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1714695 No.1714695 [Reply] [Original]

So do people who sell stuff at Comiket actually make money? Or is it mainly just a hobby to be making doujin stuff?

>> No.1714724

ZUN makes booze money.

>> No.1714725

why is knife?

>> No.1714726

Hobby. The money they make covers their costs of producing and the rest will go towards the printing expenses for the next release.

>> No.1714730

>Or is it mainly just a hobby to be making doujin stuff?
Unless a circle is big and successful enough, they usually lose money rather than making. Also most people sell a limited number of copies.

>> No.1714734

I suppose the really popular ones must make some profit.

>> No.1714736

>>1714695
Mostly hobby, from what I hear it barely covers the expenses of making the stuff for most of them if they're lucky.

>> No.1714737

for a second I thought that was the comatose girl from kiminozo

>> No.1714752

Hobby. If you make some money off of it, hooray. I think most people just break even, though.

>> No.1714788

I'm sure the CG yaoi doujin producing circles rakes in the cash.

>> No.1714795

http://zepy.momotato.com/2008/11/27/doujin-work/#more-2629

I'd be surprised if anybody makes a profit out of all that.

>> No.1714797

>>1714737
Fuck you. Haruka > *

>> No.1714823

Just on China's poster alone, I would totally check out her doujin.

>> No.1714827

It depends on each creator.
Over 99% of them can't even cover the costs of making their doujin things.
Some people can earn lots of money.

And a few people, like Ryuukishi07, live by the profits of their doujin things.
For them, doujin is one of business styles. If everyone gets their works illegally, they can't live.

>> No.1716025

Nope. It's all a hobby; by fans for fans, etc.

>> No.1716036

It SHOULD be just a hobby.

>> No.1716041
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>>1714797

>> No.1716042

See: Doujin Work.

>> No.1716050

Which reminds me, I haven't seen that China tripfag in a while.

>> No.1716051

>>1714827
Are you Japanese?

>> No.1716056

If they do make money by using copyrighted characters, how do they avoid being sued? Do they just run like the owner of 2channel?

>> No.1716063

>>1716051
He's probably Korean.

>> No.1716061

>>1716056
No one cares enough to sue some poor doujin guy.

>> No.1716064

>>1714797
oh i see you go for the slut

>> No.1716070

>>1716061
I doubt that.

>> No.1716071

>>1716056

Because almost all the successful creative people who own the content started as doujin artists to begin with.

>> No.1716137

>>1716064
how is the comatose girl the slut, and not the one that goes out to fuck a complete stranger just because she's feeling bad about herself

>> No.1716194
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1716194

>>1716064
Haruka = superior

>> No.1716708

>>1716137
...that's the one i'm talking about

>> No.1716736

Haruka = Retard
Mitsuki = Slut
Akane = Love

>> No.1717706

>>1716194
That's pretty hot.

>> No.1717734

>>1714725
Sakuya dislikes China's hobby.

>> No.1717747

>>1716736
This

>> No.1717756

>>1716056

Jap companies don't sue. They don't even C&D. They don't care.

Going after doujin artists would buy the rage of thousands of potential costumers so they turn a blind eye on them. Specially because doujin artists aren't exactly pirating anything or damaging the income of the original work they parody.

DO NOT STEAL is an american thing.

>> No.1717757

>>1716736
>Haruka = Retard
WRONG, motherfucker

>Mitsuki = Slut
Correct

>Akane = Love
Correct

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1718967

The devils proof! You can't prove they don't make money, therefore they do!

>> No.1718977

>>1717756
There have been several cases. The moyashimon screensaver, for example. And others whose details are much more fuzzy in my mind.

>> No.1718986

>>1714695
sauce?

>> No.1719009

>>1716056
doujinshi is usually a way of seeing how popular a series is

>> No.1719019

>>1718977
There's also plenty of cases of major companies like Nintendo and Capcom(?) complaining about doujins. But in general, at least the part of he industry that thrives on otaku, moe, and/or come from the doujin scene themselves overwhelmingly turn a blind eye or even promote doujin artists (like TYPE-MOON got Kalmia, prolific FSN doujin artist, to draw Kaleid Liner Prisma Ilya).

>> No.1719032

>>1718977

I was being overly generalizing. There are cases here and there but it's nowhere near as crazy as the US. People there sue over anything.

>> No.1719077

>>1714827
>And a few people, like Ryuukishi07
Do we know anything about him?

>> No.1719080

>>1719077
More than average, I'd say.

>> No.1719100

>>1719077
watch this if you can:
[Doremi].​NHK.​Akihabara.​A.​Story.​at.​the.​End.​of.​the.​Year.​[2005][09E848
22].​mkv

>> No.1719098

The economics are just the same as the high school kid from Arkansas that wakes up every day at 5 in the morning to dream of being drafted to the NFL.

99.9% won't make it, but they have some fun along the way. The remainder make it big.

>> No.1719103

>>1719100
What exactly is it? And may I have a link?

>> No.1719120

>>1719103
"NHK documentary on Akihabara on 12/11/2005. Features an interview with the creator of the Higurashi games. #doremi@irc.rizon.net"

>> No.1719142

>>1719077
When Higurashi started to be adopted to other media, he resigned a public officer, and became a professional writer.

>> No.1719184

>>1719120
But that documentary was incorrect.
Staff of that wanted 07th Expansion to show as a "family owned" circle, so they emphasized Ryuukishi07's parents and cut the film which had an other staff who wasn't a relative of him.

>> No.1719215

>>1719100
Torrent page is down and can't find it at #doremi.

>> No.1719228

I can't believe most of them lose money, because there's a lot of these things - not just comiket. Most of them must at least break even or they wouldn't be able to do it, for the love of it or not.

>> No.1719248

>>1719228
People buy figures, modify their cars etc. I don't think wasting money is something you think when it comes to hobbies.

>> No.1719247

>>1719228
There are a lot of cars, so I can't believe that driving can't earn money.

>> No.1719279

>>1719247
Have you heard of this thing called "taxi" or "bus"?

>> No.1719281

>>1719228
If doujinshi are so readily available on western sites, how much more so it must be in the east. I imagine a lot of it, good or otherwise isn't purchased because there isn't a need to do so.

>>1719215
Yeah, the link for it on their site is busted. But what sort of person is he? Middle aged? Neckbeard? Or...?

>> No.1719296

>>1719279
Are all cars in this world taxis and basses?
At least my friends don't drive for earning money.

>> No.1719301

>>1719296
basses? Nearly every car can play music if that's what you mean.

>> No.1719323

>>1719301
Haha, yes, I wanted to write buses.
But you seem to want to escape from my question lol.

>> No.1719320

>>1719281
If I could go to a Comiket I would buy them. They are fairly cheap. Although the ones I would actually consider worth buying are a few.

>> No.1719325

>>1719247
Because most cars are a form of income aren't they? And completely optional for everyone?

And yes, your car metaphor in the Kannagi thread was stupid too.

>> No.1719332

>>1719325
I don't know about Kannagi thread.
Maybe you are dreaming.

>> No.1719361

Bad car metaphors? It's like I'm really browsing Slashdot!

>> No.1719380

Seeing the OP, I want to hug Ogiue all over again.

>> No.1719393

In summer 2002, at Comiket 62, 07th Expansion sold 50 copies of Onikakushi-hen for 100 yen.
It was the result that should be called a success.
But 5000 yen is equal to 6 hours of part time job.

It is the doujin world.

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