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I've just played through Fate/Stay Night... Went through Fate and UBW routes...

the latter, fuck awesome. Fuck... awesome.

Heaven's Fell is next.

Question: Why wasn't the UBW route down in the anime? I mean, I like Fate... but UBW was much much better. although this may just be my opinion.

>> No.1646460

THIS THREAD IS INCREDIBLY AWESOME.

And then faggotry occurred.

>> No.1646463

Oh, hey, another F/SN thread.

>> No.1646467
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1646467

>Heaven's Fell
>Fell

>> No.1646481

This thread is awful, but I vastly preferred UBW to the other two routes. Heaven's Feel has some of the best moments in the game but that shit is just too fucking long for its own good.

>> No.1646490

>I mean, I like Fate... but UBW was much much better.
Too bad Japan LOVES Fate route and voted it the best.

>> No.1646497

>>1646467
Well, I'm sorry I made a simple spelling mistake. it happens.

But I guess /jp/ gets alot of these threads huh. I don't lurk here.

>> No.1646501

Stop posting and just play HF already, it's the best of the three routes in terms of story.

>> No.1646637

>>1646501
I kinda don't want to play HF. I feel like I would be let down if I do so. UBW was good, really good. I'm both scared and thrilled about the last route.

>> No.1646641

>>1646501

FUCKING LIAR

>> No.1646642

>>1646501
>>t's the best of the three routes in terms of story.
LOL, you almost got me there.

>> No.1646646

>>1646637
You're a stupid faggot.

>>1646641
>>1646642
You're easily swayed faggots.

>>1646501
You're correct. I wish to suck your cock.

>> No.1646650

The best route was when I stopped playing this shit and played Tsukihime instead.

>> No.1646652

>>1646501

COOKAN ROUTE WAS COOKAN ROUTE.

WOULD NOT PLAY AGAIN.

>> No.1646655

>>Why wasn't the UBW route down in the anime?

Because the Nips loved Fate most, apparently.

Also, fucking second anime OP is a giant cocktease. No Archer/Shirou fight. I'm starting to rage AGAIN.

>> No.1646664

>>1646646
>>1646501
I really wonder what sort of illiterate faggot you have to be to think HF had the best story.
In term of pure execution it was the weakest in the game easily.
Sakura background sucked, they spoonfeeded every little bits of information even more than usual making the experience even more shallow, the pacing was awful, the transition of Shirou from wannabe hero to simple guy who want to save his girl was good in concept but pretty badly done in the game, the tension was almost nonexistent as well and the conflict mostly uninteresting, and let's not forget the extremely shitty and forced true ending.
Even Fate, in all its simplicity, was a much better executed story.

If I had to guess, some retards prefer HF simply because IT'S THE GRIMDARK ROUTE, IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH ACTION BUT IT'S DEEP MAN.

>> No.1646684

>>1646455
>Why wasn't the UBW route down in the anime?

Because Caster and Kuzuki took too much time. The only good parts of UBW were the last days.

>> No.1646686

>>1646501
You only get one trolling point for the last Fate thread, Jones.

You can't just keep using the same act and expect me to be impressed. Diversify!

>> No.1646692

Isn't the manga following UBW more? May be mistaken though.

>> No.1646702

>>1646692
It's more like a mix of all routes.

>> No.1646703

>>1646490
Actually, no such poll has taken place.
They just love Saber.
Rin follows with Archer.

But the Saber love is crazy.
And the certainly do not want non-childish non-moralfag Shirou.

Of course, that leads them to preferring Fate, but it's funny considering that Saber is much better on the routes out of her own.

>> No.1646710

>>1646686
Are you expecting me to change my opinions for your entertainment?

HF > Fate > UBW

Fate was a simple, well-executed story.
Heaven's Feel was more complex with some truly brilliant scenes and made up for a lackluster heroine by making the other characters shine.
Unlimited Blade Works takes the middle ground between the two, and it just doesn't work (for me).

>> No.1646719

>>1646703
>And the certainly do not want non-childish non-moralfag Shirou.

That Shirou exists on all the routes, and is almost non-existent by the end of all of them.

>>1646703
>it's funny considering that Saber is much better on the routes out of her own

You really believe that? I thought Saber was reduced to almost a joke in UBW. She was great in HF, but I still couldn't like her better than in the Fate route.

>> No.1646740

>>1646719
Arguably, he remains pretty much the same through Fate.
By the end of it, he's just erased any self-doubts that could have come from a slight survivors guilt.

But it's a fact that HF Shirou and his development were not well liked.

>> No.1646751

>>1646710
Well, specialization in your trolling has its good points, too.

At least you can fake it well.

>> No.1646752

>>1646702
So it's like the anime but more balanced instead of "lol FATE + ubw + wtf is heaven's feel"?

>> No.1646759

>>1646740
>Arguably, he remains pretty much the same through Fate.

Do you think so? I think he grew almost as much as he did in UBW. In both routes he saw the fate for a person who follows the path of justice. Obviously, in UBW that was more personal, but his resolution at the end of both routes was quite similar in my opinion.

>> No.1646761

>>1646752
Hmm... quite so.

>> No.1646777

>>1646759
He possibly reached the same conclusion through different processes.

In Fate, he saw the hero ideal, he made it happen, realized that guilt or regret should not be what moves him 'Which is what happened with Saber) but the ideal itself and thus moves on.

In UBW, due to Rin's concern and facing, he is forced to see and face the faults of his ideal, but accepting it and moving on, and pursuing it because it's beautiful, instead of it simply being 'the only thing he can do'.

>> No.1646798

>>1646777
Yes, that's my point.

>> No.1646808
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>>1646455

Tsukihime route is the superiorest.

Pic very related.

>> No.1646821

>>1646777
Well, you know what they say.
It's not the destination that matters, but the journey.
In UBW, he certainly comes out a bit wiser and a better prospect for happiness.

>> No.1646824

>>1646808
Is that from some Mary Sue doujin where Shiki kills everyone or something?

>> No.1646830

>>1646824
No, just Shirou's crappy creations, and a Wished (should not existing) Berserker restrained by Arc.

>> No.1646831

>>1646824
It's so good, it may as well be canon.
T-MOON Complex X by Crazy Clover Club.

>> No.1646832

>>1646821
That's true. Of all the endings, it seems UBW Shirou is probably the one with the brightest future as well.

It helps that his future self told his girl "stay with him or he is gonna fuck up".

>> No.1646837

>>1646808
Shiki does not work that way. I call bullshit.

>> No.1646833

>>1646821
>It's not the destination that matters, but the journey.

Yes, but in this situation, the destination would be "become a hero of justice." If both of them reached similar conclusions, you can say their journeys weren't that much different. Although, I'd agree on UBW Shirou being a bit more wiser. However, that's something I liked from Fate Shirou, since he didn't draw his conclusions based on what he learnt from his future self.

>> No.1646849

>>1646832
>UBW Shirou is probably the one with the brightest future as well

Well, not really, that'd be HF Shirou, since he decided to live a normal life. So, unlike the other 2, he's relatively safe.

>> No.1646855

fate: HERO OF JUSTICE HERO OF JUSTICE HERO OF JUSTICE
ubw: being a hero of justice is harder than I thought, BUT FUCK YEAH, I'LL STILL BECOME ONE
hf: FUCK ALL MY IDEALS AND EVERYTHING I BELIEVED IN, I JUST WANT MY BITCH BACK

>> No.1646856

>>1646837
Suuuure, it's not like he killed the motherfucking Earth and it's output once, or a self-contained Reality Marble.

Anyway, it's a doujin.

If I write a brainwashed Detective Series where Hisui beats up ORT with a ladle, whilst surfing on board Akiha, would you call shenanigans?

>> No.1646863

>>1646837
As long as it doesn't fuck over his brain, he should be able to "kill" marble phantasms. Hell, he killed "nature" or whatever it was when facing arc.

>> No.1646868

>>1646856
>brainwashed Detective Series where Hisui beats up ORT with a ladle, whilst surfing on board Akiha
Fund it so fucking hard.

>> No.1646869

>>1646856
>If I write a brainwashed Detective Series where Hisui beats up ORT with a ladle, whilst surfing on board Akiha, would you call shenanigans?

No, but please do it.

>> No.1646872

Fuck this game altogether, they killed my Lancer three times through ridiculous means.

>> No.1646881

>>1646872
His death in UBW was fine.

>> No.1646884

>>1646849
I think you are safer with a Tsundere than with a Yandere.

>> No.1646889

>>1646872
Well, Gilgamesh is in no way a ridiculous mean. Too bad they never showed that fight in the game. I suppose that's the issue with being the first route.

>> No.1646895

>>1646884
Nah, Sakura is submissive as fuck, now even more so since Angry ManJew is gone. Shirou will start beating her before she ever thinks of laying a finger on him.

>> No.1646907

He should have never lost to assassin though, even though given the situation I understand how it happened and believe it. I'm still aggrivated by the whole thing, but then I hated HF anyways, it kills off servants more then scr-yed kills off characters

>> No.1646915

>>1646889
Lancer gets Enkidu'ed in the basement of the church and then turned into a pincushion. Just like Berserker.

>> No.1646992

>>1646884
depends on the yandere. Some or uncontrollable, others can be controlled.
Yandere are mixed bags.
>>1646872
UBW Lancer went out like a champ in my eyes. Didn't die just like that, took out everyone he could.
>>1646855
HF sounds somewhat nice and somewhat bad. Nice because of the whole "Saving my bitch" part. and bad because he's throwing away his ideals. UBW Shiro accepting that his ideal may be faulty but still doing them anyway was badass.

>> No.1647037

>>1646992
Yeah, Lancer was fucking badass in UBW. He also indirectly saved Shirou, Rin and Saber due to the fire.

>> No.1647039

>>1646664
>they spoonfeeded every little bits of information even more than usual making the experience even more shallow
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>> No.1647065

>>1646664

>If I had to guess, some retards prefer HF simply because IT'S THE GRIMDARK ROUTE, IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH ACTION BUT IT'S DEEP MAN.

This is what Shounen fags really see HF as. "Hurr,it didnt have much fighting so therefore its shit. I wont even try to understand what Shirou's going through despite the fact that he holds this one single Ideal above all else. Which has been stressed like a mother fuck for 2 whole routes."

Did you not like Kohaku (Or Hisui,I honestly forget which)route either because all Shiki did was stay in bed 90% of the time?

>> No.1647067

>>1647065
In Hisui's route, it got kinda dull.

>> No.1647120
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Hey, just want to let you know our team is so fucking overpowered (and manly) that Nasu had to separate us or turn us against each other in all the routes so that the bum Shirou could win.

>> No.1647127

>>1647120
Team Kotomine is awesome in every route.

>> No.1647142

>>1647127
You're a dirty troll when it comes to F/sn, but on this I must agree.

>> No.1647143

>>1647127
They do end up killing each other a lot though.

Also kill yourself command lol.

>> No.1647144

>>1647142
You're the dirty troll, Jones, but I am happy to have another Team Kotomine comrade.

>> No.1647145

>>1647065
I didn't like Kohaku's route simply because all the good stuff about her was at the end of Hisui's route. However, I did like Kohaku's story. On the other hand, HF pales in comparison to that and the Archer vs Shirou scene.

>> No.1647163

>>1647067
>In Hisui's route, it got kinda depressing.

Fixed that for you -- it's easy to confuse the two.

>> No.1647357

>>1646455

I liked Fate better than UBW because I am a Saber drama fag.

Also, I should point out that there was a bit of a hole in the UBW story.... After caster was defeated they seemed to forget that they left someone asleep in Tohsaka's house..... wtf? They should have had some kind of interlude of her waking up and going "uuuh...where the hell am I?"

>> No.1647368

>>1646915
>Lancer gets Enkidu'ed in the basement of the church and then turned into a pincushion. Just like Berserker.

That happened in the anime, we really don't know how things exactly went in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if Lancer put up a better fight.

>>1647065
>Did you not like Kohaku (Or Hisui,I honestly forget which)route either because all Shiki did was stay in bed 90% of the time?

Actually, Hisui's and Kohaku's routes are my favourites in Tsukihime. Even so, I couldn't like HF that much. Additionally, you cannot really compare those 2 routes with HF. Hisui's route is a psychological battle, and Kohaku's route was about Kohaku's plan (i.e. her own actions, not her being controlled by anyone else).

HF was boring because nothing really happened, for most of the time. There were some really good scenes, but overall it wasn't really great, in my opinion.

>> No.1647377

>>1647357
If I remember right, Rin does mention that will she won't wake up for up to a week. That understimating Taiga's recovery but since she is a "normal" human for them...

>> No.1647430

>>1647368
Lancer has divine blood. Gilgamesh has Enkidu. Once you're caught by Enkidu with divine blood, you're a goner.

Let's see it play out any differently than this.

>> No.1647441

Why didn't Gil use Enkidu on Saber in Fate when he was serious then?

>> No.1647465

>>1647368
>Kohaku's route was about Kohaku's plan

This is the reason why Sakura is just a jealous slut bitch.
Everything done by Kohaku is just as planned.
Sakura is just a cry baby waiting for Shirou.

>> No.1647470

>>1647441
Saber isn't divine in the sense that Enkidu affects. She's descended of dragons. There's a difference.

>> No.1647491

>>1647470
So like, with Saber's blood, Caster's Golden Fleece and Rider's summoning ability/knowledge, they could've summoned a real fucking dragon in FSN?

>> No.1647497

>>1647465
KOHAKU'S MASTER PLAN

>> No.1647525

>>1647441
Who said he was being serious? Gil was the most serious in Fate route indeed, but that's only compared to the other 2 routes. If you want to see him being serious, perhaps you should take a look at the bridge battle in Hollow Ataraxia, or his battle against Alexander the Great in Fate/Zero. And, even then, he probably wasn't 100% serious in those battles.

>> No.1647532

>>1647491
FUCK CGI DRAGON

>> No.1647575

>>1647491
That's not how the ritual goes. In order to summon dragons, you've got to JAM IT IN.

>> No.1647590

>>1647575
That's not a problem, Caster can easily give Rider a magical penis.

>> No.1647595

If anything, the opponent that most matches against Gil that I've seen is Zero Berserker.

If Lancelot had a master with unlimited mana...

>> No.1647599

>>1647377

It was, "shouldn't be a problem even if she sleeps for a week," and, "the simplest way to dispel her is to kill Caster," and, "Fujimura-sensei might wake up on her own."

>> No.1647696

heaven feel was great if for nothing else than rider being awesome instead of gettin owned early for once

rider vs true assassin etc

>> No.1647777

>>1647696

Fuck no. I loved Rider in UBW because she had her own personality.

I fucking disliked her in HF beause she was so fucking over-protective of Sakura and had no personality of her own.

And Gil should've been the one to fight Dark Saber not Rider.

What bullshit is this? I did not ask for a cat fight. O had that in UBW and it was done better in UBW.

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