/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Are anime, manga, video games, VNs, LNs, figs, dolls, cosplay, doujinshi, music, and moe anthropomorphisms all there is to indulge on in "2D"/anime otaku culture?
Everything sort of feels samey and old. Fate, iM@S, Vocaloid, Touhou have been the pillars for ages. It feels like I really don't care about anything anymore. Surely there must be some other angle, some new, untapped sources of cute characters I've been overlooking.

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also stuff I feel like posting for no reason.

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>>17671431
Yes, film, video games, literature, sculpture, modeling, music, and moe anthropomorphisms are all there is to otaku culture. That's about all there is to most culture.

>some new, untapped sources of cute characters I've been overlooking
Literally everything besides the ones you listed?

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>>17671470
>Literally everything besides the ones you listed?
Like what? I feel like I haven't listed everything, so I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing.

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>>17671482
This thread will be up for 3 days with no replies due to how slow /jp/ is, you don't have to imagedump to keep it on the front page.

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>>17671482
>>17671470
Unless you were talking about the series I listed, then of course I don't mean only those. It feels like they're overused though and there hasn't been any new big thing to replace them.

>>17671484
My replies are not bumping the thread.

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>>17671491
>hasn't been any new big thing to replace them
There's Kankore, but like I said, you basically listed every medium that exists, not only within otaku culture, but outside of it. The only thing I can think of that otaku culture doesn't really do is stage play, though you could argue idols could be lumped in there. Rather than trying to further expand the breadth of your interests, it would probably be better to go deeper into a single thing.

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>>17671541
There are plays of stuff. Anime usually. I don't know if that's otaku culture, but stuff from Precure to Utena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HQwzD-LS4

Series sometimes have voice actors do little plays during the meet up/gatherings/stage performances related to the series. (I don't know what these things are called, but the things where they have fans come and the actors talk about their work on the series on stage) There are also the voice drama type specials that come with stuff sometimes. I've barely been able to bring myself to care about character songs though, let alone audio dramas, even if they do sometimes reveal esoteric canon info about a particular series.

Now that I think about it, I wish one of those MMD series like Tesagure and GDGD fairies and Naria Girls would be about the actors putting on actual little plays, a different one per episode, though still ad libbing after being given a general idea of how the acts should play out.

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Dig deep into yourself and make your own

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>>17671620
Can you moe-anthropomorphize an all-consuming despairing darkness?

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>>17671650
Kancolle has already been mentioned, anon.

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>>17671431
Is kizuna Ai fresh enough? VR might be a thing in the future. Other than that the only new recent development is neural networks.

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>>17671928
VR would be cool. Ai is not though. Maybe I'll try to immerse myself in Nicovideo stuff that isn't tired gay memes or bikini dances

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>>17674620
Neural networks are cool when used for content generation. They can potentially make an unlimited amount of stuff you like, like your favourite fetish porn, your waifu's pics and what not.

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I really hope VR lives up to the hype.

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>>17674710
They work by imitation, they can't really create.

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>>17671431
That used to be one of my favourites when I was exclusively into tentacle porn. Thanks for the nostalgia trip, saved.

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>>17681062
Can't wait until the day that I can PK your virtual waifu.

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>>17681062
this would be like a dream come true for me. I'd want to be hugged by a cute girl like that everyday.

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>>17671431
OJ is the new hotness!

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>>17681175
They'd be good for doujin works then

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>>17671604
The Utena musical is a masterpiece. I was in awe the whole time. Everyone talks about the movie getting bizarre so I went in ready for that, but nothing could have prepared me for the genius of the musical.

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>>17671431
There are only two paths left for you.
Die, or accept the real world.
You are in the same spot I found myself years ago. Its the end of the line, now you need to take a decisione or wallowing indefinitely in an existential limbo.
There is no wrong choice, just different things to leave behind.

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>>17671491

Why do you need to get into "big things"? There are thousands and thousands of anime, manga, VNs, etc that you've never experienced before. Learn Japanese and that number expands dramatically. Even if they stop making otaku media tomorrow you will never run out of new stuff to experience as long as you have an internet connection.

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>>17671431
I haven't seen that image in over a decade.

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>>17682946
I meant I'm tired of seeing those 4 things at the top of the otaku world. You'd think some other franchise would have amazing power by now but it's just the same thing from ages ago. And no, Kancolle isn't anywhere near equal just because a few of your favorite artists draw images of them. I thought Granblue would be that thing but it doesn't seem to be so either.

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>>17684235
Why do you care so much that they're popular? Can you not enjoy anything that uis unpopular?

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>>17684247
It's not a matter of enjoying them, it's a matter of them dominating otaku culture (e.g. doujin works, parodies, cameos, niconico videos) and not many other notable icons appearing alongside or replacing them. Fucking Ascension of the Metatron was the closest thing I've seen to something becoming an otaku fixture. I want them to disappear and be replaced by the next evangelion or digicharat or whatever.

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>>17682943
>There is no wrong choice, just different things to leave behind.

This guy is right... Well, basically anyway. By that logic, there's actually 3 choices: die, accept the real world, or wallow in existential limbo.

I've been wallowing in existential limbo for about a year now. Of course in that time I've found a few good anime, games and other things I didn't know existed, but it's been nowhere near like the earlier years of my life where good games/whatever flowed into my life like a river. There's no backlog for me, and most of my free time this past year has been spent either on /jp/ or replaying/rewatching stuff(which is only fun for so long).

I've started working out(though really it's not for "those gainz", I'm just trying to stay in shape), I've considered trying to play guitar, I've thought about a lot of things. I have no idea what I'm going to be doing in a year, but I know that otaku culture doesn't have much left for me... Which saddens me.

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>>17671431
Never fan of Fate, Im@s, Vocaloid, Touhou, and moe anthropomorphisms like Kancolle or Kemofure
But I finally blow my money on weebshit that is BanG Dream
It's not something popular but it feels good to finally found something you love enough for you to support them financially

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>>17684369
>There's no backlog for me
>I know that otaku culture doesn't have much left for me

Learn Japanese

If you learn Japanese

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>>17684619
>If you learn Japanese
You will realize so much actual shit is out there and that all anime songs are retarded.

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>>17671928
Japan already has the world's first VR theme park, and virtual tourism has been around for a while now. VR itself has been around for decades, why are people now questioning its potential?

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>>17687187
They're questioning it's potential for things otaku care about

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Wait until Neural Uploading by 2054. Then we can all be cute 2d little girls on the internet.

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>>17671445
Who is the cutie with the blue hair? I'm loving these legos, I saw a book at a local store of lego artists' work. They had a Vocaloid one and I was blown away that it would be in a hardcover book without a copyright.

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>>17688206
What if I already am?
>:3c

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>>17688238
then let me molest you

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>>17688226
>Who is the cutie with the blue hair?
Rem from Re: Zero

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>>17671431
>Everything sort of feels samey
Just as I would have it. I don't like things different.

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>>17688135
Asians are weak against motion sickness and can't imagine a world without stupid popups and numbers getting in the way, so you might as well forget about it. Illusion made that usb onahole game, so wait for an oculus hack and the price of that hugging jacket to go down.

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>>17688242
Dad, preschool was a long time ago.
:(

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>>17681062
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I still don't understand why people talk about Virtual Reality as if it was in the future, yet to happen. Allow me to be crystal clear: VR has been available for anyone who can pay for it for YEARS now. And there already is so much eroge, VN and dating sims that you couldn't play them all even if you had all the time in the world. If you are counting on Virtual Reality ever being as cheap and simple as buying and installing a simple game, I have some very bad news for you.

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>>17671431
>all those pointy bits
>not a single scratch

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>>17689108
>I still don't understand why people talk about Virtual Reality as if it was in the future, yet to happen.
Because it has yet to happen. What we have are glasses that put TVs close to your face. People want to plug a cord into their brainstem and be inside the virtual world

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>>17689108
Because it still hasn't lived up to the promises, but it is going through rapid developments, I think it's fair to say
>I really hope VR lives up the hype.

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>>17689565
>>17689152
>never used vr before
>vr and the matrix are the same thing
>not knowing about the indian vr project

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>>17690502
>>not knowing about the indian vr project
How much peyote will I need to fuck anime chicks?

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>>17671431
>Surely there must be some other angle, some new, untapped sources of cute characters I've been overlooking.

Yourself. Time to start creating and stop consuming. Doujin culture is fundamental to otaku culture, don't miss out just because you're afraid of being called a weeb.

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>>17690820
I do "create" stuff. I started trying to draw in the early 2000s, then the moe wave hit and I felt my 90s/early 2000s group of mismatched people on an adventure ideas were outdated and gave up on it. I came up with a bunch of ideas that tended to resolve to magical girls and/or harems before working on an idea I liked that's best described as SRW but with schoolgirls instead of mechs, but then Kancolle got popular and I don't really want to work on it anymore lest people think it's too similar, also I feel like their uniforms would be perceived as too generic, since one of the things that bothers me even about Kancolle is that they all look kinda samey. Using uniforms that are intended to be uniforms that look the same per faction along with generic mass production GM types basically being clones of each other seems like it wouldn't work out that well.

A more recent idea about a fantasy world is one I really like, but given the main characters are demihuman type races mostly interacting with demihuman races, if I ever go forward with it, I have to make extra sure it isn't associated with monstergirl trash and squarely remains its vaguely D&D with a few JRPG influences world.

My latest idea is just simply about catgirls but in thinking too much about it, I became disillusioned with animal ear girls in general. (the theme sometimes dips into the ethics of keeping them as pets when they're nearly human in intelligence and genetics) Although, I'd already been bothered since Dog Days about things regarding racial sensitivity in that world; whether it's really okay to call them cats and dogs even if they refer to themselves as such, what it would be like if some of them were brought to earth, how the maid characters would respond to being treated as pets by humans, having been servile to begin with, how Rico would be if she were treated as a pet despite being more intelligent than average humans and having had a high status, whether a normal human would actually mind being a pet since it's basically being a child but more respected, and ultimately if there's even a difference between a kemonomimi girl and a normal human girl who will go meow if you want her to. I came to the conclusion that it's just a racial fetish just like liking asian eyes or brown skin or blonde hair or something.

Besides that, my biggest problem is writing anything besides outlines and details. i.e. the actual story part. If I ever figure that out, I might just write a simple story I had about a catgirl reversed harem(not reverse as in male harem but reverse as in the girls are the protagonists rather than potential heroines) that probably spawned from that disillusionment I mentioned.

I also feel intense regret over the dozens of characters I've created that are nothing more than a single fading sketch in a pile of papers.

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>>17691061
This is the most disgusting, rage inducing thing I have ever heard in all this time here and because I have never seen anything like it I'm having a hard time trying to tell myself it's just pasta. In the off chance you're actually serious, please kill yourself or at least stay away as possible from human civilization including otaku culture.

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>>17691303
why are you angry about a post on 4chan

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>>17690820
How the hell can gaijin contribute to otaku culture? At best he can make something for weebs, but considering the fact that there is no feedback from japs, it's fucking meaningless. If you can't hire translator and release your stuff over there, that is.

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>>17689113
It's like magic, isn't it? That's why it's so enticing.

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>>17693245
You don't even need to contribute, just make stuff that you would like.

>but considering the fact that there is no feedback from japs, it's fucking meaningless.

I have about a hundred Japanese followers on Pixiv and was commissioned by one to draw hentai. That's feedback enough for me.

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>>17693380
What fetish did they ask for

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>>17693589
Bestiality and rape.

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>>17693595
vanilla af, I expected more from NIPPON s m h

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>>17693245
One Piece was made by a black american.

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>>17671431
Kemofure. I mean it.

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>>17695805
That series is dead already.

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I haven't really read all the posts in this thread but whenever someone comes up saying things like "Wow X and Y have become boring I'm tired what to do now", they need to realize the problem always comes from them, as simple as this. Medias, arts, enjoyments, however you name them, those things are taken subjectively from a person to another, you cannot put the blame on them.

Anon is right here >>17690820 >>17693380.
You need to treat medias as fuel for your own endeavors and not as sole pillar to sustain and keep you going. You need to find your own flame and keep it lit, because you can't know when the ones you picked up along the way might stop shining light your way.

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You can always explore some other aspects of the series.

I like Touhou a lot for the mythical/folklore aspects, you could always invest yourself in that kind of stuff.
Works very well if you live out in the country (close to a forest or etc) or somewhere that isn't a city or a suburb.

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>>17693245
You can put on your big boy pants and learn some basic Japanese, like the hundreds of Taiwanese and Koreans and Russians and French that make the cut every Comiket.

This weird "only ~pureblooded Yamato tribesmen~ can handle this mysterious artform" identity obsession some Americans have is doubly destructive, it keeps most of them from even trying and makes most of the ones who do work in the specific, outdated, and restrictive OEL form.

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>>17691061
So haven't created anything. Just stop now and spare yourself the headaches.