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Aiko is a 32-kilogram female android that Trung began building in August of last year.

"When I was a kid, we watched a lot of anime robots," the 33-year-old told CTV.ca in a phone interview from his parents' home in Brampton, Ont.

Aiko can also distinguish between types of touch to her body and can even make toast.

"Does she have breasts? I will say yes. Does she have nipples? I will say yes. Does she have a vagina? I will say yes. Are there sensors there? I will say yes," he said.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081211/project_aiko_081211/20081211?hub=Canada

>> No.1752039

32kg? that cannot be stable.

>> No.1752046

Ganbatte, OP!

>> No.1752056
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1752056

Call me when they look like this.

>> No.1752057

Do want. This almost inspires me to try to get a job.

>> No.1752059

Does she love me?

;_;

>> No.1752061

How is this related to Japan

>> No.1752062

>>1752056
This.

>> No.1752075

>>1752061
He watched anime.

>> No.1752079

>>1752061
Japanese-looking robots from Canada are always related..

>> No.1752083

>>1752056
A 2D robot would be useless.

>> No.1752091

The question is... where is the reset button?

>> No.1752107

This man is one of us.

>> No.1752113

By the time robotomeidos become affordable we will already have eroge using neural interfaces to let us experience the glorious world of 2D first-hand.

>> No.1752114

>>1752061
She can speak Japanese.

Honestly, I thought her Japanese voice was much cuter than her english one.

>> No.1752118

This is so fucking wrong.
I wanted my angelic layer game invented first!

>> No.1752120

>>1752059
As Chobits points out, it doesn't matter if she "really" loves you or not, what matters is whether you believe she does. After all, we can't prove that even real females are capable of loving.

>> No.1752125
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>>1752030
>Aiko is a 32-kilogram female android
I think she's heavier. MUCH heavier.

>> No.1752132

>>1752120
DEEP

>> No.1752135

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFZVwQ53bk

I was actually there.

>> No.1752136

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2023392.ece
watch the video

Guy: Who is your creator?

Eiko: My master and creator is Le Trung. Cha cha. Cha cha CHA!

Guy: STOP IT EIKO!

>> No.1752142

>>1752125
Well played anon.

>> No.1752146
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1752146

Tell me when they look like this.

>> No.1752148

>his parents' home

oh god damn it

>> No.1752151

>>1752061
I believe the body itself is from Japan.

http://www.orient-doll.com/top.html

>> No.1752157

That thing is creepy.

>> No.1752164

>>1752118
THIS THIS THIS THIS
I'd fucking kill to play Angelic Layer. FUCK YES.

>> No.1752169

After watching that video, I want to be as far away from that thing as possible. Am I the only one who is kinda freaked out by it?

>> No.1752177

Soon, anon. Soon.

I'm excited.

>> No.1752171

Remember those erotic songs by Miku? "Vocaloid can't get pregnant" or some shit like that.

Yeah.

>> No.1752180

We're still on the downslope of the uncanny valley. Do not want.

>> No.1752184

>>1752135
Why do those people want to touch that thing when they know the inventor has put his cock in it?

>> No.1752193

This is what the future should be, we don't need real women.

>> No.1752194

Make her smaller and her voice cuter. Then I'd fuck it without worrying about the uncanny valley.

>> No.1752199

>>1752184
This is what Kannagi fans believe.

>> No.1752215

>>1752184
why are people attracted to porn stars that have had countless cocks in them?

>> No.1752231

>>1752215
There is a difference between wanting to fuck a non-virgin chick and wanting to fuck a used fleshlight.

>> No.1752236

The whole "uncanny valley" thing is for normalfags.

But anyway...oh God, I have such a mix of emotions right now. This really makes me happy.

When does anon think we'll be able to have our own robot waifu's?

>> No.1752243

>>1752236
I spend half my time here in /d/ and I still get the creeps from watching that video.

>> No.1752252

Is she Turing complete?

>> No.1752253

>>1752236

10 years from now, they will be high advanced but expensive

15-20 years from now, they will be cheap and mass produced.

>> No.1752258

>>1752253
They said that about space travel in the early seventies.

>> No.1752264

>>1752136
>I am not your personal slave

Useless robot.

>> No.1752267

>>1752252
I'll give her some anal touring, if you know what I mean.

>> No.1752269

the ultimate test.. can you handel it?..
try here: www.mschristi.piczo.com

>> No.1752276

>>1752253

Considering RealDolls and Candy Girls are still going for approx 10 grand a piece, I seriously doubt we'll see cheap personal robot maids on the market. Unless you like buying used.

>> No.1752296
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1752296

アイコ is the name of a Japanese princess who is still a loli.

>> No.1752305

>>1752231
keep telling yourself that

>> No.1752324

>>1752305
Enjoy your virginity. Alone.

>> No.1752332

>His first robot could move around, shoot "bullets" and had a two-sentence vocabulary, Trung said.
Reading the article, this guy seems to be something of a robotics genius. All we need is somebody who can program a believable AI.

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For some reason Realdolls creep me the fuck out, but the Candy Girls are awwwright.

I'm weeaboo even when it comes to robots? Though the problem with the Realdolls (and American porn in general) is that the girls look like disgusting fake tanned plastic surgery sluts.

Even if somebody's a cheap slut, it'd be nice if they didn't LOOK like a cheap slut.

>> No.1752344

>>1752030
I for one welcome this real-world Dr. Light.

>> No.1752346
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>>1752113

And it will be exactly like this. And we will fail just as hard there as we do here.

>> No.1752348

>>1752338
>Though the problem with the Realdolls (and American porn in general) is that the girls look like disgusting fake tanned plastic surgery sluts.

This.

I have never found Realdolls to be attractive. You should really see how some of the owners style/dress theirs up...my God...

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>>1752338
They all have this, "I just guzzled 5 gallons of cum" idiot look on their face, with 500 layers of shitty glitter makeup. I don't know who the fuck finds this shit attractive.

>> No.1752356

>>1752346
Did the art in this (mostly the faces) bother you just as much as it did me?

>> No.1752376

>>1752351
Face 9 is tolerable

>> No.1752393
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>>1752332
He's developed his own software for her as well. He's actually an out of work programmer. The thing about a trained AI is that it becomes better the more you train it. If his system were open source, then it could be modified so that anyone could run a part of it on their own machines to contribute processing power to Aiko's digestion of information, kind of like SETI. This information could include anything from project Gutenberg to data collected from her sensors to 4chon. Combine that with a fairly powerful machine connected wirelessly to her body to actually run the end result in real time and Aiko could be made into a very convincing paper girl. She'd probably have the mind of a child for 20 years, though.

>> No.1752407

>>1752351

All look like generic porn star.

>> No.1752411

>>1752393
She'd be a Wikipedia you could have sex with.

>> No.1752442

>>1752351
They all don't look quite human. They're frightening...

>> No.1752447
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1752447

4woods is best

>> No.1752451

>>1752393
Just like the manga in >>1752346

>> No.1752461

>>1752451
Which, I take it, is called 'Ressentiment'?

>> No.1752487

>>1752411
Sex would actually be a fairly easy function to train, especially compared with speech and language acquisition.

>> No.1752497

>>1752346
Save states

>> No.1752498

>>1752461
Yes

>> No.1752535

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBtZk13miAE

At first I was like meh, but then I discovered the whole android was created by one man. Are Asians better at math or something?

>> No.1752541

Right now these things seem rather horrifying to look at, but In 10 years time they will be much more refined. Just a little longer, and you'll have something even better.

I can't wait.

>> No.1752548

>>1752541
Fuck that, in a decade or two they're probably going to be able to make me into a little girl. The moralfags will be all against it, but that's fine, I'll just sign up for the early testing stages, before the moralfags will have heard about it.

>> No.1752562

>>1752541
>Right now these things seem rather horrifying to look at, but In 10 years time they will be much more refined.
Not really. This android just has a really ugly design. I've seen androids in Japan that look 100% identical to humans.

The only thing good about this android is the AI.

>> No.1752581

>>1752562
I'm sure if he was able to get corporate funding he could make it look quite nice.

>> No.1752595

>>1752562
>I've seen androids in Japan that look 100% identical to humans.

Pictures, please.

>> No.1752596

>>1752562
>I've seen androids in Japan that look 100% identical to humans.

They still suffer from Uncanny Valley, which is going to be very hard to iron out.

If he can get a company interested in the AI though, then that could speed up the development. And as >>1752581 said, I bet these companies would be more than willing to upgrade the looks.

>> No.1752604

>>1752595
Actroid from 2006.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFFs4DHWys

>> No.1752609

>>1752338
>>1752351


I agree, while I've never found the RealDoll to be attractive, I'd spring for a Candy Girl if I had the money.

>> No.1752647

>>1752604
HOLY SHIT THAT THING IS EVEN CREEPIER

>> No.1752658

>>1752596
Uncanny valley is hugely exaggerated. It's mostly normalfags seeing it because they expect to see it.

>> No.1752679

>>1752658
>>1752604
That's what you may say right after you start thinking about the initial reaction of "HOLY FUCK ITS HIDEOUS."

But really, look at that vid. Even without the awkward movements, look at it's eyes/lips/rest of face.

You can't distinguish from that and human? Don't say no, because I know you can.

>> No.1752686

>>1752658
Uncanny valley or not, those things repulse me very, very strongly.

>> No.1752692

>>1752393
>She'd probably have the mind of a child for 20 years, though.
just as keikaku

>>1752658
you forget that people here already fap to shit normal people would find revulsive

>> No.1752697

>>1752679
Uncanny Valley is being repulsed by something the closer it gets to looking human.
I don't think it's human, but I'm not repulsed. It's basically a life-size figurine made from a realistic art style.

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>>1752609

Whoops, I forgot the image.

>> No.1752720

>>1752393 The thing about a trained AI is that it becomes better the more you train it.

This is actually not necessarily true. At least with neural networks, it is possible to "over-train" them. I'm not too clear on the details, but my impression is that they start seeing patterns that aren't there.

Probably not a problem if you want a delusional, possibly paranoid robot waifu, I guess.

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1752735

>>1752344 I for one welcome this real-world Dr. Light.
I for one am personally hoping for a real-world Dr. Wily, if you know what I mean.

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>>1752735

>> No.1752749

>>1752296 アイコ is the name of a Japanese princess who is still a child.
Fixed, you fucking pedo moron.

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>>1752720
You can over train neural networks on a limited example set so that they specialize too narrowly and are unable to cope with scenarios that vary too widely from their training set. This AI will never stop learning and has an effectively limitless range of data to analyze, so that particular problem shouldn't arise. Also, this is not a neural network, it's someone's home coded homunculus that can be tweaked and specially trained ad infinitum by a dedicated expert. Also, lol Intro to Intelligent Systems.

>> No.1752754

>>1752737
Your point? People are only interested in Splash Woman for DAT ASS.

>> No.1752761

>>1752697
This. Why would you want a human anyway? My robot waifu will be better than human.

>> No.1752765

It would be awesome to have a robot around the house.

>> No.1752781
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>>1752761
Seriously, what kind of sick person would want a robot waifu in a rubber human suit? There are so many other cute and sexy possibilities!

>> No.1752787
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1752787

>>1752781

Not rubber. Coated in synthetic living tissue.

>> No.1752795

>>1752787
That just means that your waifu can get acne and skin cancer.

>> No.1752811

>>1752752
AAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH SO FUCKING CREEPY
Why do I find this 5,000 times creepier than Aiko? It's clearly less humanoid but FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. It's creepy saggy fucking white sallow skin and freakishly realistic eyeballs ajofijdsf

>> No.1752812

>>1752765
Until it becomes self-conscious and murders you.

>> No.1752822
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>>1752765

I want a useless robot around the house.

>> No.1752825

These androids aren't all that creepy because they don't act human.
Imagine if it actually acted really close to a human- but just a little "off".
It'd be like talking to someone with a mental disorder. You'd feel unsettled, like you didn't really know what to expect from them.

So just like talking to a normal person for the "hikikomoris" here. In all seriousness though, imagine talking to someone who was pretty much human, but their skin was a little too clean, and they stared into your eyes a little too intently, and smiled inappropriately sometimes. It'd get kind of creepy pretty fast.

>> No.1752829

>>1752825
>but just a little "off".

uncanny valley

>> No.1752832

>>1752825
Yandere robot waifu?

>> No.1752839

I'm going to make a hatsune miku figure into a miniature robot. Her voice is already complete so I wont have to hire a whore to speak in a microphone.

I will write her logic in prolog and use minimax and alpha pruning algorithms for motion and a feed forward network for thought and speech

>> No.1752845

>>1752839
>hire a whore

Aww, but Aya was already lined up for the job.

>> No.1752848

>>1752825
Are you trying to say I'm not a hikikomoori? I haven't left my house in at least 2 week,s faggot. I'd like to see you try and live the hikookimori lifestyle for 1 day!

>> No.1752861

>>1752848
You're not a hikikomori, you're a faggot.

>> No.1752867

>>1752861
NORMALFAG

>> No.1752872

>>1752839
Don't you mean feedback? A feed forward driven thought simulator would break very easily. It could only ever talk to one person effectively, and then only after extreme tuning.

>> No.1752880

>>1752861
lol i trol u

>> No.1752883

>>1752825
I wouldn't know the difference. I watched Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within about 6 times and didn't see any uncanny valley, and many people say it's one of the most uncanny of all.

I strongly suspect I actually cause "uncanny valley" perception in normalfags myself, as I've had many people call me "scary" without being able to explain why.

>> No.1752896

>>1752883
You're probably doing something socially retarded without knowing it. Maintaining eye contact for too long, stuttering, ignorance of personal space and comfort zones, etc.

>> No.1752915

>>1752883
>I watched Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within about 6 times and didn't see any uncanny valley, and many people say it's one of the most uncanny of all.

Are you serious? They don't know what uncanny valley even fucking means, then.

Maybe I have low tolerance because I like animu figurines or something...but honestly I don't feel any difference between Aiko and a normal figurine. I'm actually more creeped out by BJDs, which are much less human looking, than I am by Aiko.

The difference is I think Aiko is aesthetically pleasing, whereas BJDs are bugeyed shits. I'm creeped out by Realdolls because they're ugly AND humanoid, so they look like dead plastic whores.

I think this all might have more to do with attractiveness than Uncanny Valley humanoid realism.

>> No.1752924

>>1752896
Obviously. Probably most people here have broken social skills, which means uncanny valley doesn't apply to us.

>> No.1752946

>>1752883
Bro, I think you caught the burgers.

>> No.1752950

I hate to break it to you, /jp/, but as soon as these things become advanced enough that you could introduce her to friends without them knowing she's a robot, 'robot rights' groups would start popping up demanding equal rights for these things. They would pass laws against behavior inhibitors that make them completely loyal to their masters (BAWWW SLAVERY).

Hope you enjoy dropping $200,000 on the first line of realistic ones 15 years from now, only to find that it acts just like an actual woman and has no obligation or even inclination to like you at all, and leaves you for the same type of guy who gets real women.

My catgirl android waifu will never be a reality.

>> No.1752958

>>1752950
Its a good thing I'm a programmer

I'll override her virtual methods if you know what I mean

>> No.1752963

>>1752950
Either you'll go to jail for "raping" a robot, or your robot will get vandalized/burned by crazy ass fundamentalist religion freaks.

>> No.1752966

>>1752963

My robot will be flame resistant and have hidden machine guns and won't have those pesky three laws, either.

>> No.1753030

>>1752839

Miku can't talk, she can only... warble.

>> No.1753052

>>1752950

The depressing thing is, you're absolutely right. They started cracking down on anything remotely fun that was illegal in the real world (Despite the fact that it DIDN'T EXIST). And that's pretty much why it died.

>> No.1753062

>>1753052

Talking about Second Life btw.

>> No.1753064

I don't feel that uncanny valley effect - or at least, not to the same level as many other people.

I wonder if video games had an effect on me. Many games have faces that could easily fall into that bizarre uncanny zone.

>> No.1753106

>>1752950
Worryingly plausible, but the uncanny valley meme works in our interests here. People won't give rights to something they consider creepy, and with the inertia of mass opinion people will insist robots are uncanny long after they are indistinguishable from humans.

>> No.1753117

>>1753064
You're a normal /jp/ poster.

>> No.1753143

NO AIKO

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>>1752950
HAHAHahaha...

15 years and $200,000...

If only.

>> No.1753180

WHY COULDN'T IT BE AOKO

>> No.1753183

>>1753174
If this lunatic fashions a working AI that can be copied, re-taught, data-mined for interesting features and synthesized automatically for use i more sophisticated bodies, then only the only barrier becomes manufacturing techniques to make bodies more affordable.

>> No.1753189

>>1752030
Hey, at least it's TRYING to look good, with the face. Do you remember the other one that was posted a while ago? It looked like a down syndrome midget that got it's face kicked in by a horse at a young age.

>> No.1753203

If they can't yet make credible AI with dynamic, believable animation algorithms yet in 2D, imagine how long it'll take before we have the mechancis to render them in 3D.

We'll be lucky if we can ever witness that first part in our lifetimes.

>> No.1753217

>>1753203
They can, just no one is willing to put forth the money to sponser it.

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>>1753217
The inventor of Aiko spent over 23K USD by maxing out 3 credit cards, and basically all of his time during 3 months of unemployment, just to make her. If this man were funded properly, it would happen in our lifetimes.

>> No.1753235

>>1753228

You'd think the Japs would be on planes to Canada with huge suitcases full of yen right about now.

>> No.1753267

>>1753235
If Aiko became common knowledge on 2ch, then everyone in Japan would basically know about her.

>> No.1753273
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1753273

I'm very tempted to major in robotics.

>> No.1753321

>>1753217

Real, life-like, human AI?

A software that you can actually have a human conversation with? A character that can freely navigate a complex environment and quickly and believably interact with it correctly in completely fluid and ever-changing motion patterns? Voice synthesis that sounds real? Believable emotion and reaction to the slightest things that are virtually indesipherable from that of a human?

Decades away. Many Decades. I hope.

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1754022

I'll be able to meet master from across the screen soon!
Hooray!

>> No.1754038

YOU LOOKED, JUNKER!!

>> No.1754048

>>1753052

Second Life blows. I can barely wait for it to die.

>> No.1754057

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuxKW67oHj8#t=2m

>> No.1754068

Come back when they make them look like little girls.

>> No.1754069

>>1753321

Good AI will probably come long before perfectly humanlike AI. I fully expect that the first artificially intelligent robots will be more like Tachikomas than androids, because people are far more willing to tolerate "non-humanness" in something that isn't trying to look human.

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>>1752950

MEOWTIS!

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>>1754075

>> No.1754103

>>1754075
>Think for yourself

Think for yourself. Question authority. Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in
this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness; chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.

>> No.1754498

>>1752030
lol at the last part might as well say can u fuck it?

>> No.1754993

>>1753321
>Decades away. Many Decades. I hope.

You don't belong here.

>> No.1755025

>>1752822
damn, forgot where this was from
Could anyone remind me?

>> No.1755028

>>1755025
Gadget Trial.

>> No.1755065

>>1755028
Thanks alot, man.

>> No.1755228

>>1752447
Pretty good...and sounds suspiciously like a 4chan product.

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>>1752811
>An android robot, made more human-like by its silicone skin, is shown at a fair in Tokyo, Japan. It is fitted with a supply of compressed air so that it appears to breathe.

>> No.1755326

>>1755313
I'm still getting hit at full force with uncanny valley. I'll admit, it's very good, but once you have someone standing next to it, you can tell a mile off.

>>1752752
Seems more 'alive' to me.

>> No.1755339

>>1752548
The fact that you will never be the little girl or a girl at all makes me happy.

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