エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

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Previous thread: >>16438425

This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

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Also, I don't get whay they replaced Open Combat(which sounds cool) with enGAYge.
That triggers me.

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>>16468886
and the enemy numbers are pretty low for the most part, or that's maybe because I've been playing on the defaul difficulty

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>>16468936
I dunno man. I sweated pretty hard during the trap assault on Squal. There were about 500 enemies divided by 6 people so like 100 enemies per capita? Yeah, I crushed that much there. Spent 2 hours replaying it. Shit was hard. Maxed all my eqipped weapons. I think そのまま I'll probably max all my weapons before the last route.

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>>16468948
So I should really get that patch to raise the difficulty. On the whole Sakura route I never encountered such a thing and the last boss took me about 2 minutes. However I did get stuck on a few places for 40-50 minutes but that's just because I'm not that good at action games and I can never tell when I need to conserve health.

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>>16468969
Gambare!

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I'm not very good at reading but I'll do my best today!

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>>16469053
i want those hair ties

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What do you guys use to read your VNs?
Yesterday my XP machine finally broke down and I'm wondering what to do. My other computer only has 2GB of RAM, and I don't know if that's enough for a XP VM. Does anyone here have any experience with reading VNs on a Windows tablet?

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>>16469211
2gb should be enough.

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>>16469211
mediocre spec laptop, because curled up and tucked into bed is the only proper way to read porn powerpoints.

so long as you're not doing super new or flashy stuff it should probably be fine.

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>>16468825

Just started Daitoshokan as my first August VN. A bit bad of a timing being release-week now, but my graphics-card broke and.. yeah. First ingame-day was fun.

Aside of that, gameplay-wise I'm playing Gears of Dragoon 2. I like the gameplay, for the most part. (the engine is kinda crappy and not very responsive though)
The story is unfortunately even worse than typical Eushully stuff, which is quite an achievement. I'm not even really reading any main-story anymore since mid chapter1 or something. Silly excuse to send you to dungeons in the form of an insanely typical and clichéd fantasy story, which for whatever reason has all the typical shitty moege/nukige clichés for the girls you can think of at all the wrong times. It's so.. clashing. Incompatible. Only good thing is, it's not too story-heavy I suppose.
Also some of the art is insanely wonky. That main-girl's sprite's torso is as big as one of her legs. Someone overdid the "hips" idea..

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Decided to drop Shinsou Noise after reading that review in the pastebin last thread. If there is a kind soul out there who finished it and wouldn't mind summarizing chapters 4-6 for me so I can get some sense of closure out of it, I would greatly appreciate it.

I stopped reading at the first popsicle CG after the chief's infodump, pic related. From then on I ctrl'd through the rest of the game just to get an outline of what happened. From what I gather, you meet some more psychics, Momo gets raped for some reason, then you solve some mystery with the psychics, ending chapter 4. Then chapter 5 looks like a real bore with all the drama club stuff that seems disconnected from the main story. Then chapter 6 looks more interesting but whatever. Apparently Kazama did the murder of Sakura but was manipulated into it with some sort of power. Momo is locked in a box by someone. Final boss seems to be the guy with long white hair. If anyone can fill in the cracks in what I gathered from skipping through the rest it would help me out a lot.

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>>16469474
I'm glad that kuso artist only plagues bad games.

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>>16469480

I know there was a feud about this a few months ago as well but I don't know what you're on, anon. The #1 reason I got this far was the art which is absolutely beautiful. Especially some of the ero CGs, which are just on a totally different level than most stuff out there.

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>>16469496
>which are just on a totally different level than most stuff out there
I don't know about other people who complain about hamashima's art, but my main issue with it is that it's too different from the kind that I like to see in eroge.

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>>16469496
The MC actually looks fine, he can't draw heroines though.

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>>16469502

We have a different idea about what nice heroine art is then. Hot damn. (nsfw, no ban please)

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>>16469502
>he
Shigeo is a girl

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Did anyone read Sora no Tsukurikata? I don't remember many posts about it.

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>>16469613
Apparently it's a below average charage. Too bad, the art was really great.

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>>16469624

The opening (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyPvF8j9oew)) was great too which is why I got interested in the first place. Shame to hear it's not too great.

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>>16469303
You talk like an old textbook.

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>>16469303
I don't think you talk like an old textbook, and I think that is a rather strange comparison to make.

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Arbitrarily putting hyphens all over the place is an old practice. And you could always quote me directly.

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Is 失われた未来を求めて one of those fap and forget vns?

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>>16470182
yes

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>>16470182
Yup.

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This is a long shot but does anyone have the script from project dawn?

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130507093231/http://dailystarstudios.forumotion.com:80/

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Good point about the hyphens, anon. I actually didn't notice them at all, I read right over them as if they weren't there and thought you were referencing some other part of his speech.

Also, I'm trying out not directly quoting people on 4chan as a type of performance art. I may not be appreciated during my lifetime but I will make it big postmortem.

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How do you calculate script sizes? "1 MB" doesn't mean much to me because that can change depending on whether there are blank lines in between each line, what format the file is in, whether it is compressed or uncompressed, etc.

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>>16470551
Character count with tags and blank lines omitted.

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>>16470620

So I looked on the TLwiki page for script sizes and they said all script sizes were calculated in SJIS rather than UTF-8. So I take this script that I had saved in notepad++ and hit Shift-JIS under the character set tab and the entire script gets corrupted into garbled nonsense. Any ideas of what to do?

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>>16470676
Take the character count. Each one is two bytes in sjis.

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>>16470688

At a rate of 1,048,576 bytes per MB or 1,000,000 bytes per MB? I'd assume the former but I'm not sure.

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>>16470551
This isn't really that much better off a measure than recorded play-times on EGS, since some VNs have KBs of ああああああああぁぁぁぁぁぁぁああああああああ！！！ and some VNs are like 相対性理論は特殊相対性理論と一般相対性理論の総称である。量子論に対し古典論に分類される物理の分野としては、物理史的には最後の「大物」であった。

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>>16469211
My friend has a Dell Venue 8 Pro (2GB RAM) and he can read VNs just fine with it.

I myself have read some VNs on a Surface Pro 2. Generally speaking it's great until you need to use dictionary because typing on a tablet is a hassle. I highly recommend you use a text hooker in case you need to look up words.

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>>16469211
Pfff. Been reading vns on my 2gb ram pc for like forever. Even stuff like Baldr heart/Baldr sky zero runs just fine.

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How much longer until we get Rance 04 or 10?

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>>16471074

Said they wanted to get Rance X out this year, so let's hope.

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>>16470688

Anyway, thank you for the info. I didn't have a great frame of reference.

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>>16393713
I didn't read this post at the time because spoilers, so sorry for the late response.

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>>16471567
覚えてくれてありがとう；＿；

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>>16469613
>>16469624
Its definitely not below average, or at least imo. Also it has 80 score at EGS as well so I'm not really sure what made you think like that.

Anyway the common route (its the longest part of the game because it uses the Aiyoku no Eustia type route system) is pretty nice, have an comedic adventure type atmosphere in it. Nice humor & Adult protag who has a nice personality & Unique and very likable heroines with good VAs & Ost and Art were its other good points. The only bad part of the game is heroine routes other than Kris; and its not like there's something specially bad going on, it just becomes the average sex sex sex > some event > ending type thing. I'd definitely suggest it if you are fine with not being a deep plot game.

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>>16470182
Soo, not that guy but should I read it after all?

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>>16470130
>>16470141

Damn.

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This bitch's voice and expressions suck
She's trying incredibly hard to maintain a refined tone even when doing non-neutral expressions and ends up being sterile and fake as fuck

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>>16472272
She makes me sterile that's for sure.

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Shit I just realized that Gi is the first one, not shoku, which means no Yue for two more fucking years. Also probably there wont be a sequel or FD of Sengoku Koihime since they already announced their next three years plan, Seriously what the fuck baseson.

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>>16468886
JOP, would you mind taking this http://my.vocabularysize.com test, please?

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>>16472596
>Also probably there wont be a sequel or FD of Sengoku Koihime

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What encoding do you use in notepad to get a good estimate of text size? ANSI or UTF-8? I noticed the kb numbers are bigger with the latter.

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>>16472683
I'm with you there dude. I need my dose of ninjas.

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Anyone playing the full version of Hinos game that comes out tomorrow?

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Anyone read a good futage recently?

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Similarly to the "best girl never wins" debacle in every manga, it seems that no matter what girl you like most in a VN, she's going to be the one that gets less development and scenes.

I like everyone, but damnit, I'm playing this for Luna
Let me be with her, if I'm supposed to be her maid why am I constantly with everyone BUT her?

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Natsuiro Kokorolog or Puramai Wars

Which moege should I choose?

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>>16471074
They're not even working on Rance 04 t the moment

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>>16472811
Wars

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>>16472811
Neither, both suck.

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>>16472811
daitoshokan

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>>16472828
onee-chan is best right? I mean look at her scolding those rotten sluts

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>>16472833
I think moege should be light and fun not drama and psychological problems but I never got far in Daitoshokan because it felt too heavy to me.

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>>16472879
Why not far? It had some heavy stuff but not too early on. Unless, no offense, you're extremely sensitive to what's heavy.

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>>16472885
When I got into the character introductions I was pretty certain it was going to drag me through the mud awhile. That was a lot of exposition for the library and what the protagonist was there for.

Then I read a couple reviews (no spoilers) and was all, 'pass'.

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>>16472994

I don't know how far you were, but I just started it yesterday and have quite a bit of fun myself. The whole cast seems pretty likable and the writing isn't crappy either. Heck, the girls seem like characters and I'd feel kinda bad to just attribute archtypes to them and call it a day. Basically, as far as moege goes, this seems to be pretty far up, judging solely from the first few hours.
My only personal issue is, that I kinda started "shipping" one of the heroines with the best friend, and that's kinda like setting yourself up for disappointment. But on the other hand that also means this VN is actually letting characters interact with other characters as well and let them build relationships which in turn makes the cast more in-depth. Surprisingly often the characters speak to and form bonds mainly with the MC (who's then often a wall and everything collapses). Oh and speaking of the MC, he seems to be also not too bad, comparatively speaking. Finally, the voices are pretty well done as well, above average for sure.

Well, I'm sure taste is also a thing with this VN and I don't want to praise it too much yet, seeing how I have only read maybe 10% of it so far.

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>>16472842

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Easy mode or normal mode? Which do I choose?

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>>16473381
Hard mode

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>>16473384
That's not an option you silly silly boy

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>>16472732
By the way I have almost all of those p-channel arts.

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>>16473113
I don't doubt that it's good, I doubt that it's a moege.

That's all

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>>16473520
Well it is one. You're just a very special person.

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>>16473520
That guy just bullied you with "you're a special person" so to be clear in a friendly way,
it's definitely a moege, no one gets raped, the vast bulk of the game is raburabu romance and gentle humour, it doesn't break any moege rules.
I think there's a misconception that moege is "no darkness", when in reality moege is "no darkness that threatens the chastity of the heroines and no plot that overwhelms the romance". As far as I would say, daitoshokan fits both of those requirements. Romance is still #1 and the heroins are all chaste.

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>>16473624

Moege is also about atmosphere. For example I wouldn't really call something like Hapymaher a moege. Psychological problems of the protag and stuff.

Daitoshokan feels definitely like a moege, from the beginning at the very least. Changes, to an extend, are very valid though. If that's good, that's a different story, but it's possible. Hoshimemo has at least a route which is rather lacking in romance and is mostly about existential crisis. The girl has sex the first time to "feel alive, as it hurst" and the protagonist has mostly the role of someone who looks over things rather than do anything.. as it's not much he can do anything about. Actually super replaceable, he was just there at the right time to become someone who gives a bit of mental support. I'd actually argue that wasn't a moege route at all, even though the game itself is a moege. It's rare though and even if it happens, other routes are usually not like that.

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I'm enjoying this but why does it take forever to play the best girl route?

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>>16473687
Because it's a plotge with a true end, not an aimless moege.

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>>16473682
>Moege is also about atmosphere. For example I wouldn't really call something like Hapymaher a moege. Psychological problems of the protag and stuff.
Yep, I definitely agree with this.

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I can't stop thinking about her.

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>>16473759
Wait, she actually eats a burger??

I might need to finish this.

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>>16473791
Yeah, she was so happy then.

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>>16473759
Is this the bully game? Does it actually have a happy ending where everyone stop bullying her or is it just mc?

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>>16473835
Yes it's about bullying. There is a happy end that is really rewarding if you can endure the abuse.

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>>16473835

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>>16473849
I guess its worth of trying then, I'll get it after this month's releases, thank you.

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>>16473903
It's a classic, and the story is pretty solid too. Keep in mind though that the bullying is quite extreme at times, and the protagonist is not your average nice guy. It takes a while for him to grow fond of Honoka even if you go for the good route. She will receive a lot of abuse in any case.

But very rewarding end. I will never forget when the ED started playing.

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>>16473759
I want another game like this. It's pretty much unique in terms of eroge as far as I know.

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>>16473964
>It's a classic
lol

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I don't understand.
It's a trap game.
All of the charm of the personal interactions was being 'one of the girls', the stress of not getting outed, being constantly treated like a girl, and getting to interact as one.
And, presumably, it'd end in a heart-rending reveal moment when either you have to get a love confession from a girl, and you get to tell her you have a dick, or a sentimental "I love you, but there's something you need to know" bit.

So why
just WHY would you plan an incident that reveals your identity to one of the main girls, 2 hours into a 12 hours game?
Not only that, a girl whose character development was 90% centered on talking to you about your alter ego?

I was actually surprised to see someone making a trap game that didn't revolve around being dicked every 5 seconds, but I didn't expect a bait and switch of this caliber.
I just wanted to play as a trap, not a crossdresser, god fucking damnit

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>>16474247
>All of the charm of the personal interactions was being 'one of the girls', the stress of not getting outed, being constantly treated like a girl, and getting to interact as one.
Says who? This is all in your head. I like the way Tsuriotsu did it.

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>>16474272

Well, of course I'm talking about what I personally enjoyed.
It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It's already rare to have a trap protagonist, even rarer for every character not to know the main character's real gender, and EVEN RARER (to the point that I don't think any even exist) for the game to have an actual plot that's not just "and then the trap got dicked, like, a billion times".

It just felt like such a waste to throw everything unique the route had to waste the "repetition of childhood trauma" so soon into the game.
It would've been great as a route-ending reveal scene, but this?

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>>16473964
The game doesn't have skip read text, does it? I got the shitty end and didn't want to have to reread the whole VN again so I never got that rewarding ending.

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>>16474247

Well, I do agree that most of the trap thing loses its appeal when people know it anyway. But, let's put it bluntly here: It doesn't matter. There are 4 heroines. The only two girls' routes worth doing don't know about this until late. This event here actually matters less than you might think, though it enables a bit of.. necessary support at a few times. Still, it should be fine. Heck Luna's route goes far enough that Luna seriously starts considering where you can marry another girl and such things, to the point, some may get uncomfortable with the whole thing. (be it because it's dragging the reveal out, or because it just feels even more fake-yuri than most other trap games)

To a point you gotta understand that being a trap without anyone knowing or supporting in any kind is pretty damn hard. So I generally can accept it if there's one person who knows. For the most part this is the person who "made" the guy crossdress in the first place (i.e. Otome Domain), but given that Risona or whatever her name was is not a heroine in this game.. I suppose another one had to fill in.

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Is there any good eroge with a female MC that aren't just the usual trash?

What I'm looking for is a nice amount of normal daily life activities, supported by routes and eventually sex, but with an emphasis on an actual plot and relationship moreso than either empty sex or shoujo stereotypes.
Maybe yuri routes might help, even if there's just one, if anything because it means the story wasn't written as a fujo-oriented piece.

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>>16474617
>aren't just the usual trash?
>What I'm looking for is a nice amount of normal daily life activities, supported by routes and eventually sex

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>>16474628

Maybe I've only had horrible luck, but the female MC games I've played have had a series of problems, consistent enough across the board to make me believe it's a problem with the genre itself.

For starters, no characters exist aside the males you're supposed to fuck. As soon as you enter someone's route, everyone but them disappears, and all of the story is basically just "Meet x -> Have pretext for character development -> emotional scene, maybe h-scene -> Repeat until ending"

Another sign of a bad game is that the MC has absolutely no friends or people she speaks to for any meaningful amount of time, aside for the 3-4 guys she can choose to bang.

I'm basically looking for a SoL VN that also happens to have the possibility of sex in it, in which the characters you didn't choose to fuck don't just become irrelevant unspeaking fixtures.

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>>16474641
Wait, are you talking about otome games? Do you know that those are called otome games? Are you looking for an otome game?

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>>16474652

I know what they're called, I just thought it was obvious since I mentioned a female mc and male love interests.
But a game that's marketed as otome usually has all the pitfalls I'm trying to avoid.

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>>16474617
>>16474641
No, I have played a lot of otome games hoping to find something good but no luck. Most of them have shoddy writing, and have pretty much the same cookie cutter characters with different hairstyles and names (they also shift around the same 10 or so popular VAs unless you're playing doujin games). Before you say, "it's just like regular eroge/gyarge", eroge/gyaru has many outstanding titles among the mediocre ones, but with otome everything seems to be either mediocre or extremely terrible.

Also I don't think it's just me not being part of the demographic, since I have played two or three BL games that were comparable to quality writing you would find in eroge.

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>>16474792

It's amazing how trap and TSF games do a much better job than games made for actual girls at giving you a story from the girl's perspective.

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>>16474799
I thought those types of games were just about getting dicked endlessly.

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>>16474812

Most are, but the few that aren't actually deliver an interesting female perspective much more than otome games could ever hope to do.

One of the newer X-change ones, for example, despite carrying the name of a series that's all about the dick, has most of the game completely lewd-free, and most of the game is dedicated to learning how whoever you switched with lives.

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>>16474818
Well if you think about games from a male perspective don't really tell you much about being male either. For the most part both genres are just focused on the characters with routes.

https://vndb.org/v817
Is this the game you were talking about?

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>>16474860

Yeah, that's the game.
And I don't mean that the game has to hammer it in that you're a girl, it's just that very few games are actually written from the perspective of an actual character, instead of an empty hull.

In 99% of games, for both genders, the MC is an empty shell devoid of any personality, without any hobbies, passions or skills, whose daily interactions are strictly limited to 3-4 people, all of which disappear halfway through, with the exception of the one they chose to fuck.
No diversity of characters, no supporting cast that's not there just to be fucked, no engaging daily routine that reads like anything more than an excuse for a "route" to happen.

I know it sounds cliched, but I can't help but think that this is because the writers are shut-ins who are just writing by emulation of other works of similar quality.
Maybe they can't write a credible engaging daily life because they never experienced one, let alone a female one.

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>>16474894
>I know it sounds cliched, but I can't help but think that this is because the writers are shut-ins who are just writing by emulation of other works of similar quality.
Maybe they can't write a credible engaging daily life because they never experienced one, let alone a female one.
Tomino might not be correct about everything he does but that one rant of his about "a copy of a copy of a copy will eventually degrade into nothing" was spot on.

Right now, the people writing most anime/LNs/eroge are at the age where they grew up watching/reading them instead of interacting with other human beings. So all they have to base their characters off are the usual shallow archetypes. And then the next generation will do the same of these shallow copies until you get something so far removed from actual human behavior that, well, there's nothing.

Regardless of how you feel about 3D people, your characters still need to act like human beings.

but yeah I'm not saying anything new or controversial here.

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So the new releases for January come out today I think. Anything worth checking out? The only ones im keeping an eye on are probably ラムネ2 and that low price game from azarashi soft.

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>>16473624
>>16473682
I can agree with both of you. You've convinced me. I'll give Daitoshokan another shot.

I don't just play moege anyway, it's just what I primarily look for and enjoy (my favorite incidentally is still Magical Charming) Thanks to both of you for giving me the time of your responses.

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>>16474995
キミの瞳にヒットミー is ultimate mediocre moege

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>>16474995
Probably silverio trinity but thats it. Pretty slow month to be honest.

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>>16474995
I'm looking forward to Lamune as well, the system sounded interesting enough for a playthrough. Also im a sucker for countryside settings.

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>>16473113
That one? She has even better chemistry with Kakei so there's nothing to be disappointed about.

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I know there are people here who don't like danganronpa, fuck I don't like most of the shit and I want most of the characters to die, the anime and the spin off were also garbage.

However the end game mysteries and a probably a couple of the characters are so well done I almost forget that sometimes.

Particularly 王馬 in the new game, he's so well done. Throughout the whole game you don't know what he's thinking, he constantly lies and you don't know if he'd even lie about about his sanity, his way of thinking, his whole reasoning almost anything. Even when the game is over you don't know if he was good or bad if it all an act or he was genuine you don't know shit. He also breaks the game creating situations where the truth and lie can't be distinguished.
He goes into the nature of lying how a lie can be infinite that differs from the single truth, why as humans we lie, the very essence of lying.
Even the so called big bad calls him sick and disgusting its amazing.

Him and Nagito are so well written I'm disappointed they couldn't be in a better game.

I'm so sad people will look at danganronpa and only avoid it because of most of its flaws and most of its autistic fan base.

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anything good with elf vanilla?

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>>16468825
>"and then the trap got dicked, like, a billion times".

I can only think of a couple games where the trap protagonist gets dicked. Usually he dicks a billion girls, like any other nukige.

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With how ungodly popular traps are at the moment, why aren't there more VNs coming out with them?

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>>16475505
What is the actual point of traps over dickgirls or actual yuri/yaoi?

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>>16475505
Otome domain is popular and it's recent

Everybody says the mc is the best girl(male)

Also I love the hair styles I think they have the best hair styles with their twists and turns in in any eroge I've ever played.

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I get not liking a game sure maybe you might be annoyed by it for some reason.

But how fucking assblasted do you have to be to give a 0 score to a game?

I mean just by getting it running and qualifying as eroge it should at least get a 1.
Are these Japanese shills?

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>>16475804
Getting a score of 0 is easy: just put something sorta vaguely resembling the possibility of NTR in your moege.

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>>16475857
For White album 2 most people seem to give it 90s and 100s but also and the occasional 0. I mean it doesn't affect the score that much since it has tons of high scores but hurts most average eroge or lesser known ones. I'm talking about decent eroge or good eroge that get moved to an average or passable score because a tiny amount of people put a 0.

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>>16475925
This is just a problem with using the raw mean for your average scores, when one 0 score counts the same as 5 100s. They should really perform some form of outlier recognition.

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>>16476005
That's why medians exist.

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>>16474995
I'm only playing Heartful Maman because I'm a filthy cuck.

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>>16475335
I just got past the chapter 2 trial and am already kind of bored. Hope it gets better soon.

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>>16476049
Next is chapter 3 and you know what that means.

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I'm trying to find an eroge heroine who is a rabid shrieking fangirl of the protagonist. Can anyone help me in my quest?

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>>16475925
That's not a big deal since WA2 is overrated so it helps balance it out. 90s or 100 for that game is crazy.

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>>16476366
>people like something i don't
>must be overhyped

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>>16475189

No, the ponytail girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16476450
Her route actually explains a bit of their relationship and why they aren't like that.

[Anonymous No.]

今月の買う人おるんかいな情報

PlayDRM
不運と幸運と恋占いのタロット　DL版つき
らぶらぶシスターズ　DL版なし

PlayDRMらしい？
魔物娘の育て方　

DMM
月影のシミュラクル
緋のない所に烟は立たない

Alpha-ROM
キミの瞳にヒットミー

[Anonymous No.]

Some twitter guys haul. I guess these are the only somewhat interesting titles this month.

Most interested in the Hino game myself, but might give Lamune 2 or Hoshikoi a shot for fun if they get good reviews.

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>>16475804

Considering the abysmal quality of most eroge, it doesn't surprise me at all.
Especially if you take into account that people spend their money to play these things, and finding out that the thing you paid money for is another cut-and-paste snoozefest might be enough to enrage you into voting 0.

Rather, I'm surprised at how high the typical eroge's score is, considering that most of them feature almost no effort in the writing department.

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>>16476779
>considering that most of them feature almost no effort in the writing department
That's because the overwhelming majority of customers has no interest in writing.

[Anonymous No.]

who here /plotgemasterrace/?

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>>16476785

Aren't you thinking of nukige?

But still, it doesn't change that these games can be really expensive (the AAA ones at least), and getting anything less than perfection in the porn department may make the customer feel like they were ripped off.

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>>16476798
>Aren't you thinking of nukige?
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16476116
Leyline

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>>16469211
I was using Linux for 6 months until I started missing my VNs and installed W10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16476794
what is plot

[Anonymous No.]

This MC actually feels creepy here and there but I bet there's not going to be any out of the ordinary twist about him hiding something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16477137
Well it wouldn't be a plot twist cause there's a whole game about his past

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>>16477186
Oh snap I'm retarded, guess I'll go with that first anon thanks

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>>16477237
No worries, I don't believe it was even confirmed they were sequel and prequel until after the game came out meaning they weren't concerned with people playing in the "wrong" order.
Just a heads up, the prequel is pretty guro and nukige-ish but Ryuukishi is more of a relaxed moe harem for the most part, so don't get turned away by that.

[Anonymous No.]

is it just me or is eroge progressively getting worse every year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16477245

It's different authors. For what it's worth, you should probably not connect them. Someone just had the grand idea to do this "relation" for whatever reason. Perhaps someone who hopes the company burns down or something.

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>>16477272
The scenarist for the prequel was involved with the sequel as a planner, and the sequel has some pretty thick allusions to his past, so yeah. It's not like there's any deep literary meaning connecting the two characters but there's no harm in reading the prequel first.

[Anonymous No.]

How is あかね色に染まる坂?

[Anonymous No.]

What if they make a Ryuukishi sequel where Roy gets his gals NTR'd, raped, all the jazz all over again? I would pay to see that.

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>>16477807
I don't want to see Lilina raped.

[Anonymous No.]

2DGF or girlcelly?
What's that 差分ファイル thing in the GF one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16477807
Akabei would probably need to give out another free game in that case.

>>16477427
It's decent, but due to its age it's kind of rough around the edges, and the difference between the artists used can be kind of jarring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16477978
>差分ファイル Ver1.01
Consider thinkining about it. Start for example by learning what 差分 means.

[Anonymous No.]

Silverio Vendetta is out on nyaa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16478215
>Vendetta
Trinity, of course. My mistake.

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>>16478215
>>16478219
>chuunishit

Who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16478308
It's possible to enjoy both moege and chuunige.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16478319
Don't touch me disgusting moebuta.

[Anonymous No.]

anybody play it yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Trial for that new Minori tittyge is up.
DL link if you don't want to deal with using a proxy: https://mega.nz/#!f8Z1ADSA!Zj6erq1wTQlQwlYm6axuesEGykj5H-Vp6NQkrMXn92g

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>>16478400
Cool. Not gonna try it because fuck trials but minori is interesting to watch. I hope it's as good as soreyori again and not another tsuminohi.

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>>16476394
>people dislike something I like and give it a low score
>must be assblasted

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>>16478400
Minori's self-proclaimed EOP Pander: The Game?

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>>16478319
I only play games with actual story since I have taste.

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>>16478450

Me too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16476052
>>16476049
It gets amazing at chapter 5 you don't know who was killed or the murderer is. the rest of the game is abysmal with some high points.

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>>16478567
Basically if there are two people one could be the murderer and the other by default is the victim and the other way could be true. The thing is you don't know which is who and throughout most of the trial it basically leans towards one side. However it's so suspicious that you keep going.
And probably the coolest bit is this is that not even the mastermind knows who the killer is so he joins your side to find out.

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>>16477245
>Just a heads up, the prequel is pretty guro and nukige-ish
Wow, you weren't kidding. Not the anon you replied to, but I decided to check the game out of curiosity.

Literally the second scene is the protagonist's father getting beheaded, her mother getting knifed in the eye and being raped, then she's shown her husband's decapitated head while being raped and after they're done the bandits finally stick that same head in her cum-drenched pussy before killing her as well. Then the protagonist's sister gets gang raped, followed by the protagonist getting raped. Then after raping and killing some random village girls (including things like sticking a torch in a girl's pussy and accidentally snapping another little girl's neck but continuing to fuck the still warm body nonetheless), the bandits brutally torture the protagonist's sister to death while two other random girls who had their teeth removed service the main villain who is enjoying the show, and after it is over they get killed as well. Finally the protagonist meets the main villains' daughter, who is also used as a fucktoy by their men and her introduction CG is her trying to clean the fresh dripping cum out of her pussy. And this is only the start of the game.

I'm not complaining because this stuff's pretty great, but now I really want to know what the devs were thinking when deciding that this game should be a prequel to their harem moege.

>>16477807
I'd be throwing money at the screen if there existed a dark / corruption remake of something like Twinkle Crusaders, I mean some H-scenes in the fan disc already bordered on some pretty fetishistic stuff. This type of trend should be popularized.

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>>16478816
>the bandits finally stick that same head in her cum-drenched pussy before killing her as well
decency and sanity and such aside, is that physically and/or anatomically possible?

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>>16478824
Sorry, I misphrased it. They don't actually stick the whole decapitated head inside, just push the face on the cum dripping pussy while joking about how the dead husband is licking their cum off her wife's pussy.

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>>16478824
>is that physically and/or anatomically possible?
absolutely, but there are likely to be consequences

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>>16478836
ah i see

couldn't help but expect your original post to end with the bandits jumping out en masse and saying "We're the Aristocrats!" but i guess just cause it ain't my type of thing doesn't mean it's not someone else's

>>16478863
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

How long does City of Stairs need to get good?

[Anonymous No.]

Still waiting for Getsuei no Simulacra.

[Anonymous No.]

So the people who played あざらしそふと other games, how is the are the routes usually? Is it mostly H-scenes or is there actual build-up (first date -> maybe first kiss a couple dates after -> then sex) or is the typical fuck after they kiss for the first time.

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>>16479523
Actually damn I should've looked closer at the site for アイカギ. 7 H-scenes for a short game. It's probably not worth playing but I guess I'll try it any way on the off-chance it'll be good. I mean they can't fuck up with one heroine, right.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone here have severe fremdschamen while reading certain scenes in visual novels? At certain scenes where something embarrassing is going to happen I have to minimize the window and go do something else for a while to work up the courage to click to the next line.

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>>16479749
This is an English-language board.

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>>16479794

It's a legitimate loan word, I swear! It's a necessary counterpart to "schadenfreude" because "vicarious embarrassment" is clumsy to say and "cringe" is a term of ill repute among many anons including myself due to the way it has been treated in recent years.

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>>16479749
nein du bist der einzige

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>>16479834
"Secondhand embarrassment" is the term we normally use in English.

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>>16479834

Bratwurst. Kindergarten. Yeah!

Well Japan does that all the time as well.

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>>16478319
I enjoy plotge and moege but chuuni is something I've outgrown for ages.

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>>16479907
Chuuni is the same kind of popcorn as moege. Cute girls doing fake cute things, cool guys doing fake cool things. You can't really "outgrow" one without the other - it's just preferring one thing over the other.

Kind of like saying you've "outgrown" disliking a food, when really its just your tastes changing.

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>>16479907
Are there even any good chuunige other than Dies Irae? Most chuuni shit is dumb as hell, pretty much by definition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16479938
Mushi no Me

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>>16479541
It literally starts with a sex scene so take that as you will. That being said I would definitely recommend the amakano games if you want a game with lots of ichaicha.

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>>16480085
Its not so much a scene but more of a "so you're probably wondering how I got into this situation, well it all started..." kind of opening and an hcg plastered on.

[Anonymous No.]

Did you guys already know Japanese when you started playing eroge, or did you get into the medium through translations? If the latter:
1) Have you re-read your gateway games in Japanese?
2) Do you regret "spoiling" games for yourself by reading shitty translations?

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>>16480134
1) Yes, the difference is pretty shocking, I look at older translations with a baffled expression cause I don't know how I read them without alarm bells dinging about how off they are in quality.
2) Not really, I forget so many details as time passes the only thing that's really spoiled is the plot details, but there aren't many VNs that rely on plot details to be good so that has little impact. I guess the main one I regret is Fate Stay Night, if only because it's hard to justify dumping 70-whatever hours into one VN twice. But that's just one out of 20, 30 some.

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>>16480134
This should really go in /DJT/. Anyways I don't regret reading localized works. Ace Attorney was great in both languages.

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>>16480163
It's about VNs, not the process or act of learning Japanese though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16480176
Not him, and I don't mind either way, but this is the kind of long self-contained topic that could probably go into it's own thread.

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>>16480134
I got into vns through watching anime like あかね色に染まる坂　and 星空へ架かる橋. Found out what they were based on and went from there.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm confused so danganronpa 1 and 2 really did happen but the actual scenario and all that didn't exist it was a TV show.
But people really did kill each other. So all the characters died or lived on outside the show exist right?
Like when Saihara gets out the game he's like Naegi who also got out of the game. They both had their memories alteredto think that kibou taken exist and their talents and so on.
The only different is that Saihara thinks what happened to Naegi was real while it actually wasn't people died but it was a sick TV show.

If that's the case what the about the anime where everybody is brought back did nobody really die in 2?

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>>16480555
Fuck forgot spoiler

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>>16480511
How is akane iro? Is it worth the read? I remember enjoying the anime and thought it was funny but that might have been because I was young at the time.

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>>16480555
>>16480557
Can't delete...

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>>16480560
Funny enough I never really got around to playing akane iro but I have played through some routes of hoshizora. Im not sure if ill ever read through that game to be honest, I get the impression that its kind of outdated and most moege nowadays do what it does but better. Of course, that doesnt mean you still cant enjoy it. I played through Toheart2 last year just for Manaka's route and enjoyed immensely.

[Anonymous No.]

The more I think about it after the fact, the more I realize that Masaru was a ridiculously good eroge with a lot of lasting impact.

Is there anything else like Masaru worth checking out?

[Anonymous No.]

What are your thoughts on reading more than one VN at a time? Do you think it is a good idea to have multiple things to read for times when you don't feel like reading a certain one, or do you feel it lessens the experience and emotional attachment to each one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16480720
I personally don't do more than two because I just end up neglecting everything I've started.

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>>16480720
I generally read one that I'm generally interested in and a different one when I want to masturbate. A lot of times the ones that interest me just don't do it for me.

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>>16480720
Two is good, one moege/nukige and one plot-focused game. More than two is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16480720
One plot-focused game, one for casual reading (either moege or plot I care less about) and then an undefined amount of nukige based on what I'm feeling like.

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>>16480511
I remember being so excited finding out hoshizora was based on an anime same with akane iro but more for hoshizora as it was my favourite anime at the time.
Played the vn for the sex without knowing jap at the time though.

[Anonymous No.]

When's the first h-scene in Down the Rabbit Hole? I'm at the part where Yuki meets Kimika. I've heard Subahibi has some pretty crazy h, desu.

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>>16481079
You're still at the very beginning. The really crazy stuff doesn't start until Invention.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished new danganronpa v3
It was okay in the beginning but went downhill and was pretty terrible for most of it then suddenly the last two chapters takes me for a ride it was amazing. They finally addressed the theme of the game reality and fiction, truth and lie. It was done well probably could've had a bit more work done into it.
Near the end the big bad called this all 模倣 which I'm not too sure what she means. If they were copying another killing game or what she said was fake. It's really an open ending.
Overall most of it was mediocre but the beginning and ending was really strong. I'm not sure what to make of it. If possible maybe just go through chapters then skip to 5 and 6?
My only problem is you miss out a few of the key points and some relationship building.

Probably give it a 9 for the strong end and 5.5 for the rest.

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>>16481100
I mean skip most of the chapters and go straight for 5 and 6

[Anonymous No.]

>>16480692
How is the first game?

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>>16477807
>>16478816

Why do you want 'darker' remake of a normal VN? Can't you just find another title that's already has dark theme in the first place, instead of corrupting a normal title that other people like?

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>>16481246
Mediocre, common route is fine then the routes go full shitty drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16480720
One non-nukige and a dozen nukige.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>16477245
>>16478816
Just looked this up and for what for what fucking purpose did they make a vanilla sequel to this?
Were they trying to bring in the vanilla crowd?

Although seeing
>>16477137
Makes me like the protagonist as I normally like secretly insane/evil protagonists.

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>>16481390

The game is part of the "knight" games by the publisher. There are like 2(?) other ones. Similar art too, though in theory the artist changed. That's what the game is supposed to be primarily. Everything else is fucking weird.

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>>16481530
So is there anyone who is reading this month's releases? Any thoughts about them? I was about to get Aikagi but >>16480085 changed my mind.
Instead of it now I'm downloading Cube's Seiyuu no Tsukurikata, It was already in my plan to download list and reading the 18-20 non-h cg per a heroine thing (which is rare nowadays) increased my interest.

[Anonymous No.]

So is there anyone who is reading this month's releases? Any thoughts about them? I was about to get Aikagi but >>16480085 changed my mind.
Instead of it now I'm downloading Cube's Seiyuu no Tsukurikata, It was already in my plan to download list and reading the 18-20 non-h cg per a heroine thing (which is rare nowadays) increased my interest.

[Anonymous No.]

Do any of you ever re-read VNs? Did you ever re-read something your read in English, only in Japanese?

I was thinking of going back and playing some oldies but I'm afraid of the nostalgia taking over.

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>>16481674
Did that for phoenix Wright and danganronpa.
They seem like dicks in Japanese.
I was disappointed because he looks like a real cute
No homo

[Anonymous No.]

Pick one.
https://vndb.org/v1547
https://vndb.org/v682
https://vndb.org/v17742

[Anonymous No.]

>>16481789
Fuck I've been meaning to play day segno for a while now tried the trial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16481789
dal segno before the EOP edition comes out and then the fandisc so you can make fun of EOPs when it never gets translated

77 looks the most interesting, adding it to my backlog

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>>16481671

Just started Lamune 2, as I was interested in its system. Basically anything that's not just giving each heroine a route and calls it a day can be considered interesting with VN if you ask me, and this is supposed to have more than one route for each heroine, depending on what you do.

That said.. it makes you go through Lamune 1(?) first. Probably not the whole thing, but uh. Not sure what to think of that. I don't.. particularly care. It's not a plotge. You can skip it, but I guess I'll look into it. Not exactly what I signed up for, but oh well..

[Anonymous No.]

>>16481789
Chocolat has a couple of decent to good routes.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, skimmed (fast) through the Lamune 1 part of Lamune 2, and it seems to be mostly everything of the route of the main-heroine (there's no sex, which means at least something is missing?) and even stuff that looked like the common route. A whole fucking 200kb of text. And, no, that's not all. They want you to do some fucking route of Sorairo as well?

I don't know what they were thinking, but this is just terrible. If you want to include something, include some abridged version and not all of this shit. I mean come on, it's literally slice of life. 90% of it doesn't matter, if not more.
There's no reason for this if you want to give the player an idea of the setting. And if one is actually interested in one of the older titles, it's terrible as well, as it's obviously still not everything. And if you've read it and want a refresher? Also terrible, as it's way too long for that and is only one route. Literally everyone loses, nobody wins with this.


The saving grace is that you can just choose to skip that shit. Won't collect its CG and whatnot, but whatever. Still, this feels like a game that self-destructs with its game-design before it even started.
I'll be skipping the Sorairo part and see where it goes. Let's see if knowing that Lamune 1 has great backgrounds, wonky other art, not so good voice-acting and a garbage main-heroine is enough. Oh and the "main-plot".

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482243
Weird that there's a Lamune 1 part of L2 since they made Lamune 1 free for purchase to hype L2's release and all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16481246
It's decent at best. I wouldn't go as far as >>16481293 since the characters in 1 are still pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482342
>since the characters in 1 are still pretty good.
And they all get buried in the exact same shitty Shouko drama every single route.
The characters shine more in 2 than in their own game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16476779
Flowers had some very beautiful writing in the original Japanese, apart from the yuri bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482459
It was also incredibly boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482459
Not sure why you clarify "in the original Japanese", all versions have beautiful writing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482250

Well, as far as I understand it, it's really about giving you a gist of the setting and things.
The common route of Lamune 2 already featured several similar events. One of Lamune 1's heroines is the mother of the Lamune 2 heroine who "represents" the main-heroine of Lamune 1, aka the neighbor girl. Though I don't think she's THE main-girl here, being not in the center of the cover and whatnot. Anyway, you have a very similar "bathing" scene between that girl and the protag, that also happened between Lamune 1's protag and the neighbor girl. There's also the "crabs" or whatever, the whole "debt" thingy (100 "debts") and the main heroine of Lamune 1 also appeared and gave one of the fishes which were a thing in the original.

Just to give some idea. This is nice and all, though I still think there was no need to include 200kb of text. Especially because, quite frankly, Lamune 1.. isn't too good in my opinion. At least the main-heroine. On the other hand, Lamune 2 is quite fun so far, though I dunno how that'd end if I'd be forced on the (unrelated) sister route. (the "main"-heroine in Lamune 2 I think) But, well, I'm not. So I can go for the dragonquest/streetfighter/retro-gaming girl. She's pretty fun. A "conbini girl", which was also something that existed in the Lamune 1, for what it's worth. No idea how Sorairo plays into this, but eh.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished Kei's route in BSZ.
Everything seems to be so easy now. After 1 route I have 3-4 maxed moves which can obliterate anyone. Last boss of Kei's route was easypeasy. Maxim on very hard 2nd playthrough seemed like a joke too.
Am I done? I just started enjoying the combat...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482670
Fran route, way longer than the other two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482702
Will there be hotdoggers who can keep me at bay or horde of enemy shumicrams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482703
I remember it being harder than the other two, but I changed every weapon I maxed the moment I did, so no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482707
>I changed every weapon I maxed the moment
Well I do that too, but I nearly maxed half of melee weapons.I think I will have them maxed by the end of Sakura route. Maybe some ranged maxed too. What I'm gonna do the other 3 routes I have no idea. Guess it won't be as fun as sky or heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482725
You get more weapons in 0-2 I think, the number is about right for both games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482739
Did you play on very hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16478816
Well, I finished this. It's actually really short with no choices, and obviously very simple plot that could be summed up in a sentence or two. A pretty good quick fap I'd say; the production values are neat, both sprite and CG art looks stellar (vast majority of H-scenes are of disposable new girls each time so there's plenty of variety), plus all the characters including the protagonist and other males are voiced throughout. There's only like one proper battle scene at the end, and it has unique BMG with Engrish vocals. The gore H-scenes were also what I'd call tasteful guro that I can still get off to, they're plenty violent but there's no over the top stuff like outright gouging out insides and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482746
Hard for Sakura/Kei/Shizel, very hard for Fran/Marelle. Until I get weapons properly upgraded and combos set very hard annoys me.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi

[Anonymous No.]

>>16480692
>>16482342
>>16482347
Can you read Masaru without the first game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482764
Guess it will still be interesting for me as I prime very hard.
>combos set
Are there combos in Zero? Lul. I thought it's pretty much - use the biggest armor breaker on 1 enemy, then faceroll your keyboard until the enemy is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482754
This girl makes me interested but I really can't stand any guro. What a shame.

[Anonymous No.]

Was akabeisoft3 the one that used denuvo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482845
They (or at least that one guy) claimed they would but then didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482845
They used Securom 8 (so they contacted Denuvo but they sold them this thing instead) with Buddy on top

[Anonymous No.]

So I started reading dies irae..
Have I been fucked with or does this get good eventually?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483266
abandon now

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483266
It's good from the first second. You are probably a moebuta and lack the intelligence needed to process it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483274
nice bait

[Anonymous No.]

Is omokage a nukige?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483266
Dies irae is obviously higher quality than normal not too long in, but it doesn't really take off and reveal its true power level until, according to your tastes, late Kasumi route or mid Kei route. I know some people have an attitude "if it's not good from the first hour I have no reason to wait until it gets good", but in this case we're talking like a 5-10 hour warmup of a 80~+ hour game that reaches some pretty insane heights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483266
In my opinion the first route was merely decent, it's by Kei's route (the second) when I was shouting "Yes! Yes! This is the best eroge ever!"

[Anonymous No.]

Can somebody tell me how writers for eroge are picked are there auditions? Do the studio just look at different writers and pick.
Do they make it line up with their idea for an eroge or does the writer come up with the idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483362
A lot of eroge writers have 仕事募集中 in their twitter bio next to their email so I figure there's a good chance many are just emailed by companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483318
>I know some people have an attitude "if it's not good from the first hour I have no reason to wait until it gets good",
Even if an eroge doesn't start off with some amazing thrilling scene I feel like you can always tell that it is "special" from the very beginning if it is actually good.
All great titles are like this. C+C has literally nothing at the start but it still gives off a very enthralling aura. Subahibis first scene is legendary even though it too has "nothing". Dies actually has quite a powerful start in comparison. There is so much more to a game than just plot events.
So yeah I don't really get why people so frequently complain about some kamige not living up to their expectations within 30 seconds. Maybe it's ADHD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483392
I think it's pessimism and anticonformism. They don't want to like they game, they want to dislike it, so when they play it they're over critical and unforgiving of even a slightly uninteresting section, beginning or no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16483406

While there are some people who play something to troll in the end, I'd argue that's very few. Ultimately, people want to have fun. It's just that when a title is really popular, people think more about why they don't have fun.

>>16483392

The issue is also that most people have bad experience with "it's going to get better, I PROMISE". As you say, more often than not, people who like the game didn't just magically come to like it after 15 hours. They saw something in the game from the beginning.
Muvluv is a good example. I hated 95% of the cast after Extra. Yes, it's supposed to be not good, but to me the game wasn't just "not good". I still went on, and it was just retarded. Obviously, MLU is also not really that good. And when you finally get to MLA you hear "it's gonna take 20 hours till it gets good, tehe". When MLA then flashbacked to MLE to show the awesome "surprise Sumika on the toilet" scene, that is one of worst fucking scenes of MLE, I just gave up. I could've had that easier. Ever since then I personally don't give a single shit about people saying "it gets better". If I myself don't have a reason to believe it gets better, I drop it. Fuck it. Now I'm a different anon, who never tried Dies Irae, and may actually never try it. Not really my genre.

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>>16483447
Troll? I didn't mean to say they wanted to troll. They want a good game, but are nonetheless pessimistic and hostile. Like everyone who played Sakura no Uta cause it was being praised as a kamige - they played it cause they heard it was good and like good games, but the amount of praise gave them pessimism and a desire to be nonconformist.

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>>16483447
I feel like that has less to do with the quality or "goodness" of the games and more ones own preferences. If you really don't like drama, why the hell are you reading White Album 2 and then complaining it sucks because it has drama? etc. That kind of thing.
Personally I'm someone who can appreciate every genre, my only criteria is that it's "good". So all the kamige I've read have lived up to their hype, some more and some less but in the end I enjoyed them all because they're, well, actually good (the only actual true disappointment was in fact MuvLuv Alternative for me too).
I see way too often people go into things with very weird criteria or expectations rather than being open minded and I find that really weird personally. Anyhow I agree with the fact that if you really feel no 魅力 from a game in the beginning hours then drop it. Going around saying how much it sucks afterwards however is kind of pointless though.

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https://vnrw.wordpress.com/2017/01/28/vn-relief-%EF%BD%9E%E8%A6%AA%E6%84%9B%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B%E3%81%82%E3%81%AA%E3%81%9F%E3%81%B8%EF%BD%9E/

Ouch, this is pretty rough. Did anyone here end up finishing this?

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>>16483530
I stopped immediately because of the green border.

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>>16483530
Pretty much everyone that read it had the same opinion

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>>16483562
moogy isn't everyone anon. Stop parroting other people and actually read games for yourself.

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>>16483567
Stop projecting, I'm not just talking about moogy.

[Anonymous No.]

WA2 is the predecessor of Korean soap opera shows

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I'll be dropping Gears of Dragoon 2. The gameplay was mostly pretty good, but in the end ran into the ground by poor balancing.
There's pretty much two ways a dungeon can be. Either the normal encounters are balanced in a fun way and the boss is impossible, or the normal encounters are easy as fuck and the boss is doable (or maybe easy, depends obviously).

I just ran through a dungeon where I was forced to hit a million switches and fight like 30 easy as fuck encounters that give no experience and are like half my level, just to end up at an impossible boss. While this is the most extreme the balancing ever was, it's a good sign to stop. It's bad enough that even the ninetail wiki warns of this when it comes to difficulty settings. But even if you ignore that they really fucked the whole thing up. Also fun how one free quest can have enemies ranging from level 10 to 25 in them as well. Should be split. Once you can deal with the second part, the first is boring shit.

It's sad, really, as the battle system was actually well thought out. Why do so many rpgs die from shit balance? I'd argue what they achieved with their battle system and skills and whatnot needs way more creativity and skill than balancing things so normal encounters and bosses aren't leagues away from each other in terms of difficulty. I dare say, you could probably fix all the issues in a few hours, including some free quest splitting.
Oh well. The story/characters weren't good either, so it's easy to drop. Still a bit sad about the gameplay. I did have some fun, when the game allowed me to.

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>>16483574
>just
So moogy and his two friends who parrot him then, got it.
>>16483583
>predecessor
>2010
It's definitely similar to them though.

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>>16483562
Bullshit. The true route was a fun and touching ride and I've seen other people say the same. The rest of the routes are boring (though not more boring than your average moege) but it's nothing to get so buttblasted about either, they're short anyway. There's no way in hell it's more boring than Gin'iro Haruka, which is a long fucking snorefest. This game is relatively overrated because of it being marketed to new players, but this and Moogy's are the only reviews this negative I've read about this game, both in English and Japanese.

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>>16483648
agreed, i think it could've given more depth to characters (like they did to hinako with pov scenes) but game is pretty "light" overall. just makes you wish that guy who did true route had more control over it and wasn't so limited, it's so obvious that he toned it down.

[Anonymous No.]

if jaypee were an eroge what would it be?

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>>16483686
kusoge

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>>16483686
suck my dick or die

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>>16483686
Futaba Channel series.

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>>16483648
>but this and Moogy's are the only reviews this negative I've read about this game, both in English and Japanese.
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game_comment.php?game=23563#comment
Scroll to the bottom.
I don't mean this as a hostile attack or anything, just noting that it's kind of an error to say "I haven't seen any other negative reviews in Japanese", when they clearly exist. It basically ends up meaning "I don't read reviews".
And if you read some of the positive reviews they're pretty harsh too. Here's a 71 point review:
>退屈なテキスト・退屈な日常・退屈なシナリオ・退屈な結末ただの画集です

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>>16483686
http://yumemisou.net/futaba/

[Anonymous No.]

Tsukikage where?

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>>16483705
hidden in your mom's closet

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>>16483701
"exist" is different from
>Pretty much everyone
The game sits at a respectable 81 on EGS. It's pretty obvious that a certain loud minority is where you got your "info" from and are now spreading misinformation about a game you haven't even read (and probably will never read because you're one of those gullible people whose actions and opinions are heavily influenced by others).

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>>16483735
>"exist" is different from
>The game sits at a respectable 81 on EGS.
It's like you didn't even read my post. Not sure why you reply to posts you don't read, don't you feel silly?

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>>16483705
Might have that DMM DRM.

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>>16483746
ＨｉＮｏＮａｉ from Girlcelly runs fine.

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>>16483735
Which do you trust: the opinion of many people; a few people; or your own? It really just comes down to this.
If you have a source of reviews you trust in, then why bother arguing with other people about whose sources are better or not. Makes zero sense, just laugh at them when they cry about having played a kusoge and tell them your sources if they lick your feet for it

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>>16483755
Yes, this one is tagged the same, but the game is not present in the DMM game player so it's probably DRM-free. And it wasn't girlcelly's upload.

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>>16483684
Female POVs should be done more often, it adds a lot of depth, but I guess you have to keep the otaku able to self-insert.

>>16483701
>"I haven't seen any other negative reviews in Japanese"
I didn't say that. I took care of saying "this" negative. Even the lowest 長文感想 blames the game for spoiling the end too much throughout the routes, which I agree, but doesn't shit on the entire game. But either way the Japanese situation is hard to assess; there might be troll comments due to 工作 paranoia. Look at the bbspink thread.

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>>16483760
I've no idea what this post is trying to say but you can choose to believe what you want. The problem stems from misinformation. Some guy asked a question and he got an objectively wrong answer from someone who hasn't read the game and created an image of it in his head because some guy he idolizes said a thing about it, then pretends this is the majority opinion. People who don't read eroge and randomly spread things about them are just obnoxious to see.

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>>16483806
Why are you this upset about people not liking re:lief?

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>>16483266
Honestly I think Dies Irae manages to create an intriguing atmosphere even at the start, when it's pretty much just Ren and weird murders happening in town.

If Masada wrote a detective mystery VN, I'd be all over it.

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>>16483806
tldr the entire thread of replies, so I just responded with a boring "learn to trust your own judgement instead of others' only"

>>16483818
doesn't seem like the person's upset on re:lief itself, but more on how it seems that the other anon is parroting others' words

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>>16483800
>工作 paranoia

What's this?

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>>16483837
When people believe company employees are skewing the ratings of a game by posting reviews themselves. It does happen though, so in some cases it's true.

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>>16483852
I feel like Amenitys Life had this. The first few reviews were crazy 90-100 scores and even a couple later. The game is nothing special.

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>>16483861
Yeah, I played it for a while and it was very average. It completely feels like a SMEE game though so I thought SMEE fans were hyping it up.

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>>16483887
shinji was the only writer shared between it and fureraba tho

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>>16483902
Ｎｏｗａ　ｉｓ　ｓｔｒａｉｇｈｔ．

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>>16483837
>>16483852
>>16483861
Yeah I remember that there were a game which got 5-6 90-100 scores at EGS after the a day of its release, then the score dropped very quickly.

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>>16483837
>>16483852
>>16483861
Yeah I remember that there were a game which got 5-6 90-100 scores at EGS after a day of its release, then the score dropped very quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone read Trample on Schatten? What is it like?

[Anonymous No.]

Looking for downloads of 書淫、或いは失われた夢の物語 and 海からくるもの. Can someone point me in the right direction or maybe even upload it to mega if you have it? I'd appreciate it.

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>>16484286
書淫
https://depositfiles.com/files/zl04x1slo/000715_FORCE.rar

海からくるもの I recently got too. If I remember correctly, someone ITT uploaded it or at least linked it. Should be in the archive.

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>>16484296
>67MB
Huh? Is this really how big the game is?

Also the mega link in the archive is dead, already checked.

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>>16484358
Mhm.

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>>16484358
>海からくるもの
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=59382

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>>16482803
Not really. It's a sequel. The entire cast is featured in Masaru (minus one), and it's assumed that you know who they are and the outcome of their plots.

It's totally worth it though.

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>>16484745
I see. I'll probably pass then, especially with reviews like
>ただ続編の2が面白いのでそのためにもプレイする価値アリ。
Not really a fan of pushing through 20 hours of meh content to get to the good stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know where I can get Ashita no Yukinojou?
I got the second one off nyaa, but the torrent for the first game is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

So, a few things about Lamune 2:

This is very much for fans of the dev. It's not just Lamune. There are also several other characters that appear (i.e. from Sumire). There are pretty much 9 "joke" endings you can get which more often than not feature some kind of cameo or are generally just silly.

Other than that I'd say, even if it isn't a bad moege per se, the game design fails.
One of the gimmicks was supposed to be that each heroine has more than one route depending on your choices. Well that's true, kinda, but for the most part this is arbitrary. As in you aren't part of something that changes the heroine. It's just different. So the cheeky gamer girl is suddenly all nice an "grown up" and shit, which probably just makes you wanna puke. While the (way too) nice and gentle little sister becomes somewhat of a bitch who drops the "onii chan" and is generally not.. nice anymore. It's weird, and doesn't work.
Apart of that, this game seems also very main-heroine focused. I'm not a fan of one main-route being three times the length of another one. I still really liked Rie's main route, she's great. Coincidently she also kinda has a third route, but that branches of an imouto route off. That.. was also a weird as fuck idea. You basically have to be pro imouto first and then switch once you enter her "not so nice" route.. what the fuck.


Well, I had some fun with Rie. And, again, her first route is pretty nice in my opinion, if a bit short. Overall though the gamedesign fails, if you ask me.
For some it may be interesting to hear, that Lamune 2 is very light on ero. There's 2 scenes per girl, resulting in 3-4 typical ero cg per girl, which with only 3 heroines isn't much. The whole game features maybe 15 nsfw cg (at least naked breasts), though some "fanservice" ones here or there as well.

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>>16484905
>I'm not a fan of one main-route being three times the length of another one
Which one is this? I hope not the readhead, I'm like 20 minutes into the game and she's meh.
Dunno if I want to commit to this. I freaking love Tsukasa Yuuki's art but I haven't seen any glimpses of the scenario being even somewhat clever or enjoyable. That ヤドカリ王国 shit is pretty cringe.

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>>16484927

The crab thing is only a reference I think.

That said, Rie's first route was like 100kb, while imoutos was 300kb. If I didn't make a mistake there. Still, length isn't everything I suppose. I mostly played it because I was interested in how it does its multi-route thing, and it was disappointing. 180° turns in character for no reason is NOT the way to do it. Still, Rie was a nice surprise. Her first route was a fun close to 2 hours or something. But I also liked her, which was probably rather important.

Oh and another thing about the ero: 4 of the 6 scenes are actually omake scenes, so the whole "main"-scenario only has 3 scenes. (one "duplicated" for the two imouto forms.. same CG though) Quite rare nowadays.

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>>16484905
Im probably going to just do Rie's and Nanami's route. Iroha just doesnt sit well with me at all and hearing she does a complete 180 and becomes a bitch just makes it even harder to commit.

Does Rie still retain most of her jokey, senpai loving side to her? That's really the only thing I liked about her.

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>>16468825
That hair reminds of that roach girl manga.

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>>16484969
>180° turns in character for no reason is NOT the way to do it.

It really defeats the purpose of making choices for certain heroines during the childhood portion of the game because you liked them.

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>>16484286
>>16484879
All are in this thread http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2232622895

[Anonymous No.]

>can't find a nodvd for Ashita no Yukinojo - DVD Special Edition
I really dislike keeping around disc images

[Anonymous No.]

I know this is a long shot byte does anyone have a copy of jp onscrpter post 2015 for windows with 1 byte chars available?

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>>16473964
Do you or anyone happen to have the soundtrack to that game? Some of the tracks are mega nostalgic and I'd like to have them outside the game. I'm not sure if there are tools to extract the BGM for the engine this runs on.

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>>16470910
Does anyone have any experience using a 8" 1920x1080 resolution windows tablet for reading VNs with a text hooker?

I'm thinking about getting either a Chuwi HI8 Pro or a Teclast X98 Air III

The latter is higher res and 9.7" but it seems out of stock and almost 2x more expensive in some places so I'm left with the Chuwi HI8 Pro which is 1920x1080 and 8 inches. 8" is fairly small so I'm not sure how readable things will be.

The texthooker/translation aggregator window won't take up that much space. It'd be similar to pic related.

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>>16483460
>but the amount of praise gave them pessimism and a desire to be nonconformist
That's literally me. Everyone and their mother shouts as subahibi(or sakuuta) is the best shit ever and I don't even want to start it. I just feel antagonism and a desire to pick it apart from the start. Not to mention a premise doesn't click with me. Meanwhile, Baldr series and Muramasa felt good. Probably because there is not much hype about them. And they click with me as a profound VNs with action that captures you from the start. Mb I have an ADHD, i dunno lol.

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>>16486421
Yeah, you definetly have autism.

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>>16468825
>Meanwhile, Baldr series and Muramasa felt good. Probably because there is not much hype about them.

They used to get a lot more a few years ago. Just about more than any other games.

For me dies irae is the one I find hard to start because of getting sick of reading constant, over the top praise for it.

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>>16486421
>>16486618
What's wrong with you people? Why would you deliberately try to be perverse and hate things which others love? You'd enjoy your VNs a lot more if you simply just take them for what they are and enjoy them on their own merits. Missing out on incomparably amazing masterpieces like Subahibi and Dies Irae solely because of your autism is pure stupidity.

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These people above make me glad I'm not a contrarian. Really must suck to deny yourself enjoyment of masterpieces just because you're autistic and hate seeing people express their likes.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't read Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

People love to hate, and similarly people love to love.
Hence why WA2 and soap dramas are a thing.

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>>16485099
>>16485289

Ah, note that there isn't one route per girl. You can have the typical "nice" imouto. That was the ~300kb route I was speaking of.
That was the whole thing I was complaining about. If you want to give a different route based on choices, fine, but the way it was done just doesn't sit right with me. Rie's change for example is caused by having the protag think "things may change in the future.." instead of "things will stay the same for sure!". It should've been way more relevant stuff you go through together with the characters and you have different ways to solve a problem, which leads in the characters taking a somewhat different path in life. A random time-skip change without much of a reason is just stupid. Also I agree with:

>It really defeats the purpose of making choices for certain heroines during the childhood portion of the game because you liked them.

This is why I think a 180° change is too much. The alternate side feels too fake already anyway. But even if you dislike the "normal" side, it's still kinda the same "character".. so liking the other one is probably not happening either.

>Does Rie still retain most of her jokey, senpai loving side to her? That's really the only thing I liked about her.

That's her main-route, and well everything she appears in outside of her second route. (which is just 50kb anyway, doesn't feature any ero either) The characters only change in their "second" arcs. The blonde gets a haircut too, though I haven't read her stuff at all, as I find the voice too annoying. Just like the original Nanami... same voice-actress anyway.

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>>16486661
>incomparably amazing masterpieces like Subahibi and Dies Irae

Fucking lol dude.

For the record I played and enjoyed subahibi, but I don't think it's some otherworldly masterpiece and anyone who doesn't read it is missing out on a transcendent part of life. It's just an eroge, there are others that are just as good, others that are better, and even if someone doesn't play subahibi and dies irae I'm confident they will find plenty of great eroge and plenty of enjoyment.

Arguably, people who praise the same handful of "kamige" over and over are the ones who have a narrow view of eroge.

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>>16486932
Way to miss the point? Your post doesn't even make sense in context and I guess you only responded because you identify as the angry demographic he's targeting.

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>>16483530
>chuunifag let down by re:lief
Doesn't surprise me. He must have been hoping for the magic swords to be drawn during the whole thing.

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>>16486982
>Conjueror
>Chuunifag
lel

Sure, he's an edgelord with a thing for the profound, but he has nearly no heart for the (overly) intense displays of emotion that are the bread and butter of chuuni writing.

Case in point: he hates Dies Irae's battle scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

I like how 星恋＊ティンクル has an exclusive option just for the imouto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16487222
Blood-related?

[Anonymous No.]

Tsukikage out.

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>>16487256
Appears so. It hasn't been stated otherwise yet but you can never be sure about these things from the get-go.

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>>16487066
>he hates Dies Irae's battle scenes.
Wait, what? Don't battle scenes make up like, 75% of the VN or something? Does he just like the SoL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488151
Don't talk about games you haven't read.

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>>16488155
I have read it. The early chapters are mostly SoL and worldbuilding, but the later chapters are composed mostly of those long fight scenes with various members of the 黒円卓. So unless he doesn't count the dialogue between the characters during the battle scenes about their worldviews, there's not a lot left but SoL. Maybe the tragic backstories?

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>>16488151
>>16488191
That guy probably is misunderstanding something, when Conjueror tried his hand at translating Dies irae he specifically did a long battle scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew2d8HaFEak
Would be odd to do that if he didn't like the battles.

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>>16487222
Does this have an enforced playing order? I want to save the imouto for last.

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>>16488191
He claimed they were "too slow paced" for him and that, when it comes to battles, he's "more of a Narahara kind of guy".
>>16488203
His own words on reddit. Specifically, the thread that discussed the leaking of DI's localization project.

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>>16488226
"More of a narahara kind of guy" is a far cry from "he hates the scenes" my man.

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>>16488224
Don't know, I've only read a little bit and stopped there, but I can tell it has a unlockable route from the choices I have been given.

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>>16486421
It feels bad because I really tried to like Subahibi when I started reading it. Since I heard many good things about it and SCA-JI I was excited. I forced myself through the first chapter, but I didn't enjoy it at all. It didn't seem like something at all a competent writer would start off their masterpiece game with. With the standard archetypes, cliches, and random philosophical references thrown in I just felt disgusted and lied to instead. It's not even the case of "it gets better later." It's that the introduction was so terrible I can't imagine the rest making up for it.

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>>16488334
So you only read Down the Rabbithole I?

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>>16488334
>With the standard archetypes, cliches
So you don't like any otaku media in general, not just this single work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488334
銀河鉄道の夜 is more religious than philosophical and it's hardly random, it's something every Japanese person should know from their compulsory education.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488348
Yeah, I read maybe like 30 minutes into Down the Rabbithole II, but you can imagine I really didn't feel like reading a continuation of the first chapter. Maybe I'll try reading it again some day.

>>16488351
No, but I expected well-written and original characters. I mean the fact that you have Tsukasa and Kagami in your magnum opus is kind of silly. I bet there is probably a reason for it, but it's still ridiculous.

>>16488355
I wasn't talking about that, but now that you mentioned it the way it was introduced was quite ham-handed. I meant several other references. I can't remember right now off the top of my head since I haven't read it in like 2 years.

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>>16488370
Are you just acting out a typical clueless "I dropped SubaHibi" person?

Cause you sound 100% like one. Even down to the misunderstanding that RH2 is a continuation of RH1.

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>>16488385
The fuck? No, I'm just stating what I thought from what I read. Not everyone is out to get you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488370
This is a pretty weak troll attempt.

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>>16488404
>>16488385
Guise writing posts like these is just going to make him more antipathetic against popular games and their fans, not to mention /jp/ itself.
I can already feel the "/jp/tards can't comprehend an opinion differing from their own" vibe radiating.

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>>16488400
Seems like the jig is up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488404
>weak
Did you see how many (You)s he got? Seems like it was a pretty successful troll to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488404
>>16488413
>>16488423
It's like you're all part of a brainwashed hivemind. This truly must be due to SCA-JI's dokudenpa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488253
That's the phrase that stood out, but he was overall pretty intense about his negativity regarding Masada's battles.

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>>16486661
Not him but I only have that reaction with shit that the smug gang (moogy and his drones/90% of the western JOP community) shills around. I have no problem with what the 10% remaining, or what Japanese players (who are often much more self-aware and less narcissistic, although you'll find several moogy alikes in blogs) like or recommend. It's like how if the worst TV celebrity you dislike was a vocal Pepsi marketer, drinking Pepsi later would inevitably remind you of that faggot.

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>>16488557
What's smug about enjoying Subahibi and Sakura no Uta? You sound like you got persecution complex stemming from seeing some faggot like Veronin act like a faggot on VNDB. Don't say 90% of people are like that.

And by using words like JOPs you out yourself as /vg/ denizen.

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>>16488578
>What's smug about enjoying Subahibi and Sakura no Uta?
Where did I even imply it's smug to enjoy these games?

>Don't say 90% of people are like that.
I didn't say this either, I said the smug gang were 90% of the western community, but well that's definitely an exaggeration, it's more accurate to say they get 90% of the visibility.

>You sound like you got persecution complex
>And by using words like JOPs you out yourself as /vg/ denizen.
Do you even realize the irony here?

[Anonymous No.]

Kamige = games with kami in them
Eroge = games with ero in them
Kusoge = games with shit in them???

We should start saying like sugoige or something, kamige should just have kami in them

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488630
Did you hit your head or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488630
Blame the Japanese who use the word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488629
you said "smug gang"

you could just ignore the western community then, that works. You could just be coming on the wrong times bruh, there are people from Eastern parts visiting these waters too

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488491
Okay, here's what he actually said.
>Masada's games are also full of insanely long battle scenes that are written in the most cumbersome and long-winded prose ever (a big no-no in action writing, as it by nature is supposed to be fast paced) and if you add the fact they almost always conclude through some random coincidence and not strategy (whatever is convenient for Masada at the time, basically) and you always know who's gonna win anyway, it makes for some reeeeeeally boring passages.
I think there's an element of truth here, certainly some of the battle scenes ended with someone showing up at the last second and ruining everything, it's not a strategy-based action sequence where the more intelligent person wins. But I don't agree with his analysis that action scenes should be fast-paced and hence Masada's long battles are inherently bad. Some of them were boring, and some of them were amazing, there were plenty of fantastic fights where the characters worldviews and justice clashed against each other and it made for really enjoyable prose.

[Anonymous No.]

Well here's the main problem: people read things based on other people's recommendations, and they do or don't get why people recommended it in the first place. Some people pick things up because someone else said it was good, and they didn't try to understand WHY the person said it was good and see if they would also probably like the recommendations for said reasons.

I get it if you dislike someone as a person and you don't care for others' opinions, and think of yourself as a good source of reviews, but just express your views on why something did or didn't work with you. That saves time and stops people shitposting about people and games they haven't tried to fully understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488630
everyge is kusoge

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488578
>Don't say 90% of people are like that.

He's kinda right though, most opinions about kamige from western readers have that smug sense of superiority from some teenager that just learned enough Japanese to read something in a foreign language yet they never really read much "real" books if any at all.

The faggot you mentioned is the exact kind of person I have in mind, he even once said that no western writing really impressed him save from Nabokov, but his eroge on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488707
>Some people pick things up because someone else said it was good, and they didn't try to understand WHY the person said it was good and see if they would also probably like the recommendations for said reasons
holy shit this right here. this is why I'd rather have a big old writeup about a game instead of a quick line or two and a score/10. you need to know what the reviewer's tastes are, why they liked the thing, what they didn't like, and most importantly, you need to know what *you* like and don't like.

this seems like it should be basic common sense but it really isn't, it's crazy how rampant this attitude of 'you told me this was good and it sucked!' is on the bigger and dumber boards like /v/.

as an aside I'd like to thank all the anons who do provide thoughtful and detailed reviews of the stuff they read, it's been really helpful in getting me to want to read things. or even not want to read things I might otherwise have gone into with the wrong expectations.

so cheers.

[Anonymous No.]

*Minna-san, Akemashite Omedetou Gozaimasu~*

PS: Here are short poem which just come to my mind, not really good though ^^

One more year has come
Time sure flies so fast
Here I am wish for you
All of the best luck

We all meet today
No one know tomorrow
Despite fun or sad
Keep your faith in life

Do not think negative
Keep it up your work
And never give up
Failure is mother of success

The sky still blue
The wind still blow
This life is previous
Enjoy while it last !

Help people when you can
Bring and spread more love
And you will see...
How beautiful this world is

Rainbow after rain is pretty
So be good and do good
You got what you pay for
Because Karma is neutral !

girlcelly/Nemu-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488741
>>The faggot you mentioned is the exact kind of person I have in mind, he even once said that no western writing really impressed him save from Nabokov, but his eroge on the other hand...
Why do you fucking care so much?
It's always the same thing here

[Haruka No.]

>>16488754
>Nemu-chan
go away

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488557
>>16488578

麦憎けりゃすば日々まで憎い

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488557
This post reads like some kind of parody

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488966
And why would you hate Moogy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489000
How so? Just stop acting like an asshole all the time and people will start listening to you. It's simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489014
Hating some random person on the internet so much is extremely pathetic no matter how you spin it.
And you are the one calling 90% of JOP drones, the only person who act like an asshole who doesn't listen to anyone else is you

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489009

I don't hate moogy, I haven't been part of this community long enough to really care about him, I was just making a pun on 坊主憎けりゃ to show that guy's post isn't just stupidity, it's a legitimate psychological phenomenon. Also I am too-easily emotionally swayed by others' opinions so I understand the pain of trying out a critically-acclaimed work and feeling disappointed when it doesn't live up to expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489026
I don't "hate" anyone on the Internet, I just tend not to listen to opinions to someone who's unlikeable. It's a natural psychological reaction and I don't see why you're so surprised and upset by it. I just chimed in since I don't understand what's "autistic" about a natural reaction, it's not like I go around claiming I hate moogy or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489049
The fact that you can't understand what is wrong with a statement like "90% of the western JOP community" or ""although you'll find several moogy alikes in blogs" prove your autism.

You are just putting everyone who doesn't meet your standards in the same "moogy drone" bag

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489072
>a statement like "90% of the western JOP community"
I already clarified this here >>16488629

>"although you'll find several moogy alikes in blogs" prove your autism
I don't see how that statement proves autism, you're just attacking aimlessly now.

>You are just putting everyone who doesn't meet your standards in the same "moogy drone" bag
What standards? Everyone? I'm talking specifically about a group of narcissistic people who act in a specific way and sensible people know who I'm talking about, and don't pretend you don't. I'm not going to start shitting the thread with e-celeb names. Everyone is free to spout their opinions in the way they want but don't get buttblasted if some people dislike you and don't want to listen to you. I don't see how this is so strange and it's been this way since forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489143
The only thing I get from this post is that you are jealous some random people get attention on the internet and you don't.
Who the fuck care

Sensible people, good joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489152
Yeah I'm just jealous, I just hate them because I want to be like them, that's all there's to it.

Except there are several well known reviewers who I do like and listen to. I guess I hate them too, according to your psychological analysis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489194
Again who the fuck care
Go cry in your twitter account

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489194
speaking about reviewers, do you guys follow any jp eroge blogs?

[Anonymous No.]

MOOGY is a poopyhead! ><

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489245
http://erogehaijin.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489245
advgamer

[Anonymous No.]

I wish "Moogy" would go into the spamfilter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489272
>advgamer
I read a few of his reviews when someone linked his blog here a while ago and this guy was the whiniest most annoying person ever, I couldn't agree with anything he wrote about the games he reviewed and that I actually read.
But I guess that's his cue so whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489245
たいき and SIGH are cool
http://taikiva.blog.fc2.com/
http://steampunkn.blog.fc2.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489267
>>16489272
>>16489288
Link to their EGS profile or some ranking on their site? Probably the quickest way to discern whether they're worth following for yourself or not.

[Anonymous No.]

All this defensiveness proves that a lot of the people in this thread are drones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489326
And what are you going to do about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489314
http://steampunkn.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-26.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489314

>>16489267 http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/user_infomation.php?user=minority

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489357
>100 Dies irae ～Acta est Fabula～

lol this moogy drone

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489353
>７、朝の来ない夜に抱かれて

Pretty based. I'm kinda expecting this to be the old game found out by some Twitter guy and everyone play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489326
>>16489331

Just point them out on what they're doing: shitposting >>16488707
Unless of course they're here to enjoy doing that, which would mean that they have nothing to offer in discussing VNs

[Anonymous No.]

So what's moogy reading at the moment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489353
These are just games he only "likes" not his favorites. A couple land mines like Parasol but also some good underrated ones like Yunohana.
>>16489357
This guy sure rates 何処へ行くの、あの日 high. Anyone read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489484
It's written by kure so it sucks for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489468
this thread

[Anonymous No.]

Perhaps not the best time to say this, but I'm literally finishing Marie route now and hell, how fucking based can this game even get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489546
To me it feels like the company forces him to write that horror garbage. Maybe that's from a time where he could do what he want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489627
The best thing is its not even the climax - you think it can't possibly get better after each route and the next route manages to surpass it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489484
Dokoiku is easily one of the best eroge I've played, though it's probably not for everyone.

>>16489546
Wrong. Early on in his career Kure wrote a few really good games (Suika, Ashita Deatta Shoujo, Dokoiku). It's a shame he switched to moege.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489701
>Dokoiku is easily one of the best eroge I've played, though it's probably not for everyone.

Carefully spoil some cool stuff from it one by one and I'll consider reading it based on that.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished Down the Rabbit Hole. Man, that ending was pretty nice. The whole latter half was built up and I really loved the atmosphere of it. Really did a good job of building up intrigue, and there were some nice twists too. I was kind of surprised at this, I don't know what it's implications are, but I certainly didn't see it coming.

I guess Yuki is delusional for some reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16490036
Yuki is fine, it's the world which is wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought you guys hate AkabeiSoft. What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16490939
I like its sub-brands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16489705
Basically it's a clusterfuck of different plot elements from different genres except they actually fit together perfectly and make sense (though that might be where opinions differ). The plot's fucking crazy, and it still does a good job with the characters, their lives and drama and romance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16490939
What do you mean? If you're talking about Akatsuki Works, they're independent from Akabei now. Same as Applique I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16474617
Really late reply due to being away for weekend.
You might want to give Artemis Blue a shot, it feels like something you might be looking. It's linear though and it's sex scenes are, well bit yeah. And female MC doesn't automatically mean otomo-game as Artemis Blue definately isn't otome game even tough it has female protag, it also has male lead character and the story is about both of them equally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16491171

I meant with the talk about Ryuukishi and it's prequel earlier on this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

NEW THREAD

>>16491586
>>16491586

[Anonymous No.]

>>16482478
what the fuck is that sentence