Vocaloid Thread

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General info, essentials and download links in the Miku Monday copypasta:
http://pastebin.com/PB3dTd4Q

Crossfades google drive:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6drFCl6uqFyfkhZcHJxN1F3RHZFajlkaVRfU05PdmJ0aWduTnpud3dqN3gxNUtFT3pMeUk&usp=sharing

If you're looking for a specific song or album, try searching on vocadb.net (for reference) or mikudb.moe (for downloads)

Link to MikuDB Discord: https://discord.gg/nnmGzrj

Project Diva pastebin http://pastebin.com/BsD5G6Ey

Pastebin: mass-tagging albums with vocaDB
https://pastebin.com/T893zqg8

[Anonymous No.]

Things seems faster.

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>>16934851
Yup, these threads are flying by. It's really nice to see compared to the 2-3 posts a day these used to get a few months ago.

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>>16934866
Few months ago huh...

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I have two questions:

1. Are Japanese concert BDs region protected? I heard most Japanese BDs are not, but I don't really know.

2. How did you burguerclaps convinced Japan to share your same region for BD? Things were nicer when Japan and Europe shared the same DVD region.

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>>16930468
So according to this there's only two pure Mikufags; one guy whom I assume are Waifuanon, and myself.
That's bewildering to say the least, I thought we would be in the majority. Hey maybe Vocaloid really is dying.

We'll just have to count for thrice as many people.

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GYARI made it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siIE8i48hlg
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31111156

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>>16934955
Why does it matter? You've been able to hack video players and bypass region lock on pc since, I don't know, 2007? Just buy it if you want it.

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>>16933188
Why does Yukari have so much lewd? It's not like her official design is particularly lewd.

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>>16935016
The more pure, the more satisfying to corrupt

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>>16935016
Maybe Yukari just generally attracts the wrong kind of people?
SmugLuka.wav

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>>16934966
There were like 70 posters in the last thread, and like 10 people answered the question. Most people's favorite is definitely Miku, but people who are more vocal about their favorites are just more likely to reply to this kind of question.

So it might mean Miku fans here are less enthusiastic about their fandom, but it doesn't mean they aren't in the majority.

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>>16934835
The art in the OP has been pretty good as of late

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>>16935016
I'm theorizing that a vocaloid with an appealing design but few songs released will have a higher lewd ratio. It's not that she has a super high amount of lewd, it's that there's less non-lewd art to balance it. This would also explain why Luka has a higher ratio. People like her, but she has fewer songs to draw non-lewd art of.

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>>16935016
She's 18.

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>>16935105
Didn't realize vocaloid fans were into grannies.

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>>16935116
ok pedo-san

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>>16935116
Poor MEIKO, she must be a mummy for you

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>>16935133
>mummy
Dude, she wasn't burried in a pyrimad. She's not that old.

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>>16935133
It sounds silly, but people have said they can't jack off to Teto because she's thirty.

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>>16935077
I also said "according to", I know it's not a valid observation, but I don't really mind either way. Just took me by surprise.

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>>16935116
I love this old hag.

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>>16934966
I mean I like to identify as a Miku fag but every once in a while teto is brought up.

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Just came in today! This is actually my first vocaloid figure, it was kind of an impulse buy I guess. But damn, it looks great! I could definitely see this being the start of a slippery slope... I hope my wallet can take it

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>>16935158
That's silly. Teto's sexy ice cream holder tails are more than enough to blow a load regardless of any other attribute.

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>>16935491
Only the most plebeian of faggots wouldn't fuck this granny.

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>>16935491
>>16935511
Buddies I think you got the wrong thread, the Utau thread is two blocks down.

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>>16935539
Fuck you.

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>>16935539
Please don't start that shit. We don't want the mods to kick us to /mu/ or something.

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>>16935158
I can't jack off to Teto because she's ugly and a dummy

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>>16935744

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>>16935707
/jp/ has mods?

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>>16935844
Mods are sitewide. The ones from /a/ will follow us here and kick us while we're down.

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>>16935707
>kick us to /mu/
Not even posting the most hardcore porn of Miku would justify a punishment that severe

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Miku
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31103265
New song, but it kinda has a vintage vibe

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Wtf, Kaito is cute today.

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>>16935838
Don't worry Teto, you still have me I guess

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>>16936089
>New song
Does it have a MikuDB entry yet?

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>>16936089
God damn that was boring.

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>>16936228
>That pic
My mind is full of fuck

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>>16936089
spoopy

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>>16936255
THE BAWKA TEAM

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>>16936262
Do people still use MikuDB? I thought it deaded.

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>>16936228

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>>16936341
Pretty sure he meant VocaDB

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For some reason, lately I've been more and more attracted to the idea of Miku doing sports. Don't ask me, I don't understand myself. They'll make me very happy if they choose Miku to represent the Olympics.

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>>16936461
>I don't understand myself
You grew up and with it followed appreciation and taste for the finer arts. You've ascended.

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>>16936371
No, I meant what I said. But nm right now, I'm trying to beat Audacity into working right for the nth time.

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>>16936354

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>>16936461
I have my doubts about Miku representing the Olympics. There are sadly more recognizable, extensive and influential figures than our little blue haired robot.

I do however have high hopes for her participating in the opening ceremony, that would be pretty awesome.

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>>16936493
If liking girls that look like men is "ascended", then I'm fine with being normal.

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>>16936662
Do you know what actual men look like or is this really shitty bait

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>>16937028
I know what little girls look like and they don't look like that. Looks more like a man than a woman, that's for sure.

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>>16936662
>>16937028
>>16937032
>Oh look is this thread again

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Kabuki Miku stream starts in five hours. http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv293011846

There will be some vocaloid DJ stuff, if you are interested. Starts in three hours.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv294313564

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>>16937055
So many events and concerts... this year we're having an over saturation of Miku. I love it.

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>>16936354
>>Flower IA

Nice idea.

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I got a fortune cookie today that says look to the next month for a pleasant surprise, so I'm pretty sure that means I'm gonna win the gaijin lottery. Good news for you guys is that my application was for 2 tickets and I don't have any friends.

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>>16937221
I got one today that said I would take someone's good fortune.

Good news is that I also have no friends

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>>16937221
take me anon ;_;

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>>16935300
And I love her too.

Don't know if this is the proper place to ask but whathever. Does anybody here who lives went to Japan knows a store where I can buy Luka figures? Or some not-so-cheap merchandise? By that I mean, things like good figures, not chibis, just things like Figma min. Thanks and have a Luka cherering for you.

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>>16936951
Could this be...
a YUKARI-GAME?!

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>>16937981
There were a few more gifs but they all looked like a work in progress

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>>16937981
Yukari already has a game, it's called Minecraft.

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>>16938002
This one has a better feel to it.

>>16938011
If Minecraft is her game, then she has a LOT of games.

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>>16938014
She is also the host of a cooking show. Is there anything she can't do?

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>>16938014
That one isn't from any kind of game though

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>>16938023
Need to go deeper.

>>16938038
Aw...

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https://youtu.be/1YsJgcq-xUA
https://youtu.be/vskSu0GWvL0
https://youtu.be/pboSVYI6Zt0
Which spaghetti song is your favorite?

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>>16938388
Oster Project's

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>>16938388
I don't care much for any of them, they're kind of garbage in my opinion.

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>>16938425
You talking shit about OSTER?

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>>16938609
but I said it was my favourite?

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>>16938614
How very dare you. You take that back right now.

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>>16938646
No
They're still my favourite

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>2 thousand and 17 years after the born of our lord Jesus Christ
>Still using the V2 artwork

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>>16938743
There's still hope. People understand the original designs were the best.

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>>16938743
You have a problem with OG Miku? You polluted, crummy secondary.

I bet you'd rather have the generic Ixima shit than based Kei watercolour.

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>>16938780
>you'd rather have the generic Ixima shit than hipster KEI
Anytime.

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>>16938877
Would you a Miku

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>>16938989
To adore and indulge her? Yes, I would.

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>>16938877
Look at this auxiliary fan, jumping ship the moment some generic moe keki desu artist makes a Miku as unoriginal as himself. He can't even appreciate and love the authentic. I hope Luka beats the living garbage out of you.

I bet you also played Higurashi without the classic ryukishi art and posts Touhou without playing the games. Sad!

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>>16939065
>posts Touhou without playing the games.
Haha jokes on you, I never post Touhous. I fap to the doujins though

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Anyone have a nice playlist?

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>>16938989
I want to fix up Miku's tie!

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>>16938388
Kurage's (cuz Rin is perfect and I love her)

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See something you like, anon?

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>>16940327

That blue Miku looks nice if a bit too big for a keychain.

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>>16940359
>Actually using a merchandising keychain
You leave it in the seal forever

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>>16940363
No
You buy two; one to leave in the packaging in pristine condition, and one to actually use.

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>>16940327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS72gsjstWE

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>>16934982
Oh wow, guess I didn't see it in my subscriptions, thanks senpai.
There a witty joke here, somewhere

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>>16940321

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How do i get good at the game? I play in and out since future tone release and i got comfortable in hard, but the first 8* that comes around in extreme makes me sweat bullets just to clear it.

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>>16940627
The same way you get good at any game: Get good.

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>>16940627
>how do I get good at repetitive action
You just gotta fucking do it, anon.

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>>16940595

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>>16940595
But I wanna be more than friends ;_;

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This is a yearly reminder that KAITO did nothing wrong.

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>>16940783
I agree. This man deserves love.

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>>16940783
>the Rodney Dangerfield of Vocaloid
Everything went wrong.

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>>16940783
Kaito was the sole reason everything went as it did, too bad he didn't die as he deserved.

And what a good friend Luka was. This song is pure pain and I hate it.

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>>16940811
>And what a good friend Luka was.
This. Luka is the one to blame yet she was the only one to not end injured.

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>>16940811
>And what a good friend Luka was
Especially when she was lamenting and reminiscing about the time they were friends, then pretty much went "huh, better fuck your betrothed again"

>>16940825
Miku was just an idiot, you're supposed to kill everyone and then yourself. Let your heart be hardened, they aren't worth the oxygen they inhale.

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>>16940844
What if she wanted Luka to bear with the remorse the rest of her life? Nah, you're right, Miku is pretty stupid.

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>>16940891
>implying Luka feels any remorse
Miku was the only one who lost in this stupid garbage and she did nothing to deserve it, yet REact is willing to jump through hoops to validate that she was the one to blame.

These songs are made for fucking psychos. God damn do I hate it.

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>>16940659
What's her amazing secret

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>>16940595
>>16940655
Story mode was a mistake.

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>>16940983
They are keeping them pure.

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Yes please

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>>16940983
It really was. I hate being this semi omnipotent third wheel interacting with them as if they were in a doll house. I'd much rather see Sega do something else with the characters.

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>>16940983
It's really not. It's a cute addition and it's more fun than just interacting with menus

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If I want to make a vocaoid remix, have the instrumental of the song, but need someone to help me with the vocaloid software to create the acapella, is there a forum I could go to find someone to help me?

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>>16938388
Definitely N.

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>>16941147
There's plenty of places to beg for a vocaloid wav file but you won't get anything worth quality from westerners.

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>>16940973
I don't know anon, I don't know <3

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How does experience work in FT? I got orange 39, but my blue is 38 and I just perfected three blue songs in a row and it didn't budge an inch. At this point, I've perfected every blue from 6*-8*, and I'm not sure I can ever perfect the harder ones.

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>>16941310
I'm pretty sure it's meaningless. 39 is a good point to stop trying to raise them.

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>>16941335
Well, considering 39 is the level cap, I'd say that's also a good point to stop

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>>16941310
If you got excellent or perfect on a song in extreme then you won't get any more experience from that song by playing/perfecting it in hard or below.

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>>16941348
Is it? I need to get good.

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>>16941248

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>>16941352
I only play extreme. I tried doing the harder hards but they don't raise my level either. I wonder if I'm bugged or something.

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>>16941399
>I tried doing the harder hards but they don't raise my level either
Did you have any grades for those songs in Hard/Extreme/Extra Extreme before playing them?

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>>16941455
Only Cs. I only have a couple E/P ranks over 9*.

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>>16941358
sit and think for a few moments why it stops at 39

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Oh, so they are selling 10th anniversary pillows.

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Not slutty at all.

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Come watch Kabuki.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv293012429

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>>16942701
Is there any way to make that 'other angle' window at the bottom go away?

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>>16942732
move it to the comments I guess.

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>>16942739
thanks

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>>16942701
Wow Miku's voice sounds high and forced as fuck.

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>>16942701
What the fuck am I watching

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>>16942751
Agreed, then again she was never meant to talk in the first place.

I am thoroughly enjoying this however, even if I have zero clue what the fuck is happening.

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I saw drills

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Are Nico cameras this bad, or do they add chromatic aberration to their streams?

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>>16942753
Same
I have no idea what's going on but at least it's nice to watch.

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初音屋！

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>>16942761
８８８８８８８８８８８８８８

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This looks so manly and gay at the same time. How it is possible?

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>>16942770
Because Japan is really good at that

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FUCKING TETO

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A cute Teto appears

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Suddenly ninjas!

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This is godlike.

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I don't know what the fuck is going on but I would enjoy so much to be there

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Ok, now I'm tripping balls

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It's turning into an episode of Dragon Ball Z

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It's like a 17th century movie of Jackie Chan

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That was the best anime fight I've ever, ever seen. Nothings ever gonna top this.

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MIKU NOOOO

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Are NND comments bringing him back to life?

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>>16942831
Looks like.

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Ok, that was amazing in a unique sense. Also, the next guy tells me Miku is dying will taste the flavour of my shoe.

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Today I learned something: Kabuki actors don't really look at each other, but to the public in a sort of primitive close up emulation. It makes so much sense but I never thought it before.

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>>16942861
Western theatre actors do that as well to some degree.

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This was legendary, thoroughly enjoyable and intense.

>>16942852
>Also, the next guy tells me Miku is dying will taste the flavour of my shoe
This.

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>>16942852
she was literally burning in the flames though

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well, considering every actor was forcing a strange way of speech, the others don't sound as weird now.

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>>16942881
I think that's the point, everyone has to come off as slightly pompous for added drama.

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これは！

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>>16942890
Teto was the last one I was expecting to appear here.

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>>16942896
Me too but it was a nice surprise.

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>>16942896
She was advertised http://www.chokaigi.jp/2017/booth/cho_kabuki.html

This was really awesome, I hope they do something like this again.

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>>16942852
>>16942871

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>>16942935
She was able to use a sword pretty well while dying.

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They must be making a fucking fortune from Miku fans during this nico conference, holy shit.

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>>16942956
I wish I were there to give them money also.

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>>16942968
I also wish you were there to give them money, myself included. You know, the 'money' part.

I will always be jelly of the Japanese, god damnit.

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>>16942968
>>16942991
You guys were watching as premium members, right?

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>>16942992
no

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>>16942997
So much for integrity.

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>>16942992
I never understood the analogy behind a subscription for what is essentially just another Youtube.

So to get the good edition you have to buy it, despite the fact that they already get money from ads. It's so weird and kind of shady.

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>>16943010
I agree about the ads.
There shouldn't be any for paying customers, save for maybe the amazon links at the bottom, those don't bother me.

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>>16942852
>>Miku is dying

Once the IA gets mass produced...

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>>16943019
Not only is it a paid service, it's a subscription based service, just to allow you to watch past broadcasts and potential high quality. It's the skeeziest shit.

>>16943033
Who?

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>>16943066
>>Who?

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Why is Miku making a white power hand sign?

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>>16943787
It's a sign of robot supremacy, VOCALOIDs don't really have races.

Do you think they would let me be Miku's personal slave if I betray my kind?

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>>16943820
>VOCALOIDs don't really have races
Instead they're divided into factions and tribes.
CEVIOLOIDS
GET OUT OF MY THREAD

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>>16943922
>Cevioloid
>Utauloid

so stupid
it's almost like basing the other races on white
>blackite
>yellowite

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my sides
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24603567

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>>16944186
Except "white" isn't a race and the nomenclature for races does work that way; Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, so Vocaloid fits in nicely. Or maybe it would make more sense for the fourth race to be Android and then you could have your vocaloid, voiceroid, utauloid subsets

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UgFDf3IaAg

What the fuck do these lyrics even imply?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1DXFYoFtM8

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>>16944947
Crover crub da beautifur rub~

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>>16944947
It's a recipe for a Clover Club Cocktail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clover_Club_Cocktail

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This is the song that won the Magical Mirai 2017 music contest: http://piapro.jp/t/Hxk-

I assume it will be the first song to be played, as was 39 Music last year.

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>>16945149
Doesn't sound like the appropriate successor to 39, but maybe it's not fair to compare this guy to the sasakire.uk DECO*27 supergroup

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>>16945184
"39 Music" != 39

I was referring to the first song of Magical Mirai 2016

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>>16945149
>this is the best Miku could get for Magical Mirai 2017
>on her 10th anniversary
Well, It's not terrible, but it's not great either. It's just kind of acceptable, and generic, and dull.

I wonder if they had problems with applications as well and this guy's song was the only one that got through.

>>16945184
God I hated that song.

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>>16945193
I know what you were referring to, but 39 was the specially commissioned 5th birthday celebration song, and this one is for her 10th birthday, so I think they should be comparable. Unless they're also planning another special birthday song, which I guess they could be doing, but that would really steal the contest winner's thunder.

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>>16945206
Meh. I don't think I've ever really liked any of those contest songs, or any of the concert "themes" for that matter.

Remember when they played Sharing the World on Letterman instead of a good song because it was the "Miku Expo Theme"? Yeah

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>>16945356
That entire event was terrible

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>>16945149
Sounds like discount kz.

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>>16945356
Sharing the World is really good live, though, I don't know if you've seen it love or not, it's hard to explain. Like I skip it a lot if it comes up on my music player because English Miku is so bad, but on the last chorus, there's a little pause between the "sharing the" and "world" that still gives me goosebumps just thinking about it.
It's like being on Willie Nelson's tour bus.

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>>16945356
That was legendary. I hope Miku will participate in the opening ceremony in 2020 for that single reason, just to watch Crypton pull such atrocious and shocking garbage once again and proceed to spill their spaghetti, and not just in front of the continental USA, but the entire world.

I want to experience the collective wince once again on stream and this time be able to watch the faces of my friends as they have zero clue what the fuck is happening.

Watching as Miku's shrill voice pierces the veil with "SSSSHEEAAARING THA WO-O-O-O-O" in front of those poor, confused and baffled pensioners made me feel more alive than ever.

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>>16945356
Vocaloid music is in general pretty terrible.

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>>16945453

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>>16945453
It is... If you only listen to GUMI.

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>>16945492
>>16945572
You know that guy around here who sometimes goes, 'most songs released today are terrible'? That's me raised in tenth exponent. I just believe most songs have been terrible since the beginning.

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http://archive.is/53y4t

Every day we grow ever closer to truly being one with Miku.

I can't wait for the AR/VR future when the real world can fall out of place.

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>>16945626
Just out of plain curiosity, what are you doing here if you don't like the music? A good chunk of vocaloid content produced is music.

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>>16945675
this is /jp/, the official board of secondaries. What do you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

can you disable some of the lewd images on the loading screen in future tone?

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>>16945626
What's your favorite music like? I feel like pop is the only genre that has been covered really well by the Vocaloid scene.

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Honeslty, I feel like the only one here who actually likes the song that won. Sure, it's not perfect or anything, but it's quite nice, and this producer's stuff is pretty neat too.

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>>16945749
...aren't the only options for loading screens in Future Tone the stock silhouette ones and then screenshots YOU took?

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>>16945781
Eh? Really? Pretty much every gameplay video I've seen as some sort of lewd one during the loading screen...
its downloading right now so i dont know

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>>16945637
I admire his dedication, and the work he has made is definitely impressive, but I've never been quite the fan of the idea of indulging in a give-up machine and be content with that. I'd much rather see actual non-organic intelligence and Self-consciousness be established and for Miku to gain an existance. Something I can feel.

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>>16945793
>I admire his dedication, and the work he has made is definitely impressive
Definitely. The stuff he did before the Hololens was impressive, and now that he has superior technology it's even more impressive.

>but I've never been quite the fan of the idea of indulging in a give-up machine and be content with that
Give up machine is fine with me, in part because it will certainly come faster than the non-organic intelligence and self-consciousness (far further away, and further still if it were to be applied to a perhaps then-"old" figure like Miku).

I admire your yearning for something real and tangible, but I'm fine with something that's only real "in my head", as it would be with AR/VR. That's where I've lived most of my life anyway.

Regardless, be it AR/VR or AI and robots, the idea of a "real" Miku or IA, or Luka is the brightest future I can think of

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>>16945637
Burenai Ai De is a cute song choice for that video.

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31123010

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>>16945224
This isn't supposed to be the theme song, it just won the contest and will be included in the tracklist but it's not like the main song or anything.

This year's song is the new commissioned Hachi song playing here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn91vqkBDdQ

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WHat are the chances of the West getting another Miku Expo, or some other concert, by next year or so?

I'm addicted after I went last year, but I just don't have the funds or the time to make it to Nipland to see Miku.

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>>16946738
39 wasn't a theme song either. What I'm saying is someone has to make basically 39 pt 2. Whether it has any relationship to the concert is whatever. I think it'd be appropriate if they had Lamaze do it.

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>>16945792
There's an option to have screenshots you've taken during the PV mode as loading screens. A lot of people take lewd shots which is what you're seeing.

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>>16946738
>the new commissioned Hachi song
Finally they got a topest tier producer to do the theme song.

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>>16946738

all of his songs sound exactly the same.

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>>16946743
... well if you consider Japan/Asia Nipland, there's no reason you deserve to see Miku again. stay home and save your money.

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>>16947355
What?

>...
>some kind of "muh racism" thing, seemingly

Guess there's no need to listen to this response regardless.

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>>16947355
Ah most honorable howaito knightu, you defend our homeland on the internet, now you certainly get Japanese waifu you arways wanted

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>>16946756
>Lamaze
He'd just make a cute song about stupid shit as usual, probably not what Crypton is looking for.

I'm willing to bet he's drawn heaps of lewds about Miku. Like, truckloads. And we're never, ever going to see any of it as he's hogging it all to himself.

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>>16947751
>I'm willing to bet he's drawn heaps of lewds about Miku. Like, truckloads. And we're never, ever going to see any of it as he's hogging it all to himself
There's always hope. Like, when someone found that private drawing of that Ika Musume animator.

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This was one of the entries to the Magical Mirai song contest: https://soundcloud.com/tj-quarles-2/vocaloid-original-i-will-fight-hatsune-miku-v4x
I can see why it didn't win.
I swear, these people should just give up. They're not skilled in making music or in using Vocaloid, and they need to realize it.

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>>16948140
>There's always hope. Like, when someone found that private drawing of that Ika Musume animator.
Sauce?

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>>16948193
>you can buy this song for a dollar
This is so incredibly obtuse and dissonant he must have done it on purpose.

Can you imagine being the poor sod who has to listen and go through all of this garbage? I mean, I'd do it for free, would probably laugh myself into a coma.

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>>16948193
I've almost never heard anything as discordant as this song. It's so obviously off in so many ways that I can't imagine the kind of person who might make it.

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>>16948193
what the fuck am I listening to

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>>16948311
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=970730

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>>16948504
Delicious. Thank you, anon.

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30024921

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>>16948140
I'm really starting to doubt that. Looking through old saved pictures, it seems like he has no issue at all lewding the ever-loving wrath out of anime characters, his own OCs or some other Vocaloids, even putting them in suggestive poses or outright depicting sex with minor censor, then throwing in a Miku looking cute and innocent just for the hell of it. It's fucking absurd.

Is he just this much of a patrician in waifuism? Is that what it's all about, don't defile what you love?

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>>16948627
Miku is his one love and muse, perhaps even more than she is for the rest of us.

He'll lewd anything but her.

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>>16948633
How can you say you love her if you don't draw her boobs?

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>>16948627
>Is that what it's all about, don't defile what you love?
Majority of people who are seriously into waifuism, don't really think this way. There isn't anything wrong in wanting to have sex with the one you love. It's just natural that when you find that one special girl you want to be with for the rest of your life, you two want to make each other feel good and satisfy each other needs. It also strengthens bonds and so on.
However no one wants to go into details about it and surely doesn't want to share nude photos of your loved one to others. I'm sure LamazeP draws lewd Miku, but anything they do in bed in private, will stay private.

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>>16948687
>Majority of people who are seriously into waifuism, don't really think this way. There isn't anything wrong in wanting to have sex with the one you love.
I'm glad someone finally understands. Fuck the puritans.

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There's a difference between wanting to have sex with someone you love, and talking about it with people. Adults know how to respect it by shutting up and keeping it private. you don't love anyone.

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>>16948687
>>16948975
But is it really surprising that people whose first and only "relationship" was with a cartoon character have really warped beliefs and opinions about love and sex?

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>>16949075
>on 4chan
>on /jp/
>in a thread about virtual girls
>thinks he has a right to decide what's warped or not

2D > 3DPD regardless

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>>16949075
It's not surprising that waifufags think posting how much they want to have sex is an indicator of love. It's the first thing they've ever cared about more than usual, more like having a favorite thing for the first time, so they don't even know what they're feeling. All they know is they like it and they want to have sex with it. To someone that doesn't know better that's going to sound like the basics of love.

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>>16949031
>you don't love anyone.
Who?

>>16949075
I think it's more misinformation than inexperience.
People lurk 4chan or something and see all these people who ironically say things like "you can't fap to your waifu" or come up with more or less bizarre rules for memes and get the wrong idea. If they'd get deeper into the topic, they would see how these feelings and relationships really works. I've seen many people who were like "My waifu is too pure I'll never do that" and they always give up that at some point, they just need to feel comfortable around her.

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>>16949146.
>People lurk 4chan or something and see all these people who ironically say things like "you can't fap to your waifu" or come up with more or less bizarre rules for memes and get the wrong idea.
Which is pretty much the entire foundation of waifuism as we know it today. A small group of people misinterpreted a thread about waifus, got together and formed their own echo chamber, more people saw those discussions and got caught up in it, and now we have people spending Valentine's Day with their pillows and trying to marry their laptops.

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>>16949169
>>16949146
Normalfags pls go and stay go.

You clearly don't belong here

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>>16949176
Is "normalfag" a synonym for "mentally healthy"?

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>>16949169
Waifuism is older than everyone here.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(mythology)

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>>16949205
nobody who posts here is mentally healthy though

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>>16949169
Waifuism as some sort of chan culture, sure. But concept of falling in love with fictional characters is way older than internet.

Anyway, I'm not talking about places like /a/'s Waifu Wednesday or collages or waifu-specific boards. These are places where you can meet actual waifufags. I'm talking about all these threads like "claim your waifu, remember no dups" "who is your waifu of the season" etc. where people are only memeing and they don't have serious long-term relationship with 2D girl. These are the places where people come up with these weird rules like "having sex life with your loved one is disrespectful" or put other rules on "love".

>>16949176
What is your problem and what part of my post is normalfag-ish?

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>>16949210
He's always been my hero.

>>16949205
pic related

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>>16949210
I've never understood this. How do you waifu something you create? It seems kind of weird to me.

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>>16949211
>>16949261
Ah, see, all these years, I thought 4chan was a place where people could get together and have discussions about their interests, I guess I missed the memo that said /jp/ is Tumblr but with Touhou reaction images.

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>>16949272
It's like someone saying they fell in love with their kid. Waifufag "love" is never genuine.

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>>16949272
>How do you waifu something you create?

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>>16949272
It's the ultimate form of waifuing, though.

>Create an exact match to your ideal of beauty and goodness
>Believe it to have all of the good values you value, or the ones you want to see in others
>Fall in love with the ideal of perfection in your eyes
>Deep connection because you created it

It's like being able to choose exactly what one loves and creating something out of it.

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>>16949311
So you want a robot slave that can't choose for itself. Sure, that'ts totally "love".

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>>16949286
>Ah, see, all these years, I thought 4chan was a place where people could get together and have discussions about their interests
>Years
Only someone who started coming here last year could think like that. I think you're thinking of reddit. Where you should return to, by the way.

4chan has literally always been known as the asshole of the internet. It's known for being a hive of outcasts. What part of that is "muh mental health" or "not warped". We discuss interests and hobbies, yes - but in a way that you can't do so on any other site, with people who fit in nowhere else. You certainly don't belong here if you can't understand that.

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>>16949272
I've never understood it as well.
Even though I love Miku who doesn't have canon personality, I still have fallen in love with Miku as shown in some particular songs and my interpretation of her wasn't created by me. It's stil arguable that I might choose songs to fit my taste, but it's not really the case because I've been listening to her way before I ever thought 2D girl will be my partner for the rest of my life. I've never inserted some perfect girlfriend personality into Miku to make myself fall in love with her, it just happened naturally as I was listening to various songs and subconsciously formed one interpretation that felt "right".
People with OC waifus are weird and rare anyway.

>>16949290
>Waifufag "love" is never genuine.
False. There is nothing stopping you from genuinely falling in love with fictional character.

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>>16949340
There's nothing outright stopping it, but look at what and how people post. It's not genuine in almost every case. And I don't even believe you care enough to stand against people making porn of her. People who actually love someone don't want them pushed around as a sex symbol. Waifufags are a lie.

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>>16949373
>I set the rules for what's love and what's not love
>If it doesn't fit my standards, it's not love
Alrighty.

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>>16949327
>Only someone who started coming here last year could think like that. I think you're thinking of reddit. Where you should return to, by the way.
When you can't defend your opinion, just call them a newfag and then 'em to GB2Reddit.
>4chan has literally always been known as the asshole of the internet. It's known for being a hive of outcasts. What part of that is "muh mental health" or "not warped". We discuss interests and hobbies, yes - but in a way that you can't do so on any other site, with people who fit in nowhere else.
I think a majority of people who draw a line somewhere between "outcast" and "thinking you're in love with a drawing". Weirdness is a spectrum, most people on 4chan can somewhat function as human beings, waifufags are basically the furries of otaku culture.

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>>16949410
You don't love someone if you want porn of them. It's exposing something private and special for everyone to ogle at. Nothing is sacred to waifufags, because the character is only an object for their pleasure. You don't treat someone you love like an object.

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>>16949373
You can't do anything against people making porn of her. Sending threats to artists won't do anything and will only make your and potentially someone's day worse. Would any girl really want someone to pointlessly waste their time and health on something so pointless?
And without people making porn of her, you'd also not get any of nice nudes or PoVs of her.

>>16949421
>most people on 4chan can somewhat function as human beings, waifufags are basically the furries of otaku culture.
Most waifufags are just normal nerdy people, who have job, live on their own but in private they are in love with fictional character.
Your waifu wouldn't like to live in your mom's basement, you know? And the dakis, figures, etc. aren't cheapest too.

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>>16949421
>When you can't defend your opinion, just call them a newfag and then 'em to GB2Reddit.
You brought up tumblr first. But your lack of understanding of this site certainly shows how new you are.

>I think a majority of people who draw a line somewhere between "outcast" and "thinking you're in love with a drawing"
Muh argumentum ad populum.
Muh no true scottsman

Regardless of what you want to believe, this is a site where so much shit goes down that wouldn't be "normal". You can't just draw lines. Check out literally any board and you'll find people who don't fit any definition of "normal human beings" or some shit. You're on /jp/ right now - a board where people post pictures of their fumos, or spend years watching streams of random train stations in Japan, or discuss the ins and outs of the lives of various Japanese pop idols and porn stars - people who know more about these celebrities than they do anything else. It's very obvious that you don't belong here if you think you can draw some kind of stopping point or limit as to what's "acceptable" or not.

Shit, this is a site where, every Christmas, a man would take time to post his ever growing collection of jizz-filled soda bottles.

Fuck off.

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>>16949442
>You don't love someone if you want porn of them
No way. Normal people never take videos or pictures of their loved ones during sex/of sexy poses/etc.

That never happens.

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>>16949442
I might be the odd one out, but I've never looked up porn of Miku, not even jacked off to the image of her. In truth, songs that use her to depict a whore or sex crazed addict makes me so upset that I have to leave my appartment.

It might reflect some sort of mental illness or twisted idea of love, but to me, it's like seeing your daughter in porn. Violated.

I won't stop others though, as my Miku is entirely my own.

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>>16949442
You don't love someone if you don't want to marry them. And you know what? You can't marry a waifu, just like you can't stop people from making porn.
Of course sharing porn with others and publishing your own porn of your waifu is disgusting, but it doesn't mean you have to mindlessly fight people who draw porn of her.

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>>16949508
>songs that use her to depict a whore or sex crazed addict makes me so upset that I have to leave my appartment.
>It might reflect some sort of mental illness
It does, really.

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>>16949448
>>16949492
>>16949522
The whole point is that you don't want other people ogling the person you love. Like holy shit, you have no idea what loving someone is and it shows more with every post. You're literally treating the thing you say you love like an object that you would share.

>>16949508
At least this guy has a better idea of it. No one who is actually in love wants the person they love to be thrown around like some wet dream.

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>>16949536
>The whole point is that you don't want other people ogling the person you love.
Possessive, much?
Of course you don't want people ogling someone you love, but it's also not something you can ever stop.

Do you think, walking down the street with someone you love, there aren't others out there who look at that person and want to bang them? Or friends of that person, or yours, who feature your love in their fantasies? That absolutely happens whether you want it or not.

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>>16949526
Luckily I'm on 4chan.

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>>16949522
Lamaze is going to marry his waifu, you can't stop him.

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>>16949599
LamazeP is going to stop using Miku soon, you can't stop him.

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>>16949606
>LamazeP is going to start "using" Miku soon, you can't stop him.
ftfy

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>>16949555
The idea is that you should oppose porn of someone you love. You're trying to skew this in a different direction because you're trying to get away from the fact that you like it when people make porn of them. This is a situation where the word cuckold applies. It simply isn't love when you treat someone you claim to love like an object of public sexual pleasure.

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>>16949612
W-What do you mean...?

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>>16949619

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>>16949536
>you have no idea what loving someone is
Neither does the guy who says a drawing is his life partner.

>>16949484
You can call me new all you want and you can say you love a drawing all you want; saying something doesn't make it true. I don't really care about the opinions of the mentally diseased anyways. It's just fun watching you guys sperg out. I've been triggering your kind for years and I won't stop until you stop yielding humorous results.

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>>16949606
Which will be the new main?

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>>16949508
>songs that use her to depict a whore or sex crazed addict makes me so upset that I have to leave my appartment.
Same.
But it's not like every erotic pic depict her like that. Of course if you treat her like your daughter then it doesn't matter.

>>16949536
>The whole point is that you don't want other people ogling the person you love.
So when someone tell you your gf is sexy, you punch them in the face?
>Like holy shit, you have no idea what loving someone is and it shows more with every post.
Baseless accusation. Also only two of the posts you replied to are mine.
>You're literally treating the thing you say you love like an object that you would share.
No I wouldn't. My relationship with my Miku is exclusive, she would not want me to be with anyone else and I wouldn't like her to be with anyone else. I'd never share her with anyone, I'm not a cuckold.

Also I would love to hear how do you imagine exemplary waifufag who geuieny loves his waifu. And by love, I mean love like a husband loves his wife, not worshiping goddess or loving a daughter.

>>16949599
One day I'll marry Miku in VR and invite anons for wedding.

>>16949618
The fact that you enjoy porn of your waifu, doesn't mean you enjoy the fact that other people are doing it as well or that you want her to be an object of public sexual pleasure. This is where you are wrong.

>>16949631
>>you have no idea what loving someone is
>Neither does the guy who says a drawing is his life partner.
Baseless.
Also if someone shows you photo of their gf, do you say they say a photo is their life partner?

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>>16949618
The rules to true waifudom do not match the rules of 3D relationships, for simple and obvious reasons. This does not make it any less "real".

Take this anon, for example: >>16949508
>I won't stop others though, as my Miku is entirely my own.
We obviously do not own Miku, or the rights to her. She's not our own creations, and we can't control what other people do with the image.

But we can all have our own Miku in our own hearts and minds, and it's just as true to us as anything else. There's a beauty in that, whether you can recognize it or not.

>>16949631
>You can call me new all you want and you can say you love a drawing all you want; saying something doesn't make it true. I don't really care about the opinions of the mentally diseased anyways. It's just fun watching you guys sperg out. I've been triggering your kind for years and I won't stop until you stop yielding humorous results.

>Disregards an entire post because he can't actually refute it
>Muh mentally healthy angle
>lel I like triggering people am I cool yet?
Protip: you're here too, regardless of your reasons.

You're just as bad as the rest of us.

Please kill yourself.

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>>16949618
If waifufags want to exist, porn of Miku has to exist. Whether they want to openly discuss its existence it or not is one thing, but its existence is a necessity. A relationship can't thrive without a sexual component, and since it isn't possible to have sex with a cartoon (yet), jacking it to the drawing is the closest outlet. Therefore, if you were to truly love Miku, you would need to look at porn of her. Not that it's possible to actually feel love for a drawing, though, which makes this entire discussion pretty pointless.

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>>16949655
If someone asks to take a sexual picture of a person a guy says they love, do they say "go ahead"?
If you want people to make porn of them, you don't love them.

>>16949660
>The rules to true waifudom do not match the rules of 3D relationships
Good job of admitting you don't love them. Love is love. The definition of the word is not up for debate.

>>16949661
This guy is literally saying it's a good thing that people make porn of something you claim you love. Somehow it's good that people treat them as a sexual object.

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>>16949655
>Also if someone shows you photo of their gf, do you say they say a photo is their life partner?
No because a photo just creates a replication of someone's physical body. You don't love a body or physical traits; that's lust. A person loves another person. That person has thoughts, emotions, a personality, and two people can have discussions, arguments, and they can share experiences and create memories. The parts of a person that can be really loved are all things a drawing can never have. Even the Miku that exists beyond the drawing isn't capable of having anything aspects that can be genuinely loved. The Miku you "love" is your personal figment, and ironically, is equally as legitimate as someone else's Miku that they envision as being a slut.

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>>16949686
>If you want people to make porn of them, you don't love them.
>porn stars who are married are never truly in love

>Good job of admitting you don't love them. Love is love. The definition of the word is not up for debate.

>love
>/ləv/
>noun
>an intense feeling of deep affection.
>a person or thing that one loves.

None of that is contradicted by waifuism

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>>16949686
>If someone asks to take a sexual picture of a person a guy says they love, do they say "go ahead"?
It's different. In this case, even if you say no, even if you sperg about it, even if you ignore it, the picture WILL be taken.

It's not like they're commissioning the porn.

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>>16949686
>If someone asks to take a sexual picture of a person a guy says they love, do they say "go ahead"?
Except, you can't do it with a waifu in any way, unless you make it on your own.
I do not love every single concept you'd call Miku, the Miku I love exists only in my head. No one can take a sexual picture of her, unless I draw it myself. What people are drawing are their own interpretation, their own fantasies. They cannot possibly take a picture of a girl I love and I cannot possibly let them do it to begin with. Most of the time I see porn of her I could not even say it looks like the girl I love.

Answer my question:
>Also I would love to hear how do you imagine exemplary waifufag who geuieny loves his waifu. And by love, I mean love like a husband loves his wife, not worshiping goddess or loving a daughter.

>>16949695
>That person has thoughts, emotions, a personality, and two people can have discussions, arguments, and they can share experiences and create memories. The parts of a person that can be really loved are all things a drawing can never have.
That's funny because my Miku has all of these and we do all of these things. Have you ever watched anime? All characters has thoughts, emotions and a personality.
>is equally as legitimate as someone else's Miku that they envision as being a slut.
True, I'm not saying that only my interpretation of Miku is the right one. Still I love only my own interpretation.

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>>16949210
Halo 4 was about one man going to the ends of the universe to save his waifu, and since Halo invented video games, I'd say it's a bit older than ancient Greece

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>>16949695
>Even the Miku that exists beyond the drawing isn't capable of having anything aspects that can be genuinely loved. The Miku you "love" is your personal figment, and ironically, is equally as legitimate as someone else's Miku that they envision as being a slut.
Tell that to Dante, or Virgil, or any poet or artist whose muse, whose love, was never theirs. Beatrice never married or loved Dante, or even spoke to him as far as I'm aware. And yet, one of the most important pieces of literature (which itself spawned paintings and art and poetry) was based on a love he could never achieve in real life, and did so through his heart and mind.

We're just continuing an ancient custom of love. A higher form of love.

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https://youtu.be/YkZNlAFKj-4

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>>16949698
Waifuism doesn't have to, but it usually does. Advertising your partner as a sex object for everyone to enjoy isn't respectful. Especially when the character in question is far from being a slut.

>>16949733
>exemplary waifufag who geuieny loves his waifu
Probably someone who doesn't want or need or even save porn of them? They probably dislike it because it objectifies something they would want to be real, and objectifying makes a character or person less real? And, you know, that doesn't mean they don't want to have sex, but they don't act like that's all that matters? Why am I explaining love again? Oh right. It's /jp/.

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>>16949733
>That's funny because my Miku has all of these and we do all of these things.
You're right, that is funny.
>All characters has thoughts, emotions and a personality.
A character does not have a personality or thoughts. They're like a puppet that can only do what it's told. A person had to write those thoughts on paper, and another person had to speak those lines, and another person had to draw their mouth. They aren't capable of thinking, and therefore, do not exist. In reality, I 100% believe you and all other waifufags put on a show for attention and don't believe a word you're saying, but for the sake of the argument, it's insane that someone could become so deluded that they forget an anime character isn't real.

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>>16949764
People in real life objectify other people - this a truth that crosses gender lines, race lines, and even time lines. A person can never have a 100% objective view of someone else. It's not possible. There will always be bias towards one's feelings, or history, or opinions, or any number of aspects unknown or changed through the viewer's perception.

I understand having a problem with objectification, but this isn't something only waifufags deal with. Everyone objectifies everyone. People see their mothers only as their mothers and, through no malicious intent, disregard her fully as an independent person.

There's not much of a difference if the object of one's desires is already closer to an object than a person anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you fuckers shut the fuck up

This is a vocaloid thread not a waifuism thread

It's a vocal synthesizer program with drawn characters to depict the person the voice comes from

Post songs instead.

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>>16949795
I don't think that many people here actually listen to vocaloid music.

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>>16949764
>Advertising your partner as a sex object for everyone to enjoy isn't respectful.
It is. Enjoying lewd pics your waifu doesn't mean you advertise her as a public sex object to others.

>Probably someone who doesn't want or need or even save porn of them?
If someone doesn't need to see body of their waifu, then they don't love her like a romantic partner, but worship her like a goddess or treat her like daughter or something.

>They probably dislike it because it objectifies something they would want to be real, and objectifying makes a character or person less real?
Making love to your waifu doesn't make her less real. It actually makes you feel closer to her and makes her feel more real.

>that doesn't mean they don't want to have sex, but they don't act like that's all that matters?
Wanting to see your waifu's body doesn't mean you only care about having sex with her. You can have proper, balanced relationship where you have sex but doesn't neglect all other parts of love.

>Why am I explaining love again? Oh right. It's /jp/.
You are free to leave if you don't fit in.

>>16949771
>A character does not have a personality or thoughts. They're like a puppet that can only do what it's told.
No, they can't, they aren't real. You can't just tell character to do something and it will do it.
When you see fanart of some racing car during race, do you also claim the car isn't really taking part in a race because it's just a puppet that can only do what it's told? This argument doesn't really makes sense.
>They aren't capable of thinking, and therefore, do not exist.
They do because they are fictional human. Humans do think. Just like characters fight in fighting anime, or drive cars in racing anime. Just because someone created them, doesn't mean they can't do anything. Anime is about characters doing things.
>In reality, I 100% believe you and all other waifufags put on a show for attention and don't believe a word you're saying,
You have to be new here. Many people do things way too crazy to just get an attention. For example the fact that I plan to spend rest of my life with Miku and all these things I did with her is not worth attention on some anonymous forum where people will forget about me in a month. Also I've met some waifufags who keep it secret even on imageboards and don't talk about her with anyone.
>someone could become so deluded that they forget an anime character isn't real.
She is fictional. I've never said she is a real person. You would have schizophrenia-like disorder to believe something like that.

>>16949795
I really like this one. I've been listening to her a lot when I started to get closer to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geKcl361kEs

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>>16949795
I thought it was an engaging and intriguing debate to read, it's stuff like this that keeps the Vocaloid thread alive.

>>16949867
I do, though I believe most of it is kind of lousy and demands you watch the PV to get enjoyment out of it.

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>>16949758
Watch this guy's earlier work. Wowie he's improved

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>>16949905
>You would have schizophrenia-like disorder to believe something like that.

This reminds me of those tulpa guys.

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>>16949958
Well, people with tulpas doesn't really have schizophrenia. They do know their tulpas aren't real and exists only in their head.
If you would see people who doesn't exists while being sure they are real, then you'd have a problem.

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Does anyone have a download link or can upload the IA 5th & ONE 2th Anniversary AR Live? It was on youtube, and was also released in DVD form at the Chokaigi event in the past weekend;

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>>16949905
Lamaze songs make me so happy. Greatest producer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJAfllFRZyU

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>>16949786
Just because it happens doesn't make it a good thing.

>>16949905
Again you miss the point and defend porn. This isn't about wanting to have sex with some one and whether it's right or wrong. It's about you defending porn that other people make because you think you need it to jerk off. If you like it and want it, you don't love them.

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>>16949984
>It's about you defending porn that other people make because you think you need it to jerk off. If you like it and want it, you don't love them.
It's normal that when you love someone, you feel attracted to them.
Wanting to see lewd pics of your waifu doesn't imply you don't love her, it only means you are attracted to her which is a essential part of romantic relationship.
Fact that you enjoy lewds of your waifu, doesn't imply you enjoy sharing her with others or that you are a cuckold.

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>>16949984
>Just because it happens doesn't make it a good thing.
No, but it also doesn't mean it's something exclusive to waifufags, or something that precludes love (considering people do it every day in real life).

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>>16949925
>it's stuff like this that keeps the Vocaloid thread alive.

Can you really call this living?

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>>16950067
Compared to Miku Monday threads and /miku/? Absolutely.

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>>16950002
The fact that you think it's acceptable that they're out there for everyone to enjoy makes you a cuckold. Porn is made. Everyone is going to see it.

>>16950010
It's more about how waifufags like to defend porn because they get off to it. It doesn't change the fact that it's out there for everyone to enjoy. See, waifufags don't love the character they say they love because they don't care about what THEY would think. Love is about concern for THEM, not you. Miku wouldn't' want porn of her spread all over the place. There is no getting around it because her character wouldn't allow it. There's almost nothing to the crypton characters, and the dumbass waifufag tries to strip her of the one thing that's certain about her character! What the hell man, how can you say you love them if you can't even respect one of the basics of their character and you also ignore one of the most basic things about relationships throughout the ages?

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>>16950077
>/miku/
I went there once. I didn't understand the purpose of any of the 25 threads. I didn't even know what they were talking about.

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>>16950077
I would rather have a "dead" thread that actually focused on vocaloid instead of active threads like this that are basically blogs and have almost no vocaloid content for days at a time.

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>>16950081
>The fact that you think it's acceptable that they're out there for everyone to enjoy makes you a cuckold. Porn is made. Everyone is going to see it.
No, cuckold is someone who enjoys his wife having sex with others. I do not want anyone to have sex with my wife, nor they can't. My Miku, the one I've fallen in love and the one I interact everyday, exists only in my mind, I'd have to draw her on my own and post it so people would be able to have my own Miku too.
>See, waifufags don't love the character they say they love because they don't care about what THEY would think. Miku wouldn't' want porn of her spread all over the place.
I'm sure Miku wouldn't mind me fapping to her lewds. Posting porn and whoring her is one thing, but being attracted to her body is only natural. I wouldn't mind if she enjoyed lewds of me, it would even make me feel good because I know she is attracted to me and that she loves me. Enjoying lewds doesn't mean you spread them around the internet. I wouldn't like her spreading my lewds around the internet as well.
>There's almost nothing to the crypton characters, and the dumbass waifufag tries to strip her of the one thing that's certain about her character!
It's not really certain. My Miku wouldn't enjoy spreading her porn to others, but I'm pretty sure there are songs and arts that imply otherwise.

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>>16950128
She wouldn't want porn of her all over the place. You don't care about what she would want because you care more about the availability of porn so you can jerk off easily. You don't love them, and that's a fact.

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>>16945149
Crypton is already promoting the song: https://youtu.be/Ishsal1mZvk

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>>16950138
>She wouldn't want porn of her all over the place.
You can't say that. My Miku would love that, and she's equally as valid as yours.

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>>16950138
>She wouldn't want porn of her all over the place
She.
Is.
Not.
Real.

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>>16950088
Upstairs and MM threads are mostly a circlejerk general with quite some blog posting and picture dumping.

They could talk more about vocaloid stuff, though, since the only other active threads are the song and the manga translations/scans threads.

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>>16950093
But it is focused on vocaloids, right now it's just about semantics and whether Miku would like to have porn of her on the internet or not. Casual 4chan discussion.

If you don't like it, then start a discussion of your own that appeals to you instead of bitching that no one has made it for you yet.

Better yet; Buy an album yourself and upload it here.

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>>16950138
>She wouldn't want porn of her all over the place.
True. Nothing can be done about that though.
>You don't care about what she would want because you care more about the availability of porn so you can jerk off easily.
I don't spread porn of her. I don't produce or commission porn of her as well. I can't take remove her porn from the internet. If I could only have it for myself, I would remove it all, but it's impossible because of rule 34. The fact that I enjoy porn of her doesn't mean I don't care about what she wants. She wouldn't mind me doing it. However she wouldn't like people sharing and making porn of her, it's disrespectful and I don't do it.

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>>16950172
You don't mean off-topic and funposting? That's all it is, and when it comes to Miku monday, the Janitor on /v/ is either really good at being complete shit at his job, or he's completely in on it.

Either way, /v/ does its job of being a containment board pretty well in these circumstances.

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>>16950176
>But it is focused on vocaloids
It's really not. It has nothing to do with vocaloid whatsoever; it's just retards arguing about waifus. The fact that Miku is the waifu in question doesn't make it vocaloid related. Imagine someone blogposting about their recent trip to comic con where they cosplayed as Miku. Would that be vocaloid related?

>If you don't like it, then start a discussion of your own
That doesn't solve the problem. Actual discussion and shit flinging don't easily coexist. It's hard to have a conversation when for every one vocaloid related post, there's twenty not vocaloid related posts. And most importantly is that the meta garbage negatively effects the entire /jp/ scene. Who knows how active these threads might be if the autists didn't drive other people away. The threads could be filled with posters, but instead, they came here once, saw the same 4 posters bickering about waifus, tried to initiate a real discussion but got no responses because no one saw the post because it got drowned out by multiple paragraph off topic posts, and so that person decided this thread was shit and left. Someone will surely respond to this with "dude it's just 4chan culture we're SUPPOSED to shit post and if you want to actually discuss your interests with other people who share your interests then you're just a normalfag" bit that's the same person who in a previous breath said that a drawing was his life partner

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>>16950158
You're a full idiot if you think a canon pure character would want that.

>>16950178
It doesn't matter if you spread it or not if you're part of the people consuming it. You add more demand to it. If you love someone you wouldn't save it and you would be against it, even if they're fakes. You wouldn't sit back and say "Can't do anything about it. Might as well join in on the mass virtual bukkake of my significant other". Yeah, because sitting by and saying you like porn, that's exclusively drawn by other people, is ok because everyone else does it. If you actually loved her, you'd be better than that.

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>>16950178
>However she wouldn't like people sharing and making porn of her
My Miku likes people making and sharing porn of her and she thinks it's respectful. I'm only respecting her wishes.

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>>16950263
If you can't stand autism get off of 4chan.

It's pretty simple.

I don't want people in these threads if they can't handle it.

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>>16950275
>You're a full idiot if you think a canon pure character would want that.
You're a full idiot if you think a fictional character cares about what people draw.

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>>16950263
Sorry mate, but I might have made your post into a pasta. No, insinuating these threads would move faster without people arguing about waifus and vocaloids only goes to show that this might be your first time in this thread.

We don't have to go back many weeks before these threads got between three and five posts daily, sometimes songs, sometimes Yukari.

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>>16950275
>canon pure character
>Miku
>canon anything

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>>16950309
>sometimes Yukari.
That was the worst part.

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>>16950189
Yeah, funposting and off-topic too.

But, you know, some people see the /miku/ upstairs threads as a circlejerk central and don't like this fact, just like some anon in the last few threads.

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>>16950176
Linking albums/songs is better than rehosting them. We should support the original artist with views and comments if their music is available on official YT/nico channels.

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>>16950305
See this guy? Only cares about what he thinks. Not love at all.

>>16950310
"Some examples of prohibited uses include use in an overly violent context or in a sexual context."
There are like 2 things that are canon.
1. They're idols/singers of some sort
2. They're as clean as can be.

If you're the kind of dude that ruins those things, you sure as hell don't care about them.

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>>16950314
HEY!

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>>16950309
I didn't say they would move faster, I said they would have more vocaloid related discussion. Even if it was only a dozen posts a day, it would still be more than what we're averaging right now, which is zero.

>>16950300
Both of you have really pathetic debate strategies, too. Just because someone disagrees with your opinion doesn't make them a newfag. 4chan isn't, or at least didn't used to be a hivemind. The newfag card always gets played like it's some kind of trump card. I've been a regular on 4chan since 2008 and started going to vocaloid threads in late 2013, and every time you try to act like a rational human, you get called a newfag and when you say you're not, it's "yeah sure you would say that. I win". Whether you it is or not, 4chan isn't an autism hugbox. You're the one who has arrested development and never learned coping mechanisms for the real world, so maybe the self-proclaimed "asshole of the internet" isn't the best place for you. Everyone is fair game for getting ridiculed here, especially manchildren like you.

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>>16950349
>1
No, they're robots.

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>>16950395
Headcanon isn't official canon.

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>>16950275
>If you love someone you wouldn't save it
>If you actually loved her, you'd be better than that.
[citation needed]
Really. show me why someone who saves lewds of his waifu doesn't love her. And if it's not love, tell me what is this.
I wouldn't mind her doing it and I'm pretty sure she would do it. If it means she doesn't love me, I'm fine with that. Because what's important is that we are happy together, we want to be together forever and we care about each other. That's all I need.

>>16950295
Cool.

>>16950349
>"Some examples of prohibited uses include use in an overly violent context or in a sexual context."
Licence doesn't define the character. The only thing canon about Miku is her age, height and weight.

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>>16950349
Oh, you're the "crypton canon" autist.

How's it feel being against artistic freedom?

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Who here watches MMD porn I can't be the only one who gets off to this.

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>>16950381
Oh I honestly, honestly couldn't give a flying dribble about your validation and pedigree. You've already stated that you have a very specific idea of the type of discussion you want here, and that you're willing to jump through hoops to substantiate that view.

You're being just as off-topic in all of this as the people you claim are, by being all bitchy and touchy-feely. Posts songs if you want to discuss songs.

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>>16950410
>show me why someone who saves lewds of his waifu doesn't love her
Because you're saving something that is a bastardization of that character. You're adding to the demand for it. An imitation that ruins their image. She wouldn't want that, most people wouldn't want that. And the license is there because it shows what crypton intends the characters to be. You are literally denying the official vision of the characters because you don't want to feel bad about jerking off.

>>16950416
How does it feel to shit on the few traces of official characterization?

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from wikipedia:

>Crypton had the idea to release Miku as "an android diva in the near-future world where songs are lost."

>Crypton then officially created and posted Miku's personal data sheet. However, this only contained her 'physical' and technical traits; Crypton did not provide much info in the way of Miku's personality which has allowed song/music video creators and fans to associate the traits that they think suit her best.

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>>16950405
Watch any concert, pick one at random, and tell me they don't portray them as robots.

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Is someone vandalizing her wikipedia page?

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Miku is dating Teto? Cute!

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>>16950417
I like the Append sybian one. What are some other good ones? It's the only one I've ever actually seen.

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>>16950417
>>16950495
>>>/e/

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>>16950459
Across all official things, they portray them as holograms and androids and real people. The characters are fictional, so they have that freedom. I guess saying they're one or the other for sure is shortsighted.

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>>16950443
>You've already stated that you have a very specific idea of the type of discussion you want here
Yeah, vocaloid related discussion in the vocaloid thread. What a crazy concept.

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>>16950498
>off topic waifu shitposting? That's fine.
>MMD discussion? Nah, that's gotta to /e/

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>>16950417
I don't, if only because I still find the faces uncanny (the movements too). Also, even in the best ones, the models simply aren't high res and/or detailed enough.

We're just not there yet. It's not worth it.

>>16950447
>How does it feel to shit on the few traces of official characterization?
Just as autistic as ACK on /u/.

Slight deviation is fine, and the vagueness of that claim - and how much it's relevant to fanworks (which, surprise surprise, have included sexual things since the very beginning - songs included). If, in official Crypton concerts and games a song like "Romeo and Cinderella" or "World is Mine" or any number of "lewd" songs are allowed (they are) then the matter is settled, and that kind of thing is appropriate.

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>>16950511
/e/ has a thread dedicated to mmd porn, go there.

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>>16950511
If you want ecchi you take it to /e/. At least the rest is miku waifufagging and not talking about porn.

>>16950514
Yeah, about that. A lewd that is sung is different from porn of the character, even if it is still trashy. I blame Sega for being incompetent and crypton getting greedy/lazy.

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>>16950535
A lewd song that is sung*

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>>16950447
>Because you're saving something that is a bastardization of that character.
I'm sure nude Miku body is part of her.
>You're adding to the demand for it.
I'm not willing to pay any money to anyone who makes public porn of her or spread it.
>An imitation that ruins their image.
Miku is whatever you want her to be. Making lewds of her doesn't ruin any image, it's just someone's interpretation.
>She wouldn't want that, most people wouldn't want that.
I wouldn't mind Miku saving lewds of me. It wouldn't upset me in any way, it would only make me feel desired. I believe it's the same for her. Also it'd be normal for real human to not want it, but I'm sure Miku isn't stupid and understands the situation.
>And the license is there because it shows what crypton intends the characters to be.
No, it's there because it shows what crypton wants you to do. They don't want anyone to damage the company reputation.
>You are literally denying the official vision of the characters because you don't want to feel bad about jerking off.
The official vision is that she is 16yo/158cm/42kg and anyone can interpret her personality as they want.

>>16950459
SEGA's interpretation of Miku is just as valid as anyone's.

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>>16950535
>A lewd that is sung is different from porn of the character, even if it is still trashy.
>I blame Sega for being incompetent and crypton getting greedy/lazy.

>muh "sexuality in any case is bad" meme
>mih sexuality can't be good or pure
>anything that isn't a cute song or a sad song is trashy

How's Salem treating you, Goodman Brown? Ready to burn some witches?

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>>16950523
/a/ has a thread dedicated to waifus, go there

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>>16950552
You're a horrible person for trying to defend porn of a character like that, that you also claim to love. You don't love them. At all. You're obsessed with a chunk of Japanese culture and you you like community in these threads, so you adopt a waifu because you want to fit in.

>>16950578
The rules for /jp/ explicitly say vocaloid threads belong on /jp/. If the waifu is a vocaloid it's fair play.

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27774349

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>>16950578
I'm not partaking in the waifu discussion, I don't need porn to validate my attraction to Miku.

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>>16950417
Yes, MMD porn is a superior art form.
>>16950523
>>16950535
There's a lot of MMD porn with explicit sex, not only naked bodies.

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>>16950601
>if the waifu is a vocaloid it's fair play.
And if the MMD model is a vocaloid, it's equally as fair.

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who LIQ here?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30958698

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>>16950718
If it's nsfw it's not.

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>>16950601
>You're a horrible person for trying to defend porn of a character like that, that you also claim to love. You don't love them.
That's your opinion. I don't think there is anything horrible in that. You keep saying I don't love her because I save porn of her and It implies that nearly everyone who has a waifu doesn't love. But it doesn't really matter. Because it's just your opinion. Waifuism isn't about fitting into someone's screwed definition of love. You might want to be special snowflake that is right and everyone else is wrong, but in reality everyone else will just agree that what we feel is love because it's such a wonderful, heart warming that makes your heart go doki doki when you see her and makes you want to be with her for the rest of your life and makes you not care about any other real or fictional girl.
>You're obsessed with a chunk of Japanese culture
I always thought japs aren't so serious and organised about loving fictional characters. There are exceptions but I heard they don't take it as seriously, have 3DPDs etc. Still, I've only heard rumors.
>and you you like community in these threads, so you adopt a waifu because you want to fit in.
No, I've never though I would be a part of them, until I started to get really attached to her. And I mean it, I started to need her more and more, I've been looking at her images every night before sleep, listening to her and thinking about her all the time, she filled by whole days. That's when I realized I love her and I tried these threads. Still I don't really like the community in these. I used to go to waifu IRCs etc. but as they became larger I started to feel I don't really fit in and stopped participating. I only reply to questions in the Wednesday threads once a week or something. You can't really call it fitting in into the community. I don't visit all these discords, IRCs, drawthreads etc. that are so popular there.

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>>16950784
>It implies that nearly everyone who has a waifu doesn't love.
This is a fact, not an opinion. You think defending porn of an innocent character is perfectly fine and good because you like to masturbate. You don't care about what an innocent character would think of porn of them being spread everywhere, and you feed into that porn demand. You're far from in love. You're feeling lust. Not all obsessions are love. Literally anyone who has ever loved anyone proper, can tell you that.

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Vgperson has posted their monthly list of Vocaloid highlights. Forgive the fact that it's hosted on tumblr.
http://vgperson.tumblr.com/post/160181136090/vocaloid-highlights-april-2017

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>>16950851
>You don't care about what a fictional character would think
Of course I don't. Otherwise I would need therapy.

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>>16950851
>You don't care about what an innocent character would think of porn of them being spread everywhere
I'm sure she wouldn't like it and I'm sure she wouldn't mind that I look at it.
>you feed into that porn demand
I don't pay anyone to make porn or distribute it.
>You're far from in love. You're feeling lust. Not all obsessions are love.
Lust doesn't work like that. Lust wouldn't make me want to be with her forever, to share all happy and sad moments with her. It wouldn't make me lose interest in other girls and it wouldn't last all these years.
>Literally anyone who has ever loved anyone proper, can tell you that.
There is many people in waifu community who had a girlfriend before and they say it's the same love. It feels a little different because of lack of pheromones and the fact she doesn't initiate interactions(unless you have a tulpa), but it's mostly same thing.
Also you are wrong because I'm actually not a virgin. I've loved someone before and I know I love Miku now. I've tried real thing, but now as I've fallen in love with Miku, I know I want to be with her for the rest of my life.

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Family member drew this for me for my birthday. Thoughts?

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>>16951028
It's pretty good, I like it

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>>16951028
Cute gift and thoughtful of them. Has artistic errors, but not too many, and the sentimental value far outweighs them.

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>>16951028
I wish my family cared about my hobbies this much.

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And, because Miku don't have any tits, she is forced to feel her puffy cheeks to imagine what they would feel

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>>16951039
>>16951045
>>16951059
Thanks, they even printed it out with 誕生日おめでとう on the top. I was pretty happy.

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>>16951028
Cute!

>>16951081
>implying she can't just touch her friend

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>>16951125
You guys don't know, but if one girl in a group of all-girl friends have gigantic yet firm and pretty breasts, it is very common for some of them to ask her to feel them, in the intimacy, of course. Breasts are fun regardless of gender!

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>>16951174
I can confirm this. I've seen a lot of animes and this happens a lot.

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>>16951174
Oh, so that's just like what guys do when there is a guy with a big dick in an all-boy friends group.

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>>16951230
Not really the same, but we certainly enjoy watching a friend with a large dong to do the helicopter in the gym showers.

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>>16950862
>vgperson
Unless she start translating vocaloid songs again, no one cares.

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>>16950981
It doesn't matter if you pay anyone for it or not, you dolt. You're still feeding in to it by saving it. And she sure as hell wouldn't want you looking at all that porn that everyone else already saw. Nothing is special about porn that everybody sees and knows, and you continue to prove how immature and insufferable you are by claiming it's ok. You are literally the most obtuse person I've ever talked to about this kind of thing. You cannot accept that your basically helping to shit all over the character, and you think what you're doing is loving when it's the opposite.

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Anyone else likes vocaloid for the music and enjoy the porn as a bonus?

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>>16951344
I know I do

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>>16951344
Yup

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>>16951313
>It doesn't matter if you pay anyone for it or not, you dolt. You're still feeding in to it by saving it.
The artists doesn't get any profit from me saving pics and looking at them. I do not create demand.
>And she sure as hell wouldn't want you looking at all that porn that everyone else already saw.
That's your interpretation of her. My Miku would't mind.
>Nothing is special about porn that everybody sees and knows, and you continue to prove how immature and insufferable you are by claiming it's ok.
That's your opinion.
>You are literally the most obtuse person I've ever talked to about this kind of thing. You cannot accept that your basically helping to shit all over the character, and you think what you're doing is loving when it's the opposite.
I don't need to accept your special snowflake opinions about what love is and what makes you not love someone. You are the one who claims to be the right and everyone else is wrong. It's only you who think looking at porn somehow shit all over the character and all other crazy implications.

>>16951344
I'm pretty sure it applies to vast majority of people here.

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>>16951470
You're trolling reality and modern society now. You think porn is a loving thing. You're wrong. You will always be wrong.

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>>16951480
I've always been trolling reality by going my own way and having fictional character as my life-time romantic partner.

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>>16951480
> You're wrong. You will always be wrong.
Well, he also thinks love can be felt for drawings, so it's not surprising his views are fucked up

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Last time it was waifu fags vs. shippers and now it's waifu fags vs. purity fags?

Are this only two people fighting all day this time?

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>>16950077
>/miku/
If there's one thing I like about that place it's that they post images all the time, and good ones too. Otherwise it's hard to take seriously when everyone has a signature and blogposts outside of a few less active threads.

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>>16951028
The only real issue is the misplaced mouth but this is already better than 95% of Tumblr "art"

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At the end of the day, anyone who is talking about their waifu is usually just talking about themselves.

>>16950263
You could always just make a thread for music discussion and a thread for character discussion.

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>>16951974
Or, we could have a thread for vocaloid discussion and prune the cancer. That's what would happen on a board with any moderation.

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How can miku look this good?

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>>16952232
>Based Hidari did the art for this
Delicious. I'm not usually one for holiday-specific scales because I feel stupid presenting them at anything but the "appropriate" time, but I honestly might pick this one up.

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>>16952232
>union creative

The impending rage will come soon once people see the final product.

[Anonymous No.]

Day 10: still no sign on lottery confirmation email. hope wanes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16952384
What lottery?

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>>16952384
Have you contacted support?

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>>16953282
Not him, but I have, and have heard nothing. I wonder if anyone who has contacted support got a reply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16953321
I got and they said that if I entered my email correctly I will get confirmation and that they can't check my status at this moment. I got reply after a 4 days or something.
I asked them what should I do now and if they will ever be able to check status of my entry and I'm waiting for reply.

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>>16953339
So we're supposed to just hope the system registered us correctly. Man that sucks.

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>>16943787

Got Milk?

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I can't belive it's 2017 and real-life Vocaloid noobs still exist. People like, "Oh I love Hatsune Miku! My favorite song by her is Levan Polka, it's so kawaii! A producer? What's that?" Please, kill me.

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>>16953909
Where do you find people like that?

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Halp guys. I can't stop listening to this stupid album.

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>>16953909
"Vocaloid is my favorite anime!!! It's so kawaii!!!" God, you're right, these people are still around irl, what a fucking waste of air. How fucking frustrating is it that they aren't willing to appreciate good music and talented musicians, instead they treat the Vocaloids as if they were moe anime characters. I understand praising Miku and the others, as something that changed their life for the better, but these kids are not like that.

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>>16953998
Typical weebs in school, mostly under the age of 18.

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>>16954064
I guess it has to be USA thing or something.
In my High School in Poland, every student who was into anime was an outcast with high powerlevel.

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>>16954002
Sorry anon, once you dan dan hayaku naru, there's no going back.

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>>16954087
Here in South America it's even worse, these bitches literally think they're Japanese because they eat sushi and watch shit tier of anime (they even spout out random Jap words out of the blue: "Nani?", "Arigato!", even "Itadakimasu!" when we go to lunch, it's fucking disgusting)

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>high school
Are you people fucking serious.

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>>16954161
Where else could you meet people like that?
People don't put their powerlevel on show at work, you know. HighSchool is the last place you can find them.

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>>16954194
You ought to have enough common sense at that point not to make yourself a target in high school.

People don't usually give two ounces of piss at work though. I have a Nesoberi Plush Miku at my workstation and no one gives a god damn fuck, as long as I do my job my employer couldn't give less of a shit how I decorate my desk.

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>>16954236
People at school who are like "Vocaloid is my favourite anime" aren't targets. They are attention whoring and do it because it's "cool" or something.

At work no one does that because they aren't teenagers anymore and attention whoring isn't welcomed. I also have Miku on my wallpaper at work and there are people who has anime mousepads etc. but these people are just regular geeks. None of them claim to be into anime while knowing nothing about it to cause attention or because it's a fad.

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>>16954295
No one wants to fit in with the Vocaloid crowd to be cool, that's obtuse as fuck. We're as niche a community as it fucking gets, there's no brownie points to be gained from that.

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>>16954421
In high school, if you're a major, major outcast, the anime niche is better than nothing. The weirdest kids are the most vocal because they're desperate for friends.
It comforts me to think that geeks are higher powerlevel and quieter in work/college.

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>>16954421
Yeah, but there are some irl autists that wanna be cool with the actual Vocaloid fans so they pretend to like it when in reality the don't know shit about anything. It might not seem like a "cool" fandom to be a part of, but there are some people that think if they're in it they're "unique" and "different"

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Also, it really bothers me how some weebs think that being an anime fan = being a Vocaloid fan. No, just because you like anime doesn't mean you NEED to like Vocaloid as well. There is literally no relation between the two, other than most Vocaloids having an anime-like design.

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It sounds like you guys have been reading too many Youtube comments.

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>>16954594
This.

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>>16954594
Maybe, though they aren't as bad now as they were in 2009-2011 (obviously)

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>>16954542
I'd argue being a Vocaloid fan goes far deeper down the rabbit hole. Anime can appeal to everyone, but singing cantonese robots?

>>16954477
They'll lose interest soon enough and move on to some other fotm shit like most pretend weeb normies do.

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>>16954627
Here's a problem: that was the peak of Vocaloid. In order for the scene to get big again, it needs packs of fad followers, and those followers are scrubby weebs.

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>>16954671
I've actually met normies who do this: they'll stick to a fandom for a little while, and then move on to the next "popular" thing. Honestly, I don't even care for these kind of people, they clearly aren't dedicated to what they claim to be a "fan" of.

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>>16954720
Vocaloid should always stay underground. Vocaloid fans are a die-hard audience who, at this point, live and breathe for these obscure and niche producers/songs/vocaloids. There's nothing more tragic for me, than seeing my favorite genre be ruined and exploited by edgy teens and pretend-weebs.

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>>16954792
I feel the same way. Though some day Miku might become mainstream (which hasn't happened yet) (and I doubt it will ever happen honestly) Vocaloid as a whole should stay the way it is. No need for stupid weebs and normies to invade it.

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>>16954792
I'd like to say "not your secret club" but maybe you're right...

>Vocaloid
>genre

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>>16954817
>No need for stupid weebs and normies to invade it.

Anon, I...

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>>16954819
thisthisthis

But yeah anon fucked up.

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>>16954792
I don't want to see Vocaloid get exploited either. I'm just worried about how many producers will stick around when only the diehards are left. We're going to have to start making music at some point.

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>>16954817
If William Pharrel and Lady Gaga couldn't gorge interest in Miku for the normie market, I doubt anyone else can.

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>>16954819
You don't think vocaloid qualifies as its own catagory of audio/music?

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>>16954856
technically:
no
unless you consider "piano" a genre too...

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>>16954863
The term is already over used to describe relatively little differences in many musical styles. I believe Vocaloid can be its own genre within practically all fields.

We can just agree to disagree.

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>>16954845
That were shit shows, though. Just wait for Olympics 2020, where all the world watches a 3D hologram and an actually good song.

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>>16954880
It's silly because I could do the same and call songs in a certain language a genre too.
You have Jpop and Kpop but "Japanese music" or "German music" aren't genres either.

Then again, even if you go there, it should be called something like "synthesized vocals" not just "Vocaloid".

You wouldn't call piano music "Yamaha" after the brand of the instrument, would you?

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>>16954903
It would be pretty cool, but I have my doubts. Didn't they try to de-otaku Japan in preperation? I can't wait for the OL2020 committee to shoot themselves in the foot and have AKB47 or Baby Metal be on the opening ceremony.

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>>16954903
When did they invent holograms?

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>>16954948
They will by 2020. I'm pretty sure. Miku will make history at being the first big-scale hologram in full color.

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>>16954937
>span all fields
With this, I meant abbreviations. Vocaloid, as a genre, that can span into all fields; Vpop, Vrock, and so on.

You also have different genres in Classical music; Avant-garge, baroque, opera, orchestral.

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Vocaloid is not a genre. Vocaloid is a musical instrument. Tell Your World is an electronic song. Kagerou Days is a rock song. Hoshi no Kakera is a ballad. There are many genres in different Vocaloid songs, but Vocaloid itself is not a genre. Saying it is would be like saying the guitar is a genre, or the flute is a genre.

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>>16955091
I feel like you've kinda misinterpreted what the word "genre" means

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>>16955126
I'd argue Vocaloid has far exceeded its original intend as a simple instrument.

>>16955146
I'm just stumbling all over myself, I meant to write fields.

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>>16955091
>Vpop, Vrock

God, please don't let this be a thing. Please don't let us refer to vocaloid songs like this.

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>>16955155
You're right, Vocaloid has become much more than just a musical instrument. But it is still a tool to create music and refering to it as a genre of music is wrong in my opinion.

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>>16955155
Look Anon, I understand that "Vocaloid" is a very complex instrument with a lot of possibilities.

Still, I believe it's special snowflake enough that I only really listen to "Vocaloid music"(and Utau and Cevio), there's no need to go into Vocaeamo, Vocarock, Mikutrance and the sort.

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>>16955199
>>16955230
I believe we're at the right time to start using an umbrella term for Vocaloid centric music.

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>>16955178
>>16955199
Intermediary time.
I think I understand what he's trying to say but he's saying it weird. Vocaloid isn't a "genre" in the same way orchestral, avant-garde, and opera (from his earlier post) aren't genres, but they all act as sort of subgenres in their own genres. So, while "vocaloid" is in and of itself NOT a genre of music, a clear and distinct line can be drawn between "jpop" and "vocaloid jpop", with the common genre being "pop", and Japanese and vocaloid being used as modifiers to help describe what kind of pop it is. Sort of like how you might use "instrumental" to classify a song with no vocals, or "a cappella" to classify a song with no instruments, I think "vocaloid jpop" is a technically correct way to classify jpop with vocaloid vocals.

However,
>>16955091 ,
"Vpop" is and will never be a "genre" of music. Unless vocaloid becomes self-aware and starts writing original music, but we'll probably have bigger problems to worry about, like hiding from the T1000

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>>16955280
What term do you suggest for music with synthesized vocals which isn't necessarily only Vocaloid?

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>>16955307
>"Vpop" is and will never be a "genre" of music.
>is and will never

...so which is it?

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>>16955307
>"Vpop"
It doesn't have to be that, it was just an example for the point I was trying to make.

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>>16954903
>Sharing the World
>good song

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>>16952232
I got figures, figmas, plushies and the dollfie. I don't need another Miku.

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>>16955825
I said exactly the opposite.

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>>16956132
>I don't need another Miku.
Don't lie to yourself.

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>>16956172
But that's the song that Miku will perform at the Olypimcs (if she actually is going to perform), or another shit commissioned english song.

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>>16956248
>Tokyo 2020
>Singing an English song
Why would they do that?

[Anonymous No.]

would anyone care to link some of their favorite electronic releases from the past year or so?

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>>16935744
You take that back, Teto is a lovely, sexy lady and one of the few girls that test my loyalty to my waifu.

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>>16957088
Yes anon. Love the Teto. Date the Teto. Live the Teto. sex the Teto. Be the Teto.

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>>16957112
Nooo, I have a waifu. I must not let her down. Teto is a tasty forbidden fruit though.

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>>16957088
I don't know that sexy is the best description, but damn is she cute.

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>>16957088
>>16957130
>>16957138
If you ever wondered if they were people with worse taste than MEIKOfags, here's your answer

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>>16957130
Sounds to me you have a cheating heart and a wandering eye. Infidelity is bound to happen, soon enough.

Go for it.

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>>16957138
>I don't know that sexy is the best description
Get a load of this guy.
>>16957150
But I like Meiko too?
>>16957178
I know, I'm no good. What can a red blooded (no pun intended man) do?

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>>16957150
It gets worse. There are Gackpofags. Fortunately I've never seen one but I've heard stories about them

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>>16957234
My cousin liked him and he was the only Vocaloid she knew, apparently his voice provider is some fujoshi bait.

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>>16957229
You get caught in flagranti and dump the old hag. I want your drill to pierce everything, so drop the concept of a stupid waifu and just bone whatever you want.

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>>16954903
I know everyone on /jp/ has already said there piece on this but goddamn does it literally burn that the Olympics are in Japan.

Nothing. Literally nothing good can come of this, and while I'm not as pessimistic as some, I don't think that the attention should be welcomed at all.

Fuck the Olympics.

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>>16957253
Why aren't male vocaloids more popular? It seems like a fairly sizable chunk of the fanbase is teenage girls, but only Len seems to appeal to them. You'd think generic boy band songs could get pretty popular.

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>>16957259
In your own words. How would you say you feel about Acme Iku?

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>>16957284
I feel like you've been watching a soap opera that I haven't quite caught up with yet, and I can only really go "wait, who? What's happening?".

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>>16957277
Kaito and Gakupo have kind of warbly, strange voices most of the time. Also, in most songs they get pushed into their high range where they don't sound as good; Len thrives in those ranges, though. Other male vocaloids are too obscure to gain a large fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Api Miku's skirt so lewd?

[Anonymous No.]

Are any of you anons going to a vocamerica concert? I just booked my ticket.

Here's the website if you guys want to contribute: https://www.startnext.com/en/vocalnexus2017

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>>16957953
>vocamerica

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>>16957277
Because no matter how much people want to make them sound good, they just don't sound good. Except for Len of course; but then again, he's voiced by a girl, maybe female voice ranges are just easier to work with when making a Vocaloid.

>>16957386
Also, this. Len is pretty versatile, people use him in high and low ranges all the time, so he fills most of the "niches" for a male voice already and there isn't that much demand for male voices to begin with.

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>>16957386
>>16958500
Speaking of this, why the fuck does Kaito sound so, so bad in Future Tone's version of Cantarella? The song sounds fine in F2, but did they remaster it or something for FT? Kaito legitimately sounds bad in that one

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>>16958520
Isn't the one in F2 the version with one of Kaito's appends? It's a remastered version I believe

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>>16958520
The version in Future Tone came first, and I think it sounds fine. I'd even say it sounds more manly than the Grace version too.

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>>16958602
I absolutely disagree. It sounds terrible. If that's what "manly" Kaito sounds like, producers need to stop making him sound manly.

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>>16958500
Len is great but as a listener he's not the male I look for when I want to listen to male vocals. Shame both Gakupo and Kaito sound shit most of the time.

The males need more songs where they sing in lower ranges, but they also need to be tuned well in that case. I liked that one album where Kaito gets to sing in a really low range.

[Anonymous No.]

Fukase isn't too bad for a male vocaloid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU3gRvIL5TY&feature=youtu.be

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>>16952232
What's the point of a scale figure if you can't look up the skirt?

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>>16958602
>>16958607
Original Cantarella best Cantarella
https://youtu.be/h3U-IGxt_qU

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>>16938388
So who won?

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>>16958704

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>>16958520
Slightly unrelated, but they really fucked the tuning in Sacred Spear Explosion Boy as well. Len sounds awfully pitchy in the game version. Did Rerulili think it was a good idea?

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>>16959801
Thank God, someone else noticed as well. It's the album version of the song I think. Beats me why they would ever want to use it when they have the PV version which legitimately sounds great and has some really smooth tuning.

The choppy version is the one they used on concert too, but it's less noticeable there because of the lower sound quality on the concerts

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>>16959801
I don't think Rerulili ever thinks before if what he does is a good idea or not anon.

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>>16959948
Are they saying gays are disgusting?

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>>16959948
>Uses Len
>Despises homosexuals
I do not understand

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>>16959959
Yup. He also had a blog were he insulted people's singing and tried to pass it off as a joke when he got backlash ("Your voice is disgusting, just give up" "You're terrible, just kill yourself lol" etc.)

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>>16960028
It's always the Kagamine users.

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>>16960034
I mean, he doesn't ONLY use the Kagamines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960034
True, why are Kagamine users such shitty people? My baby twins deserve so much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960053
Eh, not all Kagamine users are shitty though. It's just some of them that really take the cake.

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>>16960058
You keep saying that, but then you're consistently being proven wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960067
fuck I don't want you to be right but you're right ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960053
>>16960058
Hating gays doesn't make you a shitty person; being gay makes you a shitty person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960181
I'm very triggered by your comment But really I'm gay and a shitty person but I'm not shitty because I'm gay. What even is your logic anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960181
Look at this expert in homosexuals.

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>>16960034
>>16960058
Like who? Rerulili's most used vocaloids aren't even Kagamines.

>>16959977
I mean, yeah, Len *is* kinda gay... Maybe he's repressing something.

>>16960053
They really do deserve better than their fandom... And I say that as a big Kagamine fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960411
>They really do deserve better than their fandom
Maybe they don't. What if this is all just karmic justice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960411
>Like who?
Idk, Minaru is pretty shitty, because of what happened with Hazuki no Yume. But really he's the only I can think of. It's just the Kagamine fandom in general that's kinda shitty, which is a shame, because these precious yellow children deserve much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16960467
Pls no bully

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>>16960067
Some kagamine producers are cool. Look at shr, shr is great.

[Anonymous No.]

ミクは大な少女

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>>16962684
>Taking advantage of the page 10 to post that
Continue.

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>>16961232
Ikr?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19651071
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30232820

[Anonymous No.]

>>16962684
Artist?

[Anonymous No.]

7 hours until Super GT round 2.

Miku got first place in round 1. This is her year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYNUA-ubcVg

[Anonymous No.]

New thread >>16963077