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17782749 No.17782749 [Reply] [Original]

what is /jp/'s experience with rice cookers? I know you weebs have it. I was thinking of buying one but none are being sold locally so i'd have to import one. Are there rice cooker elitists or is it just any brand sells?

>> No.17782805

Any brand works. The exact mechanism is some sort of Japanese magic that modern science has yet to pin down. Whether your rice comes out tasty or not depends mainly on the type of rice you use and how much water you add.

>> No.17782816

http://japaneseruleof7.com/how-to-make-rice/

>> No.17782951

Zojinrushi is the elitist brand.

Our family has a large unit that is great for cooking many things beyond rice. Soups work very well in there. Oatmeal would work too.

>> No.17782956

i have a rice cooker from amazon. it's incredibly easy to use and i'm a lazy piece of shit so it works out great. i'm guessing nips just have a superiority complex about rice, or i'm not very picky so i enjoy it even if i do it "wrong." probably both.

there's nothing weeb about it unless you're just buying a rice cooker because muh japanese spirit.

>> No.17782995

I live in Japan and cook rice in a pot. Why do people need an appliance for something so simple?

>> No.17783025

>>17782995
It saves your time to do something else, like making the dishes.

>> No.17783083

>>17782995
I'm in a dormitory and don't have space to hold all my pots and pans. I've got only one pan tucked around here and I just cook meat with it. I can't have any primary dish alongside it. It's been bread and chicken for more than a week now. I really miss rice.

>> No.17783084

>>17783025
It takes me about 10-15 minutes with a pot, I don't have to plug it in, and it doesn't take up any extra space (except for on the stove I guess).. The 10-15m includes measuring and washing the rice

>> No.17783342

I use a 17 year old crap brand rice cooker that still cooks rice perfectly

Elitist brands can suck it.

>> No.17783541

>>17783084
I don't know how Japanese people cooks rice in the first place, but in my country cooking rice without a rice cooker is basically like this.
1. Wash the rice.
2. Put it in the pot with water and boil the water.
3. Stir the rice until it absorbs most of the water.
4. Steam the rice with steamer.
Rice is a staple food in my country and rice cooker really helps if you need to cook rice everyday. It easier and save your time, even kids can do it.

>> No.17783630

>>17783541
In America I don't think anyone washes rice, my process is
>boil water
>add rice and cover
>let the rice absorb the water while simmering
>uncover when water is gone
Done

>> No.17783844

>>17783630
That depends on what rice you get. If you get rice packaged for white people you don't wash it. If you get rice imported for asian people you wash it.

>> No.17783899

OMG WHO THE FUCK IS SO LAZY THAT THEY CAN'T COOK THEIR OWN RICE

RICE COOKERS DON'T SAVE YOU ANY TIME, FAG. YOU JUST WASTED YOUR GODDAMN MONEY. NOBODY SHOULD NEED A MACHINE TO DO SOMETHING SO EASY.

>> No.17783909

I have a smallish capacity zojirushi, three cup capacity, I think.

It's really nice to use, and allows me time to make the rest of the meal while it works. The little songs it plays when you start and when it's complete are super cute.

Assuming you follow the ratios and wash the rice well, it makes even subpar rice taste good. Was told as much by a Japanese exchange student at a dinner party I brought it to.

If you've got the budget for it, I would recommend. Amazon sells them.

>> No.17783925

>>17783899
yes they do retard. do you ever cook meals consisting of more than a single dish. holy fuck you are stupid. also they save space. have you ever been to japan you fuck

>> No.17783940

/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>> No.17783981

just look at amazon.jp's ranking for rice cookers.

>> No.17784059

>>17783925
you just fell for ye olde /ck/ rice cooker meme

>> No.17784644

>>17783630
A lot of rice contains pesticides and arsenic on the surface.

>> No.17784706

>>17784644
If it is fortified then it went through a washing process, you can wash again but that removes the top coat. So basically if you want to wash, then don't buy fortified.

>> No.17785081

i just dump the rice in, dump the water in, press the cook button, and come back 20 minutes later. all this talk of washing and stirring is making me exhausted.

>> No.17785295

>>17783925
Not him but again I live in Japan and cook rice with almost every meal. I also cook vegetables and meat and prepare seasonings or sauces. According to a quick search a rice cooker would save me no time doing this and would waste money and space. A cheap cooker seems to cost 2000 yen, my pot cost me 700. Actually I have two so 1400.

>> No.17785302

>>17785295
Also I COULD'VE gotten cheap pots at Seria or Daiso for 100 yen each, but I decided not to

>> No.17785324

>>17783899
I KNOW RIGHT, CAN YOU BELIEVE ALL THESE FAGGOTS WHO RIDE A CAR TO WORK? LOL JUST WALK NIGGA, WTF IT'S SO SIMPLE!

>> No.17785850

>>17785324
You're comparing a difference of 20 minutes and an hour thirty to the difference between 10 minutes and 10 minutes

>> No.17786486

>>17783899
>>17784059
>>17785295
did no one fucking see >>17783083 ? Who the fuck said anything about saving time. I don't have space to fucking hold all my kitchen utility. And a fucking pot that cooks rice sounds fucking good to me.
>>17783925
stop hijacking threads you nigger

>> No.17786547

why don't asians use salt in their rice... it's like munching on gooey tasteless starch if you don't add flavoring to rice, the most important of which is salt

>> No.17786550

>>17785850
you've never made rice or walked anywhere

>> No.17786551

>>17786547
They probably have a baby tongue since they can't stand anything remotely strong.

>> No.17786559

I have a cheap ricecooker and the rice comes out tastier than I can make with a pot. Also way easier, no need to adjust heat or worry it might boil over. Also leaves me more room on the stove and it can make frozen veggies at the same time. No idea why some people here have an autistic freakout over this. It's not different from a toaster, I could make toast with a fork holding them over the hot stove but I don't care that much about saving a tiny amount of money if it saves me some hassle. People on this board already buy lots of expensive junk, if a 2000 yen cooker causes rage maybe the issue is that anon is really fucking poor.

>> No.17786613
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17786613

The fuck? I'm American-born Chinese and don't see how there's any need to fucking import one. You can just go on fucking Amazon, the supermarket, or an appliance store if you want one. There's absolutely no otaku significance in having one and not much point in getting a Japanese brand over a chink other than weeaboo. Rice is fucking common and everywhere. And wash your fucking rice, it takes 1 (one) minute and so much shit comes out I guarantee you'll never not wash your rice again. But yes, it is budget import rice, Jasmine I believe. You're a dumbass if you buy white people rice in little boxes and the long-grain/mixed rice in it definitely isn't authentico gookido.

If you want a comfy more-weeaboo-than-otaku meal pot cook the rice yourself for maximum satisfaction. Rice cookers to gooks are what toasters are to white people. I use my shit everyday and to this day I still dont understand how gwei loh eat without rice. Is it literally all straight meat and veggies if there isn't pasta or bread? This is why the vietcong were able to win by giving farmers literally only an AK47 and a bag of rice.

>> No.17786620

>>17786559
They don't even see the irony of calling a rice cooker a waste of space and money while they're making rice on their fucking STOVE.

>> No.17786689

My experience is that it does not keep demon kings in

>> No.17786692

>>17786559
>>17786620
Who the fuck makes rice on a pot, fucking English speakers and your gross eating habits. No shit Japanese food looks like the Holy Grail to you guys.

>> No.17786697

how can people that post here not know how to cook rice or what a rice cooker is.

Oh wait, cooking takes effort. Of course you're all clueless. Back to your cup ramen everybody.

>> No.17786721

>>17786613
>asians will never feel the pleasure of white rice with butter and sugar inside

>> No.17786749

>>17782749
a friend of mine got one and he says it is the best,if you eat rice frecuently i suggest you to get one,it is strage that you can`t find one locally,they are pretty common nowadays,keep looking,there have to be someplace that sells them,and if everything else fails try the internet

>> No.17786774

>>17783084
I just always have rice cooking in my cooker and I can do other stuff while it's going, I cook rice pretty much every day

>> No.17786821
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17786821

I've been using the "vanilla" Zojirushi (pic related) for a pretty long time now. It was pretty expensive, especially since I had to import it from the US (as far as I know Zojirushi doesn't sell anything in the EU). I don't regret buying it at all though, as it is extremely convenient. The main functionnalities are delayed cooking and keeping rice warm for hours (12+). That being said, it can only cook rice sticky. If you don't like japanese-style (among others) steamed rice then don't bother

>> No.17786842

>>17786486
>Who the fuck said anything about saving time
People who are not you

>> No.17786847

>>17786547
Most Japanese meals have soy sauce,, which is salty. The rice is supposed to not have much taste

>> No.17786848

>>17786559
I think Asian rice must be different. Back in America I frequently had to worry about my pot boiling over when cooking rice and DID want a rice cooker. Now in Japan, that simply never happens

>> No.17786853

>>17786620
Stoves have space. Mine has 4 burners.

>>17786692
What do you think people in Japan cooked their rice with before inventing the rice cooker

>> No.17787202

>>17786721
kill me

>> No.17787218

>>17786847
soy sauce on rice? whats wrong with you

>> No.17787236

Kuso tnread.

>> No.17787240

>>17787218
Do you have any reading comprehension at all? He never said on the rice, just that the dishes used it and the rice balanced out the overall flavor of the meal.

>> No.17787247

>>17787240
i know but i want to take anons post wrong on purpose to insult him

>> No.17787266

You should try adding salt, onion and garlic to your rice. Trust me, it makes it taste much better.

>> No.17787311

>>17787266
>you should try adding these three things you're supposed to add to 99% of all cooked meals ever

>> No.17787480

>>17787266
I don't add anything to my rice because it doesn't matter what it tastes like. It could taste like literally nothing for all I care. Its only purpose is to serve as a base for other tastier foods.

>> No.17787481

>>17786613
Please do not curse on this board, thank you!!!

>> No.17787509

One of you weebs explain to me how a rice cooker actually saves any time. Both go almost exactly the same:
1. Measure rice
2. Wash rice
3. Measure water
4. Start cooking
5. If pot, turn heat down when simmer is reached
6. Cooked rice

Where the fuck does a rice cooker save any time in this? You'll be in the kitchen regardless unless you eat only rice for your meals, and all you have to do is turn it down once and turn it off when ready, about 5 seconds.

>> No.17787513 [DELETED] 

>>17787481
nigger

>> No.17787557

>>17787247
that's not how it works, it just makes you sound stupid

>> No.17787562

>>17787509
yeah I don't know

when I got here, my coworkers were like "get a rice cooker" and the only reason was "it's easier". I guess maybe it is, very slightly. It seems like a meme or something. Every single function of it can be accomplished by something. Rice cooking, reheating, omelettes (of course, and you can make a better one in a pan)

madness, I think it's a legitimate meme; a pervasive idea

>> No.17787572

>>17787509
>>17787562
I went on a trip to Japan with some American Asians and all insisted we actually buy a rice cooker, despite having perfectly good pots where we stayed. When they attempted to use a pot themselves, they first undercooked it, and finally overcooked it, on top of taking much longer than it should to cook it. I think maybe Asians just can't cook? Maybe the rice cooker companies managed to make it seem like such a necessary item that they forgot how to cook rice since.

>> No.17787575

I can't live without my rice cooker. One of my most essential kitchen tools. Though the one I've had for years now is starting to lose it's non-stick coating which is kinda annoying but it's no hassle.

>> No.17787823

>>17787509
you forgot several very important steps to manually cooking rice with a pot

5 if pot, wait for rice to boil
6 keep waiting
7 keep waiting
8 watch carefully because if you don't, you will undercook or overcook the rice and waste your time completely
9 not yet
10 okay now turn down heat
11 wait again till you can fully turn off heat
12 not yet
13 okay now turn off heat
14 cooked rice

>> No.17787834

>>17787509
>You'll be in the kitchen regardless
No, you won't, retard. Unless you don't own a fridge and a microwave and have no idea how to cook larger portions so you don't have to cook every meal EVERY SINGLE TIME you want to eat.

>> No.17787989

I eat rice daily and used to cook it in a pot for years until I finally got a rice cooker. Now I can't go back to cooking in a pot anymore; rice cookers are far more convenient.

>>17787509
>Where the fuck does a rice cooker save any time in this?
at
>5. If pot, turn heat down when simmer is reached
you don't have to be anywhere near the rice after you've turned on the rice cooker. As I don't wash my rice, it's just a matter of putting in rice, putting in water, and turning on the rice cooker. I then walk away to do other stuff, and by the time I decide to have dinner (it stops cooking when done and keeps it warm for hours) it's ready.

>You'll be in the kitchen regardless
That's where you're wrong. The big convenience of rice cookers is that you don't have to be in the kitchen for it to work; you turn it on and walk away. The time it takes to cook can be spent on other things.

>unless you eat only rice for your meals
Or unless rice is the part of your meal that takes the longest to prepare. You'll only be actively spending time on the other stuff if you use a rice cooker. In my case it's even better, as I've optimized my dinner preparation workflow to use only passive cooking for all parts of my meal (rice cooker, air fryer, microwave), so I can spend almost all of the time doing other stuff. I just put the food in, turn on the devices and walk away. A couple minutes later, dinner is ready.

>>17786721
>white rice with butter and sugar inside
What the hell? Is that an American thing?

>> No.17788029

>>17787218
You're not supposed to put soy sauce on rice? Fuck, really?

>> No.17788055

>>17787480
What's the point of eating the rice then? Just eat the other foods.

>> No.17788057

>>17787509
The entire point is so that I dont have to keep up with it

>> No.17788102

>>17787989
>Is that an American thing?
As American as marshmallow treat
>Japs think their shitty mochi compares.

>> No.17788143

>>17784644
pesticide good

>> No.17789294

>>17787989
>you turn it on and walk away
like with a pot

>> No.17789339
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17789339

I would never use a rice cooker. I live on my sailboat and my galley is extremely small. I really have zero places to fit a giant rice cooker unless I want to stow the thing in the cargo hold. Meanwhile my pot is very small and I just keep it on the stove when not in use. I also have never felt that cooking rice in a pot was difficult? Even if the rice cooker makes it a touch easier, it just makes a 2/10 difficulty dish become 1/10. Can't imagine cooking RICE being any easier than it already is.

>> No.17789347

>>17789339

try not being homeless

>> No.17789710

You can use a rice cooker for more than rice, if I had to pick between buying a rice cooker and a microwave I would pick the rice cooker any time.

>> No.17789997

>>17782749

Buy any brand. some of the cheaper brands are just bare minimum. My rice cooker was about 40 bucks and I've never had an issue with it.

Make sure you always wash your rice before cooking it, or it'll come out too starch-y

>> No.17790542

>>17782749
I am a flipander so a rice cooker is pretty much necessary

>>17782995
It burns really quikly

>> No.17790968

>>17782749
>I was thinking of buying one but none are being sold locally so i'd have to import one
Come on, some of the online electronics stores in your country gotta have them

>> No.17791108

>>17788029
As in pouring soy sauce onto steamed rice? Fuck no, don't do that

>> No.17791115

>>17782816
That's the exact rice cooker I have!
Highly recommend.
Porridge setting is awesome for steel-cut oats.

>> No.17791492

>>17791108
It's tasty though

>> No.17791533

>>17791492

for: it's tasty
against: some sperg on 4chan

choose wisely.

>> No.17791585

So I have one of those cheap ass rice cookers, every time I cook rice a bunch of weird white liquid bubbles up out of it. Its not a big deal just kinda disgusting and weird. Never have that issue with bigger rice cookers.

I was the rice too.

>> No.17791713

>>17791585
>I was the rice
You're not supposed to go in the rice cooker yourself, and even if you did that would not turn you into rice.

>> No.17791720
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>>17791713
I-i meant I wash the rice

>> No.17791864

>>17791585
It's likely a combination of rice starch and a lossy cooking method.

Is it a cheap American style cooker, or cheap Japanese style?

Never go full rice, anon.

>> No.17792202

>>17791492
???
most of the sauce gets absorded by a minority of the rice, it tastes absolutely awful. There's a reason why the nips never put soy sauce on white rice.
That's why tamago kake gohan exists. The egg makes it so the soy sauce is evenly distributed.

>> No.17794428

>>17787509
>start it whenever you want
>it's done whenever
This is the most important part, you can start it like an hour before you plan on eating, and the rice is going to be perfect whenever you need it. It's one less thing you need to worry about timing, and more importantly, one less thing on the stove.

>> No.17794501

They're way better than making rice the ghetto way; boiling it in a pot. I'd say it's a pretty worthwhile investment

>> No.17795010

>>17792202
???
put it on incrementally or spread out the rice before putting it on

>> No.17795246

>>17795010
there's no arguing it, there's no point to pouring soy sauce on rice

if you really want soy sauce on rice like the tasteless fuck you are, you can just put it in a side dipping dish

>> No.17795377
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17795377

Forget the rice.

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>> No.17796194

Those pancakes look gross

>> No.17796754
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17796754

I bought a Zojirushi using shopping service (buyee/tenso) on Yahoo JP auctions for only 2000 yen / 20 bucks USD and it was only a year old and functions perfectly. I was able to make banana bread as well as delicious chirashi zushi easily. I highly recommend buying a used model as it will save you thousands of yen and will be just as good quality.

>> No.17796874

Official /ck/ approved rice cooking method:
1. Wash the rice
2. Add 1 cup of water per 1 cup of rice
3. Put heat on high and bring the water to a boil
4. Put heat on low and wait 10-15 min

>> No.17796926

>>17783541
Rice is a staple in my Latin American shithole and it goes like this:
1. Put rice, water and salt in pot
2. Boil
3. Eat
What the fug you guys

>> No.17796932

>>17783925
>>17785324
>>17786486
you dumb fucks
http://tanasinn.info/wiki/Kopipe:One_Liners

>> No.17797033

>>17786613
>I use my shit everyday and to this day I still dont understand how gwei loh eat without rice. Is it literally all straight meat and veggies if there isn't pasta or bread?
Where do white people get their calories from anyways? Is it all just from the butter and syrup they pour over their raw unseasoned meat and vegetables?

>> No.17797063

>>17796874
>Add 1 cup of water per 1 cup of rice
This works for japonica rice (which is of course the most /jp/-relevant rice), but I find that for the brown long grain rice I typically use for everything except curry rice you need about twice that.
Speaking of japonica, I actually had trouble getting it to cook right in a pot, but ever since I discovered you can cook rice in a skillet (with a lid), it's been coming out perfect.

>> No.17797119

>>17797063
The rice to water ratio is always 1:1 then you add water depending on evaporation. You're right that brown rice needs more water, but it doesn't need a different ratio.

Enlightening video on the subject:
https://youtu.be/DJFU7ezipbg

>> No.17797347

It seems a lot people here have a misconception about the purpose of rice cookers. That or they haven't owned a good one.

I have owned several, from no-name supermarket-branded ones, to the likes of Tiger or that Elephant brand, and I'll tell you that the convenience of a good rice cooker is irreplaceable:

-consistency: whether it's long grain, short grain, brown rice, cheap rice from SEA, high quality Japanese rice, you don't need to experience to find the correct ratio of water, just err around the guideline marks.

-versatility: there are programs for pancakes, congee, eggs.

-cleaning: the good ones' nonstickiness is incredible, I never spend more than 10s for cleaning up, even if I purposefully make burnt rice (a very good snack) or watery sticky rice.

-storage: I can keep my cooked rice for 48 hours and it is still fresh as if it was only 10 mins old. Thanks to rice cookers back in uni days I only needed to spend 30s to prepare the carb portions for every 2 days, or 6 meals.

>> No.17797362

>>17797347
So there you go.
Practically every household in Japan, or 1 every 3 in China (they have lots of poor rural areas), own a rice cooker.

If you think you're wiser than these hundreds of millions of people, well maybe you need to again take a look at your argument.

>> No.17797606

>>17797033
>Where do white people get their calories from anyways?
Where I live (Netherlands), we eat potatoes for dinner, which has almost the exact same nutritional value as rice. When I started cooking for myself I quickly found that I could just completely replace potatoes with rice (which is a lot easier to prepare) and I've barely eaten any potatoes since. As for other people around the world, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staple_food lists nutritionally similar foods.

>> No.17797677

>>17795010

soy sauce on rice is a white person thing.

>> No.17797788

>>17797033
there's not really that many major staple foods that don't involve pasta or bread here, most fast food is either subs, burgers, or pizza when you think about it, and on the rare occasion you don't, it probably has potato in it anyway

>> No.17797803

>>17782995
Same reason microwaves exist

>> No.17797911

>>17797803
Because people are too lazy to heat food via polar molecule rotation in other ways?

>> No.17797937

>>17786821
>as far as I know Zojirushi doesn't sell anything in the EU).
https://www.yumasia.co.uk sells zojirushi cookers that work with european voltages, and they ship from the UK, so no hassles with customs.

>> No.17797955

>>17797788
>>17797606
Weird. When I was a kid and I ate too much potato my dad would always tell me potatoes are not food and make me eat more rice.

>> No.17802018

>>17783630
>In America I don't think anyone washes rice
I'm American and basically you're fucking gross. Don't even talk about cooking ever again, you unpatriotic slime. You're not worth a single sesame on my burger bun.

>> No.17803157

whats the point of washing rice if it gets cooked in water anyways?

>> No.17803190

>>17803157
you just answered your own question

>> No.17803544

>>17803157
You wash off the stuff coating the grains. Wash your rice next time and you'll see the water turn milky white as you wash the grains. You pour that stuff out.

>> No.17803570

I cook it in the microwave. It tastes fine

>> No.17803578

Don't you just hate when someone really sucks at cooking food and they say, "tastes fine bro"

>> No.17803811

Rice cooker saves your time and it will prevent the rice from burning because it has timer

>> No.17803865

If the slightly crispy part of the rice at the bottom has a weird nutty smell, does it mean I didn't wash it enough? Is that smell normal? If I washed it plenty and it still smelled weird, do I need to buy new rice?

>> No.17804017

>>17782749
I have a cheap $20 one I bought somewhere. It cooks about 3 cups of rice in about 30 minutes with 3.5 cups of water.

I love it. I plan on probably buying a new one with better functionality later on in the coming year.

>> No.17804051

Nothing more sickening that a rice cooker otakus.

>> No.17806221

>>17795377
If you teach me how to cook that I'll forget about the rice

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