Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1808

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Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1808 Anonymous Sun May 14 05:46:58 2017 No.17019068 [Reply] [Original]

Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>16996071

This thread is for the discussion and learning of Japanese with raw VNs, LNs, anime and manga.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Let's have a nice thread by reporting and ignoring off-topic posts.
がんばってゆっくりしていってね！！！

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:02:48 2017 No.17019120 >>17019068 How does the に work in 川をきれいにしましょう Is it the same as in 買いに行く?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:03:36 2017 No.17019123 Without rikai hovering over it, how many people here know 稈 or 硅石 or 雉? Just kind of wondering as I noticed my mining cards seem to be mostly random specialized stuff now and I'm not even in the five digit range yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:11:59 2017 No.17019152 >>17019123 Can you read a book without hovering over it?

Anonymous Sun May 14 06:27:02 2017 No.17019188

>>17019152
You mean not looking up anything? Far from it. At least talking about the books I'm interested in. Even though I would say I know all the "normal vocabulary" a lot of stuff has random words like the ones above which kind of kills the flow. I predict it will be about 15k~ mined cards before I feel truly comfortable.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:35:06 2017 No.17019215 >>17019188 And what books are you interested in?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:45:45 2017 No.17019261 File: 289 KB, 1392x805, Fgm6ma8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17019188 >I predict it will be about 15k~ mined cards before I feel truly comfortable. try double that

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:47:02 2017 No.17019272 >熱海湾に面した沿道は白昼の激しい陽射しの名残りを夜気で溶かし、浴衣姿の男女や家族連れの草履に踏ませながら賑わっている。 Can anyone explain the causative usage of the 踏む here? Shouldn't it be passive, since it's being trampled on?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:49:43 2017 No.17019286 >>17019261 Not really. One only needs ~9.5k words to know 95% of the words that come up in novels. I'm sure you don't know all of the words in your native language either. But you can derive its meaning by context. Or by looking up in a dictionary.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 06:57:11 2017 No.17019315 >>17019272 Personalization of the 沿道? I.e. it's 賑わっている because in a metaphorical sense it's letting people's 草履踏む on itself?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 07:05:24 2017 No.17019342 >>17019315 And by "personalization" I mean "personification".

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 07:34:23 2017 No.17019444 >>17019272 こったごったにほんごっぽいにほんごだから英訳はかなりむずかしいよとにかく、お祭りの描写なんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 07:51:51 2017 No.17019495 >>17019272 Road is making the people walk around despite themselves because it's just that nice of road.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 08:12:19 2017 No.17019571 >>17019444 >>17019495 Two poles of autism.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 08:17:14 2017 No.17019580 >>17019120 http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/adverbs

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 08:17:35 2017 No.17019583 >>17019123 I knew 硅石 and 雉 but I know about 28k words according to online tests

Anonymous Sun May 14 08:37:24 2017 No.17019643
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>>17019261
I feel pretty comfortable at 15K. Not fluent, but for a game like Subahibi I get maybe 5 new words per 1K lines. You could guess or skip those without missing much if you wanted (although looking them up is no problem). The number of cards in your deck is also not a great indicator of its value. I'm generous with adding cards, but I do make the bare minimum effort to not add totally obvious shit. There's one anon here with 3500 kanji spread over 6000 cards, and on the other hand I've seen someone who claimed to have 20K cards while knowing only 2.7K kanji.

Anonymous Sun May 14 08:41:21 2017 No.17019657

>>17019286
>>17019643
Unless you are doing double sided cards you are merely training recognition (i.e. passive vocabulary). A native speaker's passive vocabulary ranges from 25k-50k depending on factors like their education and social circle. Now mining that many cards can be a bit troublesome, in the latter stages of language learning words should be learnt more passively. Mined words therefore seems to be a bad indicator of how good you are or how well you will read.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 08:53:48 2017 No.17019706 >>17019643 >but for a game like Subahibi I get maybe 5 new words per 1K lines I have 7k cards and there's not a single word in Subahibi I don't know heh.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 08:56:17 2017 No.17019715 >>17019706 (there are more than 7k words in subahibi)

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 09:00:40 2017 No.17019724 >>17019715 Does that exclude obvious compound words?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 09:01:20 2017 No.17019726 >>17019724 Some but not all.

Anonymous Sun May 14 09:01:34 2017 No.17019727
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What's a nice Japanese font for Word?
I use it for notes, saving song texts and stuff like that.

While I'm at it, I can barely read the entries when using a J-J dictionary with rikaisama, is there a way to increase the size?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 09:02:15 2017 No.17019730 >>17019727 fonts section of the cor

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 09:02:53 2017 No.17019733 >>17019715 I see you are a very smart individual.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 09:03:17 2017 No.17019735 >>17019727 Get good.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 09:03:43 2017 No.17019739 >>17019733 Some people are really that stupid.

Anonymous Sun May 14 09:49:04 2017 No.17019914

Is there any anki core2k like deck that doesn't (or rarely) us any kanji, but rather hiragana and katakana?
Basically I want to learn vocabulary separately from kanji, as I think that my pace will be much faster that way.
Also listening comprehension is more important than reading for me.

Anonymous Sun May 14 09:54:41 2017 No.17019931

>>17019914
Bad idea no matter what your goal is. You can theoretically simply restructure the existing core decks as they have the Kana information in there but it's simply inadvisable. If you really want to to learn Kanji, do that, but also learn the vocabulary with the Kanji. That way your studies overlap. Trying to categorize and isolate language learning sections only harms you.

Anonymous Sun May 14 10:03:28 2017 No.17019966

>>17019931
How can it harm me if it is the way japanese people learn?
First the words are learned and then the kanji.
I think it will hamper me if I fixate too much on the necessity of reading kanji, as I can learn vocabulary much faster than kanji.
Kanji study is something I will do separately, but at a lower pace.
As for the deck, maybe I will write a script which automates the process.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:07:56 2017 No.17019978 >>17019966 Whatever works best for you, good luck.

Anonymous Sun May 14 10:09:47 2017 No.17019987

>>17019966
Rule of thumb for all language learning: the more you struggle the more you learn. Go ahead and do whatever you feel will make it easier but you are only burning time on inefficient learning.

As for the cards, you literally only need to change the styling and that's it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:11:59 2017 No.17019996 File: 405 KB, 710x624, 1370188956967.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm two-thirds of the way into Core6k and I realized what a mistake I've made by not reading and mining after finishing Core2k. I'm a できない

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:15:14 2017 No.17020002 >>17019966 Do you want to learn Japanese in 10+ years?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:16:16 2017 No.17020005 >>17019996 Just start reading right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:19:48 2017 No.17020017 >>17019996 It doesn't really matter, core is garbage and distributes common words throughout the entire 6k instead of frontloading them. It's inefficient but you still spent your time learning useful things.

Anonymous Sun May 14 10:25:53 2017 No.17020038

>>17020002
If I am able to learn more vocabulary in a shorter time, I will gain understanding quicker.
Especially since listening comprehension and speaking is high priority for me, as I will spend a lot of time in Japan soon.
Knowing a lot of kanji is not really necessary for day to day life in japan, understanding others, knowing how to form sentences and speak is.
Also I didn't say that I won't learn the kanji writings of vocabulary, but I will do this separately.

>>17019987
>As for the cards, you literally only need to change the styling and that's it.
Thanks, this was quite easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:32:06 2017 No.17020061 Is 名前 a loan word?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:36:56 2017 No.17020080 >>17020061 Yea, from Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:45:14 2017 No.17020113 >>17020080 Well not a loanword but etymological roots. Nothing to do with the English name.

Anonymous Sun May 14 10:45:52 2017 No.17020118

>>17019996
Time spent "studying wrong" is not time wasted. As other anon said, you without a doubt learned something useful in your time spent with Core. There are only two modes to this game: Learning Japanese and Learning Japanese faster. Remember that the only way to actually fail at learning Japanese is to give up. If your methods are horribly inefficient but your resolve is sincere, you will still learn the language, even if it takes twice as long as another guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:49:21 2017 No.17020136 >>17020080 I mean from English.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:50:18 2017 No.17020141 >>17020136 Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:52:44 2017 No.17020148 >>17020141 No. I'm just asking if 名前 is a loan word from English.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:53:10 2017 No.17020154 >>17020148 So you are.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:54:08 2017 No.17020160 >>17020154 No. I'll repeat my question, is 名前 a loan word from English?

Anonymous Sun May 14 10:54:11 2017 No.17020161

>>17020038
Here's one problem with your idea: Homophones. How are you supposed to know whether かみ is the thing you take notes on, the fuzzy stuff on your head, or the dude in the sky you throw coins at on New Year's? This isn't a problem in spoken Japanese because you have the context clarify. Not so with Anki.

Anonymous Sun May 14 10:54:42 2017 No.17020166

>整理したものを系統別にちゃんとまとめておきました。
I have a hard time coming up with an English word for 系統別, anyone have an idea? I know that it means he tidied up everything into a neat system with differentiation but I can't come up with anything that sounds more eloquent than that

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:55:11 2017 No.17020170 >>17020160 I don't know japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:55:56 2017 No.17020173 >>17020170 Same here. I'm not even a learner yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:57:23 2017 No.17020182 >>17020173 Fuck off, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 10:58:39 2017 No.17020184 >>17020161 In such cases I can just learn the kanji. It's not like I hate the idea of learning them.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:05:02 2017 No.17020211 >>17020080 Chinese don't say 名前...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:06:00 2017 No.17020214 >>17020160 http://gogen-allguide.com/na/namae.html

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:06:24 2017 No.17020216 >>17020182 Can you tell me if 名前 is a lone world from English?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:07:01 2017 No.17020219 >>17020216 I too would like to know this.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:19:18 2017 No.17020265 >>17019580 that's not how adverbs work t. not bothering reading the chapter to see if it actually covers more than adverbs >>17019120 let's make the river きれい

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:21:58 2017 No.17020276 >>17020184 The language is full of them. You can do whatever you want but you'll probably end up confused.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:22:45 2017 No.17020281 >>17019987 >the more you struggle the more you learn W R O N G HOLY SHIT This is absolutely retarded, never even attempt to spread this bullshit again. Struggling can mean so much more than "challenging yourself in a worthwhile way."

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:23:35 2017 No.17020286 >>17020281 t. babby who can't read more than Yotsubato and moege after a year still

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:27:06 2017 No.17020305 >>17020166 "by {group, class, order, et.c.}"?

Anonymous Sun May 14 11:28:54 2017 No.17020312
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Are any of you guys good enough to understand the news? It took me like 3 years to get to 80-90% anime comprehension, and watching the news (or really any kind depiction of normal Japanese people speaking) I'm only getting like 20-30% comprehension. I guess I just realized it's gonna take me another three years to understand normal Japs and I've come here to complain about it. I hate waiting. Any listening comprehension advice?

Anonymous Sun May 14 11:31:01 2017 No.17020323

>>17020286
You sound like the kind of faggot to defend pressing again on new cards because "it makes my stats worse, which means my training regime is harsher, which means my gains are greater"

Being autistic =/= making progress. At least study for half a year before infesting the thread with your bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:32:05 2017 No.17020330 >>17020312 Listen to massive quantities of comprehensible material. If it took you 3 years then you did something really wrong or didn't spend much time.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:32:34 2017 No.17020332 >>17020323 You can't learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:32:38 2017 No.17020333 >>17020286 t. N2-kun

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:32:57 2017 No.17020336 >>17020332 Too late.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:34:53 2017 No.17020342 >>17020323 >defend pressing again on new cards What? Are you supposed to press pass despite not knowing the card?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:35:32 2017 No.17020348 >>17020265 The pattern is adverbial form + する・なる regardless of whether it's still considered an adverb. That's why it's in that section.

Anonymous Sun May 14 11:37:13 2017 No.17020357

>>17020342
You're supposed to press the 10 minute button. It makes literally no difference in the long run (read: 1 week, seriously) other than skewing your statistics. The "pressing again" statistic is for cards you forgot, to track your retention. What do you achieve by including 20 cards you have not yet learned into your retention statistic?

Anonymous Sun May 14 11:37:56 2017 No.17020361

>>17020330
Well, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit. I didn't even bother mining words in anki until about six months ago, so if we're being liberal here I could say I didn't start REALLY learning japanese until about a year ago.

Have any recommendations for real people speaking Japanese at a fast pace besides the news though? All I know about is the news and anime.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:38:51 2017 No.17020367 I don't understand the dictionary's definition of 同居人. >一緒に住んでいる家族以外の人。 A family you that you live with the exception of people? The main thing that's confusing me is 以外.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:40:18 2017 No.17020372 >>17020367 [一緒に住んでいる] [家族以外] の人。

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:40:42 2017 No.17020374 >>17020367 People you live with except family.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:41:44 2017 No.17020381 >>17020342 Of course not. Pressing "Good" on a card you don't know doesn't make much sense does it?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:43:14 2017 No.17020386 >>17020357 Have you ever taken a look at the statistics screen or are you just retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:47:18 2017 No.17020399 >>17020367 It can also mean "other than" or "outside of".

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:49:13 2017 No.17020404 File: 5 KB, 200x40, OEMCaptchaImage[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can one of you type this captcha for me please? thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:50:06 2017 No.17020406 >>17020404 問根堀

Anonymous Sun May 14 11:54:20 2017 No.17020423

So I was reading this Chiebukuro post to understand better the difference between 中味 and 中身, and as general practice.

https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1142504986

The difference proved not hard to grasp, but I came upon this phrase.
>「ミカンの中味」と言えば
>皮を剥いた真ん中の《だいだい色の球体の可食部分》に、
>その実の詰まり具合や味などの内容を含んだもの。

Am I correct in understanding that 実 is 「み」, and that the meaning of その実詰まり具合 is to the extent of "The consistency of the fruit body"?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:55:23 2017 No.17020431 >>17020423 >その実詰まり具合 Missed a の here, but it's in the quoted text.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:55:44 2017 No.17020433 >>17020404 といねほり

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 11:57:02 2017 No.17020440 >>17020433 thanks so much, worked perfectly. you're the man.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:11:53 2017 No.17020508 File: 51 KB, 352x499, bk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4874246788/ How's this compared to DoJG? Seems like very little learners actually own it and no pages online for me to check the quality.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:12:48 2017 No.17020510 >>17020508 Probably better since it's more modern but nobody's ripped it yet and I'd only buy it to do so if it were available on .com.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:13:22 2017 No.17020511 >>17020508 >>17020510 Also, the japanese version is in the CoR, IIRC, but I don't know whether it's an old revision or not.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:26:23 2017 No.17020584 File: 472 KB, 553x850, kk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17020508 The Japanese version is pretty good. Better than DoJG in a lot of ways, although the focus is different so the comparison isn't straight-forward. Here, I had this excerpt.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:37:01 2017 No.17020632 >>17020511 >>17020584 Are you sure the Japanese version of this is in the CoR? I've searched through the files containing "handbook" but didn't find it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:38:11 2017 No.17020642 >>17020508 Someone posted some photos of the English version a while ago. http://imgur.com/a/TNJ8J >>17020632 日本語文型辞典

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:43:26 2017 No.17020679 >>17020642 >http://imgur.com/a/TNJ8J Looks good. Hope scans appear eventually.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:51:25 2017 No.17020734 >>17020312 >Are any of you guys good enough to understand the news? Nope. I'm not even a learner to be entirely honest with you.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:55:33 2017 No.17020759 >>17020734 Then what the hell are you doing here!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 12:55:56 2017 No.17020760 >>17020759 Trying to become a learner.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:00:50 2017 No.17020785 >>17020760 You can do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:05:12 2017 No.17020809 When are two kanjis equal?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:05:23 2017 No.17020812 真面目の一歩はいいアニメです！！！

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:06:47 2017 No.17020817 >>17020508 >>17020584 I have the english version (and all the DOJGs). This one is basically all example sentences for grammar points, while the DOJGs focus more on detailed explanations. Both are useful.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:08:26 2017 No.17020827 >>17020809 When they share the same unicode codepoint https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:11:23 2017 No.17020839 >>17020642 >日本語文型辞典 Thanks mate (really should've been able to find that on my own, though).

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:12:06 2017 No.17020843 >>17020812 I bet you think you did something smart.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:21:29 2017 No.17020885 what's the name of the jap font used in Persona 5?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 13:40:42 2017 No.17020966 >>17020812 >真面目 Wrong letter, buddy. It's はじめ, not まじめ.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 14:24:57 2017 No.17021118 >>17020827 Them's fighting words, senpai.

Anonymous Sun May 14 14:55:05 2017 No.17021267

Ok, I'm retarded and tech illiterate. I downloaded the Core 2k/6k anki deck from https://djtguide.neocities.org/anki.html but now I don't know if I'm being shown cards from 2k or 6k. There are 6k cards in total but do the cards go from easy to hard or are they just shown randomly? Do I need to make a selection to learn the simpler cards first?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 14:55:53 2017 No.17021269 >>17021267 Every card has a number. Cards with smaller numbers are shown first. 2k is simply the first 2k cards. 6k is both 2k plus an additional 4000 cards for a total of 6000 cards.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 14:56:24 2017 No.17021272 >>17021267 >>17021269 Also anki has an option for showing new cards in random order, make sure it's disabled.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 14:59:17 2017 No.17021287 >>17021269 >>17021272 Thank you, that's exactly the explanation I needed.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 15:24:06 2017 No.17021398 I'm getting back into Anki but I can't find the optimized core10k anymore. Does anyone have a link?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 15:31:05 2017 No.17021449 >>17021398 Just mine you dumb fucking drone.

Anonymous Sun May 14 15:34:36 2017 No.17021464
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I'm working through the genki books, I'm at chapter 7 of the first one right now.

When should I start looking into japanese pen-pals? I'd like to get accustomed to writing/speaking with an actual person.

Anonymous Sun May 14 15:42:58 2017 No.17021507

No matter where I look I can't seem to find a decent explanation of んじゃない, even though it comes up everywhere. Judging from the contexts I've seen so far, it seems like it can be a either a command or an assertion, and either positive or negative, which is very confusing, and de-abbreviating it to のではない often doesn't seem to make any sense either.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 15:43:53 2017 No.17021513 >>17021464 Talk to one ASAP. They're all pretty helpful. Try hellotalk

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 15:52:12 2017 No.17021552 >>17021507 https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/6997868.html It's basically a softer, less direct version of the rhetorical じゃない

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:25:01 2017 No.17021679 >>17020812 is this a parody

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:31:00 2017 No.17021702 Does anyone know how to write with furigana?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:32:07 2017 No.17021707 >>17021702 What's a furigana

Anonymous Sun May 14 16:32:23 2017 No.17021708

(blog commencing)
i went through the japanese course of duolingo through a hack because why not.

it's full of nuances, sometimes the kanji is not read, and expect it to be good once it gets full of feedback.

also there's a subculture and a olympics sub-course as a bonus. i couldn't use them because it kicked me out.

tl;dr keep doing your daily studies and don't even attempt looking at this until more than a couple months pass. It's for n5 babies anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:34:38 2017 No.17021717 >>17021708 So you realised that your post was a blog but submitted it anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:35:31 2017 No.17021721 >>17021708 nobody (reasonable) here thought duolinguo was going to be useful

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:43:10 2017 No.17021745 Why do we have so many mouthbreathing retards like >>17021707 here lately?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 16:45:58 2017 No.17021765 >>17021745 Looks like we're being raided by /r/learnjapanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 17:28:57 2017 No.17021947 I know I'm repeating myself but do you guys know of any alternative link to the All About Particles anki deck? The one at DJT seems to be down

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 17:29:37 2017 No.17021953 >>17021947 Please do not learn grammar in anki.

Anonymous Sun May 14 17:34:41 2017 No.17021973

>>17021552
Not exactly. I found more or less what I was looking for here:

https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/8789955.html

apparently んじゃない can also work as a negative imperative, even though that might mean almost the opposite of it's interpretation as a rhetorical question.
I still don't really understand how it can mean that (the top answer seems to have a go at explaining but they are still a bit vague), but that's just japanese for you I guess.

Anonymous Sun May 14 17:40:53 2017 No.17022020

>>17021953
Not him: If the deck is structured like a dictionary of particles I think it's fine. If it's something else though I agree. I don't have the deck so I don't know, but I accidentally mined particles when I started out and it actually helped, i.e. I recognize the ones I mined with more reliability.

Anonymous Sun May 14 17:41:22 2017 No.17022024

>>17021947
I don't have a copy, but if you really wanted it you could remake it using this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WRDMOoote81ar83frLpXtXMuqqLyVvbK0Ad01Bz_Cuc/edit?authkey=CNvEn78D&hl=en&hl=en&authkey=CNvEn78D#gid=0

You'd have to export it as tab-separated files, import that into Anki and remake the style/template yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 17:48:44 2017 No.17022072 Do you go through your cards all in one sitting or do you only do an amount of them at a time before coming back later in the day?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 18:04:02 2017 No.17022136 File: 73 KB, 403x561, kuma_miko_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >finish reps on 23:58 FUCK, YEAH! STREAK PRESERVED!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 18:23:16 2017 No.17022193 >>17021507 >and de-abbreviating it to のではない often doesn't seem to make any sense either. but they're the same thing

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 18:48:45 2017 No.17022301 Is there a replacement for Rikaisama?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 18:52:16 2017 No.17022311 >>17022193 what part of のではない makes a negative imperative then? I've seen plenty of rhetorical questions as のではない（か）, but I've never seen a negative imperative expression written like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 18:56:54 2017 No.17022331 >>17022301 A physical dictionary. I think some anon mentioned yomichan or some shit not so long ago, not sure if it is any good though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:00:20 2017 No.17022347 >>17022311 can't really tell you what part makes it work like that, but it's used like that, like のだ can be used to give a command/instruction

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:13:09 2017 No.17022393 File: 250 KB, 810x914, Japanese the Manga Way.pdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17022311 >>17022347 The superior grammar guide mentions it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:15:45 2017 No.17022411 >>17022393 sorry i don't want to learn manga japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:21:51 2017 No.17022438 >>17022411 Good luck learning tae kim japanese then.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:36:13 2017 No.17022477 >>17022311 >廊下で走るんじゃない！ If you tried to translate it literally it might be something like, "Running in the hallway is not the thing!" That is to say, it's not the proper/expected thing to do. You should do something else instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:40:23 2017 No.17022487 >>17022301 >>17022331 Yomichan is good, that's what I've been using as a Rikaisama replacement. I had to upload my own J-to-J dictionary for it though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:49:16 2017 No.17022524 >>17022311 I assume it's never expanded to のではないbecause it's an inherently slangy way to make a command. Putting one part of your slang in proper Japanese sounds silly.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 19:59:37 2017 No.17022557 >>17022024 Thanks a lot!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 20:29:23 2017 No.17022676 sorry guys, I give up

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 20:30:37 2017 No.17022680 >>17022676 Good

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 20:30:50 2017 No.17022681 File: 84 KB, 300x521, yanda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17022676

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 20:48:05 2017 No.17022761 >>17022676 How far did you make it

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:03:41 2017 No.17022818 >>17022761 finished genki 1 and 2 tried to immerse, and I can't understand a goddamn native thing no matter how much I work at it

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:30:41 2017 No.17022897 File: 336 KB, 983x455, Screenshot_2017-05-14-18-27-10-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] could an anon help me recognize the radicals?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:33:24 2017 No.17022911 Which kanji is the most complex/has the most strokes?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:34:48 2017 No.17022916 >>17022911 鬱

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:36:01 2017 No.17022920 File: 65 KB, 707x483, 1492616260009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >思春期に大量に分泌される化学物質のなせるわざだ What does 思春期に mean in this sentence? Is the の replacing a が?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:36:28 2017 No.17022922 >>17022916 Trying to write that thing makes me depressed.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:37:57 2017 No.17022924 >>17022920 Are you fucking braindead? Go back to learning particles, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:43:28 2017 No.17022944 File: 41 KB, 600x600, 14878209384.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17022924 I think I got it now. The される was what I needed to look at. Long passive phrases are difficult. Thanks for the help anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:48:06 2017 No.17022967 >>17022920 it's the work of chemical substances that are released in large quantities during puberty

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:51:58 2017 No.17022979 >>17022967 Ah, thanks. I see it now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 21:56:13 2017 No.17022989 I think I want to get a kanji book. Should I get remembering the kanji or kodanshas kanji or another?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 22:02:09 2017 No.17023007 >>17022920 That なせる confused me at first. It's not actually the potential form of なす and just means した. https://kotobank.jp/word/%E7%82%BA%E3%81%9B%E3%82%8B-588795

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 22:05:19 2017 No.17023016 >>17023007 文語は楽しい

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 22:33:04 2017 No.17023103 File: 102 KB, 230x384, 8~01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Having trouble with this, >ko, kono Is it saying "child, this", or maybe "th-this"? >休勢wa "Rest energy is-"? I don't know the word 休勢 and it isn't in my dictionary

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 22:37:50 2017 No.17023116 Where do you guys go to double-check stroke order? Are some places better or worse than others? I've been using http://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/home/ but I don't know shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 22:39:29 2017 No.17023123 >>17022818 You probably need to try a bit harder than that. Just do it slow

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 23:13:12 2017 No.17023271 アノン君ファイト！頑張れー

Anonymous Sun May 14 23:26:52 2017 No.17023335

Based on 8 VNs, only one of which is particularly short, only ~24k words show up in more than one of them. And something like, I'm ballparking this here, 25% of those are loanwords from english or not "words of their own" (adverb forms of i-adjectives, compound verbs, nouns with derivational affixes attached).

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 23:27:24 2017 No.17023338 >>17023116 I don't care about stroke order

>>	Anonymous Sun May 14 23:31:13 2017 No.17023350 >>17023116 If WWWJDIC doesn't have a stroke order animation I just Google "[kanji]　書き方"

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 00:25:25 2017 No.17023566 Going through Genki 1 now. When should I start core 2k? After Genki 2?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 00:45:40 2017 No.17023664 数たちをよく聞こえることを磨く方法を教えて、お兄ちゃん

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 00:49:14 2017 No.17023682 日本語が中途半端に入ると難しいな。。。

Anonymous Mon May 15 00:51:44 2017 No.17023693

>>17023566
You could start now. But I'd start by solidifying a bit of grammar and then moving to native content you're interested in so that you learn stuff in context, instead through a seemingly random order of words and expressions.
If you don't understand, which is normal, there's always jisho.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 00:53:27 2017 No.17023708 >>>/int/74820293 日本人

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:01:30 2017 No.17023747 変格活用まで理解しようとすると無理だよ感覚で覚えるもんだし

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:04:39 2017 No.17023765 >>17023747 せ、し、す、する、すれ、せよこ、き、く、くる、くれ、こ・こよただの暗記なんだよ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:08:23 2017 No.17023777 >>17023765 暗記か？普通に俺は感覚で使っちゃうから難しいでもそれを理解した上で使ってる日本人少なくね？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:15:47 2017 No.17023808 File: 74 KB, 831x588, sy2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17023664 よく聞くと聞き取りが良くなるだろ >>17023338 It is useful. You should. >>17023765 投稿を訂正しろ！

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:18:51 2017 No.17023817 >>17023808 何が悪いの？たしかに口語ではし・さ・せ、し、する、する、すれ、しよ・せよこ、き、くる、くる、くれ、こいなんだけど

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:19:48 2017 No.17023820 >>17023808 流石お兄ちゃん説明がうまいな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:19:53 2017 No.17023822 >>17023817 >しよしろってへ

Anonymous Mon May 15 01:21:36 2017 No.17023828

I don't have the discipline to get any farther on my own in Japanese. I really need a structured native tutor at this point, especially because I want to focus on business level Japanese.

If I can't find a live tutor in my area or classes, does anyone have suggestions of paid websites with streaming sessions that give good results and are well structured and intensive? I have plenty of free time and money isn't really an issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:22:57 2017 No.17023836 >>17023817 日本人ですら国語、古文で小中高12年かけて学ぶもんを文字で理解しろって無理ゲーだから怒ってるんじゃね？怒ってるなら英語で書いてくれるとわかりやすい

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:34:11 2017 No.17023873 日本語を仕事で使えるレベルか… 日本人とSkypeで話すのが一番覚えやすいんだけどな… 日本語のインターネット授業って少ないのよ You had better talk with Japanese people on Skype

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:42:19 2017 No.17023901 流暢に発言できるのはすごいですね僕もそのようになりたいんですがアメリカに住んでますし、周りには日本語母語者もいません得意なのは読解と翻訳だけですそれで満足することにしますはい終了

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:48:15 2017 No.17023918 今北産業(´･ω･`)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:49:07 2017 No.17023925 >>17023901 それだけできればすげえよ！！ U A amazing!!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:50:15 2017 No.17023931 >>17023918 ここの連中日本語話したいなぜか文章で理解しようとしてる

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:52:16 2017 No.17023940 >>17023828 Try iTalki, it seems pretty popular.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:53:01 2017 No.17023943 おｋ　I anderstand come on ! ! ! グーグル翻訳で英語待機してるで！

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 01:55:43 2017 No.17023959 I came from the Japanese version 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:01:23 2017 No.17023978 I came from VIP. haha

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:01:31 2017 No.17023980 >>17023940 Exactly what I was looking for, Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:05:44 2017 No.17023998 I don't understand who is a man whose language is Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:08:07 2017 No.17024008 >カノー先輩は、生命力に欠け過ぎてますからね～ >そうかな >はい、毎朝公園でゲートボールしてるウチのおじいちゃんより、儚げです I don't really understand the third sentence, mainly what より is doing here and the following 儚げです.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:21:33 2017 No.17024059 なぁ、タダでさえ神の俺っちが神を超えたら俺っちは一体何者になるんや？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:23:28 2017 No.17024065 >>17024044 I understand what they mean individually, just how it connects with 家のおじいちゃん

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:24:33 2017 No.17024067 >>17024065 he seems even more ephemeral than my uncle that plays gate ball at the park every morning

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:30:17 2017 No.17024083 >>17024008 ウチのおじいちゃんより、儚げです = more frail(or fragile) than my grandfather

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:40:29 2017 No.17024104 「嬉しげだ」と「嬉しそうだ」とは、ほぼ同じ意味を持ってるでしょうか同じ文脈でも使えるでしょうか

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:41:57 2017 No.17024106 >>17024085 Sorry.I did not translate it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:44:25 2017 No.17024115 >>17024104 嬉しげだの方が賢そう

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:56:42 2017 No.17024163 >>17024140 残念ながらそれには日本のipが必要なんだ。。

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:56:51 2017 No.17024164 >>17022136 New day starts at 6 hours past midnight by default

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:57:22 2017 No.17024166 なんか認証のせいでエロ動画をダウンロードしてる気分だよな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 02:57:40 2017 No.17024167 IP弾いてんの？2ch最低だな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:05:45 2017 No.17024195 2ch is isolated

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:08:08 2017 No.17024203 >>17024195 >2ch is isolated Is it isolated? Everyone who came here Hentai

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:14:09 2017 No.17024214 >>17024206 串も面倒いなこういう串とか理解したいらしいけどあと外人書き込み遅いな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:18:29 2017 No.17024234 File: 86 KB, 516x776, IMG_0246.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17024221 that's right I think I get angry when translating Japanese below Jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:20:04 2017 No.17024238 >>17024225 ダメ人間ゆうな社畜じゃなくて何が悪い

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:23:19 2017 No.17024252 >>17024230 それがどうしたって言うんだ？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:26:32 2017 No.17024266 >>17024259 いや２ｃｈの奴等はみんなキチガイだから気にするな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:27:30 2017 No.17024275 >>17024259 日本人が言うと滑稽千万だぞ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:32:02 2017 No.17024293 >>17024284 いや私たちの日本語は優秀すぎるだけだ Although you did come here at an awkward time, all the Americans are asleep.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:35:11 2017 No.17024308 2chは専ブラないと使いモノにならないレベルだけどここはいいね

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:38:03 2017 No.17024319 なるほどオーストラリアなら日本と時差がないな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:40:01 2017 No.17024325 アメリカの西海岸のニート共もまだ起きてるはずです

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:40:32 2017 No.17024328 >>17024323 祝福ありがと

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:40:48 2017 No.17024329 >>17024273 すげえなパウロちゃん可愛すぎ >>17024284 >>17024289 アメリカ人は大体寝てるかももちろんこの俺のようなニートなら午前三時だって関係ないさ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:41:43 2017 No.17024336 思うんだが4chanの連中と、俺ら時差あるよな…？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:48:20 2017 No.17024369 >>17024353 怒りを表すreaction imageなのです

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:49:05 2017 No.17024372 File: 2.99 MB, 1280x720, 1435091374481sudoku.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 切腹しろ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 03:49:18 2017 No.17024374 >>17024369 so cute

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:02:01 2017 No.17024429 大学時間です、さよなら日本人達 (ゝω・`)┏┏

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:03:39 2017 No.17024438 >>17024390 Thanks But wouldn't that mean "Shingeki no Bahamut" was Rage's Bahamut instead of Bahamut's Rage?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:07:08 2017 No.17024453 グーグル翻訳してもなおカタカナの英語が出てくる(´･ω･`；)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:14:31 2017 No.17024485 >>17024462 I think it's just an adjective phrase. to make sounds cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:16:06 2017 No.17024492 >>17024474 >>17024480 I see. Thank you. I don't quite understand, but it helps me to know there are different uses.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:37:20 2017 No.17024567 >>17024545 その場合　の　はいらないな俺の存在を定義する漢字でいい

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 04:49:11 2017 No.17024601 File: 61 KB, 612x462, 1476048300280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17024567 ありがとう

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 07:01:22 2017 No.17024925 久しぶりにきたらビッカスが暴れてる？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 08:54:34 2017 No.17025217 File: 239 KB, 768x768, 1473085042324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17024098

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 09:01:16 2017 No.17025247 おはようおにいちゃんいわしむきすぎて手がもうボロボロ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 09:06:16 2017 No.17025273 >>17025247 妹ライフスタイル大変だね

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 09:28:09 2017 No.17025328 what the hell happened here

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 09:52:33 2017 No.17025400 >>17025273 おっきいのはこうやってワタとホネを抜くんだけど https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_fkCROz5eQ 海でとれるからさくさく漁ればいいんだよ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 10:22:24 2017 No.17025485 >>17025448 なんで4chanで英語の勉強したいかわからないが、/int/のほうがふさわしいと思うよ Pretty good English for a 13 year old Japanese though >>>/int/74867180

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 10:41:59 2017 No.17025579 actually he is 43.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 10:43:38 2017 No.17025583 but why 4chan check if 'im fucking robot or not every single post?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 11:00:47 2017 No.17025671 >>17025376 >if production had some overlap with reading and listening comprehension I'd surely take the time though I think it does.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 11:24:15 2017 No.17025789 File: 67 KB, 665x357, ss+(2017-05-15+at+04.19.28).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 11:42:04 2017 No.17025864 File: 214 KB, 1440x900, kill_me_baby_016_yasuna.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17025789 Nice, desu-ne!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 11:55:18 2017 No.17025919 Duolingo's Japanese course coming out in three days, are you all hyped?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 11:56:39 2017 No.17025929 >>17025919 No. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 11:58:00 2017 No.17025937 >>17025929 Any reason for the negativity other than the 4chan-trademarked kneejerk reaction of it being new

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:00:44 2017 No.17025952 File: 30 KB, 802x938, file (4).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] coming--------:)--------!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:01:49 2017 No.17025957 >>17025947 >>17025945 Except for being judged by people who think other people care about what they think, is there still no legitimate reason for all the negativity

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:06:01 2017 No.17025973 >>17025957 None at all, now blast off like Team Rocket.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:09:01 2017 No.17025981 >>17025957 Keeping people from being misled into buying into crappy platforms is a very legitimate reason for negativity.

Anonymous Mon May 15 12:11:02 2017 No.17025991

>>17025984
No, "buying into" is a phrasal verb in english.

>it's a fine platform
Does it expose you to copious amounts of arbitrary, compelling japanese? Does it adapt to your skill level, no matter how low or high? The answer is no. It's not a fine platform.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:11:04 2017 No.17025992 >>17025984 >It's free Have fun with that. You get what you pay for.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:12:33 2017 No.17025999 >>17025995 Go marry him, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:12:43 2017 No.17026000 >>17025991 The answer should be no because it's not out yet, but it definitely does that with other languages though

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:13:17 2017 No.17026002 >>17026000 It doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:16:16 2017 No.17026011 >>17026002 But it does, and I'm guessing you haven't finished an entire course let alone checked it out again after the first time you did years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:16:57 2017 No.17026013 >>17025995 had a giggle

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:17:33 2017 No.17026018 >>17026011 I should have to finish the course for it to show me things at exactly my skill level. The fact that you used the words "finish" and "course" prove that it's inherently bad. Fuck off and stop shilling.

Anonymous Mon May 15 12:18:06 2017 No.17026022
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>>17026004

Top: Chinese version and how it is displayed on some sites.
Bottom: Japanese version and how I'd like it to look everywhere.

Both Chrome and Android do this unless the whole system is set to Japanese from what I know.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:18:11 2017 No.17026024 >>17025995 crushing hard on this cutie :3

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:19:18 2017 No.17026028 >>17026013 >>17025995 >>17026024 You need to go back, dogen.

Anonymous Mon May 15 12:21:23 2017 No.17026038

>>17026018
Look at how I didn't mention the training mode to do the thing you keep complaining about, meaning you did exactly as the post you're replying to described and haven't actually been to the site let alone do one of the courses

What is it with 4chan people and the fear of being in the wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:22:48 2017 No.17026047 >>17026038 That doesn't do what it needs to do. You don't know how languages are learned. >What is it with 4chan people and the fear of being in the wrong What is it with shills and strawmanning

Anonymous Mon May 15 12:23:45 2017 No.17026051

>>17026038
There is exactly one way to learn languages.

Consume language material that's at the right level for you.

Drills don't work. Memorizing patterns don't work. They don't make you fluent in any way.

Duolingo doesn't have enough compelling language material. It's not useful.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:27:44 2017 No.17026074 >>17026068 Ah, yes, making people feel good for finding this hip fun thing that makes you sm4rter on tuitter, prompting them to retueet it and tell their friends.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:32:09 2017 No.17026095 >>17026047 >>17026051 >>17026058 Which one of these posts have actually finished a course on the website Don't reply if your answer is no or dodging the question, because don't expect another reply then

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:41:19 2017 No.17026140 >>17026137 Does being fucking done with this language count?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:55:30 2017 No.17026220 >>17026137 >finished What's that?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:57:32 2017 No.17026231 >>17026137 I haven't started yet, but I plan to do that soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:57:57 2017 No.17026232 When people say 「うーん」in manga is it always ううん meaning no, or can it sometimes be some sort of extended うん with emphasis meaning yes? If so is there something that can help me distinguish the two?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:58:27 2017 No.17026235 >>17026232 It's neither.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:58:50 2017 No.17026237 >>17026137 As long as you're here you're a DJT EOP.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:59:08 2017 No.17026241 File: 2 KB, 118x101, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17026232 I wonder. . .

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:59:29 2017 No.17026243 >>17026237 Hello DJT EOP.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 12:59:42 2017 No.17026244 >>17026232 It's an abbreviated form of うんこ. Next time, use a dictionary.

Anonymous Mon May 15 13:05:40 2017 No.17026263

>>17026095

>I assert that paying me $200 for me to tell you to stand on your head will make you great at golf.

>What's that? A community of golfers suggests that's not the case? Ha! Have any of them given me the $200 for my program? No? Then how could they possibly postulate the effectiveness of my program?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:08:56 2017 No.17026273 >>17025986 Han unification was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:11:56 2017 No.17026286 >>17025986 why not simply change to Japanese font

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:26:11 2017 No.17026354 Why is こんにちは "Konnichiwa" instead of "Konnichiha"? Is it an abbreviated sentence or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:29:16 2017 No.17026372 >>17026354 Why are you so stupid?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:34:15 2017 No.17026397 >>17026349 >>17026374 Do you perchance have some kind of learning deficiency?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:36:27 2017 No.17026406 >>17026397 Probably, don't know what though I always just figured I have a bad memory

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:37:20 2017 No.17026412 Newfag here. What does mining mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:38:37 2017 No.17026422 >>17026406 At what age did you start learning? What age are you now? What does your studying routine look like/what has it looked like for the first and last years?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:46:51 2017 No.17026459 >>17026419 Pls no bully

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:49:59 2017 No.17026472 >>17026468 I could you've been reading much at all if your comprehension is that bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:50:17 2017 No.17026477 >>17026450 Thank you for correct my bad English.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:50:45 2017 No.17026480 >>17026468 You might be retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:51:04 2017 No.17026483 >>17026468 I doubt you've been reading much at all if your listening comprehension is that bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:56:50 2017 No.17026515 >>17026496 Maybe it is because idolmaster is more otaku so that they use more unusual Japanese? I don't know about anime these days though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:58:59 2017 No.17026525 File: 68 KB, 1280x720, [Chibiki] THE iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls - 10 [720p][70C30E55].mkv_snapshot_11.00_[2015.07.05_01.43.13].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17026496 >Idolmaster It is hard even with English subs.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 13:59:17 2017 No.17026528 >>17026496 Yeah not buying it. Someone who would be at the level of being able to read Albatross does not struggle with SoL anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:04:36 2017 No.17026548 >>17026528 It's not that hard to believe that I've just spent a disproportionate amount of time practising reading compared to listening

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:06:59 2017 No.17026561 Those gooks sure know how to shitpost

Anonymous Mon May 15 14:09:38 2017 No.17026579

>>17026548
It is. Reading is like mini-listening at the same time because you sub-vocalize the text in your head. So if you are able to read at a decent speed and got the vocabulary down, you are also able to pick up listening very quickly retroactively. 95% of my time is spent reading and anime became a non-issue long before I even reached the second year of study.

Anonymous Mon May 15 14:12:15 2017 No.17026592

>>17026579
Well I guess I just have brain problems then, I've been reading for at least 5 years, most of that time I was neet, I mined 15k words and 3k unique kanji before I stopped using anki, yet I still have massive problems with listening comprehension

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:13:23 2017 No.17026598 >>17026372 I do not have an answer for that question. I may be too stupid to comprehend the reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:17:40 2017 No.17026617 >>17026592 If I were you I'd just give up and completely indulge in reading. If you still can't listen well after that long of a time it's 仕方がない. Books are superior anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:19:46 2017 No.17026627 >>17026354 こんにちは　and こんにちわ both sound same konnitiwa if you just pick the letter は　 you pronounce it ha though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:20:04 2017 No.17026628 >>17026617 I'm pretty sure I just need more listening practice, it's just that it's so slow and painful I can't bring myself to do it, don't know how people practice listening without going insane

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:23:48 2017 No.17026641 俺が英語のリスニング勉強するときは再生スピード変えたりして訓練してる。

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:29:31 2017 No.17026656 なんか俺の日本語も変になってきた

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:32:22 2017 No.17026668 So many fucking words and compounds aahhhhhhhh I want to die

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:39:18 2017 No.17026687 ハロージャパンネーズピッポル

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:45:31 2017 No.17026711 お前ら恥ずかしくないのか爆笑

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:46:55 2017 No.17026721 でもここって/jp/ - Otaku Cultureの一スレにすぎないわけだろ？いいじゃん居座ったって

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:47:04 2017 No.17026722 >>17026705 weve come to play onii chan lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:55:58 2017 No.17026771 >>17026762 ちょっｗｗｗｗやめっｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:56:35 2017 No.17026775 >>17026764 youtu.be/bARY2QkVLv4#t=17

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 14:56:47 2017 No.17026776 >>17026764 it says you guys are shy even though you are gaijin but react like japs.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:00:02 2017 No.17026786 >>17026775 I keep thinking that Japanese is not meant to be rapped like that. >>17026776 Thanks, that makes sense to me now. It sucks being a beginner.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:04:03 2017 No.17026806 こんにちは日本人達。僕は日本語を分からない。日本を行くのは欲しい。どうして？日本の女性を一発やる。

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:06:22 2017 No.17026817 >>17026806 一発じゃなく3発はやるべき

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:06:54 2017 No.17026820 >>17026806 なんだよｗｗｗｗｗｗｗあたまおかしいだろおまえｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:10:35 2017 No.17026835 過疎すぎるなここ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:11:34 2017 No.17026842 File: 161 KB, 472x599, 1409227424630.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kannst du auf deutsch sprechen, japanisch? Ich kann nicht

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:11:59 2017 No.17026844 >>17026835 こ↑こ↓

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:12:56 2017 No.17026852 >>17026842 Klar kann ich das. Was glaubst du wer wir sind? Deutschland ist unser engster Verbündeter damals und auf ewig.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:15:32 2017 No.17026867 >>17026854 これがホントの日本だ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:16:13 2017 No.17026871 >>17026858 おまえいうな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:16:57 2017 No.17026879 こいつらは2chからきたよねあっちのやつらはほとんどリア充じゃなかったっけ？気に食わねえ、さっさと帰れ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:17:26 2017 No.17026881 >>17026854 原油クソポストってなんや

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:18:51 2017 No.17026889 >>17026879 この排他性オタク特有だなある意味きちんと伝統を受け継いでいるといえる

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:20:43 2017 No.17026900 >>17026895 謝謝アミーゴ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:22:02 2017 No.17026905 >>17026854 >not filtering posts with Japanese characters

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:22:15 2017 No.17026907 >>17026879 They would be イキりオタク which is recently created meme term.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:23:09 2017 No.17026910 >>17026905 romanji bakari jan

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:24:03 2017 No.17026913 NO オタクじゃなくてただのニート

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:25:14 2017 No.17026925 だんだん車とガソリンスタンドと店と山を選ぶゲームがうまくなってきてるな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:25:49 2017 No.17026929 >>17026913 オタクじゃないなら暇で何をしてる？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:26:45 2017 No.17026933 >>17026905 I can feel my brain capacity expanding.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:27:21 2017 No.17026937 >>17026929 ２ｃｈ　ようつべ　ゲーム　読書だな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:27:24 2017 No.17026938 本物の日本語超怖いよあたしいじめないでください

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:28:36 2017 No.17026942 >>17026938 うるせえ童貞

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:32:51 2017 No.17026962 >>17026654 問題は時間より興味のほうだと思う。そもそも課程の小部分にすぎない科目を興味もなく試験だけのために勉強するばあい、実際に英語をよく分かるはずも願いもない。いっぽう趣味にかられて暇（しかもこのようのサイトを通うカスの豊かな暇）で日本語をわかるために言語を勉強するばあい、埒が明かないまま勉強をいつまでも続けることは困る。

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:33:07 2017 No.17026964 >>17026937 だめにんげんとしては、何かの反省あるか？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:34:10 2017 No.17026971 >>17026952 嘘つき

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:38:42 2017 No.17026997 >>17026976 マジで俺の友情を無視したかよそれが反省の一つだろう

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:40:10 2017 No.17027005 >>17026997 お前の友情なんてそんなもんかペッ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:40:23 2017 No.17027006 File: 168 KB, 545x329, japanese.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:43:31 2017 No.17027024 >>17027005 いや待ってなんで俺が悪い急に

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:45:32 2017 No.17027036 >>17027024 あんまりそういうのに答えてればゲイっていうし答えなければ無視すんなって言うしむずかしいところやねそれは

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:48:32 2017 No.17027048 >>17027036 ｄｊｔの住人は全員ホモだからOKです

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 15:48:46 2017 No.17027050 >>17027036 ゲイってなんだよ日本でブロマンスというもの存在してないか

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:09:18 2017 No.17027181 >>17027170 >所為お前、最高の初心者って知ってるぜ？

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:09:21 2017 No.17027182 Name a modern fiction writer harder than Mareni.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:11:37 2017 No.17027208 >>17027182 me i'm msuchg a bed writer th meaning ot what i write is coninrehansible

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:11:52 2017 No.17027212 >>17027182 Name two (2 (二)) worthwhile works of his

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:15:24 2017 No.17027233 who is mareni

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:17:05 2017 No.17027244 >>17027227 You must know more than google, because it sure couldn't find any

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:18:51 2017 No.17027254 おはようおにいちゃんおふろはいろ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:20:54 2017 No.17027266 >>17027254 「はいろう」といいたかったよね

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:22:56 2017 No.17027278 >>17027248 oh you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:24:22 2017 No.17027292 I don't know about you guys, but I made some major gains today

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:24:48 2017 No.17027294 おふろはいろでも正解だよ子供が甘えてるような言い方だおふろはいろうといえば真面目な感じが出る

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:27:05 2017 No.17027308 >>17027294 ちゃんと釣られたな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:29:02 2017 No.17027317 >>17027308 ん？これが釣り？どう意味で？だとすればほとんど病気だな

Anonymous Mon May 15 16:29:29 2017 No.17027323
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How can I get a random japanese person to pratice with, anyone with experienced with this? How did you get over your own autism? What is the minimal level to start practicing in this manner?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:30:06 2017 No.17027327 >>17027292 what gain?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:32:39 2017 No.17027342 >>17027317 そんなに日本語の下手やつがいるわけないだろうｄｊｔにも

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:32:56 2017 No.17027346 this world is taken over by some psychos

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:39:15 2017 No.17027372 >>17027354 いい加減にな

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:42:34 2017 No.17027393 >>17027372 どういう意味ですか？日本語がいい加減だなといってるのですかそれともいい加減にしろってこと？あなたの日本語はよくわかりません。

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:46:15 2017 No.17027404 >>17027393 おまえかなりばかですね

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:46:50 2017 No.17027406 >>17027404 お前よりましです

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:47:33 2017 No.17027408 >>17027323 If you're not normie enough for hellotalk then your best bet is to go hermit until you learn production on your own like me

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:50:49 2017 No.17027418 >天気はきれいで、よかったです。 >The weather is beautiful and good. >The weather is beautiful and I was happy. Which one is the proper translation for this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:52:22 2017 No.17027425 >>17027406 >The weather is beautiful and the pleasure of being cummed inside.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:52:36 2017 No.17027426 英語は喋って？私は日本語とても悪いそなわよね。。。

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:53:07 2017 No.17027430 >>17027418 >天気はきれいで、よかったです。 The weather is beautiful and good. >天気はきれいで、気持ちよかったです。 >The weather is beautiful and I was happy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:54:38 2017 No.17027441 >>17027418 Weather's good, lucky me literally: weather's good, that's good if it were past it would be でした

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 16:54:53 2017 No.17027443 なぜ、ふたばは漫画板がないのか

Anonymous Mon May 15 16:58:43 2017 No.17027458
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I've got some questions
What are the rules for using で and に when listing several things? I often see the first one used on adjectives and the latter when refering to several clothes a character is wearing.
Second: often, I see のも, but I rarely can squeeze the meaning out, I suppose it is の as in もの and も as in either or too, however, I'm still lost most times I see it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 17:42:45 2017 No.17027636 >>17027594 asking the important questions

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 17:55:34 2017 No.17027684 File: 152 KB, 943x510, Japanese the Manga Way.pdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17027458 This is not in Tae Kim, but it's covered by JTMW, the DoJG notes for と (1) and Imabi.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 18:01:22 2017 No.17027708 >自己主張が得意な女の子たちの中で、彼女が立っていられる場所はちゃんとあるのだろうかと、ときどき心配したりもする。 >自己主張が得意な女の子たちの中で Is that "Among women with self-assertion as a strong point"? As in, 自己主張が得意な modifies 女の子たち, rather than 自己主張が modifying 得意な女の子たち

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 18:04:40 2017 No.17027729 >>17027636 ほのめかしてる? I have no clue

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 18:36:10 2017 No.17027903 Anyone know a good way to watch NHKニュース7? NHK won't let me do their on demand service from overseas and youtube only has up to two weeks ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 18:39:43 2017 No.17027922 >>17027708 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 18:54:22 2017 No.17027995 >>17027849 Does anybody have access to that Cloze pack they have? I'm interested in seeing the content, it may be useful for an intermediate-advanced level if anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 19:01:41 2017 No.17028027 >>17027988 AbemaTVも日本だけで見られるようです。コピーライトはひどいな。

Anonymous Mon May 15 20:21:23 2017 No.17028456

>>17028420
It's so they can trick dumb foreigners into working for them with extremely low salaries. The average, non retarded person knows that, in order to live in a country, you must speak the official language at least at a basic level. Seeing EOPs ｃreate excuses about how they don't need to learn japanese in order to function properly in the japanese society and later complaining about how everyone treats them like a braindead foreigner is one of the most laughable things in existence.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 20:21:24 2017 No.17028457 >>17028420 it is dumb and most ppl are wise to it now teach english anywhere else

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 20:29:11 2017 No.17028493 >>17028420 The Japanese think that immersion is the best way to learn. Even if you know Japanese, you are only allowed to speak in English.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 20:30:34 2017 No.17028499 >>17028493 Well you are teaching English. What good is it if you don't use it?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 20:38:22 2017 No.17028523 >>17027594 >インプライーング

Anonymous Mon May 15 20:42:55 2017 No.17028536

>>17028509
I wouldn't advise you to take a mundane career like english teaching too seriously. See: Ryan Boundless. He's already mentally ill but his bad experiences in japan as an english teacher only made him worse. Truth is, english teaching is more like a step in order to give yourself more chances of attaining residency in Japan. Most companies like JET will probably just use you and then throw you away in order to welcome more hungry foreigners. And when you do get thrown away, or just get tired of the same teaching agenda, you'll have nowhere to go. Teaching english doesn't give you any valuable work experience. It's basically a dead end from there.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 20:56:55 2017 No.17028611 Does anyone have that mediafire link from years ago that had all of the nsfw asmr doujin voice recordings?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 15 23:30:26 2017 No.17029233 >>17028536 >>17028509 >>17028456 >>17029200 Do not teach English. Teach a STEM field!

Anonymous Tue May 16 00:27:15 2017 No.17029428

i'm trying to memorize some hard-ass names with kanji in anki, but it can't stick with me if i hit "again" and then "good", then forgetting about it in a couple minutes just to find the next day i didn't memorize it (i mean, it works in the looong run, but it takes a lot of time).

Can I achieve having more steps on already reviewed cards that are in the "again" pile? I want something like my steps on new cards (1 1 10 10 30).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 00:32:19 2017 No.17029444 >注文 >命令 Is there any difference?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 00:35:53 2017 No.17029457 >>17029444 注文 is order as in "to order a pizza" or "to order at a restaurant" 命令 is a command from a superior, usually something military. Your lord orders you to advance the army. At the restaurant the waiter will come up to you and ask you >ご注文は？

Anonymous Tue May 16 00:41:35 2017 No.17029474
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>>17029457
Thanks, anon.

>At the restaurant the waiter will come up to you and ask you ご注文は？
Not if you avoid all human contact and order through the ticket machine outside!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 00:46:11 2017 No.17029492 File: 80 KB, 488x444, dame.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17029483 >who's to say the 自動販売機 won't in a couple years from now? Absolutely horrible.

Anonymous Tue May 16 00:55:08 2017 No.17029513

>>17029435
i already write them, though not with the utmost care (especially the more complex ones).

Also, i got this same deck from ankiweb and it's not only super old, but also terribly organized (very mixed). I've thought of lurking for a good, curated deck (like core but for names), though it's too late for me (i'm 1/7 through).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 02:01:53 2017 No.17029652 「訪ねる」と「訪れる」はどう違いますか？

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 02:34:21 2017 No.17029783 >>17029652 たずねる　ask or search おとずれる　visit or come だから訪ねるの場合はまだ知らない土地に行くというニュアンスがあり、訪れるの場合はもうよく知ってる土地に行くことや春が訪れたなどの使い方もある

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 02:39:44 2017 No.17029801 >>17029688 >>17029783 なるほど。ありがとうございます！

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 02:49:21 2017 No.17029841 >>17029688 私も気になったことだ、わかりやすい説明ありがと

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 05:10:51 2017 No.17030260 Is there a list/chart somewhere of the most common "alternative furigana" (I don't know if there's a name for that)? Examples: 運命ーさだめ, 感染すーうつす, 膣ーなか.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 05:14:24 2017 No.17030273 >>17030260 https://core6000.neocities.org/furigana.txt

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 05:37:43 2017 No.17030359 If there are any 日本人 here please be my friend

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 05:50:02 2017 No.17030390 File: 40 KB, 752x318, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I interpret this?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 05:58:58 2017 No.17030422 How many new cards per day do people usually do to start? I feel like if I set it too high then I'll just be overwhelmed eventually but I think 50 is a fair number.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 06:19:46 2017 No.17030494 >>17030489 Well once you start learning Japanese you'll have a good head start.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 06:51:18 2017 No.17030616 >>17030489 I'm not an RTK hater but spending more than a year on it is tragic. You've done enough to get over your fear of kanji. Drop that shit and focus on reading/vocabulary.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 07:03:13 2017 No.17030660 >>17030647 いえす　いーじーつー　りーど

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 07:03:55 2017 No.17030665 >>17030647 The first one is Hanayome=bride

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 08:00:50 2017 No.17030863 >>17030665 And the second?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 08:10:10 2017 No.17030891 >>17030863 Use your damn head. It's clearly a Dragon Quest box art, and you got a name right after the (very common) kanji you're looking for.

Anonymous Tue May 16 08:19:40 2017 No.17030928

>>17030908
Back in the past I had a ton of sites saved but cannot remember them for the life of me now that I actually graduated.

My japanese is piss poor but i'd still like to try this out. Don't mean to spam the DJT but if anyone knows of any good recruiting sites/etc I could look at i'd appreciate it.

>>	Maki Tue May 16 08:20:07 2017 No.17030930 So im doing no internet in june completely so i can study Japanese and work on real life stuff. Whats every Japanese book grammar book i should read? Ive already read through most of them...

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 08:23:06 2017 No.17030936 >>17030930 Just read actual books then.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 08:24:11 2017 No.17030938 File: 28 KB, 600x583, 1494929165983.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't wanna do Anki today

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 08:30:05 2017 No.17030954 >>17030938 それなら、全裸で道端にガッツポーズをしろ

Anonymous Tue May 16 09:04:53 2017 No.17031065

>>17030489
Well, you'll definitely have a confident grip on the grammar when you first start out, with problems only arising when you get to very late intermediate things. For now I recommend learning kanji through words instead of individually, it's less efficient than doing them individually but it will get you more vocab and kanji faster. Remember to write them down and do lots of recall practice, this is VERY important.

Otherwise I'd recommend starting with Minna no Nihongo or Genki right away, unless there's something keeping you from dedicating 2-3 hours a day on studying that stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 09:42:52 2017 No.17031182 >tfw you're taking special classes on Japanese Archeology so you end up passively learning useless niche words like 遺伝子, 採集狩猟生活, 土器, 渡来系弥生人, 落葉広葉樹林

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 09:48:30 2017 No.17031200 >>17031182 >useless niche words >遺伝子 >採集 >狩猟 >生活 So you started learning Japanese yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 09:50:39 2017 No.17031206 >>17031189 Thanks Please subscribe >>17031200 Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 09:59:11 2017 No.17031231 >>17030647 天空の花嫁音楽　すぎやまこういち

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 10:24:23 2017 No.17031300 Trying to remember when big is "tai" or "dai" (and when it is not "big and great") really makes you think about the arbitrary character of Japanese sound readings.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 10:34:15 2017 No.17031339 When can I jump into reading stuff? I'm grinding vocab for about a week now. Around 250 words currently.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 10:35:19 2017 No.17031341 >>17031339 You should have started a week ago

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 10:39:37 2017 No.17031358 File: 520 KB, 1524x402, implying.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17027636 >>17027729 >>17028523 Found it. After several hours of searching, I found a Jap slang site that translates 4chan speak.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 11:24:37 2017 No.17031492 >>17031237 I wish I could devote more time but I just have too much shit to do. (Im studying computer science)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 11:26:10 2017 No.17031498 行きたくない買い物なんかただ遊びたい

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 11:26:52 2017 No.17031501 >>17031492 >(Im studying computer science) haha nerd

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 11:29:06 2017 No.17031508 >>17031501 r00d

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 11:41:11 2017 No.17031557 File: 14 KB, 275x275, 1494615362227.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 新しいスレを作った前に、面白い手応え顔見せてくれる‼

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 11:44:39 2017 No.17031573 >>17031557 何のために?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:21:18 2017 No.17032205 The duolingo incubator said it would be in its beta stage by May, 15 -- guess fucking what, it's now moved to the 18th. That is bullshit! I'm not going to use their course in protest of people who lie to your users! Get fucked!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:27:08 2017 No.17032227 >>17032205 You should not use it in protest of people who create normalfag-pandering gamified language courses.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:32:29 2017 No.17032242 What dictionary am I supposed to use for mining? How do I learn a word that has over 20 meanings?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:35:10 2017 No.17032253 >>17032246 The only good supplementary material is trying to read. There's no such thing as being unable to try to read.

Anonymous Tue May 16 14:40:59 2017 No.17032281

>>17031300
だい is 呉音 and たい is 漢音. 漢語 that are read with 呉音読み tend to originate in Buddhist scripture, while 漢音読み words were transmitted later through native Chinese literature.
Learning to which category a certain word belongs to is largely a matter of memorization, but I don't think it's right to call it completely arbitrary. Since it's not like they choose whether to use 呉音 or 漢音 at random.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:47:11 2017 No.17032313 >remember meaning but not pronunciation Do you Again the card when this happens?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:48:20 2017 No.17032318 >>17032253 Stop pushing this meme, reading without core2k is such a time sink that your time spent looking up basic words and forgetting them a few minutes later is far better spent on other studies

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:50:07 2017 No.17032327 >>17032324 >It's like it's a list of random top 10k words instead of the actual top 2k. Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:54:42 2017 No.17032344 >>17032322 Plenty of intermediates in this thread finished core6 before reading.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 14:56:11 2017 No.17032351 >>17032313 I press hard when I only slightly mess up the pronunciation, e.g. 濁点, reading 生 as せい instead of しょう. Otherwise, yeah.

Anonymous Tue May 16 14:56:24 2017 No.17032352

>>17032344
Fun fact: "intermediate" means "where I am right now", not "journeyman". If you literally memorize core6k before you start reading, you're going to be behind people that started reading at 1k words for a long, long time. You're probably not even going to catch up.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:00:05 2017 No.17032370 >>17032352 No shit retard, waiting to read is about not frustrating beginners, not about rushing through the language

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:00:56 2017 No.17032377 >>17032344 And not one of them has learned Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:02:01 2017 No.17032380 >>17032370 That's why you tell them "try to read" and not "read". Big difference.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:02:36 2017 No.17032385 >>17032370 Ankidroning is much more frustrating than looking at text you don't understand, at least if you don't have clinical self esteem issues.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:19:56 2017 No.17032458 When's someone going to make a new core, or at least reorder it in a way that's not based on newspapers?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:37:55 2017 No.17032538 >>17032509 No Go to ops link

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:40:10 2017 No.17032552 >>17032509 No. There will be weird constructions that you'll have to look up in other resources still.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:48:19 2017 No.17032586 >>17031065 Actually, the new anki update on phones allows you to draw on the screen, so you could use that instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:51:37 2017 No.17032601 >>17032594 Read it "from front to back".

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:52:23 2017 No.17032605 >>17032601 Righto

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:52:32 2017 No.17032608 >>17032594 Read through it once quickly and then start reading native material and refer back to it as necessary.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 15:53:55 2017 No.17032617 >>17032594 Just skim it bro

Anonymous Tue May 16 16:01:59 2017 No.17032649

>>17030489
This is kind of depressing to read. I've only been studying for 4 months and I can draw 850 Kanji from memory, know a bit over a thousand words and understand most basic grammar. I've spent a lot of that time studying though and in all likelihood my free time will be reduced to a fraction of what it is now in the near future. I hoped I could get all the 常用漢字 out of the way, like you so I can intensively focus on vocabulary and reading. Right now I learn to draw 8-20 Kanji a day (depending on how busy I am) and yes, my goal is to write so it's not a waste of time. My biggest fear is really to build up such a huge Anki load that I will not be able to do it in my reduced freetime (or it being the only thing I can do). It seems to me that unless you have a huge amount of free time, it really is impossible to learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:14:38 2017 No.17032696 >>17032594 >what's the best way to approach Tae Kim? With a ten foot pole.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:16:38 2017 No.17032705 >>17032649 Well Id rather learn japanese slowly then not at all. Dont give up hope. Youre basically in exactly the same situation as I was in some months ago. I find learning kanji really interesting even if it is ineffective.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:18:02 2017 No.17032711 >>17032685 Pls elaborate. How common are rare kanji in core vocab?

Anonymous Tue May 16 16:20:00 2017 No.17032725

>>17032711
Basically kanji aren't japanese. They're *just* a writing system. Learning kanji only removes one layer of alienness from japanese, it doesn't make it so you understand most of the words in what you read, neither by meaning nor pronunciation. Words are productive: you can learn words and you will intuitively understand what they mean when put together most of the time, except for in idioms etc. Kanji are not productive: knowing all the kanji does not make you intuitively understand what they mean or how they're pronounced when put together.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:23:10 2017 No.17032748 >>17032739 空港 is a compound word, not a word of its own written with kanji.

Anonymous Tue May 16 16:23:50 2017 No.17032751

>>17032676
I really don't like textbooks. I've started reading some basic things and it's going alright. I spent only a fraction of my time learning Kanji, otherwise I could probably learn to write 50 or so a day. Maybe I should even do that just to get them out of the way sooner. Yet I also think it's important to pace myself and to let old Kanji sink in as I don't have immediate vocabulary for all Kanji I learn (following KKLC but learning Kanji faster than words).

>>17032680
Which method is that? Learning to write Kanji? What is it ineffective for exactly?

>>17032685
Are you quoting me? I don't remember having said that. Anyway, KKLC covers 2300 Kanji and that'll be the majority of them. I'm learning to write all of those and the others I'll just remember by recognition.

>>17032705
Are you the poster I replied to? I'm doing quite a lot besides learning to draw Kanji y'know. I have revamped my learning method a couple weeks ago and now I'm learning 20-40 new words a day, acquiring new grammar every day and squeezing in what time is left to enjoy Japanese material. Basically my progress has been stunning (especially the last month after my revamp), but as I am reviewing everything I do in Anki (vocabulary, grammar, producing Kanji), I am left with the fear that it might end up too much when I'll start my occupation.

>>17032725
I see, so despite me having said that I do a lot more than learning to write Kanji, you automatically assume I do nothing but learn Kanji and therefore have no understanding of Japanese. I mean that has to be some sort of autism, no?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:29:00 2017 No.17032785 >>17032782 no u

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:35:52 2017 No.17032812 Does anyone here use HoneyViewer? Is it possible to keep it constantly at the zoom I set so it doesn't reset when I switch to the next page?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:39:00 2017 No.17032822 >>17032812 yes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:45:46 2017 No.17032839 >>17032674 >the new "complete" guide, which is incomplete This has pissed me off for years. I wish he would change the name so people would stop choosing it over the grammar guide.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:49:30 2017 No.17032858 >>17032844 Why? Tae Kim's grammar guide is fine, but people use the Complete(incomplete) one because of the name.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:50:26 2017 No.17032861 >>17032858 Yes, but if you make your own grammar guide, you won't have to direct people to Tae Kim at all.

Anonymous Tue May 16 16:52:54 2017 No.17032871

>>17032711
You're probably aware of the flaws in the jouyou list, and how some in it are quite rare and some out of it very common. Beyond that I guess it depends what kind of content you like, but if you read novels of any kind you're bound to come across an author at some point who likes to throw in a few cheeky irregular kanji here and there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 16:58:30 2017 No.17032902 >>17032896 one's cuter

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 17:04:17 2017 No.17032917 >>17032896 one makes you sound like a faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 17:22:35 2017 No.17032976 What exactly does it mean when a word is given the furigana of another word entirely? For example, 娘 having こas its furigana.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 17:26:01 2017 No.17032990 >>17032976 The kanji is what the speaker meant, furigana is what he or she actually said.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 18:05:08 2017 No.17033119 >>17033110 Maybe read even exactly one chapter of manga and you might find out

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 18:11:20 2017 No.17033139 >>17033119 If I wanted to read manga I would be doing that right now. I came here specifically because I wanted an answer, not to be told to look for it elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 18:12:59 2017 No.17033147 >>17033139 Your question is literally so basic that if you ever read anything you would know the answer.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 18:24:09 2017 No.17033189 >>17033187 You're good then.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 20:31:45 2017 No.17033873 僕は始めて日本人と話したけど、気まずくでした。やっぱり、日本語を喋るのは人格は変わらない。

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 20:42:12 2017 No.17033927 >>17033891 well I met with them to improve my production but that didn't happen

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 20:45:40 2017 No.17033952 >>17033927 Production practice is not all that necessary. Reading and listening a lot helps you develop a sense for what's correct (or at least common) Japanese and what's not.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 20:52:57 2017 No.17033989 >>17033952 This is true. I'm shit at expressing myself in Japanese beyond very basic stuff, but I can still tell when something is ungrammatical or sounds clunky.

Anonymous Tue May 16 22:52:12 2017 No.17034317

Baby's first reading attempt here, trying NHK News Web Easy because currently too poor to buy はなひらっ！　and I want to start with Rikaisama.

１４日、イギリスの男性のベルダン・ヘイズさんが１０１歳３８日でスカイダイビングをしました。

I cannot for the life of me figure out what the age/date (１０１歳３８日) is supposed to be referring to．

I don't plan to come here to ask you guys to translate all the shit I can't figure out or nothing, but what resource can I use to work something like this out myself? People in the thread say to start reading right away, so that's what I'm doing, but it seems difficult this way.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 22:59:23 2017 No.17034339 >>17034317 101 years old plus 38 days

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 22:59:54 2017 No.17034342 >>17034339 I got that part, I just can't understand what that time refers to

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 23:01:04 2017 No.17034348 >>17034342 the age at which he went skydiving

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 23:01:47 2017 No.17034349 >>17034339 >>17034342 >>17034317 Fuck me nevermind I'm retarted, I watched the video for the article and figured it out

Anonymous Tue May 16 23:01:58 2017 No.17034351

>>17034342
歳 is years old
On the 14th day, english male XXXX ..... 101 years old plus 38 days .... went skydiving

You should be able to put stuff together like this. You're trying too hard to understand how the individual parts build up to the greater meaning. Don't do that. If the greater meaning is obvious, you should simply observe that the smaller parts build up to it. Your brain will do the rest.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 23:06:39 2017 No.17034357 >>17034351 >>17034348 Thank you for the advice.

Anonymous Tue May 16 23:20:10 2017 No.17034388
File: 401 KB, 840x1200, img000001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

There's a manga called お酒は夫婦になってから

And the english title is alcohol is for married couples

How does になってから mean for here?
I know in english it can almost make sense due to the phrase "becoming of" e.g. Alcohol is very becoming of for couples

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 23:28:28 2017 No.17034426 >>17034388 Alcohol is after becoming a married couple

>>	Anonymous Tue May 16 23:44:35 2017 No.17034472 >>17032313 i got this but backwards (i hit good)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 01:54:33 2017 No.17034849 >>17034388 「お酒は20歳になってから」というのはよく使われる言葉でその後に続く言葉をつなげてみれば「お酒は20歳になってからのみましょう」になる。だからお酒は夫婦になってからという言葉はお酒は夫婦になってからのもうという意味。なってから＝なったあと

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 02:31:51 2017 No.17034954 >>17034317 >falling for the hanahira meme kek, what are you doing dude

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 02:36:27 2017 No.17034971 >>17034954 I literally have no fucking idea what I'm doing Was that not obvious? Should I clarify? I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. Help.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 03:04:33 2017 No.17035062 >>17035034 エロゲ (visual novel) ラノベ (light novel)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 03:59:35 2017 No.17035189 >>17035168 はい！そうなのです

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 04:28:08 2017 No.17035261 >>17035241 What "covers most bases" is actually reading content instead of going down lists like a robot you dumb Ankidrone.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 05:06:28 2017 No.17035357 I just finished Daitoshokan and I was wondering where to go to next for my next VN. What would you guys recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 05:20:22 2017 No.17035409 >>17035401 Just read. Don't do levels below N1, waste of time and money.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 05:20:53 2017 No.17035411 >>17035266 Try googling 言われよう

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 05:25:11 2017 No.17035437 >>17034849 >２０歳になってからでないと酒税を納めることができませんだよせいかくにはね

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 05:46:10 2017 No.17035522 File: 1.95 MB, 1282x745, BGI_2016-06-05_20-16-22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17035357 Who was your favourite girl?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 06:10:53 2017 No.17035597 >>17035522 Ureshino and Tamamo were great. >>17035362 What are you specifically looking for?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 06:55:45 2017 No.17035698 >>17035597 Very fine taste. Ureshino -> I recommend Natsukuru. Tamamo -> go AoKana.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 07:46:59 2017 No.17035800 File: 342 KB, 768x1024, 1495018329290.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Studies have a shown a direct correlation between seeing the snake and being able to learn Japanese. Find out now whether you can learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 07:49:51 2017 No.17035810 >>17035800 Why would you even bring retarded Twitter viral garbage into this thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 07:52:23 2017 No.17035818 >>17035810 日本語で書き込んでよかったかな

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 11:40:23 2017 No.17035952 >>17035937 燕雀鴻鵠読書三余

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 11:42:49 2017 No.17035961 >>17034958 It's A Frequency Dictionary of Japanese. Completely different data set.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 11:45:42 2017 No.17035971 Is there any good reason to use Anki over Skritter Japanese if money is not an issue?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 11:46:34 2017 No.17035975 >>17035971 Open source, supported by community tools, easier to get help, flexible, stable, used by the medical community (so you know it works).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 11:52:16 2017 No.17035990 >>17035971 Absolutely not.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 11:53:53 2017 No.17035998 >>17035971 I mean there is absolutely no reason to use anything but Anki.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 12:39:56 2017 No.17036124 >>17035952 >燕 >嚥下 Interesting that swallow the bird and swallov the verb are associated in both English and Japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 12:46:21 2017 No.17036151 Anybody have 狐笛のかなた in azw3 format?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 12:48:16 2017 No.17036160 Is せんか an abbreviation of するか?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 12:53:14 2017 No.17036169 >>17036165 Is there a website that shows all of the common abbreviations? I have a hard time when I try to google the answer for this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 12:54:16 2017 No.17036172 >>17036169 yea it's called justfuckingread.uretard

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 12:57:11 2017 No.17036183 >>17036172 That's probably what he did, just without having understood the first thing in grammar. You are actually supposed to somewhat understand at least the most basic things before reading y'know?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:01:19 2017 No.17036197 >>17036169 http://www.kansaiben.com/9.Index/2index.html

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:02:27 2017 No.17036203 >>17036192 The problem isn't that you don't understand everything, it's that you understand nothing. Typical DJT cult faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:03:16 2017 No.17036205 >>17036203 See >>17034351 >If the greater meaning is obvious, you should simply observe that the smaller parts build up to it. Your brain will do the rest.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:05:57 2017 No.17036218 こんにちは

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:21:44 2017 No.17036274 Why does JMDICT not have こ as a reading of 娘? It seems to be quite widely used, surely it ought to have been recognized by now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:22:52 2017 No.17036279 >>17036274 Whatever rikaisama uses includes it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:35:18 2017 No.17036328 >>17036287 This is actually the worst, most wrong post written in djt ever.

Anonymous Wed May 17 13:38:42 2017 No.17036336

Does anyone remember the name of that site where it just takes whatever is in your clipboard and automatically pastes it onto the page?

It was useful for reading VNs with chiitrans because the texthooker would automatically copy the text and then it was displayed in firefox.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:41:40 2017 No.17036344 >>17036279 Are you sure? Mine certainly doesn't

Anonymous Wed May 17 13:52:37 2017 No.17036385

>>17036299
Haven't you had times when you just have no idea what a particular phrasing in Japanese means despite formally understanding the grammar and the words?

>>17036328
I guess I am spectacularly gifted in gleaning the syntactical meaning from parallel translations.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 13:54:12 2017 No.17036391 >>17036385 The only thing you're gifted in is deluding yourself into thinking you're actually learning anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:08:33 2017 No.17036452 >>17036448 I guess it's just me that mega is bugged for? It just keeps loading over and over saying "requesting folder data"

Anonymous Wed May 17 14:09:04 2017 No.17036456

>>17036447
Critical thinking doesn't mean "solve puzzles". Critical thinking means "stop assuming what you're assuming and stop being a retard".

>unhelpful

I never said it was unhelpful. I said parallel translations are usually garbage. There's a very big difference. If there really was a good parallel translation out there for everything you wanted to read, go for it. But that's not how reality works. Whatever translation exists for what you want to read is going to be pure garbage. Period.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:10:36 2017 No.17036465 >>17036452 It was doing that to me a while ago. Try a different browser.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:22:51 2017 No.17036508 I downloaded 聲の形 and さよなら絶望先生 from the CoR but they're both corrupted and I can't extract them. Would anyone be willing to re-upload them?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:25:26 2017 No.17036521 >>17036508 Notify the site maintainer through the feedback form. I would upload them for you but my internet is terrible, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:30:19 2017 No.17036539 >>17036508 What archiver are you using?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:42:34 2017 No.17036594 >>17036539 WinRAR. >>17036578 I meant volumes, not chapters.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 14:47:28 2017 No.17036603 >>17036465 Happens in every browser weirdly

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 15:07:41 2017 No.17036615 Working fine on Firefox, too, even though I asked about the very same thing a few days ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 15:11:08 2017 No.17036617 Where can I get Japanese subtitles for the Koe no Katachi movie?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:01:46 2017 No.17037190 >ご自分の不幸をお呪いくださいませ Is this an expression? It makes no sense to me

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:09:13 2017 No.17037225 >>17037190 What doesn't?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:14:06 2017 No.17037245 >>17037225 >お呪いくださいませ That part of it. I can't figure out if he's cursing him or if he's sarcastically wishing him luck. The context is that he says it to someone right after betraying them.

Anonymous Wed May 17 17:27:53 2017 No.17037337 [DELETED]

Can anyone rate my dialog? Sorry for no Kanji.

B: Hajimemashite. Brice-desu
S: Hajimemashite. Shawn-desu
B: Doozo yoroshiku (holds out hand)
S: Doozo yoroshiku (shakes hand).
B: Eigo wo hanashimasu ka?
S: Hai. hanashimasu. Nani jin desu-ka?
B: American jin desu.
S: Watashi mo
B: (rising tone) Soo desu ka? Shyushin wa?
S: <hometown>-desu. Anata Wa?
B: <hometown>-desu. (pause to look around) ii o tenki desu ne?
S: Soo desu ne. Nansai desu-ka?
B: Ju-Ku sai desu. Watashi wa san gatsu-desu.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:31:57 2017 No.17037368 >>17037337 nippongo jouzu desu arimasu ne

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:36:06 2017 No.17037388 >>17037245 Rethink the を particle. That's where your confusion comes from.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:36:31 2017 No.17037393 "xD" https://www.google.com/search?q=B:+Hajimemashite.+Brice-desu+S:+Hajimemashite.+Shawn-desu+B:+Doozo+yoroshiku+(holds+out+hand)+S:+Doozo+yoroshiku+(shakes+hand).+B:+Eigo+wo+hanashimasu

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:36:58 2017 No.17037397 >>17037337 very good! I grade it an A Parasu!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:39:04 2017 No.17037410 >>17037337 For some reason I now want a Japanese transcript of that Britney Spears gif

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:40:31 2017 No.17037418 >>17037393 Can we ban the faggot that keeps posting shit from reddit here? This isn't even the first time.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:58:08 2017 No.17037459 Hi /djt/. Sorry for potential dumb question, but how long did it take for any of you before you had a vague understanding of what was being said by Japanese people?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 17:58:31 2017 No.17037463 >>17037459 a month

Anonymous Wed May 17 18:11:26 2017 No.17037523

>>17037505
I think I'm just doing a poor job wording my question.

I speak English as a second language, and though I regard my English vocabulary to be absolutely appalling, I can still comprehend all of which I'm being told.
Do you think that translates into Japanese to some extent? Are you better at understanding what you're being told, than speaking the language itself?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 18:12:11 2017 No.17037528 >>17037523 It translates into every language. You can't say something you don't understand, and you can understand things you can't say.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 18:27:48 2017 No.17037621 How is 名取 an actual name? Fucking hilarious

Anonymous Wed May 17 18:27:54 2017 No.17037624

>>17037388
Is he asking him to curse his fate/misfortune of working in the navy at this time? This is the full sentence

>この時期に海軍長官を勤めているご自分の不幸をお呪いくださいませ

I think I was overlooking how を works in this sentence because "please curse your misfortune" sounded kind of nonsensical and I thought I must have been misreading it.

Anonymous Wed May 17 18:49:56 2017 No.17037756

>>17037624
Why the hell are you posting half-sentences here in the first place? Context is posting the FULL sentence, as well as multiple lines surrounding the sentence. The meaning in that completely changed now as the phrase before it is modifying the 自分.

It should be extremely obvious from the context that you alone have, but that is a response to the 長官 most likely complaining about something in the previous line. In a "don't blame yourself/me/other, blame your bad luck" way.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 17 19:21:18 2017 No.17037971 >>17034849 なるほど。お説明ありがとう。

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