Bernkastel-chan is unbelievably cute. Does anyone else like Bernkastel?

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Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:02:50 2008 No.1734993 [Reply] [Original]

Bernkastel-chan is unbelievably cute. Does anyone else like Bernkastel?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:03:44 2008 No.1734998 Not in the least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:05:30 2008 No.1735013 Bernkastel>Rika

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Mon Dec 8 20:05:36 2008 No.1735017 Deadpan moe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:06:44 2008 No.1735019 >>1735013 USODA.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:07:54 2008 No.1735023 >>1735019 Bernkastel>>Rika

>>	Anonymous of Austria Mon Dec 8 20:08:53 2008 No.1735028 I like her appearance, but from the novel itself, I like Lamba much more. Maybe she'll grow on me when she actually does something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:13:05 2008 No.1735044 File: 166 KB, 640x480, 1228767185253.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1735023

Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:15:48 2008 No.1735057
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>>1735028
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>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:16:28 2008 No.1735059 Rika > Bernkastel

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:17:03 2008 No.1735063 looks like /jp/ is quite enjoying umineko

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:17:21 2008 No.1735064 >>1735044 >>1735059 Bernkastel>>>Rika

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:17:47 2008 No.1735068 >>1735028 What's actually likable about ΛΔ anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:18:37 2008 No.1735073 Bernkastel=Rika

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:20:07 2008 No.1735081 >>1735068 tsuntsun

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:20:16 2008 No.1735080 File: 38 KB, 295x600, 1228767616365.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:21:04 2008 No.1735087 >>1735081 Lambda is a yandere, not a tsundere. You'll see at the end of episode 3

>>	Anonymous of Austria Mon Dec 8 20:21:04 2008 No.1735086 >>1735068 Every single word that escapes her mouth.

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:21:40 2008 No.1735085 File: 58 KB, 414x750, 1228767700218.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1735073 Rika is effectively Bernkastel in a human body. Rika is more loli though and thus superior.

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>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:22:03 2008 No.1735096 >>1735081 I wouldn't consider that to be an asset, but I guess your mileage may differ. Let's not forget though that she's also a sadistic bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:22:16 2008 No.1735090 >>1735063 We can, until the trolls decide to have their own fun >>1735068 Tsundora!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:23:52 2008 No.1735100 >>1735087 lol I don't know but she actually says "tsuntsun" during the coronation

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:24:12 2008 No.1735105 File: 19 KB, 503x285, 1228767852282.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So she's described as looking like a young woman and has a big rack, while 34 looks like a kid compared to Takano. Are they supposed to be of simmilar age?

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:24:39 2008 No.1735107 >>1735087 I'd say she's both. Bern and Beato both call her a tsundere after all.

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None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:26:00 2008 No.1735115

>>1735105
Both are said to be 1000 years old. Presumably they were both born from Higurashi, ΛΔ being the personification of its rules (x, y, z) and presumably being born out of Takano's insanely strong will and Bern being born out of Rika repeating the worlds for 1000 years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:28:18 2008 No.1735122 >>1735107 Yeah but she doesn't hide her feelings for Bern at all at the end of episode 3. But she becomes so fucking scary with her obsession of Bern as even Beato ends up being scared shitless

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:28:30 2008 No.1735124 >>1735115 How could she be "the strongest witch of the universe" before being beaten by Bernkastel if she didn't even exist before it?

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Mon Dec 8 20:29:24 2008 No.1735131 File: 124 KB, 800x1015, 1228768164219.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Super-paper moe~

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:29:33 2008 No.1735132 >>1735124 well I think only bern was born from higurashi

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:29:57 2008 No.1735134 >>1735124 I don't know. However both are said to be 1000 years old in their character profiles. Ask Ryukishi07 how he reconciles that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:30:33 2008 No.1735138 >>1735124 The witches exist beyond space and time. There's no "before" or "after".

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:31:55 2008 No.1735147 >>1735132 There's the fact ΛΔ says she sympathizes with Eva in ep 3 because the latter had struggled her entire life to achieve her goal. One could say that this is due to Takano having undergone the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:33:19 2008 No.1735154 File: 254 KB, 552x516, 1228768399969.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1735131 Beato>Virgilia>Lambda>Bern>Eva-Beatrice also MOE Virgilia for you

>>	Anonymous of Austria Mon Dec 8 20:33:47 2008 No.1735157 File: 126 KB, 640x480, 1228768427599.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1735131 Since I knew already about the goat head end in EP2, she saved it by making ??? awesome.

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>>	Anonymous of Austria Mon Dec 8 20:36:20 2008 No.1735177 >>1735147 but who says that Takano was her first?

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>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:37:25 2008 No.1735183 >>1735177 True, but there's the fact the game says she's the same age as Bernkastel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:37:38 2008 No.1735185 >>1735134 >34 FFFFFFFFFFF

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:38:04 2008 No.1735190 File: 32 KB, 600x400, 1228768684481.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mackerels again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:39:48 2008 No.1735195 >>1735190 this thread is now incredibily mackarel

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:39:58 2008 No.1735197 >>1735147 This could be reconciled with Takano being Lambda's "in game avatar" during higurashi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:40:03 2008 No.1735206 >>1735190 this thread is now incredibly "mackarel"

>>	Anonymous of Austria Mon Dec 8 20:41:22 2008 No.1735211 >>1735197 We could say that both Bernkastel and ΛΔ don't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:42:55 2008 No.1735215 >>1735211 Oh hi Battler

CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Mon Dec 8 20:43:22 2008 No.1735220
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Frederica Bernkastel !v2ZzB3dtms Mon Dec 8 20:45:26 2008 No.1735235
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Bernkastel is the most graceful, cute and charming character I've ever seen in my entire life. I really can't wait for more of here in the later parts of ep3 (now please don't crush this dream of mine).

>>1735124
Is there any confirmation that Lambda was trapped in the same way as Bern? If !nipaa's claim is correct, the only explanation I can think of is Lambda getting herself "famous" while Bern struggles with that only game.

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:49:00 2008 No.1735258 >>1735235 There's no reason to think ΛΔ was 'trapped' in the game. After all, she was the one pulling most of the strings.

Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:49:51 2008 No.1735257

>>1735235
No confirmation as of yet

Some people think she was born from Miyo just like Bern was from Rika

!Nipaa thinks she is the embodiment of Higurashi's rules rather then a "persona"

I personally think she existed beforehand, and in addition to making and presiding over the gameboard she also "made" Takano Miyo as a mortal reflection of herself to use as her king on the chess board

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:51:46 2008 No.1735268 >>1735257 Your theory is something I considered as well. How do you reconcile ΛΔ existing before Higurashi with the fact that she's said to be as old as Bern?

>>	Anonymous of Austria Mon Dec 8 20:53:10 2008 No.1735275 >>1735268 Did Ryukishi ever say something else for the witches other than "1000 years old"?

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:55:03 2008 No.1735297 >>1735275 Rika used to call herself a 100 year-old witch in Higurashi.

None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 20:55:13 2008 No.1735292

Also, Bernkastel was created from Rika because Hanyuu transferred Rika's memories from all the worlds to the higher dimension where they ended up becoming self-aware. Since Droopy didn't have a god helping her, I think ΛΔ being the embodiment of the rules of Higurashi (but influenced by Droopy since she was pivotal in the setup of Higurashi) in the same way that Beatrice is said by Bernkastel to be the personification of the rules of Umineko.

Frederica Bernkastel !v2ZzB3dtms Mon Dec 8 20:56:05 2008 No.1735303

>>1735258
>>1735257
Then for now, I'll stay with my thesis about Lambda acting outside the game while Beatrice acts inside it.

>>1735268
Chances are that witches may be able to manipulate time (with or without outside help). But I honestly don't think Ryukishi07 would put up with that.

Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:57:56 2008 No.1735307

>>1735268
I thought about that too and believe >>1735138 makes the best point. It fits in with what Beato boasts about "Endless Witches being those that have transcended the concepts of time", as shown by how she can simply make broken objects "remember" how they had been in the past and fuck over temporal causality.

Besides even if 34 and Bern were born at the same time. Higurashi takes place in 83, add to that the 100 loop and then consider Umineko takes place in 86. Thats a total of 106 years if you claim they have to follow the same rules of time as everyone else. And it explicitly states they are both a thousand years old so the numbers don't match up

Anonymous Mon Dec 8 20:58:53 2008 No.1735313

Witches exist outside of time and space, so "1000 years" could just mean "1000 years worth of experience," it doesn't necessarily mean that they were around 1000 years before the game takes place. Of course, that's assuming that they exist in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:00:00 2008 No.1735330 >>1735292 I hope this is bullshit, because it sounds too retarded even for Umineko craziness.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:00:18 2008 No.1735325 >>1735307 >106 years bah my math is off, 100 + 3 (86 - 83) = 103

None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 21:01:41 2008 No.1735333

>>1735307
But the worlds of Umineko are separate from those of Higurashi. After all, the story of Higurashi is a fictional work in Umineko. Since the witches exist outside of these world, it's easy to think that they've spent centuries doing other things between the two games.

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 21:03:32 2008 No.1735347 >>1735330 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:03:32 2008 No.1735348 >>1735333 like preventing boredom

Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:08:28 2008 No.1735366

>>1735333
That could very well be true, but if Higurashi and Umineko are different worlds with centuries in between then in "witch years" but still have the human world timestamps of 83 and 86 respectively that also reaffirms that witches exist outside a linear view of time. Which doesn't invalidate not validate either of our theories, guess we just have to wait for more canonical info

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon Dec 8 21:11:48 2008 No.1735381 >>1735366 We already knew from Higurashi that Bernkastel (and presumably ΛΔ) existed for 100 years in the period around 1983. Assuming that the same thing applies to Umineko doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:11:57 2008 No.1735383 >>1735347 Because it sound like some incredibly bad fanfic made by some uninspired teenager trying to tie up his favorite series in one universe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:15:57 2008 No.1735417 >>1735383 It's called Nasuverse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:35:17 2008 No.1735517 >>1735383 this is called a troll

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 8 21:35:56 2008 No.1735521 >>1735417 Ryukishi07 isn't so far from Nasu when it comes to writing level, it seems.

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