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Visual Novel translation status


>Aiyoku No Eustia - 18.55% Translated, 12.66% edited
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "2181/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (94.5%)"
>Clover Day's - 100% translated, editing + TLC still to go
Daitoshokan - 100% translated and edited, images, engine work and QC remain
Gakuen Heaven 2 - Demo released
Heart no Kuni no Alice - 91% translated, 4rd partial patch released
Hemoimo - Trial text translated
Junketsu Megami-Sama - partial patch released
>Kanojo to Ore to Koibito to - 6% (1785/28887) lines translated
Koiken Otome Revive - 8% (2217/27095) lines translated
>Lovely x Cation - Being restarted from 12,000/26,959 lines translated
>Lover Able - 83.4% translated
Maji Koi A-3 - Starting up
Majo Koi Nikki - 92% (37080/40208) lines translated, prologue patch released
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3 semi-active projects, one project released ch 1-7
Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts through TLC+Editing, 207/268 scripts finalized
>Pure Pure - 21,48% translated
>Sansha Mendan - 100% translated, editing and some technical work remain
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 108542/257436 (42.2%) characters translated
Shin Koihime Musou - Partial patch with first chapter of Shoku's route
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 13,183 / 30,513 Lines (43.2%) translated, 1 route translated, partial patch released
>Tsui Yuri - 66% (3867/5872) QC
>Tsujidou-san no Jun'ai Road - 32.8% translated, common route patch released
>Tsuriotsu - 3107/31643 (9.8%) lines translated, 1856/31643 (5.9%) lines edited
Ushinawareta Mirai o Motomete - 34% (11889/35476) lines translated
Venus Blood Chimera - 50,3% (18558 / 36862 Lines) translated, partial patch released
>Witch's Garden - 29% (15339/53677) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited



Official work

MangaGamer
Marina’s Cuckolding Report - August 11th release
Kuroinu - Chapter 1 Released, Chapter 2 finished Beta
Higurashi Hou - chapter 5 released. chapters 6-8 through TLC+Editing
Umineko - Released chapters 1-4
Bokuten - Port in progress
SukiSuki - In Beta
Imouto Paradise 2 - 100% translated and edited, in scripting
Fata morgana fan disc - 72% translated, 44% edited
Sorcery Jokers - 100% translated, 87% edited
Maggot Baits - 45% translated
Hapymaher - 87% translated, 78% edited
Bocchi Musume x Produce Keikaku - Summer release, finished Beta
Hadaka Shitsuji - In testing
Hadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked up
Shiei no Sona-Nyl - Picked up
Hashihime - 84% translated, 14% edited
Trinoline - 28% translated, 3% edited, 2017 release
Kyonyuu Fantasy Gaiden - 100% translated, 62% edited
Evenicle - 96% translated, 53% edited
Magical Marriage Lunatics - 75% translated, 72% edited
Damekoi - 100% translated and edited, in scripting
Space Live - Through testing, applying fixes
Koropokkur - In development
Secret Project 1 - 100% translated and edited
Overdrive's Final title - English release planned
>6 announcements listed for Otakon, 1 from a new partner


JAST
Eiyuu*Senki - In preorder, Summer release
>Princess X - Fall release, in Beta
Princess X fandisc - Picked up
>Flowers - Volume 2 Winter release, 60% translated
Katahane - Fully translated, in editing + QC, Early 2018 release
Majikoi - 2018 release
Trample on Schatten- Translation 100%, in editing
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, 70% edited
Machine Child - Announced

>> No.17431712

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
Ley-Line: The Borderline of Dusk - In QA, fixing Engine issues Summer release
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 75% translated
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - Picked up, Kickstarter finished, Winter 2018 release
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
SakuSaku - Engine/QA work ongoing, Fall release
Grisaia no Rakuen - Roughly 1/3rd of the new work on the R18 version is finished
Hoshizora no Memoria - 100% translated, Kickstarter finished, Fall 2017 release
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - Kickstarter finished
KaraKara 2 - 100% translated, late 2017 release
Miko no Kanata - 2017 release
Nanairo Reincarnation - Early 2018 release
Baldr Sky - Combined release of Dive 1 + Dive 2 in mid 2018
The Bell Chimes For Gold - 62% translated
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
2236 A.D. - 100% translated, Engine/QA work ongoing
Maitetsu - In QA, Denpa version announced
Nenokami - Part 2 2017 release
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
Tenshin Ranman - 99.01% translated, Denpa version announced
Koikuma - 74.19% translated, 2017 release
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released, Q4 release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
>Fatal Twelve - demo released, voiced demo being added shortly
Her and Her and My 7 Days - 70% translated
Girls in Glasses - Picked up
CyberRebeat - Picked up
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Re;Lord ~Herford no Majo to Nuigurumi~ - 100% translated
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - Picked up
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Dracu-Riot - Picked up
Senren * Banka - Picked up
Ninja Girl - Announced
Island Diary - Announced


Frontwing
>Subahibi - Late August release, Kickstarter Ongoing
>Sharin no Kuni - December release
Island - 100% translated, 40-50% edited, 2018 release
Momoiro Closet - 2018 release
2 upcoming secret announcements


Visual Arts
Little Busters - Late August release
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
>Muv Luv Alternative - Targeting a Summer release
Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Translation started
Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - To follow Photonflowers
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Bad Apple Wars - 9/29 release
Code: Realize fandisc - 2018 release
7'scarlet - 2018 release
Kokuchou no Psychedelica - 2018 release
Haitaka no Psychedelica - 2018 release


Fruitbat
>SeaBed - December 26th release
Seven Days - Late 2017 release
Chuusotsu! 1st graduation - Kickstarter finished, demo released, late 2017 release


Other
Dies irae - Released, uncut patch upcoming
Tayutama 2 - Summer release
Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro - Sept 5th release
Danganronpa V3 - 9/26 release
Chaos;Child - September release
Magical Charming - Fall release planned
Song of Memories - Fall release planned
428: Shibuya Scramble - 2018 release
>Sakura Sakura - Prefundia up, Kickstarter starting August 15th, Kickstarter will include a 4 month estimate until release
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
Harumade, Kururu - Seems to have an English release planned
Moenovel is working on another new title
Monmusu - Announced
Taisho Alice - Volume 1 released
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.17431947

That all?

>> No.17431949

>Muv Luv Alternative - Targeting a Summer release
Android version never.

>> No.17432114
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>>17430690
Are you a shill or an employee? The release contains wrong TL, bad grammar (which, by the way, is one of the errors shown on the screenshot you are replying to and calling it "punctuation"), typos, missing/extra commas, and wrong honorifics (this I especially don't understand. There are literally fucking rules for honorific usage in this school. Don't put them where they don't belong.)
I am not saying the whole release is bad, just that this is fan TL level. Though, obviously, there are many fan TLs which are better than this, considering every route I've read has all the mistakes listed above.
Also, I didn't post the Marika route screenshot. I'm still on Konomi route.

>> No.17432152

What's the difference between editing and TLC?

>> No.17432169

>>17432152
Editing is for fixing and ironing the script, TLC is for checking it.

>> No.17432222

Something that I'm curious about, is the Wagamama release the exact same as in Japan or is it a reduced mosaic like minori's releases? Kinda funny if it was the latter and no one cares, but when minori does it, it's bloody murder.

>> No.17432251

>>17432222
I actually downloaded the Japanese release for the nude patch. I didn't notice any difference in the HCGs when I skimmed through Mihiro's route.

>> No.17432360

>>17432169
>>17432152
TLC makes sure the translated text is accurate, editing makes sure the translated text reads well.

>> No.17432511

>>17432114
If you're going to be dramatizing this much because of such minor stuff which happen in pretty much all localizations, I'm sure you always have a blast when reading VNs. Please, by all means continue.

If one day you're able to read VNs in japanese, you're going to be in for a surprise

>> No.17432516

>>17432511
Even if it happens in all localizations, it doesn't make it acceptable

>> No.17432645

>>17432511
Nice surprise box. I'm not going to hold back just because you think only SP is supposed to be shittalked here. I will criticize a bad translation, be it fan TL or an official release. They are asking money for this translation. I am pointing out clear undisputable mistakes, which can make others decide whether it's worth the $35. That's all. It has nothing to do with my enjoyment of the VN.

>> No.17432659

>>17431947
What were you expecting? At this point MG will most likely update the weekend of Otakon or the week after.

>> No.17432676

>>17432645
Not that guy, honestly I think you should shittalk more, just that if you add the original JP to compare would add weigh to it too. Also, send them an email with the entire list is even better, or else they might think that it's all right.

>> No.17432707

Eat shit, Doddler. You don't get to complain that the company you're helping prop up sucks.

>> No.17432747

JAST will axe any attempt to translate Majikoi a-3

its never going to happen

>> No.17432749
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>> No.17432831

Haro, any hope you post another tip or two for the announcements before the con?
Can we expect more bl/otome/yuri?

>> No.17432992

>>17432831
Is there anything from the current hints?

Dominant with nan italicized.

Saying they have a number of titles for romance, science fiction, and fantasy.

Mentions of rocket science and rocketing up the list.

More entries in popular series. Funbag Fantasy Gaiden was already announced, but that still leaves room for at least one more.

A title with a bit of a historical bent. Most likely something historical with the characters made female. Sengoku Rance or a Baseson title are possible.

Something old. Damekoi was already announced.

Something new. Space Live was already announced.

Something borrowed. Is ambiguous. Could mean Marina or where they borrowed Itaru from Key. Could be something now announced yet.

Something BLue… Most likely a BL title. Someone mentioned a possible hint that came from a staff member after Hashihime was announced, so there could be another BL title this year. My bet is Room No. 9.

The marriage hint was already fulfilled by both Magical Marriage Lunatics and Sweet Young Bride.

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17432998

Top 5 Ranking: https://pastebin.com/Nt30FBpj
Popularity Sort: https://pastebin.com/LkBVx4ZV
Full Data Point List: https://pastebin.com/Z7skQ7hV

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

>> No.17433079

>>17432992
nan is obviously about Evenicle and how Yaegashi Nan drew for it.

>> No.17433085

>>17432992
Umineko fits the more entries in a popular series.

>> No.17433095

>>17432114
>which, by the way, is one of the errors shown on the screenshot you are replying to and calling it "punctuation"

Okay, then either you're wrong or it's such a small grammar mistake that only you can recognize it, oh amazing nitpicker.

>> No.17433098

Room No. 9
Supipara chapter 2
Rance title
A Kiss for the Petals title
A moege or story vn.
New partner will be Softhouse Chara with their recent title Planet Dragon. That could be what the rocket hint meant.

>> No.17433535

>>17433095
Not only is your brain impaired, but your vision is shit as well. That, or you went on this retarded whiteknighting quest without even looking at what has been posted. The two mistakes are marked in the screenshot.
>Save for Rise-san and I
If you take Rise out of the sentence, it reads "Save for I"
Pronoun linking is basic grammar.
No need to reply anymore. You can stop embarassing yourself.

>> No.17433581

>>17433535
You do know how fucking autistic you look now, right? Can you not see this? You're approaching the level of the Yuuki guy. Do you not realize that less than 5% of readers will actually realize that's a problem, and even less will even remember it a scene later? Or are you too busy congratulating yourself for catching something so small nobody else will ever notice it?

>> No.17433621

>>17433581
>having standards is autistic
Not him btw

>> No.17433635

>>17433581
Complaining about mistakes in a "professional" release is perfectly fine and in no way autistic. Also not him btw

>> No.17433645

>>17433635
Complaining about mistakes in any release is perfectly fine. Fan TLs should not be spared of criticism just because they are free.

>> No.17433655

>>17433645
Very true. Merely added the quotes to take a jab at MG.

>> No.17433700

>>17433581
>You're approaching the level of the Yuuki guy
Just you wait. After SukiSuki's name fixing patch is out, I will read it and document every single error in that game. It will be reposted all over the internet.

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>>17433621
>>17433635
>Not him btw
>Also not him btw

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>>17433734
Is true, though.

I mean, I read and enjoyed the fandisc regardless, but I still don't think even pedantic criticism is invalid. I, too, noticed more than a few grammatical mistakes which were a bit glaring. As well as a few lines which didn't seem to make sense in context, which could be anything from a mistranslation to a problem with the original script that was translated directly. Who knows? Nothing that would ruin a read, but it can kind of take you out of it.

>> No.17433783
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17433783

Is Jamal here bullshitting or what? No patch for DI until September?

>> No.17433790

>>17433783
See you in September.

>> No.17433792

>>17433700
If you want to be fair then you should pick at the same time the most recent VN released by SP, FW and others and compare them; misstraslations, grama and made up translations/memes.

>> No.17433804

>>17433773
I would just like to add that both the recent PE fandisc and DS seem to have had some pretty glaring issues in its QC (DS more so, since it wasn't limited to grammar/typos/etc.)

Obviously not every release can have the autistic amount of editing/QC/whatever that Gahkthun or Fata Morgana had, but it's still worth bringing up.

>> No.17433812

>>17433773
>I still don't think even pedantic criticism is invalid
I never says it was invalid. My only problem is with people rummaging through scripts to find any error, no matter how small, and use it to scream MACHINE TL NO QC WORSE THAN SEKAI whenever any translation, fan or otherwise, is released.

>> No.17433820

>>17433812
>MACHINE TL NO QC WORSE THAN SEKAI
I don't think anyone is saying that, though. Nothing in recent memory has been as bad as Chrono Cock was

>> No.17433853

Wagamama has a lot of issues too. Moege just don't get that editing love

>> No.17433865

>>17433820
Chrono Clock had issues with localization, which is a different issue entirely. WagaHigh was fine, TLwise. It had its share of issues, but it was better than PE FD for sure.
Hopeful they learned their lesson at least a little bit with localization.

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>>17433820
That's literally how I came into this argument.

>> No.17433875

>>17433865
>Chrono Clock had issues with localization, which is a different issue entirely
I said this, but I don't know how good were the parts which weren't affected by localization. I just couldn't bear to read it.

>> No.17433879

>>17433865
>WagaHigh was fine
Shit ton of typos aside, maybe. Seems like someone was comparing scripts and finding issues with it a few threads back, though.

I don't know Japanese so I can't comment :^)

>> No.17433899

>>17433879
>Shit ton of typos aside, maybe.
You are literally lying and I cannot understand for what purpose.

>> No.17433904

>>17433899
I'm not. Hell, /vn/ has posted more than a few dozen which I didn't even catch.

>> No.17433909

>>17433098
>A Kiss for the Petals title

sonohana kind of died into a collapsed legal rights battle(I'm a not a /u/tard so I don't know the exact specifics) so I doubt mangagamer's bringing anymore.

>> No.17433935

>>17433904
>Hell, /vn/ has posted more than a few dozen which I didn't even catch.
>/vn/

>> No.17433952

More Rance when?

>> No.17433964

>>17433952
Christmas. Hopefully this year's.

>> No.17433966

>>17433952

this friday

>> No.17433998

>>17433952
Lets hope never.

>> No.17434012

>>17433998
You have to be delusional to think that.

>> No.17434018

>>17433952
After Evolimit, Eustia, Bokuten and Sukisuki

>> No.17434027

>>17434018
>Eustia
That's for SP.

>> No.17434035

>>17434012
One can dream.

>> No.17434042

>>17433952
It would like to see some "good" NTR's from Alicesoft as Oyako Rankan or Heartful Maman.

>> No.17434167

>>17434042
They're barely NTR.

>> No.17434270

>>17434167
But still better than Please Bang... or Marina's... because in these the NTR is consensual and the MC isn't against it.

>> No.17434456

>>17433909
They had a deal with St. Michael's, who they licensed the 2 sole releases of. There's still the 18+ version of RHWM. The rest depends on if they can strike a deal with the other devs. Rinagisa could still be possible.

>> No.17434505

>>17432645
>you think only SP is supposed to be shittalked here
Why are you projecting yourself?

Anyway, I'm not saying the errors shouldn't be pointed out. It's just that people so far are over-dramatizing because of really minor stuff. There's no such thing as a perfect localization and we should have that in mind when reading VNs. Expecting otherwise will eventuallly affect your enjoyment of the game because you'll be hunting for mistakes. But of course, constructive feedback is always welcome.

>> No.17434554

>>17434270
How is that even NTR in that case.

>> No.17434586

>>17432645
>I'm not going to hold back just because you think only SP is supposed to be shittalked here.
People are just touchy because there's been someone shilling for SP by going around and shitting on every other company.

>> No.17434647

>>17434554
It's more like Netorase. But in the case of Please Bang My wife the husband was against it at first. She was cheating on him without his knowledge. As for Marina I wonder if it has an ending where the husband gets dumped for the college student.

>> No.17434658

Anyone got links for Mahou tsukui no Yoru TLs?

I've got an old partial translation and just want to update it/

>> No.17434678

>>17434647
>the husband was against it at first...
"He's extreme jealousy, but also incredible arousal, so he makes a request of his wife:
“I want to watch.”"

>Marina
"He decides that wants her to sleep with another man. Just once would be fine. At first, Marina refuses Kenji's request, but she finally caves in to his enthusiasm and agrees do it JUST ONCE."

I'm kinda disappointed with these half-ntr nukiges. I would like to see something more similar to Kademono thatn this.

>> No.17434746

>>17434678
>Kademono
Best nukige of all times hands down. We need more shit like this.

>> No.17434764

Why discussion about NTR get deleted?

>> No.17434776

>>17434764
Nothing was deleted, though?

>> No.17434792

>>17434776
Discussion about Alise Soft real NTR and PBMW and Marina being fake NTRs was deleted unless I am going mad and seeing things

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>>17434792
I still can see these comments.
Try with another browser.

>> No.17434871

>>17434844
T-thanks, dude. I started to think I made up the whole converstation. Damn you, janny.

>> No.17434926

>>17434678
Please, husband whores out his wife for amusement/pleasure/money, but then changes his mind later. But the wife is already a slut to the new dick. She would rather be fucked than go back to her husband. She is stolen from her husband in the end. That kind of NTR is top tier. Not the rape-into-submission bullshit.

>> No.17434940

>>17434926
>rape-into-submission
Best NTR.

>> No.17434986

>>17434926
>Not the rape-into-submission bullshit
But this is the best paro of any NTR nukige.

>> No.17435223

>>17434647
>As for Marina I wonder if it has an ending where the husband gets dumped for the college student.
iirc there are only good endings, the wife still loves her husband at the end

>> No.17435382

>>17435223
Well, obviously the canon ending is staying with husband, considering there are like 5 sequels to that shit. But seriously?

>> No.17435519

Subahibi managed to reach its initial $80k Kickstarter goal.

>> No.17435583

>>17435519
Looks like it has a pretty good chance of reaching both of the stretch goals as well

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hurray

>> No.17435666

sayoshi fuckin never

>> No.17435862

>>17434926
You might like https://vndb.org/v14556. One of the endings is like that.

>> No.17435897

>>17435382
the sequels are more in line with what you're looking for as far as I know

>> No.17436005

>>17432749
[x] Doubt

>> No.17436298

https://vndb.org/v20763

Someone needs to bring some anim over

>> No.17436303

>>17436298
I only read it because of that one doujin series that rearely gets updates anymore.
Good faps.

>> No.17436722

Reverse NTR would be interesting. I wonder what that would be like.

>> No.17436861

>>17435862
Yeah, I do love me some swapping in general.

>> No.17436930

>>17435862
>https://vndb.org/v14556
No thanks you, this type black dude & white slut /white dude & black slut of ntr is kinda disgusting.

>> No.17437282

>>17436930
The one couple is Japanese,not white. It's a Japanese couple and a black couple swapping.

>> No.17437312

>>17435897
Not from what I've read.

Second game has Marina loaned to a former porn star. The person feeling cucked is her college student lover and not her husband.

Third game has Marina loaned to her ex-boyfriend, because her husband wants to intensify the netorase. The ex-boyfriend still loves Marina, but purposely takes things too far so that the couple will end their netorase play, because he views it as harmful. In the end the couple agree to end the netorase play.

Then you have the 2 Gaiden games, which look like they take place before the first game, because of how young Marina looks in them.

>> No.17437363

>>17437282
Japanese = white

>> No.17437556

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ163833.html

is coming to Steam.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/686190/Killing_Time/

>> No.17437593

>>17437556
I'm more excited for this one; http://store.steampowered.com/app/686180/Cat_Girl/
(with h-patch, of course.)

>> No.17437622

>>17437556
>>17437593
Why not just machine translate them yourself and save time?

>> No.17437782

Reminder, Moogy sucks Dovac's dick.
https://curiouscat.me/Moogy/post/166520373

>> No.17437836

>>17437782
I'm afraid I really don't care what the obese manchild still living with his mother does.

>> No.17437925

>>17437836
I can't tell if you're referring to Dovac or Moogy.

>> No.17437955

>>17437925
He is in fact referring to us.

>> No.17438029

>>17437955
To me, actually.

>> No.17438169

>>17437593
>>17437556
Stuff like this makes me worried that one day Valve will get tired of the practically pure porn being sold more and more often on their platform and crack down on sexually explicit content in Steam games. Yes, it's kind of funny seeing nukige on Steam, but I don't want games like Gahkthun to be rejected in the future because some companies went too far. Is it just me?

>> No.17438260

>>17438169
>and more often on their platform and crack down on sexually explicit content in Steam games.

To late;
http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/644570/
>>17437556
>>17437593

>> No.17438318

>>17438169
>games like Gahkthun to be rejected in the future
I wish this trash was rejected in the past.

>> No.17438342

>>17438169
I don't think you're too far off base. As a rule, Steam doesn't really like to get involved with things like mods (porn or otherwise) as long as they're hosted somewhere else. Its only when there is some kind of public outcry will they get involved such as with House Party. All it takes is some clown at a major news network to raise a stink like what happened when CNN covered the whole Rapeplay incident to cause Valve to knee-jerk and mass ban out of some sort of PR "solution". I'm not too worried about it, but it remains a possibility that I'm not comfortable with.

>> No.17438368

>>17438169
You shouldn't sell porn in a platform where you know there are minors. I think this much should be understandable.

>> No.17438400

>>17437312
it's meta NTR, you go in expecting your bad end and the game cucks you out of it

>> No.17438456

>>17438400
>it's meta NTR
No it's not, and Maring is more like prostitution with the husband as a pimp.

>> No.17438464 [DELETED] 

>>17438456
I would appreciate it if ESL retards would refrain from replying to my posts, thanks.

>> No.17438780

Sekai announced French translations of more than a half dozen titles (all doujin stuff) at Otakuthon, but nothing in the way of new announcements.

>>17438169
Something like Gahkthun really isn't at risk even if Steam restricted their standards a tad, as it was able to secure an ESRB-M rating, and MG would go back to getting ESRB ratings if they were forced to for other titles (and others would likely follow them). Something like House Party got push back, though that was easily into ESRB AO territory and was pushing the legal definition of porn, but even then despite the broad news coverage a patch happened to be perfectly fine solution as far as Steam was concerned.

The primary concern though would be for Steam to go after titles with official patches, although the combination of successful titles with patches (such as Nekopara) and unofficial R18 patches of titles like Skyrim make it easier said than done to enforce at this point.

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>> No.17439109 [DELETED] 

Why is ef vn so much worse than anime? Just finished first arc and it was total disaster compared to such a wonderful anime. Like half of the plot from anime absent in vn.

>> No.17439159

Whens MG announcements?

>> No.17439178
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>>17439159
Friday night.

>> No.17439198

>>17439159
Friday, August 11th at 9:15 p.m. Washington D.C. time, since the con changed locations this year.

>> No.17439229 [DELETED] 

kkk kikestarter when?

>> No.17439290

SukiSuki when?

>> No.17440127

>>17439290
December

>> No.17440577

>>17437782
Is Moogy French Canadian? That may explain why he is really defensive.

>> No.17440601

>>17440577
He's such a little bitch.
https://curiouscat.me/Moogy/post/190666221

Denying that tlwiki was completely in Sekai's corner and telling Aroduc to suck it up and bend over is a joke.

>> No.17440613

Sakura Sakura when!?

>> No.17440829

>>17440613
Why do you even care? Love triangles are pure, unadulterated cancer. I doubt having some ex-Nutaku "translator" work on it will make it any more palatable.

>> No.17440887

>>17440601
Wait what?! He did have involvement in the translation he even said he finished one route on it.

Also ironic because if this sucks which it will, he will become the laughing stock. The thing is anyone who chooses Sekai over MG, JAST or even Frontwing are choosing short term over long term. That says a lot about their character.

>> No.17441059

These guys are genius, wonder what valve is going to do eventually

http://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=SakuraGame

>> No.17441073

>>17441059
Nothing. In a way I wish they would since chinks selling machine translations is hardly good for the market but nothing will happen.

>> No.17441110

Does anyone remember the name of this hentai flash-game VN? I remember it was a big a deal when it was translated 1-2 years ago, set in a high school with futas, the main girl had a succubus spirit, and the intro cutscene had a snow white motif.

Anyone remember what it was called? I can't find it now again. Bouncy tit gifs of it used to be spammed everywhere.

>> No.17441150

>>17441110
Is it this one?

https://vndb.org/v16266

>> No.17441231
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>>17431711
>Mangagamer
>Project Status
>LAST UPDATED 7/21/2017
just let me bully Sakuma already, fuck

>> No.17441445

>>17441231
Is this a homo VN?

>> No.17441525

>>17441445
Yep

>> No.17442157

Dies Irae patch never?

>> No.17442230

>>17442157
It was confirmed for september.

>> No.17442276

>>17442230
Where? Only thing I've seen about September was some guy's comment on the Kickstarter page, and he was talking about physical copies. There aren't any updates on Kickstarter or Twitter.

>> No.17442303

>>17442276
Also someone asked Conjueror again and like before, he doesn't know anything
https://curiouscat.me/Conjueror/post/188896401

>> No.17442361

>>17441059
Yet another reason to avoid the word Sakura on Steam.

>> No.17442394

>>17441231
It was already fantranslated by the same translator who's updating the existing translation to improve its quality. Some sections won't even be much if any different.

>> No.17442499

>The planned steam price is indeed $30 (for Sakura Sakura), however there are currently no plans for a first week discount.
How bad will it do? No rush, since there's no sale.

>> No.17442787

>>17442499
As they claim they will attempt to deliver both honorifics and no honorifics, it should sell to the entire fan base.

>> No.17442819

>>17442787
But it will have mosaics, so that greatly reduces the people interested. The physical copy will be all ages too.

>> No.17443418

>>17442819
>that greatly reduces the people interested
Literally no one cares about mosaics

>> No.17443429

>>17443418
No one cares about TL quality, either.

>> No.17443707
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Sorry if this isn't the correct place for these types of posts. I don't tend to read this thread.

Recently I've been playing this game called Hatsukoi (https://vndb.org/v750#main). I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far, and was pretty disappointed when I found out that it wasn't translated. Apparently there was a defunct translation project several years ago. However, from the scripts that have survived on tlwiki, it's a good thing it was never finished, since many of the lines are blatantly inaccurate. I'm not sure the old translator even knew what passive tense is.

All that being said, I've gotten the desire to take a stab at it myself. The problem is I am not experienced in extracting and reinserting VN scripts. There are a couple well known engines I have been able to figure out using existing tools found on the internet, but most engines are beyond me.

That brings me to my question: Does anyone here happen to be familiar with extracting an xp file? Scenario.xp seems to clearly be the file with the scripts, but I have no clue how to go about it. Again, my apologies if this isn't the correct thread for this.

>> No.17443712

>>17442394
Is it the broken fanpatch that crashes the game every 10 minutes? I've played the nearly entire game with it (excluding the main route because it got too annoying)

>> No.17443771

>>17443707
>Hatsukoi
Imouto the best.

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>>17443771
She really is. I went in essentially planning the gun straight for her route, but I ended up liking all of the other characters much more than I expected.

>> No.17443979

>>17443707
Pretty sure Ribbit has a guide on how to extract assets, so I'd just google that

>> No.17444074

What's the deal with SukiSuki anyway? Is it being held back because Chuable went bankrupt? I mean, it was only announced a year ago, so a release before 2018 would still be fairly quick in relativity to Sekai or JAST, but it's been in beta for a strangely long time.

>> No.17444081

>>17444074
It's very long, so it's understandable that it's taking a long time, especially if they're running into any issues.

>> No.17444082

>>17444081
I guess. I just hope they weren't waiting on assets from Chuable or something - assets which they may no longer be able to obtain.

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>>17442499
>>17442787
>>17442819
Sol Press actually said they are working on a solution to offer an R18 physical release as an upgrade during the Backerkit.

They seem to be attempting to please everyone, which from a consumer standpoint is great but could easily lead to them getting in over their heads. Something like the free patch is in line with most of the companies these days, and they just have a stronger attitude than other companies ("patches should always be free" vs "We can only advertise the patch on Steam if we have it free"). Even making it HD is probably more of a requirement to deal with an older 800x600 title today. Some other things they are doing won't do much for sales and in some cases (such as offering multiple physical releases of all ages and R18 if they go through with that), will likely incur significant extra costs. Even something like honorifics, you do have a mix of preferences with the audience, but it probably won't do enough sales wise to justify the costs of the increased work on the script and the increase in technical work and testing that will be required. Even if everything works out here though, it is unlikely to be sustainable with other titles that appear to already be in the pipeline. For Sakura Sakura itself though, despite all the good will it is sure to get from going above and beyond what is normally expected, it still may truggle because it is an older not widely known title without much standing out about it, and they'll probably have a hard time breaking even with the sheer amount of Kickstarter goods being offered unless they exceed their $24k goal by a large margin. .

With regards to the Steam price though, they don't want to run into the issue of the Steam launch being cheaper than the Kickstarter, but they would be better off bumping the on Steam price to $35 and adding a 10% discount for launch than launching at $30 without a launch sale.

>> No.17444218

>>17444074
The last month MG released a moege so this time they should release a VN with another genre; Bokuten, Kuroinu 2ch, Umineko or Imopara 2.
And to be fair, almost no one cares about that moege where the best girl don't have a route

>> No.17444241

>>17444218
>almost no one cares about that moege where the best girl don't have a route
That's every moege ever

>> No.17444257

>>17444218
Kuroinu Ch. 2 and Little Miss Lonesome are through testing, and Space Live was mostly through testing with the last update (while we don't have details of the 07th Expansion titles). Little Miss Lonesome would probably be the best for MG to announce a release date for at a convention of those, and they had already said they wanted a Summer release for it.

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>>17444241
Feels bad, man.
But I'm a little burned of seeing 2/3 moeges every month.

>> No.17444266

>>17434586
Only MG shills are allowed to shit on other companies here!

>> No.17444275

>>17444263
(You)ki is a pretty close second, so it isn't like the want-can't-have had an overwhelming advantage.

And, yeah, me too, which is why I suspect SukiSuki is probably a Oct-Dec range release.

>> No.17444278

>>17444266
Nobody's stopping you from shitting on MG's output if you want.

>> No.17444280

>>17444257
>and they had already said they wanted a Summer release for it.
They also said early Summer for ImoPara 2 in their April's Fools page for ImoPara.

Uh, but then again maybe I wasn't supposed to take that seriously.

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>>17444266
Please Dovac, we can shills to any company (MG/JAST/FW/Moenovel/SP), but the later is one of the worst that you can find in the VN industry; forced "localizations", retard comments on TW, releases half-edited, untranslated menus, unedited pics, expensive unc/patches, etc...

>> No.17444316

>>17438029
There is no "I" on 4chan, just the collective voice. A voice obviously suffering from multiple personalities.

>> No.17444325

>>17444311
I love it when MG employees post without their trip.

>> No.17444336

>>17444311
Says the creature from the SJW cesspool.

>> No.17444432

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/chronoclock-limited-edition-box-set-and-exclusive/posts/1958488

They put out the mosaic free version of Chrono Clock.

>> No.17444439

>>17444432
Timely updates as always

>> No.17444503

>>17444325
Dovac please. Stop embarassing yourself. And next time use your trip so we can at least get some entertainment.

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>>17443707
Slight progress. I found something on github that recognized the xp file type and could extract it into several BCS. Getting closer but it seems this shit is still encrypted somehow unfortunately.

>> No.17445403

>Whenever you’ve finished a report from Marina, go back to the title screen (after saving your game, of course) and do a little exploring… saaaaaaay, for the scenario gallery? Click through and you might find a scene you don’t remember watching before. Hrmm…

>Or, you can do what I did and wait until you’ve finished the main game, then find that gallery and go through all of those extra scenes in order. All of them combined almost double the game length and add a very sexy new perspective to the NTR play!

>Honestly, if I hadn’t been the editor for this title, I would have played through the main game and not even known that this other half had existed, so I hope this little tip is useful for those who play games the way I do.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2017/08/08/marinas-cuckolding-report-game-mechanics/

>> No.17445589

>>17444432
Now just to wait for somebody to reverse-patch the original with the demosaic images and we'll be set.

>> No.17445869

>>17444432
How about fixing the fucking TL instead?

>> No.17445909
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What do you think will be next: 01, sengoku or quest?

>> No.17445912

>>17445909
Sengoku.

>> No.17445933

>>17444626
Good luck, mate. Warmly waiting.

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>>17445933
Unfortunately I think I'm personally at a dead end with my very limited programming knowledge unless I want to invest a ton of time learning about hex editors and shit. I left a comment on the somewhat active github of the tool that got me halfway to the goal point. The people there seem to increase the scope of the program every now and then so there's a chance they add this BCS file extension if it isn't that much of a bitch to work with.

It seems like they'd already done a newer game from the same publisher, so I think there's a decent chance the encryption style would be the same and that only an offset or something would be different. Sorry for the wordy explanation but that's basically where it stands now and I don't think there's much I can do aside from waiting and hoping for the best.

>> No.17445948

>>17445946
Developers exist, but most are unwilling to hack a file format for someone who has only made promises. If you make decent headway on a new TL, I guarantee someone will solve reinsertion for you.

Start a blog.

>> No.17445952

>>17445948
Yeah I definitely understand that. The issue I suppose stems from the fact that it's easier for me to make said headway if I had the script files. I suppose a good portion of the common route is on tlwiki still. I think the plan of action might be to start translating that if I don't get lucky with someone responding with some tool I overlooked on here or github.

>> No.17446008

>>17445909
01 would be cool

>> No.17446193

>>17445952
I'm really interested in Hatsukoi and wish you best of luck.

>> No.17446910

>>17445909
Quest or 01, we already played the shit of Sengoku years ago and nobody care.

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>>17445909
Sengoku and Quest Magnum.

>> No.17447203

>>17446910
I care, speak for yourself!

>> No.17447225

>>17447203
Well, you shouldn't .

>> No.17447917

>>17447203
Nobody cares about you

>> No.17448008

>>17447203
You can literally play sengoku right now though. I'd rather the rest of the series gets translated than time wasted on that.

>> No.17448046

Anybody knows how many sec scenes there are per route in Wagama High Spec?
Playing through Dal Segno and I'm kind of disappointed that there are just two per route and they aren't even fappable.

>> No.17448067

>>17448046
4+bonus one in gallery

>> No.17448089

>>17448067
Too bad, was looking for something more like a nukige

>> No.17448093 [DELETED] 

>>17448067
SJWgamer BTFO!

>> No.17448109

>>17448089
What? 5 is the upper limit for absolute majority of nukige. WagaHigh's routes are pretty short too. Took me a while to finish it only because I had to keep recharging semen since the H-scenes are like 30 minutes apart.

>> No.17448112

>>17448109
>majority of nukige
I meant majority of moege.

>> No.17448113

>>17448089

...Then buy a nukige?

>> No.17448182

>>17448008
And I would rather have a proper translation of Sengoku, I'm sure other people who got introduced to Rance from MGs release would also like to play the next game in the series without a gap in between.

>> No.17448215

>>17448046
Two per route seems pretty standard for Circus games.

>> No.17448283

>>17448046
Noeri's are pretty good and Ame's one scene is pretty good. The rest really aren't though, they're just there to show the relationship development.
Wagamama has way more scenes per girl and a lot of them are quite lewd.

>> No.17448300

>>17448182
The fanTL is proper though. Why would there be a gap?

>> No.17448329

>>17448283
>Wagamama has way more scenes per girl and a lot of them are quite lewd.
Yeah, the scenes were amazing. I don't want to brag, but I've fapped to a plenty of moege. The scenes in this one were one of the best.

>> No.17448419

>>17448182
I agree with that other guy. Nobody cares what you think.

>> No.17448499

>>17448419
It's MG setting up the market for their Sengoku announcement and making it seem like people wanted it.

>> No.17448547

>>17448300
Except for the stuff that aren't translated in it.

>>17448499
Nice conspiracy theory, now go buy a tinfoil hat.

>> No.17448803

>We might have a little early surprise tonight though, so keep your eyes peeled~
What will MG announce?

>> No.17448807

>>17448803
White Album 2

>> No.17448814

>>17448807
They saw how everyone was complaining about Sengoku Rance, so they're going to announce it early just to get it out of the way.

>> No.17448873

>>17445909
It comes down to Sengoku or Quest. I want Quest more, but not releasing Sengoku at all is weird.

>> No.17448911

I'm guessing Frontwing made some type of promotional deal with Sekai, as Sekai put out a couple tweets today referring to Phantom Trigger on Steam and the Subahibi Kickstarter. While I figured the next Grisaia update will plug the Subahibi Kickstarter as Grisaia Kickstarter updates have typically included a plug for Frontwing stuff, I have to think some type of separate deal was made to include promotion over Twitter.

Calme put out that KaraKara has hit 100,000 downloads, though the overwhelming majority of that would be from the Humble Bundle. It is well in line with the Steamspy estimate, which has varied from 95k through 110k or so recently (generally averaging around 105k).

>> No.17448963

>>17448803

DC3 hardcopy

>> No.17449379

>>17448803
Amatsutsumi

>> No.17449393

>>17448873
100% Sengoku. After that, I think it'll be Quest and then maybe 01+02 in a bundle since the original release order was wonky.

I don't know how they'll plan to move more copies of Sengoku other than demosaicing since making it a higher res like they did with 6 sounds unlikely.

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>>17448803
lol

>> No.17449441

>>17449438

Even cucking other people's expectations, truly magnificent

>> No.17449446

>>17448547
Wow you have Color tribe instead of Kalar tribe. Worth pushing back Quest another year or so.

And by virtue of that pushing back the other Rance games.

>>17448182
They already can. And the vast majority of people who bought Rance VI will have nothing for another year.

The Rance fanbase overwhelmingly would prefer a Quest translation over a Sengoku retranslation which as far as most people is concerned going to effectively be the exact same thing as what was released in 2009 but without mosiacs on the CGs. Given that Alicesoft fans have actually now proven twice that they will actually buy games why not reward that rather than pissing on the fans?

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>>17449438
Bocchi Musume ended up getting a release date and demo

>> No.17449464

>>17449450
Looking at the blog they are doing another free R18 patch, and they added a toggle for the R18 scenes in game.

>> No.17449472

>>17449464

No, we didn't add the toggle. That was always there. Kind of a nice feature if you're ever playing a game in a situation where it'd be nice to not get blindsided by H-scenes.

>> No.17449520

>>17449446
AliceSoft fans did get Evenicle announced which is a pretty big deal. It's the best non-Rance game AliceSoft has released in years and is still relatively new. If MangaGamer does want to try to sneak in Sengoku Rance this is the best and perhaps only opportunity to do so while they still have the hype and goodwill from announcing Evenicle. I do hope they give us Rance Quest+Magnum. I just don't see how they can pass up the money Sengoku Rance would bring in. Going back to translate it later doesn't make much sense so now is the time to announce it.

The Rance fan base is already used to being forced to wait. If they've stuck around this long an extra year or two probably won't drive many of them away while an official release of Sengoku Rance could bring in some new fans because of how addictive and enjoyable the game is. If Sengoku does get announced I expect some tantrums from a few loud individuals followed by begrudging acceptance.

>> No.17449535

>>17449520
Pushing Quest back further will kill any hype or goodwill from Evenicle.

You drastically overestimate the money Sengoku Rance will bring in because everyone has already played it in English before. And it would have to be translated from scratch again and they have already indicated that they want to stage Alicesoft releases so non-Rance/Rance/non-Rance so translating Sengoku Rance again from scratch (considering Arunaru is doing Evenicle) would push Quest back to 2019 and then 01/03/IX/X well into the 2020s.

Sengoku Rance doesn't need a retranslation and translating it again solely to try and grab money using the logic that the fans are used to waiting and will buy anyway is the perfect way to burn any good will you have.

>> No.17449559

>>17449535
>Sengoku Rance doesn't need a retranslation and translating it again solely to try and grab money using the logic that the fans are used to waiting and will buy anyway is the perfect way to burn any good will you have.
Not like they can contact TakaJun and buy his TL. The guy fell off the face of the internet, and it probably wouldn't be up to their standards anyway. I'd be more irritated if MG didn't re-TL it, honestly, but I have no delusions about being in the majority.

>> No.17449578

>>17449535
Partially agreed. I think they've indicated that they will do a re-translation in order to keep certain terms consistent. The ideal scenario is to have Evenicle released this year and somehow push out both Sengoku and Quest in mid-2018, which might be possible if Aru was already doing parts of Quest prior to the Alicesoft partnership.

>> No.17449589

>>17449578
Quest is like 3/4 done already.

>> No.17449590

>>17449578
That ideal scenario is fantasy. Why would they release two Rance games at once especially since Quest is presumably coming with Magnum anyway?

Sengoku Rance isn't Rance 5D.

>> No.17449836

>>17449559
I went through the very beginning of SR and if the rest of the TL is like it then it's definitely not up to professional standards. While it conveys the right ideas, it's basically pure translationese.

>> No.17449873

>>17449450
>9/8
So, uh, are we gonna have two releases this month?

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>>17449836
Not all that surprised, desu. TakaJun's work is understandable, but it's not all that good, and not something I'd expect a VN translation company to sell, at least without changing it quite a bit.

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>> No.17449945

If Sengoku Rance is announced before Quest you have lost me as a customer mangagamer.
I bought haruka even though I didn't play it, I bought Rance VI twice, I bought Myth, I bought Fata and I even bought that shitty thing VN about that guy with that disease who went to that island.

>> No.17449955

>>17449578
I sincerely doubt that they would do a dual release of Sengoku+Quest, although I wouldn't rule out them announcing both at the same time just to let people know Quest was on the way. Even if they did a dual release though, it would be two full price standalone releases with an available bundle. It's probably in their interest to grab Sengoku though both for completion reasons and because of just how broadly known Sengoku is (well beyond the primary Alicesoft audience) thanks to having rather wide availability for years.

>>17449559
>>17449836
>>17449900
The amusing thing though is that even if MG picks up Sengoku Rance and gives it an outstanding localization, it will get compared to the old version where more than a handful of people who prefer the old names and titles will say they would rather play the old crap.

>> No.17449960

https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/895535028045623297

Does this all but confirm Sengoku Rance? Rance Quest isn't a strategy game and I doubt they would bring over a flop like Daiteikoku. Considering the hints given earlier in the year about the "historical bent" I would be shocked at this point if it wasn't Sengoku Rance.

>> No.17449965

>>17449960
Even if they used the new names it would be trivial for someone to change them to the new names. I'm very fond of JAPAN, in particular.

>> No.17449985

>>17449965
The Rance general on /vg/ had nameshit patches out for Rance 5D and Rance VI the day of release.

This translation is so unneeded.

>> No.17449988

Also Arunaru finished Evenicle's Translation so maybe will be out at the first months of 2018
>inb4 Valentine release.

>> No.17450005

>>17449985
A re-translation would be a good thing because names aside, the existing Sengoku Rance fan translation was lacking and could use substantial improvement. It is just the name stuff would keep such an effort from being as appreciated as it otherwise would be as people are going to prefer the names and terms they originally played it with and judge the translation on that thanks to it being readily noticeable by a reader, and not understand why things were arbitrarily changed without any good obvious reason. Even if the primary Alicesoft market would readily be able to change it back, most individuals would not be aware of such a patch.

>> No.17450017

>>17450005
The primary market doesn't give the slightest shit about the poor translation. The primary market is unaware that the translation is poor.

This is just thinking that Rance fans are useful suckers who can get milked even more.

>> No.17450028

>>17450017
I'm pretty sure "giving an alternative to piracy" is very different from "milking".

>> No.17450033

>>17450028
Translation has been out since 2009. Its a blatant cash grab no different to the shitty sekai kickstarters of already translated shit.

>> No.17450043

>>17450033
"We have been pirating it since 2009. I'm an entitled pirate and them spending time on things I've already played illegally instead of new translations that I'm just going to pirate is a disgrace."

>> No.17450049

>>17450043
Please take your strawman ad hominen bullshit somewhere else

>> No.17450050

>>17450049
It's not a debate, you're simply irrational.

>> No.17450059

>>17450050
Irrational is ignoring your target market and inventing reasons to do so

>> No.17450060

>>17450059
You are not the "target market". You are a single person.

>> No.17450063

>>17450059
Irrational is inventing reasons to be upset about companies you don't own spending their money doing things that don't benefit you.

>> No.17450068

>>17450043
Yeah yeah. Keep taking customers for granted. Its nothing about entitlement. If you want people to buy something from you deliver what they want. You aren't entitled to customer money.

And for all you want to go on about how people pirated back in 2009 well if it weren't for those early fan translations there wouldn't be an industry in the West.

>> No.17450070

>>17450068
I'm pretty sure the people who pirated SR in 2009 weren't customers of SR. They have no say in what resources get put into SR. They didn't put any money into it.

You are the definition of an entitled pirate.

>> No.17450071

>>17450060
Find any evidence that the target market wants a Sengoku retranslation over releases of untranslated games.

>> No.17450074

>>17450071
"Find any evidence that pirates want to pay for a game"

>> No.17450075

>>17450070
The majority of people who bought Rance VI and kept it at the top of the charts for half a year were those same pirates.

>> No.17450077

>>17450075
Sure, so why shouldn't they pay for something they already stole?

>> No.17450082

>>17450074
Why was Rance VI a hyped release? Why did it sell well?
Because people who played Sengoku Rance wanted more Rance.

Why is Mangagamer entitled to customer money for providing a product that everyone already has?

>> No.17450084

>>17450074
It's not like piracy is even the issue, it's whether people want to pay for something they've already experienced.

>> No.17450091

>>17450084
Yes but he is just baiting.

>> No.17450094

>>17450082
A product they don't own. A product they consumed without paying for it. A product that costs money. A pirate fanbase is not worth money unless you can turn them into legitimate customers. Yes, people who pirated SR both Rance 6. But did they buy SR, the game they pirated? No. They didn't. And they should buy it, especially if they like it. Right now, it's literally impossible to buy it without importing a version in a foreign language that people who need translations can't play.

>>17450084
If you pirated it you should buy it. And there's nothing at all strange about wanting people to pay for something they pirated.

>> No.17450101

>>17450094
Should, could, would, that's just rubbish that doesn't matter in the real world to a business. The question is WILL people buy it?

>> No.17450102

>>17450101
Yeah, they will.

>> No.17450104

>>17450094
They can play the foreign version. Just apply the translation patch. Why is mangagamer entitled to a cut?

>> No.17450108

>>17450094
Actually since Sengoku Rance was not sold or licensed outside Japan there was no piracy involved.

>> No.17450109

>>17450104
They won't, because it's less convenient than piracy. Also, Alicesoft makes it pathologically difficult for gaijin to buy their games.

MG would be "entitled" to a cut (and remember, you personally don't have to buy it, the only thing you could potentially be losing is getting other games earlier) because they're going to have to translate the damn thing. The original TL is not acquirable, and not good enough to ask anyone to pay for even if it were.

>> No.17450114

>>17450108
You're so stupid it's incomprehensible.

>> No.17450115 [DELETED] 

>>17450082
Sengoku Rance is both the most well known title in the series by a long shot with broad recognition, which a good reason to . At the same time though, moral arguments aside MG has historically found that publishing titles that had been fan translated tends to lead to depressed sales on a given title (I believe EF in particular stands out for a lackluster initial release after being fan translated). The question is how strongly these competing things balance out, but I would think the strong recognition of Sengoku Rance (informing people the series is being officially published) is a decent reason to publish it, and having 5D through Sengoku available for purchase is a more solid foundation for proceeding forward with the series instead of telling new customers to track down a fanTL even if Quest may potentially be a bigger seller in the short term.

>> No.17450116

>>17450108
That's not what piracy means.

>> No.17450118

>>17450094
Save the translation expense and just sell the untranslated Sengoku Rance then.

>> No.17450119

>>17450118
You can buy the untranslated version right now. I hope you know Japanese! After all, it's not like you need any other Rance games translated, right?

>> No.17450122

>>17450109
Alicesoft and hell even mangagamer are perfectly capable of selling the untranslated version.

>> No.17450125

Sengoku Rance is the most well known title in the series by a long shot with broad recognition, which a good reason to go forward with that first. At the same time though, moral arguments aside MG has historically found that publishing titles that had been fan translated tends to lead to depressed sales on a given title (I believe EF in particular stands out for a lackluster initial release after being fan translated). The question is how strongly these competing things balance out, but I would think the strong recognition of Sengoku Rance (informing people the series is being officially published) is a decent reason to publish it, and having 5D through Sengoku available for purchase is a more solid foundation for proceeding forward with the series instead of telling new customers to track down a fanTL even if Quest may potentially be a bigger seller in the short term.

>> No.17450127

>>17450119
So yes this is once again a way of blatantly milking more from Rance fans by holding Quest hostage. Glad you admitted it.

>> No.17450128

>>17450127
It's not being held hostage. After all, you can buy the Japanese version and play it, right now!

>> No.17450129

>>17450127
No, it's a way of giving Alicesoft money for the game that made them popular. The one that was really fucking hard for them to make. The one that you all pirated.

>> No.17450133

>>17450128
And we're also free to just not buy the Sengoku release because we can play it right now.

>> No.17450135

>>17450133
Sure, but you'd be a parasite with no entitlement to anything.

>> No.17450139

>>17450135
Nah. I can buy the cheaper version from Japan anyway.

>> No.17450143

>>17450139
But you won't, and until you do, you don't have anything remotely resembling an argument.

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This is why Sengoku and Quest needs to be announced at the same time. People new to the franchise will be playing a better version (at least for the translation) of the game and long time fans will have something secured. And, even then, MG could release both games in short time to each other (3-6 months), having both reveneu in short and long term, without eating each other.

Best case scenario, of course. We, most likely, won't get it but I'm hopeful that MG knows that the Rance fanbase can be autistic.

>> No.17450170

>>17450143
And mangagamer still won't have my money. Which it would have had with Quest because I bought VI twice.

>> No.17450172

>>17450161
What is autistic about not wanting to pay for something you already have?

>> No.17450175

>>17450172
You don't have to.

>> No.17450179

>>17450172
Nobody who doesn't want to play for Sengoku is going to have to do so. The only reason anyone was upset is because they think it's going to delay another translation. Obviously they should take a step back and realize that playing Sengoku illegally was something that they didn't deserve, and alicesoft doesn't owe them anything.

>> No.17450194

>>17450179
Its entirely possible to be unhappy with a product you wanted getting delayed for another product you don't want even if you understand why a decision was made.
And it is entirely reasonable to complain because other than not buying that is the best way to communicate. And loud complaints and depressed Sengoku sales makes a Rance Quest announcement next year more likely than Escalayer or a non Rance game.

>> No.17450216

>>17450194
It's entirely unreasonable to act like you get to determine what a company should do because of your personal entitlement. That's very different from merely being upset. In no way is it "milking" (>>17450017) or "unnecessary" (>>17449985) for a company (Alicesoft) to want to get money for a game out of a market that pirated the shit out of that game.

>> No.17450230

>>17450216
How is it unreasonable? Companies have their own priorities but so do customers.
Companies may feel like they deserve money for games that were pirated 8 years ago and morally perhaps they are right byt if customers don't want to buy a certain product from a company for whatever reason but would instead want to buy a different product from that company its reasonable to communicate that.

I bought Haruka. I bought Rance 5D and I bought Rance VI. I would buy Rance Quest or Rance 01 if they were brought over. I will not buy Sengoku Rance.

And yes it is milking by both Alicesoft and Mangagamer. They know that a Sengoku release instead of a Quest release is not what a majority of the fans in the west want but they're banking on people buying it anyway even if they have already played the game.

Your whole argument is a red herring. Alicesoft may perhaps be morally entitled to that money but moral entitlement has never been part of the business-customer relationship in any industry.

>> No.17450235

>>17450230
>I will not buy Sengoku Rance.
Did you play it?

>> No.17450237

>>17450230
I want a Sengoku Rance release. It's the only game I care about. I haven't bought anything from Alice before. I'm considering Evenicle. But I have no interest in any Rance games other than Sencoku Rance. Yes, I pirated it. I want a version of it with a good translation and that isn't horribly unstable.

>> No.17450242

>>17450230
If you haven't payed for Sengoku Rance then you aren't entitled to anything relating to its development.

>> No.17450243

>>17450235
Yes I did. I enjoyed it but no I'm not buying any release from mangagamer.

>>17450237
And there will be plenty of people like you around. I don't deny it. But reality is the majority of the Rance and Alicesoft customer base in the west - eg the people who bought VI and Haruka - would prefer a Quest translation over a Sengoku anouncement.

I am curious as to why you would have played Sengoku and liked it and never at least tried Rance VI or the freeware Kichikuou Rance though.

>> No.17450245

>>17450243
Are you the majority of the customer base?

>> No.17450248

>>17450242
Never said I was entitled to shit in regards to Sengoku Rance. I would have bought a Quest release though.

>> No.17450252

>>17450245
Do you think I am wrong? Its a pretty obvious conclusion to draw.

>> No.17450253

>>17450252
It's not. Do you have any data supporting your "obvious" conclusion?

>> No.17450254

>>17450248
>It's entirely unreasonable to act like you get to determine what a company should do because of your personal entitlement.
>How is it unreasonable?
>If you haven't payed for Sengoku Rance then you aren't entitled to anything relating to its development.
>Never said I was entitled to shit in regards to Sengoku Rance.

>> No.17450257

>>17450254
Sengoku Rance isn't the only possible release they could do though.

>> No.17450258

>>17450257
So?

>> No.17450260

>>17450258
You're not the brightest spark are you?

>> No.17450261

>>17450260
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

>> No.17450285

as if Alicesoft would agree to skipping over Sengoku just because people pirated it 8 years ago lmao

>> No.17450286

>>17450285
this

>> No.17450293

>>17450243
>I'm not buying any release from mangagamer.
Why the fuck should they care about what you want, then?

>> No.17450297

>>17450293
*not buying any Sengoku Rance release from mangagamer.

>> No.17450301

>>17450297
Then you don't get to say anything about what they do with Sengoku Rance.

>> No.17450313

>>17450301
By not buying it when I would have bought a release of a game that doesn't have an existing translation I am in fact sending a message to mangagamer that I don't want them to release games that are already translated.

What part of that logic is difficult for you to comprehend?

>> No.17450330

>>17450313
This has nothing to do with your money and everything to do with your toxic entitled pirate rhetoric.

>> No.17450334

>>17450313
So you pirated Sengoku Rance and now you're coming up with a reason not to pay for it even though it's going to be available legitimately. You're so cool, dude. I'm sure Alicesoft cares a lot about how you feel.

>> No.17450335

>>17450330
Irrelevant red herring. If you are business do what customers want if you want them to buy your stuff.

>> No.17450338

>>17450335
If you never bought Sengoku Rance and you don't plan on buying Sengoku Rance then you're not a customer of Sengoku Rance and they have no reason to consider what you think about Sengoku Rance.

>> No.17450339

Can't you faggots go shitposting in circles somewhere else? Feels like a fucking /vg/ thread

>> No.17450341 [DELETED] 

>>17450330
>toxic entitled
hello tumblr

>> No.17450342

>>17450338
>Sengoku Rance is their only product.

>> No.17450343

>>17450342
Who are you quoting?

>> No.17451312 [DELETED] 

Does Don't Starve have online multiplayer on the Vita?

>> No.17451343

>>17451312
And how this is related to VN's?

>> No.17451363

>>17451343
Wrong tab, forgive me.

>> No.17451404

I can't believe you autists are arguing about the most expected release ever. Were you guys also bitching when MG picked up Umineko, or decided to retranslate Higurashi? There are plenty of titles that have been re-released and /jp/ has accepted without whining like the manchildren they are. What a dumb fucking thing to cry about, nobody is going to make you buy the game.

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>>17451363
Don't worry, that can happen sometimes but...

>> No.17451501

>>17449873
We'll find out at Otakon. Most likely they'll announce something there. If they don't announce anything at their panel, then probably not.

>> No.17451523

>>17449945
Quest is the sequel to Sengoku. It makes sense for Sengoku to come first.

>> No.17451571

>>17451523
VI is a sequel to 01, 02, 03, IV (for now). It makes sense for them to come first.
But they didn't.

>> No.17451617

>>17450122
MG quit selling the 07th Expansion patchable titles on their site, because it helped cause the misconception that MG was a fan TL group that charged for their patches. They won't go the patch the Japanese version again because of that.

>> No.17451667

>>17451571
They're ancient and are being remade, that's why.

>> No.17451684

>>17451667
Are you stupid? I said 01, 02, 03. Those are the remakes.

>> No.17451695

>>17451684
They're also newer than Sengoku and make references to the previous games.

>> No.17451703

>>17451695
I can't tell if you've ever played a Rance game other than SR.

>> No.17451716

>>17451703
Did you? 03 has several refences to games like quest and sengoku.

>> No.17451720

>>17451703
He's right though.

>> No.17451795

>>17451716
And SR references III. What are you going to do about this cycle? Release date is less important than the chronological timeline.

>> No.17451822

>>17451795
Chronologically 02 was released before 01.

>> No.17451835

>>17451795
They might not touch the remakes until IV gets released.

>> No.17452180

Who let the Rancefags out of confinement?

>> No.17452417

>>17452180
Me. Nothin personnel.

>> No.17452437

Meanwhile I'm waiting for the sequel to Knights of Xentar. The best RPG ever released.

>> No.17453172

Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome is cheaper than I expected being the price of a Softhouse Seal game. Anyone know how long it is? 10-30 hours is pretty vague.

>> No.17453430

>>17453172
And with 20% pre-order discount.

>> No.17454033

>>17453172
Considering it only has 2 love interests obviously it's nowhere near as long as Ozmafia.

>> No.17454063

>>17453172

It's in the 10-15hr range? Probably closer to 10. There are 2.5 routes (there's a 3P one after you complete the other two) and a lot of endings. It was originally about 4k yen so it's more or less what you'd expect from a half-price title. There are a pretty decent number of H-scenes too 2 in each route, 2 in after stories and like... 1.5 (one scene with two branching variations) in the 3P route if I'm remembering right, if that's something that matters to you.

>> No.17454134

>>17450172
The only reason I can see this being the case is if you bought the game legally before and years later it's being resold on a different platform. Nintendo is known for that and it does make certain people angry.

But if you pirate it especially something that is not AAA in the first place. It''s wrong due to the fact effort was put into it and time. Many do not get paid much especially Indies and Visual Novel companies. AAA games can take a hit when piracy and they know it. Others can not and it's really a struggle.

>> No.17454146

>>17454134
Boohoo, people stole my game.
I bought Haruka. Give me Quest.

>> No.17454157

>>17450285
Agreed. This argument is just dumb. I have not played the game but I keep hearing how good it is.

>> No.17454160

I just want the entirety of the Rance franchise localized. Am I a bad person for wanting that?
I'd be really sad if they start to hop over titles.

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>>17451404
Well Rance has the most neurotic fans ever.

>IT MUST BE THIS WAY AND ONLY THIS WAY ANY OTHER WAY IS HORRIBLE

I do not care I so just happy to have anything I could get even from Higurashi and Umineko especially the physicals announcement.

>> No.17454177

>>17454063
Thanks for the info. $25 is okay for that length. If I like the demo, I'll probably preorder.

>> No.17454207

>>17454160
They will localize all of them. I am sure they are just going for the newer titles and the most relevant for now.

>> No.17454305

>>17454160
Uh, excuse me, we don't have Quest yet because of retards like you. Do everyone a favor and just kill yourself.
/s

Just ignore the salty people, man. I want the exact same thing. Sengoku with a better TL won't hurt anyone, and Alicesoft would be stupid if they didn't want MG to release all the Rance games.

>> No.17454331

>>17454305
>/s
>salty
I wonder where this poster came from.

>> No.17454407

>>17454331
Not that guy but I can only assume it denoted sarcasm. Not being salty.
Or are you just trying to bait people?

>> No.17454437

>>17454407
What? I know it stands for sarcasm. I quoted two different words from his post. You can go back with him.

>> No.17454444

>>17454331
something something reddit sucks something something

The horse is dead, anon, you need to get a new one.

>> No.17454514

>>17454207
The opposite you mean.

>> No.17454559

>>17454444
No one here would have an issue if you properly assimilated 4chan etiquette. It's like yelling out faggot in a pride parade. Lurk more.

>> No.17454704

>>17454559
What did you expect from paid mangagamer employees?

>> No.17454714

>>17454207
How is an already translated game from 2006 newer or more relevant?

>> No.17454721

>>17454704
No, I'm the paid employee and I can fit in just fine.

>> No.17454909
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24 hours remain. Place your bets, gentlemen.

Betting Aides:
Mangagamer's Hints from earlier this year: http://blog.mangagamer.org/2017/02/13/2017-licensing-survey-results-and-some-hints-too/
One title is Arunaru's https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/895535028045623297
Conjueror is there https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/894868673252425728
The supipara fundraiser is supsiciously close to 2 http://mangagamer.org/minori/
Vodka? on /v/ alluding to another BL title? https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/376747142/#q376757820

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>>17454909

And my card, of course.

>> No.17454956

>>17454704
If I'm the best shill they can muster, their PR is fucked. Try again, buddy.

>> No.17455010

>>17454956
Visual novel PR is pretty fucked. Mangagamer look good because the competition is so bad.

>> No.17455062

>>17455010
Hey, don't say that, you'll upset Speedbeatz. He's such a cool guy.

>> No.17455117

>>17448283
>Noeri's are pretty good and Ame's one scene is pretty good
You have one of the weirdest tastes then. CIRCUS h-scenes are known for being absurdly boring.

>> No.17455235

>>17454909
One other thing to note about Sekai is they have an R18 and all ages panel at Anime Fest next weekend, which would be another reason to not expect much from them at Otakon.

>> No.17455358

>>17450285
Not only that. But the localization of Rance Quest would no doubt drum up a lot of buzz surrounding Rance again in the western audiences.
And Sengoku Rance as stated, got its fan translation almost a full decade ago. Not only will there be people who might have been interested in the game but missed out on it anyway for whatever the reason. There'll be people who hadn't even entered puberty at the time but might very well be interested in the game now.

And what would these people do if Rance Quest caught their interests, if they heard that they should play Sengoku Rance first? Well. Buying it wouldn't be an option. So it'd be a huge missed opportunity. Just bad business sense in general.

>> No.17455425

>>17455358
Its logical for Alicesoft and Mangagamer but understandably disappointing for the Rance VI customers. Evenicle was also picked over Rance due to the possibility of getting the Senran Kagura audience into audience.

But Mangagamer would be wise to push out Quest quickly after Sengoku if they want to mollify an audience that has proven itself reliable.

>> No.17455468

>>17455358
Why is Quest so hyped? Because people played Sengoku and want what happens next. Extending your logic and they should have started with Rance 01 abd done 2 and 03 before VI because now they have to tell people who started with VI to play a fantranslated game rather than sonething they could buy.

>> No.17455502

>>17455468
Invalid logic. The series basically starts at Rance 4.

>> No.17455521

>>17455502
Except for the major plot events in Rance III. Rance IV is only relevant to Rance IX.

>> No.17455539

>>17455521
>major plot events
>Rance

>> No.17455581

>>17455539
In which case people don't need Sengoku to play Quest.

>> No.17455594

>>17455581
Of course not, people would just get told they do and pirate it.

>> No.17455631

>>17455594
And people will just get told they need to play the games before VI and read the fantranslations instead of the remakes.

>> No.17455637

>>17455631
They won't because the general Rance fanbase doesn't care that much about them, aside from the /vg/ folks.

>> No.17455843

>>17455637
The autists on /vg/ are also the only people unhappy with the current translation. Good luck getting a bunch of students and NEETs to buy a new translation of something they have already paid though.

>> No.17455976

>>17455843
Hey, no one likes Aru's nameshit.

>> No.17455984

>>17455976
kyankyan is indefensible.

>> No.17456003

>>17455976
But Aru is translating the new Sengoku release. >>17455984
'

>> No.17456015

>>17456003
And it will get patched again.

>> No.17456022

>>17455976
The current SR translation has Leazus instead of Leazas and Color instead of Kalar. That's worst than most of Arunaru's nameshit except maybe Can Can and Fiend/Archfiend

>> No.17456049

>>17456022
What's wrong with Archfiend?

>> No.17456056

>>17456022
Only /haniho/ autist give a fuck about that and given they had a nameshit patch out for VI within hours but have never bothered doing a patch for Sengoku it can be concluded that they don't care too much.

>> No.17456064

>>17456056
No, it can be concluded that they hate Arunaru with burning passion. Which is why we're getting a patch for SukiSuki as well for sure.

>> No.17456070

>>17456049
Nothing. There was just no reason to change from Demon King which the translator himself had used in the past.

>> No.17456083

>>17456064
They never did a nameshit patch for KR.

>> No.17456095

>>17456070
Eh, there's no reason to keep it as Demon King either

>> No.17456106

>>17456070
Demon King was always shit. At most it should be Demon Lord, but certainly not Demon King.
I am fine with Archfiend though.

>> No.17456123

>>17456049
After years of using Demon King, which is the most common translation of the generic term, or some slight variant of the term (KR uses Demon Lord), switching to Fiend to emulate Dragon Quest and SMT is weird. I understand Arunaru's reasoning, but it's a largely unnecessary change even if it causes less confusion when devils get involved.

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>>17456123
>which is the most common translation of the generic term

>> No.17456154

>>17456131
Pretty much every recent anime and manga translates Maou as Demon King. Only old school franchises translate it as something else, and that's only to evade the moral guardians that were around at that time.

>> No.17456163

>>17456123
It is literally a synonym. People use different words because they have a vocabulary. Using the same words over and over because you want consistency across everything or to conform to the most commonly used is the defence of a small mind.

>> No.17456168

>>17456154
I hope you're not referring to scanlations, fansubs, and simulcasts, anon.

>> No.17456203

>>17456163
But MG is going for one term, dumbass.

>> No.17456224

>>17456203
In every VN? Then they're the dumbasses.

>> No.17456226

>>17456163
Modern day connotations of Demon King and Archfiend are slightly different. Demon King immediately sounds like he's at the top, while Archfiend makes it seems like he's still under someone even if he's obviously powerful, sort of like the Archangels. In the Rance continent, that's sort of the case, but that's not common knowledge to the characters. It doesn't help that Yu-Gi-Oh uses Archfiend as the name for a card archetype.

>> No.17456228

>>17456163
And Arunaru changed from the terms he and Maria had previously used soley to be a special snowflake.

>> No.17456260

>>17456226
The reason archangels aren't "at the top" is because the ones at "the top" are Gods. Archfiends are leaders of demons, those that think otherwise don't understand the term.

>>17456228
Literally matters not at all.

>> No.17456294

>>17456224
Only for the Rance games. It would be silly to use it for every fantasy game they got.

Evenicle uses a lot of terms that Rance uses due to having a somewhat similar world, but the entities the terms represent are sometimes entirely different. I wouldn't be surprised if Arunaru translated them differently because of that. Inb4 Haniwa become Golems and 魔王 is translated as Adonai

>> No.17456522

>>17454909
>mangagamer working on any other official BL releases?
>...Just as note, if it's not announced, I can't talk about it.
I'm not sure I consider that a hint or not. That's pretty much a standard response.

>> No.17456650

>>17454909
They misspelled Daiteikoku in the poll results. Now that MG's announced Evenicle, it looks like that's next on their list as the most requested Alicesoft title besides Rance.

>> No.17456739
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>> No.17456858

>>17456650

I think you're forgetting that I'm just abysmal at spelling.

>> No.17456878

>>17456858
Rance Quest when?

>> No.17456895

>>17456858
How would you rate my predictions? >>17456739

>> No.17456903

>>17456878
Buy Sengoku Rance to get Rance Quest!

>> No.17457049

>>17456903
Rance Quest never confirmed

>> No.17457137
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Futa when

>> No.17457510

>>17457137
I love that title. I wish there was more FutaOna stories.

>> No.17457649
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wew lad

>> No.17457694

>>17457649
oh shit

>> No.17457742

>>17457649
Giving it away early is disappointing

>> No.17457761

>>17457649
Stop translating my kamige REEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.17457817

>>17457649
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SWEET HOME TRANSLATION, JAST? IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN FOUR YEARS.

>> No.17457833
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>>17457817
No nee-san tiddies for you

>> No.17457935

>>17456522

If there really wasn't anything, he'd probably just say no.

>> No.17457944

>>17456739

Do you have a source on that planet dragon thing? I know Aroduc said they were talking with them re: bunny black 3, but otherwise that seems like a real longshot

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>>17457649

>> No.17459719

>>17457944
Their hint about rockets and sci-fi in this years hints. It's one of the more realistic things they could license that could fit those hints, especially since it's known they were in talks with its dev. Nothing else they've licensed so far this year has involved rockets.

>> No.17459738

>>17457935
He'd just say that they can't confirm anything at the moment, especially if they were still in talks and might be able to get something later on or not.

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>>17459738
You're talking about this company

>> No.17459806

>>17459777
Usually they just say they have no plans at this time for specific titles. But then you get last minute addition announcements like W Happiness, which contract the previous denials. And for BL they may have been in talks at the time, but didn't have anything they've made an official deal on yet.

>> No.17459879

>>17459719
You fucked up anon.

>> No.17459905

>>17457944
That's an overly charitable interpretation of the situation.

It was about Bunny Black 2, nothing happened more than an e-mail, Softhouse Chara said they weren't interested at the time, and Aroduc wasn't interested in working with MG on it because they jerked him around when he talked to them about Softhouse Chara before, and waited until he was almost finished before springing it on him that they were "talking" about licensing it.

>> No.17459927

>>17459905
Hi Aroduc. None of this info is public, so it has to be you.

>> No.17459942

>>17459905
It was when people were asking about BB3. Aroduc said one of the reasons he wasn't working on it was because MG was in talks in Softhouse Chara.

>> No.17459957

>>17459927
But Aroduc killed himself, anon.

>> No.17459983

>>17459957
Aroduc now just anon posts about other people in the vn industry to shit talk them to raise unrest. It's a revenge tactic.

>> No.17460003

So what other sci-fi vns with rockets could MG realistically license?

>> No.17460041

Will MG livestream their presentation? Where can I watch it if that's the case?

>> No.17460047

>>17459927
> Aroduc wasn't interested in working with MG on it because they jerked him around when he talked to them about Softhouse Chara before
>None of this info is public

Uh

>> No.17460062

Did Otakon go full censor mode too?

https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/895812932294070272

>> No.17460067

>>17460062
They became as retarded as AX, eh?

>> No.17460068

>>17460047
Post source.

>> No.17460077

>>17460067
Looks like it.
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/895814430960832514

>> No.17460085

>>17460077
Replies to that seem to imply it's voluntary

>> No.17460104

>>17460085
>We just have a ton of boobies this year. By boxing in, we create more real-estate and we don't have to cover up.

They're making it more normie friendly.

>> No.17460111

>>17460104
>normie

>> No.17460123

>>17460111
Gotta highlight all their story vns and their BL and otome titles. All ages waifu images are allowed too.

>> No.17460206

>>17459983
His revenge is to tell people that MG isn't licensing a game nobody wants, from a company nobody cares about?

>> No.17460208

>>17456064
If Yuuki autist doesnt release a patch I'm ending it

>> No.17460228

>>17460208
If Yuuki autist doesn't release a patch, he should be downgraded to Yuki autist instead.

>> No.17460257

>>17460123
He's point out that you are a normalfag yourself because you used normie instead of normalfag.

>> No.17460266

>>17460206
I think that anon is referring to the threads over the past month+ which devolved into arguing over Aroduc vs Doddler, along with high hints of what seemed to be insider information that only Aroduc (or at least someone on his team) could know.

>> No.17460272

>>17460206
His revenge is to make them sound unprofessional by claiming that they just jerked him around while "talks" with Softhouse Chara went nowhere.

>> No.17460295

>>17460272
He posted that two years ago. It's already obvious they went nowhere.

>> No.17460304

>>17460295
He just said that it might not be the next year, he never said talks went nowhere.

>> No.17460309

>>17460304
The only one who said talks went nowhere is >>17460272

>> No.17460315

>>17460295
How long did Minatosoft take? 2 years might not even be considered talking-level yet.

>> No.17460324

>>17460295
That's not how talks with Japanese devs go. It usually takes years to convince some of them. Look at Alicesoft, Key, and Giga.

>> No.17460341

>>17460324
>>17460315
If it's false, then how is it insider information?

>> No.17460513

>>17460341
It's not insider info. It's Aroduc being annoying. He wouldn't be part of talks anyway.

>> No.17460521

Fata Morgana devs new project has a website.

http://novect.net/narkarma/

>> No.17460551

>>17460521
Is this the thing the devs are giving to Sekai?

>> No.17460566

>>17460551
https://youtu.be/mIWHNbscIwE

To answer my own question...

>> No.17460592

>>17460566
I think Fata Morgana's initial low sales caused them to look for other publishers.

>> No.17460606

>>17460592
Pity since the concept looks interesting and Sekai translators are incompetent.

>> No.17460619

>>17460513
Everything is Aroduc, isn't it?

>> No.17460626

>>17431711
Tokyo Dark out on September 7th.
https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/895484873770586112

>> No.17460627

>>17460619
Aroduc is the new "Japanese developers made us do it."

>> No.17460652

>>17460626
Not a VN.

>> No.17460656

>>17460592
Novectacle had interacted with Sekai in the past and want to run a kickstarter
Sales probably didn't even factor into it.

>> No.17460662

>>17460606
Not at all. This time it will be a RPG game with visual novel elements, plus a planned console release. You can see how SP can offer better resources here, hell they could be planing a KS to cover development cost.

>> No.17460671

>>17460656
>want to run a kickstarter

Novectacle said the exact opposite.

>> No.17460681

>>17460652
It looks like a VN with gameplay.

>Branching story with 10 different endings
>4 to 6 hours per path

And it has visual novel segments. If The Silver Case is a vn, then so is this.

>> No.17460691

>>17460681
VNDB admins decide what's a VN and what isn't, buddy. It's not there. >>17460521 is.

>> No.17460692

>>17460671
Shut up, Aroduc. That's insider information.

>> No.17460698

>>17460691
Doesn't that just mean that no one created a page for it yet? It's an indie project after all.

>> No.17460730

It's probably just that Novectacle and Alice in Dissonance are friends

>> No.17460759

>>17460521
Their music is always impressive.

>> No.17460768

I think I found out what one of Fruitbat Factory's upcoming projects is.

https://twitter.com/StudioBeast1/status/895207788980297728

>> No.17460778

Aroduc did nothing wrong

>> No.17460796

>>17460768
Surely there's a bunch of perfectly good all ages games they could pick up instead

>> No.17460802

>>17460778
That's private information that nobody could know.

>> No.17460873

>>17459905
Aroduc approached a number of companies about releasing Bunny Black, including MG. Softhouse Chara stated they had no interest releasing titles outside of Japan when approached though.

>> No.17460890

>>17460873
Please don't lie.

>> No.17460892

>>17460873
Now that Alicesoft's gameplay titles have started to make major bank, they may have changed their tune.

>> No.17460894

>>17460796
What do you mean? Everyone knows eroge have high sales and are popular because of their all-ages content. It is just that you can't really max this popularity without going on Steam.

>> No.17460906

>>17460890
It's not a lie if the number of companies is one.

>> No.17460960

>>17460890
I'm sure Aroduc would tell you everyone he asks to do things does absolutely nothing at all, but it's not true. Aroduc saw working with an official company as one way to surmount the technical issues in the game. Doddler asked MG staff, MG met with Softhouse Chara at an industry event, and were turned down. I know for a fact Aroduc also approached Jast (and maybe others) and likely got a similar response.

Similar situation happened before with Romanesque, before Aroduc pulled the kickstarter card and got Jast to take another shot. None of this is really new information though.

>> No.17460972

>>17460960
Companies can change their mind at the drop of a hat though. Like if X title does well, then they think their title can do that well too.

>> No.17461004

>>17460960
Literally nothing in this post is true.

>> No.17461010

>>17461004
Cunningham's Law is abused heavily in vntls.

>> No.17461012

When's the Otakon thread gonna go up?

>> No.17461016

>>17460768
>Episode 1
Trashed instantly without even google translating the tweet

>> No.17461019

>>17461010
"the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer.".
I despise this. It just leads to people believing the made up info.

>> No.17461021

>>17460972
That's true, I suppose it could still happen. Personally I wouldn't count on it though, Softhouse Chara to me at least seem like they're very comfortable in their indie-like position and don't really have an interest in moving out of that space, including other markets.

>> No.17461028

>>17461012
If this thread dies before the panel, I'll make another thread with "Otakon's VN conference" name on it.

>> No.17461041

>>17460730
This

>> No.17461054

>>17460960
>>17461004
This makes me think it was written by a Sekai Project drone since it's the main reason why he ended up in contact with them on Baldr Sky, but is a completely inaccurate understanding of both Bunny Black and Romanesque's situations, since they had no technical issues at all.

>> No.17461066

>>17461054
It was DxS.

>> No.17461074

Please let Iwaihime get localized

>> No.17461081

>>17461074
>No Sexual Content 2.0
"no"

>> No.17461094

>>17461081
Is the chances that slim? Thought it had a pretty good chance seeing how Umineko and Higurashi are pretty popular.

>> No.17461103

>>17461074
>Iwaihime
Yess I want to read it so badly

>> No.17461108

>>17461094
No as in you can keep that all-ages crap.

>> No.17461153

>>17461019
No one is going to be helpful for nothing. They need motivation whether it be money or the smug sense of satisfaction from correcting someone wrong.

>> No.17461305

I wonder if we'll ever see Bunny Black localized.
And if it does end up localized somehow. I wonder if it would be possible to involve Aroduc.

>> No.17461391

>>17461305
It's already localized. What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.17461439

>>17461391
It's been translated. It hasn't really ever been localized to any region outside of Japan.
And technically, simply putting something on the internet would be opposite of "localization" since it'd be just about the furthest you could get from making something "local". In that sense it'd be more accurate to call Bunny Black globalized or something. Though it still hasn't been official and it hasn't been part of any market.

I want to be able to purchase a real copy of the translation. Preferably in my own market.

>> No.17461447

>>17461439
Then paypal $5 to Aroduc and $25 to Softhouse Chara.

>> No.17461511

>>17461447
>Then paypal $5 to Aroduc
Fuck no. Only if he comes back.

>> No.17461516

>>17461447
That wouldn't really give me an actual localized copy of the games though.

>> No.17461559

>>17461511
He's not coming back. That's what dead means.

>> No.17461703

>>17460551
I don't know about SP, but the fata morgana writer had a rant in twitter about how unfair Japanese publishers are with the author royalties.

>> No.17461727

>>17461703
It's true. It's also true about royalties in general there. Voice actors get fucked over as well.

>> No.17461742

>Dies irae - Released, uncut patch upcoming
RIP

>> No.17461747

>>17461559
Doddler and DxS could keep blaming him for Baldr Sky. I bet that'd make him come back.

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>>17460592
Who knows? MG initially cucked Fata from SP so it's possible that they're just going with SP this time to extend the initial courtesy that Sekai gave them. Novectacle has also expressed an interest in crowdfunding post-Fata I believe. Either way, it's kind of a shame if they can't at least get the Fata localization team on this same product - Fata's TL is honestly one of the more polished one's I've read (even if the translator is a huge faggot) and some consistency with the same writer would go a long way. Still, it should be interesting. I believe Novectacle initially wanted to do a TRPG as their studio's first title anyway, as their entire team, from the writer, to the artist, and even the singer all met through their passion for D&D. Bit disappointed that their primary artist isn't working on it, though.

>> No.17461858

>>17461742
It'll come out before the anime. R-right?

>> No.17461863

>>17461858
September.

>> No.17462009

>>17461858
maybe e

>> No.17462015

>>17461858
ven after anime

>> No.17462156

How much have VNs evolved graphically and technologically in the past 10 years? How often do you have to upgrade your computer?
Dal Segno makes my computer heat up dramatically even though it's pretty new.

>> No.17462339

>>17462156
Circus's engine is pretty rough.. there's a reason literally every other game translated into English from them has been ported. I think the only reason they finally decided to update the engine to support English was because of their plans for Space Live.

Gotta remember that some of these companies are pretty old and have been continually building up on top of 10-20 year old systems. The engine moonstone uses for example lists stuff like the early pia carrot games. "Can Can Bunny 1 Primo" is the oldest game that used the engine, released in 1997.

>> No.17462423

Will the Otakon be streamed?

>> No.17462474

>>17462339
Makes sense. Moonstone's engine is so fucking shitty that it lags like hell as soon there is something animated. Wish they would fix it

>> No.17462512

Is Mangagamers packages discreet? How long is the shipping going to take?

>> No.17462517

>>17462512
>discreet
Ahahaha. Sorry, mate.

>> No.17462519

If Aroduc had an axe to grind against anybody, wouldn't it be Sekai Project or Jast, not Mangagamer?

>> No.17462521

>>17462156
Laptops should be replaced every 3-5 years.

>> No.17462533

>>17462519
He blames the entire vn scene, especially his team like Doddler, for not taking his side over the Baldr Sky incident.

>> No.17462562

>>17459983
Hello Doddler

>> No.17462634

>>17462533
I still find it funny it has gone 12 months or more and Sekai has still not managed to strike a deal for the adult version. So why did they ditch Aroduc so fast? Are they going to do all-ages first, then see if they can do 18+ a few years later?

Hello G-Senjou episode 2.

>> No.17462675

>>17462634
>So why did they ditch Aroduc so fast?
Ditch? They never had any intentions to play ball to begin with.

>> No.17462730

>>17462512
European here (Portugal). Last time I shipped something from MG it took about two weeks and was marked as a gift. If anyone looks inside the package they'll immediately see the game you ordered.

>> No.17462762

>>17461747
Let the dead lie in peace. He's had a good run.

>> No.17462778

>>17461747
Perhaps if Sekai Project dies. Aroduc would get a boost of energy again and feel better.
Either way I wish him the best of luck. Whether or not he decides to ever return or quit forever. I really do miss him though. Especially since Bunny Black 3 was never touched upon.

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Haro, are you here? I have a question.
Can I pay with paypal in the MG store? Because I only have a debit card and I can't use it to preorder Bocchi Musume.

>> No.17462855

>>17462833

E-mail support. You probably won't get an answer until Monday though since everyone's out at Ota right now.

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>>17462855
Thanks Haro. Sure I will do in monday.

>> No.17463190

Less than two hours for MG pannel.
As always, follow here: http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php?

>> No.17463240

>>17463190
No, stream it.

>> No.17463386

>>17463190
My guesses
1. Sengoku Rance
2. Supipara
3. Ano Harewataru Sora yori Takaku
4. Sono Hana
5. Room No. 9
6. More fujo

>> No.17463455

Post a link to the Otakon thread if you make one, please.

>> No.17463468

>>17463190
Are they doing it this year? The status message still mentions AX and they haven't done anything yet for Otakon.

>> No.17463473

It probably would be wise to have an Otakon specific thread, as this should last through the MG panel, but I doubt it makes it to the Sekai panel tomorrow.

>> No.17463512

>>17463509

>> No.17464109

>>17459570
Oh shit. Well if JAST puts some Nitroplus titles on Steam and hosts a patch they could get enough sales. I would not mind buying Say No It's all over again.

>> No.17465031 [DELETED] 

>>17461727
>Voice actors get fucked over as well.

What? The cost of the Japanese voices is one of the biggest expenses. Well, that's what Peter said anyway. They frequently want something like $100k even if VN sales can't support that. That's according to Peter Payne.

>> No.17465038

>>17461727
What? The cost of the Japanese voices is one of the biggest expenses. They frequently want something like $100k even if VN sales can't support that. That's according to Peter Payne.

>> No.17465574

>>17457833
I think the worst fucking part is that someone else other than them could have already translated this piece by now if they didn't stake an empty claim on the title. It's honestly criminal, that game was quite nice for its time.

>> No.17465598

>>17465574
Not really, the vast majority of VNs dont get translated so there's a damn good chance it woulda remained untl'd forever.

>> No.17465615

> MG licensing Luna Soft
Did anyone play their more recent titles?
Older stuff I played was complete and utter garbage. They have semi-nice art, but everything else is so bad that I'm very surprised they stayed afloat for so long.

>> No.17465799

>>17465615
They're not particularly good, no. But compared to other really bad gameplay titles MG has... maybe not terrible.

>> No.17466165

>>17465038
The voice actors themselves are getting peanuts and all the money is going to the agencies.

>> No.17466605

Why couldn't MG atleast give us a project status update?

>> No.17466733

>>17466605
They might skip this week due to being busy.

>> No.17467024

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/896125993613578241

Oops. Doddler accidentally revealed that Sekai Project lies about what Kickstarters are actually for so they can lie about costs. Good job, Doddler.

>> No.17467081

>>17431711
Secret Project 1 for MG is Maidens of Michael.

https://curiouscat.me/Good_Haro/post/192541900?t=1502507039

>> No.17467655

>>17467024
Sekai has a history of lying. If they haven't learned by now, it's their fault if they're retarded enough to give Sekai their hard-earned money. Nobody will feel sorry for you.

>> No.17467692

>>17466605
They could at least update the minori fundraising page. I'm curious what Ch. 3 would cost (not that it'll ever happen but still...)

>> No.17467722

>>17467692
It was shown on the stream.

>> No.17468431

>>17467692
Someone said 350k I think? Which sounds reasonable for making an entirely new game (compared to the 200k for just translating one)

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>>17468431
Well, the way they formatted it suggest that it's 350K for the fund-raising (so 150K more for each chapter). which is insane.

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