/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How come Japanese people don't like FPS?

[Anonymous No.]

They have taste.

Well, not really. Just a modicum of it. Enough to know that FPS is a shit genre.

[Anonymous No.]

Bah, not moe enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729917
Somebody sucked at goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.]

They were never good at gun warfare
They end up crashing planes or attacking with swords

[Anonymous No.]

Good question. I have no idea. I do know that not all PFS games are created equally though, and some of them they may enjoy more than others. I would imagine their least favorite FPS are the highly competitive, frantic pace FPS games that require pinpoint precision like Quake 3. I'm sure games like Bioshock and Half Life 2 rate better in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729917

Then why are there so many nicovideos of Japanese playing TF2?

[Anonymous No.]

that pyro is an abomination. it should of tried to look exactly like the normal one.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

The majority of FPS are simply bad games. They're also on par with MMORPGs in the challenge aspect, which doesn't appeal to Japanese gamer tastes.

They like their games to have Lunatic difficulty, not the very easy/casual difficulty found in FPS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729920

Goldeneye was shit though. Even when Goldeneye was released, we had better FPS on the PC for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729941
Nigger never played Perfect Dark on dat six tripple. Was SO cash

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729937
Quake was pretty hard on hell mode

[Anonymous No.]

Hey there.

[Anon of Neo-Russia No.]

>>1729911

why is soldier 2ch.ru-tan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729937

If they like really hard games, why didn't they get into playing Q3 OSP or CPMA? Have you ever seen pro or high level clan matches of q3? It's insane. The split-second timing at high level play easily equals the most difficult shooters Japan has.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone else besides me really turned on by the spy?

[Anonymous No.]

Surely they'd love to play Scoot. DODGAN BULLETS, BEATAN HAVIES, LUNATIC MODE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729917
>FPS is a shit genre.
This

[Anonymous No.]

Though perhaps not W+MOUSE1. This thread is now /jp/ related.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

They'd rather fap than go PEW PEW PEW

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anon of Neo-Russia No.]

GENTLEMEN.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>1729992
But they make Tohou GTA skins...

[Anon of Neo-Russia No.]

>>1730020

is the GTA series the only American game the Japanese play?

[Anon of Neo-Russia No.]

>>1730036

other than ES.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729920

Goldeneye, Serious Sam and ROTT are the only 3 FPSs I've ever played and enjoyed. If not for them, I'd say FPS as a genre sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729937
Hardly. The Japs like grinding game that allow them to play at a slow pace. Why do you think JRPGs are so popular over there?

[Anonymous No.]

I'd love to see a Japanese player go up against players at this level. Not sure why they never did. You can't say it's not hard playing someone 1v1 that is far better than you. It teaches you quick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPfaQJuWGvU&feature=related

[Megane of Ceremony !!Acix1go1OeZ No.]

I heard FPS is not that a famous genre over there because a lot of players get motion sickness.

Well, if you aren't used to it....

[Anonymous No.]

An anime FPS would be awesome. Too bad the only one ever was Shogo

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729911
Grenade laucher-tan is hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730054
Motion sickness? Really? Damn, thats lame.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Japanese people enjoy FEAR?

[Anonymous No.]

FPS's are for graphics whores. It must be the least evolved genre out there that's still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

Because guns and violence aren't as big a part of their culture as they are in the US. Pretty much the number one comment on Japanese BBSs concerning the genre is "Americans just want to shoot each other." Guns are big in America, but they are not in Japan. Even if you look at other types of games in Japan, there is more emphasis on characters who fight hand-to-hand or with older weapons like swords.

Also because Japanese players prefer more thinking in their games and FPSs tend to be fairly brainless. In an RPG you have to learn how the stats work and develop your character(s) properly, in fighters you have to memorize move lists, in scrolling shooters there is much more emphasis on memorization than in FPSs, and in adventure games you have to make smart decisions and usually try to figure out how to get the paths you want. In an FPS, pretty much all you do is run around pointing at things and clicking them; getting better at the game comes almost entirely from nurturing reflexes, not thinking smarter about things.

Beyond all that, there's the usual aversion to foreign things. Consumers in Japan buy a higher percentage of domestic products than most other countries.

[Anonymous No.]

http://kotaku.com/5013798/why-first-and-third-person-shooters-are-not-popular-in-japan

>"The games seem difficult."

n00bs. Worried about getting pwned online by Germans and Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730103

>Because guns and violence aren't as big a part of their culture as they are in the US.

Huge fucking cop-out is HUGE.

RPGs have tons of violence. Just take a look at FF-VII, Persona 3, and Tales of Vesperia to name a few.
Also, aren't Japanese shooters filled with projectile violence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729992
That engineer reminds me of reverse trap Peach. I love being reminded of reverse trap Peach, thank you.

Also, http://rapidshare.com/files/171243830/Super_Mario_Comic.rar

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730103
depends on the fps

note that some rpgs are mindless clicking
diablo for one

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730103
Japanese love their airsoft.

[Anonymous No.]

>Also because Japanese players prefer more thinking in their games and FPSs tend to be fairly brainless. In an RPG you have to learn how the stats work and develop your character(s) properly, in fighters you have to memorize move lists, in scrolling shooters there is much more emphasis on memorization than in FPSs, and in adventure games you have to make smart decisions and usually try to figure out how to get the paths you want. In an FPS, pretty much all you do is run around pointing at things and clicking them; getting better at the game comes almost entirely from nurturing reflexes, not thinking smarter about things.

Orly? So you think you could beat me on pro-q3tourney4 if I've memorized all the armor and mega health timings and if I'm able to run the map based on those timings while knowing exactly where you are at all times so I can make prediction rocket shots and snap-rails?

Don't fucking tell me there's no memorization or skill in FPS games. I would rape you every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730133
OK, remove the "and violence" part. The point is, there are games in Japan with guns, but they are much less common than they are in the US, even to the point of inserting characters in modern or futuristic settings who fight with their fists or swords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730167
Except that Diablo is an American game.

[Anonymous No.]

Gun-Katana.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>1730073
Nobody enjoyed FEAR.

Though Alma is moe.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>1730180

Sure is /v/ in here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730180I would rape you every fucking time.
Jesus Christ, gb2/v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730202
>>1730204

Simply stating a fact to prove the logical fallacy in his argument. It's still quite in line with the topic of this thread.

Also, cry moar.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT we're japanese

o wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730180
Guess you missed the part about "nurturing reflexes." Getting good at FPSs is about having twitch skills and honing reflexes, not thinking.

Your attitude is part of the problem they have with American-style competition as well. Even in fighting games (rare example of direct competition in Japan), they are generally respectful of their opponents, not "I would rape you every fucking time. DURR HURR HEADSHOT PWNED."

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730070
>>1729980
>>1729937
>>1729917
sure is troll in here

>>1729980
>>1729917
also samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730227

Yeah and I bet they don't hold huge lan parties either....

Such a shame.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>1730167
Except that Diablo is not an RPG, but an Action Adventure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730227

>Getting good at FPSs is about having twitch skills and honing reflexes, not thinking.

I still disagree. Honing reflexes is a large part of it, but if you don't have total mastery over the engine and the timing aspects of the game mechanics while keeping track of where your enemy is, you'll still lose. In FPS competitive play you must have important timers counting down in the back of your mind while you think a few seconds ahead about where your opponent should be. Trust me, having the best reflex skills in the world still won't help you if you're facing someone able to "run the map" and able to predict where you are all the time. They will shoot off a rail or a rocket even before they see you so it connects a second or two later.

In the end, any game skill is learned. It doesn't matter what genre it is.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>1730316
>>someone able to "run the map" and able to predict where you are all the time.

If we're gonna judge all this by the amount of effort needed to anticipate your opponent's moves (or "being psychic") then they still don't compare to fighting games.

FPS games are a weaksauce genre. This is something I can safely say after years of playing all game genres to their fullest.

[Anonymous No.]

The FPS genre is inherently too masculine. Just look at the characters in most popular japanese games, it's pretty self-explanatory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730350

Hey, it's better than playing Madden.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to playing games to have fun and not show off flimsy superiority to people because they play genres you consider inferior?

[Anonymous No.]

Keep in mind much of the skill component in FPS comes from teamwork as well. Even if the mechanics were basic as hell (lol point and click example) a team with good strategy will totally destroy a bunch of disorganized rable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729911
It's in their genes.

The whole slanted-eye thing idiots tend to mock them for?

Makes them more susceptible to motion sickness and seizure, that's why they had to gank that one episode of Pokemon after it made a whole bunch of kids have to go to the hospital.

I tend to be amazed when I find stuff out like the small Gears of War following they have over there.

That and stuff like Nounanka's S.T.A.L.K.E.R. pictures or that one artist's 4-koma about Gears of War and Crysis or even the Wakamoto suit voiceover for Crysis.

[Anonymous No.]

Jap here, I can't speak for all of us but I just never really had fun with fps'. I play more for the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730533
You're on 4chan.

Everyone is elitist here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730577
Oh, and motion sickness was never a problem for me, though I can definitely see how some people might.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730560
If they had played the seizure episode in the U.S., there would have been many more seizures, and the shear magnitude of the lawsuits may have threatened Nintendo of America.
❥ Nintendo ❥
http://rapidshare.com/files/171243830/Super_Mario_Comic.rar

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730577
Are you saying first person shooters don't have a story? In Doom there's this experiment, yeah, but it goes wrong! And Half-Life often gets praised for its story, where there's this experiment but, and get this, it goes wrong.

And the sequel builds on this even more with psychobabble and a reeeally big tower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730616
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that I didn't like the gameplay of fps', and I've played Half life 2 and all of it's expansions as well.

[4tran No.]

>>1730616
Deus Ex and its sequel were renown for their stories. They are supposed to be very immersive games, though I have yet to play either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730630
>Deus Ex, I have yet to play
DO IT NOW FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730630
I don't know about the sequel, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730630

Not so much the sequel, but the original game was amazing, even now.

[Anonymous No.]

A week ago I was playing TF2 and there was some Jap on the server and his UN was "*something* 男" and he was a heavy, I was a medic. So I had a kritzkrieg ready and I thought I'd be slick and give him the Kritz and tell him before hand so I go "Otoka! Go!" and the fucking assholes says to me "it's Otoko, idiot".
I fucking hate playing with Japs.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese FPS

[Anonymous No.]

FPS don't have any interesting stories. Or in other words, you don't play them for the story and Deus Ex is not really a FPS but a mission based adventure game with fps and rpg elements.
And q3 was really awesome. Running wild at the speed of light, haunting your prey across the map with your 3rd eye focusing on the timings is just undescribable. You won't feel that exitement in any other game. P E R I O D \thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730834

Fuck yeah, q3 railguns.

[Anonymous No.]

Because evey game is about ww2 and how the US killed and beat the evil japs and germans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730789

Turn based fps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730789
>S.RPG

It's right there, in bold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1729917
Taste ? yea, thats why the produce over 9000 flash "games" that is about raping schoolgirls

[Anonymous No.]

ITT people who don't have machines capable of running TF2 or L4D

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730882
Yeah, it's already been said they have pretty good taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730888
>TF2
a 486 can run TF2.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to think there is some planning and skill involved in some FPS. For example, there's Left 4 Dead, which might as well be an active battle RPG with 4 human players.

I'm serious about this.

[Anonymous No.]

They love FPSs, look on nico for TF2, COD4, etc and you usually find plenty of hits.

They just can't play on them for 6+ hours a day like the 14 year olds over here because of motion sickness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730895
>a pentium 4 with 6600GT can run TF2.
Enjoy your 1FPS in dx8 mode with everything turned down

[Anonymous No.]

I played on a Japanese L4D server, it was amusing hearing them freak out on the mic when a tank suddenly showed up when we were nearly all dead already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730912

pc or 360?

[Anonymous No.]

why don't the elevens like RTS games? are they afraid of losing to the koreans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1731216
Not well known and not popular.

[Anonymous No.]

Because most Japanese homes don't even have computers, most people still access the interbutt from their phone. Console gaming is a POOR PLATFORM for FPS games, Japanese games market is dominated by console games, mainly platformers a "j"RPGs.

Home computer gaming is the reserve of ronery pedos who fap to little girls being brutally raped and making kawaii noises.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1731240

>Home computer gaming is the reserve of ronery pedos who fap to little girls being brutally raped and making kawaii noises.

Sounds like /jp/ to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1730036
They only like FPS when your character is a giant robot shooting other giant robots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1731318

so...mechwarrior?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1731216
damn I wish they liked the RTS genre a lil more. I love Tactical JRPGs like FFT and Disgaea and really enjoyed Grim Grimoire which is the only JRTS I´ve ever heard about.