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>> No.17694017
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I fucking suck at using this shot type. All I have left to do this with is the Spooky Ghost Squad. I hope it goes well.

>> No.17694080

What was the first shot type you ever played, /jp/?

>> No.17694135
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I'm going to focus on Hard and Extras now.


>> No.17694157

Ghost Squad is great anon, I don't think you will have trouble with getting a 1cc with them.

>> No.17694172
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You have something against DDC?

>> No.17694185
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When is GFW anon?

>> No.17694203

Every chart I've seen with even one box ticked for GFW also had at least one Lunatic clear, so it's probably a little early for him.
Then again, he must be the guy from last thread who said that LoLK was easy-peasy and he did it in two tries, so maybe not.

>> No.17694208

Not gonna lie, it is the game I like the least, but wouldn't go as far as calling it bad, I just can't enjoy it like the others. I do want to clear DDC Normal but right now I feel like practicing and switching difficulties in the other games, so DDC 1cc might be in hold for some time.

Had some attempts in the past that went horrible, I'll try again in the future I promise!

>> No.17694269

scarlet team is the best shot my dude, it's the only shot i 1cc'd lunatic with

>> No.17694283

I wish you'd start these threads with a webm, these stills feel so lazy.
As well, it appears that you accidentally installed a botnet.

>> No.17694287

I got worried there for a bit that some serious anon didn't like my OP

>> No.17694369

Is the botnet thing legit or just a meme? I haven't heard a single person outside of these threads mention it, and I have to wonder how it started.

>> No.17694374

The program sends small packets of data to an unknown location, so maybe?

It probably isn't actually a botnet, but it is poorly made and tends to cause some issues in game, such as delay and slowdown.

>> No.17694377

It's just the one guy; he doesn't like that the creator is a furry or something, so he always throws an autistic fit over it.
You can go look at the source code and compile it yourself if you're worried.

>> No.17694381

>he doesn't like that the creator is a furry or something
While understandable, if that's all it's about, that's kind of funny.
>You can go look at the source code and compile it yourself if you're worried.
I wouldn't even know where to start, but I'm not really worried. Even if it was true, I don't think all my data being spied on relies on a translation patch for a niche japanese video game. If a translation patch is enough, then odds are I'm already fucked.

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This was really sloppy, but I managed somehow. Yuyuko's shot is crazy useful for stages.

>> No.17694400
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People dislike the guy for slightly more than that.

>> No.17694473

Yeah I'm the same guy, but I did not say the game is easy-peasy as I don't think I can get a legacy mode clear with any of the other characters yet. I played the game a lot in PD and practice prior to those attempts, so you kinda end up learning the routes. Do that and then try Reisen out, you will understand what I mean.

Congrats! Yuyu's spread is really big and it's great for stages, have you done Magic and Border team yet?

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I have. I think I'm gonna start practicing hard mode tomorrow. Probably just gonna do it with Border team because they feel the most natural to use.

>> No.17694494
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>Every chart I've seen with even one box ticked for GFW also had at least one Lunatic clear
I feel like my chart just gets ignored more often than not.

>> No.17694525

I didn't find Reisen's bomb particularly useful for Clownpiece, and she still shredded all of my resources even after otherwise-perfect runs. Most of her attacks are skill-based rather than knowledge-based, so either you can do them or you can't, and practicing won't help someone who can't.

You have two dozen Lunatic clears, what are you on about?

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hsifs ex1mnb was a double ko to the final.

>> No.17694646
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Do Reimu and Marisa have different hitbox sizes in EoSD?
Also I guess I'll post my chart, even though it's really shitty since I only got my first 1CC a few days ago (>>17674586)

>> No.17694666
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cause no release is for tools

>> No.17694702
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>Already an extra clear
Your chart could certainly look worse, it could be mine.

>> No.17694712

Hitboxes are the same size my mans

>> No.17694726

To be fair, it was a horrible run and I got really lucky... the one redeeming point is that I managed to capture Maze of Love, which was the spellcard that made me switch to Marisa.
Alright, thanks.

>> No.17694733

Still that's a pretty good sign. Which game are you going to go for next?

>> No.17694748

I'm thinking of doing them in order, so PCB. I've come pretty close a few times, but Youmu (or Prismriver nonspells if I'm using Sakuya) always drains too many of my resources and I end up losing to Yuyuko.

>> No.17694776

No Yuyuko 1ccs yet, anon?

>> No.17694790

I've been trying. She's been the most fun to fight so far, and I've loved every line of dialogue she has had in IN, so even though I haven't got any 'real' 1ccs (What with Aya in PoFV and HSiFS's everything being so easy) I find myself loving her. I've gotten fairly close though, getting to Kaguya's third nonspell, but I've had to rely on border team.

>> No.17694925

That's a little bit of a stretch anon, I cleared GFW Normal and Extra way before I started with Lunatic. As most people probably did.

>> No.17695018

No release, I assume?

>> No.17695052

Marisa B in EoSD.

>> No.17695739

You are just proving his point.
Then again, he is exaggerating and overestimating GFW's difficulty

>> No.17695771
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Can someone please post the latest version of 1cc chart? I'm this close in getting my first 1cc.

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>and practicing won't help someone who can't.
You are just making up excuses to keep sucking dude.
Having an extra clear after a few days of your first 1cc is pretty damn good dude, congrats.
I think this is it

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Thanks friend

>> No.17695971
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Reimu must be very good to be able to give me an ExNB mostly blind, now I can't even clear with Aya

>> No.17696123

with release cause its boring as fuck either way

>> No.17696322

An extra clear less than a couple of days after your 1st normal 1cc?


>> No.17696466
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Holy shit, I actually fucking did it. Eat a dick, Kaguya.

>> No.17696525

It's true though. Practicing can help you learn how to do something, but if the correct technique is beyond your skill level, then you can't just magically get better at it.
All of Clownpiece's spells took me dozens of attempts on every pointdevice run, even after learning how to do them and "capturing" them (mostly through sheer luck) on previous runs. Spending all that time in what basically amounts to spell practice didn't help me a single bit with her, because she requires speed and precision far beyond what I can consistently do. That's all there is to it.

>> No.17696545

nope, you just suck and don't wanna put in the effort to not suck, no mental gymnastics will change that, the only thing that can save you from sucking is practicing.

>> No.17696563

I don't think you understand, my whole point is that yes, I do suck. And I can practice and learn until the cows come home, but that won't save me from not being physically gifted.

>> No.17696602

>either you can do them or you can't, and practicing won't help someone who can't.
I'm sure this isn't what you mean, but you phrase it in a way that implies people who can do it never needed to practice it.

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I can't find my emulator for the PC-98 games, or any of the games except for HRtP. I think I might have forgot about them when I was salvaging files from my old laptop about a month ago, and I already wiped the dying hard drive.

>> No.17696622

You don't need that much skill in these games. If you are not able to do it after tons of practice, they you are either crippled or just don't practice enough, not this talent business.
Everyone that actually embraces the talent ideal is just a coward or a lazyass.

>> No.17696721

why am i still garbage after 1500 hours in one game

>> No.17696732

I can spend 1500 hours in shitty, inefficient, and unproductive practice and cry about the talent meme

>> No.17696746

How much practice do you think is necessary, then? How many hundreds of times does one have to fail at something while making no progress before it starts showing results? Is pointdevice mode "unproductive practice", and if so, what could be a more effective way to learn something than simply doing it repeatedly?

>> No.17696752

Yeah totally, next thing you're gonna tell me is my mentally actually matters when playing.

>> No.17696755

Even just being able to memorize the stage and the bosses patterns help out in the long run even if you were to just bomb all the hard parts.

>> No.17696757

what's the best team to use if i want to 1cc in finalb?

>> No.17696763

I just used Border Team, Yukari's shot really carries it.

>> No.17696767

when will this "talent is a meme" meme die
its mainly pushed by discord kids and normal mode players that dont know better

>> No.17696776

is there anything else to getting good other than just playing a lot?

>> No.17696777

I'd say so, I go from losing several lives in the first few stages when I'm feeling shitty to being able to 1cc without missing at times.

>> No.17696784

That's what I was saying though, practice is important and necessary for knowledge-based things, like routing or spells that have some technique that makes them easier. I just don't think practice can help you pull off feats of speed or precision that you can't naturally do.

>> No.17696792

be born talented or play one category a whole lot
take your pick

>> No.17696797

Up to lunatic you can either just be good or you can practice. For lunatic, you gotta do both desu.

>> No.17696801

Is using a vsync patch on the older games considered cheating?

>> No.17696823

the game doesn't consider vpatch cheating like it does with the viable hitbox patch. You should be good anon.

>> No.17696840

I think he was being sarcasstic there, anon

>> No.17696949

Back to your shitty irc to cry how untalented you are

>> No.17697003

haha nigger

>> No.17697070

I think there is only 1 type in th1

>> No.17697090

The same one you used in Final A, it doesn't really matter.

>> No.17697123
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How exactly does Philosopher's Stone work? Is it entirely RNG, or is there some kind of underlying pattern? I think if I can grasp that and Cranberry Trap, I might have a decent shot at Flan.

>> No.17697126

Patchy is fat LOL

>> No.17697267

Philosopher stone can be streamed pretty easy, best way is to play conservative and stay under patchy all the time, as for cranberry trap, some parts of it are aimed at you (I think all bullets except for those pink ones) best way is by starting at the middle of the screen and then stream to the bottom

>> No.17697313

Does the game change anything when you use the visible hitbox patch as in EoSD?

If so, what?

>> No.17697556

What's the recommended way to play the PC-98 games? Any specific emulators and settings?

>> No.17697617
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Neko Project, there was a guide on how to set it up properly. This is the config I use on Neko Project 2, (using the np2int exe, since there's a shit ton of different versions)

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Well, cleared PCB. Bombspammy run with a cheap character (SakuyaA), but a 1CC is a 1CC, right?
No idea about Philosopher's Stone, but for Cranberry Trap, I'm pretty sure the blue bullets are aimed at you and the pink ones are aimed at the center of the screen.

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>a 1CC is a 1CC, right?
That it is, good work. And PCB is nice because you can gradually step down the cheapness by moving to SakuyaB, then Reimu A then B, then Mari, and by the time you're done you'll be at least twice as good at the game.
Meanwhile, I bombed through Philosopher's Stone and messed up the route for Cranberry Trap, but reigned in the stupid mistakes and narrowly managed a clear anyway. Beating Flan was very satisfying despite its being an objectively terrible run.

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>using translation
>even so, not using the static patch
Step up your game, senpai.

>> No.17698376

i would say it's a meme but the people saying it probably take it seriously

nmlgc is a shit but he doesn't even manage the project anymore

>sends small packets of data to an unknown location
checking for updates on startup will always require this, and it's just to the patch host

>such as delay and slowdown
provide evidence

>> No.17698387

>I just don't think practice can help you pull off feats of speed or precision that you can't naturally do
>naturally do
Saying "naturally" is a terrible misnomer; that is begging the question. Of course with practice you improve your physical ability to maneuver, and as your ability to predict improves (even with something completely static) so will your movement, because they are linked.

>> No.17699372
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Congrats anon. Hope you didn't go too harsh on best girl.

>> No.17699534
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>> No.17699544
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No you're not.

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Damn it Anon! Why do you have to bring me down like that? This maybe be a dumb question, but how do I color the 1cc chart? With Microsoft paint?

>> No.17699664

No, you need special plugin for adobe photoshop compatible with the version of the chart you are using

>> No.17699682

Got it

>> No.17699797

>playing other difficulties after beating one

>> No.17699884

What do you mean? That you should not bother with different difficulties at all or that you should remain on the same difficulty or the same game longer?

>> No.17699914

Is it OK to shill your video if its the danmaku in the OP?


(yes the history is awful I recorded the first time I beat it, I literally somehow didnt see the pattern for 30 attempts and was just randomly flailing about)

>> No.17699967
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I very nearly had my no-miss on HSiFS, but then I died on the last boss's summer non-spell. I don't know how I managed that.
I'll make it next time.

>> No.17700082

Congrats anon, but you already were one of us
What would Yuyu think if she saw such rude manners?

>> No.17700477

Yeah, you only need photoshop if you want to fuck with backgrounds and shit.

>> No.17700631

Thanks friend.

Already done. Right now, I'm figuring which Kanako pic that I should decorate my 1cc chart with. Thanks anyway.

>> No.17700656

Which game was it, by the by?

>> No.17700712

>using the release in spell practice

>> No.17700722

TD. Now I think I should focus on 1cc'ing EoSD. It's the second easiest for me.

>> No.17700727

In LLS do the bosses not take damage during bombs? Playing ReimuA and the bombs take forever to end, and it seems like nothing happens during them.

>> No.17700932

Psost u're scors am i right fellatios

>> No.17700942


>> No.17701010
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Here you go. These are all mine. I go by many different names.

>> No.17701017

12 inches

>> No.17701022

bosses take damage during bombs but in LLS and maybe MS theres a bomb damage penalty or else you could literally melt things faster with MarisaA

>> No.17701024

Has no one beaten that HSiFS record yet? Wasn't it set like day one or something?

>> No.17701025

Congrats! don't listen to that asshole, now you should go for either PCB, IN or MoF, but seems you already got EoSD in mind.

>> No.17701128

Bet you were waiting for this moment so hard, even if the post was ironic from a mile away.

>> No.17701135
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Youmu is hard.

>> No.17701138

Youmu is very learnable, keep at it.

>> No.17701176
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She's even harder to use. She looks so cool, and has such a cool character concept, but I'm absolute trash with her shot types.

>> No.17701244

Nearly got a no bomb run on IN normal but fucking Apollo 13 fucked me up and made me lose 2 lives, ended up losing completely in the middle of the spell that came after.

>> No.17701287

Use the safespot please.
I still wonder why is it even possible

>> No.17701360
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Youmu makes me hard!

>> No.17701426

The game's completely built around the release mechanic, I guess he really wanted you to use it. What safespot, by the way?

>> No.17701450

I looked it up on youtube since i didn't know either and im also the guy who told the tale originally, and i guess you basically sit below eirin obviously without crashing into her and the initial bursting out of the bullets will not hit you, then after she moves away you have to go to the middle with much care about the precise position.

>> No.17701451

>What safespot, by the way?
He's talking about the one between Eirin's legs. That's not a joke, by the way.

>> No.17702026
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Is Youmu's sword in TD just for screen clearing during stages? It doesn't seem to vary all that much to the overall dps of her normal shot.

>> No.17702055

he has 7.1b since start of this month but lazy western wikifags didnt update
go check zh touhouwiki for updated records

>> No.17702376

>Replay: N/A
Where are the proofs?

>> No.17702438
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Any tips for hard mode in Imperishable Night? This shit's rough. Most I've been able to do is get to stage 6 with no lives remaining. Granted, this is only my 10th or so try, so maybe I'll just keep at it.

And for some reason I can't get past Mystia without bombing. Her arrows just juke the shit out of me every single time. Even Keine's stupid fucking lasers in her final spellcard trick me out. The only person who was mostly the same from Normal > Hard was Reisen, oddly enough.

>> No.17702539

Can't actually find megapulse's 125.5 but apparently he beat it so.

>> No.17702819

Satori's little smirk stirs my loins.
SA is absolutely gorgeous in general.

>> No.17703459
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>283 shots taken before finally clearing a stage
Can anyone beat my highscore?

>> No.17703496

I got around 500 on DS Stage 9-1. It was a pain to figure out how to beat that stage.

>> No.17703510

Wew, I'm glad I'm not the only piece of shit who're bad at this. Thanks Anon.

>> No.17703550

I just spent over 10 runs trying to figure out Ran's first spell card... God, I feel dumb.

>> No.17703756

According to ZUN she's even hard to write for.

It's good for burst damage when you need to do some angled dodging and can't line up her shots since you can just spam it like crazy.

For pure DPS her basic shot is indeed superior.

>> No.17703773

>According to ZUN she's even hard to write for.
Must be why I hate her so much. She has nothing except "YUYUKO-SAMA" on the fucking brain at all times.

Sakuya will mention her mistress a couple times when she goes out to solve an incident, but she's never that annoying with it.

>> No.17704126

To be fair anon, that scene is made to make you waste shots, like StB EX-7

>> No.17704138

To be fair, I also only think about Yuyuko.

>> No.17704149
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I've finally beat kanako.

>> No.17704229

>that scene is made to make you waste shots
I realize how you're supposed to do it now but for some reason I could not find the time to recharge or the ability to take a shot of her from afar after I took a shot of her on the first volley during her second phase. Probably because I took it too early or something along those lines. So then I had to find another way which was hard to find in all the chaos, but not that difficult to execute when I eventually found it.

>> No.17704263

why don't you go to royalflare?

>> No.17704531
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Is this the first extra to show this when you clear with all the shots?
Also Aya made this way harder than expected

>> No.17704803

>she's even hard to write for.
No kidding? This character is cursed. But thanks for the advice, anon.

>> No.17704910
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Fapping to Orin doesn't fuck work if you can't even reach her!

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>> No.17705059
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Anyone else have problems running Seihou on later OSes?

>> No.17705078

Masturbate to Satori instead!

>> No.17705080
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Finally got my first 1cc. Should i move onto other 2hus or keep playing the same one?

>> No.17705093

Which game? You should probably move to another game, but I always go back to games I already 1cc'd to get more 1ccs if I feel discouraged.

>> No.17705098

IN on normal. Gotta get myself out of the habit of deathbombing

>> No.17705114

Try PCB, EoSD, TD or HSiFS if you want an easy one.

>> No.17705322

>t.Reimu A

>> No.17705464

What am I supposed to be doing on Practice Start?

>> No.17705484

Start practice.

>> No.17705499

git gud

>> No.17705526

Sucks 9000 cocks

>> No.17705801

Learn what you're doing wrong, then stop doing those things.

>> No.17706140

Skip to further stage to git gud at particular one you believe you have problem/-s with

>> No.17706153
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Flan done.

It took me a long time to notice, but the big fairy just before Patche is invincible during its barrage. So there's a pro tip: don't worry about trying to shoot it down, just take as much space as you need to dodge.

>> No.17706633

everyone posting garage like this should be required by law to post their world record

>> No.17706649

If I want to post my garage here then that's my own goddamn business.

>> No.17706651

Personally I think the Aya games are really good for learning to fly unsafely

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>> No.17706654

Oh, thanks Anon.

>> No.17706661

there are only 2 types of touhou players
1. the player who breezes through everything and gets to wr level in <500 hours
2. the retard who tries really hard and wonder why he can't accomplish anything regardless because he's been misled by memes

>> No.17706689

you mean <100

>> No.17706693

You mean <10

>> No.17706701

500 is still acceptable because there are lots of small goals you can make for yourself along the way, and you can kill time with lnn stuff or whatever. above that though, you're probably having a miserable time and it's obvious you're going to suck forever

>> No.17706732

You press Quit and get good by playing the main game instead. Unless it's something extremely bullshitty like Mai's non-spell which can't be done in Spell Practice.

>> No.17706743

yeah just do an entire run of MoF everytime you want to get better at VoWG. it might only take you ~50 hours to become semi consistent at it so this is clearly efficient practice and this guy knows what he's talking about

>> No.17706757
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>not getting a world record on your first play session.

>> No.17706774

>Unless it's something extremely bullshitty like Mai's non-spell which can't be done in Spell Practice
VoWG is bulshitty and doesn't have Spell Practice. Stop being retarded

>> No.17706782

there's a vowg onlt .dat which is pretty much spell practice though
it's dumb to do full runs for practice regardless anyway, if there's something you're really not consistent on you should practice it exclusively until you're at least half decent. it's just common sense

>> No.17706920

Who are you quoting?

>> No.17707108
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I got a few questions about IN 1cc graph:

1)If I wanna play as an individual character, I just need to either hold shift all the time or never press shift, right?
2)The A and B sections of the graph correspond Stage6A and Stage6B, right?
3)Is it possible to fill the entire graph?

>> No.17707125

You unlock solo characters after clearing the game with their team. Play more, all will become clear.

>> No.17707170

You unlock individual teams when you clear ending B with every team. If it were just "hold shift all the time" then Remilia would be impossible. Yes to both questions 2 and 3.

>> No.17707193

Cool, I beat Ran. Now, to grind those 60 spell cards...

>> No.17707204
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By clearing, do you mean 1cc? Or just clearing using continues?

>> No.17707223

You can't clear Ending B without doing it as a 1cc.

>> No.17707229

Fuck my life. Thanks Anon.

>> No.17707243

If it helps, most new players find B to be easier than A.

>> No.17707271


>> No.17707310
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>there's an option to start the game with 7 lives in IN
Hold the fuck up, you're telling me this is the reason why these bitches think IN is piss easy? They start with 7 lives instead of the default 3?

>> No.17708048

Touhou 8 NNB anon here. Marisa's second cd shot is bullshit, how do you even get through the purple streams (basically the closest ones to a complete wall) by not just praying?

>> No.17708056

This is pretty aesthetic

>> No.17708163

It's either that or that thing where if one repeats a false thing enough times it becomes the truth. Most likely both.

>> No.17708419

Is there is something that should never be done, its drawing wingless fairies
You need to route that non anon.
No, IN does have the easiest easy mode, so you know what kind of people say that.

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I also thought IN was piss easy because I cleared it after a few tries on either 7 or 5 lives many years ago.

I played it again with 3 (default lives) a few days ago and it caught me off guard how much I relied on extra lives.
It was still easy though (now at least), and I got off with 4 lives remaining at the end of both routes after losing a run once. I swear Eirin's hp had little left!

>> No.17708579

there are only 2 types of touhou players
1. talented players
2. talentless retards

>> No.17708585


Found a solution for anyone else who wants to play. If you put this in the folder, you can run it windowed at full speed. Compatibility mode + other stuff breaks it.

>> No.17708595

I would say the retards are the ones who only like the game for the memes and iosys (more memes). Guys who play consistently even just normal are fine in my book.

>> No.17708618

you're just repeating what i said

>> No.17708622

i'm just summarizing what you said

>> No.17708832

Its normal mode is certainly easier than other games, at least in the route B ending. There's a reason people tell you to start with either 6, 7 or 8, and it's not because you can start with more lives.

>> No.17709299

Who's the best shot in TD?

>> No.17709467
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It is done. Brb fapping to tanuki abuse

Youmu at 4 no dobut, but if you're losing power many spellcards become much much harder than with the usual girls because her charged shot is too short.
Otherwise I think the other 3 are more or less the same, so just use the one you like the most

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I know, this isn't Touhou, but holy shit, this game would be better without the overreliance on RNGesus.

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I hate SoEW so much, I've died three times now near the very end (not sure exactly how close, but it was very close) after getting to Mima with 2-3 lives in reserve. I'm sorely tempted to use a script for autofire.

>> No.17710368

What difficultly?. It can be fun once you get the feel for it.
Mashing fire is a pain but you will get through it, just time your bombs right.

It took me like a 2 weeks playing off and on to normal 1cc with ReimuA and then another 3 days for B and C. It was my second touhou game I played (I played them in order), so the bigger hit box and no focus didn't really feel like a crutch since didn't play the later games that feature them. Fuck that extra though.

>> No.17710434

Normal. I've been using B, I heard it was easier than A. How bad is the difficulty spike between normal and lunatic? I'm usually only dying to/bombing through the second boss, Marisa, and Mima (and one part in the fourth or fifth stage where I always accidentally wall myself).

>> No.17710578

I found it easier with A, the speed helps with collecting Point/Power items, thus more lives. B and C are slow as balls in caparison. But once you tackle A, B and C should follow relatively quickly. Focus on Marisa patterns more, and bomb your way through Mima if you must. That's the way I did it.

I'm no lunatic player but as far as I can tell, the difficulty spike is pretty fucking high in lunatic, since you kinda have to be aggressive in point/power/bomb colletion for lives. And those said items fall off the screen pretty quickly. With no auto collect, no focus, and shit flying towards you at high speed (on lunatic), SoEW becomes one of the harder games to 1cc. Don't sweat it if can't beat it at that level.

Also kinda off topic, but changing the music to MIDI mode did help me push through, since it's fucking great. I use Nekoproject2, Virtual MIDISynth, and Patch93s sc-55 soundfont v2.2 in order for it to work properly.

>> No.17710629

SoEW is actually one of the easier games to 1cc on Lunatic, getting lives is a joke.

Source : Did it in 1 credit while trying for EoSD Lunatic 1cc back in the day, used ReimuA

>> No.17710658

Guess maybe I should jump back into sometime then. I gave up halfway on luntic and moved on to PoDD.

>> No.17710696
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Decided to finally try ReimuC, if you just bomb literally everything on mima entering her with 2 lives, you dont have to dodge anything.

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I hate this spellcard with a fucking passion. Can I get some super cool /jp/ tips and tricks? I am so fucking inconsistent with this one it's incredible.

>> No.17710881

start under mystia and stream to the right, it becomes stupidly easy

>> No.17710883

Shit dude, I'm trash at this game, but I can clear this one, so it shouldn't be too difficult for you. Make smaller movements, try not to change position too much or you can lose track of bullets.

>> No.17710915
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I have no idea what I'm doing.


>> No.17710934

You're moving around way too much.

>> No.17710955

Oh god, just watching that stressed me out.

>> No.17711067
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When your 1cc attempt ends at the final nonspell.

>> No.17711089
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When you fucked up and lost all your lives at the final boss's early spellcard but you managed to clutch it in the end. That's how I got my first 1cc.

>> No.17711099

>talking down to someone when you don't have a single lunatic clear

>> No.17711399
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IN's hard mode is slapping my ass. For the past two hours I haven't even been able to get past the first three stages without using bombs or losing a life.

>> No.17711422

why do you move like that? stay at the bottom of the screen and just stream to right or left, but more importantly: move only when a bullet is going to you

>> No.17711751

Just cleared HSiFS's EX stage for the first time ever today and it came down to me barely edging out with no bombs and no lives left because I lost all my lives stupidly in her final three spellcards.

In fact to date it's the first time ever I've cleared an EX stage. For the record my only other 1cc's were TD and GFW but I haven't cleared either of their EX stages.

>> No.17711901

It's a viable play style though tiring, when done right. That's not done right though.

>> No.17711917

Are danmaku games good for exercising your brain?

>> No.17711953

No, does fidget spinner help your brain concentrate?

>> No.17712037

They're good for exercising your reflexes.

>> No.17712149

>For the past two hours I haven't even been able to get past the first three stages without using bombs or losing a life.
That's not even close to necessary for just a 1cc.

>> No.17712436

Not him, but I always reset after a miss before stage 4. And if you know you're going to need a certain amount of bombs for something, then wasting one is the same as missing.

>> No.17712576

>For the record my only other 1cc's were TD and GFW
GFW is hard-fags BTFO

>> No.17712586

This is the incorrect mindset.
You should just practice all the game alike.

>> No.17712614
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Mystic Square Extra No-Bombs

>> No.17712618

Nice safespot

>> No.17712632

Even if you miss right at the final spell?

You don't need to play this good unless you're going for a no-bomb and even 1 miss before stage 4 is not a reset if you do stage 4 well, in my view

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>> No.17712654

>not using release
what's it like being a brainlet?

>> No.17712754

This. You'll get uber-good at the early stages, yet, when the perfect run will occur, with no misses nor bombs used on them, you will lose it all right after that, as you did not practice the later stages. Just play the gaem

>> No.17712864

>changing the music to MIDI mode
I think this is what helped me finally clear it, thanks anon.

Do you accumulate lives even more quickly in lunatic than normal? I looked on the wiki and didn't see what point totals gave you additional lives, but I might be blind.

>> No.17712952

1 million, 2 million, 3 million, 5 million, 8 million.

items in Lunatic are worth 4x as much.

>> No.17712968

Ah. I guess it will only grant a couple more lives, but that might be enough with how many bombs drop. Are bosses about the same in terms of health?

>> No.17713053

Using releases in a real run is one thing, using it in spell practice is just silly. Ever wonder why bombs are disabled?

>> No.17713090

You make a good point, but on the other hand, releases don't prevent you from capturing spell cards in-game. It's like they're considered part of your shot instead of a special attack. Given that, using them or not depends on whether you're practicing to dodge the card or just capture it.

>> No.17713105

yes, bosses have same HP.

>> No.17713194
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>finally get my first 1cc ever
>just Normal IN, but still proud as fuck, even if I fucked up last spell of erin spectacularly
>"yeah boy, time for the real ending"
>bad ending, try to play without suing continues
>number of continues used=0
the fuck

>> No.17713201

Final B.
Why doesn't anyone put attention to the fucking charts

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That's divine punishment for misusing the quote function, you have to 1cc again as penance.

>> No.17713245

Tried a no death run thinking it would be easier than no bomb but it turned out just as hard since i died at apollo 13.
On the brighter side i beat suwako with reimu, meaning i got the clear without a glitch.

>> No.17713261

fuck you man, I'm too shit at these games, I want to take a break now

also, there is literally nothing wrong with using greentext as a narrative format

>> No.17713344

>misusing the quote function
It's not a "quote" function since like 2005 or something.

>> No.17713383

Good work anon, now do ending B, it's easier than ending A.

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>it's easier than ending A.

>> No.17713399

It is on Normal.

>> No.17713406

oh right

>> No.17713412

You can practice getting PIV from spells in spell practice with releases. I've heard that it is very precise in some places in order to get the right amount.

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I'm making some progress on Koishi, but got absolutely wrecked towards the end.
How in the world do you do "Genetics of the Subconscious"? Is it supposed to be played like a survival card?
And is there a good pattern for moving through the intersecting yellow bullets in the second phase of "Philosophy of the Hated Person"? I immediately died twice into a game over trying to read them blind.

>> No.17713690

I'm a brainlet how do you compile xnp2 on debian?

>> No.17713711

>Is it supposed to be played like a survival card?
No, it's similar to Nue's Undefined Darkness. It's one of her hardest spells though.
>Philosophy of the Hated Person
Move...fast? I know it's hard, but you don't want to get crushed by Koishi's coils.
If if makes you happy, you can time out the final spell and it won't activate the other phases, but it's an incredibly disgusting thing you'd never do, right, anon?

>> No.17713822

I get that you move around the screen to avoid her patch of expanded bullets, but how do you actually move from one gap to the next? Bullets that come from multiple directions are totally beyond me, I can't even get a grip on what's happening in that pattern.

>> No.17713837

Watch a no miss no bomb replay or a youtube video. It's pretty hard to explain with text. You can follow the same strategy every time because the rose patches move the same way every single time.

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Netherworld Team is a lot better than I gave them credit for, goddamn. Dodging as Youmu is a bit tough at times but the way this time clears bosses AND stages is phenomenal

>> No.17714031

Specifically, does anyone know a way to get fullscreen working with Unity.?

>> No.17714184
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I'm glad you have realized this anon! They are secretly the best shot in the game!!

>> No.17714194

Holy shit move less

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I've already had my best run so far (Until Reisen, anyway, in which I completely jobbed) so I'll get their 1cc soon enough. I'm actually having a lot less trouble than I did with BT, and despite expecting it to be more difficult to get Last Spells, it's actually significantly easier.

>> No.17714946


Jesus take the wheel

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He should move more.

>> No.17714983

That's not a very efficient way of doing it, and look at his post again, he's playing Hard, not Lunatic.

>> No.17715011

What a fucking retard

>> No.17715052
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Youmu ExNB featuring 6 fucking misses. Only 3 shots left to NB this with, this took more tries than it should have.
After Final A, I'm not playing this shottype ever again, holy shit

>> No.17715090

Is the Malice Cannon cheating bullshit or is it cool? This shot type is pretty ass.

>> No.17715114

It's fine

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Thanks for taking my obvious joke that seriously. Here's the one with the right difficulty, sorry about that.

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Original poster of the webm here, thanks for making me laugh anon. I'll do my best.

>> No.17715145

I have to be retarded or something. I don't know how you guys have the patience to clear PoFV with multiple characters but can't do games like DDC 1cc. I've only managed to clear PoFV with Marisa because no matter how well I perform, I always lose to Shikeiki's bullshit while she strokes out on the other side of the screen through impossible bullet patterns.

>> No.17715155

No problem just having some fun.
If you want a real hint, like some anon already said, just try to stream slowly from one side to the other and double back when you get close to one edge.
And yes, keep knee-jerk movements to a minimum, if that hasn't been spammed enough yet.

>> No.17715174

This is the pomf anon 2 years from now with always-move strategy

>> No.17715970


You think it's funny now, but he'll be the one laughing when Lunatic Always Move No Stream becomes the hot new category.

>> No.17716129

Any tips for Yukari? Using SakuyaA.

>> No.17716199

Use bombs.

>> No.17716594

how are you so talented

>> No.17716700

Oh man don't worry, I'm not even planning on doing every character for PoFV, and most of my attempts in that game end up losing all of my lives against Eiki.

>> No.17716830
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For Curse of Dreams and Reality, you have to move a bit more than Ran's version, which means you'll have to change direction a few times. It's a pain in the ass, and I don't know if there's a great way to do it.
For Balance of Motion and Stillness, move in a large counterclockwise box. Start towards the bottom left, then slowly stream to the right to do the bulk of your damage. Once you're near the right edge, move quickly up to misdirect the next shots, back across to the left side moving just below Yukari (as she shoots two down the center), down through the previous wave's bullets (as she shoots two off to the left), and repeat. SakuyaA should make it quick.
For shikigami Ran, stay centered, about halfway up to Yukari. Ran's path takes her up the center through that area twice each cycle, so dodge in alternate directions and work your way back before she returns.
For Danmaku Bounded Field, it's static, so you can either watch a replay or figure it out yourself, and just memorize where to go each time.
And you know how to do everything else because it's basically the same as Ran.
>>17716199 is right as well, Sakuya gets four bombs per life, so if you're proactive with them you can bomb 28 times in that stage. That won't help you learn how to do it with Mari, though.

>> No.17717471

Tried GFW again yesterday and got to the last spell on normal.

I can feel the 1cc.

>> No.17717492

I got to the fourth phase of the SoEW extra boss today. I don't feel like it's gonna happen soon.

>> No.17718139

just be born with the right genes

>> No.17718912 [DELETED] 

>did Ame No Norigoto no item in less than 100 tries
Feels great man. Also Only-Slaying, Eye-Stabbing Needle can be really fun once you figure out how to do it.

>> No.17718918

>did Ame no Norigoto no item in less than 100 tries
Feels great man. Also Oni-Slaying, Eye-Stabbing Needle can be really fun once you figure out how to do it.

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I made it through A-2 without dying for the first time ever, but it still wasn't enough to get through A-3.

>> No.17719595
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Fucking hell. Attempted to capture Astronomical Entombing almost 40 times and failed all of them. I will never be good at this game.

>> No.17719916

If you think attempting a spell 40 times is a lot you will indeed never be good.

>> No.17719939

Every replay I watch has a minimum capture rate of 50%, usually much higher depending on the spell card. I play on Normal, too...
On the bright side I managed to capture it a few times, currently sitting at 6/84.

>> No.17719974
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>2 lives
>9 bombs
>Kanako's last spellcard
>"I got this."
>doesn't even managed to whittle down half of her hp
Why is it so painful /jp/?

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Greentext abusers deserves no 1cc.

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How else am I going to say all of that without meme arrows?

>> No.17720158
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"At last, I got there, the end of my journey was just there, only last move remained... I was pretty confident, I've still had two lives and nine bombs in my reserve and the last spellcard's name just appeared on my screen. That was it, or at least I thought so, no, I was certain. "I got this.", I thought, yet I did not even manage to take majority of energy from my last opponent. I was defeated; a shameful discomfiture, an unforgivable setback.
Why is it so painful /jp?"

for example

>> No.17720169

Wow, Kaguya is much easier than Eirin. That was unexpected.

>> No.17720185

Nah, you can hold my balls on that one. Meme arrows are way easier.

>> No.17720518

This is much worse.

>> No.17720564

No fucking shit

>> No.17720592

Woah there, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

>> No.17720758
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I can't beat Meiling with Raymoo on easy. I need to get good.

>> No.17720820
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>finally beat Kanako
>got hit by random bullet at the very last moment
>failed 1cc
It's hurt /jp/...It's hurt so bad....

>> No.17720962

I actually like this. Threads would be a lot more interesting if people posted their progress reports in the form of fanfic-tier purple prose.

>> No.17721163

autists who are bothered by something as dumb as a board tag and prefer autistic walls of text deserve no social interaction

tl;dr last time I reply to a "m-muh who are you quoting?! ;_;" retard

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See: >>17720003

>> No.17721218

>40 times
Come back when you've tried it 400 times.

>> No.17721324

>400 times
Come back when you've tried it 4000 times.

>> No.17721331

>4000 times
Come back when you've tried it 40000 times.

>> No.17721354

>40000 times
Come back when you've tried it 400000 times.

>> No.17721361 [DELETED] 

Kill yourself.

>> No.17721377 [DELETED] 

Why are you being mad when you're not even the one that post the greentext?

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This shit made me kekkle

>> No.17721981

Then you didn't beat her.
I agree, it's hilarious.

>> No.17721985

Sure. It won't happen though

>> No.17722083
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Fuck this game and anyone who ever said it was easy.

>> No.17722220 [DELETED] 

I don't have to be mad to tell someone to make the world a better place by hanging themselves pal

>> No.17722222

Still one of the easiest games, you just need to freeze everything and dodge few bullets

>> No.17722225

It's not easy, but it's not the hardest either.

>> No.17722232

Quints confirm.

>> No.17722237

Woah GFWishardfags BTFO forever

>> No.17722245

It's only not the hardest now because LoLK exists. Having played all the way through, I can confidently say that no ordinary game's Normal mode even comes close.

Nah mate, the other games are even easier 'cause all you have to do is go where the bullets aren't.

>> No.17722300

Probably, but I'd say UFO is harder than GFW too.

>no ordinary game's Normal mode even comes close
Yeah, but none of the other games can count on freezing as a reliable resource.

>> No.17722498

What the fuck are you smoking, UFO isn't even that hard.
>none of the other games can count on freezing
What do you even mean? Fairy Wars would be impossible without freezing, but even with freezing it's still retardedly difficult.

>> No.17722671

Everyone knows UFO is one of the hardest games along with SA and LoLK senpai, but nice try.

>but even with freezing it's still retardedly difficult.
Lol are you really that bad at a game with 3 freaking stages on it that showers you with lives? You can't make this shit up.

>> No.17722707

>that showers you with lives
I suspect you haven't played the game very much, because while oft-repeated, that isn't actually true. It gives you an average amount of lives, but that isn't adjusted for the high difficulty or the fact that you don't start with any. Also remember that, unlike in other games, lives don't come with bombs, so each one only lets you make one mistake instead of three or four.

>> No.17722708

>hardest games
One day you'll get out of normal mode.

>> No.17722721

They are clearly talking about normal mode, this post was unnecessary and shitty.

>> No.17722725

The game does give you a ton of lives, but you're only going to get them if you route the fuck out of the game.

>> No.17722745

>It gives you an average amount of lives
The game is half the length, anon.

>> No.17722746

>One day you'll get out of normal mode.
Already did pham replay.royalflare.net/replay2/th11_ud5461.rpy

>I suspect you haven't played the game very much
Actually I have and here's actual proof that the game showers you with lives: replay.royalflare.net/replay2/th128_ud5462.rpy
I missed like 7 times on the last level? No idea, I didn't count and yet I still managed to 1cc it.
>or the fact that you don't start with any
You do start with lives actually, it's you who hasn't played the game isn't it?
>lives don't come with bombs
Right, it comes with rechargeable bombs instead so as long as you survive for a long time you actually get to recharge those bombs you lost along the way.

>> No.17722785

Not only is seven lives average, but that's on Lunatic. You're right that I misremembered motivation starting at 100 rather than 200, but in that case, there's definitely nothing unusual about getting six extra lives.
>so as long as you survive for a long time
In other words, you don't get bombs in the second half.

>> No.17722791

you get like fucking 14 lives or more on Lunatic.

you also get loads of bombs on Lunatic if you know how to freeze.

gfw is easy

>> No.17722792

>Not only is seven lives average
Lol are you the one smoking now? Losing seven lives in the same stage WHILE still missing in previous stages (and let me remind you, there are only 3) is not average. It's a shitton of lives.
>There's definitely nothing unusual about getting six extra lives
It is for such a short game, and it's not just 6 since I also lost lives in the previous stages.

>You don't get bombs in the second half
Not if you're absolute shit, no. But that's not something that determines a game's difficulty, now is it.

>> No.17722808

I assumed you weren't an idiot who would keep playing after dying before stage 3.
Regardless, if you're good enough to play on Lunatic, then of course it seems easy. And I'm telling you from the perspective of someone who is in fact shit, Fairy Wars can't even be compared to the other games in terms of difficulty. It's in a whole other league.

>> No.17722827

>I assumed you weren't an idiot who would keep playing after dying before stage 3
No I'm just not an idiot who resets because I know that the game shits out a million lives

>And I'm telling you from the perspective of someone who is in fact shit
Ah, what's the point of all this discussion then. And to be fair, I cleared GFW Normal and Extra way before I picked up Lunatic.

>> No.17722954

next time do't link us to a botnet and use gensokyo and best in the west like everyone else.

>> No.17722993

The point is that you're spouting bullshit about how this game isn't hard. I actually watched that replay, and yeah, you can't get away with playing that poorly on Normal.
And now I'm trying to do A-2, and it's even more ridiculous. There's a spell card that's all fireballs. Just fireballs. What the fuck. You can't fucking put this on the same level as anything else. An ordinary person can't do this. It's unprecedented bullshit difficulty. "UFO is harder" my ass, go fuck yourself, I'd have better luck fighting Shou six times in a row than finishing every route in this game.

>> No.17723030

Is everything a botnet to you?

>> No.17723110

Shut up, botnet.

>> No.17723199

Hahaha, just look at how mad you are! Everyone, point and laugh! Let me make it clear for you once and for all since you insist even though you already admitted to being shit so going on with this discussion is pointless: The game isn't hard to you because of its mechanics anon, the game is hard to you because you're shit.

>> No.17723213

>like everyone else
So, just you then? Stop being so butthurt about nothing.

>> No.17723260

>best in the west
Faggots didn't even update it for HSiFS

>> No.17723284
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Any tips for this boss fight?

>> No.17723385

>finally got to Suwako without losing a life
>prepared to get through Two Bows, Two Claps, and One Bow effortlessly as usual
>this time it was tilted 30 degrees to the left
What the hell? Does it have to do with my starting position for that spellcard?

>> No.17723390

Guys how many attempts on average do you think it takes for someone to actually get a 1cc? I'm at that point where my mind is broken from how many fucking attempts I've made at this point. I mean, I'm not exactly counting anymore, but I'm getting to the point where I genuinely feel like this fucking 1cc ain't happening.

As a human being, I don't think this shit's possible. Humans can't do this. The only things on this planet who can do this are robots, calculators, and Asians.

I'm gonna go practice some more now that I have that out of my system.

>> No.17723398

What are you trying for?

>> No.17723406

Practice mode is your friend.

>> No.17723407

That depends, which game, how many 1ccs do you have? Your first 1cc will probably take longer than most of your other 1ccs.

>> No.17723409

Better to think in hours than in attempts. Anyway, it can't be too bad, can it?

It's aimed, just look at a video if you want to know how it works.

>> No.17723432

IN hard mode. If this is the easiest one, then holy fuck I'm in for a wild ride.

I managed to get a hard mode 1cc with default starting lives in 7, and I got another one in 6 with the extra lives turned on. I also 1cc'd Normal mode in 10, 14, and 16 as well.

I tried that, but then I goof it in an actual run, so I prefer to get all my practice from the actual run instead.

It's really not super crazy, I'm just getting frustrated with patterns that overlap themselves. Midboss Tewi and Eirin are infuriating and Kaguya's stupid fucking lasers just feel like something that I can't react to. Marisa's stupid fucking stars are also driving me nuts, because I feel like half the time I'm super confident and I die, but then there's times where I somehow avoid them without a single shred of confidence. I know Marisa's a magician, but there's too much magic here for me to comprehend.

>> No.17723471

Watch this if you want and fast forward to that spell. This should explain to you how is it aimed and when does she aim at you.

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>extra lives
You might want to use this chart from now on anon

>> No.17723514

Whoa, I wasn't expecting that at all.

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I hate yuuka

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>> No.17724066

it's impossible to get lnnn i give up

>> No.17724086

just do score it's more fun

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You mean this spell?

>> No.17724679

How do I fix the glitch that my character starts moving upwards even when I'm not holding the up arrow key? I'm on Rainbow Danmaku with only one bomb left because this glitched just caused me to use two of them and I don't want to lose because of this.

>> No.17724716

get a better keyboard, alternatively press the key again

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I just fixed it by pressing up/8 on the number pad. I didn't even realise number pad could be used for Touhou until now. And I didn't die so that's good, although I fucked up the last spells. I'm just happy that I have a solo human 1cc now.

>> No.17724747

grats on softest 2hu 1cc, the only 1cc you'll ever need

>> No.17724790

I have the same problem with my cheap keyboard. I'm getting a better one eventually, but for now I've just learned to turn ON mouse keys whenever I play Touhou. That way, if the numpad keys activate they move my mouse cursor instead of moving my Reimu.

That's great. Glad it didn't cause you to lose the 1cc.

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Yaaaaaayyyy!!! Finally got my second 1cc on my waifu game. My first one is >>17699534. I'm so fucking happy now.

>> No.17724945

We should make a new thread

>> No.17724977

Thread's not on page 9/10 yet, no reason to do so until then if it's just going to be the same general thread.

>> No.17725003
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So what? You have an OCD or something? Why do you want to be a special snowflake so much?


Also, let's put this in the next OP. It would certainly help some people out.

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>> No.17725055

Sorry, I misread. I thought he was saying "It's just going to make us nothing different from a general if we create a new thread".

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I dont know where to ask this on this board, and /g/ wont answer my question as they dont know the answer, so I'll just put this here.
What libraries does ZUN use while programming 2hu? I know for a fact he uses c++ in visual studio. I just want to know whats the optimum amount of knowledge required to code this type of game. Doesnt help that my field is electronics and Im bit of a noob in programming aside from some embedded stuff.
Libraries as in graphics libraries, sound li raries etc.

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guess I should have just posted in the next thread since didnt see the post counter.

>> No.17725358

Is that a legit freeze-maximizing technique or is he just being cheeky on purpose?

The graphics are all done with DirectX, mostly with the sprite-drawing functions, and sound with DirectSound. If you can learn the basics of how to write a generic game engine, I think the only unique challenge of a danmaku game would be the mathematics needed to make good patterns. In any case, you'll have to work your way up to it, so be patient.

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thanks m8.
here have a cute orin.

>> No.17726002

How the fuck do you get enemies to die in PoFV? They just get to one hp and then suddenly become pros at dodging

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They're on a timer. You don't get them to die, you just survive long enough that the timer runs down and they suicide. However, you do have to shoot or the timer won't tick down. Komachi and Eiki have ridiculously long timers to start, but they get shorter each time you lose, so the best strategy is to stock up on lives early on and not die at all before stage 8.

>> No.17726119

>How the fuck do you get enemies to die in PoFV?
Survive long enough or play Aya.

>> No.17726490

I still don't understand why people call Youmu the softest when Yuyuko exists. Lack of features perhaps?

>> No.17726519

so difficulty wise HSiFS is as hard as LoLK, UFO and SA; as easy as PCB, IN and MoF or normal in between?

>> No.17726579

>HSiFS is as hard as LoLK
HSiFS is the easiest game in the series.

>> No.17726580

HSiFS is only hard in the sense the patterns are brutal and you do a no release run it's probably up there with LoLK.

It's one of the easiest 2hu games to play normally practically TD/IN tier because of the release mechanic being really powerful

>> No.17726592

I usually post a new thread when this is the last one in the catalog anon.
Also the OP is perfect the way it is now, if someone needs a chart someone will provide one, simple as that.

>> No.17726609

well, would you say its easy in a bad sense?

>> No.17726631

come on anon, can't be easier than IN, it makes you start with 2 lives when in IN you can start with 7

t:someone who thinks IN is the best game

>> No.17726641

>Starting with extra lives
Is that even a real clear?

>> No.17726645

we can argue then that using release isn't a real clear

if the game lets you then its valid

>> No.17726650

That's not a game mechanic, that's a meta-game option that the program lets you set. PCB also lets you play in slow mode. Neither count as a genuine 1cc. Crutches like that are only for opening up stages for practice.

>> No.17726658

come on man, don't take away the only 1cc I've ever done
you don't know how bad I am at these games

>> No.17726682

If you spent less time abusing the poor surprise boxes and more time practicing, you wouldn't be so bad.

>> No.17726683

No one compares the mechanics with being able to add extra lives lol, don't reply to shitposters.

>> No.17726694

Starting with extra lives isn't the same as using or even abusing a game mechanic. That's like arguing there's no difference between an Easy 1cc and a Hard 1cc

>> No.17726700

I seriously have no idea what you are talking about

and seriously, I practice a lot, playing daily, I was serious when I said that I'm just really bad

>> No.17726713

Spoiler tags are not available in every board, only those that pertain to media discussion. Guess why?

>> No.17726716

He told you not to abuse spoiler tags, you know, a "no fun allowed" kinda deal

>> No.17726758

>playing daily

Don't do this with mechanically difficult games. You will only burn yourself out. You will perform your best in game when you have a clear head and mindet, playing off and on.

>> No.17727217

Nothing wrong with playing hard games a lot as long as you know when to stop and let yourself unwind.

>> No.17727565

How often do you burn out? I think, after getting my first handful of 1ccs, I might have burnt myself out by obsessing and stressing over wanting to get them.

>> No.17727721

I'm not at all burnt out at touhou in general at all.

Though usually about 2 hours of playing, I feel like my reaction time falls over a cliff after that and I start to choke massively for the next hour. 4+ hours I start to get good again but my brain and eyes are fried. So I usually stop about 2 hours in or whenever i'm not feeling it after that.

Also need a new thread soon.

>> No.17727733

Oh, and usually play only like twice on the weekends

>> No.17728681

Oh god, I finally beat Yukari. By which I mean I finally made it to her last 3 spell cards with enough resources to just bomb the shit out of them.
Thanks for the advice, proper resource management did the trick. Someday when I'm better at this game I'll do a proper clear.

>> No.17729024

>they get shorter each time you lose
I was wondering why I would magically win against them when I felt like I wasn't improving.

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Fourth (4th (四回目)) fucking time I got a 1MNBNR what the fuck is wrong with me I hate myself.

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DirectX seems too hard for me.

>> No.17729557

No, honestly I think HSiFS is one of the funnest Touhou games in a long time, it's just really fun to play.

>> No.17729580

What are your skilz at hakery.. I mean programming?

>> No.17729683

I have mostly been working on embedded c, coding for micro-controllers and other embedded systems. I havent even learned machine language completely yet, still in my third year. Dont know much beyond that.

>> No.17729685

Well you're not going to learn it in two days. But if you said your only experience is with embedded systems, that's what, C? Assembly? You should start by learning C++ and object-oriented programming in general, and work your way up from there. Take some online courses, read some books, whatever works for you; maybe /g/ has some recommendations for how to get started.

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got my first 1cc boys

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It's pretty noticeable anon.
desu I feel like doing this,but I don't like the survival and some of her nons.
This is a very nice Extra so at least it lends itself to be replayed more than some others.
Congrats anon, nice first!

>> No.17730469

Con-fucking-grats man!

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Nice job man. Keep up the practice and try to do it with all the shot types.

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