AX VN Thread, as the VNTS is dead. Place your bets gentlemen.

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Anonymous Fri Jun 30 02:35:36 2017 No.17256895 [Reply] [Original]

AX VN Thread, as the VNTS is dead.

Place your bets gentlemen.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 02:40:46 2017 No.17256915
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And mine, of course.

Related:
Mangagamer's Hints from earlier this year: http://blog.mangagamer.org/2017/02/13/2017-licensing-survey-results-and-some-hints-too/

One title is conjueror's: https://curiouscat.me/Conjueror/post/165013756?t=1497896832

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 02:52:03 2017 No.17256930

The full set of panels for AX related to visual novels.

Saturday July 1st
The Aksys Games Panel - 2:00pm
MangaGamer: The Now & Future of Visual Novels - 9:30pm

Sunday July 2nd
Visual Novels with Sekai Project & ALICE IN DISSONANCE - 2:00pm
MangaGamer: Itaru Hinoue - Q&A - 7:30pm
Nutaku's Expansion Into the Games! - 8:30pm
Denpasoft: Erecting a Market & the Rise of Adult Gaming - 9:00pm
JAST USA Visual Novel Panel - 9:30pm

Monday July 3rd
Frontwing TV LIVE 2017 - 9:00pm

Tuesday July 4th
MangaGamer: Yamakaze Ran - Q&A - 12:30pm

Additionally, Degica will be at AX, although they do not have a panel planned.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:02:24 2017 No.17256958 File: 270 KB, 1000x1500, axvn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:36:20 2017 No.17257007 Based on twitter an Alicesoft RPG, either Rance or Evenicle seems guaranteed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:37:01 2017 No.17257009 >>17256930 >Nutaku's Expansion Into the Games! - 8:30pm Time for the VN industry to get even more shit

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:40:57 2017 No.17257016

>>17256915
>>17257007
>Based on twitter an Alicesoft RPG, either Rance or Evenicle seems guaranteed.

Ah, I guess I missed arunaru's tweet. I thought that'd be for Otakon but I guess not.

https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/880588476504088576

Surely it's too early for Evenicle?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:16:03 2017 No.17257069 The next Rance game after 6 was Sengoku, and one of MG's "hints" was "a title with a bit of a historical bent", so that's my guess. I'm actually expecting a lot of shit that's already been translated to show up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:22:44 2017 No.17257075 https://twitter.com/watanaberyoichi/status/880665672354811904 If there was any doubt left about who got Harumade, Kururu.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:01:23 2017 No.17257259

https://twitter.com/Blizzaxe/status/880666019169284096
>As of today, I no longer work for Sekai Project. It's been a great run and I'm super grateful for everything they've done for me!
>And to be clear, I'm leaving of my own volition. I'm sorry to go, but I felt it was time to move on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:08:09 2017 No.17257270 Just as a minor note, MG didn't put up a new title for preorder immediately after Dal Segno went on sale so I would expect them to announce the title for late July or Early August at AX (be it an unannounced title or not).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:25:01 2017 No.17257293 Fuck Rance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:33:33 2017 No.17257306 >>17257293 No, fuck me instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:49:48 2017 No.17257333 >>17257069 What is the chance they do a double Rance announcement? Seen some people say they would be disappointed if it was just Sengoku but they could announce both Sengoku and Quest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:51:10 2017 No.17257337 >>17257333 Extremely unlikely. Absolutely nothing indicates Sengoku ever coming over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:52:20 2017 No.17257341 >>17257337 It'd be nice to play it fully translated without random japanese names for the units.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:59:31 2017 No.17257363

>>17257333

I kind of doubt it. There's four announcements, and between them we know that one is probably a moonstone title, one is something conjueror worked on(and I don't think he's read anything by moonstone ever), and one is probably BL since Haro's there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:04:47 2017 No.17257377 >>17257363 Did Rance 5D and VI count as separate announcements last year since they were bundled together afterwards?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:06:45 2017 No.17257383 There is no chance of a bundle for anything bar Rance 01 +2

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:11:24 2017 No.17257390 >>17257363 Has Conj said that he's working on something with MG? Cuz I bet his new game is Harukuru with SP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:14:29 2017 No.17257395 >>17257390 He said he was doing something for mangagamer back in december.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:16:32 2017 No.17257403 >>17257395 Oh, ok then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 09:27:47 2017 No.17257755 https://twitter.com/aquastar831/status/880416591976046595 MangaGamer on their schedule.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 09:39:36 2017 No.17257778

>>17257069
Arunaru did say at one point that he was translating a game that would probably be done by the time it was announced. Rance 01 is one of the shorter games. I heard Blade Briders was pretty short too, but I'm not sure if it fits Arunaru's criteria.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 09:40:15 2017 No.17257779 >>17257778 Blade Briders will never be brought over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:01:30 2017 No.17257846 I dont wanna another shitty rance #95676 crap. Give me Escalayer instead please.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:07:46 2017 No.17257867 >>17257846 It's not happening. Arunaru said a good RPG.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:08:42 2017 No.17257870

>>17257363
Where's the hint that it's something Conjueror worked on?

I suppose it's likely that Itaru will be announcing that she will be working with Overdrive's final game or something West-focused like Go Go Nippon, neither which need to take up an announcement slot.

>>17257333
I think it's possible that AX will be Evenicle and Otakon may be a double Rance announcement, but I doubt it. Even assuming Arunaru did work on some of it while translating Suki Suki, I don't think half of Evenicle could have been done in less than 3 months.

https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/844470974053400577

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:09:56 2017 No.17257877 >>17257867 Well, its not like only Arunaru allowed to translate AliceSoft's games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:11:52 2017 No.17257887 File: 66 KB, 646x612, ax.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17257877 Yeah but the reason we are talking about an Alicesoft game this AX is because Arunaru tweeted this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:14:39 2017 No.17257903 >>17257877 >>17257887 There's also https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/816636790488469504 A good RPG doesn't necessarily need a good story, but his standards are decently high. I don't expect him to lie if he thinks a game is good or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:16:36 2017 No.17257915 >>17257887 I am just complaining. Really cant understand why people love Rance. Played some Rance 6 and it was very boring with shitty gameplay and stupid plot. Ero was very short and unfappable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:17:07 2017 No.17257918 >>17257903 Yeah it is quite obvious that his project is an Alicesoft game and outside of a Rance game the only option is Evenicle. >>17257915 Well that's just your opinion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:18:51 2017 No.17257926 >>17257870 >Where's the hint that it's something Conjueror worked on? >>17256915 >https://curiouscat.me/Conjueror/post/165013756?t=1497896832

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:22:38 2017 No.17257937 >>17257915 It was a pretty solid first person dungeon crawler, but if you hate that type of game, Rance VI won't convince you to like the genre. >>17257926 Thanks. Propeller comes to mind, but I don't know his tastes that well.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:27:33 2017 No.17257954

This is from the email.

On 7/1 (Saturday)
--------------------
4:00PM - 5:20PM Itaru Hinoue will be here at Autograph Session #1!

9:30PM - 11:30PM You can see all of our guests and some of our staff for the 10th Anniversary MangaGamer Panel @ Live Programming #3! We'll be making our announcements here, too, so this one is a must-see!

On 7/2 (Sunday)
--------------------
2:10PM - 3:30PM Yamakaze Ran will be at Autograph Session #1!

4:10PM - 5:30PM Itaru Hinoue will be at Autograph Session #2!

7:30PM - 8:30PM Another big panel, Itaru Hinoue will be at Live Programming 3!

On 7/3 (Monday)
--------------------
Come visit us at the Exhibitor's Hall @ Booth #2423, 2522, 2523!

On 7/4 (Tuesday)
--------------------
10:30AM - 11:50AM Yamakaze Ran will be @ Autograph Session #2

12:30PM - 13:30PM And finally, our Yamazake Ran Panel will be at Live Programming 5!

They seem to be hyping up the Itaru panel, but maybe I'm just overanalyzing it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:33:05 2017 No.17257974 >>17257377 Yes. http://mangagamer.org/announcements/2016.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:34:28 2017 No.17257979 >>17257870 >I don't think half of Evenicle could have been done in less than 3 months. Well he did sukisuki in the span of 7 months whilst also stopping to translate a third of kuroinu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:35:19 2017 No.17257986 >>17257979 Arunaru did not translate Kuroinu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:36:31 2017 No.17257991 >>17257986 He had to translate the rest of part one after Cafe left. Guyzoo took over starting part 2.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:39:08 2017 No.17258003

>>17257986

Anonymous, it is not wise to authoritatively speak on matters you don't know about.

Cafe quit when it was two thirds done and arunaru finished it.

https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/762579220425957376

https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/762579468590264320

https://twitter.com/Aru_Naru/status/765029596852924416

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:39:43 2017 No.17258006 >>17258003 So he translated one ninth of Kuroinu?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:48:22 2017 No.17258040 >>17258006 I remembered it being 70% done when cafe but apparently it was 82% so more like 1/5th.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:30:45 2017 No.17258310 File: 697 KB, 1000x1500, The Great VN Company Race 2017 edition.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another year, another card, another deception.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:37:45 2017 No.17258333 File: 1.44 MB, 1227x738, comrade.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17258310 >Evolimit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:49:23 2017 No.17258391 >>17257259 I heard they was forced to write that. "Moving on" means fired to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 13:11:56 2017 No.17258488 >>17257259 >>17258391 Yes. They were fired.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 13:16:27 2017 No.17258511 So is Sekai firing all their staff an indication of anything or do you think it's just business as usual for them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 13:51:25 2017 No.17258642 >>17258511 Maybe all of the staff fired were useless, and Sekai is becoming a competent business.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 14:08:21 2017 No.17258711

>>17258511
If they are removing some translators, then it would probably be for general cost cutting reasons rather than anything else in light of the weaker market compared to 2015 and early 2016. Someone like MG wouldn't have many translators to let go of just because everything is contracted out to freelancers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 14:34:00 2017 No.17258794 I would like Sekai Project to declare bankruptcy publicly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 14:54:38 2017 No.17258872 JAST is going to reveal Muramasa, fully translated and ready for release. Edited by Moogy

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 15:27:02 2017 No.17258979

Wonder if all the hints listed in the blog spot at the start will be used up for Anime Expo or will some of it still apply for Otakon?

1. More entries in popular series
2. a title with a bit of a historical bent
3. something old
4. something new
5. something borrowed
6. something BLue
7. nan

If each hint doesn't apply for a more than one title, 1 could be Kyonyuu Gaiden and 4 be a new license? 5 is defintely Marina and 6 could be any BL or Lilim's Blue series? 7 is Yaegashi Nan?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 15:41:33 2017 No.17259026 >>17258979 8. rocket scientist/ rocketing up Which could be Ano Harewataru Sora yori Takaku, it even shares characters with SukiSuki.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:00:19 2017 No.17259099 >>17258642 Why is Dovac still there then?

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:02:48 2017 No.17259108

>>17258979
Some of them seem like Otakon.

1. I doubt it only refered to Kyonyuu Fantasy, either Rance is announced at AX or at Otakon. I predict the latter. Entries is plural after all.

2. historical bent could be a lot of things. Sengoku Rance is an obvious guess.

4. I don't think that was refering to a new license. They have those almost every year. They do mention trying something new in the MG emails relating to Anime Expo, so there's probably something unusual about the announcement or how it will be released.

6. That could have been fulfilled with Hashihime.

7. Evenicle is a common guess because Yaegashi Nan drew for that, and I think that seems likely to be fulfilled at AX if it does get fulfilled with that game.

>>17259026
Probably the only relevant eroge related to rocket scientists. I would laugh if that was Conjueror's game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:20:40 2017 No.17259160 File: 643 KB, 1920x1080, 1498853737157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice translation, MG. https://my.mixtape.moe/jgpgto.webm Did you guys hire Herkz to do the editing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:23:30 2017 No.17259168 >>17259160 Why are you posting this in the AX thread?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:24:10 2017 No.17259169 >>17259168 VNTS is dead

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:25:44 2017 No.17259176 >>17259169 Well wait until Sunday (or Monday if they delay it for all the events at AX) then. This isn't the VNTS thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:26:16 2017 No.17259180 >>17259176 Fine :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:31:36 2017 No.17259198 >>17258642 Whose the guy who just quit? Is it CC's translator or something? Or is it some new guy for their otome brand and are destroying their own otome brand right after announcing it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:32:15 2017 No.17259200 File: 140 KB, 1280x905, DDh9gkuXoAETMaD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Wonderful Everyday ~Diskontinuierliches Dasein~ What's with the German? Why didn't they just call it Discontinuous Existence?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:32:54 2017 No.17259203 >>17259160 Whats wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:42:59 2017 No.17259235 >>17259200 To make it sound extra pretentious of course. Gotta pander to your audience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 18:37:39 2017 No.17259601 File: 486 KB, 2024x1518, DDhP5KPUIAAdIWE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They're showing the Baldr Sky openings at Sekai's booth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 18:40:53 2017 No.17259607 >>17259601 Not really sure if that means anything. They have had them uploaded on youtube for about a year now on their channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlAeXj8mQ-E >Published on Jul 3, 2016

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 18:43:29 2017 No.17259617 Why does the random menu voice setting in Dal Segno include a dude's voice?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 18:48:26 2017 No.17259634 >>17259617 >include a dude's voice Is it this guy? https://vndb.org/c39892 If so then he is basically the https://vndb.org/c4019 of Dal Segno.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 18:56:21 2017 No.17259660 >>17259634 Yeah, that's the guy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 20:05:12 2017 No.17259827 https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/880937392152219648 >By the way! Make sure to keep your eyes peeled tomorrow night after our #AnimeExpo2017 panel for a brand new pre-order announcement! So 1 of the reveals will be releasing in 4 weeks or more.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 20:17:57 2017 No.17259870

>>17259827
I wonder which 100% translated game it will be. Mangagamer has a specialized for Alicesoft programmer (SLC), so it wouldn't surprise me if that happened to be an Alicesoft game. Hardly guaranteed though. Even without Doddler and their other in-house programmers, there's always the chance that the original company programmed the game for MG.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 20:35:24 2017 No.17259933 >>17259200 Dasein is a technical term in philosophy. I guess they wanted to link the title to that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasein

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 20:52:48 2017 No.17259967 >>17259870 Could also be one of the games currently in beta. So could be something like SukiSuki or W Happiness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 20:59:18 2017 No.17259986 >>17259967 It feels weird for MG to go through the trouble of announcing it at AX if that was the case, but it's only a 2 day delay compared to the normal time

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 21:09:33 2017 No.17260031 >>17259601 So, uh, exactly what they did last year? Good to know Sekai has made 0 progress on it in a year.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 21:18:56 2017 No.17260059 >>17260031 M-maybe they added subtitles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 01:55:04 2017 No.17260796 When?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 03:00:16 2017 No.17261002 >>17259986 They'll probably have Ran Yamakaze announce W Happiness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 04:31:22 2017 No.17261253 >>17257779 I hope so, Alicesoft catalogue is huge and full of good titles so they don't need to bring over the shitty titles like Blade Briders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 05:44:50 2017 No.17261413 File: 316 KB, 1200x1920, 1498900755177.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gotta shield the eyes of all the christian families at anime expo i guess

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 06:14:45 2017 No.17261490 >>17259986 It's not the first time it's happened.

Anonymous Sat Jul 1 06:30:04 2017 No.17261518

>>17259986
If it happens to be an old title, it would give them an extra announcement for AX, and the title going up for preorder would get news coverage alongside their new AX announcements that it wouldn't otherwise get. That would work out quite well for a two day delay.

Of course, if it happens to be a noteworthy new title going up for preorder, that would also benefit in much the same way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 08:16:24 2017 No.17261776 >>17261413 He's a SJW. He should be used to safe spaces by now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 08:23:14 2017 No.17261795 >>17261413 Isn't it like 3rd year in a row for AX bullying MG? Why MG never learns from their mistakes and never tries to avoid them in the future? There are dozens of other cons, just drop AX entirely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 08:34:25 2017 No.17261813 >>17261795 Isn't AX the biggest con of its kind in Murrica?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 08:41:27 2017 No.17261834 >>17261813 It is and funny enough, AX were more lax when they were in Anaheim (where Disneyland is).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 09:49:30 2017 No.17261969 File: 680 KB, 1000x1500, bets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17256895

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 10:17:55 2017 No.17262070 File: 294 KB, 1000x1500, high hopes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 10:28:41 2017 No.17262119 >>17261795 I never heard about any trouble in previous years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 10:42:51 2017 No.17262173 >>17261969 looks pretty accurate, i'm seconding this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:06:31 2017 No.17262249 File: 283 KB, 1000x1500, 1498804536771.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's mine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:15:00 2017 No.17262275 >>17261969 I'm betting the moonstone title ends up being Magical Marriage Lunatics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:20:55 2017 No.17262292 >>17262275 I hope not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:21:37 2017 No.17262295 Can we just get the Djibrils already please? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBGWD-Ef8T4

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:24:39 2017 No.17262304 I hope there's a fire at AX that kills everyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:30:33 2017 No.17262321 >>17262295 Why do you want NTR son?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 11:59:46 2017 No.17262414 File: 277 KB, 1000x1500, boal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:08:01 2017 No.17262430 >>17262321 Why not?

Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:10:03 2017 No.17262436

MG's announcements:

1)VN with gameplay translated by Arunaru.
2)Conjueror's secret project, most likely story VN.
3)Something from Moonstone based on the guest artist. That mostly leaves Magical Marriage Lunatics, Natsu no Iro no Nostalgia, or Sakura no Mori Dreamers as possibilities.
4)Good Haro's there, so most likely BL or otome announcement.

New partner will either be Conjueror's or Good Haro's project.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:13:11 2017 No.17262452 >>17262436 1. Evenicle 2. Evolimit 3. Magical Marriage Lunatics

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:16:20 2017 No.17262466 >>17262436 >Good Haro's project Haro doesnt have an unannounced project for MG

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:18:21 2017 No.17262475 >>17262452 >Evolimit People keep saying this but kouryuu said awhile back that they weren't really looking at propellers older titles

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:18:46 2017 No.17262476 >>17262475 You just gotta believe anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:19:07 2017 No.17262477 >>17262466 She handles BL and otome announcements, whether she works on them or not. With Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome set to release in the near future, they'll most likely announce another otome title.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:22:21 2017 No.17262492 >>17262477 I don't doubt that, but she's said her unannounced project isn't MG related

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:47:44 2017 No.17262551 The transcript guy listed that he expects to do the MG and Jast panels, although the former is probably redundant, since it looks like we should have a video feed from >>17257755 .

Anonymous Sat Jul 1 12:59:33 2017 No.17262579

If Sekai actually did pick up Teaching Feeling as the group suggested, then I would expect that and a good chance of R18 Maitetsu, along with whatever solution they came up with to handle controversial titles since I doubt their payment processor would be happy with either (as they wouldn't have needed to look for a solution if it was easy to just sell it on Denpasoft).

With Frontwing having big plans to begin a strong R18 platform, I wonder if they'll do it themselves or work with J-List. They seem to have been building up a good relationship with J-List as the Corona Blossom patches were added there and they actually have a space at the J-List booth in the exhibit hall at AX this year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:02:21 2017 No.17262585 >>17262579 TF is not anywhere near as pedo as Maitetsu...

Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:10:28 2017 No.17262596

>>17262436
1)Evenicle, Rance 01, and Sengoku Rance are the most likely candidates.
2) I don't know Conjuerer's tastes beyond he likes chuunige so I won't bother guessing
3)Moonstone. Everyone seems to be guessing Magical Marriage Lunatics
4)Probably some sort of fujoshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:13:29 2017 No.17262602 >>17262579 Frontwing fusing with JAST USA down the line would be very interesting. Maybe that would lead to Nitro Plus games being released in a reasonable time frame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:13:46 2017 No.17262604 >>17262596 Conjuerer actually has a huge hardon for sci-fi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:16:42 2017 No.17262612 >>17262602 I doubt Frontwing would be interested in a partnership beyond using J-List's huge reach to have a viable way to sell R18 titles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:18:10 2017 No.17262618 >>17262604 Maybe Aqua After then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:27:29 2017 No.17262655 >>17262414 >JQV Fruitbat Factory is actually working with Studio Beast to release Chuusotsu (there was a kickstarter recently) so if we get JQV it's probably via them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:28:54 2017 No.17262664 Is Phantom Trigger any good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:29:37 2017 No.17262668 >>17262321 The NTR is avoidable unless you're a moron and lose fights or want to see it and lose on purpose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:35:45 2017 No.17262681 >>17262655 >Fruitbat Factory They hate porn, so JQV never.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:48:00 2017 No.17262727 >>17262664 It's short, expensive for what it is, and feels super generic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:50:59 2017 No.17262733 Jast pls more nitro+

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:55:32 2017 No.17262744 >>17262579 I'm pretty sure their Maitetsu "solution" is to just have the EN release be identical to the PS4 version that's coming out. That makes everyone happy because it's identical to what Japan got. On console, a year later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 13:56:48 2017 No.17262748 >>17262733 Remember to support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:13:34 2017 No.17262800 File: 240 KB, 1200x900, DDqxxF5UAAASLzq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:24:45 2017 No.17262831 >>17262800 Wow, such cultural diversity!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:28:28 2017 No.17262843 >>17262602 I would actually love this, finally Nitro+ titles that don't take 10+ years to release

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:29:45 2017 No.17262848 >>17262831 Is /pol/ shit really necessary? Black weebs are neither a new nor particularly shocking occurrence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:32:08 2017 No.17262854 Just hope for more moege and rape simulators from MG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:32:30 2017 No.17262856 >>17262848 you mena niggers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:35:29 2017 No.17262865 >>17262800 Unless that's a midget, what's that child doing near MG's booth? What's the the point of curtains if kids can walk around the 18+ displays?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:37:23 2017 No.17262871 >>17262865 There's an L turn to get inside and no porn on the outside. Not that it really matters since it seems like it'll all be banned next year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:46:31 2017 No.17262897 >>17262744 It would technically be uncensored, but it won't win the heart of anyone pissed off at Sekai over this, especially with the year delay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:48:08 2017 No.17262901 >>17262871 Except for the Fakku booth, of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:48:42 2017 No.17262903 File: 21 KB, 250x300, 45252.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] its time for bobby

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 14:53:14 2017 No.17262917 >>17262871 >it'll all be banned next year. really?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 15:01:38 2017 No.17262938 >>17262917 18+ art is already banned in artist alley. And they seem very intent to crack down on 18+ dealers in the hall too. The staff dealing with the dealers were acting like major dicks to them too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 15:01:57 2017 No.17262939 >>17262800 They should just ban kids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 15:03:26 2017 No.17262943 lol got banned for nigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 15:05:44 2017 No.17262949 >>17262938 Wow, they must be under the impression that 99% of anime fans aren't major perverts

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 15:17:30 2017 No.17262975 >>17262949 The fools.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 15:25:38 2017 No.17263010 >>17262800 That Da Capo x Da Capo II tease hurts. Especially knowing we will never get Dream Christmas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 16:45:32 2017 No.17263330 bump for lolige

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 16:56:50 2017 No.17263364 >>17259200 I hope that's not a sign they brought in some self-proclaimed Wittgenstein expert who butchered vvav's perfectly fine translation until it reached George Henry Shaft levels of emphasizing bullshit that doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 17:15:31 2017 No.17263433 >>17263364 I'm a Wittgenstein expert myself. t. Freshman in College

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 17:35:14 2017 No.17263498 >>17262949 The majority of "anime fans" are Naruto-tier. People who watch seasonal anime and discuss it online are a minority.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 18:02:48 2017 No.17263589 Aksys picked up another set of Otome VNs just like last year. They grabbed 7'scarlet, Kokuchou no Psychedelica, Haitaka no Psychedelica, and Code: Realize ~Shukufuku no Mirai~.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 18:34:22 2017 No.17263705 lolis

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 18:46:06 2017 No.17263746 >>17263705 there will be no lolis ever

Anonymous Sat Jul 1 18:55:51 2017 No.17263780

>>17261413
AX announced that next year adult art is completely banned from the artist alley. It sounds like they want to do it with the dealers room too, but with Fakku and other adult businesses being key sponsors, the best they can do is try to intimidate them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 18:56:46 2017 No.17263786 >>17263780 Pfft. What a bunch of cucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:06:09 2017 No.17263819 >>17263780 It feels like AX always wanted a reason to ban lewd, and they found a reason to crack down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:12:24 2017 No.17263836 File: 422 KB, 2048x1536, animeexpoline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >5+ hour line and a free tour of the local slum What a great deal You'd have to be mad to attend this shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:22:48 2017 No.17263865 File: 38 KB, 1139x655, MG.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MG kickstarter confirmed :) but damn 10 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:24:29 2017 No.17263872 >>17261413 https://twitter.com/Kouryuu_/status/881291709472047104 Since it's the LA City Council, it seems to be the politicians tumblrites voted for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:24:57 2017 No.17263874 >>17263865 Bamboo already said months ago he was plannng a kickstarter for the last OVERDRIVE Visula Novel. It's no surprise if it'll eventually come through MG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:26:11 2017 No.17263878 >>17263872 Sasuga

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:37:37 2017 No.17263916 >>17263874 Two crowdfunding projects are planned, the first of which is at least on Campfire. I wouldn't be surprised if the latter is your Sekai/Frontwing style goods+merchandise Kickstarter aimed more at the West.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 19:44:38 2017 No.17263932 Aside from the new title announcements, there is probably a good chance MG will have some more R18 patches for Steam for their older titles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:00:24 2017 No.17263979 >>17263932 Dengeki Stryker being price reduced for a free patch is possible. Da Capo III is a bit too new.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:19:58 2017 No.17264046 So with regards the odds of https://vndb.org/v15077 getting announced, apparently chuablesoft just died https://twitter.com/twit_chu/status/881152666855915521 I mean, I supposed it's still possible if mangagamer acquired it awhile ago, but

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:23:14 2017 No.17264055 >>17264046 Fuck. That's rough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:30:19 2017 No.17264063 >>17264046 If they got it before they gave out the hints, it's certainly possible. That still sucks a ton though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:31:23 2017 No.17264064 are these otome games actually any good or are they "good for otome games"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:32:04 2017 No.17264066 >>17264064 No one will ever know because they're on vita

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:37:00 2017 No.17264078 >>17264066 lol good luck aksys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:44:26 2017 No.17264093 >>17263872 its LA, the choice is between left and leftier.

Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:52:33 2017 No.17264112

>>17264093

There's plenty of conventions in left-leaning cities that manage to not be retarded(in fact, most of them are in left leaning cities as they usually have the bigger convention centers/halls/etc to rent out). LA is just special in that regard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 20:59:28 2017 No.17264132 >>17264046 Who do you think will buy up the rights/IP for all their VNs when they sell off the assets?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 21:01:13 2017 No.17264136 >>17256930 What timezone is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 21:07:15 2017 No.17264148 >>17264136 PST, so 3 hours behind 4chan time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 21:14:27 2017 No.17264162 >>17264093 >vote in California >being forced to choose between Democrat representative and Democrat representative in most positions. Can't do much about it really.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 22:56:21 2017 No.17264455 File: 32 KB, 250x261, 1498202644788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17264046 Thats really sad. He looked like someone who loved VN and to die this soon to get a international release. Is like 0verflow all over again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 22:58:01 2017 No.17264462 >>17264046 Did dovac assassinate his company? After we convinced him to go to Mangagamer instead of Sekai Project

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 23:09:28 2017 No.17264509 >>17264064 They're 'okay'. They gamble on otome titles likely to get anime adaptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 23:13:24 2017 No.17264516 >>17264509 i was going to ask if the anime industry is so starved for content that even mediocre otoge are being adapted but looking at this season's lineup i already knew the answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 23:26:42 2017 No.17264553 >>17264462 I doubt Sekai has that much influence on the Japanese VN industry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 1 23:53:44 2017 No.17264618 >DanganRonpa V3 is about 400 pages of text. 2.4 million Japanese characters, 96K English lines, and 12K voiced lines. DR1+DR2=DRV3.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:10:07 2017 No.17264658

>>17264618

Doesn't that put it above something like Sora no Kiseki Second Chapter, which took a long time to translate and nearly drove one of the translators to suicide?

I highly doubt DR3 is that big, especially when they are releasing the localization within the same year the game released in Japan. Are they inflating the text statistics somehow via repeated text or something else?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:11:49 2017 No.17264663 >>17264658 if its anything like the previous games, a bunch of text is in pointless "dating sim" sections

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:14:47 2017 No.17264675

>>17264663

That's still text regardless though, and you still would need to translate them as part of your job localizing the game.

Unless they did a horrible job (very likely) or as I said before, there's a lot of repeated text in these sections, I doubt you can get through that in a reasonable time without compromises.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:22:04 2017 No.17264695 >>17264675 The English promo site originally mistranslated uncle as grandfather. It's also hard to tell how many translators they have working on it. Clannad was done in about a year by a translation team.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:24:38 2017 No.17264703 >>17264658 >Are they inflating the text statistics somehow via repeated text or something else? V3 has extra minigames and a school mode that has interactions with characters from previous games. Add all of that up and the text is increased by alot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:34:01 2017 No.17264740 MG's panel should be starting around now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:36:08 2017 No.17264744 >>17264740 Probably another ten minutes while people get let in. Neither stream nor transcipt people are in yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:36:43 2017 No.17264745 Anyone got a link for the transcipt ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:37:47 2017 No.17264747 File: 22 KB, 618x183, Screenshot_921.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:38:25 2017 No.17264749 >>17264516 The best ones are the adaptions that know the original is mediocre and fully ham it up. Dance With Devils became Glee with demons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-04vpEzT4b8

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:38:25 2017 No.17264750 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecon-industry

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:38:28 2017 No.17264751 >>17264740 >Our panel should be starting soon, we’re just having a few little technical difficulties

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:38:38 2017 No.17264752 >>17264745 http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php When MangaGamer@AX2017 appears select it. Also for stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecon-industry

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:40:07 2017 No.17264755 >>17264749 Didn't this come out before the game?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:43:27 2017 No.17264763 I hope it's all NTR

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:45:38 2017 No.17264769 >>17264763 NTR and loli

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:46:30 2017 No.17264770 >>17264763 All eroge are NTR since the girls are fucking some generic Japanese high school student and not (You).

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:46:42 2017 No.17264771

>>17264755
The game kept getting delayed so the anime ended up releasing first. Both were meant to be released at the same time.

Then the game ended up not doing well but the anime was so hammed up that it developed a following (and now it's getting a sequel film)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:51:04 2017 No.17264778 http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/ax17/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:51:54 2017 No.17264779 >>17264752 The stream is live

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:52:04 2017 No.17264780 >>17264778 It feels so wrong to get spoiled like this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:52:04 2017 No.17264781 Live now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:52:35 2017 No.17264782 >>17264778 Evenicle and Damekoi? Holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:53:12 2017 No.17264783 >>17264778 >evenicle they did it, the absolute madmen

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:54:12 2017 No.17264785 >>17264778 >Damekoi MG already won before the live announcements

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:57:37 2017 No.17264791 >that screeching fat morgan autist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:58:29 2017 No.17264793 >>17264778 >Magical Marriage Lunatics over all the other possible titles in their lineup Why

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:58:50 2017 No.17264794 >>17264778 wow it's fucking nothing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 00:59:31 2017 No.17264796 >>17264793 Probably due to evangile being an unexpectedly huge success.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:00:08 2017 No.17264799 >>17264793 What kind of panel would it be without something being underwhelming?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:00:13 2017 No.17264800 >>17264778 1) Damekoi 2) Evenicle 3) Magical Marriage Lunatics 4) Space Live Also, info about Umineko and Itaru's upcoming project.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:01:21 2017 No.17264802 >>17264793 It's newer and people requested it alot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:01:50 2017 No.17264803 >>17264800 >Also, info about Umineko More like a hardcopy >uminekohc.jpg >umineko hc.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:03:14 2017 No.17264809 >>17264802 >It's newer Not anymore. And he's more whining about why not https://vndb.org/v18760

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:04:19 2017 No.17264813 >>17263836 Just why does AX always have this long lines?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:05:16 2017 No.17264815 >>17264809 Dreamers is too new.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:05:52 2017 No.17264816 >>17264749 dance with devils will always be remembered for having pomeranian devils

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:08:06 2017 No.17264819 Evangile fandisk preorders open tonight

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:08:27 2017 No.17264821 W Happiness July 28th!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:09:50 2017 No.17264823 >>17264819 And there it is http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1026

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:11:28 2017 No.17264828 >>17264813 Because people are too stupid to go on the pre-con days where the lines are less than an hour to non-existent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:14:34 2017 No.17264831 Damekoi I'm guessing will include a Steam release and they are going with the catchy English title of The Most Forbidden Love in the World, so it probably has a decent chance of success despite being a not particularly well known 2007 title.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:15:28 2017 No.17264832 So how does Evenicle compare to Rance?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:16:26 2017 No.17264836 >>17264832 Its a better game than Quest on its own but Aster is pretty boring. Its definitely a good release though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:17:27 2017 No.17264837 >>17264831 I think they'd need to upscale it for steam

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:18:25 2017 No.17264840 Why should I even bother with Evenicle?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:19:12 2017 No.17264841 >>17264840 Moogy Approved™

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:19:13 2017 No.17264842 >>17264840 The gameplay and porn I guess?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:19:19 2017 No.17264843 >>17264840 Why should you ever bother with anything?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:19:34 2017 No.17264844 >>17264840 Why even bother with anything anon? There's no chance for anything to provide entertainment to such a jaded and cynical individual as you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:19:37 2017 No.17264845 >>17264840 Why should you even bother with life?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:19:56 2017 No.17264847 http://mangagamer.org/evenicle/ http://mangagamer.org/mml/ http://mangagamer.org/damekoi/ http://mangagamer.org/spacelive/ MG links to the AX announcement if you need them for whatever reason

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:20:08 2017 No.17264850 >>17264840 Its fun, as >>17264836 said, but is not Rance. That being said, the Rancenicle is awesome, yet short and I don't think MG will release it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:21:10 2017 No.17264852 >>17264841 Please don't associate a good game like Evenicle with that trash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:21:52 2017 No.17264855 >>17264840 The porn is really good and the gameplay is fun for an eroge i guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:22:07 2017 No.17264856 >>17264842 I mean, it looks like generic RPG with porn. Are the characters good? Is the story actually engaging or whatever the hell makes the game good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:22:22 2017 No.17264858 >>17264847 >Senran Kaguya

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:23:07 2017 No.17264861 >>17264847 Space Live looks to be an all ages ecchi idol title by Circus, probably got greenlit back during the Steam craze.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:23:17 2017 No.17264862 >>17264847 >http://mangagamer.org/spacelive/ I was wondering what the fuck this was >Brand-new and unannounced even in Japan >All ages And now I know it's shit!

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:23:26 2017 No.17264865

>>17264855
From the CG the porn looks like the worst part actually. Senran Kagura artist is the draw but he's not very good at drawing 18+

I'd rather have Bishoujo Mangekyou series for the porn

Evenicle looks fun for the RPG aspects and cute girls though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:23:50 2017 No.17264867 Why are announcements always spoiled? Is /jp/ actually CSI?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:24:28 2017 No.17264868 >>17264867 moogy posted it on Twitter first

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:24:37 2017 No.17264870 >>17264867 Probably Haro

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:26:53 2017 No.17264875 >>17264867 Well, they are misunderstood geniuses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:27:19 2017 No.17264878 >>17264867 Haro kinda just gave it away this year, the directories used to be protected but I guess she didn't have time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:27:26 2017 No.17264879 >>17264831 It seems they don't intend to do a Steam release, which is a bit of a surprise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:27:34 2017 No.17264880 >>17264867 I wish they hired someone competent for the IT stuff. I mean how can you even fuck up the permissions that badly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:27:48 2017 No.17264882 >>17264847 Adding the one that was just announced: http://www.mangagamer.org/koropokkur/

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:29:33 2017 No.17264892

>>17264880
Speaking as an IT guy, it's pretty easy.
I'd be willing to bet money that whoever put up those files assumed that security through obscurity worked and/or that there wouldn't be time for enterprising individuals to find the links. Wrong on both counts, of course, but it's an easy assumption for a new guy to make.

>>	Good Haro Sun Jul 2 01:30:15 2017 No.17264894 >>17264880 I was short on time and forgot... I don't think getting spoiled 30 minutes early is that big a deal though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:30:29 2017 No.17264895 >>17264892 Or they did it on purpose and posted it here

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:30:40 2017 No.17264896 https://twitter.com/_garejei/status/881384116205301760 >So DameKoi is what I've been editing for MG, Conj is the TL Now we know that Conjueror has been doing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:32:01 2017 No.17264898 >>17264896 I wonder how he convinced mangagamer to take it on

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:32:25 2017 No.17264900 >>17264882 It seems they are setting up something along the line of Sekai Project's calme brand with this, developing their own Japanese side developed titles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:32:33 2017 No.17264901 >>17264895 Also plausible. PR works in bizarre ways sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:32:34 2017 No.17264902 >tfw Bishoujo Mangekyou never ever

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:32:39 2017 No.17264903 >>17264896 no honorifics confirmed then

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:33:19 2017 No.17264904 >>17264902 Too expensive

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:33:58 2017 No.17264905 >>17264904 Feels bad man It doesn't deserve the finnshit treatment

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:34:03 2017 No.17264906 Nitro+ and 5pb announcement when ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:34:28 2017 No.17264907 >>17264903 Good. Anybody who actually knows what honorifics actually mean is Japanese, anybody who doesn't will get the same (or more) amount of meaning from localized text, anybody who gets mad at honorifics being removed is scum.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:34:55 2017 No.17264908 >>17264906 when J-LIST decides to finally scrap JAST

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:35:09 2017 No.17264910 >>17264907 t. herkz

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:35:30 2017 No.17264912

>>17264892
I know that, and this is not the first time this happened so I'm wondering why not do it earlier and check it.

>>17264894
I wouldn't call it a problem but it ruins the fun. Couldn't you do that like 1 day before or (even better) have someone automate that stuff? It's not the first time this happens (Sona-nyl for example).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:38:05 2017 No.17264914 >>17264912 Even if she had protected them I still would have spoiled it because I just looked and the files are uploaded on a few certain sites with unprotected directories that haven't posted their articles yet.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:38:48 2017 No.17264917

>>17264778
Well I'm underwhelmed. Thanks for saving me some money MG, wont be picking up any of these.

>>17264906
>Nitro+
If you count Nitro+Chiral then it already leaked that JASTUSA was talking to the Sweet Pool fan translators.

We're probably getting 1-2 Chiral titles announced tonight (Dramatical Murder and one other).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:42:23 2017 No.17264925 >>17264917 What were you hoping for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:42:46 2017 No.17264928 >>17264894 Why is space live all ages What could possibly have made that seem like a good idea

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:43:10 2017 No.17264929 >>17264917 >JASTUSA was talking to the Sweet Pool fan translators. When? All I heard was that someone approached them, they rejected because their tl is actually bullshit, then they disappeared. They didn't say who it was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:44:04 2017 No.17264935 >>17264928 Approved before Steam sales declined.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:44:13 2017 No.17264936 >>17264914 Fair enough but I still think they could at least work on this part on their front.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:44:14 2017 No.17264937 What's the verdict on MG's announcents?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:44:37 2017 No.17264938 >>17264928 Steam made it seem like a good idea. Knowing Circus and the re-releasing monsters that they are, it might eventually get a 18+ version down the road. And 20+ fandiscs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:45:40 2017 No.17264942 >>17264937 Evenicle and Damekoi are good for me. Pretty meh on the other announcements.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:45:58 2017 No.17264943 Wish something had've come of that Sisters rumor

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:46:01 2017 No.17264944 >>17264928 It would have made perfect sense for any title approved before late Spring last year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:46:13 2017 No.17264945 >>17264937 I only grade on a scale so I need to see how terrible the rest are first

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:46:14 2017 No.17264946 >>17264937 Damekoi and Evenicle seem solid, rest is meh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:46:15 2017 No.17264947 >>17264937 damekoi and evenicle out of 10 If you still enjoy stuff it's good news and they'll definitely have the best announcements at AX

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:47:59 2017 No.17264954 >>17264937 I got Evenicle so I'm happy Bit disappointed they didn't pick up Sakura no Mori dreamers, but I guess since they figured that PE sold so well they might as well do all of his titles

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:48:04 2017 No.17264955 >>17264902 The only way for Bishoujo Mangekyou to get localized is for /jp/ to start its own localization company.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:48:24 2017 No.17264956 >>17264898 Really surprising yeah i hope it'll sell well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:49:10 2017 No.17264957 >>17264955 Why though? Other nukige companies license out

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:49:47 2017 No.17264960 >>17264937 They won, we already know Frontwing is showing. JAST isn't going to be doing shit, and Sekai is going to be disappointing. I'm still expecting a kickstarter for Sakusaku/Subahibi/Maitetsu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:50:07 2017 No.17264961 >>17264937 Evenicle seems fun, DameKoi is supposed to be a classic kamige in Japan so i'm hype and the plot looks really good. Hitaru Inoue sketchs for her new title are cute as fuck. MG did well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:50:20 2017 No.17264964 Damekoi was the "something old" from the hints. Something new is either Space Live or Itaru's new project.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:51:01 2017 No.17264967 >>17264955 /jp/ will never do surpass beyond making "The Dandelion Girl" VN ever again

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:51:06 2017 No.17264968 >>17264955 >/jp/ to start its own localization company A jpsie is doing just that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:51:18 2017 No.17264969 >>17264957 Nobody wants to license it, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:51:44 2017 No.17264972 >>17264943 I wish too anon. Maybe at Otacon? I mean it's always the biggest titles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:53:29 2017 No.17264978 >>17264900 Feels like a bad idea, though I give them some credit for not simply trying to replicate the popularity of a memege.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:53:35 2017 No.17264979 >>17264968 Dovac doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:53:56 2017 No.17264980 >>17264847 >damekoi >written by the critically-acclaimed author of White Album 2 Well, I guess it's better than nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:54:18 2017 No.17264983 Bishoujo Mangekyou license is pretty unlikely because it's such a fucking successful nukige series and it tops sales every release. MG probably couldn't afford a license.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:54:27 2017 No.17264984 >>17264980 I got it on good information sekai project is announcing WA2

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:55:56 2017 No.17264990 Why are people desperate for White Album 2 when Moogy confirmed it as fucking shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:56:14 2017 No.17264992 >>17264984 I wish they would so I could watch the mass suicides that would follow

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:56:15 2017 No.17264993 I still don't understand why cash-in all ages trash keeps getting churned out Nobody bought that shit in 2015, nobody bought that shit in 2016 and nobody will buy that shit now either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:56:48 2017 No.17264995 >>17264990 Who is moogy?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:56:48 2017 No.17264996

>>17264937
Did excellently. They would have done better of Space Live wasn't a thing, but one awful VN doesn't counteract Evenicle or Damekoi. The Itaru VN was also interesting enough to pique interest, more so than Kara Kara. If they manage to do it without crowdfunding, that would be extremely impressive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:57:16 2017 No.17264997 moogy doesn't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:58:03 2017 No.17264998 >>17264993 Are you retarded? Hundreds of thousands of people have bought Nekopara on Steam while only like 1% of them buy the 18+ version. The casual market is there, you just have to tap into it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:58:45 2017 No.17265003 >>17264990 The people are blind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 01:59:37 2017 No.17265007 >>17264998 Just because someone managed to catch lightning in a bottle once doesn't mean the odds are good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:00:07 2017 No.17265009 >>17264992 DESU, I was pretty happy when everyone felt super disappointed after Sekai announced they got Baldr. Seeing dovac so depressed that his big announcement was received badly made me feel a little better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:00:42 2017 No.17265015 What SP would have to announce to "win" this?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:00:49 2017 No.17265017

>>17264996
>The Itaru VN was also interesting enough to pique interest, more so than Kara Kara. If they manage to do it without crowdfunding, that would be extremely impressive.
The announcement page says that it's gonna be kickstarted. I'm guessing that this is the Overdrive game they were hinting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:01:50 2017 No.17265019 >>17265015 They're selling all their licenses to better companies,

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:02:09 2017 No.17265022 >>17265017 No, that's supposed to be written by setoguchi

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:02:34 2017 No.17265024 >>17264929 They never confirmed it was JASTUSA but said it was someone valid. Since then Jastusa has been playing coy on twitter about Nitro+Chiral titles. https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/836015955939475457

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:02:49 2017 No.17265025 >>17265015 Dovac killing himself on stream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:02:49 2017 No.17265026 File: 142 KB, 585x401, chrome_2017-06-30_01-58-45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17265009 It traumatized him so bad he has literal nightmares about it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:03:04 2017 No.17265027

>>17264998
Nekopara isn't cash-in shit (well, maybe you can make a case for the additional volumes), it's the original beast.
Cash-in shit is the steady stream of crap that believe the same pipe dream as you that there is some mystical untapped market that THIS all ages garbage will reach unlike all the others.

The reality is that you'll get more sales by light beaming porn from DLsite and selling it for a couple dollars

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:03:16 2017 No.17265029 >>17265022 Wasn't it a collab with Itaru too? So she's doing the art for two VNs for basically the same company?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:03:36 2017 No.17265033 >>17265015 Fate/Stay Night

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:04:56 2017 No.17265039 >>17265029 >Wasn't it a collab with Itaru too? I don't believe there's any information pointing to that at the moment, and that was just speculation

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:06:13 2017 No.17265043 >>17265024 Could've been a lie for attention. They also said they rejected the offer. This translation group has been extremely flaky for years and it's up for debate if it's even a proper translation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:10:31 2017 No.17265062 >>17265043 >Could've been a lie for attention. I didn't even think of that. Now everything makes sense. Thanks anon. It did seem weird that someone wanted Sweet Pool of all the Chiral titles considering its always had the smallest fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:11:41 2017 No.17265070 >Japanese Brazilian Portuguese

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:13:17 2017 No.17265076 >This voice Holy fuck dude

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:15:59 2017 No.17265087 So if MML is Project #3, what were the others? Want to know how complete the others are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:16:17 2017 No.17265088 https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/881393745970700289

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:16:38 2017 No.17265089 I see you fixing stuff Haro but you still haven't fixed >>17264858 閃乱カグラ

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:18:50 2017 No.17265097

Just realized, what do you think MG has left for Otakon? They used most of their big publishers this round. Though if anything, i'll be happier if they announce nothing if translation hasn't started yet. Maggot baits being at 39% and Sona-Nyl not even being at 1% hurts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:20:36 2017 No.17265106 >>17265097 >Sona-Nyl not even being at 1% hurts. Fucking Grisaia trash holding it up

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:21:19 2017 No.17265108 >>17265097 Rance Quest >something BLue…?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:21:26 2017 No.17265109 >>17265097 Rance Quest obviously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:21:29 2017 No.17265110 >>17265097 They're saving BiMan for Otakon since AX is anti-ero now, obviously.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:21:56 2017 No.17265112

>>17264993
When Nekopara, Go Go Nippon, and Sakura Spirit hit 6 figure sales back in 2015 though early 2016, it put a lot of projects into the pipeline, which are only getting announced now.

Although even beyond the Steam craze, KaraKara (before the bundle), LoveKami and Nekonin pulled respectable numbers compared to most other recent titles, so there is still some room to have some success on Steam with such titles, even if you won't sell 100k.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:27:14 2017 No.17265121 Woah, they actually did get to the internet questions this year. I should have submitted more than just troll questions

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:27:31 2017 No.17265122 >>17265097 Monobeno.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:28:33 2017 No.17265125 >>17265121 Too lazy to watch Q&A. Anything decent mentioned?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:29:12 2017 No.17265128 >>17265122 Monobeno would honestly be such a ridiculously difficult and tedious title to translate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:33:21 2017 No.17265136 >>17265125 Nothing really, sexual politics in fata morgana, favorite character, favorite character, fata morgana had some difficult subjectmatter

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:34:14 2017 No.17265139 >>17265097 I'm both glad that they're waiting on Sona-Nyl until their best translator can handle it, and sad that something I dislike is occupying that translator.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:34:34 2017 No.17265141 >>17265125 Just a few typical, "What's your favorite character, what's your favorite illustration, let me spoil Futa Mangina's twist for the entire audience."

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:35:46 2017 No.17265148 >>17265139 I thought the all-ages version of the 3rd game is already released. Is koestl occupied with doing the H-scenes of Grisaia?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:35:54 2017 No.17265149 >>17265122 I don't think mangagamer is gonna translate any lolige that isn't something short they can spin out for the money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:36:55 2017 No.17265154 >>17265148 I can't imagine what else he'd be occupied with. I assume it's something Grisia, maybe one of the spinoffs?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:39:28 2017 No.17265157

>>17265149
Monobeno has a ton of scenes with large breasted, thicc women, so I dunno if it's even fair to strictly call it a lolige. Maitetsu has even more of that.

It's also extremely heavy on the plot, and not so much on being a degenerate pedophile and chasing after lolis or something. Honestly, I think a lot of people who have preconceptions of Monobeno as this "24/7 ass-fucking smug loli" game are going to be extremely disappointed -- a great deal of the H-scenes are completely segmented from the story, the lolis are basically never smug (people made those images with the in-game CG editor), and the game really focuses a lot on rural Japan, ancient Japanese mythos and culture, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:41:16 2017 No.17265164 >>17264980 >damekoi Have you not heard of Damekoi before? It has been hyped to the heavens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:42:20 2017 No.17265166 >>17265164 not everyone follows retarded e-celebs on Twitter

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:43:29 2017 No.17265169 >>17265166 B-but I read about it in a blog

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:44:15 2017 No.17265171 >>17265169 oh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:44:17 2017 No.17265172 >>17265166 The kind of people that follow VN 'personalities' are probably the kind of people to call Damekoi shit since it's not WA2 or some other ultrameme

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:46:23 2017 No.17265176 >>17265015 The Tsukihime remake honestly. Can't beat a 2015 game (Evenicle) and an interesting Itaru drawn VN with a 2004 VN.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:47:57 2017 No.17265177 >>17265176 >The Tsukihime remake even Type-moon isn't interested in that anymore it's all fate/go and fate/extella 2 and fate/whatever makes us more $$$

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:48:39 2017 No.17265179 >>17265176 >Tsukihime Do you mean Kizuato?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:53:43 2017 No.17265184 >>17265088 Looks like Nympho Sensei Ryoko and Seinarukana are selling... I wonder if Ryoko doing well will lead to Sexfriend being licensed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:58:09 2017 No.17265198 So looking into that writer for the itaru hinoue game it seems they're a pretty new face. http://egs.omaera.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/creater.php?creater=27057

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 02:59:52 2017 No.17265200 >>17265157 >Monobeno has a ton of scenes with large breasted, thicc women, so I dunno if it's even fair to strictly call it a lolige. But the focus is on the imouto, the busty girls have like only one sex scenes in the whole VN.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:00:11 2017 No.17265202 >>17265198 Yeah, I haven't even heard of the titles they had worked on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:03:27 2017 No.17265205 >>17265202 Well only one of them is even out...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:04:58 2017 No.17265209 >>17265200 Doesn't really change the fact that about half of the erotic scenes in the VN don't feature lolis. And there's a few scenes with Imouto where you fuck her cowtitted form.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:10:28 2017 No.17265215 >There's Macro Space's Ai E, a hardworking, easily flustered girl trying to regain her lost position >IE is already dead and phased out for "Edge" I just can't see this title being a success in any way

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:12:37 2017 No.17265223

>>17265097
Rocket scientist VN (RIP Chuable Soft)

More entries in a popular franchise (probably Rance. Shin Koihime could count though, and there's Sono Hana perhaps. The last one doesn't seem overly popular though.)

Historical Bent title (probably Sengoku Rance though Rance Quest has some of the gender bent historical figures from Sengoku. It could also be Shin Koihime)

>>17265108
BL title may have been fulfilled by Hashihime, though I would be surprised if there were no fujo titles in Otakon.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:31:34 2017 No.17265256

One nice thing about the Magical Marriage Lunatics announcement is that it is final confirmation that E2 does not have any rights to the Moonstone titles (since it was one of the two titles that E2 initially showed from Moonstone). Although what is happening with Love Sweets is still an open question, as we haven't heard anything about it since last summer and unless it is an Otakon announcement they didn't simply hand it off to MG.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:31:54 2017 No.17265259 >>17265223 More entries in a popular franchise is Kyonyu Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 03:33:07 2017 No.17265264 >>17265259 entrie(s), anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 04:12:07 2017 No.17265319 i pray for sumaga, you have to give sumaga i NEED sumaga

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 04:13:39 2017 No.17265322 >>17265319 JAST forgot what that was

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:14:06 2017 No.17265448 Sekai to announce white album 1, 2(introduction chapter) and baldr sky dive 1 kickstarter

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:29:31 2017 No.17265483 B-but muh Rance! Guys?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:30:49 2017 No.17265485 >>17265483 Next con, probably

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:36:30 2017 No.17265498 >>17265485 Why would it be next con. Why would they announce two Alicesoft games back to back?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:42:46 2017 No.17265513 >>17265498 Because the demand is strong coming from alicesoft/rance fans and they sell well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:44:01 2017 No.17265517 >>17265513 And having two games back to back means you are splitting your market.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:44:41 2017 No.17265520 >>17265517 They will buy both.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:45:35 2017 No.17265522 >>17265517 Evenicle will take about a year to be released, while something like Sengoku could be released in 3-4 months. This way they wouldn't cannibalize each other.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:45:40 2017 No.17265523 >>17265520 Some might but you maximise that by spreading the releases out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:46:12 2017 No.17265525 >>17265522 Other way around isn't it. Evenicle is mostly translated as per twitter while they'd have to start Sengoku from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:49:44 2017 No.17265535 >>17265522 Evenicle will probably take 6 months or something, not a year. Translation will be done by the end of the month.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:51:14 2017 No.17265538 >>17265535 Probably another December release.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:52:18 2017 No.17265543 >>17265538 Maybe, but then again, MG has quite a lot that they need to release now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 05:54:23 2017 No.17265548 >>17265543 Yeah but Evenicle is a great chance to be their number 1 seller. Alicesoft fans are proven reliable big market buyers (in MG terms) and Evenicle has the whole Senran connection. Its not something they'd want to sit on.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 06:07:28 2017 No.17265580

>>17264960
On a purely license standpoint, it's quite easy to imagine another panel at least matching MG. Sekai hasn't announced anything major since last AX (aside from sequels for Kickstarter), so if they got anything major since then they would have it at AX. Not to mention, it wouldn't be a surprise to see them try to make a splash with Denpasoft, especially since they went through quite a few housecleaning announcements at Anime Central which they could have held onto if they needed more announcements for AX. Jast has teased Muramasa and Tokyo Necro looks like a tempting license, not to mention they have the resources to go after big titles if they wanted to. Frontwing in their preview also included a suggestive "and more", and since their strategy with their 3rd party licenses is to focus on titles that were big in Japan, another big announcement after Subahibi wouldn't at all be a surprise.

Of course that is solely judging on the licenses themselves. Sekai Project releases may have their own set of problems (although R18 hopefully wouldn't be an issue on anything new now that they are focusing on Denpasoft), and anything Jast picks up won't be out before 2020.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 06:12:12 2017 No.17265591 >>17265580 I am fully expecting Sekai to pick up at least one license which is a title I'm looking forward to. Unfortunate, but it has happened just about every year.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 06:58:34 2017 No.17265688

Sad that all lobbying for hardcopy W-happiness didn't make a difference. Now I'll have to pretend it isn't released until hard copies arrive. Hate having to rely on those who bought digital games to do their job and buy the fan disc so I can buy mine.

Also disappointed Sisters wasn't an announcement. It is Baldr hights of hype for that one, so I guess Sekai will nab it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 07:06:58 2017 No.17265703 Fantastic announcements from MG desu. Really hyped for everything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 07:13:33 2017 No.17265710 >>17265688 There's always Otakon. Hoping fora bit more variety than AX but apparently quality-wise, Evenicle and Damekoi would be hard to beat?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 07:20:18 2017 No.17265733 >Everything announced last AX that I was looking forward to isn't even out yet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 07:39:50 2017 No.17265774 MG's announcements were great so far, I'll get Evenicle and DameKoi so far, maybe MML if the comedy is good.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:32:24 2017 No.17266061

>22:10:51 <bay|AX|Mangagamer> Magical Marriage Lunatics!!
>22:11:06 <bay|AX|Mangagamer> Secret project #3

>22:15:27 <bay|AX|Mangagamer> Evenicle
>22:17:03 <bay|AX|Mangagamer> secret project #2

>22:21:40 <bay|AX|Mangagamer> The Most Forbidden Love in the World
>22:21:44 <bay|AX|Mangagamer> Secret project #4

So what's Secret Project #1?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:37:02 2017 No.17266086

>>17265223
It's a little depressing that Chuablesoft died and we probably wouldn't get anything after SukiSuki and maybe AnoHare if the hints were true. They had a good library of games that could have been brought over.

>>17266061
The Circus all-ages game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:40:47 2017 No.17266098 >>17266061 >>17266086 Unless there's a mistake on the project status page, they never announced Secret Project #1.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:42:36 2017 No.17266108 >>17266086 >The Circus all-ages game. Of course. That makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:44:48 2017 No.17266116 >>17266108 But it isn't. It's still listed as secret, unlike the others that have been revealed. http://blog.mangagamer.org/project-status/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:50:01 2017 No.17266137 >>17266116 Oh. Well. I guess that makes even more sense. I never saw #1 being explicitly referenced in the transcript when they were announcing projects.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:56:23 2017 No.17266166 >>17266116 I thought that they just made a mistake, it seems to fit what they announced in AX that it was already completed and is waiting for a simultaneous release. Must be something fun if it's 100% translated and edited and not announced yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:58:25 2017 No.17266173 >>17266137 >>17266166 Not sure if it's a mistake or not. Space Live isn't listed at all though, but then again, neither is Itaru's new project.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 09:58:27 2017 No.17266174 >>17266166 Rance Quest

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:06:46 2017 No.17266211 >>17266174 I like to believe so. Two big Alicesoft titles coming out in the same year seems a little unbelievable though. Well, Haruka and 5D+VI did too, but that was the start and the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:07:56 2017 No.17266217 >>17266211 Well no reason for it to come out this year if it hasn't been announced.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:08:16 2017 No.17266221 >>17266086 Can always fan translate them. Being official isn't always better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:11:13 2017 No.17266234 >>17266174 I doubt it's Quest. SP 1 seemed to get translated very quickly, so it's most likely something that's not very long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:13:08 2017 No.17266239 >>17266234 Got to remember that two years ago Quest was already 70% done. One of the reasons there was so much angst in certain quarters about Buy Haruka.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:13:25 2017 No.17266243 >>17266086 Chuablesoft could've survived if MG didn't take their sweet time with SukiSuki.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:15:03 2017 No.17266249

I don't see why people keep thinking that MG will skip Sengoku Rance. It's the next in line and MG have announced already fantranslated VNs before. Just look at Hadaka Shitsuji that was announced not too long ago.

Plus, Quest is the direct sequel to Sengoku Rance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:17:50 2017 No.17266268 >>17266249 Because I don't want to believe it's being done again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:19:54 2017 No.17266281 >>17266249 With Alicesoft they have access to a lot more games than otome. They have Quest, 01, 03, IX, Escalayer, Oyako Rankan, Ixseal, Tsuma 3, Heartful Maman etx that they'll be pretty interested in releasing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:23:51 2017 No.17266315 >>17266268 I'd be happy if it was done officially. The fantranslation wasn't very good.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:25:03 2017 No.17266324

>>17266249
Probably because a majority of Rance fans in the west would prefer one of the untranslated games instead so they're talking down the possibility.

It's actually going to be a difficult balance for MG. I'm sure they'd love to bring Sengoku over but you run the risk of pushing your markets patience especially if they want to have a non-Rance/Rance/non-Rance/Rance release pattern. Doing Sengoku could push Quest's release out to 2019 at the earliest and then you have 01, 03, IX, X and probably 04 and maybe 002 to consider.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:32:06 2017 No.17266351

>>17266249
Arunaru could finish translation of Sengoku if he worked as fast as he did with Evenicle pretty quickly. Finishing translation by early next year is feasible, but there's still beta after that. RQ can be released soon after that if Maria works on it. She's done with Sorcery Jokers, but she might be doing a different project right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:34:18 2017 No.17266361 >>17266324 They could announce Sengoku and Quest at the same time. Or they could announce a day 1 hardcopy for Sengoku to help justify its licensing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:35:17 2017 No.17266367 >>17266361 Why would they announce Sengoku and Quest at the same time? You'd just end up with lower sales for both.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:36:28 2017 No.17266373 >>17266367 Not really. Release them about 3-6 months apart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:38:53 2017 No.17266386 >>17266373 Then you run into this issue >>17266324

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:44:50 2017 No.17266414 The answer is easy, leave Sengoku Rance to SP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 10:49:56 2017 No.17266443 >>17266386 It's not really an issue in that case, since then the game they want is announced too. Instead of thinking it's years off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:00:56 2017 No.17266483 >>17266243 If they were in enough trouble to go bankrupt I am not sure an extra few thousand in cash would have exactly saved them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:02:37 2017 No.17266487 >>17266483 Just like how Go Go Nippon DLC couldn't save OVERDRIVE.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:07:03 2017 No.17266510 >>17266487 I think it at least gave them a chance to at least put work into putting forward their final game for people to crowdfund. Without that unexpected extra money I expect they would closed up a few years ago now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:42:52 2017 No.17266647 >>17266221 Official has that reliability factor of not disappearing into the void though. Maybe fanTLs might pick it up since there's no risk involved with a dead company (at least officially no new translations would happen).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:52:03 2017 No.17266698 >>17266647 Unless MG announces a Chuablesoft title at Otakon, it's very likely Sukisuki is all they'll do from them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:55:34 2017 No.17266714 >>17266698 How does licensing from a bankrupt company even work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 11:55:53 2017 No.17266716 >>17266221 FanTL would never get to them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:06:51 2017 No.17266762 How many of the MG announced titles are going to get a hardcopy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:12:47 2017 No.17266787 >>17265149 More importantly, lolige wherein the lolis could arguably be adolescent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:25:22 2017 No.17266833 >>17266762 Evenicle 100% get one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:33:05 2017 No.17266868 >>17266714 The rights from their VNs get sold off. It then depends on who gets the licenses.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:33:17 2017 No.17266869

>>17266714
If they have already paid for the license then it is likely to be fine, since what ever contract is made will be transferred across in any asset sales (though their is a chance they could ask for a renegotiation on things or pay a fee to terminate it if it is part of a get out clause). For titles they haven't then it will come down to who buys up the rights afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:35:36 2017 No.17266876 I,for one,can't wait for /jp/ calling our VN shit.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 12:58:55 2017 No.17266931

>>17266787
I fail to see how anyone could see any VN as worse than Euphoria anyway. Not to mention you can actually buy Higurashi manga where they force a child to lick dried poop from a toilet.

But maybe there is some giant conspiracy out there that want children and women to be force fed shit, but care about them not having to do disgusting things like having sex.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 13:05:37 2017 No.17266958 Super hyped for Evenicle

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 13:42:47 2017 No.17267103 >>17266716 Tell me which ones are actually good and I'll consider.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:16:31 2017 No.17267230 I'm most hyped for Magical Marriage but everything looks good from MG. Altough I'm a little skeptical about their own VN

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:20:44 2017 No.17267249 MoeGamer

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:28:43 2017 No.17267273

>>17266483
You'd be surprised. At the very least, extra cash usually buys some time, and time is probably the most important resource in avoiding bankruptcy.

>>17266714
Pre-existing contracts remain valid for the duration of the contract (even if for the majority of that time, they don't own the license), but there may be some practical problems (such as being unable to contact key people on the bankrupt side and not receiving requested materials). Contracts still under negotiation come to a standstill and may have to be renegotiated from scratch with a new rights holder (or even just scrapped if the new rights holder isn't interested). I don't know if it's technically possible to start new contract negotiations with a bankrupt company, but in practice it won't happen until the whole thing is over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:31:44 2017 No.17267286 >>17267273 >I don't know if it's technically possible to start new contract negotiations with a bankrupt company, but in practice it won't happen until the whole thing is over. Generally at that point you just outright buy the license.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:33:58 2017 No.17267295 Damn, now SukiSuki is literally never.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:38:02 2017 No.17267309

>>17267286
That's an interesting thought. Buying a license as a localization company and then localize it yourself. Therefore, any profit earned would be 100% your own.

I doubt that the price of buying an entire license would be worth it though.

>>17267295
Nah, it would probably still get released. Noesis went down while they were still translating Free Friends 2 and they still released it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:39:02 2017 No.17267313 >>17256930 There is a mistake in this schedule, Sekai Project is starting 12:00pm, not 2:00pm (so in about half an hour from now). That said, any announcements should be in the first half, since the second half is going to be given to the Fault people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:40:01 2017 No.17267318 >>17267309 >I doubt that the price of buying an entire license would be worth it though. Depends on if the Japanese companies think there's any value left in the IP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:57:02 2017 No.17267370 Sekai tweeted out they won't have a stream because of "signal issues". The transcript guy is doing other panels, so looks like we will be waiting for announcements to show up on Twitter.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:57:09 2017 No.17267371

>>17266281
Heartful Maman will almost certainly be ignored since it's just a cheap nukige. I honestly doubt Tsuma since that isn't very requested. Oyako Rankan at least has a fanbase so maybe. Escalayer or perhaps Ixseal may be the next non-Rance game. Other than those two, most of Alicesoft's non Rance HD gameplay titles aren't really notable. They had a slump starting with Daiteikoku that arguably only ended with Evenicle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 14:58:36 2017 No.17267374 They're going to announce Nanarin and I'm going to kys myself

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:01:38 2017 No.17267381 >>17267374 They're going to show off Baldr Sky screenshots using Aroduc's translation and the shit is going to hit the fan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:06:40 2017 No.17267392 >>17267371 >Heartful Maman Shame, the art is lovely

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:07:38 2017 No.17267394 >>17267371 >since it's just a cheap nukige That's literally half of MG's catalog though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:11:11 2017 No.17267410 >>17267394 We're rounding down from 90% now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:14:41 2017 No.17267429 So did the SP panel start yet or what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:15:52 2017 No.17267431 Aside from a Nekonin update, no one seems to be live tweeting it and Sekai seems slow with their own tweets. Probably will need to wait for the write up afterwards for all the announcements.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:16:54 2017 No.17267434 Eustia soon my dudes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:18:03 2017 No.17267439 File: 418 KB, 2048x1536, DDwKgzaVYAAihsC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is that dovac in the front with the maid costume?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:20:31 2017 No.17267447 It's really depressing to see businesses like ChuableSoft go bankrupt, all while Sekai Project are still kicking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:21:44 2017 No.17267451 lmao I told you guys Sekai Project would keep snapping up the good shit. They're on a roll with all that money coming in from constant KS and Nekopara$$$ https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/881593336431345664

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:28:07 2017 No.17267472 >>17267451 Meaningless unless they announce the complete game in the Denpa panel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:28:10 2017 No.17267473 >>17267318 And how stubborn they are in general. A lot of companies refuse to sell ip they have no interest in using unless the money on offer is ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:28:13 2017 No.17267474 Eustia for SP ((( All ages only. Damn it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:30:52 2017 No.17267484 SP got Dracu-Riot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:31:09 2017 No.17267485 >>17267474 Wait what? They licensed Eustia?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:32:16 2017 No.17267490 >>17267484 Not a surprise after how that Fuwa project tried to pretend that the leaked patch wasn't final and then went silent. >>17267485 That was a troll.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:32:44 2017 No.17267492 >>17267484 Oh boy, getting another translated title. What about Oxford now? Seems they got Nanairo Reincarnation as well.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:32:48 2017 No.17267493

>>17267451
>Silky's
Fuck everything. Why can't Sekai Project just die already? They ruin fucking everything they touch. Why are they even in this business? By their own word of mouth they never wanted anything to do with it, so why in the world did they ever start in the first place? They do no one any good and everyone would be better off without them.
Why aren't they dead already? Fuck Sekai Project. Fuck it all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:34:06 2017 No.17267501 sakusaku coming out this spring, wait, fall, wait, insert next delay here

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:34:56 2017 No.17267504 >>17267484 A shame the daily dose died as that's the most fitting way to end it I could think of

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:35:53 2017 No.17267506 >>17267451 Couldn't they have gone for literally anyone else? FrontWing or whoever. Even Jast would have been preferable.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:36:27 2017 No.17267508

>>17267493
Who knows, they might announce it at the Denpa panel later on.

You know, a lot of the people who hate SP aren't going to buy their games no matter what. But clearly they have a market and all those Kickstarter successes and high-profile licenses just opens up the door for big and better licenses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:37:19 2017 No.17267509 >>17267451 SP are the fucking villains of the VN industry

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:38:04 2017 No.17267513 >>17267484 That's surprising that Yuzusoft even gave them another title when they haven't release the last one yet. I was hoping that them doing jack-all with Tenshin Ranman might make Yuzusoft leave them for another company or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:39:13 2017 No.17267515 https://twitter.com/blitzwingjp started posting announcements from the panel, though they only started with Dracu Riot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:39:14 2017 No.17267516 get your disappointment live boys https://twitter.com/RockmanDash12/status/881597546845487104

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:40:15 2017 No.17267520 >>17267484 Does Insem get a cut or did they retranslate it from scratch?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:40:33 2017 No.17267521 >>17267513 Yuzusoft make so much money in Japan that I doubt they give a fuck about what happening in the west.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:41:25 2017 No.17267523

>>17267513
My surprise as well. I think Yuzusoft doesn't care about the west since they make bucks there.

I just hope that they don't make SP their exclusive publisher.

>>17267516
One title after another. SP destroying everything in their wake. I'm really surprise how they can still survive until now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:41:29 2017 No.17267524 https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/881598369902325760 how does it make you feel that dovac won AX, /jp/?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:41:46 2017 No.17267525

>>17267508
And they mismanage and fail to deliver and each and every damn Kickstarter. And they continue to completely butcher the majority of their products be it through intentional removal or editing of content, and or their typical sheer incompetence that are their in house translators or average freelancers.
And to top all of this off, they are no strangers to outright insult their customers if they aren't happy with the end product. They can seriously go and fuck off forever.

The idea of someone blissfully ignorant being enticed by Sekai Project could be quite understandable. But for someone to come back to Sekai Project after already having wasted their money on them is simply baffling. Fuck they're awful and I wish I could erase them from my life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:41:58 2017 No.17267527 >>17267515 >Baldr Sky slated for mid 2018, dive 1 and dive 2 will be made into a combined release #SekaiAX2017 Welp.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:42:33 2017 No.17267529 >>17267516 this potato quality i can't read anything on the screen but it looks like alice in dissonance's art

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:43:10 2017 No.17267533 Sekai Project has 3 Yuzusoft titles now? Will any of the release this year?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:44:36 2017 No.17267537 >>17267527 Who is translating it? Is there anyone even fast enough to do it at that pace that isn't Aroduc? Or is it going to be a big team effort with multiple translators?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:44:58 2017 No.17267540 >>17267533 Dracu Riot has been done for half a year so if they can't get it out by the end of the year it's just super incompetence

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:45:00 2017 No.17267541

>>17267524
Three Yuzusoft titles in development, wow, how many ways can this go horribly wrong? Did Yuzusoft own them money or something?

This is going to go the JAST-Nitro+ route again. We will have Tenshin Ranman at 100% TL and Edited forever and the rest not moving an inch for the next 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:45:04 2017 No.17267542 >>17267524 I don't think that a company that releases everything 2 years late wins anything desu

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Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:46:32 2017 No.17267550

>>17267542
If they keep getting more licenses and Kickstarter money it's surely a win for them. They can keep on getting more and more by going to the Japnaese companies and saying "look at these piles of cash and awesome licenses we already have" while barely releasing what they already announced

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:46:36 2017 No.17267551 >>17267537 >Who is translating it? Google translation

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:46:39 2017 No.17267552 >>17267537 One of the translators is Aroduc. Because they're illegally using his translation as a base.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:50:21 2017 No.17267569 I am still waiting for Spring Ley Line and SakuSaku releases btw.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:50:22 2017 No.17267571

>>17267527
It's funny because their policy is to not pay out contracts until three to six months after release, so I can just imagine them telling Aroduc in 2016 that he wouldn't be paid until some time in 2019.

Or actually, I can imagine them not realizing or understanding that, but him being completely capable of doing basic math.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:52:39 2017 No.17267582 >>17267451 Aaaaand it's shit now, thank you Sekai

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:53:08 2017 No.17267583 >>17267541 Someone has to wake Yuzusoft up. Nothing is happening to the titles they tried to publish here in the west. Tenshin Ranman is not even released despite being announced a year ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:53:46 2017 No.17267585 >>17236039 With Nanairo Reincarnation being accurate, I take it the Fakku partnership is also happening as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:58:45 2017 No.17267602 So in the end, no maitetsu news Still the denpasoft panel I guess

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:59:07 2017 No.17267605 >>17267583 >Someone has to wake Yuzusoft up. They don't give a fuck about meager western market when they can sold 50.000 + copies of senren banka in Japan.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:59:10 2017 No.17267607

http://www.dualshockers.com/baldr-sky-dive1-baldr-sky-dive2-now-coming-single-package-sekai-project-shares-line

>The localizations of Baldr Sky Dive1 “Lost Memory” and Baldr Sky Dive2 “Recordare” will now come as a single package in early 2018.
>The localization of Wagamama High Spec for PC will release on July 25th.
>The publisher also mentioned that a couple of announcements will be coming at the end of the panel

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 15:59:39 2017 No.17267609 >>17267451 I guess the dream of Gakuen Saimin Reido ever receiving a decent localization is forever ruined now. Unless Sekai Project goes under.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:01:50 2017 No.17267618 >>17267602 If the Fakku partnership is actually happening, then Sekai suddenly has a viable way to release R18 Maitetsu.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:04:24 2017 No.17267634

>>17267607
I just hope that Baldr doesn't have CC tier translation. But its SP, they fuck up thing one way or another.

Its either in translation, release date, contents or a mix of anything.

Basically, if its on SP, consider it already a fucked up release.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:04:36 2017 No.17267635 >>17267607 >Wagamama High Spec for PC will release on July 25th. nice

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:05:17 2017 No.17267639 >>17267451 God why? Why is SP still alive, you were supposed to kill it. I don't want to read an all-ages version of Nanairo for fuck sake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:06:50 2017 No.17267645 >>17267618 What Fakku partnership? Is that a hot new meme?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:06:57 2017 No.17267647 It's been more than two years and that other Yuzusoft title isn't even out yet lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:08:38 2017 No.17267650 >>17267635 Be prepared to wait another 6 months for the 18+ release

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:08:59 2017 No.17267651 >>17267639 At this point, I think that SP is the devil in the VN community. Killing any potential fan translations, destroying current fan translation and raping any games they got on. Someone has to save us from this hell.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:10:23 2017 No.17267655

>>17267524
I like Sekai Project, and even I think MangaGamer clearly beat Sekai here.

Sekai already had Tenshin Ranman which we're still waiting for, and I'm only on my first route of Noble Works, so I already had plenty of Yuzusoft for a while. I haven't heard anything special about Dracu-Riot or Senren Banka that makes me want to play them over other Yuzusoft games.

MangaGamer on the other hand announced Damekoi, a game I've been wanting to play for a long time but hadn't expected to ever get a translation. Evenicle also looks very interesting to me even though I'm generally not very interested in gameplay eroge (though I did love Sengoku Rance).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:10:58 2017 No.17267658 >>17267607 No 18+ news for Baldr Sky? The early 2018 release will be all-ages i suppose?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:11:24 2017 No.17267659 >>17267655 >I like Sekai Project I'm sorry, what? How?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:11:46 2017 No.17267660 File: 248 KB, 1832x781, SP and Denpa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does this make you guys feel?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:12:50 2017 No.17267666 >>17267658 SP's 18+ panel is later tonight.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:13:47 2017 No.17267668

>>17267655
Sekai still has a couple more announcements at their AX panel based on >>17267607 , it's a two hour panel and I take it they didn't want people to walk out with the Fault team. They also have Denpasoft tonight.

Not that they'll necessarily eclipse MG with licenses, at least personally I think it would be tough to beat Damekoi and Evenicle, but it seems to early to declare a verdict yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:13:52 2017 No.17267669 >>17267451 Fuck this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:15:28 2017 No.17267672 >>17267660 All those projects SP will delay/butcher/never release. Sad!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:16:00 2017 No.17267675 https://theoxfordcommaissuperiorsubs.com/2017/07/02/a-good-day-to-dracu-riot-status-update-5/ >We haven’t actually signed a deal yet, but we have no reason to refuse if they’re asking for our help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:16:28 2017 No.17267678 >>17267660 How about a list of the dozen vita/console releases that they will never put out but just keep taking people's money for?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:16:33 2017 No.17267680

>>17267655
>I haven't heard anything special about Dracu-Riot or Senren Banka that makes me want to play them over other Yuzusoft games.
Senran Banka won a lot of awards in Japan and is one of the most popular moege not only for the moe but for the porn too. It's their magnum title.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:17:20 2017 No.17267684 >>17267675 Oh boy here we go again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:17:35 2017 No.17267686 >>17267675 The guy is just playing coy to keep his cred at Fuwa where he has been pretending that the plan hasn't been to license this to Sekai all along.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:18:10 2017 No.17267688

>>17267660
Like Sekai Project should die.
If only Kickstarter could ban them or something. A shame Kickstarter has no standards whatsoever to clean up their own platform and are just happy for as long as long the kickstarters rake in money for them. Sekai Project would go bankrupt over night without Kickstarter to fall back on, considering no actual bank would ever give them a legitimate bank loan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:18:46 2017 No.17267690 >>17267645 This post, >>17236039 , made a week ago was accurate about Nanairo Reincarnation at least, so there is at least some reason to expect the other couple things in the post may be accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:19:06 2017 No.17267694 >>17267675 >>17267684 Aroduc number 2?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:19:24 2017 No.17267695 >>17267658 Mid 2018. It seam that DualShockers misheard that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:19:31 2017 No.17267696 >>17267688 They'd just move to indiegogo man, it wouldn't be a big deal for them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:19:50 2017 No.17267697 >>17267675 >We haven’t actually signed a deal yet, but we have no reason to refuse if they’re asking for our help. >DR patch based on Insem’s earlier work Could Insem potentially stop it if it is based on his work and he isn't part of negotiations?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:19:57 2017 No.17267698 >>17267694 Decay is a Sekai Project sycophant, no chance of that happening.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:20:30 2017 No.17267702 >>17267694 No. See >>17267686. They were sellouts from the beginning. Not like Aroduc who got screwed out of everything seemingly out of nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:20:32 2017 No.17267703 >>17267675 What a stupid fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:20:37 2017 No.17267705 >>17267668 18+ confirmation for Baldr Sky and Eushully partnership would make Sekai comparable to MG license wise at least. MG would still be above if you count the Itaru VN though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:20:39 2017 No.17267706 >>17267697 In theory, yes. In practice, he'd have to go to court over it and I doubt he has that kind of money sitting around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:21:04 2017 No.17267708 >>17267668 >Not that they'll necessarily eclipse MG with licenses Literally nothing can eclipse Evenicle. Even Bald Sky 18+ or Maitetsu 18+ because traslation going to be horrendous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:22:07 2017 No.17267711 >>17267703 >>We haven’t actually signed a deal yet, but we have no reason to refuse if they’re asking for our help. I feel that its more like 'Give it to us or C&D'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:22:33 2017 No.17267714 >>17267705 18+ or not if the translation is CC tier it'll still be shit. I don't want a machinetl translation for a big story-driven VN.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:22:58 2017 No.17267717 >>17267668 Evenicle and DameKoi > a bunch of Dozo lad moege

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:24:07 2017 No.17267721 >>17267711 It's more like "Give to us and get payed" or "We'll use your previously leaked patch or the latest file you sent to us in negotiations anyway"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:24:19 2017 No.17267723 >>17267675 They need to be redpilled.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:24:45 2017 No.17267724

>>17267660
From this list of pending titles, Sekai Project seems like the BIGGEST fucking localization company in existence, including console game companies like NISA or Atlus

They must have a HUGE team of quality translators and editors to put out all of these games in a timely fashion!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:25:04 2017 No.17267726 >>17267708 This. You guys seem to forget what a pile of shit sekai project's translations are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:26:00 2017 No.17267729 >>17267717 True enough but those games, being fucked up into unrecognizable mess though. Its better of for those poor game to be left untouched rather than being translated by an incompetent company.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:26:01 2017 No.17267730 >>17267714 I was saying only license wise. If we took Sekai's actual practices, they would lose by default and lose even harder based on how good the titles were.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:26:19 2017 No.17267731 >>17267714 They've done good work on planetarian, clannad, root double, grisaia. I'm willing to give benefit of the doubt

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:26:22 2017 No.17267732 >>17267726 We're just talking about licenses and business success though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:26:29 2017 No.17267733 File: 43 KB, 565x215, console.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17267678 Just looking through their VNDB page, I couldn't find that many, but I could swear there were more.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:27:59 2017 No.17267737

"Their" translation for Baldr Sky might actually end up somewhat decent. Assuming they're using Aroduc's translation as the base. Even if they butcher it through their own edits while using whatever is cheap to fill in the blanks of what Aroduc hadn't translated yet.

But the idea of supporting Sekai Project and their practise of stealing translations is hardly something I'd like to support. If Sekai Project weren't terrible enough already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:28:05 2017 No.17267738 >>17267731 Grisaia has 18+ troubles and all of those besides Planetarian has had some KS related issues.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:29:05 2017 No.17267742

>>17267731
I don't know who worked on planetarian. But i heard that Clannad tl was shit just like the old fantl. Root Double and Grisaia were not translated by SP translators, it was lemnisca team and koestl.

We don't even know who is working on Baldr Sky and it's not Aroduc so i'm worried.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:31:07 2017 No.17267751 >>17267737 >Assuming they're using Aroduc's translation as the base. This is a bad assumption to make.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:31:15 2017 No.17267752

>>17267731
Their translations all come down to the staff they have on it. The issue though is they are hands off enough that they allowed the editor to go wild in Chrono Clock, while they also don't exactly have the highest quality control in selecting staff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:32:25 2017 No.17267757 >>17267731 >planetarian been translated for decades before Sp picked it up >clannad shitty edition of existing MTL >root double has nothing to do with SP, freelancer translators >grisaia Been TLed and has nothing to do with SP, freelancer translator

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:32:32 2017 No.17267758 New game by the Fata Morgana studio.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:33:26 2017 No.17267762 >>17267731 >They've done good work on They didn't do any work on those titles. They just purchased the licences and then managed to make the end product worse with needless meddling on their part.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:33:28 2017 No.17267763 >>17267758 >mfw I hate Fata Morgana now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:33:29 2017 No.17267764 >>17267758 Really? A game, game, or a new visual novel?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:33:44 2017 No.17267765 >>17267752 >Their translations all come down to the staff they have on it. Meaning that their projects without Lemnisca or koestl pretty much all have poor translations and none of their projects are edited well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:33:57 2017 No.17267768 https://twitter.com/blitzwingjp/status/881611027502161920 NarKarma EngineA, by Novectacle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:33:58 2017 No.17267769 >>17267733 I like how they were going to put WEE out on the Vita using PSM but Sony killed PSM like a year and a half before they even released WEE3 and started working on a console port. Maybe the linux/unity port will come out in 2020.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:34:28 2017 No.17267771 >>17267751 It's possible that they've already got Aroduc's scripts even if Aroduc never agreed to share them.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:35:57 2017 No.17267776
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>>17267731
Planetarian was almost 3 years ago.
Grisaia is made by Koestl, arguable the best translator today.
Clannad had troubles with the text and edition.
Root Double also had troubles in the making and after release.

Everything SP made after Planetarian has been bad in so many ways.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:37:04 2017 No.17267778 ReWrite+ gets to be in SP development hell too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:37:34 2017 No.17267779 >>17267768 I hope the Fata Morgana shills are happy.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:38:02 2017 No.17267781

Why are Sekai Project successful?
How can you be a total ass to your customers. Force people to pay up front through crowd funds campaigns while holding the licences hostage. Not follow through with said crowd fund campaigns. Slander and lie about your business partners. And at last, deliver butchered and terribly handled products.
And still be successful?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:38:29 2017 No.17267783 >>17267778 Wasn't Key self-publishing a retranslation? What the fuck happened?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:38:37 2017 No.17267784 >>17267781 Look at EA games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:39:10 2017 No.17267785 >>17267781 One factor that I can see is the ignorant consumers. Those people that doesn't know the background of the games they buy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:39:27 2017 No.17267788 >>17267781 nekopara + sakura

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:39:35 2017 No.17267791 >>17267781 People pay and buy their titles, that's all. Most of the VN community don't give a fuck about the quality of the translation they just like to eat shit and ask for more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:39:53 2017 No.17267793 https://twitter.com/blitzwingjp/status/881611754479865856 Rewrite

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:40:29 2017 No.17267796

>>17267784
EA games at the very least have big investment budgets and actually fund production from the ground up. As terrible as they are I can still respect in some ways.
But Sekai Project? They're just awful. I seriously do believe the market would be better without them.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:40:49 2017 No.17267798

>>17267781
Meme money and aggressive pursuit of licenses to the point of having no consistent quality to their works.
Also, due to massive amounts of shitty OELVNs on steam SP works are probably considered a fucking masterpiece even with all the issues.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:41:11 2017 No.17267800

>>17267779
Why would I be happy? It's just another drop in the bucket of dozens of other titles they won't get around to for years.

Hell, this one will be even worse since it isn't even out in Japan yet. I don't expect to see it for quite awhile.

>>17267781
Ignorant consumers, Kickstarter spamming, Meme games

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:41:18 2017 No.17267801

>>17267781
>Force people to pay up front through crowd funds campaigns while holding the licences hostage. Not follow through with said crowd fund campaigns.
This is the only part that surprises me. I know people want releases, but with the amount of delays each game comes with it a wonder how they still get funded. Especially the kickstarters that are for already translated games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:42:15 2017 No.17267809 File: 14 KB, 250x242, 1493864139017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >SP Rewrite And here I hoping they are going to re translated ixwrecks mess

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:43:35 2017 No.17267813

>>17267798
>Also, due to massive amounts of shitty OELVNs on steam
Sekai Project are the fucks who oversaturated the market with that crap to begin with. Was this their plan all along?
To lower everyone's standards of the medium so much that their less awful titles wouldn't look as bad by comparison?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:44:19 2017 No.17267815 >>17267813 Probably.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:44:22 2017 No.17267816 We're in the audience ready to take down Dovac.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:46:56 2017 No.17267826 >>17267813 I hate Sekai, but I can't really blame them for that because Mangagamer would have done the same thing if Sekai didn't do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:47:00 2017 No.17267827 Another day of sekai project growing larger. And the industry at large growing shittier and shittier by the second. It wasn't meant to be like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:47:28 2017 No.17267828 >>17267813 >Was this their plan all along? Does this company look like they have a plan beyond grabbing a bunch of licenses?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:47:54 2017 No.17267830 >>17267816 Do your best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:49:58 2017 No.17267841 >>17267828 Yes. Why do you think they haven't gone bankrupt even though they have been screwing things up for years?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:51:05 2017 No.17267845 >>17267841 If sekai didnt have kickstarter would they have gone bankrupt?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:53:12 2017 No.17267853 >>17267845 Maybe. They also have Nutaku's ocean of whales to bail them out if Kickstarter stops working.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:53:59 2017 No.17267861

>>17267828
Naturally no. But it's still frustrating to see things work out for them anyway.

>>17267841
>Why do you think they haven't gone bankrupt
Because every time they're in need of money, they just throw up another damn Kickstarter and they get a surge of money. They just keep repeating this forever and they've even used unresolved Kickstarters of unrelated previous projects, to promote upcoming Kickstarters completely unrelated to the projects that they have still to deliver on. But for some reason people just keep giving them money.

For as long as Sekai Project can rely on crowd funding, and for as long as people actually give money to said crowd funding campaigns. Sekai Project can't die. Instead of filing for bankruptcy they'd just shit out more Kickstarters instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:54:46 2017 No.17267863 >>17267827 >It wasn't meant to be like this. Man, you make me remember the days where localization of VN is almost a secret one. Times where Jast is not yet called Jast. Others who release games without much news. And of course, Insani.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:55:06 2017 No.17267865 >>17267861 So it's like a Ponzi scheme of Kickstarting projects?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:56:47 2017 No.17267868 >>17267861 I'm fairly sure that the Kickstarter cycle is SP's plan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:57:21 2017 No.17267873 >>17267865 That is exactly what it is yes. I mean, fuck. Just look at >>17267660.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:58:09 2017 No.17267877 Evenicle > all ages moeges with shit TL

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:59:03 2017 No.17267881

>>17267873
Not to mention that even for actually released projects. They still haven't fulfilled all the Kickstarter goals and backer rewards. So their backlog stretches even further.
I am not even sure they've even had a single fully completed and delivered Kickstarter at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 16:59:41 2017 No.17267885 >>17267309 Noesis didn't go bankrupt, it just closed down because their main artist left, and it was just a sub-brand of bigger company which is still intact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:02:41 2017 No.17267901 Whats the deal with Rewrite? release when?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:03:05 2017 No.17267903 >>17267885 Noesis was a branch company of InnoGrey yeah, it's not like they are really dead.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:03:38 2017 No.17267908

>>17267877
I'd be surprised if they remain all ages considering they would have been picked up after Sekai started focusing on Denpasoft last Summer and they have even gone back to do R18 G-Senjou. The translation depends on the staff involve, but hopefully Sekai at least puts a leash on their editor to avoid another Chrono Clock.

That said though, Evenicle and Damekoi easily beat out everything announced at the Sekai panel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:03:42 2017 No.17267909 >>17267660 Who in their right mind would choose Sekai to localize their products, leaving them right in the middle of all that crap?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:03:45 2017 No.17267910 >>17267865 >>17267873 So, based on what I read, if they keep taking license without releasing them, they will eventually collapse? Though I wish they can already collapse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:05:35 2017 No.17267922 Just to make sure I'm not missing anything, are these Sekai's localization announcements? Senran Banka Dracu Riot Nanairo Reincarnation Rewrite+ 2 indie games no one cares about. >>17267901 It will end up in Sekai development hell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:06:10 2017 No.17267925 >>17267908 I love moege but Evenicle is better than any moege desu. Good TL from based Aru makes it even better. Cant wait.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:07:10 2017 No.17267929

>>17267910
>they will eventually collapse?
Eventually their business partners, as in the actual developers back in Japan. Might grow sour with them. At which point Sekai Project would actually be in for a hard time for real.
But aside from that? No, not really. For as long as they're able to acquire new licences, and for as long as people foolishly give them money for it. They could probably chug along indefinitely.
Kickstarter for instance doesn't actually require you to follow through on your products. So even in the worst case scenario they could just drop all those projects.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:08:18 2017 No.17267932 >>17267925 I'm looking forward to what kind of crazy nameshit Evenicle will have actually.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:09:01 2017 No.17267935 >>17267922 One of those doujin games is by the Fata Morgana dev

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:10:17 2017 No.17267944 >>17267935 Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:10:47 2017 No.17267945 >>17267935 That just started development and won't be out for years.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:11:08 2017 No.17267948

>>17267935
As much as I like Fata Morgana, it will probably sell like shit even if it is good, so "2 indie games no one cares about" is accurate.

I'm more worried about them picking up Rewrite and Yuzusoft titles. Those will probably sell well, which is unfortuante.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:11:58 2017 No.17267952
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It's true that they assigned a new PR person, so their old twitter is deleted meaning that any tweet that hasn't been screenshotted or otherwise documented is gone.
I really wish that I had shots of any of the tweets where he claimed that fans of eroge weren't their audience, or the one where he outright called fans of eroge to all be pirates. Among other things.

In regards to the Grisaia campaign in particular though.
The kickstarter page as it is now
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/the-grisaia-trilogy-three-huge-visual-novels-for-p

The prefundia page as it is now
http://prefundia.com/projects/view/lets-bring-the-grisaia-trilogy-to-the-west/2814/

The prefudia page as it used to be
http://web.archive.org/web/20141012072719/http://prefundia.com/projects/view/lets-bring-the-grisaia-trilogy-to-the-west/2814/

Their PR lying his teeth out on vndb
https://vndb.org/t6693#15

FrontWing themselves calling Sekai Project out on the bullshit on it being them that had problems with 18+ releases (which is also backed up by the fact that FrontWing cut themselves off from Sekai Project and invested in an in-house localization branch, of which is localizing 18+ titles and doing everything Sekai Project claimed that FrontWing couldn't or wouldn't)
https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4wzu5t/japanese_vn_developer_frontwing_here_ask_us/
>We're not sure where that impression may have stemmed from, but we certainly don't have any issue with releasing 18+ content, or any desire to distance ourselves from it as a company.

I really could go on and on but I'd have to dig through several archives and quite deeply at that in order to find the definitive sources of everything.
And do make note of how most of their licences are mismanaged like this. Not just Grisaia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:12:01 2017 No.17267953 Still can't believe we got Evenicle.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:14:18 2017 No.17267957

It seems the Sekai panel included a bunch of "wait for the Denpasoft panel", so we will probably be getting R18 announcements of the Yuzusoft titles tonight. Provided that includes both Nanairo Reincarnation and the Yuzusoft titles, that would drop the purely all ages titles down to just Maitetsu and Baldr Sky, and if >>17267585 is correct a Maitetsu announcement wouldn't be a huge surprise either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:14:42 2017 No.17267959 So Rewrite when? Is it + version? Kickstarter planned? This year?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:16:14 2017 No.17267967 >>17267922 >Senran Banka >Dracu Riot >Nanairo Reincarnation >Rewrite+ So a game already fan translated, a game already fan translated and announced for localization just now with a change of publisher, and 2 moege that won't come out until 2019.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:17:11 2017 No.17267969

>>17267929
>Eventually their business partners, as in the actual developers back in Japan. Might grow sour with them.

If they just put on leash on SP during the localization. With their incompetent translations, does their reputation here is being affected indirectly? Like that the west will remember their game got a bad translation and people talk about it?

If thats the case, they should cut ties already before it gets worst.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:19:28 2017 No.17267980 >>17267952 Somebody should track SP in their PRs, so that someone can call bullshit on them immediately. And then an archive of all their PRs as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:20:20 2017 No.17267983 >>17267952 What was the old twitter account name?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:22:18 2017 No.17267986 Why are Novectacle not working with our guys anymore?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:22:28 2017 No.17267988 >>17267967 To be fair, Rewrite+ does have some content that hasn't been translated yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:22:32 2017 No.17267989 What the deal with Rewrite? Please explain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:23:31 2017 No.17267994 >>17267986 fell for the kickstarter meme

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:23:34 2017 No.17267995 >>17267986 >our

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:23:48 2017 No.17267996 >>17267988 And Visual Arts announced they would localize it a year ago. The only news here is that SP is publishing it now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:24:42 2017 No.17268000 I really hope Silky's turn to others to work with or invest in trying to localize titles for the west themselves, over working with Sekai. Like most others that have worked closely with Sekai appears to have done. Love Silky's work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:24:43 2017 No.17268001 >>17267989 There isn't enough information to go on until we get the panel write up, as there was very little in the way of information to come out of the panel without a stream, transcript, or person dedicated to doing tweets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:25:32 2017 No.17268002 File: 17 KB, 544x91, Dovac - The Target Audience.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17267952

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:26:21 2017 No.17268004 >>17267986 Pretty funny when the main writer of Novetacle was a MG guest a few hours ago.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:26:35 2017 No.17268007

>>17267986
I'm guessing since MG cucked Fata from Sekai, maybe Keika felt bad or guilty and decided to let them have this one. Sekai flew him out to Animeexpo, so I was expecting something like this, honestly.

Also, Nova has been expressing some interest in doing a Kickstarter, and Sekai is basically the company to do that kind of thing with.

I'd be really surprised if they managed to Kickstart anything. FM's doing well on Steam now, but it took awhile to get there and it's still a pretty niche title, I'm sure most people don't even keep up with the writer/studio at all. If they do do a Kickstarter, they need to ensure it's moderately goal'd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:26:44 2017 No.17268008 >>17268000 Why would they? Japanese companies get a marketing pitch and see their lineup and success. They don't know anything about SP's reputation Email them in Japanese if you want to make a difference

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:29:05 2017 No.17268017 File: 175 KB, 635x438, 1496233464166.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17267983 It was wiped clean some time ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:29:26 2017 No.17268020 >>17268008 I have emailed a few in Japanese before. I've never gotten a response from any of them and none of them have done anything to distance themselves from Sekai yet. Guess it can't hurt to try again though.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:30:53 2017 No.17268028

>>17268000
>I really hope Silky's turn to others to work with or invest in trying to localize titles for the west themselves, over working with Sekai. Like most others that have worked closely with Sekai appears to have done.

Localizing a title themselves is unlikely to produce quality results. No matter who translates something, the result is going to be determined based on the guidelines given to the localization team, how rushed it is, and most importantly the staff themselves. A Japanese company generally would run into issues with judging localization staff skill, and they would more readily see the sort of cheap translation companies that were responsible for the ChuSinGura 46+1 (and it isn't like Dies Irae where a skilled team would seek out the Japanese developer). In much the same way, what was initially seen of Love Sweets looked quite concerning when Moonstone was showing off that they were localizing it themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:31:12 2017 No.17268032 File: 646 KB, 800x900, 1460804524254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have any images/posts/archives of the Sekai employee that got fired and had to gofundme their flight home? Gofundme link?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:33:29 2017 No.17268045 File: 191 KB, 688x1291, Dovac.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17267952

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:34:08 2017 No.17268047 >>17267969 People blame SP for bad translations, not the japanese dev.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:36:32 2017 No.17268057

>>17265025
>it's 2020
>all vn's have been kickstarted
>no fan translations because they've all been bought by dovac
>sekai project still manages to declare bankruptcy
>but wait
>another kickstarter but this time it's for a livestream of dovac committing seppuku
>"I... just wanted to give you guys VN's... I'll do whatever it takes. Just please give Sekai Project another chance"
>even the pirates donate millions
>dovac dies from heart attack before even plunging the blade into his stomach, failing even in death
>we enter into the platinum age of eroge and there are now 8 Hatsukoi fan discs translated
inb4 who quot

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:41:23 2017 No.17268082 >>17268057 Dovac will bleed to death before 2020.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 17:44:34 2017 No.17268099 >>17268082 Yeah that would have been better than a heart atatck. Oh well

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:03:19 2017 No.17268332 I can only hope Frontwing starts picking up big titles too. We need someone else cucking Sekai out of their shit, Subahibi and Sharin was a start..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:08:25 2017 No.17268345 I should be happy when good and or big titles are announced. But when it's Sekai Project it just makes me sad instead.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:15:42 2017 No.17268371

>>17268345
Only Jast remains to wash up that sadness or rage you're feeling right now. I don't expect anything from denpa.

I'm still wondering how SP got those titles. I mean what if MG comes to Silky's or Yuzusoft first, will they still got the same title?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:16:01 2017 No.17268373 >>17267779 Not particularly, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:19:05 2017 No.17268379 >>17268371 I just hope Haro can make good on her Shigeo connection and make sure we get Shinsou Noise before Sekai grabs it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:37:55 2017 No.17268426 File: 113 KB, 1025x696, 1m.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love sekai drones!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:40:04 2017 No.17268433 >>17268426 That Kiriyaaoi guy just spent the past 3 hours shilling hard in the /vn/ thread as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 19:41:31 2017 No.17268435 >>17268371 Sekai has been known to massively overpay for licenses

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:05:12 2017 No.17268483

>>17268426
>kneejerk reactions
Oh that little. This is honestly pretty insulting.
There are no kneejerk reactions when it comes to Sekai Project. They've been in the business for ages now already and are far from the little startup that they used to be (though that doesn't appear to stop them from relying on crowd funding).

I've been giving Sekai Project more than enough benefit of the doubt. More times and to higher extents than I dare to admit. But I regret every ounce of it. They never deserved any of it. They've been consistently awful since they first started.
There is a difference between a kneejerk reaction and simply learning from history. At this point you'd have to blind or blissfully ignorant to not react with despise to just about anything Sekai Project. It's no damn "kneejerk" reaction. Don't insult my intelligence. I've followed, watched, and observed Sekai Project and their products over the years and my opinion on them and on that front, also my reaction to them, have more than a solid basis to stand on.

>In the meantime, let's all appreciate that soon™ we will be able to enjoy the cuteness of more Yuzusoft VNs.
>soon™
Say what? Based on what track record? You'd have to be insane or disingenuously ignorant.
>And everyone can be happy that we have more VNs that we will be able to read in english (eventually™).
Trust me. I'd absolutely love to be overjoyed. They've got some good licences under their belt. But the implication that we'll be able to enjoy them in English when worked on and handled by Sekai Project is naïve at best if not intentionally disingenuous at worst. The quality of their work is outright terrible, and even if the titles don't end up totally butchered then the localization is still most likely of really poor quality all the way through either way. It's not like I want to be disappointed in Sekai Project and feel a pain in my chest whenever they acquire a good licence. I'd love for them to actually be capable at what they do, but their track record (and attitude, but that's its own story) have showed us that they're clearly not. What kind of person wouldn't you have to be to ignore that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:08:39 2017 No.17268490 >>17268483 I'm almost certain that guy is an actual shill. His rationalizing for some of the issues that Sekai has was, "Well, I support Sekai overall because they offer merchandise I can buy. Mangagamer doesn't do that except at cons!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:16:20 2017 No.17268507 Don't worry guys, Nutaku is still to come so your day can still get worse!~

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:17:06 2017 No.17268510 >>17268507 Nutaku has yet to touch any titles I actually care about, so I'd be surprised.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:18:55 2017 No.17268513 >>17268507 >nutaku I'd be surprised if they could actually pick up anything worthwhile. Also its not 9pm PST yet so my day can get far worse before it ends. Too bad I wont know until my break at 2-3 in the morning.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:21:52 2017 No.17268518 >>17268513 >I'd be surprised if they could actually pick up anything worthwhile. Whether they will is up for debate but Nutaku (and big daddy Mindgeek) has many times more money than MG or Sekai, so they definitely could get some good things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:25:19 2017 No.17268530 What depressing news to wake up to. At this point I just want to give up this shitty hobby.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:26:45 2017 No.17268540 File: 7 KB, 519x78, 1438081880141.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17268530

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:28:09 2017 No.17268544 >>17268032 https://twitter.com/ellyberries/status/877259068930269184 https://twitter.com/ellyberries/status/877613625715732480 https://twitter.com/Regris_Kallen/status/878802532574797825

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:28:50 2017 No.17268546 >>17268540 They didn't get Little Busters, so my favorite VN has been spared. I'm glad for that at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:29:57 2017 No.17268549 >>17268530 Just learn Japanese anon. Then you'll finally be free

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:33:12 2017 No.17268561 >>17268530 But what about these two cool and fresh OEVN Sekai had in store for you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:41:25 2017 No.17268577 >>17268544 thanks dude, archived

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:46:43 2017 No.17268588 >>17268544 Do you think she still wishes them the best of luck?

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:48:24 2017 No.17268592
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Ok, so that post the other day about Nanairo ended up being correct. His other posts weren't *too* juicy, but there's some more insider information that has been more-or-less confirmed now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 20:57:46 2017 No.17268609 >>17268592 Maitetsu 18+ through Fakku confirmed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:04:03 2017 No.17268622 >>17267658 are they still refusing to even confirm that it will be censored?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:04:54 2017 No.17268629 >>17268530 Or you could stop being a faggot and learn japanese.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:15:18 2017 No.17268640

>>17268609
Provided the Fakku partnership happens, I would expect Maitetsu to go through there. It probably has been in the works for some time though, since they went from saying don't ask us about Maitetsu to saying they were working on a solution before AWA last October (and commented that they were still working on that solution a couple months ago in one of their streams).

>>17268622
At the same panel they discussed that they were working on a solution for Maitetsu, they basically said good luck about Baldr Sky. It's quite conceivable that if there is a Maitetsu announcement tonight, that Baldr Sky remains their only title without an R18 version planned, with G-Senjou getting an R18 patch announced at ACEN.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:16:58 2017 No.17268645 >>17268592 doesnt really surprise me at all that Dovac still has the final say in everything

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:25:37 2017 No.17268673

>>17268592
Aside from Fakku being a possible avenue for Sekai to handle controversial titles through, if they are jumping into the VN market then they are one more potential publisher to watch for announcements at AX. With that in mind, to add to the schedule in >>17256930
, their panel is Monday night at 10pm (thus directly after the Frontwing panel).

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:28:03 2017 No.17268679

>>17268640
>>17268673
Also, that post mentions *two* Sayori nukige. I'm presuming they're talking about the monster girl nukige she's doing artwork on. I believe I saw some magazine pictures being thrown around in /hgg/ for it months ago.

Either that, or they're also going to announcing the Koikuma fandisc. I still think it's hilariously stupid they're going to even attempt to do an all-ages version of that. Fucking morons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:31:30 2017 No.17268691 >>17268679 All-ages eroge are actually a really good decision if your customer base is retards. You get to bank on the "critical success" of the original work, and you get to skip translating a giant chunk of the text.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:32:39 2017 No.17268696 >>17268691 Koikuma is a really fucking lewd game, though. Then again, Steam seems more and more willing to accommodate raunchy content, so they might not even have to cut out too much.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:33:04 2017 No.17268697

>>17268679
>I still think it's hilariously stupid they're going to even attempt to do an all-ages version of that. Fucking morons.

They actually did announce it as only R18, until Sayori announced otherwise. I think doing an all ages Koikuma is going to lead to a ridiculous result, but I also think that it is probably good business (especially since it will probably get a strong following from China like Nekopara does).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:33:45 2017 No.17268699 >>17268691 They're doing the 18+ version you retard The question is why they're bothering with a Steam release in the first place for a nukige. And the answer is obvious, when Sayori's previous works have sold over 1 million+ on Steam

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:38:36 2017 No.17268707 >>17268345 I used to feel this way about JAST until Sekai came.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:44:34 2017 No.17268714 That Eternal Project that Sekai announced from some new Japanese studio looks copied and paste Shaft style based on the PV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtpr6PJ8Fc

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:53:16 2017 No.17268725

>>17268707
I'd still rather take my chances with Sekai (which has been hit or miss) than Jast especially now with the 18+ problem mostly disappearing as they focus on Denpa. Even Grisaia, their most delayed title, was an AX 2014 announcement and is nearing completion of the third title 3 years in, while Jast still has multiple titles announced at AX 2011 with no release date in sight. Even Sekai's localization issues seem to be from just letting localization teams work with no oversight, Chrono Clock would have been acceptable had it not been for the editor having "brilliant" ideas about how to spice up the script and no one stopped. It isn't like Jast isn't prone to hiring substandard staff either, Flowers wasn't exactly in great shape when it was released, and the only reason it got improved at all is because Jast decided to do a demo which got quite a bit of backlash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:53:17 2017 No.17268726 >>17268714 The guy said it was based on SHAFT on his website. I would laugh if it really was outright tracing, but I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:53:26 2017 No.17268727 >>17268714 >some new Japanese studio Nope

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 21:59:26 2017 No.17268741

Based on comments, it seems Rewrite is being done from scratch instead of using Ixrec's mess (or at least Sekai is saying as much). Amusingly though, it also seems like the Amaterasu did get paid for their scripts by VA, that are no longer going to be used.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:00:19 2017 No.17268746 File: 536 KB, 636x518, from the makers of a trannie VN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17267758 Interesting how they jumped ship.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:03:21 2017 No.17268755 >>17268746 Seems like SP has deeper pockets than MG Must be that Kickstarter and Nekopara cash

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:04:45 2017 No.17268759

>>17268697
If anything, MG would probably benefit if they were more willing to create Steam releases, especially now that they are providing free 18+ patches when they can. MG said during their panel they weren't planning on a Steam version of Damekoi, but between its catchy English title and having the Saekano author it would probably benefit greatly from a Steam release.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:07:26 2017 No.17268770

>>17268746
I assume you weren't here when Fata first got licensed? The original ship jump was Keika opting for Mangagamer over Sekai Project. Dovac was pissed as hell, he even threw a fit on Twitter about it.

Might just be Keika giving them the bone this time. Either that, or they brought up the big bucks and convinced him that way.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:16:21 2017 No.17268795

>>17268725
Sekai getting a title is almost a guarantee that it will end up an awful release.
At the very least with Jast it's basically a flip between getting a decent to good release or not getting at all. Which is admittedly not that great either, but considering that the releases that they do release are fine, Jast aren't a hopeless cause.
And if anything, with how Sekai have been operating lately, taking longer and longer to get their titles done. With certain titles dwindling indefinitely without ever actually seeming any closer to release than before. They barely even have that on Jast any more.

Sekai are just the worst. They're simply the worst.
And on a side note. Jast/Jlist actually have great customer service. But enter a discussion with Sekai about an issue and they're more likely to just tell you to go fuck yourself one way or another.

Jast still does good work once every blue moon.
Sekai on the other hand the industry would be better off without.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:16:47 2017 No.17268796 >>17268770 I just remember that Fata's English version was supposed to be released by Playism. I wasn't aware Sekai had anything to do with them.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:16:49 2017 No.17268797

>>17267781
It will happen eventually. All there needs to be is another company to take over for Sekai an alternative if you will. An alternative that is better.

Frontwing is the only one i know that is being aggressive and is definitely going to make a big push into the market in ways unforseen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:18:38 2017 No.17268805 >>17267813 To me it was to saturate and make as much money as they could even if it was shit on a stick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:19:45 2017 No.17268808 JAST panel in ~2 hours, folks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:20:15 2017 No.17268810 >>17267816 頑張ってください　アノのくん

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:21:05 2017 No.17268812

>>17268796
Playism fell threw because it was too expensive. Sekai and MG both approach them. Keika goes with MG. Dovac throws fit.

That's the sequence of events that I remember, anyway. I expected them to be doing something with Keika since he said that Sekai was specifically flying him out there, but I thought it might be for one of his light novels or something. Didn't expect an entire new game. I'm guessing that the Sekai decision most likely stems from Nova wanting to do some Kickstarter stuff, and I bet you anything that MG most likely turned that down or told himt hat Sekai was better for that kind of thing. Of course, that's just my speculation.

It's a shame, though, that they seem to be opting for their Vita artist instead of Moyataro. It just looks like generic animu now. Pity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:22:07 2017 No.17268816 >>17268812 >Playism fell threw *through

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:22:08 2017 No.17268817 >>17267929 Frontwing could contact them and do it for them. One persons loss is anothers gain as they say.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:23:49 2017 No.17268821 >>17268812 Did they say they were too shy for kickstarters? I remember something like that on MG's blog. Unless I'm misremember them for another company.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:26:51 2017 No.17268828

>>17268821
>We also considered using Kickstarter or another crowdfunding platform to cover the expenses. But crowdfunding is a lot of work! And with us already rather busy with the novel and manga publications, adding a crowdfunding project to the chaos would put us even further from working on something new… and we didn’t want that. Also, we’re deathly shy, so putting ourselves in the spotlight with something like Kickstarter would be pretty rough.

You're right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:30:55 2017 No.17268836 >>17268426 >Not to insult and attack people you disagree with oh im sorry is criticism defined as hate speech now? Especially calling out their track record and proving your point? These people just appreciate anything even if its crap.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:32:53 2017 No.17268839

>>17268755
SP is known for being more likely to fork over money for a deal or offer a kickstarter to provide such money. They have been continuously in the red while Dovac was active on Twitter, and as their habits seem to be the same overall, they are probably still in the red. I wouldn't be surprised if as soon as Nutaku stopped directly supporting them, they went over to Fakku to try to get money by enticing them with the untold riches of the eroge market.

Mangagamer is a lot more self sufficient in comparison. Their first KS is trying to do something really experimental rather than trying to fund a VN localization everyone and their mother wants.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:34:12 2017 No.17268844 >>17268839 Wouldn't MG make more money and have it sooner if they did KS for big projects? BTW, is Baldr Sky going to have a Kickstarter?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:34:39 2017 No.17268845 >>17268839 dovac always cry poverty but he pays for first class and has a new office.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:38:48 2017 No.17268854 >>17268844 Not sure. MG may gained a lot of money, but have lost a lot of money through various kickstarter related difficulties. Only games I could have seen having a successful crowdfund are Rance and maybe Shin Koihime anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:40:40 2017 No.17268859 >>17268844 Baldr sky already has an announced release date. Not that would exactly stop Sekai from having a kickstarter though. I could imagine an indiegogo for the 18+ edition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:44:22 2017 No.17268863 >>17268714 What is this a chinese knockoff of Shaft? This is embarrassing. >>17268726 it does not even need to be racing the outright copy and paste just shits on the style alone and makes it look like a kid made this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:47:43 2017 No.17268868 >>17268725 I would like to see what JAST says or announces. It does look like they could give us a bone this year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:53:23 2017 No.17268884 >>17268868 9PM for Denpa 9:30 PM for JAST I think Denpa might be more impressive because the Sekai panel was surprising better than I expected but JAST could beat Sekai with Muramasa (actual release date of the game aside).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 22:55:22 2017 No.17268895 >>17268844 They could if they translate the titles early and have all the merchandise ready through a 3rd party.

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 23:01:00 2017 No.17268914

>>17268795
Wagamama High Spec at least looks like it will be fine, there wasn't anything glaringly wrong with a brief look at the demo (and for what its worth, they retained honorifics). They really haven't released that many full length titles yet ( especially where they didn't outsource the translation) to judge from. Clannad came out well enough while Chrono Clock was a mess because of baffling localization choices and brisk release schedule. I just hope that with the upcoming parade of moege coming from Sekai, Wagahigh is more representative than Chrono Clock.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 23:19:51 2017 No.17268976 >>17268746 Word is they wanted to target console, which mg can't do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 23:21:03 2017 No.17268983 >>17268976 Neither can SP but they can promise it and never deliver

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 23:28:49 2017 No.17269004 >>17268859 >>17268844 >>17268859 Yes, it's going to have a kickstarter for a 'hardcopy' version, with a bunch of overinflated costs that make no sense to cover up that it's actually for the licensing fee and translation costs. Source: Dovac

Anonymous Sun Jul 2 23:39:42 2017 No.17269032

Hopefully we get a better flow of information out of the Denpasoft panel than we did with Sekai earlier. The transcript guy plans to go to the Jast panel, so there shouldn't be any issues there. With as long as AX is running though, it is quite a shame that there is a ton of overlap this evening with the relevant panels.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 2 23:42:04 2017 No.17269038 >>17269032 >a shame It's deliberate. If you think you're more popular than your competition, you schedule your thing for the same time as their thing and your fans ditch their thing in favor of your thing. End result, the other guy gets crap turnout.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:06:45 2017 No.17269090 Spoiler for... Someone Two of https://vndb.org/p1992's games have images in the lewdgamer's image directory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:12:23 2017 No.17269105 >>17269090 They just uploaded majikoi shots. Probably unrelated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:16:02 2017 No.17269119 >>17269105 lewdgamer isn't the only one that's uploaded them either fyi(I don't wanna give the whole game away), also judging from other stuff, probably an 18+ release for nanairo reincarnation judging from some other uploads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:21:49 2017 No.17269128 >>17269119 No one cares about spoilers, just spill the beans

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:23:23 2017 No.17269134 >>17269128 I am giving away the spoilers, I mean I don't wanna just give away the sites that don't have permissions set(so that I can use them to do the same thing in the future) I gave you one site

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:24:18 2017 No.17269140 https://twitter.com/blockwonkel/status/881727988936564736 Denpa grabbed 18+ Maitetsu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:25:22 2017 No.17269143 >>17269134 Anyway, I'm seeing a filename for https://vndb.org/v17272 That has an english subtitle of "Curious Tale from the Shrine Chapter Rin" Also lewds for most of sekai's announcements so

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:26:29 2017 No.17269146 >>17269140 Our predictions were correct after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:26:40 2017 No.17269150 >>17269140 Do you forgive dovac yet /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:27:38 2017 No.17269153 >>17269150 Has he unfucked Aroduc? Then no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:28:25 2017 No.17269156 >>17269150 Not while SP still has that bad habit of releasing rushed and incomplete translations while delaying R18 patches for over a year because no one can be assed to do them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:29:31 2017 No.17269158 >>17269150 Doing one thing right doesn't erase all the shit they've done

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:30:31 2017 No.17269162 Transcript guy has the Jast page live.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:30:38 2017 No.17269164 File: 854 KB, 1000x1384, machine_child_jast_usa_main_image_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] jast spoilers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:31:03 2017 No.17269166 >>17269162 Link the transcript?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:31:53 2017 No.17269168 >>17269166 http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php?panel=0

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:32:15 2017 No.17269170 >>17269134 Also looks like nanairo reincarnation might be non-mosiaced?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:32:19 2017 No.17269171 >>17269164 Not unexpected. By the way, this isn't going to 18+ right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:33:59 2017 No.17269174 >>17269164 Wasn't that the VN oyari was crowdfunding? I would buy. Beats Sekai, by virtue of my fetish for gynoids. Female cyborgs are cool too if I misunderstood the premise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:39:29 2017 No.17269182 >>17269174 >Wasn't that the VN oyari was crowdfunding? raising sim but yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:42:34 2017 No.17269188 Fucking JAST. Why won't you price match or at least have a sales discount that is the same as your Steam library?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:43:40 2017 No.17269191 >>17269168 Thanks. Don't forget to enable live refresh.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:46:59 2017 No.17269197

>>17268714
>from some new Japanese studio
Kek.

http://z9.invisionfree.com/Class_3A/ar/t6586.htm

>So ETERNAL's an original visual novel project I've been working on for the past two years. Figured I may as well make a thread.

>I'm suffering from constant writers block, there's next to no work on the editorial front, and we still don't have a programmer. Most of the routes have been drafted though, there's a decent sample of music, and the visuals are being partially handled by a professional animator from Japan.

>The concept of the game is basically more image heavy than your typical VN, almost along the lines of a motion comic. Taking heavy SHAFT influences on this with text cuts and the like, alongside multiple camera angles per character sprite.

>The Tumblr page is here, with the linked twitter account here.

>Making games is suffering.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:49:30 2017 No.17269206 >>17269197 >>December 3, 2014 >>I've been working on for the past two years >In development since at least the start of 2013 Incoming masterpiece

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:50:48 2017 No.17269214 Flowers sequel confirmed. Not that there was any doubt...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:51:28 2017 No.17269216 >>17269168 >Princess X caused current boom in Monster Girls I have my doubts, but I wouldn't blame JAST for trying to oversell it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:51:39 2017 No.17269217 Judging from the images and tweets it sounds like denpasoft's panel is just going to be a retread of the sekai panel but with them announcing porn versions for everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:51:50 2017 No.17269218 >Summer edition >Winter release lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:54:25 2017 No.17269226 JAST GOT MAJIKOI

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:54:32 2017 No.17269227 >>17269105 Now do you believe me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:55:05 2017 No.17269228 >>17269226 Fuck yes!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:55:24 2017 No.17269229 >>17269226 They annhilated Sekai. I'm impressed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:55:29 2017 No.17269230 >>17269227 To be fair I thought it was unrelated to the denpasoft panel. Can't wait for no majikoi ever. JAST trademark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:55:47 2017 No.17269231 >>17269217 Seems the final result is everything has an 18+ version now, except for Baldr Sky. Hard to think Giga isn't the holdout in this case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:56:39 2017 No.17269233 Welp. JAST is going to be fucking loaded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:57:09 2017 No.17269235 >>17269233 How many people will buy it when it already has a fan TL?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:57:50 2017 No.17269238 >>17269233 To be honest I think that's the end of their wad, the rest has been spoiled above and it's nothing too hot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:57:51 2017 No.17269239 >everything announced today will still be released before Sumaga

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:57:52 2017 No.17269240 >>17269228 >>17269229 Monkey paw. It's now going to take forever to come out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:58:33 2017 No.17269242 >>17269235 You underestimate Majitards. There's so many of them. >>17269238 Money-wise, I mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:59:16 2017 No.17269246 >>17269235 A TL quality check and edit should be enough of an incentive. Who am I kidding, this should be re-translated from the ground up; the current Fan TL is mediocre at best

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 00:59:55 2017 No.17269249 Huh, looks like that's all jast is announcing, so I guess >>17269143 is Sekai? Or Nutaku?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:00:03 2017 No.17269250

People should really ask in the JAST Q&A why everything is taking so long. Although doddler do briefly touched on the subject (for example, QCing only after getting the full translation instead of in increments only to find out later that the translator sucks).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:00:30 2017 No.17269252 >>17269240 Sekai would force it to take forever after a catastrophe of a kickstarter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:01:35 2017 No.17269256 >>17261855 J-List posted their last ad on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:02:24 2017 No.17269257 http://operationrainfall.com/2017/07/02/ax-2017-denpasoft-announcements-lots-of-18-goodness-on-the-way/ denpa's announcements since they can't even tweet them themselves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:02:27 2017 No.17269258 >>17269252 I'm just glad Sekai didn't get it. Can you imagine a Majikoi Kickstarter? Probably would've been another million bucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:03:45 2017 No.17269262 >>17269257 >not even willing to post Maitetsu Honestly someone could probably send in an article to some gaming blog about how Sekai is selling lolicon material and they'd probably get fucked

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:05:13 2017 No.17269265 File: 3.64 MB, 5031x3579, 1495937298252.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17269262 Just give this to Polygon and Kotaku and they'll stir some shit up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:05:37 2017 No.17269266 All 3 were pretty strong this time. Hard to decide a winner

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:05:46 2017 No.17269267 >>17269256 Anonymous that was literally a month ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:06:20 2017 No.17269268 >>17269266 >JAST >strong Even if they announced Muramasa, we all know they wouldn't have it out for a decade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:06:24 2017 No.17269269 >>17269258 Yes, now the ongoing translations of the A games will be stopped and JAST will take ten years getting them out. I have no idea why Majifags would be excited for news about this. Maybe they don't know about JAST VN limbo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:09:24 2017 No.17269272 >>17269269 As long as it's not Sekai™ - /jp/ motto

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:09:28 2017 No.17269274 >>17269266 We've still got frontwing tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:12:30 2017 No.17269281 File: 384 KB, 2048x1530, DDyOYAHUAAApR_2.jpg:large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sup, Peter. This is just like in my visual novels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:14:59 2017 No.17269287 >>17269272 They confirmed 18+ stuff so all is forgiven

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:15:32 2017 No.17269289 Horse's mouth https://twitter.com/Denpasoft_pr/status/881742302237958144

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:16:35 2017 No.17269293 http://www.strawpoll.me/13343527

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:16:53 2017 No.17269294 File: 142 KB, 1200x675, reelcooldood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So nothing VN related came from Nutaku? I guess that's for the best.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:17:04 2017 No.17269295 >>17269287 Baldr Sky 18+ is still not confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:18:07 2017 No.17269302 >>17269289 I bet it will be heavily censored, with all more problematic heroines' scenes removed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:19:26 2017 No.17269304 >>17269295 If Sekai is willing to find a way to make Maitetsu work, I doubt Giga would have been willing to give R18 Baldr Sky to any localization company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:19:27 2017 No.17269305 22:18:58 <bay\|AX\|JAST> Q: You announced Sumaga a while ago... 22:19:01 <bay\|AX\|JAST> A: We're working on it...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:19:57 2017 No.17269307 >>17269170 Denpasoft just twit the image I was basing this on: https://twitter.com/Denpasoft_pr/status/881743351099170816

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:22:29 2017 No.17269313 >>17269305 Game was announced over 5 years ago and they still can't even say how far along it is. Nitro+ sure chose the best company to partner with.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:22:50 2017 No.17269315

>>17269266
Taking into consideration business practices, Mangagamer by a mile.

Simply taking licenses in account, I think MG is the strongest still because of Damekoi, Magical Marriage Lunatics, and especially Evenicle.

Sekai has moege power and 18+ Maitetsu, but the latter should have been announced a long time ago, and there's no Baldr Sky 18+ confirmation either. Rewrite was announced last year (if under a different publisher) so there isn't really hype for that. To be fair though, they did announce the most titles.

JAST got fucking Majikoi, automatic 2nd place not counting Frontwing. It'd say that it's at least the equilvalent to Evenicle in license strength if not more. Machine Child has potential and might benefit from the Princess Maker games making a splash in Steam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:24:13 2017 No.17269320 I hope frontwing sent out a PR so their announcements can be spoiled too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:28:23 2017 No.17269326 >>17269307 Also worth nothing that is that I didn't see any unmosiaced shots for the yuzusoft titles, nor did they twit any so...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:30:36 2017 No.17269329 >22:27:00 <bay\|AX\|JAST> Q: Muramasa? >22:27:06 <bay\|AX\|JAST> A: The goal is to do Muramasa Soon™

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:34:48 2017 No.17269333 Do you guys think Maitetsu will have a kickstarter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:36:38 2017 No.17269336 >>17269333 A better question Would anyone have the balls to back a maitetsu kickstarter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:37:34 2017 No.17269340 >>17269305 >JAST's Sumaga turns 8 on the 7th What a world, that's as old as my niece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:39:26 2017 No.17269344 >>17269315 This sure is an interesting one this year. Its hard to decide who wins the AX this time, they got different titles this year. Well, I still think MG won this one, Damekoi is quite the hooker here. Quality over quantity for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:39:30 2017 No.17269345 >>17269336 Tons of people are giving patreonbux to people making H-games with characters that can be perceived to look underage. It's really not that big of an issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:44:11 2017 No.17269354 >>17269340 I remember the fan translation starting when I was a senior in highschool. Time passes by fast,

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:44:47 2017 No.17269355 >>17269313 you could have studied all the way up to JLPT 1 in 5 years...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:46:43 2017 No.17269359 File: 1.01 MB, 1200x675, jp-kun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17269294

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:54:53 2017 No.17269371

>>17269326
Nah, man. They'll say that they tried to get the uncensored artwork for them but they were lost/discarded/drawn over with the censors.

Then a year later, they can release it uncensored and act like they are so great for getting the uncensored artwork after so much trial and tribulations.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:57:18 2017 No.17269374

>>17269315
I like the variety this time around. We are in a strange time.

Mangagamer ends up listening to what the fans had asked for. I know I asked for monster girls and I have that with Marriage Lunatics hopefully it does well enough for more. Damekoi was highly requested and its not a bad title especially that it has good story behind it.

Also liked that they had Space Idol and a physical announcement for Rance and Umineko which makes me happy. Only thing that confused me though is which is on Steam and which is on their site.

Sekai I do have to admit did stick to more style over substance which is kind of odd but alright. But either it's good they stick to moege power right now instead of branching out to far like they did the last 3 years.

JAST I am just happy they exist lol but I hope they can release Machine Girl in a reasonable time frame.

I hope Frontwing can have a good showing as well. They really need to get running because this is one of the better years for all the companies right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:58:19 2017 No.17269376 >>17269345 How much do they give per month? That is just crazy lol.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 01:58:38 2017 No.17269377

>>17269257
It wasn't included in the Denpa writeup either, but it doesn't seem like they are hiding it, since it was the first thing they put on Twitter when they were doing updates. Perhaps it was a last moment confirmation? Either way I'm guessing it just wasn't included in the press release if it didn't make their own write up.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:27:41 2017 No.17269463

>>17269150
/jp/ will never stop hating Sekai. Hating Sekai is a goal by itself; the reasons to hate Sekai are irrelevant. When Sekai does something right, people will find a new reason to hate Sekai. Instead, they pull shit like >>17269262 and >>17269265, proving once again that Sekai really shouldn't be listening to /jp/.

>>17269262
>>17269265
People like you are why we can't have nice things. I understand you want Sekai to suffer, but please consider the overall implications your actions have - not just Sekai, but every company will be less willing to license controversial stuff when they can get in trouble over it. Even just the threat of it already works against the odds of that kind of stuff being licensed. Don't sacrifice the rest of the industry to attack Sekai.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:30:11 2017 No.17269466 >>17269463 cutest shill post i've seen all day desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:32:51 2017 No.17269472 >>17269466 He's 100% right though >Sekai better release 18+ maitetsu >18+ maitetsu is confirmed >heh, lets tell polygon and kotaku they're selling loli and get them negative press Hypocritical as fuck man

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:38:22 2017 No.17269482

>>17269472
There's no reason to refer to yourself in the third person, friend. And you must be extremely naive and new to this website if you actually take those kind of shitposts seriously.

In reality, bitterness against Sekai will continue until we see actual results. Words are nice, and those announcements were a step in the right direction, but the company has many other issues other than a (previous?) hesitation to publish certain kinds of 18+ content.

If they want to mend wounds which have been formed over years, then they will have to spend and equal amount of effort to do so.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:39:01 2017 No.17269484

>>17269463
>When Sekai does something right, people will find a new reason to hate Sekai.

So what should people do then, have opinions made of paper? Sekai has been so consistently poor in practice that a couple good decisions is nothing, especially when their CEO has openly expressed dislike towards what amounts to the average /jp/sie.

If Sekai improves and stays improved into the future, eventually most people will come around, but a few games not being cut down for all ages isn't a big deal, it's the baseline that other companies operate on. Hell, if you count things not directly related to VNs, they only just jettisoned an employee without a way to get home a week ago.

Fuck that sabotage shit though, doesn't help anyone.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:45:56 2017 No.17269502

>>17269463
Listen. Let's put it like this: MG was a gigantic fuck up from their inception to around 2013ish. Back before Sekai came around, MG was regularly shit on here for terrible translations, slow releases, and for being NukigeGamer. They started wising up around the time that Sekai started grabbing far more interesting licenses (even if they were of already translated games), and pushed into more ambitious territory. They started communicating with the community more (they were absolutely terrible at PR like Sekai is), they fired shitty translators and got better ones, and they got more interesting licenses. After around 2 years of that (I would say 2015), their reputation around here started getting a lot better. This was helped a bit by the contrast to Sekai's reputation, which even back then wasn't great, and JAST never released fucking anything. Thus, MG's reputation shifted from being absolutely terrible to being the only good option for the 'core' visual novel fans.

Sekai giving the fans the 18+ content they've been crying for is a start, but that's all it is. And they have a reputation for lying and massive delays. Let's not forget the numerous Kickstarter promises they still haven't held up. If Sekai genuinely improves, and does this for about a year or two, then their reputation will shift and became more positive. That's just the way it is. You aren't going to heal years of wounds in one night, but it's a start

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:54:17 2017 No.17269517 >>17269502 Sekai wasn't really a thing until 2014, and by then MG had already started changing.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 02:59:57 2017 No.17269530

>>17269463
It takes more than doing the right ting once to absolve all your past wrongs. All this 18+ stuff they announced for things like Maitetsu should have been there from the start with no fucking around with non answers for over a year. Same goes for things like Baldr with no news but leaks of bad news about mismanagement from Aroduc. If these projects weren't fully negotiated and not ready then they shouldn't announce them until they are.
In the end all they have done is took a single step in the right direction (or more back to the starting line) and with their track record they can easily take two steps back again with all the delay and other problems they still have. Give it a few years of good decisions and opinions might start to change.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:02:50 2017 No.17269534
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>>17269463
Oh that's fucking hilarious.

Let me get this straight, according to you, Sekai doing something right=well I guess everything from them is forgiven. Wow, that's amazing. Let me tell you something, what do you mean "we can't have nice things"? We can't even have "things" to begin with because this company is so incompetent and lives on Kickstarter. They LIE to the customers, they delay things constantly to an almost ridiculous degree, they have absolutely 0 transparency and even revel in that fact and the worst part is that they have people like you to shill for them. Let's not forget that yeah, they announced some R18 stuff but it was literally only like a year ago that they pretended Denpasoft was a part of their company that didn't exist.

They deserve absolutely no money from their consumers. They deserve honestly no indication of being anything remotely good as long as they keep being the way they are. You say "when Sekai does something right". I say "how long will that fucking last". You wanna know something funny? Early this year, I was starting to turn around on SP. Even though they delayed it because they forgot Christmas exists, they released R18 Meikyuu and Chrono Clock (sort of) on time. I thought they were getting their shit together but then they release a fucking 84% completed job. Holy shit, 84% edited, because of course they did. It's SP after all, not to mention no R18 Rakuen anytime soon. Then Ley-Line got pushed back from Spring to Summer to '2017 maybe' and we're right back at square one

Announcements and confirmations are only that. Delivering on their promises is something that they just cannot do in a timely fashion

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:05:07 2017 No.17269542 I want to remind everybody that JAST's last major release was Seinarukana. That was 2016

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:05:50 2017 No.17269543

>>17269463
>people will find a new reason to hate Sekai
That's not really true. Most people hate sekai for things they did in the past.
Doing one nice thing doesn't retroactively erase all the other times they acted like assholes.

This is besides the point but it's going to take a lot to make me forgive them for killing Aroduc. I'm forever grateful to Aroduc for translating Galaxy Angel. I fucking loved those games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:06:09 2017 No.17269545 >>17269542 How are they even still alive?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:06:52 2017 No.17269546 File: 35 KB, 400x400, f3ZZ5kTO_400x400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17269545

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:08:06 2017 No.17269549 >>17269542 JAST operates on the good credit it's earned over it's lifetime. They better get some shit down the pipeline soon though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:09:46 2017 No.17269557 The fact that people are praising Sekai Project for doing something the company should have been doing normally is a sign of the sorry state they were in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:12:44 2017 No.17269568 >>17269557 It's probably that faggot who's been shilling super hard here, in reddit, and the live streams after selling out. It's just like when that other fag chuee sold out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:13:33 2017 No.17269572 >>17269557 This reminds me EXACTLY like /v/ and when video games do something 'right' in the sequel. For example, like Battlefront II having a story mode and droids and stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:13:58 2017 No.17269574 >>17269542 JAST is slow. Sekai is slow, fucks up everything they touch, lies to us, is openly antagonistic, spews OELVNs, etc etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:15:50 2017 No.17269578 >>17269574 SP is slow but JAST is like a snail. Sumaga was announced more than half a decade ago. I was entering college back then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:16:50 2017 No.17269580 >>17269568 Pretty funny when the people on Sekai's payroll come here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:20:59 2017 No.17269588 >>17269578 Jast is so slow that I can't even gather the will to get angry at them. I just don't care anymore. Sometimes I completely forget they have other things besides Sumaga in development hell. Like Django, Schatten and Sweet Home.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:24:59 2017 No.17269599 >>17268032 https://youtu.be/s55Acsi0P_c

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:48:21 2017 No.17269663

>>17269502
It's less of them wising up and more of, Sekai was so incompetent that it made MangaGamer's efforts to do it the right way so much more obvious.

They were already cleaning their act for a while but unfortunately everyone still wrote them off. Mostly because they still needed a ton of nukiges to survive. In fact, it was MG that entered the Steam market first with GGN but it didn't catch on yet.

Honestly, if Nekopara had chosen to work with MG, I wonder if the market would still end up in this state. Might actually be worse off since even if MG got the cash after that, they would still be lacking in translators. Then again, we wouldn't have to worry about butchered translations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 03:54:50 2017 No.17269673 Reminder that Sekai flooded the market with Sakura garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 04:10:50 2017 No.17269695 I think I will send an email to Polygon and Kotaku.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 04:24:47 2017 No.17269723 >>17269695 Bad idea desu If it backfires it'll just be free publicity and worse case scenario is that they just pull the H and sell it anyway

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 04:44:50 2017 No.17269773

Now the event is over, it's literally nothing right?

How much "already translated" stuff can they milked out? Majikoi,subahibi,dracu-riot,rewrite+...

At least we got proto-type white album 2

And didn't moogy and co withdraw the subahibi translations to sell it out to frontwing? How is that any different than dracu-riot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 04:54:41 2017 No.17269787 >>17269773 It's not. We gave Moogy and Kirby plenty of shit for that too, but they sold out years ago so they bitching had subsided.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:01:33 2017 No.17269808 >>17269723 Any better suggestions then? Complaining about them hasn't worked, and trying to convince a willfully ignorant consumer-base is like trying to take down a concrete wall with your forehead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:02:56 2017 No.17269813 Where can I actually discuss "visual novels" in english? Vndb=dead, /vn=shitposts, jp=shitting on sekai and dead discussions, fuwanovel= lul, reddit= oevl, dead site, kickstarts. Should I learn chinese so I can discus it there?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:05:31 2017 No.17269822 >>17269813 Why don't you just learn Japanese then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:10:18 2017 No.17269832 >>17269813 Dead, shitposts, Sekai, lul, oelvn and Kickstarters are the English VN industry. Better get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:27:24 2017 No.17269853 Only one secret project left for MG, huh? Guess Otakon will be pretty uneventful this year.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:43:33 2017 No.17269885

>>17269853
At this point I just want MG to announce financially smart license deals. Damekoi is cool and all but it probably will be a so-so seller. Evenicle will sell like hotcakes obviously.

But they should start going after the big bucks, like Lune and wstar. Something like a Bishoujo Mangekyou would sell so fucking well here. I just don't want Sekai to get anymore lucrative license deals. They have Yuzusoft which they will Kickstart for all three of those titles, Rewrite will also probably give them a ton of money because of fanboys, etc. Just hoping it doesn't get to a situation where Sekai is just able to buy out all the competitive licenses because they're just able to throw wads of money at everything and no one will care since they can just replenish funds with Kickstarter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 05:48:40 2017 No.17269895 >>17269813 Make a discord server? IDK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 06:06:34 2017 No.17269920 >>17269853 If I recall, they said that they have projects that they haven't even announced as secret projects, so we might see more than one there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 06:08:15 2017 No.17269922 >>17269885 Biman will never ever happen It's just not possible for us to have nice things so instead we get that Finnish retard who can't speak Japanese or even proper English doing it instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 06:37:24 2017 No.17269983 >>17269813 JAST forums

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 06:38:53 2017 No.17269990 Frontwing is going to announce Eushully and August stuff and win this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 06:49:10 2017 No.17270039 File: 45 KB, 600x480, 1491077337232.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >18+ Maitetsu and all Yuzu's games Holy shit, based Denpa. Gonna forgive Dovac now I guess.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 06:57:04 2017 No.17270056

>>17269463
You know that not butchering and intentionally censoring their products should be a bare minimum, right?
Yes not intentionally ruining your products is a good start, for Sekai Project at the very least, but you can't exactly expect a ton of praise and appreciation for something they should have done from the very beginning. The idea of selling eroge without ero is pretty ridiculous to begin with, and if you want no part of it you should have probably entered another market in the first place.

Their problems extend far further than that so this by no means transforms the entire company.
Perhaps if all these titles, against all odds, actually end up having good localizations in addition to not being censored and or being all-ages only. And they're able to keep up said quality, not just once. But perhaps twice or even thrice. By then people might actually start to view them a bit differently.

Of course even that were to happen it most likely wouldn't change the fact that Sekai Project are pathological liars. Regularly lie to and or deceive very own audience and just over all quite disingenuous over all. Even disregarding all the times they explicitly insult their very customers. And they're absolutely terrible to work, and they'll lie and or slander their business partners much in the same fashion they would their customers. Like when they try to divert the blame of their delays onto the original developers when it was really them all along. Or just recently when they sent one of their employees on a business trip, only to fire them, and then not even cover the expenses to travel back. They're a joke to everyone involved. Their ignorant Kickstarter backers included. How they used Aroduc's translation in negotiations without Aroduc and then basically stole his translation without his consent while putting pressure on Aroduc to stop translating forever and end his website. And to this day they still haven't fully delivered on a single Kickstarter and the number of incomplete projects of both past years and the future is simply staggering at this point.

And let's not forget. The quality of their translations do not look like they'll improve at all. While what I claimed if their quality was to improve and say improved, above should hold true to some extents. That's nothing but a fantasy at this point anyway. It's no secret that Sekai Project employs rejects who were rejected from other outlets due to not being competent enough. Like how Dracu Riot is being translated by "Clephas" at this point. Or how their most recent titles were knowingly released outright incomplete. The list goes on. I mean, even when they managed to get their hands on one of the best translators in the industry to freelance for them, they still fucked it up to the point that the original developer distanced themselves as far as they could from Sekai Project and invested in their own localization branch in an attempt to set things right.
And by the end of the day, all of this is still merely the tip of the iceberg. Sekai Project's problems run deep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 07:04:17 2017 No.17270079 >>17269895 yo id be down for a /jp/ VN discord

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 07:14:15 2017 No.17270101 >>17270039 Until it turns out that Yuzusoft games will be censored and everyone will talk like a chav. Do we have any idea that the translators behind them are actually competent and not fuwa-tier?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 07:20:45 2017 No.17270115 >>17270101 >censored I like mosaic. >everyone will talk like a chav That would be bad. I hope they fired faggot who did this shit in CC.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 08:33:22 2017 No.17270338

>>17270115
Yeah most uncensored art is pretty bad and I would have preferred the mosaics. The artists obviously don't care that much to draw genitals properly if they're going to be censored in the first place (although manga/doujin artists do a great job sometimes)

The preview for Nanarin's art looks pretty good though, that fingering scene is improved by the lack of censorship.
https://denpasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/HG010902-300x169.png

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:07:34 2017 No.17270418 Jast got Majikoi? Great now get "Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de"

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:10:03 2017 No.17270430

>>17269502
MG starting point was always further along than Sekai's. When they were considering censoring Soul Link, people complained and they actually listened to them instead of cursing at the customer.

Before they started licensing big nukige and the big bucks started rolling in, a lot of people hated them because they were reliant on shitty small nukige to stay afloat. Even then, they tried to provide a story title once in a while as a passion project, even though they weren't overly big sellers.

After managing to get big nukige that sold really well like Ultimate Boobs War and Imopara, they got more purchasing power to get big licenses. Coincidentally, Sekai started rising up at about this time, and gave Japanese companies hope that they could make it big in the West. Both of these factors probably lead to the strong line-up MG has today when before, MG's licenses were generally weaker than JAST's.

Sekai making MG look that much better helps MG's image a lot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:13:07 2017 No.17270446 >>17270430 Too bad MG doesn't have more licensing power.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:14:22 2017 No.17270452 >>17270446 Rance is a pretty big title.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:21:27 2017 No.17270483 >>17270446 Shuffle and Koihime Musou

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:21:34 2017 No.17270485

>>17270056
>Or just recently when they sent one of their employees on a business trip, only to fire them, and then not even cover the expenses to travel back.
That's not what happened. They relocated to be closer to Sekai's physical offices and then couldn't afford to move back to their hometown. Sekai is shitty enough without you having to make shit up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:22:36 2017 No.17270493 >>17270485 >They relocated to be closer to Sekai's physical offices On Sekai's request.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:24:28 2017 No.17270501 >>17270115 >I like mosaic. >>17270338 >I would have preferred the mosaics What point is there having a western release if it's censored?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:25:12 2017 No.17270504 >>17270493 Yeah, and? It's completely normal for a company to ask employees to move to work for them. That's not malpractice or anything, unlike lying and stealing money from customers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:29:35 2017 No.17270525 >>17270501 Having english text instead of runes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:31:44 2017 No.17270539 >>17270504 They had her move for a job that didn't exist. They should've realized from the beginning that they didn't need someone to manage their ficticious otome/BL branch.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:34:39 2017 No.17270552

>>17270446
I am mostly just bothered with Sekai Project having as much licensing power as they evidently had. Otherwise I'd wager that more competition would just be good for the industry.
It's hard to see Sekai Project contributing in any way though. All they're doing seems to be hurting the market over all with their shoddy business practices and terrible quality work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:39:00 2017 No.17270565 >>17270504 >Yeah, and? It's completely normal for a company to ask employees to move to work for them. And when they do, they also typically actually get to work for them. But not with Sekai Project.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 09:43:23 2017 No.17270577 File: 122 KB, 691x776, 1499030067968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So why did sekai project never actually exit the market? What changed?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:12:36 2017 No.17270660

>>17270577

They can't compete with the big boys. They'd never be able to be as hated in proper video games as an EA or Konami or even fucking NISA, but this way they get to be the biggest fish in a small pond. They are literally worse than Hitler when it comes to VNs. Dovac probably jerks himself bloody to the wailing and gnashing of teeth that ensues whenever they announce a new big license to butcher.

Plus all that Kickstarter bullshit doesn't fly without a heaping dose of desperation. It's hard to think of any video game licenses they could get that people would be willing to burn money to fund an atrocious translation of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:25:06 2017 No.17270703 >>17270485 They asked her to move and then laid her off. Which is why she didn't have money to move back and had to resort to gofundme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:28:51 2017 No.17270714 File: 319 KB, 628x553, Summer in Winter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That feelio when JAST is going to be green this week.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:41:49 2017 No.17270744

Little Busters update

>Baba himself stated on the stream that the project is just about finished, and they just need to polish up some stuff with Little Busters’ own version of the Dangopedia. Their current target is to have it out by the end of August

https://kazamatsuri.org/little-busters-10th-anniversary-mission-start-all-latest-news-visualarts/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:45:26 2017 No.17270754 >>17270744 >Only on Steam and without H-scenes. Fuck that, I know that Key is bad with these scenes but they should at least give us another version uncensored or a patch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:47:51 2017 No.17270760 >>17270744 >Dangopedia I'm glad they have this. Clannad had a bunch of references to shit I didn't know anything about and having what are essentially TL notes was helpful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:51:25 2017 No.17270771 Little Busters almost done. Rewrite+ handed over to Sekai Project. Still waiting on an update for Angel Beats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 10:55:32 2017 No.17270782 >>17270754 I doubt Key will ever release officially anything 18+ in the west.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 11:00:49 2017 No.17270802 >>17270782 We must convince Visual Art's to localize Iris' games!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 11:23:04 2017 No.17270876 >>17269119 Damn that didn't take long to get fixed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 11:33:37 2017 No.17270914 Looks like Amaterasu team is mad that Visual Arts scrapped their work and is having Sekai retranslate the entire VN from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 11:40:02 2017 No.17270928 >>17270501 >What point is there having a western release if it's censored? What's the point of it being uncensored if it looks like complete trash? I don't like mosaics, but at least it's less distracting than terribly drawn genitals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 11:56:33 2017 No.17270966 >>17270577 seriously why do some people even defend this company when they have people that have this mindset?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:10:34 2017 No.17271025 >>17270966 Dude, they sacked him like year ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:34:36 2017 No.17271105 >>17271025 They made him silent you mean. He's still important.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:36:59 2017 No.17271116 >>17270754 With Little Busters, the original version was all ages at least. It's not ideal, but VN wasn't meant to have H-scenes originally anyways.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:42:08 2017 No.17271134

>>17271025
Shini and the others are just as bad. They were all of the same mindset. It's how they were friends and started a business together in the first place. Dovac is arguably not even as bad in comparison. And Dovac is hardly sacked. He is still heavily involved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:45:07 2017 No.17271147 Was the 18+ version of wagahigh actually confirmed for a 25th of july release?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:46:27 2017 No.17271154 I think people are too harsh on dovac. Look here https://twitter.com/Good_Haro/status/881238792283144193 Haro was stuck in AX's forever long line and dovac offered to go out of his way to bring her a Red Bull as a pick-me-up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:48:23 2017 No.17271165 Damn, now 18+ Monobeno is not just a dream!

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:52:11 2017 No.17271184

>>17271134
Even before he was 'sacked', Dovac would make threats and policy announcements at whatever whim, including firing people whenever he felt like it, but when it came time to place the blame, it was always "Sekai Project Japan" that he claimed got his marching orders from whose whims always completely aligned with his tantrums. He'd claim that his corporate masters that were responsible for all evil were up at 4am, prowling all the twitter feeds of their employees for slights against him, and deliver the order to immediately fire people for disloyalty.

If you thought that him lying about and blaming Japanese companies was something he did only for Kickstarters, you're completely wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:52:51 2017 No.17271187 >>17271154 wow, Good Haro is a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 12:57:21 2017 No.17271206 >>17271187 She just said no thank you. I wouldn't want that stuff either. It's honestly overkill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:06:51 2017 No.17271262 >>17271165 Nobody's going to put in the effort required to produce a decent translation for Monobeno. You could just read it now with a machine translation and get the same experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:13:28 2017 No.17271289 >>17271262 Believe in /our guys/ SP!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:14:57 2017 No.17271298 >>17270928 There is always the option making the mosaic less severe. I've seen pretty good "uncensor" versions where they lowered the size of the pixels to allow more detail to be seen without showing the art is actually terrible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:16:08 2017 No.17271308 File: 395 KB, 1494x2071, DDvfdnXXsAMLk04.jpg:orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who here has 400 dorrar?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:17:27 2017 No.17271316 File: 68 KB, 768x362, Curious Fujoshit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:20:19 2017 No.17271325

>>17270577
The reason Sekai is still in the market is because they noticed they can't stay afloat on their 2 dollar profit Steam VNs and need to run kickstarters, and the only kickstarters that bring in money is eroge.

You can still kind of see their opinion about VNs as they sell them for 50% off, while gameplay VNs like RabiRibi never passes 30%. VNs are just trash they want to get rid off and pretend they never sold, while they can't survive without them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:21:22 2017 No.17271332 >>17271308 Overwatch DVA figure is 450 dollars, so that painting looks cheap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:28:24 2017 No.17271375 >>17270754 Honestly LB! might be the only VN where I don't care for ero scenes. The original release was non-ero and I can't personally picture Riki as a sexual creature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:29:19 2017 No.17271381 >>17271025 Dovac is owner and CEO of the company, he can't be "sacked".

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 13:37:46 2017 No.17271422 >>17271187 I just don't like Red Bull. It was very nice of him to offer though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:46:46 2017 No.17271474 I wish Dovac was still allowed to post here. We really brought out the worst in him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:50:46 2017 No.17271504 >>17271422 You respond to the strangest shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:51:30 2017 No.17271507 >>17271504 Implying that's really Haro and not Doddler roleplaying as Haro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:52:26 2017 No.17271515 >>17271422 Good. Buying Red Bull means you're giving money to this piece of shit. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39427291

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:54:27 2017 No.17271528 >>17271515 I only drink Rockstar Lemonade. All other energy drinks I've tried taste like crap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:55:57 2017 No.17271533 >>17271187 >>17271206 Have you seen dovac's tweets lately? Guy's coughing, sneezing, farting and bleeding everywhere. You REALLY shouldn't accept food from people in that condition.

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 13:58:22 2017 No.17271547 >>17271504 I'm just bored right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 13:59:33 2017 No.17271553 Energy drinks causes heart arrhythmias.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:00:05 2017 No.17271558 >>17271375 I just want to see mindbroken Komari getting raped. It sounds kinda fun. Also NotMio, can't remember her actual name.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:00:47 2017 No.17271563 Stop bullying dovac he's bringing 18+ Maitetsu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:01:43 2017 No.17271569 >>17271547 Then tell us the weirdest shit that has happen in this year's AX. >>17271558 Midori. And I'm with you, I want to watch Sasami's H scenes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:03:58 2017 No.17271579 >>17271558 >Spoiler Wait, what? Riki does that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:03:59 2017 No.17271580 >>17271547 If you want something to do, did you know that the sidebuttons on http://blog.mangagamer.org/ still link to mangagamer's banned ask.fm?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:04:04 2017 No.17271581 Damn you, MG and SP! I wanted to kill myself but now I am forced to waiting for Evencicle and 18+ Maitetsu.

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 14:05:04 2017 No.17271587 >>17271569 Honestly nothing that weird other than the abrupt shift in adult content policy at the con so far. It's more poorly run than usual but that's not that strange considering it is AX

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 14:06:08 2017 No.17271595 >>17271580 Whoops. Can't fix that from my phone in the dealer's hall though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:08:30 2017 No.17271607 >>17271595 When you get around to fixing it you should probably link the announcements page somewhere on the blog too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:08:34 2017 No.17271609 >>17271422 Just to confirm, Space Live wasn't secret project 1?

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 14:10:41 2017 No.17271618 >>17271607 It is linked on the main page under the slider >>17271609 Secret project 1 is still unannounced

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:10:47 2017 No.17271620 >>17271609 It is EVN. There is nothing to translate.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:10:55 2017 No.17271624

>>17270914
Seems pretty wasteful by Visual Arts though. A few thousand down the drain if it was thrown out.
Either they found that working on the script to fix it would cost more than doing it from scratch or they did it as a PR move after seeing comments on Ixrec's reputation.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:11:01 2017 No.17271625

I like how half of the images on denpasoft's announcement page linked to the thumbnails instead of the larger versions that are on the site.

Then they updated it and just completely took out the links on the broken ones.

Is there anything they cannot fuck up?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:13:47 2017 No.17271642

>>17271579
I haven't played it but from the CGs it looks like you can make Riki fuck Komari when she regresses and starts seeing Riki as her brother. I'd say that counts as rape.
Also, remember all that time Midori spent cockteasing Riki? Well, you can take her up on it in the version with sex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:18:45 2017 No.17271658 >>17271618 Thanks >>17271620 It seems to have been written in Japanese originally at least, though I'm glad it wasn't a Secret Project. It would be like making Go Go Nippon 2017 into one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:24:10 2017 No.17271683 >>17271587 Any chance of dropping AX in favor of another con next year?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:25:28 2017 No.17271686 File: 154 KB, 293x380, 1398446548592.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17270914 >Degica thrown out Ixrec's fanfic of Muv Luv >Visual Arts thrown out Ixrec's fanfic of Rewrite Top kek. Will Ixwreck ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:27:59 2017 No.17271696 >>17271642 Well shit, I kinda want the 18+ version now. Even though I don't really see Riki as someone who would have sex with anyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:28:18 2017 No.17271698 >>17271686 >Top kek. Will Ixwreck ever recover? He got paid for both scripts anyway. Sounds like a win.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:31:37 2017 No.17271713 >>17271696 I think Riki had impliced sex in Yuiko's route in the original game.In Ecstasy, she's the one with more H scenes in the VN. And well, if you know Yuiko, you know why is that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:32:38 2017 No.17271719 The most disappoint part of LB was the overly-hyped baseball game. The practices were more fun than the game itself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:40:56 2017 No.17271758 So JAST has pretty much said... Eiyu Senki - Summer 2017 Princess X - Fall 2017 Flowers Summer - Winter 2017 Katahane - Early 2018 They haven't learnt not to give out release periods yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:42:37 2017 No.17271767 >>17271758 That Flowers date isn't too unrealistic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:43:44 2017 No.17271770 >>17271686 Wasn't Degica working with Alternative Projects for the translation of the side stories? I'm not sure why they'd throw out Ixrec's trash but keep those guys around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:45:29 2017 No.17271782 >>17271686 Didn't they just edit Ixrec's translation of Muv-luv?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:46:01 2017 No.17271787 >>17271758 Eiyu Senki and Flowers seem conceivable. I have doubts about Princess X and Katahane though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:46:54 2017 No.17271791 >>17271758 Are they retranslating Katahane from scratch or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:46:57 2017 No.17271793 >>17271782 They ended up redoing huge parts of Extra+Unlimited and it seems like they just threw it all out for Alternative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:47:25 2017 No.17271795 >>17271782 It was so thorough that it doesn't resemble the original translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:48:30 2017 No.17271800 >>17271791 This is too fast if it was done by scratch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:51:52 2017 No.17271819 >>17271791 I'd think they are. The original translator was MIA from the internet for years until recently, when some anon sent her an email telling her how much people liked Ayakashibito.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:51:53 2017 No.17271821 >>17271791 I believe they mentioned somewhere the fan tl was given an editing pass and only the new content was translated from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:56:40 2017 No.17271840 File: 532 KB, 1920x1366, maitetsu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i sure am looking forward to maitetsu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:57:08 2017 No.17271844 >>17271713 I heard about that Bad End one, but is there a scene for the Bad End where Riki confuses Kanata for Haruka, leading to Haruka committing suicide?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 14:57:51 2017 No.17271849 >>17271840 Delete this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:21:01 2017 No.17271942 >>17271840 Go away, MG shill. SP has more guts than MG who are pussy and can only release short fake lolige.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:26:51 2017 No.17271965 >>17271942 Fun as this trolling is, I wonder if uncut maitetsu will be enough to make MG actually consider picking up a real full-length lolige?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:29:40 2017 No.17271974 >>17271965 Not untill SJWs like Haro remains in charge of picking vns for MG.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:35:06 2017 No.17271996 >>17271974 She doesn't get to decide what they license. She didn't want Himawari licensed either, but Conjueror still translated it.

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 15:36:23 2017 No.17272000 >>17271996 At least try to make up something believable

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:36:38 2017 No.17272002 File: 305 KB, 800x945, 59776633_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17271996 >She didn't want Himawari licensed either Why would she want to deprive us of kamige?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:40:30 2017 No.17272009 >>17272000 I heard about you being booted from an irc channel for freaking out about people who'd buy Himawari due to it being loli.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:41:42 2017 No.17272013

>>17272000

If you're bored enough to play with trolls on 4chan, you're probably bored enough to take some questions right?

I'm the guy who generally makes the con cards ala >>17256895 and I was thinking it might be fun to give something to whoever makes the most accurate prediction. Would that be something MG would be willing to sponsor a game for or would it be pointless to even ask? I ask because they've sponsored shit on reddit, so I figured maybe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:43:55 2017 No.17272024 >>17272002 Because she is evil fujo. They hate lolis even if lolis happens to be in a kamige.

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 15:45:52 2017 No.17272030 >>17272009 No, I was dunking on some dudes because they were talking nonstop about Maitetsu for like two months and they couldn't take a joke. >>17272013 Hmm, I could suggest it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:45:54 2017 No.17272031 >>17271974 Evospace picks MG's titles. I dunno where people get the idea that Haro does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:47:24 2017 No.17272039 I will jack off to uncensored Maitetsu in English thanks to SP!

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 15:47:39 2017 No.17272043 >>17272031 I have no more voice in licenses than any other staffer. Evo makes the final call on what to pursue, staff offer input/make arguments for games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:47:45 2017 No.17272045 >>17271308 Remember Art is a luxury item not a commodity. That is usually why it is expensive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:48:11 2017 No.17272046 >>17272031 I think she might only effect what BL/otome titles they license. It's not like many other people at MG know about those genres in order to make informed suggestions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:49:47 2017 No.17272055 How long do we have to wait for Quest?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:49:59 2017 No.17272058 >>17272030 >they couldn't take a joke What was kind of joke gets you banned from an irc?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:50:31 2017 No.17272062 >>17272043 Would you have betrayed Aroduc for Kouryuu like Doddler did for Dovac?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:51:45 2017 No.17272072

>>17272030
>Hmm, I could suggest it

Well I was just curious if it was even worth sending an email around otakon but if you want to pitch the idea that sponsoring a giveaway on a tiny board on 4chan is a good idea, by all means. I'm sure that's better odds than me just sending an email.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:52:40 2017 No.17272079 >>17272055 Hopefully forever and Rance 6 was the last Ranceshit MG licensed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:53:29 2017 No.17272084 >>17272030 Oh Haro, since you stopped answering questions in the MG's curiouscat, do you have any news about the Linux version of Umineko?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:54:53 2017 No.17272089

>>17272009
Loli himawari isn't translated. Or well, it is translated, but conjueror won't release the fan translation because he is buddy buddy with the all-ages maffia.

Rumor has it that there is still sex CG in the remake though. But it is never hyped up to boost sells.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:55:06 2017 No.17272091 >>17271474 If he ever comes back I want to introduce him to brap posting.

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 15:56:39 2017 No.17272098 >>17272084 No idea. I need to get back to that but most Q's we've gotten I can't really answer or it's just "I dunno"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 15:57:08 2017 No.17272100 >>17272091 Judging by his twitter he's probably reading the thread anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:04:22 2017 No.17272120 Based SP BTFO SJWGamer!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:04:32 2017 No.17272121 >>17272072 Oh and if you get an answer on that, you can just post it on the vnts and I'll see, as I don't do anything else with my life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:08:48 2017 No.17272138 >>17271942 >Maitetsu >lolige lol

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:08:51 2017 No.17272139

>>17272100
I am surprised he was even allowed to post anything like that. He is basically under house arrest social media wise.
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/881920165180350464
What exactly does he do now though? If he isn't CEO or doing any day to day things then is he only there out of obligation of being former CEO?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:10:01 2017 No.17272144 >>17272139 Because he's a pathological liar, and he is once again lying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:10:26 2017 No.17272146 >>17272139 He is still making a lot of decisions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:12:39 2017 No.17272157 >>17272043 plz back Quof up when he makes the case that https://vndb.org/v17972 is totally a good & safe pickup for him to translate

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:14:13 2017 No.17272164 File: 3.64 MB, 5031x3579, 1439006617662.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17272138 Seems lolicious enough to me. I would still prefer Monobeno though. Japs folklore > trains.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:17:00 2017 No.17272173

>>17272139
He handles merch and such it seems, as he often promotes it when they get some stock and such. (Which he probably needs to do as who actually visits Sekai when they can visit Denpasoft?)

He also requests people to be gotten rid of in discord if they don't like all-ages. In case anyone imagined he had improved from before.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:17:22 2017 No.17272176

>>17272164
being generous, there's 4 lolis, but even if there were 5 lolis and 3 adults, it still wouldn't be a lolige.

also yeah the train stuff is boring as shit, but then again i think Monobeno's Japanese Folklore would probably require an in-game glossary for Western readers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:17:30 2017 No.17272177 >>17271533 Sounds like it is contributing. https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/881918727154835456

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:19:11 2017 No.17272184 File: 456 KB, 560x702, 1468960670558.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17271533 >lately It was the same last year His twitter is nothing but him complaining, mostly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:19:31 2017 No.17272186 >>17272177 Now we know why he was offering it to the competition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:23:24 2017 No.17272204 >>17272173 He's also the one who was gaslighting Aroduc for six months and scuttled the entire Baldr Sky deal with his red pill dominance bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:24:36 2017 No.17272210 >>17272176 Imagine Sekai translating Monobeno like they did Chrono Clock because they can't figure out a good way to render half the cast's speech.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:24:46 2017 No.17272213 >>17272176 There's 3 lolis, 1 toddler, 1 JC, 2 adults and 1 JK. Still seems like lolige to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:24:52 2017 No.17272215 >>17272043 Haro, since Silky's seems to be partnered with Sekai, should I kiss my hopes of seeing Shinsou Noise from you guys? ;_;

>>	Good Haro Mon Jul 3 16:29:39 2017 No.17272242 >>17272215 I think DMM's involvement is a bigger complication, but idk

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:32:11 2017 No.17272254

>>17272210
i think i was joking with someone about that months ago, would be funny if they gave some of them southern accents like the country bumpkins they are

>>17272213
lolige = all cast is lolis

it also usually includes a creepy fucking protagonist.

i can't really call Maitetsu a lolige just because it features a few lolis, around slightly less than half of the (segmented) h scenes don't have lolis, the text is mostly pre-occupied with train infodumps, politics, economics, industrialization, etc. also, Hachiroku and Reina are constructs btw. it isn't like 通心ぼ where the protagonist is a creepy teacher spending his time with lolis all day and the text almost entirely preoccupies itself with the idea of that kind of forbidden love.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:33:48 2017 No.17272262 >>17272242 Why has the entire official community turned its back on fan translators?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:36:36 2017 No.17272280 >>17272254 >usually includes a creepy fucking protagonist. You cant actually expect something like this to be released in the modern toxic Western environment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 16:44:56 2017 No.17272316 >>17272215 The bigger problem is definitely going to be DMM. Silky's and Liar soft didn't have all that much involvement in Shinsou, and in the end DMM was still the publisher. Nutaku has the closest ties with DMM right now, don't they?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:05:33 2017 No.17272416 >>17271154 Lost opportunity for a title drop. I am disappoint

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:13:54 2017 No.17272452 >>17272416 Title drop of what?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:26:19 2017 No.17272492

>>17272254
>it also usually includes a creepy fucking protagonist.

I've basically suggested galette's titles for mangagamer's survey for the last 3 years for that reason as their protagonists are a little less creepy than the genre standard, but I guess I'm the only one who played them(as I've never seen any of their translators even mention them, whereas I've seen conjueror talk about tanuki soft and quof talk about marble candysoft). Too bad I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:33:32 2017 No.17272507 >>17272492 conju-poo and quof are fake lolicons. posers.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:43:26 2017 No.17272531

Does the corporate stalking anon ever do anything relating to whether or not the company is profitable? I wonder if it would be possible. If Sekai is really in the red every year the reason they have projects stalled is because they literally don't have enough cash to fund everything at once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:45:44 2017 No.17272534 Bald Head 18+ in 2025! Based SP and based Dovac!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:48:26 2017 No.17272538 >>17272534 Since SP got Maitetsu 18+, it seems fair to blame Giga for the steam only release.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:51:04 2017 No.17272544 >>17272452 No thank you

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:55:37 2017 No.17272561

>>17272531
It is impossible to estimate the internal costs from the outside, so one could not reasonably estimate how their internal finances look. It does seem like though they have been working to reduce costs where they can though, but that was an inevitable consequence of going from sales well into the 5 figures on major titles to low to mid 4 figures as the Steam craze fell off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 17:58:36 2017 No.17272578 >>17272492 I don't even know of any lolige with creepy protagonists. It seems like rapist guys focusing on loli rape only find creepy guys I guess. I just look at the true love lolige and they are all pretty good.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:01:26 2017 No.17272597

>>17256930
Itaru's Q&A didn't have anything too important (besides maybe the fact that Mangagamer taking her to theme parks was a factor in her joining), so I don't think Ran Yamakaze's Q&A will be too important.

Frontwing is the biggest wildcard right now. They probably need some moege at least to compete in the market more.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:02:07 2017 No.17272600

>>17272531

Not enough information to make that kind of judgement, especially for SP.

In the case of mangagamer, You might be able to make a somewhat reasonable guess at their yearly revenue using the tracker and steamspy, but it'd be very difficult to try to figure out expenses and operating cost so you couldn't figure out profit or losses. A more realistic goal would be figuring out if an individual title was successful or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:06:21 2017 No.17272623 >>17271758 >Flowers Summer - Winter 2017 Why so fucking slow, damn i hate jast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:06:38 2017 No.17272625 >>17272578 You're in too deep to really be a good judge of what's creepy, anonymous. The kind of taking advantage of naivete in most lolige is considered by most people as "creepy", even when it isn't rape.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:07:13 2017 No.17272630 >>17272531 Evenicle probably costed MG fortune. Dunno how they got it desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:08:57 2017 No.17272637 >>17272630 That game doesn't interest me at all. Why is it so hyped? Just because it's alicesoft?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:10:29 2017 No.17272642 >>17272637 Moogy Approved™ to be better than Persona 5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:11:38 2017 No.17272652 >>17272642 Persona doesn't interest me either, so I guess I won't understand

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:11:59 2017 No.17272654 >>17272642 Fuck off nobody care about moogy the fat fuck, it's hyped because it's a good RPG with Senran Kagura artist that's all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:12:44 2017 No.17272657 >>17272597 I am hoping they can come up huge.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:13:23 2017 No.17272660

>>17272561
Anything cheap enough still sells 100k copies. And no game ever sold that much if it wasn't cheap to begin with so it isn't like it was huge profits on Steam craze.

The only thing stopping this "craze" is money, as people can't afford to buy 10 VN for 30 dollars each as much as they can afford to buy 10 VN for 10 dollars total.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:15:55 2017 No.17272674
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Took JAST 4 yeras to negotiate this license.

Minatosoft must have talked to Mangagamer and SP too, so why was it rumored all this time that they hate the West and localizaton never ever? You'd think someone would have dropped the fact that they were shopping around since it's not that confidential

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:16:51 2017 No.17272678 >>17272637 3D JRPG, Senran Kagura artist, Cartel approved Alice soft's game. Literally kamige.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:17:36 2017 No.17272685

>>17272630
It's possible the lump sum was the same, but more of the game's profits go to Alicesoft than usual, assuming the deal was different from usual. I'd imagine that the high sales number of Rance and Haruka would let MG make a deal that isn't overly disadvantageous to their side. Evenicle isn't MG's newest game either. Right now, that would be Maggot Baits.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:18:05 2017 No.17272687

>>17272625
I do admit that creepy to me is when the MC's goal is to actually abuse the child, or if it is just in general some random fat man.

Naivity is not creepy to me as it happens in normal eroge. And if it isn't creepy with 17 year olds who don't understand how sex works, then nothing naivity related is creepy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:22:36 2017 No.17272710 >>17272637 SK art, Moogy Approved, and most importantly, it's known as the Alicesoft game that restored the Japanese fanbase's faith in Alicesoft in general rather than just Rance games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:28:43 2017 No.17272739 >>17272674 >2030 lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:30:33 2017 No.17272745 >>17272674 It's not like they were shopping around. More like they were approached by jast/mangagamer/SP and jast was the only company willing to keep it up for four years.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:30:34 2017 No.17272746

>>17272660
>Anything cheap enough still sells 100k copies.

No it doesn't, The Humble Bundle aside most of Sekai's cheap titles released in the last year (and they released plenty of them) have sold less than 10k outside of the bundle. The only real exceptions have been Nekopara, KaraKara, and Nekonin, the latter two which have sold a bit above 10k on their own.

That said, it looks different if you look through Sekai's Steamspy sales now, but that is entirely because of the ridiculous sales of the humble bundle (which while impressive, was at a very heavy discount). KaraKara went from around 11k to up around 100k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:31:25 2017 No.17272748 >>17272674 If it took 4 years and no one else got it in that time then that should be enough to show they were still skeptical about looking to the west. Wonder what convinced them that JAST wouldn't do a bad localisation that "could hurt their brand"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:32:11 2017 No.17272751 >>17272746 The Humble Bundle was a great idea because it got a lot of people buying their cheap shit that would never ever have bought them in the first place. Free $500k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:43:14 2017 No.17272792 >>17272751 I wonder if the bundle had any noticeable effect on their lewd patch sales.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:45:03 2017 No.17272801

>>17272748
Mangagamer has all sorts of issues and didn't start shaping up tell a few years ago. jast's website and releases have all been solid. I really like Jast's website for affiliate marketing, really userfriendly. Mangagamer is more for the hardcore VN fans. Sekai is just a fucking mess, no company who cares about brand image would partner with them.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:45:45 2017 No.17272804

>>17272746
You somehow think 10 dollars is cheap, but it isn't. We are talking when people can get games for 3 dollars or so. That is when you see high numbers.

Nekopara 1 didn't reach 100k until after bundle and 66% sales. You have to remember that and not think they actually did it at 10 dollars.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:48:04 2017 No.17272816 >>17272801 JAST is solid, like a glacier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:49:32 2017 No.17272822 >>17272801 Yeah, after all of this time, MG's main website is still shit. I don't care at all, but partnering with JAST over that seems reasonable enough. Maybe MG's website will be renovated at the 15th anniversery.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:51:30 2017 No.17272838

>>17272801
>no company who cares about brand image would partner with them

It may took them 4 years, but at least, minatosoft is serious about choosing who to partner with. I think other company should take note who to partner with, except for the 4 years part.

Hopefully, some kind of a miracle will happen to Jast and they can release things faster.

On a different thing, will we reach 1000 post?

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:52:42 2017 No.17272843

>>17272792
Their Nekopara Volume 1 patch has been selling steadily, they released it only a couple months ago (as there was no official patch back when it was released) and is now 5th in their store on the long term sales sort, only behind the other Nekopara patches and the Grisaia titles. The KaraKara patch is in 7th, it is ahead of where it was before the bundle but not by a ton.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:59:31 2017 No.17272885 >>17272838 >On a different thing, will we reach 1000 post? Most con announcement threads usually do, since /jp/ is a slow board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 18:59:48 2017 No.17272887 >>17272838 /jp/ is slow so definitely. We'll be alive for Frontwing's announcements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:07:41 2017 No.17272920 >>17272887 >Frontwing's announcements. Oh, I forgot about them. I already personally thinking that MG won the AX, theres also Frontwing and their announcements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:23:27 2017 No.17272988 >>17272920 If I did my math right their panel is just over 4 and a half hours away.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:24:01 2017 No.17272990 Whose panels are next, and when? Frontwing and Fakku?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:33:14 2017 No.17273034 >>17272990 Frontwing is from 9-10, Fakku is from 10-11. https://www.fakku.net/fakku-anime-expo-2017 Fakku seems to be hyping up their industry panel, so the leak from >>17236039 seems accurate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:45:48 2017 No.17273086 http://store.steampowered.com/app/560000/Ladykiller_in_a_Bind/ this has nudity and everything almost. What the hell? lol so does this mean Steam does not care anymore?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:47:39 2017 No.17273097 >>17273034 If Fakku gets Teaching Feeling does this mean i can digitally purchase it or does this have a thing where its going to be DRM everything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:48:33 2017 No.17273099 >>17273086 It's by Christine Love, so they have to do whatever she says.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:50:13 2017 No.17273106 >>17273086 There's a limit to what can be shown. Gahkthun and Kindred Spirits were allowed too because they aren't that graphic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:52:38 2017 No.17273117 >>17273086 Seems like they're less strict on censorship now. The Steam release of Material Girl has all the sex scenes, they just put white clouds over the genitals http://store.steampowered.com/app/644570/Material_Girl/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:55:28 2017 No.17273135 >>17273099 I found it hilarious when SJW's forced Love to self-censor her own game. Gotta appeal to your audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 19:59:10 2017 No.17273146 >>17273086 there is literally a kotaku article praising Valve for allowing The Right Nudity for The Right Reason once some insider gave him the info on some SJW at Valve to contact

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:01:32 2017 No.17273151 >>17273146 Wasn't Love the "girlfriend" of the article writer, or was that a different article?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:14:42 2017 No.17273208 >>17273099 >It's by Christine Love, so they have to do whatever she says. HuniePop has the same level of nudity. The bra comes off during the bedroom puzzles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:21:03 2017 No.17273232 >>17273208 Nah, Ladykiller in a Bind had dick sucking without needing an H-patch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:22:01 2017 No.17273236 >>17273208 Well, before Love censored her game to appease her fans, it has a lesbian learning to love dick. That's much lewder than Huniepop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:25:53 2017 No.17273257 >>17273117 So basically it means Valve is slowly allowing more lewd games now. This is a good thing, at least we are slowly getting to the point where Japanese artists do not need to worry much about what is and what is not allowed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:27:04 2017 No.17273259 >>17273257 If Material Girl is any indication, it's only slightly stricter than current Japanese laws anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:32:40 2017 No.17273275 >>17273259 Exactly which makes sense. I mean its starting to become more reasonable anyways. Maybe the Japanese devs told them about how the laws work in Japan and that they could try that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:38:51 2017 No.17273288 >>17273236 >Well, before Love censored her game to appease her fans, it has a lesbian learning to love dick. Wait what? She should have kept that. I like Love but I wasn't in a rush to buy LadyKiller. That would have made me give her money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:41:26 2017 No.17273303 You faggots want a dumb leak for the frontwing panel?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:43:04 2017 No.17273305 >>17273303 I want you to leak in your dads ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:44:07 2017 No.17273311 File: 113 KB, 610x198, Subahibienglogo1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17273305 Well okay, I won't then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:44:39 2017 No.17273313 >>17273303 Don't make Ian sad!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:44:54 2017 No.17273315 >>17273311 >selling it by episodes oh god no why

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:45:34 2017 No.17273320 Come to think of it, I don't think any of the Denpasoft announcements last year were released yet. >>17273303 Sure why not?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:48:58 2017 No.17273333 >>17273311 I blame Moogy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 20:49:14 2017 No.17273334 >>17273311 >>17273315 Perfect. I only wanted to read the yuri first chapter. The rest of the story is too bizarre for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:04:08 2017 No.17273390 >>17273311 >>17273315 I wonder how they'll price each chapter considering how much they vary in length. It's My Own Invention is like 1/3 of the whole game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:07:59 2017 No.17273404 >>17273315 it's actually even sillier

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:13:11 2017 No.17273426 >>17273390 It's My Own Invention part 3 of 6.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:13:57 2017 No.17273432 >>17273404 You're scaring me, anon. What could they do that's worse than splitting it up into episodes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:14:16 2017 No.17273436 >>17273432 I didn't say worse I said sillier

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:15:59 2017 No.17273442 >>17273436 Are all the chapters going to be DLC?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:16:06 2017 No.17273445 >>17273404 Let's see >all ages only Or >Supipara style crowdfunding

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:16:34 2017 No.17273447 >>17273442 This is my guess. Maybe trying to copy DI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:22:12 2017 No.17273463 >>17273404 Those bastards got it uncensored (with mosaic) for Steam, didn't they?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:24:54 2017 No.17273473 File: 108 KB, 610x198, Subahibienglogo2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] man I get why haro likes to give out hints Fuck actually leaking shit, this rampant speculation is way better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:25:11 2017 No.17273475 >Sekai ends up being the best company after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:27:34 2017 No.17273486 >>17273475 I knew we could count on our guys.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:32:25 2017 No.17273505

>>17273447
I'm not sure if Dies Irae is actually doing great with their strategy thus far. Of the 151 reviews on Steam thus far, just 11 of those were by people who paid for the DLC chapters on Steam (the rest were either done by someone playing the common route patch or Kickstarter backers). Getting a ton of people to download your product is great, but the biggest pitfall on Steam is relatively few people actually invest much time into longer VNs even if they buy them so a long free common route may work against you. For example, looking at the achievements of Clannad, 76.3% of people got the achievement for finishing the prologue, while just 18.8% of people got the first light orb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:51:30 2017 No.17273551 File: 258 KB, 700x803, 1472607533300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17273475 Go to bed Dobacco

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:53:39 2017 No.17273557 If SubaHibi is sold in multiple parts I guess it really will be a Discontinuous Existence

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:58:29 2017 No.17273583 >>17273557 heh

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 21:58:52 2017 No.17273585

One thing that did surprise me was there was nothing for Maiden Voyage from Sekai at AX, despite making a big show of opening the brand back at ACEN. Considering the success with that market MG and others have had, I'm surprised they didn't manage to get anything to try and make a splash, and with AX gone that one doujin title which already had a failed Indiegogo project looks to be the only title they'll have for the foreseeable future under their new brand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 22:00:36 2017 No.17273591 >>17273585 Wasn't that person who was relocated and then fired the person who was going to handle Maiden Voyage?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 22:07:08 2017 No.17273608 >>17273585 >>17273591 Yes, the woman they laid off was supposed to run the Maiden Voyage brand. It's safe to assume the branch is dead even if Sekai churn out the occasional BL or otome title.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 22:07:18 2017 No.17273609 >>17273591 All we know is that she was a fujo. I doubt she was ever going to be the head since Sekai admitted that they never needed her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 22:27:05 2017 No.17273657 >>17273609 She was hired to do something for the BL/otome branch, which just shows it was never going to be a dedicated thing if they didn't really need someone for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 22:41:56 2017 No.17273704 >>17272710 Moogy approval is a detriment, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 22:48:19 2017 No.17273732 lmao calm the hell down y'all -ian

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:12:39 2017 No.17273785 I'm seeing a free first episode, pay for the rest style demo release for Subahibi, desu It'd explain why there's only a Rabbit Hole logo instead of one for each episode

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:14:08 2017 No.17273791 I can't wait for the Steam reviews of Subahibi. They're going to be gold.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:15:41 2017 No.17273794 >>17273785 Oh man I just want Subahibi to make a great profit, hope they don't fuck up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:16:18 2017 No.17273797 >>17273791 >Subahibi >Steam if they do that i hope they pull a material girl. that'd be hilarious

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:16:48 2017 No.17273799

>>17273785
The first chapter is kind of meh though, not exactly the best demo material.
But still it's better than only a full release.

>>17273791
Dies irae is surprisingly quiet for a free game on Steam. There's not even any shitposting on the forums when a lot other weeb games get invaded by people whining about shit.
Sure, there's a few stupid reviews but it's like that for every game. There's surprisingly little

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:17:39 2017 No.17273800 >>17273794 unless they pack the whole game like dies irae it should be fine

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:19:14 2017 No.17273805 >>17273799 could be down the rabbit hole 1 and 2 the logo doesn't say 1

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:21:13 2017 No.17273813

>>17273473

Okay it was fun to watch you guys jump to conclusions but if you were paying attention I said this was a stupid silly leak(IE: nothing to get your panties in a wad over)

So since shit's only an hour away and it doesn't really matter at this point I'll give you one more blatantly obvious hint

rhymes with Dream Persian

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:21:37 2017 No.17273814 >>17273799 >>17273805 But it starts out like a yuri story, so it's bound to throw people off if they don't really know anything about its story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:22:44 2017 No.17273820 >Subahibi >on steam Oh boy I can't wait to see how butchered it is. I'm sure they'll have a patch for all the stuff they cut but I bet reading it in its butchered form would be quite funny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:23:52 2017 No.17273824 >>17273505 To be fair, though, Clannad is a mess of a game if you aren't using a walkthrough. Also not getting a light orb doesn't mean you didn't complete a route, as several don't give you one (Nagisa, Fuko, Ryou, Baseball).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:24:28 2017 No.17273827 >>17273813 We already knew about a Steam version. Where have you been? Frontwing already confirmed as much a while back when that fake listed went up on Greenlight. They said the official version would be announced on their official channel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:25:15 2017 No.17273829 >>17273820 I think they can just lightbeam censor the CG and keep the text all the same and it'd pass. That's pretty much what Material Girl did and that game has like 100k copies already

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:29:01 2017 No.17273838 >>17273814 Even then Rabbit Hole 2 is the main start of the plot, isn't it? So if it includes both of them it'll probably do fine plus what's not to love about yuri

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:33:34 2017 No.17273854 >>17273732 unprivate your twitter so I can troll it for useless information and be disappointed 99% of the time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:33:35 2017 No.17273855 >>17273824 Also Misae's route doesn't give you a light orb. Forgot about that one. So you can clear the game five ways without getting a single light orb.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:34:05 2017 No.17273858
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>>17273820
I really think these publishers are shooting them in the foot with these steam releases. Really cuts into the profitability of affiliate marketers, who are in many cases the cheapest cost of acquisition. Especially for industries in the growth phase. Sometimes the steam version even costs less than the website version which is really REALLY stupid.

No marketer worth their salt is going to bother when they give that little of a fuck about you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:34:21 2017 No.17273859 >>17273838 yuri is unclean and gross futa loli butt sex is the only pure form of love

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:35:10 2017 No.17273861 >>17273858 wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:36:12 2017 No.17273864 >>17273858 we speak english here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:38:10 2017 No.17273871 File: 81 KB, 356x500, 51nuWOdlMPL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17273859 >futa get on my level skip the futa give me the dudes

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:38:18 2017 No.17273872

>>17273858
Who the fuck still does affiliate marketing? It's not like streamers are a big source of marketing for visual novels.
Putting it on Steam is a way bigger marketing tool than having ads on some websites that no one really visits like Lewdgamer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:39:12 2017 No.17273875 >>17273872 do what JList used to do and put adds on the new nyaa

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:39:18 2017 No.17273876 >>17273871 but anonymous that's gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:40:14 2017 No.17273878 >>17273876 even better

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:44:49 2017 No.17273896
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>>17273861
>>17273864
Sorry a little stimmed out so I typed like a sperg let me slow down.

Affiliate marketers basically sell things for companies and get a cut. They can be good, bad, or awful. Nutaku is sort of an example, but there are many other ways to affiliate market that do not require a website like Nutaku.

Affiliate marketers do not get a cut if people buy it on steam. Steam does. And if steam is cheaper than the VNs in Frontwing's store, you can really ruin the relationship of that affiliate marketer (more likely it will never begin) since people are very price conscious and will obviously go to steam. If that affiliate marketer put money and time converting those people they will get a lower ROI (return on investment) and will move onto other endeavors. Even if I could make 200% of my money on VN advertising, that's pretty shit when I can sell diet meds (example only) for 500% and lifetime commission
>>17273872
You are only scratching the surface of affiliate marketers. There are networks that have thousands of very diverse businesses and products from companies large and small. Many other methods to generate sales than shitty wordpress websites with hamfisted SEO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:49:32 2017 No.17273915 >>17273824 Clannad is hardly alone there. 87% of people who paid for Steins;Gate on Steam started the game, 53.8% finished the prologue, 17.3% got 25% of CGs.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:49:35 2017 No.17273916

>>17273858
Affiliate marketing doesn't make a significant impact on sales. Not to mention that MG has shown that without Steam releases with regional pricing, those people just stop buying anything from them. That's why they decided to offer free patches now. They lost sales once they could no longer offer Steam keys on their own site.

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:50:16 2017 No.17273919

>>17273896
I think the bigger problem is Steam kind of has a monopoly on digital distribution so really the only way to get people to buy through affiliate marketers is to not put the game on Steam at all and then that's a ton of possible revenue straight down the drain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:51:41 2017 No.17273920 >>17273896 Social media has made affiliate marketers unnecessary. You can get people to boost awareness for free.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:52:46 2017 No.17273923 >>17273920 And Kickstarters which is a shitload of free marketing and a hype machine

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:53:55 2017 No.17273925 >>17273858 What a joke. Steam releases have made VN companies more profitable than ever. That's why everyone's trying to jump into the Steam market.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:55:05 2017 No.17273927 >>17273925 The guy obviously is biased towards affiliate marketing because he wants to make money being the middleman instead of letting Steam do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:57:19 2017 No.17273932 https://twitter.com/FrontwingInt/status/882085638043914240

Anonymous Mon Jul 3 23:59:37 2017 No.17273936

>>17273927
His job is being phased out. Social media, news outlets, and bloggers who do it as a hobby are making him unnecessary in this field.

Why'd he even pick VNs? Less competition I'm guessing. But affiliate marketing has never really been a big thing in the industry.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:08:15 2017 No.17273964

>>17273916
I agree, that's why I'm saying they should be providing more incentives to affiliates, or at least not spit in the face of them by offering lower prices on steam. Though it seems I have missed some of the problems of the industry, namely the MG key fiasco, never heard of that or I forgot about it.
>>17273925
>>17273919
Steam is extremely powerful, but if they're willing to give a 30% cut to steam with lower prices, why would they not offer something comparable to affiliates? I believe affiliate rates for MG or Jast are something like 5% last time I checked a few years ago. Even as a trial run they should be experimenting with a network with higher rates if they have the time. The distribution and download thing is definitely a problem for them to fix though. As a buy-fag I do hate mangagamer's download system + drm (moving to hard drive fucks VNs up) and end up just torrenting after a purchase since it's easier.
>>17273927
>>17273936
I wouldn't know where to begin with this industry, I would probably have to get access to analytics or something to figure out who actually buys visual novels. Not interested really, VNs are a hobby and I don't want to ruin that.

Affiliate marketing won't be completely phased out any time soon, but I bet you'll see it become more of an agency/team instead of a solo career since there is so much in digital marketing that keeps evolving it's hard for one person to do it all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:09:28 2017 No.17273971 >>17273964 MG has gotten rid of nearly all their DRM, I think the Minori titles are the only exception?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:09:40 2017 No.17273972 >>17273964 Steam mandates a 30% cut and is the most widely used digital distribution platform. They're kind of required to do that.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:13:29 2017 No.17273980

>>17273971
I had to re-crack KnS 2 which was only a couple of years ago.
>>17273972
Yeah and steam gets the cut EVERY time they buy a mangagamer VN. If I direct someone to mangagamer.com and they buy KnS 2 I receive 5%. If they go on later to buy semen sluts 5 I get 0%. You see the problem right? Why is the compensation so low if there isn't even a life-time customer commission?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:15:21 2017 No.17273983 >>17273980 You advertise KnS2, you get a cut of that sale. They buy something else, you don't get a cut of that sale because you didn't link them to that. Steam gets a 30% cut because the games are hosted on their service.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:15:24 2017 No.17273985 Island to launch with the anime

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:20:00 2017 No.17273993

>>17273983
Other industries do that but yeah I think I understand now, just clicked that the rates are so low because streamers or whatever are content with being fleeced on rates since they're dumb kids that don't know any better. You'd have to be a power seller and negotiate upward.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:20:31 2017 No.17273996 Frontwing just won

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:23:04 2017 No.17274001 Joined late, are they censoring shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:23:55 2017 No.17274004 >literally just a date for subahibi and some drawings for their new title that was some weak ass shit, I'm ending it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:24:02 2017 No.17274005 >>17274001 Only the doggo scene

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:24:08 2017 No.17274006 >>17274001 18+ patch and no mosaics but the dog scene is cut

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:24:20 2017 No.17274007 >>17274001 They cut the scene where one of the side characters gets raped by a dog.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:25:42 2017 No.17274013 >>17273980 MG has only gotten rid of their DRM in the last 1-2 years. Honestly, your knowledge of the industry is both lacking and seriously out of date.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:26:23 2017 No.17274016 >>17274005 >>17274006 >>17274007 the jews did this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:26:49 2017 No.17274018 Wait, did he say August 2017? As in next month? That's much earlier than I expected

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:28:12 2017 No.17274020 >>17274019 >herkz didn't get to fuck it up completely based

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:29:14 2017 No.17274022 >>17274019 make a patch for the patch?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:29:25 2017 No.17274023 >>17274019 literally all that says is herkz doesnt know what FW did with the TL after herkz and them sold out lmao if they weren't touching it up it could have been released more months ago, so why would it just not be touched up at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:29:36 2017 No.17274024 >>17273964 >Not interested really, VNs are a hobby and I don't want to ruin that. Then I don't see why the focus on affiliate marketing so much. They aren't just going to offer an amateur a really high rate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:33:44 2017 No.17274037 >>17274018 August has Little Busters and Subahibi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:33:44 2017 No.17274038 So frontwing has a title "similar to something someone announced last year at AX" What is it /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:34:21 2017 No.17274041 Could they do an "unofficial patch" for it, like how starless did, although I don't exactly remember if its starless or shiny days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:34:30 2017 No.17274043 >>17274037 You mean Fruitbat Factory's butchering of Little Busters lol I've seen the translation and it's shit. Worse than F/SN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:35:51 2017 No.17274049 >>17273964 You got a website or anything where you post? I'd love to hear more

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:36:04 2017 No.17274050 >>17274038 Ikusa Megami

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:36:33 2017 No.17274052 >>17274038 Monobeno

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:36:38 2017 No.17274053 >>17274043 Wasn't the original LB translation by fruitbat factory too?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:37:20 2017 No.17274056 >>17274050 tsui no sora

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:38:26 2017 No.17274058 https://twitter.com/FrontwingInt/status/882091668987551744 Ahahahahahahahahaha, they actually did it, they split game into pieces, selling only first (very damn confusing) chapter separately. This will be biggest fuckup of VN industry ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:38:29 2017 No.17274060 >>17274053 yes it is. It's shit. They barely changed anything between the fan patch and the Steam release. Plus FB's translations were all just as terrible until Conj joined.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:38:34 2017 No.17274061 >>17274052 If they don't have the balls for some dog-fuckin, why would they have the balls for blatant loli? Also that wasn't announced at AX

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:39:31 2017 No.17274067 >>17274058 Selling chapter 1 with a free patch for the entirety of the game doesn't sound all that bad >>17274061 They had the balls for dog fucking, their lawyers told them not to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:41:20 2017 No.17274077 This is a really strange way of releasing it. It basically means that if someone buys it without knowing about the patch they pay full price for less than 10% of the game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:42:21 2017 No.17274082 >>17274077 The patch will obviously be advertised on the Steam page.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:42:44 2017 No.17274084 >>17274067 $29.99 Which I think is pretty good considering Subahibi's length. But I can see this release method receiving alot of negative criticism. Because without the patch there's almost nothing to the VN.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:43:04 2017 No.17274087

>>17270754
https://kazamatsuri.org/exclusive-interview-visualarts-prototype-and-fruitbat-factory-about-little-busters-english-edition/
>To VA: What are your thoughts on Little Busters Ecstasy’s inclusion of H-scenes?
>Baba: Adult love should take things further, wouldn’t you think? (laughs) Due to fan feedback, we made a story for all age groups and later added H-scenes. From a business standpoint, the results from doing so were very good, but we will probably not do it again. It was surprisingly difficult to make a story like that.

It's supposed to be an all ages story and the porn was only added in because fans wanted it. I wouldn't worry about it not being there.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:43:39 2017 No.17274093

>>17274067
Problem is, game has very peculiar structure. When you play it for first time, it looks like it was entire game, it just ends there, you get credit rolls and go to main menu.
When you bought 1 chapter only, you will get impression that that's all what is there, stop and go write review about generic yurishit w/out any of that ~deep~ and bizzare stuff everyone was hyping.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:44:00 2017 No.17274097 >>17274077 But now you're thinking that the Steam audience doesn't know about patch. Watch every single VN release (japanese or EOLVN) and the first thing you will find is the "+18 parch?" thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:44:39 2017 No.17274100 >>17274077 Mangagamer just announced Euphoria on Steam First 10 minutes for $30, rest of the game available via free patch

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:44:53 2017 No.17274102 >>17274082 I wonder how much they can do in that regards, MG seemed to suggest the bigger issue Steam had with advertising paid patches since they are a competitor rather than the patch. This is a free patch though so that side of it is not an issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:45:38 2017 No.17274104 Subahibi kickstarter too lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:45:39 2017 No.17274105 >>17274093 I'm 99% sure there'll be an end-of-chapter advertisement for the full patch >>17274102 Steam is fine with free patches being advertised but anything paid will be blocked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:47:07 2017 No.17274109 >>17274104 Kickstarter for physical copies and physical goods and the game is coming out in august regardless

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:47:33 2017 No.17274110 >>17274100 Maggot Baits Steam would be better. You get main menu and then message that in order to start the game, you must install patch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:47:43 2017 No.17274111 >>17274082 18+ patches can't be advertised on Steam pages.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:48:09 2017 No.17274113 File: 59 KB, 1006x827, ss+(2017-07-04+at+06.46.53).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17273872 >No one really visits

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:49:09 2017 No.17274114 >>17274111 Paid 18+ patches can't. External patches still can be advertised if they're free. I'm talking from actual experience talking with Steam peeps

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:50:10 2017 No.17274118

I seriously considering to buy Subahibi but this >>17274019 is kinda scares me
Should I buy it, or just straightly pirate it? I don't really mind the doggie scene being deleted and some people probably gonna make an unofficial patch for that scene alone anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:51:07 2017 No.17274122 >>17274038 hey guys, you know what was announced last year? Baldr Sky

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:52:03 2017 No.17274124 >>17274118 Herkz's work is garbage. He's just salty he can't add more memes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:52:21 2017 No.17274126 >>17274118 The TL was worked on after it was sold. The original TL team didn't work on it but (leaks) I can guarantee someone did >>17274122 Baldr Heart confirmed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:52:52 2017 No.17274129 >>17274118 Pirate it and if you enjoy it buy it afterward

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:52:55 2017 No.17274130

>>17274118
herkz shitting on frontwing releases (that he was paid to work on) is almost a tradition at this point, I'm pretty sure he's told people not to buy each release of grisaia too when they came out too. How they keep somehow getting put into positions that they need to work with him is kind of amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:53:31 2017 No.17274132 >>17274129 >implying people actually buy VNs after pirating them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:53:56 2017 No.17274133 >>17274019 Now I have a reason to buy this VN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:55:03 2017 No.17274136 >>17274041 Both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:57:58 2017 No.17274141 File: 331 KB, 1782x948, herkz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17274019 Here's the full thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:58:35 2017 No.17274142 >>17274129 >>17274129 Well, I already read RH1 and basically force skip the entire game so I mostly know what's coming Gonna buy it when it released I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 00:58:38 2017 No.17274143 >>17274019 What a fucking stupid cunt. I wouldn't hire her for anything if she was gonna talk this much shit about the product.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:00:12 2017 No.17274152 >>17274143 herkz is a dude i know anime icons can be deceiving but herkz is a dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:01:01 2017 No.17274156 File: 100 KB, 611x752, 1499144405.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17274141

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:01:48 2017 No.17274160 >>17274152 there are no men on the internet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:02:48 2017 No.17274162 >>17274160 really? tell that to me and all the dudes dicks i've sucked

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:03:05 2017 No.17274163 >>17274118 herkz is kind of a fag, I wouldn't put too much stock into his words. Does kirby still post on /vg/? I'd just ask him if so given it's his translation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:16:00 2017 No.17274182 >>17271316 You know now that I think of it, haro's pretty buddy-buddy with frontwing's PR bitch If it's not for MG, I wonder if frontwing is interested in the fujoshit market

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:16:20 2017 No.17274184

>>17274049
Several but if you are genuinely interested in asking questions about something you can email me. or I can point you to a site of your specific interest.
>>17274024
Someone scanning through thousands of products/companies isn't going to bother if the compensation is perceived as shit (if VN companies even are listed anywhere) though I agree with you.

Anyway I'm out, thanks for your guys' thoughts. We'll see what the future has in store for VNs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:18:39 2017 No.17274189 >>17274184 I was hoping for like a website or twitter or some kind of blog? Places where you post about topics like this because I'd like to see more of your opinions

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:18:47 2017 No.17274190 >>17274141 >new/rewritten content for the all ages version He clearly has no idea what he's talking about, since there won't be new content in the all ages version. In fact, it's patch it to 18+ or there is no VN.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:21:23 2017 No.17274197
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>>17274190
He meant that if the H-scenes were removed in the Steam version, then there would have to be slight rewrites to handle that.

But from what I remember of the talk, they said that the H-scenes are still fully in the Steam release but just covered up? I could be wrong though.

Also, this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:23:37 2017 No.17274201 >>17274141 >>17274156 Hahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good. Fuck herkz. Dude is a fucking idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:24:15 2017 No.17274203 >>17274197 >out of spite lmao herkz really thinks highly of himself if he thinks a company would flat out release a bad translation out of spite if the translation were shit they'd have thrown it out

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:26:25 2017 No.17274207

>>17274197
Is this guy retarded, or something? You don't go around saying a company is the sole issue for all your woes on a localisation project, then call them a bunch of dirty liars, and expect to still maintain a professional relationship with them.

I swear, these Twitter whores that blog away their lives have no sense of what to say and what not to say unless someone shoves an NDA down their throats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:27:13 2017 No.17274208 http://www.strawpoll.me/13351704 So, who won AX? http://www.strawpoll.me/13351707 And who lost AX?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:30:19 2017 No.17274214 MG needs to improve their patching instructions. Steam users can't seem to figure out how to apply the 18+ patch to Dal Segno.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:31:06 2017 No.17274215 >>17274208 As with every time Sekai announces anything, we all lost.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:31:39 2017 No.17274216 File: 145 KB, 500x500, 228.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17274197 Hahaha, holy shit. He's more full of himself than DarksydePhil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:35:56 2017 No.17274225 Paid 18+ patches dying is the best trend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:36:55 2017 No.17274227 >>17274126 >The original TL team didn't work on it but (leaks) I can guarantee someone did cafe why don't have you ask an ask.fm like all the cool kids so I can ask you inane shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:37:49 2017 No.17274229 >>17274216 >Wooooooow, how was I supposed to know antagonizing a company gets you into a bad relationship with them? He is basically the DSP of editors desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:38:04 2017 No.17274230 >>17274227 or shit, I guess it's a curiouscat now I'm especially curious on your opinion of the dogfucking getting cut since you're a furfag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:39:52 2017 No.17274234 >>17274230 dogfucking is illegal. don't try this at home, kids.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:44:16 2017 No.17274242

I have to wonder if the planned Frontwing storefront is still happening with this solution for Subahibi, as if they are distributing the game through Steam and a patch and doing goods through Kickstarter, it kind of negates any need for an R18 storefront in the short term.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:45:08 2017 No.17274243 >>17274242 Wasn't mangagamer supposed to carry it too? I seem to remember something like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:48:33 2017 No.17274248 >>17274243 Never heard anything about that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:52:39 2017 No.17274253

>>17274243
They'll be carrying Dies Irae, they never said anything about Subahibi. Frontwing does have the Corona Blossom patches up on J-List and were with J-List at AX this year, so if they were to work with a third party storefront on future titles I imagine it will continue to be J-List. .

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:54:46 2017 No.17274258 >>17274087 Not worry about it except that the sales will be back to worse selling than with it. But some companies seem to not focus on profits but only on preaching.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:57:48 2017 No.17274265 >>17274258 If there's an 18+ version, Fruitbat will work with frontwing again. not that fruitbat's translations are any good pre-conjueror so it'll still be shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 01:58:50 2017 No.17274270 >>17274265 I meant JAST not Frontwing

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:01:44 2017 No.17274280

>>17274243
That was Dies Irae.

>>17274242
I doubt it. Otherwise, their absurd plan of locking away most the game behind an 18+ patch wouldn't have been done.

I personally am a bit annoyed that the dog scenes have to be censored (either Steam said nope or perhaps they thought it might cause issues in some US states with the physicals like with JAST and Starless), but I understand. It's a legal issue, not a pandering to people outside of your fanbase issue. I hope they do an unofficial patch to put in back the scenes or make it so putting the scenes back in is easy and painless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:03:59 2017 No.17274287 >>17274280 It wasn't Steam, it's because bestiality is illegal in most states and FW's lawyers said no. Ian said it during the livestream

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:04:34 2017 No.17274288 >>17274280 You know JAST is pretty paranoid about bestiality too. I wonder if frontwing and them might be more connected than they let on

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:04:36 2017 No.17274289 >>17274280 The dog scene is more illegal than loli in most countries, as funny as it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:05:09 2017 No.17274291 From the Fakku Q&A, they said they weren't doing VNs at this time. Their big announcement was instead anime related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:07:08 2017 No.17274297 >>17274289 cuz loli has plausible deniability when you slap a "this character is 18" label on them but bestiality doesnt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:07:17 2017 No.17274299 >>17274291 Well shit, that's a wrap for this AX then. Started out strong but ended pretty weak 8/10

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:08:06 2017 No.17274301 >>17274289 But furry is legal?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:08:07 2017 No.17274302 >>17274297 what if it's an 18rtf loli in a dog suit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:09:38 2017 No.17274304 >>17274302 then it makes you a furry >>17274301 furry yes, feral no

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:11:56 2017 No.17274310 >>17274280 >>17274289 Didn't Haruka have bestiality? Or was it near bestiality? I remember a dog was involved at the very least.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:13:50 2017 No.17274316 >>17274310 Mangagamer did BBH, not JAST. Mangagamer can get away with it because their main branch is in Japan, unlike JAST which is in the USA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:13:54 2017 No.17274317 >>17274280 >>17274289 >>17274310 Heck, maggot baits is going to have fucking pigs. So what is the problem with dogs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:14:07 2017 No.17274318 >>17274310 Mangagamer isn't paranoid about beastiality

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:14:55 2017 No.17274320 >>17274317 Like >>17274316 says it's a matter of their location.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:16:25 2017 No.17274323 >>17274318 See >>>17274316 (You) . It's a matter of location.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:18:03 2017 No.17274326 >>17274323 Beastiality is legal in like 1/5th of the US, so I think it's more a matter that JAST is influencing frontwing in some way

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:18:33 2017 No.17274330 >>17274316 >>17274320 So because JAST can't carry a patch that has dog fucking inside it, they have to cut it out? Because if it's location, couldn't Frontwing just use the same excuse that MG is using?

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:20:28 2017 No.17274338

Man that herkz drama is traveling across the internet pretty quickly. Frontwing's PR guy might wanna try and solve that somehow. Sure 4chan hates the guy but the fuwanovels and reddits of the world will take him at face value.

Not that I can think of a good way to, but then again I don't get paid for PR so

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:20:36 2017 No.17274339

>>17274326
Bestiality is illegal in 4/5s of the US including the California, where JAST operates

>>17274330
Frontwing isn't distributing it through a Japanese hosted web store unlike MangaGamer. When Frontwing makes their own store, maybe, but not until then.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:23:40 2017 No.17274346

>>17274339
>Bestiality is illegal in 4/5s of the US including the California, where JAST operates

yes, that is what I was implying.

Specifically I bet JAST's distributing company(the printing/wholesale one) that I can't remember the name of is going to be doing the hardcopies for the kickstarter and that's why.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:25:01 2017 No.17274349 >>17274346 They're also most likely distributing the 18+ patch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:26:12 2017 No.17274352 >>17274338 Probably just what this thread did, point out his previous attacks on frontwing and point out that when you sell a fan translation you shouldn't expect to control the end product.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:26:25 2017 No.17274353 >>17274349 It's a free patch so I don't see why FW couldn't do it themselves

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:26:30 2017 No.17274354 >>17274346 I was implying that legal issues in the US are also a concern, not just JAST doing work for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:27:31 2017 No.17274357 >>17274353 Requires a storefront that FW doesn't have, and FW most likely would establish one in the US once they do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:28:33 2017 No.17274360 >>17274357 I don't see why you'd need a storefront for a free patch

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:30:02 2017 No.17274365

>>17274310
Obscenity law is generally vague, and Jast/Frontwing are playing it a bit more safe. In theory for drawn content, something in the US has full protection of the first amendment and thus shouldn't have issues with other laws restricting content unless it fails the Miller test. The test has three points, the first is a community standards test (which is the most vague, and is decided by a jury), the second is if a judge determines the content to be "patently offensive" which is generally defined by local laws in that jurisdiction, and the third is if the work, when taken as a whole, has "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." Obviously something like the scene in question could run into problems with both of the first two, but it would be hard to argue that a title like Subahibi (or most VNs for that matter, but especially Subahibi) lacks serious literary value.

In practice though, there is good reason to avoid content that is potentially problematic locally to avoid a potential mess, and Frontwing for Subahibi will likely be working with someone to distribute the content who understandably would not want to take their chances either for a "10-15 line scene involving a dog".

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:32:30 2017 No.17274375

>>17274360
Because you can't just throw the patch out there and expect people to find it.
You'd need a hosting service, a website pointing to the patch, and the most important part would be longevity, meaning it would make more sense to make a storefront for distribution than make a single site for the subahibi distribution

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:38:15 2017 No.17274397 >>17274375 Anonymous they already have a site. I don't see why you're so stuck on this "storefront" shit when it's pretty obviously the kickstarter phys version that's the cause.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:42:36 2017 No.17274406 >>17274397 Their site isnt built for distribution

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:44:06 2017 No.17274407 >>17274207 After Persona fiasco they tried to pull. They really do not deserve anymore money or attention.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:46:13 2017 No.17274414 >>17274208 I can sense Frontwing lost they did not have much anouncements. But they are starting out. I voted for JAST because we all know those games will release in another 49 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:48:02 2017 No.17274421 >>17274414 At the very least, Frontwing teased they have two more upcoming announcements, while Jast looks like they'll end up with just those two titles until next year's AX.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:48:57 2017 No.17274422 >>17274406 It's on the same server where all of their trials and patches are stored so obviously it can handle some, and even then it's not like it's hard to just use amazon or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:53:32 2017 No.17274433 >>17274422 Amazon? Really? that's the dumbest idea I've heard all day

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:55:16 2017 No.17274435 >>17274433 I dunno, the idea that a storefront is required to distribute a free patch seems pretty dumb to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:56:49 2017 No.17274441 >>17274435 A storefront for distribution is a logical idea to implement if you're going to host 18+ patches. You'll be able to advertise your other games and set up a distribution platform for your own releases.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 02:59:53 2017 No.17274451 The worst of AX has to go to the casuals that liked Fata Morgana. Most of the Q&A was bad on that. Like the visual novel but their fans are bad. Even one question was a huge spoiler.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:01:45 2017 No.17274454 >>17274451 >casuals >anime convention pretty sure the issue is that anime otaku are idiots, not casuals

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:01:56 2017 No.17274456 >>17274441 None of that explains why a storefront is >required You might as well just fess up and admit that you weren't paying attention that it was gonna be a free patch

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:02:07 2017 No.17274457 >>17274113 This is very surprising. Weird that they have numbers like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:03:28 2017 No.17274460 >>17274456 I knew it was going to be free the entire time. I was looking to them selling their own games, including 18+ editions, not solely the patch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:05:33 2017 No.17274465 >>17274460 I don't think frontwing is going to be selling their own 18+ stuff anytime soon. I'm pretty sure they'll just settle into patches for steam releases.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:06:15 2017 No.17274468

>>17274460
They opted to use Kickstarter (and later Backerkit) to sell physical goods. The big necessity for their own storefront was when they were intending to sell the game off of Steam, but their Steam workaround means they no longer have any pressing need to do so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:06:44 2017 No.17274471 File: 215 KB, 675x948, opc9mmjndS1wo1irpo1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17274451 Yeah, they basically just asked lame questions, much of which had already been answered on their ask.fm

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:07:33 2017 No.17274473 >>17274468 30% steam cut seems like a good enough reason to in the first place

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:26:15 2017 No.17274511 >>17274457 There's supposedly an actual media company behind them with investors, so they'd have to be getting traffic to be making money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 03:43:23 2017 No.17274541 So who else thinks Eternal is gonna be crap? lol The official description reads like a bad fan translation except it's an OELVN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 04:47:08 2017 No.17274636 >>17274203 Just like when they threw out the awful translation of Chiruchiru Michiru that was done by a fuwaretard, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 04:50:09 2017 No.17274639 The VNTL thread is up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 04:57:53 2017 No.17274653 >>17274407 What's the Persona fiasco?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 05:13:33 2017 No.17274682 >>17274005 >>17274006 >>17274007 Let's hope someone will make a little patch for the dog scene, Subahibi is a denpa VN i want to see every fucking disturbing scenes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 05:22:19 2017 No.17274697 >>17274208 God bless MG for Damekoi and Evenicle, fuck Frontwing for Subahibi steam meme episodic release and pushing back Island to 2018.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 05:27:09 2017 No.17274708 >>17274697 Subahibi on Steam in the first place and the Island delay sure, but the Subahibi release is hardly episodic when it is just a Steam release + patch.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 05:54:29 2017 No.17274772

>>17274511
That's inaccurate. LewdGamers is privately owned. The owner is now making his own games to
help support the site. Lasterk is the main artist behind the project.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/657580/What_My_Neighbors_Are_Demons/

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/criticalbliss/what-my-neighbors-are-demons-an-adult-visual-novel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 09:52:52 2017 No.17275475 >>17272801 JAST new website is ass. Always having to click more since they're focusing on phone users.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 13:21:55 2017 No.17276120 >>17274317 I'm only saying it is easier to sell loli than beastiality. That MG focus on beastiality over loli is just poor choice of carefulness.

Anonymous Tue Jul 4 13:28:05 2017 No.17276147

>>17274456
They need a store front if they do mosaic free patches because they could be considered as breaking the law if they did it through a store they themselves owned and that let Japanese people visit it.

That said I'm sure Japanese people can manage to visit JAST and get uncensored porn if they want to. It is just the legal stuff they are doing it for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 4 14:09:34 2017 No.17276292 >>17274297 for bestiality you can just say its a magic dog

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