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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>1.68 and prior versions changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Discussion:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Chat server back online:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535#107

>Previous Thread
>>17198667

Current Version: Elona+ 1.68 (5/28/2017)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.68.1

>> No.17214469

Mani was here
Lulwy a loser

>> No.17214476

>>17214457
Updated pastebins. It would have been done last week if Pastebin didn't bug out for me.
I think it's good the thick anon uploaded his works, otherwise they'd be lost with time.

>> No.17214537

I gave my Defender like 70 CON just by fusing her with giga bomb rocks and giving her potions of descent. Jesus, no wonder they're so rare now.

>> No.17214614

>>17214457

Beginner here, two questions:

With Elea Warmage what weapon type + armor should I use (or is there a better starting class)?

And how do I make it where equipment doesn't show up on your sprite? I have a graphic pack and the actual armor + the larger sprites look horribly ugly, and I'd rather not have it show up at all, and only the avatar you make at character creation show. >>17214457

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>>17214457
Post your character sheets so we can see your progress, anons! PCs or pets, new player or old, it doesn't matter.

>> No.17214647

>>17214614
First, whether you wear a robe or a plate mail doesn't decide if you are in light/medium or heavy armor. Look at your inventory screen and you will see your total equipped weight. Under 15 is light, between 15 and 35 is medium, then heavy. You definitely want to be either in light or medium weight. Medium already gives a bit of spell failure but as you get more armor skill it's not so bad. Heavy gives way too much.
So basically equip whatever good stuff you find, but keep in mind your total weight. Should probably stay in light weight until you get a few levelups on your spells, which also increases spell cast success.

For weapon, use the best one you find at the beginning, but using a shield or dual wielding also gives you a 5-6% spell failure chance, so only equip a single weapon and leave the second slot empty. Later when you find a tonfa you can put that into your offhand slot, it doesn't count either as a shield or dualwielding.

As for your sprite, go to Palmia and find the dressing room, you can disable showing your armor there.

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>>17214620
I never actually thought playing a mage would be fun.

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>>17214620
first time playing something besides a lich war-mage. I'm having fun

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Reminder that there's a poll running for the /jp/ soccer team in case you haven't noticed the flurry of new ads. It's a chance to get Elona repped on the /jp/ so go vote!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeINzN1eAQI1ry_-WZbISdy0Qn6oIBFKdZv5funujP2Q0F7hQ/viewform?usp=sf_link#response=ACYDBNhGzYDCl-sYbXeCL_Yw0y0j6vESLqkNf45RDXI52q4wCn8aEiMDdns

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>>17214620

My work so far. Most of the heavy lifting is done by my little girl and the defender.

...I want custom sprites and icons.

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>>17214620
My second character ever after playing the same one off and on again for years.
Decided to do a no save scum ever run, and went with a Tourist since I thought it would be fun to be the random sight seeing shmuck who stumbles through the story.

I have to ask anons, what should I do now? Part of me wants to try and be "efficient", while the other wants to faff about until I accidentally beat act 1 like my first character did.

Also, did they buff lucky day occurrence rate? I've had one at least like once a month for 7 in game months.

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>>17214620

many many herbs foods speed uppers etc later

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What did I do to deserve this fate?

>> No.17215406

>>17215373
Just
TP
Away

>> No.17215412

>>17215406
They were actually pretty easy. It's weird because last time I saw one it fucked my shit up and I barely won. Maybe it was inside an awakened dungeon.

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>>17214620
I'm sure I suck but I'm having fun, still can't reach floor 16 on the cave.

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>>17214620
First character I've stuck with (mage is pretty fun)
still in act 1 (dunno if i'm being slow or what :P)

>> No.17215599

So will using Elosnack on elona custom fuck anything up? I had a power outage on my loss save and all those hours down the drain, I'm gimped. I was even playing through after completely changing what I wanted to do feat wise and staying gimped, that was fine but the massive life penalty and losing all my karma, becoming a criminal and getting hexed because my computer went off is torture. '

>> No.17215623

>>17215599
Supposedly Custom is fully savegame compatible with Elona+, so if it works with E+ then it should work with Custom savegames.

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>>17214620


I don't know how to feel about my progress.

Of course, being a mage, I feel squishy all the time. Is it worth it to farm those music tickets for hero cheese? Or should I try and raise vitality more?

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17215681

Today is the day I lose my Elona virginity, /jp/!

I look forward to getting along with you all. I'll be in your care.

>> No.17215723

>>17215681
Good luck.
There's a pretty large knowledge barrier when it comes to getting into the game, so try not to get too discouraged if the going is rough.

>> No.17215851

>>17215681
Glad to have you anon. Just take your time and have fun!
There is a beginners guide in the OPs pastebin, and if something confused you there should be something on the wiki about it or you can ask the thread.

>> No.17215860

>>17215681
I envy you, learning about Elona was more fun than playing it.
And playing it is pretty fun.

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I know it says character creation especially the first time around isn't that important but I had fun anyways. How'd I do.

Also I'd appreciate a spoon with the chat. I don't see "noaneko.squares.net%elona.squares.net%" in server.txt. What I see in it is an error message in codespeak with alot of "nifty" URLs and 404.

I dont know jack shit about coding but replacing everything with "elochat-proxy.shiroko.yi.org%elona.squares.net%" didn't seem to do anything and running elochat.exe replaces it with the error message above anyway.

Lastly do I need to manually savebefore exiting the game or is it automatic?

>> No.17216020

>>17215923
That's actually correct. I too thought something was wrong judging by the error message. Try pressing / and then tab twice. You should see the chat log.

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>>17214620
This is my lowkey chuuni Elea. In act 3 now and mostly wandering around randomly, hoarding equipment, and getting stronger. Around 400 hours logged and hopefully many more to come.

>> No.17216146

>>17215053
Personally I can't live with myself if I don't have the infrastructure to begin snowballing set up. Faffing about is fine but it's always good to have options.

>>17215923
Saving is only automatic if you press Esc and exit! Exiting out of the client manually will cause you to lose progress and incur savescum penalties if you're playing in a gamemode with them. Otherwise you can press F1 to autosave.

>>17215659
>Height 273 cm
W-woah
>Weight 54 kg
Spooky!
Your life looks okay anon, but you're definitely on the squishy side and your stats are fairly low for your level. Try to get better equipment with higher elemental resists, raise your PV, and eat some herbs to patch up your stats.

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>>17214620
Final preparations are complete for my lv 6666 void dive. All my pets have superb 5 hashtags/pound+ or at least class 7 resists in everything. Surprisingly I didn't have to make too much use of artifact fusion for some of my pets. For instance, for my pet Saya I crafted pieces with enough resists that I only needed to craft a living weapon, in her case a panty, to fill out any resist holes. Pretty easy to manipulate resist choices by going to the blacksmith and hardening the living weapon.

I really like how the object of heart acts like a list of things you should work on for pets. Don't know how high of PV or DV you need to cover the physical damage weakness though. Almost all of my pets have similar protection values to my character and I haven't had problems yet. If things get crazy down there I'll probably work on armor skills, getting Nefia cores, and farm more hero cheese for the party.

My character Kai will be the main damage dealer. He'll be assisted by Saya and Akeno in doing melee damage with Akeno probably playing tank due to her damage resistance. Mai will play midfield where she'll destroy smaller enemies that like to mob with magic storm. Mina will be in the back bursting down enemies with arrows. Hopefully I have enough firepower to cut through each enemy having 20 million HP eventually.

>>17215053
Work on restoring your attribute potentials and by proxy making gold. Invest in magic vendors until you see potions of potential show up and bless them before consuming to restore all your attributes. About 4 blessed potions of potential should take you to superb from hopeless. If your alchemy skill is high enough you can also make potions of potential.

>>17215659
It's worth it but it takes a lot of time to farm hero cheese. You'll get a lot of bang out of hero cheese as you level up too. Ideally you should be leveling your character, working on constitution, and slowly raising your life attribute to become less squishy.

Having said that, sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Don't have to worry too much about being squishy if everything has been turned to ash before anything bad happens. So leveling up your attack spells can help there.

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>>17214620

>> No.17216383 [DELETED] 

Is there a healer in Derphy? I put on a cursed item out of curiosity so yeah.

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>>17214620
First timer and I think i'm doing ok. Only died from reading too many books and went -300 because I didnt wait for my mana to regen.

>Black cat lick granted a chance of extra ranged attack
Nice

>> No.17216420

Hey i accidentally gave one of my pets (a catsister) an extra ring slot
I hear there's like a 5% speed penalty if i go over 13 slots
Can i remove the slot or am i just stuck with the penalty?

>> No.17216433

>>17216420
You can get back to default slots with your pet by going to Icolle the biologist in Port Kapul but the procedure will reduce your pet's life attribute.

>> No.17216443 [DELETED] 

Stupid question here, is there an easier way to collect quest completion rewards. I take a quest from the board, finish it, and exit the area by walking off the map, then I have trouble finding the NPC that gave it.

>> No.17216452

>>17216433
Ah nice i saw that you can add them through that person but the wiki didn't say if they could remove them

>> No.17216460

When does investing into magic shops past 100-150 start making a difference? I'm at 200 and I feel like I'm only getting fewer mat/wonder scrolls or maybe I'm just unlucky.

>> No.17216483

How to make it easier to dominate? Does lowering HP helps?

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level 98 putit riding a tank vs level 500 Tumor

>> No.17216536

Is Eyth of Infidel actually a god? When you try to pray it says you don't believe in god.

>> No.17216549

>>17216536
Eyth of Infidel is akin to Malal in that both don't exist but do so stop asking questions about it because Malal and Eyth definitely don't do exist.

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No one can resist a dancing skeltal

>> No.17216632

>>17216609
Except Belrick who loves himself a little too much

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>> No.17216751

> Statue of Yacatect now gives platinum pieces and small medals when the date changes [instead of using a cooldown].
From 1.67 changelog. How does that work? I tried using it at midinght a bunch of times and didn't get anything but gold.

>> No.17216979

What happens if you attack the random merchants on the world map.

t. not nigger

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>>17216979
YA GET FREEEEEEE CANDDEEEEE

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Newfriend here, could someone help dumb down equipment/weapon for me? I've just been wearing PV focused stuff that isn't too heavy since that's what the guide said. How does dual wielding work? I read anything above 4.0s will incur massive penalties if dual wielded but I can't seem to hit anything with a 6.3s Bardish with the other hand empty. Is there a recommended equipment weapon or setup? And can you dual wield pistols or should I just give my pets a shotgun? What do weight and speed do respectively in combat? I don't quite understand the turns system where it seems like I walk one step and my pets walk 2. Also I'm about to break level 10 so I don't know whether to get warrior, wizard, or archer rogues from the slave master next.

>> No.17217085

>>17217064
Also I might have been putting the guns in the wrong slots. It seems theres 2 hand slots and a range slot so I'm not sure what goes where.

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>>17214620
I currently have three major goals. Getting little sisters for Kumiromi statues to get a stable herb production. I have one herb farm so far and I struggle to keep all the field tiles occupied with herbs. I rarely get herb seeds from harvest quests so I try to boost it with Kumiromi statues.

Buying every scroll of wonder I can find for the summon spirit spell. I'm not sure if this still works, but I'll try to summon them in party quests to get mad points by performing to them or alchemical rain love potions all over them. Someone here said you can get an insane amount of tickets this way. Probably Kai. I'll trade them for all the hero cheese, happy apples and magic fruits to get those stats up.

And finally getting all the god rewards for completionists sake. I think I buggered that one up, since I can't seem to find Lulwy's Wind Bow anywhere, but I have the Tempest Collar. Even the scientist doesn't reward the bow, so I must have skipped it.
Guess I have to gain favor for that nudist once more to get it before I settle on god.

>> No.17217119

>>17216979
He will summon some mercenaries and fight back. You can take his stock items if you win, but at decent karma cost.

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>> No.17217148

>>17216654
>>17217125
This is about the names right? I'm playing my first time and I got the alias Trusted Virgin.

>> No.17217196

>>17217119
It is important to note that you don't actually have to kill the body guards, just the merchant.
Kill him, lure bodyguards away, teleport near it, loot it, GTFO

>> No.17217200

>>17217064
>How does dual wielding work?
You put (<=4.0s) weapon in your main hand slot and (<=1.5s) in your off-hand slot(s). Using heavier-than-intended weapons will impose large accuracy penalties.
>a 6.3s Bardish with the other hand empty
This governed by other skill - Two hand.
>can you dual wield pistols
Nope. There is no second "ranged weapons" slot and if put in primary slots they will be used as melee weapons.
>should I just give my pets a shotgun
Only if he likes to get close to enemy. Shotguns have short firing range and steep damage penalties when used anywhere but point-blank.
>I don't quite understand the turns system where it seems like I walk one step and my pets walk 2
Pet have higher speed than you. Anything with higher speed gets turns more often. So, if you have speed of 100 and quickling nearby have speed of 1000 then after you make an action, this quickling will make ten actions until you get your chance to do the next one.

>> No.17217213

>>17217200
Thanks a bunch friendo!

>> No.17217216

>>17216199
Good luck!

>>17217096
Summon spirit has been nerfed, sadly.

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This is stupid.

>> No.17217228

>>17217216
So spirits don't contribute point anymore ?

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>>17217216
>Summon spirit has been nerfed, sadly.
Bums.

>> No.17217251

>>17217228
I'm not too sure but they are a lot less effective.

>>17217240
Indeed

>> No.17217262

>>17217251
So why do I hoard those scrolls of wonder. Meteor?

>> No.17217278

>>17217262
And Wish.
Harvest isn't hurting you, either.

>> No.17217279

>>17217262
Iunno, can you get wish from them? That would be awesome.

>> No.17217300

>>17217278
>>17217279
What do I do know to get life, mana and luck up? Grind myself retarded with party quests?

>> No.17217303

>>17214620
I made this one from a gene my cute elf girl made, I have no idea how he's level 26 already but fuck his house is nice. If only he could be less edgy and work on his stats.
That fucking background description.

What level do you anons think I should be at with these shit stats?

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>>17217303
I'm a fag who forgets images at 7AM, please kill me.

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>>17217300
>what do I do now to get life
stop playing

>> No.17217312

>>17217300
For starters, you could test by summoning spirits in a party time quest, somewhere without NPCs, satisfy them thoroughly with your expert mouth, and see if they award you points.

>> No.17217315

>>17217311
RHODESIA

>> No.17217333

>>17217303
>>17217306
Honestly you could be any level with any stats. But yours are looking alright. Your speed is quite low, you might benefit from a speed ring or two. I think your main goal right now should be to get as high resists as possible, slowly build up an herb farm and level your crafting skills. Pretty soon you'll be able to beat act 1 if you haven't already and start getting AP, then spend it at Leold.

Maybe try leveling mining for some CON and Houzanha (30 skill).

>> No.17217364

>>17216146
>>17216199
Alright, guess I will start trying to be productive in a bit. I just got my little girl making breakfast for me so the potentials should be getting somewhat better soon.

First I want to try and achieve my mini goals though.
1. Get all the non guild skills since as a tourist I have a LOT to learn.
2. Train alchemy the last 3 points to get duplicane.
3. Get my faith high enough to start doing god rounds since I didn't bother until after act 1 first time around.

Should I just do tons of quests and low level dungeons to try and save up money for a palace? Or focus on a couple of magic vendors and get my equipment +10? Feels strange and fun to start at the bottom with no idea what to do again.

>> No.17217469

>>17217223
Stealing is wrong.

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I thought about playing this, but from the looks of my first hour and all the guides out there, it's a bit too complex and "rustic" to me.

Maybe I'm just too dumb to enjoy this level of stuff.

>> No.17217495

>>17217478
Don't give up yet.
You will get used to all the things with the time.
You just have to try and try until you get hang of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

>> No.17217496

>>17217478
Not at all, I believe in you. All it takes is persistence and motivation.

What helped me was general roguelike experience. Knowledge about one rl usually carries over between games.

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>>17214476
Ah yeah, I updated them actually. Here's the download: https://mega.nz/#!pigUzIwR!BQRPqT5e2ZKWnWf4JA80J-aF_w4rzfkbYRCIBuGU8cE

I'm also collage guy. I'll keep making stuff until I inevitably disappear into the void lads

>> No.17217501

>>17217279
>>17217278
I've spent 500+ blessed wonder scrolls already, sitting at ~3000 meteor and harvest spell stacks, but still no wish. Not sure it's obtainable this patch. Or maybe I'm just unlucky?

>> No.17217506

>>17217501
Every time Wish is rolled via a scroll of wonder, there's a 90% chance that it's rerolled instead. Keep trying, anon!

>> No.17217511

>>17217501
Got 200 stock with 1000 scrolls.
Yeah.

>> No.17217521

>>17217511
And then you have 1% chance to actually cast it.

>> No.17217557

>>17217521
Don't worry you only need like 1000 casting to get it to 100%.

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>>17217557
Actually, wish casting chance goes DOWN as it levels up. Because fuck you, that's why.
But for minimal stock usage you need it around level 300.
So the path is simple : put skill points into wish up to 300, and grind casting until it's 100% wastable.

>> No.17217588

>>17217577
That is fucking stupid. That means eventually it just becomes unusable.

>> No.17217611

>>17217588
Iirc there's a Casting level at which wish's cast chance no longer declines.

>> No.17217614

>>17217588
you don't even need unlimited wishes in this game unless you want to massively scum for randarts

>> No.17217615

>>17217611
That's acceptable. Even if it's lvl 2000 as long as it's possible I'm content.

>> No.17217618

The <Super Lure> is absolutely insane.
I have low fishing and cooking, yet it already rival my buying from NPC/selling in shop scheme.

I'm sure with beetle bait, a barbecue set and a pet strong enough for bloodsucking, you can produce millions per real-time minutes.
In fact, i wager it's a more efficient use of real-time to gold generating purpose.

Fuck, i'm NEVER rerolling a character. Never again shall i live without the lure.

>> No.17217622

>>17217614
You can never have too many descent potions.

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I have to say this new artifact boost system is taunting me. I've seen adventurers with skeleton keys everywhere and I think a super lure but I have nowhere near enough oracle scrolls or expensive things to trade for it. And I'm too weak to murder them at the moment.

They have a chance of popping up in the puppy cave right? If so I might just wander around in it until I hit gold. Maybe stock up on stardust since the moment I got the special shell necklace every hermit crab seems to drop it now.

>> No.17217665

Does magic resist lower damage from water bolts as well?

>> No.17217675

>>17217665
No, water is completely nonelemental. I don't think there is a way to resist it at all.

>> No.17217677

>>17217665
No, water spells don't have an elemente, like bleed. In fact they'll always oneshot metals.

>> No.17217678

>>17217665
Water bolt is pure magic damage.

>> No.17217688

>>17217675
My pets are decked out in resist gear and I've been doing dungeons of level 100-150. Haven't had a (pet) death in a long time, but then doing a panic quest my black angel got killed easily by an Abysstar. Now I'm scared. Is the only ''defense'' against water to get more life on everyone?

>> No.17217698

>>17217688
Correct.

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This is how I imagine <Siva>'s bossfight

>> No.17217733

>>17217711
>still alive in the second panel
That's not how Siva fights.

>> No.17217739

>>17217688
I've been experimenting with custom AI on a party healer (a Defender pet) and so far it doesn't seem worth it.
If you don't lock target, she heals enemies. If you do lock target, you have to pick among Self, Ally and Player - if you pick Ally, she won't heal Player, etc. So it's basically 6 commands (3 for heal, 3 for checking for MP) just to cast a heal spell.
That's not taking into account that Healing Rain has a short range so adding Move Forward may be necessary in there as well and there are just not enough AI slots for everything.
Am I missing something? Is there a way to make it work?

It seems it would so much more efficient to just scrap the healer pet and give every other guy/gal a self-heal routine that takes 2 slots max.

>> No.17217752

>>17217739
Did you accidentally quote my post? Actually come to think of it, if I had a defender my angel probably would have survived.

>> No.17217784
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17217784

Yeah, I play overdose.

I don't have as much time for vidya now as I did when I was a NEET, please don't bully

>> No.17217788

>>17217752
Yeah. Was meant as a general question to all the pet breeders out there t.t
With default AI it seems even worse.

>> No.17217790

I should really switch to custom, i miss the pet ai and that new item highlight is awesome to make sure to quickly look up for the hoardables in vendors.

Are the saves still compatible with normal elona+ ?

>> No.17217803

>>17217790
Yeah, can even go back and forth and nothing should get fucked up by it.

>> No.17217830
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17217830

>>17217784
What's that, ''please bully me more don't stop ikuuuu''? You got it

>> No.17217882
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17217882

>>17217784
What the fuck

>> No.17217942
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17217942

Good on ya

>> No.17217960

How do I get more casino chips? Just like in real life I'm again addicted to blackjack.

>> No.17217965

>>17217960
Material spots.

>> No.17217969

>>17217960
Search more resource spots.
I think you can also get them from scrolls of gain material? Get a big stack and bless them all for best results.
Also try not to spend them outside of a lucky day from a dream.

>> No.17217970

>>17217960
Go out and do a whole lot of dungeons, gathering from all the material spots. You can also buy scrolls of gain material, bless a huge stack and read them. This will also come in handy for crafting later

>> No.17218074

>>17217588
>>17217577
That's not how it actually works. At very high casting levels (around 1300) success chance goes up with increased spell level, at about 200 spell level you can cast with 100% chance before warmage/armor/etc modifiers. Thankfully casting is one of the easiest skills in the game to grind as you can spam oracle for massive gains. Don't have enough MP to spam oracle for massive gains? Then you're probably not at a point where you should be worrying about end-game wish statistics.

>> No.17218148
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17218148

I'm considering making a Ragnarok Online music pack for Elona+, particularly Elona+ Custom. Is there any available guides for me to do this? Otherwise I'll play around with it until it works. I already have multiple audio tools that I think I'll need (Audacity, FL Studio, various filetype converters).

Eventually I also want to make a Ragnarok graphics pack as well but that'll be way off into the future.

>> No.17218149

>>17217788
I had no problems with my defender pet. I simply had him check allies health and then use healing rain.
Since I kept them all on a leash the spell was in range of everyone 90% of the time.

>> No.17218173

>>17218148
There's some sample music packs you can base your packs off of, structure-wise.
One important thing to note is that the game applies the music files you list in the text file to ingame tracks IN A SPECIFIC ORDER. You can't change that order. Listing the ingame track name next to your file names is just a convenience.
There's some guides as to the order and which song plays where on the wiki I believe.

>> No.17218174

>>17218148
As far as I remember all you need to do is get mp3 files, name them something short, check the music list in the user/music folder and input their names to play instead of the appropriate default music. So let's say I have this jazzy Jap song. After putting it in the music folder I name it chingchong.mp3 and write chingchong.mp3 in front of mcJapan in the list .txt.

>> No.17218185

What are some good things to wish for early in the game?
Shift cores?
A shop?
A museum?

>> No.17218193

>>17218185
Early in the game seven league boots, secret experience of kumiromi, happy bed.

>> No.17218214

>>17218173
>>17218174

Thanks for the info. Looking over the Studio Ghibli musiclist.txt shows me the particular order the tracks need to be in, and I'll cross-reference that list with another pack as well.

>> No.17218220

>>17218214
Be careful. I ran into at least one music pack (RPG pack I believe) that accidentally listed one ingame track twice, so every entry after that was actually playing for a track different than what they had listed.

>> No.17218239

>>17218220
Odd. That's the one with old Squaresoft music right? I'm thinking that isn't compatible with newer versions of E+, so I'll disregard it and any other packs that are broken/incompatible.

>> No.17218255

>>17218239
It's missing a lot of the newer songs but it works fine for the other ones. You just get silence if a newer song should play, unless you add your own.
The problem was they had a double listing.

>> No.17218265
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17218265

What's a []?

>> No.17218268

>>17218265
nevermind it's a delivery quest not a request. it was a shabby rose

>> No.17218280

>>17217223
Why were you not stealing something lighter (like those dead trees nearby) anyway?

>> No.17218331

I don't have a ranch yet. Is it worth it to get out of Lesimas and build one before I kill the last boss?

>> No.17218332
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17218332

Can someone tell me what this is? The real Sexy Dance feat is on a different page.

>> No.17218347

>>17218332
I think it's the feat that lets you apply a gravity-based buff on your pets.

>> No.17218349

>>17218332
It's an aoe speed buff that also gives you the gravity debuff.

>> No.17218356

>>17218193
You will pile up happy beds very easily over your adventures, and seven league boots are retardedly overrated. Omega core and secret experiences are the way to go.

>> No.17218370

>>17218356
Secret experiences aren't meant for early game since you're still getting feats on levelup.

>> No.17218376

>>17218356
I'm level 47, and still only have the one I wished for at the start. Cupid of love aren't that common, unless all cupid types drop them then they only become common much later. Omega core gets you killed pretty easily. 7LB are universally better than any boots you're likely to have at the start.

>> No.17218378

>>17218356
>354 hours in
>still use a king's bed
>don't want to waste a wish for it

>> No.17218379

>>17218268
So basically all those []s are the monthly wild flowers?

>> No.17218381
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17218381

IN YOUR FACE WISH-FROM-WONDER-SCROLL-ANON! Third scroll and I get it.

>> No.17218384

>>17218379
Right. If you get an "I want it!" quest that wants a "[]", trade for their flower.

>> No.17218389

>>17218381
Now cast it lad.

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17218395

>>17214658
RIP

>> No.17218404

God, is there an easy way of finding ancient books? I've been through countless low-level dungeons and I haven't seen a single one. Three more points until I can join the Mage's Guild, damn it.

>> No.17218439

Is there a list of non-hostile NPCs that drop unique artifacts? I learned about Gwen and Orphe after reading it here. Then some anon posted about the Witch, and man that staff she dropped was sick. Feels I've been missing out so much.
Who are the other big ones I'm missing?

>> No.17218446
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17218446

>>17218395
NOOOOOOO

>> No.17218454

>>17218439
The two elves that rescue you at the start of the game have a unique dagger and bow. (Pretty easy to get from party time jobs.)

>> No.17218488
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>>17216460
Even at high levels of shop rank there is RNG involved in whether vendors stock a certain item and how much. From what I've seen a vendor can carry up to 5 wonder scrolls and up to 10 material scrolls. Not counting blessed. You won't always see them carry their max amounts though. Some may only carry 3, 2, etc and sometimes they won't carry the item you want at all. In my case my, this particular vendor in my home carried 5 wonder scrolls but no material scrolls. I'd have to wait 3 days to see if she got a new shipment of material scrolls.

Talking about magic vendors and aside from finding potions of potential, I've also have found potions of cure corruption, potions of evolution, flying scrolls, and rarely potions of descent. If you are not seeing these items in your own shops it stands that you might want to keep investing.

>>17216483
There is an RNG element to domination so you might have to try multiple times before you succeed. There are things you can do to help your chances though. Carrying the monster heart, an item gained by completing Mia's quest, helps in all domination attempts. If you're using the spell domination then higher spell levels of that helps. If you're using a rod then higher levels of magic device helps. Reduction of HP isn't required nor do I recall it helping much for me.

>> No.17218501
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17218501

I got this alias to show up when I made a new character. It's pretty tempting.

>> No.17218527
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17218527

What have I become.

>> No.17218536

>>17218527
pedo

>> No.17218559

>>17218527
Someone that can get another little sister reward from the looks of it. Good job. Just need to turn it in by going to the Cyber dome that's slowly turning into a daycare.

>> No.17218576

>>17218527
A cute gang leader

>> No.17218604

Are there any hidden perks to dual-wielding the artifact ~bringer swords? Just RP?

>> No.17218626

What's that yellow bar below HP that slowly fills up in combat?

Also, am i getting this right? To train an attribute, you got to train the skill?

>> No.17218632
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17218632

>>17218527
Is that shishou

>> No.17218644

>>17218626
That's the gauge bar. Get it to 100% and you can use <gauge release>, which is a high-powered version of a standard (melee, ranged or magic) attack.

You can train attributes by using their respective skills or by eating food (especially herbed).

>> No.17218648

>>17218626
Gauge. You spend it for "super" special actions and gauge release attacks.

>> No.17218673

>>17218644
>>17218648
I see, how do i unleash it when full? I'm reading that there's special skills you can get from stuff you have to activate, but there's probably a basic super attack?

>> No.17218682

>>17218632
That's M girl with a sprite I grabbed from somewhere. I don't know that character.

>> No.17218691

>>17218673
Press 'a' for the special skills and select <gauge release>, then attack.

>> No.17218695

>>17218691
Aha, i thought it was only for abilites (without considering that gauge release was one), thanks a lot!

>> No.17218847

>>17218632
There's a bunch of EO sprites in the elona uploader.

>> No.17218868
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17218868

whoah my first alive weapon

>> No.17218872

>>17217364
Those are good goals so I would definitely knock those out. I don't recall buying a palace until sometime in Act 2. My character Kai was living in a cave for quite some time. The reason why I chose not to upgrade my house for quite awhile is as you've noticed. If I'm buying a house for its vendors why? I have all these magic vendors in town already here waiting to be invested in so no need to for a house upgrade yet. So yeah all my gold I was getting from job board quests and selling stuff in Act 1 was going towards investing in magic vendors instead of saving up to buy a house.

>> No.17218953

Help, I play as a gunner and after using the zero point skill for sometime it's gone and I can't find it or use it.

>> No.17218963

Do living artifacts generate only above certain quality, like "Great", or "Miracle"?

>> No.17218992

>>17218953
Zero shoot is a special action you can find in the list when you press 'a' on the keyboard.

>>17218963
Miracle or Godly.

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17219001

Neato, now my ninja can be even more of a weeb.
Do living weapons still get experience if a pet holds them?

>> No.17219005

>>17219001
Yes.

>> No.17219034

Has anyone ever tried a specialized character rather than the usual get all skills, use magic combined with melee or ranged?

>> No.17219072

>>17219034
Sure, specialized wizard :^) The easiest specialized character to make. If you're going to do a specialized melee or ranged character the question you need to answer is how are you going to heal yourself? If you can answer that then you should be ok but often those people need to either pair up with magic, alchemy to make potions, or run with pets to do the healing.
Then how specialized do you want to be? The way I see it the more specialized you are in the game the greater difficulty you're adding to the game. Can it be done? Probably but expect things to take longer to do.

>> No.17219155

>>17219072
If you maxed out faith and favor you could POSSIBLY get by on prayer of Jure with great stamina as a melee or ranged solo player.

>> No.17219170

>>17219072
The best way to heal if you're not using magic is clearly to kill the enemies before you need to heal

>> No.17219200

Found a bow that says "it allows quick shoot" but I can't find what that means in the wiki. Help.

>> No.17219203

>>17219072
This is why I keep saying that magic is really the easiest route in the game.
All the scary talk about how hard it is at first is now largely irrelevant.

Unarmed is the "rough start, eventual superpower" route now.

>> No.17219208

>>17219200
it allows quick shooting - Rank 1(?)
appears only on ranged weapons, seems to allow the user to retaliate when shot.

>> No.17219222

Are your actions in act 1 just completely irrelevant and unnecessary?

>> No.17219226
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17219226

>>17218992
That's the problem, I can't find it anymore.

>> No.17219271

>>17219222
Pretty much. I think you getting the Tome of Eternal Darkness or whatever it's called has some importance in Act 3 but until then you might as well have been just crawling through regular dungeons for all the good it did. Even Zeome wasn't a threat to anything.

>> No.17219300

>>17219034
Closest I have been doing is a no "magic" run. Mainly because even with melee you need rods or potions to buff and heal yourself for those tough moments unless you grind even more than the average player.

>>17219222
During act 1 they are pretty irrelevant to the plot, seeing as you are basically a background npc doing errands while the "real" players do their thing. Which I thought was fun.
But by the end of act 1 you seem to set yourself up to be actually important for act 2.

>> No.17219323

>>17219226
Actually nevermind, pressing all on fixed it.

>> No.17219337

>>17219208
The way I observe it, it's similar to "it deals damage back to attacker", except only when the attacker uses ranged attacks.

>> No.17219340

Is there a point to leveling Mining skill once you got the wall breaking special ability?

>> No.17219368

>>17219340
I'm wondering if Houzanha has a better chance of destroying all tiles if your mining is higher, can anyone verify?

>> No.17219371

>>17219340
Houzanha levels mining, so...

Your con will grow and higher mining allows you to dig for ore/clovers even faster, which is all it does.

>> No.17219391

>>17219203
Only superpower because of some bullshit technicality that lets you attack 8 times for some reason instead of 4 like everyone else.

>> No.17219424

What does "houzahna" even mean? The skill's name in Japanese is something like mole revel / wild dance. I wonder what the translator had in mind.

>> No.17219489

>>17219391
Do the bonus attacks apply to unarmed NPCs as well?

>> No.17219495

>>17219391
Both Martial Artists and Dual Wielders can attack 8 times in one turn. Two hand users are limited to 4 attacks in one turn but they do have that extra damage multiplier from their two hand skill.

>> No.17219498

>>17219424
Houzahna might be a corruption of "hosanna", which in Hebrew means "save now" or "save us, we pray."

>> No.17219506

How do you counter those large vine-like monsters that strangle you?
I'm scared of them even when overleveling them, because it seems they can take out a chunk of my health even when similar level monsters can't even touch you.
How does that mechanic even work?

>> No.17219507

>>17219498
I would be extremely surprised if anyone outside of a Christian/Jewish upbringing had heard of that term.

>> No.17219508

>>17219507
Japan loves taking shit from the Bible if it sounds cool enough. Just look at Evangelion.

>> No.17219510

>>17219489
If given the right equipment then a pet/NPC can get multiple attacks.

>> No.17219520

>>17219424
Mole dance sounds a prefectly appropiate name for a technique based on digging everywhere.

>> No.17219523

>>17219508
>>17219520
The Japanese version makes sense, the problem is the English "translation"

>> No.17219546

>>17219391
It's not even the 8 attacks since dual wield does that. MA gets abilities like body blow and the ability to add whatever element damage they want to their fists with attribute.

>> No.17219551

>>17218378
Personally i just use a sleep sheep despite having three happy beds in my home.
I have no excuse really, i have a huge pile of superior material scrolls to change one to spirit or dawn cloth, and a ton of flying scroll, but i just like the sleep sheep.
I really need to upgrade though.

>> No.17219574

>>17219551
You can use a single inferior material scroll and just turn it into paper.
Happy bed will give you a ton more growth compared to the sheep.

>> No.17219591

Does anyone know if the Puppy Cave still drops ancient books? I haven't come across a single one for hours now.

>> No.17219593

>>17219591
Sorry. I took them all.

>> No.17219597

>>17219574
You cannot turn furniture items into low weight low quality materials.
Only high quality low weight materials are possible (probably for this exact reason)

>> No.17219601

>>17219593
You fucker. I'm going to set fire to Yowyn again if I don't find another ancient book in the next hour.

>> No.17219604
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17219604

>>17219597

>> No.17219611

>>17219604
nice photoshop bub

>> No.17219612

I'm a newfag who got their hands on m202, what in the world is this tool of total destruction?

>> No.17219616

>>17219611
It's legit.
Maybe they changed it recently. The bed and the piano also has a few flying scrolls on it.

>> No.17219617

>>17219604
Wow, this probably means Ano forgot to put a restriction on furniture when writing the new way material scrolls works.
Thanks Anon, now i REALLY have no excuse to turn everything into paper !

>> No.17219637

>>17219612
Speaking of that weapon and the panzerfaust, can it ever break like wands do when I recharge it?
If it can break I'm not wasting flying scrolls on it.

>> No.17219638

>>17219617
This is probably the case. Done goofed.

>> No.17219639

>>17219604
>paperwork BBQ set
I know this is awesome but I can't help but laugh that it shouldn't be practical to use. It will just go up in flames when you go to try to use it. This is why I love Elona though.

>> No.17219642

>>17219639
It's okay, I put a fireproof coating on it.

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17219655

>>17219593
>>17219601
JUST FOR THAT I'M GOING TO DESTROY VERNIS!
NRAAAAAAAGGHH!!!

>> No.17219666

>>17219601
>>17219655
Guys guys please stop fighting, there's enough towns to destroy for everyone.

>> No.17219701 [DELETED] 

https://discord.gg/CKJV7d3

click to make my kokoro beat again

>> No.17219705 [DELETED] 

>>17219701
>discord
Het

>> No.17219742 [DELETED] 

>>17219701
Just use Elona's chat. Barely anyone used it in the past yet a bunch of you cried when it was taken away. Now that it's back how about you people actually use it?

>> No.17219749

>>17219666
Or, all of you can just destroy derphy instead!

>> No.17219781

>>17219655
that rock throwing little smug faggot is the only reason to nuke Vernis

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>>17219591
Holy crap. After several hours of dungeon-grinding and running away from a fuck-ton of grizzly bears, I've finally found a single ancient book!

>> No.17219840
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17219840

>>17219834
><Voynich Manuscript>
Fuck this gay Earth.

>> No.17219847

>>17219840
bullying younger sisters is against the law. All your ancient books are to be confiscated under Younger Sister Protection Act

>> No.17219863
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17219863

>>17219847
>bullying younger sisters is against the law
As soon as I get the chance, I'm going to force sleep share with my younger sister and it will be all your fault.

>> No.17219870

>>17219863
Guard! Guard! Guard!

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>>17219863

>> No.17219875

>cast hero on yourself to steal larger items
Yeah, sure, so heroic

>> No.17219885

>>17219875
>the best way to train stealing is to tear out entire trees during hunting quests and pocket them

>> No.17219913
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17219913

>>17214896
>sign into your google account
>can't remember pw and google won't reset it

>> No.17219917

>start up Elona
>stare at my inventory for a minute
>quit Elona
>do something else
I want to enjoy this game, but for some reason I feel like I lose motivation every time I get to South Tyris. I really enjoy the North Tyris part, and then it feels that the game is getting too repetitive.

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>>17214620
>Too many party members
Fuck you object of heart, I love all my girls. Image has been updated to properly reflect reality.

>> No.17219954

>>17219939
whoops, that's calibri, not courier

>> No.17219955
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17219955

Designed for children.

>> No.17219972
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17219972

>>17214620
oh right we're doing this. Started pianist peaceful skeltal char. Planning to hoard all qt undead girls to form a musical ensemble

>> No.17219973

Does the negative playtime glitch keep you from getting New Years gifts?

>> No.17219985
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>>17219955
>whore opening

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>>17219955

>> No.17220002

is PV useless late-game? trying to pick the best gear to garok for my pets

>> No.17220035

>little girl drinks from fountain and gets pregnant.
>out of poison and dye and no one has any to buy
>panic and buy all the booze in town and funnel it into her wondering why she won't vomit.
>forget walking sets it off.
>she immediately vomits out the alien fetus but is stays drunk and vomits the rest of the day.

Was pretty stressful, and now I probably have an alcoholic little girl.

>> No.17220050

>>17220035
>abortion through alcoholism
nice

>> No.17220089
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17220089

I can only make the highlight work for the <Super Lure>, potion of jure and cure corruption, duel glove, sleep sheep don't work. What is happening.
Also, is that normal i need to go in the options reparse the itemlist.txt on each bootup ?
Also also, is there a way to make the highlight more eyecatching ?

>> No.17220102
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17220102

>>17219840
Just started back up after a long period of not playing Elona at all. Then before I even started actually playing again, I had to whip up a set of pictures to use for evochat. Oh well. Presenting the former little girl who I started my journey with, and has stuck with me throughout everything.

>> No.17220105

>>17220089
Ah ok, the highlight work only on item you identified at least once, works on the lure and nine god token, but not the others.
Means i still have to pay attention for the rod/book of wish, oh well.

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17220124

>>17219973
wonder if something terrible happens when the countdown reaches zero

>> No.17220130

>>17220089
Is there any way to change the highlight color?
For me it's a barely different blue than regular items and doesn't help at all.

>> No.17220266 [SPOILER] 
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Bit of a riddle: What's dumber than provoking someone vastly more powerful than you then getting killed by them and turned into a steak?
Doing it twice.

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>>17220102
I just realized after an hour that I quoted the wrong post. This was meant for this >>17214620

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>>17220266
>filename

>> No.17220444

Alright. I have learned 3 things today.
1. Just choosing to duel someone makes them permanently cross with you. Even if you don't kill them.
2. You cannot run away from a duel when you throw the glove badly and hit the number 5 npc adventurer in the game instead of your intended target.
3. Incognito and disguise kits never show up when you want them to.

Susadeth the adventurer has a pretty apt name. I had only died twice up until level 15 when I crossed her and she has appeared as I was traveling to random towns 3 times already. She somehow always showed up at the gate I entered and has murdered me each of those times before I can react. I now check the adventurer list every town and am trying to give her a wide berth. She is in a chaos fort now. Hopefully she'll die or at least give me time to find some kind of disguise.

>> No.17220448

Getting hungry but I don't have a cooking tool in my inventory. See a bunch of fire bolt rods and get this fantastic idea to just put the food on the ground and use the rods. Manage to turn my food into charcoal and end up lighting the inn on fire. Try to get some potions next door to put out the fire but then the etherwind starts to blow. I fucking mutate like crazy while trying to find the innkeeper. Can't find the guy and I assume he's dead. By this point the inn has burned down and now it's spreading. Don't have enough potions to put the fire out and just sit there mutating. It's not the monsters that people should be worried about. It's fucking adventurers.Welp time to reroll.This is what I get for not doing the cooking by the book.

>> No.17220483

>>17220448
Why reroll, I don't see a problem here.

>> No.17220497

>>17220483
Happened early enough in the game that rerolling is ok. I don't have the means to get enough cure corruption potions to cure myself of all the stuff on my character. Already used my casino chips.

>> No.17220501

>>17220448
scroll of return?

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>>17214620
I just got my house and farm set up near Yowyn, so I'm just working on my skills now.

>> No.17220706

>>17220089
You shouldn't use custom highlight to separate items in your inventory. Open item list with X, then press *. This makes it highlighted and undroppable/unsellable.

Custom highlight is for shops.

>> No.17220786
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People were discussing building the best weapon they could last thread, does this have ultimate potential or does the critical ruin it?

>> No.17220811

>>17218280
I wasn't stealing! I just wanted some trees for my house.

>> No.17221080

>>17220786
Increased crit chance isn't my favorite enhancement ever but it'll do, anon, it'll do.

>> No.17221112
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tfw one of your pets drinks from a fountain and gets a wish
you cant think of anything you need atm
so u think "hm having a nicer house would be cool"
wishes for palace (after not seeing anything on the wiki saying i cant)
gets tree of palm
.....kinda mad

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>>17214620
1st character so I'm just bumblefucking my way around.


'Heavenly Moan' still makes me giggle. This game has taught me that deep down, I have a twelve-year-old's sense of humor

>> No.17221140

>>17221112
But Anon, a tree is a palace for ants.
How could the wish goddess know you meant a palace for cute little girls ?

>> No.17221151

>>17221140
ironically another one of my pets drank from the same well n i got another wish lol
was tempted to see if "deed of palace" would work or just a "deed of small castle"
decided fuck it and went with an omega shift core :P

>> No.17221154

With this new rare drop system I'm not getting any wishes from wells at all.

>> No.17221206

>>17221154
With this new rare drop system it seems like I'm swimming in rare scrolls, assuming they are covered by the system. Might just be lucky.

>> No.17221220

>>17221154
I'm pretty sure well wishes are unrelated to the new system.

>> No.17221284

>>17221220
> Wish occurrence rate from quaffing wells has been quintupled, and is also affected by the aforementioned trigger.
They are. And according to wiki the trigger turns on 10 minutes after load, and it doesn't turn off after rare drop is generated. I don't even see anything about it turning off if you don't abuse savescum. It should be always on then and drop rates should skyrocket (which is a thing with items I guess?); with wells though it's the opposite, I was getting more wishes before the update.
>>17221206
Changelog mentions x4 flying scrolls spawn rates but that's all. I'm not sure if it includes vendors though.

>> No.17221286

>>17221284
Well, wish rate increases won't change the "fortune passing by," no?

>> No.17221292

>>17221286
Had no idea about this thing actually, never paid attention to it. Must be it.

>> No.17221344

Leaving the void aside, how much story/side content is left after finishing chapters 1 and 2? Relatively speaking.

>> No.17221382

any of you literal madmen tried playing with permadeath?

>> No.17221394

>>17221382
>anon was torn up in the sharp strings
>You die

And that was the end of that.
String traps are 2strong.

>> No.17221396

>>17221382
The resident godslayer of level ~6000 is playing on permadeath, rumor has it he is going on his final odyssey into the void to level 6666 soon or die trying

I might try an inferno run myself, but it will probably end quickly and anticlimactically

>> No.17221470
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>Buying an indulgence, which is very expensive, from the Sister in Noyel while at -30 Karma or less. (cuts negative Karma in half)
How expensive are we talking here? I've hit -100 karma pretty fast with my big daddy hunting jamboree.

>> No.17221647

>>17221470
>pixiv work:deleted
....
>pixiv profile:deleted too fucking gajin!
Fuck you too jap'.

>> No.17221873
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That scared me.

>> No.17221877

What's with all the good Elona artists leaving and deleting their work anyway?

>> No.17221907

>>17221877
They've agreed to an unholy pact to fuck with us
I'll do my part and upload all the siro_(phooey) I can confirm being an original image to sankaku

>> No.17221925
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Forgot how little hp low level bells have and that I have knockout

>> No.17221932

>>17221470
900k and I'm at -60.

>> No.17221942

>>17221907
Why not to danbooru?

>> No.17221970

I'm going to do it.
I'm going to play this game for the first time after hearing about it years ago.

I think I'll ignore all the story stuff and just make a farm and capture pets.

>> No.17222042

>>17221942
No account there.
And danbooru will scrap it automatically from sankaku anyway

>> No.17222050

>>17222042
I assume you're the same guy who asked me for a .zip of siro pictures. You still want that?

>> No.17222074

>>17222050
It's me indeed. I'll cross check with the one in my hydrus database and then upload it.

>> No.17222129

https://files.catbox.moe/pc042l.7z

Here you go. Fair warning. I only saved the pictures I personally liked back when his account was still up. There are maybe one or two pictures from other artists in there. I throw all Elona artwork in one folder so I picked them based on their style.

>> No.17222133

>>17222129
Ok, I'll keep it in mind.

>> No.17222172

>>17222129
Only two missed their metadata and half of them were new, so it's a very good haul.
Currently crosschecking with saucenao to verify the author/pixiv id and then tagging within hydrus.

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>>17222172
forgot the attachement...

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>>17222172
>>17222190
Good to know that I could help.

>> No.17222288

>>17222240
Rueken is harder to salvage because there never was metadata on his image.
Based on the fact that all your siro were correctly saved, I'd beg them too, but I'll be busy tagging the siro for a while.
To a next thread.

>> No.17222294 [DELETED] 

>>17222240
And abviously, I'm very thaksfu for your help.

>> No.17222335

>>17222172
Good work anon

>> No.17222378

>>17222294
>And obviously, I'm very thanksfull for your help.

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>>17222378
Thankful baka

>> No.17222409

>>17220002
Someone help this man

>> No.17222433
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This illustration was optimized with jpegmini.
Do you remember if you only downloaded from pixiv?
Do you remember using that jpegmini site?
It may have been a goof moment from siro, all his image have sai encoder as metadata, so I already know he only uploaded resized version of biggest raw.
Just checking to have more certitude, if you don't know, it's not a problem at all

>> No.17222440

>>17222433
Never heard of jpegmini so I must've downloaded it from pixiv.

>> No.17222457

>>17222440
Thanks, then it was him trying other way. Not "meta:potentially_resaved" material.

>>17220002
>is PV useless late-game? trying to pick the best gear to garok for my pets
Not specializing is useless late game when it come to gear. Look hard at your pet life before deciding. I'm not ~that far~ though.
Kai tier end game may be more get hit/get killed.

>> No.17222574
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>>17222433
>>17222440
Finished to add the basic metadata(pixiv profile:#, pixiv work:#, title:[...], creator:[...]), and starting the actual content tagging.
Only this one was older than >>17222433 It's likey he was experimenting with compression.

>> No.17222785

Ok. Since I have never had to deal with this before, what is the quickest way to deal with an angry over leveled npc?
I've heard just talking to them while incognito helps, but should I get engagement amulets and things to give as gifts? If I hire them while incognito will that make it so they don't attack once the effect ends?

>> No.17222804

>>17222785
You wanna get engaged to random angry person?

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>>17222785
Make him/her drunk and engage in tactical lewds.

>> No.17222853

>>17222804
>>17222811
I don't want to marry her or lewd her! I just want to stop her from trying to murder me every time I walk into town, since she is strong enough to walk up and one shot me while I'm just walking around.
Unless those actually are viable quick ways to deal with this mess. Then I suppose that would be better than living in constant fear.

>> No.17222885

>>17222785
You don't need any gifts. Just talk with him/her.

>> No.17222888

>>17222853
It's certainly the easiest way to raise your reputation with them.
Give them a beer and go to town.

>> No.17222891

>>17222853
Getting a disguise kit or incognito, getting drunk and lewding raises the relationship level and it's also cheap. Only downside is a possible STD.

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>>17222853
You have to marry her to calm her christmas cake rage, it's the only way

>> No.17223180

Is there any essential mods for C now? Or is it still all cosmetics?

>> No.17223252
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Is this wench serious?

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>> No.17223360

>>17223252
>>17223281
Is your karma negative 1000+ or is it based on your current money?

>> No.17223371

>>17223360
I think it's based on fame.

>> No.17223389
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>>17223360
It was -100 Karma, but I solved it swiftly. The solution was right next door. I forgot I still had the Pael's quest. Thanks Pael's mom <Lily>.

>> No.17223562

>>17222457
everyone will be getting rubynus gloves for the hit bonus and life
was thinking that pv is useless late game since 50 absorb from a 5,000 damage hit isn't really significant, but I don't know exact combat mechanics to know if 50 dv is at all significant either

>> No.17223581

>>17223389
I want to odonyaki <Lily> and <Pael> every day!

>> No.17223599

>>17223562
Doesn't it give both a percentage and a subtractive damage reduction?

>> No.17223651

>>17223581
You'll catch Etherdick that way.

>> No.17223671

>>17223562
>everyone will be getting rubynus gloves for the hit bonus and life
>I've been making all my equipment adamantium or dragon scale based on whatever gives more PV/DV
Fug.

>> No.17223725

>>17223671
The more life you have, the less valuable life is and the more valuable % damage reductions are. You can always get more hero cheese.
So that's not necessarily a bad decision.

>> No.17223855

Is there any difference between gunners and archers? I mean, they both use ranged weaponry and little else. Unless i'm missing something, i don't see particular strong/weak points over the other

>> No.17223870

>>17223389
What's the texture pack you're using?

>> No.17223876

>>17223855
Gunner uses guns.
Archer uses arches.

>> No.17223891

>>17223870
Something of everything. I grab things from pixiv, elona uploader and bits from here to make my "own" texture packs.

>> No.17223910

>>17223855
Gunners = more range attacks per turn
Archer = more accurate attacks in general

>> No.17223916

>>17223855
Gunners mostly key off of Perception and archers key off of Dexterity, and their weapons have different effective ranges. In addition, different types of bows and guns have different ranges at which they can be used effectively. Typically bows are best at around 2-4 range while guns are almost unanimously good at point-blank but are widely variable elsewhere depending on the type of gun you're using.

>> No.17223924

>>17223916
Except lasers which are pretty much good at all ranges.
The problem being that they're rather uncommon, so good luck getting a good one.

>> No.17223935

>>17223855
Like in RL, guns are superior. Sniper rifles, machine gun, railgun, dual-wield pistols, shotguns. Their own patron deity, even.
Now, Bows... nope.

>> No.17223938

>>17223935
bows are just for gay elfs. And we're all super straight here right?

>> No.17223940

Is there anyone who plays with Ballistae?

>> No.17223950
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>>17223935
>>17223938
Crossbow are superior in real life and in any game where they exist.
Especially when Mercedes use them.

>> No.17223956

>Decide to try a lucky character
>One step into the world, forced to pay toll to bandits
>Enter town and leave
>Second step outside town, ambushed
>Reach safety 1 dungeon
>Killed by a trap in a single step
WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.17223957

>>17223950
The pecking order goes as follows:
Magic > laser guns > bullet guns > <Nightmare> > repeater crossbows > crossbows > bows > throwing shit

>> No.17223966

>>17223957
>Magic first
Tipping my pointy wimp hat at you, good sir!

>> No.17223976

>>17223957
Panties > Magic

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>>17223956
Maybe you just have bad real-life luck?

>> No.17224087

>>17223956
Bad luck is still a kind of luck

>> No.17224146

Most resists/immunes I've seen on an item so far, off black market ~1000 points invested. Being barely able to craft a 4 resist item at 100 skill (which was painful grind, on top) this is insanely good.

I wonder how much more money I should throw at them, this is really tempting me.

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>>17224146

>> No.17224195

>First lord fight floor
>Aww yeah, music is hype
>Two steps in
>You completed the mission! Here's fame and money!
This luck is making me angry. Why are there so many random assholes here?

>> No.17224210

>>17224195
Now i see, the boss apparently spawned next to a huge neutral robot who looks dangerous

>> No.17224230

>>17224195
Hope you grabbed the loot that was dropped at your feet when he died

>> No.17224242

>>17224230
I did, and gave some to my pet which is now teleporting all over the place and i can't even catch her to take it off to uncurse it

>> No.17224244

>>17224210
That's probably a big daddy. You'll need to kill them for your loli harem

>> No.17224249

>>17224242
Go to a new map since pets spawn either right next to you or a few tiles away

>> No.17224251

>>17224242
You can't unequip cursed items even from your pet. Gotta give them several uncurse scrolls and hope they succeed, or pay the healer npc who will uncurse your whole party.

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543/2/21

Discussions about the nature of the void around bonfires is a common activity at the void base camp. One topic that keeps coming up is the guardians of the various barriers found in the void. Sir Olfuga posits that when agents of chaos, such as the ones found in chaos forts, die their souls are brought back to serve as guardians of the void. An interesting theory if true as it explains some of the souls found down there but not all. I was reminded of this today.

While mapping out floor 675 my team came upon the familiar shape of a little girl hunched over a partially eaten dead adventurer. This thing in front of me took the shape of a person I had known since I began my adventures. Back then, to put food on the table and build a body suitable for adventuring, I helped the farmers of Yowyn. A little girl named Gwen would follow me around as I worked the fields and would ask me to tell her stories about heroes and my life as and adventurer. She really enjoyed these stories and I made a promise that I would come by at least once of a month to share more stories with her. For awhile I was able to keep that promise but when I defeated Zeome, mercenary work took me to South Tyris and I had to spend 3 years there.

I had heard stories through other adventurers that Gwen became an adventurer since the last time I saw her and was making a name for herself. The pitiless they called her. When my business in South Tyris concluded I came to Yowyn to visit her but what I found was a mute woman that had lost the light in her eyes. The villagers told me she retired from adventuring and came back home. Whatever she saw out there as an adventurer broke her and now she spends her time just staring out into the sky.

The thing before me in the shape of young Gwen noticed me and came over to greet me with a knife. I quickly dispatched her and lying there with her broken body she smiled back and said, "8th time?" I just nodded. "Promise me you'll play with me again?" As she began to fade the barrier for the next floor disappeared.

What happened to you Gwen?

>> No.17224371

>>17224332
Good post and good luck on your adventure.

>> No.17224442

Should I just hand over the lost kittens to dog cop as soon as I find them? Wiki says it gives luck but so far I've only gotten +karma messages.

>> No.17224474

>>17223671
>>17223725
True, and I think something else gives higher hit bonus, maybe adamantium? I can always reroll materials later though. Really I'm hoping for Kai to chime in, I'd anyone had heuristics on optimizing effective hp it's him.

>> No.17224483

>>17224442
it gives luck potential which can only be trained by eating luck bossing equipment
tell the kittens to wait in town with the little sisters, cash them in with call familiar when you need karma

>> No.17224487

>>17224442
It trains luck potential until it gets to 300%, then it trains luck.

>> No.17224488

>>17223562
Armor pv isn't a straightforward number. I've never seen a proper explanation, but your gear provides more defense than you think it does, skill bonus aside.

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>>17224474
If anything, you can easily buff your PV massively with holy shield, DV with feather, and life by eating hero cheese.

>>17224442
It gives potential when it's less than 300%, otherwise it gives IIRC 1000 exp to luck, so you need to turn in a lot of kitties before seeing a single luck increase.

>> No.17224515

When using the Preach action, does my Faith skill determine whether I get stoned or no? Or is it still my perform skill?
Is there any point in using the perform action if my Faith is higher?

>> No.17224528

>>17224515
Faith, and it also trains the skill.
Perform lets you use instruments for a massive skill boost or the ensemble wide skill which is even bigger.

>> No.17224546

>>17224442
Just make a rabbit farm and eat rabbit tails, or farm music tickets for hero cheese. It's not remotely worth it to focus on rescuing stray cats at the moment unless you manage to stumble into one.

>> No.17224576

>>17224528
fug...
How do I train my performer? I get stoned to death anytime I get close to a piano.

>> No.17224577

>>17224546
good to have a few stashed to boost karma in a punch though

>> No.17224585

>>17224576
Just like you train other hard-to-train skills. Load up on potential, then travel.

>> No.17224587

>>17224576
get the highest tank instrument you can find and play for beggars and old people

>> No.17224589

>>17224576
You should definitely not try doing it in the pub of Vernis.
Do Party Time quests and avoid that Zanan faggot.
You could also raise your potential near 400 and then pump some level up points into it. Once you get perform to around 20 it gets easier.

Or you could just level up and raise performer later. Once you get 200-300 hp you won't get oneshot.

>> No.17224597

>>17224515
Filthy heretic. You better be preaching about the glory of capitalism

>> No.17224675

I'm starting to get used to this strange "good" luck. I might die and suffer, but every so often some mad rich guy gives me dozens of cash. I've already gotten 50k and isn't even level 5 yet

>> No.17224725
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Holy shit zombie queens are brutal. They summon zombies, then buff them with hero, speed and contingency so they would be extra hard to kill, and then lets them open a can of whoopass on my pets.

Worst of all, I still have 3 of them to go, because panic quests are like that.

>> No.17224741

>>17224474
Well my overall feelings towards PV is to just get as much as you can but not giving up resists, immunities, and other stuff that can up your damage. Kai uses static artifacts so equipment material was never something I could really change. Using a material kit does nothing on them and is a mistake to use if you've already used artifact fusion. It will remove all the stuff on it as it restores the static artifact to default. I feel my PV is sufficient so far though. My pets don't really use static artifacts so material options open up with them.

The easiest way to raise PV is through getting armor pieces made out of adamantium, blessing it, and hardening it using the blacksmith. Some pieces of armor have innate better PV values such as composite armor being better than say robes insofar as PV is concerned. After that, the raising of PV revolves around the armor skills. The problem is that the armor skills are among the hardest skills in the game to raise. Aside from spending bonus points on them, there is nothing you really can do to raise those skills since those skills auto level after a certain amount of in game time passes. So for the most part, PV will mainly be tied to what you're wearing. You can temporarily raise PV through the spell Holy Shield so leveling up that spell can help you out. Will last quite awhile too if leveled sufficiently.

PV helps mitigate damage through damage reduction but due to how hard it is to raise PV and how damage works, it's impossible to negate all damage through PV. The goal then with PV is simply to negate enough damage so that healing can keep up with HP loss. Having more HP helps a lot in shoring up what lack of PV a character may have but ideally you want both a decent PV value and a lot of HP.

As for what I'm seeing about wanting higher to hit values with Rubyness, I can somewhat understand at lower levels finding it useful. However, later on when your weapon skills are developed and your eye of mind skill is high you don't really worry about hitting. I rarely miss. Especially when crits are factored in. The soft cap for life and mana is 1000. You can go over that value but it does you no good. You won't be getting any extra HP or MP from it so that's why I stopped there on my character.

So far my character and pets are doing alright in the void. I haven't really had to turn everything my pets own to adamantium but in general I've tried to make sure their gear is at least some high tier material for PV or DV.

>> No.17224773

>>17224725
I'm guessing your team is poorly trained?
Gene engineering isn't really a substitute for that.

>> No.17224786

>>17224576
If all else fails you could go to Noyel, whenever it snows go into the shelter until you find a performer skill book to steal, then just boost your potential to max and read it in the snow until you get enough for ensemble.

>> No.17224798

>>17224773
Nah, they're trained pretty extensively from their base level. I'm just biting more than I can chew lol. Level, what, 600 monsters are most of the time beatable, but then there're things like these. Or atlases with 8k damage per crit.

>> No.17224848

IM GETTING REAL TIRED OF GIRLS DYING TO FUCKING WELLS ALL DAY LONG NOW

>> No.17224850

>>17224848
Then train them so they aren't allowed to drink from them.

>> No.17224878
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>>17214620
I actually lost about 650 hours worth of progress thanks to the click of death, and cant remember my exact stats right before. So after finally getting back into the usual groove, I managed to find one of my stat sheets buried in the archives that was somewhere around my previous save state and compared it to my current one I started from a backup.

Honestly, its really not that big a lose for just the PC alone, but to make up for everything else that's been set back I guess will take some work...

>> No.17224886

>>17224850
Shame whips cost a bloody farm

>> No.17224894
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17224894

>>17224848
I'm getting tired of stairs. These dungeons have so many building code violations it's sickening. It's like the builders of these dungeons didn't account for lamias. Is it really so hard for them to install some sort of pole with ridges so I can coil my way up or down the dungeon? Instead I need to get my pet to carry me when I see long stairs or I'll break out into tears.

t.concerned lamia

>> No.17224900

>>17224894
I'm actually sick of stairs too. I keep falling down them and it keeps happening. I've lost more hp to stairs than monsters

>> No.17224901

>>17224894
I don't see the problem.
Going downstairs is easy even without legs, and why would you want to go upstairs in a dungeon?

>> No.17224903

>>17224848
>goto graveyard
>get free wing off of ground
>equip girl with wing
>now girl cannot drown

>> No.17224906

>>17224901
To meet the upstairs ghost.

>> No.17224910

>>17224597
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for people of Sierra Terra

>> No.17224926

>>17224894
You're making me want to work on lamia sprites

>> No.17224932

>>17224901
It's regrettable but sometimes I must flee up stairs to avoid trouble and heal up. I just don't like the bumpyness of stairs against my scales. Especially when I try so hard to keep my scales smooth and moist. I've had to shed my skin more times ever since becoming an adventurer and it's very embarrassing when your pets see pieces of you scattered about. It's hard to stay hidden too.

>> No.17224987
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17224987

>>17224926
Do it for the snek.

>> No.17225015

>>17224932
You could always wear a wing or two to float down the stairs. Not sure how a snake person as yourself likes not touching the ground but it must be better than stairs.

>> No.17225033
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17225033

I see all these people running with pets and having sexual relations out of wedlock! How many of you have actually taken them as a wife and for that matter how many wives do you take?

>> No.17225039

>>17225033
I have many pets, but only one of them is my wife boy that sounds weird.

>> No.17225085
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17225085

This is my character. I should have made his hair white considering his alias.
I have a bear pet that I gave all standard human gear slot. I imagine him as Dovahbear.
I plan to get a King Snake to evolve into a Lamia because my one D&D run with Sho had a naga girlfriend.
He's a gardener polearm user with <Bow of Vinderre> for ranged. I'm still figuring things out.
He is my second character cause the first wasn't hungry enough. (Juere)
I am looking for a sprite sheet I like because my one complaint is the sprites don't seem consistant in style. Otherwise fun game. :)
(First 4chan post evah)

>> No.17225093

Does giving them an engagement ring count as getting married? I tried taking it away but my pet ate it and got angry at me. I guess I'm married and stuck with it?

>> No.17225104

>>17225093
No you aren't married. But your pets get very sentimental about sappy engagement gifts. If you just try to take it back like it meant nothing they get pissed and eat the jewellery.

>> No.17225108

>>17225093
You have to hit at least Soul Mate relationship with them and then talk to them and ask for their hand in marriage. No rings required.
Engagement rings can be given and make pets happy, but they almost always prefer to wear them over substantially better rings and hate having them taken taken away (relationship reduction.)

>> No.17225173

>>17225104
>>17225108
Thanks. That clarifies what I've been seeing then.

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17225183

>>17224332
I can't help but feel your adventure will be a bit like Made in Abyss, but with far less shota/loli guro/ryona.

>> No.17225269
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17225269

>>17214620
On my last character, I took the Kokou feat and went solo. This time around, I went with a Black Angel mount, and it seems to be working better. Eventually, someday, maybe I'll find a Super Lure, and then after I get the Wind Bow, I'll start working on getting the Lucky Dagger so I can see invisible.
I may let the Black Cat join the party; not sure. Extra enchantments are awesome and all, but I'm concerned about getting less combat EXP, and also about not being able to use Mani's killsat.

>> No.17225287

>>17225269
>so I can see invisible.
The Kaneituuhou also lets you see invisible creatures, but that's a reward from Yacatect. It's weightless too and provides a whole lot of protection from darkness (+200), but it doesn't drain stamina like the Lucky Dagger.

>> No.17225439

>>17225093
Try to lend anything to a woman for a day and then take it back.
You'll see.

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17225485

>>17223935
>>17223938
Mani better shut his fucking mouth. The bow has been killing things for far longer than that upstart's toys.

>> No.17225488

>>17225269
>but I'm concerned about getting less combat EXP
It helps if you look at combat pets as an extra source of damage that you can put exp into like any other skill.
Then realize that all exp that a pet gets is multiplied by like 10.
It's downright efficient.

>> No.17225493

>>17225485
At least Mani wasn't stupid enough to make his weapon out of fucking ether.

>> No.17225495

>>17225485
I think you could make a good argument that the gun's caught up with the bow and arrow's kill count in the couple hundred years it's been around for. You could even argue that artillery, cannons, and even missile launchers are all larger guns, which greatly increases the gun's kill count.

>> No.17225507

>>17225493
>>17225495
Do not be deceived by Mani's propaganda children! The only real god deserving of worship is Lulwy.

t.so not Lulwy

>> No.17225510

>>17225507
>Lulwy
How do you mispell Yacatect of Wealth this badly?

>> No.17225519

>>17225510
Yacatect is the One True God, everything i kill drop something.
It's like she's transforming every living thing into pinata just for me !
It kinda put a dampers on my sociability as i kill everyone i meet just in case, but truly she's the best goddess !

>> No.17225525

>>17225519
>It kinda put a dampers on my sociability as i kill everyone
Why scratch their back when you could be making greenbacks?

>> No.17225533

>>17224878
>click of death
The what now?

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17225536

>>17225510
I'm kinda partial to Ehekatl. I mean look how happy she looks piloting a plane in OPs pic! So cute.

>> No.17225566
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17225566

Reward? I don't know what you mean I guess I might see her pant...Oh...I like your style Nelford. Too bad that tyrant Lulwy forces you to cross dress as a female maid. Must be tough but I guess you're surrounded by these beautiful angels at least.

>> No.17225638
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17225638

Hey guys. It's me Lomias the main character of the game. Remember that I saved your life and anytime you see an Elea such as myself you should donate large amounts of gold to me.

>> No.17225649

>>17225638
You did jack! Larniere saved me, you just tried to feed me a dead beggar.

>> No.17225652

>>17225638
Thanks for the bow.

>> No.17225690
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17225690

Go away Lomias

>> No.17225830

I think my stealth may be too high. Is there a way to get all the enemies on a map to notice me and walk to me?

>> No.17225838

>>17225830
blow a whistle. That should get everyones attention

>> No.17226033

>>17225638
I thought I nuked you.. er.. I mean someone left a nuke in the cave..

>> No.17226114

>>17226033
Take your name off and stop being a faggot.

>> No.17226129

>>17225830
Use the stone of awakening, that should solve it.





:)

>> No.17226352
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17226352

Seems to be working somehow, finally.

>> No.17226742
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17226742

>walkin around vernis
>mopey dude by the graveyard gets assassinated by the random event
>sweet, ill go loot his stuff
>huh? what's this sword...?
>sweatyguy.jpeg

I'm sure this is old hat to the rest of the players in this thread, but it was funny to me. Why does the game have this shit like this in the fucking starting town of all places

>> No.17226766
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17226766

>>17226742
The game wants you to use it, go on use it nothing bad will happen I promise

>> No.17226789

What exactly do I get wage for?

>> No.17226804

>>17226789
House/museum/shop/dungeon/arena/guild rank

As for why I have no idea, maybe it's some sort of premium for being a productive member of society (even though your taxes keep going up)

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17226809

I put back killing this thing because I wanted to be able to do it solo, but I really want to spend my AP for more speed.

>> No.17226812

>>17226789
Should be in your journal. You're getting paid for cleaning out monsters out of dungeons. You get a rank for that and the higher your rank the more you're paid. If you're part of any guild you get paid based on your rank for services rendered to the guild. If you own any property such as a museum you get paid for it as the public is using it. Are you a ranked arena person? You get paid for participating in the blood sports for people's entertainment. Lots of reasons why someone gets a wage.

>> No.17226817
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17226817

>>17226809
Congraturation

>> No.17226819

>>17226812
But why do you get paid for having a bigger, prettier house?

>> No.17226841

>>17226819
They incentivize you to own a bigger home because you'll pay higher taxes through labor, maintenance, and other fees. You may think that check for a bigger house is good until you realize the government takes back a bit of that money. Fools most people and as long as everyone is keeping up with the Ibukis in upgrading their houses and raising property taxes then the nobles can keep throwing their wild parties. But to be fair, those etherwind shelters don't pay for themselves so you as a responsible citizen help pay taxes to support these facilities as well as support other public buildings and facilities.

>> No.17226843

>>17226819
It's not that you're paid, it's that it's a tax loophole.
The better the house, the richer you appear to the government.
Rich people pay less taxes.

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>>17226841
>>17226843
Are you part of the secret Palmian oligarchy?!

>> No.17226874

My taxes are too high! Where do I go to lower them?

>> No.17226878

>>17226874
Right here sir, just follow me into this abandoned cave

>> No.17226881
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17226881

>>17226874
Increase Karma, reduce fame, get rich or die trying.

>> No.17226884

The taxes are not too high and you should continue paying them since my pension fund as an embassy worker needs more gold in it. I want to retire early so I can live my dream of snorting a line of crim on Shena's ass.

>> No.17226886

>>17226874
Don't pay them. Taxation is theft. Grow a private younger sister army and take over tyrannical cities

>> No.17226910

>>17226856
I will fight the oligarchy by investing in the new bronze coins!

>> No.17226923
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17226923

I guess the "3 years have passed" message after Meshera wasn't just flavor text.

>> No.17226926

>>17226881
So thats what Jure and her pet do with all my ores

>> No.17226947

Yacatect, goddess of wealth, is not the symbol depicted on coins such as the platinum and bronze. Instead the symbol of Ehekatl, a cat, is depicted on them. What does the Yacatect faithful have to say about this?

>> No.17226953

>>17226947
Ehekatl isn't even a cat, she's larping one

>> No.17226965

>>17226926
Some questions are better left unanswered. Like where do the little sisters disappear after you hand them over.
Or where do Kumiromi and Ehekatl bathe, considering the gifts you give them.

>> No.17226966

Pretty sure the gold coin has the king. No idea what the platinum symbol is. Small medal does have the cat though.

>> No.17227006

>>17226953
If not a cat what is Ehekatl's symbol?

>> No.17227026

>>17227006
I misread your post as Ehekatl being a cat. Her symbol would be a cat of course, but it should be known she probably used to be a normal person (?) who went insane and started meowing and shit

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>>17226804
>being a productive member of society
Yes, running around casting "summon monsters" and "fire wall" all over Yowyn because of frustration due to a lack of ancient books is productive.

>> No.17227073

>>17226874
Move your house to South Tyris. You don't have to pay taxes.

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17227082

>>17227069
Ay want some of mine? I was just about to throw them all into the garbage

>> No.17227086

>>17227082
I finally found three more Voynich Manuscripts after hours of searching and finding countless spellbooks that look like ancient books.

Apparently, low-level dungeons have a 0% chance of dropping ancient books.

>> No.17227096

>>17227086
Just forget about them for a while, train your character and pets and do the quests you haven't yet, then when you've got a number of artifacts and decent resists start doing
mid level dungeons. I assume higher level means more types of books that can appear which in turn means a higher chance of finding any.

>> No.17227098

>>17227073
Citizens of Tyris. The embassy wants to remind you that tax evasion is a crime. No matter where you go we will find you, tax you, and if you refuse to pay we will brand you as a criminal.

>> No.17227099

>>17227069
It's nothing compared to buying hundreds (thousands?) of human slaves and using them to train gene engineering that I'm sure most players do. Dr. Mengele would be proud.

>> No.17227103

>>17227096
It's weird. I found several older sister books, a young lady book, a book of resurrection, and yet it took me so fucking long to find a single ancient book.

>> No.17227143

>>17227098
Taxation is immoral! i'll nuke Palmia now to prove my point. Eyth Akbar

>> No.17227218

>>17226874
Murder Gwen.
Over and over and over.
Until she drops the "nice guy" feat item.

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17227244

>>17227218

>> No.17227247

>>17226965
Ehekatl have her black cats lick her clean.
Kumiromi have domain over filth and dirt and so it simply leaves him clean out of respect and fear and overwhelming fear.

>> No.17227345

>>17227247
>tfw you'll never lick Ehekatl clean with your tongue
why even live

>> No.17227367

I'm having a hard time finding fire- and acidproof liquids on vendors. Investion doesn't seem to be helping, too. Is there a more reliable way to get them?

>> No.17227571

>>17227367
Rummage through low-level dungeons for them?

>> No.17227573

I was thinking of making a twohands pet, and trying to see a good living weapon to prop up, but !
Isn't the <Blood Rod> the best weapon for twohands ?
The special mana attack add at most 200 base damage, before multiplier !
That's inner god-tier weapon, no ?

The captcha is really slow in it's disappearing form, what the fuck is up with that.

>> No.17227583

Is there a way to separate how the little girls looks like? I'm getting confused when trying to give a spesific one some equipment and end up randomly clicking for hours just to find the right one

>> No.17227585

>>17225033
I have only ever slept with my little girl/vakyrie wife

>> No.17227598

>>17227573
>The captcha is really slow in it's disappearing form, what the fuck is up with that.
I force the no-javascript fallback captcha for a reason.

>> No.17227602
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17227602

How should I evolve a living weapon (lightsaber) to make it useful?

I've made a bunch of lightsaber during my first lucky day and got this, but I worry about wrecking it.

>> No.17227603

>>17227583
You can change the sprites or give custom animated pcc sprites to any of your pets https://pastebin.com/uAVqeTbz

>> No.17227620

>>17227603
Thanks. Hoped it could be done without having to add stuff since you can enter the appearance screen. But this is easy too

>> No.17227621

>>17226809
cute exile

>> No.17227628

>>17219546
MA gets only half as much of the damage multiplier from skill levels as weapon skills, though.

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>>17227621
That's actually the evolved Permanent Exile, but I like her pre-evolution look more.

>> No.17227677

>>17227345
>Ehekatl will never lick your dick clean
New Elona life goal.

>> No.17227688
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>>17227345
She's into cute boys anyway.

>> No.17227693

You should remember the existence of dollar cat.

>> No.17227739

>>17227663
Your the guy who posted the siro pack, and this image?
>>17222240
If so I trust that this rueken pic is an original and not the two candidate I had found on warosu. (based on their differing md5)
You're quite useful to have around...

I'll take a bit longer than expected to tag it fully and upload it on sanka, so I'll give back a mega link here in the meanwhile I think.

>> No.17227773

>>17227739
>Your the guy who posted the siro pack, and this image?
Correct. Though my Rueken pictures are a bit of a mess. Give a call if you want a .zip of them.

>> No.17227804

>>17227026
In that lore website that apparently came from NOA , I believe it says that she was the demi god daughter of a cat god that was shunned for some reason.
She fell in love with a disguised kuromi,nearly killed herself saving the "farmers" favorite tree, then he revealed himself, they went to god land, and she eventually took the role of goddess of luck.

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>> No.17227842

>>17227773
I'd take anything elona you have that may have been deleted, but I'd dislike becoming a annoying burden on you.
Although I must also be weary of not overburdening myself with too many tagging work, tagging and upping will take a while.
Here's my 63 siro's pic, the one confirmed for being original.
They were downloaded from pixiv through hydrus network and pixiv util plus your images and a few handpicked ones.
https://mega.nz/#!XoFyzCCD!LU-d0IweEM6pwL6dBPgbw76PTNadSmuZnV1b8xbAUME
- I'm 1/3rd done with them on my local booru, once satisfied I'll upload them.
- a little more than half are elona related, some have no known source anymore, being older than saucenao.

>> No.17227859

>>17227830
I wonder if farmers in Irva are mostly ex-adventurers.

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17227871

>>17227830
It's alright, got enough milk to fix broken bones

>> No.17227899

>>17227859
I think it's mainly slave based farming economy

>> No.17227926 [DELETED] 

>>17225533
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iWR34wKBNS0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The HDD gave its final last spin.

>> No.17227934
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17227934

CNPC, What are they, how to make them, how game wrecking are they?
Do you have any you've made?
Are they random encouter like the winged snail, or more like special ennemy with specific condition to spawn?
///I wanted to post this picture, sorry, pixiv is eating my soul///

>> No.17227986

>>17225533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWR34wKBNS0

The HDD gave its final last spin.

>> No.17228003

How do i use stuff like leash and stetoscopes? I did it once but it was a while ago and i've completely forgotten controls

>> No.17228036

>>17228003
You put it on you little girls neck. Make sure it's not too tight but also not too loose. they'll resist at first but over time little girl will follow you easier if you take her for a walk more often. Make sure you punish the more rebellious ones with spanking.

just use command "Use", you baka. key "t" by default

>> No.17228037

>>17228003
Go to the "use" menu with 't', select tool, then choose direction.

>> No.17228042

>>17228003
't' then use it on the pet on an adjacent tile to you.

>> No.17228046

>>17228042
>>17228037
Yeah, i just remembered you could see actions from the X menu. Thanks anyway for the help!

>> No.17228081
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17228081

>>17227986
My condolences.
May this humble flower dull your pain.

>>17228003
"T"

>> No.17228120

>>17227628
Duel-wielding time stop attribute-maxed weapons (add maxed *extra attacks per round* modifier if you're greedy) can give how many attacks per turn? I don't think martial arts can compete.
It's MA damage that outscales anything else at some point. How far that point is (700? 1000? 1500? of skill) you need to ask Kai probably.

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17228137

I-It was alright

>> No.17228221

Fuck. Is there a way to see if someone is pregnant? One of my minions drank from a well and now i suspect both my companions are pregnant.

How common is poisons in puppy cave?

>> No.17228246

>>17228221
It's in the feats page as "[ETC] you are pregnant". Press x to switch between companions.

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>>17228221
>NTR'd by ayyliens
ha, better equip chasity devices on you're waifus next time

>> No.17228307

>>17228221
If you can't find poison at you local magic shop go buy booze.
Get them drunk enough and they will vomit the alien fetuses out after taking a couple of steps.

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17228313

Five down, three to go. I hope you're ready Yacatect, cause I've got 342 rings and necklaces for you stored.

>> No.17228324

>>17228307
Thanks mate. I thought up a plan to curse some food, but that didn't work. Forgot about the booze and the day is saved thanks to you. Good thing i hoard shit

Though the children was weak anyway and not actually a threat.

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>>17227082
you are like little baby, watch this

>> No.17228405

>>17228389
>26 little sister's diary
do want

>> No.17228454

>>17228120
Sounds like a job for wizard mode.

>> No.17228485

>>17228405
I can't sell the books so they just pile up

>> No.17228489

>>17228485
You may need that many if you want a fox brother.

>> No.17228491

I dont play elona about year, but cant know what to do with old save with 150 lvl elea kumiromi wiz. How to get back the fun with it?

>> No.17228499

>>17228489
I don't want any men in my harem

>> No.17228501

>>17228221
Make your waifu and pets drink dye. All of them. You might want to drink dye too to ensure YOU'RE not pregnant, you horny little cheating hussy.

>> No.17228507

>>17228491
Make a gene and start over with some sort of goal in mind?

>> No.17228529

When buying deeds, you can place them anywhere, right? Your cave don't upgrade meaning it's stuck there?

Also, does items you have stored disappear when getting a new home?

>> No.17228547

>>17228529
Your cave is just your home before upgrading, you can even move it with a deed of removal deed.
If you upgrade it, all of your items are gathered in a single spot.

>> No.17228551

>>17228529
Deed of removal can be used to relocate your house, I believe.
Everything else can only be demolished.

>> No.17228556

>>17228547
Ah, so if i buy a shack, my cave gets upgraded to a shack but stays there. But i'll need removal deed to actually move it?

>> No.17228564

>>17228556
No. It gets moved to wherever you used the upgrade deed.
Removal deeds are for when you want to move but not change house styles.

>> No.17228570

>>17228564
>>17228551
Thanks!

>> No.17228573

>>17228556
No, if you buy a shack your cave is transformed into a shack and moves to the spot you read the deed on.
Also, if you use the removal deed your home will move to the spot without upgrading and all your items will stay where they were in your home.

>> No.17228692

What's the symbols on the bottom screen? I know they're stats and DV/PV, but what is that foot/glove thing? Speed? I have 102 speed, but it says 75 in green so i'm not sure. Might be because i'm perpetually burdened though

>> No.17228720

>>17228692
the pair of boots is speed
at burden! you lose i think 25%, another 25% at overweight
need sleep I think also reduces speed

>> No.17228729

>>17228720
Thanks. I figured it was speed. But didn't know the exact penality for burdened

>> No.17228731

>>17228692
From left to right:
Strength, Constitution, Dexterity, Perfection, Learning, Will, Magic, Charisma. While you may have 102 speed, your current, actual speed is the number in green. You may be burdened, which will lower your speed but train weight lifting if you have it.

>> No.17228818

>>17228731
Yeah thanks, as said, i guessed it was and now i know the penality for weight.

While we're at it, what' the difference between light and medium armor/weight? I know spell success lowers as your armour class weight goes up, but will say, a gunner notice anything different between them?

>> No.17229059

God damn gunner is fun as fuck compared to warrior.

>> No.17229111

Just got the kaneda bike. Haven't bothered with riding thus far. Is it worth it to start at this point? My regular speed is 135. Still at North Tyris.

Are there any custom sprites so it actually shows my character riding the bike around?

>> No.17229248

How high to I have to have my pickpocket to steal stuff like coffins in Lumiest reliably (provided I surround myself by magically made walls)?

>> No.17229265

>>17229111
Riding is absolute trash in Elona+ unless
1) you use it for travel only
2) you take a low speed INIT mount and put a lot of work into it
3) You use it early enough that AP doesn't matter
Reason being that high speed INIT mounts nerf your AP gain. By the time you got enough AP for it to outpace a mount's handicap, you don't need that mount anymore.

>> No.17229369

Is it possible to mount a pet and tag team with another pet at the same time? If so, how would AP distribution work?

>> No.17229379

Help. My pets gained so many levels I can't engineer stuff onto them anymore. They're both 10+ levels over me. Why do pets seem to train so much faster than me now. Even my starting little girl vastly outclasses me now.

>> No.17229389

>>17229379
Because they pick up a bunch of money and gems off the ground, sell it, and train their potential whenever you're in town?

>> No.17229406
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I know this has been all said before, but I love this game.
It has so many mechanics and features that just seem to work together, somehow makes grinding for ages fun, and gives you so many more options to try and rp different characters than most video games I've played.

It's not perfect by any means, but it's still great.

>> No.17229409
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17229409

Wow someone dropped evolution heart for my masterful performance

>> No.17229420

>>17229379
On top of this
>>17229389
Pets just gain more experience for everything they do. So basically for every 1 exp you get doing something they get 10 or more.

>> No.17229424

>>17229379
Your pets gain xp as fast as you would if you played on overdose mode, which is 20 times.

I was wondering if that means pets earn 20 times the base overdose exp gain, or if it only effects you. But not too many people, if any play overdose in these threads, and I'm too lazy to check.

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>>17229406
same

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17229605

Drank a pot potion to get all to superb, then drank another just in case. Ate a herbed curaria, no stat increase whatsoever. WTF is this shit.

>> No.17229620

>>17229605
It gives you exp towards leveling a stat. If you have enough then the stat levels up. If you don't you need to get more stat exp either through eating more or leveling skills. It was never guaranteed stat level.

>> No.17229781

>>17229620
Does the xp requirement go up as the attribute increases (e.g. more xp to get STR from 200 to 201 than from 100 to 101)?

>> No.17229792

>>17229059
I made a gunner-mage kind of thing but just holding F is somehow fun as fuck.

>> No.17229803

>>17229781
Yes

>> No.17229837

>>17229792
I'd find doing that more fun if I didn't have to wait ten turns for a single bullet to hit something once.

>> No.17229968

>>17229837
Are you firing from a shitty range for your weapon?
Did you remember to take your weapon to the blacksmith to get some + on it?

>> No.17229976

>>17229968
>Did you remember to take your weapon to the blacksmith to get some + on it?
What does hardening weapons and armor even do? I know that if they degrade to -20, they break I think.

>> No.17229996

>>17229976
-20 breaking is only for that one masochistic hard mode.
Improving weapons gives +1 to accuracy and damage for each +
Improving armor gives +2 to PV and DV for each +
This is not the same as what repair kits do.

>> No.17230069

>>17227934
They're randomly encountered, but can spawn more than once. I made a level 1 CNPC with all the good flags like lay on hands, metal, etc and made it my pet.

>> No.17230432
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>> No.17230439
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17230439

Shame the actual weapon is garbage.
Still a cool name.

>> No.17230456

>>17230432
Why are you collecting fecal matter of little girls? Pervert scum, enemy of all little girls

>> No.17230536

>Literally 3 months into game
>Not a single faggot selling whips, making my pets die to wells
I found and saw millions of leashes and stets, but not a single fuck got a whip.

Meanwhile on my first experiment char could buy one in every city to a cost far beyond him

>> No.17230541

>>17230536
There's these things called "wings."

>> No.17230547

>>17230541
Oh, those things that cost at least 15k at? Yeah, great plan for new adventurers!

>> No.17230554

Can you cheese-murder stronger adventurers in towns? I want this guys stuff and I'm not below the cowardly backstabbing tactics.

>> No.17230558

>>17230547
It's really not hard to afford a paper wing or two.
If you can't at three months in you have greater problems than not finding whips.

>> No.17230562

>>17230547
Dude. I got a wing in vernis for 900 the first in game month. Most expensive I have seen was 5000

>> No.17230572

>>17230562
>>17230558
Shut up, i'm trying to be a disgruntled player who never is wrong here! I have read your posts and see that you might be right, but i'll still pretend to be right to feel better!

>> No.17230578

>>17230572
Seriously though, wings are much better than whips, since they'll keep pets from getting blown up randomly by traps and you can still let them drink from wells for wish chances.

>> No.17230579

>>17228818
casting penalty
Medium Armor weight - 8%
Heavy Armor weight -18%
Dual Wield -6%
Shield -5%
popular technique for gunners is to use use rods to cast spells to allow them to equip a shield and medium/heavy armor. casting is still important though for getting buffs up, but you cast those before going down the stairs and you can use potions of speed and resistance to keep the two most important ones up without risking a fail cast.

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17230591

>>17230572
You're so cute when you're flustered, anon-kun~

>> No.17230617

>>17230554
There's always the nuclear option ;)

>> No.17230624

What is everyone's favorite race to play?
Doesn't have to be the main races, could be the debug races.
Despite everyone seeming to put them down I like Juere. Decent starter stats, more materials, and the less hunger thing has never hurt me though that might be because I have never been hyper efficient as far as herbs.

>> No.17230631

>>17228818
Oh and with high enough casting and spell leveling it is possible to have a 100% success rate with a shield equipped, but not with medium armor weight and 1 handed.

>> No.17230639

>>17230617
bought the nuke but faggot ran away, oh well, will be for the next time.

>> No.17230660

Two cure of corruption dropped one after the other on a 100 yen machine, what luck.

>> No.17230680

>>17230660

what a luck*

>> No.17230685

>>17230660
good for you, more stuff to force feed that bitch Paels mom

>> No.17230713

>>17230685
Pael-chan is not a bitch, she's just a horrifically mutated monster!

>> No.17230724

>>17230713
Pael-chan's mom*
fug

>> No.17230738

>>17230713
i've read somewhere that she was originally a monster and ether disease made her look human.

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>>17230685
>>17230680
Please go easy on me, I'm just a level 18 beginner.
On another note, this weapon is amazing to be able to gain new stats each time it levels up.
Anything else I should do as I'm playing as a thief?

>> No.17230746

>>17230738
I read it too. Pure headcanon.

>> No.17230808
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17230808

>>17230456

Whatever do you mean.

>> No.17230812

>>17230745
Anything you want really. If you want to rp thief join thieves guild and pickpocket stuff from everyone

>> No.17230817

>>17230808
Guard! Guard! Guard!

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17230842

>>17230554
If you're on act 1, just spam Summon Monsters near <He Who Dwells in the Vanity>. Totally a good idea.

On an unrelated note, Vernis resets after a while, right?

>> No.17230847

>>17230842
>those younger sisters
is this heaven or hell?

>> No.17230852

>>17230847
>younger sisters
You're seeing things anon. There's just dragons, a couple giants, and an asura.

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17230863

>>17230852
b-but they look l-like them

>> No.17230868

>You begin to feel good when being hit hard.
This sounds more like training masochism than constitution

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17230870

>>17230863
Do you see any younger sisters in this image, anon?

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17230877

>>17230870
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!!

>> No.17230892

>>17230877
You're so younger sister-obsessed I bet you see younger sisters in images where there can't possibly be anyone showing.

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>>17230892
Can't really deny that, they're just so cute.

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>>17227573
I've seen the Pile Driver do more damage than the Blood Rod. Think the Pile Driver is the best two hand weapon for damage if you don't count inner god weapons.

>>17228120
Since Kai already has 2000 tactics and a little bit more than 2000 strength I thought I might give dual wield a whirl in trying to forecast damage potential. I used the Rankis for timestop and equipped the best living lightsaber I had on me.

I sandbagged a minotaur mage down in the void for damage practice. I tried to think of any unique buffs a dual wielder can get but couldn't think of any however martial arts does have 2 unique buffs that help it out which are attribute and clear mind. I color coded each attack performed in one turn. For instance the dual wield attacks in picture 3 are color coded and the numbers highlighted in orange captures the stab attack of the Rankis and the nether damage it does. Total amount of damage for dual wielding was 307,303. Total amount of damage for martial arts in picture 4 was 2,723,663. So dual wielding is short by 2,416,360 for its 8 attacks.

Now lets assume dual wield gets time stop off. I can get 6 actions in one time stop. Lets assume I get very lucky and for all 6 actions I get 8 attacks each for a total of 48 attacks while time stop is active. Now that would flood my log and make it impossible to track damage but lets assume that the 8 attacks in my picture is extended out 7 times then to account for time stop. So 307,303 times 7 = 2,151,121 dmg. Definitely closer to MA's damage but not there yet. Dual wield is 265,239 damage short. So what would need to happen to exceed MA damage in this instance is for dual wield to trigger 2 time stops in one turn and within those timestops a great majority of your actions needs to trigger 8 attacks back to back. A very tough feat to accomplish but if you can pull off a miracle and get the stars to align it may be possible.

So to conclude, it seems like MA would consistently beat out dual wield in damage but it is possible for dual wield to beat out MA once in awhile if one were to get extremely lucky with time stops and consistently did 8 attacks each action within those timestops. At least with this setup. Perhaps the gap would be smaller with better equipment but I wouldn't suggest using inner god weapons. Don't have time stop and MA already beats them on dice. Can't artifact fusion inner god weapons either.

>> No.17231118

>>17231061
Sorry it was some lizard I sandbagged for the initial test. The minotaur was when I was testing out inner god weapons. That lizard had really good evasion and near capped armor skills.

>> No.17231170
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17231170

>>17230817

Go ahead call the guards, they can't unmilk them.

>> No.17231209
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>>17231170
kill the PERV!
How do younger sisters even make milk, they look flat as a board

>> No.17231227

>>17231061
Very insightful information. I really underestimated the power of MA.

>> No.17231543

>>17230547

There's a pair of free wings in the graveyard by Lumiest if you need them.

>> No.17231566

>>17230746
Would explain it a lot better though, seeing as she's pretty much the only other entity in the game 'effected by ether disease.'

>> No.17231575

>>17230842
>>17230870
Kek, while I may not use this mod it does make me smile/I'm interested in seeing how they add younger sister heads to everything..

>> No.17231581

>>17230842
For future reference, Vernis does reset, but all the monsters spawned by Vanity stay.

>> No.17231643
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17231643

I thought I'd become an adventurer but I ended up a cook. I guess it's better than last time. I started out as a pianist and ended up a bloody mess is some bar.

>> No.17231778

>>17230624
for RP purposes a Byronic Yerles who rejects the decadent nihilistic materialism of his homeland
t. former /pol/ user, RIP best source of news ever
for gameplay purposes probably lich or Euldurna for the sweet sweet magic resistance

>> No.17231788

>>17230745
any magical resistances that pop up are good picks

>> No.17231802

>>17230624
Golem. Dim is the absolute worst status and I'm more than willing to deal with garbage speed in the early game to get around it.
I know I could just stack sound resistance all day long, but even that doesn't work all the time.

>> No.17231832

>>17231802
I always forget how miserable Dim is until I play a character vulnerable to it.

Is it true that there is an artifact infusion immunity for Dim? I'd love it so I can convince myself to play another race for a change.

>> No.17231850

>>17231832
>Is it true that there is an artifact infusion immunity for Dim?
No, only sound resist.
Maybe prayer of Jure cures dim.

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17231855

>>17231170
No, but we sure as hell know how to cream you
t. City Watch

>> No.17231878

How much resistance is ENOUGH to have?

>> No.17231893

>>17231878
You will always need more than you have.

>> No.17232044

>>17230624
Fairy, usually a sniper because I find the image of a tiny fairy sniper amusing

>> No.17232109

so is chat working or no? I heard it was going down again

>> No.17232207

>>17232109

Why not type something in chat and find out? It has been dead for a while now though.

>> No.17232254

>>17232109
>>17232207
Chat works but you need to fiddle with a config file to point it at the new server.

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I think I'm ready for a third party member and want (you) to help me decide which of these little girls should I gently caress next. Current party is composed of the little girl using the holy rance and cooking my meals and a defender that I'm considering turning into a girl if I ever manage to craft the forbidden meat that uses a drake rod and a shield. I'm in the market for something ranged.

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