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Air superiority calculator/fleet builder:
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Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818
Warspite: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HHpzOklOtf0l4UaKRQ5_5kKXoFfTK6qGFAXBvzJmemI/edit#gid=0

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me

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Debuffs exist for the E3 map and boss fleet. When the gauge falls to within 660 HP, the boss has a further debuff at last kill. Debuffing the map will open a new starting point closer to the boss. Debuffing the boss fleet is believed to lower the armour of the two CV hime. Debuffing the boss at last kill makes her take extra damage with each hit. For hard mode, it also sets her at final form, allowing the gauge to be destroyed, instead of having to sink her normal form first for each last kill attempt. How to debuff:
-To debuff the E3 map: clear the transport gauge. (Doing so will also enable the use of up to 2 land base squadrons for support at E3.)
-To debuff the E3 boss fleet: after clearing the transport gauge, acquire one S rank each at nodes I and J. S ranks obtained prior to clearing the transport gauge will not count.
-To debuff the E3 boss at last kill: clear the debuffing quest which appears when you reach last kill, and which requires two A ranks at node J.

For the E3 map debuff, a cutscene will play revealing the second starting point.
For the E3 boss fleet debuff, if you hear the quest completion jingle when you return to base after a sortie, it means the debuff is successful. You only get to hear it once per successful debuff.
WARNING: All debuffs will reset if switching difficulties. Any progress made will also be reset.

News:
-The Winter 2017 event, a 3 map event titled "Reconnaissance Forces Emergency Deployment! Operation 'Hikari'", has started. It consists of 2 standard operation maps and an extra operation map. The event will end on February 28.
-The new ships implemented for this event are Matsukaze (E2 reward), Fujinami (E2 drop), I-13 (E3 drop) and I-14 (E3 reward).
-Setsubun lines and sprites have been removed and replaced with Valentine's Day lines and sprites, including new Valentine's Day sprites for Oboro, Takanami and Minazuki.
-Zara is slated for a Kai 2 on February 28. Saratoga will also get a second remodel.
-The 5th year of KanColle will see foreign ships from "interesting places".
-New Akizuki- and Matsu-class destroyers and escort carriers are under plans to be added.

>> No.16630567

ZARA'S HEAD IS TOO LARGE

>> No.16630570

>>16630567
AND UGLY

>> No.16630589

What's the logic behind the ASW equipment bonuses on the boss?

>> No.16630591
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>>16630561
IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE AOBA'S TURN

>> No.16630593

>>16630589

The boss is the twin subs you want to find and fug.

>> No.16630598

>>16630589
I don't know, anon, it's not like the Abyssal twins are based on two submarines.

>> No.16630602

So /jp/ for E-3 hp gauge, is the hidden debuff necessary or just the one that locks the princess into their final form?

>> No.16630604

>>16630591
Zara may be ugly shit, but I'm glad Aoba got passed over.

>> No.16630605

>>16630589
Devs realized that a sub final boss was going to be the most boring shit ever so they decided to make her a regular boss but with ASW and Seiran modifiers.

>> No.16630607

>>16630602
Well, do you want to do last dance once or twice?

>> No.16630614

>>16630167
I fucking did it /kcg/, double attack did wonders on ktkm, she and ayanami did 200+ damage each.

>> No.16630618

welp i gave up this event since i don't have ships that can tackle E-2 but at least i got 7 subs now thanks to non stop farming on E-1. Not bad for my first event i guess.

>> No.16630620

>>16630618
You are lucky the only thing you are going to miss out on is the pimped out Saiun and not something you cannot miss.

>> No.16630626

What are the best BBs stat-wise?

+ Why is Warspite so cheap to run?

>> No.16630627

>>16630618
Use kidou

>> No.16630632

>>16630620
im like 2 weeks old and im still struggling to finish 2-4 because compass is an ass now it's only a miracle that i finished E-1 from my veritable ragtag shitty fleet of CL and DD's

>> No.16630633

>>16630626
because she's useless for anything but support

>> No.16630635

>>16630607
Is Last dance easy enough to do twice?

>> No.16630638

>>16630633
useless ? I thought she was good

>> No.16630645

>>16630638
good for support expedition. Bad at everything else except she is a BB and that's it.

>> No.16630650

>>16630645
She has 4th highest FP

>> No.16630659

>>16630525
There are also several others who couldn't kill the boss with Kasumi in their fleet and only managed to do it after I told them to throw her away.

>Whether she's base luck or not she's viable to use.
Yukikaze, Ayanami, Shigure are preferred over her though.
Atago is also viable but that doesn't change the fact Haguro is a better choice.

Whenever someone asks about luckmodding, that one guy suggesting Maya, Myoukou and Kasumi keeps popping up. He doesn't care whether someone is a newfag or not.

>> No.16630668

>>16630659
How do you know it's one guy?

>> No.16630675

>>16630659
Kasumi's base luck isn't high, but it isn't low either. Fine if some people found that she didn't work, but that's not everyone.

>He doesn't care whether someone is a newfag or not.
That's for luck modding ships, not for which base luck ships should be used for TCI. Otherwise you might as well say that newfags use TCI on base luck Poi because everyone suggests to luck mod her.

>> No.16630680

>>16630638
She's decent, main problem is she's slow and slow BBs often get fucked over by routing. And when they don't you usually either go all out with Hotels or use Fusous for bombers.
Good for some EOs or weeklies when you just want a cheap BB, I guess.

>> No.16630681

>>16630668
Just a hunch.

>>16630675
>because everyone suggests to luck mod her
What?

>> No.16630685

>>16630650
And?

>> No.16630687

>>16630659
The ultimate Kantai pill is realizing luck modding the flagship of your heart is the best way to play.

>> No.16630689

>>16630687
If anything it's the flagship that needs luck modding the least.

>> No.16630698

>>16630681
Fine, everyone other than "your waifu"fags.

>> No.16630699

>>16630680
Considering she's closer to the cost of higher tier CAs than Pasta BBs she seems pretty good value, wondering if running her married & speed modded at 5-4 would be better than pasta & ap

>> No.16630710

>>16630687
Yeah. Luckmodding is a big investment so it should naturally go to ship you WANT to use the most as luck improves her stats.

If you were at the level where you can fully luckboost Maya or Yuudachi, rest of your fleet and eq should already be in a shape where you don't need any luckboosting for clearing events. Going full statfag with luckmodding is outright stupid. It's much better to luckboost your waifu so she becomes more viable and you don't have to use same fleet as everyone else.

>> No.16630719

>>16630710
>and you don't have to use same fleet as everyone else.
Except if you post your special snowflake fleet on an anonymous imageboard, that's nothing more than attention whoring.

>> No.16630722

>>16630698
Only one everyone suggests is Abukuma.

>> No.16630724

>>16630719
No, it isn't. You're just a moron who should fuck off instead of forcing his retarded rules on everyone.

>> No.16630728

>>16630722
Everyone suggests her as first choice. Poi is further down the line but people still suggest her.

>> No.16630730

Yuudachi is pretty much perma-support in events. In regular maps, DA is enough.There just isn't much point to luckmodding her super fast.

>> No.16630731

>>16630698
So, one or two people which I'm talking about and explaining how they're wrong?

>> No.16630734

>>16630724
If people can recognise who you are just from your screenshot, posting it is no different from avatarfagging.

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>>16630710
Once you luck buff everyone, your waifu having low luck can be what makes her special

>> No.16630737

>>16630734
You are retarded and have no idea what avatarfagging is.

>> No.16630748

>>16630719
Posting any map clear is attention whoring then. Because why would you post it if not for "look at me I did it".

>> No.16630749

>>16630719
>>16630734
No wonder threads are shit when no-fun cancer like you lurks around.

>> No.16630754

>>16630632
at least now you can use your new subs to cheese 2-4

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16630756

Do you use Shiden K2, /jp/? Do you think it will become upgradable? Will we ever get Shiden K2 (343 Air Group) or (Kanno Squadron)/other named variants?

>> No.16630757

>>16630748
It's not attention whoring if you use a cookie cutter fleet because then no one knows whose fleet it is.

>> No.16630760

What's the minimum level required if I want to subcheese 5-3?

Just wanted to see if clearing it via subcheese is more efficient than doing it the traditional way.

>> No.16630764

>>16630757
People post the images to get attention. There's no difference, retard, except for your autism which makes you angry whenever you recognize something. You are the problem.

>> No.16630766

>>16630764
There are non-autistic people on /jp/?

>> No.16630767

Is it safe to scrap urapotato? Any other operation she participated? Im running out of slots so trying to open up space with ships I don't like/use.

>> No.16630774

>>16630767
Uranami is more important than whatever DD you are trying to keep.

>> No.16630781

>>16630766
There are good and bad kinds of "autism".

>> No.16630783

>>16630757
It is, you just don't mind it as much.

>> No.16630784

>>16630767
She was useful for quests and has a decent chance of having branching in the future.

>> No.16630791

>>16630767
>Is it safe to scrap

No, especially when the ship is rare and in case you DO need her it'll take a while to get her back.

>> No.16630802

>>16630784
Already done with her quests but it's gonna be a pain to get her back.
>>16630791
This is the only reason im asking for advice, why didn't they make her a common drop? Fuck Tanaka.

>> No.16630809

>>16630760
1 probably.

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>> No.16630818 [DELETED] 

>>16630749
Said no-fun people show up in droves whenever people Hatsuharufag turns up. Don't deny it.

>> No.16630823 [DELETED] 

>>16630818
Said no-fun people show up in droves whenever people like Hatsuharufag turn up. Don't deny it.

>> No.16630825

>>16630710
You would think people would realize power doesn't matter as much as equipment quality for torpedo cut-in after this event's E3 transport. The subs are weaker than Ooyodo and Mutsukis and all it took was 1 or 2 crits to sink CA Hime who has 175 armor at worst. Hell, some TTKs even used quads.

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>>16630817
>mfw I just got Teruzuki just for luck
RNG is a bitch.

>> No.16630827

>>16630749
Said no-fun people show up in droves whenever people like Hatsuharufag turn up. Don't deny it.

>> No.16630829

>>16630818
>>16630823
Dude, nice.

>> No.16630832

>>16630825
Of course it won't matter for enemies with piss poor armour.

>> No.16630854

>>16630817
These images are such cancer.

>> No.16630857

>>16630748
It's actually true.

>>16630827
This is what's called the "heckler's veto" and it should be opposed on principle.

>> No.16630861

>>16630854
Nah, they're just silly and stupid. That time that admin or mod or whatever posted that whole rant on the event page was cancer.

>> No.16630863

>>16630832
>175
>poor
If you need crits to sink a boss with double attack, it's not poor.

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>>16630561
First time this has happened to me. Feels bad.

>> No.16630867

Holy fuck. My resources dried out and I couldn't kill the boss. At least I should get Iyo from kuso, right? 50k isn't enough if you include farming, really.

>> No.16630869

>>16630863
After summer 2015, anything with less than 300 armour is poor.

>> No.16630897

>>16630857
Because he's an example of an attention whore?

>> No.16630910

What's the latest and greatest 5-5 comp assuming end game ships/equips

>> No.16630916

>>16630910
3FBB3CVB
The bottke neck is still REEEEEEEE roulette.

>> No.16630926

>>16630867
Wo's favorite number always refers to clearing. Individual drops are purely up to your luck.

>> No.16630929

Is it too late to start E3 Hard?

>> No.16630937

>>16630926
Yeah, I asked to much from my fleet. I swear I will prepare better next time. But it's also a shame for losing my chance to get that shiny saiun. It will never come back.

>> No.16630942

>>16630869
On that note, is Air Defense Hime a justifiable reason to luckmod KTKM?

>>16630929
Assuming you have the free time from now until maintenance, then no.

>> No.16630949

>>16630929
50k resources and 300+ buckets for tanking RNG faggotery.

>> No.16630958

>>16630942
>1 extreme instance that has never been seen again
>a justifiable reason

>> No.16630963

>>16630869
With the debuff the over 300 armor was just for show, even trophy DDs could beat her up.

>> No.16630964

>>16630958
E6 AL/MI m8

>> No.16630979

>>16630964
>going back even further
>a justifiable reason

>> No.16630982

>>16630817
Fuck off.

>> No.16630985

>>16630979
clearly with LBAS and other power-creep there are going to be less events where this is required, but then end game isn't about preparing for the everyday

>> No.16630992

Could I beat E3 easy with 3k fuel 6k ammo?

>> No.16630997

>>16630992

Maybe. If you can kill the seductive twin bosses every run.

>> No.16631005

nope can't finish this event on E-3E because Tsu-class trolls so hard he can singlehandedly taiha 1-4 ships in whole turn.

Fuck him

>> No.16631006

>>16630997
OK. That's possible then, will there be any chance in the future to get that Saiun (Eastern)?

>> No.16631015

>>16630964
I remember those days, I think my half-assed KTKM luckmod was from that event.

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>>16630910
If you only have 3 16in guns, give Iowa a max 46cm.
If you only have 2 16in guns, give Roma two max 46cms.
If you only have 1 16in guns, give Iowa a max 46cm and Roma two max 46cms.
If you don't have any 16in gun, give both two max 46cms.

Swap out any Shiun you don't have for a Yamato plane. Swap out Roma's first.

If you have a second Tenzan M12 Murata, use it; put it in Zuikaku's slot and shift the Tenzan M12 Tomonaga to Shoukaku's large slot.

>> No.16631035

>>16631021
Can't wait for 4CVB meta.
>tfw Sara mod.2 come in November.

>> No.16631036

>>16631021
Almost forgot the Re.2005 Kai. If you don't have it just use another max skilled Zero M52.

>> No.16631037

>>16631021
>16inch
>46cm
Is this nigger serious? Re's evasion is barely above flagship I-class.

>> No.16631043

>>16631005
Post fleet?
Also what LBAS comp are you using?

>> No.16631044

>>16631037
Guy specified end game ships/equips and those listed are the best.

>> No.16631045

>>16631021
Oh and
-if you don't have Iowa put Kirishima in flagship spot and Roma in 2nd spot
-in that case stuff the 46cm guns however you like if you don't have enough 16in

>> No.16631046

>>16631037
Well, his optimal setup is 16inch+GFCS.

>> No.16631048

>>16631044
If it was truly endgame, he'd swap Kaga for Sara.

>> No.16631052

this event was pretty simple, but that just made it more apparent to me how stupid the game actually is. everything is just layer on layer of dice rolls with barely anything you can do to influence them. just getting to the boss meant surviving 3 bombing phases and up to 12 shelling attacks from wo, and failing at any step means going home. of course your one way of mitigating damage has a random chance of activating and then a random chance of actually doing anything. then you get to the boss and you hope your land base randomly does enough damage, hope you don't randomly take too much damage from the boss air strike, hope you randomly get a good engagement, hope your ships randomly attack the right enemies, hope your night battle equips randomly activate, hope your cut ins randomly trigger, hope they randomly hit the boss, and hope they randomly do enough damage to sink her. then you have to hope you get the random drop you want.

in other games you can think "if only I was faster, or more accurate, or used a better strategy," but here all you can do is get mad at the game. people with worse fleets than me cleared with less trouble while people with better fleets are still struggling. some people got hitomi on their first run while others won't get her even after spending all of their resources. I didn't save that hibiki teaching statistics image, but basically some people will always be on the red side of the line. a game that randomly sorts people into the loser camp with no way of getting out is just plain stupid.

>> No.16631057

>>16631048
I wouldn't say that. Saratoga's 3 biggest slots are all smaller than Kaga's, and Kaga's smallest slot is good enough.

If anything, Akagi is probably better than Saratoga here.

>> No.16631062

>>16631048
I don't believe so, Kaga is still very useful during event.

>> No.16631065

>>16631062
Not for 5-5., which is exactly what was asked.

>> No.16631069

>>16631065
>>16631057

>> No.16631075

>>16630964
I want another classic single fleet final map like that again, no combined fleet with LBAS shit and some debuff or gimmick nobody is sure what it actually does.

>> No.16631081

>>16631075
I don't mind combined fleet but I do mind all this debuffing bullshit.

Besides they can just pull the debuffing bullshit for single fleet maps as well.

>> No.16631088

>>16631057
>>16631069
>2 planes less
>for 5-5
Stop the fucking presses. You are telling me higher HP, armor, firepower, AA, huge 1st slot suddenly doesn't matter because of 2 less planes?

>> No.16631094

>>16631062
I hate Kaga so much that I forget when was the last time I sortied her during events.

>> No.16631097

>>16631075
There was no debuff then. Granted double BB Hime wasn't completely full of shit like more recent things.

>> No.16631108

>>16631088
>2

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>>16631043
nah i already gave up. ppl said that my fleet isn't feasible to finish the map on easy mode. Lacked too many equipments and levels for last dance. In fact they are quite surprised that i even got to last dance. But if your are interested here is my fleet.

LBAS:consist of Type 52 and Reppuu Kai

P.S This is my first event and started playing this game 3 weeks ago. This is my 5th day tackling this event and also my resources are dwindling. Got I-13 though so maybe i'll stop or just tackle it before maintenance again.

>> No.16631111

>>16631108
The non-existent Tsu isn't going to eat your planes, Sara is better, Akagi if you don't have Sara.

>> No.16631113

>>16631110
>This is my first event and started playing this game 3 weeks ago
>already has Reppuu Kai
Wut

>> No.16631122

>>16631088
Where the fuck are you getting 2 planes from?

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16631123

Can I please get some help getting a team together for E3?
I don't know if this would be good enough for Hard/Medium, or even how to battle with all-sub teams.
Do you just use Echelon for all nodes?

>> No.16631129

>>16631123
You're really gonna need to remodel them at the very least to feasibly do E-3 in hard.

>> No.16631130

Sparkling is a meme.

>> No.16631131

If I change the difficulty of E3, will my disassembled Sauin disappear?

>> No.16631133

>>16631113
sorry it's ryuusei Kai always get confused with those two names. i dont have reppuu kai rather i have a shiden kai

>> No.16631135

>>16631005
>he

>> No.16631136

>>16631131
Yes

>> No.16631140

>>16630735
+3 from ringing is just sad, I'm sorry for you.

>> No.16631141

>>16631110
>double attack + sonar
Dude what. Ayanami/Yukikaze with 2 torps + sonar is better. And where's your Ooi?

You might not have Abukuma kai 2 but with Jintsuu use 2 guns + plane or 2 guns + sonar. Put the searchlight on Maya. The plane is useless on her.

>> No.16631143

>>16631130
Supports.

>> No.16631146

>>16631110
do you have hiyo? she should be better than rj. what about shigure or yukikaze? either one is probably better than kongo. your biggest problem is probably that you don't have land bombers to kill carrier princess for you. maybe you can try to get the quest ones in a hurry. either that or just hope that boss support does enough damage and you get lucky snipes in night battle.

>> No.16631147

>>16631135
He fell for the Tsu = CR7 meme I suppose.

>> No.16631149

/jp/ send me all your clones that you hate having.
I'll take them all

>> No.16631151

>>16631143
Did 0 damage this run.

>> No.16631152

>>16631110
Use Hiyou + Jun'you as your CVLs.

>> No.16631156

>>16631151
Then go without supports?

>> No.16631161

>>16631141
Ayanami is level 39
i dont have Yukikaze
i don have Ooi
I dont have Abukuma

>> No.16631165

>>16631161
Sounds like you have Shigure. Swap Akatsuki out for her. Then swap her with Kitakami.

>> No.16631168

>>16631152
>>16631146
i dont have hiyou or junyou rather they didnt drop since i ever played this game. It would be either Ryuujou Chitose and Chiyoda as always.
>>16631146
see>>16631161

>> No.16631170

>>16631165
my shigure is level 42 though. What set-up will you recommend? dual gun sonars?

>> No.16631172

>>16631168
Use Chitose then.

>> No.16631175

>>16631170
>42
Forget it. Stick with your current setup then.

>> No.16631181

>>16631172
Chitose is still an AV level 12

>> No.16631182

>>16631181
Welp. Just keep trying and hope you strike gold, then.

Or you can grind Shigure to 60 at 1-5. Shouldn't be too slow.

>> No.16631186

>>16631006
Anyone? Will that shiny Saiun gone forever?

>> No.16631187

>>16631186
probably gone forever

>> No.16631188

>>16631186
Top 5 ranking reward later this year

>> No.16631190

>>16631186
The plane is never coming back just like Nonaka is never coming back, neither a 3rd Murata.

>> No.16631193

>>16631190
>3rd Murata
Wut.

>> No.16631194

>>16631186
The saiun is hot shit, don't worry about it.

This event probably had the worst rewards in the history of Kancolle so just take it easy and go all Easy difficulty.

>> No.16631196

>>16631190
Nonaka yes, but the Murata comparison is wrong here. Murata did come back after the summer 2015 event.

>>16631194
No one cares about Kancolle though.

>> No.16631197

>>16631194
Fall 2015 had quite literally no rewards.

>> No.16631205

>>16631110
>that airpower
Oh dear.

What the other anon said, use Junyou and Hiyou if you have them (since kuso mode doesn't slow-bully). Basically it's either those two or the ChiChis, RJ isn't really suitable for this map.

You'll need at least 400+ airpower for this shit, even on kuso.
In short there's not much room to put bombers on your CVLs. At most you can afford the m62s if you want your CVLs to do something other than help you get AS, but even that's kind of iffy when you reach LD.

Also use the beaver if you have her, the twins have high armour so you'll be mostly relying on yasen DAs/TCIs here.
If you have Ooi feel free to deploy both her and KTKM.

Anyways good luck. Suijou accuracy is shit even with fit guns so don't be surprised if the CV himes keep cockblocking you from sniping the flagship during yasen.
Just keep trying or switch to FCF if the shit accuracy's pissing you off too much. The sub node can troll you, but you have a much better chance at the boss node.

>> No.16631206 [DELETED] 

>>16630422

No soy italiano pero tambien estoy rogando que hagan un buen trabajo con Zara. Jiji ya hizo un buen trabajo con el seasonal asi que hay esperanza.

>> No.16631207

>>16631110
Use Reppuu mule setup on your CVLs?

>>16631205
He doesn't have a lot of the shit we've suggested.

>> No.16631209

>>16631197
>literally
Wrong in all senses of the word.

>> No.16631210 [DELETED] 

>>16631206
>español
>en mi yeipi
Por favor, no.

>> No.16631217
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Love doesn't disappoint. Proud of my wife.

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>>16631210
Hay mas spics de lo que piensas, racista hijo de puta.

>> No.16631222

>>16631217
>marrying shitgure
Disgusting.

>> No.16631223

>>16631217
The love meme only works if she's not strong, otherwise it just looks like a regular statsfaggot claiming love.

>> No.16631225

I wish not debuffing a boss would give better rewards.

>> No.16631230 [DELETED] 

>>16631220
Please do not bring to his attention that we exist in this thread, I don't want us to be lumped with SEA Monkeys.

>> No.16631232

>>16631230
Now what's wrong with being from SEA?

>> No.16631234

>>16630942
CLTs couldn't even get to fight her.

>> No.16631236

>>16631232
Do I really need to remind you what Indo players did for a measly 2000 DMM points?

>> No.16631237

>>16631222
Stay mad fag.

>> No.16631238 [DELETED] 

>>16631230
>Negando la realidad
Esto no es /int/ o /pol/, me importa una mierda.

>> No.16631239

>>16631236
>SEA consists only of Indonesia
Okay m8

>> No.16631241

>>16631236
>what Indo players did for a measly 2000 DMM points
What did they do, senpai?

>> No.16631242 [DELETED] 

>>16631239
Dragonjew is also an SEAMonkey.

>> No.16631251

>>16631242
So Indonesia and Philippines.

>> No.16631252

>>16631217
but did she actually kill it

>> No.16631277
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>>16631252
Of course she did.

>> No.16631287

>>16631277
Did you use yasen mule Ooyodo? I rarely see anybody do that anymore.

>> No.16631309

>>16631287
>I rarely see anybody do that anymore.
Because everyone is a statfag at heart and already moved to abukuso.

>> No.16631310

>>16631309
Tbh Jintsuu was the better CL for this map.

>> No.16631311

>>16631207
Now that I'm caught up, yeah you're right. Fuck.
In that case anon's gonna have a harder time.

Maybe we can help figure something out with a ship list, but I'm not too confident.

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>>16631287
>>16631310
Only the yasen plane.
She's there mostly for love reason.

>> No.16631318

>>16631310
Are you sure?
Shouldn't opening torps help pick off enemies since the bombing phase isn't exactly reliable when running suijou?

>> No.16631319

>>16631312
>not even TCI

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>>16631187
>>16631188
>>16631190
>>16631194
After I decided to give a last shot before I quit to easy, holy shit, Abukuma finally deliver.

Now I miss Asakaze and Hitomi, how much should I stock while waiting for their return?

>> No.16631330

>>16631325
Do a few cheeky farming runs for Hitomi. I doubt she'll return so soon, and even when she returns I don't think it'll be any easier to get her.

>> No.16631331

>>16631075
Yeah. Everything with combined fleet is fucking ez modo to me.
Look at how kusofags cried at last event single fleet map makes me want to see a bloody last map with single fleet again

>> No.16631336

>>16631110
Levels don't matter

>> No.16631340

>>16631110
Thats a pretty good fleet for 3 weeks in. I'm impressed.

>> No.16631343

>>16631331
The worst we'll get is another autumn 2015.

>> No.16631348

>>16631331
Which one, Autumn 2016 E4?
That one's like 6-5 except you can't use LBAS

>> No.16631351

>>16631330
I accept that possibility since I used to farm for Unryuu (200 runs), Prinz (80 runs) and Amagi(100runs) outside the event they appeared.

But I also got Harukaze (0.991% drop rate) thrice from this event. Shit luck indeed.

>> No.16631355

>>16631325
You've already displayed yourself a shame when you can't beat such an easy mode map like E-3.

>> No.16631357

http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html?id=-KdtVDSW0nRILOmDm5Xz

r8

>> No.16631362

>>16631325
Good job you made the right choice, Im proud of you anon.

>> No.16631369

>>16631331
>Everything with combined fleet is fucking ez modo to me.
says that one with less than 9 memedals

>> No.16631375

>>16631369
Everything is ez modo since fall 2014

>> No.16631378

>>16631355
But he just did.

>> No.16631380

>>16631375
arpeggio was hardest event

>> No.16631389
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welp this is the best i can do guys....i think i'll just take a break and do something productive. It's been fun while it lasted although that is because my resources are on hundreds now and 0 repair bucket.

>> No.16631396

>>16631389
Grind Shigure to 60

>> No.16631398

>>16631389
What is with the Rus? I don't see Rus in my last dance.

>> No.16631399

>>16631357
TCI/10
Seriously, you just really need 2-3 clutch at boss. It's purely RNG at work there.

>> No.16631408

>>16631398
He's doing kuso mode

>> No.16631409

>>16631398
He's on kuso, m8.
Dude's just starting out and this is his first event, there's no way he could deal with medium/hard mode.

>> No.16631411

>>16631399
I know that. That's why I gave Ooi DA.

>> No.16631414

>>16631408
>>16631409
>all those kai ni
Just started?

>> No.16631415

should i change 機動部隊 for last dance in E3?
i dun have good BB gun,only got 10+ Reppu

>> No.16631416

https://www.reddit.com/r/kancolle/comments/5vx7sc/misc_nachis_not_coming_back/

One more for the kuso compilation. He actually wrote a long sob story about it, too.

>> No.16631419

>>16631415
No.

>> No.16631421

>>16631415
Reppuu

>> No.16631423

>>16631414
Three weeks ago. He actually did well to come this far.

>> No.16631425

Looking back on how I spend my resources, it's around total 110k fuel, 80k ammo, 60k steel, 50k bauxite and 450 buckets to clear everything in hard and get Fujinami (shame that I missed Hitomi).

If I want to get Hitomi, I should prepared around 220k fuel, 160k ammo, 120k steel, 100k bauxite, 900 buckets. Any opinion from those who runs around 80-100 runs for Hitomi? Did I set the target resources too high?

>> No.16631427

>>16631416

>Heart stopped when I first saw that title, thinking it meant her VA wasn't coming back from her break because she passed away
>It was just some shitter

>> No.16631437

>>16631389
Did you do the debuffing quest?

>> No.16631439

>>16631423
Pretty much.
His fleet is a surprisingly good shape for a 3-week-old account, too bad it's missing quite a few of the more crucial non-event ships so it's hard for him to run events.

I'd say it's better for him to expand his roster and at least get most of the mainstays first before tackling events.

>> No.16631445

>>16631437
yes i already did that also i changed kongou with mikuma since mikuma is 20 levels higher than kongou and equipped her with Prototype Seiran that i got from I-401

>> No.16631448

>>16631445
Right then. Did you replace Fusou with Kongou in the main fleet?

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>>16631425
No point having infinite resources if she doesn't want to drop. You will run out of time first.

>> No.16631452

>>16631330
I doubt he would force us to do the scrapping quest again (to farm Hitomi).

>> No.16631455

>>16631451
I understand, but how much do I need to go that far?

>> No.16631456

>>16631416
I accidentally sunk KTKM during my newfag days, accepted kuso TTK status, swore not to get anyone sunk again and that's about it.
Writing a fucking fanfic over it is just autism.

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>>16631448
No i didn't should i replace fusou with Kongou? The reason i didn't include Kongou is because she always get Taiha'd by Tsu Class which pretty much forced me to retreat on node L

Also my current ships

>> No.16631460

>>16631409
everyone made fun of me for doing easy on my first event

>> No.16631468

>>16631459
>No i didn't should i replace fusou with Kongou?
Yes.

Also replace Akatsuki with Shimakaze.

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>>16631425
>>16631455
No amount of stockpiling can save you from the horrible drop-only mechanic.

>> No.16631473

>>16631460
Everybody had their newfag days, nothing wrong with going kuso even if it's hard to admit you do so in these threads.

I don't care much about the memedals anyways.

>> No.16631475

>>16631469
In ideal situation, I would should consistently S rank in easy, even if it's has a lower rate than A rank in hard. Maybe next time anon.

>> No.16631487

>>16631468
right...i'll try it this evening when i have enough fuel to do 4 sorties and try again.

>> No.16631491

I have a confession to make. Hitomi dropped for me during chipping a few days ago and reading posts about people farming for her bring me a weird sense of pleasure. Thanks, and have a good night.

>> No.16631494

>>16631491
I thought that's how it was for everyone.

>> No.16631496

>>16631487
Do you think you can grind Shigure to level 60 if you solo 1-5?

>> No.16631497

>>16631491
You know what the karma is? It will hit you hard one day.

>> No.16631499

>>16631497
Actually I think this is the first time it's happened, I'm usually on the other side, I think this was my reward.

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>>16631416
>actually quoting some fucking attention whore shitter like she's some fucking sage
>to try and comfort some fucking top tier kuso
Jesus christ, how absolutely disgusting.

>> No.16631505

>>16631496
i dunno anon. Currently lacking in resources although since the event will finish on tuesday (or so they said) I'll try leveling her.

>> No.16631512

What is the best way to level up a sub to Kai, preferably before the end of the event?

>> No.16631516

>>16631505
Wait what's your admiral level?
1-5 is best if your level is under 80, though after you reach 80 bringing 1 OASW-capable ship (Isuzu Kai Ni is the easiest to achieve) will make it viable again.

If you want to keep your admiral level down, retreat before you get to the boss node. (in short you're only doing the first 3 nodes)

>> No.16631517

>>16631512

E3, sortie to the first node, get perfect S rank automatically, end sortie, repeat forever.

>> No.16631520

>>16631416
Were there even any /jp/ losses for this event? I haven't paid attention to the thread since 3 days into the event.

>> No.16631522

>>16631505
Solo grind at 1-5 isn't too expensive I think. You need around 177 S ranks as flagship to get from 42 to 60 so that's 531 fuel and 708 ammo.

>> No.16631523

>>16631473
I got worse since I started right before the first memedal event. Now I am stuck at the old server with having not a complete sets of memedal. I'll still try challenging hard everytime I can tho.

>> No.16631525

>>16631522
1-5-A I mean

>> No.16631529
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help me setup second fleet for E3 last run pls

>> No.16631531

>>16631529
Post all your ships.

>> No.16631532

>>16631529
Is this the best you have? Where is Ooi, ABKM?

>> No.16631535

>>16631516
Currently sitting at HQ 76 since i finished 1-5 2 times (failed 5 times bloated my hq exp) doing world 2 missions (1k HQ pts per successful S Run) and 2-5 once (with 2CA and 4FBB) everything else is from event.

>> No.16631539

>>16631520
I think yesterday someone mentioned that he accidentally used Matsukaze as modernisation fodder in a stupor.

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>>16631529
Shigure and Yukikaze already use in E2

>> No.16631548

>>16631535
Yeah, 177 solo sorties to 1-5-A should be manageable for you. You'll reach HQ 77 or 78 but that's it.

>> No.16631549

>>16631529
Absolute garbage without good positioning. How about you learn how to play first, dumbass?

>> No.16631552

>>16631425
I spent 140k/100k/70k/40k and 650 buckets total and got everyone, 70 E-3 hard runs for Hitomi, 40 E-2 easy for Fujinami, 60 E-1 runs for nothing.
You can spend less on E-3 if you go with the cheapest fleet optimised for A ranks, I burned 1.5k fuel/run.

>> No.16631567

>>16631549
then teach me :^)

>> No.16631574

>>16631552
>>16631469
Thanks, now I know where my stockpiling for the next event. Still, it's quite hard to manage that with Top 500 ranking.

>> No.16631595

>>16631552
140k fuel on Hitomi alone, still haven't got her. It's really frustrating when an S-rank at the boss node yields the likes of Myoukou, while L node gives duckies & tenga boilers.

Really frustrating. I should've farmed on easy for guaranteed s-ranks on the cheap before clearing on hard.

>> No.16631604

>>16631595
Can't be helped anon, that scrapping quest is quite annoying. Really, you need to find T97 for every 3S 1A rank.

>> No.16631635

>>16631595

The official stats to get her is 3%, while most of the new girls has the drop rate around 1%, by theory you should be able to get her easily.

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>>16631595
Sortie 150 something and I no longer feel any emotion. I have accepted the fact that she won't be showing up this event and am merely going through to motions of doing one sortie per hour to the tune of Panzerlied, savouring every retreat whenever someone taihas on a preboss node. I now know what inner peace feels like.

>> No.16631642

>>16631635
>new girls
>drop rate around 1%
Not anymore m8.

>> No.16631650
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16631650

Rate my resources.

Top: Fuel/steel/bauxite (ammo has been stuck at 6 digits throughout the event)
Bottom: Buckets

Rough arrow benchmarks:
Event start
E2 clear
E3 start
E3 clear
Hitomi get
Fujinami get

>> No.16631661

>>16631642

Even less reason to not get any new girls then.

>> No.16631670

>>16631661
The drop rates for their debut events have increased. Why would you not get them?

>> No.16631679

>>16631670


I got her from my 8th farming run.

You should go and ask those ttk who are falling in despair because they didn't find her.

>> No.16631688

>>16631604
Yes. In hindsight, it might have been cheaper in the long run to obtain T97's instead of retreats on hard because your full-hp FBB got one-shotted at the air-raid node in spite of AS & an AA-optimized Maya cut-in, not to mention the likelihood of an A- instead of an S-rank.

I wish, for events, they'd just provide a pool of droppable ships that you can eventually empty out with enough runs, instead of pure RNG.

Or at least the option to farm on lesser difficulties after clearing the map. But noooo, too much effort on the devs' part.

>>16631638
I, too, have known this feeling. Yet I can't help but feel my pulse quicken when some rare ship drops from node L and I make it through the air raid node unscathed.

Afterwards the lesbians somehow flub an easy S-rank & I get three Ise's in a row afterwards.

>> No.16631689

>>16631679
Oops. I misread your last post. 5-4 ranking distracted me. Disregard >>16631670

>> No.16631692

just finished E3
is hitomi really hard to get?
i only left 50k resources

>> No.16631703

>>16631688
They need some more artificial difficulty somewhere.

>> No.16631711

>>16631688
No way am I going to waste my devmats like that.

>> No.16631713

Haha all these losers who didn't get Hitomi while clearing

>> No.16631720

>>16631713
I've only ever gotten 3 new ships (Tanikaze, Asashimo, Arashi) while clearing. All my other event-only loot was either from farming or from a later event.

>> No.16631730

>>16631635
>official stats
Source? Tanaka said this?

>> No.16631756

>>16631713
I farmed easy for 4 days and got nothing

decided to clear and dropped from a random A rank

>> No.16631760

>>16631730
afaik, they don't give official stats, but some viewers can automatically send drop statistics to sites such as poi-statistics, which gives us an estimate which grows more accurate as time goes by.

>> No.16631766

>>16631692
LUCK, anon.
>>16631760
That's... not official. It could be underrepresented or overrepresented with strong RNG dice. The official one should only be the one that devs stated.

>> No.16631768

>>16631766
Where do the devs ever state "official" drop rates?

>> No.16631772

>>16631768
Not even once, but I meant, if you want to say it's official, it should come from the devs only.

>> No.16631777

>>16631713
I don't know why people desperately want another Yoshinori slut. They are literally ducks in swimsuits, the faggot is overrated. Fujinami is even worse, not only is she the worst gumo, but doesn't even bring nothing special to the table.

>> No.16631783

>>16631777
Sense of completion, maybe.

>> No.16631794

>>16631777
for the collection, dumbass

>> No.16631798

>>16631777
Because I actually like those sluts.

I would farm for dupe Hitomi and Iyo at the soonest opportunity.

>> No.16631804

>>16631777
>ducks in swimsuits
What? And why are you so angry?

>> No.16631824

>>16631777

I really hate the swimsuit design, face was ok, but overall I want them because 3 slotted-subs.

>> No.16631848
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http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?pid=215911642

madman

>> No.16631857

Any receipe for Zero model 21 and 52?

>> No.16631858

Do Hitomi and Iyo get to deal extra damage to the E3 boss?

>> No.16631861

>>16631857
10/20/10/30(or 31)

>> No.16631863
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The event is so easy I retreated only once all event long. Tanaka step your game up.
>>16631777
>Fujinami is even worse, not only is she the worst gumo, but doesn't even bring nothing special to the table.
This faggot. I wish Fuji/Hitomi were the rewards instead of Matsu/Iyo.

>> No.16631864

>>16631861
Which ship anon?

>> No.16631865

>>16631864
zuizui

>> No.16631872

>>16631865
OK, thanks. At first I planned to get them by leveling, but it turned out to be a bad idea.

>> No.16631879

>>16631692
I got her with 30k.
Now I have nothing left to try to farm a 2nd Akashi and fat thighs sub from E-1.

>> No.16631884

What's with sparkling ship before crafting meme that I heard lately? Is it a thing or just a meme?

>> No.16631888

>>16631884
sparkling always is good

>> No.16631891

>>16631884
First I've heard of it. Sounds like hogwash.

>> No.16631894

>>16631884
There's nothing in this game that isn't a meme.

>> No.16631913

>>16631766
>That's... not official
How new are you?

>> No.16631915

>>16631692
It is the shitty drop rate.
I made it to the boss node 150times with 173sorties
15S rank
131A rank
I am probably the most unlucky person right now on /jp/.

>> No.16631918

>>16631884
>he doesn't sparkle his akashi for best chance on upgrading equips

>> No.16631922

>>16631918
My Akashi is 100 morale from PvP and her success rates haven't increased with her morale.

>> No.16631924

>>16631915
Some faggot told me that since this is an easy event, getting 50+ runs per day shouldn't be a problem, and you still got time. So just keep going at it for as much sanity and resources as you have.

>> No.16631926

>>16631915
Well if you're speaking strictly in terms of drop rates, I'm almost at 250 S ranks on E-1 hard sub hime without a single maruyu/yuu/nimu/shioi.

>> No.16631932

>>16631924
>getting 50+ runs per day shouldn't be a problem
Only NEET can do this.

>> No.16631934

>>16631926
Better get her since Kamikaze event.

>> No.16631936

>>16631922

Your Akashi probably thinks about dicks every time she is doing an upgrade.

>> No.16631938

>>16631932
Maybe if you work weekends as well.

>>16631936
So in the end, sparkling doesn't increase upgrading success rates.

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Probably not going to get her if she still doesnt drop after this

>> No.16631961

>>16631954
Bless you anon! Let your luck balance with my bad fortune.

>> No.16631962

>>16631915
What's your secret for not getting taiha'd on the Wo nodes 150 times out of 173?

>> No.16631963

>>16631954
bless you+1

>> No.16631965

>>16631926
Would the U, Shioi or Nimu be you first or dupes? For 280 sorties with 180 S ranks I managed to get 1 of the rarer subs (my first), but other rare DDs, Imuyas and Ikus keep dropping left and right, until the drops just stop for 3-5 sorties and then start from the Ayanami, Mutsuki, Fubuki, Sendais and Tenryuus.

>> No.16631973

>>16631926
i must be really luck to get all the ss within 100 runs

>> No.16631974

>>16631965
I'm attempting for dupes.

>> No.16631977
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>>16631961
>>16631963
Guess I only have like 4hours to go until Monday. 200runs would probably be my limit.

>>16631962
There is no secret, you just FCF if you get hit The enemies have shit accuracy as seen here >>16631954

>> No.16631983

>>16631977
Fuck. That's depressing.

>> No.16631989

>>16631977
>FCF
Oh, okay. So you sacrificed the AP shell on Bismarck?

>> No.16631990

>>16631954
i wish i could do that :(
Currently farming Shigure to 60 and barely scraping by. Now im waiting for Sendai Kai Ni to return from Exped 38 so i can have another 40 sorties to level her up to 50.

Grinding is a pain

>> No.16631993

>>16631989
You just rotate the BB. Whoever that has <49 morale take the flagship spot.

>> No.16631997

>>16631993
I mean, so you replace the AP shell on whichever BB occupies flagship spot with FCF?

>> No.16632000

>>16631997
Yeah, pretty much.
It is not like the AP shell is a big deal.

>> No.16632012

>>16632000
Okay, thanks. Just a couple more questions:
Are your CVL's pure fighter mules, and is Maya using full AA setup?

Thanks again.

>> No.16632014

does reaching the end of e-1 count for weekly 1?

>> No.16632017

>>16632014
No, it's not a boss.

>> No.16632023

>>16632017
fuck I guess I'll just spam 1-1 with my new subs then.

>> No.16632036

>>16632012
Yeah. Maya carries the sendai plane. Bofor goes to the extra slot.
Just send both airbase to boss.
FCF when taiha at L or M. Don't bother with supports unless you have the time. It is not like support significantly increases S rank odds.

>> No.16632075

Are there people using the Yuubari/Gakada releases of KCV? They haven't been updated in a while, and I'm wondering if everyone's moved on to other viewers

>> No.16632101

>>16632075

I am using Yuubari but the mapHP is broken.

>> No.16632117

How many T21(Skilled) MAX and T52(skilled) MAX do I need?

Now I have 1x Iwamoto, 2x Reppuu Kai, 1x Reppuu601, 1x Re2005, and 10x Reppuu.

>> No.16632133

>>16632117
Enough to fill 3 land bases.

>> No.16632137

>>16632133
12 for each Type?

>> No.16632216

>>16631416
>sortie a taiha'd ship
>managed to survive to yasen
>click yasen
>ship sinks

I'd be sympathetic to newbies who accidentally sink their ship because of a misclick or because they genuinely don't know about the mechanics involved.

But that?
Dude had a second chance and he fucked up. Only thing that could be more kuso is if they sink ships deliberately.

>> No.16632226

>>16632075
Gook KCV here, though I can't read it at all.

>> No.16632255

>>16632075
Been using gook since I heard of it. Can't read gookrunes but you get used to it.

>>16632137
Seems like it.

>> No.16632261

>>16632255
Why not take the moon version if you can't read gook anyway?

>> No.16632266

>>16632075
I wonder if there's a chink fork of KCV like EO? I've only seen them talk about the original Jap version.

>> No.16632270

>>16632266

I can understand chink and would prefer anything in chink but I will never trust a program that has been touched by chinks.

>> No.16632277

>>16632261
I switched over from the moon version because I didn't think of just porting the BattleInfo plugin over. But now the gook BattleInfo plugin isn't fully functional with the other KCV builds anyway (the whole KCV won't turn red if a ship gets taiha during a sortie).

For other KCV builds there's an alternative fork of BattleInfo that's incompatible with the gook one, so those not using the gook fork can use that.

>>16632266
I've never seen a chink fork. Many chinks seem to favour EO.

>> No.16632308

>>16632270
Did you try their fleet builder?

>> No.16632320

>>16632308

You mean the website? Websites are ok.

>> No.16632362

>>16632075
I used to use gakada's fork but have since moved onto Poi.
It kinda looks the same but has more features and plugins.
One thing I kinda miss is that there is no handy way to view your fleet which makes it easy to screencap to post here (unless you use the compositions plugin), but overall I don't regret the change.

>> No.16632403

>>16632362

Poi collects your stats passively.

>> No.16632431

>>16632403
wat? bot?

>> No.16632438

Anons who started around the Winter 2016 event, how many meme medals do you have? How abnormal is it to be stuck at 0?

>> No.16632446
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>>16632431
There is an optional plugin you can use to report your sortie info like droprates and such to the kcwiki, as well as to the poi database.
I guess it's useful, but I don't really care.

>> No.16632452

>>16632438
I have 5, but I'm kind of taking it seriously very late.

>> No.16632519

>Running out of resources
>Still no Hitomi
Fucking endless Kongou sisters, Mutsu/Nagato and a bunch of Gumos

>> No.16632540

>>16631954
What was your equipment on the escort fleet setup? AA, DA or TCI?

>> No.16632559
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>>16632519
Don't forget Hyuugas and Ises too.

>> No.16632576

>>16632559
Goddamn, they don't even have good equipment to pilfer either

>> No.16632582

I just complete the TP guage of E3 Normal.
Should I bother doing the debuff or should I just try take out the boss?

>> No.16632637
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv291702958

Yuugumo fleet almost had it

>> No.16632716

>>16632438
0 memedals
I honestly thought this event would be the first one, but instead I got served a cold hard dose of reality, that if I don't have super upgraded gear or the unique rewards of all past events, I might as well forget about ever doing hard.

>> No.16632732

>>16632582
The important one is the second debuff.

>> No.16632775

>>16632438
I have only one, and I started in September 2013

>> No.16632786

>>16632637
>Asashimo in escort
>not Okinami

>> No.16632790

>>16632582
The non-quest debuff itself isn't hard to do. LBAS bombers do 80% of the job, so it doesn't hurt to do it.

>> No.16632793

>>16632637
Kagerous did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YTIGbdhPs

>> No.16632796

There need to be more Hatsukaze doujin.

>> No.16632817

>>16632790
And subs choke 80% of the time when CA hime has 50 health, so it may be wiser to just clear the map with only the JJ debuff, wich is infinitely easier to do. Considering less than 2 days left.

>> No.16632828

>>16632817
Stop using shit equipment. My subs S ranked both TP gauge runs and the debuff run 3 times in a row.

>> No.16632837

>>16632828
Unfortunately, there is no way to get non shit equipment for subs when Taigei and Yuu don't exist.

>> No.16632846

>>16632837
I largely meant support. Hotels, cranes, FuMO Kasumi,

>> No.16632847

>>16632837
Eh, I quints should be enough though? Not him, but the TCIs did the job ok for me

>> No.16632863

>>16632846
But i did end up with only yellow CA hime at night battle a few time, and the subs choked like no tomorrow after the first TCI for ~100 dmg.

>> No.16632882

I want to give up.

>> No.16632891

>>16632882
Don't. You still have time (and resources, i hope).

>> No.16632898

>>16632891
I have enough resources, but shitty equipment and ships.

>> No.16632919
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Holy shit
I know who I'm luckmodding next.

>> No.16632929

How long until the event ends?
33 hours?

>> No.16632932

>>16632919
You didn't consider luckmodding KTKM-sama before?

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>>16632817
Even potato nip did it, literally no excuse.

>> No.16632939

>>16632932
I have almost 40 ships married and Kitakami/Ooi/Kiso aren't even above 95, I use them very rarely. Don't usually like glass cannons, if I can conceivably swap them out for heavy cruisers I usually do.

>> No.16632944

>>16632929
10 hours.

>> No.16632949

>>16632939
>>16632932
jesus I need to sleep

I meant to say I rather focus on luckmodding ships I use more often, like elite DDs, CAs and Abukuma.

>> No.16632951

>>16632938
Are you comparing sub yasen power to other ships, especially DDs and a CLT?

>> No.16632960

>>16632951
It's base Ooi and everybody is Fast+ to avoid Re, so the setup is even more fucked compared to subs who are at full power with little resistance.

>> No.16632970

>>16632944
Only if you live in Japan.

>> No.16633001

>>16632960
You don't need Fast+ to avoid B. And even base Ooi as a CL still has more yasen power.

>> No.16633085

>>16632837
What does Taigei provide for subs?

>> No.16633098

>>16633085
The two torp quests.

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>>16633085
Supplies, smiles and a terrible rout in which she always get taiha'd.

>> No.16633121

>>16633102
I'm not sure why but the way Ichiso draws his girls makes me want to punch them in the face

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>> No.16633135

>>16633123
Glad I managed to finally get her while going for Hitomi.

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>>16633135
Glad you got meat.

>> No.16633156

>>16633123
Got her minutes ago on my last E3 run. Even only playing IdleColle, I'm happy with the drops I get during events, because there are always ships I didn't get in the previous events that are there.

I wish the best for everyone still grinding/clearing.

>> No.16633162

>>16633144
I'm glad that artist favors her since not only one who seems to give a crap about her, the style works for her well, unlike the others.

>> No.16633170

How do I craft Pola?

>> No.16633178

>>16633170

Quality wines.

>> No.16633195

>>16633170
But Zara is cuter and more modest.

>> No.16633200

>>16633195
How do I get a Zara?

>> No.16633224

I'm not having any luck with Yuus.
Is that crap from a previous event still in effect (the more Yuus you have, the less the drop rate is)?

>> No.16633231

>>16633162
I like her Water Demon version better.

>> No.16633245

>>16633224
Here (Yuu) go

>> No.16633256

>>16633231
Same

>> No.16633262

>>16633224
Yuu doesn't like you.

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>> No.16633278

>>16633262
But she came to me three times during Spring 2016.

>> No.16633319

Ok. I think the next mechanic is preemptive yasen strike.

It can be triggered by having certain yasen equipment + certain LoS threshold.

>> No.16633325

>>16633224
I'm almost 300 sorties in and the only Yuu i got was on my 126-th one. My first and only Nimu came somewhere around 40-60 and the Shioi around 240-260. Guess Tanaka didn't want people to use subs to clear E-3 TP.

>> No.16633350

Is a Saiun considered/mandatory for E-3 LD?

>> No.16633353

>>16633350
No

>> No.16633371

>>16633325
Me too. I've been farming E-1 for a week and a half and nothing but one Yuu (in first 30 sorties).

>> No.16633439

>>16633350
Do you think you can win with a head-on instead of a red T?
I'd say there are better things to put on your CVs. Saiun is ok for chipping runs, but even there its efficiency is debatable.

>> No.16633448

>>16633350
No. Big guns and big torpedoes are, sonars are optional. Saiun is a mere gadget.

>> No.16633458

>>16633439
But if you bring two CVLs with all but the smallest slot (for the Saiun) filled with green, you consistently gain AS through all but the preboss node, a keep AS on boss thanks to LBAS.
Ok, yeah, benefits are questionable.

>> No.16633468

What level do you think Zara's second remodel will be at? 75? 80?

>> No.16633472

>>16633458
What about putting at least 1 Fusou (well, if you're on 丙) with a Seaplane fighter?

>> No.16633476

>>16633468
Nope, you'd have to marry her first.

>> No.16633480

>>16633468
85.

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>> No.16633500

>>16633468
It doesn't matter as she will need a bp.

>>16633472
What for? You can maintain AS thoughout all the necessary nodes with ~450 (or more on higher difficulties) fighter power. Bringing any bombers will just get them killed and gimping Fusou from AP shells won't give you any better air performance.

>> No.16633505

>>16633319
can't wait to use it for the 2-5 quest only for it to shoot the bottom ship every time. I'm pretty sure the next gimmick they actually announced though is land based anti-submarine attacks.

>> No.16633512

>>16633468
Nobody knows what determines required levels. Fat faggot probably runs a script which randomly picks a number between 65 and 99. Nip browser game devs love their heavy usage of RNGs because a fair share of them has no fucking idea how to be consistent and/or make fun game mechanics.

>> No.16633520

>>16633505
I can already see those wonderful 5 flag subs + Tsu nodes on the very first map. Or 3 subs, 1 Tsu, 1 Ass Hime and 1 Sub Hime.

>> No.16633522

Do I need a 4th set of subs? I ranked with only 2 sets last time but that was when I was free 24/7.

>> No.16633523

>>16633350
You actually want some red tea for those Wo nodes.

>> No.16633532

>>16633523
Good point.

>> No.16633544

>>16633522
You only need the subs that the game gives you.

>> No.16633572

>>16633500
For E-3 LD, you need ~496 fighter power for AS.
Well, even with two Reppuu mules CVL, you may or might not get only AP, so I think with a Seaplane fighter on Fusou's 23 slot, they would be helpful.
And yeah, it would prevent her from having DA on day battle, but I think 2 Main Gun + 1 AP shell are more than enough to kill the enemies DDs and CLs, not to mention you got other 3 BBs with DA.

>> No.16633587

>>16633572
Don't you send LBAS to boss? 2/2+1/3 should keep you within AS requirements in pretty much all cases.

>> No.16633595

>>16633505

What land planes in the real world are specialized in ASW? I do know some submarines has AA abilities.

>> No.16633599

>>16633595
Toukai, flying boats

>> No.16633604
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Halp

I got Ooyodo from E-2. Spent the past couple of days leveling her to get the FCF expecting it to make subsequent runs easy.

Nope. Final dance has me getting destroyed by the Pre-boss node double dip. The one time I did get to the boss it was a C-rank.

Kuso mode time?

>> No.16633621

>>16633604
You are not supposed to go north for last dance dude.

>> No.16633625

>>16633544

The game gave me a lot of subs and I have to scrap most of them.

>> No.16633627

>>16633604
>doing the transport fleet meme, or whatever it's called
You could just swap to a CTF and enjoy more consistent sorites, if not a bit costly.

>> No.16633631

>>16633604
>Transport without Kamikazes for LD.
So much wrong.

>> No.16633664

>>16633621

This is a south fleet.

>>16633627

Forgot entirely about that. Screw it. Need to finish this event NOW.

>>16633631

Only have a level 31 Kamikaze and she's expeditioning with Kinu.

>> No.16633759

>That mimofu Akigumo doujin two-page teaser

I need this.

>> No.16633775

>>16632438
I started at the summer 2015 event. I just have 1.

>> No.16633807

>>16632438
Started Spring 2015, have 4.

>> No.16633831

>>16633319
Nah, it'll just be map locking for our equipment.

>> No.16633884
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I'm so tired of this shit.

>> No.16633892

>>16633604
>Final dance
Why exactly do you need this brazillion of daihats?

>> No.16633912

>>16633892

Because I was trying to get the transport gauge down to just above the 25% mark, then a full run like this to get it close before triggering the final dance.

The Toku Daihatsu was left on the ship that was selected to get it to the 25% mark. Now I have 75 points to go and the Final Dance is triggered.

>> No.16633937

Is it worth buying additional bath slots? And construction slots?

>> No.16633940

>>16633587
>2/2+1/3 should keep you within AS

It seems with this LBAS setup, the Land based bombers somehow still retain their chevron, even regained some of the loss rank.
Compared to 1/3+1/3, even though you also would get at least AS on boss node.

>> No.16633943

>>16633912
Makes sense ; I thought this was your actual final dance configuration for a moment. Though the rest of the equipment kinda leaves me puzzled as well...

Did you try with CTF as was told earlier?

>> No.16633946

>>16633937
The former? Sure, it can save you some buckets down the line especially when you first start the game.
The latter? Nope.

>> No.16633950

>>16633937
Yes. No.

>> No.16633960

>>16633937

Bath, yes. Construction, no. I bought it all because it was just bothering my autism.

>> No.16633967

>>16633937
Bath yes, it can speed things up quite a bit when you just want to repair a fleet full of scratch damage.
Construction no, you'll get to a point when all you do is daily construction or LSC, and for LSC the game literally throws flamethrowers at you anyway.

>> No.16633983

>>16633967
>>16633950
>>16633946

So, Tanaka's claim that buying construction slots would increase the chance of great results on LSC was all lies?!

>> No.16633986

>>16633937
Do you value buckets or time? If it's the latter, you might want to buy additional preset slots to save your fleet comps. Otherwise bath sluts.

>> No.16633988

>>16633983

Not lies, but you don't need it.

>> No.16633989
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>>16633943

waiting on expeditions to come back before I change it up to CTF.

Yeah, my configuration is crap. I was trying to follow other examples like this one, but after so much misses I crammed radars all over to get them to hit the damn targets.

>> No.16634005

>>16633943

...and yeah, It *wasn't* supposed to be my final dance configuration, but that Toku Daihatsu accidentally put me over and now I need them all to finish it or end up doing 2 or more successful final dance runs to get there.

>> No.16634024

>>16633983

>increase the chance of great results on LSC

For like, 0.2% extra chance. You're already gambling for free with almost everything else, why also gamble real money for constructions?

>> No.16634029

>>16634005
Why don't you just finish it with a few runs of Kidou?
You're probably going to save time that way.

>> No.16634034

>>16633989
Don't you have better radars? It kinda surprises me since your ships are pretty high-leveled. Also the only thing that's upgraded are the hats, you didn't upgrade your guns?

>> No.16634044

>>16634029
He's going to >>16633989

>> No.16634051

>>16634044
Right.

>> No.16634070

>>16634034

My fleet is over >>16633604

>>16633989 is just an example fleet that I modeled mine after.

I was trying to save screws for other improvements, so that's why it was easy to improve the 1 screw 12.7s.

>> No.16634089

>>16634070
Uh, yeah, I quoted the wrong message actually. I don't see any stars near the guns on >>16633604, won't you at least get a +1 on those 20 cm? It's just one screw with the daily.

Moreover, a +MAX 12.7 cm is better than a stock B-type 12.7cm

>> No.16634133

I need to farm a new set of unremodeled subs because I kai'd my old set beginning of event thinking I'd need 2 sets for the event, bad fucking mistake.

Now I need a new Goya, Hachi, and Iku. Am I better off going to farm E-1 hard or just 1-5

>> No.16634137

>>16632438
I started almost exactly a year ago and I finally have 1. now I can take it easy and do memedium without caring anymore.

>> No.16634139

>>16634133
E-1 is better, but don't expect much.

>> No.16634157

>>16634139
I farmed e-1 first couple of days so I have a sample size of ~100 S ranks, I know what to expect from drops.

Though is post clear fleet comp different than the 4dd 1cl 1cvl lbas full bomber on B? I could take KTKM/ooi that could have oASW and opening torp now.

>> No.16634177

>>16634157
nvm don't spoonfeed me I'm looking at the branching rules and making a comp to fit the needs.

>> No.16634193

>>16634089

bit late for upgrading the 20s this far into the event.

thanks for the info about the B not being good. I'll keep my others waiting for screws at max then.

>> No.16634206

Does 2nd flagship sink this event?

>> No.16634212

>>16634206
never has probably never will.

>> No.16634220

>>16634177
Don't think relying on your sample will fit your expectancy. I got like 15 Imuyas and 7-8 Ikus from aproximately 40 sorties, that happened during my 200-240 sorties, but got very few from before or after said sortie numbers.
Fucking Tanaka, give me a dupe Yuu, i've gone to E-1 for more than 300 runs, dammit.

>> No.16634225
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This is a world where Kamikaze just can't win her admiral's love.

>> No.16634232

>>16634193
Read up on the effect of upgrades, so you know what to upgrade and how much. Especially, having a bunch of +1s is better than having a few +MAX.

Good luck on your clears!

>> No.16634242

>>16634206
No, I've sortied with a red escort flagship twice in this event

>> No.16634249

>>16634212
>>16634242
I see, it's just that it was weird not to see this on the wikia as always.

>> No.16634255

>>16634249
Isn't one of the first comments about combined fleet maps about sinkable escort flagships.

>> No.16634285
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How can I improve my poverty fleet for e3 farming?
They've S ranked the boss node only a few times this week and I still haven't got all the event ship drops.

LBAS setup is
2x ryuusei kai
3x ryuusei
1x tenzan
2x saiun

>> No.16634300

>>16634255
On the mechanics tab? Didn't see anything.

>> No.16634328

>>16634285
DA on torpedo sluts

>> No.16634344

>>16634285
Replace Izusu with ABKM

KTKM at least does more consistent damage with DA rather than TCI

>> No.16634345

>>16634285
>1x tenzan
>2x saiun
Dood, replace those with range 6 fighters, 21 skilled if you have them are excellent. And put 2 fighters in the first base, preferably (or go 1/3 on both). The rest is up to luck.

Also, wouldn't putting a radar on BBs be better than an additional seaplane?

>> No.16634364
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EVE OF THE FINAL NIGHT

10K RESOURCES LEFT

100 FUCKING RUNS

Thank you /jp/ magic

>> No.16634394

>>16634364
Post Clear, anon?

>> No.16634400

>>16634394
>needing 100 runs to clear

>> No.16634413

>>16634394
Yes, I did about 30-40 Easy farming runs with no success so I moved onto clearing it on Hard hoping chipping or LD clear would yield it.

Neither gave anything so I had to farm it on Hard post-clear which was expensive. Either pay 1k fuel without support for 40% chance of getting an A rank, or pay 2-3k with boss support for more consistent A ranking

Originally went with support fleets which reduced my remaining fuel from 30k to 5k, so I spent today sparkling and grinding expeditions in preparation

>> No.16634435

>>16634413
What kind of support uses 2-3k fuel? Do you send Yamatos or something?

>> No.16634442

>>16634435
2-3k in total for both combined fleet and support, not just support.

I use the standard 2DD/2BB/2CV setup

>> No.16634448
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>>16634413
Well, at the very least your hardwork paid off.
As for me, I don't even know how many duck hu-- runs to node J that I should do later.

Anyway, congrats.

>> No.16634455

>>16634448
I spent the last event specifically grinding for dupe ducks, but on that one it took me around 4 days to get 2 of them

>> No.16634456

Abukuma and best girls for E-2 or 3? Which was harder?

>> No.16634459

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/4/47/U-511-Minor_Damage_1.ogg

AH~
That really soothes me soul.

>> No.16634469

>>16634456
For 3.

>> No.16634471

>>16634456
E-3 definitely. Depending on your difficulty and number of historical ships, you can cruise through E-2 with your B team.

>> No.16634496

>>16634344
>Replace Izusu with ABKM
I don't have ABKM unfortunately. Isuzu is my best CL. I called my fleet a poverty fleet for a reason.

>>16634345
>saiun
Shit, I've been using them because when I first started the event, I only had tenzan and type 97s in my LBAS and they needed saiuns to reach the boss. I guess I forgot to check the range on ryuusei when I got them.

I will try the fighters and radars thing though. I'll try DA as well>>16634328

thanks for the help guys

>> No.16634501

>>16634456
E2 is easily doable, its just how much resources you want to save that determines its difficulty

E3 is a fucking bastard, having 2CLT and ABKM can significantly reduce the risk of being Taiha'd and make chipping/farming runs cheaper

>> No.16634508

>>16634496
Make sure your fighters are either 21s or 52s of any variety. Those should have enough range.

>> No.16634520

I think I may be the worst player on /jp/. 30k ammo left and I don't think I'm going to make it. By the end of today I will have failed to clear in medium.

>> No.16634540

>>16634520
Post fleet.

>> No.16634546

>>16634520
30k should be enough to clear. Tough luck with Hitomi though.

>> No.16634592
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>>16634540
Most of the equipment is improved.

>>16634546
I've been burning through 1k+ per run. Mostly on support expeditions that do nothing when I get sent home early.

>> No.16634613

>>16634592
Put a CVL on flagship to reduce taiha

Replace emergency repairs on DDs with AA guns

Change the setup from TCI to DA, focus on chipping for now and only change to TCI for LD

Swap Atago for Maya or even Choukai, replace Tone with KTKM

>> No.16634619

>>16634592
Don't do boss support until last kill. Do it only after the double J debuff. You shouldn't have any problems killing the boss after that.

>> No.16634621

>>16634592
Why the fuck would you marry Atago

>> No.16634625

>>16634621
He's that shota admiral that everyone around here hates.

>> No.16634628
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>>16634621
Maybe he's heterosexual.

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>> No.16634633

>>16634621
He's a pleb.

>> No.16634643

>>16634631
Hatsukaze is adorable.

>> No.16634645

>>16634621
Maybe she's healthy and playful and lovely overall?
Mayber he puts stats below personal prefferences?
Many reasons why you should marry the girl you like rather than just for muh stats.

>> No.16634654

>>16634631
What an asshole.

>> No.16634655

>>16634621
Shit taste, that's why.

>> No.16634660

>>16634631
Looks like a stuck up bitch

>> No.16634661

>>16634631
Wait, you have 30 seconds to fiddle your girls without expending goy points?

>> No.16634663

>>16634631
>that expressiveness
God i wan't her. Too bad i'll need to wait for the next event to try.

>> No.16634666

>>16634613
Unfortunately, I locked KTKM and Maya to E2

>>16634619
I've yet to get a clean kill on the boss even with boss support, but I was trying it without the I+J debuff before.

>> No.16634671

>>16634621
Bewbs.

>> No.16634673

>>16634663
I got two of her, no Nowacchi though. So sad.

>> No.16634686

>>16634592
Main fleet is fine.

Escort is a clusterfuck. Use Maya for AACI. Give Abukuma DA unless she has >40 luck. Replace Hatsuzuki for a TCI DD. Use a second CLT; Kiso if you must.

>> No.16634687

>>16634631
>Have to pay to touch her after 30 seconds
This is some hostess shit

>> No.16634691

>>16634666
Do you have CLT Kiso as a replacement?

The double J debuff makes killing her a lot easier, even though her final form has more armor. Just keep chipping until you can debuff.
The I+J debuff is for carrier Himes to be manageable during day, but isn't vital for killing the boss.
Just keep going and you should be fine (though actively, if you would).

>> No.16634714
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>> No.16634716

Does damage affect your ships' performance?

>> No.16634729
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>>16634714
The fuck?!

>> No.16634731
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16634731

Ok, KC3 experts, what does that mean? Morale hit? Exp?

>> No.16634735

>>16634716
Yes. But i forgot the proper numbers. (-25% if yellow, -50% if orange, -75% if red).

>>16634731
Never had this.

>> No.16634736
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>>16634729
That's a big bush.

>> No.16634739

>>16634716
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_Calculation#Ship.27s_Health_Modifier

>> No.16634745

>>16634714
Thank god they're not giving them pants.

>> No.16634747

>>16634735

Thanks

>> No.16634750

>>16634729
Yeah dude, combined abyssal fleet so early? WTF!

>> No.16634752

>>16634747
Ignore that and look at this instead >>16634739

>> No.16634762

>>16634625
But that's the best shota

>> No.16634766

>>16634752
>>16634739
>>16634735

Yeah I was being a tard and wondering why I couldn't clear shit, I vaguely remember something about heavily damaged ships not participating in night battle but I didn't know there was a flat drop on everything else too.

Very helpful, thanks

>> No.16634767

>>16634731
I assume you're talking about the yellow 423?
not a kc3 expert but you must've set a leveling goal for one of your ships
it's referring to the amount of runs left until that ship reaches whatever level goal you set

>> No.16634769

>>16634767
Oh, that's right. Makes sense. Thanks.

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>>16633621
>>16633625
>>16633631
>>16633892
>>16633943
>>16634029
>>16634034
>>16634044
>>16634089
>>16634232

Thank you based /jp/ magic...and KTKM.

Now to farm and complete E-3 in one day.

>> No.16634795

>>16634731
It's the number of sorties left to grind a particular ship from her current point to a certain level, on a certain map. You must've accidentally enabled the leveling tracking on the strategy room.

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>>16634750
It's fine, you only need 1 DD.

>> No.16634803

>>16634774
Unless you have dupe KitaOoi, you are going to have a bad time at E-3.

>> No.16634811
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>>16634803

I know, at this point going for the subs.

>> No.16634849

>>16634811
Eat your choco.

>> No.16634865
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>> No.16634871
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16634871

Help me, /jp/ , I beg you.

>> No.16634879

>>16634801
Guess that's what happens when you give the player control over who and how to shoot. What an incredible discovery.

>> No.16634883

>>16634871
Fuck off. It's only works with oldfags

>> No.16634887
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16634887

I kinda miss abyss air raids.

>> No.16634900

Anyone else keeping a disassembled Saiun just in case?

>> No.16634907

>>16634900
How exactly?

>> No.16634938
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明日【2/28(火) AM11:00】より、「艦これ」稼働全サーバ群はメンテナンス&アップデートを実施予定です。同メンテ突入を以て、冬イベ2017:期間限定海域【偵察戦力緊急展開!「光」作戦】は全作戦終了となります。同メンテ完了は、同日【19:00】を予定しています。

>> No.16634940

Where's the kuso collage?

>> No.16634941

>>16634865
Is that a mole?

>> No.16634944

>>16634940
Event's not over yet.

>> No.16634950

>>16634938
>8 hours
How many people are there that employed in KanColle Staff anyway?

>> No.16634953

>>16634950

Three.

>> No.16634955

>>16634950
It's definitely a small team.

>> No.16634956
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>>16634941
Yes.

>> No.16634963

>>16634950
No employees, just slaves.

>> No.16634964

>>16634950
Tanaka, Fujikawa, Akira, and one other coder.

>> No.16634966

明日【2/28(火)】実施予定の「艦これ」稼働全サーバ群共通メンテナンス&アップデートでは、冬イベ2017:期間限定海域の作戦終了、複数の【新任務】の実装、新季節家具含む【家具屋さん】お品書きの更新、妹の世話が大変なある海外生まれの重巡洋艦の【改二】改装を実装予定です!

>> No.16634970

>>16634950
Anybody have the picture of the guy wearing the Zuikaku shirt?
Who is he anyways?

>> No.16634998
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>>16634970

>> No.16635006

>>16634998
The coders?

>> No.16635013

>>16634631
A shit.

>> No.16635028

>>16634998
Is this what they do during maint?

>> No.16635036

>>16634950
It's weird that the maintenances/updates of the biggest DMM game take more hours than other games that aren't as simple as this.

>> No.16635038

>>16635028

I assume that's actually a mating ritual but I haven't watched enough documentaries to know.

>> No.16635045

>>16635028
They are followers of the Church of Zuiun

>> No.16635053

>>16634887
Please post more of this cutie.

>> No.16635058

>>16634714
>>16634729
Delicious.

>> No.16635069

>>16635045
Where can I have my initiation?

>> No.16635070

>>16634024
>0.2%
For most cases it's nowhere near that low.

>> No.16635077

last day now
do u get ur Hitomi yet?

>> No.16635080

>>16635077
I got the worthless sub on my last kill. Don't even want her. Maybe useful as a level 1 dungeon sex slave.

>> No.16635089
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>>16635053

>> No.16635105

>>16634907
You have to forgo clearing E3.

>> No.16635108

>>16635105
I'm pretty sure even doing that devs will just remove them from everyone's inventory.

>> No.16635135

>>16635077
No, first time I got an incomplete kandex since Hatsukaze.

>> No.16635194

ZARA hype

>> No.16635209
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Finally free, Yukikaze landed the finishing blow.

Now I can blow the rest of my resources in LSC.

>> No.16635210
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>>16635194

>> No.16635217
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>>16635210

>> No.16635220

I don't even like Zara, I just like spaghetti, pizza, and Italian food.

>> No.16635226
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>>16635210
Amazing.

>> No.16635230

>>16635220
I like spaghetti, pizza and Libeccio.

>> No.16635243

>>16635220
Sink her and post it here or you're just lying.

>> No.16635247

>>16635220
Same, Zara is junk.

>> No.16635248
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16635248

Sometimes I wonder if people have drastically different farming habits or just don't feel this game's RNG at all. I don't think I've ever done more than 40 runs for a drop. Though I farm only ships I like and don't farm dupes.

>> No.16635252

>>16635230
>pizza and Libeccio
You're being redundant.

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>>16635217

>> No.16635264

Zara is fucking garbage.

>> No.16635283
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16635283

Cutie.

>> No.16635284

>>16635264
I wish Pola received K2 instead. Or any other CA.

>> No.16635292
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>>16635264
Aobafag.
>>16635284
Except Aoba.

>> No.16635299

>>16635292
I hate Aoba. Go fuck yourself pastashit.

>> No.16635312

>>16635264
No, you are garbage.

>>16635292
And you should kill yourself.

>> No.16635412

All the pastas are underwhelming.

>> No.16635414

/jp/ magic please save me, 130k fuel down farming E3, only 25k left and still no sign of Hitomi.

This is the first time since I cleared 2013IBS that any of my resources have been low enough for natural regen to kick in.

>> No.16635418

>>16635312
Kill yourself first then post pics.

>> No.16635425

>>16635414
Better wind up those expeditions anon

>> No.16635436

>>16635412
Libe is great at ASW and sex.

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>>16635414
Same boat here.
I went from 250k to 100k. Started farming for her since 14 and she was nowhere to be found. I think the only drop that I am still missing from that map is Hagikaze, Teruduki and Hitomi.
I did enough sorties to even get multiple Yahagi from L.

And now I am at work with no access to my boats. Maintenance in 24hours right?

>> No.16635439

>>16635412
Yeah

>> No.16635444
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>>16635412
Italia is great, Libeccio, Pola and Aquila are good, Roma is okay.

>> No.16635448

>>16635437
23 hours and 12 minutes.

>> No.16635452

It'd be cool if Aoba is the next CA getting kai2 after Zara, I'd love to see Polafags crying over it.

>> No.16635454

>>16635452
>next CA getting kai2
Yeah, in 2019.

>> No.16635456

>>16635452
>next CA getting kai2 after Zara
See you in two years.

>> No.16635460

>>16635454
>>16635456
People used to say the same about Arashio when Asashio got it. There's still hope!

>> No.16635465

>>16635460
Konishi and jiji are active.
No idea about Hatsuko.

>> No.16635474

>>16635460
People also used to say Michishio would get it when it went to Asashio and then again when it went to Arashio. DD kai nis are just more likely to happen looking back at 2016 anyway.

>> No.16635479

Zara k2
Sara k2
Dechi k2??

>> No.16635492

>>16635460
Yeah, Arare K2 and Michishio K2. It's everything we will get this year besides Arashio K2, Zara K2 and Saratoga K2.

>> No.16635495

>>16635492
I'd be satisfied with that many.

>> No.16635501

>>16635479
>Dechi.
Umi no Snipa first.

>> No.16635503

>>16635474
>DD kai nis are just more likely to happen looking back at 2016 anyway
Do you think they'll keep doing that? I remember back then they said they were going to give k2 to a lot of DDs. I'm really hopping something different for this year.

>> No.16635514

>>16635503
There's way more DDs than any other ships, of course most remodels will be DDs too.

>> No.16635518

>>16635503
2017 and still no Nagato class kai ni.

>> No.16635549
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>>16635518
There's no need.

>> No.16635565
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16635565

Are you depending on her yet?

>> No.16635568

>>16635549
We already confirmed Arare, Arashi, and Nagara for K2 as the lead-up for Mutsu K2.

>> No.16635576

There will be more opportunities to find her in the future, I'm sure.
I tried enough.

>> No.16635578
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16635578

100 runs later and still no hole punch

>> No.16635579

>>16635576
Not for a long while get rekt nerd.

>> No.16635584

>>16635549
What's Mutsu feel like?

>> No.16635588

>>16635578
I'd punch a hole inside Hayasui.

>> No.16635593

>>16635584
Soft and warm. Pleasant.

>> No.16635602

should i give up on hitomi?
only 30k resources left

>> No.16635605

>>16635602
Might as well use that natural regen while you can.

>> No.16635606
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16635606

Who else is suffering on this event?

>> No.16635607

>>16635602
No. You'll only get shittier drop rate plus probably a non-boss node only drop next time.

>> No.16635615

>>16635474
next one will be asagumo just because I scrapped her twice this event

>> No.16635629
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16635629

>>16635615
There is still time to get another one.

>> No.16635654

>>16635602
She will be added into the sub drop pool with 250/30/200/30 recipe

>> No.16635671

>>16635654
If anything she'll be part the LSC pool like Shioi.

>> No.16635672

>>16635629
What did she mean by this?

>> No.16635674

>>16635672
She wants to yasen.

>> No.16635680

Why is Fujinami always busy? What is she doing?

>> No.16635682
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16635682

IT'S FINALLY OVER.

First run of the day, S-rank. 146 farming runs in total on hard. The kantaidex ship section remains complete.

You shall always hold a special place as the '150k fuel girl'.

All my thanks to this anon:
>>16631915
>>16631954
>>16631977
>>16631993
>>16632000
>>16632036

>> No.16635684
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16635684

Why would they make 6-5 harder than 5-5?

>> No.16635687

>>16635684
>6-5
>harder that 5-5

>> No.16635690

>>16635684
Man, your fleet gives me cancer. No wonder you're struggling on such an easy map.

>> No.16635703

>>16635690
>6-5
>easy
Maybe the boss node and first node.

>> No.16635725

>>16635682
Were you more surprised or happy?

>> No.16635732

>>16635703
Yeah, no. One Wo Kai and One Ne on the other node aren't a threat at all. The only problem is the air node which has a ridiculous amount of taiha rate.

>> No.16635754

>>16635732
The Ne's crit rate at 6-5 is annoying.

>> No.16635758

Can I bring 5SS(V) 1DD to get the node I debuff on E3?

>> No.16635764

>>16635758
>5SS(V) 1DD
no

>> No.16635778

>>16635754
Never had a crit from her except in Winter 2015 one-shotting a BB in CF.

>> No.16635803

>>16635725
Surprised, then happy & relieved, like this miasma suddenly lifted from my brain.

I took a walk around the neighbourhood afterwards.

I was expecting to clear out my BW1 quest with nonstop Hitomi farming since the monthly reset's soon, but I guess it's back to the same old routine.

/blog

>> No.16635805

>>16635732
Lol no. The air node is easy. The worst are crits from Nu flag and the Wo Kai.

>> No.16635818

>>16635283
>chinchin
That's completely correct but will lead to misunderstandings.

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>> No.16635839

>>16635836
A shit, sasuga Shitspit.

>> No.16635846

>>16635836
Ushio looks great.

>> No.16635852

Escort Flag still can't sink, right?

>> No.16635860

>>16635852
Correct.

>> No.16635864

Should I give my next blueprint to Arashio or Kinu?

>> No.16635868

>>16635864
Kinu gives 3.4 daihatsu in total.

>> No.16635869

>>16635864
Wait and see if Zara comes with tempting equipment.

>> No.16635875

>>16635869

Star Shell with placebo stats.

You heard it here first.

>> No.16635876

>>16635864
Kinu since she comes with a 5% extra resource gain from expedition, no daihatsu needed.

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>> No.16635888

>>16635875
I'll settle for CA pastagun kai (new) and another Ro.44

>> No.16635890

>>16635230
I like spaghetti, pizza and Pola.
Oh, and Italia IF I FUCKING HAD HER.

>> No.16635893

>>16635885
When does her head come off?

>> No.16635899

>>16635252
Libeccio is the best kind of pizza

>> No.16635902
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16635902

>>16635885
Looks like Mtu was right all along?

>> No.16635910

Can I bring Mutsu instead of an FBB to E3's boss phase?

>> No.16635913

>>16635910
If you do kuso-mode

>> No.16635915

>>16635910
Wasn't here for the new K2. Is Arashio a good investment?

>> No.16635922

>>16635915
Didn't mean to quote.

>> No.16635924

>>16635910
I think there was a guy who boosted her speed for that purpose.

>> No.16635930

>>16635910

Can you make Mutsu go fast?

>> No.16635934

>>16635915
Read the wiki.

>> No.16635936

>>16635930
Equip her with a turbine and a boiler.

>> No.16635941

>>16635936

My question was if he has those.

>> No.16635944

>>16635915
69 firepower
Can carry tanks
Do the math. That is to say, fucking give her the blueprint.

>> No.16635949

>>16635915
No

>> No.16635952

>>16635924
>>16635930
>>16635936
Oh thanks. Guess I'll holepunch her and give her those.

What else should I fit in her spare three slots, two Main Guns and a plane? Or would I need to fit a shell on there somewhere?

>> No.16635965

>>16635902
Giving girls with weird hair colors underwear with the same color is pretty common.

>> No.16635987

can I bring CVs to E3 or do they REALLY have to be CVLs?

>> No.16635992

>>16635987
If you're bringing suijou you can.

>> No.16635994
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16635994

For the kuso collage if it gets made

>> No.16636014

Should I pay to win 6-5 by getting a 3rd base?

>> No.16636024

>>16635987
I completed E3 via the CTF route, though it's clearly not as efficient.

>> No.16636028

>>16636014
You can only use two base on 6-5.

>> No.16636034

>>16636028
Third one on air defence can help the first two, maybe?

>> No.16636090

>>16635994
>tfw 200 runs to get hitomi and seriously considering joining this season's collage

>> No.16636101

>>16635952
Slow offrouting only applies to hard mode.

>> No.16636104
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16636104

>people trying this hard for some shitty sub

Seriously take mine. I'll trade her for 5 Maruyus so I can give some luck to my Arashio.

>> No.16636108

Maya is a piece of shit.

>> No.16636110

>>16636104
>some shitty sub
3 equipment slots, rare sub equipment, lewd art

>> No.16636116

>>16636090

It's not worth it. Just stay in the bittersweet end side of things. You freed one but can't save the other. For now.

>>16636104

It's your moral duty to save every girl from the Abyssal clutches.

>> No.16636120

>>16634940
Hitomi still hasn't dropped so it's going to be a late one unless she shows up right away.

>> No.16636127

>>16636104
Sure sub is a shitty class but you gotta keep a 100% kantaidex completion

>> No.16636136

>>16636104

>I'll trade her for 5 Maruyus so I can give some luck to my Arashio

I wonder what a KanColle market would be like. It seems like it would be ridiculous.

>> No.16636140

>>16636104
I enjoy killing the twins, I'm still farming that node even though I don't care about subs.

>> No.16636145

>>16636104
Fuck off. Hitomi > Iyo

>> No.16636163

>>16636136
It will never happen, but DMM points would have to be used to balance it.

>> No.16636170

>>16636163

>balancing a free market

>> No.16636178

>>16636136
imagine the doujin material

>> No.16636181

>>16636170
Yeah, no need to balance, just let me make 100 accounts only to LSC with them and feed all the Maruyus to my main.

>> No.16636183

>>16636170
>people just use an alternate to trade to their main
It would be abused to hell.

>> No.16636184
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16636184

>>16636101
Oh well, looks like I wasted a holepunch then.

This fleet only has 419AP but I suppose it doesn't matter much in suijou. Are there any changes I should make before starting?

>> No.16636205

>>16636184
>sanshiki
What the hell are you doing?
>Hatsushit's equipment
Yo what the fuck?
>Tone, Abucute, Ooi set up
Yeah good luck pulling a cut-in with that luck.
>Sonar on beaver
But why?

>> No.16636219

>>16636205
The sonar is legit m8.

>> No.16636223

>>16636219
Did I miss some new development? Last time I checked only upgraded sonars increased accuracy against torps.

>> No.16636224

>>16636104
You're retarded, nobody cares how useful she is. Every event there's newfags that don't get this.

>> No.16636230

>>16636223
Yes you did.

>> No.16636232

>>16636223

Extra damage against boss, ignores cap.

>> No.16636233

>>16636223

Instead of making the Submarine twins only vulnerable to ASW gear, they made her take extra damage from ships with ASW gear equipped.

>> No.16636234

>>16636224
You're retarded, nobody said she was useful.

>> No.16636236

>>16636205
>Hatsushit
>Abucute
(You)

>>16636223
Yeah, boss takes extra damage if you bring ASW.

>> No.16636237

>>16636184
Use the red shell, full AACI on dogduck, Aggro on Tone, DA on CLT.
>>16636224
Yeah, they totally miss the point of this game.

>> No.16636240

>>16636230
>>16636232
>>16636233
That's what I get for not reading about more debuffs after clearing the event then. Carry on.

>> No.16636249

>>16636205
Abuworstkumafags are this retarded.

>> No.16636259

>>16636184
Do you even know how luck and cut-ins work? Because with that escort fleet chances are everyone except Beaver will do a normal single attack and miss.

>> No.16636271

>>16636240
More like not paying any attention to the threads for the past few days.

>> No.16636273

Now I feel like an idiot for using the Italians in E3.

>> No.16636277

>>16636273
Why?

>> No.16636278

>>16636273
Why? You can't handle their repair cost?

>> No.16636288

>>16636277
>>16636278
Long story short, they suck.
I wanted to like them and give them a chance, but they just can't perform over the others in my fleet.

>> No.16636295

>1-3 is harder to beat than E-3

>> No.16636297

>>16636184
Give Hiyou and Jun'you Reppuu mule setups.
As others said, use AP shell instead of sanshiki.

Give Hatsuzuki 2 guns 1 radar.
Move the searchlight to Tone. If you have seiran give it to her; if not then go double attack + searchlight + night recon/flare (either is fine) on her.
Give both CLTs double attack.
Finally, go Abukuma/Hatsuzuki/Tone/Ooi/Kitakami/Yukikaze, in this order.

>> No.16636336

>>16636288
They are the strongest not counting Iowa

>> No.16636338

>>16636273
Why would you use them? Stick with Haruna and da monkeys.

>> No.16636341

>>16636288
They are both better than Bongos.

>> No.16636345

>>16636288
Post your equipment setup.

>> No.16636351

Come to think of it, I'm surprised no one used pastas in escort fleet against the E3 boss.

>> No.16636362
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16636362

>>16636345
Problem is they miss a lot and eat taihas even more.
Italia is comparable for equipment.
I'll admit I've haven't upgraded Italian guns much.

>> No.16636364

>>16636351
Pasta in main fleet, Bisko in escort.

>> No.16636368

>>16636364
Pastas can equip seirans.

>> No.16636371

>>16636351
They suck. Even if you wanna use the seiran meme, you would be using a CAV.
Seiran only give like wut, 1.2x modifier?
I doubt anyone here even has a luckmodded CAV to utilize it properly,.

>> No.16636376

Does the losses collage accept Chinese entries?

Found this while checking the replies in a thread where someone complained about failing to get Hitomi.

>> No.16636379

>>16636364
>Bisko
>good for anything in 2017

>> No.16636381
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16636381

>>16636376
oops

>> No.16636388

>>16636381
Why do you expect us to read chink?

>> No.16636390

>>16636381
RIP IN PISS Matsukaze?

>> No.16636396

>>16636388
They're just as cryptic as the wikia comments.

>> No.16636426

>>16636388
tl;dr dude accidentally fed Matsukaze to someone else shortly after clearing E2

>> No.16636478

Did anybody bother sparkling all their ships for each sortie of the event?

>> No.16636484

>>16636478
Only for E3 node I.

>> No.16636489

TS I'll give you some further consolation, today after I got my ranking rewards, I went to check my fleet and realised that… WTF where did Matsukaze go! I went and opened Poi's ships notification plugin, couldn't find her. I was dumbfounded, surely I couldn't have scrapped her, I quickly opened Poi's logbook plugin, then I saw the bad news: Matsukaze was unfortunately fed to some other ship the day I cleared E2

Yes, that's right, I lost Matsukaze, I hope you're happier now TS

= =b, that's a pity, *pats poster*, lock your ships next time

>> No.16636496

>>16636489
Translation for >>16636381 in reply to >>16636388

5-4 is distracting.

>> No.16636542

http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=11080735

The guy who cleared E3 with married (on Feb 19) Hitomi maxed her luck as well.

He's from Kanoya.

>> No.16636545

>>16636362
How do they taiha more when they have the same armor as Fusou but have more health and evasion?

>> No.16636569

>>16636184
why does your ultra ABKM have 23 luck?

>> No.16636570

>>16636545
You tell me.
If I knew maybe I could do something about it.

>> No.16636578

>>16636351
I have no pastas is the main reason

>> No.16636580

>>16636570
You are bullshitting, everyone gets the same girl and RNG. Your bias is clouding facts.

>> No.16636593

>>16636545
>92 Hp with shit evasion and armor rolls.
Literally a taiha magnet.

>> No.16636603

>>16636545
Pastas have less evasion than Haruna
Less accurate than Haruna
Less AA than Haruna
More expensive than Haruna

>> No.16636621

>>16636371
1.24 modifier.

>> No.16636622
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16636622

So she drops at A rank.

Well that surprised me.

>> No.16636625

>>16636545
Because Italians are shit.

>> No.16636703
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16636703

>>16636622
Is she the most popular event ship?

>> No.16636713

>>16636703
I hate how she speaks so slowly. She ends up speaking over herself in sorties. I'd much rather prefer her sister.

Both of them are cute though.

>> No.16636720

>>16636703
Maybe for this event, but all time? No.

>> No.16636724

>>16636703
I swear I will find you next time, sorry.

>> No.16636737
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16636737

http://dec.2chan.net/60/res/12284748.htm

>> No.16636740

All of my ships keep getting Taiha'd on the air raid node right before the E3 Boss. I haven't even been able to go past it yet.
What can I do to increase my survival chances?

>> No.16636745

>>16636703
She's the least unpopular event ship this event.

>> No.16636747

>>16636740

Holepunch everyone and give them your best AA guns.

>> No.16636749

>>16636737
Shimakaze and furry getting a cross over?

>> No.16636762

>>16636747
Where can I get them without spending all my hard-earned sheckles?

>> No.16636768

>>16636737
I should learn how to mod KanColle

>> No.16636804
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16636804

>> No.16636808

>>16636737
>[zekamashichang check] Standard Edition

>start

>tits........ok
>hair........ok
>ribon........ok
>panties........ok
>smell........ok

>check done

>zekamashichang

>> No.16636812

>>16636804
A shit.

>> No.16636830

since im in 乙mode,should i use Ise with Seiran in my fleet?

>> No.16636840
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16636840

Pretty good event. Shame I didn't get that Fuji girl though.

>> No.16636841

>>16636804
That's some real well done shit. Just look at those legs. Those clothes. Even this fucking hair.

>> No.16636869

>>16636841
stop eyeraping shigure

>> No.16636870
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16636870

>>16636840

Wanted Teruzuki (maybe I'll still get her with my final 8000 Baux) but I'm happy with what I got.

Not pictured: Another Amatsukaze and two more Takanamis.

What am I supposed to do with all these Skilled Lookouts?

>> No.16636890

>Effect of 53~100 High Morale: [Sortie] Higher evasion and accuracy during battle
>Effect of Marriage: Line-of-sight / Scouting Icon LOS (索敵), and Evasion Icon Evasion (回避) are uncapped

So marriage is just one form of permanently sparkle?

>> No.16636895

>>16636890
No, marriage just raises level cap to 155, additional levels give los, evasion, asw

Retard.

>> No.16636899

>>16636895
That's fucking bad

>> No.16636906

>>16636899
No shit, it would be broken if it were a permanent sparkle.

>> No.16636907

>>16636737
At least Yoshinori gets to do more for Shimakaze in a different game. Fucking Tanaka.

>> No.16636911
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16636911

Can you get Prinz yet or is she locked behind random events here and there still?
I refuse to play this game until I can get the ship I love.

>> No.16636914

>>16636911
Fuck off to /a/ if you are a secondary.

>> No.16636915

>>16636911
You're incredibly late to the party.

>> No.16636920

>>16636911
If you really loved her you would be training your fleet to be ready for when you can get her.

>> No.16636924

>>16636907
>game
Furry Shimakaze is getting an anime next month m8.

>> No.16636925

Is Prinz the biggest newfag bait now?

>> No.16636927

>>16636915
I know I'm late but I also know ships come back for events.

>> No.16636928

>>16636906
Wait, so why people even buy the rings to marry their ships? I always thought it was for the stats but it's fucking bad beside the evade, -15% usage resource, +3~6 luck and epeen level-cap

There's no way they marry ships just because of 'love', right?

>> No.16636930

>>16636911
You won't ever be able to get her unless you prepare long in advance. And you'd probably end up growing attached to more than a single character along the way. So either stick to fanart or put in the effort to broaden your horizons.

>> No.16636933

>>16636925
That's Kaga

>> No.16636934

>>16636928
They will stop leveling otherwise, think of all that wasted exp.

>> No.16636937

>>16636933
>Kaga
>bait of any kind
Only in your dreams, Kagafag.

>> No.16636938

>>16636925
Kashima.

>> No.16636942

>>16636938
I haven't seen any newfag talking about how they want Kashima.

>> No.16636944

>>16636942
Good, keep it that way. Kashima is mine.

>> No.16636948

>>16636928
It also extends the repair timer due to the way it scales with level. Might not be an issue if you've got buckets, but it's funny that it can actually be a slight downgrade.

>> No.16636951

>>16636930
Yeah, you're right. I've been following this game since it launched but never bothered to set up and get into it due to time and other shit. If I haven't played it by niw I probably never will.

>> No.16636952

>>16636944
Shit tier waifu.

>> No.16636971

>>16636930

Levels matter for accuracy, evasion, LoS and ASW which matter a lot. You can still do fine with lvl 99 ships but married fleets definetly have an edge.

>> No.16637053

What's the chance of a sparkled flagship+second slot route support fleet not showing up on the same node six times in a row?

Because I'm beginning to think the game doesn't want me to clear E3.

>> No.16637062

>>16637053
Don't be lazy, sparkle them all. Moreover route support costs little morale.

>> No.16637070

I have 250 point over #500. Can I stop doing anything until month ends?

>> No.16637071

>>16637053
That's about failing 8 coin tosses.

Stop being a scrub and sparkle everyone. You are being incredibly foolish if you don't sparkle all ships for route support.

>> No.16637078

>>16637062
>>16637071
Eh, I was pretty sure data confirmed that only the first two had any affect on the fleet turning up.

>> No.16637086

20k left i dun think i can make it

>> No.16637090

I've been trying to play E3 for the last 4 hours but my CVL always gets taiha'd on the first node.
I fucking hate this game.

>> No.16637095

7th consecutive failure to turn up on the same node and I quit.
All my BBs are doing single digit double attacks as well so clearly they don't want to defeat the boss anyway.

>> No.16637102

>>16637078
What data? General consensus is boss support only needs flagship sparkled while route support benefits from full fleet sparkled.

>> No.16637111

>>16637078
Base chance for route support is 50%. Sparkling the flagship adds 15%. Sparkling any other ship adds 5% per ship. Orange/red morale don't affect the chance.

So a fully sparkled route support has a 90% chance of proccing. Your fleet only had 70% chance.

By the way, the base chance for boss support is 85% so sparkling just the flagship is enough.

>> No.16637115

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.gr.java_conf.snake0394.loglook_android

Well what is this

>> No.16637118

>>16637090
Post fleet. When does she get taiha? Aerial or shelling phase?

>> No.16637127

>>16637111
>Your fleet only had 70% chance.
>7 times in a row on the same node

>> No.16637131

>>16637127
Are you retarded?

>> No.16637132

>>16637127
It happens to one every 4572 people or so, but then most people sparkle everyone for route support.

>> No.16637157

>>16637115
Support app to make playing the android port easier. Has typical features seen in full desktop viewers, like fatigue, dock expedition notifications, battle report and resource logging.

>> No.16637161

>>16636911
You don't love her if you refuse to play this game for her.

>> No.16637167

>>16637161
He's a few years too late. Wanting a girl but not being in her event means he isn't even dedicated.

>> No.16637172

Why don't we have more nodes like 2-4-G in the event?

>> No.16637180

>>16637167
You can't be dedicated to a girl that appears in an event for the first time if you found out about her post event.

>> No.16637194

>>16637078
Where did you even hear it?

>> No.16637249

>>16637157
How legit is it though?
I'm tempted to use it to keep track on things while farming on the android version, but I'm worried that it's not as safe as the browser-version viewers.

>> No.16637286

>>16637249
Who knows. He has taken pains to making a website about the app. It sources the libraries he used (including licences), gives a little tutorial on how to use the thing, noting differences for android OS versions. He also states that it doesn't have any ability to macro or mess with data sent (packets I'm assuming).

>> No.16637326
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16637326

As I thought, you can indeed average one run every 5 minutes at 5-4 with an all sub fleet, making for 12 runs/hour.

Can you do that with a surface fleet?

>> No.16637341

>>16637326
Yes. You can do 4 minute runs with surface fleet.

>> No.16637344

>>16637341
>5 CV 1 CAV
Enjoy your bauxite drain.

>> No.16637345

>>16637344
I never said it would be cheap. You just asked if it was possible and i answered.

>> No.16637349

>>16637345
Well, yeah, true.

>> No.16637361

>>16637326
How many sub fleets you have?

>> No.16637371

>>16637361
Enough for 3 sets. Why?

>> No.16637376
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16637376

>sortie to E3
>ship gets taiha'd on the first or second node
>wait 14 minutes for fatigue to regenerate
>rinse and repeat

It's been like this for the last 6 hours. I've got to go to bed soon and I hate that I'm probably never going to beat this map.

>> No.16637380

>>16637376
Take some Reppuu for AS.

>> No.16637382

>>16637376
You had two weeks. You have only yourself to blame.

>> No.16637383

>>16637376
Post fleet.

>> No.16637388

>>16637371
Just wanted to know because with that amount of runs in that short of span of time I thought you had at least 4, I mean fatigue limits the number of times you can sortie and considering the average sub rank is B, there must be a time where you bottleneck and if it isn't fatigue then it's failed run.

>> No.16637400

>>16637388
I'm quite certain he won't even manage ten sorties an hour in a long run.

>> No.16637404
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16637404

>全キラでバケツを取りに向かう支援艦隊

>> No.16637407

>>16637388
Yeah, but with married subs you don't get many failed runs. I'd say if you have a lot of them you'll probably average ~10 successful runs an hour. (That and top 5ers probably damecon their subs or something so it's not an issue to them anyway.)

Fatigue isn't that much of an issue since you get back 15 morale per 15 minutes and there's also MVP and such.

>>16637400
I did, on the last day of last August. Sneaked into top 500 because of that.

>> No.16637410
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>>16637404
God damn I've done this more times than I ever should

>> No.16637432

>>16637407
>one day
I said long run.

>> No.16637433

>>16637376
I almost felt sorry for myself for still no Hitomi after 200k fuel down the drain and then I felt even worse when I saw your post. Post fleet, drop difficulty. Maybe /jp/ magic can help you in this dark hour.

>> No.16637442

>>16637432
Of course not. I've never had the time to do top 5 ranking. I usually barely have the time to do top 500 ranking as it is; maybe one or two attempts a year and that's it. This month is one of those exceptions; I'm certain I won't be able to rank again for a long while.

>> No.16637456

>>16637326
>tfw abysmal bucket counts and have to rely on 1-5 opASW instead
God please save me, I need 230 runs for this.

>> No.16637459
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16637459

>>16637433
How many are you at?
I did another 8sorties today. I think I am going to fail. I only have another 3hours to go.

>> No.16637462

https://youtu.be/gSiVYJJTO2I?t=6m37s

Look at my fucking noobfag of a friend and his luck.

>> No.16637475

>>16637462
Let me guess: he's European?

>> No.16637478
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16637478

I'm out of slots and need to scrap two.
Which do I get rid of? I already have another Tokitsukaze from this event.

>> No.16637487

>>16637478
Your least favourite.

>> No.16637488

>>16637462
Based Pudding.

>> No.16637497

>>16637478
Tokitsukaze since you already have her. Maikaze since she drops everywhere in 3-3.

>> No.16637504

Why is it that whenever I see Hitomi I get a huge urge to just rape her and creampie inside her without ever taking responsibility even if I don't find her that attractive?

>> No.16637511

18K resources left
Hitomi pls

>> No.16637513

>>16637286

Did you manage to set it up? I'm trying but it doesn't work

>> No.16637514

>>16637475
Not outside but I'm pretty sure his inner shit is one.

>> No.16637532

>>16637459
133 boss encounters. I have already accepted that I have failed. Hope only exacerbates the disappointment. Going to spend the next few days doing only expeditions and ignoring quests and sorties because I can barely stand the game at the moment.

>> No.16637553

47k fuel left and still no Hitomi.
It's been a while since the last time I didn't get all the new ships in an event.

>> No.16637557

>>16637459
>another 3hours to go
Aren't there 12 hours left, or are you saying you only have 3 hours of free time?

>> No.16637568

Lend me your power /jp/
I don't seek I-13, or even Yuus. All I want is a Nimu.

>> No.16637574

>>16637568
Have all my power, I've wanted Nimu myself too

>> No.16637577
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16637577

>>16637557
Sleep work etc
I just want this shit to end. Been taking me up all my free time for the past 2weeks already.

>> No.16637584
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>>16637462
>no debuff was done
Then why are the lights off?

And what is the probability for all four girls to attack boss in yasen if there is four enemies left?
0.39%?

>> No.16637594

>>16637584
A bit less considering flagship spot.

>> No.16637595

>>16637584
>beside the one revealing the boss's final form
Learn to read.

>is four enemies

>> No.16637598

>>16637568
>>16637574
bless u two while still struggling with i-13

>> No.16637600

>>16637111
Hey about this. What about accuracy then?
The last time I paid attention to mechanics was probably almost a year ago and back then everyone just sparkled everything.

So now for boss support disregarding appearance rate, does sparkling help with accuracy?

>> No.16637602
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16637602

>>16637577
I know that feel. I too want this to end. I want to stop here and move on knowing I did my best.

>> No.16637604

>>16637600
No idea on that one. Some say yes, some say no. But I did sparkle everyone in boss support for E3 node I.

>> No.16637605

Is E3 beatable without doing the debuffs?
I'm not sure I've got the time to attempt them.

>> No.16637608

>>16637602
I wish there was a second season. Very nice show.

>> No.16637609

>>16637605
甲mode?

>> No.16637612

>tfw the secret to get every drops in few runs is not to take it seriously.

>> No.16637613

>>16637605
You can forgo I/J debuff. I wouldn't advise you to forgo the quest debuff though.

>> No.16637615

Is there a site where I can look up >current< ranking thresholds for the servers? Something like senka.me.

>> No.16637616

>>16637612
>every drops in few runs
In English please.

>> No.16637617
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16637617

>>16637595
But isn't this the final boss form without the additional debuff?

>> No.16637619

>>16637605
J node debuff is stupid easy, do that at least.

>> No.16637622

>>16637615
Go to futaba and look for the thread with the facebook like icon. They usually have it up by the end of the month.

>> No.16637625

how many s rank u guys get in E3?
without debuff

>> No.16637626

>>16637605
I don't have a large enough sample size, but damaging the boss was much easier with the quest debuff.
As other have said, it's stupid easy to do too.

>> No.16637627
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16637627

>>16637604
Well I'm on last dance with only 10k fuel left.
If you don't mind, does this look good?

>> No.16637630

>>16637605
Just the quest debuff is enough.
>>16637615
For Top 500, the current safe zone is 500th+100pts.
>>16637625
1 from a star-aligned run.

>> No.16637632

I beat the boss without doing the quest debuff because I didn't realize I was on last dance, so I didn't know the quest had pop up already. This was on hard btw.

>> No.16637633

>>16637627
No Ooi?

>> No.16637635

>>16637627
>no abucute
>1torpedo slut

It is shit.

>> No.16637636

>>16637633
Used Ooi in E-2. Left with Kiso.
Same with Tone class.

>> No.16637640

>>16637622
Thanks.

>>16637627
Don't use overweight guns in Suijou. Use fit guns. Don't use Ro.43, it's shit for Suijou (and in general). Don't use TCI on KTKM.

>>16637630
Cool. I have over 200 so should be fine with merely doing dailies on 5-4.

>> No.16637643

>Akira abyssals look good
>Mizuho and Teste look like ass

I guess Akira only does monochrome well doesn't he

>> No.16637645

>>16637613
>>16637619
>>16637626
>>16637630
Alright, will do!
There's not much I'll need to prepare for it, right? I've heard it's an installation so will equipping green shells over my reds be enough?

>> No.16637646

>>16637643
>he

>> No.16637648

>>16637584
>>16637617
The last time I saw his Goya cut in dealing 6 (six) dmg to boss so I told him to give up the debuff.

>> No.16637650

>>16637645
No, retard. Use Sanshiki in escort fleet only. Read the fucking wiki.

>> No.16637652

>>16637635
I have her but if I use her then Sendai won't get to sortie and that's bad so I locked her up in E-2.

>>16637640
I'd assume +9 upgraded guns would be better than +0 fit guns. Am I wrong?
Ah the seaplanes I just switched to fit their nationality because I didn't think there would be much difference from an observation seaplane.

>> No.16637660

>>16637646
Fine, she then.

>> No.16637666

>>16637627
For support fleet give Kasumi and Poi another Akizuki/Libeccio gun, but otherwise it looks legit.

>>16637652
And you couldn't have sent Sendai to E1 why?

>> No.16637669

>>16637645
You don't even need to destroy the boss iirc, just an A rank is enough.
Load up your LBAS. I took some AP on main fleet for the pillboxes, and took greens for my escort CAs. Take WGs if you feel like it.

>>16637627
DA on KTKM.
Use something better than Stukas on your support fleet, though it's just a detail.
Just an opinion, but my CAs were marginally effective on my escort fleet, maybe it'll work better for you.

>> No.16637673

>>16637640
You really need to see the actual ranking at 3PM JST tomorrow tho. Be cautious.

>> No.16637676

>>16637666
I used 6 subs on E-1.
But it's more of like a general habit or rule to clear the final EO with married ships even if they are a liability.

>>16637669
Would a Murata be better on each?
So what did you use instead of a CA?

>> No.16637677

>>16636116
>You freed one but can't save the other.
I should have worded it all in the past tense. I got 'em both after about 200 runs and narrowly escaped insanity.

>> No.16637679

>>16637645
Better not. Not everything there is weak to sanshiki; there're imps there too.

>>16637650
Nice one there Internet tough guy.

>> No.16637680

>>16637652
>I'd assume +9 upgraded guns would be better than +0 fit guns. Am I wrong?
Yes, read the threads or at least OP or wiki. Difference between untouched 35.6 and max 46cm for an extreme example is like 10 accuracy on a Bongo.
There is a difference in artillery spotting between seaplanes.

>> No.16637681

>>16637679
Even if everything there was weak to Sanshiki equipping one in main fleet would be retarded. Read the wiki.

>> No.16637685

>>16637681
One good reason is good enough. No need to give two. Besides you already stated the other one so there's no reason for me to repeat it.

>> No.16637687

>>16637680
Ah yes I know that the 46cm is a huge demerit but that's why I put the 38cm kai there to kind of balance it out.

Or at least that's that's the idea.
I honestly don't know how to read the OP chart despite referring to it multiple times. Just followed the color codes thinking green = good, white = okay and red = bad or something.

>> No.16637691

>>16637676
>Would a Murata be better on each?
Sure, if the formula is to be believed anyway.

>So what did you use instead of a CA?
In my case i had another CLT lying around. I don't know if another TCI destroyer would be better, since the results vary so much.

>> No.16637704

Alright professionals. E-3 medium or hard. I'll only do hard if I'm 100% sure I'll be able to clear it don't care about epeen medal.

>> No.16637707

>>16637680
IIRC it's ~13 accuracy for an unmarried Kongou and ~9 accuracy for a married one.

>>16637687
Post all your battleship guns.

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>>16637704
shit sorry for picture kinda tired

>> No.16637712

>>16637704
>>16637708
Need more information. Post all your ships and equipment.

>> No.16637717
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>>16637707
Here.

>> No.16637723

>>16637704
Not sure how big of the different is but you don't even need to run support to farm it. You can probably run your CVL with 1torp bomber in buta mode to make it even easier.

>> No.16637725

>>16637712
yea that seems like a bit of work. I'll just give you a quick run down. Every single ship that was released since dec 2013 except prinz eugen (i managed to stop playing at that event fuck me) all kai ni'd and everything. all equipments made available except the ones from prinz event and no ranking rewards.

>> No.16637742

>>16637704
Why do hard if you don't care about the medal? For 3 screws?

>> No.16637748

>>16637643
Maybe she just doesn't like working on those as much.

>> No.16637752

>>16637742
Yea I guess that's true. Might as well med so I can farm i-13

>> No.16637755

>>16637640
>>16637652
>>16637680
>>16637687
Upgraded 46cm may be less accurate, but it's fine on married Kongous.

For recon seaplanes, higher LoS planes allow a higher artillery spotting proc rate. It's best to prioritise the highest LoS plane on Bismarck since doing so gives the highest increase to fleet LoS for the purpose of artillery spotting.

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>>16637687
Have this one then.

>> No.16637772

>>16637765
>381mm is unfit on VV class
I call bullshit on that.

>> No.16637777

>>16637725
Just the equipment, then. No idea what shit you upgraded.

>> No.16637791

>>16637707
>>16637755
No it isn't. Marriage doesn't change shit. It simply allows higher level which is what affects accuracy. There's no magical bullshit like losing overweight penalty after marriage. In Suijou Butai you won't achieve accuracy cap so even on 155 Kongou it's better to use 35.6cm. They reach the damage cap anyway.

>>16637772
It's quite possible according to my experience and I saw similar results in other tests in the past.

>> No.16637808

>>16637791
Maybe. But Bismarck having better fitness with 381mm than VV class is definitely bullshit.

>There's no magical bullshit like losing overweight penalty after marriage.
Alright then. Did anyone verify it through testing?

>> No.16637812

>>16637791
>They reach the damage cap anyway.
Only in doukousen or green T, and if they aren't chuuha.

>> No.16637822

>>16637808
Wouldn't say so. But it's always possible for +/- 1 margin of error and 1 difference barely matters. The point was a difference between overweight and fit on Kongous which is huge.

Well, yeah. Look at the tests. The difference in accuracy is just what you would expect from difference between lv99 and lv155.

>>16637812
Yeah, so majority of the time. Meanwhile low accuracy hurts you in every possible engagement.

>> No.16637831

>>16637822
>he doesn't get chuuha BBs all the time
Fucking Euros.

>> No.16637838

>>16637765
I didn't know Iowa's guns are as magical as proto51s.
So I'm guessing I should use them over 46cms then.

>> No.16637859

>>16637831
Git gud.
Seriously, there's only one-two Wo which can hurt you and often it's either miss or taiha so chuuha doesn't matter. If you bring Iowa, she won't get chuuha'd most of the time thanks to her high armor and HP. Half the time the Wo will get disabled before doing anything.

>>16637838
Definitely. They are far better than 46cm. Almost the same power, much more accuracy and lower caliber which naturally implies smaller penalty. Historically they were the best guns too, I think, so it makes sense they give smaller penalty than 41cm. Bonus +1 armor is also quite helpful, for example it saved my Nagamon from going chuuha after being hit by Wo Kai's shelling during Autumn E5 (46/90) and she proceeded to kill her in return preventing further damage.

>> No.16637867

>>16637838
Iowa's guns are far more magical. Proto51 can only be equipped on Nagatos and Hotels, Freedom Guns can be equipped on anyone. And with the +4/7 accuracy it gives the small acc penalty is negated. There is nothing better than Freedom Guns.

46cm guns are the worst things at the current meta besides support. They absolutely crucify non-Nagato/Hotel ships with the accuracy penalty. And on Nagato and Hotels you are better off giving them proto41s.

>> No.16637881

>>16637859
>it's a Euros tell people to git gud because everyone somehow has their luck episode
I bet you got Hitomi while clearing too.

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>>16637881

>> No.16637894

Anyone can translate this?
>現在、艦これ検証共同および艦これ検証wikiで検証途中「ケッコンフィット」仮説(ケッコン艦のフィット補正検証まとめ 文旦氏)について簡単に触れる。図11のように、LV100以上の高レベル戦艦では、LV99では素手より命中率が低い装備条件の一部において、赤疲労命中率の上昇が複数観測されている。しかし、艦種や装備によっては命中率上昇が観測されない「過積載砲」装備時の観測結果も複数報告されている。詳細な発動条件やその恩恵などの効果は不明な部分が多いため、「全てのケッコン艦にて効果が期待できる」といった判断は現段階で早計であり、今後の検証にてメカニズム解明が待たれる。

And this.
http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89:749

>> No.16637897
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My third Akashi. Still no second Nimu or third Yuu in side.

>> No.16637898
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16637898

>>16637881
Bingo!

>> No.16637914

>>16637894
Those who shalt not even try shalt get jackshit

>> No.16637920

>>16637867
>small acc penalty
I highly doubt that. Early tests on Iowa had her have lower accuracy with 1 or 2 16in guns than without, before they were made neutral on her.

The actual accuracy penalty is more likely to be -6.

>> No.16637928

>>16637894

Married ships may have increased accuracy when fatigued (unconfirmed).

Basically telling us nothing until further experiment to solidify the claim.

>> No.16637939

>>16637920
Nope. Do you really think test would forget about base accuracy of equipment? Notice how all 35.6cm and 38cm are grouped together, same with 41cm.

>> No.16637942

>>16637831
Can you shut the fuck up with your shit meme?

>> No.16637945

>>16637928
Yeah but is it some bonus on top of the high base accuracy which comes from higher level?

>> No.16637950
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16637950

Today's her birthday: say something nice about her.

>> No.16637954

>>16637950
Fuck off.

>> No.16637955

>>16637513
It's not compatible with my device. What I can say is that it requires you to setup localhost as a proxy, port 8080, followed by a cache clear using KanColle's in-game button.

>> No.16637962

>>16637939
If the equipment was the only one in its own class at the time of testing, it's actually very much possible.

>> No.16637973

>>16637950
Hatsuharu is good girl

>> No.16637974

>>16637945

The difference only manifests during fatigue (red face), which has little use outside of fatigue ranking. Bare in mind that non-fatigue state is always better, married or not. Plus it is unconfirmed.

>> No.16637980

Finally had the rng line up right and got the kill I needed to finish off E3. I thought I was gonna be up all night but Yukikaze pulled through on what should have been a doomed run and now I can get some sleep.

>> No.16637982

>>16637962
So you think 16inch gives innate -4 penalty to Iowa, Warspite, Fusou Kai Ni, Nagato and Yamato?

>> No.16637993

>>16637772
It is, both "sources" in that image show that they are fit.

>> No.16638023
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16638023

Gonna hunt the big one. 2-4, 2-5, 3-4, 4-4 or 5-2?

>> No.16638028

>>16638023
2-5 or 5-2

>> No.16638052

>>16637898
I hope bloody repefuugees burn down you country soon.

>> No.16638071

>>16638052
Thankfully they have no intention of even passing through my country because they're scared of local people who didn't embrace multicultural overly tolerant brainwashing. Just kidding, social care sucks here.

>> No.16638076

>>16637897
How many sorties did it take you? I'm 300+ and haven't seen any dupe Akashis, Yuus, Nimus or Shiois.

>> No.16638095
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16638095

Well yeah thanks for the heads up about removing 46cm off Kongou. Sunk a hime she did. MVP at results screen.
Everyone did really well and surprisingly chuuha Sendai delivered.

No miracle I-13 but that's okay. Brought back what's important.

>> No.16638100

>>16637982
Might actually be possible. 16in was historically almost 20% heavier than the Nagatos' 41cm.

Besides look at the tests for Warspite in the OP for example. 16in's result is far too inaccurate for a gun with supposedly neutral fitness.

>> No.16638107

>>16638076

I lost count. I pretty much do 1 or 2 sorties whenever I have time to spare since I cleared the event. Probably around 100~200 runs for now. I only want 1 more Nimu or Yuu and I will be done.

>> No.16638109

>>16638095
i told you man. Good job!

>> No.16638117

>>16637942
>meme
It's actually true you know.

>> No.16638119

>>16638107
DId you get your second Yuu from this event or before? Because grinding for 10 days and getting dozens of Tanikazes, Hamakazes, Mizuhos, Minazukis, Imuyas, Ikus and even 3 Kashimas and 4 Isokazes is like putting all effort into convincing me that there are no dupes of any rare sub

>> No.16638131

>>16638119

I got her from the previous event. She just dropped during one chipping run iirc.

>> No.16638145

>>16637950
All of you are good

>> No.16638146
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16638146

I hate this composition.

>> No.16638157

>>16638146
It's wondeful when a total of 8 torps do jack shit to even the weakest of Abyssals.

>> No.16638164

Is red morale LBAS less effective?

>> No.16638165

>>16638146
This is what you get for bullying Chompy so much.

>> No.16638178

>>16638164
It kinda is... kinda. A full set of bombers may miss just as much in normal morale as in red, and they have similar odds of all hitting. The difference is presumably very small.

>> No.16638184

Does Hitomi drop on A? Or S only?
Also does the boss revert back to prefinal like the previous time? I thought she was easier to kill in the final form.

>> No.16638188

>>16638184
Both, Yes.

>> No.16638189

>>16638184
A is enough. Read the wiki.

>> No.16638197

>>16638178
Hmm, I'll test it a bit in an hour or so.

>> No.16638199
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16638199

Is it too late to farm for terizuki in node I subs only?

>> No.16638202

>>16638164
It's damn apparent when you send a lone sub to 6-5 to double chevron the planes. Once the planes start getting fatigued you can be sure that sub isn't coming back unscathed.

>> No.16638206

>>16638197
Don't you have, like, 10 hours left?

>> No.16638208

>>16638199
Not worth it lad.

>> No.16638213

>>16638206
10 hours and 10 minutes approximately.

>> No.16638236

>>16634631
Kannagi a cute.

>> No.16638240

>>16637980
No time to sleep, now you must farm.

>> No.16638246

>>16638240
What do you use to farm for Hitomi? The same clearing fleet?

>> No.16638247

>>16638236
Nagi.
Don't worry, I often call her Kannagi as well.

>> No.16638257

>>16638236
>>16638247
Literally who?

>> No.16638262

>>16638257
The anime made by the guy that got kicked out of godani

>> No.16638264

>>16638246
I wouldn't know, she came out of the last failed attempt before kill.
Presumably you go as cheap as possible on the fuel and ammo guzzling, Kongous and such.

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>>16638257

>> No.16638276

>>16638257
The whore who caused fans to tear their goods apart.

>> No.16638281

>>16638276

I never understand it. She is just another generic girl in a harem show. The fans should just move on from it and find another harem show to adore.

>> No.16638283

As we come to the end of yet another comfy Winter Event, are you looking forward to another bug-riddle shitfest filled with Fun & Engaging Mechanics™ when Spring rolls around?

>> No.16638287

>now HanaKana was sold out because she fucked a guy already
boatslut voiced by HanaKana when?

>> No.16638288

>>16638281
I don't know either, I'm into NTR so I enjoyed it.

>> No.16638289

What's the game dev reasoning for including the Fatigue feature?

It timelocks gameplay for no reason.

>> No.16638294

>>16638283
Were there actually any bugs this time around? This is after clearing the cache like the devs always tell you, by the way.

>> No.16638295

>>16638289
It's some form of compromise between this and "stamina". Fatigue works better in most cases.

>> No.16638298

>>16638208
Really? aw shuck.

>> No.16638302

>>16638289
Because they don't want their customers to grind the shit out of everything since day 1.

>> No.16638303

>>16638298
You can try farming node J. That's more worth it

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16638305

>>16638257

>> No.16638312

>>16638257
Nagi from Kannagi.

The author had a, uh, "subarachnoid hemorrhage", a life-threatening condition. It kinda influenced her work, and kinda influenced the insertion of a character whose existence put in doubt the virginity of the heroine-tree-carving-goddess. At least one otaku threw a tantrum, shredding his tanks into bits and posting the results at around the same time the author went on hiatus for her condition, making many believe that the backlash was what forced her into hiding.

Years later she came back to continue, but I don't really know how she's doing now. The series was mildly popular, with an anime and light novel adaptations.

>> No.16638315

>>16638294
If I clear my cache will Hitomi drop?

>> No.16638319

>>16638302
You'd need endless resources to do that, bud.

>> No.16638322

>>16638312
"I have a spider in my brain, so I'll put NTR in my series". Brilliant.

>> No.16638328
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16638328

Totally possible to sink the transport in day battle.

Engagement was doukousen by the way.

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16638331

Who no I-13 here?

>> No.16638334

>>16638315
>>16638294
It is a bug.
I swear my account is locked out of hitomi. I am going to sleep after my last S rank gave me another Kinu. Statistically at the 1% percentile for no hitomi. They better fixed the bug in my account 3months later.

>> No.16638342

>>16637897
What fleet are you using?

>> No.16638346

>>16638331
Regen fuel to 13, screencap and post here, then start spamming Orel, then try again. You'll get her the first A or S rank at the boss node after you get 2 S ranks there.

>> No.16638349

What do you do with a third Akashi? (Two are already enough for full crane repair)

>> No.16638354

>>16638289
It encourages using different girls or do you want a stamina bar, which is even more retarded mechanically?

>> No.16638357

>>16638349
Just farm her cranes anyway in case you need it for some future upgrade.

>> No.16638358

>>16638287
Did that actually happen?

>> No.16638365

>>16638331
Reporting for duty.

>> No.16638366

>>16638312

You read too much into it.

Also if you read the series, it isn't really too big of a deal she had a bf before the MC.

>> No.16638371

Wait, so if you put a sonar on your girls, they'd have hit the boss harder? Goddamn, why did no one tell me this a week ago, I might've actually gotten a kill or two during chipping.

>> No.16638373

>>16638349
Get enough to have 4 Akashi complete with cranes for that one repair situation that will probably never happen.

>> No.16638374

>>16638331
still trying with 10k resources

>> No.16638375

>>16638354
That was my original reason for using dupes. It's now changed to because of ship locking.

>> No.16638384

>>16638028
5-2 it is. Goodbye, baux, I'll miss ya.

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>>16638342

>> No.16638392

>>16638386
Any support or just route LBAS?

>> No.16638394
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>>16638358
Hanakana was no longer popular anyway and her career is going downhill. I think her agency announced in the press conference and nobody actually care.

>>16638371
Can easily do 1/3 of her HP bar with a 2torp 1sonar setup. Highest was 600+damage I think.

>> No.16638395

>>16638392

LBA on I.

>> No.16638404

>>16638371
>why did no one tell me this a week ago
Because it wasn't known yet and/or you didn't check the right places.

>> No.16638406

>>16638373
I guess it's alright if you have max resources, 20 lightly damaged ships, and busy docks.

>> No.16638407
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16638407

Nice.

>> No.16638413

>>16638394
>Hanakana was no longer popular anyway
Maybe with a 2ch clique or on 4chan. Search google for up to date 人気声優 lists, she's consistently top 2 if not top 1.

>> No.16638415

>>16638394
>>16638404
Well, it's too late now. I don't have any business left with E-3 anyways.

>> No.16638447

>>16638413

There was once most of the main characters from almost all of the popular anime that season was voiced by Kana Hanazawa. It kinda irked me. Her voice is nothing special so I don't get why people like her.

>> No.16638455

Holy Fuck, I'm low on resources and almost lost my hope in ranking. But I just realized I haven't cleared 4-5 yet. Any easy peasy meta for last dance?

>> No.16638459

>>16638455
CA/BBV/CA/CA/CV/CV
Sanshiki on CAs, AP shell on BBV, AS at boss, no need for saiun.

>> No.16638468

>>16638447
She was only popular as the seiyuu that voice loser girls and renai circulation.
I bet she wouldn't be that popular if they didn't remix that song until kingdom come

>> No.16638469

>>16638459

Why BBV instead of fBB?

>> No.16638476

>>16638469
Zuiun gives extra fighter power. If you don't have Fusou-class however bring your best BB. But there's no need for a fast one for 4-5.

>> No.16638482

>>16638459
Not AS+? Better concentrate on bombardment?

>> No.16638488

>>16638468
>the seiyuu that voice loser girls and renai circulation.

She voiced Nadeko? Jesus fuck now I get why she is popular. Seriously there is nothing special about the voice acting, but I admit that the song is quite catchy.

>> No.16638505

>>16638482
Yes. AS at the boss is enough.

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>>16637115
>>16637955
Yo, thanks for this. Now I can sparkle on phone. fucking finally.

>> No.16638512

>>16638488
Yeah, Renai Crunkulation is the best.

>> No.16638514

>>16638476

I can achieve AS normally without the help of Zuiun.

>> No.16638519

>>16638514
Go with whatever BB(V) you want then.

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>> No.16638539

That's it for me, ran out of resources, didn't find Hitomi. I guess the two will have to meet some other time. Whenever that may be.

>> No.16638552

>76 victories at 5-4 boss from 14:00 to 02:00
89 points adrift of top 100 as of 14:00. Wonder if it'll be enough to catch up.

>> No.16638573

>>16636108
ur

>> No.16638579

>>16638538
Cheek massage is a nice touch.

>> No.16638608

>>16638538

Looking very cute. Can't wait for pyon.

>> No.16638626

should i give up hitomi now?
only 6k left

>> No.16638635

>>16638626
Sortie to the last resource.

>> No.16638636

>>16638626
Keep goingl you are dry.

>> No.16638647

>>16638626

What's stoping you from trying until the end?

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>>16637950
I want that DD to squeeze my D.

>> No.16638657

>>16638626
Yes, she deserves to suffer out there.

>> No.16638658

>>16638023
2-5

>> No.16638661

>>16638653
She should put some pants on or she might catch a cold.

>> No.16638677

Well I managed to get all four new ships, and I still got a bunch of resources left over and want to go for Taihou and Bismarck.

I think 5000/6000/7000/3000 is good for Bismarck but what is the best for Taihou?

>> No.16638687

>>16638677
4/2/5/5.2

>> No.16638688
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>no internet
>have to use mobile
>any slight signal loss = instant catbomb
>less than 10 hours left
This is true hard mode.

>> No.16638691

Is E-3 Medium still possible at this point? I've got about 20k resources across the board.

>> No.16638692

>>16638677
Post resources.

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>>16638677

>> No.16638698

>>16638691
yes i use about 15k to clear it

>> No.16638699

>>16638658
5-2 is easier.

>> No.16638700

>>16638691
Should be. I cleared Hard with only a bit more.

>> No.16638701

>>16638626

Why would you give up at the very last moment when there is nothing else to lose?

If you give up now you will regret it forever. Just go for it until everything is 0.

>> No.16638702

>>16638691
I cleared hard with less than that. It depends on your ships and equipment, really.

>> No.16638703

>>16638699
5-2 is harder and more expensive.

>> No.16638708

>>16638687
>>16638694
Thank you.

>>16638687
230K fuel
260K ammo
270K steel
250K bauxite

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16638711

I did it /jp/! I finally did it!
Turns out she ended up being the ship which knocks me into a paywall. If I don't buy more slots, I'll never be able to do events ever again, haha!
I'm gonna kill myself.

Good bye /jp/.

>> No.16638716

>>16638711
Turn on anti-aliasing.

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16638717

>>16638688
Cutest Yuu.
Good luck Yuu.

>> No.16638720

>>16638711
>which knocks me into a paywall


Just pay up. This is the best game to sink your money because its payment system is actually fair.

>> No.16638724

>>16638720
>$7 for 10 screws
>fair

It should be 20 screws for that much.

>> No.16638727

>>16638711
Nice. She was the ship that brought me to 4 slots too.
So I bought and now hopefully her loser sister will turn up so she won't have to NEET alone in the corner of the base.

>> No.16638728

>>16638717
I want the "won't drop no matter what" goddess to stay silent untill she actually drops.

>> No.16638729

>>16638703
Nope. 5-2 is 3CV, CVL and 3BB. Chances of getting to boss and wrecking her ass - 120%.
2-5 is some shitty setup of flimsy CAs and DDs, which can't get past the first two nodes most of the time.

>> No.16638732

>>16638724
u dun pay for screws

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