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Daily reminder that Momiji does not have wolf ears or a tail.

>> No.17617428

>>17617426
Daily reminder that Momiji does not deserve her own thread

>> No.17617433

>>17617426
Her sprite has ears

>> No.17617437

NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN

>> No.17617444
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>>17617433
Where do you see ears?

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>> No.17617475

>>17617463
We don't even know if that's Momiji or just another crow tengu.

>> No.17617476

>>17617455

fake news

>> No.17617493
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>>17617426
Aya can hide her wings in the manga. So why can't Momiji hide her ears?

>> No.17617526

>>17617455
That's fan art desu

>> No.17617535

>>17617475
What we do know is that you are on denial

>> No.17617555

Daily reminder Tengu are shapeshifters.

>> No.17617573
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>>17617463
>>17617493
We have multiple instances of artists getting details wrong in official Touhou works.
SSiB had Lily White and Lily Black together in the same scene.
ZUN confessed that the artist also got the Lunarian weapons completely wrong.
Both SSiB and CoLA got Marisa's eye color wrong on multiple occasions.

ZUN is a busy guy, and likely does not have the time to look over all the art that his manga artists put out. More likely than not, he simply sends his artists an outline of what he wants them to draw in a scene, and the artist has liberty in deciding certain details such as the specifics of clothing or unimportant background cameos. So using visuals specifically from the manga to support your head canon, which has no basis in anything else from official canon, is willful ignorance at best.

Of course, knowing how discussions of this manner usually go, you'll probably start crying about how Moe is different or how ZUN literally controls everything published under his name at all times nowadays. Or you'll just post ZUN art expecting some sort of point to be made magically.

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>>17617573
And here's an example of a guest artist getting a detail wrong.

>> No.17617619

>>17617573
Its pretty obvious that its just artist taking liberties in their works, considering >>17617463
>>17617426
Are both canon.

I dont think Marisa is 130cm like how its mentioned in CoLA either.

>> No.17617653

>>17617573
This isn't a book from God. So it's prone to mistake. All I'm saying is the only way to make sense of both >>17617463 and >>17617426 is to say that Momiji can hide her ears, just like Aya with her wings.

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Daily reminder

>> No.17617669

>>17617619
Oh, cool.
I'm sorry, I've only ever discussed this topic on other boards, I didn't expect a resonable response. But yes, I agree that Marisa probably isn't as short as CoLA art makes her look. That's likely a byproduct of the artist emphasizing Rinnosuke's height in order to make him visually stand out as a more masculine figure, as well as to emphasize the perceived youthfulness of Marisa in comparison.

>>17617653
I think that a meta explanation makes more sense here than trying to come up with an in-universe reasoning. I mean, if I were to be honest, I personally think that all youkai have some limited degree of shapeshifting capabilities, but I wouldn't use art from the manga to support this claim. I don't think it matters if you like winged Aya or wolf eared Momiji, just don't pretend that your interpretation is any more valid because one of the pieces of manga art agrees with you, especially when that art contradicts other sources without making some sort of assumption.

>> No.17617680

Why is OP right but other artists "wrong" if they're both official works? Trying to sift through interpretations of every character like this is going to just give you a headache. Same shit with the autistic Aya wings argument

>> No.17617722

>>17617573
IIRC it's not that Aki Eda got the weapons wrong, but that ZUN never gave her an outline of what they should be like so she was left to make something up. Specifically the moon rabbits' bayonets and Toyohime's fan, I believe.

>> No.17617757

>>17617680
All official canon stems from ZUN, originally, and discussions of this nature are about what ZUN intended for the character conceptually.
Or at least they should be.

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>>17617426
Nope, she don't has, half awoo girl.

>> No.17617843

She is already bland but removing the ears and tail she ends up looking even more generic.

>> No.17618124

>>17617843
I actually think she looks cuter without them. Kemomimi girls are old hat

>> No.17618184

youkai can shapeshift blurgh urgh im so tired of this topic

>> No.17618207

>>17618184
Not all of them, but Tengu in particular are commonly described changing their forms.

Of course, this won't stop us from arguing whether ZUN's Tengu have retained this property, but it is good to know it for when we run out of arguments.

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>SoPM

>> No.17618347
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>This thread

It's not like Touhou canon is consistent. This is like when people start bitching around about Aya having wings or not on Aya threads.

As >>17617573 said, Tengu are shapeshifters. You can like her with wolf ears or without wolf ears, it's not that big of a deal after all.

>> No.17618352

>>17618347

>17617573
Missclick, it was >>17617555

>> No.17620334

>>17617573
>ZUN is a busy guy
What is he busy with? Brewing beer or trying to stay sober?

>> No.17620373

>>17617769
Holy heck she's cute as fuck.

>> No.17621223

>>17617444
On top of her head

>> No.17621303

>>17618347
You are an idiot.

>> No.17621532

>>17621303
Strong argument we got here.

>> No.17621677

>>17620334
Now I really want to know how long it takes ZUN to make one game.

>> No.17621707

>>17621532
Oh, I'm sorry, and the "haha Touhou has no canon everyone but me is stupid" is a real argument? It reeks of someone who doesn't have anything relevant to add to the discussion.

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>>17621707
Every hentai of Touhou is canon.
You can't deny the deep lore behind the boobs.

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>>17621707
While >>17618347 is an idiot for saying "canon" instead of "canonical art/depictions," it is a valid point. Characters have been drawn in different ways by different artists, and this is has been a part of the inconsistency within the series since ZUN first outsourced art.

It also really is stupid to argue about the varying appearances of characters whose racial traits include shape-shifting. Forbidden Scrollery, which is... er, was one of the more tightly controlled Touhou print works, even showcased Aya changing her outward appearance under consistently changing circumstances. Wings when in "Tengu uniform," no wings when snooping among humans. It makes sense she'd want to avoid drawing attention in the latter case - ergo, the wings have to go.

Now, if we were talking about Sekibanki's absence or presence of a neck... There is a more befuddling case.

>> No.17624661

>>17622509

>saying "canon" instead of "canonical art/depictions,"

It doesn't fucking matter. It's obvious what he's getting at.

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>>17624688

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>>17624691

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>>17624696

>> No.17624817

Fuck canon. Momiji needs wolf ears and a tail to stand out at all.

>> No.17625269
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Touhou's canon is whatever you want it to be.

>> No.17625339

>>17625269
black tewi is fundamentally about things that aren't canon

>> No.17625486

>>17625269
This tewi makes me tingly

>> No.17626936

>>17624817
She looks nice with them, but she also looks pretty cute without them, look at >>17617769

>> No.17633737 [DELETED] 

>>17617426
Even Link had to go on a special quest to fully unlock the Master Sword a few times...and that tragedy with Amaterasu...and that Swedish Scandanavian with the speech impediment named after a locomotive...and those freak weather cells...so what I'm saying is something is afoot.

>> No.17633743 [DELETED] 

>>17622457
Wario is actually a Mario that used invincibility Star hax to survive the minus world.

>> No.17633802

>>17633743
The problem with the minus world is that it goes on forever and you eventually die because the time runs out, an invincibility star is useless in that case.

>> No.17633812

>>17633743
Wario is Mario after he was turned into a youkai and thrown back in time. He hates Mario because he reminds him of the humanity that he lost.

>> No.17633824

>>17624817
She already has an incredibly unique design among the 2hus, and is the only one who uses a sword and shield. Wolf ears would only serve to make people mistakenly believe that she's a beast youkai.

>> No.17633982

If we're on the subject of designs, is Reimu's hair black or brown?
Brown in the light, black in the dark? Because it seems to change between either whenever ZUN feels like it.

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I'm just gonna take the time to say that Momiji's power of telegnosis is described as allowing her to see "a thousand ri" ahead. Since a ri is 2.44 miles, this means Momiji can see up to 2,440 miles ahead of her. This in turn means that if she were on the outside, she could actually see through the windows on the ISS, as well as clearly see any satellite orbiting up to the first thousand miles or so of medium earth orbit!

>> No.17636894

>>17633824
White-haired sword girl with detached sleeves. Yeah, incredibly unique.

>> No.17636947

>>17636734
That sounds pretty awesome.

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