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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs up to 1.72:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>New Chat Server info:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535#107

>Previous Thread
>>17782240

Current Version: Elona+ 1.72 (10/8/2017)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.72.1

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.

>> No.17808952

>>17808881
really amazing job on this op image

>> No.17809009

>>17808881
>You're the best! Around! Nothing's ever gonna keep you down!

>> No.17809066

Do I have to turn on the custom AI for my exile to start learning chaos eye?
I'm on 1.72 E+C

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>>17808881

>> No.17809477

>>17809066
You can teach a spell in the same UI but it requires that you have at least lvl 50 on that spell

>> No.17809524

>>17809477
I have it on 50+ and could select it since she was around 20 or so. She is level 51 now and it's still on 0%.

Is there a way to make her cast randomly between the 3 bolt spells she has in the Custom AI?

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>>17809524
The custom AI also has no idea how to walk around obstacles.

It would probably break the game though. Pets know where all the enemies are, they just failed a perception check and can not engage them.

>> No.17809660

>>17809592
pets don't share vision, she has her own vision radius and has no instructions on how to handle not having an enemy in range
have her follow you as a fallback action

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>>17809660
This is her current tactics.
If I set line 9's "toggle preserve entity" to on, would she target me?

>> No.17809729
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I hate this.

>> No.17809746

>>17809729
Dominate those cats and give them to the dog cop for luck training.

>> No.17810146

>>17808881
If the things you put on heads of others have heads, would you put stuff on those heads as well?
Would this continue until every head is covered with a headless object?

>> No.17810381 [SPOILER] 
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>>17810146

>> No.17810413

>>17810381
There's still a head to put things on!

>> No.17811059

>>17809704
>Target Distance > 7: Move (Forward)
The entity for that line is "Target", so preserving the entity as the target would have no effect.
Are you wanting your pet to stay close to you during combat? Here's the command I use to keep my Defender in Healing Rain range:
>Player Distance > 2: Move (Forward), Preserve Entity As Target

>> No.17812225

>>17811059
>Are you wanting your pet to stay close to you during combat?
No, I want that exile not to freeze if her target is on the other side of the map.

>> No.17812278

>>17809524
You should make the new action one of the first, if not the first thing, on the list. Learning progresses every time the AI checks the statement. During the learning phase, there is a % chance of that action actually being used, once it's fully learned you can use it normally.

Also, there's a minimum casting skill requirement for learning spells.

As for using spells randomly, not really, but what you can do is make them use spells intelligently, i.e. if target is element scarred and in range -> ice ball, if target is nightmared and in range -> chaos eye, if self has less than 100% hp and target is in range -> nether arrow or nether wave. Weapons are superior to magic in terms of single target damage, but casters still have some advantages - spells never miss, you can hit up to 10+ targets with AOE, and even highly overleveled panic trashmobs can be crippled with abnormal statuses.

>> No.17812410

>>17812225
The AI will execute the first statement that is valid. If there's a 'doesn't know what to do' freeze, it means either that a condition was met and the action glitched out, usually because the target is invalid, or no condition was met. I like to put in a failsafe statement last that will almost always fire, like

if target distance > 1 -> move forward

Plays for many hours with a party of three pets and never had a freeze. Once you've worked out the kinks, a custom AI with optimized actions is so good you can never go back to standard AI. Just having an evolved little girl cheer at the start of every fight makes such a big difference.

>> No.17812513

>>17809592
i tried to counter this by adding a line that tells a pet to walk towards allies at the end of their list, but would they even reac that line if one of their previous lines can't be excuted (like shooting an enemy they have no fire line to)

>> No.17812615

>>17808881
where is that dragon/demon girl in the top left from?

>> No.17812658

>>17812615
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=6715949&tag=Elona

>> No.17813058

>>17812278
This was helpful!
I didn't know you have to re-initialize actions, therefore chaos eye wasn't on her list.

cheers mate!

>> No.17815717

Yo
I've been playing for like 50 hours now, level 20, have a nice house and decent cash flow (idk how I managed to accomplish so little in so much time). I've only completed up to the tower of fire in the story but I'm already bored of the game, the only things I like doing are getting money, buying furniture and working on my house. What do?

>> No.17815883

>>17815717
as long as you are having fun, keep playing. don't worry, the story will wait for you.
so, where is your house? which servents do you have? what is yur your main source of income?

>> No.17816081

>>17815717
Keep doing what you like. Find better ways to make gold or try to branch out and do other things in the game. I personally don't care much about gold but care about making my character strong. Live in a humble cozy house and dream of crushing the bosses of this game.

>> No.17816246

>>17815883
It's right next to palmia, the only servants I have are the maid and the guard (I just walk to palmia or the embassy to buy shit), cash is from selling random shit in my store, I should probably figure out gardening and making a ranch for better cash. I guess I can make my goal to have a thugnificent small castle to have more tiles, right now I only have a cozy house, mind you it's pimped tf out

>> No.17816262

>>17816246
the mansion is the most profitable without feats like accountent, but i moved away because gods can only become permaguaests in a house of rank 1, which a mansion can never be. palmia lacks a blackmarket, for beter or worse but it got anything else you can get in a house.

which creature are you planing on putting in you ranch?

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>> No.17817929

Does anyone have the monster girl sprite sheet updated for 1.7?

>> No.17818107
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>> No.17818582

What's something good to use the Astral Light Pen on? I hear Big Daddies get a huge nerf because of the god penalty and I personally want get Guin (Leopard Warrior) from the Smoke and Pipe one day but I'm nowhere near his level yet (I'm level 47).

>> No.17818629

>>17818582
Exossil

>> No.17818641
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>> No.17818934

>>17818107
So is it a retarded shield or does it shield you from retards?

>> No.17818960

>>17818934
If you wield it like a shield you're a retard.

>> No.17818975

>>17818960
Retard wielding Retard shield as a shield being protected from retards.

>> No.17819045
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>>17818975
But if a retard wields the Retard Shield as a shield will they be shielded from their own retardation?

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>>17819045
>The platina bell runs away in terror.
Even with 678 speed he can never run away from himself

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>>17819238

>crab size of a foot ball stadium

>19206 pounds

>> No.17819488

>>17812658
thank you based anon.

>> No.17819503
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17819503

what???

>> No.17819611

>>17819503

This sometimes happens to me whenever I load my savefile.

>> No.17819650

>>17819611
That's the game trying to access the old chat server and failing.

>> No.17819671

>>17819650
i see, so i just turn network connection off.
it started happening when my pc started having internet troubles, should have kniwn.

>> No.17820161

so im thinking of equip updates for 2 of my living weapons, and i kinda wondered what do you guys think is the best bow type and xbow type? i think long bow is better han the other 2 because the negative hit chance can be a chore, but how do i know if my black cat can handle a bow with negative hit? for xbow, im also kinda wonderingg between normal xbow, reapeting bow and balista. weight is not an issue as the pet im giving my living xbow to is good with heavy armor and don't mind training weight lifing but maybe the other xbow types bring more merit?

>> No.17820973
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17820973

Hm, what kind of magic is that?

>> No.17821303

>>17820973
Old School magic.

>> No.17821641
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>>17820161
Adamantium shortbow is +15 accuracy, 3d15+11 damage. Adamantium longbow is +7 accuracy, 2d21+29 damage. Adamantium skullbow is -22 accuracy, 1d51+37 damage.
Skullbow has the best DPS. No idea whether the accuracy penalty has a noticable effect or not.
I've never looked into crossbows. I'll get back to you.

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>>17820161
>>17821641
Adamantium crossbow is +7 accuracy, 1d66+22 damage. Adamantium repeating bow is +3 accuracy, 7d12+14 damage. Adamantium ballista is -7 accuracy, 1d84+18 damage.
A ballista technically does more damage on average than a repeating bow, but the difference is fairly negligible, and a repeating bow's damage has less variation. There's also the fact that it weighs about 1/6 as much, of course.

>> No.17821766

>>17821641
>>17821725
well thanks
the accuracy is important. i can see the skull bow is the strongest but if it wil hit only half as much as a longbow than im in trouble.
a reapeting bow is better than a balista... well pity, balista is much cooler. oh well. thanks for the info.

ps. why didn't you take piercing into account?

>> No.17821890

>>17821766
>why didn't you take piercing into account?
I forgot. Also, I honestly don't have a good grasp of how much of an effect piercing typically has on combat. (Aside from 100% pierce's guaranteed *vorpal* which, if memory serves, makes lightsabres do more damage on average than claymores according to Kai.)
If pierce is crucial, then a ballista's 40% would make it much better than a repeating bow with only 5%.

>> No.17822085

For non-god race bosses, how does Rod of Domination affect their stats when you tame them versus Astral Light Pen + several gifts?

>> No.17822150

>>17822085
Aren't those two mutually exclusive? I'm pretty sure Domination only works on things that you swap places with if you move into them, and an ALP only works on things that you talk to if you move into them.

>> No.17822167

>>17822150
That doesn't really have anything to do with my question... I'm asking about the stat differences when using one versus using the other.

>> No.17822258

>>17822167
There is absolutely nothing statistically different between different methods of acquiring new NPCs. The only caveat is monster balls, which spawns a new version of the monster which means it could be a different gender/have different body parts if a mutant than the original.

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>> No.17822805

>>17808881
What's a good race to play thief?

>> No.17822854

>>17822805
Elea if you want spellcasting, Goblin if you don't.

>> No.17823250

Does somebody have Virgin vs Chad Elona pic? Nobody posts it outside /jp/.

>> No.17823547

Can you change how spells look? Like their color and stuff? How would you go about this?

>> No.17823557

>>17823250
Might have to dip into the archives or warosu to find the pic of that.

>> No.17823786

Is healing and buffing with potions viable in late game? I'm using heavy armor and casting looks impossible for now.

>> No.17823826

>>17823786
Yes, potions and rods are just as good.

>> No.17823881
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>>17823547
I've dabbled a bit in it while I was testing things from the chinese modpack in the mod pastebin. To do so you'll have to track down the spell animation in the graphics folder. For instance anime5.bmp is the animation for the ball spells such as magic storm, ice ball, fireball, etc. Open up the picture of the animation you want in your editing software of choice like Gimp and change what you want. It should be noted that most of the animations are death animations tied to a specific element of spell or are special action related.

I dabbled in changing my ball spell animation by giving my character a magic crest that expands out from him and changing up the looks of the cast animation. I found that you're limited in your color choice for ball spells at least unless you want it to look odd. Want to go with yellow or white because something in the code will alter the colors for when you cast fireball, thunder vortex, and other elemental spells. Oddly iceball is the same color as magic storm. At any rate, after I changed anime5 I also dabbled in changing some of the death animations. Like the fire death animation. So I tweaked anime20.

>> No.17823904

>>17820973
Russian magic

>> No.17823972
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Nice.

>> No.17824237

Anyone used to hang out in the old /vg/ general years ago? It must have been 5 or 6 years at least now.
Something happened to my old images from those days and I'd like to replace them. Like the cute translation inforgraphs when people were first discovering Elona+ and all that.

>> No.17824290

>>17824237
Nope, i've been with /jp/'s Elona threads since like 2009.

>> No.17824297

>>17824290
Has this general been around that long? I migrated here a bit after the /vg/ generals died. I'm surprised the Elona+ guys haven't invited some people from here to contribute to development.

>> No.17824390

if im using a living weapon in equip making would the resulting itemms also be living weapons?

>> No.17824394

Hey I've just started playing and I need a bit of help.
My pet little girl has a cursed item equipped that I can't take off and the mage shop person who uncursed didn't do anything (I'm guessing it only effects me)
How do I uncurse/remove it?

>> No.17824401

>>17824297
It wasn't a general back then.

>> No.17824417

>>17824394
the shop doesn't remove curses on allies? i was sure it worked as long as you have the pet nearby and in line of sight.
anyway, try giving her scroll of uncurse/vanish curse.
if i doesn't work, try blessing the scroll and than giving it to her.
if it doesn't work, try using rod of uncurse on her.
if that doesn't work, try casting uncurse on her.

how far are you in the game? perhaps in this point its better to just start a new one?

>> No.17824424

>>17824394
I thought the priest fixes that for you, not the magic shop

>> No.17824449

>>17824394
try riding her and thn speak to the priest again.

>> No.17824511

>>17824417
I got her closer to me and it worked this time.
>>17824424
I'm using the healer who hangs out at the magic shop. (Maybe it's an Elona+ thing.)
>>17824449
>try riding her
I'm having a lot of fun with this game even though it's quite confusing.

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>>17824511
once you get the riding skill you can use the 'riding' action to ride your pets (or have your pets ride you).

pic related is a pc riding a dinosaur

>> No.17824519

>>17824511
Oh right. I'm in E+ as well, I guess I just misunderstood where your character was

>> No.17824531

>>17824516
Neato.
>>17824519
I should have said, I'm level four and still hanging round Vernis.
Do pickaxes help with mining? I'm grinding that a bit to raise my constitution and save my pp (heh) for other skills.

>> No.17824550

>>17824531
1. the answer is no
2. are you a goblin theif?
3. wielding con based weapons, like clubs or staffs, also train constitution

>> No.17824559

>>17824550
1. Damn, cause it's taking ages.
2. I'm a Juere Gunner.
3. Mostly using guns but I'll get a blunt melee.

>> No.17824576

>>17824559
>gunner
whats your equipment weight? if your total equip weight is above 15s than you are considered madium/ heavy armored and train con simply by moving around. equiping a shield also helps. don't bother etting a weapon, it hardly trains if you aren't using one.

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>>17824559
also, eating bread is good for your con.
which god are you planing on worshipping?

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>>17824576
26 it's calling me medium so that's cool.
>>17824594
I have no idea dude I haven't looked into it yet.

>> No.17824618

>>17824610
it seems your con potential is bad. maybe you should let it raise a bit before training it?

also, cool sprite men.

>> No.17824631

>>17824610
may i interest you in our lord and savior, ehektel?

>> No.17824632

>>17824618
Yeah I'm off doing other stuff now and thanks.

>> No.17824655

>>17824631
Nope, gonna go with Opatos.

>> No.17824746

>>17824655
i was sure a begginer IDF would go with mani... why opatos?

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Holy crap my 13M disappeared without me noticing. I'm always wearing a "protect from thieves" equipment so I have no way to lose that much money. I really doubt that event could reap that much money from me anyway. What the hell happened? No, I didn't die at all

>> No.17824772

>>17824767
what did you do between the last time you were sure to have the money untill the moment you discovered its gone? you might have donated some to beggers.

>> No.17824786

>>17824772

I doubt it's a beggar event since it has dialogues so I should have noticed it and I don't think 1 beggar event can reap out 13M from me in one go from my 17M anyway. I never use kitty banks either since that's the only closest thing that could get a lot of money in one misclick (do 5M Kitty banks still exist?).

This is legit spooky.

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>>17824786

Oh, I think it was those 1.2M and 12M tax certificates. I used both of them ffs

>> No.17824858

>>17823557
Alright, thanks.

>> No.17824892

>>17823881
Wouldn't this affect all other NPCs too? So will every NPC that casts a ball spell get that magic crest thing too?

>> No.17825577

>>17824594
Where's Itzpalt and Yacalect.

>> No.17825716

>wishing for 'living weapon'
>'a livestock feed appears!'
what is good wish?

>>17825577
>yacalect
she is the one taking the picture

>itzpalt
he is not in a good posion to insert into the pic.

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>>17825577
>Itzpalt
Right below Jure's non-existent tits.
>Yacalect
Stealing goddess feathers in Jure's house to craft dakimakuras to Jure fanatics.

I believe this image is based on vanilla Elona, Itzpalt didn't had a proper avatar/statue back then (summoning him with a wish would give you a Kiwi in the japanese version) and Yacalect was just a placeholder lost in the game's code.

>> No.17825799

>>17825784
>>itzpalt was a kiwi in vanilla elona
>>Itzpalt Right below Jure'\ tits
>jure is holding a winged kiwi
clever

>> No.17825814

>>17823881
Can you tell me exactly what mods you're using for that UI, spell effects and tileset?

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>>17825814
I believe you can find most of his stuff on Tieba, Chinese Anon and Beautify packs (check OP's modding pastebin for links).
His UI appears to be "hand-crafted" (edited the interface.bmp with an image editor to edit each element individually, using various custom UI images from these packs), and possibly the rest of his custom stuff too. Get ready for some multi-layer action on gimp/paint.net/etc.

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>>17818107
How do you do, fellow retard?

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http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)#1.73

>Removed the game mechanic that gave a 1 to 1/3 satiety-dependent multiplier to experience gained when eating without any of the "Hungry" statuses. This multiplier is now fixed at x3 for food that is not rotten, and x1 for rotten food.

Wait...if i'm reading this correctly
That means that exp gained from food has been trippled across the board effectively?

Stat gain have just gotten quicker?

>> No.17826699

>>17826577
Seems I made the right decision to wait for the update.

>> No.17826807

>corpse of sandworm
>44.0s
>after carrying around in my container for a while while being burden! and very slow i became hungery
>just cook all the meat i had in the cooler box
>without noticing i cooked the worm as well
its like that time when i left a dungeon but forgot to put big daddys corpse in the cooler.

>> No.17826878

How do I get NPCs like gwen up to high enough relationship level to use astral light pen? The wiki says use love potions but I don't think I've encountered a singal love potion in my 120 hours of gameplay, where I find them?

>> No.17826911

>>17826878
Magic stores but those only work up to 100 so you should use gifts instead

>> No.17826941

>>17826911
where I get gifts?

>> No.17827038

>>17826941
General (rarely) or souvenir stores, but prepare a LOT of gold in latter case.

>> No.17827062

>>17826911
There are also Tokens of Friendsip, but those work only if target's relationship is already at least "friend".
Pros: nearly weightless, you can make them yourself.
Cons: require a Small medal per Token, require all four crafting skills.

>> No.17827074

>>17824746
Easy offerings and most of my trouble is with survivability not damage.

>> No.17827105

Fun fact: if a shade imitates a friendly creature it becomes friendly too.

>> No.17827118

I heard that what's in bejeweled chests is determined at their spawn now and taking them different places doesn't help you get better drops, is that true?

>> No.17827129

What's the best creature to use in a ranch?

>> No.17827172

>>17827129
Rabbits breed as fast as you imagine and may drob rabbit tails with increase luck by 1.
Fairies' corpses give magic resistance, which is temporary on you (until a dream takes it away) but permanent in pets.

>> No.17827223

What's the best material for different weapons?

>> No.17827256

>>17827172
Fairies also drop feat-granting items rarely.

>> No.17827261

>>17827223
Also should I bless all weapons and armors?

>> No.17827277

>>17827261
It's equivalent to one more level of enchantment, so it's nice if you have plenty of blessed water.

>> No.17827288

>>17827261
>>17827277
And you get your patron god to really pay attention to you.
That or thiefs, always some fucker staring at you from nowhere.

>> No.17827567

what are your guys' prefered pets?

>> No.17827575

>>17827129
If you want the absolute fastest breeding, it would be a rat. But as far as I know there are no actual bonuses from those.
The question is what sort of drop you want/stats you want to train.

>> No.17827600

>>17827575
>But as far as I know there are no actual bonuses from those.
If you're patient enough to get best spawn by scouting for fat and fertile offspring then you can farm decent drops from them for selling.
Otherwise 2nd best pics are rabbits and puttits.

>> No.17827628

Why do moon gates never work for me? It just shows a screen with no options, internet is enabled in my options

>> No.17827646

where do you guys put your houses and why?

>> No.17827658

>>17827628
Moongate servers went down a while ago, they're useless now.

>> No.17828130
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I don't get what some of spawnType. do in custom NPC file.
1 Special
2 Normal (unique)
3 Special (unique)
These ones in particular.

>> No.17828445

I noticed in some people's screenshots that when examining items the ### will have an exact number value next to it. How do you get that? I think someone said the objet of heart but I've got that and I'm not seeing it.

>> No.17828748

>>17826878
try making flower bonquats in the pot of fusion. tere is a minimum level of friendship for them to work, but after that its the easiest way to raise impression.

>> No.17828769

>>17808881
What's the source on the lower left?

>> No.17828800

>>17827567
young lady. after giving her alchemy her potion throws are really fun.

>>17827646
near lumiest, or rather near the silent graveyard, where im close enough to both lumiest and the workshop.

>> No.17828940
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>>17824892
Yes. It appears that anything that uses anime5 will use it. Pets and monsters alike. It was pretty cool to see magic crests go off when I fought some Elea wizards. Really felt like a mage duel. It's a bit odd seeing it go off for say when a kamikaze yeek explodes. It's really cool how much you can edit the look of things but it could be even better if we could do the assigning of the anime files ourselves. So we can give unique animations to certain actions and characters.

I went back to the default ball animations but I kept the conflagration death animation because I thought it looked pretty cool and it goes well with what my meteor now looks like. I took my magic crest picture and applied it to my buff animations.

>>17825814
I'm mainly using stuff I've found in the chinese modpack which should be in the mod pastebin linked in OP. There's a lot of crossover between beautify and the other sprite/graphic overhaul compilation packs since all of them draw from similar sources. I just use the chinese one because it's the biggest that I know of. I'm still sorting through it. Aside from that, I'm using pictures/sprites I find doing google search and editing them for use in the game. My monster and item tilesheets draw on other spritesheets I've seen. Like others I cherry pick what I like and stitch them into my own.

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>>17828445
Here's your problem.

>> No.17829021

>>17826577
>NPCs that have 100% or more gauge, are in combat, have yet to transform, and have a usable shift core in their inventory will now automatically use it to transform.
So it's now possible to play Elona+ as a Power Rangers team? Awesome.

>> No.17829025

>>17828942
ah, thanks a lot

>> No.17829312

>>17828769
Gal Training

>> No.17829492

I just read a deed of heirship and theres no items in the trunk.

>> No.17829553

>>17829492
Congratulations.

>> No.17829644

>>17829492
deed of heirships aren't used like that. if you ever
start an adventure as your own kid you than can use the deed to get an item you (the parent) had. that way newly created characters can get endgame items or simply items you normally don't have as a astarter, like heart of evolution, 7 leaguh boots etc. you can choose any item the parent had on person when making the gene.

>> No.17829951
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17829951

What did she mean by that?

>> No.17830225

i want to make a <little sister> a parament part of my party, what good skills to give her other than marksman/tactics/dualwield and two hand?

>> No.17830857

Is the 1.73 download not working for anyone else?

>> No.17830891

>>17830225
All of them. Not joking, all of them will be trained by Traveling (get that one first) and will contribute to stat and exp gain. You'll want the gene machine and scrolls of ally, slaves or a shade ranch.

>> No.17830916

>>17830891
but i don't want to get skills that i don't intend to use and will just take away the travel training.

>> No.17830925

>>17830916
Traveling experience gained does not factor in the character's number of skills. So there is no downside to having more.

>> No.17830941

>>17830225
Don't forget farming, which is especially good to have early on for the creation of potential potions.
Its only obtainable through farmer npcs and scrolls of attribute though...

>> No.17830954

>>17830941
You mean gardening, and ents have it. I think skogsra or whatever they're called give it before carpentry.

>> No.17830997

>>17830954
Yeah, yeah gardening. But really? Ents!? Where the hell have I been?

>> No.17831005

>>17830997
It was an update that also gave nurses gene engineering.

>> No.17831037

>>17830925
i thought that if i gain travel exp in one skill it means another skill didn't get exp? are they divided equally?

>>17830941
>farmers
ill just go dominate one off yowyn. but why is gardening so important for pets?

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>>17831005
So all I needed was to simply update and I wouldn't have to had extincted all the poor farmers. Great, now I feel like shit...
>>17831037
With gardening, pets can acquire more rare materials, than the PC ever could, for faster item creation. The sap of yaggdrasil (for potential and jure potions), for example, are much harder to find by yourself.

>> No.17831274

>>17831037
If your travel time and traveling skill meant you would get 10 exp total, each individual skill will get 10, whether you have 5 or 20 skills. It is not divided. This change to the original Traveling skill was made quite a while ago in the early stages of E+.

>> No.17831275

help! i gave my black cat bewitch via shop skills and now she spends all her time begging monsters for money instead of fighting them! what do?

>> No.17831327

>>17831275
If you play custom you can use a custom AI or if you want to use the standart AI you can make her forget the skill.

>> No.17831337
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17831337

I used rod of alchemy on my favorite sword to see if it would retain the attributes and it saved after it turned it into a garbage sword....

>> No.17831372

>>17831327
i stopped using custom AI because it felt wrong to have my slaves go against their nature like that.

>>17831337
next time don't experiment on your important items.

>> No.17832079
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17832079

Is there another download for Elona+ 1.73?

axfc doesn't work, dropbox is slower than molasses to update, and there's no alternate download anywhere.

>> No.17832181

>>17829312
Thanks m8

>> No.17832230

>>17829951
Did you drop a silver axe... Or did you drop a golden axe?

>> No.17832361

When a new release comes out, without a custom to go along with it, do you guys hold out to update? Or do you lose whatever things the custom version brought/not use custom at all?

>> No.17832363

>>17832230
>teleports behind you
psh nothing personel

>> No.17832369

>>17832079
https://bloodyshade.no-ip.org:42333/ElonaCustom/Elona+/elonaplus1.73.zip
https://bloodyshade.no-ip.org:42333/ElonaCustom/Elona+%20Custom/1.73/ElonaCustom%201.73.1.7z

>> No.17832623

>>17832230
It was my earth axe <Hopeless Retard> actually.

>> No.17832635

>>17832623
Ah, you mean this? <normie wREEEEcker> axe?

>> No.17832913

So im at -71 karma on a level 4 character. Do I just make a new one? I cant be bothered to grind out my performer skill on another character though. what the hell do i do

>> No.17832922

>>17832913
>criminal pianist
Fuck the law become a bandit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2kJYwFoZGE

>> No.17832928

>>17832922
Mandela effect man, I swear the was played on the piano.

>> No.17832937

>>17832922
how do i become a bandit

>> No.17832959

>>17832937
Have negative karma

>> No.17832979

>>17832959
desu i just wanna amass a fortune playing at parties and then open a store and live a comfy shopkeep life

>> No.17833025

>>17832979
Makes sense. The only issue is leveling instrument skill takes a very long time and it's deadly at the early levels. Might I suggest capturing a putit, or a rat and putting it into a ranch. Come back a few months later and you'll have heaps which you can play for. They shouldn't kill you and it'll up your skill a lot

>> No.17833029

>>17833025
Im actually doing decently not getting killed, somehow. Karma is the problem now though. Can't fucking go anywhere.

>> No.17833045

>>17833029
Find a disguise kit, or a lot of them, and use them before you enter a town. You can do quests that way to raise karma. You can also go into a dungeon, puppy cave is a good one since it's infinite, and keep walking around until you get the dead body random event. Bury the body for +5 karma

>> No.17833051

>>17833045
Where? Literally level 4 character lmao

>> No.17833056

>>17833051
Puppy cave is the cave right SE of vernis

>> No.17833139

>>17833051
Fair warning, you might struggle with it. If your pet dies you'll need to go to town to get them back, so be extra careful in combat. Throw any gear you get onto you and your pet to keep your survivability up

>> No.17833145

>>17833139
Thats okay, I have 20 charisma and 4 pets. Im set.

>> No.17833153

>>17833139
Also, Im a fucking fairy, I get one shot by everything. Gotta be extra careful.

>> No.17833160

>>17833145
very nice. You'll enjoy them leveling up so much faster than you, so you can focus on being comfy while they are your bodyguards. Get them all the pickpocket, cooking, tailoring, farming skills when you can
>>17833153
Ouch

>> No.17833171

>>17833160
Yeah it sucks. Gonna be nice to be a pianist fairy shopowner though. How do I get them abilities/equip them with items though? Still very new to elona.

>> No.17833182

>>17828940
Those are some wicked looking fire spells. Making my own crest for my Mage. Any tips on that? If I can't get mine looking good any ideas what I can use for buff animations? Ever get your workshop set up? I need room ideas for my castle. They're just too big and I end up using only a fraction of the space for living and decorating because I'm not too creative.

>> No.17833260

>>17833171
Check the wiki for further details, but you press 'G'ive and then select your pet (they need to be adjacent). Then you can select the item you want to give them and press '9' (if you are playing on a numpad) to view their items. As for abilities, you'll need to do a quest to get a gene machine. And then you capture (or buy slaves) with the ability you want and merge them with the pet you want to give the ability to. The wiki has the exact abilities from which creature and all the important stuff, so definitely read up there for how to do it exactly.

>> No.17833303

>>17833260
Fair enough. I dropped my piano in the dungeon. My only lifeline. My only source of bread. Its over.

>> No.17833311

>>17833303
You left it behind and changed floors? RIP. You can buy another one or kill bards until you get the best instrument in the game (a unique violin)

>> No.17833317

>>17833311
No I died and it dropped. Sucks.

>> No.17833342

>>17833317
Same thing in the end. You could reroll a new character. Fairy's are hard to play for beginners with their size, health, and strength weaknesses. But if you're set on that route, remaking your character will make your karma issues go away. Then you can do easy quests before going into the cave

>> No.17833348

>>17833342
Yeah already rerolling. Not gonna play fairy again lmao. Dead set on pianist, though.

>> No.17833496
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>>17833182
Don't make the design too complicated since you're only working with 96x96 sprites in 5 frames. There's plenty of cool looking crests if you do a google image search if you need inspiration. You could even use some of them but be aware that the game does not handle glow or complicated color gradients well so you may need to edit them. Simple designs that use few colors will probably work best for a crest.

Auras can work well for buff animations. There's a good one in the chinese modpack that I've been using after I changed its color. Might want to check that out. So far I'm debating whether to use this aura of sorts or the crest I made.

As for my workshop it kind of ended up a magical lab of sorts. After I expanded my character's room I made a room to the side for crafting. It has work tables for all the crafting tools and a cauldron in the middle. I took the pot for fusion and replaced its sprite by using Garok's services. Decided to create a crafting room so I wouldn't carry around tools anymore. Been trying to find ways to reduce my inventory so I have more room to loot stuff. My goal, even though I'm playing loss mode, is to try to get as close to playing with abnormal mode's inventory restrictions. If I can do that then I could say I've solved some of my hoarding problems.

>> No.17834602

>>17833348
so what did you roll in the end? how did it play so far?

>> No.17834766

How do I stop this new distracted debuff? Fuck

>> No.17834776

>>17834766
stop smoking lol
there are spells that remove debuffs (like holy light) and spells that protect from debuffs (like holy vail)

>> No.17834782

>>17834776
>smoked once because I was curious what the item did
not even once children, not even once

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wtf where did the water came from?

>> No.17835693

>>17835614

>>17835614

A friendly monster that looks like a flower and spawns water around it for some reason

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>>17835693

>every single patch there's another dumb "new" monster duplicate # 154941 with forgettable skills and abilities
>have to look at the wiki every single time whenever I farm AP/jewels

Just give the game an ingame Pokedex or something already holy shit

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>>17836134
>>have to look at the wiki every single time whenever I farm AP/jewels
why? aren't the old methods working anymore?

>> No.17836509

>the blessed eternal force shot gun <memory virgin> (4d13+6) (11)
eternal force? well thats something new
>it is made of crystal
cool
>30% pierce
heh
>cold damage
nice start
>it maintains charisma
bah
>it maintains magic
bah
>it makes you a better swimmer [##]
oh golly
>it makes you a better traveler [#]
well, it stacks i guess...
>it improves your shield skill [##]
i wield a shield but the skill is nearly useless.
>it makes you better at weight lifting [##]
any point counts here, really.
>it increases your speed by 5
good
>it increase your mag by 3
sure why not
>it provides proximity assist weapon
wait what
>it increase your chance to deliver critical hits
yeah shot guns tend to do that... what do you mean proximity- oh wait there is another page
>it nagates the effect of fear
>it nagetes the effect of confusion
>it nagates the effect of blindness
yay!~
>it prevents you from teleporting
bummer.
>the enemy dies
wat

>> No.17836541

>>17836509
>pressing t
>use what
>invoke a non-discriminatory, map wide magiic attack? this can only be used once per eternal force weapon
ok
what was that
since wen we had such a feature

>> No.17836911

>>17836541
>>the enemy dies

>> No.17837237

>>17836541
It's a screen nuke that does cold damage, and changes nearby map tiles to be icy. Don't use it though, it removes the eternal force affect and isn't super strong.

>> No.17837275

>>17837237
the wiki page says it also inflicts dead word upon activition, and that its map nukee rather than screen nuke.

>> No.17837403

>>17837275
Yeah. I personally see it as the ice elemental nuke to meteor's fire and Mani Gem's electric.

>> No.17837409

What does the fire around the clock mean?

>> No.17837441

>>17837409
Nefia fever, not sure of the exacts but more items/materials drop in the random dungeons. Or something like that.

>> No.17837475

>>17837441
Ah thanks.

>> No.17837578

How do I get NPC's to refresh their stock? I need to cure my fucking ether disease.

>> No.17837718
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>>17837578
Come back in about three days after you look at their inventory. They'll refresh what they have. If you have Elona Custom it provides an actual countdown of when they'll refresh.

>> No.17837731

>>17837718
Oh alright. Do quests follow the same principle? I need to refresh quests often so I can play at parties and earn boatloads.

>> No.17837770

>>17837731
Yes about 3 or 4 days for job board stuff to refresh completely. No visual timer for that though but you'll notice as the days pass quests added to the board. Also if you haven't exhausted your free casino chips you're given when you use the casino table, you can play blackjack and try to win a potion of cure corruption. You will need to win 4-5 times off one chip though. You can also buy potions of cure corruption from Miral for 10 small medals if you have medals to burn or it's an emergency.

>> No.17837961

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elements
What is active death vs passive death?

>> No.17837999

I am now struggling to pay my taxes, tried to do a trick that was on the wiki that i found to be outdated which drained my fortune away. Got killed by a guard in Noyel only to find out im 5 months behind on taxes.

>> No.17838007

>>17837731
Quests slowly regen over time though. You might get new quests while doing some in the same town same day, and quests you plan to accept later may suddenly disappear within the same day too.

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>>17838007
>check job board
>see quest to retrieve rod of magic missile
>ezpz
>use carpentry set I carry for just this purpose to make rod
>open job board again
>quest is gone

>> No.17838333

>>17838313
Other adventurer probably thought ezpz too, took the quest, and made the rod right in front of the guy.

>> No.17838379

>>17838313
Sorry anon. I got to that quest first. Need to be faster in accepting those quests or you're going to be left in the dust.

>> No.17838445

>>17838313
>see quest and accept it
>talk to Duck (my pet goose)
>Duck hands me the rod out of his backpack used for storing useful magic items
>Complete the quest
You should get your very own goose. Please make your way to your nearest yacatect shrine to begin the process today!

>> No.17838602

>>17808881
So is there an ending for the main quest in elona? Just got to act 3 and the game feels really unfinished.

>> No.17838625 [DELETED] 

>>17838602
That's because it's unfinished. The final boss was added very recniggently.

>> No.17838677

>>17838602
That's because it's unfinished. Act 3's final boss was added very recently.

>> No.17838691

>>17838677
Oh ok. Guess I'll take a break here. There's a long grind to the next main dungeon, and I'm only lvl 67.

>> No.17838696

>>17838602
The game is a work in progress. There's a lot of content and things to do but as far as the story goes it's not finished and continues to be worked on.

>> No.17838705

>>17838691
>act 3
>level 67
I must either be doing something wrong or trying to get a leveling groove going at the expense of going through the game. I'm 50 and have barely dipped into act 2

>> No.17838723

>>17838705
No you're fine. People just play the game very differently. That other guy probably only did the story and didn't really explore much else. Probably hasn't tried to kill chaos fort bosses and other optional stuff.

>> No.17838771

>>17838723
I suppose that's true. I guess for my case I'm trying to understand leveling. I mean, I get it but I don't GET it. How often do others go back to harvest plants and stuff on their farms? Do fully grown plants die if you wait too long?

>> No.17838781

>>17838705
I'm level 53 and just finished act 2 thanks to my fully evolved fire dragon and the coffin of necromancy monsters (with the necromantis).

>> No.17838793

>>17838771
They don't die when fully grown so you're not really pressured to harvest them exactly when fully grown. They can and some do die as they go through the growing process however.

>> No.17838807

>>17838781
Neat. I'm trying to get the smash tonfa from some tour guide in act 2, but she destroys me. I love martial arts
>>17838793
Right, I knew the second bit. I guess I was worried that me going into act 2 for many in game months would have me come back to see all of my precious gem, artifact, and other seeds dead from lack of harvesting.

>> No.17838917

Where does one get a wood piece?

>> No.17839029

FUCK a halloween kid came I said trick and he lit himself and my house on fire.

>> No.17839031

>>17827567
The cute girl ones.

>> No.17839046

>>17839029
>another one comes
>treat this time please don't light my house on fire
>he screams for a guard and I lose karma

holy fuck what a shit holiday I hope every child in this game dies

>> No.17839057

>>17839046
Always have some cooked candy before entering your home during Halloween.

>> No.17839060

>>17839057
Is it the entire month?

>> No.17839072

>>17839060
Yep.

>> No.17839095

>>17839046
I'm egging your house tomorrow. This tight ass didn't actually have any candy in his inventory to give to us.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Halloween_children

t.angry Palmia child

>> No.17839229

>>17838917
Any random chunk of wilderness.

>> No.17839573
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17839573

I decided to write another custom tone file for Elona+, this time around the ever popular Black Angel
https://pastebin.com/8zDtcRZ0
This tone text is made for the latest version of Elona+ (v1.73)

As before, I try to keep a vanilla interpretation of the NPCs in mind. Thankfully compared to the previous ones I wrote, Black Angel does have a few default lines and a general fan consensus on her personality. I have also since discovered that those cards ingame have lore descriptions on them for every NPC in this game, they're just in JPN version only. Now i have more to work with.

Card description says she's an egotistic sadist with a hint of eroticism in her, similar to her Goddess Lulwy, which is pretty much how i always seen it.
In my headcanon I also think she's sort of a secret masochist as well as she's still a servant to said sadist Goddess and may have suffered/witnessed (and enjoyed) abuse.
...And also daydreams bout lewd stuff, like her OTP Mani X Lulwy.

>> No.17839574
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Why is my stuff getting minuses, is it degrading/breaking down?

>> No.17839575
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>>17839573
As usual:
- I'm no writer, so suggestions, improvements and grammar corrections would be appreciated
- I borrowed some stuff from the Generic Dialogue banter
- Still needs some playtesting to know if the text flows well
- The Japanese text is still default

I feel i had a tougher time with this. For example, to be honest, I feel like I if I didn't say this was a Black Angel tone file, you could substitute it for Lulwy or something. Might be just a result of overlap between similar characteristics, which is why I tried implementing a bit of headcanon.

Also, I have updated the previous tone files I wrote (Little Girl, Young Lady, Golden Knight) for v1.73 with the inclusion of new text for when allies use shift cores to transform! They're sorta simple for now until I think of something more clever, then I'll update them more later.
They're available in mod pastebin.

>> No.17839624

>>17839574
Most likely due to acid damage, acidproofing it prevents this from happening

>> No.17839646

>>17839624
Oh yeah that'd be handy thanks, how do you do that?

>> No.17839659

>>17839646
You need to find a vial of acid proof liquid then you mix it 'B' with the item you want to make acid proof

>> No.17839715

>>17839659
Right that's rather obvious, I thought those Xproof potions boosted resistance.

>> No.17839728

>>17839715
Nope. One for fire and one for acid. I think they work for purging alien babies too, but don't quote me on that.

>> No.17839750

>>17837999
if you dont have money, go get some. derphy is a safe place for you.
if you have money get the taxbox from the workshop
if you have lots of money, you can go to the church in noyel to get rid of your negative karma.

>>17839575
what other costums did you make?

>> No.17839763

What is your prefered melee style/weapon?
What is your prefered ranged style/weapon?

>> No.17839777

>>17839763
Tonfa/fists for melee
Panties for ranged, because it's hilarious

>> No.17839815

>>17839763
Last time I played I used scythes/polearms and Yacatect's coin.

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>>17839750
I didn't make any costumes for Halloween.
But you can sre the other stuff I've wrote in the Elona mod pastebin in OP under Talk/Tone section.

...or just my pastebin account profile.
https://pastebin.com/u/MoloMowChow

>> No.17839898

>Neither the player nor NPCs can absorb stamina from targets that have 0 or less stamina.
Well, at least Drain Blood's infinite stamina battery lasted a long time.

>Converge Breath of the player's summoned undead will no longer hit the player and pets.
Oh yes. Guess Eye isn't the mandatory necro remodel anymore. The Bone must be happy.

>painting of ehekatl and swordfish
>Placing it in your home will prevent beggars, citizens, punks, Mysterious Producer, and adventurers with low impress from visiting.
Hey Kai, now you have a reason to get a maid again.

>Whom dwell in the vanity is special in that his character is generated with a drug dependence of 1000, and his drug dependence will never go below 1.
Nice.

>> No.17839913

>>17839763
For melee blunt is my favorite. Mostly because ranged weapons in my hand count as blunt. Thrown misc. items are my favorite ranged weapon. With hyper dash I can displace enemies to get my shit back.

Usually I choose a more sensible option like unarmed and special actions to hit ranged enemies with unarmed attacks.

>> No.17839981
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>>17839763
Grenade, because I like explosions.

Grenade again, because now i can wield Grenades in my hands and cause even more explosions up close & personal by knocking them upside the head with it. Dual Wield, of course.

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>>17808881
Updated pastebins.

>> No.17839990

>>17839913
if i throw a normal melee weapon is it affected by both melee skill and throwing or only throwing?

>>17839981
>Dual Wield, of course.
don't forget swarm

>> No.17840575

>>17839981
question, if i dub into necromancy, could i get myself an army of hard gay zombies?

>> No.17840900

>>17839763
Two Hand, with a living sickle that I converted from a chainsickle.
Distant Attack. I keep the Lucky Dagger in the ranged slot for its enchantments.

>> No.17840913

>>17840575
You can use the Necro Force power "Undead Bomb" to have an army of zombies that run up to enemies and explode. Can't make them go "FOOOOOO!", though.

>> No.17841304

do effects like 'proximity assist' stack with stuff like 'additional melee attacks?

>> No.17841327

>>17841304
As far as I'm aware, they're completely separate systems that don't interfere with each other.

>> No.17841630

>>17839763
armor piercing rounds on the genocide gun for bosses and awakened nefia
goofing off while my valkyrie wife and defender kill everything at other times

>> No.17841850
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>I need to ask a specialist to tell me the status of my wife

>> No.17841880

>>17841850
ntr

>> No.17842063
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Scary.

>> No.17842072

>>17839046
I hate those fucking terrorists. And your reward for holding candy for the entire month? A pumpkin for a one-time buff. Gee, thanks guys.

>> No.17842203

>>17842072
Oh poor anon. Having to hold an easy to get item for an entire month which they can throw out easily afterwards or just eat.

>> No.17842223

>>17842203
It's just dumb that you HAVE to get candy, or else some little shits either ruin your karma or blow up your house. Halloween should be a bonus, not putting your goddamn house on ransom.

And don't you dare say that I should follow in Kai's footsteps and sack my maid. I ain't getting rid of my meido. She did nothing wrong.

>> No.17842257

>>17842223
Except for doing a piss poor job in screening the people that you meet on arriving home. If she was any good she'd send the unsavory people away and stop naming your home homo shack.

>> No.17842272

>>17841850
Get insight lenses ya nerd.

>> No.17842281

>>17842223
Had no idea of the candy thing until now so I just took the karma hit. Karma loss seemed pretty easy to clear doing a couple of quests. Now that I know I can just bake an api nut to give to the kids it seems pretty easy to do for that nice 2000 turn buff item.

>> No.17842400

>>17837718
So you've upgraded to 1.73. Before I upgrade myself did they fix the waifu sleep sharing? Anything else I should be aware of before I upgrade concerning end game?

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>>17837961
Should be the death messages reported in the log. The entry for active death messages are usually the messages that show up in your log when your character kills something. They're the most used. The passive death messages for me usually show up when things die that are on the map but my character is not present to see. Such as when a non pet NPC kills a monster elsewhere on the map that I'm not at or when I use meteor and it kills something that exists on the map but my character doesn't see.

>>17842400
It's fixed. Sleep sharing should work if you take the initiative and use squeeze or allow them to take the initiative assuming they have a sleep sheep in their inventory. They seem to also have fixed the customized g option for sleep sharing. In the past it sometimes wouldn't use the option you put in the talk file.

If you're upgrading from 1.72 then nothing of note really changed with end game. The major things added in 1.73 imo is making tobacco related items functional and the addition of Ehekatl's painting, Itzpalt's stone bust, and Yacatect's kitty bank.

I haven't experimented with any of the tobacco related items myself. From what I hear though they made the stuff addictive and you get penalties if you don't feed your addiction. The addiction and penalty is really bad so you're kinda forced to have a constant stream of tobacco coming in from perhaps farms. Seriously this might be an underhanded tactic of Kumiromi to get more converts. What a devious plan. Getting the mass addicted and having to go through him to get seeds and stamina regeneration to keep up with tobacco farms.

Ehekatl's painting makes me smile. Useful for those who keep a maid around. Itzpalt's stone bust seems to be a good light source for the house. Yacatect's kitty bank is good for holding a ton of gold.

>> No.17842750

>>17842679
too bad sleep sharing still counts as sleeping on the ground and prevents stat potential gain

>> No.17842868

>>17842679
Does Itzpalt's statue actually do anything? The change logs don't mention anything.

>> No.17842890

Is it worth playing Elona with a controller?

>> No.17842949

How do I get rid of addiction I promise dad I'll never smoke again

>> No.17842956
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17842956

A friend of mine trying out Elona+ for the first time makes his character, and the moment he gets done with character creation and starts the game he crashes and gets this error. Any way to fix this? He installed Custom too as well, and it seems he installed it correctly.

>> No.17843016

>>17842868
Doesn't show up under stuff I can use. Aside from being a light source I'm guessing it's just house decoration and might help raise house rank if for some reason one hasn't gotten to rank 1 yet. Considering I've been hearing that at least some of these Manytia items can be wished for, it makes me wonder if these items can be inherited. Some of these items would make a gene character's life a bit easier.

>>17842956
What you should do is try to isolate the problem. First do a regular install of Elona+ and don't add any mods to it. If that works then proceed to install Custom. If that works then install your mods one at a time until you get an error which at that point you found what the offender is and can work from there.

>> No.17843036

>>17843016
>What you should do is try to isolate the problem. First do a regular install of Elona+ and don't add any mods to it. If that works then proceed to install Custom. If that works then install your mods one at a time until you get an error which at that point you found what the offender is and can work from there.
Thanks, it seems he can run it just fine in Elona Plus but not with Custom.

>> No.17843065

>>17843036
If using Custom try to match the first three numbers with the version of Elona+. For instance, Elona+ 1.73 should work with Elona Custom 1.73.1. Link for Custom here:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

It also says in that thread

>If you are using WINDOWS 8/8.1/10, please try setting the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7 before reporting errors. Also make sure the 2 scene .hsp files are in the same folder as the .exe

So if that applies to your friend then they might want to change the compatibility.

>> No.17843483

>>17842257
>mfw mine was deprived sex fort until I accidentally changed it

>> No.17843494

>>17843483
Depraved*

>> No.17843786

Can the underground rooms in towns like Vernis just be used as storage rooms?

>> No.17843791

>>17843786
I'm fairly sure they can. As long as the area doesn't reset, it will keep your stuff.

>> No.17843800

>>17843786
I've been using the putit/slime room as a storage unit since I started the game and I'm in lost irva now.

>> No.17843907

>>17843800
Buy a storage house already you freeloading nigger.

>> No.17843923

>>17843907
go away, he pays his taxes.

>> No.17844367

>>17842890
>giving up on most of the key shortcuts
why?

>> No.17845062

>corpse of grand leech 100.0s
is there a limit to favor from a single offering?

>> No.17845286

do all crossbows have the same range modifier? i mean, different kinds like repeating bow and balista.

>> No.17845327

>the candy skull bow 1d24+11 15 transforms into the briliant skull bow 1d29+10 -40
>the brilliant skull bow 1d29+10 -40 transforms into the everlasting skull bow 1d41+22 -54
>-54
i want my bow to hit stuff
i really want my bow to hit stuff

-54?????????????

>> No.17845336

>>17845062
Yes. Corpses of >=10s give the 50 favor, which is maximal value for this offering type.

>> No.17845595
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What's the best way to raise a living weapon?

>> No.17845636
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Absolute fucking retard reporting in.

It's my first time using custom AI and I'm trying to get this silver eye witch to use shadowstep, I've looked at the custom AI guides I can find but I can't seem to get it to do anything no matter what I set the conditions to.

>> No.17845688

>>17845595
>not using material kits/ material change scrolls
>not using craft repair
the best way to raie a living weapon is to give it to a pet. try a pet that is associated with the weapon- its obvious you dont give a melee to ranged pet, but try to avoid giving a bow to gun user or a claymore to a dualwielder.

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>> No.17846736

>>17845636
shadowstep has a minimum range (of 4?) and you don't have any instructions for what your pet should do to move if it can't shadowstep.

Right now it seems all it does is diss enemies while standing in place, and only shadowstepping/attacking if they move in range to her

>> No.17846879

>>17842890
Should be possible if you REALLY want it.

>> No.17847336

You can make so much money from crafting holy shit, I'm having to move city to city just to sell it.

>> No.17847350

>>17847336
I paid off the maid mansion quickly by wood crafting but it's annoying to keep searching for the wood pieces.

>> No.17847420

>>17847336
Speaking of crafting, I thought we were able to craft light sabers but I can't find which item it is to craft them anymore. Am I going crazy?

>> No.17847425

>>17847350
I haven't been out look for stuff just collecting it as I go but I'm around level 20 now and just got the crafting skills so there's quite a bit saved up.
Still thought I'm getting 15k for a sculpture with decent negotiation, most places can't even buy it.

>> No.17847618

>>17847420
crafting has been overhauled. if you really want a lightsaber you need to
1. get a longsword. any would do, but katana are prefred.
2. get a sharp materium. you can get one from carpentry.
3. get an EV item. yup.
4. use pot of fusion sharp equip update on the sword. t goes as follows: longsword->claymore->katana->lightsaber, so with a katana you only need to expend one EV item.

>> No.17847663

>>17847618
Interesting. Thanks for that anon

>> No.17847935

My level 5 gunner drunk a potion of concentration and is now doing three times more damage for 100 turns. What was Ano thinking?

>> No.17847982

>>17847935
screenshot?

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>>17847982

>> No.17848002

>>17847996
i mean in your status screen

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>>17848002

>> No.17848017

>>17848007
well thats interesting. you got 100 points in per due to concentration. maybe the potion was blessed?
do you have any equipment that raise alchemy? what version are you using?
and finally, which mode are you playing?

>> No.17848023

>>17848017
The potions and spells do the same thing regardless of levels, also playing on abnormal

>> No.17848034

>7 living weapons
>4 of them are bows

>> No.17848167

>>17847935
Yeah buffs do that. Then the enemy learns it can buff itself with rampage and cast hexes that fucks me over.

>> No.17848195

>>17848167
do you have aproof that your buff give you +100 raw in stats?

>> No.17848381

I wish somebody would do a combined release of E+, Elona custom, music pack and graphics mod.

It's totally PITA having to hunt down and install all these every release. I've gotten to the point where I just stick with default everything because I can't be bothered.

>> No.17848397

>>17848381
just exctract to anew folder and move the extra files (music graphic saves) into it. make sure to watch char sprites just in case new ones arrived.

>> No.17848407

>>17848397
not so easy since I have to

1. hunt down latest versions of everything
2. install each
3. if there are new things that are not in the old graphics/music, merge the differences manually

Can't somebody else do it for me? It is surely an act that increases karma and occasionally trigger wishes.

>> No.17848452

>>17848407
1.latest version of e+ and costum are not hard to find
2. unzipping was never a problem
3. thats the only real effort involved. but even that, all you need to do to marge is copy paste in your prefered image editor and there are like, 2 files to change? come on.

i used my first wish on a 7leaguh boots, my 2nd on sex change (already had several happy beds) and my third on livestock feed. i don't do wishes.

>> No.17848763

I am a humble putitoro merchant, only 5k a piece get your putitoro now.

>> No.17848971

>>17845595
Pure magic damage, unless you're willing to inflict Element Scar and Wet on enemies, then pure lightning damage. Give it 9 levels (L1 -> L10) and then stop so it doesn't start sucking your blood.

>>17845636
See if this works:
>Target Status != Dim: Insult
>Target Distance < 6: Shadow Step
>Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
>Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)

>> No.17848975

>>17848971
Actually, wait; better idea:
>Target Status != Dim: Insult
>Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
>Target Distance < 6: Shadow Step
>Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)

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Stupid question, but what am I supposed to do with the points that I get from leveling up? Improve a potential on a skill I want and dump it in there or hold onto them?

>> No.17849075

>>17849051
you can as you just said, use them as substitute to actual training. you can use thhem either on those skills that are hard to train (like early performance) or as emergency raise on skills you need right here and now (like lock picking)

>> No.17849508

>>17845636
>current progress: 0%
That's your problem, she hasn't learned to use shadow step yet. If you want to train her quickly go to an easy dungeon alone with your pet and keep waiting with S while she tries to use the move. Eventually she'll successfully execute it with more and more frequency until she learns it completely.

>> No.17849515

>>17841850
>I need a doctor to diagnose my wife
Why can't she tell me directly?

>> No.17849693

>>17849515
>I need a doctor to diagnose myself
why isn't there a 'c' button for rl??

>> No.17849975

In a future update I would love it if a traveling feat was introduced for shop pets with high experience. It's a hassle to travel all the way back to North Tyris when I want put items in my shop and everything sells out so quickly before I even have a chance to get more.

>> No.17850027

>>17849975
It could work like Call Familiar, except they just take items from you (up to their carrying capacity) and then warp back to the shop and put the items up for sale.

>> No.17850605

>>17848034
>been playing for ~120 hours
>never seen one living weapon
i mean, i'm pretty set on using my tonfas and my Yacatect coin for ranged, but still

>> No.17850881

>>17848381
>>17848407
Just how lazy can you be?

>> No.17851211

Are there any pets with special actions or traits that are worth getting? I've been training a prostitute to fight with, and it's nice when they get a fat amount of gold from sleeping with shopkeepers.

>> No.17851441

Is there and easy (or least hard) way to get rods of wishing?

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>> No.17851823

>>17850605
i know man. its the first time i had living weapons as well, its probably due to ehektel influance.
here is my advice:
1. high level black market sometime sell those. get blackmarket, and check every wweapon if its alive.
2. during a lucky day, return to larna and buy a map. bless the map and go dig up.

>> No.17851917

whats a good counter to breath damage other than raising own res and/or lowering enemy res?

>> No.17851933

>>17851917
Nothing, breath is pretty much akin to magic that you can't evade aside from Power Breath, which is physical. Blinding someone can discourage breath a little, but you need the resists.

>> No.17851936

>>17851917
punch them in the stomach with body blow enough times and they'll be too busy throwing up to breath deadly elements on you (or anything else really)

>> No.17851939

>>17851933
i see. well i guess the statue of itzpalt should suffice.
what about groundbreaks?

>> No.17851947

>>17851939
YYou mean when NPCs break walls? Out-speeding them, mostly.

>> No.17851964

>>17851947
>break walls
i wish. im talking about stuff like titans, archyeeks and ugh, buldozers.

>> No.17852173

where is this 'part-time' npc in the festival of juere? i just want the damn pillow for my house but he seems to have gone

>> No.17852194

>>17852173
so i found him hiding behind a tree. if i join the juere religion, do i lose all my progress and favor with yacatect? i kind of like being at her highest favor

>> No.17852227
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>>17852194
you do, and if you join back youll have to do everything from scratch. if you realy want a body pillow, just take a sleep sheep and use the workshop to make it into a body pillow.

>> No.17852231

>>17852227
is that a custom sprite for yours? that's pretty cool. yeah, i'll just make my own, yacatect has been with me for 49 levels, i can't just abandon a friend like that

>> No.17852237

>>17852231
its not mine, it someone else's..

>> No.17852240

>>17852237
i meant more it's not default ingame. is that miral and garok's workshop or irmas? the wiki doesn't say anything about converting

>> No.17852248

>>17852240
its not converting, its about using custom spriites for items

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>>17849515
>>17849693
>>17841850
>I need to ask a specialist to tell me the status of my wife

I saved this image for situations just like this.

>> No.17852617

>>17849515
>I need a barkeep to revive my wife
Why can't the dragonballs let me revive her directly?

>> No.17852771

>>17852617
The dragonballs are located in the resurrection book dropped by mummies, or in the resurrection spell obtained by scrolls of wonder/dream wizards.

Note that the book of resurrection is not a spellbook of resurrect, it works like a scroll; one-time use but always works.

>> No.17853849
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How do I get my pet to use her custom ai?

My pet isn't casting regeneration/insulting targets, she just walks up to them and hits them

>> No.17853924

>>17853849
did you check keep target in some of those commands? maybe the command tells her to cast rgn on her enemy, whic is why it is ignored.

>> No.17854130

I notice that as I get to level 30 my pets tend to die a lot and it's tempting to just go solo / get new pets. how do I make them keep up?

I'm using the starting little girl and golden knight.

>> No.17854163

>>17854130
Feed them properly, give them good equipment at +10 with a full complement of resists, give them all skills for stat gain, start accumulating AP in e.g. void to power them up at Leold, consider engineering higher level creatures on them for health, tag them to improve survivability, give them self healing or tag with a healing pet, give them first aid kits, get a defender on your team, identify what exactly gets through their defenses and find gear to plug that hole

>> No.17854343

>>17852248
According to the 1.72 changelog Jure's body pillow now gives a buff to sleeping (more good events, less bad), making it the best bed. They probably intend to add a merchandise item with bonuses for each of the gods. Similar to the statues, and jewels.

>> No.17854373

how am I supposed to play this game when 3 save files in a row I get to level 7, pet gets pregnant and theres no merchant selling poison by the time the alien bursts out and infects a town.

>> No.17854425

>>17854373
You can easily find poison bottles in the puppy cave. You shouldn't let your pet drink from wells if you can't deal with aliens yet. Also you could park the pet and get it back later, and go to a different town if one gets alien-infested. If you started over three times, that's a waste. Should have kept going.

>> No.17854639

>>17853849
Maybe try setting a distance limit for Insult? It shouldn't affect anything, but C-AI can be weird sometimes. I also avoid using <= and >=, which is probably pure superstition on my part.
>Self HP < 50%: Heal Critical
>Self Buff != Regeneration: Regeneration
>Target Distance < 6: And
>Target Status != Dim: Insult
>Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)
>Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
(I took the liberty of increasing the priority of Heal Critical. Figured keeping herself alive should come first.)
Also, note that you can use Numpad * to rearrange lines of code, so "reserve slots" like #3 in that screenshot aren't really necessary.

>> No.17854688

New >>17854683

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