Touhou Gameplay Thread

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>>17254149
What are your favorite patterns to look at/dodge, /jp/?
My favorite to look at is Futo's Overdrive spellcard and my favorite to dodge is Kanako's final spellcard.

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>>17254269
Not sure if it's my favourite but I really like Water Sign "Kappa's Pororoca" by Nitori because the music gets upbeat so I usually begin humming while dodging that spellcard

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>>17254269
My favourite to look is Junko's Lilies of Murderous Intent and my favourite to dodge is Parsee's Jealous Sign "Green Eyed-Monster" and that Seiga's with the curvy lasers and balls.

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>>17254269
There's something fun about Hinas final spellcard to look at that I just cant put my finger on why.

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How to memorize card spells when you're a brainlet? I cannot into lunatic.

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Byakuren NMNB with MarisaB is pretty tiring.

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>>17254390
Practice moar

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Post your progress /jp/! I did a few more IN runs, feeling a bit burned out already, also been trying Sanae in TD, I'm going to give it a few more tries and then man up to get back to UFO.

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>>17254269
>What are your favorite patterns to look at/dodge, /jp/?
youkai blazing wheel

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>>17254390
Be born talented.

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watch the flower master of the four seasons not be in the game about flowers or the game about the four seasons

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Rank the windows games' difficulties at the LNB level for me.

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>Trying to beat TD's extra stage
>Practice forever, get my strategy for the stage down perfectly
>finally get in the zone(almost never happens to me), everything's lining up perfectly, Mamizou time
>play it out perfectly, die with no bombs
>maybe, maybe if I'd have more info, I could have saved 2-3 bombs
>only managed to get her down to her fourth to last spellcard

I hate moments like this, when my skill is the limit rather than practice or anything else. I was all excited because I though I might be able to actually do an extra stage for once, but even with such an easy game it's still too hard. Also I'm quoting myself because I'm a big dumb Normal player.

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>>17254269
Border of Wave and Particle is beautiful and is a fun spell to dodge if you didn't pussy out and went into the safespot.

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>>17256391
Sounds like you just have to repeat the "get strategy down perfectly" part for Mamizou herself. TD has spell practice. Aim to capture each of Mamizou's spells at least a single time so you have an idea of what you're meant to do even if you end up bombing most of them.

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>>17256426
I actually find it a bit too predictable in its pattern and can capture it more consistently underneath her than I can trying to put myself against Satori's skirt close enough to be safe from the bullets but far enough to not run into Satori herself.
I would say Kanako's opener is a more enjoyable pattern to capture, but definitely not as pretty to look at.

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>>17254390
Just keep practicing until every bullet pattern is engraved into you psyche. When you've practiced enough, you should start to see danmaku whenever you close your eyes

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>>17256389
They're all around the same difficulty if you use the best shot.

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Still struggling with PCB's Phantasm stage. How do you do "Boundary of Humans and Youkai"?

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I downloaded Embodiment of Scarlet Devil today. It's my first Touhou game. I've gotten to the fourth stage on Easy because I suck at these types of games, but I'm planning on changing that. I'm gonna git gud. I like playing as Marisa, but I prefer Reimu as a character...

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>>17256810
>Easy
Did s- oh forget it.
Good on you anon.

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>>17256825
Thanks. I know easy mode is shit, but this is my first Touhou and my first danmaku game in general. I can do New Vegas on the hardest difficulty and with Hardcore mode activated with ease, but that's because I started on Regular mode and at the easy difficulty and worked my way up. Hopefully I can play Lunatic one day.

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>>17256830
alright. Good luck anon.
>lunatic one day
How about tomorrow?
Ge a taste of the hell youll be seeing soon.
Also a good way to train sometimes.

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>>17256837
I up the difficulty every other run! It's the way to do it.

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>>17256849
Alrighty then! Make haste! There's not much time!

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I don't know how I did it, but I did.

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>>17256913
From Ran to Yukari, congrats!

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Fuck it, I can't get pass Utsuho's last spellcard as Cirno in Hisou.

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>>17256963
Thanks dude.

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>>17254269
Imperishable Shooting looks pretty.

[Gabe Tewland Katie Blair a No.]

I want Letty Whiterock to suck my Whitecock!

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>>17257267
Oh well, I finally got around to defeat Utsuho and defeated Alice rather easily despite my first time facing her. She's piss easily compared to Suwako.
This makes my first Hisou 1CC, and my first 1CC of the fighting series.

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>>17254595
Don't sweat it, both TD Sanae and UFO in general are bitches.
>>17256391
Do you realize that Mami is one of the hard Extra stages? It is not your fault if you are taking long.
>>17256426
The same can be said about Blazing Star "Ten Evil Stars", really.

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>>17257541
>The same can be said about Blazing Star "Ten Evil Stars", really.
Not really. With Ten Evil Stars you will end up in a "safe zone" completely naturally and doing anything but sitting in the middle is actively being stupid and risky for no reason. With BoWaP you make an active decision and go out of your way to get into a safespot, which itself has risk.

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>>17257572
The fact that the safe zone exists at all is the issue. If it didn't exist, then no, sitting in the middle is suicidal. Try the boss rush patch which has the safe zone removed (i.e., the stars overlap a little more) and you'll get a feel of how you're actually "meant" to capture the spell.
That said, I'm assuming you're playing on lunatic. The spiral bullets might not be dense enough to matter on lower difficulties.

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>>17257541
Is she really a bitch? I was getting frustrated because overall it felt like a normal character to play and couldn't tell why I can't get this done already.

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>>17256809
Dont let a bullet's hitbox touch your 2hu's hitbox.

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>>17256391
Who are you quoting?
Mamizou herself is definitely the actual hard part of TD's extra. I got the stage down perfect really quick but still haven't been able to beat her, even though I got to her last card once. I shelved my attempts to beat her for now—I will get back to it of course after I get some Hard 1ccs—but you should keep going. The only way to improve your skill is to test yourself with things that you can't currently do, and if you stay on Normal you'll never rise above Normal.

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>>17258501
Yes. Her wide spread is nice, but it's too weak and her focused shot is worthless. Her bomb barely does any damage, and her ability is to charge trance faster than other characters, yet given her poor focused shot, her trance is like the worst out of the 4 and you don't get much more of it, anyways. She is by far the worst shottype in TD and a very bad one overall.

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Alright.
Scarlet Meister, what the fuck.
I've been trying to no-bomb* Remilia in practice mode and even in runs where I get somewhat far Scarlet Meister always wipes me. The clusters of bullets are just so dense that I have no clue where to go. I haven't been able to find a replay on Hard that captures it (or better yet times it out) so I'm out of luck there. Any suggestions? So far that card, Sakuya's Killing Doll, and Remilia's final card are the only spell cards on Hard mode that I haven't captured at least once with Reimu B.

*when I say "no-bomb" I only mean the boss herself, I'm actually bombing in places I can easily clear in the stage portion for the sake of points so I can get the 20M life and an extra shot in the boss portion

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>>17259452
Addendum, I found exactly one NMNB replay with ReimuB on Hard that does Stage 6. It's kind of annoying that replays.gensokyo.org doesn't make people mark EoSD runs as only being certain stages via that practice patch, but on the bright side it did introduce me to the fact that said patch exists.

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Does anyone know what version of DX touhou 16 uses?

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>PoFV charge bug happens twice in one run

how do i kill myself

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>>17258164
>Try the boss rush patch which has the safe zone removed
I literally made the thing. Please try again.

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>>17258164
Not him and I've only played SA on Normal, but are you sure going between the suns and dodging the smaller bullets with only horizontal isn't the intended way to clear it? Has ZUN commented on this? I found it immediately on my own fighting the boss, it seems exactly what was intended. ZUN sometimes makes accidental safespots but I don't think he'd fail to notice this one.

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>>17260036
Should be 9, it's the same engine as his last few games and those used 9 too

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>>17260316
That is a baseless claim and even if it were true, it in no way refutes anything I've said. Thank you for your pointless post.

>>17260355
Your guess is as good as mine. I'm leaning towards him not having intentionally put in a safespot that completely trivializes a stage 6 spell card on all difficulties.

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>>17256391
Dont feel bad about it anon, even though TD is an overall "easy" game for Touhou standars, Mamizou is actually among the most difficult extra bosses.

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>>17256913
Amazing anon! I still can't 1cc PCB

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>>17260407
Several of Utsuho's nonspells are even more trivial than that, I think Utsuho is just supposed to be really powerful regarding raw output but kind of dumb.
Also practicing EoSD Stage 6 Hard is slowly driving me insane and I hate Eternal Meek so much for keeping me from practicing. I really wish EoSD had a Boss Rush patch like SA and UFO, I'm already not using bombs for these practices so it would just cut the fat.

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>>17256810
Congratulations Anon! Keep practicing and you will definitely be able to beat every 2hu game someday

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>>17259452
>>17259509
I've only captured that card a couple times on hard and once on lunatic. I never attempt to capture it in a real run. You have an extremely low chance of capturing it even if you know how to do it. It's not worth dying to. Just bomb it. Even with Reimu B's weak bomb you can clear it entirely if you time it correctly.

As for capturing it, you need to misdirect the starter aimed bursts to the sides and quickly move through the sea of bullets without hesitation to misdirect the next sequence. If you hesitate you will become trapped and die.

You should be able to get those extends without wasting bombs meaninglessly. Perhaps you should rethink your routing. If you have already got a hard 1CC could you share your replay? I can give you some tips.

Try these for strategy help (2nd one uses scoring tactics):
http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=31291
http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=37195

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>>17260478
>If you have already got a hard 1CC could you share your replay?
I don't have one, and the one replay I've saved has me dying immediately to Scarlet Meister as it was the first time I encountered the spell on Hard. I don't really need to capture every spell but I feel doing so will help increase my chances of pulling through since I can, if not capture them in the run that gets me that 1cc, hopefully last longer than otherwise and survive without using as many bombs.
I will look at those resources, thank you for sharing them.

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>>17260484
I also don't try to capture eternal meek. On normal it's not really a problem but on hard, and especially lunatic, it becomes a real pain in the ass. Bombing it is recommended because it will net you a lot of score and Sakuya will refund your bomb. There are safespots to the sides of Sakuya during eternal meek that will grant you a large number of graze points while also allowing you to capture it. I do not suggest using it as I find getting into the safespot to be harder than just capturing it normally. I have a couple hard 1CC replays where I died attempting to get into that safespot: pretty dumb. I believe it is showcased in at least one of those two replays.

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>>17260484
Also this is the boss rush patch for EoSD (for use with SpoilerAL, has other practice tools as well): http://www44.atpages.jp/~youthia/ssg/th06ssg.zip

niL, the ultra patch creator, also has an SSG for th06 with more features for practice but no boss rush: http://cheater.up.seesaa.net/th/thssg.zip

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>>17259254
Should I try Youmu out then? I tried her a few times just for fun but seems like a character you would only play as a challenge.

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>>17260407
>That is a baseless claim and even if it were true, it in no way refutes anything I've said. Thank you for your pointless post.
stage06.std had to be heavily modified in order to start the stage going into Utsuho's fight. This was done entirely by hex editing because no decompiling tools for stage background files exist, and yet nobody notices this change because they don't realize that otherwise you'd be fighting Utsuho in the sea of fire background. Good enough?

I'm not "refuting" what you said by saying this, I'm establishing that the person you're talking to knows what you're talking about better than you do and so mentioning that example is pointless. The fact that I pushed inner radius out a bit to force this dodging is irrelevant; I know this is more fun. The natures of the two safespots are simply different, as I previously explained. If you want to talk about the boss rush, maybe think about why the safe zone for Ten Evil Stars is removed altogether, while for BoWaP the screen floods with bullets if you attempt the safespot rather than just having a decreased spawn radius.

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>>17260355
You are obviously intended to dodge the suns by going up and down while dodging the bullets. Kill that safespot.
>>17260633
You should, she is refreshing to use and probably the best shot int he game, you gotta get used to her first.

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>>17260987
I only talked about boss rush because it forces you to dodge the suns rather than telling you to try manually avoiding the safespot, to illustrate why, if the safespot didn't exist, you wouldn't "naturally" end up in the middle since the overlapping would kill you, hence using the safespot isn't a "natural" response to the pattern but rather a memorized strategy, equivalent to using the BoWaP safespot, which is what the original anon was talking about. I don't care what your reasons were for changing the spellcard, and at the end of the day, you still offered no conclusive evidence (something along the lines of, say, editing any of your posts on shrinemaiden and linking it) that you are who you say you are, not that it really matters.

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>>17263488
Drake's posted here before, there's no reason for anyone to impersonate him.

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>>17263501
Duly noted. I'm a bit of a mathfag and enjoy poking holes in the logic of people's arguments is all. Not to say my own arguments don't sometimes have similar holes to be poked at.

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>>17263488
>if the safespot didn't exist, you wouldn't "naturally" end up in the middle since the overlapping would kill you
>hence using the safespot isn't a "natural" response to the pattern but rather a memorized strategy
If it didn't exist. But it does. You are arguing for the case as though the pattern exists as you want it to rather than how it actually is. Obviously if a safespot didn't exist there would be none that players naturally make use of or not.

When dodging you will naturally be pushed into the safe zone. You will eventually end up there at some point unless you are explicitly going out of your way to avoid it entirely, which as said before, is more difficult and makes no sense. That is how the pattern unfolds. Eventually, yes, you will learn that the best strategy is to simply head for that zone and do minimal dodging, but that doesn't matter. On any given pattern you're going to want to find a method for minimal, safest dodging. For Yuugi's 3rd non you want to stick to a bottom corner because then the bullets bounce favorably and give you the most room; this is another way that players will naturally make use of the safest way to dodge even accidentally for a few waves. The only reason you're focusing on Ten Evil Stars is from the stark difference in trivializing the pattern.

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Does Lyrica do funny things to the AI in PoFV or was it just the game's fucking stupid random everything (even the goddamn difficulty curve) giving me a lucky roll and putting all the hard parts on Yuuka and Eiki and letting me stock up on lives because it's a cool game like that (nevermind the pain it put me through as Youmu)?

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>>17263646
>When dodging you will naturally be pushed into the safe zone. You will eventually end up there at some point unless you are explicitly going out of your way to avoid it entirely, which as said before, is more difficult and makes no sense.
So you're telling me that to a player with no knowledge of the safespot(which is, to the player, equivalent to it not existing), the first thing to come to mind when seeing the left half of pic related is not to swerve up and down through the stars but to stay at a specific height and move left and right? And similarly when first confronted with the right half of pic related, that the "natural" response is for some reason to wedge yourself into the overlap? You have to be joking. Show any non-Touhou playing friends of yours this spell and ask what they think the strategy should be. I'm willing to bet that more often than not you'll get "swerve through the big red things while avoiding the small ones" rather than "stay in the middle and shift left and right". It's obviously through experimentation, accident, or having seen it done by someone else that a player would discover the safespot, which makes it no different than (ab)using any other safespot in the game.

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>>17257541
>>17259254
I did it guys!! I still hate the washing machine spellcard but now my chart is almost complete, Youmu will take some work but I'm definitely taking a break now.

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>>17264579
None of that is at all what I said. Please. It has nothing to do with a "first reaction", it is simply what happens. You will enter the safe zone simply by playing normally; being squeezed into the middle is going to happen. The player doesn't necessarily immediately acknowledge there is a safe zone and that is not the point.

It's interesting that you say "accident" though because that suggests that you already acknowledge what I'm saying but are too concerned with trying to disagree with me. How exactly will a player find such a zone by accident? Will they be taking inherently riskier maneuvers to happen upon it?

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>>17260573
I really appreciate you posting this boss rush but I can't make heads or tails of how to use SpoilerAL, the one guide I can find on it that's not in moonrunes is vague as hell and doesn't say how to run the game with the changes made. I guess I'll have to hammer away at it until I figure it out, but thank you!

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>>17265204
English patches are linked here
http://eientei.boards.net/thread/1004/quick-spoileral-tutorial

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>>17265230
Really shit ``tutorial'' but thank you for the english versions, I didn't know they existed. Now if only someone would be kind enough to put these all in cheat engine tables.

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>>17265204
Basically you run the game and go into pratice mode, start spoileral and make the changes and then go back to the game and restart the stage and the changes are now active.

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>>17265138
The only thing we seem to disagree on is the definition of "naturally". I don't see how the natural strategy isn't a left-up and right-down and right-left repetition through the suns near the bottom. I don't see why you think a player with no prior knowledge of the safespot would see him/herself squeezed between the suns and not panic run away or bomb. The only way you should be able to find it is if you let yourself get squeezed, not bomb or panic move, only to realize that you're not actually dead. If this kind of play is what you find "natural" then I have nothing left to argue. Anecdotal evidence isn't worth shit but that sure wasn't how I handled the spell the first 50 times prior to watching a video on how it's done because when I see fuckhuge suns about to squeeze me in I run away or bomb because I want to live, but apparently that's not the natural way to react to things so fuck me I suppose.

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>>17264733
Great job anon!

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>>17265230
Why does IN has ssl instead of ssg?

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>>17265138
>>17266896
This petty argument is not worth these essays. Let me just summarize so you can both get back to more productive things.
Ten Evil Stars' safespot is not necessarily a natural strat you should figure out immediately, but it's much easier to find than BoWaP's safespot and a player can reasonably be expected to find it, see >>17260355, without doing really stupid shit like what you have to do in BoWaP, though letting yourself get squeezed for the first time is arguably pretty stupid shit, but not as stupid, relatively. That said >>17257541 wasn't wrong either, since using the safespot is objectively less risky but less fun than not using it, which is the same as using the BoWaP safespot, regardless of how easy it might be to find it. "Actively avoiding" the safespot isn't being stupid, it's just not having a full understanding of the suns' sprite/hitbox ratio and not wanting to get too close or get squeezed. They do look really imposing after all.
Seems like I wrote an essay too but hopefully I spared the thread 5 more.
tl;dr safespots make patterns less fun, some safespots are easier to find than others, not finding safespots immediately doesn't mean you're stupid, let's all get along.

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So what's the quickest way to get extra lives in DDC? I noticed sometimes bombs will get me more life instead of another spellcard fragment, but I'm not sure how to influence that, or if it's random.

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>>17265230
>>17265957
I have it working now, thank you! I'd like to record a .webm of me capturing Scarlet Meister but EoSD seems to crash whenever I try changing it to windowed mode and it won't even save the settings for when I open it again.

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>>17267707
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Dealing_Character/Gameplay#Basic_Gameplay
Read the sections on bombs and lives. The wiki is good at answering basic questions about gameplay mechanics.

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>>17267833
Thanks friend, I appreciate it!

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>>17267441
Looks like a typo.

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>>17267819
Try changing the window settings in vpatch ini instead of the custom.exe

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>>17268678
I don't have vpatch because the game was crashing with SpoilerAL and I had to download the game fresh to get it to work.
I was using the in-game menu to try to change it. custom.exe actually did work but the game crashes on startup with this setting now, so maybe there's something wrong with my computer that hates playing this game in windowed mode.

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>>17264733
Nice anon!

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>>17268702
Are you using the version of the game that has the kanji in the *.dat filenames? Are you using the english patched version? Are you launching both SpoilerAL and the game with applocale? My version does not crash when using vpatch + SpoilerAL boss rush + no eng patch.

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>have a number of normal 1ccs under my belt
>been trying to 1cc ESoD for years, was always painful because the game was easy but I would do something stupid and choke on stages 3-6 whenever I was doing well
>been using most of the patches, but never bothered with the vsync one
>install it just for a lark
>elemental forces of autism align
>use every bomb perfectly before death and beat Remilia with 5 lives left

I don't know if it was the placebo effect or what, but holy fuck. Pls no quoterino

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>>17269884
I dont know what you were expecting, you didnt fix input lag which is very important for intense games like touhou, for years?

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>>17269949
I am stupid. Also, I came close to beating it several times even with the lag, so I wasn't really sure how big of a deal it was.

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I'm gonna give another try at 1cc'ing UFO and I want to step the difficulty up just a bit from my last one. Which shot type should I go for? Previously used Reimu B(homing amulets). I was thinking Sanae A since it seems like a slight step down from Reimu B but still has decent coverage, but how's her damage and bomb? I'm not very familiar with the different shot types in 12.

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>>17269587
>Are you using the version of the game that has the kanji in the *.dat filenames?
Yes.
>Are you using the english patched version?
It came with the download but I haven't been running the patched version and just the original.
>Are you launching both SpoilerAL and the game with applocale?
Yes, the latter doesn't even run when not using AppLocale. I suppose I should try using vpatch fresh just in case.

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I can't fullscreen DDC and LoLK. Anybody knows how to fix?
Also, anybody got the latest version of LoLK?

>---------------------------
>Old version detected
>---------------------------
>You are running an old version of Touhou Kanjuden - Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom (v1.00a).

>thcrap may or may not work with this version, so we recommend updating your game to the latest official version (v1.00b).

>The new version can be found at

>http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/th15dl.html

>(Press Ctrl+C to copy the text of this message box and the URL)
>---------------------------
>OK
>---------------------------

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>>17271824
Nevermind, didn't realize A was homing as well. I was thinking of TD's Sanae shot for some reason.

Sanae B seems okay, but kinda strange. I think Marisa B was more the style of shot I was thinking of going for, but I could also just say fuck it and go for pure straight shot with Reimu A. Any suggestions?

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>>17271853
Did you not read what you just posted? There's a link to LoLK 1.00b right there.

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>>17271877
Yes but everytime I try to run the update, it asks me to browse something (can't read, it's all in "?") and I can't select anything other than folders. Can't even select the .exe or anything.

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>>17271898
Select the folder your game is in. It patches multiple files, not just your .exe

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>>17271860
ReimuA and SanaeB are the best shots in the game.
MarisaA is okay, but you need to know the stages better if you wanna use her and SanaeA is also ok, just not as much.
MarisaB is the worst shot in the game and maybe in the series, up there with Sakuya Solo.

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>>17271898
This happens with all the updates, just search for the folder where you have your game with all the files and patch that thing up.

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>>17254269
Devil's Recitation is my favourite visually. I guess my favourite to play is maybe Yukari's final spell or something? I'm sure there's one I like more, I really love the ones that demand you to focus and unfocus pretty quickly to properly navigate them.

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>>17255987
Extra stage midboss.

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>>17271988
Thanks for the info, tried Reimu A. Not as easy to play as B but still pretty good. Sadly didn't get the run this time, ate my last bullet at St. Nikou's Air Scroll, another day. If I can fuck up less on Shou's stage I'll probably be fine, I only went in with 3 lives. Shou is a fucking cunt that I can't ever seem to not eat a bullet(usually several)on, though. I really ought to just go in with the mentality of fuck it and just bomb away anything that's problematic.

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>>17256391
Don't worry you'll get it eventually. The key to Mamizou for me at least was saving up trance gauge just for Deserted Youkai Island, as without trancing, it would eat up at least 2 lives or about 4 bombs.

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>>17260633
She's very awkward and wierd to use, but once you get used to her she's very fun, and much more capable than Sanae.
Just know that you have to give up all hope of capturing Yoshika's "Heal by Desire" when playing as Youmu. Her focus attack's slashes will destroy the spirits on the side and heal the boss, and Youmu's unfocused shot it too unwieldy to stay in the middle and spot-dodge the aimed bullets. Just resign yourself to timing that one out and you'll be able to enjoy Youmu runs much more.

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Was somehow harder than I expected. Shinmyoumaru is definitely one of the hardest bosses of the series.

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>>17272108
Well I already got the Sanae run so I won't rush myself to learn how to use Youmu, I've been doing some attempts at her but I haven't reached Stage 4 without dying yet, it's an interesting challenge and seems fun to do. I never captured Yoshika's "Heal by Desire" not even with Marisa or Reimu, most of the times I just use the Trance release against that spell.

>>17272161
Congrats! The spells where she makes your hitbox huge and those type of stuff are mind breaking the first time you face them, same goes to Seija.

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>>17272196
It's not the first time I 1CC DDC but I was expecting Marisa to make my life much easier. I guess I was wrong.

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>>17254595
Why not try any extra? Im in less progress than you in terms of main game but i still beat flan.

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>>17272359
Well actually I tried PCB's Extra just for the sake of it yesterday before going to sleep, it was my first attempt and got to this spellcard, I'm confused because I consider these to be way beyond my skills, even though I'm aware that PCB's Extra is considered to be the easiest of them all.

Normal 1cc on UFO was on my plans, but after doing this I'm not sure what to do, do you think I can pull this one out?

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>>17271824
>>17271860
>how's her damage and bomb
Here's some data so you can make a more informed decision.
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15824.0.html
Of course, the most important thing is to try out the shot in-game.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know why some of the Danmaku PH3 games doesn't work on Windows 10? Some of the games just show a white screen on booting them alongside with the normal script selection screen as when booting PH3 normally(without a game-specific executable)and the game scripts don't exist within such. Trying to boot via Danmakufu by putting it in it's script folder results in script errors(presumably because of missing code that was in the executable or something).

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>>17272407
I actually thought the eosd extra was the simplest since it's the least flooded with bullets having instead a more technical type of challenge(at least in the boss part), that was why i practiced that one till i deafeted it.
Regarding UFO i think it might be more reasonable to go for SA first but if you are more confident on the former then might as well try

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>>17272412
Neat, this is useful, thanks.

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>>17272470
I contradicted myself on that first part. I meant most suitable to my skill

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>>17272476
That makes sense. Aren't Koishi and Mamizou that way a little bit as well, highly technical? Might make some good first targets for some Extra clears.

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>>17272470
I've read somewhere that Flan was based mostly on raw skill rather than practice/memory on the patterns. I can't even get past Stage 4 in SA on Normal, but I remember that when I used to play on Easy I got SA first and UFO like a month later.

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>>17272485
I guess so but they're overall harder, being from the new windows era. In fact i didn't even beat normal on either of those games yet, but im training for it

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>>17272493
I don't know, maybe i get the feeling it's more technical because of levateinn but i get it might be seen as overall requiring raw skill because of the last spell, which by the way was the hardest part for me. He's my take on it anyway, don't mind the self defeat description, im actually kinda proud of it https://youtu.be/UD9BmIrQ19w

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>>17272518
Nice, the last 2 spellcards got on my nerves while watching, the misses were silly but it happens a lot to me in final bosses where I just randomly strafe left or right to run against a really slow bullet.

[Anonymous No.]

Only cute 2hus should be allowed to have cards this hard.

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>>17272580
Yeah, i was all like "fuck i might actually do this" and started both messing up and pussying it with the spellcards, at least i got it though

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>>17272613
Here's my chart, by the way. I started a few IN runs today to fill some squares, failed with sakuya/remilia because of a nice series of fuckups, got it with malice and youmu/yuyuko though

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>>17272591
That spellcard is fucking hard, i don't even remember if i captured it without items.

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>>17272850
You can do Netherworld Team Final B, or ReimuA PCB, those two are easy to do. I'd also recommend giving a try at TD. By the way what does that thing at MoF ReimuB means?

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>>17272901
I tried TD not long ago a few times but always lost when miko said "now we play for real" or whatever the actual text was. And i put a "LOL" in there because i did it only with the glitch

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>>17272925
Marisa B is the one with the glitch though.

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>>17272957
Shit, wrong square. I knew it would have happened, my autism has no limits

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>>17272591
If you think that's hard just you wait until you get to Day 10

[Anonymous No.]

Why does PCB mark scores where you've used a continue as 'C'?

[Anonymous No.]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I CAN DODGE ANYTHING EoSD THROWS AT ME EXCEPT ICICLE FALL I'M GONNA PUNCH CIRNO UNTIL SHE'S AN UNRECOGNIZABLE BLOODY MUSH REEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have the link to the gnu/linux wine configuration guide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17273352
C means "clear" I'm pretty sure, it means you beat the final boss. The way Touhou marks continues is by adding one point to your score for each one, since the scoring system otherwise only uses multipliers of ten.

[Anonymous No.]

Emerald Megalith is just too hard. I hate being confused so much.

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>>17273450
Thanks. I'm used to it only marking "clear" for games beat with a single credit, where when using more than one credit, it will display what stage you made it to on the first credit only, regardless of where you made it to with additional credits. I think that's how the PC98 games work and how the majority of non-2hu shmups work as well.

>>17273487
What difficulty?

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>>17273420
Do you experience any issues? If you do, it would be better to ask about your specific issue.
If you don't, congratulations! You've already done!
Seriously, touhou games don't need any specific configuration (if you use modern wine version, that is). You might need to use japanese locale, and that's about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17273498
>What difficulty?
Trying to do an LNB, which I probably have no chance of getting because I can barely even 1cc. So far in my runs I have mostly been choking on random places that aren't even supposed to be difficult, which gives me the hope that I might eventually get them all right, but on my last two attempts I managed to die to Emerald Megalith actually twice each. God knows why I keep bothering.

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>>17273358

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>>17273598
Enjoy your books

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>>17273509
I remembered looking at it, and it having a list of .dlls I needed. I guess so long as I have dx9_36 for touhou 11+ I will be good.

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>>17273671
I die to books almost always. They're not a problem, just a basic -1 life.

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>>17273358
What specifically are you having trouble with? The spell is pretty simple if you know how to do it, you only need to weave through one of the bullets on each side of the attack, and the yellow bullets only come out fast if you get too close to the boss (they're there so you can't just insta-win the card with the same safespot that's in easy mode).

[Anonymous No.]

How do I deal with Mountain of Faith? This spell is tiring.

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>>17273061
The only "hard" spellcard on day 10 is constitution bomb. The rest of the them are memorization city USA.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it wrong to use the visible hitbox patch for EoSD? Because not having it just feels bad to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>Finally Make it to Hourai Jewel Lunatic
>Die almost immediately
I mean it's not a true Lunatic 1cc since I'm starting with more lives but I still want to unlock shit in Spell Practice legitimately.

How do I not choke on Lunatic S3? It feels like it just vomits bullets and the only solution is bomb, and Keine's spells are bs

Also first time posting a list, how am I doing

>>17258936
>cleared EX of GFW
Tell me your secrets because that stage is pure bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck, i just did a fucking great run of eosd first time with marisa b, was deathbombing like a motherfucker. I did lose 2 bombs by dying against meiling (i hate those random bullets so much) but i ended up still having 4 lives after beating remilia. I don't know how i still haven't beat any new era game in normal

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>>17273833
it confuses the living shit out of me
by the time I regain my composure and try to sneak through the icicles they two icicle walls converge and i'm dead meat

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>>17275122
You have to keep leaning towards one side and quickly go through the icicles, then come back to the centre for the ones on the other side. Also do you use a keyboard or a joystick?

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>>17275133
keyboard senpai
I think i'll just go through the archives and try to find the icicle fall webm

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>>17275276
Cool, and do you have any issues with down+right? It was the reason i switched to controller

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>>17275326
not at all, diagonal moves are just fine for me

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>>17275346
Lucky you. I don't know if i should have bought a better keyboard or what but when i pressed that comb of keys it wouldn't work, i tried to remap the keys but the new problem that came along was that once in a while it would get stuck, potentially getting me killed and forcing me to pause and adjust it

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>>17274895
That's a pretty chart you got there anon.
S3 is pure routing, and a lot of shit is actually aimed but it just doesn't appears to be and can deceive you. Keine's spells are a matter of practice, they are mostly static. On the first one you would like to destroy the last 2 familiars she shoots,so you can dodge more comfortably in the center near the bottom. The second one can be routed,you should get a NMNB replay and try to replicate it. The 3rd one if pretty easy really, if you haven't gotten consistent in this one, you'll eventually do so and the last one is a clusterfuck. While the lasers are all static, every second wave of bullets is aimed,don't feel bad if you gotta bomb this one.
GFW Ex is pretty though, it is also pretty fun. I would like to help you but the farthest I got was the survival card, and I died immediately.
Nice IN progress btw!
>>17274593
Everything is way too hard in Day 10 itemless, the only easy ones I could do within 10 tries were 10-8 and 10-10.

[Anonymous No.]

I made EoSD boss rush patch. I need someone to test it on Hard/Lunatic and Patchouli rush pacifist.

https://comfy.moe/lzbvef.DAT

Installation:
Rename it to th06e_ST.DAT (or 紅魔郷ST.DAT if you run japanese version) and drop into the game folder. Do not forget to backup your original th06e_ST.DAT.

Changes:

+ Removed stage portions
+ Removed Daiyousei and Koakuma; rest of midbosses are present
+ Moon Sign 「Moonlight Ray」 is available on Easy/Normal; no changes from Hard version (it's very easy anyway)
+ Night Sign 「Night Bird」 is available on Easy without having to time out the nonspell
+ Illusion Sign 「Flower Dream Wine」 is available on Easy/Normal with lower bullet count
+ Patchouli rush:
E: Not supported (might work like Normal, though)
N: [Nondir. laser 1, Agni Shine], [Nondir. laser 2, Princess Undine], [Sylphae Horn, Rage Trilithon], [Metal Fatigue, Agni Shine HL], [Sylphae Horn HL, Rage Trilithon HL], [Lava Cromlech, Forest Blaze], [Water Elf, Mercury Poison, Emerald Megalith]
H/L: [Nondir. laser 1, Agni Shine HL], [Nondir. laser 1, Bury In Lake], [Sylphae Horn HL, Rage Trilithon HL], [Silver Dragon, Agni Radiance], [Green Storm, Trilithon Shake], [Lava Cromlech, Forest Blaze], [Water Elf, Mercury Poison, Emerald Megalith]

Bugs:

+ Fastforwarding through dialogue during Stage 3 causes crash; no idea why this happens, so just don't do it
+ Broken demos; too cosmetic to bother with
+ Explosion after Patchouli's death doesn't end and will be present during the following dialogue; too cosmetic to bother with
+ Wrong background during nonspell portions of boss fights and wrong percentage of completion on run statistics screen (see >>17260987); too cosmetic to bother with

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>>17276367
Hey, I played it on lunatic.
Some of Patchy's spells have way too much HP. I'm staying under her almost the entire time as Reimu B and can only just barely kill some of them before time runs out. Not sure if all of them are this way, but certainly a very good number of them are. Also for some reason her Extra spellcards showed up at the end, with all of them having that boosted hp I mentioned above. I didn't even know what the second round of Royal Flare looked like until today, much less the third and almost fourth.
I ran out of resources on Sakuya but I'll probably try again and report back if I find something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw I can get 1CCs on extras and some Hard CCs
>Yet still can't capture Possessed by Phoenix even once in spell practice
How exactly do I survive the second phase of the spellcard? I can do the last phases without bombing pretty consistently on full runs but the second phase is just a guaranteed bomb for me.

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>>17277683
Can't into webm.
Just look up a video online. This is what I use, but I'm sure there's other methods.

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>think I'm safe from the game's randomized difficulty garbage in Extra mode after a good run through it with Komachi
>come Eiki, it's still more of the fucking same
I fucking hate PoFV and once I'm done with it I'll never touch it again.

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43529
I finally got a Hard clear! My Stage 6 was sloppy as hell and I died to some nonspells that I really shouldn't have died to due to nerves but I did it! I'm one step toward not being a Normal shitter and becoming a Hard shitter instead!

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>>17278479
Congrats!

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>>17278479
CONGRATS MAN XD. I watched your extra clear a couple months ago. Were you the one asking for help with scarlet meister?

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>>17278593
Yeah, that was me. I did end up getting a capture with the spell practice SpoilerAL tool, but I haven't been able to record a .webm of it because EoSD crashes whenever it goes into windowed mode on my computer. During this 1cc run I ALMOST got Killing Doll for the first time, but choked at the last second.
I'm not sure if I should try PCB on Hard, go back and play the PC-98 games (starting with SoEW, because I'm really really bad at HRtP and can't seem to get another clear on Normal no matter how much I try despite doing fine at it when I started playing Touhou) since that was the order I took when I got all my Normal clears; or I go back and retry something I dropped like beating DDC on Normal with Sakuya-B, or beating TD's Extra.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17268733
>>17272359
>>17267290
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, my first extra! I'm actually speechless, I don't know how I did it because yesterday I couldn't figure out the Shikigami "Chen" spellcard and Shikigami's Shot "Ultimate Buddhist", but this time I had luck with those two.

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>>17278628
I think you should do the PC-98 games. Maybe skip 3 if you don't like those games and definitely skip the SoEW extra. 4 and 5 are fantastic games. 4 is easy enough that I think you should be able to get a lunatic clear in it at your skill level. Make sure you are using a non-shit emulator though (read: np2fmgen) or all the games will be janky and your runs won't really be valid or fun. th04 and th05 extras should be okay for you to complete too.

[Anonymous No.]

Who's harder
Evil Eye Sigma or Hecatia Lapizlazuli

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>>17278742
Oh, I actually meant playing the PC-98 games on Hard, I already have them cleared on Normal. I use Anex86 despite its inaccuracies because T98-Next lags and gives me slowdown on my toaster, but I'll try np2fmgen since I haven't used it before.

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>>17278859
I can tell you which one is more fun.

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>>17278874
You probably won't be able to run LLS and especially MS extra with np2fmgen without massive slowdown then. Both games basically require massive overclocking in the emulator. np2fmgen is based on T98 and its derivatives. If anex is all you can use than I don't suggest playing those extras. Anex makes everything janky, even the music.

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>>17278916
Yeah, I'm trying SoEW right now and getting frame dips as soon as Stage 1. There are settings in Anex86 that make the music slightly better, though listening to the same music on np2fmgen there's still a world of difference quality-wise.
If I weren't a poorfag I think I'd try to get a real PC-98 (and I assume repro carts of the original games, because I'm sure the original copies are retardedly expensive due to rarity) so I could play Mima's four games the way they were intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17278980
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/187001323001

[Anonymous No.]

Started playing Touhou a little while ago. Accomplished this recently with Reimu and Yukari. Trying to pass Normal without dying, but for some reason I end up dying at Marisa everytime. I guess I just need more practice.

[Anonymous No.]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if some amount of slowdown is actually canon on the real hardware. Alice's final attack is very hard when you run it in an emulator with 0 slowdown. It might not even be intended to get that fast.

CAVE's slowdown on their old arcade boards is actually caused by hardware limitations, where the game's fps dips when there are a lot of bullets on screen, which was the intended effect and is poorly replicated in emulators. Kind of curious to know how those PC-98 games run on real hardware.

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>>17278998
So I was right in assuming they were retardedly expensive. That's sad for me. Does the PC-98 require a special propriety disk or would a normal floppy disk that you can easily purchase work for it? I'm just asking out of curiosity since I really don't have the budget to import a PC-98 any time soon.
>>17279015
Welcome to the series! I wouldn't worry about a no-death run so soon, usually the only thing people worry about early on are 1 Credit Clears where you beat the game without continuing. You can try to avoid deaths in earlier stages if you think it'll give you more breathing room in later stages, but I wouldn't reset runs or anything like that if you get hit early on since you're still practicing.
I heavily recommend exclusively playing on Normal when you practice (or higher if you really wanted but definitely Normal at the least). The best way to develop reflexes and skills in this type of game is to play at a level that challenges you. Stage 4 is often considered the first "real" stage in a game and they commonly have difficulty spikes compared to the first three stages' level curve, so that's normal. For now you should just try to get as far as you can whenever you play.

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>>17278874
Holy FUCK SoEW doesn't ease you in at all on Hard. The stages are like almost identical to Normal mode (from what I remember) but the bosses are all insane considering how little room you have to move and considering the game's lack of focus mode. This shit feels impossible, I couldn't even beat Stage 3 with continues. You can't even bomb your way through the game because you only get one bomb per life with default settings.

[Anonymous No.]

FINALLY DID THE (7 lives) IMPERISHABLE NIGHT FINALB LUNATIC RUN!

Even if it doesn't truly count as a 1cc it still means I can do her Last Spells in Spell Practice and unlock the final Last Words. Also, can you unlock things like Last Spells in Spell Practice from Practice Mode?

How does one Print Screen/Record 2hu footage anyways? We need like a pastebin or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>17279510
>We need like a pastebin or something
No we don't. P will take a screenshot in most games and save it to %appdata% or the game dir. You can record gameplay with something like OBS or dxtory.

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>>17278701
Nice, i knew you just had to give it a good shot

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43532
Finally, finally 1cc'd UFO. Also, do people even watch these?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17279677
I do sometimes, mainly when i don't get how to dodge a spellcard though

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>>17279677
I just did because I'm struggling with UFO stage 4 myself, to see how you did it.
Apparently the answer is to bomb more to get at those hard-to-reach red UFOs, so I'll just grit my teeth.

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>>17274895
Wait, wait, wait.

You cleared DDC and LoLK extras which are fucking insanely difficult, but you're having trouble with GFW which is one of the easiest extras to do?

You tell me your secrets.

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>>17279945
DDC I have to do more "legit" as I MarisaB Cheesed it making it one of the easiest extras because holy shit that's broken. Hecatia's the hardest Windows EX and I cleared her so I can probably go back and do Raiko fairly.

I'm just not good with GFW's gimmick, I can't even make it to Marisa.

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>>17279950
I was about to ask what about it but then i remembered the spell card, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17279950
Did you save replays of your clears?

As for GFW, you just have to learn the gimmick and abuse it to gain tons of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

That's weird, I find DDC's extra to be one of the easier extras, at the very least it doesn't have bullshit like Genetics of the subconsciousness and Rorschach in Danmaku since most of Raiko's spellcards are pretty easy to do.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm >>17279891, and your post >>17279677 motivated me. I did it!

I had a great run through stages 1-4, with one exception where my keyboard acted up and threw me into one of Ichirin's bullets. When that happens I have to press the button on my numpad corresponding to the direction it moved me. It happened again on stage 5 but I managed to bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

Just completed all runs with each team and final stage combination possible in IN normal. I also somehow got an actual deathbomb against reisen in the last run which was kinda funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17278408
You what? Extra PoFV is incredibly easy and you should have like 5-6 lifes before Shiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17277635
Thanks for testing.
>Also for some reason her Extra spellcards showed up at the end
This is actually intentional. I thought that 13 spellcards aren't enough for a proper rush (Satori has 19) so I added her Extra ones too as -1st healthbar. It's -1st to be surprising.

>Some of Patchy's spells have way too much HP
Oh, I see. It's like this because I saw that Patchy's last healthbar had more HP on H/L in ZUN's script, so I thought that it means that H/L spellcards should have more HP, when it actually meant that last healthbar contains one more spellcard on H/L. Fixed that.

Fixed version:
comfy.moe/vyvmlw.DAT

Changes:
+ Spellcards on Hard/Lunatic have 1700 HP instead of 3400 HP (the same value as on Easy/Normal)
+ Extra spellcards have 1500 HP instead of 1700 HP on Easy/Normal and 3400 HP on Hard/Lunatic (i've tried original values of 1100 HP, but those are way too low; perhaps extra stage gives enemies some kind of resistance?)

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>>17280948
A boss rush patch for EoSD? It's everything I've ever wanted!
I could never get the damn SpoilerAI thing to work.
This is seriously awesome.


Although I keep forgetting about,
>Fastforwarding through dialogue during Stage 3 causes crash

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>>17280948
The extra spellcards on Patchouli are a bit much.
Also, aren't they much faster than normally?
Probably because you can't really get the rank this high in the extra stage even when it's on max, whereas after capturing 10+ Patchy spells the rank is crazy high.

And speaking of rank, it'd be a cool option to let you keep the rank always on max, even after getting hit.

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>>17280443
>Extra PoFV is incredibly easy
Only when the computer doesn't have a low opinion of you and fucks you over in the early stages by vomiting bullets onto the screen in incredibly obnoxious patterns (see Mystia) or just by vomiting a shit ton of them (see Lyrica). Sure it gets a lot easier as you continue forward due to getting extra lives but what the fuck kind of difficulty curve is that when stage 1 or 2 Mystia takes me over 10 tries to beat but stage 9 Reimu keels over dead in one go? That's not fun, it's infuriating. And it's not even consistent - like I said in the post, playing Extra mode with Komachi was actually pretty comfortable. That time, anyway. Tried it again just now and I ran into the same fucking thing.

So happy I did beat Eiki's Extra, though. Now I can leave this game behind and never look back. This random kusoge can go straight to hell.

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>>17281209
>The extra spellcards on Patchouli are a bit much.
Well, I don't know. Patchouli has only 13 spellcards, and some of them are just harder version of another one, like Rage Trilithon - Rage Trilithon High Level - Trilithon Shake, so I thought it would be a good idea to add extra ones to increase length and variety.
>Also, aren't they much faster than normally?
Okay, maybe you have a point. I usually die at least once during 3rd ~ 0th healthbar, so I probably face extra cards with relatively low rank. Can you make a replay? You can use
http://www.mediafire.com/?ys5x9hm44keax2b
this patch to save replays of a stage practice.
>it'd be a cool option to let you keep the rank always on max, even after getting hit
Agreed. That said, stage script can't modify rank, and I can't find any conditions checking the rank (actually, I saw some, but not everywhere) so I would probably need to modify the executable to do it. So it's probably not going to happen.

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>>17281489
>stage 1 or 2 Mystia takes me over 10 tries to beat
Oh no you didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17281489
>Stage 1 or 2 Mystia takes me over 10 tries to beat

A-anon I...

[Anonymous No.]

I would have picked up a shot put and made a hole in the wall before regretting it.

Fucking telemarketer had to intrude as Remilla came along. Excellent and lucky dodges, probably like 10. 2 months culmination, with a month break in between after a heartbreaking fail, and roughly 10 close-but-not-quite runs.

This is a NB run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282021
And for some inexplicable reason, the replay screen didn't shot up. So I never got this replay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17281489
I want to respond to the bait too!

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>>17278479
Wow congrats anon, that's a big step.
>>17279945
>GFW which is one of the easiest extras to do?
This is fake.
>>17280403
Interested in doing any of the solo shots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17281822
>>17281828
See, you get it. It doesn't make ANY sense that it is this way. It's just silliness borne of the RNG that controls everything. At least in the other, better games I can bomb and get the stupidly-random parts out of the way, instead of bombing and then getting a now-unavoidable Lily thrown on my face for it.

>>17282035
>b-bait
Not an argument.

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>>17279945
DDC is not diffucult doe, especially with the spell practice being a thing on the game, also it looks like he cleared the extra with Reisen, not so difficult as trying to clear it with Marisa for example.

>>17282039
>This is fake
It is not. The extra is all about timing your shots on specific sections and can be easily cleared with enough practice. Getting gold medals is another story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17281489
Anon I think you might be bad at the game, because I struggle to keep Mystia ALIVE for the sake of points, she will die on her own even if I do nothing to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282057
>in the other, better games I can bomb

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>>17282057
It seems to me that you are too stupid to use level 2 efficiently, my dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282021
Which patch is this?
Looks nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>17254149
>Interested in doing any of the solo shots?
I might and i did already download the score file but it feels illegitimate to me to do it since i didn't yet beat the extra stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282196
You quoted the wrong anon, and you don't need to do that, solo shots unlock when you beat Kaguya with all 4 teams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282196
Accidentally sent to op instead of >>17282039
Don't even ask how it happened because i have no clue

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282203
Oh that's how i thought you had to do it. Well then yeah, but i wanna clear some runs on other games, will give a try at TD now in fact

[Anonymous No.]

>>17282085
You can't be bad at randomness, my man. That's good for you if you're a super lucky lad and can make the game your bitch and all. I just prefer my high-skill games to be about, you know, skill. If I have to take a hit I'd much rather it be because I messed up and not because of undodgeable barrages of bullets past the point I could throw level 2 spells at them (or even have the time to charge the fucks).

>>17282095
Yes, in the other, better games there are ways to counter-act the random nature of things. Sure you still have your Eternal Meeks and such sometimes, but PoFV is nothing BUT Eternal Meek. Except a lot worse because the bullets aren't somewhat spreadout, easily visible from the corner of your eyes and moving at a consistent speed, it's all over the place and it doesn't take long before it reaches maximum bullshittery with bullets covering other bullets. Oh yeah you dodged Eiki's multicolored dildo but betcha didn't know there was a popcorn bullet hidden under it moving to where you are now! Should've saved all those level 2 spells that you would have died if you hadn't used them!

>>17282111
Level 2 spells run out, and quite quickly later on when the game dumps danmaku on you in ways that would make most Ultra Lunatic patches blush and/or flatout corners you with really dickish bullet formations. In the other games, dumping bombs like that at least meant the boss moves onto the next, hopefully not as random phase. You'll have less resources for further parts of the game, but that's the give and take. PoFV has no give at all, it just keeps throwing bullets down the screen like it's very angrily kicking the popcorn bullet tree no matter what you do. It's all down to luck in the end, no skill at all.

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>>17282377
>You can't be bad at randomness
Being able to adapt to randomness is a skill, though. I'm not saying you can't sometimes get bullshit bullet clusters, but that's what you save your Level 2s for. I would need to watch a replay of yours to know for sure, but it sounds like you're wasting them on clusters that are dodgeable.
Could you post a replay where Mystia is supposedly unbeatable? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and let you prove your case.

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>>17280169
I have replays of my EX Clears, yeah.
I feel like it's the stage throwing too many bullets at me for me to keep up with using the gimmick.

>>17280144
1. Use MarisaB
2. Bomb every non-spell Raiko has
3. Go in and out of the item border
4. ???
5. Profit!

>>17280403
Getting an actual deathbomb in IN feels so good since the window for it is so short

[Anonymous No.]

Is PCB Marisa B the worst shot?
I 1cc'd as everything else but her, a month ago. It feels like I lose all my dps as soon as I get hit and lose my max power, like I might start going pacifist at that point since the boss is going to die with 2 seconds remaining on the spellcard anyway. The supposed strong bomb isn't helping so much.

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>>17282639
Sakuya A is the worst actually, only thing that it has to offer is the spread unfocus shot, the rest is just outclassed by the other characters and shot types. Marisa B is the second worst though
>>17282224
Same guy here, just tried 2 runs on TD. Both failed, i don't know if it's because i can't remind myself to keep bombing because of the trance option or if the game overall is just so bullshit. Probably gonna bind the trance key to an impossible button that i wouldn't even wanna try going for

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>>17280349
Glad I could be of assistance. Not sure you needed it though seeing how many live you have there, I was down to my last when I finally beat Byakuren.

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>>17282502
I could try, but let it be clear that I never said Mystia was unbeatable, just that I had more trouble against her than I do with supposedly-harder bosses such as Reimu and Eiki. Her ghastly fire (or whatever they are) bullets that leave a trace of pointy bullets are quite apt at severely limiting your available dodge-space if you've already used your level 2 spells getting rid of all the other ghastly-fire trace-leaving bullets. But, again, this comes down to luck since there's no pattern to them nor to the bullets they leave behind. Sometimes they are directed in all the right places to fuck you over, sometimes they simply aren't.

>>17282639
>Is PCB Marisa B the worst shot?
ye, IIRC it's the last shot I beat Extra and Phantasm with because boss phases seemed to last a lot longer as her.

>>17282704
>Sakuya A is the worst actually
Isn't that the one that has the homing knifes? Is it really bad, coz I always found it to be one of the better shottypes in PCB alongside the Reimus.

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>>17283244
The homing characteristic of Sakuya A is just outclassed in utility and damage by Reimu A, which doesn't even require you to be at the right angle for the bullets to go towards the enemy
Update on TD: I did another run and died right before the end. Fucking kill me

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>>17283292
>utility
I'll give that to you.
>damage
No. Have you actually tried it? Solid numbers here if you care https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=181.0
Not to mention that you get more bombs as Sakuya

[Anonymous No.]

i did it brehs

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>>17283449
Is that 45.6% slowdown? You didn't do shit.

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>>17283462
>Caring about Point Device

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>>17283464
Who the fuck are you quoting? You played the game at half speed, which makes the run worthless, PD or legacy. You basically TAS'ed it.

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>>17283488
I'm not even that player I just think PD runs are irrelevant anyways since they're "try it until you get it"

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>>17283498
Oh, my bad. Totally thought you were him.
I don't think PD is that bad, and arguably harder than legacy if you know how to abuse the system.

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>>17283449
How did you got that slow rate? I haven't found any mod for slow mode.

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>>17283562
>>17283462
that was slowed down?

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>>17283644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D6fj5AUmnM
Switch between 0.5x and regular speed. Which feels more like the game you played?

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>>17283700
so i had huge lagspike everytime shitloads of bullets were on screen
i thought that was some help thing like hey there is shitload of bullets we may slow game for you to make you dodge it

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>>17283759
No, it should be a smooth 60fps. The only real laggy part should be when you die and when a fuckload of bullets get cancelled, and even that shouldn't be a big deal with decent hardware. Get better hardware and/or turn down all settings as low as you can.

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>>17283244
If you struggle with stage 2 Mystia how did you even unlock extra in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

Just realized that I have been trying for LNB with input lag all this time. Hilarious since I actually managed to make it to Scarlet Gensokyo before gameover.

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>>17283292

This is completely false. Reimu A's only significant benefit over Sakuya A is a larger deathbomb window, the extra homing is barely useful since you probably shouldn't be above/on the opposite side of the screen as the boss anyways. The damage is also way worse and you get 1 less bomb per life (in a game where you get a ton of extra lives).

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>>17283852
How many times have I mentioned the randomized difficulty so far? Or do you not know what randomized means

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>>17283759
>i thought that was some help thing like hey there is shitload of bullets we may slow game for you to make you dodge it
This exists as an option in PCB but is obviously incomparable. I don't think you can save replays using it either.

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>>17283976
Not him, but as mentioned before, developing strategies to overcome randomness is part of skill. There's plenty of random patterns in Touhou, you just have to find a way to deal with them that gives you a better chance than improvising.
As for stage 2 Mystia(on extra), I don't understand what you could be doing to make it hard. If you want to go full lazy, just dick around for 15 seconds, press x to launch your Lv4 if she used a boss attack, dick around for another 10 and you're done. You almost can't fuck this up.

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>>17283446
>>17283912
Weird, i remembered Reimu A being stronger if unfocused below the boss, but yeah i can see that the homing option ends up doing more damage, plus i had also forgotten about the extra bomb

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>>17282161
different anon, it's retexture patch
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Retexture_Patch

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>>17283976
Randomized or not. Mystia is literally easy Cirno tier.

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>>17283759
This aint a fucking CAVE game.

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>>17283759
This aint a fucking CAVE game.

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>>17282639
>>17283244
Woah, what's this sudden hatred for the best Marisa shot type to ever grace Touhou?
Even ignoring how hilariously busted her bomb is, you have a mixture of power, spread, and penetration that makes her very usable.

Of course, seeing how this is also a thread where someone is trying to argue that PoFV is complete rng, I guess the average skill level has gone down dramatically since /v/ invaded these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Rate my second clear.

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>>17285694
Second clear on MoF or second clear ever? because that's pretty good.

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>>17285581
>hatred
"oh yeah this shottype kinda sucks compared to the others" isn't hating anything. It's just saying that oh yeah, this shottype kinda sucks compared to the others. It's not even that bad of a thing considering it's sharing space with PCB ReimuA.

Of course, seeing how you seem to be one of those fuckwads that thinks PoFV is the second coming of Jesus Christ and anyone that doesn't like it is a philistine and bad, I guess I shouldn't be surprised you're an idiot and probably part of this /v/ invasion you speak of.

>>17285694
How the fuck is that your second clear, that score is higher than anything I have and I cleared MoF with all shottypes on Hard.

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>>17285725
Second clear on MoF since I installed it. I also cleared EoSD and PCB Normal, but I was drunk all those times.

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>>17285755
Post your replay buddy. I'd love to see this "second clear" of yours for myself.

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>>17285765
Okay. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43544

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>>17285755
Oh I see.. well then I guess you had previous experience with bullet hells before, I'm going to watch the replay too.

[Anonymous No.]

No idea who Peter is.

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>>17285795
Downloaded a scorefile?

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>>17285816
It's whichever one came with the download.

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>>17285771
Okay, so you went ahead and practiced the score route to near WR levels before getting a second clear. Good job anon.
>Rate my second clear
Undiluted autism/10.

>>17285787
>previous experience
I don't think you know how good that score actually is.

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>>17285833
>Undiluted autism/10.
Thank you.

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>>17285833
>I don't think you know how good that score actually is.
Actually no idea, but just finished watching the replay and it was fucking awesome.

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>>17285846
You're welcome.
Eagerly awaiting your third clear because that was only 70m behind WR up until that really unfortunate death before Sanae.

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>>17285857
>>17285858
I've been pranking you.
I hecka played MoF Normal like 4 years ago I just haven't touched it in 3 years until yesterday.
Does anyone play PoFV in these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Are we being bamboozled?

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>>17285581
>mixture of power
I said I'm having trouble after I lose those few P items. It is good, but the second highest power level feels like it's lacking. After you screw up it hurts double hard because you're stuck throwing peanuts for damage until you finish a spellcard, no spread either. Can't bomb all of them.
>spread
Unfocused, and only good for the stage portion. I'm having trouble with bosses.
>penetration
Same as above.

>/v/ invaded these threads
Well now who sounds like /v/? Next you're going to call Touhou SJW because it features strong females.

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>>17285886
i luv u

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>>17285886
Heh, it seemed like your 100th clear. If you happen to beat your score later post it here.

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>>17285886
Yeah. Why?

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>>17285982
>After you screw up it hurts double hard because you're stuck throwing peanuts for damage until you finish a spellcard
You haven't actually used a low power shot, then? Marisa B in UFO is suffering tier at anything but max power.

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>>17286182
It's real fun to play against other people, I was just wondering if there was a community for that around here now. I always had trouble finding people to play against.

[Anonymous No.]

Is GFW not that hard of a game or did I improve a lot in the three-year gap between my old high scores and my new high score? Because I remember this game kicking my ass until I was wearing it as a hat back then, but the 1cc I got just now took very little out of me.

>2014
Fug. I know for some of you this is pretty much fuck-all, but man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17286277
easiest game for survival

[Anonymous No.]

I did it, I finally beat Marisa /jp/!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17286277
GFW is still the hardest game for me. It took me like thrice as long to beat as any other Normal 1cc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17286277
>>17286576
GFW is so piss easy it's the only Touhou I was able to 1cc on lunatic.

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>>17287057
alright mister badass, we heard you the first time

[Anonymous No.]

Does TPDP belong here?
If so how the fuck do I beat Remilia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17287069
not my fault you suck shit

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>>17286098
back off hes mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>17287073
The Pokemon fangame? No. You should make a thread for it. You hit her hard with a steel attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17286363
Tell me your secrets, I can't even make it to Marisa

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>>17287273
-Freeze routes
-Basic spawn memo
-Basic grazing to get more freezes and streaming
-Bomb when there is a lot of bullets that you can't freeze
-pic related

[Anonymous No.]

so the only music CD i'm missing is 未知の花　魅知の旅
it sold at retaisai 8 for $2
it is now $200
a 9900% increase in price
fuck this stupid fucking retarded hobby

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>>17287541
Isn't that the one with only 3 songs? Did ZUN only make 10 of them or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17287541
After 3 years i'm still not sure if this is a crop or not

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>>17287564
It is, I've saw the full image once and didn't liked it, but the cropped version is one of my fav Reimu pics ever.

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>>17287564
>>17287577

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>>17287584
Why would she go for a handshake if she's butt naked?

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>>17287592
I think she's slapping the nigga's hand away.

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>>17287541
>a 9900% increase in price
the fuck did you expect

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>>17287098
i will beat you up

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best shot in IN that fights Reimu? I need to get her Last Spell on Difficulties above Normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>17287963
Marisa + alice with the rapid focus unfocus strat. Just make sure you start focused and then rapidly begin to unfocus and focus again etc so the familiars act as if you were just focused, that way you won't get hit by ying yang orbs

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>>17287963
Scarlet team. Magic team and their malice cannon is a meme.

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>>17288062
Just because it's a meme doesn't mean it's bad in the game. Same goes for the contrary, just because the scarlet team isn't a meme doesn't mean it's good.

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>>17288154
No but scarlet team is most certainly better than Magic Team, sicne they have higher damage output with remi, the option to use her familiars, a spreadshot with Sakuya and the malice cannon only helps on very few attacks.

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>>17287963
Scarlet. A lot of Reimu's cards require you to move around while she stays in a single spot, which makes Remilia's focus shot very useful

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>>17278859
Evil Eye Sigma.
Even with bomb invulnerability, Hecatia's spell cards give you shooting down time before they pick back up where they left. There's also the fact that you catch a break between attacks, as where as with Evil Eye Sigma that doesn't happen at all.

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>>17278859
Hecatia.
Evil Eye has stupid easy patterns, and is only difficult thanks to the stage before him and SoEW jank.

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>>17287963
Solo Marisa.
Yes, Alice is so bad that she actually drags the entire team down, MAlice gimmick or not.

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>>17289035
Doesn't that let all the ying yang orbs free to hit you regardless of whether you're focused or unfocused?

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>>17289194
Yup, but even then it's better than Malice.

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>>17278859
Me.

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>>17287963
Marisa Sola/Remilia Sola.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17289840
>Sola

[Anonymous No.]

>>17289874
Soda

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>>17290053

[Anonymous No.]

So i just finished Ten desires and I'm at a lost with Double dealing character, the copy i got from Nyaa(rip) doesn't have vpatch and its untranslated, where could i find an English patch for this game?, all the links i have found are dead. I was so exited for being able to play with sakuya again.

[Anonymous No.]

newfriend here
which 2hu game should I start with ?

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>>17290116
LLS if you don't mind emulation
EoSD or MoF otherwise.
>>17290080
You are gonna need thcrap I think, you might redownload in moriya shrine if you don't really want to set that up.

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>>17290080
oh yeah, I forgot to say but DDC never got vpatch at all.

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>>17290127
>moriya shrine
Thanks anon, i forgot about that site and it disappeared from google.
>>17290116
New to touhou or new to danmaku in general? If you have never play bullet hell before start by MoF or IN.
>>17290180
I though so, why there's so little love for this game i wonder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290127
>>17290191
thanks
I've played a DonPachi and Perfect Cherry Blossom ages ago, if that counts

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290116

If you care about lore at all then start with EOSD, it's not a bad place to start gameplay-wise either though it is a bit more difficult than some of the later games.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there patches that allow you to skip straight to a boss fight or a specific spell card? Because I think I remember hearing about something like that but I can't find anything on it through googling it

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>>17290294
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=20580.0

And also there's one for EoSD right here >>17280948

[Anonymous No.]

am I supposed to play touhou on a controller or on a keyboard?

I'm asking this because, maybe akin to how you can't git gud at fighting games without a fightpad, I need to get my skills up with the proper way of playing in order to not waste my time

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290420
They're more or less equally good, but controller has better fluidity while keyboard lets you do more precise movement

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290420
You can use one or the other. Really.
Just pick one and stick with it. The grass always seems to be greener on the other side of the river. It's not the controls you're using. It's you.
Practice a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>IN normal
>managed to get unscathed to Reimu
>not I'm losing lives to nightbug

quill me senpai

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290494
So you finally got the 1cc then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290507
the opposite

I used to manage to get 1cc to the final boss and loose there, not I'm starting to die at the first boss

what the fuck, its like I got worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290494
Don't stay unfocused just to get more time points, chances are you're gonna get to that last spell anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290523
how did you know I play the scarlet team?

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>>17290517
How many attempts today?
Think of it this way, you're doing good at your best, you're doing bad at your worst dying to the bug. If at your worst you're going to beat Keine, you're going to get 1cc no sweat at your best. Keep trying.
Just don't bust a vein.

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>>17290529
You know, I might be worrying too much because for the last attempts I made I restarted from the beginning as soon I lost a life to nightbug or mystia or even one of the stage faries

[Anonymous No.]

>chase power up drops
>run into bullets or bad spots and loose a life

tell me this happened to other people and I'm not suffering from a special kid case

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290525
Look at it as a sakuya-to-sakuya advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290557
only one of the best girls

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>>17290537
That's absolutely the worst you can do.
Don't do that. Instead think of those as practice runs, try prod the stage 5 boss, see if you can dodge a few of the stage 6 spell cards using continues. Plan your bombs a little. As it is you're going to be doing stages 1-4 perfectly but die horribly 5 times at stage 5. Always try to at least finish your runs.
>>17290549
Don't feel bad. You're going to naturally learn to let a ton of those point items slide instead of chasing every single one. Most games you're going to get a set amount of lives anyway, you don't have to take every risk.

[Anonymous No.]

>go through stages 1-4 with 2 bombs and no deaths
>get through stage 5 with a couple more bombs
>die twice at stage 6 before the boss
>lose all lives without bombing against miko out of demoralisation

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>>17290594
>lose all lives without bombing

You reminded me of a problem I have
I can't bomb enough, i have this super conservative mentality of "I have to save my bombs whatever it takes!" and I end up dying like a bitch without ever using them

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290607
99% of people have this problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290594

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>>17290080
Do any of the games besides EoSD even need the Vpatch? It's the only one I've patched and I've 1cc'd all of them on normal except for SA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290734
Can always give a double check on the proper running of the game

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>>17290734
PCB is similarly bad, IN is kinda bad, MoF and on it typically still saves about a frame.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31479476
yuke...
k*mofure...

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>17293515

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>>17293571
it the autist ster lol

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck UFO AAAAAAAAAA
Just give me my Hard 1cc I didnt remember having this much problem in normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>17293952
Maybe because it's a different difficulty. Which means the experience is analogous but not homologous

[Anonymous No.]

On some days it is impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17294232
無理は無理だろう！　ｙｏｕ　ｂｉｔｃｈ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>17294232
Bad 2hu day.
Get used to them if you haven't already, they happen.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally got to the final boss of DDC, this is the first game I've played.

I gotta say, every time I get to a new stage, I get absolutely floored and think "This is fucking impossible, how the fuck am I supposed to dodge that?"

I'm feeling it with Shinyoumaru but goddamn I beat the rest so I'm beating her too. Did anyone else have this experience with their first game, though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296011
Yes
This is fun, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296152
It's lots of fun, I've even downloaded a few of the other Touhou games to see how far I could get in them (Generally, stage 5, even in LoLK but that's only because I abused the shit out of Reisen's bombs, so that doesn't count. I have no idea how to dodge ANY of that shit. Clownpiece looks impossible, and there's no spell practice in that game right?)

It's definitely encouraging, I guess, seeing myself beat things that look insurmountable. The run that got me to stage six that first time was the one that I said "Shit this one's not getting close to Stage six" since I died twice to that dullahan chick

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296199
Well this is exactly it.
Just remember that everything is technically possible to dodge no miss no bomb even on lunatic, it's just very, very hard. Keep at it, your first 1cc is very important.
Just remember to finish your runs, even if you have to continue, this way you can practice stages 5-6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296231
I've been doing that as much as I can (Though also using the practice stages to try and get 5 and 6 decent enough so that I could have a chance of getting through), as well as playing a few runs on hard mode to try and get better at actual skill rather than memorization.

I actually tried easy mode a bit ago, just one run, didn't 1cc since I lost 2 continues to the final boss (And that told me enough to know she'll be a nightmare in normal, and so far she seems to be.) and haven't touched it since. Don't want to waste the first 1cc on an easy clear.

I do like how skill-focused the game is, I kind of expected it'd be the type of game where you just learn the phases where each fight is "Follow this list of instructions to the letter to win the fight."

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296260
Shit wrong pic

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>>17296011
Weird that you have chosen DDC to be your first game, as it's a hard game because Seija and the final boss, I'd recommend PCB IN and TD if you are new, the first two are amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296333
I've mentioned on an earlier thread that I actually asked a few friends what the best game to start with would be, like what would be the easiest one, and I was told DDC was the place to start.

People here told me otherwise, but I figured I had already fought my way to stage 4, I might as well finish the job.

[Anonymous No.]

>Trying to Cheese MoF EX for shits and gigs with MarisaB
>Keep panicking at Suwako's first survival card because I forget she has two
Man I did this legit before but I just choke there. Playing IN for an extended period of time doesn't help shit that deathbomb spoiled me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296011
>>17296347
DDC is a horrible place to start for a beginner.
The game is really hard and filled with gimmicks.

You can keep trying if you want, just don't kill yourself over it.
I'd recommend switching over to EoSD, PCB and IN for the time being.
These games are beginner friendly and teach you all the basic skills of danmaku dodging you'll need.
Games like DDC or LoLK expect you to already know what's what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17295337
On this day, it was possible. There were misses all over the place, but I got the LNB! Curiously, I only failed three spell cards: 彩光乱舞, 吸血鬼幻想 and 紅色の幻想郷.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296767
And a ching chong nip nong to you too young lady

but seriously congrats, that's pretty impressive

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296876
It was honestly much more difficult than I thought it could be. I played for hours everyday for the whole week and I just barely scraped by... People who can do casual LNBs are scary.

>And a ching chong nip nong to you too young lady
Sorry. That's just a Meiling spell card and both of Remilia's most random ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17290594
Update: i actually did it just now. I thought i was in a bad day, after dying and losing 2 bombs on stage 3 but i decided to go full autism and try to win regardless. Ended up having 3 lives left after killing miko

[Anonymous No.]

>>17297017
>I played for hours everyday for the whole week
wow that's a lot of playing congratulations you totally put in a lot of effort !

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296759

DDC is not that hard (it's relatively easy really if you use Marisa B or Sakuya A) and the gameplay system is very straightforward. It teaches you how to POC too which is good. I don't think there's anything wrong with it as a first game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17296759
I tried a bit of EoSD, enough to get to stage four. The older games just feel a bit clunkier to me, but I suppose that's just cause they're older.

>>17299384
I've been using Sakuya A, after playing a lot of Reimu B (which i was told was the easiest.) and found Sakuya was a lot better. It wasn't until like a week ago that I realized her knives actually make the bosses slower

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>>17299384
>I don't think there's anything wrong with it as a first game.

That's because you and your opinions are retarded.
And also, you're wrong.

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>>17299384
>It teaches you how to POC too which is good.
I agree, I got used to it thanks to DDC, it's useful for practicing but from Stage 4 to 6 it might get really hard for beginner players, I'd recommend the game to those who had already achieved 1ccs on the rest of the games.

Anyways if this guy gets his first 1cc on DDC then he might improve his skills real fast which is awesome.

>>17299809
There's no need to be rude.

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>>17299591
Whoever is telling you these things sounds like either a retard or intentionally trying to mislead you. Even with SakuyaA the game requires very good bomb use, as well as having a truly absurd final boss with at least one attack that will straight up eat 5 bombs/lives, and I'm not really sure how well you would do without knowing when to bomb just for 2.0 bonus life pieces. I'm just a filthy normal player, but I'd say the game is one of the hardest in terms of bullets (though compensated for by all the extra lives and bombs), and even when you add it all up it's still one of the harder games.

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>>17299975
>Whoever is telling you these things sounds like either a retard or intentionally trying to mislead you.
I've been getting the feeling, since games like TD have been exceedingly easy in comparison, even getting near the final level in one go. I have been getting pretty good with bomb use though, and I can manage to get to stage 5 without losing a continue, so I guess it's working out for me?

>>17299973
>>17299384
I've noticed the other games don't reward me with lives/cards for using POC, so I'm not sure how to get more in those (other than TD which just seems to have them drop from enemies.)

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>>17300036
You gain extra lives in PCB and IN by collecting the blue point items, you can see on the screen how many you need to capture like shown on pic related, you can only do POC when your power level has reached "Max Power" but you can do it while not having your power maxed in IN if you press your focus key on the item get area.

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>>17300036
TD is very technical in terms of bullet patterns, you just have to understand how they work and you'll get away with most stuff. Only thing is that the difficulty curve actually does its thing on stage 6, but by that time if you've been stacking well for all of the previous ones and didn't half ass them you can just spam bombs and kill her easily.

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>>17300098
>mfw been playing since 2013 and always thought you got an extra life every x amount of score instead of that point counter

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>>17300118
Who are you quoting?

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>>17300276
Not a quote, it's a mfw.