Elona

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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/iKuzYgBK

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/tQk5sjSV

>1.66 and prior versions changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Discussion:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:22264

Current Elona+ version 1.66. Pastebins updated(Thanks Anon).

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Where are the Golden Knights, Lintahlo?

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Monster girl spritesheet for 1.66:
https://mega.nz/#!rctwWY6C!5KZXDKXx5LsxBMGUSJTCqs-cXI9ut-UcDLrPPZTolo0

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Crashed in a dungeon after breaking out of a cobweb, if whoever was doing fixes on custom is still interested.
https://www.mediafire.com/?50n72j4f7h764ip

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How do I raise my resistance to hexes? Sick of getting Mist of Silence'd.

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>>16717658
You either raise your magic resistance or level up your holy veil spell and cast it before fights. Both methods are not very reliable, so carry a rod of holy light just in case.

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I AM ANGRY
ANGRY ABOUT QUICKLINGS

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>>16717680
Just use magic you dork

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>>16717680

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>>16717810
I have a rod of magic laser but I'm in the Chaos Cradle and a level 140 grass killer is fucking my party's shit up and heals completely when I use it.

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>>16718004
That's why you always carry a rod of change monster.

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>>16718032
Do potions of mutation do the same thing? Because I have several and was planning on using one.

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>>16718038
Yes.

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I know, first world/north tyris problems, but this is an interesting problem for me. Which metal pet to train. I want to train my character's previous master Akeno which was of the metal race with my previous character but what metal pet to use as a base. Changing names and gender of pets is a nonissue with forbidden meat and current options. Hero cheese and magic fruit are non issues too for where I'm at in the game.

Karata is a partial throwback to how metal pets were before their metal bit nerf. cMetal used to resist both magic attacks and physical damage but now it's just physical. Well Karata here is special because he has elemental immunity combined with being metal.

I brought Karata out and blew him up with spells to see if his elemental immunity is true. He's completely immune to all spell damage except magic and water and has 90% physical damage resistance. Both Pro Jet and Karata are melee based metal pets which makes them different than your typical bell. Karata has better speed and attributes but that INI score just makes me imagine how dreadful it's going to be to get AP and the amount of gold that it will devour to visit its trainer.

Picture has Akeno currently using Pro Jet as a base but I could change it easily. At any rate, wanted to bring attention to the new metal pet added to the game. Pet owner veterans further along in the game might be interested in having such a pet. Definitely wouldn't recommend it to people new to the game though as there are much easier pets to raise.

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>>16718190
>Pet owner veterans
already have a decked out team, thank you very much. Though she's interesting, I may put her in a pokeball for the heir.

As for choice, of course Karata, magic immunity + damage reduction > damage reduction

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>>16718256
Let's see if I'm up to the challenge of using Karata as a base then. Already "corrected" her life with the hero cheese I've been farming and used a forbidden meat. The gold cost of training is already horrifying. 600k so far to take her from 40% potential to 100%. She spends about 18.5k gold each tick of visiting her trainer. Wonder what level of the void she starts out to gain AP consistently.

Looks like we both can do with additional pages to the ally list. So who's your favorite pet out of your lineup?

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Actually, it's just the pcc_body_xxx.bmp that suffer from the scaling in the official PCCs pack, the rest is okay to use. I'll change the pastebin description in the next update.

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>>16718457
Thinking about it, my favorite is definitely Frealard the little girl. She's been with me since the very time I first entered Vernis, we've been through thick and thin, and her experience in punching people to death (and by extension, my choice to focus her training in martial arts) saved my arse a lot of times.

She's so good, she's overtaking everyone in my team, so I have to keep her in the bar half of the time to let others catch up in levels. Sadly, my ineptitude in farming left her with rather bad stats, but I'm working to correct that mistake now.

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What's the most efficient way to farm music tickets now that spirits got nerfed?

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Is there any reason to avoid letting a pet learn every skill? Basically, when a pet trains in town, are their potentials increased by a total amount per training event and then divided among the available skills, or are their potentials increased by a certain amount per skill? In the first case it might be favorable to limit a pet to only their most important skills (tactics, weapon, evasion, etc for a melee pet for example) in order to avoid wasting gold on potential for less important skills. In the second case it's definitely better to get them every skill as they would gain attributes quicker for no additional cost.

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>>16718622
No, just give them every skill.

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Is there any consistent way to increase your weight? I've vomited a couple of times and apparently my tall swordsman weighs in at about 30 kg.

I don't even know if there are bad downsides of being this under weight or if it is just like age and meaningless, but now that I've seen it I can't ignore it.

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>>16718622
Last time I looked up the code to check it, I found out that visiting a trainer gives a pet 2% of potential in 7 main stats and 3% in every skill learned, so it's better to give every skill to your pets as soon as possible.

>>16718650
My fairy at some point of her life weighed 1 kg without any downsides. And to gain weight, you basically need to eat as much as you can, and not vomit (vomiting reduces weight).

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Guess most of these metal pets have missing body parts. Fixed her missing body parts by gene engineering random monsters I found in dungeons. Got some decent levels and skills off of them. Still looking for cooking though but I'll get it eventually.

>>16718575
Ah the Valkyrie. She's a cutie. Doing well so far. Good luck with her and the rest of your pets.

>>16718577
Spirits are still the best way to get tickets. You can't use alchemy rain and love potions for them anymore but a high performer skill and the special action preaching can work at getting a star over their heads. I can make almost 20k each party time quest so after two of those quests I have enough to buy a hero cheese/magic fruit.

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Saw this in the last thread, where can I get those character sprites?

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>>16718771
I'd guess they're custom made. Though, my second guess would be from one of the large sprite packs floating about, but that might be insulting to the person if they did indeed make them.

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>>16718771
Saya's sprite I made by heavily editing another sprite I had. Mai's sprite is the default witch evolution of the little girl route found in the game. Akeno's sprite is a lightly edited sprite by simply just changing hair, eye, and ribbon color.

So Mai's sprite you can find in game. The original sprites of the other two can be found in that very large Chinese pack in the mod pastebin. I originally found the sprites on the Elona uploader and on pixiv so you can also go there if you're interested in sprites but that pack mentioned earlier is really good and has a lot of stuff in them.

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>>16718694
Has it been more difficult for you to raise speed or skills for you and your pets? Do you think spending AP on speed is absolutely necessary, or would you rather spend it on skillpoints?

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>>16718650
I think there was some rod that increased weight if cursed.

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>>16718897
If you have enough herbs and speed uppers to restore speed potential you can raise speed just by doing that(and the every now and then drinking of Herme's Blood) and instead spend all AP on bonus points for skill. That's the ideal situation imo. However, depending on circumstances and where you're at in the game, that ideal situation might not be there yet. I wouldn't feel bad about spending AP for speed. Speed is important to have and you should spend enough AP on speed to the point where you think you're fast enough to survive. Despite what I last read in the wiki about the number they have as the AP cap, I reached the supposed cap yet I'm still gaining AP and spending it so I have no idea if there is even a cap to it. Having said that, most of my bonus points come from wonder scroll/wish spellbooks that I use to wish for potions of descent that I bless for levels.

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>>16718897
Forgot to answer the first part. I would say skill is harder. I tend to cap speed long before I cap any skills. This has been true for all of my pets and my character capped speed around the same time he capped casting. No other skills were close to capping besides that though. Just need to spam oracle to cap casting so casting is one of the easiest skills to cap in the game if you keep the potential for the skill high.

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>>16717658
JURE WILL SAVE YOU

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>>16718190
Does karata retain its elemental immunity after being dominated? That's broken as fuck.

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I haven't touched this game more than off and on in ~2 or 3 years (I think E+ 1.27 or 1.36 was the most recent version I played heavily). I was just diddling around NT collecting unique weapons (and gods, once that feature existed) and farming and ranching, basically taking it easy.
Today I decided I should actually try to play the main quest. Turns out my IRL years of inefficiently grinding stats were effective: I obliterated the bosses that hold the Lesimas keys, handily beat the Chaos Fort bosses, and said "heh" when my level 160 magic dart crushed Zeome. Then I beat all the ST key bosses, grabbed the Kumi statue and the mansion etc, and got beat down mightily by Estork in about 4 breath attacks.

So how do I efficiently grind up to where I need to be to kill these ST chaos bosses? I'm thinking:
1. Go back to NT.
2. Build herb farm to eat herbed herbs.
3. Walk back and forth across NT
a. clearing each town's quest board and checking the invested magic vendor for wonder/potential/descent/attribute/growth/flying
b. triggering the Kumi statue for more seeds
c. rushing easy dungeons for little sisters -> more Kumi statues
4. repeat until v. strong

Is there a better way?
Also for skills/spells, should I sandbag a monster or just try to find something relatively benign in the void?

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>>16718941
>the number they have as the AP cap
>I reached the supposed cap yet I'm still gaining AP
It looks like they just took the equation they have for "whether or not you will get AP based on Attribute INI" and worked backward, assuming an all-around 2000 enemy, to get the theoretical maximum. If you've gotten more than 80000 total AP then their equation must be wrong or there must be some other check to it that lets you get AP from a sufficiently strong enemy regardless of your total.

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>>16719037
Before I astral penned Karata I attacked him with every kind of dart, bolt, and ball spell I had and only magic and water damaged him. After I got him as a pet I ran the test again and he was still immune to the above. Even meteored the place and it was still standing. I at first thought eh maybe control magic is at play but I attacked my other pets with spells and they took damage so it looks like yeah it kept it's immunity.

>>16719120
Yeah I looked at their formula several times but I just couldn't reconcile it with what my character has done.

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>>16719187
So in theory karata would be the strongest pet.

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>>16719187
>>16719247
You can expect those resists to go away in 1.67.

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>>16719247
Would certainly be one hell of a wall or tank. I'm kind of glad that building out its resistance is a rather simple task. All into magic since that's its only real weakness that you can fortify.

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>>16719271
Has Ano made any mention of it?

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>>16719299
No, that's just what I think. But if that does happen, Karatas that already exist probably wouldn't be nerfed.

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>>16719310
Time to get a soul spindled karata.

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>>16719310
>Karatas that already exist probably wouldn't be nerfed
I don't know about that, are pets stored uniquely from their originating NPC type?

Based on his 1 Life it probably wasn't a mistake to give him both flags, I guess they just weren't thinking about the minmaxing applications of a low-level NPC which shrugs off every damage type. They could also have given him a useless combat AI if they didn't want him being exploited (not that it would matter in Custom), the fact that they didn't means they either just didn't think about it or don't care. If they don't change it he'll be the probably be the absolute best "end-game" pet around; even if you don't want one on your current character just grab and spindle him for your gene where he'll be even better due to the speed nerf and INI reset.

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>>16719474
I recall in the past with my previous character Ano coming down with the decision to remove the spell damage resistance on metal pets because he thought it might be a bit too much with physical damage resistance. Flash forward to now, it piqued my interest when I saw in the patchnotes a metal creature that had elemental immunity. I found it so strange that this creature pretty much goes against the previous decision Ano made on combining near spell and physical immunity on one creature.

Had to test out the creature with Kai and surprisingly it's exactly what it's stated to be. I have no idea if it was a mistake or intentional but it was just there to be used. If it does get nerfed I'll completely understand and probably switch back over to pro jet but if this was completely intentional this pet certainly will fill the tank role very well. Considering Akeno is supposed to be my near indestructible martial arts teacher for Kai that terrifies him, Karata makes a good base.

I would be absolutely terrified for my character had to fight an army of scaled up Karatas.

>>16719039
A solid plan. Might want to throw in opening up a couple of specialized shops for gold and item trade ins, doing awakened dungeons, taking advantage of artifact fusion, and crafting gear while you're at it. Can't level up spells or skills on sandbagged creatures anymore so you'll want to grind skills, levels, and AP in the void. Your goal might be to eventually crush the demigods of Irva(Amurdad, Sophia, Rovid, etc) for their useful items.

Learn how to level up your skills by looking at this google doc.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p3S16qPZFSdZdQoVF8hjsZf7ovS6H-cpjmSaH2qZn6I/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

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Is the axe of destruction actually any good or not? It seems to actually have really high average damage while twohanded when compared to gaia hammer, I put it on my fire dragon child after giving her hands and generally speaking she whacks things about twice as hard with axe crits than she does gaia hits. Maybe it's just because she always crits, all the time. It's a lot more rare for her to not crit actually.

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Did custom ever get updated or am I still going through every dungeon with the constant fear of the game just closing on me and making me try a different dungeon when something on the level casts a spell

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>>16719885
Use base 1.66 until the guy fixes it if it's happening that much. It has been only one day.

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>>16719848
If it's doing that much damage and you don't care about the resist from the hammer, then use it.

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>>16718190

Apologies for such the long wait, but at the end of the year the computer with all the files in them keeled over and I had to dig through an extremely unsorted hard drive to obtain this. Normally, a development notes section would follow, but the time between completing this and finally getting it upload has been such that I've forgotten most of the fine details. That, and a general writers' block. But anyways, without further ado:

>http://www.mediafire.com/file/gkp4ip2h3s1bb3w - (Level 4800+)

As for everyone else, here is a list of my past map works and quests for those who missed them:

>CNPC Pack 1.2 (Req. 1.62 or higher) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/kd6dym5txs445bo
>Holiday Special Dungeon 2016 (Level 14 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/6zd41rsvwchvgg5
>Blades Inc. (Level 40 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/u31fi1a1i0bhmzd
>Melugas Airfield (Level 120 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/avghxk81eo9bge9
>Ol-moran (City showcase w/ an optional replacement floor for Lesimas) - https://www.mediafire.com/?i18wzpqaoisce6q

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>>16719888
You can use base elona to play with the same save? Not him but I have not played in hope it gets fixed but if I can play with the same save file in the base elona and then switch in the next custom update that would be great.

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>>16721503
You can, Anna, back when she was working on Custom, ensured backward compatibility with base elona+. Of course, make a backup beforehand, who knows what might happen.

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>>16721503
You just have to start the game with elonaplus.exe instead of ElonaCU.exe.

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>>16717417
Did anyone ever manage to convert the old Elona graphics pack to Plus's magnification?

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>>16718650
Kill little girls and eat their blood, the soup of wonderland.
Each time you eat that, it'll bring you closer to 150cm/50kg.

>>16718190
Holy shit, that's one fucking worthy pet to reforge before astral penning !
But let's be realist, that cResElem will probably be lost not even two patch later.

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I knew all that blessed milk I farmed from throwing love potions at people would come in useful.

>>16721438
Very cool. Thanks for your hard work. I look forward to playing it over the weekend.

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Do I have to be in Japanese to use objet of heart?

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>>16723879
It only displays in Japanese yes, though you can technically use a font for your english language setting that supports unicode if you want to see the Japanese and not random jumbled symbols. I use MS Gothic myself.

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>>16723879
Anon.. All the stat names are there, and the + are the bonus to that stat. That's really all you need to know, so it's functional. Though I imagine the rest is in japanese, yes.

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>>16723879
works on my machine

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Are the musical notes looking tiles on map1 used for anything or am I free to make custom ones for autism purposes without fucking up some other part of the world?

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>>16723929
You can place them in your home to play a note as you step on them.

>>16723603
Refer to >>16718523
Everything except body pccs works fine.

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How do I check my actual attribute potentials (not just "superb" etc)?

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>>16724472
Memory editor or crack open your save file with a text editor or elosnack.

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>>16724472
The glasses of Yacatect in the game can let you see the numeric representation of your potential like skills. It's dropped off of the NPC Karavika so it's an end game item.

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Is it typical to farm dozens and dozens of stomafilia/curaria for each of the rare herbs harvested? Can I increase the chance to farm a rare herb? Will selling common herbs in the shop give the chance for shopkeeper to convert common herb to rare one?

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>>16724608
Nope, you'll always have those as a by-product.
Using curarias as a base for herbed food means you can liquidate those over time, and stomafilia i don't know.

Personally i hoard them in my 4D pocket in case i need an emergency filling, like for example when i have no food and get the "you become hungry !" event.
Forcefeeding a cute fairy thanks to an hungry demon is also a viable path, but kinda boring.

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So in the midst of my item description translations, I've found out that the food item 'cbocchi' is actually a Japanese typo. It's supposed to be squash, which the sprite matches up with.

For reference:
カボチ -> カボチャ

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Didn't expect it to end up in an OP paste but there it is, so I felt compelled to update it a bit.
"No" cameos (only mostly) monstergirl sprite sheet, updated for 1.66, fixed up a bit, and with a bit more resource diving done + some actual sprite editing.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/94f1li854usjc1o/character.bmp
>>16723998
Ah, I'd never actually touched the tiles themselves. Good to know before just trying to make custom terrain out of them. I was gonna do that and make a nice looking magic shop. Now I'm not sure what I wanna do there.

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>>16721438
What exactly are those and how do I use them?

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>>16704347
This gif is perfect.
I do the same thing, I hate those annoying fuckers. Using up my limited guest visits to spam degeneracy.

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>>16724780

The majority of these are custom maps, the majority of them user maps with combat encounters for extra challenges beyond what you would find in standard Elona+, modeled after the structure of quests, and can be installed by simply inserting the .PUM file included in each instillation into Elona+'s "user" folder.

A couple of them are also using an experimental method I devised in order to allow the creation of custom multi-floor dungeons by replacing the floors of existing areas, which I'm using Lesimas for for the time being: unlike user maps, they're fully intractable just like any other dungeon in the game!

The included readme files for each map should tell you how to properly install them in-depth, but I'd personally suggest to install Ol-moran first, back up your save, and follow the readme which should teach you both how to use a .PUM file as well as details for the replacement of Lesimas's second floor, and if you can figure that out successfully install the Holiday Special Dungeon; the two "quest" maps are meant for higher-level characters who have completed Act 1 (Blades Inc.) and Act 2 (Melugas Airfield) respectively.

Though technically, Kai's personal quest is downloadable by anyone, unless they're a god-slaying bravado like Kai himself attempting to partake in them will lead to a swift and messy end, though included in the files are a bunch of cutscenes that were posted in the past to explain what exactly is going on to new viewers, as well as an extra which contains monster descriptions for Yacatect's many servants, including card translations for NPCs (the paragraphs lined in "quotation marks"), for those interested in contributing to Elona Custom.

The Custom NPC pack is a pack that contains custom NPCs like Miyana's included in the OP, and works by the same rules.

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Do pets restore speed/luck potential when training in town ?
My guts tell me no.

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>>16726816
Nope

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remove naps

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Whoa. Looks like I got lucky with wandering merchant.

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>>16727865
That's pretty fucking dope
Make sure to change the material later, and fusion it first.

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Probably a dumb question but what is the more reliable method of getting a Spellbook of Mutation: funneling more investment into magic vendors or selling books at my own shop and hoping for trades?

I need one in order to create Another Heart, but have not seen any up until this point.

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>>16728491
If you want max chance you have to do both. But i also recomend praying to RNG since in all of my time playing the only mutation charges i got were from scrolls

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>>16728508
Ah, I thought as much. Out of curiosity, would there be any chance at all a blessed rod of alchemy could change another spell book into it?

I have an extra contingency spell book, and if the wiki is correct those are around the same spell level....

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>>16728491
I suspect you could find one by running dungeons long before you'll make enough money to invest a store up high enough to stock them and then have it actually stock one. I started finding them at probably dungoen level 30 or so.
Certainly before you find one as a shop tradein, assuming shops will even trade in books.
Absolutely before you transmute one with alchemy, assuming alchemy can even produce mutation spellbooks.

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Pets are not affected by ether disease, right? Even if the item says it speeds up the disease they should be fine, right?

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>>16728869
Yeah, the player is the only one ether corruption applies to.

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Is there an npc flag that prevents certain characters from being subservient?

Aile the attendant and a couple other pets seem to be permanently stuck at (-300) ＊Cat＊ and will pick/drink/eat anything no matter how many times I try to stop them

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>>16729506
Don't think so. Not sure how you got yours to cat. Does failing to stop them from eating make them more free will? Haven't seen a pet start lower than peer yet. I found that the denying of pets their food to be a very slow way to raise the master level. Instead, just chucking potions at the pet will increase it much faster. Had to get more milk for my pet Akeno anyways so I didn't mind testing it and seeing if I could get Aile to doge.

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>>16729805
>chucking potions
*love potions

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>>16721438
>>16723668

Ooooo, don't forget to post the results later!

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Welp. I managed to kill Zeome with my no spells character and I am a bit confused to a couple of things.

One, I was only level 36, only 2 of my low level pets died in the fight, my just evolved valkyrie and military putit survived at mostly full health(highest level is 32), and the whole fight from first blow only took like 5 turns. I didn't think zeome was supposed to be that easy to kill. Not that I'm not happy I managed it without much fuss but... it seemed a bit anti climactic.

Two, since I managed this without a farm or anything, how much prep should I do before heading into South Tyris?

And finally, why can't I get my valkyrie to use cheer in elona custom? It doesn't show up at all in abilities, or even give me the option to teach it to her.

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>>16730217
South Tyris's quests are generally higher level, though the main story quest can probably be done to some point, though I typically end up being around level 45-50 by the time I hit it.

As for Custom, have you tried to re-initialize the pet's actions? I recall reading somewhere that that could fix that problem.

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I wonder if Noa would accept to be my wageslave.
He seems to already be a wageslave right now, so i think if i give him the same salary except his job is to focus on games, he'd probably accept.

Noa猫 being a salaryman seems like such a fucking waste.
He got the right mindset to make fun games, with novel mechanics. Well, maybe not really novel, but combine existing mechanics in totally unique way satisfying my particular brand of autism.

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wew

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>>16730914
That's some crazy shit there.

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>>16730934
I also have a sniper rifle with lighting bolt that procs similar to the laser gun.

I got the Guns from the strange scientist and this whip from a random trader

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>>16730942
I really need to check the random traders instead of leaving as quick as possible.
I'd gladly take the karma hit and slaughter the trader for it.

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I guess they got part of the list mixed up?

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Pael's mom was so sick that she was already dead by the time I got there

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AAAAAAAAAAH
My first living weapon in more than 500 hours of gameplay when combining all my characters.
To be fair i never mass-crafted weapons, even though i keep hoarding materials, so it should have happened before.

Of course it's on the martial artist character that won't wield it ever, but still :3

[Anonymous No.]

The bonus to value of equipment due to enchantment level, from the blacksmith, what is it ?
Flat, percentage ?

I have fever dreams about picking a simple stone from the ground, spending a fortune at the blacksmith to bring it to +10, then selling it in your own blacksmith shop for insane profits.
I'll test it once i have disposable income, just putting the idea out there if someone want to test it before i do next decade.

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>>16731983
+1 PV and DV for armor and +1 hit and attack for weapons.

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>>16731983
>>16732056
Wait, you were talking about money, nevermind.

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>>16731983
You won't get profits from selling stones, because metal stone+10 (1d12) costs much less than money spent on enhancing it.

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>>16731945
I always forget to check items for being alive before I get rid of them... I've probably passed over lots of them. All I've got right now is a generic alive rock.

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Can't reach the wiki for some reason. Down for anyone else?

I'm not sure what happens at pet evolutions. Do they just get a new name, sprite, and some extra abilities/stats/res, or do they "transform" into a new entity altogether?

Asking because I'm wondering if feeding pets I plan to evolve will keep their benefits from feeiding and potions of potential etc., or if I should save all that shit for post evolution.

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>>16729805
>>16729506
What is this feature called? I can't remember how it works and all my pets are at 0(peer) status.

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>>16732293
They just get a new sprite and stat boosts or new abilities. If you have a pet that you intend to evolve, there's no penalty for training it up beforehand. Well, if you get its attributes to 2000 then the evolution attribute bonuses will be wasted.

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>>16732308
Thanks for the quick answer.

I derped a sentence there. So I better wait for the wiki to be reachable again to get a shopping list of desireable pets.

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>>16732319
The wiki is working fine in my first world nation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732299
It's called the master/servant relationship mechanic. More submissive pets will not interact with things on the ground, such as eating, without first seeking your permission. Free willed pets of course don't care what you think and will do as they please. Submissive pets also don't resist forced sleeping attempts. The mechanic is kind of redundant at the moment due to the tamer's whip and how the special action squeeze works. Maybe new features will be added to it in the future but for now it's mainly cosmetic and for roleplaying purposes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732369
How do I get their status to change?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732403
I explained a bit of how I got Aile to max here:

>>16729805
>>16729809

I'm not sure how making them more free willed works though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16730278
Thanks for that, I reinitialized her actions and now cheer shows up!

I guess I will wander about South Tyris just to get a lay of the land and start earning AP.

I have an extra question though, is it possible to specifically wish for a Spellbook of Mutation?

It might be a waste, but one of my pets gave me a wish while I was wandering about and if wishing for one works then it will be my fastest ticket to getting a fire fox brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732444
>Mutation will give you potions, scrolls, or spellbooks of mutation, which, unlike evolution, can cause negative mutations.
I recommend making a backup of your save if you're going to wish for it.
Also, be ready to see a spellbook of mutation in a dungeon 30 minutes after making your wish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732660
I very well might, but I went ahead and bit the bullet to try it.

Wishing for "spellbook of mutation" without quotes does indeed give you the spellbook.

I assume this means it works for other spellbooks besides wish, just due to how wishing for rods of wish fails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732709
You may want to read it once first so you can reserve it at the mages guilds spellwriter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732722
Thanks for the advice, but I am trying to see just how far I can make it without casting spells. Closest to that being magic device and feats.

The only spell books I've read were ones to get Reading Party, and then those I read during reading parties to give my 4 pets more Custom AI slots.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the most recent versions I should be using to not have to deal with crashing issues and worse?
I kind of want to start using Elona Custom.

[Anonymous No.]

I need some help /jp/. I'm playing a pet-centric character and I recently got a Great Race of Yith. I have her decked out with four artifact weapons that I took from my Varuna (who is now in the dojo). From observing her attack patterns, she does use them, however, she uses them long after she has finished cast debuffs, and it makes me wonder if I'm wasting the potential of those weapons on her, and should instead get my Varuna back in my team.
Another thing, I gene engineered her a bit too hard with realizing it, and now she has a speed penalty, her speed is still over 140 though, which I hear is a magic number for some reason, should I sacrifice some of her tankiness and get her speed back to normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732907
1.62

[Anonymous No.]

>>16730852
But do you have the money to make someone your wage slave?

[Anonymous No.]

Here are her weapons, the second page contains a the Twin Edge Necklace and A sleep sheep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732912
>17 slots
Holy shit dude, get her ass to Icolle, stat!
>if I'm wasting the potential of those weapons on her
You probably do, she's more suited for taking enemies out of fight with her eye of madness. Also, she's Predator, she'd probably deal more damage unarmed anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did the Unofficial (1.66.2) Alone+Custom get removed from megauploads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733076
Meant Elona+ not alone sry >.<

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733076
Probably because it's buggy at the moment. People are reporting crashes and the author of it is looking into it. If he manages to find the cause of the bugs and fixes it I'm guessing he'll upload a new version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16729805
If you wished for a bunch of miromis, with such a high level, could you get every single feat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733100
Unless there's more than 541 total feats, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16729915
>>16721438

1) I didn't have to go far to investigate the airships spotted in the sky by the shop keepers in South Tyris. One of them landed on my front lawn.

2) Upon stepping forth two gunships came into view and immediately started to spray us with bullets. Mai and Saya were hurt very badly in the first hail of bullets. Despite how strong they were, if one spray can cut their HP in half they would be a liability instead of help.I told Saya and Mai to retreat back into our home and that I would go out there myself.

3) I proceeded to charge at the two gunships while they sprayed me with bullets. My magical barrier(AP trait) kept me safe while I blasted the gunships with magic storm to bring them down.

4) When the two gunships fell from the sky another gunship quickly appeared along with golden armor golems and tanks. In the distance I saw an airship and many golems and tanks pouring out of it.

5) While dealing with the enemies before me the leader of the group, Father Yorgen, met me on the field. He would teleport around throwing spells at me and throwing out challenges. Unfortunately, the army that was quickly surrounding me kept me from dealing with him. I would have to slay the army before me.

6) I slowly fought my way to the front of the ship and it became abundantly clear that I needed to stop using magic. I needed the MP to keep my barrier up and to stay on the offensive. I decided I would use swarm, attribute, and clear mind to take out this army with my martial arts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733406

7) Eventually I made my way onto the airship and killed the people on it.

8) While exploring the ship I came in contact with the cannons. In the process of attacking me the airship was damaged.

9) The cannons shot their nuclear warheads at me causing great damage to my barrier. At this point I noticed my barrier was weakening which could mean that the fight ahead could go bad.

10) I managed to slay the rest of the army on the airship and decided that the weapons room on the airship would be the place I would face Father Yorgen one on one.

11) At this point in time my barrier shut down. I would have to make use of healing spells now to heal myself and I would have to pay attention to running low on MP. No MP means no healing and my eventual defeat. The fight with Yorgen lasted quite awhile. He would heal himself, teleport around while shooting spells at me, and engage me in melee. Since he was using spells I decided to see if I could stick a mist of silence on him. It was hard getting the hex to stick but I eventually got the hexes on him. It was very important for me to land that hex near the end of the fight as he would heal up. Eventually I managed to defeat him and stood triumphant. Although the airship is badly damaged, maybe I can have head of R&D Elga fix it up or reurpose it.(Redesign a property as an airship).

12) Installation was easy and no problems occured. Just put the pum file in the user folder and went to the showroom to begin this adventure. I found it pretty fun and I enjoyed myself. Thank you for creating this. I look forward to your other works. Total damage Kai took on the map: 12,119,365. My pets definitely need more HP. I'd farm more hero cheese for them and level them up some more but right now I'm working on Akeno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16732064
Mmmh, so it must be percentage, with multiplicative effect.
Something like 1.5^10, maybe.
This probably means it's extremely worth it with wings and panties and others high base item, but since at 2000 negotiation a pet can only sell for up to 505000gold per item, it's probably not wise to go up to +10 enchantment.
In fact, even +2 or +3 would hit 505000gold with panties, assuming it is indeed 1.5^(enchantment level).

Meh, less hassle to just raid the magic vendors and sell the scrolls, book and potion anyway, not worth bothering all that time spent raising enchantment level of trash probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733100
I do have every feat in the game so far on Kai. Unless things have changed, there is a certain level you get to where you stop gaining feats from leveling. After that point, the only way to get further feats is wishing for miromis. So if you wish enough you can get all the feats in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733891
I was just wondering if there was a hard limit to the number of feats you can get via miromis, just like the hard limit to the feats you get by leveling. It's neat that there is not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16733414
How many simultaneous nuke strikes would be necessary to take out Kai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16734082
More than they had.

You'd likely need to have at least 1.5 times as much pure damage output than that custom adventure had, considering they barely managed to wear down his mana barrier.

And that was with him blasting them with spells for seemingly the first half of the fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16734082
Depends on the actual nuke. Going by the canons on the airship. About 268 nuclear rounds would be needed. Sounds like a lot but if there's a lot of cannons and they get multiple attacks per round it could be achieved.

[Anonymous No.]

I just converted to Yacatact and hit enter on the altar but none of the jewely in my inventory is listed, just usable items. What's wrong? Is it my heresy hex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735118
Dear follower of Yacatect,

Yacatect is currently emotionally compromised so she will not be taking any offerings at the moment. When she will be back in office is TBA.Necklaces and Rings are her favorite offerings so when she gets back in please have them on you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735152
Wait, Yacatect and shops are both broken?

I smell a conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735159
Don't know what's going on with Yacatect but shops should be working right in 1.66

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735118
Why not press "O" like god intended?

[Anonymous No.]

I picked a black angel recently to train, reason being boost + speed + lulwy's trick combo, for maximum speed. It sort of works, and my newly-established herb farm helps a lot in training her attributes. On the other hand, I spent most of my gold training her.

Don't be like me, anons. Get statues of Kumiromi from the strange scientist, not happy apples.

>>16733833
You don't even need to enchant shit now, given that enemies already drop enchanted items. Just go dungeoneering, pick up equipment, change material into something expensive if the base item itself sells well (like speed rings), then pawn it at your blacksmith shop.

[Anonymous No.]

Aww.
Tried to take on the magic guildmaster, couldn't do shit because of blind, and my lowish speed.
Tried to teleport away, but for some reason i couldn't read the scrolls.

Oh well. I deserve it for not getting status resistances.
For some reason, i placed stat maintains in higher priority than status immunities, this was quite the harsh lesson for this humble retarded faggot.

Rest in RIP, living staff. This wasn't made to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735651
>couldn't read the scrolls
>because of blind
yeaaahhhhh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735663
Oh. Yeah. That's probably it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16734082
It's funny how Anorexia or starving is a stronger attack than nuke against Kai.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, this time i'll try a twohand claymore golem.
No restrictions though, while it was kinda find to use no magic and limit myself to liquids for food, it was painful at times, and the impossibility to use herbed food was stressing me when thinking about the future.

Also, no defender ( if i need the death ward, it means i'm not savable in the first place ), but a cute fairy for passively producing seeds as i go into dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16736334
How far did you make it in that previous run if you don't mind me asking?

I've been doing a no magic 2 handed run, but I couldn't imagine no food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16717680
>>16718004
>>16718038
Update: Went back to the Chaos Cradle, threw a potion of mutation at stormbling, missed, pet one-shot it immediately afterwards.
Eh, fine by me I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Bloodyshade has uploaded a 1.66.3 release, with latest translation progress. He has tested it with one or two of the saves that were given to him, and it hasn't crashed, so hopefully it'll work this time.
https://mega.nz/#!x9wgxK4L!jBjARMUhZJC8hBeuWlpv2jAx9f_9p4QxxWhEVNzeEOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>16736334
>634cm tall Saber

That's terrifying. You probably are the calamity yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm only level 45, how effective would it be to curse and melt all of Ultima's gear before fighting her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16735291
Why did Jure never ask this of me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16737785
Maybe you didn't pick up the nine god sign so the game assumes you want to use that?

[Anonymous No.]

why are pixies so horrifying goddamn

[Anonymous No.]

>>16737437
Hour in and no crashes so far. Customized an AI for my witch Mai, went to the void, and did some crafting. While the customized AI works just fine and I haven't experienced a crash yet, I did find a minor bug. Minor because it's avoidable.

In the picture I'm sharing I customized Mai, a witch that had Leold teach her variable storm, with a specific action routine. When enemies appear I wanted her to check if my character had Hero running and if not, use the special action cheer. She would then approach the target if they were far way and when she got a certain distance spam magic storm. Once the monster got into melee range she would poke the monsters instead of use magic storm.

While customizing the first if then statement for cheer, everything was working well until I got to the comparator. When choosing the comparator you can select a) Not Set b) = c) != and d) Back. When I hit the c key on my keyboard what showed up was the > sign instead of the != sign. I wanted the != sign. Not the > sign. I also noticed that if I hit the b key on my keyboard I got the < sign instead of the = sign.

The work around I found was to just to use the direction keys to highlight the != sign in the menu and to press enter. So I did that and now everything works fine. So I just wanted to share that minor bug. Aside from that I'm pretty happy with things so far in Custom. Glad to be able to see store restock timers and the exact amount of gold pets are spending on their training sessions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16738231
No I've had one for a while. For Mani I had to hit 'o' to offer guns, but then I upgraded to 1.65 and Jure let me offer stones with enter or space. I figured it was a quality of life update but maybe there is something wrong with Second Best Goddess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16738431
Pet AI is so broken, sometimes I'm not even sure if using it is playing fair.

[Anonymous No.]

Are shop safes still broken in 1.66? I don't wanna have to pick this 4m up until I absolutely need it

[Anonymous No.]

My pet died permanently in inferno mode despite the option for that checked off. Maybe a problem with the unofficial custom?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16738744
The gold problems in the safes and trade in problems in 1.65 seems to be fixed in 1.66. Have made around 42 million gold so far from my shops and I haven't touched the gold in my safe yet. When I sell a spell book I sometimes get a spell book trade in and when I sell equipment I sometimes get the equivalent trade in. So looks like things are working in 1.66.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16738840
This might be due to the removal of the harvest time tweak, try reloading the save and re-setting all the "Gameplay" tweaks, it might be reading old values from the save.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16738899
The toggles effect the tweak above it and you cannot toggle the permanent pet death one. Probably ought to post that in the forum thread.

[Anonymous No.]

So how does teaching pets with elona+ AI customization work? I'm trying to teach my defender cheer and my fire dragon child body blow, but spamming cheer a bunch didn't push the defender up to 1% and neither has taking them through some random dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16736489
Mmmh, hard to gauge.
40 hours, level 30, 90-120 for each stats, 6 farms, 1 shop, only missing three skills ( unfilfilled goal behind my death ! ), probably could have taken out Zeome since i had a #####+ nether gloves set aside in my inventory.

It was a gene though, with the main bonus being the 177 blessed potions of potential and miracle equipment covering all stat maintains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16738909
Should be all fixed now, new version on the site or on mega: https://mega.nz/#!40AEgACb!129oecm_yPbQ2qnB_Gsk7838FOUSscN4_eTulJXAzao

[Anonymous No.]

>>16739195
Sorry, updated mega link: https://mega.nz/#!8wpxiABT!uFECznSkv7q8R2P3fnxudbduuoh_z5b9s8CSGH03oIk

[Anonymous No.]

Big anti-savescum changes bound for 1.67. I, for one, like what I'm hearing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740029
That 1000% raise for rare drops makes me peepee hard tbf

[Anonymous No.]

Are geese always female? I have a thing going here where all my pets are cute and girly. I got her in the truce grounds and can't go to town to investigate her or it autosaves.

[Anonymous No.]

This is embarrassing. Not until now did it occur to me that I had a stamina battery right next to me. Instead of using vampiric ability on my enemies to recover my stamina I could have just nibbled on Saya like Slayer does in the fight openings in Guilty Gear with his wife. Going for the enemies jugular is probably still better but at least nibbling on your pets can be interesting if you have a talk file.

>>16739217
Thanks for the link. Also thanks for your work Bloodyshade. Pet AI comparators seem to be working the way they should now and game seems stable. Haven't crashed yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740100
Talk to it, sex is specified around the name.
>>16729506
>>16729805

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740029
Where do I go to hear about all the changes upcoming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740118
It took you some time to figure that. I was using a pet bell as an infinite stamina battery back in 1.28.

>>16740178
"Changelogs" link in the pastebin, in the thread for 1.66.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740118
does using it on her cause any relationship drop?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740255
None. Although if you overdo it and drain to death then perhaps there will be one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16736489
Oh yeah i forgot, if you're into farms, pick up the plant knowledge feat !
Violent garden is AWESOME to kill rooms of chaff in no-magic runs !
( at least in north Tyris, no idea what is the scaling after that )

[Anonymous No.]

Does kumiromi take rotten and cooked vegetables at full value or do I need to put a farm up next to the Truce Grounds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740351
Could test it by using the nine god sign item.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the formula for throwing furniture and objects known ?
Will throwing shits ever be endgame worthy ?
Is throwing safes at an inner god ever something they'll notice ?

[Anonymous No.]

New person here: So I've downloaded Elona+ 1.62 and Elona Custom 1.62.2, I assume I don't need the elona+.exe in the first one? Because the latter has a different .exe under the name of "elona" instead of replacing the "+" one and is not named "elona+" or "elona custom" something I find a tad odd.

[Anonymous No.]

Charisma - invest 50
Magic - Casting Oracle
Learning - Harvest farms + Pet fusion
Will - Magic capacity
Constitution + Strength - Sasumata gauge release, pole CON tactics STR
Dexterity + Perception - Bow gauge release after Sasumata buildup, dow DEX marksman PER

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740550
Make sure you get the latest version of Elona Custom (1.66.3HF) or you may run into some crashes. It's named ElonaCU because CU is the first two letters of custom, but yes you run that exe, though you may want to keep the original exe's around just in case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740600
>Some crashes
The pastebin says the 1.62s are the Stable though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740608
Oh, my bad, ended up skimming the version numbers you wrote and misread them. That being said, the latest version of the unofficial custom releases are stable as well now, if you want to use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740612
Is it really stable though?
Not that anon and I definitely don't want to say anything bad about bloodyshade since he is awesome for working so hard trying to port custom.

But the other 2 1.66 releases were supposed to be stable, but people found issues. I'd say just to hold off for like a day if someone wants to only play a stable version. That should be a good bit of time for people to go through and see if there are any random strange crashes or bugs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740643
Been playing for a couple hours now with no problems that I've seen, but yeah if you want to play it safe there's nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740600
Just a small nitpick, but the CU is for Custom Unofficial ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740600
>>16740608
I do get some crashes if I alt tab out for a while and then try to do something. It's not particularly frequent or reproduceable, but it happens on 1.66cu while it didn't on 1.66.

[Anonymous No.]

I need some help, I took a sprite from the monster girl sprite sheet and made some edits to it for one of my pets. I made sure to check Do Not Write Color Space Information every time I exported a edited image, I'm trying to put it in the user folder.
This is not the first custom graphic I made for the user folder, and I edited my sprite sheet a bit and that works fine, but I'm wondering if there is a way to fix this without having to redo everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16740517
Try throwing trees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16742714
Update: I tried to insert it into a sprite sheet and that crashes Elona as well, the file size itself is also a bit larger than my other custom bmp, so I think color space information got written to it. Anyone know of a way to remove embedded information from a picture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16742606
I let it idle for hours at times and have yet to see this happen, also if it isn't reproducible/frequent you might just have gotten "lucky" with it not crashing in vanilla 1.66

[Anonymous No.]

I'm laughing at how much gold I'm spending on my pet. 3 million gold to take her from hopeless to 400% superb potential. I'll be spending around this much each training session. I can't wait to see what the final price tag is when I add up all the training sessions. I'd scream, "Why have you forsaken me Yacatect!" but I kind of already know the answer.

>>16742606
Haven't experienced any crashes from alt tabbing yet with the CU HF. I play in both window and full screen depending on how much multitasking I have to do. I frequently alt tab to change playlists or podcasts. Hopefully I won't run into a crash because of the save scum penalty in Inferno but if I do I can farm hero cheese to bounce back.

A long time ago when I had a similar problem, for some reason the problem dealt with sprite sheets and making sure I took all the custom content I had in a prior version and making sure it was now in the appropriate folders in the new version. Had to get rid of outdated stuff too. For some reason I stopped having crashing when I alt tabbed back then so maybe it was a sprite issue.

>>16742714
Make sure it's in .bmp format.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16742714
>>16742936

Sprite should work. I basically saved your picture as a .bmp file and named it Pic_20 since Pic_18 for me is already being used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16742936
That's very helpful.

Anyway, I figured it out, the image was written with a 32 bit depth rather than a 24 bit depth that other Elona ready images had, I re-exported it and it works like a charm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16742398
Close enough I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have any good talk files for pets? I've made a couple custom ones, but I wouldn't mind having some more to spice things up a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

I summoned Jure to get the Rance and Satsuma, then converted to Yacatect and dropped ~rings I had been saving for her on her altar in a ploy to summon both of the high sex market-value goddesses in the same month. Apparently this isn't allowed? The coin shows up on the altar but she doesn't appear, so I guess I need to wait another year for the secret last skill lowering gift from her?

[Anonymous No.]

There any easy pets I can pick up to gene engineer carpentry onto something with? Wiki doesn't have anything at a glance on the gene engineer or carpentry pages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16743938

I think ents have carpentry.

Also, just got this from a generic hunting quest. Going to have to see if that spell enhance is any higher than the void scythe or staff of insanity that I'm wielding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16743847
One god per november, man.

[Anonymous No.]

Will I ever find a weapon better than a god weapon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744223
In damage dices, probably not.
In enchantments, especially invokes, nothing beat a living weapon with no enchantment aside from living which have been tailored through artifact fusion, or a lucky god/eternal force weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, I was wondering if I could get some advice on where to go from here because I am a little confused how to proceed.

I'm doing a no spells, 2 hand sword/magic device only, pet run because I liked the rp possibilities.

I've mostly been wandering about doing job board quests and low level dungeons. No real grinding or farming.

I decided to try my luck with the Crypt of the damned and blew through it getting my last key. Then I went down through Lesimas just to see how far I was from fighting zeome. My unevolved pets and I took him down, then I killed the Chaos Child for his sword.

I've always heard south tyris was hell compared to North Tyris so I decided to wander around the map, but avoid accepting any quests. Well I accidentally agreed to the pirate quest, and wound up beating it only losing 3 of my pets to the captain.

Since that was a level 100 quest and I was level 36 I decided to try my luck with other quests. I've easily done Nightmare, The Miromi Statue Quest, Revenge Mountain, and defeated my first void boss.

Basically I have no idea what I should be doing since the actual levels of the quests don't seem to mean much. So, from my parties stats what should I prioritize right now? Get an herb farm steady with the statue for Herb Ins? Try to grind ap? Should I just throw myself at the chaos forts and South Tyris until something kicks my face in? Or something else?

[Anonymous No.]

What's the general opinion on Armor?
I speak of Light vs Medium vs Heavy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744326
Heavy has the best PV, and gives the best ability for tanking. Perfect for pets or any PC not intending to rely on casting. The spell failure rate's not that bad if you just need casting for buffs.
Medium has the best ability for casters, and the minor cast chance hit isn't an issue if you're a Warmage and don't make it worse by dualwielding or having a shield.
Light is honestly pretty meh unless you're 'tistic about never ever failing a cast or are a fairy with no better options.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think I even wanna deal with this

[Anonymous No.]

Now that I've cleared the preliminary work for my pet Akeno, it's time for me to have Kai craft some living lightsabers for Akeno. Too bad the theoretical perfect living weapon is not feasible to craft in Inferno Mode(All in magic attack). Looks like I'm going to have a rainbow(all elements) lightsaber no matter what I do. Since save scumming is punished in Inferno, ideal lightsaber creation is affected but I also wonder if anyone has actually made a successful mutant in Inferno mode.

I have my adamantium material kits on standby for my living lightsabers. Considering material kit spawn rates are going to be upped next patch, I can craft some starter living lightsabers in the meantime for Akeno to use and not feel too bad about using up the good stuff while I craft more later in the hopes of getting better living lightsabers.

>>16744223
God weapons as in the ones you get as rewards for offering up enough good stuff to the gods? If that's the case, then there definitely are better weapons out there.

>>16744298
The Chaos Forts in the south will be a humbling experience for a lot of recent arrivals to South Tyris. Especially if you vs Siva or Yerleswood. If you're having an easy time with the quests I guess you can try the chaos forts but my gut tells me you're going to be in for a painful time if you try to kill them at your current point.

Now that you're in South Tyris, you've probably solved your money making problems, potential problems, corruption problems, mutation problems, and you should be well on your way to solving your resist and immunity problems. The South Tyris part is now all about understanding how to get stronger, attributes and skills, and putting things into motion that will strengthen your character and team.

Setting up herb farms is definitely one thing you should be doing. AP collection is important so doing high enough dungeons or the void is a good idea. Work on increasing your speed with AP and possibly picking up the special AP traits. Ditto for your pets. Once your speed is sorted through AP or some other way like Hermes Blood, Speed Uppers, Herbs, etc then I would look into AP to bonus points but you really want to get a lot of speed on your character or things in the future will be rough. So yeah herb farms and AP gathering should be your main activities for now.

Before I even set foot in Lost Irva/beat South Tyris I had grinded up my dungeon danger level to 500. Due to the dungeon gold nerf, I guess it's not as important to get it that high anymore but if you can do those kind of dungeons you should be pretty powerful and can deal with most challenges the story up to this point can throw at you. Also nobody in my book can really call themselves a veteran adventurer until they've experienced the joy of bringing down their first Atlus, Stag God, or Five Head God. I knew I was pretty happy when I achieved that milestone. It was exciting for me to go fist to fist with an Atlus. One of the times in my Inferno run where my run could have been cut short.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the percentage chance for triggering elemental damage on weapons ?
The invoke page only list, well, invokes.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Invoke
And the equipment attributes don't say no nothing about it.
Considering how invoke works, it would be safe to say elemental damage have a fixed proc rate with the ## determining strength of the elemental conversion, right ?

25% is my gut feeling when i use one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744723
>elemental damage
100%, but it won't trigger if the physical damage or a preceding type of elemental damage kills the target.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744730
Holy shit.
I see, it makes sense since i'm a coward keeping to fighting weak stuff so i didn't understand it sooner.
So i should completely forget about cramming invoke darkness bolt and focus on that sweet #### magic damage for artifact fusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744655
Actually I don't feel I should be ready for S Tyris. That's why I'm a bit concerned I've made it this far. I was just looking for guidance since:

I have yet to make more than 500k gold up until this point, and now I am saving for the maid mansion I have managed to make 700k over the course of an in game month.

I was still trying to get my shops in port kapul where my house is set up leveled in rank when I beat Zeome. I have a single magic vendor up to 160, and a black market salesman invested in that I can't really afford the equipment from.

I have a decent set of resistance(nothing below normal, 5 in the superb range) by pet crafted armor and static artifacts.

I keep up potential with breakfast and platinum.

I protect against mutations with a godly dawn cloth fairy hat of see invisible creatures.

The only thing I reliably have under control is corruption.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744788
Seen people beat Zeome as early as level 30 but people usually beat him at a higher level. Could possibly beat him earlier if inheritance and bells are used. Not necessarily a bad thing that you beat it as early as you did. You now have access to the AP, more towns and their job boards for quests, and more vendors. All very good things. I rushed South Tyris access for these things.

At any rate, seems like you have a good understanding of what's important and you seem to have ideas on what to work on. I'd say trust your hunches on what you're supposed to work on. You're probably right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744835
Lowest I've gone for Zeome was 26, with necromancy.
Though, I beat Frisia at 25 so I'm sure I could have handled Zeome a lot earlier.

Level is surprisingly meaningless if you're a pet-focused character. I'm sure that with a bit of hard work you could get a Little Sister to Zeome-slayer status before breaching the double digits yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth using a soul spindle for a lower INI value?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16745531
Just for it, no.
If you're going to reroll through a gene anyway, yes !

[Anonymous No.]

>>16744876
I guess I just took for granted how much strength numbers give you. Especially with custom pet AI.

>>16744835
Alright then I guess I'll just try and get herbs consistently flowing, while dungeon diving and putting junk in my shop to offset my money problems while saving to buy the mansion.

I do have a couple extra pet related questions though.

One, how much life is considered reasonable for a pet? I've been funneling hero cheese into my fox brother so he's now up to 62, but the next lowest is my valkyrie with 80. Would that be a good stopping point for him?

Also how can I make my valkyrie more efficient? She had shadow step, hiryuto, and the pirate shining wave cutlass and can mince stuff when in range. But since she cheers the rest of the party her speed is lower during combat than everyone else. I've given her 43 speed worth of speed rings that's helped slightly. Should I pull her aside to grind ap until she is fast enough to keep up?

Also I just realized ap training the fox brother is gonna take forever.

[Anonymous No.]

I challenge this thread to a cook off! Show me the greatest dishes Irva has ever known!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746726
>(Rank9)
What's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746726

>>16746744
Its the rank that determines the quality of your cooked food(example: charred meat=1; steak=9; sherbert=5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746370
62 life is really low, for reference, the three pets that follow me around have 150+ life, I used to run around with 12 pets but they kept dying and it get really costly (I tend to go in dungeons way over my level).

If he stands in the back and shoots spells the whole time, 100 will be sufficient, in the case he gets hit by some AoE breath attack that really stings.

I would consider putting some health into your Valkyrie straight away, since she would be on your front line, since AP is easy to gain with little girls it would be better for you to get health on her through that than through hero cheese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746821
I should really check my facts before I use them. No, you can't get health for AP, for some reason I thought you could, and for a reasonable amount of AP. Just hero cheese your fox brother to 80, then get the valk to 100, then get the brother to 100 and then the valk to 120.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746821
Alright then guess I'll need to ap grind all my other pets for life too. The only pet that has even hit 100 life is my putit tank.

Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746867
>>16746899
Woops just noticed that. Ok, big daddy hunting for hero cheese on all my pets it is then.

So 100 for the ranged pets, 120 for the melee to start off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746914
Yep, that will be good to start. It really depends on how far you want to take that party, as you level up, you will find other monsters that can potentially make monstrous pets right from the get go (like a spiral king.) But, you do get the AP gain advantage when you build a team from the ground up.

[Anonymous No.]

How many pure corruption potions do you need to give Pael's Mom before she is cured? I've been giving them to her for a while now and it simply repeats the normal dialog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747080
I honestly am gonna try to go all the way with them. I know that might not be the best or efficient method, but I've enjoyed this run and my little stories I've made up to quit on my current team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747111
I gave her like two or three and came back to Noyel after about four years (because of the timeskip when you beat the final boss of the current part) and she was cured.
Also, her dialogue for curing her is still machine translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746370
I think baseline stats of 100 in life and mana for pets is enough for most of the game. If you can get more that's always good though. My first pet I worked on for this character, Saya, is an Elea Warrior and she had 90 life for a very long time before I upped it a bit recently. Didn't have many problems with her so if you can get life and mana in the 90 to 100 range you'll be golden. Hero Cheese, Ruby equipment, and evolutions can help get you to your target.

If your Valkyrie is checking to see if your party has cheer first and then shadow stepping to her enemies, that might be as efficient an AI as you can get her.

Since she's dual wielding it is very important for her to have access to multiple attacks in one action. Ideally the weapons would have timestop and deal lots of magic damage as well. So any equipment that has the stat saying, "additional attack chance." should be given to her if your character doesn't need it.

The weapons you're using now for your Valkyrie is fine but eventually you may want to transition to living lightsabers like I'm doing with Akeno and run a good material kit through them. By using an Ether(Pets are not affected by ether gear and the corruption it brings) or Adamantium material kit you can get a lightsaber up to 2d15 damage with 100% pierce. Having two living lightsabers doing 2d15 damage, with lots of magic damage, with a dual wielding pet doing 8 attack an action, should be pretty good.

Once you're done taking care of your characters speed, then you might want to consider raising your Valkyrie's speed through AP. After that, use AP to bonus points. The core skills of a dual wielder are tactics, dual wield, and weapon skill of choice. I would first shove all bonus points into tactics to aggressively increase her damage. Once tactics is around 500 I would then do weapon skill of choice and bring that up to 500 and last dual wield. Although I recommend tactics first, if you're having problems hitting then put points in weapon skill of choice and dual wield until you're hitting fine then go back to upping your damage.

If fox brother's INI is still around the numbers of the god reward pets it shouldn't be too bad. Higher INI to me usually translates into meaning that I'll have to spend more gold on them for training fees and that they'll need to start off fighting higher level enemies compared to their lower INI pets which can start with weaker enemies to gain AP. Part of the reason why I train only one pet at a time and bench the rest is for that reason. I get a pet to a certain level of skill and attributes then I work on the next pet.

If I was in your shoes, I would be benching everyone and first working on the pet with the lowest INI score/easiest to train. By the time I'm done training said pet to a certain skill and attribute level, both my pet and my character should be stronger and further along in the game. This means that I'll have more resources such as more gold/ability to generate more gold, can do higher level dungeons/harder void floors, more materials to craft things, more vendors to buy goods, etc. With access to more resources, training that higher INI score pet shouldn't be as hard.

That's just me though. By all means do what you think is best for your party based on your circumstances. Do what works for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747111
It's time based, not number based. I only gave 2 before she cured.

I'm not sure how many though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746726
The one page limit of pets makes me sad. I already have my pet Saya, Mai, and Akeno on standby along with with 3 shopkeepers. Also have some home stayers. I want to add at least one more pet to my attack team too. Think I have only 1 to 3 slots open to actually farm little sisters.

If the pet number wasn't so restrictive, I would so create one hell of a steakhouse. Set up my ranches, feed my cows beer and constantly brush them and massage them, and once they've lived a decently long and pleasant life I would slaughter them. Sell my Wagyu in my inn or set up a property to be a steak house. Watch the gold come in and at the very least, know that my character will be coming home from a long day at the dungeons to a good meal. But no steak house for me sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16746726
cursed rotten slime grotesque meat -10

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747635
You forgot to mix poison into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747635
Still better than the average birthday present.

[Anonymous No.]

Send help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747726
Oh shit, I forgot there were gates down there. And here I was searching all over Tyris waiting for them to respawn again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747184
Thanks for the detailed reply!

I was using a blessed +10 diablo before I got the Mourbeblade, so I will probably give that to the her for timestop. I just remembered I gave my defender twin edge forever ago to try and proc healing rain with the holy lance. I'll just trade out their necklaces and that should also give her a boost.

Fire Fox Brothers ini is 275/204. I'll just have to work harder with him.

I'm probably going to do what you said and try to give each of them some personal training. But if you don't mind I have a couple more questions.

Would you recommend me spending my ap immediately on speed, or would it be worth it to try and get barrier early since I don't use my mp for anything but the occasional mp breath?

And lastly, I've had my defender using a crafted shield that gives him nullifies damage taken to make him tankier which seems to work since he is my only pet that survived the Cat Queens onslaught when I fought her last night. I wanted to try and teach him shield bash so I could eventually teach him the new shield skill from the past couple of updates, however the option doesn't show up. Is that feat simply not teachable in custom or am I missing some requirement?

Seriously thank all you guys for the advice though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747948
If you're having survivability issues, get barrier. If you're not going low on HP, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747948
It's not worth getting barrier if you don't get two shot by your enemy, as the MP to HP efficiency is much higher on your healing spell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16747948
Barrier without a doubt is a good trait to have. That point was driven home to me in the custom adventure made for Kai where Father Yorgen and his army did 12 million+ damage. I'm happy that went to my barrier instead of to my HP.

Barrier is a pricey AP purchase though. It costs 2000 AP. Alternatively with 2000 AP, you can increase your speed several times, 20 points each, or get 100 bonus points to spend on skills. For a pet it's 30 points each for AP to speed and 400 bonus points to be used on skills.

The way barrier works is that damage goes to MP instead of HP. When your MP is reduced to a 1/3 of the total amount barrier shuts off. Due to this, barrier's value improves as you level up, and possibly use magic fruit, to get more MP. So depending on your level and mana attribute, barrier might not be as valuable early on since the actual amount your MP can be used to shield you might not be considerable enough to justify the purchase.

So one of the factors of whether it is time to pick it up is if you have MP to burn. This factor is doubly important to consider for spell casters who use their MP to also attack. If you're not a spellcaster then you need to weigh whether or not the amount of current MP that acts as a damage sponge is worth putting off for a bit an increase in speed and skills.

Getting barrier was one of my later purchases for both my character and pets. I mainly focused on raising speed and skills. As I leveled my character and my pets got stronger, it became easier and easier to justify the purchase of barrier. So eventually I got barrier.I just didn't get it immediately. So that's what I did but if you want to just get it out of the way for peace of mind that's understandable too.

I didn't see the shield parry as a teachable special action on any of my pets. Shield bash itself I think is now a gauge attack for shield wielders.

[Anonymous No.]

This is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

Well since no one has mentioned crashes I guess it's finally time to update from 1.62.

I'm suppose to save in town right?

Then copy my save folder, extract elona+ 1.66, extract custom and drag it into the elona+ 1.66 folder, then copy my save folder into it?

Just making sure I don't screw this up since it has been forever since I updated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16749325
That's how you do it. Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16749325
I think you're supposed to save in the wilderness or something so any potential irregularities created by the upgrade are lost as soon as you exit to the world map.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a particularly good level range to find an executioner? I've been dicking around in a 25 for ages initializing floors and haven't seen one. They're only level 19.

[Anonymous No.]

Were the gravity related feats removed in 1.65 or 1.66?

I just got a new feat, but the toughness AND gravity feats aren't listed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16750110
The gravity related special actions are still around. The label for the feat might not be right though. Check the 1.63 changelog.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you wish for the super lure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16750296
It's precious, so you probably can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16736334
>763 kg
THICC

[Anonymous No.]

should I spend bonus points as the need arises emergently (to keep potential up), or save them up for later?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753503
Save them up, your more deveoped skills will become more expensive so you can use your skill points on them and spend your platinum coins on cheaper skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753535
When's a good time to use bonus points?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753569
Whenever you want a skill higher to meet crafting prereqs, ability prereqs, or just want a reprieve from the normal grind.

Sure a point is better later than now, but a point now does improve your abilities and let you do harder things and get that much closer to herb spamming / godslaying / AP farming / etc. And levels come easy later on, so you'll be drowning in bonus points lategame anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753728
Thank you for advice. I'm doing early farming, and my potential is around 50% after doing all the harvesting quests, don't have platinum to spare since I'm still learning new skills. I also want to boost travelling, but I guess that'd be stretching the points a bit too thin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753749
I personally feel Travelling is trivial to grind, since you can just grab a bunch of food cargoes (or actual food, for stat exp) and run in circles on the world map until out of food.
I wouldn't spend anything on Farming though. Even if you only invest plat when it falls below 10% potential, you can still get it sky high easily by just buying half a dozen farm deeds and planting the vegetable and fruit seeds you get tons of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753824
Already put points into gardening, oh well. I don't know what skills are hard/easy to train, and don't want to read wiki, may as well roll with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753824
You can do that around Noyel too, the snow feed you automatically and when too sleepy you fall asleep on your own anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753864
There's a point to remember : the monsters that sometimes spawn on your farm are scaled from your gardening skill.
You can easily think what happens when your gardening is at 200 while everything else is barely at 20.
This happened to me, it wasn't pretty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16734082
I have a similar question. How many chestnuts would it take to bleed kai to death, assuming that he didn't just annihilate the thrower while this was in progress and the chestnuts all actually hit him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16754292
Doesn't any heal spell remove bleeding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16753569
The early few points for performing/cooking to raise the success rate is quite useful too.

[Anonymous No.]

What level did you kill Zeome? I got him at 43 for the first time but I wonder what the lowest somebody has ever killed him at is.

[Anonymous No.]

I wasn't aware killing Zeome early was some form of accomplishment, I'm like 90ish still on the first continent from derping around playing on and off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16754703
If gene characters count, 1.

If not, I've gone down to 26 but could easily have gone a lot lower. That character had absolutely no reason to off Zeome until she got to 2k AP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16754732
Ｋｉｎｄａ　ｗａｎｔ　ｔｏ　ｔｒｙ　ｍｙ　ｈａｎｄ　（ｓ　：ＤＤＤＤＤＤ　）　ａｔ　ｔｈａｔ　２７　ｂｏｄｙ　ｐａｒｔｓ　ｍｕｔａｎｔ．

Ｍｍｍｈ，　ｗｉｔｈ the recent change to Gavela, i wonder if you can still add parts even at 1 ?
Maybe Noa made it so that if a part cost 5 life, you actually need 5 life ( so at least 6 ) to spend ?

Can someone verify with a spare bell ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16754796
Wait, it's for the next version, derp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16754716
It's not. Level is not an effective measure of time spent nor character power: genes, pets, [disturbs your growth], and potions of descent make it nearly meaningless for the "powergamers". On the other hand, there's no reason to keep it low other than bragging rights on a himalayan jaw harp forum.
Real time or perhaps turns to kill him could be meaningful as Act 2 (and therefore statues of Kumiromi) form the basis of most end-game grinding strategies and you could then compare real times or turns between various Act 2 rush strategies to determine which is the "best", but having the best strategy is again probably pointless besides jaypee internet community bragging rights.

Imagine if the guy doing Kai had gotten to level 2700 and then stopped blessing his descent potions and started drinking them uncursed. He'd without a doubt have the strongest level 1 character ever. Does that make you or your accomplishments feel worthless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16721438
Was there never an Order_8.png because I can't find it in the archives and it's messing with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755177
I distinctly remember it in past threads. All of the cutscenes can be found in the download. Comes bundled with the adventure.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good spellcaster class for a beginner?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755505
Can't go wrong with Wizard.
Warmage if you want to dual wield ( you don't ).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755510
Redpill me on dual wielding, o smug one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755512
It removes 6% to that sweet 100% casting max casting chance hard cap, and warmage merely add 5%.
If you dual wield, all spell will be at 99% without or 94% with warmage class feat.
Settle only for 100% ! Autism compels !

Note that putting a claw into your second slot don't count as dual wielding, but you'll lose the twohand skill bonus.
And unless you are hoarding like mad rod of mana, you will not want to spam willy nilly your spells and converse somewhat your mana, bonking the weak chaff with your staff, and you need the two hands bonus because that's the proper way !
( or you could just use a bow/gun/throwing panties, but where's the fun in that ! )

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755660
That's interesting, thank you little girl.
Now that I think, I may as well start as Gunner and build my mage stuff from there. Elea gunner got the skills, at least in theory. I played years ago and remember spell books being fairly rare, does Yacatect boost drops enough to be a viable book source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755710
Harvest quests and killing dungeon bosses are a garanteed source of spellbooks, from lvl1 to lvlKai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16755744
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't played in ages, and just wished for a happy bed.

Did anything significant change regarding to sleep?

Can I transmutate the bed to a lightweight material without any downsides, or does adding (and using a low tier) material affect sleep/bed quality now?

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16757151
Quality and material only affect its value as furniture, so you can make it a mica happy bed and carry it everywhere.without penalties.

[Anonymous No.]

With a combination of Call Familiar and tag-teaming with a customized Ride Cleric sprite you can basically henshin. Throwing that out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16757480
Or you could just get a shift core.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16749668
You're supposed to save in a permanent location like a town so errors don't happen in the first place.

>>16754528
Wasn't bleeding stacking to some anon in last thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16757487
Welp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16757559
Bleed can stack but a simple heal spell removes the stacks. Either your character can cast the healing or a pet can do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16757579
I'm the anon >>16757559 mentioned, healing spells didn't seem to do much and the bleeding stopped on its own eventually.
Maybe they remove one or two stages of bleeding each but I was too busy wondering if it was a bug to think about that.

[Anonymous No.]

who needs farms

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758138
You need farm for herbs though.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to steal these, wiki says set the water on fire but casting fire wall just makes a splish noise. How do I get these?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758238
Have you tried digging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758238
You can't steal precious items.
Wiki is also full of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758238
I teleported onto one once but they're precious so not steal-able.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw I send the half-Meshera guy to fight the monsters in the laboratory alone in the vain hope he'll see his sister again so I can steal a toilet

[Anonymous No.]

Hey all.

I'm running a (currently) 4 handed mutant quad wielder.

I got a business card while dungeon running - my current class is the largely useless for me Pianist.

If i go to warrior, will the chance to proc an extra attack Stack with gear that already does this? (such as Twin edge).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758262
The wiki just says the town is decorated with statues of Lulwy. That statement does not appear to be incorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758345
Not stack per-se. It's just a flat chance rolled separately from absolutely everything else.

But yes, it will improve your mean attacks per round no matter what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758355
Dope, thats actually much better than stacking anyways. Do you happen to know if this chance is rolled per weapon or per "attack" (moving into an enemy or shadowstepping or whatever)

Can i proc extra strikes on each of my four hits theoretically?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758238
Houzanha !

[Anonymous No.]

so, what class/race should I start playing Elona with?

[Anonymous No.]

What is the point of the mining skill? Digging walls seems like a pretty niche skill at best and a completely useless one at worst (aside from the obvious utility of training CON risk-free, not that CON is hard to raise). Seems to me that mining would be better implemented as a CON-based special action, the skill could be re-implemented as something that actually affects gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758408
Mining has a huge impact on gameplay.
Being able to remove walls lets you set up chokepoints and winding deathlanes, or breach rooms such that only one occupant at a time can attack you.
Getting it high enough to use in combat is absolutely amazing, though a lot more situational.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758407
It really doesn't matter as you'll probably start over anyway. Any race/class can eventually do everything.
Yerles, Eulderna, Juere, ,and Elea are the most normal. The fairy equipment weight restriction could be very frustrating for a new player. Snail is a meme race. Golem speed could be very frustrating to a new player.
Classes don't matter once you're a couple hours into the game: pick whatever has skills to do whatever you want to spend your first few hours doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758424
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758408
The point I'm trying to make is: what's the difference between mining skill lvl 50, mining skill lvl 100, and mining skill lvl 2000? Because the answer is "almost nothing". What's the point of having a skill that doesn't really get better when you raise it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758262
>>16758276
fug D: I didn't know that applied to items on the ground

Kaiposter, do you think it would be a good use of my first bioshock reward to get a second statue of Lulwy to keep it raining and reduce crop failure? I can't keep it raining long enough with one to harvest everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758476
Just get another Kumiromi statue so you can have more replacement seeds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758442
Reduce time to dig so you can do it while surrounded by mobs, and high level is required for high level digging material spots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758486
Don't forget the kumiromi gem too.
Long term, it's them that enable you to have a lot of herb farms due to wither revival paired with the scissors of kumiromi remove all attrition rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758503
The difference between the kumiromi statues and lulwy statues or kumi gems is that you can save up the products of the kumi statues while you go do other stuff, while getting your regrowth through lulwy and kumi gems requires you to slavishly return to your farms in order to use them and get their timer going again. Basically, if you quit grinding herbs for a while and go grind dungeons instead, if you've stacked Kumiromi statues you can still grind "future herbs" by collecting seeds, while gemstones and lulwy statues do nothing for you unless you're actively grinding herbs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758569
Very true, but remember that the wither rate have an incompressible 5%. So while the statues helps establish and grow the farms faster, a given number of statues can only maintain a given number of farms, while the gems...
Well, it's the same i guess, they reset faster but you need to actively use them and they also hit some kind of soft limit on the number of farms.

Yeah, i suppose in the end it doesn't makes much difference, but personally i'd go for the gems because reviving withered plants is a magical feeling !

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758476
If you plant all your fruit and veggie seeds, you'll pretty quickly hit the point where you don't care about rain. Get the kumislut bishoujo figurines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758476
At gardening skill 31 rain stops mattering for herb seeds. If you're below gardening skill 31 you shouldn't be wasting your herb seeds at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Experimenting with talk files. Decide to force sleep sharing using squeeze. Do this a couple of times to increase relationship level with Akeno however remember that I'm not getting any spell potential by sleeping with Akeno. Wonder why this is. Recall that virgins become the best wizards. Especially after a certain point. Very subtle Elona but well played.

>>16758476
I went with Kumiromi statues first and got a bunch of them. Then I worked on Kumiromi gemstones and after I got a decent amount switched back to Kumiromi statues some more. Had to get some hero cheese and magic fruit to bounce back from game crashes recorded as savescumming in Inferno too. So that's all I've used my little sister awards on. After you get the scissors you can focus on gemstones but before that point you do need something to create your herb seeds and kickstart those farms so that's where the statues come in.

Wither will happen even under the best of circumstances so I'm not sure multiple copies of Lulwy statues will help much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758730
Isn't that kinda incest ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758730
>(Sex)
Wait, does that mean you can make your pet cum by hugging it and it isn't an euphemism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758736
I wouldn't think so. Akeno is my character's martial artist teacher. His sister is a a little girl turned witch named Mai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758750
Try squeezing Mai next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758750
Yeah that's why i said kinda.
She was here from his childhood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758742
The whole (Sex) thing was just me playing around with the talk file. Originally it says ((Various Things)) when you do sleep sharing but the intention was that you put in whatever you want in a pet talk file. You can also customize what they say when you actually select the entry you made. So that's what I have circled in red in the pic.

So in short, that last option in the sleep sharing can be anything you want it to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16758803
Ah I see. Well then yes sorta.

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>>16758717
Oh shit I have like 160 gardening, I thought rain always made a difference

>>16758730
Son of a bitch, multiple Kumiromi gems don't share a cooldown? How strong should I be to do the quest for his statue? Other than magic dart (61) and speed (49) my magic is shit, I really only use it to hit things with greater evasion.

>>16758742
You can pull her into bed and fuck her using the squeeze action. If she likes you already she'll like you more, obviously if she doesn't like you raping her will make her mad. Achieve 同時出し whenever possible. If you mess up and can't let her finish first, if you finish first she'll get mad.

Please don't squeeze the NPCs, you will probably crush them to death.

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>>16758904
oh right, the image

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>>16758904
The Kumiromi statue quest is not any harder than Zeome, you just have to target the summonknights and ignore the trash like a non-retard.

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>>16758827
>>16758904
I was just pointing out that sleep sharing is all about euphemisms for sex and then >>16758730 alluded to it directly.

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>>16758914
You are probably "over-leveled" for the quest, in addition to that you should be able to easily kill the NT chaos bosses and make good headway in Rehmido.
I can't imagine grinding for 500 hours without herbs and all-superb attribute potentials. Good on you I guess.

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>>16758904
I was like lv 30 with Kai and had lower attributes but maybe around the same skill level so the quest for the Kumiromi statue shouldn't be too hard. You have more HP going into than I did at least.

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>>16758933
Wonder if that's a gene character. I hear the clock doesn't reset for gene characters.

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>>16759112
It doesn't, and it probably is.
Also some people leave the game open even when they aren't playing, as it's dependent on player movement there's no reason not to other than to avoid letting the clock tick up. Probably 20 percent of the time on my most-played character is due to walking away from the game without closing it.

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>>16758933
I haven't really been focusing on main quest, I keep getting new got pets and focus on training them and keeping my shop stocked.

>>16759112
first time playing :D

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what's the (org) next to my attributes? my base stats? and on the left is with equip/god/potion bonuses?

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>>16759233
Yes.

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>>16759190
I did that for 200 hours on my first character, I had my character probably slightly more powerful than yours but I also had a bunch of useless untrained pets that I collected while I dawdled around NT gathering gods into my tier 1 house and playing in the snow in Noyel. Then I went and beat the NT main quest and did some stuff in ST and I was way overpowered for it. Now I can still do the same stuff in NT, messing with pets, collecting unique items, making friends with adventurers (gotta get that C96), etc, the difference is that I can do it way more effectively because I have herbs and AP speed. There's no reason to not complete NT at your current state.

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>I live in USA

>My occupation is Oracle Application Developer

>I am Female

Too young to go.

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I've found a bit of a bug in 1.66 elona+ cu.

Nothing major, but the gravity feat is named sexy dance in the choose feat menu.

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>>16759336
Shouldn't be a bug with E+CU exclusively, I can see in the original 1.66 version it is also named that way too. I think it just wasn't translated.

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>>16759336
>>16759379
Yeah that's been a bug for a while now.

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>>16759379
>>16759757
Ah, my mistake then. I guess that's what I get for not updating in such a long time.

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Progressing cozily. Got the god amulet from a crab minutes ago from an harvest quest, so next november i'll have that sweet sasumata for serious training. Got a shop deep in my inventory for a month now, kinda don't know who i should get as a shopkeeper.

I think i'll go for a black cat, because it'll make for cheaper town training down the line when i'll need her to lick my big long and thick artifacts.

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Not the usual question, but wanted to ask opinions here.

How easy would it be to create an elona tabletop game? And if one was made would anyone here be interested in it?

I mean, weapons and abilities already use dice rolls with modifiers for damage, they have primary attributes with more specialized skill levels, built in feats, plenty of playable races.

The skill system even provides ways to get exp without just mindlessly killing things.

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Does material even matter in terms of PV and DV once your armor/evasion skills is high?

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>>16760951
I considered doing this in the past, and someone in Japan has also considered it if you google search it. Both instances made no progress.

The biggest issue is that Elona, and most other roguelikes, do many calculations inside the code every time you take a single step. You'd pretty much have to remake the entire game system from scratch and just use the assets in some form I guess.

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>>16760998
Depends on what you mean by "high". If you're talking "compared to a maxed skill of 2000 supplemented by maxed out Holy Shield", then no not really.
If you mean "100-200" which is a lot saner, then yes material still very much matters.

Hey Kai, out of curiosity what's your character's armor skill at?

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>>16762021
Highest is Medium Armor at 569 which is the armor weight class I settled on for Kai after flying scrolls became more available through invested magic vendors.

Looking back on it the armor skills are incredibly hard to raise since you only gain skill exp after a certain amount of in game time has passed. The only other way to get exp is to have very low max HP and take a mortal hit. So early in the game armor skills can increase the fastest but becomes slower as you level up and gain HP. Even if there was a way to lower max HP the fact that I have to take a mortal strike and constantly be near death's door is unacceptable for me in Inferno mode considering I don't want any mistakes.

On a side note, I have thought about armor and its relationship to pierce. I suppose in the normal game where you do story dungeons and normal unawakened dungeons that the damage you do with a weapon with lots of pierce vs a weapon without a lot of pierce isn't really anything to write home about. However, against enemies that scale, I would imagine their armor skill is constantly going up making pierce that much more valuable. Lucky for me martial arts already comes with 50% pierce on it. Made sure my other pets have weapons with pierce on them as well.

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Is there anything I can do with this custom AI to make my executioner less adamant about just mashing death word over and over again on things that are immune or might as well be immune to it, or things where it'd just die if she shadow stepped?
Do I actually even need it on with her death master passive?

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>>16763399
well I can already see I fucked up and have it set to move away instead of towards, whoops.

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>>16761754
That is a good point. But even if it won't be that easy I might still try to throw a bare bones adaptation together for when my group wants to do a one shot and see how it goes from there.

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I took a break from Elona. Sorry about that.
Sprite pack updated for 1.66. Added those scroll image things during the character creation menu (and apparently the main menu) and fixed the UI a bit.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uq5ntc7bb6s5nr0/Younger+Sister+Pack.zip

There's already a lot of Younger Sister sprites, but I wish there were more.

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>>16763551
Sweet. Thanks for your work!

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>>16717417
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn
Updated pastebins.

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Is the shield tonfa worthwhile enough for a new spawn to make it worthwhile to just run around collecting statics and then go get it before I bother to do anything else? The wiki talks it up quite a bit.

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>>16764432
I wouldn't say it's good enough to make trips without another reason, but you can easily do some quests from city to city, grab all the static medals in each city, and then do a two-way cargo trip to Noyel for some cash and grab the Shield Tonfa on the way.

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>>16764432
Are you a HtH fighter?

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>>16764474
No, but I could just toss it in my shoot slot for those mad bonuses, right?

I mean, I guess I *could* be.

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>>16764480
Eh, I guess you could try that, if you fight in melee mostly.

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>>16764484
By hand to hand I thought you meant martial; yes, I fight monsters by running into them.

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>>16764493
I meant martial. If you fought with your hands then getting the tonfa early would be a no-brainer. But if you use weapons then it's just a "good" idea.

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クミロミの秘密の経験
Yay, it worked !
Feels good to not have wasted yet another pet wish.

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First time i got <Ragnarok> through the assassination event.
Speaking of <Ragnarok>, the comment on its page is mighty interesting :

>Take this to high dl dungeons to get alot of small medals. Wear vindale cloak. Clear a level. Summon monsters. This scales to your level and not dl. Monsters from ragnarok tend to range from level 40 to 80. Drops scale to dl. Monster spawns from ragnarok do not scale up. This spawns alot of dragons. They drop chests. These often have small medals. Odds increase with dl. Use a luck boost when opening chests to increase odds.
>Dungeons respawn slowly. I have done this in dl 150 and gotten a good supply of small medals. Not strong enough to go highest, but expect small medal spawn rate to go up.

It was written in 2014 though, have this been nerfed since ?
Also, it should be even more juicy if it works while worshipping Yacatect thanks to her enhanced drop rate.

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>>16765792
I haven't farmed ragnarok in a while, but nothing in the changelogs indicated it's been changed.
From personal experience, its a lot faster to just blitz low level dungeons if you only care about medals.

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>>16766676
Even high level dungeons can be easily blitzed, I just spam teleport till I'm near the stairs and keep moving.