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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.16697981 [DELETED] 

1st for Muramasa is a kusoge.

>> No.16698714
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Finished Nanaho's route in Nanatsu no Fushigi no Owaru Toki. I don't know if I really want to continue.

It's like a mystery of sorts, that's a mystery for the wrong reasons. The author(s) love to leave out information that are later on given when some things are explained. At the end that gets pretty retarded as everything feels like deus ex machina which later on gets explained as "this was all prepared beforehand!". You know, girl gets stabbed but conveniently prepared for that beforehand and had a can at the right place so she doesn't get too hurt from it. That style.

The route itself was also a bit disappointing. A lot of what happened before seems of no consequence and it existing or not doesn't matter. The final drama is also pretty far fetched and just.. my god. So deliberately written for misunderstanding scenes. So forced. Not like this.

The game has a mostly good cast and if it had been more normal mystery, it'd be a hit for sure. Heck, with the exception of the final story it was still kinda alright as you could at least guess things in some way, although most "evidence" is impossible to know as you lack knowledge for it. Really unfortunate.

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>>16698714
Played that one myself and none of the other routes were any better, worse in fact. Which sucks a little since it had a nice atmosphere and cast interactions but any time it got serious it got eye-rollingly bad.

At least the art was nice, I guess.

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>>16698845

Bummer. I'll probably continue the game and just skip if it ends up similar (or worse, as you say). I do agree that it's quite fine outside of the plot. And as long as the plot isn't trying too much I suppose.

But I guess that's unfortunately relatively normal with eroge. Makes the few games that can get serious and do that well stand out all the more.

>> No.16700384

Was reading Dear My Abyss all day. Pretty damn good.

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Finished Yukako route in 人気声優のつくりかた, quite a good route and heroine though ironically the seiyuu wasn't that good, specially in high pitches she would sound literally like a goat lol

The game was a good surprise as I started reading it because of the topic of seiyuus and when I started I realized it was a quite good vn with an actually fun to read common route and loveable characters, though it lacked some deep in the plot the characters make up for it and the climaxes were quite well done as I got excited too.

>> No.16700627

>>16700384
Really? Hadler-sama recently destroyed it in his review though.

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>> No.16700742

>>16700627
Don't know or care who that is but it may be a matter of expectations.
This is basically Saya no Uta lite (really lite). Almost no actual horror or edginess. If you go in expecting some epic thriller or a proper Lovecraftian story this clearly isn't it.
The best aspect of it is probably the language. It's quite pleasant to read and a bit poetic. I also like how introspective it is. At the end of the day it's a doujin game about a love story with quite a bit of fluff. I think one of the girl's route was cut but that's clearly not what the game ended up being about so it's really not a big deal.

>> No.16700762

>>16700627
>>16700742
His main complaint was the very abrupt ending.

http://egs.omaera.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=24891&uid=4D

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English is hard.

>> No.16702465

>>16700762

Is 4D hadler? Ultimately it's not really a big deal but I can't help but feel a little strange about westerners posting and voting on EGS instead of just sticking to VNDB since doing so skews data that would otherwise be representative of only the Japanese audience. Shame VNDB does not have a dedicated reviews section like EGS though.

>> No.16702475

>>16702465
>Is 4D hadler?
No. What a weird post you just made. It's not like even if people did, the small number of people who read in Japanese over here is so small it wouldn't affect anything. Not like seeing what nationality prefers what is all that interesting anyways, it's mostly the same.

>> No.16702570

Remember when Hadler-sama wasn't an e-celebrity and posted here as anon with us?

>> No.16702874

>>16702475

>No. What a weird post you just made.

In the post I replied to, the anon wrote
>His (hadler's) main complaint was the very abrupt ending
and then linked to a review. I think it is natural to draw conclusions from this.

>> No.16702900

>>16702874
The weird part refers to what came after that (caring who makes reviews on EGS), not the connection.
Anyways, that's the review he linked and said he 100% agrees with it which is probably worth reading if you're on the fence about the game.

>> No.16703033

>>16697957
Subahibi i just started, is Tsui no Sora any good?

>> No.16703063

>>16702900
Instead of reading that ranty and poorly written review you should just read this. It's much more on point.

>クトゥルフ、ホラー、純愛、サスペンス。
>正直に言えば、どれも「中途半端」の一言に尽きます。

>どれかひとつで良いので突き詰めて欲しかった。物語に引き込ませる素晴らしい文章力をお持ちなので尚更に思いました。
>風呂敷も無駄に広げた物の得に物語の鍵となるわけでも無く腐っている部分が多いです。
>得にEND6の最後駆け足かつあっさりとしすぎていて、それまでの展開から「感動したい」気持ちが大きかったので「え、これで終わり?」と思ってしまいました。
>人によっては良いのかもしれませんが、自分にはそういった部分が合いませんでした。
>しかし、昴視点、得に夢の物語は非常に面白く、ルゥとの純愛に関しても感情移入が出来る素晴らしい内容だと思います。

But I disagree about the ending. It could have been expanded but it concluded everything important in the story. Also some of Lovecraft's own stories also end rather abruptly so maybe it's a bit deliberate.

>> No.16703386

>>16703033
Just watch the OVA

>> No.16703397

>>16703386
I did and it was eye cancer

>> No.16705387

Finished Shugaten
If feel so stupid for not realizing the obvious kanji reading trickery that was going on, especially since I'm sure that specific joke has already been used hundreds of times.
山田 --> Santa

>> No.16705443

>>16703033
Play it after Subahibi.

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>> No.16705870

>>16700728
>>16705453
>>16705864
ok

>> No.16706261

Anyone know where to get "Folk Song"? Searching for it is pretty hard.

This guys review in it made me pretty curious http://egs.omaera.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=643&uid=amaginoboru

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>TFW I will never be part of a cool 正義の味方 mecrcenary unit full with 信義 and friendship and shit.
Why even live?

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>>16706261
>Searching for it is pretty hard.

Not really.

>> No.16706398

>>16706378
chinese meme game strong

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>>16706378

>> No.16706406

>>16706402
Did you type in the password?

Used the link with https? That helps sometimes.

>> No.16706428

>>16706406
Yes to both. Does it work for you?

>> No.16706431

>>16706428
I'll try in a bit, after I finish my current download.

>> No.16706498

>>16706428
>>16706431
Hmm, I got 403 too. Maybe try later? Usually uploads by that guy worked well for me.

>> No.16706918

Does anybody know if there's such a thing as a "best version" of Kamaitachi no Yoru? There's a gazillion ports and I don't know which one I should play.

>> No.16706942

>>16706918
PSP, has all 3 games in one

>> No.16706993

>>16706942
Maybe you mean Triple for PS2?

>> No.16707006

>>16706993
Oops, yeah. There is no PSP version.

>> No.16707136

what's a decent, fairly recent VN for a slow-reading beginner? charage/chuunige are both fine

>> No.16707149

>>16707136
That's not specific at all. Just pick something off egs.

>> No.16707154

>>16707136
Genki 2?

>> No.16707328

>>16707136
I can't really think of any easy chuunige as those I've read usually came with obscure kanji spam.
Leyline series is easy to read as far as I remember and something with a good mystery plot.
LxC2 and Fureraba are my favorite girl focused pure love VNs. Twinkle Crusaders is also pretty easy to read and has decent gameplay.

>> No.16707361

>>16697957
>charage/chuunige are both fine

But only those two genres?

>> No.16707411

>>16707136
Ask DJT.

>> No.16707491

>>16707361
There are other genres?

>> No.16707612

>>16707491
nukige, charage, nakige, moege, hinukige, moege

>> No.16707666

>>16707612

You forgot moege.

>> No.16707727

>>16706261
>>>/t/748921

Here's a torrent. Please post you impressions here when you read it, nobody ever does when I link them these old games

>> No.16707899

>>16707727
Patches for the game.
http://nawa.sakura.ne.jp/dl/arkham/support_rewnoss.html

>> No.16707976

>>16707727
>>16707899
Cool thanks. The patch URL doesn't work by the way. Do you know what it fixes?

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>>16707976
名和桜 can be as bad about IP blocking as EGS. I guess you're not chosen.

But no worries, turns out the torrent also includes the patches.

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>>16706428
>>16706498
It's working right now, guys

>> No.16708315

>>16708021
>31 KB/s
Use the torrent anon linked, it's pretty fast.

>> No.16709145

>>16707612
Why does 俺と彼女の恋愛日常 look so ugly compared to 桜ひとひら恋もよう?
the former looks like the cast is all side characters or something.
Also the blonde girls looks bad in both.
https://twitter.com/parasol_soft/status/836019100857982976

>> No.16709156

>>16709145
actually i take it back the two girls on the left are weird but the one on the right is okay the blondes are kinda unsettling though, they seem to be lolis but look weird.

>> No.16709182

>>16709145

That feeling when not even the dev gets the name of their game right. Ouch.

>> No.16709317

>>16707491
Yes, though you wouldn't guess it if you just went based on discussion in this thread.

>> No.16709500

Help /jp/, I'm playing 蒼の彼方のフォーリズム and after about 15 days of working fine my crack suddenly stopped working, I just get the cd insert prompt. I never seen that before. I blocked all potential in/outbound connections from exe in my firewall just in case, but no change. Anyone got any ideas?

>> No.16709709

>>16709500
Even a clean reinstall dont work... I m stumped

>> No.16709765

>>16709500
Do you have windows updates active?

>> No.16709778

>>16709765
No, I'm not that dumb. I've even checked for any sign of change in the folders, nothing. Checking windows registry yielded no results either.

>> No.16709795

>>16709500
I've managed to get it to work again but only with the image mounted on a virtual drive, which wasnt needed beforehand. Truly a mystery.

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Hey guys here's a fun game: guess the eroge from the image representing the heroines' hair colors!

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>>16709833
I'll do one that can actually be guessed (probably)

>> No.16709846

>>16709840
Is that 2014's seminal classic "Oi Mate, 'Ow Come Yew's Got Such A Right Stiffie Fer Black 'Air, Innit?"

>> No.16709853

>>16709840
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=13021
?

>> No.16709861

>>16709846
>>16709853
You're both right, I was thinking mainly of Oi Mate but remembered Onimari too. Well, I think Onimari anyway, I forgot the exact title.

I was worried for Oi Mate people would be stuck on it actually being purple.

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>>16709833

>> No.16709872

>>16709861
Was there ever some official reason why black hair gets turned into varying shades of blue-purple? Lighting? Black ink too expensive?

>> No.16709879

>>16709872
Black looks bad on many monitors. Because it's not a color to show, it's a lack of color, yeah? That's what I heard, anyway.

>> No.16709898

>>16709879
I guess that was for older monitors? And now we're in too deep to go back on a long-standing tradition, or something?

>> No.16709932

>>16709866

Harukuru?

>> No.16709936

>>16709833
Naruto the vn

>> No.16709949

>>16709932
Nope. Although maybe it applies there too, the combination seems fairly common.

>> No.16709956

>>16709833
noratoto?

>> No.16710012

>>16709956

That was one I thought people might guess but it was not what I had in mind.

>> No.16710076

>>16709833
Fuck that's a really common set if that's supposed to be a light brown rather than Orange.
Tenshin Ranma?
Primal Hearts 2?

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>>16709833

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>>16709833
This is a scene from an eroge guess it

>> No.16710773

>>16710758
its pretty easy

>> No.16710880

>>16710758
>>16710773
I might as well put the answer
its hanachirasu its the final battle

>> No.16710985

My favorite thing about doujin games is that they're usually pretty short since they don't have to meet length quotas that 8k Yen games have to.

>> No.16711012

>>16710985
That's why I like reading games from new companies as they're also usually shorter and things move along faster.

>> No.16711504

>>16710985
What are the best or must read doujin games anyways?

Played through Mushi no Me, SeaBed and Chuusotsu recently and the first two were pretty great while the last one was also alright despite leaving the bigger plot hanging. Heard that JQV is supposedly good, but also that it's somehow homage to or takes influence from Cross Channel and Saihate no IMA so I'm wondering if it would end up feeling like a watered down / "been there done that" version of those two.

>> No.16711551

>>16705387
how hard does the ero go? the gallery on the website has all these cgs of girls playing cutely in the snow and then one where chocolat is chained up in the basement pissing in a bucket which is...unexpected

>> No.16711563

>>16711504
If you've read (and liked) those two then JQV is a must read. It wouldn't really get much praise if it was "those but bad" now would it? Hiruou is one of the most talented writers in the scene, both doujin and commercial-wise.

As for other doujin games, 闇を奔る刃の煌き is cool. Humanity seems to be highly rated on EGS and someone here uploaded it last thread.

>> No.16711600

>>16711504
>>16711563
So when will some of you pals upload the new JQV Lost Route?

>> No.16712067

>>16711504
I'm no doujin game expert but Lost Colors I think is a "must read".
Horobi is worth reading for many but the writing is definitely... dramatic... and repetitive enough that many won't enjoy it.
Humanity is pretty funny, but I can't play the full game to find out if it's worthwhile.

>> No.16712082

>>16712067
Why don't you just use a virtual machine Quof? It's not hard to set up or anything.

>> No.16712106

>>16712082
Lethargy more than anything

>> No.16712251

>>16711551
Not hard at all. In that scene, she put on the collar just for fun and couldn't unlock it (and didn't want to break it because it's expensive) so she had to stay like that until the next morning.
It's also the only scene like that.
That one creepy guy in Koori's route isn't bad either, even if the picture looks like that out of context.

>> No.16712723

Does anyone have the 2000 version of https://vndb.org/v1973 and is willing to upload it?

>> No.16712753

>>16712723
pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=401649&uk=3876080256 密码:2057

>> No.16712774

>>16712753
Yeah, I know, but Jdownloader gives me 403 and my Baidu account asks me for a Chinese phone number. So I can't get that.

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>> No.16712935 [DELETED] 

Idk if it really counts as a visual novel because there is some actual gameplay to it, but does anybody know of anyone who is currently translating Danganronpa v3 in it's entirety?

I know a guy on YouTube translated the whole first chapter but he said he wouldn't translate any further and it kind of bummed me out.

>> No.16712942

>>16712935
This is not a thread about translations.

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>>16712898

>> No.16713405

What's better 夏ノ雨 or この大空に、翼をひろげて ?

>> No.16713419

>>16713405
konosora

>> No.16713484

Speaking of Pulltop, seems like for their 15th anniversary you can get almost all their games from the main-brand in one package for 15000yen on DMM. (15games, the first 2 or so are missing I think) Only for a month though. For eroge pretty damn cheap if you don't have many of those games already. Especially considering, that it even includes their most recent works, not just old stuff or something.

>> No.16713529

Actual game being complete shit aside, damn Senren Bankas OP is nice.

>> No.16713950

what should i read next i dunno

>> No.16714178

>>16713950

In general if people here struggle to start new things: Install things in small batches and set things up (patches, add-ons, whatever may exist), and when it's time to choose, just double-click on something. Not needing to install it first and so on and so forth makes it far easier to just start a game, doubly so as you'll have only a small amount to choose from, and not your whole (probably) way bigger backlog.

>> No.16714227

>>16714178
i dunno what to read cuz if i read something good right now there will be no point because if i wait later when i improve my japanese from reading it'll be better then if i were to read it now, but i still want to read good stuff, so for now ive been settling for decently good stuff but not full out kamiges like baldr force, and i read 4 things so far but im pretty stumped on what to read next and its a big decision since it takes me like 1-2 months to read a game

>> No.16714232

>>16714227
That's a retarded mindset and you're overthinking it. Pick whatever you're most excited about at the moment.

>> No.16714239

Late to the party but finally finished Seabed. That was fantastic, although some parts felt a little too bloated. Everything from chapter 6 on was particularly amazing.

Just to check with others that have finished the game, is it normal to have the last few CGs in the gallery never have shown up in the narrative? I swear that I don't recognize some. I've read all of the tips of course.
Again to double check to see if I actually read everything, it feels like there should be an extra bubble between the gallery and the config. Should there have been some other option show up at the end?

>> No.16714240

>>16714232
thats the problem, if i read something like island now, i could just wait 6 months and id enjoy it so much more, so why would i read it now

>> No.16714256

>>16714240
i was in that position not too long ago, just pick something that looks good to you instead of one of the 'classics' or whatever. be a creature of impulses. if you don't wanna 'waste' one of the big name ones, poke around a bit until you find something not famous but that looks neat.

the catch is you gotta be okay to drop it if it turns out to suck. have a high turnover rate until you're sure you want to settle in for the long haul.

>> No.16714262

>>16714256
just tell me something good but not too good pls

>> No.16714266

>>16714262
ドラクリウス

>> No.16714278

>>16714262
太陽のプロミア if you want some fantasy shenanigans.

>> No.16714300

>>16714278
Damn the h CGs are hot.

>> No.16714348

>>16707136
anything from Alcot Honeycomb or Yuzu.

>> No.16714368

>>16714262
https://vndb.org/v7302

>> No.16714380

>>16714368
I'd say that's firmly in the "too good" category, whatever that means. Better than ISLAND at least.

>> No.16714384

>>16714368
srry my jlpt level is not high enough to cry yet

>> No.16714387

>>16714227
read something easy like axanael or sumaga

>> No.16714818

Been reading アマカノss recently and just got into 一ノ瀬's route. The game is a bit on the boring side but she makes up for it.

>> No.16714876

>>16714818
That's moege/most sol romance games in a nutshell for you. Cute girls, but boring.

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>> No.16715522

>>16714891
Anon do you have the lost route エデンの証明 one? I would be grateful if you can upload it.

>> No.16715530

>>16714239
Yeah, the last ones in the gallery are all extras / unusused CGs as far as I'm aware.

>> No.16715681

>>16713375
I love that hikikomori midget

>> No.16715713

>>16714368
my fav eroge

>> No.16715821

What are your thoughts on 幼マ〇コ?

Is it weird or too young?

>> No.16715908

>>16715821
Is it really 幼な is the characters are stated as 18+?

>> No.16715913

>>16715821

You really asking if it's weird to be into 6 year old mangos?

.... yes. Yes. Indeed it is weird.

>> No.16715923

>>16715821
I looked this up on VNDB hoping it was the name of an actual eroge. Fuck you for getting my hopes up.

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what are these hats called or this job called i see them often but don't know the tag, like delivery girls or something

>> No.16716177

>>16716156
It's called a moeblob.

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Any really cute games with rape?

>> No.16716255

>>16716253
Princess Sacrifice

>> No.16716300

>>16716255
cheers

>> No.16716572

Why don't eroge have more scenes for the sex scenes, i see hentai manga do it alot, meanwhile eroge might have like 2 images and a cumshot version of the second image.

i mean I'm kinda pissed after reading this korean hentai and well theres tons of different sex images for one sex scene I first thought maybe its just coloring in but they coloured this in fine. It really shouldn't be too hard.

http://hentai2read.com/hari_dormitory/3/2/

On a side note i realised there was something called korean hentai and the sex is decent.

>> No.16716581

>>16716572
i mean the example has about 12 images for one blowjob and the sex hasn't started and they do this for multiple sex scenes.

>> No.16716592

>>16716572
Because eroge isn't manga, pretty simple. Learn the difference of the mediums.

>> No.16716672

>>16716592
School days does this but as for other eroge, not as much.

Why can't they add more images for the sex? Is it budget?

All I'm doing is looking at a single image or two and listening to moans and talking.

Eroge could easily surpass manga if it had the same or even slighly less of amount of sex images that manga has, due to it having colour and sound.

I guess i just wanted more out if this medium.

>> No.16716711

>>16716672

Full-price eroge have ~80 images, part of that is a bunch of SD art, usually cut-ins and MUCH less detailed. (though can still be awesome. I love the stuff used in Natsukuru for example)

So if you'd have 10 CG per scene, you can calculate how many scenes you'd have for a girl. 1.
If you'd want to do this like manga, you'd need to go away from the CG idea. Manga doesn't put as much effort into a single picture. Backgrounds are barely to not at all used, and for the most part you only have small cuts of the girl or whatever shown. Also usually black and white, if not it gets more expensive rather fast. (in part because of printing, in part because good colors aren't even that easy and increase the workload by A LOT) Basically, eroge would need to be like manga, and yet not at the same time, as you don't want the scenes to be as short.. usually.

That said, once 3d is big enough and looks good enough, I'd assume eroge will adapt this kind of thing, as it'll be much cheaper to show the girl from a slightly different angle in the same "position" than it is right now. But for now that's not going to happen. Quality color art takes quite a bit of time. So even if you had the money, requesting 500 cg from a single artist.. well yeah. There's a reason why games with a lot of art usually have more than one artist. (in fact it happens a whole lot in general, with backgrounds, cg and SD all done by different people)

>> No.16716860

>>16716711
okay but i mean it doesn't have to be as detailed you could do cut ins of the sex.

To smaller things like the dick slowy going in, lip biting or kisses. Plus I've seen some more lazy eroge already have the sex image displayed but just zoom in to the girl's face before it begins and when the sex starts they just zoom out and show the penis is already in. (The sex was a single image)

They could do something like danganronpa's breakdown where they have smaller images to show stuff happening, so they don't have to go into much detail.
https://youtu.be/kRUjGAMupDw?t=1h54m10s
(ignore the dub i just wanted an example)
These don't have to be the actual sex and can just show over the actual sex image, but its to show smaller actions like turning, kisses, semen build up and so on, like i mentioned previously.

There are a ton of ways to do so.

Still at first i assuned it was from laziness like sakura no uta having rina's 2 sex scenes just an image flip of another or how her cowgirl sex is just her going and down a few centimetres, with nothing like shoulders or anything move position.

Still yeah 3d would be easier to do.

>> No.16717065
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For your reading enjoyment, Daitoshokan short story from Comiket 89.

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>>16717065

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>>16717069

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>>16717085

>> No.16717103

>>16717065
Can you upload a zip file?

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>>16717101
>>16717103
This page is the last one.

>> No.16717158

>>16717133
Cool. Thanks man.

>> No.16717508

>>16716253
That's the whole shtick of the company Kai, look into their games.

>> No.16717552
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Getting further through Natsukuru, having just finished the titty loli arc.

It's so polarizing for me. Sometimes I just read and before I realize half an hour or more has passed.. and sometimes I get annoyed by the same unfunny joke getting repeated 20 times, the same reasoning getting repeated with slightly different words, the "battles" being shit, ero-scene placement being some of the worst I've seen in a while and whatnot.
Makes me quite interested in Akikuru though, with what I've heard about it. I just hope I like the characters more then.

>> No.16717568

>>16717552
>unfunny joke
The problem is your sense of humour. All of the jokes were funny.

>> No.16717575

>>16716572
Yanzuma Koharu is probably the closest an eroge comes to meeting manga halfway in terms of amount of art, use of frames and cut-ins, etc. Hope you're into NTR. Other games from the doujin group might do something similar (never played any), but you're still getting NTR.

>> No.16717827

>>16717552
For me it has a better setting and more interesting scifi elements than Harukuru but the narrative is just so fragmented and some of the characters feel so undeveloped it ended up being a significantly worse game.

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Anyone here played the recent 神様のゲーム? The reception to it seems pretty positive, it mainly just being 面白い as fuck from beginning to end which is always nice to hear about eroge.

>> No.16717897

>>16716711
Hell, it's fairly common for there to be someone who just does all the coloring too.

>> No.16717964

>>16717508
Oh my those look adorable.

>> No.16718197

>>16717568

There's always someone out there who finds a joke funny, even repeatedly. But that's not really helping me. I know the game is generally received about as well as the other kuru games on average, but to me it's quite a bit below Harukuru.

>>16717827

So far I like Harukuru more as well, but for other reasons. Maybe I'll write about it at some point, but I don't really want to before I haven't actually finished Natsukuru. It'd be kinda silly to do this without that. It's a kuru game after all.

>> No.16718464

>>16717873
I only read half the trial and stopped because I didn't want to spoil myself, and yes the game is extremely interesting. The writing has alot of details in it and the mind games start from the first hour, so you will be pulled in from the start to finish. Also the H scenes are extremely good. I loved this much more than Euphoria, Iam actually surprised this didn't get much attention here.

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>> No.16718858

>>16717873
>>16718464
sounds interesting, will give it a shot!

>> No.16719027

>>16718464
I was also interested in it, I'll give it a go. Thank you.

>> No.16719047

>>16718464
Sounds interesting, thanks!

>> No.16719068

so this is a thing?
I thought scaji made it up yet there's people going into it
http://shoyo3.hatenablog.com/entry/2015/05/03/210000

>> No.16719537

Does Hello Lady have forced (or highly-recommended) route order? And also, are all routes necessary for full story comprehension? I ask because I like Sorako so I was going to save her for last but Saku is the "main girl" so if her route ties up all the ends in the story and whatnot I might do her last.

>> No.16719709

So, how's the YU-NO remake?

>> No.16719793

>>16719709
Y7,560 on psn jp, Y8,200 on amazon jp... jeez

>> No.16719798

>>16719537
Egs is usually a pretty reliable source about recommended order.

>> No.16719969

>>16719537
Red hair then Sorako, Eru and Saku are locked in that order.

>> No.16719995

>>16715821
>幼マンコを激しく犯さないまま生きて続くの感じ。。。

>> No.16720039

>>16719969

Ah, thought it might be locked up - I saw on the seiya-saiga 攻略 that there was a choice at a point for the Eru route that I didn't have, which I thought probably meant it would be unlocked later later. Thanks for the info though, good to know, and that also let me know I should read the 攻略 from left to right then top to bottom rather than vice versa.

>> No.16720047

>アナルが滅茶苦茶可愛い妹に突き刺されるの体験が無いの感じ。。。

>> No.16720111

>>16714818
>>16714876
Amakano for me is one of those games that stays bland the whole way through. Sure it has plenty of イチャイチャ and 甘々 but lacks any fun or memorable scenes or interaction. There are plenty of moege out there that does what it does but better.

>> No.16720120

>>16719709
Watched a stream yesterday. Still can't believe they modernized the art but still kept the archaic "Look/Investigate, Move, Talk" system for the prologue. Hope someone shares the high res soundtrack, at least.

>> No.16720198

>>16719995
>続くの感じ
>>16720047
>無いの感じ
>突き刺されるの体験

Why repeat the same mistake?

>>16719995
>生きて続く
生き続ける or 生きて行く.

I mean, fair enough, this is a thread abour reading, not active production of Japanese, but still.

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Do you like early Bekkankou art?

>> No.16720279

>>16720198
I don't speak jap lol
I just read

>> No.16720288

>>16720279
Yeah, so much was obvious.

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I guess this means we will not see Sengoku Koihime series again, huh. I guess they'll release something a moege between all those Shin koihime remakes to get some more money.

>> No.16721207

>>16717065
>>16717069
>>16717085
>>16717101
>>16717133
Takigawa Aoi maji moe

>> No.16721447

>>16721207
Yeah, Takigawa-san is a real cutie. It's easy to hate her after she attacks Toshobu, but other scenes redeem her.

But I felt her story in Daito fandisc was done too hastily. I'd prefer something with slower story development or even explorative of her love for Maho vs. new love for Kakei. Or a threesome ending.

>> No.16721490

>>16721447

Or just not twist her character in weird ways. (Which includes both her "love" and the way they forced the villain-role in a stupid way on her)

Well, not the first character that was good, and could've stayed good, but was fucked up because a villain was needed and then a fandisc was needed. To be fair though, most of the true route was fucked up. I'm still pretty disappointed about how shafted Kodachi was.

>> No.16721551

>>16721490
>Kodachi

How would you prefer her route was handled? Both her and Kakei becoming shepherds?

>> No.16721656

>>16721551

For one thing, her not doing a 180° switch without a reason. She screams, is angry and whatnot and then a minute later is like "alright, whatever, I'll be your girlfriend, tehe".
Gets even more sad when you think about the other routes and realize how a very "similar" issue was in Kana's route and that was actually handled way better. Basically it was way too rushed and nonsensical, like a lot in the true route in general.

There were also other silly things, like them just randomly adding character traits they haven't covered yet to her, for no reason and them never actually mattering. So she's suddenly the childhoodfriend and imouto of sorts, because why not, right? That was still missing! Who cares about plot.


That said, I think an option like what you said would be a good idea as well. Because that plot-line felt a bit.. unfinished as well.

>> No.16721715

>>16721656
>So she's suddenly the childhoodfriend and imouto of sorts, because why not, right?

That was pretty retarded, yeah.

>> No.16722733

>物理特典って処分に困るんだよな。
>初回特典Hシーンとかにしてほしい。
WTF 2ch is crazy, that would suck

>> No.16722875

Thoughts on ソレヨリノ前奏詩? Never tried a minori game but it seems like it has good reviews on egs.

>> No.16722905

>>16722875
That's their second best title after ef. Definitely worth giving a shot if it looks interesting to you.

>> No.16723023

>>16720203
I liked Eustia best. The shading in Daitosho looked weird to me.

>> No.16723155

Btw I dont know if anyone already mentioned it but apparently Lass is offically dead.

>> No.16723166

>>16723155
whats do you mean?

>> No.16723169

>>16723155
All their games are shit and Liber7 managed to be even worse than usual, so not really a surprise.

>> No.16723195

>>16723166
Just saw at a couple of different twitters, seems like offically they've went bankrupt.

>> No.16723319

>>16723155
I was going to say I won't miss them, but honestly it's sad and a bit concerning when any eroge company closes shop.

>> No.16723486

>>16723155
i still haven't finished 迷えるふたりと世界
11eyes looked cool too I wanted to try it

>>16723169
>>16723319
i thought on the recommendation list there was 3days and 11eyes. They were good to earn a spot.

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Are there any eroge that talks about HIV?
Or things like it?
I've yet to find any.
Also i found out today that Hiv doesn't transfer always transfer from a single sex session

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>>16723638
>throwing semen

Alright.

>> No.16723845

>>16723829
How else are you going to dispose of it aside from throwing it out the window?

>> No.16724080

>>16723845
Swallow?

>> No.16724506

>>16723845
>not swallowing

>> No.16724714

>>16724080
>>16724506
Swallowing your own semen seems pretty gay.
What do you think I am, some sort of turbohomo?

>> No.16724969

>>16722733
>2ch is 1 person

>> No.16725021

>>16724969
I'm not going to say "user id X on thread Y is crazy" dude, saying "2ch is crazy" was just briefly expressing 1) my opinion on the quote and 2) where it's from

>> No.16725212

>>16722875
Their only good title after Supipara so far.

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>> No.16725776

>>16725257
You sure have been reading this for a long time.

>> No.16726524

Who wrote what route in Miagete Goran? I see there's two writers

>> No.16726811

>>16705443
is tsui no sora different from subahibi? I heard subahibi first 3 chapters=tsui no sora or something like that
what should I read after subahibi and sakuuta?

>> No.16726814

>>16726811
Nijuuei

>> No.16726846

>>16726811
>is tsui no sora different from subahibi? I heard subahibi first 3 chapters=tsui no sora or something like that
That's a simplification. Some scenes are same, but plenty is different. And characters are different.

>what should I read after subahibi and sakuuta?
Miyazawa Kenji and books about him.

Or indeed Nijuuei, it's good. Use _inmm.dll to get looping sound.

>> No.16726870

I played pretty much every game listed as denpa in vndb, favorite being kusarihime, Kurai Nichiyoubi and sayooshi.
Is the genre dead? It's so hard to find other games like them. help pls

>> No.16726881

>>16726870
Well you said "pretty much", so go play the others in the tag?

>> No.16726883

>>16726524
Saya and Hikari: Asta
Korona and Orihime: the other guy

>> No.16726887

>>16726881
thats the thing, there's like only 20 games there. 6 are not even japanese. I read the rest lol
I wish lyrical pop world's end would be released..

>> No.16726928

>>16726887
If you really did then I think you're out of luck. You could just play games with similar dark / crazy vibes. 好き好き大好き! (13cm) has a mad MC.

>> No.16726961

>>16726883
Oh, I was considering only doing Hikari but I guess I have to do Saya now as well

>> No.16726981

>>16726870
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm289100

>> No.16727021

>>16726870
There's so little denpa eroge I'm surprised people call it a genre

>> No.16727082

>>16726870
Maybe
https://vndb.org/v11268

>> No.16727103

>>16725776
I imagine stopping every five lines to take a screenshot and post it on /jp/ slows down the process considerably.

>> No.16727150

I'm still a bit confused so they get the main family to have a child with the mum and father having pure blood. Then the husband gets a mistress to have a child who has half the pure blood.
Then the half blood child has to a child to pure blood child as the concubine/mancubine.

Isn't that still incest?
They said they get away without breaking the law.

Also what happens to the quarter blood child do they married to another quarter blood child or get a mistress? And the cycle continues?

Can't they run away when older without being forced to have a kid?

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>>16727150
forgot image

>> No.16727159

>>16727150
*Then the half blood child has a child to pure blood child acting as the concubine/mancubine.

>> No.16727161

>>16727150
You can't run away from super generic powerful japanese family.

>> No.16727220

>>16727161
Can't they tell anybody about the technical forced rape and incest? How about when they do leave when they are older like Kei's mum

I mean if they were that powerful they could fuck their brothers and sisters all day and have pure blood non-stop, without worrying about the law.
Though I mean genetic defects don't really happen after a single generation from my understanding.
They could do this without worrying about the law but apparently they do, enough to warrant a system like this. They could swap back and forth now and again if they were worried about birth defects.

Also from this system it seems the concubine/mancubine holds more weight than the wife as the wife would pretty much only taint the pure blood. why get married?

>> No.16727251

>>16725776
Isn't that Saihate no Ima? It's really long.
Not to mention reading time is measured in hours, not days, so to speak, so you don't know how long he's been reading.

>> No.16727260

>>16727251
>It's really long
It's under 2MB.

>> No.16727340

>>16727260
I can tell you've never read it.

>> No.16727363

>>16727340
Coming from someone who begins his sentence with "Isn't that Saihate no Ima?" isn't very convincing. Very hard to recognize that extremely distinct textbox and CG even though you've read it, eh champ?

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Do these ever decrease at some point?

>> No.16727416

>>16727363
That wasn't me, so... be careful on anonymous forums, eh?

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16727497

Done with Natsukuru. Wau best guy.

This.. had a lot of problems. But I still had some fun with it. Much less than with Harukuru, but hey. Can't like everything.

>> No.16727502

Sorry to ask, does anyone have that 2ch yearly top 10 chart?

>> No.16727503

>>16727497
I forgot all about that fucking thing. christ.

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>>16727502

>> No.16727565

>>16727548
2016 when?

>> No.16727570

>>16727565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wilxrpc8dq8

>> No.16727587

>>16727570
Island is a kamige!

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>>16727548
>僕はキミだけを見つめる
Has anyone played this? 10 hour short linear story with an alpha protag sounds interesting.

>> No.16727677

>>16727629
I've been meaning to for sometime now,it came out with Koko Kara Natsu and Koisuru Kimochi no Kasanekata

>> No.16727692

>>16727548
>93, 40
what a fucking powergap for sakura no uta

>> No.16727707

>>16727570
>Amatutumi that high
I thought it was shit

>> No.16727713

>>16727707
Based on? It got nothing but praise here for the most part.

>> No.16727722

>>16727713
>>16727713
Really?
Maybe I'm confusing it with their other Purple's other work; Chronoclock

>> No.16727734

>>16727722
You probably are, Chronoclock was shit on to hell

>> No.16727739

>>16727722
I'm pretty sure you are.

>> No.16727745

>>16727734
Mostly because of the h content being separate from the main game though, not for the actual game being bad. In reaction Amatsutsumi starts with an h scene in the first 10 minutes funnily enough.

>> No.16727754

>>16727745
As far as I know, the h-content being separate led to the game not having romance routes, that is, their routes end on the confession/kiss etc. Which really fucking sucks for a moe game.

>> No.16727788

>>16727754
For very thirsty otaku it does, yes. Most romance stories do perfectly well without showing explicit sex, and shoving it into a story where it doesn't fit makes it simply worse. But well, their paying customers don't care for quality and just want to fap so it was a mistake.

>> No.16727804

>>16727754

Dunno. Was Daito that much better because it crammed "romance" and the mandatory h-content at the end of the routes? Into like half an hour.

I just think Chrono Clock was simply not too good. That's all there is to it. It happens. The ero being in the extra menu doesn't make a good game bad. Nor is having little romance in a moege a recipe for disaster.

>> No.16727831

>>16727804
>The ero being in the extra menu doesn't make a good game bad.
No but what it does is that no one buys it and people boycott your company.

>> No.16727912

>>16727831

For that we'd need an actually good game that does this first.
Sure, if you create a meh moege where the biggest "selling point" is art and ero, and that is just part of the extra-menu and not much of it is there either.. you goofed up. Which is most likely exactly what happened with Chrono Clock.

I know people say, trains was alright because it unlocked content during the game, but is that really such a massive difference when routes aren't that long anyway? (in CC)
And then Leyline with its rather small amount of ero. I supposed technically some of it is kinda part of the main-game, but not really part of the main-story.
Heck, wasn't Magical Charming exactly like that as well? The main-game having absolutely 0 ero. It's all part of little after-stories, though they also have some slice of life and whatnot so it's not really comparable with just flat-out ero-scenes from an extra-menu. But well, I don't know how CC did that, could be similar enough.

>> No.16728012

>>16727707
Nihon shiki doesn't make you any cooler

>> No.16728014

>>16727912
>Sure, if you create a meh moege where the biggest "selling point" is art and ero
Uh, historically ALL non-console VNs require ero to sell, not just moege. Hell your own Leyline example is perfect, it literally makes the game worse by having it included, but they have to add it regardless. Same for Senshinkan, Eustia (side routes AND omake), Baldr... etc. It's hardly a new discovery.

>> No.16728022

>>16728014
Sengoku Koihime sold like 800 points without any ero in it tho, then X version sold even more.

Well apparently those numbers are not enough to make a FD for the makers though, such a shame.

>> No.16728028

>>16728014
>Baldr
The sex scenes are fantastic in Sky, shut up.

>> No.16728050
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Oof. The new character designs for yu-no were a real blunder.

>> No.16728059

>>16727912
Don't know how Chrono Clock compares, but I wouldn't really call Magical Charming's things after stories or the "main game having 0 ero", even if the credits roll after the confession scene in every route and the continuation is accessed separately from the main menu. They're the actual main dating part with both SoL stuff and H-scenes like you mentioned, so I'd say it's better to call them the other half of the heroine routes rather than just extra. Especially since you need to clear all of them anyways in order to access the true route.

But like you said Leyline had one straight plot with side heroine routes being short half-assed extras, Eustia supposedly does a similar thing, yet both were liked regardless of that so it might just be about Chrono Clock being shit even when disregarding the H-scenes as extras or just wrongly marketed.

>>16728014
I don't really think those are good examples of ero actively making the games somehow worse. Some cases do feel like the game wouldn't really suffer that much if you took certain H-scenes out, but in your examples I didn't really see them conflicting with the story or character relationships either. Plus, in both Leyline and Eustia's case you can just skip the side heroines altogether. When I think of ero "ruining" games I think of something like Furuiro Meikyuu Rondo that's pretty much one straight road instead of separate routes with one central heroine constantly in the focus, yet the protagonist fucks many other girls with the flimsiest of reasons.

>> No.16728064

>>16728050
So cool.

>> No.16728067

>>16728028
Rain's PoV one is unique at least.

>> No.16728083

>>16728050
Shading is an art lost to time, it seems.
On the other hand being the spoiled relative newcomer on the scene that I am, early 2000s VN art on average just looks like complete ass compared to average 2010s art.

>> No.16728115

>>16727548
Eroge has been shit this decade.

>> No.16728125

>>16727788
Hard to think of a romance story where sex "wouldn't fit." People in love have sex.

>> No.16728129

>>16728125
It could be a romance between two extremely pretentious people who are into some kind of purely platonic romance, just because.

>> No.16728130

>>16727548
thank you

>> No.16728162

>>16728129
there's not enough courtly love in eroge, clearly.
a true knight gets by on chaste thoughts of his lady's cheekbones and a glance in his direction every month or so.

>> No.16728175

>>16728059
It's not really about ruining them, because if they were ruined I wouldn't be playing them myself. As you said, you can easily circumvent it by skipping in some cases. But "skip" can't be an argument for it being good. In all of those cases they're objectively unnecessary additions and don't contribute anything to further the narrative in a meaningful way (that fade to black can't do). Skipping ahead 20 pages in some books might not be a problem, but you can't help asking yourself why they weren't simply cut. Or worse, what if you don't know you can skip it (e.g. Eustia is released tomorrow and no one knows the side routes suck but some poor souls stumble into them and think the game is ass as a result, only to latter learn you're supposed to skip it). When everything needs porn shoved in no matter how focal it is to the story to sell it clearly shows that is why people buy it, even in "plot" games. But well, that's a problem with the industry that can't be fixed (except by creators jumping ship over to consoles where people don't care).
>>16728125
If all the romance you have experienced is eroge that isn't hard to imagine.
>People in love have sex.
People also shit, eat, scratch their balls. But those aren't included every single time either.

>> No.16728209

>>16728162

Would be a nice VN. Also these scenes will be unlocked in the "scenes" extra menu, like normally the h-content would be. I'm sure it'd be popular.

>> No.16728210

>>16728175
>eating
>not included in eroge every single time
I dunno what you've been reading, but it sure ain't the ones I have.

>> No.16728309

>>16728175
>In all of those cases they're objectively unnecessary additions and don't contribute anything to further the narrative in a meaningful way (that fade to black can't do).
Regular books, video games and movies also have sex scenes, even ones that aren't necessarily focused on romance. Not usually as explicit as eroge of course unless we're talking about actual porn, but by that same train of logic you could consider pretty much anything non-explicit "unnecessary" as well (like SoL, other character interactions, jokes etc.) if they don't directly contribute to advancing the plot or tie to the work's main themes. And that's an okay opinion to have if you feel like VNs suffer from too much padding, which is admittedly the case way too many times.

Sex is just one type of character interaction and you could certainly complain about non-nukige H-scenes being shit, but I don't think it's fair to say something like Baldr or Senshinkan are worse off specifically because of explicit H-scenes in particular while other character interaction fluff gets a free pass for some reason.

You'd also have a point if talking about whether plot focused games have a need for routes with romance at all. And in that case console / all-ages VNs are just as guilty as eroge, take f.ex. Chaos;Child where the main plot gets thrown out of the window for the compulsory side heroine routes.

>> No.16728326

>>16728309
>Chaos;Child where the main plot gets thrown out of the window for the compulsory side heroine routes.
Should have copied head's route system, where every thing that isn't ending A/AA is locked behind a second playthrough so you don't even need to look at it.

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Does anyone have Dogura Q pages from the Nitroplus Complete magazine (released in November 2009)? I've found one, but some years ago there were also posted another page with characters and two with an article.

>> No.16728358

>>16728339
Dogura Q is going to come out a week before the Tsukihime remake, I can feel it in my bones!

>> No.16728374

>>16728339
>>16728358
Dogura Q, Taiyou no Ko and Hisei no Vulthoom - the holy trinity of never to be released games ;_;

>> No.16728383

>>16728374
shoujobyou :^)

>> No.16728393

>>16728339
For a second you made me think news of Dogura Q appeared recently. Why do you do this to me?

>> No.16728399

>>16728050
Do people actually think the thing on the left looks better...? Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

>> No.16728409

>>16728374
Sakurai and Haganeya are the same person.

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>>16728339
First article page is found.

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>>16728454
Another one.

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>>16728466
Now just one page is needed.

>> No.16728646

>>16726846
how does tsui no sora end?

>> No.16728772

>>16728646
I haven't actually read it, but i've heard that it has a ending similar to tsui no sora 2

>> No.16729064

>>16728175
I like the romances I read to depict all major firsts for the couple because otherwise I feel left out. If the story skips past the couple's first meeting, or their love confession, or their first kiss, or the first time they have sex, or the proposal, or the marriage, I don't feel like a participant in the romance anymore (either as the dude or as the guy who's giving the dude advice.) I just start feeling like a cheerleader on the sidelines, or worse, a stranger. "Uninvolved" is not a word you want to describe your audience.
I don't care if it's encounter, confession, kiss, sex, proposal or marriage, if any of the six fades to black I'd be upset. I don't even care if the sex is hot as long as it's sentimental and gives me closure.
Maybe some people just have better taste than I do and are capable of enjoying a story purely in terms of theme and philosophy. I like that heavy stuff too, but I also like the warmth of watching love bloom between two people. I find simple joy in seeing the heroine smiling at the man she loves, standing on her tiptoes for his kiss, or breathing softly as she sleeps beside him. If an author can take those beautiful moments and somehow make them irksome, then they're just incompetent.
Not every VN has to be a romance, and not every romance has to be 18+. However, in the world where Front Wing, Type-Moon and Nitroplus have all made multiple all ages VNs it's hard to find tears for the prudes.
Skipping to the end of a sex scene will always be an option for them, but those who choose to will miss out on some of the most emotionally intense scenes in all of VNs. The brutal protagonist's motions become suddenly gentle, the kuudere melts and tearfully confesses her feelings in the rush of the moment, the two virgins shudder as they call each other by their first names for the first time- I love it all. If you truly find your VN's sex scenes "skippable", I suggest you find one with a better author.

TLDR: Girls are cute when they have sex

>> No.16729088

>>16729064
>I just start feeling like a cheerleader on the sidelines, or worse, a stranger.
Bad news, but you are
"Uninvolved" is always going to be the word to describe any audience just about. You're not involved. You're reading about those who are.

>> No.16729112

>>16729088
Fine, when you get an alien space princess dropped out of the sky on you don't expect me to convince you to actually go after your much better childhood friend instead.

>> No.16729140

>>16729112
Huh?
No alien space princess will drop on me because I'm not the protagonist. And I won't have a childhood friend because I'm not the protagonist.
I.E. my point was just that your statement there about "feeling like a stranger" struck me as a little silly, because you are indeed a stranger. I'm not going to tell you you're living life incorrectly or anything, but I couldn't help but point out the... delusional idea you had there, I guess.

>> No.16729152

>>16729140
The entire point of immersive media is that you can lose yourself in it. On some level it's delusional to empathize with any fictional characters in any way because they're not real but there's really no point in saying it.

>> No.16729160

>>16729064
I agree completely. Romance VNs tend to be infinitely better with proper sex scenes. And VNs are very obviously made to self-insert, people who don't like this should go find a different medium.

>> No.16729165

>>16729140
Okay, you convinced me. You're right, I, the person who makes every decision about which girl the protagonist loves and how he interacts with her, am completely uninvolved in the romance.

>> No.16729168

>>16729064
I feel the same way, but I don't have to see a sex scene. If it's there, great (I won't skip it), but I don't feel strongly about it and it's not necessary for me. All of the rest is necessary, though.

>> No.16729185

>>16729152
There's a difference between immersion and actually thinking you're playing the part. Especially since, you know, a VN has a ton of dialogue and narration from an MC. Kind of hard to consider yourself the MC when he's constantly thinking and saying and doing things you aren't having any part of. I have no problem with being immersed. I do think it's silly, though, to actually complain about being reminded that no, you're not literally the dude fucking the girl.
>>16729165
Well yeah, more or less. In the first place, you're not making every decision about how he interacts with her. No game has that many choices. And then, beyond that, the MC has a lot of autonomy outside of your control, thinking and doing things outside of the romance you have no control over. What, do you think you're pressing some magical yasashii button to make MCs be yasashii which in turn makes you pretty much the dude fucking her? Sorry, but no. At most, you press a few buttons that trip a flag that sets the MC on the route with a girl, and that's that. You're like a stranger, a cheerleader indeed, guiding the man and woman together, but not being a part of it.
I mean imagine talking to the girl. Like imagine you, YOU, teleported into the VN world. Imagine the conversation. "Hello Mizuki, it's me your boyfriend. Wait, what? I don't look like him? I don't sound like him? Well it's simple, I was playing a VN - you're a video game character character by the way - and I made your boyfriend go to the music room instead of the cafeteria one day, resulting in him meeting you, which ended up with you two dating. That makes me your boyfriend. Don't you love me? I love you. Wait, why are you looking at me like I'm crazy? I'm telling you, I'm the one who set you two up! Thank me! Date me! Why are you running away?! Come back! I'm part of this relationship!!!"

>> No.16729203

>>16729185
Pretending that MC is real and pretending that you are MC are equally delusional because both of them are equally untrue. Forcibly reminding people of this by being forcing them to skip out on an important emotional event is pointless.

>> No.16729215

>>16729185
Okay, chucklefuck, let me spell this out for you.
I KNOW THAT I AM NOT ACTUALLY HER BOYFRIEND.
Imagining that I am her boyfriend makes me happy.
It is easier to imagine I am her boyfriend if I see a dude who is similar to me and I have a degree of control over fuck her adorable brains out.
If I don't get to see her have sex I have to imagine it myself, which is harder. I don't really mind but I didn't pay 10000 yen to do something I can do for free.

>> No.16729220

>>16729203
I'm not pretending that the MC is real, I don't know where you got that from. He's a character in the story. He exists as a story character, is what I was trying to get across, which I think you misunderstood.
Furthermore, people are "forcibly reminded of this" every time the heroine calls the MC by his name (few games let you change names), every time the MC does something they wouldn't, every time they look away from the computer screen and see themself in the room, etc etc. Can't help that.

Like I said. It's fine to be immersed in the STORY. It's just silly to start deluding yourself into thinking you're a part of the story. I even like moege cause I like romance, I just don't go into it with the mindset "I am a significant part of this relationship". I'm reading a story.
>>16729215
That's fine. Like I said, I was just making a little fun at how delusional you are, and how you framed your own personal delusion being interrupted as a serious negative aspect of a story.

>> No.16729222

>>16729185
You're taking part in the MC's actions vicariously. It's not hard for me to self-insert in this way, especially if the MC has some type of similarity to me, something I can relate to. You "become" someone else for a while. That's how I tend to think of it.

>> No.16729231

>>16729220
>I'm not pretending that the MC is real
Yes, but many people do pretend that the characters are real, because it allows you to imagine that you're dealing with actual people having an actual emotional relationship rather than words on a screen backed by empty space for the purpose of making bank.

>> No.16729236

>>16729220
Sure. Fuck me for finding my own way to enjoy a story on the story review thread on a website about stories.
Have a good night Marche, tell your brother I said hi.

>> No.16729256

>>16729222
There are several kinds of games, but nowadays, the amount of control you have over a MC is very slight, almost meaningless. Older games let you steer the flow of conversational more often, but in the end, for everyone 1 action you take the MC says or does 100 things you have no control over. It's meaningless, and definitely not to the point of you becoming someone else.
>>16729231
I would like to think most VN readers approach these with the mindset of appreciating a story, one of a romantic relationship or otherwise, and not with the delusional mindset that one's powerful loneliness will make fictional characters real.
>>16729236
I'm not saying fuck you. Feel free to enjoy it as you like, all the more power to you. I'm just saying you're delusional. You said it yourself - that you're pretending to be someone you're not - so I don't know why you're so upset. If you're going to go to a public forum and shout how delusional you are, expect some people to point it out and laugh a little.

>> No.16729265

>>16729256
> and not with the delusional mindset that one's powerful loneliness will make fictional characters real.
100% of fiction in any genre is appreciated by imagining the characters exist in some sense, because if not, there's no point in getting happy when someone achieves something or getting sad when someone dies because it was all fake bullshit that didn't happen.

>I'm not saying fuck you.
You're telling everybody to point and laugh at the people you've determined are enjoying fiction incorrectly.

>> No.16729277

>>16729265
Now you're just imagining I said things I didn't because your mad. I even said:
>I'm not going to tell you you're living life incorrectly or anything,
to begin with. And I didn't tell other people to point and laugh at you, because I did that myself.

Anyway, 100% of fiction in any genre is appreciated by enjoying the story itself. Imagining them as real does not play a part in it. I get sad when a character dies because I understood their unfulfilled goals and desires, the part they had to play in that story that is now taken from them, not because I'm imagining there's some fantasy world where Ned Stark actually lived and died 100 light years away.

It's all fake bullshit, but I like it anyway. Good stories are fun to read, fake or not. Good characters can be relateable and strong, fake or not. And so on.

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>>16729256
>>16729277

>> No.16729292

>>16729285
Hey, lying brat wears that shirt near me, I'm gonna take him down, no mercy.
The weak should fear the strong.

>> No.16729297

>>16729277
>I'm not going to tell you you're living life incorrectly or anything,
Putting a disclaimer on something does not make it true. If I say "no offense, but you're a rancid cunt," the fact that I said "no offense" does not mean that I gave no offense.

>I get sad when a character dies because I understood their unfulfilled goals and desires, the part they had to play in that story that is now taken from them,
Something that does not exist cannot have goals or desires. There was nothing to take from them, because they did not exist, not any more than you can take away the self-validation of my imaginary friend Bob by claiming he doesn't exist or take away my nonexistent's sister's dream of being a virtuoso violinist by breaking her nonexistent fingers.

>> No.16729314

>>16729297
Well I haven't said you're living life incorrectly, so what I said stands true. You're being delusional, but that's a valid way to life live.

The goals and desires as expressed in the story, not goals and desires as expressed in real life. You're just being pedantic now. The characters do exist in the story, not in real life. That is, they exist insofar as they exist as the letters describing them on the page. The letters also describe their goals. It's sad to me when the written goals, which are not real beyond being described by letters within the story, are left unfilled, because in the story, I wanted to see the character, who exists only as a description of letters, fulfill it.

>> No.16729321

>>16729064
>I don't care if it's encounter, confession, kiss, sex, proposal or marriage
>sex before marriage

L-lewd...

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>>16729321
Its even better when its sex before confession.

>> No.16729354

>>16729344
Aya's route was one of the worst I've ever seen in a dating moe kind of game.
It was halfway through her route after she confessed before I actually got the impression she had positive feelings for the MC.

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This is actually something which slightly bothers me with most eroge who have confession scenes. They confess and everything went smooth while in reality it's pretty awkward start a relationship like this because you never really made a physical approach and are always wondering how to get things started. Always glad when a game actually points out the problems with this.

>> No.16729390

>>16729381
>that GUI
Is that a game about fucking your mother(s) or getting NTR'd?

>> No.16729404

>>16729390
former

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>>16729390
Do you think I'm a sexual deviant? It's of course about fucking your mother.

>> No.16729476

>>16729314
Words on a page are just as unreal as thoughts in your head; 100% unreal. If it's simply a matter of goals unfulfilled, a story that ends on an uncertain note is just as unsatisfying as one where they're all hit by a bus shortly thereafter.

By retreating into the realm of pure literary appreciation and ignoring emotions such as pity or empathy for characters, you're either being pedantic for the sake of the argument or are genuinely detached from fiction from a way that no ordinary person is.

>> No.16729514

>>16729476
Indeed, words are not real, that's why this conversation isn't actually happening. No words to read.

>> No.16730465
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>もう一つ進行している大きなプロジェクト

So what's it gonna be?

>> No.16730569

>>16730465
Something new hopefully.

>> No.16730865

https://youtu.be/-b79KHJ8Dbs
>tfw haven't played the game except the demo
>still looking forward to it

>> No.16731105

>>16728646
There's a reason why Tsui no Sora II is called Tsui no Sora II.

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>>16728050
Some of the CGs look pretty good, actually.

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>>16731227

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>>16728399

I think left looks a lot better and I have not played YU-NO nor did I grow up with that style of art so it's not nostalgia. The one on the right is just bland. I think the average quality of art is much higher nowadays than it was then (pic related), but YU-NO was high-quality for its time and the remake is low-quality for these times, so the difference is striking.

>> No.16731541

>>16731531
>I have not played YU-NO
You really should, you can even get a voice patch for pc.

>> No.16731547

>>16731531
I don't believe you, ossan.

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>>16731531
Yu-no has it fair share of stinkers too

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>>16731583

Wow, look at them huge traps (意味深). That one is not great, yeah. I haven't seen nearly all YU-NO's CGs of course so I am just judging from what I've seen here and there. I just like the PC-98 style a lot when it's done well, like Possessioner (https://vndb.org/v9016).). Can't get enough of that dithering.

>>16731541

I do plan to eventually. My backlog of stuff to read is mountains high but that is definitely on the list.

>> No.16732074

>>16731531
Really my biggest problem with the remake's art is there's something about the faces that's incredibly offputting to me, and I don't like the color palette they chose.

>> No.16732138

>>16700469

What is that first kanji in her dialogue with a ton of strokes?

I'm having trouble finding it.

Thanks jay.

>> No.16732179

>>16732138
This is not the thread to reveal your incompletency and ask such questions.

The whole word is 鬱陶しい. And then 塵, cause I doubt you know this either. Only telling you so you don't ask here again. Next time ask in DJT.

>> No.16732300

Finished スイセイギンカ, quite a disappointment. The writer has a nice and interesting idea plus a good introduction imo, but after the opening movie/individual routes everything regarding the story went downhill. I don't know how to explain how bad it is but I'm pretty sure it's pretty fucking bad, at least compared to the common route part. Hscenes are pretty hot though, but that's not what I'm looking for from a brand like 暁works :(

>> No.16732318

>>16732300
Anything more specific?

>> No.16732360

>>16732300

I just hope he didn't repeat everything several times like in Hapimaher. Like one girl had daddy-drama during the common route (if you want to go through her route) and the same thing again in her actual route later on. And if you buy the fandisc? Same thing once more. I really don't know how the fuck that can happen. But both Hapimaher and its fandisc are pretty good at first, and later on just recycle something that was done pretty much the exact same way before already.

So.. hearing it's good at first and suffers later on makes me worry. (though Hapimaher had at least a fine true-route. Of course its plot was recycled during the later part of the fandisc giving that one a really weak finish.. but hey) At least it's supposed to be a bit on the shorter end.

>> No.16732432

Is Ou Jackson still active?

>> No.16732453

>>16732432
last I saw was him writing an LN that hasn't received a new volume in a while

>> No.16732730

>>16732179

Thanks, I guess.

>> No.16732761

>>16732730
The other guy was a little harsh, but I do agree that DJT is where you should go for such questions.

>> No.16732794

Various themes of Saihate no Ima

At first, Saihate no Ima appears to be about friendship and loneliness, about a group of young individuals struggling to find their way in the world. About the tendency of humans to group together, to obstracise those who don't belong, and the tale of some children who, faced with the harsh realities of society, form an unbreakable bond. As newfound friends they make a home for themselves, and turn their lives of solitude into that of hope and laughter.

Then you see the background of a Japan rebuilding its identity after the war. The setting of abandoned warehouses and people without purpose in life reflects the sense of desolation in postwar Japan culture. And the tenuous alliance with America in the face of the threat the united countries of the rest of the world pose, humanity's failure to unite even in the face of imminent destruction, is a clear allegory for the doomed fate of civilisation to never reach undying peace, a social commentary on the inevitability of war.

Now the real themes begin to reveal themselves, namely, the sanctity of the human mind. Are thoughts mere electronic impulses by neurons, free will an illusion for the convenience of the survival of an evolutionally created biological supercomputer? Or is consciousness something more, something that transcends the the sum of its parts and possess true meaning in this universe? And is a global consciousness, the combining of humanity to truly become one, truly understand, accept and welcome each other, the desired end goal? Or is the individual self, and the interactions with other unique individuals, more precious?

But the final theme is of course love. The driving force to sacrifice everything to save the world, for the sake of the people you love. Appreciation of how important those everyday conversations and fleeting moments are when they're with the people you care about. And hope, hope that we will build a brighter future together.

What a great VN.

>> No.16732826

>>16732794
Congratulations.

>> No.16733001

>>16732730
>>16732761
Sorry.

Being a dick is easy and appealing.

>> No.16733058
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F/SN illustration by Sca-ji.

>> No.16733504

>>16733058
Now that you think about it, Scaji has being an anime, manga, LN and eroge fan along side being an eroge artist and scenario writer for over 10 years now. He started from doujin works to an official company. Above all that he is a passionate reader who read a lot of books on literature, art, philosophy and science. Is there anything that this man can't do?

>> No.16733509

>>16733504
Write something that uses philosophy decently?

>> No.16733512

>>16733509
fuck off retard

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can someone recommend charage(i think thats the genre?) with characters like her?

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>> No.16733594

>>16733504
Don't see what's so impressive about devoting time to both otaku hobbies and art, literature, and philosophy. Except maybe to people who only spend time on otaku hobbies.

>> No.16733620

>>16733550
top version looks like the woman is 20 years older

and i'm not into grandmas, so bottom

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>>16733620
>i'm not into grandmas

Why not?

>> No.16733692

>>16733669
Because if you're into girls over 10 years old you need to get out of /jp/ right now.

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Finished Humanity, or at least I think I did since the game finally unlocked the extra screen and all the CGs seem to be unlocked.

It's definitely mostly a comedy game so if you play it you should dive in expecting that. There's drama and the background sci-fi setting that the game very slowly unravels is pretty nice, but there's not that much noticeably heavier and longer "real deal" part despite the title screen and its solemn BGM making me expect something along those lines. Enjoyment mostly depends on how much you happen to like the characters and humor. I was initially considering to drop the game due to protagonist's best friends being a cliche idiot and turbofaggot, plus many other characters could also be classified into regular archetypes as well but in the end they and the gags managed to somewhat grow on me. Few of Towako route's jokes in particular completely slayed me, specifically the one scene where she finally falls into the hole obliterated my sides.

In terms of plot Towako route and the next chapter were my favorite parts and in my opinion the game peaked there, I even expected Matka with its climax to be the final chapter so the game still continuing caught me by surprise. However, the next one after that felt kind of weak in comparison despite the initial big revelation concerning the setting since I was expecting for the shit to hit the fan in some even grander way, but it was just more humor and personal character drama. Made me wonder why'd the writer decided to put what I considered mostly side characters' personal arcs after the actual heroines, followed by a rather sudden final ending that was also pretty vague and mostly managed to enact a big "what the fuck?", and not really in a good way.

The weirdness that I did kind of like was that the side heroine routes didn't have any romantic development. At all in fact, not even hints or anything and they were more about getting to know the characters / becoming friends with them. Emi's "route" being a direct continuation of Towako's (without any romance in a similar vein to Aya and Dalia / Veronica) in particular felt pretty novel. In general I think the whole humans vs. 亜人 thing was also handled well and didn't fall into a cheap melodramatic "discrimination is wrong" plot with convenient bad guys or dry "character realizes their misconceptions" stuff despite the differences between the two being the main theme and the game taking place in a high school with separated classes.

Art is what it is and took some time to get used to, and certain backgrounds in particular looked horrible. Characters had different designers and it really stood out. Music was pretty good, there's plenty of tracks (5 of them with vocals) and I especially liked Towako's leitmotif. Overall a pretty decent title with the middle parts being best.

>> No.16733742

>>16733721
How long is it?

>> No.16733762

>>16733742
I didn't time myself, but the official site states 15-20h while two EGS reviews say 25h.

>> No.16733784

>>16733721
I'm glad someone liked it.
I actually almost dropped it because of the cliche idiot/turbo-okama duo too, but they grew on me as well.
I'm half glad and half sad there's not many "real deal" parts. Glad because it means I didn't miss much, but sad because it means the game didn't reach the heights I hoped for it to.

>> No.16734382

>>16733550
I can't wrap my head around how someone can like the dull, uninspired, generic crap on the bottom. Virtually everything about the top is superior.

>> No.16734387
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>>16727629
Yes. Definitely worth a read for Hayama Coyote fans, despite some pacing issues.

>> No.16734489

I'm looking for a romcom with good comedy, doesn't have to be anything special. Something with a vibe similar to School Rumble I guess.

>> No.16734505

>>16734489
You've come to the right place
Try nora neko, it's very much not something special

>> No.16734516

>>16734505
Wherein did noraneko have good comedy?

>> No.16734528

>>16734505
That title has been on my radar for a while. How are the routes? Too often the writer wrote a charming common route only to crash and burn in individual routes with forced drama.

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>>16734528
>too often the writer wrote a charming common route only to crash and burn in individual routes with forced drama.
Well, uh, Noraneko did not accomplish that, so forget about it
>>16734516
Wasn't a huge fan myself but pic related was a big hit in this thread when the game came out, a lot of people found her dialogue especially funny. And the side characters.

>> No.16734606

>>16734516
Most of the common route was pretty funny.

>>16734528
>charming common route only to crash and burn in individual routes with forced drama
You're spot on.

>> No.16734743

Hanasaki Work Spring! or Floral Flowlove?

>> No.16735088
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16735088

>people asking moogy if he sucks nigger cocks on ask.fm

thank you jp

>> No.16735199

>>16735088
you mean /vn/

>> No.16735217

Holy fucking shit, how do I run Dies Irae on Windows 10?
Just got a new computer and spent the whole day setting up VirtualBox with Windows 7, but the process just stops right after I try running it.
I don't really want to just install Windows 7, since, you know, it's like a decade old (plus, according to a list I found, Dies is pretty much the only one that can't run on Win10).

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>>16735217
Works for me on Windows 10

>> No.16735229

>>16735217
Just wait for the localization.

>> No.16735243

>>16735229
Will it also have the Japanese text, though?

Anyways, nevermind. I just tried running it again on Win10 and it just worked. It was all for nothing, what the hell orz

>> No.16735352

>>16734489
Konno Aozora ni Yakusoku wo

>> No.16735644

>>16734489

School Rumble ain't happening with VN. You usually have one dude (protagonist) and a bunch of moe-blobs in your "comedy" VN. The protagonist can't even be called a character, given that you never really see him, he isn't voiced and has no real role other than being a wall to bounce back dialogue of the girls. So how does the comedy work? If you don't know, consider yourself lucky.

So, with that in the clear, what can you do? Maybe go with Majikoi. That has a lot of guys and girls, but it has a bunch of different themes going on as well. Also the downside is, that the guys are so much superior to the girls, if you ask me. (and the fact it got milked way too much, but if you can ignore that..)
Other than that, going with somewhat high rated moege-ish titles on EGS is a thing too. (Daitoshokan for example) Still very different from School Rumble, but I don't think there's really anything at all that fits. Comedy isn't the medium's strength. (as in the genre) Nor "a lot of characters". I quite liked School Rumble myself, so I wouldn't mind VNs with similar vibes, but alas. It's not like there are tons of Anime similar to it either. I know like 1.

>> No.16735656

>>16735644
Isn't that Little Busters

>> No.16735684

>>16735656

Actually that could be kinda fitting as well. I haven't actually read that. But I suppose Key in general could work for the comedy part. (i.e. Rewrite) There's also some overdrive games that may work. Maple Colors also looks like it could fit, but I only have that on my backlog.
But in the end they all kinda become something different than School Rumble. I mean I don't necessarily want my VN to end with a pie in the face of the protagonist, but even apart of that.

>> No.16735693

>>16735644
>Comedy isn't the medium's strength. (as in the genre)
I think comedy is fine in VNs. I read humanity recently (see above for someone else's review) and was laughing throughout. If you read games that aren't good, it's only natural that you won't find any funny ones.

>> No.16735716

>>16735693

It's not a comedy game though, isn't it? That's why I said the genre. Comedy can be fine in a VN. But "comedy VN" are usually not good.
I had a lot of fun with something like Harukuru as well. Chuusotsu can be pretty funny as well. And there are plenty more. But those aren't comedy VN.

It really comes down to a work being good I suppose. If a writer is good, the chance for the comedy being good is higher. Most comedy VN however don't have good writers. That's why they try to get by with sol, comedy, romance and such in the first place I suppose? Exceptions exist for sure. But it's not really a genre that's very established in this medium I think. Probably in part because of the length requirements, making it fit better with manga/4-koma.

>> No.16735720

How do you guys find time to keep up with all the new releases?

>> No.16735725

>>16735720
If you aren't a NEET you need to get out right now.

>> No.16735748

>>16735716
It's a comedy game.
Another comedy game, Rakuen (aikawarazu) is good.

>> No.16735867

>>16735720

Did read 0 new things from the end february releases. Was pretty easy. What's your issue?

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16736337

So what's the connection of Sumire to Narcissu Sumire? I know it shares characters, but is it like an alternate timeline or what? I was interested in reading the former and then I guess the latter if people say it's good, but I'm not really interested in reading all the Narcissu spin offs/sequels (read 1 a long time ago and didn't like it much).

>> No.16736790

>>16735716
>VN" are usually not good.
Not sure about 'usual' part, but I've read Henshin!!! Pantsu from May-Be Soft. Pretty awesome comedy game.

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16736858

What's your most hyped upcoming release?

After how good Chuusotsu was, I have to go with this.

>> No.16736872

>>16736858
I don't think something without a release date counts as upcoming. If it does, then I'll go with the Tsukihime Remake and Sakura no Toki. Also looking forward to the voiced version of Mushi no Me later this year.

>> No.16736875

>>16734743
I liked FloFlo's scenario better although it's more serious and dense, so if you want fluffy iyashi then Hanasaki.

>> No.16736928

>>16736858
Considering I tend to only look a month or two ahead so 新妻LOVELY×CATION. ようこそ! スケベエルフの森へ nukige wise

>> No.16737043

>>16736858
Istoria, probably because anything more than a month away I try to pretend doesn't exist due to the effects of hype poisoning.

>>16736872
>Tsukihime Remake
I admire your optimism if nothing else. Maybe they'll double-package it with Girl's Work too.

>> No.16737136

>>16732138
If you want, use google translate draw function, I doubt everbody here knows every single obscure chuuni word, plant name, obscure kanji etc.
It also saves time looking up weird readings too like 豪州.

>> No.16737143

>>16733528
what's she like?

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>>16734743
I liked Hanasaki workspring it also seemed more popular plus it had the best girl

>> No.16737160

>>16735644
everytime i see majikoi i think of majokoi...
I kinda would like more people to talk about the latter it had cutter girls and is more plotge

>> No.16737161

>>16737136
That's not an obscure reading. Maybe obscure definition, but the reading is exactly as you would assume it.

>> No.16737162

>>16737136
>It also saves time looking up weird readings too like 豪州.

But ごうしゅう is the obvious reading for it. 豪 is read like that in words like 豪華 and suffix 州 is a basic word.

Similarly 鬱陶しい is common in eroge. And ultimately its reading is obvious too, when you think about it 鬱 as うつ from 憂鬱 and 陶 as とう from 陶芸.

>> No.16737186

>>16737161
>>16737162
Right my bad, it is easy to read. I guess I meant it has a weird way of writing it and at a glance you wouldn't know what it meant, plus I don't think most people would know what it means at glance. I've even seen people ask why its spelt that way.

Also yeah I agree 鬱陶しい is very common, I just meant to tell him for things you don't know in general use the draw function on google translate.

>> No.16737197

>>16737151
Best girl, but her route was so stupid

>> No.16737325

>>16736928
PlayDRM ;)

>> No.16737381

>>16737197
if I had a dollar for every time this happened I would probably be able to buy one (1) whole full-priced eroge but would still be just as angry.

>> No.16737469

>>16737197
Personally I liked the drama, or at least the theme of it. Yeah it was stupid as fuck but still something I'd like to see more.

>> No.16737513

>>16737325
Is there one PlayDRM game which isn't already cracked?

>> No.16737544

Anybody still have that 混ぜて hanasaki cuckspring image, where the mc gets cucked.

>> No.16737555
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>>16737544
no, but i kept this one

>> No.16737576

is 新約 永遠のアセリア a sequel or a remake?

>> No.16737612

>>16737513
壁の向こうの妻の嬌声2 is not cracked, the "crack" is a renamed demo .exe that only runs the game incidentally and some stuff doesn't work.

Besides, all PlayDRM cracks from that chinese guy take advantage of patched demo .exes which could be easily prevented by removing significant portions of unused code from demos, using strong encryption on important files or not releasing demos at all (sadly, eroge devs don't get the memo). I can't respect that guy when he's using such dirty methods to produce a crack.

>> No.16737635

>>16737612
>壁の向こうの妻の嬌声2

From what I understand it does have a proper crack but it's exclusive for the VIP micon board.

>> No.16737682

>>16737635
I'm talking about public cracks obviously

>> No.16737901

Do I have time to finish Kami no Ue no Mahoutsukai before Istoria comes out?

>> No.16737910

>>16737901
Don't rush, the game isn't running away. Kamimaho is very good as well, so enjoy it.

>> No.16738193
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16738193

Finished my first run of Konosora, Ageha route.

This one manages to tell a pretty nice "chasing a dream" story in the common route. It does add a bit of really forced and crappy drama here and there, but it's relatively rare. You know, the usual "purposely withholding information aka it's not actually bad", making things seem worse at first than they end up being and so on. But, again, it's rather rare.

The route however was unfortunately way less good. The drama issues are still there, now way more common. Now even with really awkward character behavior to cause it.
But even without that it feels so different. There are two new girls introduced towards the end of the common route. It kinda builds up an issue here with one of them not really liking her sister participating and insisting on not being a club-member herself and whatnot.. which gets outright forgotten in the route. As if she is a normal member. That's a pretty good sign of an author-switch. However even all the main-story around flying feels completely different, as all the technical parts are more or less missing. The whole common route feeling of building a glider together, sorting things out and then flying including all the challenges that gives.. no longer there. The flight at the end is also insanely disappointing. It feels like things just happen but you aren't really involved anymore.

Of course there's romance, and maybe that's the reason. But this was also rather crappy and generic. The biggest issue was however that it was a love-triangle of sorts, and the heroine (Ageha) is just so much less interesting that her sister (Hotaru). And of course you don't have a choice in the matter. Even without that though, it was very meh moege tier.


A.. steep fall. Though I've heard already that the routes aren't the strength of the game, this was quite a far departure from what made the common route so great, if you ask me.

>> No.16738210

>>16738193
Only kotori and amane had decent routes.

>> No.16738225

>>16738210
Are those the ones by Konno Asta?

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>>16738210

I figured those are the "main"-routes. Unfortunate, that those are the least interesting heroines though. (in my opinion) I should probably just skip the twins, but.. I doubt I really will be able to, and just crash and burn once more.

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Oh god this scene was so awesome. It could be so much better if they didn't fuck it up with that ending though, but still it was a pretty great ride.

>> No.16738540

Do you guys get any shills or is it that since you all pirate nobody bothers at it might be counter-intuitive

>> No.16738543

>>16737197
賛成

>> No.16738560

>>16738540
It's probably the fact that this is... an English speaking website. There's no reason why shills would choose this place over Japanese communities.

>> No.16738827

does anyone else think opening movies don't really belong in VNs? they seem kinda spoilerific in most cases and you see them once and never again

>> No.16738860

>>16738540
the only shills ive seen are stealth marketers trying to game the egs rankings.

>> No.16738900

>>16738827
No? They're cool as fuck. EDs too. And you see them every time you boot up the VN usually, you just choose to skip them. It's the same as starting a new episode of anime and skipping the OP there. Spoiler in "most cases" is a huge exaggeration as well, I don't remember any in the last dozen or so and even if it's usually like mild first chapter stuff. And again on that point, nothing makes it different than hypothetical anime OP spoilers.

>> No.16738919

>>16738827
I like them they show what the game has in store for you and let's you see some of the game's CGs and quality.

I sometimes even pick VNs from it.

>> No.16738931

>>16738827
I usually skip the OPs myself because of that, as most of the times they're just a stream of CGs and I like to avoid spoilers as much as possible.
I remember one of the Polyphonica games basically showed every single CG in the game in order in the OP and that was a shitty thing to do.

>> No.16739005

>>16738900

Very few VN actually show the OP at start-up. If I had to guess based on what I play.. 5%? Maybe 10%.
It's actually surprisingly common to ONLY see the OP at a specific part early in the game. Not when starting the game. Not when waiting in the main-menu. Not even part of the extras. And then you have the funny ones like recent Moonstone games where you can trigger the opening by choosing to "test" the movie sound-volume. No other way though.. aside of reaching it in the story of course.

As for what's part of the OP depends on the game. Can be everything from random beach events to fist kiss cg. They are doubling as PV and well.. yeah. How good they also work as an opening seems to be less important.

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16739219

I like boobs...

>>16729354
I thought lovely x cation was relatively well liked around here and so I've been looking forward to reading it. Is it just her route that's bad? How's the humor?

>> No.16739259

>>16737901
probably not, paper wizards is really, really long.
i mean it's structured in nice arcs with buildup, climax, falling action etc. so you could take it in chunks as opposed to one big binge. but the whole thing is long.

i'd read Unmei Yohou first instead if i were you

>> No.16739274

While we're on the topic, post really good VN OPs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yegE5ai9abQ

>> No.16739322

>>16739219
Lovely Cation 2 is very good. Lovely Cation 1 was, I feel, the author getting his sea legs on romance games. So it's very rough. Not bad, but not something I'd recommend, except for people who really want to romance older women which is surprisingly uncommon in these kinds of games.

>> No.16739505

what the fuck is happening in amatsutsumi
i am straight baffled, everyone is behaving in a clinically insane and frankly disturbing fashion at only half an hour in but the BGM and the sprites and the narration are all trying to tell me that everything is fine and this is a normal cute development that we'll all have a lighthearted chuckle over later.

help
i mean clearly the MC doesn't have the strongest grasp of normal people ethics but i can think of no reason why poor Koharun isn't making a beeline for the nearest police station after he pulls that little "lol im ur oniisan now" stunt.

like what the fuck. do you WANT your bestie to get raped by the strange man she picked up by the side of the road who is now living in her house oh and also now you know she'll literally do anything he commands her to?

>> No.16739582

>>16739005
right, somehow ive come to think of when the OP starts as the "real" start of the VN proper, whatever came before is just a prologue.

this doesn't always work though, in some cases theres just no OP and I was reading for ages until I realized that

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>>16739219
>I thought lovely x cation was relatively well liked around here and so I've been looking forward to reading it. Is it just her route that's bad?
I personally loved Aya's route in LxC. Really good combination of a turbo-loner protagonist with a turbo-loner antisocial heroine. The parts before the proper dating were great, with the two hardly even talking and just playing against each other in an arcade. Though it's the only route I played and I hear certain other routes have some really shitty contrived drama. Aya's also has some drama towards the end, but it's not very long.

LxC2 is however still the best game with best heroines, and pretty much does away with all drama, though I personally disliked how it and the later games in the series made the protagonist more of a blank slate.

>> No.16739838

>>16739820
I played other routes in LxC, and unfortunately, even the MC in lxc turns into a blank slate. Like in the nurse route, he becomes proactive and not a loner neet at all within seconds.

>> No.16739921

new thread

>>16739917
>>16739917

>> No.16739938

>>16739820
>>16739322
Thank you both. Sounds like Aya wrecked the MC pretty hard in that image. Reminds me of the time when I got destroyed by my /jp/sie friend at the arcade, but that's not for this thread.

Anyway, I think I'll plan on reading Cation 1 first, then 2 later probably. Just feels like it would be best to do them in order even if they supposedly don't have any plot relation.

>> No.16740686

>>16739005
It's more of a recent thing for OPs to only play during the story after the "intro." If you look at older eroge most of them will play the OP when the game is started, and sometimes again during the story.

>> No.16740691 [DELETED] 

>>16739005
>Very few VN actually show the OP at start-up. If I had to guess based on what I play.. 5%? Maybe 10%.
lmao you must be playing some weird shit because I've randomly clicked 5 VNs in my folder without looking and they all started with the OP

>> No.16740693

>>16739219
>ntr
why?

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