a 2ch post or a tweet written like that either. People usually write the way others would understand. You could try it out sometime.

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The autists are out in force trying to argue their way to fluency again, I see.

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>>17949259
>>17949260
now it's bad grammar and a crippled sentence
congratulations

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>>17949021
It still works for me on Firefox 56, so it probably got broken with the Firefox 57 update. The Yomichan page has this for Chrome:
>Is it possible to use Yomichan with files saved locally on my computer with Chrome?
>In order to use Yomichan with local files in Chrome, you must first tick the Allow access to file URLs checkbox for Yomichan on the extensions page. Due to the restrictions placed on browser addons in the WebExtensions model, it will likely never be possible to use Yomichan with PDF files.
maybe firefox needs something similar now

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>>17949271
異議あり！

裁判に示したことは現実の全て！

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>>17949257
You.

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>>17949186
わぁ、優しく言ってる名無しさんは素敵なの

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>write one sentence in kana
>check back later
>spawned a massive argument
In case you were still wondering, it's それは寒いの内に入らない and it is grammatically correct

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>>17949323
下げる
下げる
いつもいつも
下げすぎるのは可能もないし
下げってる

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>>17949323
Are you still trying to samefag? I bet all of the posts related to this sentence written without quoting anyone (like >>17948981 and >>17949081) are yours, so stop pretending.

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>>17949342
Go away.

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>>17949344
は…速い！

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>>17949344
>mfw he thinks the current status of tracking cookies proves anything

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>>17948901
Cute imotougana

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949357
>妹仮名

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>>17949357
imoutogana refers to this >>/jp/thread/S16664303#p16665065

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>>17949357

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>>17949323
you can either choose if it's grammatically incorrect or just bad form

>それは寒いの
this is a grammatically false statement
correct would be それは寒いなの or それは寒いのだ

alternatively, it's meant as a question それは寒い?? and the next sentence needs to be separated

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>>17949366
My brain is ful of fuck

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>>17949385
>correct would be それは寒いなの

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>>17949385
When you don't know Japanese but insist on posting about it anyway

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>>17949385
this is simply so fucking ethnic holy shit..... you are truly a grammar god thank you my tomodachi gomen gomen

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>>17949385
の is a perfectly fine sentence ender which you can tack on after an adjective all you like

if you're a girl

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>>17949386
I don't get this meme either.

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>>17949391
>tomodachi
>not tomodati
>also, /pol/ insults
and this is how you know you can't take the people in this thread seriously.

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>>17949399
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/144251848/#144294834

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>>17949385
See >>17949126
He actually understands it. The の is perfectly fine as it is

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>>17949385
holy fucking shit stop posting already, you are embarrassing yourself

「寒い」の内 'the inner bounds of 「cold」'
に
入らない 'does not enter'

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>>17949390
>>17949391
>>17949392
それは寒いの as an explanatory statement is just shit grammar
you can save it by trying to make it girly or phrasing it as a question

>>17949418
this doesn't make any sense at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949423
>それは寒いの as an explanatory statement is just shit grammar

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949391
I agree with my tomodachi here gomen for bad nihongo kudasai

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949406
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949425
just the way it is, it's not my fault that you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949418
still grammatically incorrect foreigner bullshit

source: google shows one (1) result for "寒いの内" on a japanese website

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949435
It sure must suck to be so wrong and think you're right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949436

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949438
you tell me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949423
それは
寒いの内に
入らない
Stop cutting it at the wrong place and it might make some sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949435
>>17949436
haha epic my nakamas (translator's note nakama means inside interval)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949436
឴

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949439
Two of those don't show up for me and "three" isn't a hell of a lot better.

I found thousands of results for a mangled phrase I spat out which made this guy streaming some RTS on ニコニコ repeat the words like three times and then pretend he didn't read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949445
>two groups arguing about grammar in a sentence
>they both have two different interpretations of what it's actually supposed to mean
I love this place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949452
"people on twitter use bad grammar"

you don't say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949445
>寒いの内に
then try googling that in quotes

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949454
didn't work on my pc tm

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949462
>I have no argument so I will link to the post and hope no one notices I didn't respond

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949458
it's more like one guy shitposting hardcore and trying to ever justify that さむいなの could ever be correct but that さむいのうち..（略） is wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949459
Because you, as an N1 gaijin on a Mongolian macrame forum know better, yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949458
One group is correct, the other one isn't

Which one is which?

[Anonymous No.]

no one here understands Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949467
It's pretty hard to argue with single celled organisms you fucking korean

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody who thinks that なの can connect to さむい should be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949473
You can only find more than 3 results (in the past twenty-ish years from over a hundred million people) for it on a site which deliberately restricts how many characters you can have in a post.

I wonder why. Does /pol/-san know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949478
They're both wrong. You're supposed to convert the kana in the original sentence to a particular set of kanji and read it as Chinese. No one noticed it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949492
And this is bad grammar too, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949500
TIL 寒い is the proper noun name of a Linux distribution used by fewer than one percent of the Japanese population.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949500
Is this bait?

[Anonymous No.]

>それは寒いの内に入らない
- 寒い here indicates the concept of "cold", not "cold" itself. Think of it as 「寒い」 rather than 寒い.
- This can also be phrased as 寒いに入らない while carrying the same meaning. Google that and you'll find more than 3 results. You can also try it with other 形容詞.
- Why not go study some Japanese instead of trying to rationalize your inability to understand a simple sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949509
Literally the entire thread has been trolling since the moment someone decided to post with shit grammar.

>>17949510
>This can also be phrased [with less shit grammar] while carrying the same meaning... and you'll find more than 3 results.
You don't say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949517
>You don't say.
it's obviously meant as sarcasm dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949517
If you think the original sentence is grammatically shit because it uses 寒い as a noun (which it doesn't), then you should feel the same way about 寒いに入らない.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949526
No, because using 「から」や「に」や「へ」など with adjectives is common practice.

[Anonymous No.]

この馬鹿なの
ウチには要らない

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949550
私が君には要らないか

さぁ

当然だよな

私は

そう

ですね

[Anonymous No.]

じゃあ、失礼します。
あんまり喧嘩しないで下さい、そして相談の相手の気持ちを大切にしましょう。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948643
I don't know what 'versatility' you're after from yomichan
it shows the definition, imports with fine with glossary-brief and the non shit blank template

All I'd like is the popup background to be darker, thats it

[Anonymous No.]

When do I start learning vocab? Tae Kim's guide uses quite a few kanji and I still haven't bothered to memorize them. For example: 今日は雨だ。昨日も雨だった。I have no idea what the fuck these kanji are. Should I memorize these as I go and slow down learning grammar or ignore them and learn it later?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949585
>asking legitimate learning questions in /jp/'s DJT
Can you not see that this DJT is a front for pure autism? If you really want to learn Japanese, ask your questions over at /int/'s DJT, which actually is a Japanese language learning thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949585
you should do the core2k anki deck first
but before you do anything you should definitely read the guide carefully

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949585
If you were using Sakubi you would know what to do with vocab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949596
>shilling for /int/'s DJT
Do you guys even know what kanji are, let alone learn them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949596
>/int/'s DJT, which actually is a Japanese language learning thread
If only. It's too dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949601
oh boy, here we go again

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949544
>No, because using 「から」や「に」や「へ」など with adjectives is common practice.
You still don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949510
btw the concept of cold is 寒さ

寒さの内に also doesn't show many results but coincidentally it shows considerably more than 寒いの内に

including in newspapers

だから以上だ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949606
Maybe if you people stayed in your own thread instead of jumping on arguments in this one it wouldn't be so dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949606
It actually isn't. The thread sometimes dies, but that's because the board gets more traffic than /jp/. The number of posters is roughly the same as here.
>>17949604
See >>17949601
You guys are the representatives of the worst Japanese grammar guide in the world. Plus, why would /int/ be the ones who aren't aware of kanji when you guys have been arguing for about 2 hours about a kana-only sentence? Delusional isn't just a river in Egypt mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949632
>You guys are the representatives of the worst Japanese grammar guide in the world.
I've never seen someone be this mad for so long just because they were trolled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949632
>The number of posters is roughly the same as here.
I wouldn't say that, when the /int/ one has let's say 50 posters then this one has at least +80
but yea, the board is much faster

[Anonymous No.]

Post poetic/beautiful words.
雲居
蒼穹
瞬き

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949632
The /int/ thread has gotten 30 IPs in 11 hours. This thread has gotten 50 IPs in 7 hours 20 minutes. It's time to stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949632
>You guys are the representatives of the worst Japanese grammar guide in the world.
良い感じです.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949644
星屑
泡沫
囀り

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949644
闇雲
無くなる
理不尽
星空

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949644
>蒼穹
I really like it. In most LNs it's usually without furigana, pretty rare for something composed of two jinnmeiyou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949645
Half of those are from the same Anon though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949639
>>17949645
Your bump limit is higher than /int/'s, and half the people on this DJT are obviously autistic trolls. I'll take less users and more quality posts any day.
>>17949635
t. Sakubi shill

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949670
>IPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949672
>Your bump limit is higher than /int/'s
Doesn't matter. More unique IPs in less time means that a thread is more alive in every capacity, as long as it does not have fewer posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949673
It's the autist who thinks someone would bother reseting their IP after every post

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949644
輝く
閃く
光
etc.

>>17949665
Huh, I could swear 蒼 was 常用.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949684
I know it because I looked at all the kanji for あお after seeing the title for 碧の軌跡

I don't think I've seen it much otherwise, so it doesn't surprise me it's not 常用

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949644
巨根
筋肉
淫乱
勃起

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949698
It seems to be the most common one for あお, at least. Other than 青, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949675
それにしても、スレを自閉症児の喚きで生かせるっては別にいいことじゃないだが

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949713
二番という地位は一番の負け者の地位。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949707
where are
肛門
直腸
浣腸

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949707
>>17949721
そうだな

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949610
>it's understandable so it's good
There are roughly one to two ways to say any given common phrase. If you say anything else, you sound like a massive fucking foreigner.
If someone asks you, "may I be given water?", they are clearly understood and have made no grammatical mistake, but they are still fucking dekinai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949744
"Might I procure some water?"

wouldn't make you sound like a foreigner, but it would make you sound like a tryhard or someone out of a period film.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949744
not him
saying strange but grammatically correct things isn't dekinai, it's just a lack of exposure

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949744
Why don't you go ask a native if it is actually strange

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949744
It only sounds wrong when you fail to use an idiomatic phrase where one exists. Not when you say something uncommon in general.

[Anonymous No.]

Please stop trying to revive an argument その馬鹿派がすでに負けた。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949644
断末魔

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone explain when to use が? I seriously don't understand the difference between that and は.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949860
Are you in a position where you need to use it? Can you understand it when it's used in a sentence?

If "no" to the first and "yes" to the second, there's no problem. Don't waste time worrying about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949878
>If "no" to the first and "yes" to the second, there's no problem. Don't waste time worrying about it.
Okay.
I know what it is and can understand it but when someone asks when to use it, like in TaeKim's practice stuff then I just get confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949886
Can you replace the particle with "as for"？If yes then it is wa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949860
が is

1) Not as strong as は, which is relatively emphatic and draws attention to whatever it marks

2) Can be used for possessives, particularly in fixed phrases and most often at the start of sentences (common with things like 我が国 and so forth)

3) Occasionally uses the reverse noun relationship of は (marking the object instead of the subject)

Mostly you should read and you'll get the hang of it, the most important thing to remember is "can be possessive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949916
>3) Occasionally uses the reverse noun relationship of は (marking the object instead of the subject)
は does this far more often than が. Please don't try to give people advice. You're just regurgitating beginner's lies stated by introductory grammar guides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949860
When the identification of the subject is more important than the action.
For example, if a bird suddenly flew into your house, and you were telling somebody about it
>鳥は家に入っちゃった
is wrong
>鳥が家に入っちゃった
is correct
Things enter the house all the time, what's important is the fact that its a bird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949920
It's funny because I've never read a grammar guide.

Wait, did I say funny? I meant how many IPs do you have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949932
>It's funny because I've never read a grammar guide.
It's funny because I never said you did, just that that's where that idea comes from.

>Wait, did I say funny? I meant how many IPs do you have.
Only one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949925
Would the first sentence be possible if it were some long abandoned building, or completely walled off, i.e. a case where it's more important that something entered the house?
Or would you have to start the sentence with 家?

[Anonymous No.]

How do I talk like a normal person and not an anime character?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949950
learn 文語

[Anonymous No.]

ありがとうございました

>>17949950
The only times anime characters don't talk like normal people are really obvious. Things like using fixed sentence-enders and using obscene other-person pronouns like きさま and やろう in situations where they would be offensive in real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949940
If you were already familiar with the bird itself and you were following its actions (like a story about said bird).
Then yeah, you'd use は

[Anonymous No.]

I want to start using a Japanese to Japanese dictionary instead of Japanese to English.
Is there a specific site you would recommend that is fairly easy to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949962
Dunno about "easy to understand", but I generally use kotobank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949950
How do they differ from how real people, except in obvious speech tics like >>17949958 said?
It's not some alien language like people who don't know Japanese think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949925
Okay, I kinda understand but I still have trouble wrapping my hea around it. Like this.
>アリスは誰？
>友達だ。彼女がアリスだ
In the first sentence you use は because Alice is the topic and you're asking who she is.
In the second sentence you use が because it's identifying who the girl is.
Right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949940
As far as this distinction is concerned, は is used to take a known thing that's present in the greater context and make it the topic of a particular sentiment, and for adding things that aren't case arguments of the predicate in ways that other adverbial or conjunctive markers don't allow you to. (see: には, ては, etc. In fact, the "if" ば comes from は.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949965
Something like these entries would be the ideal thing I'm looking for.
Kotobank would work but it seems a bit more verbose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948581
So sometimes numbers are displayed within circles? My only experience with the circles is in doujins when they censor manko and chinpo and such.
>>17948625
... Ok just disregard my question I guess. I can't post the page until later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949962
If you have to worry about understanding them, you shouldn't worry about using them yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949990
Sanseido is the least verbose J-J dictionary.
https://www.sanseido.biz/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949998
I just feel like I learn better when I don't use the English dictionary. Maybe I do still need to wait though.

[Anonymous No.]

"は is emphatic and marks important things"

How fucking hard is this to understand you fucking braindead savages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949981
Yup. If you are physically pointing which girl is アリス, then you'd use が

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950016
It doesn't do that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950010
Don't let me keep you from doing something you want to do, that's just my advice. Use them confidently or continue to treat them like something you want to use but can't use exclusively yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949860
が is the subject of the sentence most of the time (sometimes the object though)
は. often is too, but it doesn't have to be

for example　
>リンゴは私が食べた
as for the apple, I ate it
>私はリンゴを食べた
as for me, I ate the apple

2bh there are lots of other aspects to it, it's something that just takes time

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950019
>multiple fixed phrases which have は in unusual places just for emphasis
>"は" doesn't do that
Yeah, I'm the one who learns out of a textbook you fucking weeb trash.

[Anonymous No.]

It's said that the palace of the "Church of Angels" is shielded by a strong barrier. (Force extermination on the?) creatures flying around the area, break the barrier and head to the palace.

This is a message telling about the goals in this mission. The causative is throwing me off and I am not sure of the meaning here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949886
Grammar exercises are a waste of time and Tae Kim's explanation of the differences is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949994
>So sometimes numbers are displayed within circles?
Not that I've seen, but without any context all I can do is guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that "usually written in kana" = "unusually written in kanji"

[Anonymous No.]

"電車、普通に座れるで今日"

I can read every word but I don't understand what's being said. "Typically I can sit today"? is today the topic but at the end?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950050
A waste of time? They apparently make you an arrogant retard.

I guess those qualities just go together naturally, though, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950062
びっくりした？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950063
"Today, in the (electric) train where I usually sit"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950077
Thank you. I feel very stupid now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950046
Seems like you understand it. Cause their annihilation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950063
Did you cut the sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950095
It was a Twitter post that I poked at since I could read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950084
there's no need to feel stupid, because this isn't proper japanese
maybe it's slang or dialect though, I'm not sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950077
But what does the で do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950103
It's the particle that marks where or by which way something occurs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950073
そう

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948901
あのんは

なんどくらいから

さむいになるの？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949925
りょうほうcorrectだけど

うえは「鳥が家に入ってもいい」ってかんがえているひとが

鳥が家に入るのをみたときにいうんだけど

したは「鳥は家に入ってはいけない」ってかんがえているひとが

鳥が家に入ったのをみたときにつかうよ

がんばれおにいちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950089
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950171
>「鳥が家に入ってもいい」ってかんがえているひと
いったいどんな人でしょうか

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950149
まいなすにはいったらさむいとなる

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950224
鳥が好きな人だろうｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

/int/ djt is better than this shitfest

to all beginners, we are happy to help without autistic screeching and insults (at least not as much)
we also have good taste in anime, pic related


I'll just leave this here
>>>/int/82220902

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950249
t. rob

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good site to track manga?
Neither manga-updates nor MAL have proper results for stuff that's not translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950249
int is full of リア充 that care about production and JLPT
you also have to suffer flags
its not better than here, its considerably worse, unless you're a normalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950249
it's not that there are less autists, it's that there's not enough autists to make a fight

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950277
Normalflag?

[Anonymous No.]

へっぉ
ほわれよう

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950249
Yes please, take all the dumb newfags.

[Anonymous No.]

How to differentiate between なりに and なり when the に is taken off? such as replacing it with の. Context? Putting それ after the noun so its obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950237
ひょうてんかは

さむいというかつめたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950277
Yeah, I agree that having real concrete goals is pretty dumb. Like, what are you doing with your life if you're learning a language for reasons other than watching porn or reading VNs? They're pretty stupid these normies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950615
I didn't say they're stupid. If they wanna chase JLPT/production then so be it, but don't act like we aren't trying to achieve something either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949405
take your /pol/ boogeyman somewhere else geekboy

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950643
>int is full of リア充 that care about production and JLPT
>its not better than here, its considerably worse, unless you're a normalfag
By the power of inference, you're pretty much shitting on people for doing something with their lives, and saying it's better to be a kissless basement dwelling autist. You need to take a step back and reassess what your life will look like if you keep going this route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950660
kill yourself out of /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950660
リア充爆発しろ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950660
Would you rather be a braindead person who doesnt get shit done and has a "girlfriend" or someone who actually understands how shit works and gets everything done naturally.
Well in your case you would probably be the girlfriend suckign dick though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950660
the view on your high horse must be something else
please, allow us peasants the honor of scratching out a meager understanding of the language, my liege

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950660
And you wonder why people don't go to your normalfag /int/ garbage thread.

[Anonymous No.]

What if I'm a kissless virgin but care about production and JLPT

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950660
your vessel does not provide me the sustenance i require

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950711
I can't judge you unless you give more details on what you want to produce and why you care about JLPT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950686
>>17950692
>>17950718
you don't have to reply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950719
I care about production because I want to enroll in a japanese university and I care about JLPT because having a certificate makes the process easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948692
7 days of cramming is certainly better than just sitting around and do fuck all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950733
weebo

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950733
That sounds like a dumb reason to me. You're going to regret it. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am if you manage it, I'll be here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950733
>I care about production because I want to enroll in a japanese university

Why exactly do you want to do this? I'll assume you're not American because it would be dumb of someone to pick a Japanese university over an American one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950761
>>17950765
>>17950773
Thanks for the support guys. At least I'm not the one who'll be staying in the basement for the rest of his life. Enjoy your weird porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950784
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950784
Enjoy your crappy education and student life, idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>それはさむいのうちにはいらない
このクススレ
腹が立つ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950916
きのにうちははいりたい

[Anonymous No.]

なにがなんのうちになにらなくっても

なんとかなるんじゃないかなあ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950924
きののせかいはいってみたいね

[/psy/mon|0+X's|/sci/mon No.]

>>17948325
まず第一に、あなたはしましたではないしますた、過去形でタイプを作りました。

それが終了した場合の活動は、他の言葉で、過去に完全にあるときにでも、両方が悪いです、過去のテストにのみ使用されます。

あなたはている形をしたいです。 そして、あなたは必要ありませんそう。 それは少し積極的な音として、彼らは、そのようなことをするだろう、なぜあなたが求めているかのように、あなたは、コンテキストのようなものでそんなこと言いたくはありません。

いつからしています？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950986
This poster is ban evading.

[/psy/mon|0+X's|/sci/mon No.]

>>17951057
這海報禁令的避讓。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951057
Even if he wasn't, he's still a shitposter who deserves a permaban

[/psy/mon|0+X's|/sci/mon No.]

>>17951059
這張海報是一個值得一個permaban的shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>その時、俺はようやく立ち直るのにとても長い時間がかかるくらい、深く落ち込むことができるんだろうって、思う

Can anyone help me understand this sentence? I get the 俺はようやく立ち直る part but I'm having a hard time understanding how のにとても長い時間がかかるくらい ties with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951104
>俺はようやく立ち直るのに
>とても長い時間がかかるくらい...
Does this help? I'm not qualified to go further, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

What the christ is the matter with 納? It has 5 (6) different ON readings and has an different Kanji variant altogether even though theyre the same thing. Should I get used to this sort of stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951104
>その時、俺は
>[
>ようやく立ち直るのに
>とても長い時間がかかるくらい、
>深く落ち込む
>]
>ことができるんだろう
>って、思う

(maybe?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951133
What? Why would you break it up like that (this is >>17951129).
My interpretation is this:
>At that time, even though I had finally gotten back on my feet, it took a very long time. [Because it took such a long time,] falling into a deep depression seems likely, I think.
...but I have no idea what I'm saying; I'm just an Anki drone for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951141
>のに
I'm not confident, but I suspect that here it does not mean "despite". Honestly I'm still having a hard time parsing the rest of the sentence though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951129
>>17951133
Thanks. I think you guys may be on the right track. I think this >>17951141 might be the right interpretation based on the context of what I was reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951147
Thank you. See, you know what's up. Just have faith and feel it out :)
So maybe something like..
>In order to finally get back on my feet, it's going to take a very long time and it's likely that I'll fall into a deep depression...
Something like that. I have a feeling you have a much better idea than I do -- especially since you should have additional context to help you, right?
がんばれ、せんぱい。
>>17951179
No! I'm wrong! He helped me out.

[Anonymous No.]

every day i get closer to dropping this shitty dictionary

if you have to explain your fucking language like its a theoretic science textbook you are a failure as a teacher or in this case writer

tldr can anyone simplify だろうに down or is it really just as simple as adding a tone of regret or sympathy to the sentence for whatever context fits best?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951104
むずかしいにほんごは

ほうっておこー

>すっごく落ち込む、その時が来たら。

ってかいてあるよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951184
>>17951147
Hmmm, this is getting more confusing the more I look at it. The context is he wants this girl to move on from him and find her own happiness so I'm not sure if this interpretation fits
>At that time, even though I had finally gotten back on my feet, it took a very long time. [Because it took such a long time,] falling into a deep depression seems likely, I think.

I guess I'll think on it a bit more.

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>>17951186
>"Scond, ~ {V/Adj}inf・past{deshō/darō} ni"
this is pure linguist-ese, what kind of dictionary is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951204

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone here attempted Trails in the Sky (空の軌跡)? Where were you in your studies when you tried it?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, I managed to find that /djt/ has migrated to /jp/, but where did the sadpanda generals migrate to? I checked every possible board here, including even oekaki and couldn't find it. Could anyone give a hint?

It's such a shame, they were so comfy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951254
The most obvious board to try, maybe?
>ヘンタイ
p.s. DJT is also on /int/

[Anonymous No.]

>https://youtu.be/Bh1fQbLQx6w
What did they mean by this?

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>>17951235
You know it's translated right?

I haven't gone through it but from what I've seen, I don't think it's that hard. It's just there's an absurd amount of dialogue so if your reading speed isn't good, you might avoid some of the NPC conversations due to how tiresome it can get.

Either way, it's a really nice JRPG.

[Anonymous No.]

Day 5. Counting is easy, other numbers like 五つ are hard. Basic grammer sort of understanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951329
がんばれ！
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951333
Do not worry anon! I won't give up! Japanese gives me something to do, and it's oddly motivating..

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951329
>other numbers like 五つ are hard
Suspend the fuck out of them, and days of the week and months too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951347
Suspend? As in not learn them? to be honest they're slightly easier than regular kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951329
諦めろ！
勉強は無駄し
難しいし

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951355
>Suspend? As in not learn them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951358
わかりません。
>>17951364
I'm confused, also stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951355
Yes. You will learn them in no time when you start listening practice, but learning irregular readings of all that shit can be very demotivating in the beginning, AND you better learn new kanji or words in that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951368
It's only taken me a few day and I'm on 8 already so I'm going to plow through the last two and see how days of the week and months treat me.

[Anonymous No.]

関西弁でも敬語もあるらしい
来た→来はった、する→しはる（等）
やけど全然使用されてへんらしいも
正直、これケッタイので使用されてへんのはよかったな

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951385
関西弁ってダサくね？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951407
敬語だけなら合意してん
全ての弁なら全く合意しかねるねん

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951413
ウチナーグチの方がカッコイイだろ

[Anonymous No.]

わっちは花魁詞が好きでありんす

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951418
知らへん？聞いたことあらへんからかっこいいかどうか判定が出へん
どっち道、きっと他のええ方言あるんやけど僕には関西弁よりもっと美しい方言なんてあらへんで
あんさんはええ方言を見つけたらそれもええことやなー

[Anonymous No.]

Can I access note review period or maturity status with conditionals, javascript, or something else?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a reason why people just write ぼく、わたし、オレ etc. on twitter instead of their proper kanji forms?
Yeah it's slang, obviously, but what reason would they have to do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951427
中国（支那）の方言でもいいですか？
ngu huoe shi zaon he ghae gho～

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951441
because they can
>it's slang

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951445
日本国外の方言の場合でオーストラリアやアイルランドの方言がええぞ
チャイナの方言はなんも知らへんですまんな

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951186
>>17951204
If sentence = "Scond, ~ {V / Adj}inf・nonpast {deshou / darou} ni",
which means: If sentence = "A conditional sentence, followed by an informal verb/adjective (phrase) in the nonpast tense, followed by deshou or darou ni"
(if this is the part that's throwing you off, please consult the beginning of any one of the DoJG books where it spells out all the abbreviations for terminology it will use. I have this screenshot on hand from the DoBJG but I'm not sure if it covers everything used in Intermediate and Advanced)
Then the entire sentence is suggestive of the past counter to the current situation, as in Ex. (b):
お金がたくさんあれば　こんな家でも買える　でしょうに。
Scond V inf nonpast deshou ni
If we [had] a lot of money, we [would] be able to buy this sort of house.

If sentence = "Scond, ~ {V / Adj}inf・past {deshou / darou} ni",
which means: If sentence = "A conditional sentence, followed by an informal verb/adjective (phrase) in the past tense, followed by deshou or darou ni"
Then the entire sentence is suggestive of the past counter to a situation in the past, as in KS(Key Setence)1:
昨日来れば　夏子に会えた　でしょう／だろうに。
Scond V inf past deshou/darou ni
If you [had] come here yesterday, you [could have] met Natsuko.

Whether or not you have deshou/darou ni, these English translations are kinda the same as if they weren't there (at least in writing), the deshou/darou ni has a nuance of either regret or sympathy depending on the subject. Deshou/darou ni also holds a nuance of uncertainty over the comparable noni, which is also suggestive of regret or sympathy.

昨日来れば夏子に会えた.
If you had come here yesterday, you could have met Natsuko (as a fact with no nuance of sympathy or regret).
昨日来れば夏子に会えたでしょうに。
If (only) you had come here yesterday, you (probably) could have met Natsuko.
昨日来れば夏子に会えたのに。
If (only) you had come here yesterday, you could have met Natuko.

こんなことだろうね

すげー遅くなってしまったなぁ　こんな詳しい説明を書くつもりはなかったけどな（笑）

ぐないよDJT

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>>17951451
広東語はかっけえぞ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqDua_cUuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn2suJtprd8

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951235
Yeah, 1 1/2 years in. I'd played the english version before and and it was hell, but I learned a lot. Protip: Keep an english Let's Play around to look things up.

I played SC in japanese a year later and that went a lot better.
I also passed JLPT N2 (with 172/180) around the time I played SC, so you should be fine if you're close to that level.

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>>17951457
Thank you. I understand it now.
Now I'm just angry as fuck they wrote an entire clusterfuck of a paragraph to tell us the most basic concept of "the tense it's in is the tense its in"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951466
>>17951451
チンコロくっさいぞ

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone tried reading Steins;Gate? How was it? I've been wanting to try it but it looks hard to read.

[Anonymous No.]

ネトウヨは2chに帰れ

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>>17951441
Can you give a single reason why they should be written in kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951490
お前こそ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951487
Makise's speech and most pseudoscience infodumps will go straight over your head but individual conversations and the overall narrative are normal Japanese. It's manageable, probably even close to "easy" if you already know the characters, setting and plot, which you probably already do.

Chaos;Child is easier; you should read that first if you haven't.

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>>17951503
Can you give a single reason why anything should be written in kanji?
Yeah, pronouns are easier to write with kana only because everyone knows them, but assuming we're talking only about native speakers here, we might as well just write everything with kana since they can understand what's being said from context, even if it's ambiguous sometimes.

I can understand writing わたし and its many, many derivatives with kana only, but in what contexts would you actually mistake 僕 for しもべ?
Yeah yeah slang doesn't make any sense but I was thinking there must be SOME reason to it. But maybe there isn't, given that this is the same country that thinks the English language is nothing more than a fashion accessory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951515
Thanks, I'll try out Chaos;Child too

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951424
くるわによって

つかわせる

ことばが

ちがったらしいよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951445
>>17951466
意味わからん
シナ方言の響きって　まじ気持ちわるい
二度と耳にしたくないな
そんなに耳障りなもんを耐え切って日々過ごせるチンコロがすげえな

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951515
>>17951522
I agree that chaos;child is a good choice. The only difficult parts I can remember revolved around Momose and Kunosato interacting which happens, but not too often

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951535
じゃお前はこれから漢語使用禁止

[Anonymous No.]

Yesterday I set up Anki in my VM which has old firefox and rikai and all those goodies that make reading simple and fun, but something strange happened. The words I mined are now showing up at the top of my queue instead of being at the end like they usually do. (i.e. they would show up months from now, since I have a backlog, instead of today).

What could be causing this? I haven't changed any settings compared to my usual setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951553
なにおこってんのよ　シナ人目
漢の民はもうとくにいなくなった
それとも　あれか
くっそチンックは漢の受け継がれ　か

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951579
お前怒っているのか？

[Anonymous No.]

>listen to japanese music
>barely understand anything outside of the most obvious words
>enable JP subs
>realize i understand 90% of the words and suddenly understand everything when i see the kanji

JAPAN WHY U GOTTA HAVE ALL THESE HOMOPHONES

[Anonymous No.]

中国のお陰で漢字があるんやから中国に感謝しろ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951595
Ya just need listening practice m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951604
はいはい　
りっぱなチンックさんね
えらい　えらい

何千年前の出来こと　いつまで気取ってる気

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951643
お前の相手はあいつじゃなくて俺だぞ
面白れぇなお前
「なにおこってんのよ」って言ったのに俺は全然平気で逆にお前がこんなに怒っててワロタ

[Anonymous No.]

こいつ全く日本語を話せなさそうだぜ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951595
This is why I always listen to a song the first time with subs or while reading along from the lyrics booklet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951595
>homophones causing problems
Is this your first week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951649
相手されなくて逆切れかよｗｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>おいすーっ
What is that supposed to be an abbreviation of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951692
アイスクリームでもないよね

おなかすいた

「おはようございます」とかそういうのじゃない？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951692
japanese is a pain in the ass so things get shortened and twisted

if "good morning" was 10 syllables maybe we'd all say "gorn"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951717
g'morn

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>>17951701
>「おはようございます」とかそういうのじゃない？
That's what I thought at the beginning, but it's happening during the early evening, so I didn't think おはよう fits (unless you can screw the meaning if you're going to shorten the hell out of it anyway). I also thought it might be a weird way of shortening お帰りなさい. おなかすいた makes sense, but I don't think that's the case.
>>17951717
I usually shorten it to mornin' or just 'nin', so yeah, it's happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>keep buying manga that i know i cant read yet when i still have stuff to read

why do i do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951775
I do the same shit with LNs, don't worry. We have our whole lives ahead of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951777

i bought my first LNs aswell actually

haruhi

I hope I can read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951780
I bought all the available volumes of pic related, they're still waiting on the bookshelf.

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>>17951749
>(unless you can screw the meaning if you're going to shorten the hell out of it anyway)
this, basically. I don't think there's an exact etymology. It's just a casual greeting.

Here's more:
うぃーす
おぃーす
うっす
おっす
うーす
ちーす
ちゃーす

the last two probably came from こにちは (my guess is that the す was added to make it sound better or for some bare minimum of politeness) but all of them are basically interchangable. If you work night shift at a conbini I doubt you'd get a stare from your senpai if you said ちーす, even though showing up at 7PM with a 「こにちは」 might be a little weird

あざーす and さーせん are in the same vein and very common, but they are pretty similar to their originals

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951780
The first sentence will kill you because it's a huge run-on sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951799
*こんにちは
寝不足

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951799
Thanks, mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951749
おはようは

２４時間つかえるよ

[Anonymous No.]

あらあら
おねえさんと遊びたいの

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951802
you mean this?
>サンタクロースをいつまで信じていたかなんてことはたわいもない世間話にもならないくらいのどうでもいいような話だが、それでも俺がいつまでサンタなどという想像上の赤服じーさんを信じていたかと言うとこれは確信をもって言えるが最初から信じてなどいなかった。
it looks more frightening than it actually is

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951825
漂うニート臭

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951826
おねえさん（44）

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951826
こっち見てないでよ
おねえさん恥ずかしいよね

[Anonymous No.]

興味が持つように日本語勉強したいです。　ニュース、新聞、小説で日本語を練習しましたが、なかなか興味と集中力を長くを持たなかったんです。皆さんどうやって、日本語を楽しく勉強しますか？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951853
ごはん！

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951799
あざっす -> ありがとうございます

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951853
デカパイロリ同人誌でげきシコ連発祭り

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951840
BBAじゃない?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951853
エロゲ
漫画

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951853
>ニュース、新聞、小説で日本語を練習しましたが
せんせー、この人うそついてまーーーすｗｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

If I learned anything from learning Japanese, it's that I hate Chinese phonetics. Fucking on readings, all these きゅう, しょう and せい.

[Anonymous No.]

Studying Japanese has only reinforced my belief that all asians are subhuman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951925
really inspiring blogpost. you've just earned yourself one subscriber

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to make anki display words horizontally?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951861
すみません、意味分からない。
>>17951863
いい趣味ですね。でも、私にはプリンプリンの年上の女の方が好き
>>17951881
エロゲていいですね、考えませんでした。ありがとうございます。
>>17951893
エースパーですか？

正直言うと、難しい漢字と文法を理解できるように練習したいです。アニメと漫画ではなかなか。やはり一番やりたいのは何処かで漫画、アニメ、ゲーム、テック、日本語で会話したいです。日本の４ちゃん見たいなものがありますか？
双葉ちゃんの機能が悪いので、あまり好きじゃないです。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951941
I can't try it myself right now, but try adding
-webkit-writing-mode: vertical-rl;
(including the - at the beginning) to your card's styling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951941
Upload your card layout to pastebin, I'll see what I can do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950255
Alert.shop-bell is useful for volume released and has an email reminder service.
http://alert.shop-bell.com/

[Anonymous No.]

where can one watch japanese tv? the game shows etc look like they would be good for learning japanese because they often have JP subs and text on them

they never show up in torrents so they're forever lost in time if you don't watch them live

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951922
It's not chinese's fault, in chinese most of the japanese homophones are actually pronounced differently due to tonality, but that was lost when japanese adopted it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951968
I don't know about other systems, but vertical-rl on Windows, default installation from over a year ago causes the text to appear literally rotated by 90 degrees, CJK included.
(also, since when are tb-rl deprecated?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951853
I'm quite new but reading posts like this which aren't that difficult makes me happy and gives me motivation

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952011
頑張ってね、アノンさん！

[Anonymous No.]

だって名無しさんって

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952011
ヲタ外人の腐った脳から出る日本語は害の塊

あまり見ないほうがいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951186
Why haven't you switched to HJGP already?

[Anonymous No.]

I learned Japanese. What do I do now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952108
Be obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952108
Learn Korean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952115
Nah, that's only fun when you're in the intermediate-upper intermediate level. Then it becomes just as cringeworthy as it would be if I did it in English
>>17952117
Korean sounds terrible, I've never heard a worse sounding language in my life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952108
Read porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952124
I've been doing that all day. Every day. Guess I'll do it some more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952108

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952011
You are welcome.
It didn't mean to be difficult though, so anyone who knows basic Japanese should be able to give me some kind of answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952135
I've had this installed for over a year. I can never get past the opening scene because I get bored and go back to reading shitposts on futaba. It's actually not that hard to read aside from the odd rare kanji here and there, the albatross games are worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952108
はいどーぞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952146
I actually had to memorize some hentaigana this one time, won't go into detail. That was a long time ago and I've forgotten them since. Not much point unless you're going to be reading original Edo period letters and manuscripts or want to show off to your pals when you visit Kyoto and you can read all the restaurant signs. I probably can't even make heads or tails of Kobun at this point (Kanbun is ezpz though).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952088
It's not as good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952149
>>17952142
You're obnoxious as fuck, so don't say shit like >>17952122

[Anonymous No.]

Kanji Grid is wrong. Both in the original and the newest versions.

But how wrong?
- It lists a few Jouyou kanji as Jinmeiyou and vice-versa because of the 2010 changes (despite having a category for the new-jouyou);
- It thinks 勺銑脹錘匁𠮟剝巫 are Hyougai, even using their older form where appliable;
- It lists two Chinese character as Jinmeiyou variants: 谒 should be 謁 and 祸 should be 禍;
- The correct kanji for these two, by the way, are not even detected as kanji by the add-on (not even Hyougai);

So really what I wanna know is if there is any corrected version out there, otherwise I will have to check all kanji 1 by 1 using Wikipedia or something to make sure I got everything right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952070
何だ、この感覚は
もっと、もっと、私を罵ってください！

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952213
Your waifu looks like a horse in that picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952230
Oh, you dead meat now punk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952240
I was just fulfilling your request. No bully the bullies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952203
>The correct kanji for these two, by the way, are not even detected as kanji by the add-on (not even Hyougai);
CJK Compatibility Ideographs are not picked up by the addon.
In the isKanji(unichar) definition:

change

return unicodedata.name(unichar).find('CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH') >= 0

to

return ((unicodedata.name(unichar).find('CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH') >= 0) or (unicodedata.name(unichar).find('CJK COMPATIBILITY IDEOGRAPH') >= 0))

I also tweaked mine to make them appear in a solid border. There's also a problem on the Windows version (and Unix versions with Python compiled without proper Unicode support) with characters above the 0xFFFF plane (4-byte UCS), but it shouldn't be a problem here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951324
>>17951475
Thanks for your answers. I'm just beginning, but it is my favorite game, so I thought I'd gauge its difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951475
1.5 years to pass JLPT N2, that's absolutely amazing. How did you do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952297
no, 2 1/2 years

Nothing special, really: RTK, Core10k, and the Shin Kanzen Master books

[Anonymous No.]

I live in Japan for 2 months already, but I feel like my Japanese isn't improving as much as I'd like. What's worse is that I have not made any Japanese friends yet. I have tried to be more active by attending various events and whatnot, but it was not easy.. I attend Japanese classes seriously, do daily anki and reading, but my production (i.e. speaking) still sucks. Any tips anons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952355
>Otaku culture
>I have not made any Japanese friends yet
there seems to be a correlation

>I live in Japan for 2 months already
what are you doing there btw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952355
the thread in /int/ is probably better for answering questions like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952355
If you're in Tokyo, hang out in Roppongi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952369
I am taking Japanese classes at a language school. It's probably considered a waste of money by most anons here, but I think the experience of being here is worth it.

>>17952376
Got it. Thanks..

>>17952379
I'm not sure if you are serious with this since I heard differing opinions about the area. But I will give it a try. I suppose you suggest that because the area are flooded with tourists/foreigners like me and people tend to be more open toward us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952355
>I have not made any Japanese friends yet
You're not going to.
Welcome to Japan 白人

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952355
Adjust your expectations. If you dedicate your life to Japanese you can be kind of OK in 2 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952421
That's the idea, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952355
You moved to japan so you can do anki there? I tfeel like replacing anki with social interaction with natives might be a good option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952558
You would think, but people who move to another country to "immerse" themselves and slack off on studying tend to be stuck at a primitive level of fluency. I don't think you should sit in your house and ankidrone, and that immersion in local culture is good, but you can't replace a core part of your study with speaking to natives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952421
>I am taking Japanese classes at a language school.
I'm doing that too currently and it is a big waste of money but the advantage is firstly having native people around you and experiencing their culture first hand and secondly it forces you to get around in daily life and in certain situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952558
I feel like you are one step away from the idiotic:
"Oh it is so easy, just go into a bar and drink some beers, easy, I learned tons."
hate that bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

How many lessons in Genki should I be doing a week? I was considering 2, but don't want my retention to be bad. For reference, there's a total of 12 lessons in Genki I.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952662
Though I'm not trying it, from my experience with Spanish in school I definitely think that simply being forced to use the language and potentially having expectations from others to progress is a powerful effect. Don't know if it's worth the price, but it is a factor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950058
おはよう
Here's the page. I'm hoping someone can teach me what it means. I obviously read passed this part, I'm just curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952683
Just go at whatever pace you like best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952751
It's just means zeroes. 特急04840便

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952683
>I was considering 2, but don't want my retention to be bad.
Retention doesn't matter. You won't memorise (or even fully understand) everything the first time round, no matter how slow you go. You will wind up having to go back and re-read probably almost everything at some point, so just get through it at whatever pace you can without worrying about it too much. Most of it won't really start to sink in properly until you've had a good amount of exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

Regarding the bottom panel in pic related, what word is ロマニ supposed to be?

Also, in the speech bubble after that one, the text there says "隠していてくれたち", right? What is the ち here supposed to be?

If somehow it helps, the context around the character saying these lines is that she's stalkerish pervert who's obsessed with イカ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952886
ロマン

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952903
God damn, I hate katakana.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952886
隠していてくれたら

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952912
God damn, I hate Japanese handwriting.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952911
Learn the kana stroke order my man (or just read more katakana).
ニ NEVER has that shape (two converging lines) if you write properly, even in handwriting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952912
隠していてくれた方

[Anonymous No.]

新幹線

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951130
とう - 出納
な - 納屋
なっ - 納豆 納得
aside from those four words on-yomi pretty much always のう

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953027
深感染

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952146
You stirred my completionist autism and made me made myself a deck with all hentaigana in the UCS. I also modified the kanji grid addon to support it and added hiragana and katakana just for the hell of it. Pic related, it's me after my first session, I went with 110 cards. I'm gonna do 10 every day, we'll see how it ends.

Wish me luck.

[Anonymous No.]

http://japanesetest4you.com/jlpt-n1-grammar-list/
http://japanesetest4you.com/jlpt-n1-vocabulary-list/
how complete are these lists?

[Anonymous No.]

What's up with those 売上カードs that are in every japanese LN?
It seems to be something that's supposed to be collected by the retailer, but I guess Amazon just doesn't bother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953123
no one knows, because the JLPT organization doesn't publish lists anymore since going from the old 級-system to the new N-system

[Anonymous No.]

>>17947960
Opinion on using this https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1434910726 (VN2K) to start reading VNs asap instead of using core6k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953180
Forgot to mention that I'd like to do it like this so I can start making my own decks as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953192
You can make your own deck from 0

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953203
Yeah I know but that would be a pain starting from almost 0 JPN skills. I was considering learning about 500-1000 words and finishing a grammar guide or two before I start reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953224
Definitely don't finish two grammar guides, nor wait for some magic number before you start reading. "Starting to read" should take you a week at most.

(This is only an opinion, so feel free to disagree.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953292
I disagree

[Anonymous No.]

im still ankidroning, however i poked into reading with yotsubas vocab and I find it a lot easier to retain things from core decks. I think it's because I receive a lot of words with the same kanji at once instead of 1 word here and another word like 2 months down the line with the same kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

Im learning, just not quite at the pace I would like. Normally I cant be taught just by giving a lecture and theres always that sweet spot type of learning where I get it immediately. Does anyone have any odd or uncommon ways they used for learning Japanese? Itd be worth it for me to try out a bunch of other ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953471
I would argue that "reading japanese porn games" would be considered an unusual method, no matter how regular it is ITT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953475
I just realized how screwed up we all are

[Anonymous No.]

>下心以外のなんでもないでしょ
>今日はするどいねヒナちゃん

>Nothing apart from ulterior motives, probably...
>Sharp today, huh Hina?

On point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953475
Not quite what I was referring to since that's mining, just in unusual places. But I suppose it does count.
>>17953475
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know of any good japanese cooking shows? I'm still a beginner so english subtitles would be nice but not 100% needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953180
If I remember correctly this deck puts furigana on the front of the card by default, which is absolutely retarded. If you change that it probably doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953542
Yeah, I'm currently tesing the deck and that's the first thing I've done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953542
Is furigana retarded for a beginner?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953471
Go live in Japan for a year to the rest of your life. Get on a container ship and work as an illegal in a port town for as long as you can get away with it. Or hitch up with one of the hundreds of Buddhist monasteries in the country and convince them to take you on as a disciple. Or apply for admission to one of those dual English/Japanese universities. I'm sure there are even more creative ways you could find yourself in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953575
Sounds good. Does anyone know anybody willing to hire illegal retards at a livable wage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953551
For reading, no. For memorizing vocab, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953528
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953551
Well, not for use in reading, but you'll stunt your learning if you don't memorize readings along with the vocabulary you're studying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953586
Oh, right. Cause what's the point in memorizing if it's right in front of your face

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953587
kansha onii

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953471
https://www.meetup.com/find/?allMeetups=false&keywords=japanese&radius=50

If you live near a major city of any sort I'm sure there are some Japanese trying to learn English that you could form a mutually beneficial relationship with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953585
>Does anyone know anybody willing to hire illegal retards
The yakuza?
>at a livable wage
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone actually use あがる for nervous/stagefright? Im going to lose my fucking mind if I get it wrong again in anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953629
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953629
edit the card to make it distinguishable from the other 上がる cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953057
Nice.
>>17953629
No. It only "means" that when paired with other words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948554
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953629
あがる itself doesn't mean stagefright, it's the act of like going in front of an audience, like performing on a stage as in 舞台にあがる. The normal word for stagefright is derived from it: あがり症

[Anonymous No.]

Recently finished up with Hiragana. Any tips on katakana, or is it as straightforward as Hiragana?

Also, any tips on writing the kana; my current handwriting is atrocious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953533
食戟のソーマ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953688
Katakana introduces additional consonants like v- and w- so learn these too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953703
They're in hiragana too (ゐ、ゑ), and "v-" is just ウ with dakuten, with additional vowel to go va (ヴァ) etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953688
>>17953703
U and U" in katakana is W and V respectively so if you see U with a small vowel next to it, it's meant to be Wa/Va etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953714
>ゐ ゑ
Those were removed, weren't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953718
Just like ヰ and ヱ, so I have no idea why you mentioned them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953718
No, they're just not used in normal writing any more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953057
Did you just add 99 cards for kana you already know for completion sake? What a strange and pointless thing to do for more cyan boxes, I'd feel silly reviewing symbols that I have down solid because I read thousands of them in every review session already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953767
I easied all of them on the first session anyway, I'll do it again in four days and soon they will be one year +.
It would feel weird if there was only hentaigana there, now I can at least separate them into three groups. It looks pretty nice overall. Besides, my regular kanji deck has Level 10s and I started it when I already knew all of them, I don't think there's any harm in that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953027
寢奸戦

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953767
>What a strange and pointless thing to do for more cyan boxes
As opposed to posting on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953818
Fair enough on the kanji point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953718
>Those were removed
For the most part, yeah. They aren't used in modern Japanese outside of authors flaunting with creative license on a rare occasion or for something in a specific historical context. If you even find yourself reading earlier/classic Japanese works that haven't be altered to modern Japanese, you will find these kana scattered throughout those texts.
Here is a Japanese dictionary entry for the word 据え付ける, which indicates that it was once read with すゑ instead of the modern すえ. suwe→sue
>据え付ける
>［動カ下一］
>[文]すゑつ・く［カ下二］
>物をある場所に据えて固定する。

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953027
しんかんせんしんかんせん

しんかんせん

とんたんとん

きんかんばんぎんかんばん

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951861
ごはん！

[Anonymous No.]

あんぱんまん

わんたんめん

おんはんよんおんおんにんいんちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953941

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954019

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954060
>>17954019
来るな！

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954019
>>17954060
anime ruined /djt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954063
>>17954064

[Anonymous No.]

たつき監督をかえしてよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952886
^ volume 1 scans

<volume 2 scans

why

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954077
It gets better, somewhat

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954060
>>17954066

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954127
delete this

[Anonymous No.]

>人差し指
>お母さん指
>塩舐め指
>第二指
>示指
>食指
>頭指
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954077
If that's low scan quality to you then you've got a big storm coming when you move onto a series with actual shit quality, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954207
もうじかんだよ

こんなところであそんでないで

はやくはたらいて

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954207
>>第二指
>>示指
These 2 make sense, from a beginners point of view at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954220
It is objectively low quality (looks like the crap the photocopiers back at school used to turn out), but I get what you mean. The furigana is thankfully still big enough and clear enough to be legible, so it could be worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>week till JLPT
>test voucher still hasn't come into the mail
>not even an email saying it was sent
Are they slow this year or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954664
They can smell the fear in you.

[Anonymous No.]

I still have no idea what the difference between wa and ga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954807
they're not even remotely related, stop thinking they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954807
https://8020japanese.com/wa-vs-ga/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954818
What's the difference between these two?
私は学生
私が学生
They both translate to the same thing in English, that's why I'm having trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954834
>What's the difference between these two?
One of them has being a student as the focus, the other has what you are as the focus.

>They both translate to the same thing in English, that's why I'm having trouble.
You have to train yourself to stop using English translations as a way to understand differences between Japanese things as soon as possible. Most simple grammar is impossible to translate literally without context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954818
Gee, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954807
Read more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954897
but i dont like reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954903
and thats ok

[Anonymous No.]

Hey /djt/ how fucked am I going to be trying to read Rewrite Harvest Festa as my first VN? I finished core2k and just really loved Rewrite when I read it in English and want more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955028
good luck with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955028
>core2k
The entire 9k words? N1 level?

If not lolfuckoff, go read some Yuzusoft kusoge or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955046
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955028
Whatever you read, it's going to be tough. If you have the patience to stick with it then go ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955046
>Yuzusoft kusoge
hey, fuck you
yuzusoft makes some cute vns

[Anonymous No.]

why does yomi chan require you to press shift to see the definition? more importantly, why does it almost never work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955068
if you set it to none, its default behavior is on mouse over

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955077
Not that guy but I tried that and it ended up highlighting even English letters for some reason. Yomichan in general sucks dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955118
it doesn't, you just suck at using it

[Anonymous No.]

I was reading Subahibi and I noticed that the word キチガイ was censored. Until now I've only ever seen some sexual words censored like that in eroge. Why is キチガイ considered offensive enough to censor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955129
Nah, even Rikaichan was better. Yomichan is too slow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955068

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955129
I did the same thing and the highlighting remains garbage compared to rikaisama.

[Anonymous No.]

subahibi is a meme vn
read something better

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955156
anon is a meme poster
pay attention to something better

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955140
Japan is somehow more sensitive to words that discriminate against disabled people than America. I remember one album back in the 90s that was pulled off the market just for using the word 唖 metaphorically, though the 言葉狩り has cooled down a bit since then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955140
外基地って

それのアナグラムでつかわれることがあるよ

[Anonymous No.]

ツイッターとかだと

基地外ではなくてガイジ（障碍児）をみかけるとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

ぜんりょくのあのんを

きょうはこえていこう

がんばれおにいちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

What are people using instead of rikaichan? Kalamandea's Rikaichan build? Rikaichamp? New FF broke compatibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
Google chrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955459
I know I can use rikaikun, but I don't want to use chrome. Why does the Mozillan Jew hate JP learners, /djt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955463
i think they hate their whole userbase considering they nuked the one reason their fucking browser good: addons

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
die hard rikaisama fans are keeping a 32bit old version, blocked from internet access, purely for mining.
And for general lookup without mining, rikaichamp works on the new version of FF.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17947960
>じゃあお言葉に甘えて、休みつつ課題しようかなーなんて。

I read it as:

>Well, I'll take your word for it, and while I rest a bit I'll let you fill this exercise sheet for me.

But I'm not really sure. It's kind of unexpected of him to take advantage from her.
I don't really understand the use of よう and なんて at the end of this sentence.

Just in case, when he says he'll take her word for it, he is talking about her having said that she wants to help him in whatever way she can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955497
I'll pick up RikaiChamp for the time being, then. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955500
Does he mean "just kidding"?
I can't tell from the lack of the final ね

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955500
リア充爆発しろ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
>updating something that isn't broken
Serves you right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
Whats the best Chrome extension rn?

[Anonymous No.]

メイドインアビス２期くるって

あんまりうれなかったからダメかとおもったけど

うれしいやったー

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955563
リア充じゃなくて、萌豚だよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
I use rikaichan

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't こふんして basically "moaned loudly"? I know I've heard it dozens of times but now that I'm trying to look it up I can't find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955681
こぐんふんとう（孤軍奮闘）を

こふんってshortenしたことはないとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955681
興奮 or こうふん anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955721
That's it, the exact spelling used was こーふんして. Yet another thing to keep in mind moving on, thanks. I hate long vowel markers.

[Anonymous No.]

なんかげえむしようかな

[Anonymous No.]

かいものげーむしにいく

のみのいち

いこうかな

[Anonymous No.]

Doubtful, but does anyone have experience on italki?

[Anonymous No.]

のみのいち

いくには

でっかいマスクしないとね

さんぐらすもしていく

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955792
In my first 3-4 months of learning the language, yeah.
Most of my time ended up being spent correcting Japanese peoples' English instead of having my Japanese corrected.
It isn't particularly useful unless you regularly write stuff in Japanese and want it corrected by natives.
If you mean the teaching courses then I never tried those and it sounds like a waste of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949323
>1 result on google and it's /djt/
>2 if I remove それは
It's gibberish my man

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955957
>trying to stoke a dead, pointless argument
Autismal fucks like you are a pox on these threads. Find a different general to live in and shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955736
When a word that's normally written with kanji is written with kana it's likely to be written with a ー for えい and おう type sounds. If you don't know what the word is, you just need to guess the kana and search for it.
In some cases ー can be used for non-えい and おう type sounds. For example, I've seen 憂鬱 written as ゆーーつ but this was a really rare case.
What you do need to watch out for are certain dialects (I know it's very popular in the Kansai dialect) to just outright remove う sounds. I've read manga where the characters pretty much never say it in kana form and stuff like やってみよう just becomes やってみよ.
Just keep that in mind in case something seems off within the context.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone help me out with the kanji?

買ってくれたの○○だけど…

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956079
Isn't it MC's name? 後藤

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956081
ガッデム！ you're right, I don't know why I didn't recognize it even though this is already the third volume and I was able to catch it every time before. thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956079
I second >>17956081. The first one is 後 for sure, but I don't see any words (just names) that have anything that look like the second kanji.
The radical on the bottom right looks a little like a 又 to me, but no kanji use that + ⺾ and 肉.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956090
藤
Turns out I had it right with Jisho's radical searcher, but I just didn't realize it's the name, which is very dumb

[Anonymous No.]

またつまらぬものをかってしまった

１００えんだった

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956113
オナホなの？
安っ!

[Anonymous No.]

ほしがき２ついり１００えん

しょうみきげん、きょうまで

[Anonymous No.]

>>17947960
大学校前,
僕はprefab sproutを耳ます
or
大学校前に
僕はprefab sproutを耳ます

and why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956180
also, would you have to include the の particle inbetween 大学校 and 前？or is it implicit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956180
ごめんなさい

わたしにはわからなかった

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956193
nigger i know you understand what im asking

デブデブオタク、お前は俺の諮問がわかりましたぜ

[Anonymous No.]

Would like to request some assistance as I've been having trouble with わけ and reading on DOJG and HJGP jumbled my thoughts with all the different nuances. Here's some sentences I'm having trouble with:
>こうなったら、いじでも一位を獲るしかないわけで
"The way things are now, I've got to come in first no matter what"

>いざとなったら、パワーを使うよりほかに手はないわけで
"Worst comes to worst, I've got no option but to use the Power"

Also this one: >>>/wsg/1992676
The わけ on やっぱり男らしくないと思ったわけで
I get but what's the function of わけ on these? Is it just a plain and simple"logical conclusion" of the situation or is it stating it more like a fact that is being emphasized? Even it it's in a very roundabout and unnatural sounding way, what would be a close translation that includes what わけ is trying to say? I just can't get a feel of it.

[Anonymous No.]

おにいちゃん

おふろはいろ

おっふろおっふろ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948838
personally there's a massive difference for me between studying first thing in the morning and studying at night when i'm tired. i had like 20 or so that i just could not get down no matter how many times I saw/wrote them until I went back to mornings

[Anonymous No.]

What is「鉄で出来てる」supposed to mean here? I mean, I understand the literal meaning, but it seems like an expression to me.
I googled it and couldn't find anything. I'm guessing this sentence something along the lines of "you're as tough as iron, aren't you"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956381
てつのおんなでしょ？

まーがれっとのことなんじゃないの

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956396
いや多分そんなん関係あらへんと思うで
あったら微妙すぎやろ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956400
タイトルが サッチャー(Thatcher) やん

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956664
あっ ホンマやん、気づかなかったわ
僕さすがにアホやんな～

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956381
to be made of iron

[Anonymous No.]

can i use わし？ i've been watching a lot of samurai movies, and there are many characters using it that aren't much older than 30

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956854
You can use any pronoun you like. Just know that it'll affect the way people interpret what you say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
If you want Anki integration, your only option is Yomichan.

[Anonymous No.]

I just received confirmation that I'll be receiving the monbukagakusho scholarship I applied for. Thank you for your continued support throughout the years DJT, you're my best friend!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955570
How are you enjoying your Russian botnet membership?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956896
お疲れさん！
奨学金はなんぼ？どの資格が必要のん？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956896
おめでとうございます

[Anonymous No.]

literally what the fuck is masamunes water phase

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956854
Do samurai movies have some samurai-specific vocabulary? Frankly I've never watched one, but I'm a bit curious.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow this is embarrassing...

I decided to finally take j-cat and this is my fucking score.

It's strange because I've read and listened a lot. Like thousands of hours of idol variety shows. I've read like 15 light novels and 300+ volumes of manga and a couple visual novels, not to mention lot's of 2ch and hentai.

I feel like an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957072
That's a pretty average score.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957072
tests are weird, it might be just because it's your first attempt

I jumped 50 points between my 1st and 2nd try (with 7 months in between) without doing any major studying

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957072
Tests only test your ability at taking them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955452
I don't use any addons. I look up words I don't know thats it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957050
i think わし was quite often used in the olden times, and is commonly used in some dialects today so it was probably for historical reasons, i'd assume that's not the only historical quirk they (samurai movies) have

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957050
They have some archaic flavour to them, prevalently in the copula. You'll often hear the characters using outdated stuff like でござる and でがんす, but it's still predominantly modern Japanese.

They work much the same as our films with classical settings do, really. When we want to give a historical feeling to a film, we have the characters say the odd archaic word like thou, thee*, etc., but we don't have all the characters going around speaking in full-on Middle English since people would find it very difficult to understand (and Old English, it goes without saying, would be straight-up impossible).

*These are actually still in use in parts of England, and I *think* でがんす might still be used in rural Western Japanese dialects, but don't quote me on that.

[Anonymous No.]

The best archaic copula is ざんす.
でござる is a close second place, though.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the difference between the two versions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957510
The latter makes you sound like a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957548
thanks mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957548
Why so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957579
Because it's wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957591
Thanks for providing a thorough and wonderful explanation as to why it`s wrong! I`m glad /djt/ is around to answer all my questions to make learning Japanese easier!
Fuck you. I'll ask in /int/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957599
not him
2bh it's really "just wrong" as in it looks as if someone miswrote 食べた as 食へた or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957599
Not me, btw.

>>17957591
But yeah, this is not all that helpful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957618
But it was still seen as worthy of a dictionary entry, so what gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957624
after superficially googling I think it's slang from 2chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957638
So it makes you sound like a retard in the same way that normalfag makes you sound like a retard to normal people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957638
Why are they doing that if it's wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957510
Seems to be 2ch slang: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%A4%DE%A4%B9%A4%BF
Someone posted 通報しますた (reported) instead of 通報しました and it became a meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957654
y people talk liek dis :DDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957656
Huh, that's... boring.
Somehow japanese memes are just not up to par compared to ours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957663
what's your favorite /djt/ meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957669
sakubi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957669
zoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957669
I liked DJTの勇者.

[Anonymous No.]

>learn for 2 days
>don't understand anything
Will I ever make it? I feel like a total retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958037
Don't worry. I'm pretty dumb too and while I'm still having trouble in the beginning I'm slowly learning.
Just recently I understood when to use wa or ga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957797
Me too, I also liked make your mother proud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958037
If you're not already fluent after 2 days, then yeah, you're pretty much fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958041
Thank god. I never tested it but I think I am legit sub 100 IQ. Just being aware of being dumb makes it so much harder to learn anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958048
it's probably not as bad as you think
also, only losers who never achieved anything brag about their IQ anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958048
IQ has little to do with language learning. So long as you are not legitimately retarded, "I'm too dumb to learn Japanese" is just an excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957669
ones you make yourself to prove you have at least a shred of originality left

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958048
IQ is a meme.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.3679117/scientists-research-man-missing-90-of-his-brain-who-leads-a-normal-life-1.3679125

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958055
IQ has a lot to do with any kind of subject you are learning since it acts like a exp multiplier and not only that, it's also very motivating when you understand things at a good pace. If you are not downright retarded you can learn most things to some extent, it just will take a lot of time and frustration.

[Anonymous No.]

日本語はどちゃくそ難しい

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958074
I don't know what this article is supposed to prove except that you can lead a normalfag life with a sub 90 IQ which surprises no one here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958077
>IQ has a lot to do with any kind of subject you are learning
Language isn't like other subjects where you consciously use reason and logic to solve problems. All the work in learning a language is going on subconsciously without you even being aware of it. So long as your IQ isn't so low that you are incapable of even communicating normally in your native language, your IQ level is completely irrelevant to the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958109
Now this is total bullshit. IQ includes abstract thinking which is the very first thing you are going to need when learning a new language, or anything new for that matter.

It also includes one of the most important aspects of our mental processing ability, which is working memory. Working memory or mental work space is the biggest bottleneck in information processing, since it actively decides how much information you can hold onto at any given time.

Pattern recognition, short and long term retention and many other things are affected by IQ. There are many other aspects to intelligence that play a role too though.

The things you mean by subconscious learning aka automation trough overlearning and diffuse mode thinking are directly effected by it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958142
my iq isn't high enough to understand this post, so im just going to beat my chest and grunt until you go away

[Anonymous No.]

Noob here. Is there any deeper reason why some emotion have deviations like -しげ while others take the form of -しみ?
I'm talking about 怪しげ, 愛しみ etc.

[Anonymous No.]

how do i join the yakuza

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958173
Nah, my IQ is lower than yours so your grunts will just make me more stubborn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958195
being 在日 is a good start usually

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957669
ゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958180
Those are different things. -げ is an adjective and is roughly similar to -そう (嬉しげ ~ 嬉しそう). -み is a noun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956896
４ねんで８８０まんえんぶんは

ちゃんとはたらいてね

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958247
Much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

しちじだ

がっこいってきまーす

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958360
せいぜい頑張りな

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958360
いってらっしゃい芋卯戸ちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason to use へ? Couldn't I just use に instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>start playing flyable heart in my VM
>damn this is easy, I could almost read this without a text hooker even
>get to explosion scene
>"大丈夫！絶対大丈夫！私必ず助けるから！"
>ブルースクリーン
Is it a sign?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958451
To be more vague.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958451
Yes.
Not always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958451
you would make it sound like your destination then when it's just the direction

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958471
>>17958451
before anyone gets butthurt
the direction and destination often are the same thing but they don't have to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958460
>Is it a sign?
yes, upgrade to win7

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958568
It's win7

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958581
Upgrade to windows 10

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958581
Why are you using a VM in win7 then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958607
The vm is win7

The host... I'd prefer not to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958619
host is OSX, windows 10, or some obscure version of BSD that would out your identity if you said you used it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957599
It's wrong in the same way that "I readed a book". It's an incorrect form of the word.

>>17957624
It wasn't worthy of a dictionary entry. What you screencapped is Jisho's shitty inflection analysis feature. If you want a proper tool to break down infections for you, use Yomichan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958581
I'm going to ask the obvious here just to get it out of the way: Did you install the VirtualBox guest additions with Direct3D support?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958655
Yes, otherwise the game wouldn't even have started. I guess I'll stick with reading VNs on my desktop and read manga in the interim (I'm only home 3 days a week)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958661
It actually would, but the scaling algorithms on the sprites wouldn't work so it would look like crap.

Since you're evasive about stating your host OS, I'm guessing you're using something weird and that the problem is this:
>With this feature, if an application inside your virtual machine uses 3D features through the OpenGL or Direct3D 8/9 programming interfaces, instead of emulating them in software (which would be slow), VirtualBox will attempt to use your host's 3D hardware. This works for all supported host platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris), provided that your host operating system can make use of your accelerated 3D hardware in the first place.
>provided that your host operating system can make use of your accelerated 3D hardware in the first place.
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html

[Anonymous No.]

Why does hentai very frequently use the chau form when someone is cumming? Are they accidentally cumming? Isn't cumming their goal? I feel like every time I see this it makes it hard for me to understand what the chau form really means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958726
you aint reading enough doujins son
cumming is a sport and to win is to be the last to cum

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958726
It's not really something voluntary, you just can't hold back any longer, like when your 腰が勝手に動いちゃう and your 頭が真っ白になっちゃう

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958726
てしまう represents the temporal aspect of closure, completion, cessation, or delimination, as well as the actual perfective aspect where the action is described as a simple whole (not what many Japanese grammar resources use "perfective" to mean).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958726
chau isn't necessarily about regretting something, it's about the finality of an action which can't be taken back

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958726
ended up doing X

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950062
I'm reading 東方香霖堂 right now and ZUN just does this shit all the time. At least I know them now

[Anonymous No.]

>>17947960

>あーくそ
>無意識でこれだからな・・・

MC makes a promise to meet with his love interest after school. But they didn't decide on a place and they couldn't communicate to settle on one, so they both go to the terrace of the school where they used to see each other.
Is this what he means?:

>Oh, shit
>We ended up like this unconsciously

I can't make sense of that これだからな at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958890
Here's more context, but I think I got this.
Is he saying they ended up like that because he was too dumb to remember to settle on a place for their date?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958914
(This is what happened right before MC said the line in question)
I still don't understand what that からな is doing at the end of the sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958889
Yeah, ZUN is really picky about kanji. I don't think I've ever seen him write わかる as 分かる instead of 判る, and I don't remember seeing 所為 in many other things either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958914
Post the actual page with >>17958890
in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958924
>所為
ive seen that a few times and i've read fuck all compared to some people here

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958934
Sorry for the filename.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959003
Aah, damn it. So she's doing this unintentionally, isn't she...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959005
Thanks!
I steal don't quite get what that からな is doing there. It's not like he's stating the reason for anything, implied or not. I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959046
In this context だから is an explanatory tone vaguely similar to one of the uses of のだ, but places the emphasis in a different place (and therefore means something slightly different). な is just an emotive particle.

[Anonymous No.]

Reading manga really drains me. It sucks having to manually type words out to look them up. I'm only managing to get through a few chapters a day because it makes reading feel so tedious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959099
Try splitting reading and grinding vocabulary so you do it less frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959099
use capture 2 text, takes the edge off

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959099
Only look up words you really need to understand what's going on in the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959102
>splitting reading and grinding vocabulary
Don't get what you mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959109
Ankidrone words that you aren't reading yet so that you bump typing words out over and over less and can read more fluidly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959099
get kanjitomo

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959106
>>17959140
>windows only
can't

>>17959108
There is no story as such since it's SoL. And if you aren't going to try to understand what you're reading by looking up words you don't know, then it kind of defeats the point of reading in the first place, doesn't it?

>>17959114
Well, I am mining words that I encounter, but I'm a bit confused by what exactly you're suggesting. Words that I'm not reading yet? If I haven't read a word before then I have no way of knowing if it's even going to be of any use to me or not (and if I haven't encountered it before, that seems to suggest that it's not very useful compared to the ones I have encountered).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959146
>>windows only
>can't
you can but you just won't, do it faggot
ocr is gucci

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959099
Read a LN

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959161
I tried kanjitomo just to be sure, but as expected, it doesn't run.

>>17959175
I had a look through the DJT library but couldn't find anything that seemed interesting. Looks like 99% of LNs are romcom harem shit, and the other 1% is nightmare mode Nisio Isin works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959146
core6k faget

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959207
Read shitty isekai webnovels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959207
Kanjitomo works on linux, what are you running? OSX?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959243
windows 97

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959214
That would be a step backwards.

Core is an arbitrary group of words which were common in newspapers some 30 or 40 odd years ago. You're suggesting I spend nearly a year using this deck instead of mining words from what I'm reading where I know that every single word I add is one that's actually in use in my reading material.

>>17959228
>shitty
You're not exactly selling the idea to me here.

>>17959243
Linux. Doesn't run for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959250
>arbitrary
it's organized by most used to least used. If you want to sit and mine words from a book forever go ahead and do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959207
I'm not really a LN guy but 浮遊学園のアリス&シャーリー is actually pretty fun to read.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't been here in a while, is sakubi any good as a grammar guide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954664
You're fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

I understand that おかしい is used in the same dual meaning as we use "funny", but is it only reliant on context? Is it typically used more like 怪しい half or the humorous half?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959279
I'm not that worried 2bh I can just print out a test voucher

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959260
It does actually sound interesting but it looks like there's only 1 out of the 4 volumes up in the library or the CoR.

I had this problem when I skimmed through looking for stuff before. I did come across a handful of things which sounded good but they were always missing volumes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959259
Not him, but if it's not optimized to focus on unexpected readings and meanings then it's wasting my time to inflate my number of cards and my "retention" of shit that can't even be considered learning.
More importantly, when I encounter a word naturally and look up what it means to understand a sentence I build stronger connections than "time for my daily dump of x new words".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959052
If I'm not asking too much, do you have a link or a book where I could dig deeper into that use of から?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959279
>2 weeks after the application period ends
Mine came last week and that's way over 2 weeks after the application deadline.

[Anonymous No.]

When reading should I be trying to memorize every unknown word I see as I encounter them? I saw a post saying that you need to closely examine each unknown word to actually learn from reading but I'm not sure to what extent I should be doing so. As it is I'm spending minutes on each new word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959539
I take the time to unsuspend it from the mining deck or make the card and then reread the sentence and keep going. Most of the time I'll go back and reread the passage when moving on or stopping for the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956898
nice tinfoil hat
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959569
The fact that you're insecure about your mental health doesn't mean that insecure software isn't insecure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959539
Not if you use Anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959576
Besides criminals being caught by police due to vulnerabilities with ESR releases, what actual concern exists for anyone who does not search for JB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959598
Browser insecurities have almost nothing to do with privacy. All of the critical vulnerabilities on that page can be used to execute arbitrary code, including things like installing ransomware and stealing personal information. Merely by browsing the mainstream internet, you're exposing yourself to advertisements, which can bypass adblockers on sufficiently old browsers, and can otherwise be malicious and deliver malware. You won't know when malware distributors catch up to the version of Firefox you're using until it happens. It could be tomorrow, it might have already happened and you just haven't run into one of their dead drops yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959609
I don't have to worry since I have CommonSense2018 installed. Adblock and NoScript also help

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959629
New version of noscript sucks major dicks. I uninstalled it and just did a universal block of scripts and objects on adblock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959632
dammit, meant ublock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959629
Congratulations, you have zero reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone identify which work the pic related is from? It's on the djt website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959629
>Merely ... mainstream internet ... bypass ... old browsers ... deliver malware.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959609
If worse comes to worst, then I will wipe the HDD and reinstall Windows. That scenario provides extra motivation to mine more and faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959651
Enjoy your identity theft.
>stealing personal information

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959641
Just a picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959641
That image is all kinds of fucked up on the Tomorrow theme.
Oikawa Uso
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1138186

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959646
How do they deliver malware when no ads are loading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959662
>can bypass adblockers on sufficiently old browsers

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959652
So much to lose with seldom accessed accounts using randomly generated names wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959666
>666
thats bullshit but i believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959667
careful now they might be able to access that G+ account you used once to spam dickbutt on everyones circles

[Anonymous No.]

If you only use ff for text hooking, why are you guys worried about viruses? You're not even going to a website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959672
they probably don't know how to get multiple copies of FF running at once

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959671
ok the real losses are my unintellectual property. I dont like that now

[Anonymous No.]

Just run FF in Sandboxie or some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959666
>ad bypassing adblocker
If you know how to do it I bet a lot of people would like to know so they can get their ads past peoples adblockers

Sites can do this but I'm pretty sure just the ad itself isn't able to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959681
>Sites can do this
Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959679
I tried that, ff still detects another client running
the answer is in 32/64 bit versions

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959684
Guess what, none of the sites I visit do this thus the ads can't do shit

[Anonymous No.]

参上の家に参上いたします

[Anonymous No.]

What are your tricks to staying motivated? I'm kind of faltering lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959687
The majority of websites are very insecure and can be hacked to contain malicious code at any time.

[Anonymous No.]

>曰

Why does this kanji exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959728
I read it in a manga aimed at hiigh school students the other day. It appears usually in its 曰く reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959720
Well it's been fine for the past 15 years and I won't care about it until it actually happens. I also don't see what they could realistically do other than make me format and reinstall. I don't do anything money related on this PC

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959734
Tae Kim got hacked to include a bitcoin miner and his forum hacked to contain spyware ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959735
Good thing I don't visit his site then, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>心外にもほどがあることを言って、何故か俺をキッと睨んできた。

I'm having trouble figuring out what the first clause means.
What is the meaning of "心外にもほどがあること"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959715
Watch some videos about Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>明日は遅れるとメールで送ったよ!
>(I) sent by mail that I’m going to be late tomorrow!
This example sentence in Tae Kim confuses me. Can you really tell that the speaker is talking about himself and not somebody else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959757
What if I'm not a weeb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959775
Why are you learning the language if you're not a weeb to some degree?

[Anonymous No.]

受ける
受け取る

what

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959715
Fap to CGs from untranslated eroge and go "damn, if I ain't gonna learn it, I'll never read it".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959775
Look for something you really want to read/play, do so, and feel frustrated by your own lack of ability and being forced to read shitty charage in the meanwhile for practice. That does the trick for me, since I can't be motivated by 3D and its inherent shittiness. Only blind fools can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959784
You'll understand when it's used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958890
Can somebody explain the use of これ in this sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959866
It's indicating the actions of the girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959787
>charage
Why do vnfags use all these dumb terms?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959936
Because people interested in something need more precise terms to talk about it than outsiders need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959936
Did you know that toddlers will call any four legged animal they see "doggie," just because doggie was the first word they learned for that sort of thing, so they're all doggies? You might just be the baby in this scenario, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

>>17959866
「このありさま」のことだよ

これ

あんまりじょうひんなひょうげんではないとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959715
Reading stuff only to find out that the translation died halfway in is a pretty good motivator for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959715
Read stuff that EOP can't read

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960024
This.

To know that I no longer have to depend on some company or some autist to translate stuff for me is all the motivation I need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959787
What's the inverse of a charage?

[Anonymous No.]

マヨネーズかってきた

瓶入りマヨネーズは

もうなくてもいいんじゃないかな

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960039
Monoge

[Anonymous No.]

If I don't use 俺 even with close friends, are people gonna start thinking I'm a fag?
I mean it's not too far from the truth but I'd rather not have people getting any ideas.
I just don't like the really masculine feeling 俺 has.

[Anonymous No.]

プリエって、食べ物的な意味はあるかい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960240
見つけたぞ
http://www.cake-prier.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960235
>close friends
>production
might wanna ask the other thread my dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960248
I didn't imply I have any friends, let alone Japanese ones, but yeah I guess I better ask some natives instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960240
あたしは

プリンたべたい

ないとおもう